Rotten Mango - #249: The “K-Pop Serial Killer” - “Handsome” Killer Stirs Online Discourse & Shocks South Korea

Episode Date: April 2, 2023

Lee’s girlfriend had just moved in with him. It was perfect; Christmas of 2022 was just around the corner, and he was the perfect gift to her life. Lee, was attentive, caring, compassionate, and the perfect boyfriend. He even had 3 adorable cats that she grew attached to. While Lee was out running errands, she started unpacking, and realized she needed to feed one of those cats. She searched everywhere for the bag of cat food, nowhere in the kitchen or pantry. She found herself staring at the open hallway storage closet. She was just looking for cat food. But she had stumbled across a dead body. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rambles. Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are, whenever we need it, download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier, or pay to description starting at 12.99 per month. This is a really creepy story, and it's just unfolding in South Korea right now, and it's

all kind of revolving around a pair of shoes. There were a pair of woman shoes that seemed to be pretty hard to get. It's not like they're limited or super popular, but only 12 boutiques in all of South Korea sold this particular woman's shoe. Maybe this was even like a selling point for the buyers. Maybe they felt like there were all in this exclusive club because only 12 boutiques sell this shoe, right? It seemed like a good purchase. Until every single one of those women, they get a phone call from the police, regarding those very shoes. And it was strange, the police called and asked, oh, hi, is this so-and-so?

Did you buy the shoes at this blank boutique? The woman are like, yeah, how did you know where I bought it? And I'm sorry, why are the police calling about a pair of heels? Like, am I in trouble right now? The police told the woman, no, you're not in trouble. We're just investigating a case and we need to make sure that you're alive and well.

Okay, that is so strange. These same women would later turn on the news and find out that the police were investigating a serial killer and that killer had a pair of these exact shoes in his apartment and the police suspected it belonged to a victim. The police also found a dead body shoved and locked into his apartment closet. Most of the women who own these shoes, they probably had no direct connection with this alleged serial killer. They probably had never even crossed paths,

but something about that, I don't know. It's just so freaky. Like a lot of people have been talking about this in South Korea because it would freak me out too. I don't know. It's just so freaky. Like a lot of people have been talking about this in South Korea because it would freak me out too. I don't know if I could ever even wear those same shoes ever again. Could you? Let's talk about South Korea's newest alleged serial killer. He was just arrested Christmas day of last year.

So a few months ago, this is currently unfolding as we speak. It's such a very recent case and the killer, the alleged serial killer, it's just bizarre. It's not even the fact that this is South Korea's newest serial killer case in the past 20 years. I don't think that they have arrested a serial killer since 2004. So that's part of it, but the case itself is so bizarre. Bizarre. Full show notes are available at Rodminglepodcast.com, but let's get into it. Like I said, it's unfolding as we speak, so there's going to be updates.

Let me know if you guys want me to cover those, but I'm just going to walk you through the case in the order of how the case unfolded in Korea. And it all starts with cats. Yeah, I know. Okay. Every serial killer story seems to come back to freaking cats, but this one's a little bit different. Every serial killer story seems to come back to freaking cats with this one's a little bit different The story doesn't start with a guy who's in his teenage years

Torturing and skinning cats, although if news comes out that he did do this I wouldn't be too surprised but the story starts with the alleged serial killer Lee Ki-young So in Korean Ygg-young, there's actually a Korean actor by that same name So that was the whole thing when he was arrested But um, we're gonna call him Lee Lee's girlfriend is trying to feed Lee's cats We're gonna call her Tara. So she's chosen to remain anonymous in the media There's a bunch of pseudonyms out there for her, but Tara it is December 25th

2022 Christmas day. It was really cold in Korea. This Christmas day. I think it had a low of 14 degrees Fahrenheit So very cold. I think everyone was just trying to Korea. This Christmas day, I think it had a low of 14 degrees Fahrenheit, so very cold. I think everyone was just trying to get into that Christmas spirit regardless. Tara had just moved in with this boyfriend, like just moved into his apartment, and it's in the greater's whole area in a place called Pagul. And for her at least, for Tara at least,

this Christmas was a good Christmas. It was gonna be one of the better Christmas's. She probably had reservations about moving in so quickly with the guy that she's been dating for what, three, four months. So technically in Korean standards, they're moving really, really fast. But Iggyong is responsible.

