Rotten Mango - #241: The Most Evil Woman In Wisconsin - She Wanted To Be Female Jeffrey Dahmer? (Case of Taylor Schabusiness)

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

He stomped the snow off his boots; the ice storm had no mercy on this town. It was nearly 3:30 in the morning, and the officer had somewhere important to be. He knocked on the woman’s door and followed her down into her basement. She didn’t even seem to notice the chill in the air. It seemed like she was distracted. Like she had seen something far more scarier than a relentless winter storm. Tara explained she came down into the basement and saw her son like this. She glanced down, the officer squatted and peeled back the bath towel. There, staring up at him. Was the severed head of Tara’s son sitting in a black bucket. The details of this case would lead everyone to believe a female Jeffrey Dahmer was on the loose. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in all states or situations, prices vary based on how you buy. Betabin Betaboon Welcome to this week's main episode of Rod and Mango. I'm your host Stephanie Sue. He stomped the snow off his boots, nearly 3.30 in the morning. February 22nd of 2022. This is a reason case. There was this unmistakable ice-sceness in the air. It was as if Mother Nature herself was telling everyone, stay inside. Nothing good is going to happen at an hour like this. Go inside, lock your doors, keep yourself hidden. These were the whispers hidden in the harsh

winds. Of course, the news stations didn't say that. They just said, I storm! Beware! He stomped the snow off his boots, knocked on the door. The woman who opened the door didn't even seem phased by the cold air that was now invading her home. She didn't even feel it. I mean, in fact, she didn't even seem to notice that her skin involuntarily formed these tiny little goose bumps on the surface. Her eyes were bloodshot, something indicated to him that she was dealing with something far scarier than these winter storms. She nodded her head towards the basement door. He followed her down, and just as how ice blinked at the streets, blood covered this woman's basement.

He soaked it all in. reads, blood covered this woman's basement. He soaked it all in. Of course, being a police officer in Green Bay, Wisconsin, there was always that one case, that one story that probably stuck with him, as well as all the other officers in the area. You see, Green Bay is a close drive to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In 2022, Milwaukee was under a flurry of ice and snow as well.

But that's not the only reason people stayed inside their homes late at night. Most of them would never be able to forget the terror, the havoc that Jeffrey Dahmer had wreaked on the entire town, on the entire nation. The officer hoped that this wasn't another situation like that. I'm sorry, Tara, could you please tell me again what happened? She stood there and she recounted what her night looked like. So that's when you came down here and you saw your son here.

Like this, they both glanced down and the officer squats down and Tara looks away. She had seen enough already. More than what any mother should have to see, more than what any mother should have to endure in her lifetime. He peeled back the towel and well, the decapitated head of her son, the severed head of Tara's son, was sitting in a black bucket. The officer had just opened the can of worms that

would lead everyone to believe a female Jeffrey Dahmer was on the loose. Now as always full show notes are available at rottenminglepodcast.com. This is a current case. Actually, the last trial proceeding court hearing was February 27th, so a few days before you're hearing this, the trial is going to start March 6th. It's going to be absolutely bonkers. I don't even understand how we're going to sit through a trial like this. A huge part of the research was based on the official criminal complaint that would just detail the whole arrest.

Please give that a read. It's incredibly intense. And before we get into the story, if you guys are enjoying these episodes, I have something very exciting in the works we're launching video podcasts over on YouTube and on Spotify. It's going to be in the description of this episode and as well as our pod description, but the channel name is Rotten Mango. With every mini-sode, there's going to be a video to go along with it. So this week's mini-sode, there's going to be a video up, a couple hours, maybe a little

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Tara snaps awake. Did you hear that? She squints and she's trying to listen to what the noise could have been. It kind of sounded like a door slamming shut. Maybe a door being slammed open and hitting the wall with such force. Then she hears the sound of a car speeding away. Okay, that was strange. It's like three in the morning.

It didn't sound like a neighbor's car. The door didn't sound like a neighbor's door. It sounded much closer. It sounded like it was coming from her house. Tara gets up and she tiptoes to the window. Nothing strange. Everything seems peaceful. Everybody's tucked away in their homes, bracing for this ice storm.

But you can never be too sure these days. Maybe the icy wind slammed her door open. And you also don't know what kind of evil people are out there. She's trying to be on the safe side. Tara goes downstairs to investigate, and her front door was closed. Just like she had left it. Nothing seemed out of place. It didn't seem like robbers were coming in, storming through the place looking for valuables. There were no shadowy figures lurking behind doors. She's about to head back into her room when she sees that the basement light is on. OK, that was strange.

Her son, Mr. Forgotten, to turn off the light. I mean, it's a common struggle that most moms can relate to when their kids turn on the lights, waste the power, run in up the electricity bill. Tara found it hard to be upset with her son, though. His name is Shad, and he was always kind of a Kind of a softy so she rubbed her eyes walk down the steep basement steps trying to be as careful and as light as possible Maybe Shad fell asleep with the lights on he sleeps in the basement, you know, but she felt a little bit groggy

She makes it down rubbing her eyes turns off the lights and just as turns, just as she's about to walk back up the stairs and crawl back into her warm, comfortable bed, she notices a bucket, and it was placed right at the bottom of the stairs. A black plastic bucket covered with a bath towel. And I don't know. Maybe it's the threat of the ice storm outside. Maybe this bucket was just unsettling. It was just a random bucket at the bottom of the stairs.

And that split second, Tara decided, and I don't know if this is a choice she would later regret if she could go back in time and change things, which she still have chosen to do this very action. But she bent down, removed the bath towel, and she was staring at her son's severed head. The officers drove up to the apartment complex.

This is after they had seen Shad's severed head. This is after they were already on this homicide investigation. They drive up to the suspects apartment complex. And that's the thing you learn about being an officer, is that you just never really know who's capable of what. Sure, Taylor did not have the cleanest record, but the officers never believed that she would be someone that people would soon compare to a female Jeffrey Dahmer.

