Rooster Teeth Podcast - Your Seed Is Always Sticky - #560

Episode Date: September 3, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Rooster Teeth Podcast. This week brought to you by ExpressVPN, Harry's, and theift your Teeth store. I'm Gus. I'm Gavin. I'm Becca. I'm John. What's that?
Starting point is 00:00:51 We're pre-taping, just so you know, it's not live. I don't like pre-taping. I don't like pre-taping podcasts. Well, because everyone shows up late. I don't. I was here. You were there though. I wasn't butt and feet, but I was.
Starting point is 00:01:03 That still means you're 15 minutes late. If you stand over there looking at us for 15, not that you were doing that. But you're still late, because you're not. That would have been over. I'm staring to sell it. But you want to sit down? I'm not ready yet.
Starting point is 00:01:17 But it's also there's no chat, there's no one like, no live interaction. It's just us. We do it at a weird time, like it's in the morning. Yeah. It's like the old podcast. Yeah. I'm coming to do it first thing. I'll put this to you.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Doing the podcast early pre-tap is better than when we have to do on the spot early pre-tap because I'll tell you one thing. It's not very fun to do improv comedy at 10 o'clock in the morning. It's with nobody around. It's just dead side in the studio. We're just trying to make the same kind of jokes and everything. What they love sometimes. No, they don't. My jokes and everything. They laugh sometimes.
Starting point is 00:01:45 No, they don't. My friends, boss. They do not. When one, once every like maybe five, six episodes, and it does mean a lot, when you do hear someone go, like in the back of the booth, but no. The top makes it. The top, just like pokes people, laugh, laugh.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh, I gotta get some kind of, some kind of interaction. Well, I want to cut. I think. Yeah, it's happening. Have you of some kind of interaction. Well, I want to go to the I think. Yeah, it's happening. Have you all not done? I think we have. I mean, yeah, it's been a while. Usually you on my replacement. Yeah. So the podcast gets kind of, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm mad about the free
Starting point is 00:02:19 tape. And I'm going to keep talking about it. Okay. So the podcast gets fucked because we, we live stream on Monday. So it's like holidays are always Friday or Monday. So we always have to pre-tap. So like, why don't we move to the podcast? Yeah. You think we can move it to another day? That Thursday would be great.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I just heard like a bunch of bad holes clenching up like. It could be impossible. There's no way we can move it. There's no way the schedule allows it at this point. I have to trade with someone. I feel like after a weekend, nothing has happened in the week yet, and then you have to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And I can't remember the previous week, because it's Monday. But I would say off topic has the ideal time. Well, no, no, no, because it's still Friday. They still have to pre-taped here. I think so. So you want my slot. I'm with you on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But I like Monday because stuff, well for me, stuff happens to me on the weekend that I can talk about on Monday and it's still first. That's when Gus does things. See, I do nothing at the weekend. I do nothing during the week outside of work. Like I go home and it's like, that's it. I went outside, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I mean, the sat at my underwear playing video games or editing slow-mo guys, I didn't get a chance to do in the week. It's very, very tough. Did your file transfer ever finish? Which one? The one you tweeted about, or was it like 47 terabytes or something?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Uh, no, it's still going. It's still going? Yeah. Because it was like a false estimate. It was actually more like 12 days. Because I'm writing to drives with like two parity drives, so it's doing a lot of, it's really, really slow now. It's still going.
Starting point is 00:03:39 You should send an update about that. And that was a selection of files that wasn't the full amount. I'm doing, I think, 130 terabytes right now. And it's been going for 47 days. Wow. Wow. Did, uh, who was it?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Was it a Captain Disillusion? Disillusion who tweeted at you that'd be easier to copy everything not on the stride. Everything is in the world. That guy's really funny. Is really. Have you seen his videos? I've seen a few of them.
Starting point is 00:04:05 They're really good. He talked about one of them recently. You talked about like framerate. What else? I think he did an aspect ratio one as well recently. I thought was pretty good. It's just like explaining concepts like framerate and aspect ratio to people who may not understand or appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He did a funny response because apparently in one of his videos he had a computer simulation of what happens when pixels are going down the screen on a TV and it was kind of inaccurate based on the footage I've shot. So everyone in the comments was like, actually it looks like this video and he made a response like, oh, apparently some people have already filmed that and it doesn't look exactly how I did it and it was like a kind of a fake aggressive video, which did you manage really funny? Did you manage really funny? Did you aggressive video, which did you manage really funny? Giving a connection with him from that?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. And I've talked about this on off topic actually. If you go back and watch his first video, it's from like 11 years ago, and it's the exact same style. Yeah, because he hasn't changed format. He hasn't changed format. It's like the push through his logo,
Starting point is 00:05:01 the same music, the same red corner in the room. I'm like, how can you be so consistent from day one? Yeah, I've never seen a channel with that one. It was like four by three aspect ratio. It looked like dog. It was like 240p or 360p, but shot the exact same way. And I was so impressed. Impressed?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Impressed? Yeah. Okay. It's like, I think from day one, you know what your style is. And you know, like the is and you know like the direct change. I'm not sure if that was the first video he put up. It's the first video on his channel currently.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm not sure if it's still pre-event years old and it hasn't changed in style. You put them side by side with his newest one probably and it would go the exact same. I mean, I guess there is something to be impressed by consistency, but as an artist and creator, personally, I hate everything I've made like a year ago. And you hate Spider-Man according to your shirt. Yes, I hate Spider-Man and Mondays. And Mondays, for sure. I didn't see the money.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's a good thing it's Monday, right? Yeah, Monday. Labor Day. Now it's partially why I was so, I still haven't pulled the trigger, but it's part of the reason why I never nailed down like a tattoo I wanted, because I was always so concerned,
Starting point is 00:06:05 because my own personal designs and stuff as a graphic designer, I hate everything I made like more than six months ago. And hopefully I'm growing and adapting and changing as a... We shouldn't hate it. Oh, but I hate things about me all the time. So that's just me, that's my thing. But you must look back at some of your own designs
Starting point is 00:06:22 and have favorites. There's the nostalgic connection to them, but on an actual creative level, like technical skill and that kind of thing, I'm like, wow, that was bad. That's good though. That means you've improved. Right. And I think that's not a bad thing to want to improve constantly. And like, I'm not like going like, oh, I'm such a bad artist. No, it's like, oh, good. I'm actually advancing. That's good to look back on. Same as like, if I ever like post those pictures of me who's fat, John's like, I don't like that John. I like that I'm not that John anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:52 But I mean, at the same time, you know, if he hasn't changed his format in 11 years and likes that, more power to him. I'm not hating on his creativity or anything like that. I just personally, I could not do that. No, I could see that. I could see both sides. Or it could be if it was me, it would be laziness.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'd be like, how did you made an intro? I made it 11 years ago. I don't need to make another one. Yeah, it's not laziness for him because each intro is shot. You know, it's a different shot, but it's the same style. And he lays over the logo on a new intro that shot. Yeah. I always loved your sort of Easter eggs in your designs.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Like the, uh, suck my nut in Latin on the mark nut shirt. Was it suck my nut or something like that? Or was it was something there was something in Latin on the design? Oh, that's right. The mark nut shirt that was like the Olympics one. Yeah. I've no idea what the Latin was, but yeah, I tried to sneak in stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 As much as I can. One of my favorite Easter eggs of a design ever was, but yeah, I tried to sneak in stuff like that as much as I can. One of my favorite easter eggs of a design ever was Patrick Rodriguez did a poster where he drew a bunch of the RT cast as like Grecian, Toga, looking people. Grecian. Grecian. Is this correct?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yes. Like people from Greece? Yeah. Like, is that wrong? Not that this one is Greek, but all right that wrong? I don't know. That's just what is Greek. But all right. Well, I don't know. I'm an inanimate object's Grecian and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:12 If I had a Greek apple, would it be a Grecian apple? Yeah. Is there an apple that's Greek? I mean, I've grown up in Greece. Anyways, the Easter egg was that the boy, he gave it like, you know, Deco type, there it is right there. So around the border, you can't see it in this image,
Starting point is 00:08:33 but there's a border and you can see it's a repeating pattern. If you look in on it, it's cock and balls. Yeah, oh my God. It's cock and balls over and over again. So like, is it done like the border? If you, there they are. You see? Oh my God. It's cocking balls over and over again. So is it done like the... So like the border. If you, if you, there they are. You see it's hard to see it's hard to see. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It's the balls and then the dick and then the dick, rest on it and the balls rest on that one is, it's pretty great. I mean, it's totally on them. Yeah. So yeah. Grecian means in a style used by the inhabitants of Greece.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So anyone could make a Grecian earn. Greek means either an inhabitant of Greece or from Greece. So a Greek earn must come from Greece. Egregation earn can be used to describe the aesthetic product classical got it job. Johnny. What's another example of that from another country? Oh God. Like Germanic. But what's the other one? Yeah, because you're not you're not Germanic. Germanic but what's the other one? Yeah, cuz you're not you're not Germanic I don't know I've also lost
Starting point is 00:09:29 Scandinavian or IKEA I don't know that's a that's it that's weird yeah I didn't know oh I don't know there's like there's some there's some, there's some, it's weird that we have terms like that to describe. What about American and Americana? Americana is a noun. Oh yeah, you don't say like it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:09:54 Americana quilt. Yeah, and Americana quilt, you don't say like an Americana quilt, something like that. All right, I tried. I tried. So you're talking about the captain dissolution having his intro for 11 years. And maybe think about other things that have been around for a long time. And I was thinking about Netflix the other day.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And about there, who is I think Ezra had a tweet about Netflix and maybe really think about them. And they've been around now for 21 years. That's wild. Yeah, that's right. And they still have plenty of physical media customers. And I thought that doesn't seem like a business that would be significant for them anymore, especially with Red Box and, you know, a lot of other streaming alternatives.
Starting point is 00:10:35 But they just passed a milestone the other day. And they shipped their five billionth disc. Jesus Christ. That's so many discs. But at the... The fact that it's a physical transaction is what makes that remarkable. I don't even know how many like, good joins of things they've streamed, but actually the physical acts may like something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Taking a disc, putting it in a non-volop, sealing it, and then putting it in the mail. Like they've sent it to people five billion times, and then it's come back to them five billion times. If you think about it. I'm sure it's exponentially less. Okay, people are still losing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, I'm surprised still at how many people still, like, buy a lot of physical media. No, I'm not surprised that physical media is still out there. I'm just surprised at how big of a market it still is. I still buy 4-cated discs. I totally get that because especially if you're buying the high-end version of resolution stuff and you don't want to be worried about any sort of bandwidth issues that are going to cause a loss of quality, I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:11:40 However, I was at Walmart not too long ago. Most of it because Walmart has the best selection of sugary cereals. Yeah, if there's like strange promotional cereals, you can often get them at Walmart's better than like HB or Target. Fun tangent. No, but I was then check out line and I just turn back
Starting point is 00:12:01 and you know, you managed to take a peek at what other people are buying when you're like standing there and check out line. And this woman was buying a DVD, a brand new DVD copy of 1998's Godzilla. Huh. How much was it? It was like five bucks. Teller bin.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But I was like, that bucks is a rip off. Yeah, there's no way. Hey, shut up. I love that movie. It's a rip off. And B, I was just like, good on you. You know, if you want, if you now are like, you know what, I want that copy of a, oh, and I think it might have been standard instead
Starting point is 00:12:33 of white screen. I think that's on as a standard. Like a 4-3 aspect ratio. 4-3 aspect. So she was buying that Godzilla DVD. Not a blue ray, just a DVD. Did it come with the Jimueraacwai soundtrack? What was that? Did he do the music on that? Yeah, that's awesome. What's he up to these days?
