Rooster Teeth Podcast - The Perfect Urinal - #361

Episode Date: February 2, 2016

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This is 354 361 you a seven behind lock one of the animators one of the animators for RTA like ask me for clarification about a story that I was telling and it said, apparently it was a story, not spoil anything. It was a story about a dog. And he goes, can you describe the, can you just write the dog in the dog story told? I'm like, dude, what, what, what, do you need more information

than the dog story? So it's a dog story. I bet I know what it is. I have no idea what this RTA is, but I could probably guess, is that a zoo? Nope. Nope. No, see, that's it.

I mean dog story. What was it? Are you lost, say? No, I don't want to spoil that this is an upcoming RTA. Do you think it's interesting that they apparently type out the credits every week? Yeah. I'm not really, I'm not really.

I think it's interesting. I tweeted to me today that my name's spelled wrong in the RTA. Which funny. It's pretty funny. But surely it's just like, drag and drop at this point. Yeah, like do they? Do they?

It's not a fun, right? I think it was just like... It must be. I think it was just Jordan. Yeah, I think he just scribbled it. So, he wrote it every week? Yeah, did he misspell it when he wrote it out? Yeah, today, this week, it was gain. Gain free.

Gain free. And it must be, though, that must be typing to leave out a V. You don't leave out a letter writing. I think he's doing it just to mess with you. It makes sense. Jordan would do that. I think Jordan's doing it just to mess with you. It makes sense. You can't do that. I think Jordan is that kind of guy who would do that. Jordan out with the Pax's weekend.

You did. With the Pax South. How is Pax South? It was good. It was really good. Yeah, I get to be in a booth with them all the way. What'd you say? We were the only, yeah.

We were the C team. You were the only choice. C. You think you're on the CT? John Reisinger also went down. G. Yeah. Really screaming in the background? John Reissinger also went down. Gee! He was really mad.

Really, he's crazy on the bottom of the bus here. Huh? Would John Reissinger went on the panel? Was he on the panel? Pex, huh? Oh, we told him to crash it. He went into the, like, we were... So he wasn't on the panel.

No. There's literally nobody left in the company and he still couldn't get on that panel. And... Ha! I felt really bad, but I don't know, like... He was in the Q&A. It was funny. He wasn't officially sent on behalf of Bruce Lee.

That's not like it'd be better. He couldn't even get sent down to San Antonio when nobody else was here. Everyone's got sent all the way around the world. Talk to Bethany. Someone showed me a picture of him like, half naked with his knob out. Bring it on.

Well, like there's knob showing. Yeah, it took an underweather, but you could see like his dick out. Oh, really? Pull that up I want to see who sent you that So no, yeah, someone showed it to me. Is it turning? Makes business label to somebody is turning yeah, I was wondering why so I Get your icing your dick pics

Okay, here we go. I how I didn't see a stick Maybe he had peanut butter on his dick So Meg is describing this as his dog Bella is strategically placed to draw attention to his genitals He's oh my god Oh, I can't it's not hanging out. You can't see it. No dude. You can see that dick Put it out. Put it up a little bit. No, we shouldn't well. Here's here's the Instagram We can't see it dude you can see that dick Here's Instagram 292 Instagram has like they'll take down photos with nudity right so it does not violate that Terms a condition we should get the null outline. I'm gonna pull it up pull it out. I'm gonna

I'm gonna I'm gonna to report this Let's show it first report what's his Instagram? Let me show it first report what's the Instagram? I don't like this that much hole. There's this. Well, you can't let it pop. You don't need to know somebody on the inside. I had an intervention. One person reporting is going to take it that I just listen.

I don't want him to give other people the idea to report and then a bunch of your or the John loses a photo. Don't report it. I did not report it. Don't do it. I like to one of the options is I don't like this photo. I don't like it. You know, before we took a lot of stuff on Instagram if I had it.

You were a misspelled name. Something I want to mention, because it really breaks my heart. And that is that I've gotten some tweets from people saying that their name was misspelled or not put in the credits of laser team. And they were a backer. And I've had to go through and say,

like the people whose name is misspelled, it's actually somebody else's name. And not everyone realized or remembers probably that there was a specific tier to get your name in the credits Otherwise, we'd have like 35,000 names in the credits exactly right there were it was already really long It was it was amazing to see all those names scroll by well. We did a lot of studying at least a thousand What's that there's at least a thousand was 2000 was 2000 names in there? There was like a million. I love the dude who paid 300 bucks to put Mark Nuts name in the credit I got shit every screen. I went to yeah people people went crazy for that and

Yeah, but the when we studied Kickstarter campaigns I want to say it was the specifically the Veronica Mars one They were trying to break the record for the most amount of people to back the project. So they just were like, if you give us a buck, you'll count as a backer and then you go in the credit. I mean, they want that. Publicity, you know, a lot of times with these crowdfunding campaigns, one of the big benefits is that there's a lot of reportable press information. And if they have the most back Kickstarter, you know, ever, it's a cool record. Then that's a record that like, you know,

people are interested in the Veronica Mars movie. So I understand why they did it. Oh, I agree. But they also structured their Kickstarter all wrong. Like they started off by instead of shipping DVDs, was the top perk, which makes sense, because that's the movie. The first thing they did was ship a T-shirt,

which is like, then it's shipping and sizing and all that other stuff that's really hard. And some people are just like, I just want the movie. I don't want all that other stuff, you know. Yeah, dealing with shirts and apparel apparel is difficult because you have to sizing Yeah, you have to get all these different sizes like we dealt with that like with when you went down a Pax out I found out that we sent 14 shirts to the booth but at six sizes of shirt that's 84 different

Individual types of shirt that you have yeah, which is fucking crazy You mean you saw we sent 14 designs right, but you have to have eight sizes per design. Six, six, six for most, eight for some. Yeah, and it's crazy. So in the Veronica Mars movie, like what do the actual end credits look like? Cause like, you know, first of all, super fast, I think.

I recall correctly, I saw it like two years ago when I was designing the campaign for laser team, but it's like super fast, it lasts still less forever. So it's just like, you would have to pause to find your name anyway. So it's like, okay, naming the credits, that's going to take a whole lot of time to the theater or whatever however this ends up being shown. So we'll set it at a certain level for people who are really interested in that. But just over time, people forgot about that. And then when it says the Indiegogo backers section of our credits, people who contribute to any level start looking for their name and can't find it,

or they see somebody else's name similar to theirs and think we misspelled it But that's not the case, you know or if it is the case We're gonna make it up to those people if somehow that happened It's with as many names we had it certainly as possible I bet their name on a piece of paper and send that to them. We were pretty careful We got it. I am I mentioned to you earlier that my dad almost got arrested out of screening a blazer team Yeah, wait wait what? Hold on to your dad? Oh, yeah, what happened there? I guess we were talking about this thing.

But yeah, so my dad texted me today, and I ended up calling him because he's like, what the hell happened? They went over the weekend, I think, in some place in Plano. And so basically, they're sitting through the credits and at the end of the movie, the manager comes up and they're like, certainly need you come with us. OK, so they took him to the manager's office

and I think there was a cop there, something. And we've had several reports that you were trying to pirate the movie and you had your phone out and you were partying the movie. And he was like, he was like, no, no, really? He was like, my son was second-year director and he was in the movie. I was just trying to take pictures of his name

in the titles and they're like, I don't think your son was in it. And they're like, no, no, really. And like he like pulled up his phone and like, he had like my name like Blingipson, soldier two or whatever. So and then they're like, they didn't believe him. And then they let him go, but they didn't apologize. They're just like,

I was your dad trying to steal the movie. He was still the movie, he was proud of me. I'm actually the first time I've ever heard of that happening. I'm actually kind of makes me a little relieved that somebody's watching out for that. You know? Well, in big movie theaters, they usually have people watching in every screening for that kind of stuff. Do they?

I guess I did. I've heard about anyone getting busted for that. Like, and how slow of a night is it for the cop where he's like, uh-huh, yeah, I'll be there. And he like shows up. Like nothing. He goes, like, get that mid fifties guys. And right there.

Well, this is in Dallas, right? Do you know that that person, when I've ever, I've been to like advanced screenings for something like press screenings, they will sometimes have, depending on the movie, like if it's like a Spider-Man or Avengers or something like that, they'll have someone down in the front

with an infrared set of binoculars looking at everybody in the audience. We were gonna have that for the Star Wars prank on Blaine, because obviously they would wanna keep a Star Wars advanced screening free of cameras, but no one else knew what I was talking about when I said that. I've seen that. I've also seen once where they tell you to leave your phone in the car,

and then they have a guy with a metal detector want when you walk in yeah make sure that you don't have we have a court in the way that the blame yeah you have to fix security guard he put the phone away from me we had to go to the other to make it all the same

yeah so you didn't have the guy that we base that prank on the guy who got the inside line for blame to go to this that our actor was faking like it was that person. That guy then called me two weeks after this thing and said, Hey, we would like you to come out to the White House for this meeting with influencers. That's who. Same dude. And I was like, no, it wasn't the actor. It was the

actual dude. Because this is I, I, I faked like, I hired the actor and played this guy I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I Because I was like, and I was, I was absolutely convinced that there was someone was pulling a fast one. I mean, they sent me an invitation. They had to go to the White House website to their domain. What house.com, right? No. You have to register and do a background check and everything like that. And it was like, I still was like, this is bullshit. They did somehow. This is, this is revenge. You cornered me and I remember you're really serious and you're like, let's be real for a second. We're not planning on any pranks or anything. And I was like, no. Look, I know I totally fucked you over like two weeks ago,

but let's be straight up. But it's funny because anytime you're talking about it and I was like, oh man, the White House, that's great and you're like, stop it. It felt like house like fun house. And then you just like, that's the White House. White house. Oh man, that would have been, that's a good one.

You got to sit on that revenge prank for a bit though, Blaine. Oh, I've got a couple of ideas. So when they took, no fuck off. So how long when you went to the Star Wars screening and they told you to leave your phone in the car? No, no, they came up in the security guard asked for my phone.

And I think they, in the emails they might have asked to leave in the cars and like that, but they took them and put them all black bag. Yeah, we even played the card of like, the reason why you're being invited is because you're a social media influencer, which was literally what they said to me to go to the White House.

So I think the worst part about the Star Wars prank is that we, and I really was second guessing this the entire time, is that we had them ask blame to make tweets about it. And like, we all have experienced that whenever we get like some kind of deal or like we're hosting something, they always for whatever reason go, oh, we need you to tweet about it five times.

And we have to go through Gavin, you dealt with this with some of that stuff. We have to explain to him, if I tweet about this five times, I guarantee everyone will hate your thing. They will absolutely hate it. Because I don't, we don't tweet five times about anything. Unless it's your thing they will absolutely hate it because I don't we don't tweet five times about anything unless it's laser team and then we do it 20,000 times but uh hey that's still playing in theaters and still playing in theaters go watch the laser team

in theaters gorgeous yeah I try to only tweet once about anything yeah that's enough right once is enough and then they say you will do you have an Instagram account you get you're like yeah I do it's got 40,000 followers. And it's just your fucking knee. That's it. I think it was 60,000. It's probably one of the best posts to follow a ratio on Instagram.

It's really good. It's the best. Well, somebody probably have no posts and still have way more than that. It's like Ryan Reynolds or something. And then it just throws off all the math. Because I made kind of a snarky. But we made Blink tweet about going to

and how excited it was. Because that's something that we knew that they would ask. Right. It's a genuine thing. It's funny. That I felt genuinely bad about that. When he was filming. Then he got everybody else involved. Those terrible stuff. When he was filming those videos, Aaron lives in the same apartment complex as him. And Aaron was in on the prank and I wasn't. I had no idea what was going on. I thought Blaine was legitimately seeing Star Wars next day. And he didn't tell you? No. Because he probably thought I would spoil it, which is true. And so Blaine's doing this thing, and he's like, I gotta get this.

