Rotten Mango - #243: Itaewon Halloween Tragedy - 159 Dead & How The Police Tried To Cover It Up

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Rotten Mango Visual: https://www.youtube.com/@rottenmangopod On October 30th, a man walked out of his tiny little shop in Itaewon. He placed a pink blanket in the grim alleyway. He got on his knees i...n front of a tray of food he had prepared. Police immediately swarmed him, demanding he leave right away. Nobody was supposed to be in the alley, not after what had happened there. The man yelled at the police - โ€œdonโ€™t you dare touch the food. Donโ€™t touch it. Please you have to let me do this. The kids need to eat one last meal.โ€ 159 young souls had tragically died in that little alleyway. The man had desperately tried to save them. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 in all states or situations, prices vary based on how you buy. Betta being betta boo. On October 30th, a man walked out of his tiny little shop in Itaewon, and he placed this pink piece of cloth into this alleyway. He brings out this tray of food. He lights two candles and this elderly man gets on his knees in front of the food and he just starts, he starts sobbing. Police immediately approached him and this alleyway is supposed to be closed off. They had
Starting point is 00:00:56 it taped up. Nobody was allowed through. So what is this man doing? Remnants of the tragedy before we're lingering everywhere. There's IDs, lost shoes, clothes, like everything is scattered throughout the alleyway. And the officer tells the old man, the police officer, you can't do this, like you gotta go, grab your stuff, come on, let's go. The old man starts arguing back. He's like, don't do this right now. You have to let me do this, You have to let this go. The officer tells him, just take your food. We got to go. And he screams, no, you leave that right there. More officers start to show up at the scene, and they start touching the food that he's
Starting point is 00:01:35 laid out on the ground. They're trying to take it away. The man breaks down, and he yells at them. Don't you even dare touch the food. Finally, the man breaks down completely and he's sitting on the ground, cold cement, and he's just sobbing. The officer sits down with him and both of them start crying and he's like stroking the old man's back,
Starting point is 00:01:56 trying to console him. The old man had screamed at them. The children need to have one last meal. One last meal, so don't touch it. Don't you dare touch it. The night before, he owns a shop in this alleyway. He's a business owner and he said that he tried his best to save as many people as he could, but so many more people died literally right in front of his eyes.
Starting point is 00:02:21 159 people died in the alleyway the night before and he wanted them to have one last meal. As always full show notes are listed at rottenmangopodcast.com. There's a lot of videos that I've linked there. Please go watch them and if you guys are watching the video podcast on YouTube at RottenMango or on Spotify all the videos are gonna be in this video and I'm just gonna warn you so many of these videos are so incredibly graphic and all of them just yeah. So with that being said, let's get into it. I'm just going to drop you in the middle of this story. His parents were really worried about him. He was meeting with a therapist twice
Starting point is 00:03:01 a week. He had on campus counseling in high school. It seemed like the parents were doing all of the right things. They were not ignoring his cries for help. They weren't saying, oh, he's just a 16 year old teenager. Maybe he's just emotional. They were taking everything he was saying so very seriously. Their son had always been a bit of a quieter kid. But like a good kid, he listened to his parents, he studied, came home on time, and if he was out having fun,
Starting point is 00:03:27 he was always with the same two friends. They were like the three peas in a pod, they were the three musketeers, and now he just feels so alone. He feels like he's 16, completely isolated from the world. I mean, the parents did everything that they could to help. December 12th of 2022, so not too long ago, just a few weeks before Christmas, the parents get a text message from their son. And he says, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:03:50 mom and dad, please don't forget me. Please, you must remember me. I'm gonna go meet up with my friends. His friends had died in the Itaewen Halloween crowd search just 43 days ago. Itaewon Halloween crowd search just 43 days ago. The crowd search that killed 159 people and injured nearly 200 others. And now their son would take his life in a motel bathroom because he couldn't bear to carry this like incredibly heavy burden of being the only survivor in his friend group.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Literally, nobody could have ever imagined what was gonna happen that night in Itaewon. I'm sure you guys have ever imagined what was going to happen that night in ETA1. I'm sure you guys have heard of what happened there Halloween weekend of 2022 and if there were a few people that knew it was dangerous, it definitely wasn't the parents of the people in attendance. They would never have let their kids go if they knew anything bad was going to happen. By all accounts, all these people in attendance, they were responsible adults. There were some that were in high school, some even
Starting point is 00:04:50 as young as middle school, but their parents knew exactly where they were going. They just wanted to celebrate. So I kind of need to talk to you about how the night starts, so you, you just see how normal it is. It wasn't like all these people, they went to this dangerous area and risked their lives to celebrate. Like they went to this area that everyone was like, oh, we're warning you don't go here. It's so so bad. Absolutely not. Like that's not what happened at all. I did see some online discourse of people being like, well, these people were being young and drunk and reckless. And this is what happens when they all gather in one spot. I completely disagree.
Starting point is 00:05:25 For example, Mr. and Mrs. A, that's what we're going to call them. They're sitting in the car, October 29th of 2022, and they're on their way to this super fancy restaurant. They're smiling at each other in the car. I'm sure they felt really excited and kind of giddy. Like they had worked so hard in the past, what, like, three decades to raise their family and now their kids finally all grown up. So the parents knew of living the life
Starting point is 00:05:51 and it was also the dad's birthday and their 25-year-old daughter had just made their reservations at one of the fanciest restaurants in town. She texted her dad, go have fun with mom. Also, thank you for raising me. I'll repay you in the future. Ha ha. She wouldn't be joining them as she was gonna go with some friends to celebrate Halloween and eat her own. So the whole car ride, they're just smiling at each other. I mean, they had raised their
Starting point is 00:06:15 kids to be such incredible adults. In another part of solar, a dad watched his daughter get ready for Halloween festivities. She was dressed up as Princess Jasmine from Aladdin, and he remembered. He actually made fun of her. He was like this full grown kid. She was putting on a fashion show for me, and she twiled around and she was like, Apa, this is what I'm wearing. Don't I look pretty? I'm sure he was a bit worried that his daughter was going out, but that's very normal. I mean, no parent ever really stops wearing. Same as another father in total.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So his daughter told him that she was going to eat to one for Halloween. He completely trusted her to be safe. She's just always like all these other kids. I mean, she's just always been this really well-behaved kid. She knew the rules. She followed them. She's the type that would write him
Starting point is 00:07:01 these lengthy letters for his birthday. The two had this really intense bond. So three years before Itaewan, he was diagnosed with leukemia. And his daughter was a match. So they transplanted bone marrow from her to save his life. And she would write to him while he's recovering in the hospital. And she wrote, I'm so happy to have been born your daughter. You're the only one that I can rely on, so please don't get sick again, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Take good care of yourself, Dad. I need you to stay with me for like another 70 years. You have to cook me seaweed soup. Even when I'm like 96 years old, you know, I don't like any other people's seaweed soup. I love you, Dad. You're the best. By the end of the night, she would be dead. And he would cry out, you told me you wanted me to stay with you for 70 years. You wanted me to cook you seaweed soup until you were 96. You promised.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Before we get there, let me tell you about Halloween in South Korea. If you're gonna be anywhere in Korea for Halloween, like the first Halloween after COVID restrictions have been lifted was October of 2022. Three years, it was going to be Eto and if you were gonna go anywhere to celebrate. Eto is a city that's located inside of Seoul and it's above the Han River. It's typically known as just a place with incredibly fun, lively nightlife.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Like that's what people go to Eto and for. They've got bars, restaurants, nightclubs, shops that open late. It's just like this gathering center. It's also a super popular destination for foreigners. Like the energy just feels really unique there. There's even this famous K-drama called Eto and Class. And there's actually a famous quote in that series that says Most people just come to ito and for Halloween
Starting point is 00:08:48 So October 29th of 2022 party goers are spending hours in front of their bathroom mirrors like putting on their face make up their Costume their fixing their hair their wigs their everything adjusting their dresses and their pants and businesses were equally as busy like Halloween in itaewon that weekend, insane. They're making sure they got all the inventory that came in, like they got to get all the Soju glasses. They're turning up the music. I mean, they're doing everything to make sure that everyone's going to have a good time. They're prepping their ingredients for all the food. I mean, there's going gonna be about 130,000 people
Starting point is 00:09:25 coming through Itawan, which is a pretty small area. Wow. So, like, think about it. The city is whole. This is like a part of the major city. Even taxi drivers were on standby near Itawan, just waiting to take all the drunk people home. And I think it's important to note,
Starting point is 00:09:41 for weekends like this, it's a boost in the city's economy. And this is important later. So the whole for weekends like this, it's a boost in the city's economy. And this is important later. So the whole city of Itaewen, they're prepping for this big Halloween weekend. It's literally been three years since Itaewen had a Halloween because of, you know, the pandemic. This is the first time that mask mandates have been lifted for Halloween. So let's talk transportation. Let's talk about the logistics of this night.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Most citizens that were heading into Itaewon, they were not going to drive. You know, they're going to take the Korean subway. First of all, most people take the subway to begin with. It's the easiest way to move around and parking would have been absolutely horrific in Itaewon that night. Most people were planning on drinking so they're not driving. And this is so important to note. Itaewon subway station drops you off right smack dab like in the middle of Itaewon. Right next to this little alleyway. Now, this little alleyway is important because it connects the main road that has the subway station and the world's street food road, which is like where all the bars and restaurants
Starting point is 00:10:43 are. So, a lot of people will travel through this alleyway to get from the train station to the busiest part of Itoan. Some people will leave Itoan by taking this little alleyway. Now during the day, this alleyway looks just unassuming. It's just this narrow little space. There's restaurant entrances up and down both sides. There's even a hotel called the Hamilton Hotel located on the alleyway.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Okay, so the main entrance for the hotel isn't in the alleyway, but it's like the building is right there. To me, it just looks like your stereotypical alleyway in one of the big cities, like Spaces Tide, the places are gonna be tight. It's about 10 feet wide and about 130 feet long, and it's on a hill, so it slopes downward. Another thing to note is that the road is not paved over in like a smooth cement. I wouldn't even say, okay, I wouldn't say it's as intense as cobblestone, but it's like a brick floor where some bricks protrude out more than others. And you can definitely tell that some parts of this hill, this downward slope, they're uneven.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So even without a crowd, it's the kind of alleyway where if you were walking down with your friend, you would try to keep an eye out, because you could easily trip. It's that kind of rocky. Now, take this alleyway and imagine two horizontal roads, big roads. One road is the main party street for Itoan,
Starting point is 00:11:59 called Itoan World Food Street. And the other road has the Itoan subway station on there. And the easiest way to get from these two parallel roads is this tiny little alleyway. So throughout the entire Halloween night people are up and down this alleyway getting to and from the subway station and as the night is progressing there were what now seems like the first warning signs. There were a few people that were pushed down or accidentally shoved in this alleyway. Now, I mean, I'm sure the party energy, the alcohol, I'm sure it had something to do with it,
Starting point is 00:12:32 but most of it was due to the alleyway, like the crowds, the foot traffic, the uneven flooring, the slope, but everyone responded to these mini accidents in a very normal way. Everyone would freeze, make sure the person got back up, was good, and then everyone would keep walking again. That's kind of to be expected. What's not to be expected is nearly 200 people dying in this alleyway. The first 911 call of the night was made at 6.30 pm.