She was this young mom who spent a lot of time doing beadwork, trying to make a living as a small-time artist. But now, standing in front of them was Taylor's Shabbos-ness. Okay, so her last name is Taylor Shabbas-ness. And I keep wanting to say Shabbas-ness because that's why she changed her last name to Shabbas-ness. I'm confused. What's her last name? It's spelled Shabbas-ness, but she pronounces it Shabbas-ness.

It's a whole thing. We're going to get into it. Okay, so she goes by either or? Yes. Now, Taylor is standing in front of the police who have their hands at their waist ready to draw their guns at any moment because I mean they were pretty certain they have the right person this was no ordinary suspect interrogation where they're like hey can you come in to talk about a murder? Because Taylor quite literally had blood on her hands her hands were stained with blood Imagine you had taken red paint, rub them into

your palms like you're moisturizing your hands, wash them off under a stream of water, wipe them on a paper towel, and boom, it's just completely stained. The palm of your hand is going to be red. It's going to be that tinted red. Her hands are red. Yeah, and there's dried blood specks on her sweatshirt and black pants. She had literally been caught red handed. They exchanged glances. The officers exchanged glances with each other before asking her, Taylor, do you know why we're here?

Yes, because you have a warrant out for my arrest. Okay, well, Taylor, just so you know, time's up. We found his severed head in the basement. She's slowly responded. That's pretty fucked up. So what happened, Taylor? It's okay, you can tell us.

We can help you. Just tell us what happened. Well, that's a good question, isn't it? So she's playing this weird game with the interrogators, it's just bizarre. Now, later to the same question, Taylor would turn the tables on the investigators and ask them something that she deemed was a genuine question. She said, Officer, do you know what it's like to love something so much that you have to kill it?

The officers did not understand. Now, there's two key people involved in today's case, and it's interesting to see both of their social media accounts because this is a newer case and it's ongoing. We don't have a plethora of information about these people's childhoods, about what their life was like, and what they wanted to achieve before their life was taken. All we can do is try to connect the pieces. And it's interesting to see both of their social media accounts because they never posted about each other, at least not directly. So if we didn't know what happens later, we wouldn't even know that they were friends.

There's no pictures of them posted together. There's no post that explicitly mentioned the other person, tag the other person. The only thing that they seem to have in common is their age. They were both 24 years old and they had both gone to the same high school. Now we don't know if they knew each other in high school. We don't know how friendly they were in high school, but it can be assumed that they met in high school. And even when you go through Taylor's page and then when you go through Shad's page, it seems like they were having two completely different human life experiences. Just different.

The only connection that they had was that they were friends with benefits. They hooked up now and then, it's hard to tell how deep their friendship or relationship went. It's not sure, but let's start with Shad. I know some people have mixed feelings on social media posts. How much is sharing too much? How much is too much negativity that you're putting out into the world? How much is too personal?

Clearly, I am not the one to be answering that question. I feel like people who post nonstop about their feelings, I don't think it's for attention. I don't think that they're narcissists that just can't stop talking about themselves. And I hate to sound like one of those armchair psychologists, but I think that they just need someone. Maybe they just need someone to reach out to them, to check in on how they're doing, to see if they're okay. And I feel like that was the situation was shad. Shad posted very frequently about his feelings. He posted about eight times a day

on Facebook and most of the posts were cryptic, if not sad. He wrote February 20th, 2022, so just a day or two before his murder. He posted, with nobody's help, I gladly say fuck you all for no help. Another one the same day, red. Stay away because you're gonna live a happier life than I am. Another one. You won't value a relationship until you ruin one. It seems like he was going through it, or I'm just gonna rapid fire a list of his posts

because I think this is the best insight that we have on Shad so far. Sometimes you have to stay busy so you don't have time to feel. I'm still waiting silently. I'm sorry I wasn't good enough. Believe me, I tried. The way that they leave tells you everything. I've changed a lot by pain. Today I'm asking to be changed by love instead. I wanted to feel loved without feeling like I was begging for it. I'm almost done breaking my own heart. So, posts like this led to the online speculation that maybe Shad wanted more than just a friends with benefits relationship with Taylor's business. Some of his posts were really hard to read in the sense that he just seemed so sad. He wrote, I swear the three times my little sister stood up for me was

more than most of you, and she's only 10 years old. Shad never really posted pictures about himself, but when he did, and I don't know if hindsight makes my heart ache for this guy, but it looks like he was a guy that was trying to be silly, trying to be goofy, trying to find his way in the world, but he's also battling a lot of these potentially negative feelings. It's just, he seems very torn as a person. He hasn't really found his way yet. There's this one picture of him where he's pointing a little sword at the camera. Okay, I know, in the context of a true crime podcast, it sounds super scary and creepy and

weird, but it wasn't. His chest is puffed out and he's leaning back, and the picture is just so reminiscent of the times that you're cleaning your room, and you get so distracted, you start messing around with random things that you forgot you had. That's kind of the feeling of the picture. People who knew Shad said, you know, he's a compassionate guy. He always put other people first and maybe to a fault. Like the guy just really cared.

He was outdoorsy, the guy loved camping. Oh man, he loved playing video games with his family. He was fascinated by different languages. I think at one point he was trying to learn Russian, Dutch, Japanese, and French. I don't know if it was all at the same time. He loved to play chess. Oh, he loved wood carving. So again, I don't know why it's so easy to relate to him, but he just seems like he is lost. And he just seems like he wants to do something with his life, but maybe he's having a hard time overcoming some thoughts of depression, anxiety, and it's just rough. I also think the fact that he loves wood carving, I mean, the amount of patience I imagine

would go into something like that. I think it's also really cool when people have these passions and hobbies that are so different from the rest. Now, I'm not going to sugarcoded. Shad would sometimes end up on the path of self-destruction. It's not that he was a bad person, at least that we know of. It's not that he wanted to hurt people. I think that he himself was just hurting. He would resort to self-medicating with alcohol,

sometimes with harder drugs such as meth. He had been arrested before for disorderly conduct and it seems like he's intoxicated in the mug shots. I'm gonna be honest. So again, it just feels like someone who's struggling a lot. And who knows, maybe he would have gotten his life together and found a path for him, but someone would rip his chances away.