He's 31 years old. He's also kind of a catch. He had his life together, which, by the way, he comes from a wealthy family. So I don't know how much terror could attribute his financial stability as hard work But still it doesn't hurt. It's something right and from Tara's perspective He's conventionally very attractive to the point where when this case breaks he will be dubbed the K-pop killer What why? Yeah, he looks like a K-pop star. Yeah

Yeah, it's really really weird. Okay, so he's gonna looks like a K-pop star? Yeah, yeah. It's really, really weird. Okay, so he's gonna be dubbed the K-pop killer, but from Tara's perspective, he's conventionally attractive and he just wants to settle down. That's what he keeps telling her. I just want to meet a nice girl and settle down. So the stability in the relationship was comforting. Maybe even refreshing, right?

He treated her really well, just showering her with gifts, taking her out to see the city, staying at these fancy hotels, he spoiled her. So all of that is to say they're moving really fast, but he was a good pick. None of her family members, none of her friends were like, oh, this guy is weird. You need to watch out like this guy's moving too quick, red flag. They all thought that he was a really good person. So anyway, she's home alone in her new place, her boyfriend's apartment, that she just

moved into. So she's probably unpacking and organizing and she realizes how my freaking God. The freaking cats. Okay, so we have three cats and a dog. And she's like, I gotta feed these cats. So she heads over to the kitchen and she opens a cupboard, a little cabinet, no cat food. Another one, no cat food. She's like, where does he keep this cat food?

Why is it nowhere in the kitchen that's weird? She heads to the pantry area, no freaking cat food. I mean, does this cat eat human food? So she's thinking, what the hell? What are these cats even eating? She starts looking everywhere in the apartment for the damn cat food. And she's like, okay, I gotta think like a man.

Where would I put the cat food? There's this little hallway, the little corridor type of area in his apartment where it seems like he just puts a lot of storage. That makes sense if he had put the cat food there, right? So she spots this closet at the far end of the hallway and she starts walking closer. She's like, okay, maybe he put the cat food in the closet.

From the get go, this closet is a horror movie level closet. It's one of those wardrobes and it has two doors. And the door handles are tied together with rope. Hmm. That's not normal. I don't remember the last time I've been to a house that did that. Now, I don't know what made her open the closet doors.

Maybe she thought he'd tied it up with rope because the cats are crafty and they were able to constantly find a way into their food. That was something I was thinking. Or I don't know, maybe as a girlfriend I'd be like, what is this man hiding? Is there some other girl's stuff in here? I want to know. And I'm sure the thought of calling him and asking him, like, hey babe, where's the cat food? I'm sure it crossed her mind. But she was like, you know what, why don't I

just open this closet? So she manages to undo all the rope, swings open the doors. And it's literally, I don't know how to describe it, but just straight out of one of those reddit no sleep stories. She nearly falls over backwards from shock, and honestly from the smell. She couldn't even think or move, she was terrified. There in the closet was the decomposing corpse of a man, in the closet of her boyfriend's apartment that she had just moved into was a dead body. I'm not sure if she knew when Iggy Young was coming home or what, because I imagine after opening those closet doors,

I'd be so terrified of him coming home and catching me just staring into this closet, like finding out that I knew his secret, like I don't know what he would have done. Tara does respond very quickly. She was frozen in fear for maybe a few seconds. She said it felt like eternity. But she snapped out of it, run straight to the couch, dives for her phone, and calls 112, the Korean emergency line. The operator picks up, and the first words out of her mouth, as she remains very calm.

She says, there's a body in my boyfriend's closet. The police soon arrive at the scene, and this is how the case of South Korea's most recent serial killers was blown wide open. Well, alleged serial killer, but you'll see where I'm going. The police arrive at the scene, and the first step other than detaining Yiyong is to identify the man in the closet. The dead body.

At this point, they don't know yet that Yiyong is a serial killer. They just know that he most likely killed someone because there's a dead body in his hallway closet, and the body was very quickly identified to be that of Mr. T. So his real name is not available for the public and has been redacted from documents for privacy reasons, but Mr. T, because what we do know about the guy is that he was a taxi driver. So Mr. T, he lived in a neighboring city and he was in his 60s. Yeah, so originally it's weird to draw the connection, like it doesn't even seem like the same circle of friends.

Why is the 60 year old in this 31 year old's closet? It's not his dad, it's not a family member, what's going on? He was reported, Mr. T was reported missing just a few hours ago, Christmas morning. What? Mr. T's son walked into the police station and begged them to find his father. The police were a little bit hesitant about this case, this missing person's case because, sure, Mr. T hadn't come home in five days and the family was going crazy looking for him, but he was still texting the family back.

Wow, okay. And the son is trying to tell the police, that's not my dad texting us, like, trust me, I know the way that my dad the police that's not my dad texting us like trust me. I know the way that my dad texts That's not my dad It seems to be concluded by the media that since Mr. T went missing and maybe the stage of decomposition matched Mr. T was probably killed five days ago On December 20th they asked Tara What was Iggy Young your boyfriend doing on December 20th?