So he like takes his phone and films, and I'm like, why are you so like, why do you have to film Blaine doing his videos? And he's just like, oh, just, you'll see. It's gonna be great. And he was so excited about it. And I was like, what's going on? I was making that video, Adam was on the ground level,

and I was like, doing this whole bit, where it's like, I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop. I'm going level and I was like doing this whole thing I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to start with you. I'm going to So we actually we pranked Aaron Aaron really so it's rather Lynn and I actually and I can't find the pictures

I can't get a whole person that hasn't will post a letter to the link up but We put trump 2016 Stickers all over errands me out of while you guys are in Fiji and a much of other shit too and then we felt so bad that we Did uptaking them off we wasted like why did you take them all because we were thought that they were gonna Damage the car we would danger. I don't think you can damage me out Yeah, I don't think how can damage me on Yeah, I How much does it cost to spray the back of a car with new paint? Probably not very much

But it's a really small car. It's all different places. It's probably like one spray and it's done that car You know what I saw driving to work today. I saw a gas for a dollar 30 a gallon That's the lowest I've seen you have to buy a car wash for that price. Yeah, that is true. You do have to get a car wash as well. Otherwise, it's a buck 50. Is that placed right over there? Which as the price of gas drops, the car wash becomes more and more expensive.

Like it becomes then like half of your fill up. Can you go through a car wash? Yes, my car can go through a car wash. It doesn't really help a lot. No, I have to park my car inside during when it rains. What's really stupid to me is watching, you know, as the price of oil fluctuates, thank God Joel's not here.

Hope we don't have to sum everything. You can say price of oil three times. So show up. I'm already sad it's wise. But as the price of oil, oh, no. As it continues to fall, watching Tesla stock also fall,

is like so short-sided and dumb. But here's a really cool thing about it. Why? Because people say, oh, well, gas is getting cheap now, so people don't need electric cars. But that is speculation on the part of people who are investing in the company that doesn't actually indicate that there's anything off about Tesla's sales.

They just think, oh, gas is a dollar cheaper. Everyone's gonna decide not to buy this expensive car that's electric, which is not the case. But is anyone buying a Tesla? With his downturn, there's actually been no decrease in the adoption of alternative methods of energy. I think people. Which is a great sign.

Who currently buy a Tesla? Don't give a fuck how much gas costs. I usually say I pride myself on not knowing how much gas costs and or what the weather was. Like I just- I just didn't care. And now I care about the weather and I care,

I'm getting older, I care about the price gas. What do you think? I always thought about gas. It's like, I need it regardless. Like, I need to be able to go places and the price is gonna fluctuate and it's gonna impact me a bit, but ultimately, I just need to get where I'm going. Does it, does the test actually save

in the environment in any way? What? What? I know, I know what he's asking. He's, you're just moving. Yes, he does. You're moving it down, like, you're still burning fuel somewhere to charge the thing. Just moving, you're moving it down, like you're still burning fuel somewhere

to charge the thing. I think that there is a lack of efficiency at the construction or fabrication level of the batteries. That's probably the most damaging part of the Tesla itself. But in terms of fuel everyday use, that what's going on, get what's going on? Got something on your face? You have something on your face?

I'm not going to punch you. Is that huh? Gus is gently removing something from Gavin's face. That's nice. That's nice. That's nice. That's nice. That's nice. It's very gentle. Why aren't you touching on it? So the energy that it takes to move a Tesla down the street is that it comes

from a power plant somewhere, which is fucking burning coal or something like that or natural gas and things. But power plants are way more efficient at providing energy than the engine of a car. Then the car's engine is. Okay, like these rolling little generator combustion engines. I still think that until they, it's still that charged by the sun when they parked. They're not.

And that's one of the other, agreed. That's one of the other initiatives that Elon Musk is backing is that solar city company. That's what they do. They install. So we were talking about that side of his career. It's what they do, they install. So what we're talking about inside of his career, it's like they talk about Tesla, they talk about SpaceX, they never talk about solar city.

But even though, and it's really weird, does this seem weird to you that Tesla makes the power wall which are the storage units? Yeah, that's the big problem with solar. What is solar? It's getting boring. It's a big solar panel. Do you put on plants?

Basically, yeah. It's like for getting consumer level solar energy. What if you live in London? It's like big solar panel. You put on plants. Basically. Yeah. It's like for getting consumer levels solar energy. What if you live in London? It's like never sunny there. Well, that's the big problem is that most... I have silly access. Alternative methods of energy creation are like they're dependent on certain situations like sun or wind or something like that.

And they can't store the energy. Whereas like, you know, the power plant is mostly like just you turn on some odds on demand. Basically you're pulling store the energy. Whereas like, you know, the power plants, and mostly just turn out some odds on demand, basically you're pulling from the grid. And it's like, so the big solution they have to have is storage of energy in order for these things to really take off. And I think that's what the Tesla battery tries to solve is it pulls energy, if I recall properly,

it pulls energy when there's lower demand and energy cost less. So like it may charge itself at night. You can set when you want your thing to charge, right? Like I can plug it in at 8 p.m. But it won't start charging until 2 a.m. Why? You can just set it that way because if you live in a place where electricity is cheaper at 2 a.m.

Oh, like off peak. They go. Yeah. Like in Austin, you can, if you have a nest thermostat, you can enroll in a program where Austin Energy will control your thermostat basically. And they give you a rebate and they give you money. If during peak hours they use it less. Would you do it? Would you do it?

Would you do it? No, I don't do it. Is that a thing though? The times that you burn energy is different costs. Yeah, there's peak hours. It is. It is unstated. Temperature is the number one stress factor in a relationship.

Just who controls the thermostat and it's like one degree hotter one degree cooler I that is probably one of the long-term things I do I like colder. I am fascinated by ester's ability to tell small fluctuations in temperature See here we go one degree One degree like we'll be sitting there. She's like it's really hot in here like well No, the air conditioning would kick on at 76. What temperature is it now? 77 How did you feel that? How did you know it was one degree one degree over?

It's impressive isn't it or it's a safety going the other direction if it's cold Like what is it like the same as being like pitch perfect like you play a note on a piano and she could name it but for temperature But she walk into a room that's 73 and be like 73 in a. You know, I see me. What do you keep your temperature at? 76? In the summer, yeah, 76. What do you guys keep your temperatures at?

In the summer in the winter. Summer. Summer I keep it at usually 73 or 74. Damn, Bommlers. You're 76? Yeah. Oh man. I feel like an asshole.

Yeah, 70. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like 71. I'm a fucking tight wad. 72. I want to spend money on my air conditioner. And you're right. This'm a 70. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like 71. I'm a fucking tight wad. I'm not. I want to spend money on my air conditioner. Dude, you're right. This is a level of stress.

Esther is constantly pushing to have it cooler. And I'm like, no, you guys are flits. Sometimes I don't even use the air conditioning in the summer. No, because so many things is like, you bend over and get swayed. Oh, 76 is great. What?

How do you, what? You know how sometimes Sometimes you're on the verge of being too hot But you find if you're just like sitting or walking around but as soon as you like bend over or like lift something once You're like all right, it's too hot. No, this bullshit. We're from the UK city was like that By the way city was fucking humid. I don't remember that city being that humid It is right on the ocean. Did you go a Melbourne. Melbourne's not that's that humid. That's true. You know what? And the one that just goes on the water and it's not humid. Yes, whole. I felt wet going outside. Not here. I love to sleep. What's that? I felt wet when I

walked outside. Hey, hey, hey, not for the usual reasons. Not for the usual. Yeah, like actual physically wet. I can't believe after that podcast when you talked about getting wet at the drop of a hat. Your dad's a podcast post. Oh, it's podcast. You're tapest at the next button podcast. Yeah. Barbara, you're awesome. You have no fear. I love it. What does he say to that? They he doesn't say anything. And that's he just pretends it didn't happen again. And he says it. All he says is great podcast. That's where you're going. How times do you talk about me kicking you

when you were in the bathroom and your knob, touching your and all that stuff? Do you ever, I mean, do you ever worry about your mom, like what she thinks about that or? No? Yeah. Are you talking about Anus' like almost every single podcast? I have. I think Anus' is a funny.

An irrational fear. The entire time we were in Australia for our kick of Australia. Any time I went to the men's room and there was a trough I had an irrational fear that you've been following me all day and preparing to kick me in the back and lock my dick into the trough I genuinely I really felt bad about that. I really felt bad about it I would do that again But I thought it was really funny at the time. Wait when did this happen that you actually did that?

Wait, it was in Australia. Yeah, we were in the bathroom And I went into a stall and Gavin went to the trough. And then I came out of his done before Gavin and he was just there, both hands at work. And he's being, and I just walked him behind him and kicked him in the lower back, like pushed him forward. And he just, he was either going to hit his head, or what's happened is I was let down, like, you know, looking.

And my head was going to hit like the wool. So I let back in my penis. So then you're other head in the wool. So I let back in my penis. So then you're the head. So if you've never had to use a trough barber. So there is, there is an L, there's something I want to describe. Okay. That's baffling to me about the trough.

Can you explain what it looks like first? That's exactly where I'm going to start. Okay. So it's, imagine stepping up to a wall and that wall is metal in front of you. Yeah. And there's metal on the floor as well. Yes. Then over the middle on the floor, there's a grate.

Elevated. By like an inch or two. Above the metal that's on. How do you handle this? With right. Do you stand up on the grate? You tell me. I don't know.

Or do you step away from it? You're paying on your pants. Why would you stand on the grate? I would think you'd stand. You're supposed to stand on the grate. I didn't. You're supposed to stand on the grate. That way, if you have dripping at the end, it goes through the grate. I don't know. What's the point of the great is and you'll fee

There's a trench in front of the grate right like you're not stood in the piss It's like trench and then raised bit to pitch. Why do you stand on the grate? I don't know because because I He's like it sound like he's stood in the in the piss hole. That's what I felt like you stand over it Yeah, it's totally under you there is piss under you I don't I think the reason because if he was just like concrete right there that where you're standing on That's what it felt like. You stand over it. Yeah, it's directly under you. There is piss under you. I don't pay it. I think the reason, because if it was just like concrete right there,

that where you're standing on, that would constantly get the pee splashing back. I'm looking to know. Okay, because I really can't visualize this and why you wouldn't stand. Because like if you're at a urinal, you don't stand in the urinal. You do it with the metal one. Farve, it's metal sheet like this and then metal on the ground like this And then over this part is a little great yeah right here and you stand on that But that's part you pee in you stand on it you don't stand on the bit you pee in okay here it is there

Yeah, yeah, it's a little different. That's a little different. Yeah, that's a American like this is isin it there I would stand standing on the grass. Yeah, what is this? I'm gonna splash grid. Yeah, what is that? Oh Why would you stand on that? No, but you see that doesn't that's not good image. That's exactly it that's exactly it So he's not stood with his with his toes against the wall. You can't see his penis. It's it's not inaccurate Of a gap is there between his toes and the wall there Can we go back to her three inches? Can we go back? What's the fucking context for this picture?

I think we just built that thing. He just is sort of... We got happy that guy. He's like, hey, look at me. So when I was in Australia, I pissed on everything I built. When I was in Australia, I was like... Somebody should Photoshop Bella on his lap. I was like three feet away from that.

And then Somassi started coming and peeing and they stood on the grate. And I was like looking at them And they were looking at me and they're just like arcing across the toilet. Yeah, that's, you're supposed to stand on the great because apparently when got, even though guys have this directional tool by which to pee and we have a fucking wall side journal even in this place people still piss on the floor in front of it. I got, I just talked to Gavin about this because we go to the bathroom before the, uh, uh, we go to the bathroom before the podcast.

You hold hands, too. Why do we hold hands when we blow each other? No. We go to the bathroom, and I'm like, there's a fucking bottle in front of the urinal. It's like, what's wrong with people? It's because of the wall.

It's because you're pissing on a flat surface. No one has invented the perfect urinal. The perfect urinal is a whole cut into the wall. You said urinal. You said it It's okay. You recovered good for you. The perfect one is a whole cut in the wall, right? Oh a glory All it's massive. It's like it's like this and there's a mesh over it and you just piss at the mesh Why does it happen? Because the piss goes through and it doesn't splash back in your face It's the thing or you invent that is a vending it and below the mesh is Because the piss goes through and it doesn't splash back in your face. This is the thing where you invent that. He's inventing it.

And below the mesh is a little lip like this, and it catches any like drip hitch when it goes back. I still love it. And no one, I've never seen one, but that is the perfect design. And tell me why it isn't, bitch. I think people are the better ones. I'm afraid of the mesh.

Splash. Oh, they're same. I think I should. That's very significantly big in your pee down the middle of the tube. Yeah, that's it. You just pull a toilet. You can't hold this.