This is all a stark contrast to the life of Taylor Shabbusiness. Her Facebook page indicated someone that was more stable, which I mean, okay, if this doesn't show you that we shouldn't believe what we see on social media, I don't know what does. But by all accounts, her social media made her seem very stable, not unhinged in any way, not even evil. She posted frequently about UFC. She loved the Green Bay Packers. When she had this little baby that she loved, she was a little bit opinionated, but not in like a controversial way. She would post things like leaving your hometown in your 20s is a life hack.

She would rant. If you're a young person, I highly suggest you create a plan and move away from your hometown. Leaving the typical norms you grew up in is going to help you develop as an individual. It's going to force you to grow up in ways that just staying home can't do. She writes in a very motivational, inspirational way. Your environment plays a huge role in how you feel and how you think, how you carry yourself, who you hang out with, what you care about, what you do. Once you switch that, you switch your whole focus. I can't stress this enough. Get out of your

hometown. There's more to life than the same 10 people and the same two bars. So she's not from the current state. I'm assuming. So her Facebook says that she's from California, but she's not from California. She's from Wisconsin, but at one point she lived in Texas. And this is taking place in Wisconsin. But her Facebook profile said that she was located in California, which is untrue. Okay. Now, I don't know if she had lived in California prior to this, because she did travel around a lot. Okay. So she just said traveling around bouncing from town to town really helped develop her as a person. We see through Facebook she has a young son. The father's not physically present in the picture because he's um he's in prison. The father's name is Warren

Shebusiness. Now I tried to look into it and I was wondering okay maybe Warren Shebusiness that's his name she gets married to Warren and changes her maiden name. No. There's the same last name. No, she changed her name to Shabbusiness and Warren Shabbusiness, I don't think that's his real last name, because I tried to look him up in the prison system in Wisconsin and I can't find to his inmate number or anything.

So I think that his Facebook profile, he just took on the last name of Shabbusiness. But I believe his legal last name is something else. Oh, okay. So he kind of took her last name. Yes. Okay. Because you know, her last name is cooler, like Shubbizness. I don't know why she changed it to that. We're going to get into a little bit of that name change. Now Taylor posted a picture of a baby that this is not her baby had his arms pinned down with dumbbells, presumably so the parents could change the

baby's diapers. The post was supposed to be this funny he-he-ha-ha parenting moment, but some uncommented, that age like a gallon of milk on a hot day. So under all of this, under all these cute little posts of like he-he parenting moments, under this facade of a happy, healthy young woman trying to raise her child in the absence of their father, Taylor had her own dark past. She had a lot of demons that she was fighting. She had a pretty lengthy criminal history.

There were six case records against her in the state of Wisconsin. In August of 2020, Taylor was arrested and charged with fleeing and obstructing a police officer. She's allowed on bond, but she had to make a few promises to get out. She had to be completely sober. She wasn't allowed to drive, and she had to wear this pharma patch. We have her to a pharma patch. It's like this interesting little sticker. Okay, it's not that little. Maybe it's the size of a credit card. It's patched onto your arm, and it tests your sweat for drug use. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know. I've seen some YouTube videos. Oh okay so in all

these past relationships you know Taylor is the type to constantly break promises but her partners would forgive her. Her parents would forgive her. She just had this charm to her. The government was not so easily pleased. She kept violating the terms of her bond and the judge had to constantly put out warrants for her arrest until finally she was found guilty of battery and threatening of a judge and or police officer. She did not learn her lesson, she did the same thing again, she was found with drug paraphernalia in her car and decided I'm gonna try to outrun the cops. I think I could be speedier than them.

She was arrested once more January of 2020 and she's technically on probation when this be heading took place. In fact, some sources alleged that she cut off her ankle bracelet because she's supposed to be on house arrest, cut it off two days before the murder, which begs the question, was she planning on doing something that she wasn't supposed to do? Now Taylor was born Taylor Coronado. Okay, we're getting into the name change now. And I'm not particularly sure why she decided to change her name. It's not their marriage, like I said, there wasn't an ex-husband that I could find that his name was Shabbat business. I wonder if a life event took place or did she just wake up one day and decide

that her last name was no longer something she wanted? It's not the shortest, easiest process in the world to change her last name. So it's intriguing. She legally changes her name to Taylor Schabesness in 2017. And this is pure coincidence, but I'm gonna throw it out there. Taylor Coronado was living in Houston, Texas in 2017. And there was a woman named Denise Coronado.

They're unrelated. This is in Houston. Denise Coronado was 19 years old and she's a criminal. She had spotted this 14 year old girl walking down the street and Denise, this 19 year old, kidnaps her, holds this 14 year old girl captive in the woods for five days where she tortures the poor girl into submission. I mean, she would light out cigarettes on her body, she would threaten her and for two weeks. Denise would drag this girl

to the CD motels, and force her to be raped by 26 different men who paid Denise for the girl's services. 26 different men raped this 14-year-old girl before she managed to escape. Okay, now you're talking about a total different case. Yes, this is why some people speculate she changed her name out of nowhere. And allegedly, Denise was there during all of the assaults watching, making sure that this 14 year old girl did not try to run away. And it's kind of crazy to think that Denise was a 19 year old who was doing this. Now coincidentally, Denise Coronado lived in Houston, Texas.