Starting point is 00:12:51 I'm trying to get about Jumiracwai the other day. What's he up to? I thought it looked it up. Does Billie Eilish have any other songs in that one song? I don't think I know any of them. If anyone can tell me, Billie Eilish, I'd appreciate it. She's my doppelganger. That's all I know
Starting point is 00:13:05 You do have the same aesthetic. I just heard she's got that one song and people love that song I played a lot and she was on hot ones recently and She's she's gone places. I haven't heard anything other than that one song So someone proved that she is more than a one-hit wonder what fucking weirdos on Google People are fucking bizarre. So I didn't know Billy eyelashes So I type Billy eyelash into Google and you know, it says people also ask and it's like related questions I guess common questions about Billy eyelash. Sure. They're four of them is Billy eyelash mixed What is Billy eyelash net worth does Billy eyelash write her own songs? What ethnicity is Billy eyelash?
Starting point is 00:13:43 People are really hung up on this ethnicity question. Yeah, that was how it makes race, is that what they're asking? Right. What does it say for you? Well, let me see. Gus, you're Gus or Gustavo. Let's see Gustavo. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:53 No, yeah. Gustavo. There is, okay. Oh, four. How much is Gus Sarola worth? It's Gustavo Asshole. What is Rupert's teeth net worth? Was Jeff Ramsey in the military?
Starting point is 00:14:05 When did Ray quit achieving 100? I only watched him, right? I was in the middle of the world. I only watched him. I only watched him. I only watched him. I only watched him. That's all I wanted.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Uh, Gustav Rola. Um, it's pretty much the same thing. What does Gustav Rola do? How much is Gustav Rola worth? What is Rupert's teeth net worth? Was Jeff Ramsey in the military? Jeff's still in there. Jeff is still in there. Jeff is still in there.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's funny. Yeah, that's stupid. I would say. So you were talking about buying physical media and I was agreed with you. I buy physical media quite a bit. What do you use as your 4K physical media player? Like when you have 4K discs, you put it in your place.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Play station can't play 4K discs. Or maybe Xbox one. We have both. Xbox one, Xbox for me. Does 4 Pro not play 4K? No Maybe Xbox one. We have both. Xbox one X for me. Does 4 Pro not play 4K? No, yes 4 Pro does not. I don't buy 4K discs. So I use my Xbox one X. It's a 4K disc.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's a fucking terrible 4K player. I have an Xbox one X. Sometimes I'll put in, like I'll get in your 4K disc. And I'll be like, cool, I want to watch this. I'll put it in my Xbox and then it'll go black. It's like it launches the blue eyed player or whatever. It was black and it says like disc red air. Like what?
Starting point is 00:15:11 So I'm not gonna eject it and I'll look at it. It's like this a brand new fucking disk. Put it back in, same thing, disc red air. So I'll clean the disk, put it back in, disc red air. Reboot it, then it works fine. You need to, you have a future career in product testing technology, because I swear if there is a possible bugger error or absurdity that something's going to, going to cause, you're going to find it.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'll find it. It'll happen every week. I swear every week, I hear you talking about some weird error. And sometimes I, the Apex Legends one that we dealt with recently was one that we both, we both recreate. Literally, you went down this path, told me the step-by-step process you did in order to debug a absurd error.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And step-by-step, like five minutes behind you, I went through the same steps. And exactly everything that happened. And so it worked out. But I feel like you have the touch that just pulls out. Yeah, the bugs. I think if anyone has played more than 10 movies on the next Fox 1x, 4K
Starting point is 00:16:12 disc, everyone is run into a problem. Yeah. That thing, that app sucks. Sometimes it's like something went wrong. And sometimes it will just get really laggy. If you see that where it's just like the frame rate drops. It's like, I guess the buff is full. Let's pause it and wait for a bit. From your physical to it.
Starting point is 00:16:29 So then what do you watch your 4Ks on? Xbox One X. Okay. There's not many options. I don't want to buy standalone players. I've already got an Xbox. Yeah, it's, I would probably get like a better player, but it's just a complete waste of money if you have,
Starting point is 00:16:43 you know, that's already one of these But you buy the 4k for what reason? The movie? Yes. Oh, I just want really high bit rate. But then you don't get it because of the way that you're playing it. I get it. It's once is working. It's a work.
Starting point is 00:16:59 What do you say if you watch 10 movies? One of them will probably mess up. Yeah, okay. Most of the time, if you're- It's not if you watch 10 movies, one of them will probably mess up. Yeah. Okay. Most of the time, if you're- It's not every single time. No, it's just completely inconsistent part of garbage. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:17:12 So you mentioned that Apex problem that I had the other week. It's pretty cool. I had a fucking World of Warcraft problem as well. No, Wild Classic is out. I'm a glutton for a bunch of it. We streamed for seven hours the other day. We did.
Starting point is 00:17:24 We streamed for seven hours in Wild Classic. Then did. We streamed for seven hours in wild classic. Then you would have been playing again. Then I went home and kept playing. We actually ended the stream, both of us so tired, so spent, so done with each other and wild classic. You would done with him? We sat next to each other for seven hours. Seven hours, that's a long time to like have to hang out
Starting point is 00:17:39 and play wild classic with someone else. We weren't like punching each other like like, and we were just both like, I wanna go do something else. I'd like to not be around you or anybody else at that point. I was like, I force you to stream for that one, why don't you stream for like four hours? Cause we want, we just,
Starting point is 00:17:55 we, you know. It seemed like a good idea until we were doing it. Oh yeah, you watch, like if you take just a snap of the first minute of the stream and the last minute you will see the like, the duality of man. Condensed into two clips. So dumb.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But yeah, I mean, we just want a stream for seven hours. But I had a problem when I went to install it on my home machine a couple of weeks ago, where it's like the way you install it is you launch like the Blizzard launcher and you click on World of Warcraft and it's like a little drop down where it's like World of Warcraft or World of Warcraft classic
Starting point is 00:18:25 So they're okay. I'm gonna start World of Warcraft classic so I clicked on the drop down and it wasn't World of Warcraft classic was not there It's like that's weird. So I rebooted looked again. It wasn't there. Did the launch any update? Right. It's like maybe the launcher needs an update tried to update the launcher same thing like hmm So that well here. Well, maybe I'll just uninstall the launcher and reinstall Went to uninstall the launcher uninstall failed I was like I guess I'll try to I'll try to it download the launcher installer and reinstall the launcher on top of itself
Starting point is 00:18:57 We tried to do that that failed Rebooted then went to the drop down and it was there where the more classic was there We're hiding. It was so easy just had to reboot. No, I rebooted several then went to the drop down and it was there. Where the more classic was there. We had hiding. It was so fucking weird. You just had to reboot. No, I rebooted several times along this process. So that's to speak to your weird shit happens to me. Yes, it happens all the time. Yeah, and that's what I mean is that you have those kinds of absurdities happen to
Starting point is 00:19:17 these little, little whists and error. I came up with the ultimate products, by the way. Oh. I'm invented a new one. I'm sure you want to say it on a podcast. Yeah, yeah Right get your notepads up. You're gonna mix the money. It's a holder for the other two AA batteries When you open a pack of four and you just need to oh my god
Starting point is 00:19:38 What's the holder look like I thought I just two batteries? I just are 3D I keep them in the package the key man though Yeah, I do a real nice. You get the Amazon ones with a pack of, like, a quick watch. Oh, it's too off and then, and then you go, you need two more. It's like, where's that two I left? Well, do you keep the like the cardboard box
Starting point is 00:19:53 they come in, the little sleeve? I keep that and just put it, keep them in there. Okay, so you can get it in my dip. You can get it in my dip. Yeah, it's called a box. It's also called like a junk drawer in your house. Like, you just throw it over the batteries in there. I mean, they're in there.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I just go out loud. Yeah, I've got, I've got a drawer with that. And then in that drawer is a Ziploc bag filled with every kind of battery. Yeah. It's like, that's what I do. It's like, as I get the batteries, I put them in that Ziploc bag.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's like, what do I need? Oh, look at that Ziploc bag. Oh, so that will individual. Right, it's like a gallon Ziploc bag. Yeah, I just got like a bunch of wads of four. Because that's the, they come in like little, little fours. You buy this from, you get the Amazon ones? I normally just get at whatever the store, whatever they have, like in the checkout. Get those fancy little. Oh, false. You buy these from, get the Amazon ones? I normally just get at whatever the store,
Starting point is 00:20:26 whatever they have, like in the checkout. Get those fancy batteries. Oh no, they last longer. Do they? I don't know about compared to the Amazon ones. Amazon ones are pretty good. But typically like big name batteries. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They already have them. Is that empty? Yeah. All right. They already have them. Is that an empty? That's a top bone. That was a top bone. That required coordination. It was like picking the child you're like, those two different ones from two hands.
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Starting point is 00:22:17 that can be like the season one of the shorts and we needed double a batteries for a law because our lobs were dying so normally it was like a pharmacy down the street would go to and buy whatever batteries to power them. One time we sent Jeff to go buy the batteries and he went down there and he bought like the cheapest like whatever CVS brand batteries that were there. And he brought it back and I was like, why did you buy these, dude? He's like, they were the cheapest ones.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He's like, yeah, they're gonna last like 30 minutes and they're gonna fucking die. We have to go back and get more. And you get it. Yeah, they're gonna last like 30 minutes and they're gonna fucking die. They're gonna have to go back and get more. Is that okay? Yeah, they don't last very long. That's like an hour maybe. It's like money, did he save? He's probably saved like three bucks.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It was like, the name brand was like, the last a few hours, a last a while. Yeah. Fucking idiot. Have you ever had batteries go like corrode in something and ruin the device? Yeah. Okay, boy.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I had that happen recently with my flash from my DSLR and I was very sad because that's something I don't want you to have. Yeah, and so I got all chemist on it and removed all of the corroded materials. Would you use like lemon or something? Vinegar or lemon? Yeah, something acidic. Yeah, like a Q-tip or something? Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And after a little bit bit it finally worked. So I was very happy about that. It's very satisfying when you can do little hacks and save something that so wise. I do this a lot and so much is possible because of YouTube. Like if you go go your problem like I like weird water trickling out of the bottom of my freezer. It's like a million people with videos and tutorials with the same model. Exactly. Like, yeah, save me $1,000. Yeah, I had a fridge.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I used to have a fridge that had a water dispenser in it and it's like the water dispenser quit working. So I just put the model number in the YouTube and it's like water broken. And it's like, oh, here's the tutorial on how to disassemble that part and replace it. It's like a tiny plastic clip inside that was broken. Like go to this website or to this specific part number, which costs like $1.50, then take out the old one and put the new one in.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Talking about going down rabbit holes of YouTube and like those little pockets of YouTube that are interesting, I went down a weird rabbit hole recently, full disclosure, I like to listen to ASMR on occasion. It calms me, I like it. And you, I don't know of other people who are like this, when you find like an artist that you like, you'll subscribe to their channel. That's to you, you watch their videos every once in a while. And then YouTube, what is YouTube do?
Starting point is 00:24:40 When you watch a bunch of stuff, it recommends other things for you. So you get other recommendations every once in a while. You'll see some. I clicked on artist artist recently because the thumbnail looked interesting. So I checked out, I was like, this person's actually very talented. Their production value is really good. It's an interesting part of the ASMR thing that's changed over the years. And just YouTube in general is that, you know, it's gone from like low fight.