And how has he been acting for the past few days? Tara's like December 20th and how has he been acting for the past few days? Tara's like December 20th, are you sure? My boyfriend went out to dinner with me and my parents that night. On December 20th, it was a good dinner. I was really happy about the dinner. Um, Lee proved to be very charming with my parents. They really liked him. They believed he was the right guy for me and he was the type that would take care of me. Wait, I'm sorry, you said he killed him on December 20th. that doesn't make sense. She was also asked about his behavior at the past few days and she said,

no, absolutely nothing about his behavior since that night seemed abnormal in any way. In fact, he was probably more upbeat than usual because Christmas was just right around the corner. I don't know if this was automatically chilling for Tara, but for the police it was, because if someone kills another human being, and for the next five days,

they feel comfortable moving their girlfriend in into the apartment where they have a corpse rotting in the closet. They feel comfortable enough to leave her alone outside apartment to explore and potentially discover that said corpse. But also, this person is showing zero signs of distress or panic after committing a murder.

Yeah. That doesn't sound like a first time murder, even for a developing serial killer. Also, this person is showing zero signs of distress or panic after committing a murder. That doesn't sound like a first time murder even for a developing serial killer. Exactly. Meaning there's probably more victims, right? So the police rushed to track down Iggyong and they detained him. And what's really frustrating about this case is that starting now, it feels like Iggyong is just toying with the police. He starts dropping little Easter eggs for the police to pick up on. And some of the Easter eggs are real evidence.

So when he was detained, he would just hear it take me. Oh, yeah, so calm. He wasn't even like, I didn't do it. He's just like, oh, go ahead. Let me go in. He sits down. He's like, yeah, okay. So let's talk about it. You're talking about the taxi driver, right? Some of the Easter eggs he's dropping, they're evidence, some are nothing. Some are just straight up egg shells. Like he's sending them on wild goose chases starting now, so it's just going to be very invigorating. And it feels like the police have to peel back the layers of this rotten onion, just layer by layer, and even try to figure out who the hell this guy is.

Nobody knows who this guy is. And it's weird because imagine you're sitting in front of someone. You have their documents, you have their ID, you have everything, but not a single person that you talk to actually knows who this guy is. Like who the hell is this guy? So it's really creepy. Lee was incredibly calm when he was brought in. The investigators tried all sorts of tactics with him,

but he just didn't even break a sweat. He told them bluntly, the taxi driver? Yeah, he killed him. I did. But I didn't want to kill him. It was a spur of the moment decision. A crime of passion, if you will. I was just very angry.

He went on to tell them what happened the night of December 20th. So the night that he went out to meet Tara and her family during dinner, and some of his story was confirmed by CCTV from the restaurant and the street cameras. There's a lot of CCTV in Korea. But other parts were clearly lies. We'll get into that later.

Lee said that he went out to dinner with Tara's family and he started drinking soju. That's like a thing. You gotta make a good impression so he's drinking shot after shot. And you can see that on CCTV. Like he was just chugging these drinks. He took multiple shots of soju, getting drunk.

Tara's parents still really like the guy. So I guess he's not acting super intoxicated. But the problem was, the dinner ends at around 11 p.m. and now Lee has to drive a few towns over to get back home to Pagul. CCTV catches Lee saying buy to Tara and her family and start making his way to his parked car. If you listen to the last episode, there was a service in South Korea called Tidunjun. It's very common and it's rather affordable It's like getting a regular Uber where you call a driver to drive your car home for you and you write as a passenger So that the next morning when you wake up hung over your car is in the parking lot for some reason Lee did not want to do that. He wanted to drive all the way home

Which is even stupider when you find out the fact that Lee wasn't supposed to be driving in the first place which is even stupider. When you find out the fact that Lee wasn't supposed to be driving in the first place, sober or not, it's illegal. Lee had already received two DUI charges in the past, and on December 20th of 2022, his license was actively suspended. So he wasn't supposed to be driving at all, sober or not. But I mean, this guy is a killer, or a suspected serial killer. I mean, they've never really been adverse to taking risks, right?

So he gets into the car, he starts driving home. He can barely see the road. That's how drunk he is. He is recklessly driving. And at one point on the track home, he approaches a red light. Now, this particular intersection, he's trying to make a right turn, but it's illegal to make a right turn at a red light. It's one of those big intersections. There's a huge sign, no right turn during a red. He completely ignores this, makes a right turn, and a taxi driver who's coming straight in the opposite direction bumps into him, slams into the side of his car.