People pee into like air conditioning units, fly back out of them. A mesh doesn't splash. Yeah, but you get pee on the mesh. Like imagine pee in through your screen door. Can we get Gavin or Marcus to make this exact design? And then Gavin, please. We will install my custom urino at Lucenteath

and I bet everyone will use it. Okay, here's what we do. We'll build it. And we'll use it at RTX. We'll set it up at the convention. And we'll ask people, what was your piss experience like? Gavin, though,

the mesh would make you stand back from it. If you put people any distance away, they just, they go every direction. They're the same. That's the perfect urinal because there's no direction that you can pee that will get out on the floor behind you. Unless I turn around.

The pissing against a hot splashy, sir. It's just gonna get really messy. They call. Oh, hey. Oh, is that what you're saying? That's the perfect, that's the perfect year. Nah, you see, there's still gonna be drip pitch on the floor. Question though, do you stick your dick in it?

My dick wouldn't fit in that. See, that's too close to a toilet that someone might take a shit. So I have a question. When you guys, not you Barbara, I'm leaving you out of this conversation. When you guys use a urinal sexist, do you keep a hand on your dick or do you just let it flop around? What if it's like,

don't you have to keep it? I have to hold it. Otherwise it's like a hose. No, it just goes down. Yeah. No, that'd be like, super pressurized. Why would they go down? What do you mean by that? Why would you go down? I mean, why wouldn't you want it just goes down. Yeah. No, that'd be like super pressurized. Why would they go down? What do you mean by that?

He's like, I mean why wouldn't you want to go down? You're pissing downwards. Yeah, but down like, I would control, I would go down your leg. Well, the boxers will, you know, it'll give you a little bit of, so it's like hanging out a little. It's not gonna go like that.

Yeah, you're not like pulling your boxes around your ankles and you're like, you're like, unzip, you just like unzip and pull it out through a boxer. No God now Okay, okay, I got you. I got you. I was the only person I've ever met who uses his fly What you like to do it best threads his dick through that so he's underwear and through his jeans and then peace and then Mooshes everything back in and tips when I was at the hotel in Australia like when Lucy's everything back in and Sips when I was at the hotel in Australia Thumb it before our room was available when I first landed

I went up to use the urinal and I was standing there pissing holding my dick like a civilized man And this person walks up to the urinal next to me whips his dick out starts peeing and as he's pissing Reaches into his pocket pulls out his phone and starts texting No, just like flopping around pissing No, what the fuck is this? which is in his pocket, pulls out his phone and starts texting. No! Put his dick just like flopping around, pissing. You're like, what the fuck is this animal? No, he's multitasking, props to that. And then he's like, his friend walks in.

And then he's like, talking over his shoulder at his friend, like texting still at the same time. I'm like, what is this? There's been times where he's like, why are you texting me, bruh, I'm right next time. There's been times where I've been on my phone with my dick out, and then people come in and I put my phone away because I don't want them to think I'm doing like a nude or something.

Oh, are you peeing? Yeah. Oh, that'd be a new. I didn't even if your penis was out, unsupported and then you pissed as hard as you could. I don't think it would flip everywhere like a hose. Unless it's a little bit. No, I agree with you might not, but it's like, I just, I just normally just control. Are you ever, have you ever if you have a scale

I when you go for the the post p shake to try and get all the driplets out sure go ahead Do you just do you just take your do just take your grip and just give it a little shake? I give it I give a shake because I'm worried. I'm worried that this is gonna look like I'm you know So I've what he knows what you're doing. You're in a bathroom filled with men. Yeah, you're checking off even still though even still Why do I adjust my grip? penis between the two fingers And then I do this that's the European style and it basically just like shake stand the noble like that And it doesn't let you do

This is how you do it. This is the most official way. Yeah, you gotta see Gavin's hand motion here Looks I don't know what it looks here There's your penis, you take the grip, and then you squeeze like so, like it's a squirt bomb. What? And then it'll come down. Like you're milking a cap, that's like you this, like this. That's what you do after you jizz, too, right? And then you get the, get the,

what are you, what about, or you dab? You got dab. What is that? Sometimes I'll, what do you do? No, you dab, what? I'm ending, I reached over for the toilet paper I grab the toilet paper There's no toilet paper out of urine. Oh, yeah, no, whenever you're using a toilet You know, it'll be great in front of the mesh when you're done

Toilet paper dispenses down. How do you even even better going and you just touch your Pants that You're putting your dick in it like a dice and dick blade. Yeah, fuck you I wouldn't put my dick anywhere near that. That's the same paper. It's like, how old are you guys? 38. 38, next month.

38, so. 38, this month. Holy shit, I'm old. On February 22nd. So, how many times your life have you wiped your penis with toilet paper after your poop? How many times? 38 years.

Yeah, you did. Zero? No, no, no, no. I'm telling you, there's a very specific synonymous situation that you do this in. What's a situation? Free blood. No, there's two. There's telling you there's a very specific synonymous situation that you do this in. What's a situation? Free play. There's two.

There's two. It's post X. There's one where you're wearing white underwear, so you don't want driplets on those. When do you want driplets on your underwear? Go ahead. I guess. Oh, Jesus.

The other one is... You're about to see... No, that's not true. You're about to see... Someone's about to see you with your... Fair enough. You don't want driplets on them. You're in full prep mode,

like this is like, you're staging it. Yes. What are you doing, right? It's like when you, you know, they film the serial commercial that you use glue for the milk. It's, I get it, totally get it. I totally get it.

Yeah. You want to put on the best. But typically, like, it's part of the staging process, making sure you're not pissing immediately before. I mean, I mean, take care of that and I head up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, if you're gonna be going out for a while,

you gotta, you know, take care of your base. Oh, while? What, no, no. If you're going to be going out for a while, you've got to, you know, take care of your base. Oh, why? What? Like, five minutes? Poor Esther. That is a good check though.

When you're in bed with somebody and they go to the bathroom, they come back and it's coming. All right. You're a human too. Yeah. It's like, there was like a moment though where you consider that. Get sails out of the question. They do come back from the bathroom and you're like, you're like, I guess I got a decision to make here here but I'm just going to roll with this.

I'm never like said get the fuck out of bed because you just went to the bathroom or anything like that. You ever lose? But we all consider that when we're in the bathroom. I mean, you don't get a different whole anyways. What's that? You're going in a different whole anyways. You might be. I just tell whoever it is to I'm going to the bathroom to her music if I'm going to be taking a shit. I'm not going to take a shit. I'm not going to take is to... I'm going to the bathroom, turn music. If I'm gonna be taking a shit. Am I talking about taking a shit? Am I talking about taking a shit? I'm just saying backwards like when you're leaving bed to go to the bathroom.

I was trying to tell him the turn music. It's not obvious, though. You put it on, then? I don't care. It's obvious because I'm in there for forever wiping. Why don't you put on that? I want to make sure that they listen to what they want. You can explain, I'm not wiping. I'm just dabbing That's the whole time I dab every day you dab every day you sit on the fucking toilet you said there

No, no, no, no, no, no, you said there are only two situations where you dab so those two situations happen every day Humble break every day. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Like layman's terms is like for a simple tin you simplify I took an average person. No, right. You're just like simplify you but why you simplify? Why am I fused about it? Oh, yeah, I mean I dab every day But I thought you guys would jump on my ass if I said that so then I'll say no there's two situations You dab your ass, okay there we go. Okay, there enough you dab every day That's too comes out to comes out hashtag dad every day so where you pay you're rightinal? Do you then go into a stool and dab?

No, that's where I do the milk. He's making emotions like milking a cow utter, like going from the base to the head. No, it's the toothpaste. It's the toothpaste. Two of the bases like this. Yeah, two of the things you roll from the bottom. Don't do that to your dick.

Don't do that. I'm just a mess. You roll? Yeah, like a roll from the edge of the toe. I just got a message from John Reisinger that said, did you guys at least say something nice about my dick? If you didn't watch it, he would know John Reisinger piece of shit. Look at that, John Reisinger.

He watches my house whenever I go anywhere. So when I went on the amazing race, he watched my house for 30 days straight. And it only flooded once. And then he watched the house for two weeks when I went away to Australia. It's a very nice thing that works out of flood When I came back from the amazing race It had been 30 days. I'd been gone I was trying to win or two and and just just in case anybody thinks that like it's in the revealing information there They keep you gone the entire time when you're on the amazing race whether you win or lose

Whatever happened you're gone for 30 days. whether you win or lose, whatever happened. You're gone for 30 days. You're gone for 30 days. So I have 30 days that came back and I was on the plane coming back. I finally had my phone back and I called John and I said, is everything okay? And he goes, yes. And I said, great. And I had already called and talked to the kids. So I called John and then I had made one other phone call to my brother. I'm on the phone call with my brother. So when my kids, John, everything's great. Call my brother. One minute in my phone call with my brother, John calls me and they're the line.

And I'm like, okay, hey, what's up? And he says, I don't know what happened. He goes, everything was fine. Everything was fine for 30 days. You called me and then a pipe broke into wall. And there's water coming out of your wall. And so I had to get mad over there and everything. We had to get this pipe fix.

Cause this pipe just busts. Yeah, my helmet was like, he doesn't look that far for me. So I just, and plus, it was like, I think it like a Sunday night at like 10 at night. So, we were assigned to get a plumber. So I had to like, and I'm talking through people walling like, on a layover, I'm talking them through, like turning off the water for the house and

which I didn't even know where that was. So anyway, so John watched it, watched as my house when I'm talking them through like turning off the water for the house and which I didn't even know Where that was so anyway, so John watch watch is my house when I'm gone He's only completely tried to destroy it one time, but the thing is Does you have a millennial watch your house and I to me like John writes here's like the ultimate millennial I don't know why I should that way, but uh here. He doesn't like there's some stuff He just doesn't do like he doesn't check the mail So I come back after 30 days and it's like, the mail man has just jammed all the fucking mail there. What did you tell him to do that?

Yes, it was on the list of things to do. And he's just like, Why is it jerk? I just like, I didn't do that. Only old people use mail. Right, exactly. It's like, how much mail can you get in 30 days, you know? That kind of thing.

So I was really funny, like, I know that's definitely a generational thing, we probably just doesn't give a shit about mail. I've got something to say about that. Well, let's do what you have to say about that. Let me read this first. You read this first. When I remind everyone, this episode of the podcast

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forward to Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, hashtag, RTPodGashmall. A lot of people dabbed. A lot of people dabbed? A lot of people. I'm the oldest person, I live in condos. And I'm the oldest person in my condo complex. Shocking.

So dealing with other younger millennial homeowners, I can see like some of the same situations arising, where it's like, I don't, you know, there are a lot of them are first time homeowners and they don't necessarily understand how things work or why things are the way they are. And it's always interesting to me to interface with someone when they're having a problem for the first time

and they've never seen it before. So I can understand why when you have a water leak, instead of having John deal with it, you call Matt, who's owned several houses. I just honestly, I totally trusted John to be able to handle it. I just wanted more people there. But yeah, Matt's had a house before.

John is like, who do I call that instantly comes and solves this problem, right? So when you, he has kids, he has two kids. Yeah, but Matt's had a house before. John is like, who do I call that instantly comes and solves his problem? Right. So when you, you know, he has kids and stuff. Two kids. Yeah, but that's not a house. I think John has owned a house. Well, I think John has owned a house. I'm talking about what I was referencing there, Gavin is an apartment manager. Who's like, when you were in an apartment and something goes wrong,

people are like, oh, yeah, that's the 24 hour maintenance line. Exactly. Right. So when you were on, but John is actually lived in a house, no, no, no, no, no, no. So amazing race is coming out soon. So we can talk about it a lot more. Hopefully once the shows out, let's take a look at that. Yeah, February 12th, February 12th. So for 30 days, while you were doing the amazing race, you know,

while you were off, not here, they took your phone. So effectively, you were, you were just cut off. Right. For 30 days. So it was great. It was great. It was great. It's great. In fact, I don't think I've changed my voice mail back. To let people know that you're back? No, my voice mail was voice. I said, I will not have access to this voice mail. Did you find yourself reverting to any types of old technology?