Starting point is 00:12:59 The incident doesn't happen until about 10. Wow, so that's three and a half hour earlier? Three and a half hours earlier, people started realizing something wasn't right. Things are going to get weird. So in Korea, it's one, one, two, the emergency line. But someone called to report to the police, hey, the alleyway near the Hamilton hotel is getting dangerous. People are going up and down this tiny little alleyway.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Some people are struggling to get down the alleyway because people keep pushing them up. Like, I barely made it out of the alleyway. It's getting that crowded. It's getting bad. I think you guys need to send some people down here and try to control the situation. The police on the other end asked, are people gonna fall down and cause a huge accident?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, it's really dangerous. You need to do something. Okay, thanks for calling. We're gonna send someone out to check it out For hours Nobody checked it out But that's weird because don't you need to have police presence when there's big crowd anyways? Yeah, so that's the argument that people have and why I said it's so important the fact that Halloween weekend is an economic weekend
Starting point is 00:14:01 It boosts the economy of the city. So anytime there's these events that are held, police are part of the planning, it's all part of city planning. That's like what your taxes are paying for. There was like no police there. I mean we're gonna get into all the reasonings, a lot of police officers get arrested. 7pm, a large crowd gets stuck in the alleyway. I do think several things play a factor in how things would turn out this first time. It's 7pm. The party is just getting started, it seemed. People were drunk, but more than that, people were just excited to be there. Keep this in mind, and it's not that big of a crowd.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So there's a crowd stuck in the alleyway, and it seems like an accident is just waiting to happen. So a woman in the crowd, she senses the danger. She climbs up onto a ledge in the alleyway where she can see both waves, and she starts directing the crowd. She senses the danger. She climbs up to up onto a ledge in the alleyway where she can see both ways and she starts directing the crowd. Like, you know, a traffic police officer. She's urging everyone, hey, go down the slope first, everybody. Move to the side and then people going up the slope can come up afterwards. It sounds easy. I mean, it sounds like why didn't they do this the next time it happened, but it wasn't easy by any means Like the crowd was moving basically inch by inch. That's how jam packed it was. It was not like a hey everyone to the right to the left
Starting point is 00:15:12 They're inching forward and backward, but I still think it was at a point where it was Manageable everyone was yelling to everyone listen to the woman get down the alleyway first the music wasn't that loud yet Listen to the woman, get down the alleyway first. The music wasn't that loud yet. People weren't out and about for that long. And just in general, there weren't that many people in the alleyway. But after this crowd is able to get through the alleyway, there's like this lingering feeling. This is not a good situation.
Starting point is 00:15:38 At first, in the beginning of the night, all the posts about Eta won that night were, oh my god, Eta won't be crazy, it's gonna be fun, it's so exciting, look at all the places that are open, look at these costumes people are wearing. It was a good thing, it was a positive feeling. But throughout the night, more posts were popping up about how dangerous things were starting to feel.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Someone straight up tweeted, wildly unsafe in Etawan right now. They showed some pictures of the intense crowds. It wasn't just social media being made aware of the situation. A lot of people in Etawan called the police, which I think is interesting because technically no crime had taken place yet, but the fact that a lot of these civilians could see that things were escalating, I think that goes to show you how unprepared the city was for this event. Like it's just insane. One survivor said, it was around 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:16:25 when I went into the alleyway, and it was like hell. So this is even before the incident. They said, there were already a ton of people in the alleyway, and I couldn't get into the alleyway. I couldn't even get in. So there's multiple directions that people are coming in from. On both sides of the alleyway,
Starting point is 00:16:40 there's two directions people are flowing in from. And she said, I couldn't get in after waiting for an hour to start walking down the alleyway, there's two directions people are flowing in from. And she said, I couldn't get in. After waiting for an hour to start walking down the alleyway, my friend and I were like, okay, we can't do this. Like, let's turn around. They try to turn around. Is this like the only way to get down there? There is another alleyway, but it's not as convenient as this one. So they try to turn around. They're like, okay, we've been waiting here for an hour. We haven't even started walking down the alleyway, but it was impossible to turn around and they're like, okay, we've been waiting here for an hour. We haven't even started walking down the alleyway. But it was impossible to turn around
Starting point is 00:17:07 because they were jammed packed. People were pushing up behind him. I mean, they were literally trapped. Someone was pushing them down the alleyway. People in front of them were pushing back on them. She said that she heard people behind her screaming, squeeze in, squeeze in. Like, come on, let's get down the alleyway.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But in front of her, people were screaming, help me stop me stop like I can't breathe Stop pushing this was a clock. Yeah, the scariest part that she said was she fell She said a person in front of me fell and I fell with them and everyone behind me started falling like dominoes Right, so there was like a little incident where everyone started tripping and she said someone was under me I was under someone and people were on top of me. I could barely breathe. I was calling for help and I felt like the music was drowning me out. Nobody could even hear me. And then finally someone like dragged her to the side into one of the
Starting point is 00:17:56 bars. They later left the alley slowly along the wall, but it was just as crowded as they left. So things there clearly, clearly getting worse and worse. One caller told the police before the tragedy, and I repeat, before the tragedy, they called the police and said, I feel like I'm gonna get crushed. When I was in that alleyway, a lot of people were just getting squashed. It's pure chaos out here. Please help, send help. The officer on the other line reassured her that help was on the way. Records showed that they were not on the way. Out of numerous phone calls that were made to the police that night, the police only sent out officers four times and apparently they didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't know if maybe they didn't feel like anything was wrong, maybe they didn't care to find out. Honestly, I don't know, but it is noted the police did not dispatch anyone after calls were made from 9pm and onward. So in our leading up to the tragedy, the police sent no officers to the site. And they were getting tens of calls. And it truly is not that nobody was alerting them. That something was wrong. In fact, someone even walked into the police station to tell them. A live streamer, let's call her G. G was live streaming in Itaewon that night.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And you know, the night started off great. But soon the roads, the alleyways, I got so crowded, she's being pushed and shoved to the point where she had a crossbody bag on and the strap broke and her purse was just gone because it fell. And she can't even look at the ground because it's just so filled with people. She tries to look for it briefly, but the crowd is so intense. She goes to the Ito and police station to report her purse missing, but also, I mean, she's warning them. This is how crazy the crowds are. You don't think that's crazy that this happened with my purse? Nobody stole it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 It broke because I was being pushed and shoved. She said, when I was there in the alleyway, I even saw people shouting that they had fallen and that they had gotten hurt. You guys need to do something about it, the crowd is getting out of control, somebody is going to get hurt. The police ignored her, they instead focused on the fact that they're like, oh well, we're going to keep an eye out on your prayers. Hopefully someone turns it in tomorrow to lost and found. What's going on? Oh, it gets really, the conspiracies to it. It's really crazy. So I mean, the question I guess is the police just really think that nothing bad was going to happen,
Starting point is 00:20:12 but they were wrong. The tragedy happened one hour after she reported it to the police. A 24 year old South Korean streamer, let's call him Mr. A, he was live streaming. And his time in Itaewon, like I said, with the other live streamer, at first you see him laughing, he's smiling on the stream, he is walking through the crowds, there's people in costumes dancing, having fun. And then slowly the initial joy just starts dissipating. Those laughter suddenly morph into people's screams
Starting point is 00:20:39 and cries. And at one point, even the streamer is crying for help because he had walked into the alleyway and got caught in the crowd surge. He said the space got tighter and tighter and tighter and the pressure became unbearable. He said there was this girl next to him and she was much, much shorter than him.