Starting point is 00:24:59 If people are doing like high end production stuff with like lots of lights and lots of set and dressing, anything like that and the different stuff. So I was like, oh, you're interesting. I'll be able to see the rest of your channel, see if you have other stuff. And then every once in a while, when I find a new YouTube channel, I'm always interested in like,
Starting point is 00:25:14 what do people write in the about section? Like, what else is there? And I looked and she wrote a bunch of stuff about herself and then she had other channels. I was like, you have other channels that are not ASMR. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna check out your thing. Now, to keep in mind, her ASMR channel was fairly new,
Starting point is 00:25:29 only had like five videos and a few have gone viral in that kind of thing. That's what happens with those videos often is that enough people like it and you get like 200,000, 300,000 views on this channel on this video. I went and checked out, she had a cooking channel. I was like, all right, let me just, I'm just curious. I'm, I've bought it in this far.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Let's see what else. Went to her cooking channel. Her cooking channel was one of those YouTube channels that I'm amazed by where she had at minimum, like 50 to 70 to maybe like 100 videos she had made on this cooking channel. So she's invested a ton of time. And as I'm scrolling down these videos,
Starting point is 00:26:03 these videos are like nine to 10 to 15 minutes long. And they're fully edited. Like I clicked on a couple, they're fully edited. And she's trying to make thumbnails that fit the algorithm or anything like that. Views wise though, every single of these videos, not much more than 500 to a thousand views. And which is low to maintain a YouTube channel that you're uploading that much.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And she's been doing this forever for years. She's doing it. And I'm always, I kind of want to talk to people like that. Like if you put that much energy into an endeavor like that channel where she is filming these vlog style and editing and putting all this time into it and getting nothing in return as far as like monetary value or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:26:47 is it simply just the act of making these videos as a reason why they keep doing this forever. I guess it's a passion. That's amazing to me, that like, to put that much energy into something on a platform that usually, why you're doing that is in order to gain notoriety and get some sort of monetary return.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And she just, nothing. For the love of it. I love the one a lot, but there are a few YouTubers who became big just for making videos for their friends to watch. Ryan's toys review or whatever. They did it just to send videos back home to their family. Which I get that, that's very similar to vlog brothers.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's their origin story. They made an experiment of trying to see if they could only communicate to each other for, I don't know, I think it was like a year only via YouTube videos. They stopped emailing and stopped texting each other and they only communicated via their vlogs. And that was their thing and now they're a whole empire. But like hobby for a lot of people. It's a hobby, but then like how how long did those channels you just named, how long did it take?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Don't know. That's what I'm like, usually I'd do it for years upon years. I feel like there's usually like one video, right? That just like blows up. Right. And they're like, oh shit, this is the model. This is what I do now.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. I get the struggle and the push towards it. Like even like, Lannin's a good example. Lannan was someone who he was making, you know, let's plays and they some were doing better than others, but they weren't like, they weren't viral successes every single one and then he found his niche eventually
Starting point is 00:28:18 and then exploded into the Fortnite guy that he is now. He got 1.5 million subs in one month. Oh my God. You never, I'll say this. You never know when it's gonna happen. Like we kind of had a similar thing when we started this company. You know, we, this wasn't the first website we made.
Starting point is 00:28:33 We used to make other websites and we would get 300 hits a month or you know, something ridiculously low like that. And we'd spend hours, expect that it was writing. There was no video on the internet. We'd spend hours writing and taking photographs of stuff. And it was mainly just to entertain our friends or whatever random There was no video on the internet. We'd spend hours writing and taking photographs of stuff and it was mainly just to entertain our friends
Starting point is 00:28:46 or whatever random weirdos strangers were on the internet. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, we were making, we started making websites in 99, I wanna say, and we just start with Chief Tilo 3. So we spent four years just making stuff because we liked it. It was a hobby.
Starting point is 00:29:00 We wanted to put funny stuff on the internet. It's also back then though that the notion of getting rich from something like that was unheard of. Oh, that was crazy. Yeah. It was totally just for fun. Yeah, I used to, I had a high eight little camcorder and I would have had this one friend.
Starting point is 00:29:13 We would every single weekend for like two years, just two videos. But no reason. It never went anywhere. Would you still do that now? If you had the amount of free time. Yeah, if I had the free time, yeah, it was a hobby, like my entire life was making content.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We used to make just like, Jackass kind of video. Of course. And I tell you there too, like, I guess, I guess, A, to be clear, I'm amazed that she's clearly doing this because she likes doing these videos and it gives her satisfaction and she's enjoying it. There's no other reason she's doing it for that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So that's fantastic. It's more so that like, I guess maybe in my older age, I'm like, I'm not gonna, like I'm gonna put time into things that are gonna, you know, return something back a lot more to me. But maybe that's because I become an old, curmudgeonly grandpa. Nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I mean, that says the poster child of that fan club. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. I appreciate people putting the, putting the work in the light. It might also be just sort of a testing ground for her other channel where she's learning video editing techniques or something. And she just wants to apply in a useful way.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That's a great point that she probably wouldn't have like gotten to that production value of the other channel without having like gone through all of that gauntlet with the cooking channel and that kind of thing. Totally get it. Yeah. I like seeing TPG, so you should channel? TPG? Yeah, the green life. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Just like counting videos. And he said the reason he started that channel was because he was working so much with YouTubers as part of full screen and all that stuff. Sure. He was like, I should really know how all this works. So he just started regularly making videos to sort of like see what everything was involved. And he still makes them. I think that's a brilliant reason to just understand it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 That's right. I don't know anyone in sales. That's what I was like. You know, I'm gonna make a YouTube channel. Yeah, I mean, I totally understand that. Like, I guess it's similar to I work out at the gym as much as I do, not because I'm gonna get paid to do it or because I'm gonna get some sort of prize in the end.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I put that investment in because it gives me satisfaction in the return that I want. So I guess if like making YouTube videos without you know, guarding any audience that's gonna go above what you've got now for the next like five years, if that still is giving you satisfaction, keep doing it, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You know, talking about a YouTube and content creation and stuff. I think before we did this most recent podcast on Monday, I told Gavin something before we started that I thought was really weird. Whenever I see, you know, obviously, slow-mo guys, very, very popular. Who? Sl-
Starting point is 00:31:39 Sl-mo guys. And it's weird to me whenever I see other people like posting or reporting on a slow-mo guys video You know, they'll have a headline like guy slices arrow in half with a katana and I'd be like it's weird that it's Dan It's guy I know guy God does that man gets trapped in giant balloons like yeah, that's Dan. Yeah, I know him It's always funny when you see me to go What do you see someone you know written?
Starting point is 00:32:05 You know, it's like this is the first time you've ever done it. Yeah, like when Michael eats but ribbed it's like potentially insane man. Yeah, it's funny when you know the person. Yeah, he's like that person's like right over there. I could go. Guy is over there. It's like a weird weird it's like knowing There's no more to many. Yeah, I'm friends. That was it. That's it. It's no longer a boy. People were annoyed at the direction that we sliced the arrow in. A lot of people I guess were expecting a split arrow that way. It was possible. Wow. So the internet had a broad
Starting point is 00:32:38 and hard-to-heart-could-be-one about something you did in video. I wouldn't say it was harsh. I was saying a lot of people just expected the other way. But they were like this. So what you're explaining is they were thinking that you were going to shoot the arrow at Dan. Dan would have to stand with the sword in front of him. Yeah, you'd have to hit the sword. I'm sure we could do. But an arrow. Did that right? Like,
Starting point is 00:32:56 I'm going to go with an arrow. Right. But video there's a multiple reasons why that'd be very hard. One, the wood grain would have to be like right along the arrow. So it would go out. Otherwise it would would splinter out. And also, arrows don't fly straight. They actually do that. So it's like, you would cut some of it off. So if you've got a arrow that flies like a bull, so you can crossbow maybe. You get shot. And the thing. What you need to do is you need to make a second video showing how the wobbliness happens and you can't you can't split it. But you can see the wobbliness in the video you uploaded.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Yeah, I mean, yeah. A lot of people were really confused because you can see the phantom like looking right down. Yeah. But the first shot or like one of the shots, it's like a super wide of me viewing it down and they're like, did he edit the phantom out of the wide shot? I was like, how many, do you think we have like four fountains
Starting point is 00:33:47 all in this? We just shut it a bunch of times. It's just coverage. So many people are confused. Like, they edited out the fountains. No, it's editing. It's editing. You have other, you can take other shots.
Starting point is 00:34:00 How many of your videos are you able to get multiple shots? Like, it seems like some of them, it's a one in debt, like blowing up a car. Yeah, blowing up a car. That's the one. That's the one. Yeah. Most stuff you can shoot a ton of times.
Starting point is 00:34:14 We always buy enough stuff to repeat the thing, even if we edited it as one moment. You had the wire wool, is that what it is? That makes the firey sparks? In that video, I think I must have watched that yesterday or something while I was cooking. And you had the sparks hit you on your leg and they were hurting you through the fire resistant suit.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah, well it's fire resistant. It's not like spiny pieces of metal. Is that what it was? Is that it was just getting hit by small, shrapnel plakes of iron. I was just, I feel. That was confusing me. I was like, wow, that suit did nothing? No, I mean, it's not, I don't know what suit you would,
Starting point is 00:34:54 you'd probably have to wear some sort of thick mesh to prevent that from going through. Like maybe those volcanic suits? Yeah, it was just for, it was mainly just so I wasn't bare-legged. Didn't make me different. Did Lee, did Lee leave any marker anything? I don't think so. No, no, really make me different. Deadly, didn't leave any mark or anything? I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:35:10 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, back of my left leg. And I was like, at the time I was like, oh, that really hurt. And then like three days later, I had this giant purple welt on my leg.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You're a bruise, I feel like. I'm gonna make an app where when something happens, you log it. So three days later, you know what that bruise came from. Right, it's like, I never correlate it together. I've got this cut on my finger here the other day. And I remember when it happened, like I remember what it was
Starting point is 00:35:46 I know it's like oh, I think that's gonna cut me and this morning I was like yep, I got a little scab there But I don't remember what it was anymore. I did I did a I did a boo boo during I think it was actually like one of the nights of RTX when I went home and I just wanted to Make some dinner and be alone which happens at RTX and But I went home and you showed off your bruise. Is it there? You probably can't see on camera. Is it gone down?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh, I guess so to see the discoloration. Yeah, oh wow, yes. There's the shingles. It's not shingles. You want to lick it? Oh. Yuck. No, I cut my finger, but I cut it so much I actually took
Starting point is 00:36:23 an actual, like a little divot hole out of it, but normally like you know you cut your finger when you're cooking like ah that sucks. This time I did and I was like I don't feel that at all. That's not a good sign. Well it's because climbing you build up like I don't feel a lot on the ends of my fingers anymore like like my I don't feel much either on the ends of my fingers anymore. Like my- I don't feel much either.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Someone's zooming closely. Oh, God, that's like, says that. No, but especially my pinkies, I don't feel very much on the ends anymore because I build up and just callous and that kind of thing. But it was that instance, it was like, that's a lot of skin I just cut off. I should feel that, but I still wrapped it up
Starting point is 00:37:01 and I cleaned everything and it was fine. But anyway, it kind of concerned me. Yeah, especially on injuries where you can see your injury. It's like a separate piece of your body. Yeah. Oh, that's what I can hold up to the light and see, like, you know, a puzzle piece whole. Do you think that's affected your finger blasting ability?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Okay, so it's finger blasting, yes. No. You think you're still good? Yeah, I don't think finger blasting, yes. No. You think you're still good? Yeah, I don't think finger blasting requires a lot of like tip of the finger dexterity. Not dexterity, but you need to feel what you're doing. Sure, I still feel my hands, like I can still feel it's going in fact. I often have to, when I climb walls. Nothing like a calloused finger tip.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I was going to say, I ever affected the receiving end of that shirt? Sure. We're not concerned with that here, Becca. I'm always dressed a lot. Okay. I'm always dressed a lot, because it does rough up your hands a lot. Is that important for you?