She was 19 and Taylor Coronado lived in Houston, Texas and she was 19 at the time. And this case blew up. And I don't know. I personally don't think that they look similar, but maybe that's why she changed her name. People are just kind of trying to find a life event. So this is the speculation. This is a very vague, coincidental speculation. Or maybe it was like two birds one stone. She had always wanted to change her last name, but maybe she got thrown off by the lengthy legal process. Do you think it has anything to do with some time? What if she thinks changing the name will disassociate her record somehow in the past? Yeah, it could be that.

She could be moving out of Texas. She could be trying to move to a different state. I mean, the criminal justice system still will connect the dots. And you know, when you do background checks, it'll'll still connect the dots but maybe it's easier on Google maybe yeah maybe because you don't get her mug shot immediately because you know when you can Google people's names and their mug shot pops up maybe it could be Denise I have no idea but just very interesting whether you're doing intense to your favorite artist in the office parking lot

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And this is the guy that she has a kid with. And like I said, their marriage is strange. Apparently he's in prison for an unrelated charge. And he's also totally okay with the fact that she's having intimate relations outside of their marriage while he's in prison. He even knows about Shad. He knows that their friends with benefits, that they're hooking up. And it was weird because at the same time,

Taylor would flood her Facebook page with quotes about staying loyal to your man forever, waiting for the right one forever, even when times get tough. It's interesting because from Shad's Facebook posts, it seems like a lot of these are his inner voice. Yeah. But for Taylor's, it doesn't sound like that's her real voice.

Yeah, it feels, I think that's the craziness of this case. Shad's Facebook, when you look at it, it feels vulnerable and it feels so authentic. And meanwhile Taylor, it's like, you would never know what she's thinking just by looking at her Facebook. Because if you look at this Facebook page, you should think it's just another normal girl.

Okay, her husband's in prison, but that didn't, that it's pretty normal. Now, there is a lot to unpack on Taylor's Facebook, but one repost that's going to stand out to a lot of people is that she shared statistics and like this whole quote about female on male domestic violence, saying that it's a double standard, saying that women can hurt men too and we need to protect male victims as well. This was just three months before she beheaded her boyfriend. What? Now let's piece together the story.

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in most knife sets. Let's be real. We all practically buy pre-cut bread, right? Serrated edges. They make it easy for you to cut through the bread's hard, crunchy, crispy exterior without harming the soft interior. This is the exact same reason Hunter's gravitate towards serrated blades. Its rigid edges help cut through tough tissue.

The blade will grab the tissue it comes in contact with and shred it from the surrounding tissue separating the two. For those reasons, it's often considered easier to cut through living bones and cartilage with a serrated blade Essentially a heavy-duty bread knife and it's terrifying to think just how many hidden weapons of destruction that we have in our own homes The basement in Tara's home was kind of Shad's layer, if you will. It's where he hung out It's where he posted those cryptic Facebook posts. It's where he tried to build a life for himself The basement used to be completely unfinished just just wooden beams, concrete floors, exposed

walls and ceilings, but as time went on, they started converting the place, bit by bit. There was a shower installed, a bathroom, they remodeled some areas with a mattress on the ground, as well as this entertainment area of sorts. Listen, it's not a luxurious five-star resort, but it's what Shad called home. And soon the place would be covered in blood. Blood would smear all over the concrete floors, under the mattress that was left on the floor. Down the shower drain, I mean, the whole thing could be seen through a filter of red. It was in that very basement that Tara's life felt like it was coming down on her, pressing

her into the ground until she felt like she was going to suffocate. She felt like she was going to faint. She had seen something that no mother could have ever been prepared for. I mean, when you have a kid, no one tells you one day they might die before you. One day you might see your child's severed head in a bucket. Alongside the bucket were two knives, a cocktail of bodily fluids, a hacked off severed male organ, presumably shats penis, was also left in the black bucket alongside his head. Somehow, Tara managed to pick up the phone in dial 911.

Please, you need to hurry. She's screaming into the phone. When the police rushed to the scene, they see the entire place, not just the bucket and knives at the bottom of the stairs. The entire basement was a bloody crime scene. It looked like someone had attempted to clean it up, but they weren't that thorough, they weren't that competent. In fact, there was a lot of smeared blood as if someone had tried wiping it away, but couldn't get the job done. The floor, the walls, the mattress, the shower, I mean blood was quite literally everywhere. Other key pieces of evidence found at the crime scene were a glass pipe, a baggy, containing some sort of light-colored powder material. We don't know for sure what this powder

material is, but I mean we have reason to believe that it's meth, and you'll soon see why. The police had to ask Tara to recount the worst moments of her life over and over again, and they needed all of the details. They needed to make sure that they had the right person, they had a strong case. So Tara, with strength and bravery that I can't even fathom, she managed to tell the story again to the police. Last time I saw Shad was Monday, February 21st. It was maybe 9.30 at night. Shad's girlfriend or, well, friend, I don't know.

Her name is Taylor. Taylor came to pick up Shad so that they could hang out. They left the house and I personally didn't see them coming back home that night, but my boyfriend who was sleeping over, he had seen them come home. Now all day Tuesday the next day, Tara said that she did not interact with either of them all day. She wanted to give them their space. So Tara left the house, spend the day with her boyfriend outside, and when she got home Tuesday night, she saw that there was a minivan parked outside the house. Not on the driveway, but on the street in front of the house.

So Tara just assumed that was Taylor's car. She's sleeping over, she's hanging out. And since we're talking about full grown adults, 24-year-olds, Tara probably didn't want to be the one of those moms that popped her head in the basement. Honey, is that you? Are you there? What are you doing? She wanted to give them space. She wanted to give her son privacy.