Or was it like going back in time? No, the first few days were definitely withdrawal from having it. And they actually just put up the pre-show, pre-race interviews they did with us. And one of the things actually I was actually talking about was we had, because it's a theme season of social media stars, which that's a way you can package a show together so people understand what it is, but I don't think the TV audience generally understands that

social media stars doesn't mean we all do the same thing. Like, one guy is a championship frisbee player, you know, one girl is a beauty vlogger. You know, there's two TV hosts basically that are in a Instagram model. One of them is like a viral video too, that flight attendant? Yes, and then one who was a flight attendant, she just happened to make that Southwest Airlines viral video, you know. And that's why they're all part of in this in the same show. But I was convinced that because it is mostly it's based on social media stuff that we ended up ashen I ended up being the oldest team combined.

Like if you added our ages up because most most people were like in their mid 20s, some people brought their parents with them. And then, but you know, so we weren't the oldest people in the whole race, but combined, we were probably the oldest team. And so we were speculating that we're a little bit of an advantage, because we had been lived in a world where maps don't talk to you, you know. So what did it, it rounds?

What does it mean? No, no GPS, nothing. You have nothing. Are we gonna show them? So yes, is it an actual map? You don't have a map. What? You don't have a map. Have you ever seen the show before? Yeah, you gotta rely on people actual map? You don't have a map. You don't have a map.

Have you ever seen the show before? Yeah, you got to rely on people telling you. You can't buy a map? You're like, you know, you can buy a map, but they also, for every segment of the race, which they call a leg, they give you X amount of dollars. I feel like that used to be a bigger deal earlier on. Like, now, I still know that that's the case, but I feel like they don't reinforce that aspect as much as they need.

I think it's actually harder now because they could, the one thing that's not included in that is the case, but I feel like they don't reinforce that aspect as much as they do. I think it's actually harder now because the one thing that's not included in that is the purchase of airline tickets because that's like you're buying, like literally I need a one-way ticket to this place, right now or as soon as I can get, and you're at a ticket, like looted ticket, you're at a airport counter. And so the money they give you is more so to,

when you get there to get around in that place and they give you enough to wear some places, you have a taxi and that's great. Some places you can even self drive your stuff, self. And then some it's like, well, the primary way they travel here is by like, tuck tuck, like these three wheeled little like motorcycles essentially,

and you get in the back of one of those. And they think they're called tuck tuck tuck. Yeah, they are. I know, I'm a big fan of the show. It's speculating. I wouldn't want to indicate that we went anywhere or didn't go. So I would.

So I was super girl. We were on a commercial. You and me. Oh, we were on a commercial for Super Girl. We were doing Super Girl. Oh, that's cool. Like an interview with you too? Oh, that's awesome.

I go to a little commercial and just a last. Just of us? Oh, Ashley saying that we were on a commercial. So we're gonna be running promos for Amazing Race from now until February 12th. And Ashley said there was one just, if you watch Super Girl, if you have we were in a commercial, they were gonna be running promos for Amazing Race from now until February 12th. And Ashley, there was one just, if you watch Supergirl, if you have a DVR at home, there's a commercial with me and Ashley.

I saw it, was it the one where you guys had to guess who would answer who for which questions? Because I saw that today. No, not what you see. She didn't watch it. She's been here. So I was talking, so going back to Maps for a second,

I was talking with someone here at the studio earlier, and they were asking me about maps. Apparently, I'm an old man now. So I'm the one who people ask like these old technology questions to and they were like, so if you were looking for like, X Street, did you just have to like scan a map until you found it? I was like, no, there's a directory on the back of the map. It lists all the streets. It's like, okay, X Street, you're great. A grid. It's like, oh, X Street G5. I was the one who asked the question. I wasn't going to help you. It's like okay, you agree a grid. It's like oh X street G5

But yeah And I guess we were all around before GPS was common, but I never was around you were a kid you relied on your parents to get you around I was never the one driving when I started driving. I had GPS. Yeah key maps. Those were those were very expensive to right You could fight you could buy like big Atlas maps if you're going like on a long road trip That gave you like general directions from state to state and then as you like got to like urban centers Then you have to buy like smaller more detailed maps. Do they still sell those. I think they do where like gas stations I think a gas station that were like if you sign up for AAA. I think you they give you an atlas We also bought a map. I remember when we did that left for dead. Oh, was it left for dead? No.

Oh, it was the last of us. Last of us. Last of us. We had to go to Walmart to find a map. And it was like shitty map. Yeah. So it's weird how quickly that technology turns around and people forget, like just no one knows. No one has to use a map. When's the last time you had to use a map, Gavin? An actual map. Like you pull out a paper map to get somewhere. Couldn't tell you so long. Yeah. You ever use a map, Gavin. An actual map? Like, you'll pull out a paper map to get somewhere. I couldn't tell you.

So long ago. You ever use a map? No. I think the only map I've ever used is like of a mall or a thing. I'm talking about that. And this is your map. I've used a mall map, a couple of when we were in Australia. That doesn't count.

I met the like, an actual city map, or you could drive no. Video games, I use maps a lot, but. Yeah. Yeah, I remember driving to places in Houston, you know, I probably got 20 years ago now. Yeah, about 20 years ago, maybe, like, okay, I've never been to that part of Houston. You know, let me pull.

When I, okay, I came back. When I first moved to Austin. That was your glove box head. Oh, you're maps. Yeah, when I first moved to Austin in 1990, January, 1998, the first thing I did, I moved in to apartment complex, because I went to a gas station across the street and I bought a map of Austin and I pinned it to my wall and I was like

I don't really know Austin so as I go places I'll use this map to help me get around then I'll highlight areas. I've been to so I'll know okay I remember I've been here before god I'm way too lazy to look there's even like the old joke that people have about like Like you go to some place and it's like how do I how do I? And they say, well, go down and take a left at the tree, you know, where Jimmy broke his leg and they go, there's like this old joke about that, like people giving you landmarks that don't mean anything to you.

But even the act of asking directions isn't even a thing anymore. Or like the thing that men never want to stop and ask directions. That's like a classic joke, but it just doesn't exist anymore because nobody stops and asks directions. Brandon's one of those guys that he'll be like, oh, in order to get to this place, you'll go down, you'll take a left

And I just like, I literally just stared him blank. They have stopped listening to him. I was like, I will have this information In my GPS, why are you talking to me right now? I ran into a family once in Tokyo back in 2005. I was going to the Suki-ji fish market And I got off and it's kind of like removed from the center of the city. I got off the train, and there was this obviously not Japanese family. Like standing there looking at this huge map on the wall of the train station, there's nothing in English on the map. It's all in Japanese, and they're just like, it's like an older couple

and like they're young twin children, and they're just staring at this map, and tirely written in Japanese, and I'm like, I need to help them. So I walk up to them and I'm like, are you guys lost? Do you need help going somewhere? It's like, oh, thank you. You know, we're looking to get to Tokyo, Disneyland.

You know, where do we go? I was like, okay, you guys are in the wrong place. You want to get back on that train, go in that direction, get off at this stop, and then go over there. You'll notice it just strangers the new off people in your life. They were like, we were in the middle of nowhere. It was like, this is like a bump-flop train ticket.

You'd really save that family's life. I mean, it's Japan. What the fuck's gonna happen to them? You made them, they would have kept going. I know, I was a whore. At the train station would have heard them to the station. You were a star today.

So when did fuck Japan? But it's, yeah, it's just really weird. And back then, 2005, that was before iPhones. You know, now I think with the iPhones, came out 2007. So with the explosion of smartphones, I feel like we've just become too reliant on them for everything.

It's honestly, I give Erin a lot of shit for it, but I think it's really admirable that he doesn't have text messages. No, it's really weird. I know, it's fucking weird. He has everything else though. I would admire him more if he didn't have what to do. Why not text messages? It's basically just tiny email. All the time. He has everything else. I would admire him more if he didn't have what's in. Yeah.

Why not text messages? I don't know. It's basically just tiny email. All the time. His, I think his answer was with text messages expected that you'll respond immediately, but with email, it's not. It's like email you can respond.

He doesn't like the instance. But he has what's in. I know. And with what's up what you could see when someone receives your message. Right. That's why I said I would respect him a lot more if you didn't use that. Aaron, your piece of shit. Yeah. Here here. It's what we told recently about people vomiting on planes. People vomiting on planes. Did we just have someone who had someone throw up next to them? No, I had another medical emergency on my plane. Which

one? I've been on a lot recently. I don't remember. I don't remember. It was medical emergency but everything turned out to be okay and it reminded me of the time who was on the plane with me when we were sitting in front of the guy who died. Oh. Do we talk about that? All the one that died in my bachelor life? Right.

We talked about that on a recent podcast. It was within the last 50 I would say. Yeah, it was within the last year. Now it's not the one one where somebody done a jack's plane. He got mad about it. That's how you're not going to get mad about me. He was very convinced by the person. Yeah. Yeah. He was unbelievable. But this was somebody who was sitting behind me and I didn't see who was on the plane with me. I don't know, I wasn't there. I don't know. Who was on the plane with you there? I was definitely there. So it was like, I'm sitting in the aisle, see.

Wasn't it like, I'll be back from Vegas or something or I'll be on to Vegas? Yeah, was it? But the person, I don't know, I fly a lot. Gavin just put a post up. Gavin hit gold in the month of January. I've never done that before. Some people like to take a whole year

to get gold status. It's 25,000 miles, which is a lot. It's like two and a half days solid in the month of January. I've never done that before. Some people take a whole year to get gold status. It's 25,000 miles, which is a lot. It's like two and a half days solid in the air. Yeah, and you take it all anyway. He's taking 19 flights in June. Yeah, it was 16, but it was crazy. But that means the executive platinum, because it's four golds basically,

is 10 solid days in the air. Not straight. Listen, if somebody hits executive platinum status, which is 100,000 miles in trips in one year, they deserve whatever. They should get the fly the plane at least once a year. I've listened, that's so many miles. I've never hit, I'm, I had a threshold of total miles

lifetime where I got platinum for life. I have still never gotten close to executive platinum. Really? I've hit in platinum like three or four times. Yeah, this, this 50,000. So it's double that. I have platinum again last you. I think I got like 80 80 5,000 I think I've gotten close got like 78 somewhere in that area Never never hitting that up the hundred thousand. I was on a plane. I'm sorry stick of flying

I have full flights this week, too Kill myself. We're going Yeah, I play someone Anyway, finish my story. Someone here on Twitter. Yes. At Hyman's Smasher. Do the dab. Okay.

Go ahead. Yeah, dab. Go ahead. It was Carrie and Miles. Carrie Miles run the play with me. That's what they're saying. I don't know what I'm going to do with Carrie and Miles. I'm not going anywhere with those two.

I A W T V Awards. Now I don't want to tell the story. And Aaron says I just convinced him to delete what's happened. How am I supposed to message you now? You just convinced him to delete what's happened. Awwww. How am I supposed to message you now? You just emailed. Fucked Barbara because now everybody's gonna have to go through Barbara to communicate with Aaron. Email.

I don't wanna fucking email you. Why don't you do the same thing? Why don't I do what? Get rid of text message. Why don't I get rid of email and then he can't contact me? Why don't you just, yeah, why don't you go back to like smoke signals? How long do you think you could live if you didn't have, you wouldn't lost a day. Email or text messaging or any of that shit.

I could handle it. Snail mail. No way home mail. How would you job? I can't. There's no possible way to do my job. I would have a job. Barbara has a job that didn't exist five years ago.

Five years ago. It's a social media position. We're just, it was like fly is back then So you're gonna go right like promotion. Yeah, right you go and you like staple flyers to to telephone I think what I would do is I would write tweets on post it No, so just stick them in people's foreheads and just have them walk around in the wild You go around the like strangers down the street be like hey, hey, where's T talk? Is about to go live will be the hardest piece of technology for you to live with that? My phone.

You should phone, your phone, and- What aspect of it? Like, smartphone or just your- My smartphone. The fact that it does everything now. I'd say flying. So if you took your- If you went back to just the phone,

like if you went back to a motor oil like flip phone, or a no key- No, no good. That would just kill you. Yeah, but I see I don't consider flying like high tech, because that's been around forever No bloody hasn't it's been around over a hundred years. That's forever. Yeah, that's full But we talk about like a smartphone smartphones realistically have only existed for oh my god nine years

No, no, that's the mega mega bra. Do you know is crazy? It's like do you remember when it was like really fucking cool to have a mobile phone Yeah, you work you like it was a big fucking cool to have a mobile phone. Like, it would work. You had to, it was a big fucking deal. You had to modify your car. You had to like bolt that shit to your phone. No, I'm talking even in our generation when the PCS or digital phones got to be a big deal. Oh, right, yeah. Modern mobile phones like the flip era

or the PCS phones were doing a call call. Did you call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call call I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised.