Starting point is 00:20:58 She was screaming for help. He tried to give her as much space as possible but it was difficult. And in the end, he said that he saw her face turn purple, and then she stopped screaming. And then she died. The streamers said the only reason he was alive was a guy in a blue denim jacket helped him climb up into this small ledge on the wall of the alleyway. It was like a small staircase ledge, like a mini balcony. And the streamers said that once he got up there,
Starting point is 00:21:28 he started helping other people onto the ledge, saving them from the crowd. And there was this moment where people on the ledge looked at each other and one of the guys told him, please don't pull more people up. It's already too crowded. And the streamer said, okay, just one more. He helped save about five to ten people from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And remember the denim jacket guy that helped him get onto the ledge in the first place? He stayed in the crowd and let the weaker people climb up on him to get to the ledge. He survived. He did make it up to the ledge at the end. He stayed behind to help administer CPR later. It's speculated that the man in the denim jacket saved more than 10 people that night. But the crowd started getting tighter and tighter,
Starting point is 00:22:12 till literally hundreds, hundreds of people were trapped in the alleyway. The space of the alleyway is set to have been the size of maybe like half a classroom. Think of that many people in this small amount of space. They're not able to communicate because the music is so loud. The floors are uneven, it's so easy to trip, it's just insane. Obviously, I don't know what that would have felt like I've never been in that situation, but there were a lot of people who survived the surge and they described
Starting point is 00:22:39 it as. I saw a man with this flashing baton trying to signal people to move back. But you can't move back, it doesn't even matter if someone's giving you directions. It's so crowded. You can't move even if everyone wants to move. You can't move. So like I said, this crowd surge was different from the first one. You know, the first one that I told you about that didn't turn into an accident because the woman on the ledge, there were way too many people this time. So even if there were people taking initiative trying to navigate the crowds, there was no
Starting point is 00:23:08 space. The amount of coordination, something like that would have taken nearly impossible in these conditions. And even then, who knows if it would have worked. People in the crowds said that they saw several people trying to look up at the sky, looking for some sort of like direction, some air, they look like they were getting lightheaded, like they were going to faint. They couldn't even reach their arms up to protect their lungs.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So that's like the first thing they tell you to do in a crowd search is to try to give your space, give your lungs space. So you put up your arms in almost a defensive boxing position. They couldn't even lift their arms. Most of the ones in the center of the crowd, They couldn't even lift their arms. Most of the ones in the center of the crowd, they couldn't even reach their hands to look at their phones that they were holding in their hands. Many of them had missed calls from their parents.
Starting point is 00:23:54 One mother texted her daughter, where are you? Where are you? I'm losing my mind. I'm going crazy because I'm so worried. Please respond just so I know where you are. Please just tell me you're safe. The mother had her daughter's name saved on her phone as my oldest princess. She would never respond. There is a video of the situation. Well there's multiple videos of the situation where you
Starting point is 00:24:16 can see just how dire the situation is. There's some videos where you can see a man trying to cling on to a brick that's protruding from the wall and it's just, it's just really graphic. I know I might be puzzling. Some of the videos they show a different perspective where there looks to be some sort of space between the crowd and like an opening and I saw a lot of comments that were like why don't they just all move forward? There's space. I don't get it. At this point, what the video isn't showing is that there's people stacked on top of each other on the ground in front of that space. There's no way for anyone standing to move forward.
Starting point is 00:24:54 People had fallen. They were stacked so high, the people behind them were blocked. It said that the worst part of the crowd search, people were stacked on top of each other 13 feet tall. People fell, they couldn't get back up, more people fell on those people, and so on and so forth. In situations like this, it's like a domino effect. One person falls down and because of the force of others pressing into you, it's very likely that another person's going to fall. You say 13 feet?
Starting point is 00:25:25 That's way taller than the ceiling. it's very likely that another person's gonna fall. You say 13 feet? That's way taller than the ceiling. Yeah, because it's going downhill and stuff. Again, this has nothing to do with anyone being drunk. I don't really like it when people make it out to be, oh, a bunch of drunk people, of course, they're gonna trip and fall. They're gonna wreak havoc. This is more about just plain physics.
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Starting point is 00:26:51 Visit max.com. Because of the slope and inertia, like I said, one person falls, it's going to be a domino effect. People are just going to start collapsing. And even if you don't fall, that doesn't mean that you're going to be fine. The pressure of all these people pushing into you, it would cause your lungs to not be able to inflate with oxygen. If 10 people are pushing onto you with their body weight and more, or let's say they're on top of you, which by the way, there looks to be way more than 10 people
Starting point is 00:27:19 pushing onto everyone. Let's say they're on top of you, that could be similar to a thousand pounds of weight pressing straight onto your chest. It's gonna be very, very difficult for you to breathe. It's incredibly dangerous, incredibly real, incredibly terrifying. A person may lose consciousness 30 seconds after being severely crushed and they would suffocate after about six minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Side note, I know a lot of people in the beginning when news first broke of what happened. I saw a lot of people wondering if it was a stampede, which is you're getting run over by a group of people, like they're running on top of you, but it wasn't. It wasn't someone being trampled to death. This was more like quick sand, like being trapped in quick sand. People were pushing up against one another, falling, stacking on top of each other. It's like you're suffocating because you're unable to expand your chest to bring in air. Many of the victims would pass out while they were still standing up. So it wasn't a stampede. It's categorized as a crowd surge. Most people who were in the crowd,
Starting point is 00:28:21 they remembered vividly about how it felt. They were being lifted off the ground. Their feet weren't even touching the ground anymore, and that's why there's so many shoes that were left behind, because that's how strong. I mean, the pressure from all sides, they were just being pushed and shoved, and that pressure, it's like they're being held in the air by it. I imagine it's like the feeling of being caught in this powerful wave in the ocean, like you don't stand a chance when you're there. Your body is pushed, shoved, thrown off balance, the force is so strong like what can you
Starting point is 00:28:50 do. And in this situation, survival might slowly depend on where your position when it happens. There's a 21 year old Malaysian named Raghu and he was lost in the crowd search. He called his best friend Kim while he was stuck in the crowd search. He called his best friend Kim while he was stuck in the crowd search and Kim said Raghu was this hard worker. He worked in construction so that he could earn money to send back to his parents back home in Malaysia. He was just this patient and kind soul
Starting point is 00:29:19 that just wanted to support his family. He called him in the crowd and he told his friend Kim, I'm having a hard time breathing He also told him there's a woman next to me who's fainting and I'm trying to get her medical attention She needs help very quickly He told Kim that he's trying to find ways to escape the crowd search because this woman this stranger Really needed help Kim is anxiously staying on the phone with him And I'm sure that he felt just helpless because he can't do anything for his friend. And then suddenly, Raghu told him that the woman who was trying to save, the stranger next
Starting point is 00:29:51 him, her hand had gotten cold. And not too long after, the phone was disconnected. That was the last time Kim would hear from his friend. He died that night. At around 10.30 pm, the fire department starts receiving calls that 10 people have been pushed down to the ground and crushed. So again, I don't think it was just 10 people, but I think in the vicinity, people who were able to access their phones saw about 10 people. They reported that people were having difficulties breathing. A few minutes later,
Starting point is 00:30:21 the first four ambulances were dispatched. Then six more came just a few moments later. Police officers started arriving at the scene and they're unable to control the crowds. Now, it's important to note that there are, if you select police officers to judge for not taking action quicker, but a lot of the ones that were dispatched in this moment, they were just genuinely trying their best to help. They were not the ones making executive decisions of who goes where, they were just genuinely trying their best to help. They were not the ones making executive decisions of who goes where they were going where their superiors told them to go.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They were not the ones picking up the phone about this Ito Uncrowd surge. They were just told to go there. So they show up not knowing what's going on. Police officer Kim, he wasn't even dispatched to the scene. He was undue, de nearby, and he happened across the situation. So he stops and he tries to the scene. He was undue, de nearby, and he happened across the situation. So he stops and he tries to take action. He said that when he got to the alleyway,
Starting point is 00:31:10 he made his way through the crowd. He saw that civilians, regular civilians, were already taking initiative, pulling people out and doing CPR on them. So he's like, okay, okay, this is what we need to do. You know, we need to try to figure out the best course of action in this chaos. He and his colleague decide that the best thing that they can do is redirect the crowds to stay away from the alleyway, away from the Hamilton hotel, because you add more people in the mix,
Starting point is 00:31:34 it's just not good. They also need it space for rescue work. So he starts trying to direct the crowds and it was hard. So these crowds, most of these people have no idea what's going on in the alleyway. These are people that are about to funnel into the alleyway. And they're moving past him and he's in police uniform, but so are a lot of people. It's Halloween. Oh my gosh. And he's trying to get everyone to walk away from the alleyway because it's utter chaos over there. People are dying. People are suffocating, falling
Starting point is 00:32:02 down, collapsing. And if you watch the video of him, there is like this almost primal desperation in his eyes. He's trying to talk to the people that are moving away from him and these people, they're inches away from his face and it seems like nobody's listening. Either they can't hear them through the music. It's nightmare fuel. When you're screaming, no one can hear you. You're the only one that knows that doom is happening.
Starting point is 00:32:26 There's panic. He's trying to scream over the music. Please go home. Do us a favor. Everyone, please go home. Don't go further. Please, go back. Please, don't go forward.