Oh, my. The taxi driver was driven by Mr. T, and the whole accident was caught on CCTV. Now, the crash sounds dramatic, and it was, but it wasn't that severe. So neither party were hurt, and the car's, the taxi car was more damaged than Lee's car, but it wasn't totaled, right? So they're just really dinged up.

Both Lee and Mr. T. are caught on camera getting out of their cars very much alive. They access the damage on their cars and again the taxi driver's car is more damaged than Lee's and immediately Lee starts profusely apologizing to the cab driver., please don't call the police because he's probably going to get arrested. This is like his third DUI and he suggests that they settle this privately. Now, sometimes in South Korea, if you don't want to get the police or the insurance companies involved, the party that was at fault for the accident will pay you under the table in a big lump sum of cash. So you take the cash, you get your car fixed, maybe you go to a car repair practice appointment or two, and hopefully you have enough leftover for yourself.

It's not uncommon. So Lee is suggesting that they settle it privately and he's hinting to the cab driver that not only is he going to give him enough cash to fix his car, but it'll throw in some more for emotional damage. Mr. T's entire career and family depends on this cab. I'm sure there's a part of him

that was intrigued by the software. The fact that they would settle it through cash, Mr. T would be able to get his car fixed faster than having to go through the lengthy insurance processes, meaning he was gonna be able to get back to work quicker and maybe the guy's gonna give him a little bit more money. He has a bunch of sunsies he has to support in his wife at home, so he's like, okay, you know what,

I'm not gonna call the cops. I'm a reasonable man, right? I'm not calling the cops. Least Miles Edmund says, okay, great. Why don't you get in your taxi car and follow me back to my place? It's in Puggle. I don't have cash on me right now. Everything is back home. Mr. T. Hezotates, because it's pretty late. It's not really comfortable following a stranger back to his house, but we keep securing him., I'm so sorry sir, like please truly I assure you you're gonna be compensated well generously for your trouble. Mr. T thought the guy looks friendly, he looks genuine and not often.

I mean it's not like he's a 20 year old girl, he's a 6 year old man, what would this 30 year old dude want to do with him, right? He'll kick fine. He gets in the taxi car, follows Lee all the way to his house. Both of them are seen on CCTV driving towards Lee's apartment and even spotted entering Lee's apartment parking lot. There's even CCTV of them making their way

through the building garage, down the hallway and into the building elevator. Korea is filled with CCTVs, like if you're gonna pick your nose in a hallway, there's probably a CCTV. So all of this is caught on CCTV. How did you see still think he can get away with something like this is? They don't know each other. Technically they're strangers.

They wouldn't track it down to him. Yeah, I guess that's what his thinking. It's a little bizarre. Okay. So there's CCTV of Lee in the elevator with Mr. T on his way up to his apartment and both of them look very relaxed and casual. It's very scary to think about. They walk out of the elevator and not in the last time Mr. T the taxi driver was ever seen

alive. Here's the chilling part. Lee is seen again on that same elevator CCTV camera, 20 minutes later. He gets back into the elevator, he's completely alone this time, goes down to the garage. So a couple of things can be gathered from this. One, he killed Mr. T in 20 minutes. He was able to clean up the blood and hide the body in the closet after killing him in 20 minutes.

Second, he seemed incredibly calm, relaxed on the CCTV camera. He doesn't even seem shaken, frazzled, he's not pacing or looking around or anxiously fidgeting. He seems so calm. You would never guess that this man just killed someone. And third, he was now going downstairs to get rid of the remaining evidence. So Mr. T's taxi car that was parked in the apartment building Scrooge, he just needed to get rid of it. Inside note, I just think it's so scary. So when you're out in public, there's technically three groups of people, right? In the first group, they look calm because they did nothing wrong.

They didn't commit a crime. The second group, those are like the sketchy ones. Those are the ones that we think are the worst criminals. Or like they keep glancing around. They look so suspicious. They probably committed a crime. But the scariest group, the people that look calm, so you suspect they have nothing worried, they never committed a crime,

they didn't just get done killing someone, but in reality, they did, that's the scariest group. We don't even realize it. We think the second group is the creepiest. We're like, why is that guy just making such weird eye contact? So the story made sense and it was corroborated later by CCTV. This is what he's telling the police. Like, I brought him to my apartment and I killed him.

Police were like, okay, we found the CCTV. It makes sense. You killed him in your apartment. Yeah, okay. But the motive is still unclear. Why did you kill the nice taxi man? He went out of his way to help you. He literally could have just called the police.