Starting point is 00:37:56 What? A nice, soft fingertip. I don't know. I guess I'd prefer a hard one. Yeah. There you go. Okay. You're in better. I was looking through old chat logs the other day.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And I realized that Becca and I were friends. There's a past tense here. I thought there was gonna be more than that thing. No, but I was like, like, this is my friend. Becca was just starting to recognize, you know, I was like, see you in the whole web, like, so I have a little chat by the, I don't do that with most people though. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But then I was looking back at these chat logs, it was like aim and stuff. And I was like, damn, these could back a really long time. We used to talk all the time online since like 2005. That was like a, maybe like 2008, 2009. We would talk most nights online. And I've forgotten it.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I completely forgotten that we had this like relationship before where we were like buddies and chams. I was like reading back through all the stuff that we used to talk about. And it's still me like I'm reading my responses. I'm like, oh yeah, I would say that. But somehow just forgotten all of it. Wow, man.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I remember a lot. I mean, I remember talking to you a lot and always considering you a friend. I remember like the essence of it. Wow, remember? It meant a lot. I mean, I remember talking to you a lot and always considering you a friend. I remember like the essence of it. I don't really remember talking to you that pretty much. But it might be the first time I've ever forgotten the significance of a relate. Like we were friends and then just drifted
Starting point is 00:39:20 into just work acquaintances. We're not work acquaintances. How often do we talk in real life? What are the other things that look on her face? You and I text pretty often. Yeah, but that's the more recent thing. Becca is legitimately upset at you right now. I know, but I would say now we're back to sort of where we were.
Starting point is 00:39:41 There was a big gap in the middle. Okay, yeah. Well, I don't think we spoke for years. No, I've got years. No. But things happen with, you know, not to get deeper philosophical, philosophical, but things happen and you have other priorities.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Like, you know, you have a kid. Yeah, I'm sure. But I would always, usually remember, oh, I used to be good friends with that. You're just surprised that you blocked this out. I would have said that we're, we taught more now than ever. But that's just not the case.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah. I mean, I would see you probably like once or twice a year at our low point. But you mean more so like, oh, I mean, at the least amount that you, yeah. Okay. Just, I don't think we like talked online or anything. Not.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I mean, I think everyone's stuff using aim. Yeah, aim was, I think the downfall of aim is the downfall of our friendship. Yeah. And then when I moved all this chat looks the way I just apparently moved all the memories of our friendship into the hard drive as well. Yeah. But yeah, you're like one of my oldest friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Well, I'm glad I'm back to being a friend. Yeah, it's funny to me You know, there's a lot of people who work here and you know a lot of people who are on camera But there's even more people who are not on camera all the way more now and you know We did this past Monday. We did a podcast with Drew Sapplin for the first time ever and I was reading through the comments on YouTube for it and one of the YouTube comments was, I like that Drew guy. He seems to really fit in with everyone. It's like, well, yeah, because we know him.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It's like kind of the same position you're in. Like, you're not someone who's seen on camera all the time, but conceivably, we've known you for years. And even if not, like, we see you people every day. When we work on projects together. Did he say on the podcast what his first production was? I don't think you say what the first one was. Is it Lazer Team?
Starting point is 00:41:28 That's first time I met you. Yeah, Lazer Team 1. Was that the first thing you did? That's the first time I ever met. I remember who was... He was second AD. You were second AD? Lazer Team.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Almost one AD. I don't remember. Yeah, because I remember, I remember, because I was on set a couple of dozen times. And I remember him and then him like Starting to pop up at other things post laser team. I remember him doing million dollars, but yeah Yeah, I think I think he did a lot of work with MDB remember the first time I remember I think that's
Starting point is 00:41:57 The first thing I What's on the heat directed was MDB? And it's great me too. I'm a big Drew Saplon event. That's just great. Yeah. He's one of those, there's, like on the side of like talking about like people who are on camera more often than people aren't,
Starting point is 00:42:16 there's like a lot of people that are off camera that because of our interaction with them, we can fall in love with them a lot more than the audience gets an opportunity to. And those are the kind of people that's like, I just want to be able to just, I want to just push them out towards the audience but this is one of the funniest people I've ever met.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You need to just focus on this person, like stop focusing on everything else, like we have a like a gem here. And you can't force that adoration from an audience, but there's people like that that I wish there was something. They're more of an outlet. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Drew's great example.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Andrew Rosa is another great example of someone who's like, this is a comedic genius. I don't want to get them on the podcast. Yeah, the both of them in the microwave heists. They're like the best pot. Who was it? We were in the house business moment. Yeah, it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:43:00 We were in our office the other day, and who was there? I think it was Sam was in there. He couldn't find the microwave. Oh, yeah. Do we need to talk about that? Do we want to talk about that? Maybe not. A lot of it's going to be so face-up.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's hidden. The, yeah, the longest chart of it is the microwave. We don't have a microwave. If we did, it's hidden. Yeah. You stole and then hid the microwave. You should go check it out. It's brilliant. Is it in a cupboard?
Starting point is 00:43:32 I think I'm going to be there later today. I'll point it out every moment. I'm shooting something solid. Yeah, I'm going to see more later. Talking about the creative geniuses, I wish the audience could get more of its Clem. Clem is fucking hilarious. And I am so happy every time she gets to show up
Starting point is 00:43:50 and shit, favorite moment ever was the forming the team short. And we're doing the walking out shot of us coming out of the hangers, the slumber thing. And we're all supposed to just walk towards the camera and then spread out, Clem's there and she's got her dynamite that she has as part of it. And she's just picking her nose right up to the camera and walking.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Just like lolly gagging. Like everyone's scattered, she's just walking behind everyone. No. And I was like, it's one of those times where like a take happens during a shoot, you're like, please use that take, please use that take. And they did. John immediately picked up on it. He's like, we got a boogie. Like, what, did you have a bat in the cave? You're like, please use that take. Please use that take and they did. John immediately picked up on it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 He's like, we got a boogie. Like, what, did you have a bat in the cave? You're like, no, she's, that's gone. We got that. Wow. It's great. Clem's so good. She pumped me yesterday.
Starting point is 00:44:35 She convinced me that she had a stomach ache and couldn't go to school. So she came to work with me yesterday and it was immediately fine. Eight, every snack here, fucked around. I was like, oh my God, you fake sick now. I need to be on guard about that. Did you do that as a kid?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh yeah, all the time. Though my mom was not having it. And let's say at a fever, I was going to school. And so I learned how to fake a fever. She would leave and I would rub the thermometer on the palm of my hand to create heat and friction. It's a second. Even though that is cheating the system,
Starting point is 00:45:04 you're using some physics knowledge there to get away from school. So you've clearly learned something. That's a thing about being parent that you do not think about that you're going to experience. Like when you're a parent, you're like, I'm going to experience them learning to walk. I'm going to be there for them to learn how to talk and how to put food in their mouths but on their own. That kind of thing. You don't realize I'm going to watch my kid learn how to walk. I'm going to be there for them to learn how to talk and how to, you know, put food in their mouths, but on their own that kind of thing. You don't realize I'm going to watch my kid learn how to lie. Like that is literally a skill you are going to watch
Starting point is 00:45:32 them do. And you're going to judge them for how bad they are at doing. Oh yeah. For a while. And then, but then all the while you're going to worry about the day that they're going to be able to get a pull one over you and you're like, oh, you actually outlined me. Like, I didn't catch you in time. Luckily, both my children are terrible at lying. They are just the worst. And I tell them that every single time, like, you need to get better at this or be more honest. That's how this is gonna work out. Yeah, this middle ground, it worked. Is you getting in trouble all the time? You're just wasting my time. Mm-hmm. I've caught my eldest lying to my youngest in the backseat of the car about something that involves me.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Like, and I told him like, I'm driving, and she's trying to tell her something about like, we were something we were gonna do tomorrow. And I'm like, I'm here. Like, like, the fact checker is inches from you, stop it. Stupid. Like when I'm not around. Yeah, be better about that.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Do you take lots of video of your kids? No. I don't actually. I don't, some people probably take this as me being a bad parent. I don't really take my phone out for photos and videos very much with my kids. And I often actually think about that.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I don't think that's being a bad parent means you're present. It's a compromise, right? Sure. It's one or the other. I'm a videographer to follow you around. There you go. It's just something that,
Starting point is 00:46:57 because I have them on a very intermittent basis now as being a single parent with a divorce or anything like that. So when I have them and we're out, like we're out and we're doing our thing, and I don't take pictures and videos of much of anything when we're out and doing stuff. And I do wish I had more photos and stuff and like, because we have like our things that we do
Starting point is 00:47:19 and we've kind of like gone into routines now, which I like, we have our like special spots in Austin and we have our things they look forward to that we're gonna do on their weekends there with me. But yeah, I don't really have a lot, but I know that most parents love to take a ton of pictures and there's nothing wrong with that either and they share that.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But I'm also very like, I'm fine talking about it on podcasts like that, but as far as my experience and my kids, I'm very private with them. I don't share them with the world very much. And so maybe that's partly subconsciously why I do that as well. Yeah, I feel like if I have kids, I would take quite a lot of video, just because I think it's cool to, especially now with just a phone looks pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 They're going to have such clear video of them when they're older. I have a lot. I have a lot of younger. For some reason, I have a post anyway though. Yeah, this must be something that may have developed me later on because I have a lot of a younger. For some reason, I have a post anyway though. Yeah, this must be something that may have developed me later on because I have a ton of video footage of my eldest when she was super young and I do love looking back at like her tiny little mushy form and comparing it to this like nine year old like actual person.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But yeah, I don't really have a lot. I recorded more video footage of my kids in the first month of their life than exists of me and my entire childhood. It was different, weren't it? It doesn't take much. No, and it's gonna be cool for them to see it. I think it's also more readily accessible now
Starting point is 00:48:35 than it was when we were young. Oh yeah. Like try to find a picture of me as a kid. I mean, yet someone had to take a photo, develop it. And they also had to take like, save it. 40 to get the right one that wasn't blurry. Like all the pictures of me as a kid are garbage. We went to Disney World when I was four. And they're like 12 photos from the whole trip.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And they all suck. Like you can't say they're all dark. You can't see me in them. And I'm such an old piece of shit now that all my like baby photos are turned, have turned red. We're like all the, Getting that cool Instagram vintage filter. The answer thing is that the stuff has to last. Like something that's happening now with VHS and will happen over the next 20 or so years
Starting point is 00:49:12 is that the, what's on them? Like, Ion Oxide or something, the red shit that magnetizes. It's just coming off. Yeah. It's just falling off. All VHS's even around the world. Just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah, just because of age. And it's like, we use it. It's even worse. Yeah, digitize this shit now, because if you expect that to play in 30 years, not that you'll have anything to play it on, but it probably won't. There's a, I've always thought it was,
Starting point is 00:49:34 it was really fascinating. There's a scene in, you were watching Cowboy Bebop, the anime. No. There's a scene in Cowboy Bebop. I've watched three episodes. There's a, they go to do this mission and whatever, and they have to go talk to this, this collector,
Starting point is 00:49:46 this guy who runs a like a vintage media shop, and the guy, they bring him a VHS tape, and the guys, in the show, the guy's a maze. He's like, can you believe this still works, this still exists, in the late 20th century, they would have magnetized strips and put video and audio on there, and here we are, you know, with this device
Starting point is 00:50:06 and we still can watch it. You know, he's like, it's so rare and he's so... But that one actually able to work, right? It might. But maybe that's why in the show, he was so amazed to find a working one. And, you know, that show came out in the late 90s. So it's like already seeing that far ahead
Starting point is 00:50:21 and knowing this isn't gonna be around forever. Yeah, it's weird that stuff that you think is solid has a lifespan. I guess everything has a lifespan. But like a DVD would last a lot longer than VHS, so it's nothing. I mean, a VHS gets drug out of the cassette in the VCR. Yeah, I think a DVD might also have a shelf life eventually. Yeah, but it does. Yeah, but even if you're talking about like
Starting point is 00:50:46 storing a digital video format, then you run into the problem of like in 20 years will there be a codec that can play this? Or will this be so ancient that you have to find something old? Yeah, I have a big gap in, especially using, well I used to use I photo, like photos now, but the AVI support went.