Starting point is 00:32:36 You can literally feel the fear through the video. He tried his best to warn the crowds. He tried to warn everyone that people were dying and they all needed to leave. It was dangerous. And nobody was really listening. the crowds, he tried to warn everyone that people were dying and they all needed to leave. It was dangerous. And nobody was really listening. He was later interviewed and he said that he didn't have a megaphone on him because he
Starting point is 00:32:53 wasn't dispatched to the scene. He was just undudy. He stumbled upon the dire situation. So I imagine he wasn't even driving around in like a cop car. I imagine that he was like on patrol duty. He said, if we went back to the precinct to get a megaphone, we would have lost too much valuable time. And he cried on the interview and he said, in the end, a lot of people ended up dying.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And I kept thinking to myself, if I had heard, if I had a megaphone on me, if I handled the situation differently in a better way, maybe we might have saved one more person. And that's why I'm at a loss for words and I'm so sorry to the families who have lost their loved ones. He said, I tried my best to rescue them and I'm sorry. I just couldn't. I couldn't. The situation literally couldn't have been worse. I know there's a lot of discourse about what's wrong with these partygoers. People are dying. Why aren't they listening to the police?
Starting point is 00:33:54 What's wrong with them? But that's not everyone. I mean, I would like to believe it was a small group of people. It's not like everyone just stood around watching people. They tried really hard. There was a photographer visiting from China and he went to Itao and thinking, he would take a lot of cool pictures
Starting point is 00:34:10 since he heard the costumes were gonna be going all out this year. He finds himself crushed in the alleyway instead. He's hanging onto this pole to prevent himself from losing balance and falling over. And he was standing behind these two women. Every time like a wave of pushing would come, he would grab onto these women.
Starting point is 00:34:28 He said he tried to stabilize them because he knew if they fell over, they would be dead. There would be no getting back up in this situation. He wanted to make sure that they were okay, even when he himself was not doing okay. And there were others like him. He said he looked into the crowd and saw this family.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So a mom, dad, and a kid that seemed to be maybe three, four years old. The dad was holding onto the baby above the crowd. So the child wouldn't get crushed. Inside note, it seemed like the family was passing through to get home or to the station. It's not like they were out partying for Halloween with their kid.
Starting point is 00:35:04 They get stuck in the crowd and they're screaming for help. He said that he saw the crowd working together to pass the child from the parents to a nearby business in the alleyway. So when the photographer made it back out alive, he went back to his hotel. He's so shaken up. I mean, he only had like three pictures in his camera roll that night
Starting point is 00:35:26 and all of them were before the tragedy and everyone just seems to be so happy just connecting with each other. And he said that his hands are shaking when his wife called him. They just had a baby, so she just gave birth recently. And she's calling from China and this is so heartbreaking. But she called and asked about his night and he said he came home because he just wasn't feeling it. He didn't want to tell her that he had witnessed one of the most horrific incidents of his entire life. He didn't tell her that he stood there watching people die next to him.
Starting point is 00:36:01 He said that he didn't want to worry his wife until he got home. Like, even during the most dramatic moments of these people's lives, even during a situation die next to him. He said that he didn't want to worry his wife until he got home. Like even during the most dramatic moments of these people's lives, even during a situation where his life or death, a lot of these people were still putting others first. A little girl had gotten lost in the crowd. She was separated from the adults that she had come with. She had momentarily fallen down, and she felt a man helping her regain balance.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And if he hadn't she'd likely would have been crushed to death. She didn't know his name, she didn't have the chance to thank him. Witnesses said that the man who helped her ended up getting stuck after he pulled her out and he ended up passing away. His name was Eji Han and his name might sound familiar but he was a 24 year old actor in South Korea. He was on a few different shows, and he was always known to be very, um, in Korean, it's called Mediokdukki, which means very charismatic. So he'd be on these shows, and he would laugh at these like reality shows, and he would always cover his mouth very shyly.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It just, he just felt like such a genuine person. And the most heartbreaking part about this is that he had just signed to star in a new NBC fantasy drama that would have been his breakout role. Like that would have been, that was the role he had been looking for, like his whole career. And he had what it took, he was good at his job, he was able to make people fall in love with these characters. He just wouldn't get the time. The little girl's parents expressed their gratitude and apologized to Edia and his
Starting point is 00:37:33 family for his act of courage. So all the while this is happening in the middle of the crowd, just to show you how chaotic this whole incident was. Some people at the top of the hill didn't even realize that there were people being trampled down at the bottom. Some of them didn't even realize how dire the situation was becoming. They were just excited to get down there and have fun. And we're going to talk more about this later, but there are online speculations that a group of people had caused the crowd surge and had started pushing people down. More on that later, but for now, at 11 p.m., 30 more ambulances were deployed to the scene,
Starting point is 00:38:05 as well as more personnel, more authorities, national disaster medical assistance teams, firefighters, policemen, they're all finally being dispatched to Itoan. Finally, at 1119, Halloween at Itoan was called off. 10 minutes to midnight, the fire department issued a stage 3 order, which is usually reserved for large-scale disasters. Is too late. I mean, first of all, they arrived a bit too late. I mean, even when the personnel got there, it's not like they could do much. They're just trying to resuscitate people. It was pure chaos.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Add to that, there were a ton of party goers who were wearing paramedic uniforms. They look like doctors, nurses, police, firefighters. The music is still blasting. I mean, it's hard to even decipher what the hell is going on, who to listen to, like, what's going on if chaos. And of course, the question is, if authorities had gotten there sooner, if the victims had been treated immediately, could they have been saved? I'm not a medical professional, but a lot of medical professionals online speculated that
Starting point is 00:39:02 yet, some of them, a lot of them could have been saved Usually after four to five minutes of enduring this level of pressure and lack of oxygen You start heading into severe brain damage territory So time is of the essence There were dozens of people if not hundreds of people just passed out on the road clearly injured There was that on one side of the road and on the other side There was a group of people who had no idea what was going on. I would say that there's a few different types of people that weren't a part of the crowd search. There's the ones
Starting point is 00:39:31 that were inside. So these are party goers that were inside bars, restaurants that weren't connected to the alleyway. They probably came outside and saw all hell break loose and they had no idea what's going on. Then you have groups of people in other parts of Etouon that hadn't seen what happened in the alleyway yet. So they don't know what's going on. Then you have groups of people in other parts of Itaewon that hadn't seen what happened in the alleyway yet. So they don't know what's going on. They're partying on the other side of Itaewon. They're living up their Halloween weekend. Then you have those who saw what's going on and they fled. They left. They were terrified. Then there were those who stayed and tried to help authorities with CPR. And then there were a group of people and I would
Starting point is 00:40:00 like to say this is the smallest group of people that saw what happened, heard people were dying and they continued to party. There's a viral clip of a bunch of people partying on the side of the street while ambulances and medical staff are performing CPR on the other side. Like in plain sight? Yeah. And this is the first clip I saw of Itawan on the night that it happened. You think these people know what's going on? A lot of people think they do. I would like to speculate that maybe they didn't know. In their defense, they said that there were a high number of
Starting point is 00:40:33 ambulances present, so maybe they just thought it was like a precautionary measure. But they were literally fist pumping to the song's on the beach. I mean, the visual impact has been a lot. So while ambulance lights are flickering around them, they're singing, dancing. And to make matters worse, it's that a lot of people were so busy filming the ambulances while partying. They were blocking the medical staff
Starting point is 00:40:57 from getting to the victims. Koreans could not for the life of them understand how that could have even happened. How could people be doing that? After the crowd search, the alleyway slowly starts getting cleared. And now we're just dealing with the aftermath. Trying to rush everyone to get medical attention, there were hundreds of people laying their motionless,
Starting point is 00:41:15 needing CPR and needing it fast. So Anna was originally from Spain, and she had come out to eat her one with her friends for Halloween night. She walked into the bar that night with her friends, people in costumes were laughing, taking pictures, I mean it was a great night. And then when she walked out, it was just like an apocalypse. She didn't even have time to take it all in. People start running up to her and her friends and they're like, do you know how to perform CPR? And it didn't know her friends did, so they're like, hurry, follow me.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Anna's friends run off without her. She's completely alone, just standing in front of this restaurant like confused. Three minutes later, her friends come back, and they're crying, and they're screaming. We try to save them. We just try to save like five or six people, but they died. Anna runs with them to go help more people,
Starting point is 00:42:02 and she said, I didn't know what I was doing. I just followed the others. They told me to hold these people's heads open their mouths and I tried But they all died The people we tried to help they had already stopped breathing. There was nothing we could do It was so traumatic It was total Pandemonium. I mean sirens and screams and cries Music is still blasting paramedics
Starting point is 00:42:27 or doing CPR in the middle of the road. Party goers are stopping and watching. Some of them are performing CPR. The only lighting is coming from the brightly colored neon lights of the bars and the ambulances. Random civilians started taking charge and administering CPR most likely to girlfriends, boyfriends, best friends, their sisters.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Like you see these people trying to get them to come back and it's just so desperate. A Pakistani nurse was visiting his brother that lives in Korea. They went to Aitau on just to see what Halloween was like in Korea. He ended up surviving and he helped with the CPR efforts that night. He performed CPR on roughly 15 to 30 people that night. Now, if you guys have performed CPR, it's physically incredibly taxing.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's not just like you're using your whole body. These people were drenched in sweat. He said that he worked all night long and he saw everyone working so hard. People didn't even know who anyone was. They're just doing everything they can to try and save some people. I just want you to listen. He is speaking Korean and he's saying, I'm a nurse. I know how to do this. But if you don't know Korean, you might not understand, but you hear people screaming in the background. And they're screaming, help me, help me. He pretty much works all into the night, and the next morning he got home with his brother,
Starting point is 00:43:53 and he said he couldn't even fall asleep, because all he heard with the screams of everyone's screaming, help me, help me. And he said even months later, he can't close his eyes without hearing people screaming, help me, help me. Also in the crowd, there was a college couple who were getting married in May of 2023. So in just a few months from when you're seeing this, they had been in the crowd
Starting point is 00:44:17 and the man did everything to try and protect his girlfriend. He tried to shield her body with his own body and he made sure that she didn't fall. But he ended up losing consciousness and the two were separated in the crowd He woke up medical staff are like, okay, we you need to go to the hospital right now He refused he rushed to find his girlfriend who was laying there just on the cold ground and he performed CPR for over an hour And she wouldn't come back And there's more on the CPR situation we need to talk about so most of the victims were women PR for over an hour. And she wouldn't come back.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And there's more on the CPR situation we need to talk about. So most of the victims were women, naturally due to height and smaller stature. Most of the victims who passed were women. The paramedics were going around, and they were unbuttoning their shirts, because that's how you do CPR.