He would have gotten his car fixed or insurance. You would have been at fault. You probably would have been arrested. What? At least said that once they got to his apartment, the taxi man started blackmailing him. He started demanding a lot more money than what they had initially agreed on

and even threatened to call the police. Lee said that he told Mr. T that he didn't have that kind of money, that was just too much money. Mr. T was allegedly not having it. He kept threatening, I'm gonna call the police. Lee said he started panicking. Considering his previous two DUIs and his troubles with the police, he just felt so cornered. He said he grabbed a heavy blunt object laying around

and started hitting Mr. T on the head until he lay there motionless. Lee's like, I did this out of pure rage. It was a crime of passion. This was not premeditated. Initially, the motive, the story, it made sense to the police. Not like a moral sense of like, oh yeah, I can see why you did that, but more of like, okay, okay, I guess that makes sense. But they would soon realize this guy's a full blown narcissistic

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I'm not a big guy, man, but I love being a dirty mother f***er. They start doing their investigations, their due diligence, and they realize that that's not what happened at all. There were so many holes in Lee's story. First of all, after digging into Lee, they found out that he never keeps cash at home. Like ever. So the fact that he told Mr. T to come to his apartment to get the cash, that already is a lie.

You don't tell someone to come to your apartment to pick up cash when you know 100%, you don't even have cash at home. So why would he invite Mr. T over? It's like he was stringing him along knowing damn well that he wasn't going to pay him for the damages. He was taking him home to end his life. There's not many other plausible theories. Leigh then killed the 60-year-old, cleaned up the blood, hid his body, and within 20 minutes

he left his apartment to cover up his tracks. He went down to the garage, got rid of Mr. T's car, CCTV cameras caught him driving the cab and disposing of it at a nearby parking lot, like a vacant parking lot. Before he left the car, he deleted the black box in the car, which South Korean law. In every single car, it not only records video and audio in case of car accidents, but it's also linked to the car's GPS. So it measures everything, vehicle speed, location, distance traveled. It basically tracks everything. Leigh manually deleted all the data on the black box before leaving the car.

I didn't know you could delete those. Yeah. Wow. OK. But I guess if you deleted, you're so suspicious, you know? And since everybody has a black box, if you get into a car accident, just because you delete yours doesn't mean that you're not at fault, right?

Mm-hmm. OK. But yeah, he deleted it. And he also took Mr. T's phone with him. He used Mr. T's phone and unlocked it with Mr. T's face after he was dead, which is very chilling. Then using Mr. T's face for the face ID, Lee changed the security lock code, the password of the phone, and the phone served a few purposes.

The main one being in South Korea, FinTech, like finance Technology, is scary efficient, maybe too efficient for its own good. You can basically take out loans using just your phone, without ever having to even step foot inside a bank to confirm your identity. So with Mr. T's phone, his ID and his credit card, Lee was able to pull about $50,000 in the form of a loan. That was the main purpose. The second purpose was so that Lee could pretend that Mr. T was still alive. He would use Mr. T's phone to send messages to Mr. T's family, his wife and his sons. The police said that they were really heartbreaking messages. Mr. T's son constantly was trying to reach out worried for his father. He just kept asking, when are you coming home? Is everything okay? Like, I'll come to you.

You, like, if you did something wrong, it's it's okay like we can help you. What's wrong? Lee would respond to him just really weird out of character responses such as, I don't have battery, I can't respond right now. I'm not coming home. I think after a few of these messages the family realized that there was no way that this was Mr. T responding to them. Something was off. So finally after five long days Mr. T's family reported him missing to the police. The son told the officers police, my father hasn't been home for days and So finally after five long days, Mr. T's family reported him missing to the police. The son told the officers,

please, my father hasn't been home for days, and I just texted him, but I know I know that's not him texting me back. I know it's not him. During the five days that Mr. T was murdered and shoved into the closet, Lee was busy, not only responding to Mr. T's family as Mr. T in personating him to try and convince them to not worry about his absence, but he was also busy spending the money that he got out in Mr. T's name. He took Tara out to dine at the most expensive restaurants. He did

a staycation at a five-star hotel with Tara. They even bought $5,000 couple rings. So Tara is thinking to herself, I found myself one of the good ones. She was over the moon thinking her boyfriend was this kind and caring person. I mean, she had no clue where this money was coming from or how sinister the reality of the situation was. Needless to say, the police did not think that these actions were of somebody who just killed in this spur of the moment. This feels like a killer who knows what they're doing.

They lured a victim to a private space, killed them quickly and efficiently, and then had a protocol in place on what to do afterwards, for how to erase their tracks, how to get as much money as possible from that victim. The very next day, authorities started their process of just turning over every stone, really. They wanted to know everything and anything about Iggyong, and they uncovered another creepy piece of the puzzle. The house, the apartment that Mr. T's body was found, the one that Iggyong was living in, it wasn't even owned by him. He wasn't even renting it either.