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and if you touch it, it'll invalidate it. Because it's an expired plan. And he needed that phone to be able to go out in the middle of nowhere and text us and still get reception. And things like. Well, how is it? I think they have subsequently deactivated that network.

I think the network's gone. Yeah, that was on the old analog network. I think it's laid as being massive like this instead of just like this. Like you have to show that it's by your head. You can only get a hold of the phone. I mean, network's gone. Yeah, that was on the old analog network. But it's not as late as being massive like this instead of just like this. Like you have to show that it's by your head. You can hold the phone. I mean, it was like, you can hand it. No, you could one hand it. But it's like the one you always see in the 80s movies with the fucking big antenna. And it looks like a book. A book. There was some that look like purses that like the purse part was a battery. Yeah.

And then you would pull the handset off and head like the coil. Who who's that talking to that? And anytime you you talked like how do you How do you show that you're talking somebody like that was that you that show me this? No, I think it was Bernie who said it. Yeah, I was Bernie Yeah, no you told me this on set the other day. Yeah, so kids will do this Bob or everybody does this but kids will head to do this Kids talk on a phone like this Yeah, they hold their flat palm to their head. What about you Blaine? How long do you think you could last?

How long do I think it could last? Oh, there it is. Yeah, that's the that's one of them That's the purse fun. Yep. I'll give it a good 36 hours before I break down I don't know I don't think I could what you have tender and stuff right I've tender. It's that's a that's something I need I don't think I could last 36 hours GPS. I don't think I could last I could not last one hour I think the skin crawls when I don't have it for like 10 minutes. Like I just reach for just then. I feel like I would be fine as long as I had a replacement shaped thing in my pocket. To play with.

Well, I don't have not like having it to feel. But I could not use it. I don't have a survivor who would unsurviver. He carved himself a blackberry out of a coconut or a piece of wood and we'll just tap on it for like a surrogate. That's not true. That's a hundred percent true. You can look up like survivor wooden black. No, no. Why? No, absolutely. We talked about him a lot on the race. I get it. Yeah, like to see that. Yeah, like right now, and I know sometimes you get like phantom pain or

like phantom like you think that your phone buzz. I swear to God my phone just buzzed and there's no alerts on it. I get that, I get that. I get that. I get that a lot. I get that a lot. You had the story, Bernie, of when you went to go get your phone fixed or some... That's an RTA. And you gave it to the person and then immediately went to get your phone from your pocket. I had like a moment of like 10 seconds of nothing and then my mind goes, all right,

and I start patting and I'm like, oh shit, and I'm standing there with my hands, like whatever. When I got back to the race, I was staying in an era. It was actually great for me because I didn't care about my phone at all, I did not care. And it's like every second I spent on my phone, I was very conscious of the fact that I was on my phone,

and I was like, oh this is great, I'm like a broke my habit of like being on my phone constantly. Within two days, I was back to literally two times in my phone. I don't think it could be broken. It's insane insane how your brain just like needs it that night mode This is coming out on iPhone. Yeah, well you can make the screen yellow instead of blue. Oh, I like that Supposedly like doesn't keep you up at night. You you had extending you a picture of a brick phone You put a tweet out not too long ago where you like you can tell how awake you are by like how many eyes you have open You're looking at your phone. Yeah, cuz when I wake up, I'm like, I have one like,

yeah, you can basically, you can tell Tideo, based on the about a minute that one eye is shut. Do you guys ever go on your laptop when you're about to fall asleep? No. I should keep it away from my bed. I use a screen right into the point of fall asleep. I always position myself when I'm lying in my bed and have my laptop tilted up on myself. I sometimes have to put a pillow under it, so it's tilted at the same angle I am when I'm sleeping. That's so sad.

I fall asleep, that's my life. I live alone, okay. I wonder why? Because air doesn't have text messaging. And you just delete a WhatsApp apparently. That fat cat was there. Oh, there it is. Yeah, that's a brick phone.

I had a fat cat for the first time. So, oh, fuck that guy. So that guy holding the phone, that's every dude who had that phone. It's like old white dudes in the 80s who were super happy. I grew up out in the middle of nowhere. So when cell phones first came out, that's how the phones that we had to have, you had to have a phone like that. That's big.

Or you had to have also the kind that you had to modify your car. It's like you had to bolt a phone into your car, install antenna receivers in your trunk and then install an antenna either on the roof or on the trunk. What was the blue line thing? That was television for limousine. I just spelled that. I'm gonna fucking review. I bet that phone that we just showed is by your I know, you're fucking numb.

I bet that phone is by mass bigger than all of my phones combined that I've ever had So I had some crappy travel recently. Yeah, what happened bad experiences first? We were landing from some flight I don't know which one I went away before he goes on with this the guy my flight didn't die He a doctor on the plane helped him oh and like declared he didn't have a pulse and then five minutes later The guy was like huh, and everybody like, hey, are you okay? He's like, I'm fine. And then we just went on with the flight

for another two hours. He made a bunch of head-dead. Heimind Smasher says it was podcast 255. Thank you. So you know that the full story on podcast 255. Maximum podcast. He took the username I wanted. So you were saying?

So, what podcast are we on now, Patrick? 261. 361. 361. So I took the two years to tell that story. All right, good. I'm just making sure. So I was on a flight and

It was it was pretty smooth not not very bumpy We landed and all of a sudden I hear like a load of spill I was like oh the guy next to me must have spilled is no oh god, and he was just full on vomit like on landing I've never seen that before he was just like Back and it was right next to me. I was like What ah and then I was like, uh, what? And then I was, I was, I felt, if some gum, I was like, I have some gum, you just threw up right next to me.

One time, for, like, I was getting off a plane and, how did you get out of that? I'm not throwing up in that. As, that is a good question. As I was walking through the plane to D plane, I got up to, I was in kind of in the back. As I got to the bulkhead, I could see there was like, something on the bulkhead. Oh, and it was like sliding down in the back. As I got to the bulkhead, I could see there was like something on the bulkhead.

Oh. And it was like sliding down in the flight of tenets and like standing around it with gloves, trying to figure out what to do. Oh. It's like he did not find the bag or he did not make the bag because it was on the bulkhead. So Gavin, why does that make you gag?

His story make you gag. But a person sitting next to you with a little bag filled, like a little pool of vomit in a bag, that doesn't make you gag, but a person sitting next to you with a little bag filled like a little pool of vomit in a bag that doesn't make you ill. How is that? Didn't make me feel great. I'd say that. But I was trying to hold it together and it was like in the moment and I was like, this guy feels terrible.

I got to try and get him some gum. Why isn't there powder in the bags that releases like lemon scent? Because that would add another five cents to the car. Also, he's totally then smell lemon scent at all. It also smells like lemon, and I was smelling that. He would also probably say that. The bags would then, at some point, expire,

and they would have to like, change them out. I was like, that was the first annoying thing. It wasn't annoying, it was just like gross. That's memorable. No, it's okay to be knowing someone barfing next to him. I was in the lounge at LAX, you know what it's like, right? There's the big windows, the angled windows, and as the sun gets lower in the sky

They put blinds down over the windows like automatic electric blizzard. You see this? They're cool. It's like lived in the future. It's like Blade Runner. Yeah, so the first time I was like messing my phone and then They came down Behind me, and I looked at them. I was like, oh cool, yeah. And then the sun actually sets behind the buildings. They bring it back up. And they came up, like while I was still in there. And the woman next to me went, excuse me, can you stop doing that? And I was like, what?

And she thought, because I was like pressing my phone as it happened, she thought I was controlling the blinds. What, what an idiot. What a dumb bitch. It's like, I didn't know she was kidding, because it was so weird. And I was like, what, does she think was kidding, because it was so weird. And I was like, what, does she think any customer can just download

the window shade app and fuck with it? What'd you say to her? I was like, I was like, what do you, you defliance? They just do that. That's what I'm saying. I'm not doing defliance. I'm question for you guys.

And you'll probably know this better than anybody. I was on our flight home from Fiji, like two days ago. Pi Jai. And on takeoff and on. Just on our flight, it was your flight. None of us were there. We'll go ahead. On takeoff and landing, they force everyone

to put their window shades up. Oh yeah, totally normal. That's pretty common. So they can see outside, like on landing or like if anything's wrong or smoke like happening in the distance. If you're more, if you're gonna have an accident, you're more likely to have it on takeoff and landing.

So if you imagine the plane like loses the wheel and crashes, and a scenario where nobody dies, we gotta get off the plane, you could have a scenario where the window shades get pinned and you can't open them, and you need to look out for hazard. For fire. Yeah, and they.

The only flight I've been on in my 26 years, that I've ever had. It used to be a lot more common actually. Like I feel like 15, 20 years ago, that they always would mention that, and that was very occasional. The, you know, I'm gonna open the, that was the last thing. That was the last thing.

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That was the last thing. That was the last thing. That was the last thing. That was the last thing. That was the last thing. Are you willing to help people get out of the emergency exit? You say yes. You have to say verbally yes. If you're seeing the X-Rome, by the way, if you can, you should sit in the X-Rome because you have more legroom. And you could be a pro traveler tip. In fact, I can get out first. Yeah, you get out first. You're more like an international flight. What?

On an international flight, the exit door is usually really big and they stick out into your legroom. They do, and also they put the international flights in a big space, so you have a ton of legroom, but that's also where people come and fucking stand, and they step on your feet. That's also like cold there. They wait for the bathroom right there.

Yeah, true. You can hear grunts and farts, it's gross. But I don't like the person who comes and does the occasional flight attend who way overexplains that. Like, okay, in the event of an emergency, you will be in charge of this row. I need to know that you're capable of opening the door.

It opens like this, you pull that cover off, you pull the handle, you lift it, and you have to be capable of taking 80 pounds in placing in the seat. Can you do that? It's like, this is way too much, yeah, sure, absolutely. Just ask me the normal question. Don't walk me through the,

we're gonna have a fucking drill at this point. It drives me crazy, I'd best see you. Well, there's a person who's never floored before, that's the love. Maybe you don't think you're trustworthy. I've never had this over explanation you're talking about. Oh. It tries me crazy. I bet you. Maybe the person who's never floored before, doesn't know. Maybe you don't think you're trustworthy. I've never had this over-exponation you're talking about. Oh, I've had that. I hate it.

I hate over-exponation. Soon it's gonna be like the baggage sizes things. Whether I make you do that, there's gonna be like a fake emergency door on the jet. Yeah, if you do it. Nailed it. You passed. Get out. Yeah.

So Mitch Hennberg has such a great quote about that where it's like you block a fire exit. It's like, if you're alive and flammable, you are never blocked in emergency exit. You can't stand in the way of an emergency exit. You will get the fuck out of that emergency exit if you have to. I will figure out how to work a door. I promise you.

Or you will make a new door right there. You were not saying, fucking hey, while we're on topic of like shit that's over explained, how do the fuck do I turn off on my browser? When I make it full screen, turn off on my browser when I make it full screen? The first thing it does when I make it full screen is it puts up a dialogue box It says hey, you're in full screen and it puts over a clearly. I want to see Whatever it is that I'm doing and then it says you want to allow this or exit?

I hit allow and goes okay, you've allowed this But if you want to get out of it just hit it It's like I think I wait for that to go away. It's like, I guy, after the 80th time of using full screen on Chrome, I know how that's fucking works. I finally understand it. This used to piss me off too. I know why that happens now.

If there are malicious websites that are hijacking you and making it full screen and taking over, that is so you can hit deny and escape from the truth. Okay, did I? That's not why. How about you give me the option to close a fucking dialogue box without clicking on any buttons in it How about that? Yeah, like I'm sure I'm convinced every time it pops up Is are you sure you want to leave this page? You're missing out on great deals and I go to click okay

I'm positive that transmits all my bank information You know what's the worst thing in the world ever has ever happened is when you're watching a video This is not the worst thing. You're watching a video on your phone. And there's like 20% battery left. Does it need to pause the video? Does it still, after nine versions, need to stop the video? Yeah.