Starting point is 00:45:02 It's easier for them to breathe. Apparently, this is very standard. What's not standard is some onlookers pulled out their phones and tried to record videos. The victims were being administered CPR in attempt to save their lives. Some people thought to film it for the internet because they were partially unclothed.
Starting point is 00:45:22 People were crying out loud, stop filming. Everyone stop, stop filming, just help. Their bottoms were uncovered, even their shoes were missing. A lot of Koreans were upset because for these victims, even in their last moments, it's like they were being robbed of their dignity. It was just a gut-wrenching feeling.
Starting point is 00:45:40 There were hundreds of people down in the ground at this point. Once the chaos was somewhat contained in terms of the chaos of the alleyway and the party goers were shuffled out, the victims were rushed to ambulances into the hospitals. But by this point, it's too late. Most of the bodies were laying on the side of the road with blankets covering them. Their bodies were being put on stretchers to be taken to the hospital, but there were no signs of life, really.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Most of the victims had already passed, but they had been left just on the road for more than an hour because there were too many victims that rescuers couldn't transport the mob to the hospital quickly enough. A Chinese student who was in Korea at the time, she was in one of the big bars of Ithewan, and she had no idea any of this was going on. She said she walked outside at 2 a.m. remember the crowds are just started happening around 1015. She walked out and she felt like the world had ended. Quite literally, she said that there were paramedics everywhere doing CPR on lifeless bodies, there were still sirens. She said, I saw rows of people covered with cloth blankets and I felt like I was confronted with corpses.
Starting point is 00:46:46 The first official death toll was issued by authorities at 2.30 in the morning. They stated 59 people had died and 150 people were injured. And hour later, the numbers rose to 120 people that were dead with 100 injured. And it would rise again. And side note about these injured, I know sometimes we hear these numbers and you're like, well, what does injured mean? Like, do they have small scratches? Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:47:10 I'm pretty sure it varies, but it's pretty bad. People had broken bones everywhere. Fractures, they were going to need surgeries, non-stop medical attention. A lot of the injuries were life changing. And if they weren't, they were really horrific. There was a Chinese survivor, let's call her Miss A. She said she barely survived the crowd surge. Even thinking about what happened that night, she feels like she's suffocating. She said she thinks it helped that she
Starting point is 00:47:33 was relatively tall compared to the other people in the crowd. But it just felt like hundreds and hundreds of pounds were pressing on her chest. She could barely stretch her neck up to breathe. She set her neck with cramp to one side and she couldn't move it back forward. She couldn't move it to the other side. Her neck was like perpetually stuck looking to her left. And she was forced to watch the girl on her left die. She suffocated and she couldn't even turn away because she didn't have room to move her neck. Soon after that she felt something strange on her back and she later't even turn away because she didn't have room to move her neck. Soon after that, she felt something strange on her back and she later realized that the person behind her
Starting point is 00:48:10 was throwing blood up on her. A lot of people actually vomited. A lot of the dead bodies were seen with vomit around their faces because when you suffocate to death, oftentimes you do vomit. She said that it was so tight, she couldn't even move her fingers and it felt like 300 people were just pushing her and her legs went numb for about an hour. She couldn't feel her legs. Eventually she was carried out by a firefighter to the roadside. She
Starting point is 00:48:37 was rushed to the hospital and she posted pictures of her injuries. Her legs look really bruised up. I mean thankfully she didn't have any broken bones like a lot of others. She said she still needs to get X-rays for her chest because it's been really hard for her to breathe, like it hurts when she takes a breath. Another survivor, Juliana. She's a 23-year-old student from Mexico who is studying in Seoul. She said she went with a friend to eat that one and as they were heading into the subway station to go home at 10 pm, the minute that they stepped into the alleyway, Juliana and her friend were separated.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It was pure chaos. She said it was like this uncontrollable force that was pushing her down. Her feet lifted from the ground and she couldn't go back, she couldn't go forward, whatever the crowd was moving in, whatever direction, that's where she was going. An unconscious person fell on top of Juliana and she said it was pure panic. She started hyperventilating, she had to calm herself down, she started blacking out, the noise of the crowd started feeling quieter and quieter and she couldn't feel her legs. She couldn't even move a single toe.
Starting point is 00:49:38 She said she started thinking, okay, yeah, I'm going to be next. It felt like she was just waiting for death. And somehow by some miracle, a young man standing on a high platform on the edge of the alleyway was able to wiggle her out and save her. She had been trapped like that for nearly 50 minutes. She said she looked around and there were dead bodies everywhere and she was severely shaken up, but she went home that night. And she thought it was just nerves, but the next day she had a crazy fever.
Starting point is 00:50:06 She was hospitalized and diagnosed with necrosis of her leg. Basically, when blood flow is cut off from a part of your body, the tissue start to die. In severe cases, this can be fatal. It's when your limbs literally start dying, and it can start spreading. Thankfully, she's recovering, but the pain is really bad. One of her legs is still very blue, very swollen. She can't walk properly. If she even breathes too hard or too fast, she feels immense chest pain. And these are just the physical injuries.
Starting point is 00:50:35 In the end, 159 people died in the Etawan Halloween tragedy, including the deaths of 26 foreign citizens from 14 different nations. The overwhelming majority were Korean citizens and women. 102 women and 57 men. 158 died from suffocation and one person later committed suicide. 196 people were physically injured. Physically, keep this in mind. That's not including mental, emotional, because the trauma that these survivors,
Starting point is 00:51:06 the first responders, the fire department, the trauma that this whole nation is gonna carry with them. I mean, the real number of those impacted and injured and the families of the victims whose lives are just never gonna be the same. Like, there's no way to put a definitive number on that. Like, it's hard to put a number on a whole nation's pain. So when news breaks of this, parents are glued to their phones.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And it sounds selfish to say, but many of them were probably thinking, I hate myself for thinking this, but please God, let it not be my kids. Many parents were alerted later on by officials that their child had passed away. And they didn't believe it, because I I mean just think about how shocking that is. How do you comprehend that your kids go out? They're going to be home relatively early.
Starting point is 00:51:51 They talk to you just an hour or two ago. Many of the kids were going out to eat with friends. One mother of a victim said, I didn't believe it until we got to the hospital. I didn't believe it until I saw my own sound with my own two eyes. And she said since then, her whole family has been broken. Her husband, the victim's father, has attempted suicide. And their daughter, who sees them in pain, she cries to them, it should have been me that died. It should have been me instead. Another mom rushed to the hospital only to see that her daughter had died.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And she said, it's truly devastating to identify your own child. When I go to bed, I can't get that picture out of my head, so I can't sleep anymore. The parents, they couldn't understand what had happened to her. So, they got her phone and they said at 9.35pm, their daughter was taking pictures smiling in a bar. Then at 10pm, she texted her friend that she was going to go home now. She was going to go to the Ito and station and go home. She took a couple more pictures smiling. And then on her way to the subway station, the crowds she got caught in the crowd surge and died.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Her friend who survived later said that they weren't even trying to use that alleyway to get to the station. It was so crowded up until that alleyway, it's like they got sucked into it like a vacuum. Her friend ended up surviving and she said it was so bad. She lost her shoes, her feet weren't even touching the ground. She was just being moved by the crowd. They got separated and her parents just, they look at these last pictures taken of her on her phone.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And her dad said, she's smiling. Look at her smile. Look at her face. And her mom would cry. She's my best friend. She's my best friend. A lot of parents gathered at a press conference. And you can hear them scream at one point,
Starting point is 00:53:45 take us and bring our kids back. Many of the parents are heard apologizing to their kids about what happened. And I can't even imagine the pain of the guilt that these parents are going to carry with the, just for the rest of their lives. I mean, I'm not saying that's a logical feeling. I'm not saying that they should feel guilty,
Starting point is 00:54:02 but that's how parents feel. One father found out at the hospital that both his daughter's arms had been broken before she passed away. And now all he can do is visit her at her resting place and he tells her, a baoasa, which means, dad is here, dad is here. He said, I should have taken more care of her. She was a precious daughter to us. There is said to have been over a ton, one ton in weight of items left behind
Starting point is 00:54:30 in the toe and tragedy, just belongings, mainly from the disease. So bags, clothes, just left in the alleyway, because they were getting ripped off and the shoes were falling off. There were 123 handbags, 258 pieces of clothing, and 256 pairs of shoes. They were all laid out in a gym and so are her. And parents and families were called to search for their belongings of their loved ones. And there's this heartbreaking moment where
Starting point is 00:54:59 our mother walks in and she recognizes her daughter's handbag. And like, just to see her reaction to seeing her daughter's bag is so heartbreaking. Like, I don't even have the words. At a press conference, another mom played a song that her son sent her. And at the end, he says in a voice memo, Emma, happy birthday. I love you.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And just seeing her break down as she listens to his voice again. By November 1st, the funeral homes in Seoul were overflowing. They were filled with bodies of young people who were just starting their lives. So many of them had just graduated high school. Some of them were just in college, or they had just graduated. I mean, this is like the beginning of their lives, and now they're gone.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Why would you break into these apartments? For money, for drugs, whatever was in them. Why aren't you afraid of getting caught at doing this? No. Who's going to catch us? What a police. It was the height of the crack era, and instead of locking up drug dealers, some New York City cops had become them. I would suit up in my uniform and we're going to want some drug dealers, and I know how to do it really well.