Starting point is 00:51:04 It's like a big, there's like all of my old videos work and there's like a gap where I had some sort of Sony phone where it just took AVI and then like an LG phone that I just can't play. You can't put it through VLC or something. You have to get VLC and it's like if I double click in photos it just goes, don't know to find the original file and the file is like, I'm not going to play this file. Some having issues with like the high efficiency image format. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It needs to be more widely supported. I fucking hate it. It's just the fucking worst. Like, like snap it. I don't know how that is. It's like option on the phone now, on iPhones, where instead of using JPEGs, it'll take H.E.I.C photos. Oh, and so like, I mean, they're like one and a half megs
Starting point is 00:51:44 instead of 10, right? So like if you ever want to make a photo album, like a book and print them, upload them straight to any service, it's not supported. Like Google kind of supports it and Apple of course natively supports it. But that's it. I've never even heard of the format. Yeah, I had to upload a photo the other day to, after I have for some it. I've never even heard of it before, Matt.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Yeah, I had to upload a photo the other day, to, after I have for some service, so I took a photo of my camera, went to upload it, and it's like, not supported. It was like, fuck, so I had to open the photo on my laptop, exported it to JPEG, and then upload that. And then what happens then is it like strips out the X of data. I haven't ever successfully carried any of that over,
Starting point is 00:52:22 like it overrides the date taken, I think. Yeah, it's just this like in between phase where like even when they rolled out the video version, like the high efficiency video code echo ever, it was working on the phones because they that was what was taking that video. But if you tried to put it into final cut, it was like, It took them a long time to get the support from it. This is an unsupported video format. It's like, this is an Apple format, not supported by Apple. It worked in iMovie though.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It was just a nightmare for us because we do so much between the games on our phones and I immediately switched to high efficiency video codec but none of the edits is because you say, for age. That's terrible. It was anus. Yeah, well you say it's an in between time.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Maybe if HEIC and HEVC take off and become more than it's probably so important. So that's what I'm terrified of is that I'm now going to have all of these photos. Like, you know, they're on Google photos. They're backed up. But if I ever want to do anything with them, am I going to have to download and convert them to JPEG? That's just, oh, it's so many photos now. This episode of Received Podcast is also brought to you by Harrys. Humans have been shaving for over 5,000 years. Who knew? From Flint tools to Shark Teeth to the first copper razor,
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Starting point is 00:54:48 They went through a phase of like, each new operating system would be bigger, right? And then they went when it's so, it's like, hey, this new operating system will save you space. It's like, yeah, you took out a bunch of shit that I need. Yeah. What do you do with Tellnet? I tell that into Phantom cameras if there's like a-
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's like a command line option to remotely connect to a server. Okay. So in his case he uses it too. The amount of times where I've needed to change an option on a camera, but no one around me had the Phantom software or anything like that. I could just eithen it into the camera
Starting point is 00:55:17 and just do Telnet. Come on. Okay. Because I, for some reason, remember that I needed to remember those when I used to work. And now I can't do that on a map. You have to, you can install like the developer kit to get it. You can have telnet. I think it does have telnet.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'll have to look, but they also removed, they also broke I used W get. It's like a way to command line to grab a website. Oh, okay. Now if you like want to download a website that we can go through and inspect the HTML or whatever or do something to it. So W or remotely grab a file off of a server. W gets gone. It's a fucking thing. The thing is it makes total sense.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Like how many people, how many people watching this podcast have ever used TellNet? Right. It's been a solid probably 15 years since I've used TellNet. You can tell me that the call center all the time. You were telling it in a mail service to test if it was working. Yeah, it makes sense that it's all dropping off. Just real inconvenient for the old grandpa is still using it. When I was younger in the late 90s, you know, when the internet was kind of taking off, I thought as time went on,
Starting point is 00:56:21 that everyone would become an expert in using computers. That it was just a matter of time and everyone would understand how, like, they would be so pervasive that everyone would become an expert in using computers. That it was just a matter of time, and everyone would understand how, like they would be so pervasive that everyone would understand how a computer worked. And in my mind, like, tech support will become unnecessary because it would just be able to do it themselves. But we've gone, I was, I've never been more wrong. We've gone the exact opposite way where it's like technology has now become a black box. Or it's like, no one has to understand how it works. It's just like you click on some stuff
Starting point is 00:56:46 and some magic happens and then you end up with the result that you want. I totally agree, because I was the young kid growing up who was the computer nerd and adopted computers as a hobby early on. So then you know became that young kid that people ask for help with like text for that guy thing. And I was always like, I cannot wait till all y'all die off.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And it's just a bunch of me's walking around who have been growing a grub with this thing and understanding like that. But it's not that, it's not. I was just saying with cameras, like portrait mode on an iPhone is bloody easy to do. But like you're saying about all the old pictures of you guys, the kid, they're all partially in focus and like expose the wrong way because to get a picture with depth on film, that would take some sort of photographic knowledge. Yeah, also that the cameras they were using back then didn't really have any control. And plus film was so vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah, once you had a good camera, the film didn't really have any control. Plus film was so vulnerable. Yeah. Once you had a good camera, it just the film didn't guarantee anything. So, I mean, it's just we've entered the nostalgia portion of the podcast. Tell that. I've read this really interesting article the other day. And it really got me thinking, you know, it was an article about what was the first presidential campaign website.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And I guess during the, it was a Bill Clinton Bob Dole debate in mid 96, at the very end of the debate, Bob Dole encourages people to go to dolecamp96.org, which is the first time a website's ever mentioned in a presidential debate. Like in Bob Dole of all people. And the website is still up. Yeah. With that URLle of all people. And the website is still up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 With that URL, not your site URL. Is it dolecamp96.org? Is it as it was designed at the time? I got to see. What is the oldest pristine original website? Space gem. That. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:40 You can see the size of the screens that you used to display that from how narrow it is. Tell me it has a guess book that I can sign up for. Oh, looks like it would have. It's like so small. Is that using the scroll text HTML? It's got an animated GIF. Yeah, it's got an animated GIF.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah, they step supporting scroll. Yeah, I'm telling you. Today's headlines is November 5, 1996. It must be the last time it was updated. Oh, wow. What a time capsule. But I guess apparently there's some, I don't want to say controversy. Today's headlines is November 5th, 1996. It must be the last time it was updated. Oh, wow. What a time capsule. But I guess apparently there's some,
Starting point is 00:59:08 I don't want to say controversy, but there's some ambiguity as to whether or not this is actually the first presidential website. So it's the oldest one available still, but apparently Bill Clinton also had one that he launched around the same time. But Bill Clinton was also using like listservs and chat rooms and other forms of the internet
Starting point is 00:59:26 to try to communicate with voters. But it's weird how it's, how long ago was that been now 23 years? I was always impressed when websites just wouldn't ever change. There's a website used to use for cheat codes called Game Winners.com. Yeah, remember that. And it was the same. Like, I've probably used it for a decade. It never changed. It's still the same like beige and blue text. Look like shit. What about game facts? Game facts has been that same way for a long time.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I appreciate how game facts has maintained its like minimalist style and how it does stuff. It looks a little updated, but it's essentially the same. But when you look up like a fact, it's like they would always do like that. Text document. Text document. That's great.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's what I want. What happened to cheat codes? I feel like people, the games don't really have. Micro transactions. That's what happened to cheat codes. You pay for your cheat codes. Right. You could put a cheat code into Unlock something
Starting point is 01:00:17 or you can pay 99 cents to do it. I just can't tell whether it's because I don't have any interest in cheating anymore or because like I was young and I had a low attention span, like I'd play the Sims and I'd be like, I can't have any interest in cheating anymore or because I was young and I had a low attention span. I'd play the Sims and I'd be like, I can't afford anything. Shing! I have knocking million bucks.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'll tell you the last time I did that was on Minecraft. I just like spawn all the iron and shit that I need. We did that to create. But Minecraft has creative mode now. No, it was also playing on our own server. Or we turn it on. Oh, no. Last time I used Chico's work... I guess Sims still has we turned it on. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Last time I used Chico, it was work. I guess Sim's still has Chico, it's dope. Sim's definitely has to. Yeah, but if I played the Sim's now, I wouldn't wanna cheat. I'm trying to figure out if it was me as a kid who just couldn't be bothered. I forgot, you could, it wasn't Chico's, what was it called when you downloaded a program? Bywriting? No, no, but like crack. There was it like? What was it called when you downloaded a program? By reading?
Starting point is 01:01:05 No, but like there was like a crack like that, but not even crack It was like it was like something that ran the background of the game that would you know modify the game as you played it I can't remember the name the word I'm looking for but I have a Like an action replay kind of like that, but it was for Dark Souls 2 I figured you could do with Dark Souls 2 on PC There's like a thing that could give you like unlimited souls if you wanted. Those last time I cheated just because I was getting so fresh out of the Dark Souls 2. I was like, I just want to get through this game. So it's like, give me souls. I didn't even finish the game.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Give me souls! Nowadays you could just, a lot of games allow you to change difficulty on the spot, which I think has gotten rid of a ton of use for cheat codes. But a lot of cheese were really fun. It'd be like, hey, you can have infinite ammo on a gun that you just post have like two shots with. Like what? Like a rocket launcher, you just like.
Starting point is 01:01:56 God of War literally has a mode that they that description of the difficulties and they have the one that's like, I just wanna watch a story. And so like, it's like, they recognize that you wanna turn the difficulty down so low that enemies die so easily, just cause you just wanna walk through the game
Starting point is 01:02:11 and experience the game like a movie. I can see why people would wanna do that. I just get achievements in those departments. I don't know, I don't really find it. Can a fungus get that achievement? There is, you can, but then sometimes what they'll do is the layering other achievements like you have to beat it on this difficulty or higher or things like that.