Just miss? Yes. God damn it. Just, just, just flash or something. Like an notification comes in, then leaves. For Christ's sake. It's awful.

No, this world we live in. That is not the worst thing. It's awful. This world we live in. That is a bad word. That's the worst thing in the world. That's the worst thing in the world. No, it's a wild annoying thing. So we just have the thing. When I remind everyone, this episode of the podcast is also brought to you by Pro Flowers.

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or do they have to be a slema? I put it over my hand and then clapped it. It makes a big pop. You know how no one owns antitalk to kill? I do know that. Don't wait, that's not true. There's sections of it. It's like section in like a real like,

like a radial thing the peninsula But if you were born there, I'll just ignore that. Okay, go ahead Go ahead if you're a born there are you a citizen of Antarctica? You're a penguin if you're born You're a recon. I'm pretty sure you're fucking paying. I don't think anybody has ever been born I agree with you penguins. Yeah, but why hasn't anyone done that? Because it's fucking Antarctica and no one wants to have a kid there There's like pretty so exciting to aliens down there at the South Pole that because it's fucking Antarctica and no one wants to have a kid there. This like research stations. Spiting the aliens down there.

At the South Pole. Hey, I think scientists who are about to have a baby take maternity leave. He, why hasn't someone done it for the sake of doing it? Like move. What is the upsets? What do you learn? There are citizens of Antarctica. I would like to change my answer.

I now want to have a kid in Antarctica. I totally want to do it. Same with the International Space Station. Are you a citizen of space? Are you the first space man? You know there was a couple that was in the space, they got to bang in space. Do you think astronauts had banged each other? Fuck yeah. Like just for scientific purposes? I think do do many purposes. They're probably bored of shit up there. Why? As long as they know shit. Well have 10 kids have been born in Antarctica. I'm being told via my earpiece suck my knob Gus So what's where what's that possible? I'm looking it up right now

Can it bring you any travel in this space? I mean depending on the co far along They don't let when they discourage when from no the third trimester from traveling even flying on plane You know what I heard a reason I'm sorry I heard that they own that you have a better chance of being an astronaut if you have a family, like a wife and kids or a husband and kids, because then you have like more of a desire to complete the mission, make it back home. You'll fight your way back? Right. Well you know, this has a stringent, they are about medical stuff going up,

is you gotta be someone who can withstand a lot of G forces to do it among lots of other things. But the the the strongest example I've ever heard of this is Richard Garriott, who is the designer of the ultimate series, and a very famous like rich video game developer. He had enough money. His dad was actually an astronaut and he's the only like father son pair to go into space, but he paid his way into space. You paid like 30 million bucks to the Russian government. You go to space and go to the ISS. And do you ever remember when they asked to, they wanted to swab on my spit to put on a DNA chip

that they were gonna put in the space? And she was like, there's no fucking way I'm putting my DNA in space. I'm just not doing it. Right. That was his thing. He was the one who went up there and put the little microchip up there and left it on the space station.

You have a better chance of coming back. Yeah, I guess so. I'm just convinced that like somebody get my DNA in, I don't know, some technology we don't understand, they can get my DNA in just some way. Or they're being your DNA to some alien in another galaxy and then like clone Bernie is in a zoo. Yeah, it's like there's a certain movie I don't want to spoil, but the certain where that happens.

You really really? Absolutely. I don't think we've contacted aliens, but I think people who don't want to spoil but the certain where that happens. Do you believe in me? Absolutely. I don't think we've contacted aliens but- I think people who don't. Oh, I think aliens exist. We just talk about the fucking 10th planet. I'll talk about it in a second. I want to go back to the Antarctic thing before we get too far from it.

What? Okay, let me finish the rich again. So Richard Garriott, when he was going to go up in the space, they did normal physical on them. Well, I say normal. They scanned them head to toe. When they found out he had a little nodule on his liver that was totally benign But it was not a normal structure on a liver

So he had to have full abdominal liver surgery and Recovery to take that nodule off before they would let him go up in space. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy Elective liver surgery, you know if that guy had waited probably about another 15 years up And he'd be able to go up there for a lot cheaper I think he'd be yeah a lot older I'm doing football. So I just kind of had a dumb to fuck. But I guess Richard Garrett, he went up with his daddy said no his dad was an astronaut. Okay. He's that previously So there have been 11 people born in Antarctica eight of which

We're born at the Argentine base three of which were born at the Argentine base, three of which were born at the Chilean base. I'm going to read you the first one because this does play to what you're saying about what kind of citizen are they. The first was born in January 7th 1978. His name was Emilio. Emilio was born at the Esperanza base near the tip of the Antarctic Peninsula. Oh, gosh, it's mad. He was automatically granted the Argentine citizenship by the government

parents of the Argentine citizens. He was born in the claimed sector Argentine Antarctica. This is the sector of Antarctica claimed by Argentina as part of its national territory. However, this claim is not internationally recognized and overlaps with British and Chilean claims in Antarctica. Since he was also born in British Antarctic territory, he had the right to claim British overseas territory citizenship, however, he never, he, his parents never filed a request. So he could have been a British citizen as well, and but just,

that's the place to go if you want a load of possibilities. Yep. It's like a dispute or not dispute, but it's like an area with multiple territorial claims. I was talking to Steve about, because he is, I was talking to you, I was fucking, I was fucking name drop right in there. He was I were hanging out the other day his my what I'm talking

Steve Oh, is that the week that I went to the White House? Kev or was that one was a? Oh? Did you stop in the this is the stupidest Cleared-up When you fuck the both of you It's very Hell which a one person making fun of him by making fun of yourself. I'm trying to come up I'm trying to one thing.

Did you remember when our friend, Camille Nandion, he was on the ex-files, you were like the same with your son, nice. Ha ha. Anyway, one parent British, one parent Canadian, born in the US. So then if you let marries in Australian, he can legally have full posse.

Wow, that's pretty cool. I want to do something like that with my kid, Jason Bourner or something. Whereas you're British, but if you married your playboy model girlfriend you could be American if you wanted to Smite break out yeah Aw I am she's she's going like this Yeah, I mean that doesn't apply to anyone else on earth. So sorry guess for a mentioning that person

Dropping that bomb Literally talking about? Should we talk about the fine brothers? I mean, yeah, do you want to just want to talk about the fine brothers? I think the topic of the week, isn't it? I think we should, just because it seems like there's a weird conspiracy theory going around right now. About what? That's not talking about it.

Oh no, everybody just wants to hear everybody's opinion on it, but I think everybody's opinion is pretty. I think people are just trying to drag us in. Does anyone have a different opinion on this? I think everyone's on the same page. Oh yeah, we're all in support. The different opinions the fine brothers. Yeah, yeah, I would agree so. But I've listened, I think the fine brothers

then at this point would probably have the same opinion, which is like, yeah, we constructed this message like in the worst possible manner. And then they, I'm going to tell you explain it in the worst possible manner. And then they- I'm absolutely happy to be you. I'm glad to explain it in the worst possible manner as well. What do you mean, their apology video? Their update video.

I have a particular opinion about that, but I wanna, that's like a set, there's like three separate issues here to me that are all kind of lumped together into one big thing. And everybody thinks it's one thing, but I think it's like three different things. Can we explain what it is first for people that don't? I would love to hear anybody's explanation of this thing go ahead

i feel you could i can i give the explanation they should have given no let's do this what's what the controversy is blame tell us what it is i'll talk to you now okay so the fine brothers may announce a video that they're going to be making something called react world react world react world which is, which is basically all of the branches, kids react, old people react. Older, yeah.

Looks like these are trademark, older branches. All those videos are gonna fall under this, like giant branch, but you can also use it as like a, what does it call me, franchise? Yeah, you can license it. You can license it. So like a normal person, if they wanted to do a react video,

they could find the fine brothers to help them out. And apparently they would provide them resources to do it. But they kept on emphasizing on, this is the legal way to do a reaction. This is, that was probably mistake number two. The first mistake I think they made in the announcement video is that they didn't clearly differentiate between a react video, which is a very generic term,

that a lot of people just associate with a reaction video, and what their brand react with the capital react, which if you try to get a trademark for something that generic sounding, scares this shit out of a lot of people, and for good reason, because it can be applied, like, that's very to what.

Variations of it, reacting is a variation of react, react, reaction. It's way too overreaching. How's my description? to what it's of it reacting is a variation of react reaction way too much power it's way too overreaching how's my description I think it's pretty good it's good yeah and I thought it was just way too over I think I think that and obviously I don't know I don't know those guys I've never I've never met them I think that they were trying to come from a good place to help people but it just sounded so disingenuous like the whole like like, oh, this is incorporate. Here's the legal way and the legal avenue to do this.

Like, obviously constructed by lawyers. I was saying legal. What's the legal way to pursue this? Here's why I think that took place. Is that I think that they have a format that they started doing of videos that were just everybody on the web was doing them or everybody on YouTube was doing.

In fact, YouTube, when it first started, they had built into the system reaction videos. You could post a reaction video to somebody's video and it would appear right below it. And then people started to abuse that by just having their boobs out in the thumbnail. And it was reaction was, I like the video. And that was it. But it was a whole thing, one point. It was a whole thing. It was trying to crack down on like react girls and stuff.

Exactly. Because they would just make thousands of videos that were like 15 seconds long. And the future wouldn't have that many videos would actually generate a lot of income. Because there's so many, just volume. Texting spam. It's a spam. I'm not just on my phone. I'm not looking.

I'm okay. Yeah, you're researching. I never get mad at someone for being on the phone. And reaction videos are like, they're almost as generic as vlogging. But there's so many different variations of it. Like, I would argue that something like what Ray William Johnson does equals three, that's a reaction video too. He's just giving like a more professional, like just him reacting to it. Like riffing off of the video, or Tosh.

.0 does it on TV. Those are like extreme examples of it. But then the fine brothers made this format of like specific groups of people reacting to videos and then they would ask those people questions and everything. Like if you see kids react, you would know what if you saw it kind of a thing. And I think that when they first started explaining this, they should have been,

what they were trying to say was that they were talking about their version of a reaction. Like they were talking about react their series. But it's too generic of a term. It's like where the pitfall was, they named their series and their, their quote unquote format, they named it something too generic, almost too trademark in the future.

And that's like a mistake. I mean, you can make early on. And we ran into problems like this early on because we were making videos that we were just making videos based in video games, which is this whole IP trademark you were gonna into the second. But then to people totally where called machinima,

then a company came along and trademarked the word machinima. And so for fucking eight years, Gus, how long was it that we would have to answer the question about we make machinima videos, but we don't fucking work for this company machinima. Right. We have nothing to do with that. That's machinima with a capital M.

This is machinima with a lowercase. And nobody gave a shit about that. Like, we would have articles printed about us and they said go to their website machinimo.com We'd be like, fuck you! You gotta be fucking, and we have the same conversation over and over again, which was, it's like, you guys make machinimo videos.

It's like, yeah, it's like, well, what's it like to work for machinimo? It's like, we don't work for machinimo. It's like, you make, you make videos for machinimo. It's like, I can't explain this anymore. It's like eight years to that. I just can't explain this. And to the point where we had a running joke

where we refused to call our stuff machine-a-ma and Gus, you remember we called it? Rendervision? Rendervision. That's what we called the technology. But anyway. Does it make sense for an end of vision? Because it's already,

it's like live rendition. But machine-a-ma totally makes sense. That's a fucking, that's a very descriptive term, right, Gava? So, but they're, their response to this, they looked pissed. And like though the wording, it seems, like the wording, the wording, the wording was genuine, but their tone was as if they're like mad. What was like, which one is this,

the update video was just like, where it is, the update period. He's like, no, you don't understand this. Yeah. It's an important, yeah.'s like, no, no. You don't understand this. Yeah. It's an important. Yeah. Well, I have another opinion about that too, and I agree with that, but let's go to the first thing.

Let's stick with the topic here. And because I want to hear Gus's, I want to come up with an example. I asked Gus to think about this before we got on the podcast. The second mistake I think they made was they were pitching this new thing that they were doing to take their react brand and the react shows and they were going to bring them out all over the world.