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Starting point is 00:56:48 In one funeral home, 28-year-old James Sim's body was put to rest, and in the room next door, his best friend, Yoon, was put to rest, and in the funeral home across town, his girlfriend was put to rest. All three of them had died that night. And the one thing that James' parents kept saying was, you know, our son loved to work out.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Like, he's been most of his free time in the gym. So how could that not have even saved him? And I think that just shows you, genuinely, the true dangers of a crowd search. It doesn't matter your fitness level, your physique. It's just that dangerous. The parents cried, James is like the best older brother out there.
Starting point is 00:57:23 How is our younger son ever gonna cope? A bunch of James's friends who didn't attend Eta one that night, they came to the funeral home and they all sat in silence, grieving for James. And when they were done, they couldn't go home, they couldn't lay down and cry themselves to sleep. They had to go to the next room over and grieve for their other friend, Yud. There were altars set up all around South Korea for mourners to pay their respect. A lot of flowers were brought, um, some with soju puddles were left for the victims. Many people bowed to the victims as a sign of ultimate respect.
Starting point is 00:57:58 As for the man who is breaking down talking about what good is a strong economy, I think there is a lot of trauma left over from the ferry incident in 2014, where over 300 people died, a majority of them young students. We're going to get into that in a second, but I think the whole nation kind of united in these moments, like the whole nation was so devastated by this. I mean, even here in the US, I didn't know a single Korean that did not feel immense sadness for what was going on. Many Koreans came out to hold up candles and
Starting point is 00:58:34 these memorials all over South Korea. It's estimated that over 100,000 people came out to grief, but slowly that sadness and that grief would turn to anger. Because it's like, okay, now we want some answers. So the first person that, not the families of the victims, the internet, went for were the so-called pushers. So there were words of survivors that sent chills down people's backs. A lot of survivors were interviewed and they said, we were all suffocating and from behind we could hear people screaming push, push, push. The survivor said that the crowd started feeling these pushes in different intervals. Like you are up against a massive wave, just being pushed, regaining balance, and then being
Starting point is 00:59:15 pushed again. There's a couple of videos where you can see, I guess, waves in the crowd if you can call it that. And it just seems like people are standing static and then they're being pushed in these wave-like motions. But the unsettling part was the survivors saying that a group of people were pushing the crowds on purpose. More and more survivors came out to confirm these stories
Starting point is 00:59:35 and they said, yes, there were a group of guys screaming push and they were pushing hard. One survivor said that they heard a guy say, ah, let's just all push kids, push, push, push. The survivors said they could see the crowd surge and they were all thrusting forward and a bunch of people started collapsing in front of them. A lot of survivors all seconded this story
Starting point is 00:59:57 and some even mentioned seeing a guy with a rabid headband being the leader of the pushers. They said that they heard him scream, go crazy kids, push. One survivor said about the rabid the pushers. They said that they heard him scream, go crazy kids, push. One survivor said about the rapid headband man. I really felt like I was in hell. People in front of me were crying for help. They said that they were dying and couldn't breathe.
Starting point is 01:00:14 People behind me were screaming and pushing and I was like, wow, this is what health feels like. My feet were lifted up from the ground. I couldn't breathe. Suddenly, someone grabbed me with their hand and I was crying. They had saved me. Like they shouted at me to make myself pull myself together. There were still people around us screaming, parting, singing.
Starting point is 01:00:32 It was so evil, it truly felt like hell. I saw people being crushed together and dying. If I ever see that person with the rabbit headband again, I would gladly stop them. Another witness said, I can't believe what had happened. I saw people laughing, I'm not sure if they found it funny or if they were too scared to know what to do. What's wild is that during this entire tragedy, there were people that were still parting, like I said.
Starting point is 01:00:55 A survivor from India, Nouvelle, said that it felt like waves were coming down on him. There was nothing you could do. It felt like you were being sucked in the crowd. And it's like the crowd has a mind of its own. The only reason he said he survived was a woman ironically wearing angel wings waved to him and he was able to find his way up to a high step in the alleyway. And from there he could see people dying.
Starting point is 01:01:17 He said there was so many of them there was nothing he could do. He felt so helpless. He tried to scan the crowd for his friends. He reached for his phone. Nobody picked up. The most heartbreaking part was that he saw this man on the side of the road afterwards, just tunnel vision, performing CPR on his friend, just going at it, not taking a moment to breathe for like 30 minutes. He had sweat dripping down, I mean, he himself was so out of breath like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:46 People tried to drag him away because everyone knew that his friend was gone. But he still went on for 30 minutes. And Neville said it was evil because he turned to the right and he saw a few people fixing their faces. Well, this was all happening as if nothing had happened. Another witness survivor said that they lost faith in all humanity that day. Now back to the pushers. People in the back felt like they could push their way through the alleyway and allegedly
Starting point is 01:02:13 some of them screamed, we need to push to get through. Some even said that the two Korean words push and go back. So you had half the group wanting to go back and then you had half the group wanting to push. It was just at odds and above the loud music the chaos of the screams. It was hard to hear what people were saying. So Mita means push. Mita and then Tito, Tito means back. So Mita, Tito, Mita, Tito. It's confusing. Yeah, so with the music, maybe it was confusing. So netizens took their jobs as internet
Starting point is 01:02:45 slew seriously. They were able to find out who the rabbit had banned Guy was. They tracked him down online, they start leaving him comments, messages telling him, you better turn yourself into the police because you are the killer, you're the cause of this tragedy. It looked like they weren't going to stop until he was taken down. The rabbit hadband man went on to Instagram to state that he and his friends were being hunted down and he said, yes, that's me in the rabbit hand headband in the pictures. But my friends and I had already left Eto and station when the crowdsurge happened, so we were not the ones pushing. Like maybe there's another guy with the rabbit headband but it's not me.
Starting point is 01:03:20 He posted his subway ticket to show proof and it showed that he did and he leave Eto and station at 9.55 pm. The police were also able to confirm that he was not an Itoan at the time of the crowd search, and he wasn't found responsible for the pushing. There were other rumors of a guy that went around pouring oil on the ground so that people would slip and fall. What? Those were later proven to be false.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But the witch hunt didn't end there. I mean, I think people were just looking for someone to blame. A lot of angry netizens were looking for just anyone. Even journalists started to blame people. I think they were just looking for provocative stories. So they start blaming a very popular live streamer. Let's call him K. Netizens speculated that K was the reason for the crowd surge
Starting point is 01:04:00 because he streamed that he was in Itawan and all of his viewers swarmed to see him causing an influx of the traffic. So they were like, it's his fault for telling so recklessly, telling his viewers that he was in Itawan. And then he was like, no, I happen to be in Itawan and I couldn't leave the bar because they're so dangerous. In the same breath, another celebrity was being blamed. Uain, he lives in Itawan and everyone speculated that he went out and people started spotting
Starting point is 01:04:27 him outside and that's why they flock to Itawan. But in this case, Mr. Yu's agency came out to say that he wasn't even in South Korea at the time of the tragedy. So it genuinely just seemed like people were going out to blame one individual, they were just trying to find someone. But that was proving to be very difficult. So briefly, the public, the netizens, the journalists, they start blaming the businesses.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They start turning their attention on the businesses. They said, you guys didn't help out with the crowd search. The businesses in the alleyway could have saved people, prevented the crowd search. That's what they're saying. Now, a lot of this rumor comes from the fact that a bar, YKKBAR was seen closing their doors and not letting victims in.