Starting point is 01:02:28 That game scales insanely where I played it on like the middle ground setting when I finished God of War, but we did a couple streams with Chad and Chad is a gamer boy and he wanted to play it on a hard difficulty. So we threw it on hard. I don't know if you've ever played God of War in hard, but it gets like dark souls like in the difficulty of the combat, where you're literally like having to dodge and roll and get out of things, either way, and wait for an opening
Starting point is 01:02:54 and get in there and get a comment like that. It scales up insanely. Yeah, I think I played on the one down from the hottest. And then I got real stuck on that last Valkyrie. I can't imagine, because I played the Valkyries in the middle ground and I was like, this is as hard as I can make this ever and I would never, I'd never be able to beat these characters ever.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, it was a real good challenge. I remember the name of, what's the place where all the fog that kills you? Oh, yeah, I know he's talking about, like Niffleheim or something. Niffleheim. Yeah, that, trying to like get all through there and then fight the Valkyrie once you're in there. That was, that was tough.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And most Pohheim with the, the waves of enemies, they were like real challenge, but I did him. And then when I got to the final Valkyrie, I was, I'd never be it. I should never do it. So I'm going to change the subject. I was trying to find some earrings to wear this morning. They never found, but I found these. And so I brought them and these are earrings that my
Starting point is 01:03:47 Second cousin made me like I don't know 15 years ago And they're first red vests blue red versus blue earrings. Oh, they are red versus blue. Isn't that cute? She's like an old lady and she made me this I was talking with Our Gucci twitch chat yesterday while I was playing some more Warcraft and we got on the topic of like what people got people into Rooster Teeth because that like story has changed a lot over time and like a lot of people were throwing out red versus blue And that was obviously like a orgy story for a ton of people me. That was how I got I mean
Starting point is 01:04:20 We were just talking who I blew someone's mind when I said, like, you were not hired to be a chief manager. You were hired because of your work and work. And we were just, way before a chief manager. Yeah, and that, oh, we were talking about it. Oh, it was someone recently has, has, is shifting work. I don't want to give out any information that it's not publicly yet,
Starting point is 01:04:41 but someone's changing work because they did the thing where like, they hung out enough at, in one department and have like not publicly yet, but someone's changing work because they did the thing where like, they hung out enough at in one department and have like made themselves like useful in one department enough or were just they're just being adopted into that department. Similar to how you just were like, when you got hired,
Starting point is 01:04:55 you were put in the corner out in the, what do we call that area? The dungeon. The dungeon. And you went, no, and you walked over to the cheermer office and sat down there, and you walked over to the cheermer office and sat down there, and then you just kind of were absorbed into a cheermer.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah, I was mainly back when I first died. I was on the podcast, because Bernie wanted me to be on that. So you take it out when you became an official employee? Yeah, I would help out on... So this is an error-hoblinator. Yeah, but what it meant was that I just had too much downtime. And when I wasn't making slumber guys, I was in the dungeon, and I just wasn't really doing anything.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yeah. I don't remember you sitting in the dungeon. It was only for, it was probably for less than two weeks, but in the end, I waited for Mike, the intern Mike who was in a cheetah hunter. He went back to Canada and I was like, all right, I'm taking this desk. I'm just gonna sit in here.
Starting point is 01:05:41 The first, one of the first things I did in there was, I went in and I was like, was anyone need anything editing and Michael just recorded a rage quit? Yeah. So I was like, I'll cut that together if you want. And he was like, sweet, I hate doing that.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah. And I just made a rage quit. And then I made it MLB, let's play with Jeff. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm still one of the funny slots plays ever. Yeah. And then we're just like, I should probably just sit in here all the time, not in the dungeon. But that was like, it's telling one of the funniest lets plays ever. Yeah, and then we're just like, I should probably just sit in here all the time, not in the dungeon. But that was like telling that to someone
Starting point is 01:06:08 that you were RVBs, what you originally worked with us on, on a contract basis, essentially. Yeah, it was never high to be an achievement hunter. Yeah, that was that blue their mind. But yeah, we were talking to Chad about like what got people and we were so funny, you mentioned rage quit. Rage quit was like for a huge section of Rootseeth was the reason where people found us because it was like one of those breakout hit shows.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah, you have the all stood alone. Yeah, there was no buy-in. You just watched this screaming boy. Man screams at the movies. Yeah, I'm gonna say this is the headline screaming boy. I assume it's very polarizing. It was like, this guy is loud and awful. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:06:44 This guy is great. I want to see him. I want to see the other things this guy is very polarized, he was like, this guy is loud and awful, I'm out, or this guy is great, I wanna see him, I wanna see the other things this guy is in. And that's how we pulled in a lot of achievement, honey. Yeah, that's how we pulled it. I was nothing to do with that. So Michael pulled it. Good job, Gavin, good job, you did it. Which Ridgequit was it that you edited, do you remember?
Starting point is 01:06:58 I wanna say it was a Rainbow Six Vegas one. I think he had his face. I think a lot of the, I think a lot of the Ridgequit was him trying to put his face on the couch, I think he had his face. I think a lot of the, I think a lot of the rage quit was him trying to put his face on the character I think. Oh, he's trying to use that game feature of the face mapping that it had in right Vegas. I think it was just mainly him trying to take his own picture. So the same one that you guys later on made, let's place it on and put your face into it.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah, a bit of full circle. When did that come up? Sound like we look held that rage critters? I'm looking up This is our great internet I would also cut things that other people made didn't want to add it so I would cut Game night because that was just Caleb making footage or Jeff capturing it, but didn't want to add to it and seven years ago
Starting point is 01:07:45 February 2012 Yeah, that was the month I moved do you enjoy editing? Yeah, I still edit all my own slumber guys and you do that because you want to edit your slumber guys There it is I've tried That was my entrance he's so quivery Who is that I want to know who's behind him. That's Jack. Is that Jack? Yeah. Oh, I'm trying. He said I'm very bad.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I hit the camera myriad the room, I think. Yeah. He's in the corner. Yeah, so I mean, I had done stuff with a treatment hunter before that. I would do guides with Jeff like years before, like in the Congress office. But that wasn't, I guess that wasn't what I was brought over for. Like different phase in the Achima. So you did a lot of, everything for Achima, that was what you were doing a lot of.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah, when Achima and her started, I would also do a bunch of like data entry on the website because they're used to list all the games. I still have those files where I was like downloading the game. I forgot about that. Yeah, and you got to, I did like 200 of those. There's so much work. Do you know the last Minecraft one you had it in?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Because that was you. King Gavin. What a way to go out. Yeah, then we, yeah, just go to the point where the people on camera didn't have enough time to edit anymore. Yeah, and you're, the system that's happening to you right now is exactly what it needs to be in order to create a pipeline that can output when it needs to output. Yeah, it gives us a lot more energy to be in content.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It's a lot more expensive, I assume, to have a whole room full of other people. You can't stop together when we used to do it ourselves. It's got to produce a lot more videos to make up for it. Yeah. Make up in volume. We have a few editors that help us do stuff, not help us, they do stuff for us in the core area. And one of them, one of the guys, Neil, who was in a cheaper hunter as far as editor originally, he, he edits the majority
Starting point is 01:09:42 of our shorts and that kind of thing. And he went on vacation. So that meant that a lot of the editing responsibilities were kind of spread out to, like if you wrote or directed this thing, you might be editing as well, which because that most people over in the court have that shared skill,
Starting point is 01:09:57 like a lot of us have editing background. And so yeah, a lot of people over there are like, it's almost like if like your support group went on vacation and like Michael was editing Ragequit and Jack was, Ryan, Ryan doesn't edit GTA anymore. He used to be. No, I believe that for over 100, absolutely. Yeah, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I think editing is important. It makes you a better, we're kind of not the case with video games because they just hit record. But when you're shooting stuff, it makes you a better shooter and then just a more considerate Like you don't feel it makes you more aware of what you need to capture. Yeah I don't know what it doesn't work. Yeah, you can tell the people in a shaman hunter who never edited because they they'll just hit record
Starting point is 01:10:35 Be like ah, you know, well they'll figure it out and post it. No All right, you haven't clapsick through that because they weren't That's so funny. You see that though because I talk about Chris editing some stuff right now. And he described, maybe like, yes, there a couple days ago, about like, editing is a way that if you're editing your project or something you shot, it shows you what you didn't do right. And also shows like, it's like, I'm not funny.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Like, I wasn't funny that day. That was not good. When we first started doing risky stuff, like I helped do a lot of the machine animation in Red versus Blue, but it wasn't, it was always Bernie who did the capture and the edit in the early days. And I remember, like one of the first times I had to do some
Starting point is 01:11:20 of that work on my own, I was working on a commercial for a video game. And I went out and we were using outside editors at the time. We had to go on my own. I was working on a commercial for a video game. And I went out and we were using outside editors at the time. We had to go to a location and I was working at their facility. So I was capturing and they had their own editor. So I was capturing stuff that I thought was great.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And then like at the end of the first day of capturing the editor, came up to me and was like, listen. You need to capture less. You need to capture what it is supposed to be looking for. I was like, oh shit, he's right. Yeah, I was just taking long takes and not sure what was going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's like it can be a lot more focused about this. Yeah, just running a camera. No, just to be like, oh, I've got, you know, I'm covering my bases. It's like you're killing the edits of that. You're just chewing up time. So you've got to watch all of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 That was a, we had to have a discussion about that recently when we shot the heist. The shooting the heist, we had to have a discussion about that recently when we shot the heist, the shooting the heist. We had so many things going on. We had a lot of people filming perspectives, but in the end, I mean, it made for a very good video to be able to cut from Ellie to me, interesting, but like needed. I imagine reconciling that timeline. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Seeing the same moments from multiple videos even, like when the cart goes away and then we're all running into the thing in our video. Yeah, it's great. But like editing it, Ellie was just like, there's just so much. There's just so much. Because, I mean, you gotta think about it,
Starting point is 01:12:39 I don't think that video was made with any company equipment. It was all of our personal phones. But everyone has different settings. Everyone has different phones. So there's like some people may be 30 frames in HD or 60 in 4K or 60 in HD and 30 in 4K. It's like, yeah, none of that stuff is good on the time.
Starting point is 01:12:56 We had a, we had a, that was brought up in a meeting recently where it was like, if we're gonna do RT life like that in the future, if you're gonna do it, like if you can think about it, grab, we have these, we have a couple of sonies that are over in court that was like, grab those and shoot with those, just do that.
Starting point is 01:13:09 They're there, grab those, and then you can get two perspectives with those two cameras, and I don't have to have like an Android camera and iPhone and a GoPro and that kind of thing. Yeah. Because in the edit, it comes down and becomes sucky. I was filming something recently with people who don't normally film things. And the first day, we start working,
Starting point is 01:13:28 and then I just sit everyone aside. I was like, okay, have we synchronized on a file format? Are we all doing the same thing here? Like, we, they were like, oh, we didn't think about that. I was like, let's standardize all of that. And let's make sure we're all doing this format, this frame rate. Otherwise, this is gonna be a fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Yeah. And it's hard because, well, I shoot everything always at the height because usually an Apple phone won't buy default shoot in 4K at 60 frames because no one really needs that. And it'll take a couple of things. But I've always, every time I get a new phone, I'm like, all right, max-rays, max frame rate.
Starting point is 01:14:01 But you can't really ask everyone to do that across their phones because everyone has a different phone. They might have the smaller version with hardly any storage where you have to shoot on this and then suddenly their phone is full, but it's not. Or their camera. Can't do a 4K. Yeah. That's the other thing we just talked about when we were doing our, we were talking in that meeting about our T-Life. It's like, what's a standardized resolution frame rate that
Starting point is 01:14:22 we can get across most people's phones just in case, you know, Yeah, we're all filming and each phone is in different condition to you Like you can see in my footage of the heist that there's like this annoying lens flare and it's because my lens cracked I haven't got it fixed yet. I'm just gonna wait until the new phone But anything I film between now and then is just gonna have their GG from outside is gonna be like This episode receives podcasts is also brought to you by the Resteeth Store. There's something for everyone at the Resteeth Store and right now we've got all sorts
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Starting point is 01:15:22 rules are the ones you decide to make. The five boundaries and start gaming now at alienware.com. Next gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. I have a funny story about Chris that I want to sell. Can I tell a funny story about Chris? Go for it. Yeah. Okay. Now, I went to, uh, often like, uh, here at the office, we'll like be working on a project and working
Starting point is 01:15:48 hard on it. And then like you get a little bit of cabin fever. So you have to like force stuff to get out of the office and go like actually the sun and breathe oxygen. That can help reset your brain. So one of those days, Chris and I wanted to walk over to get a coffee over at Starbucks. We went over there and we like actually sat down at Starbucks and took a breather in the air condition, and like that.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And we were talking about something and we were talking about DC movies. And we got to one of those points where we were talking about something. And if you ever like, you have to have those moments where you have to read those brain fart moments where there's something so trivial
Starting point is 01:16:20 that you should know the name of, but your brain is like, no, we're not gonna to remember that right now. And you just feel so fresher and you want anybody to give you a lifeline to help you out. Chris hit that in us. We were talking about, you know, the good and the bad of the DC, University or anything, and he wanted to say the word Wonder Woman. He wanted to be a Wonder Woman.