The contracts for this place were all signed by a woman. Her name has also been redacted for privacy reasons, but a lot of sources refer to as Ms. J. Can you guess where this is going? Another victim? Miss J, a 50-year-old woman has signed for the apartment, and the alarming part is, the police say that she hasn't been physically seen alive in months. She had kept posting on her socials, but her friends and family, they've all been worried about her. They had no idea what was

going on with her. She was acting strange, refusing to talk to them, see them in person. The whole thing is starting to feel eerie. They bring e-g-yong back into the interrogation room, and they're very blunt with him. They're a part of your living it. It's not yours. It's registered under somebody else's name, so what happened to her? Lee didn't even seem remotely stressed. He's like, oh, okay, you want to talk about Miss J? Oh, yeah, she's my ex-girlfriend. We live together in that apartment. Okay, where is she now? She's been missing and hasn't been seen in months. Where is she? Oh, yeah. I killed her. The police said that he was emotionless. This is his ex-girlfriend. He's emotionless. And Lee went on to tell them how back in August of 2022.

So Mr. T was found December of 2022. August of 2022. Him and Miss J, which side note he's 31 and she's 50. 20 year age gap, which is fine. They're both adults, but it seems more like a sugar mama sugar baby relationship more than anything. Neighbors do report hearing them calling each other honey and baby and all these other enduring terms but Lisa that they have been dating for about four months when he murdered her yet again out of rage He keeps trying to say that all of these are crimes of passion Like I don't know if this guy is trying to chalk up being a serial killer to just being passionate But it's getting out of hand Lee was asked a people wears her body now He responded that he had thrown her into the river inside of a duffle back.

When the neighbors were asked about Lee's side note, they all expressed shock. They were like, oh, well, when he moved in with Miss J, he was really nice. Like, we had no idea we were living next to a potential serial killer. They said he was polite, always bowed to the elderly. Like, very, his inza was very good. He seemed very friendly, very smiley guy. The only horrible thing about him that they could all confirm was that, and it's hardly connected to being a serial killer, was that he smoked. He smoked indoors a lot.

They complained, God, did he smoke? He would smoke cigarettes and literally in Miss J's bathroom, and all the bathroom vents in the apartment are connected. So it would just travel floor to floor of the bathrooms. It was so bad. If you were even on the same floor as Mr. A's unit, you would smell the smoke from the hallway. But recently, we thought it was Christmas spirit. Started smelling like roses.

But you didn't like the flowers, but the very artificial, chemically strong, like an air freshener that was rose-centred. We thought maybe it was a New Year's resolution that he was going to stop smoking. We thought maybe Chris Miss Verity's going to have people over. Then this started after the murder of Mr. T. Yeah. Now they know in hindsight that he was using the artificial row smell to cover up the smell of the rotting corpse in his closet. The police wasted no time. They immediately deployed countless search troops to try and find Mr. J's body in the river.

They deployed helicopters, divers. They tried to cover as much of the river as they possibly could, but this is December of 2022. Now, side note, the river that he named, where he allegedly dumped Mr. J's body, is not the Han River, which runs directly in the middle of Seoul. This was called Kong-doon-chun River, something like that. It's in Padju. It's near the North Korean border. This is important later. Oh my gosh. Yes. So it's freezing. They got a bunch of troops near the border. The temperatures are below freezing. A lot of parts of the river were frozen shut. But adding to the difficulty of this

search was that there's active landmines because it's the border. I don't know, they can't confirm, but there is the danger of active landmines. Okay, but he went over there. That's what he claimed. Oh. And so the police are searching over there, but the search is not going well because of all these things. The temperature, the frozen river, the having to deploy helicopters, divers, and the fact that it's on the border, meaning that they have to be careful of active landmines, it's like a behemoth of a search. They're not going well.

Meanwhile, news breaks of a potential serial killer and holding, and the public is freaking out rightfully. One of the main points of contention in this case, at least with netizens, is the fact that in 2019, South Korea passed an authoritative interpretation act. What? Okay, in order for the government to release a suspect's photo to the public, the police has to get permission from the suspect.

Hey. Hey, how did that even come about? I guess it's the whole innocent, ill proven guilty type of mindset, but hear me out, right? This guy confessed. He confessed to two murders, okay? So it may be in other cases, Koreans were a little bit more like,

hmm, still feel a little weird about it. It seems like most Koreans don't like this law. So with the current law, the suspect cannot be forced to release their names, release their mug shot or any pictures of them unless they are officially go to trial and sentenced. And even then, there are other protection acts in place. It just depends case by case.