Starting point is 01:05:06 But one of the owners and the employees have come out and said, basically in the beginning, when the crowds are just happening and people were running in, we didn't know what was going on. We thought they were drunk. We thought they were drunk and like having a blast and like screaming and like running into the,
Starting point is 01:05:20 so we closed the doors, I mean, a strange. But when we realized what was happening in the alleyway, we opened our doors, we let people in, we all started doing CPR. But it didn't matter because netizens were going crazy. They flooded the store owners with really nasty messages. Employees from the Waikiki bar said, I will never forget the look of the eyes of someone I performed CPR on. He also stated that there was a distinct smell that started coming from the crowd surge,
Starting point is 01:05:46 and he'll never forget it. He said, my heartbeat so much that I have to take sedatives every day. No matter how much I drink, I can't fall asleep. I just keep thinking about the look in their eyes. The police even fueled this rumor that it was the business's fault by stating businesses specifically told the police to ease up on police presence this year, because these businesses wanted people to party so that they could make more money, which personally, what? The business owners would later state, no, we didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And even if we did, what are you saying? You know, what you're really just going to listen to us? Like when have you guys ever listened to business owners? And we're like, you know what? You're right. Let me just not show up. And side note, the businesses in ETA1, they're not doing well.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Even months after the tragedy, a lot of them are drowning and dead. I mean, ETA1 has kind of become more of a ghost town these days. People said it just feels wrong to go there and have fun. And this is literally a city that was known for its like fun life, like bars, restaurants, shopping, these activities. They said they're all suffering. Some business owners said, you know, it's been rough. We were hit with COVID. And then when finally things
Starting point is 01:06:55 opened up again, now no one comes to eat them on. And not only that, but we had to live through that night trying to save people and being traumatized. So a lot of these business owners, these employees, they have a lot of trauma from the incident. They're emotionally, mentally, scarred and adds to that their financial pressures. A business owner said, there's no sales. Like, no, not even one throughout the day. So it was clear that the businesses were not to blame. So since individuals and attendants, the businesses, they couldn't be blamed. The internet started making it very political.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Now, this is very intense, and like this, when you start going into the whole Itoan story, there's so many layers to it. I mean, you think it's just first police planning, the city planning isn't good, and then it just gets very crazy. So October 29th, earlier in the day, there were these protests throughout Seoul.
Starting point is 01:07:44 A lot of it happening in Yongsan, which is the province that Ithewan is inside of, inside of Seoul. Now, there were protests everywhere, and they were like labor unions protesting. They were close to Ithewan. There were reports of 18 different rallies and protesting in place the day of October 29th, and they were big. Like about 30,000 people were out protesting. Now, the right wing individuals are trying to blame the left wing. So the labor unions, they're typically associated
Starting point is 01:08:11 with the left wing. And basically, they said, because of these protests, police had to be dispersed throughout the province and they used up all the manpower, making sure that the protests were contained and nobody got hurt during the protests, that they didn't have any more resources for the Halloween weekend. But the left-wing groups fought back for that reasoning, and they said, no, it's dumb
Starting point is 01:08:30 to even draw these conclusions. So on the weekends, nobody should protest. And the current president, President Yoon, he's a conservative. And we've talked about him before on the Stephanie Sue channel. He's made some very controversial moves, such as moving out of the blue house, basically leaving the White House to live somewhere else, and that somewhere else is in Young's Hun, which is the province that Ithewan is in. And that's going to suck up a lot of resources, especially with the police department, because there was a set protocol in place when the president was in the blue house. And now they're adding just a lot more chaos,
Starting point is 01:09:01 I guess. It's speculated that 700 police officers were busy commuting to and from the president's new residence. Basically, people on the left were saying because the conservative president unnecessarily moved, the young's and police were too busy accommodating his new residence and keeping him safe, they didn't have enough manpower to protect the civilians and eat Taiwan that weekend. A lot of people were calling on him to step down the president, but the conservatives were arguing with them, and the whole thing just got super political.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Now, to be fair, Koreans had a lot of other things that they were mad at the government for. The most recent tragedy of this howard boat sinking in 2014, 306 people, majority of them students died when a fairy sink off the southwest coast of the country. Government response was really bad. Like, the president was shifting blame. It was just really gross. The government focused on their image rather than prioritizing lives.
Starting point is 01:09:55 So as the boat was sinking, and in the key moments where lives could have been saved, the government straight up refused help from other countries, because they would look bad on them. They tried to downplay the severity of the event. I mean, it was so gross. So a lot of people with that trauma lingering in literally every Korean's minds, a lot of people are like, wait a minute, the government should be the one responsible.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Everyone pays taxes in Korea. That's what the police are supposed to do. I mean, it's like that in the US. If there's a big concern in the area, if there's a big game, police have meetings about it. There's a protocol. There's a coordinated strategy. Like these are the departments that are responsible
Starting point is 01:10:34 for making sure that everyone is safe, even if it's not like a police event. Like you have a big concern, police are gonna be involved. And it's not just like the secretly planned event. Someone said, I mean, everyone knew what was gonna happen to anyone. Like, people were gonna party.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Someone said the government is responsible for such organized events. They should have planned ahead, they should have sent out enough police, they should have evacuated people accordingly, they should have controlled the crowds. I mean, even the signs were so clear. Like, even as the night progressed,
Starting point is 01:11:03 you didn't have to be an ET1 to know that it was getting overcrowded. Even the subway stations were jam packed, everyone was swarming to Itaewon station. And basically they all would all travel to that tight alleyway to get to their destinations. The government response was just really bad. The Korean Premier Minister Han DoxKsu was doing an international press conference about the incident. Due to technical issues, he couldn't hear the translator properly asking a question. So he smiles and he said, who is responsible for me not hearing the interpreter? It's just really distasteful. The kids attitude is energy. It was very, what
Starting point is 01:11:42 are you doing? A lot of netizens wrote, I can't believe what I just heard. Like, is he being sarcastic right now? Like, this is crazy. Is this the time or place to be cracking these cute little jokes? Like, how can you even smile and laugh in this situation? The next day, he apologized. But it gets worse. Do you remember the 16 year old high school
Starting point is 01:11:59 in the beginning of the episode who took his own life? Because he lost his friends in the deadly tragedy? Well, the premier minister basically told the press that that victim should have been more committed to getting mental health treatment. He said, the basic preventative measure that the government can take is this, but the victims themselves need to want to receive treatment. They need to be persistent. Only then can the government support them.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah, well, you can just see how that went over. And finally, with enough pressure, the South Korean government decided to list the high school or as a victim of the Etoan tragedy. The government originally did not want to add the 16 year old who committed it into the death toll. The government didn't know, because it gets super technical, but the families of the victims could be able
Starting point is 01:12:43 to receive some government assistance when it comes to mental health help and funeral costs. So I think for the parents, they wanted him to be listed as a victim of the tragedy, not for the money, but because he was. This is why he died. If that incident didn't have happened, he wouldn't have taken his life. It's pretty straightforward.
Starting point is 01:13:00 So, yes, he is a victim of the Ethiopian tragedy. But you can see how the government had incentive to not have him listed. They didn't want to raise the death toll. They most likely didn't want to acknowledge the level of trauma that the incident would cause to the survivors to everyone. So after the government's response, the president also said his condolences, but it was just very... And again, this has nothing to do with like political parties or who the president is or what he stands for, but I just think in any situation like this, it's just a very lukewarm response.
Starting point is 01:13:31 It was very PR. So, after the government response, parents of the victims, they weren't happy. One of them said, this is a PR response. They should show us that they're working hard to prevent things like this from ever happening again. Like, we need to know what's being implemented so it doesn't take place. Another victim's mother was so angry.
Starting point is 01:13:49 She tore up the condolence reads that were gifted to her by the president in the mayor of Seoul. She said, the government failed to protect the children. Flowers are useless. Do you remember Yezun, she dressed up as Princess Jasmine in the beginning of the story. Her dad visits her every day. She was his only child, she was his whole life, and he said in another interview, children
Starting point is 01:14:12 who lose their parents or orphans. But there is no word for parents who lose their children. But I think I found one. Sinner. I feel so guilty for losing her. And he's mad. He's angry. He said the government is trying to give them money for funeral costs, which the funeral costs were said to have been about $11,000 a victim and medical attention, medical help, I think $7,000 in medical help for the survivors.
Starting point is 01:14:39 And he said, we can live without the money. We can't live without our daughter. This is not the way to help us right now. This is not how you help the grieving parents and families. They're not taking accountability. They're just all shifting the blame to everybody else. And as a parent, it fuels me with rage. He said, if we get a proper apology and see those responsible punished,
Starting point is 01:14:58 it would reduce my anger maybe one tenth of a thousand, but at least a little bit. All the families want is a government apology, an honest investigation into how things happened. Many of the parents agree that this is murder. Murdered by a lack of organization, murdered by omission. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Like, they anticipated many people were gonna be there for Halloween. They had a meeting. The government had a meeting about how it was estimated that a hundred thousand people were gonna gather and eat though on. And they didn't prepare for it. A parent shook their head and said, The government had a meeting about how it was estimated that 100,000 people were going to gather in Ithewan. And they didn't prepare for it. A parent shook their head and said,
Starting point is 01:15:29 I don't understand that. I don't get it. I just don't get it. Many of the parents were also saddened by the public reaction. One said, did the kids all go to heaven simply because they went out to have a good time? I don't think that's right. Because a lot of people make it seem like these kids wanted to have fun so they had to pay the price. But that's not what happened here. Another person weighed in, the government always talks about how they can't prevent an accident like this from happening, but now
Starting point is 01:15:56 now they need to come up with practical measures to make sure it never happens again. Yeah, the parents are angry. And I think another good place for that anger is with the police and the police chief of the Young's Hand Department. Because what the hell is going on with the police? It's that the police initially planned for 200 police officers to be at Itawan for Halloween. But that night, only 137 officers were on duty in the area. Which even 200 doesn't sound like a lot, because the words Halloween and itaewon were trending on so many different social media platforms, YouTubers, streamers,
Starting point is 01:16:30 they were all telling their viewers that they were going to be in itaewon. A lot of people were drawing attention to itaewon's Halloween festivities. It wasn't like this, oh my god, I'm so shocked so many people showed up. There were so many phone calls made to the police alerting them of the dangerous situation unfolding. It said that from 6 to 8 p.m., 28 reports were made about the overcrowding situation. From 8 to 10 p.m., 51 reports were made. And right before the accident, another 79 reports were made.