And basically, let's call it one of this. They were trying to do a UGC play with their business. Exactly. They were trying to make something where the users generate content. You see this in all forms of media, including video games, where they build in a system where the users can create content and that that bolsters the brand, and sometimes, in the case of like valve and other places, they actually will charge and make money off of that. The fine brothers were, according what I remember from their video, they were going to charge

those people a licensing fee to license the brand that comes with assets. It's just like a franchising deal, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, main promotion. Yeah. And they're up to a video they describe it that way. It is a bigger king, exactly. And they monetize it and they would be able to split the money.

That is a hard enough announcement on its own, because you gotta get people to buy into the fact that it's worth money and that you're making money now from your, I mean, you always make money from an audience because you basically, what's the old saying, if you're not paying for the product, you are the product, like you sell advertising against people's views and stuff like that. But you're trying to convince people that you're not paying for the product, you are the product. Like, you sell advertising against people's views

and stuff like that. But you're trying to convince people that you're gonna make content, which is gonna produce money for us, but it's gonna be a bigger benefit for you. That's a hard enough sell. Then all of a sudden, they shifted into this discussion where they started talking about legal terms,

like trademark, and now you can do it legally, and you can license our stuff legally. And it's like, I understand why the fine brothers would see that as a problem because they have a hugely popular brand that is often mimicked. And that's a huge problem for them, but nobody else recognizes that problem.

They're trying to solve a problem for people that they don't have. Everyone acknowledges that they did not invent this format. And I think they would acknowledge that. Right, but it's like, so that it doesn't make sense to me that they would throw this out from a legal perspective and say, so that it doesn't make sense to me that they would try, that they would throw this out from a legal perspective and say, we're in a trade market and let you license it.

Like, well, you didn't come up with it. How are you the one to trade market? I, we had a funny discussion before the podcast, we were talking about like, we were comparing it to going on a first date and being like, talking to the girl and be like, listen, my herpes are gone, you know, I'm not going to marry you on the first date, you know, like that, that kind of thing because they're there there's there they're putting out the solution to a problem that no one else Yeah, she didn't raise no one's raising these questions, right? So how far down will the sub count go? It's we're going down pretty pretty fast. I think I've ever seen that just in the podcast

Across multiple I don't have a scene that just in the podcast across multiple channels 20,000 since seven o'clock. I'm being told in my year. Seven o'clock. So that's been from now about it almost two hours. But that's that's a clear like demonstration that people are angry about this and those subcounsel going down and people are unsubscribing. I'm curious now at this point if it's going down this fast on Monday night is when we're recording this, who's just now finding out about this that also happened to be subscribed

to the fine brothers channel is now mad enough But didn't find out about it over the weekend like who are these people that are continuing to unsubscribe I think people are also just doing it to go a lot. It's probably it's the elders. They're reacting Do you know what you know what nobody is doing, which I would find really funny I would like to see someone map the views against the fine brothers videos since this whole thing started because honestly at the end of the day subs is a metric that people quote a lot it doesn't have really any value it just translates to the actual

thing that has value which is views and I guarantee the fine views have gone way up because there are a lot of people there are a lot of people who are watching fine brothers videos right now that didn't care. Those videos have like 95% dislikes, but there's so many views. Million views in like 48 hours. Update video. Sorry, update video.

Some of them not a positive update period video. You don't understand video. We wouldn't kill for a video that got three half million views in 48 hours. It'd be controversial. Apparently so. You guys know Andrew Blanchard. Yeah.

He was not subscribed to the fine brothers, but he subscribed and unsubscribed just so he could see his counter off of me. What? That's so stupid. He just wanted to be part of it. Oh, almost 4 million. That is the most dislikes I've ever seen in my life.

So as with everything, 3.8 million views. As with everything, the Mega 64 guys, they had the best response to that. You know what they really did? And like, I think everybody's response since then has been like very visceral and like they've taken like little bits, the one thing that happens is when this thing takes place

is the internet mob plays like this really horrific version of this is your life. Like they're digging up videos that the fine brothers made, I mean, probably like 10 or 15 years ago. With like one of them, you know, jerking off at a computer and like every time, there was one thing they did, which I really don't like, which is they, at one point, called out the internet mob to go after the Ellen DeGeneres show

for having kids react to a phone on the show and they like there's a post. If you believe the post, it's a deleted post and someone is saying that this was like they archived it and they found it but it was a post on the Facebook page I guess of the fine brothers entertainment where they were asking them to go after the Ellen DeGeneres show and like bomb their comment section saying that they had ripped off kids react from them and it's like if you do that, if you like try to use the internet as your Personal army that is gonna come back to fucking haunt you at some point because that's exactly I think what's going on right now. It's like it's it's just circling back around

I really do it's a little bit. It's a little bit in that regard. It's a little bit of karma You know, but it is the same sense that too, I hate playing Devils Advocate, but it's also really frustrating when, if you're sitting there, you have a very popular format online, all of a sudden Ellen DeGeneres Show does something that seems a lot like your thing and does it out of the clear blue sky.

Like I've never heard of Ellen DeGeneres sitting down with kids. How have you guys had that with immersion, didn't you? A couple of times. With what? Like other shows pretty much copying the format exactly. Well, here's the thing too, that I think that you know for us And I build the last thing I want to do because this is such an emotional issue I'm very reluctant to talk about stuff that we do because then I don't want people like

Lumping like the stuff that we do in with with this you know this issue that's going on right now But I think we've always been very good about acknowledging when we have Shows that are derivative and I consider When we have shows that are derivative and I consider Immersion to be one of our more inspired by shows like We've always said it's one part myth busters one part jackass That's the way we describe it. It's inspired by you know these signs shows that are on there where they test things you know It's not I don't think we came over that format on our own. We just specifically applied it to testing of video games Likewise with machinima when we started doing this

I Tried to go out and find something that was like what I had in mind of using a video game to make a movie. I couldn't find anything. I couldn't find any videos that were like this. The closest thing I could find to what Reversible was going to be was Randall Glass is the Warthog Jump.

That was huge inspiration for us early on. Yeah, it was like a trick, but that was a trick's video, essentially, but it was a really well edited, trick's video that seemed to almost tell a story of a guy trying to flip this war hog on the silent cartographer map in Halus. I was blown away by that shot with the rocket. Still to this day, like the war hogs in the air,

he like predicts, I'll shoot the rocket there and he fires it in like two seconds later, it hits directly on the war hog. And the same, we shot the coolest things we've ever seen. We shot the trailer for Red versus Blue at RTX Australia. And that was actually, I had to kind of like demonstrate to us and Jeff what I was talking about by putting dialogue in.

So the whole purpose of the trailer was to have that little shot at the end where Griffin Simmons talked about wasting two minutes of the life watching the trailer. And so anyway, when we did that, all of a sudden then we were, we were contacting, we were told that what we were doing is like, some people have done with doom and quake, and it was called machinima.

But then as Red versus Blue became, all of a sudden, very, very popular, very quickly in season one, it just exploded. And then what happened was all of a sudden, a year and a half into Halo's life cycle, all of a sudden, everybody was, we're making videos, shooting them and their friends, doing dialogue in Halo.

And they was called Machinima. Oh, I'm making a Halo machine. It's like, nobody made these videos before we did it. Nobody did. And 90% of the time it was X versus Y. Yeah, the whatever. Or, and then we would hear how their series was better than ours, but it was totally different

because it was on Sidewinder. But we never did anything about that. I never would have thought, like, I never, at any point in time would have thought that we have the right to take that down or to, I was actually encouraged by somebody, believe it or not, to apply for a patent because this was a technique of animation and somebody told me that this could be patentable

to use 3D engines to make real-time animation and that I should patent our process. A patent is way more overreaching than a trademark or a copyright. That's like you just sit back for a couple of years and then shoot a shit out of a bunch of people. But we never did anything like that. We never, we never, I never had this idea

that we could, that we should trademark this and prevent other people from doing it. To us it was like we're participating in this remix culture and that this is part of like what goes along with that is that, know and we've always said to this day That we all make red versus blue as long as people want to watch it and and be Microsoft wants us to make it because the fact that we based it on Halo doesn't change as we become more successful that does the those origins don't suddenly You know metamorphicize themselves, you know to something else

It's like the origin is still the same at the thing. So, that piss you off back in the day with like Codex and Salmon versus Teal and Father Team Charlie. Fire Team Charlie and all that stuff. I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, from, I would've never said so at the time, but yeah, looking back, I can tell you,

I honestly was like, why don't you guys go do your own thing? I mean, the thing I used to always wonder is like, why were they using Halo? It was like one of the hardest engines to do machinima in. There was the Half-Life 2 engine was on the market. That was way better for making machinima. I think they had the lip sync tools. Yeah, and everything.

And the hammer tool and everything. Was a big factor was that right around that time that you started doing it, capturing from an Xbox became a lot easier. And it was very like, just to ask you, how did you guys capture like season one of Reversible? I had a SD capture card. They had capture cards. a lot easier. And it was very like, just curious, how did you guys capture like season one of the Reversible?

I had an SD capture card. The capture cards. But like right around the time like within two years the price of those things were like affordable to fans. It was still pretty pricey. I think the capture card use a time was that cannabis wrecks. Cannabis DV wrecks it was a $1,500 capture card. I it was a court and standard death.

ISA interface I think on the motherboard. Oh, yeah, I believe it was I say in the motherboard. Well, I had a random glass made Wilhuck jump with a VHS VCR recorder. Yeah, I was gonna say when I was little I was inspired by you guys I made a max pain video and I remember I hooked in I don't know how I did it long story short my playstation was plugged into a Canon story short, my PlayStation was plugged into a Canon camera and I was playing the game on the mini display. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, that's what I captured my stuff.

But you were recording and that was if you find her, that was your source. Yeah. I'll also say too, probably from a business standpoint, that was probably a bad decision. Like, you know, because then another company came along, a group of investors, they bought machinima.com from Hugh Hancock, the guy who made up the term machinema. They bought the website from him and then created the company machinema, you know, that we all know now, registered trademark, and for years, for years, there was brand confusion. And I think some of it, you know, was not exactly accidental. I mean, we've go to their website and on the front page, it had a Red versus Blue icon, it's a number one series on it.

And it was like, why do you have our fucking web series on your website with number one series? It's like, well, you're the number one in the Mission of a Series. Little M. And that's what those were people, I've seen a couple of comments on Twitter about that saying that back in the day,

that's how they watched the first couple seasons of Red versus Blue. Yeah, Mission of a, as a, this might be the fact we had the intro slate and the outro slate with our domain. Some people would edit that out. That's what that's totally for me. As a medium though, Machinima was very artsy back then. And it's terrible.

Like early Machinima sucks. Like Red vs Blue was the first funny Machinima. And I think actually was the only funny Machinima that ever existed. We went to a lot of festivals with many of these other artists. A couple. And these other artisans. I still love that song though. We had nicknames for all of the Pixar. That was robot Pixar. In the waiting line. In the waiting line. And the quake one was just text. It was a music video. Was it a rbbto? The story was in text.

There was no dial. Maybe. guys had to judge them. Maybe. I mean, I don't remember, I mean, we did a lot of machine-a-must-of-over-the-years, little images. I remember that one prick that would do news updates, I think it was like the dead pixel or something. Fuck that guy. Fuck that guy. I think that was actually one of the first machine-a-mapises ever.

And I'm just thinking about it. It was like a safe file. It was like an instructor-the-game to plan a story. Right, there was a wad file. That was a diary of a camper, which I think is actually credited as being the first machine-a-mapise ever created. Who made that one? I was just like a group, that was a diary of a camper, which I think is actually credited as being the first machinim of a piece ever created. Who made that one? It was just like a group of guys in a Quake clan, and they wanted to tell a story, and that's how you distributed it back then.

It was like a Wad file that the game engine would interpret the data, and then played it back in the game. So there was no like video viewer to watch it. It would be like, you had to own Quake and then load the Wad file in a Quake and then play it back. It was the equivalent of like a safe film from Hayla. Exactly. Yeah, Hayla took away. You had to have it to watch it. You couldn't watch it.

But back then you couldn't watch video in a web browser. So it didn't matter anyway. Hey, you're gonna see if you're a fun one. The portal, the little turret. Oh, the Dino Life Attourage, one of my favorite ones ever. Yeah, Hey, you're a super fun one. This is Diurvy Camper, this is it. So I think there's no dialogue, but.

Yeah, it's all told you a chat, yeah. So that's the first ever machine. I'm a little in. Yeah. Sorry. People are doing all sorts of stuff. This Spartan life was another one, which I loved that. I love the guy who made it.