She didn't go downstairs. She didn't make it known that she was home. I mean, she wasn't hiding. She wasn't tiptoeing around, but she was just giving them privacy. Tara said that she did hear Taylor talking at one point. So it confirmed Taylor was home with her son, Chad. Tara falls asleep, wakes up around 3am to the

sound of the front door being slammed shut in a vehicle just scurrying away. That's when she went downstairs and found the bucket. The fact that Tara was able to keep her composure long enough to give the police this detailed recollection of events is beyond me. She was even able to provide an in-depth description of Taylor's Shaba Business, the girlfriend, which would serve to be pivotal in this case. The police start moving fast. I mean, it was easy to find Taylor. It's not like she was on the run. She was at her home address, practically waiting to get arrested. When Taylor's Shea Business was initially brought in, there was blood all over her,

like I said. Her hands were tinted and blood. She had cuts and scratches on her arms and hands as if someone had been fighting her off. When asked how she got those, she just said, oh, I did it to myself. Self-inflicted. Nobody believed her. They brought her into the interrogation room, and they started grilling her on what she knew and what she didn't. Taylor claimed that she didn't remember a lot of stuff. She said that she was confused. She had blacked out. The past few days have been a blur. Okay, Taylor, so tell us what you do know. Well, I know that Shad and I were hanging out in his basement, smoking the bitch.

The authorities were able to clarify that AKA the bitch was meth. And another thing to note, Taylor would later say that they also took Trasadone, which is this anti-depressant. It's typically used to create anxiety disorders, psychotic disorders, depression. It's a prescription drug. It's pretty sensitive.

It can have serious effects on the body, so it's typically highly tracked, administered at prescribed doses and times. But it's basically a serotonin modulator. It might be feasible that Taylor was prescribed for it for her anxiety and depression, and she ended up shooting it up. That's how she described it. Not taking it in the way that it was supposed to be taken. She was taking way too much of it, absorbing it in a way where it hit her system faster,

and some people might do this in order to achieve some sort of high. Which side note, there is no drug on the planet that you will not pay the price for later. Like you will get super happy and excited if you do these types of things, but coming down is going to be twice as worse. With draw symptoms can include shock-like sensations, suicidal thoughts, difficulty walking, trouble concentrating, even depersonalization. Which is terrifying. Depersonalization is that scary feeling that some people might get when you start

losing your sense of identity, you feel detached from your own body, your own sense of self, and overall reality. But more on that later, the police continue their questioning. Okay, and nobody came downstairs to the basement. Taylor confirmed Tara's story. No, it was just me and Chad down there, just the two of us. So what happened then Taylor talked about how they were smoking more and more and Something about the bitch made them feel frisky. Things start getting hot and heavy and the two of them start engaging in sex.

Taylor claimed, Chad has always been into choking into breath play. So he brought out these two silver-linked chains like dog choke callers to be exact. You know the ones where you pull too hard and it starts choking the dog. It's to de-incentivize them on pulling when you're walking them. Will she claims he brought two of these out, one for her, one for him. This was nothing new according to Taylor. They love strangulation during sex, which again, honestly I'm all for it, go for it if you're doing it safely with two consenting adults, you know, I don't think that anything's wrong with it. Taylor said, she had got on his stomach on the bear unsheated mattress. She wrapped the chain

around his neck, so she's on top of him, straddling him, and he's facing the mattress, he's face down. She gets on top and she starts pulling, she starts choking him. But in that moment, the tension of this pulling is lingering in her muscles. Something snaps in her brain. Now, this is how she claims it happened. I don't particularly think that something snapped in her brain, but she claims something snapped. She just had to pull harder and harder. And the more she pulled, it's like her brain was getting off on this momentum and she couldn't stop. It was like this giant wheel that was rolling down a hill.

It was too late. That's how she makes it seem. Like she couldn't stop. She just had to strangle someone to death. She acknowledges to the police that Shad did indeed try to fight back. He was trying to push her off. He managed to turn around and even Taylor staring into this guy's face, seeing into his pleading eyes, she

kept going. She kept choking him. She said she kept going until his face turned purple and blood was coming out of his mouth. She said and I quote, I just went crazy. She did not break eye contact while she was waiting for him to die. In a slightly contradictory note, she claims that she passed out at one point, and then woke up to pull and choke again. She said she she passed out at one point and then woke up to pull and choke again. She said she could still feel his heartbeat. He just refused to die, so she kept

pulling tighter. That was her intention then at that point. Yes. She said, and I quote, but he kept rebuilding into muscle. I don't know what that means. Yeah. I mean, of course, the authorities are going to ask the questions that we have, which is, but why, like, why did you keep pulling? It's impossible to believe that you just wanted to, like, you just want to keep pulling. Her response was really chilling. She said, well, I had already gotten this far. I met as well go all the way and see what happens. And you know what? Yeah, I liked it. She explained that she never went into Shad's basement with the intention of killing him, but when she started choking him, she liked it so much that she couldn't stop herself. That's basically what she's telling the police.

After she was certain that Shad was dead, she starts violating his corpse. She engaged in necrophilia. And of course, this is where people are drawing the parallels to Jeffrey Dahmer. She said she started performing oral sex on his penis, inserting sex toys into his mouth and into his anus. This one on this necrophilia, the assault of this corpse of his body went on for three hours after the murder. And when she was done, the realization, the gravity of her actions kind of hit her? I mean, I don't want to say it hit her full force, but it's like she knew that she needed to find a way out. I mean, I'm sure she ran a number of scenarios in her head.

Maybe she would drag him to her van that was parked outside. But how could she do that quickly enough that nobody would see or spot her? That's a lot of weight to carry. It was gonna be nearly impossible. She probably contemplated just leaving his body there. But she had been seen at his house, of course she would be the first suspect. Now, there's enough reason to believe that Taylor got off on the next act itself, on the dismemberment itself, because there's no logical reason that she dismembered Chad. It did not help her get away with the crime. It's not like she dismembered his body and

got rid of all the evidence. Taylor said that she snuck upstairs to find some tools. She found a few knives in Tara's kitchen. She used Tara's own kitchen knives to murder her son while she was asleep upstairs. Tara grabbed a few knives, found a bucket in the corner of the basement, and started getting to work. Shad had been dead for a few hours now, but decapitating someone, dismembering someone, especially in such a grisly manner, we're talking major blood loss.