Starting point is 01:17:03 And during all these reports, I came before the incident. This is not even including during the incident when people were collapsing. Only four police officers were actually dispatched to the scene. And I don't know if they did anything. Like maybe they told their superiors that something bad was happening in the superiors
Starting point is 01:17:20 and in care, I don't know. Maybe they didn't think anything was happening. And the first reports came in four hours before the actual tragedy. One survivor said, it would have been nice if there were policemen trying to maintain order, but there was not a single police officer in the beginning that I saw. And once the accident happened, it was hard for them to enter the scene and help. So after the tragedy, there was an investigation into the police. And an official said, oh, those reports coming in, there was an investigation into the police, and an official said,
Starting point is 01:17:45 oh, those reports coming in, there were just general reports about inconveniences that residents had. So, police chief of the Youngshan Police Department, Iimde, he was investigated, and wow, okay, so the day of the incident, when the reports of the dangerous conditions were coming in, the police chief decides that he's gonna End up going back to the police station, but instead of walking there Which would have been a 10 minute walk. He decides he's gonna drive to the police station And it would take him nearly an hour to drive to the police station in critical moments because he don't want to walk
Starting point is 01:18:20 Then when he gets to the station he goes up onto the rooftop to check it out ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ were able to piece it together and also side note the president of South Korea called this man personally and he didn't pick up. So let me walk you through that day that he really didn't want you to know about. He claimed he arrived at the scene at 10-17pm and he took charge immediately in saving lives. But instead what really happened was he was overseeing a rally, a protest that was happening near the president's office in Yongsan. That ended around 8.30 pm. He went to a local restaurant nearby for a dinner with other officers at 9.24 pm. He received the first really bad reports about the crowd situation. So other subordinates at the police station disregarded all the other prayer phone calls. At 9.30, they were like, maybe we
Starting point is 01:19:23 should tell the chief. So he gets to the restaurant 9.24. At 9.30, they were like, maybe we should tell the chief. Wow. So he gets to the restaurant at 9.24. At 9.30, he gets it. What do you think he would do? He continues his dinner. He continues his dinner. He eats Han Long Tang, leisurely for about 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:19:36 He goes to his car at 9.47 pm and he drives to the police station to respond to this. Now, this is what's insane. From that Han Long Tang restaurant to the police station to respond to this. Now this is what's insane. From that Hong Kong restaurant to the police station would take him 10 minutes to walk. He chose to sit in traffic for an hour because he wanted to drive. He got to the police station at 10.55 pm.
Starting point is 01:19:58 It took him an hour to go half a mile. It could have been a 10 minute walk. And then he's seen on CCTV walking from his car to the police station. And if you see him walking, he has his hands behind his back as if he's leisurely strolling around while people are dying. It's seen not behind bars. Oh, he is now. Yeah. So, yeah, that's his urgency level. He gets to the police station, goes to the roof, to check out the situation. Later, he tried to lie to Parliament
Starting point is 01:20:27 and said that he requested additional safety task forces for Halloween, but he was rejected twice. He said he requested, they kept saying no, so he had to make do with the amount of officers that he had. This was a complete lie. He never requested extra security forces. Actually, a police officer for the Young's
Starting point is 01:20:43 and police department reported that he told superiors that they need to look into crowd safety extracurricular forces. Actually, a police officer for the Youngsan Police Department reported that he told superiors that they need to look into crowd safety and deploy officers for Halloween weekend. But his superiors told him, and I quote, focus on the large-scale rally near the president's office that night instead. And just to expand on that, at the time, 1100 police officers were near the presidential office in Youngsan.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And the same day, 4700 highly trained crowd control officers were near the president's office. They were tasked by the administration to monitor anti-government protesters. None of them were sent to Itawan. So it left only 137 officers for Itawan, and only 137 of them. That's literally nothing. No officers out of the 137 officers for Ithewan and only 137 of them, that's literally nothing. No officers out of the 137, no officer was in charge of maintaining security and safety. Like there was no game plan, there was no thought out strategy. These 137 officers didn't even seem to be working in unison to make sure everyone stayed safe. In fact, these officers were told their main focus for the night should be
Starting point is 01:21:45 on cracking down on drug usage in Ithewan. Police chief Imje was arrested December 23rd of 2022, so not too long ago. He is still being investigated. Two other officers were immediately arrested because allegedly, they told their subordinates to destroy internal reports about the phone calls that were being made to warn the police about the crowds. And as of January 13th of this year, there have been 23 people that were indicted. Half of them are police officers. Most of them are accused of contributing to the death toll through negligence or even
Starting point is 01:22:17 trying to destroy official documents that might include criminal evidence. Out of that group, the highest ranking official so far is the chief of these whole metropolitan police. So EMJ is just the young son, the province, but the actual whole police chief was arrested as well. There's still a lot of questions though, like why wasn't the subway blocked? That's a huge point of contention. So normally the Korean government will block the subway stations and typically it's done through the police. The police will tell the Metro Department to skip a station during big events. So, ittoan was becoming overly crowded so the first thing that they should do is make sure nobody stops at ittoan anymore. It just bypasses ittoan, right? You would think that's the next step, but the subway station wasn't blocked.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Which we know is super important because of the location of the Itoan station with the alleyway and how the tragedy unfolded so why wasn't it closed. There are two sides to this, the police aside and the transportation side. Completely different government departments. The police said, oh yeah, we asked the Ethan station to stop, like we asked for this station to be skipped, to help disperse the crowd when things started amping up. We even asked if the subways could give people free tickets out of Ethan one. So really helped them out, right? So we could control the crowds better. But our requests were denied. Twice. The Metro department came out and is like, no, that's not how it happened, that's not true at all. The police were only asking us, how do we make requests for free stops for people?
Starting point is 01:23:49 Like free exits for people. It was like a nonchalant question, so we answered it with our usual response of like, this is the official format on how to do it. They weren't even telling them like, this is an emergency. The Metro said that they can't control it on their own, even if passengers were like, you need to like skip this stop, they can't do it because it takes a lot of civilian guidance and movement. So the police need to be at the station guiding people on what to do.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Like the train can't just be like, anyway, we're deciding to skip. Because then it's going to cause like a surge somewhere else. Like it's a whole thing. Side note, another arrest was made. The Chief of the Fire Department was investigated. His name is Chasung-Bum. The police stated the police. Okay. They stated that the Chief of the Fire Department Choi did not respond properly to the scene, which is rich coming from them. But I guess there was maybe some valid criticism. So the first ambulance at the scene was
Starting point is 01:24:42 actually sent from a different province. So they're like, explain yourself. That's what the police are saying. But nobody liked this take. Like, not the netizens. Like, really nobody. So fire chief Troy was there at the site. He was the control tower. He was guiding police officers for the firefighters. He was managing the chaos to the best of his ability. And I'm sure there is a lot of critique out there about maybe it wasn't the best managed, but he did seem to try. The police claimed that the incident was further escalated because the fire chief's support management of the disaster.
Starting point is 01:25:14 It just really seems like they were trying to point fingers if I'm being honest with you. Even the prosecutors, basically the DAs were like, no, let the fire chief go. And the firefighters came together to support him. They did not believe that this was the right decision. It felt like the government was using their chief as a scapegoat. Even most netizens and Korean citizens did not agree with this, because I do think that there is always a level of distrust with police, but with the firefighters, they were truly acting as first responders.
Starting point is 01:25:43 It wasn't even in their plans. Like they weren't necessarily the most responsible for making sure that the crop surge didn't even happen in the first place. That falls on the police. So they came in afterwards to help. A lot of firefighters spoke up and said, we gave our everything at the scene. And it wasn't enough. But we gave it all.
Starting point is 01:26:02 They said that they watched through the body cam footage to learn and to see what they could do better. And one firefighter said, one thing I noticed is that there was in a single moment where any of my colleagues, not a single moment where we were walking. And I think that's supposed to call upon the chief of the police for his nonchalant attitude while the tragedy was taking place. And that's where we are.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Like it's crazy that there's no end right now. Like, there's no, okay, guys, and maybe we can all sleep better at night because this is what's being done. Like, that's just where we are. It's so much more impactful to hear these personal stories because it just sounds like a crazy story, but to hear individually, every person,
Starting point is 01:26:44 how this is impacting them is, I don't know, it just brings so much realness into this. And I know a lot of people were focusing on the people partying and screaming on the beach and stuff, but just hearing how all these regular civilians, the way that they were trying to save each other, like, I think the one thing that we should try to remember is
Starting point is 01:27:07 the new cycle moves so fast. And I just hope that the parents, the family, is like they get the answers that they deserve. One quote from the parents really stands out to me, which is, please serve our kids justice on their way to heaven. And there's a sign that was put up around its hole everywhere. And it says, please don't forget about us. About it. That is it for today's main episode. This wasn't even supposed to be like a video episode, but I just really wanted you guys to see and hear from the families of the victims. But please stay safe. And I will see you guys on Sunday for the mini-sode. Bye!

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