Starting point is 01:16:42 But he couldn't. And I recognized that his brain was not Remembering that and so I said I'm not helping you you need to figure this out. Is that drinking the day before? No, we were just a me if I'm hungover. We were just at Starbucks and he just couldn't think remember the word Wonder Woman and I wrote down I wrote down the progression of things that he was Stuttering out. Oh my God, this is great. Before he could get to it. Because he was doing a thing where you're saying something
Starting point is 01:17:08 and then you just halfway through saying it. Trying to grabbing on and get it. You're kind of grabbing onto it. So he was like a Captain woman and I was like, no, wow girl. And then he went, America, no, it's not that. And then he went super woman. And I was like, no, if you're not there yet.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And he even went down and he was like, Aqua, if you're not there yet. And he even went down and he was like, Aqua, no. Oh, cool. He was good through the elements. And then he got closer, but he couldn't get and he was like invisible jet. And I was like, yes, King Cohen, sweetie. Last.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And he got to you with Amazon. And I was like, yes, yes. He still took like another minute. And he was like, what are women? He got it out. It's so annoying. Yeah. What chemically is happening then?
Starting point is 01:17:47 I don't know. I have that happen with names 20 times a day. I have an issue. The worst example of that that I ever had is once I was sitting in a high school class, he was my high school English class. And I don't know why I was thinking about this, but I'm sitting there. And I had to turn to a friend of mine who sat next to me and I turned to him and I said, I know this is a really stupid question
Starting point is 01:18:07 and I can't get it out of my head. But what was Hitler's last name? Yeah. I'm a friend looked at me and he was like, are you serious? I'm like, I just can't think of it right now. It's just a bit ridiculous. I can't let Smith.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I can't let Smith. There's a thing, I don't know if I have this. I don't know if I'm totally diagnosed with my self-sufferone. There's a thing called anomiaphasia, which is the inability to remember names or to build, identify someone. And it's kind of the point with me where I will, if I don't say your name every day or so, there's a good chance that in the next day, I will forget it during that date and will not be able
Starting point is 01:18:44 to recall there's been coworkers chance that in the next day, I will forget it during that day and will not be able to recall. There's been co-workers that I work next to, and my brain goes, you know, for the next hour, you're not gonna know this person's name. And you're gonna have to deal with that. And I hate it so much.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Worst time it ever happened was on the spot, and I've told this story before, we had Paul Sheeran. And at the end of the show, often we would have guessed, I like to say thank you to the guests for being there. Five minutes before that happened, my brain went, we're gonna forget his name right now. And she too. Oh, panic for one internally,
Starting point is 01:19:17 and grass for whatever I could, found the name Paul Sheer somewhere, had no confidence, it was exactly like, had no confidence. Push it over, come in. Nope. I said, I went, you know what? We have to commit to this and just hope. And I said, Paul Sheer,
Starting point is 01:19:34 dying inside a thousand deaths. Cameras cut and I went, they just looked up, oh my God. It was that's his name, that's his name. It was great, by the way. He was so good. So, such a good guy. You should have just reversed image such to him. It was that's his name. That's his name. He was great. By the way, he was so good. So such a good guy. You should have just reversed image.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Searched him just taking a picture of me. See what good. Like an augmented reality overlay. Just the AR thing on the Google fix. The first time I ever met Trevor, I went over from the bungalow I was working. I was told, go find Trevor in Achievement Hunter. He can help you in the small walk from there to the chief in Hunter office his name became Nathan in my brain And so I walk out and I'm like, hey Nathan. I'm back at nice and he's like what the fuck? I'd never he had no idea who I was turn around. I was just like who are you talking? That's so good
Starting point is 01:20:17 I'm like he looks like a Nathan to me sure It's a Nathan I know why boy. Yeah, let's start calling him Nathan. And I still to stay still very bad about that. We have another Nathan though. Yeah. We have some Nathan. Yeah. But you, Nathan. Well, there's already a Nathan here. We have a Nathan network. There's only one Trevor. Let's not double up on names if we don't have to. Yeah. Sure. We got too many John's already. But the two Beck is here. No. There's two Gavin's. I'm the only person here who has, I think, other people that here have the same name
Starting point is 01:20:45 on this podcast right now. Oh, there's gonna get that. There's gonna get that. The thing that I just said, you know, I don't listen to you half the time. I just try to tune you. Honestly, we've come through this. It's very hard to listen to people
Starting point is 01:20:54 on the podcast while you're on it. Yeah, because you're trying to think of things. Yeah. That's something that I've recognized in doing Twitch streaming with Roostee in that the majority of the people who are over in core who are on the streams, I've recognized in doing Twitch streaming with Bruce Teeth, in that the majority of the people who are over in core who are on the streams,
Starting point is 01:21:09 they don't have a background in doing any video game content. Let's plays or anything like that. And so not that I have an extensive one, but I've done it for a while. I've personally streamed for a while. I've done some random videos with the Chumah Hunter. I'm talking about Rage Quit. That was one of the first videos that they were the Chumahunter.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And you kind of like, you don't realize that's like an actual skill, like even what you guys do with all your lets plays, the ability to play games, and also talk, make banter, tell stories, and that kind of thing is a whole coordination of the brain and your hands, everything. And if you just go suddenly into that, I always found that it wasn't actually difficult to talk and like, try and fit in. It's more difficult just to shut up and listen.
Starting point is 01:21:49 So you're not just blindly spewing random crap that you're doing in the game over the top of everyone else. And when we have new people come in, sometimes they're the loudest people in the video. It's like, back cut, like knees off, you gotta learn a collaborate. So that's what improv was really good for. I did that first round of classes with everyone.
Starting point is 01:22:07 There were a lot of exercises about, listen, shut up. Don't say a word, let them finish. And then repeat what they said back to them. I think when you're on a mic or you're in front of people, it's easy to just start like, I need to fill the space. I need to fill the time and just start going and talking or doing something. It's one of the hardest things about doing the live podcast at RTX and stuff,
Starting point is 01:22:28 is that you kind of have to keep the flow of conversation going. And most of the time you can't hear people, if someone's talking at you and they're telling a long story, it's fine. But if they just interject with a joke, chances are I'll miss it. But that linear process, too, I have to go back and watch it. What did that person say that was so funny? I'll go back and look at the process too. I'll have to go back and watch it. Like, what did I have to say that was so funny? I'll be like, oh, that was funny. And in the moment, I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:22:49 and I just have to keep going as if I've heard it on the spot the same, because we do in the same hall at RTX and it's just a giant echoey room that we're all facing out. And then all the noise is coming back to us and like reverberation. And I was like, I don't know. I would love to wear headphones on nice to be honest.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Okay, we'll do it. It's even worse for on the spot because we've taken over sometimes where people get up and they go in front of the table that we're all at and perform out that way. So I'm seeing the backs of them. I can't even watch their lips. I can't take anything.
Starting point is 01:23:19 And I'm just hearing fragments of the scenes they're doing. What I want to say is that my life is really hard and I really want to need your help. Thank you, Bill. We talked about this. I'm gonna totally just subject you. We talked about this right before the podcast started. I had an epiphany the other day.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Well, before I get to that, there's something else I want to mention. So I said I was reading the comments on the last podcast on YouTube, which just came out yesterday on YouTube. And I saw that thing about people said that Drew really fit in. But I read another comment that really got to me.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And it's made me really nervous and self-conscious. So now that you know, they didn't know it was about me, but it was about me. They said at one point during the podcast of what section it was, they said, someone's nose is whistling a lot. And it's really distracting. It's 100% me.
Starting point is 01:24:02 My nose whistles. All the time? Not all the time, but a lot. And do it right now. You need to moisturize on there. It's doing% me. My nose whistles all the time. Not all the time, but a lot. You need to moisturize on there. It's doing it right now. Okay, we can hear it. You can hear it, but in audio listeners, whoever's listening to an audio, I've probably just heard it. So now it's like, whenever someone else is talking, I make a conscious effort to get away from my mic
Starting point is 01:24:16 and to not have my nose right up on it so that you can't hear my nose whistling. Does moisturize it? Like, can you get like a nose spray or something? Yeah, like a saline mist. That's, yeah, that will help you. Okay, I gotta do that because it's terrible. Why are you just slightly, so go see them open while you're told? I think the whistles appear like in the bridge. And sometimes I'll be sitting at home
Starting point is 01:24:34 and if like it's quiet in the TV's off and like I'm sitting there and Esther's on the couch, she'll turn to me and say like, does that not annoy you? Oh, I'm like, I'm sorry, you can hear that? Oh my God, I thought it was just me. The shit you pick up on when you're living in that close of quarters with someone
Starting point is 01:24:48 for that extended period of time, like so many idiosyncrasies that I didn't know I had that Michael's like, stop, stop rubbing your tongue on your bottom retainer, stop it. I'm like, oh God. No, he sees me like, do this all the time. And I am now so painfully aware of how often I do it. I do it all the time and I can't stop.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I can't. I had an ex that it was anytime I touched any of my facial hair, anything. My brothers, that's this. Or just like playing with your mustache, like am I as well just been throwing rocks at her? Oh, it didn't work out. It didn't work out.
Starting point is 01:25:22 But the thing I was gonna say, we're before the podcast, we were talking and they never watch Good Eats, you know, the Albracadillo. Apparently they just, they started up new episodes. Like it came back and- Chicken Parmesan.
Starting point is 01:25:35 They did a chicken parmesan and they did a super food. Like they did a second episode about like- Nice, I'll watch that. Keenwa and chia seeds. And when they were talking about chia seeds, he said something I never connected the dots on. Yeah. That the seeds you put on chia pets and chia seeds and when they were talking about chia seeds He said something I never connected the dots on yeah, that the seeds you put on chia pets are chia seeds that we eat now Oh fuck right You knew the words
Starting point is 01:25:55 Like thousands of mines right now Holy shit, I knew a show me what she up at was Yeah, oh yeah, I imagine that's a weird American thing It grows the water. Right. So was that edible in that form? I don't know. Maybe it was. Because it would have been, it would have been, it would have been,
Starting point is 01:26:11 it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, it would have been, but you eat them, you add like a liquid and they get like, that's the thing. That's the thing, that's the way she eats. She eats themselves, expand and absorb water and become sticky. So like, they're all seeds. No, not like Chia seeds. Chia seeds are weird. They become gelatinous. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Your seed is always sticky. Hey, oh, yeah, I was saying that that should be a, that should be a, that should be a chia pet that was just to call combos and it becomes, it hits puberty. And I'm sure there's no, there's no way that person thinks that. I'm sure Spencer gets no way to put pressure on that.
Starting point is 01:26:45 I'm sure Spencer gifts probably sells one of those. Venus, she a cat. Let's see. Come on, I just want to rent it. Okay, where does? I don't see one. Also. Oh, although I see.