Sure, the heart stopped pumping blood, but it's a lot. Taylor planned for this. She kept most of Shad's body on the bed. She would just hang or suspend whatever limb or part of the body that she wanted to dismember over the edge of the mattress. And underneath that limb, she would put the black bucket. And she would just saw off the limb and all the blood would gather in the bucket. And then once the bucket got too full, she would take

the bucket to the shower and empty it over the drain. She would go back and repeat this process. And it would take hours. She sought off his legs, feet, torso, even his genitals. She decapitated her lover's head by hanging his head off the mattress, placing the bucket underneath to catch the blood and sawing at his neck. For the other parts of his body, Taylor searched around for any old plastic bags that were lingering in the basement. She would fill them up with his body parts. Just anything that she could find. Plastic grocery shopping bags, old tote bags, anything. This would have taken an incredible amount of time and energy. I mean, even just dismembering one limb could have taken hours. Taylor said once she had enough limbs stacked on top of each other in the bags, she started

feeling paranoid. Oh, what if someone came downstairs? What if someone saw her? She started feeling paranoid. Oh, what if someone came downstairs? What if someone saw her? She started quietly transporting the body bags to her minivan in the middle of the street. But she only made one trip. She wasn't able to carry all the dismembered parts, so she just leaves a bunch of dismembered body parts and bags around the basement and is head in the black bucket with his genitalia.

She just leaves it. What's the plan? No plan. I don't know about the other body parts, but it's speculated that the reason that she left his head in the bucket near the stairs was when she came back one final time. So she went once to bring all the body parts to her car. And I think her plan was to come back in and grab the head, along with maybe the rest of the bags of the body parts. But she was't planning on just here you go, leaving it here. But she just left. It was weird.

I mean, it's unclear what her plan was if she was planning on disposing of all the other remains that she took in her van with her. We don't know because she never really did. Now, she does try to clean up the crime scene a little bit before she leaves. And it was bizarre. It's like the most half-fast job ever. I mean, to be fair, no amount of cold water or baking soda is going to be enough to clean that amount of blood off the mattress or the floors. But she just smeared the blood around. She kind of wiped it around. That's about it. She even tried to clean up the shower,

but there was a ton of dried blood near the drain and on the shower walls and even outside on the floor leading up to the shower. But that was enough for Taylor. She was satisfied. She was ready to go home, get some sleep. She headed upstairs, walks out, slams the door shut, waking Tara up, and when Taylor was arrested, the police searched her van and found an empty crock pot box. You know those slow cookers.

They're big. The box that they come in is pretty big. Filled with plastic bags that were filled with Shad's dismembered remains, including his legs. When asked why she didn't take the full body, she said, I meant to, but the drugs were making me paranoid and lazy. So I forgot the head in the bucket. She said, and I quote, damn, the head. I can't believe I forgot the head. The fact that someone was killed and she's amazed at how sloppy she was during the murder is insane.

Now, the rest of Shad's body is in the basement, but what really creeped the officers out is that Taylor said that they would have fun trying to find his organs, especially that they were hidden around the basement. Yeah. She also stated, you know, dumb. That they were hidden around the basement. Yeah. She also stated, you know, I didn't mean to kill Shad, but when I was choking him, I liked it. So I just kept going. I wasn't prepared. You know, killing him was completely random.

The police asked, did you think this was the right thing to do? I mean, this is a moment to be remorseful. This is a moment to reflect on your actions and I don't know, try to be a human? First second, she just responded. Well, I did it anyway. So where are we now? Taylor Shabbusiness has been charged with first degree intentional homicide, mutilation of the corpse, and third degree sexual assault. She has pled not guilty by reason of insanity. Now remember how Taylor had a husband, the father of her child, Warren, shea business. The internet was speculating on how he would react to this news. I mean, not only was Taylor actively cheating on him, she murdered her lover. I mean, it was a whole thing.

Well, he posted on Facebook. He's in prison, but somehow he has Facebook, and he's addressing Taylor, and he wrote, babe, I look at our pictures every day. They keep me motivated. They take my bitterness away. They keep a smile on my face. The world doesn't know us for who we are. They don't know the struggles we struggle with, mental health, mental illness, postpartum, bipolar addiction. They play a big part in our choices that we've made. People probably want to know what happened the day of February 23rd, 2022. Drugs. We're given to Taylor from Shad while at his house.

Yes, he's dead now, which I'm sorry for, and I'm sorry to his family. But the truth is though, the drug should have never been given to my wife because it's the drugs that caused her to do what she did. But yet, Shad isn't at fault here, and he's the one that provided her with the illegal drugs. I'm just continuing on. I just hope one day my wife will make it home because she doesn't deserve to be locked up forever.

She's still the mother of our son, she's still my beautiful wife and I want the world to know. She is not who the news makes her out to be. With that being said, please don't judge because there's always two sides to every story. And I promise you, if you knew my wife, if you knew my wife like I know my wife, you wouldn't think or believe she could ever do something like this. He finishes off the letter with baby boo,

our son and I pray for you every day. We think about you non-stop. And we promise you that no matter what, we will always be here for you. Because that's the shut business way. Stay strong and get better soon. We need you, Mommy Boo. We miss you and everything's gonna be okay.

Mom, mom, mom. Hashtag free tailor Shab business. Everything is going to be okay, always and forever. Why would you break into these apartments? For money, for drugs, whatever was in there. Why aren't you afraid of getting caught at doing this? No, who's gonna catch us? What a police.