At the same time, I was like, you know, be great. A different, just a different game. But when you use somebody else's world to shoot your show, that comes along with it. I mean, that's that's also part of the benefit. I assume of why they liked the fact they were doing because it became a whole new way to play with Halo. We could let them make skits and hang on with your friends and make creative projects. So it's like that comes with the territory, you know? And it's a so anyway, so go ahead. Now you're going to read something. I'm going to read something and I'm going to pass this out. We got babies here.

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Over here. I'm serious, Barry. It's my head hurts now. I legitimately chose the most oxygen. Are we talking about this too much? Do you want to keep talking about this? I don't even want to. I feel like we've already moved off to a topic.

Well, in that sense of knowing that we dealt with that, I can see how somebody who has a successful format, they see other people starting to mimic it, and they feel like we're in jeopardy of losing this thing because that was the other thing about making a cinema is one of the things that made it appealing was that anybody could do it. But because the fact that anybody could do it, everybody did it, you know what I mean? So suddenly it was like, we saw this big flood of things.

And they copied the most popular example. Yeah, and it made our thing like I felt, I was at the time, I was a little worried that our thing was gonna get drowned out and people weren't going to be able to tell the difference. Our thing and the other thing, which is those are the exact discussions that lead to people wanting to trade marks and stuff like that to differentiate themselves. And the trademark system is, it's genuinely fucked up anyway. Like there was just a thing that went down with Sony and the Let's Play thing, which we we talked about before.

UPS, as a company, has a trademark on the color brown. Really? As associated with shipping. What can I do for you? Yeah, not even the word, the color. They have a trademark on the color brown. They have a trademark on the color brown. Like the color, the number, the five digit number.

I don't even think, I don't know of trademark so like that easy to, like that specific. And that's where the weird things come out because because of that, you know, and so, you know, and I think if I think if the finds had named their show somewhere early on had named it something else that wasn't as generic. They would be have a better chance of trademarking it because it wouldn't sound like they're trying to trademark People reacting to things or like reaction videos as a genre, you know But the problem is they named their things sounding very similar to what the genre is We should talk about my sister's video though. No, but megastix before I thought I had the best the probably the best commentary on it And then you guys know boogie who makes videos online. Yeah, yeah He had a great like like very objective trying to see both sides of it, you know, kind of a thing, because it's like trying to work through it.

Not everyone tries to do that online. Do you think if a channel goes below a threshold that YouTube revoked the play button? Like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're

like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like back We might find out God I hope it doesn't go that way below 10 million. Yeah, that would be a sick. That would be crazy That's a huge a huge amount. That's probably there were almost at 15 million I think well They were a 14.5 I think yeah one of the comments I saw was a Hey guys congrats on 13 million been subscribed since 14 million since 14 million. That's brutal.

That's brutal. That's brutal. That's brutal. That's brutal. That's really brutal. Fucking brutal. Listen, and I will say this too, it's like, this gets into the other issue too,

which is like, I've never been a fan of internet mobs in any way whatsoever. That's too easy and she. Yeah, it's like, it's just like, it's just like that feeling of piling on. And then I got to the point of, okay, you know, you don't like their business practice. I thought the Mega 64 thing was a very straightforward

critique of it, because they critique like the whole message of, hey, we're doing this thing, that's gonna make us a bunch of money, but it's for you, the community and stuff like that. Totally legitimate criticism. But then I see like posts on Reddit that have like 3000 upvotes, and it's a comparison of one guy's face

to like Steve Bouchemmy and stuff like that. It's like, what are we doing at this point? Like what what is taking place right now? Yeah, and everyone's super happy about it and even the thing the gleeful thing of like posting the sub count going down It's like it's like what is the what's going on here? Like what what's the objective here? Is it is it now? Are we not even hiding the fact that we're like out to destroy someone? We're not trying to change a business practice, but we're trying to actively destroy somebody. But these people, the people on subbing,

do they want them to go out of business? Here's the fun, these are like actual people. Here's the funny thing about the unsubbing too. What unsubbing says what? It's indication they've lost so many subs. It's indication that these are people who are interested in the fine brothers. And by unsubbing, they're showing

they no longer have an interest in the fine brothers and their products. When actually, these are the people who are most interested in the fine brothers right now. These are the people who are actually most engaged. It's like the Howard Stern effect. They're most engaged with what the fine brothers are. You're probably watching the videos more than the others. Yeah, there's the people who watch the update video and game at 3.7 million views and 40 million. Yeah, that's that'd be great to get that. So I just think I think just like, but people have to have a way to demonstrate their clear rage over

this, that this idea that, you know, they're taking, the other thing is they're taking down videos and things like that. And they show the Ellen DeGeneres thing and all these things come out. And it just, it looks really, really, you know, looks bad, you know, across the board. And then nobody believed the apology video or the update video. The update video. Sorry. Let's get to another thing.

Fucking Sony a few weeks ago tried to register Let's Play. The fine brothers at least contribute to the reaction genre. And they are the best example or the highest popular example of reaction videos. Sony tried to trademark Let's Play. They've never done anything. They've had no... They make the games that people use for Let's Play. They make some of the games. Yeah, but they've never done anything they've had no they make them the games that people use for let's make some of the games yeah but they've never produced let's play content yeah there's let's play ever trade market they had I

mean no like a tagline or something no I think they I think well company decided Sony probably registered before the did not launch it as a no coca-co doctor pepper has the let's play dotcom. Okay, that's the same. Sony didn't have anything. They didn't have no thing. Anyway, but in everyone agreed or everyone felt that, the same thing is what the fines are doing with the word react. Why is Sony trying to co-opt this term Let's Play and get a trademark on it?

I'm like, you know, I'm like, but the thing that really frustrates me about this is that Sony's's response or Sony strategy to everyone getting upset about let's play trademarking Sony didn't say a fucking word and we were even talking about that and there are no update It's like we don't know what Sony wants to do with this let's play trademark All we can do is speculate because Sony is not making any clarifying statements at all and what happened? Outrage just disappeared. What did it went away? The fine brothers made a response, and that just blew it up.

It must have been a big decision too. I bet Benny was like, let's do it. Let's make this video. I just think it reinforces the idea that when people get outraged on the internet, you just shouldn't say anything. They also gave an email to people if they want to have questions to email them,

they'll personally answer. What do you think that email is full of? It's people with death threats and probably sending them pictures of dead babies and shit. Better than an email box and in the YouTube comments, right? I get it.

I just wonder if they even look at it. Whatever, I don't like the idea that we would reinforce a strategy that when someone is doing something and there is an actual public outrage about it, I don't like reinforcing the strategy of just like zero response. Like they don't have to be like Sony didn't have to make any clarifying statements. I nobody, nobody put up a counter that showed people unsubscribing from the PlayStation

network because Sony tried to co-op the Let's Play turn. You know, the Let's Play. Uh, uh, uh, uh trade no centralized place to watch that. So what you, you know what I'm saying? There was nobody who, I'm saying nobody who unsubscribed from nobody's trying to start like an uprising. Right, right. It just, it just,

Oh, by the time you found out about that, wasn't the trademark denied? It was denied. It was, yeah, it was denied. But still, it's like, they still tried to do it as well. You think the fine brothers put that in before the Sony one came out and at the time, I think they've had the kids react trademark

in place for a long time. I think from what I read, they applied for it in July. Wow. Of 2015. So when the Sony thing came out, do you think they were like, uh-oh. No, obviously not, because they went ahead with this thing anyway. Do you think Mighty Fine Burger's business

has been affected in light of recent events? That was a dumb question. What happened with the candy crush? I'm looking at you because that's so stupid. I was just kidding. You gotta own it. You can say ridiculous dumb stuff. Nobody laughs. And then we react. Oh, shit. You literally get us no time left. What happened to Candy Crush? I still play it.

No, no, no, no. Like, didn't they try to, they try to license like, you know, candy. They were candy. Yeah, yeah and saga Yeah, I think they got it really yeah, and I think yeah, I know there were some issues with the banner saga Which was another game, but I believe that like they worked out. Oh, you're use of the word saga is different than So guys do it for me. But you launching React World. You do the pitch. This is easy. It's real easy. Okay.

We're going to make a portal. We're going to help you make react videos. Here's access to assets. And we're going to help promote your videos. You just have to put them into this portal. That's it. And then everything else that you would, that was said in that video would just be in a user licensing agreement, just like anything else on the planet, right?

It's still confusing though, because when they did their up-hit video, they mentioned they're only talking about their React format, not just reaction videos in general. When you explain it just now, it sounded like reaction videos in general. But he said React videos. Like, that is, that's where it becomes confusing. It didn't sound like you were saying

in old capitals, though. Oh, okay. So you got to reinforce the old capitals, right? You at least have your eyebrows go up when you say it. React. There you go up when you say it react There you go. That sounds like it was more in caps like if they hit name the series Fine brothers react. No, not even react if they name the series like my fan burgers in first jaw time I don't know what else jaw time jaw time okay, and they and then they say we make we have the jaw time series kids

Jaw time about old phones elders jaw time about Starcraft That's just an actual term. I joke. Is that an actual term? I'm just like, just coming up with something. Like, you know, and then you can make jaw time videos, nobody would have a reaction to them trademarking jaw time. Like nobody, but the fact that they used the generic term, because if you go back to the origin, they were, they were using a format that existed, so they named the show after the format.

That's, that's a problem you can't ever get away away from because that's a branding issue that took place years and years ago. And so they can say react and when they say react, to the fine brothers, that means something very specific. That is a look and feel, that's a set of assets, that's a format for the show, it's people looking, I'm just going to based on what I've seen in the videos, it's people looking at a piece of content, talking about it and then a producer asking them questions in a specific way and then cutting in between those people as they all answer the questions forever.

How do you get all the fact YouTube is going on the show again? What's that? Like you and I have both been on it. I haven't, you know, my son Teddy's been on the kids' react. Yeah, it's cool, is that it? Yep. I'm like, what's on it, too? I wonder what that's gonna mean for the YouTube is react. It's, you're a damn to try to predict that at this point time is who knows you know what I mean

It's it's I think a lot of people have press really ships with them and I think I think they'll be fine They'll continue to I had a lovely time when I was on it That was super nice super nice to me. Yes guys for sure You know, I mean you absolutely never know what I go on a tomorrow probably not probably not But you know like a year from now if nobody if he'll calm down or, you know, things are clarified a little bit better. When everything is fine. Yeah, whenever everything's fine.

I, who knows, who knows? You know, based on what I've said today, I might never be asked again. And I can't understand that. That's how it handles out your mighty fine coke. Your net even for this podcast. Hey. If they want me to do it tomorrow, I'll go do it.

Would you really just say? Okay. I just want to be on the show. 13 million people, huh? Well, maybe 12 million people. I like it in front of 12 million people. I don't care. I just need a platform to talk.

They would never be able to lose their audience there. Like is too many or inactive accounts or what? Like it would, it would, under no circumstances, ever would it go down to zero? They did acknowledge that I think in the update video, because at the end of it says, and if you're just a viewer who has no idea what we're talking about, then sorry,

thanks for sticking with us, I think is what they said at the end of it. It's like, that does, I mean, in a way, it incates their audience is that big, that there's a lot of people, I mean, Reddit, a lot of kids watching, I would read it is the internet to a lot of people, but Reddit's not the whole internet. And this is very specifically, it seems confined to the front page of Reddit in the art videos. Subreddit. But it's man, it's brutal. It's absolutely brutal.

CP Gray made a video against it. That guy is like, he's one of my favorite YouTube creators. And he always seems like very measured, he's brutal, brutal. He's like, I'm guss, if you haven't seen him, he's like, XKCD, but for YouTube. Essentially. I'm familiar with the re-broll. I've never seen it.

I'm totally. You should watch his video about the explanation of how the rings and Lord of the Rings were made in District. Oh, I have seen that. That's that guy. That's a fucking amazing video. Guys amazing. One of my favorite videos of all time. I'll explain it in a little way. Yeah, and where the rings come Lord of the Rings were made in just a minute. Oh, I have seen that. That's that guy. That's a fucking amazing video. Guys amazing.

One of my favorite videos of all time. I'll explain it all the races. Yeah, and where the rings come from and why it matters. It made me want to watch Lord of the Rings. So good. Yeah. So good. All right.

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