Starting point is 01:26:57 A hairy dick would be concerning. Maybe just on the balls. Yeah, it would be a bull. My dick has hair. Your dick has hair? Yeah. How far down the shaft? I mean, like, it's got these random ones
Starting point is 01:27:08 that go up higher than it really prefer. I mean, I shave. Oh, yeah, no, this, this like, especially in the undercarriage. Yeah, the underside of a penis, you can get pretty hair. Like where it meets the balls? I always forget there's just like ball.
Starting point is 01:27:20 No, it goes from the balls up the shaft. Wow. Yeah, there's hair. Not the whole way. Okay, grab a penis. My blood the balls up the shaft. Wow. Yeah, there's hair. Have you not, not the whole way? Okay, grab a penis. My blood no hair. Lift it up. He is, he is a hairless man.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Yeah. Oh, is it, wait. Down there even? Well, I mean, he has hair, but like, he's just, he doesn't have to shave. He has like, like 15 whiskers. So you've never just, up-sided a dick and had a look on anyone else It's been a long time. Well, you forget if you've forgotten penises I mean I try to forget some of them. Yeah
Starting point is 01:28:01 Okay, I'm just like I don't yeah, I'm just it's not like and like it's like I was just like a halo like the top hair The like pubes and then I feel like circumvented the dick and then went down the bottle. Yeah, I mean, I it's not like a big mound of pubic hair. No, it's more of just like, it's not like a sheep. It's not a gradual, yeah, it's like tapering off, but it's not like a hot out. But I did it so late, it was up, because I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 01:28:20 Manscaving like that. And but there was, I did a moment recently where I found a hair that was like a higher than I've ever seen before. I was like, that's a little high. Let's back off here, guys. Okay. But that's like par for the course for me
Starting point is 01:28:36 in that I think that because of my chemical treatment that I constantly have to do for myself, where I lather to stop throwing myself every single day of my life, that I've gotten hairier and hairier and hairier. Most guys actually do, there's a lot of guys who get hairier and hairier, but it's like, because I've gone from like hairtless wonder as an adult
Starting point is 01:28:54 and now like 30, coming up with 35, like I've got a lot more hair than I've had before and it's just not gonna stop, and I'm like, is it gonna stop if I stop doing my treatment? Is that what's gonna work out? Cause it's a lot. Yeah, well, it'll end. I don't know, because I used to not have
Starting point is 01:29:08 like hair on my up arms, but like I've shaved, but you can see it's growing back. Really? And like this gets, this whole arm will get shagging everything like that. Like, I would say now you're hairy than most people. I used to have like only a little like patch of hair on my chest,
Starting point is 01:29:22 but now like, I've got got good amount of chest hair. I'm not Gavin. You're fucking Chewbacca, but you're not fucking Chewbacca. Maybe that's why I've noticed the base of the penis hair. It's been good. There was a time where I was having a little trim and I was like, I guess I have to trim there.
Starting point is 01:29:43 That's interesting. Just sort of lift it up and go down the bar. It's fine. That'd be good. What about you, bottom of the penis there? Uh, yeah. Uh, you got to be careful. I don't know if it's any, I guess it's more on the bottom.
Starting point is 01:29:56 I never paid attention to like the distribution around the shaft, but I guess yeah, that makes sense. I always found it strange that from underneath, the balls look like they're like halfway down the penis. What? Wait, what do you mean from underneath? Well, just because the Gucci bulge is like behind the balls, but it is in the same shape as a penis.
Starting point is 01:30:18 What? So I need a free rendering of what he is explaining right now. I guess like look at a guy from behind on all fours. Okay, come here. Okay. Okay, so you're hanging. You have the hanging balls. But there's like an area behind the balls that is-
Starting point is 01:30:34 The guy is on all fours. And I am viewing him from this perspective and just viewing flasad penis and balls. How do I back out of the conversation? Hunters. I'm not even speaking into a microphone as I do that. This is how you back out of a conversation. I read a crazy story the other day.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Apparently there was a fake US embassy that was operating in Ghana. I don't remember for about a decade, it operated in Ghana. A decade. remember for about a decade it operated in Ghana. And decade. Yeah. And they were issuing... At that point you're not a 50 years MC, I think you become one. They were issuing visas for people to come visit the US. And they had... So the way it worked was they were operating this building. And another business in the building was like a sewing, like a
Starting point is 01:31:24 textile manufacturing. So they had sewing machines and whatnot. So when people want visas, they would bring the passports in. So they could take the passport apart and then re-sow it together using the industrial sewing machines that they had in the way that the passports actually constructed. And they would issue fake visas. They were almost indistinguishable from real visas. So when they were to give them to someone,
Starting point is 01:31:45 they would come to the US and say, it looked the same at point of entry, the person who inspected the passport, the visa thought it looked identical to the real thing and they would let them into the country. I stand by what I said, they were a real embassy of that place. Essentially it was in Acro-Gonna.
Starting point is 01:32:01 So, and the US government had no idea that it was operating. I guess and they finally realized it and shut it down. Like it's one thing to give out fake visas, but to have like a fake almost storefront. Mm hmm. What surely that were there were no Americans working there. So why how would they have thought it was a real embassy? I don't know maybe every life. Well, I've not if you don't if you've never visited an embassy and that's your only interaction.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Maybe you think that's fine only interaction, maybe you think that's fine. Every time I went to the American Embassy in London, I would always have to go through the embassy. The fake embassy did not accept walk-in visa appointments. Instead, they drove to the most remote parts of West Africa to find customers, advertising their services through flyers and billboards. They would shovel the customers to Acra, rent them in a room in a hotel nearby.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Wow, that's a little bit of investment. They come to and from the fake embassy. Yeah, it was crazy. Wow. You just made me think of a realization I had that I swear connects to what you just said. But it's like, it's on that subject of like, the designation of something being legitimate
Starting point is 01:33:04 or illegitimate and that kind of thing and it was Hang with me. It was watching the read the live action reboot of Aladdin Which I did not really like the majority of the film But there was came a point that they got near the end of the film where they were recreating a moment from the cartoon That made me see that moment of the cartoon in a different light. And it was when Jafar now has the lamp, spoilers if you haven't seen the lamp. He has the lamp and he makes his, I think his first wish, which is he wishes to be Sultan.
Starting point is 01:33:38 And in the cartoon, Jeannie does this whole thing and all this magical dust happens everywhere and the Sultanans clothing comes off and I mean like that and put it on jafar and jafar becomes sultan They do it in the movie and they do similar same thing But for some reason because it wasn't cartoonish or anything like that and you saw real people it was it made me realize How is he the sultan now Like what has clothes he he he
Starting point is 01:34:02 He puts all the soldiers go. Oh, he's the Sultan, like, but they didn't like get all magical. Like, there wasn't like a bunch of like dust or thing where they're all like hypnotized now and like you rewrite history is just he's so like, and then like five minutes later, they're like, oh, you're not the same.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Yeah, and then they, in the remake movie, the captain of the garden after being besieged by Jasmine goes, okay, yeah, he's salted. Like the original guy, I gotta follow him. It was like, so I, I would say in the remake,
Starting point is 01:34:25 thinking about it now, I never really thought about that. The Genie just did a terrible job. Yes. He just gave him an outfit. It should have been something of a- Physically became salted. Be there was no deed recorded or- Yeah, there was no passing of any sort of official business.
Starting point is 01:34:40 It was just, he's salted now. Wing Wing. Which was just layers of like how dumb that movie was but it took me out of the movie for I was like He's not sultan. They don't do anything you're cosplaying a soul. He does go from sultan to Sourcer in the cartoon. Why does he do that in the cartoon? Because he's He because he's doing power tripping the whole time, and it's like, that she won't be with him
Starting point is 01:35:07 when he's salt and so he's like, I'll be the most powerful sorcerer in the world, and then you'll be mine, that kind of thing. I believe I will. I was really hoping in the remake that N-bit would be more epic. It was not. It was like, everything in the movie
Starting point is 01:35:18 was kind of in line with the cartoon the whole way, and then the N was just glossed over. There was no like banishing a lad in out to, you know, and like the snow and all that shit. But what he was, but then there was no bit with like the genie like rolling that. I was just waiting for the big rolling pillar of the thing. That's been, that's been, and the snake.
Starting point is 01:35:34 That was like a same with like the Lion King remake where the movie made epic amount of money. But to go watch it, it's just terrible and it's like translation of the Lion King cartoon in that they like they're trying to recreate these moments and they're just failing miserably at even like just copying right. Like the, even the scene in Lion King reboot where he, you know, again, spoilers of Lion King if you haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:36:00 So 25 year old. But it's that moment where Mufasa is climbing up more of the most epic moments of like cartoon history of him climbing up that hill. Scar, you know, does that whole dramatic moment of like putting his claws on Mufasa and gets really deep in there. And Jeremy Irons gets really gutter on.
Starting point is 01:36:17 It's like long live the king. It's just great moment. It's good to hear me out. It's good to hear me out. Huh? What was it? Good Jeremy Alliance. Oh, thank you. Love that man. Good Alfred. He, you know, launches off and it becomes very dramatic and you
Starting point is 01:36:30 see and they cut to Simba's, you know, shot and he's like, nah, it's great. The remake, the guy like Leansin is says some forgettable line without any like gravitas or emotion. And then the moment ends and I was like, I wanted to stand up in the theater and just scream, come on, you just, I haven't seen the new link. It's not good. I didn't hate it. They allowed in one of those. It's cool to see everything a little big and real.
Starting point is 01:36:54 The new Lion King has made over $512 million in the US. Yeah, I think internationally it passed 1.3 billion. Yeah, internationally it's out of billion. That's a lot of money. Yeah, so it doesn't matter what you think about it. No, it doesn't. That's why I point out like, my criticism
Starting point is 01:37:08 of these movies means nothing, they are doing exactly what Disney wants, they are making boo-coo bucks and people are going to go see them. And it makes people want to watch the originals. That was the other thing about the, the, the, the, the, The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Lanking remake is that it made me realize that the Lanking cartoon was shot amazingly. And they did even like camera movements and camera tricks that like focus pulls on the
Starting point is 01:37:32 ants and then like, yeah, which were nuts. And that was also what kind of took me out of the remake is that they didn't do some of these very iconic ones. Like one of my favorite shots is in that similar scene where Simba is staring down the wildebeest coming down that like the, you know, the trench and into him. And they do that great jaws movement where it's the zoom in but pull out.
Starting point is 01:37:52 And so his perspective changes, but these are the, is that Hitchcock's in? Yeah, like a dolly soon. Was Hitchcock the one who originated that? I've always assumed that it was a job. He's like a bunch of jaws. Effect and that. Okay, it's that, and it was like,
Starting point is 01:38:01 that's a great shot. That like is so good and it really pulls you into the fear of Simba's eyes and we're like that they didn't do that in the remake and I was like you suck And that's my Ted talk about the Lion King remake. I'm sorry if you really liked it It's okay to enjoy what you like. I'm not trying to show something I can ask y'all about Disney plus you're gonna sign up for that. Have you already talked about We have talked about I think it's it's looking pretty compelling and pretty interesting And yeah, they have some it seems like they're going to have a bundle with Hulu as well.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Hulu and yes, it is the owns Hulu. Right. So I get free Hulu through Spotify. And so I'm wondering if I get this thing trickled down. Yeah, it's add supported, but it's free. I'll send you a link later. I think I'll do that three year thing they're doing. I know you can get a threeyear. They broke their website with that I know we haven't signed up yet. We've been trying it was like a hundred and forty bucks for three years of Disney plus And you know with the small children that is absolutely an investment that I can see returning There are so many Disney movies that I haven't seen because they've been walked away in the vault. Yeah Like song in the south. I tried, I don't think that one's making
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