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in the Odyssey app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your shows. I'm not a big guy man, but I love being that 30 motherf***er. Warned Shea Business has also updated his Facebook bio to say that he works for quote, queen Taylor ship business and he writes, I do trust my beautiful wife. I will do anything to protect her. Stay strong baby boo. I love you. Here's another gem from Warrant ship business. This one has been edited for length, but he wrote,

to make sure my queen knows that no matter if we're a part or not, I will do whatever is necessary to get her back next to me. Never will I ever give up on her nor will I ever lose confidence in the shop business empire. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. Baby, I promise that I'm going to be coming to get you. It's our golden year and best believe you'll be in my arms for it. Baby, stay strong and always know that your king knows how to do one thing and one thing only. That's right, what we know best. The shop business Shuffle Hustle. Now calm down and tell yourself

with confidence that you're doing a good job. It's only a matter of time till your home baby and know that I'm here for you. Never have and never will give up on us. We will get through this together. Nothing or no one could ever replace the feeling I get when I'm next to your sexy ass. For real though, I love you. Love King Poppy Boot Shabbusiness. Maybe it's too late for them to break up, not because they have a child together, but side note, they have each other's names tattooed on their necks. So, maybe it's cheaper to stay together with a killer than it is to get laser tattoo removal. Which side note, if you think Warren Shabbosness is the only one that has positively lost his marbles,

there are some guys commenting about Taylor's appearance saying that she looks hot. Someone commented about her mug shot. What many commenters don't know is that the victim passed away happily. What? I know. The response to this case has been insane. They continued, many men envy him greatly for what happened. He loved the masochistic world.

Otherwise he would not have agreed to this. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Many men love this and wish they were in his place, especially because she is a sexy and charming woman. Another person wrote about her mugshot. Wisconsin is full of sexy evil people. Another commenter. If we're doing the math correctly, this woman is a 10 out of 10.

Fairly attractive, but killer hot. Wisconsin's smoking. Someone wrote, I can fix her. Another person was a bit more skeptical. They commented, I don't know what the fuck y'all are on, but she's not that good looking. And a commentator literally responded to that to say, was she's good looking for a murder?

Yeah, what? Wow, that's wild. And another one read, I love a woman who could fucking kill me. These people need to seek help. I think these people need therapy. I just have no words. Now, a lot of weird things have been dug up about Taylor's Facebook. She had posted a picture of a bunch of words

jumbled together like a crossword. And it's one of those posts that's like the first word that you see is the way you'll die. And she wrote ha ha sex addiction. So that post has been analyzed to the depths of Helen back. There's another interesting post and I wonder if the prosecutor will attempt to bring these up in trial. I highly doubt they'll be able to, especially not the sex addiction one, but there were some other cryptic posts. Taylor wrote, I went off and told an addict, I'll never stop buying you drugs because I can sit back and watch you die. Basically saying that she wants to fund this addict's addiction so that she can watch them die.

And maybe that's how she felt about Shad. Like he's struggling, he's in a vulnerable position, and I mean again I don't know if we're reading too much into it, but it's just very creepy and lieu of what happened after. Now the final pre-trial hearing was scheduled for February 27th, so a few days before you're listening to this. The official jury trial as of right now is scheduled to start March 6th of this year, so in a couple of days. Taylor's defense attorney, Jolly, attorney Jolly, that's his last name, is pulling out every trick in the book, and it does not seem to be working.

The first order of business was Jolly's trying to get the judge to approve a non-Jerry trial. Yes, usually people benefit from working with jurors, I don't think that's going to apply in this case. I don't think so. The judge has denied the request. Then the attorney Jolly has asked for a few competency exams, three in total so far because each one he's not getting the result that he wants. So he's trying to make sure that Taylor is fit to stand trial, and each time she's proven to be fit, and he keeps ordering a new one. There were a few interesting things that came out of her competency exams,

so Taylor talked about how when she was 11 years old, her mom had died, and her mom took her heart with her, and I quote, gave it to a pedophile. So there is speculation that maybe Taylor was sexually assaulted when she was younger. Keep this in mind for later. But regardless, each time Taylor was found fit to stand trial. Attorney Jolly argued, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. She is not fit to stand trial.

He brought up the fact that she had mental health issues since she was in the seventh grade. She had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder as well as being psychotic, basically saying that she experiences times of psychosis. Now I personally don't like this defense being brought up, it's one thing to factor in mental health, but to act like that is the explanation for her actions, rubs me the wrong way, it stigmatizes mental health, it stigmatizes an entire group of people that have the same diagnosis.

Studies have shown time and time again. People who are diagnosed as bipolar are no more likely to commit violent crimes than other members of the population. Like, people who are diagnosed with mental health diagnoses, I mean, typically they're a bigger danger to themselves than they are to anybody else. But there is a loophole, a little loophole, that Jolly is really trying to weasel his way into. A lot of these studies do state that all of this is accurate.

Unless the subjects are diagnosed with mental health diagnoses and are abusing drugs in alcohol. Sometimes I can lead them down a darker path, but again, I don't really, I mean, I can't say I don't agree with the study, I don't know how thorough it is, but I feel like that's a very blanket statement. I think anyone diagnosed or not that abuses, drugs and alcohol are more likely to do things that are just not admirable actions. Jolly is arguing that the diagnosis, along with the usage of meth and the antidepressants

that were being abused, caused Taylor to act like that. He's saying that she wasn't in control of her actions. Meth has been found to worsen pre-existing symptoms of bipolar disorder. It has been found to cause manic episodes. They're arguing that with all these combinations, Taylor began hallucinating. Now, they argue that Trasadone, the antidepressant, just on its own can have some severe side effects. It's not as common, but it's not impossible. The side effects include things like chest pain, irregular heartbeats, hallucinations, fainting spells, problems and concentration with memory, and even coordination problems, which I feel like Taylor did not have any coordination problems that night. Again, I don't really like this argument. I just feel like it stigmatizes mental health and the bipolar community. And it's

just nobody forced Taylor to do drugs. Just to me, it's all thing anyway. A redditor commented basically a conspiracy on this case. Now, I don't know where they got this information. It's not verified, but I want to put it out there because it takes little pieces and chunks of the information we've already been told and pieces it into this theory that a lot of people are intrigued by. The Redditor wrote, apparently she was sexually abused as a kid. She developed a rampant sex addiction, referencing her Facebook post. She was obsessed with Jeffrey Dahmer. I honestly think that she would have continued to commit these types of crimes if she hadn't

been caught. Some say that she had already done something before she killed Shad. Why does this Redditor think that? Well, at one point, Shad posted on Facebook, maybe like a week before his death, something along the lines of, how could you do that to somebody that you know you crossed the line and I'm done? People are saying that maybe he had witnessed her doing something to someone before. The Redditor continues, from what I've gathered, she had a heart upbringing, clearly the sexual assault really affected her. You had abandonment and other mental health issues and drug use, especially meth. Things are going to start going south. So that's what the