But they don't even have to show their face when talking to the press or making public appearances that are required during this case. So basically, a potential serial killer could just refuse to not let his photograph be released and choose to stay anonymous. Since 2019, since this act passed,

which I know it feels like last year, but it's been multiple years since then, only one criminal has agreed. One suspect has released to release his pictures. Not only that, you get to pick which picture gets released. Like, you know how in the US, you get arrested, your mugshot is everywhere.

You get to pick your picture and everyone chooses like the cutest little picture. So the odds aren't looking great with leasing his identity. Of course he refused. Now, I do think the press in public would have been less angered by leased decision and this law if he hadn't outright confessed to killing two people. If he was like, I didn't do it, you have the wrong people, you have the wrong person, it wasn't me, then maybe the netizens would have been like, okay, let's just wait till

trial. Because he's saying it's not him. And he like brings up a good few points. Maybe this is like police coercion, but he straight up was like, as me. So now you confessed to killing two people, but you want the public to respect your privacy. Did you respect the public when you committed those murders? Like, did you ask for permission? He said that he was refusing to release his identity because he didn't want his family to be disappointed or to know about his crimes. Which is a bizarre reasoning. Like you care about what your family thinks.

And fine, you can hide from the general public, but how do you hide these crimes from your own family? Like you're in prison. Netizens were furious. There was a lot of conversation on this act that was passed on this act itself. And should these suspects really be given that much privacy? Really like is it necessary? There's a debate over what should and should not be released

to the media, but there was still a chance that the public could see his face and all of those times are during police escorted press conferences. So technically there's loopholes in this law. He could be like, no, I don't want to release my identity. But when he's being transferred from police custody to the courthouse, if he's not good at covering up his face and the the press get a shot, they can post it because you're in public space, dude. There's

a public area. And that's why they always have a bag over the head. They always have a giant parka. The hood is over their face. they've got giant face masks. And that's exactly how he shows up to the next court hearing. And you can see him in the pictures when he's being escorted to court, completely covered up. A lot of netizens were angered because again, it's like, hey, you admitted to killing an elderly man

and now you want us to respect your privacy, I don't really think so. The only thing that he said during this interaction with the press was, he said, I'm sorry for the murders I committed. Netizens kept screaming at the cops, like take off his hood. And the officer said, we talked to him about taking off his mask but he refused. We have to respect his decision.

People were like, why are we giving these people choices? Don't give them a choice to reveal their identity or not if you confess to murdering two people. This is part of public safety. Does the government care about public safety or privacy rights of killers? Now, there's more on this debate later because clearly we have a ton of pictures of this guy, but we'll get to it later. Iggy Young was officially indicted on charges of homicide by robbery, revenge killing, abandoning dead bodies, falsifying documents, fraud, and violations of information communication networks, and

credit card laws. He could be facing life in prison, or even the death penalty. Now, although the charges were made public, he still was not even named in the media. In a photo of him, wasn't released at this point. At the same time, searches for Miss J's body are still going strong. Side note about this whole debate. People were saying, the police kept coming out and begging the public to give up any information

they have on this case. The public is like, how do you want us to do that when we don't know what this guy looks like? Do you want us to just take a guess? You know what I did see a suspicious guy? The convenience store, maybe it's the sky. Like, what do you mean? Yeah. So that was another thing that is in sky. Like, what do you mean? Yeah.

So that was another thing that is in the world. Like, what are you saying right now? Anyway, they're looking for Miss J. Nothing is coming up. Not a single thing had been found, not even a single clue. They were wasting precious time, resources, trying to figure out where Miss J's body was, and maybe Miss J wasn't even in the river.

When they confronted Lee again, he casually just said, actually, you know what, I didn't throw her in the river. Nothing I think about it. I remember digging a shallow grave on the river bank, and I buried her next to the river. Wow, come on. The investigators are agitated. I mean, he's suddenly changing his story.

They don't even know if they should trust this version of events. Lee went on to describe exactly where he buried Miss J's body,, and he sat back in the chair and he like cocked his head and he said, this is my last gift to you guys. This guy is clearly enjoying the feeling of power of toying with the police. He felt like he was the only one that had answers to questions that they needed to know. This is often why Narcissist to killers will taunt the police even after being caught. They send them on these wild goose chases. Sometimes it's just to prolong the experience of the police needing them.

Of being the guy with the answers. He got off on the attention, the power he felt with the only one with this type of information. And he's now acting like he's the good guy. He's throwing them a bone, helping them out. He felt like he was smarter than the police. Also when killers do this, a lot of experts believe it's to feel like they're in control. Because ultimately when they're caught, you're no longer in control. You don't even have the freedom to control when you take a shower or when you eat or when you poo. So him toying with the police makes it seem like he's in control of this operation.