Redditor thinks. A lot of people have agreed with the sentiment online. I think people are just having a hard time understanding how someone got to this point, how someone could do something so heartless, and maybe this is all true. But at the same time, it's still hard to have sympathy for Taylor. Like fine, maybe it wasn't premeditated in the sense that she didn't bring her own murder weapon. It wasn't the most well thought out smart crime. But at the end of the day, this is a full grown adult that chose to take this amount of drugs on her own free will and she committed an act of violence and she should be held accountable. But that's the angle the attorneys are taking. Well at least that's the angle attorney Jolly,

Taylor's attorney was taking until Valentine's Day of this year, February 14th. There was a hearing help where Taylor and her attorney showed up sat at the defense table while talking with the judge. The prosecutors table were filled with attorneys that wanted to get justice for Shad and Shad's family. For most of the hearing, Taylor seemed a bit lethargic if anything just kind of zoned out,

like she was on a bunch of drugs. The whole thing was recorded, by the way. The camera turns to the judge, and we hear a bit of like rustling. It's nothing significant, it's nothing intense. It doesn't sound like the start of like a MMA fight, but the camera pans back to where Taylor is sitting with her hands handcuffed in front of her,

and she's whipping them around Trying to smack her own attorney. She's like trying to beat up her own attorney She's like win-milling her handcuffed hands in the air waving them around trying to Yeah, attorney Jolly is trying to defend himself. He's on a wheelie chair So he's like wheeling away from her. He's on the wheelie chair All those office chairs and he's like wheeling away from her. Like all the chairs and wheeling away from her. And a deputy rushes over, tackles Taylor to the ground. She's still wind milling her arms, whipping them back and forth trying to smack everyone

that gets in her way. And the weirdest part, the part that people are raising their eyebrows about on this one, Taylor gets wrestled to the ground. They give her a few minutes to calm down. Suddenly, she stops struggling and asks, what happened? The deputy tells her, you went off on your attorney tailor, you went crazy, are you okay? Yeah, I'm okay. The guard keeps her against the floor for like another minute, and then helps her into a sitting position on a nearby wall. I don't know, it just seems like she's really going for this insanity plea.

This whole like, what? I don't remember what just happened. I blacked out. There's a whole whole, it's all recorded. I believe so. Wow. So how did the judge take that? Not well. Yeah, the judges already fed up with Taylor and her team because they keep prolonging this case. They keep pushing it back. They keep trying to create delays. And delays are useful in the sense that sometimes things take a lot of time. But delays, ultimately, they do kind of help the accused. Cases lose steam.

They lose the public eye, the public attention. Witnesses get less interested. Witnesses kind of get fed up with all these court proceedings. It's just not great. So the judge was already fed up with Taylor and her team. And this is very strange. Another thing to notice, she's acting like she blacked out. She doesn't remember what just took place. And she said that she blacked out when she was killing Shad,

but then she proceeded to give them a play-by-play on what she did to Shad. So did she black out? Did she not, did she black out? And then the memories came? I don't know. It's just all kind of suspicious. Well, defense attorney Jolly is no longer her defense attorney. The same day, he motioned to withdrawal from the case due to her actions. He dropped her as a client, essentially, which can you blame him. Side note, a woman named Anne Schwartz who wrote two books about Jeffrey Dahmer

so that she found sources that were very close to Taylor, who claimed that Taylor had this infatuation with Jeffrey Dahmer. She wouldn't reveal her sources, but very interesting to note. I'm interested to see how the trial plays out, but I just find it hard to feel any sympathy at all for Taylor and her mental health struggles.

I think it's interesting to see because anytime you have a female killer commits such a gruesome act of violence, that is not in the name of argued self-defense, that's not one of these areas, it's interesting to see how the public responds. It's interesting to see how the jury responds. I mean, even some of the public talking about her looks

and how hot she is, it's very strange. And I mean, I do think that the decapitation is going to play a huge role in this. It's just cruel. There is a complete disregard for the people in Shad's life when you do something like that. These family members, they have the right to see him one last time, to put his body to rest and she stole that from them. Shad's family have set up a go fund me, and Shad's uncle has come out to say, Shad was

taken from us from what I can only assume is a monster. Shad was someone who had a good heart and soul. Shad, I love you so much, I can't even begin to describe what we're feeling. I think all we can do is hope that justice is served and support Shad's family in any way that we can do is hope that justice is served and support Shad's family in any way that we can. And to add to the trauma and grief, Shad's half-sister passed away unexpectedly December of 22. So the same year, they lost Shad and his half-sister.

And I just hope that this family can get some closure after this trial. I hope that the trial gives them what they need to move on and maybe some peace to heal from their grief. But it doesn't seem like Taylor is going to make it easy for anyone. And that's the crazy case of Taylor's Shubb is that has been highly requested. Let me know your thoughts and please stay safe. I'll see you guys on Sunday for the mini-sode, which will have the videos up on YouTube and Spotify as well. Bye.

for the mini-sode, which will have the videos up on YouTube and Spotify as well. Bye.