He's the head boss. This is exactly what he wanted. He's like, I can make these guys do things. Search places that are gonna come up, empty, they're gonna get frustrated and I get this emotional reaction out of them. And it should be because what are the police gonna do? Just not listen.

They have to search the area. So they go. They look for the shallow grave where Miss J was allegedly buried and they sent out troops, canine units. They spent all day and just, they searched the full radius of where Lee claimed she was buried and they found absolutely nothing yet again. They're getting fed up with this guy.

They drag Lee out to the river and they haven't find the burial site himself. They're like pointed out. While they're Lee's walking around and there's pictures of this, he's handcuffed. There's a whole team of police officers like a dozen a whole police force But anyway, he starts walking around confidently He points at a spot on the ground

It's like that's where I buried her. There was nothing found at that side nothing So did he forget where he buried her or is he just messing with the police and having fun? It's speculated that he probably did something to Miss. J's body that wouldn't match up with him killing her in about a rage. Maybe he had done something worse with the disposal of her body sometimes when killers will dismember someone or do something very gruesome, they'll try to cover it up. Or maybe he had done something to her

before she was killed or right after she was killed that would clearly indicate that his lies were not the truth. So is he just stalling for as long as possible? The police were frustrated. They throw him in the back of a police car and they continue with their search. Now it's hours he's inside this police car. He looks around. And he figures okay. I'm probably alone. I don't see anyone. He's feeling hot and stuffy in the car He lowers his hood Takes off his mask. There were reporters hiding in the distance with super zoom lenses

No freaking way. Yes, they captured photo after photo of this guy in the police car and his identity was finally revealed Okay, so they took that photo in the car and then the people like, I know this guy here's his photo. Yes. That's how they found everything. Yes. And once.

Wow. Yeah. Once this leaked into the media, Lee was like, Oh, I want to release my identity. Again, that whole power like he wants to feel like he's the one making decisions. Yeah, he knew the game was up. He formally gave permission to reveal his name to the public. And again, he's just trying to feel like he's in control. And he chose his ID picture to be released.

So in the US, more often than not, your mug shot gets plastered, right? And your ID is also probably just as bad as your mug shot. Okay, like my ID picture is so disgustingly gross. It's probably nobody's, this is my profile picture, it's my my ID picture, but in South Korea you can choose to release any picture and people typically choose their driver's license picture Because you can edit your driver's license picture. It's South Korea law. It's legal for you to edit and Photoshop your driver's license picture Yeah, it just can't be too drastic where you look like Kim Kardashian when you're not, but to a degree So he releases that and if this case wasn't already viral, it would be with the release of his ID

Because since the day of him being taken into custody news media outlets netizens social media forums everyone is calling this guy an Other vile monster like a disgusting piece of sewage rat I think everyone had a clear picture of what they thought he was gonna look like, like a sewage rat, and then his picture was released. He looks like a K-pop idol. And look, I'm not even gonna... I'm not even gonna go down the rabbit hole of like, I feel like we've traveled down this road one too many times.

How could this killer be evil when he's so conventionally attractive? There's so many crime documentaries where the whole premise is, he's a monster, but like, look how cute he is I think he's okay. He's okay looking at best if you guys are listening to the audio version I'll describe him as best as I can I do think that he fits all the conventional attractive Standards for cream beauty. He's tall Incredibly symmetrical facial features sharp jawline a lot of hair like thick jet black hair and clear skin

So with this picture everyone collectively loses their minds. Now, I do see where people are coming from. I do think that there's an element of, we think that we know what creepy people look like. We stay away from those people. We stay away from that strange creepy looking dude, acting weird in the dark corner of the parking lot. We stay away from the guy that makes way too much eye contact and licks his lips in the grocery store. We think these people are creepy because we think we can spot out creepy people.

It's hard to say that Iggy Young is creepy looking. So a lot of people had this collective thought of, oh my God, if I met this guy, I probably would have lowered my guard because he looks so normal. I mean, in fact, I think he looks handsome. I would have trusted him. I'd probably go to his house to get accident money.

He looks like a normal person. Now another thing to note about South Korea is that I'm sure this exists everywhere, but in South Korea, there's even a word for it. It's called In-sung. It's a little bit different from first impressions. In-sung means just based off of someone's facial features and how they sit on their face and their resting face. You can tell what kind of energy they give off,

what vibe they have. And I'm sure there's more to it, but sometimes I hear my mom talking about, you know, this person's in-sang is this, and all I'm thinking is, wow, in-sang is just code word for pretty privilege. Like all the parts that she's pointing out are like, oh, their in-sang is good because, you know,

their face looks like this. And I'm like, those are just conventionally attractive features, mother. So I think his in-sang looks trustable. And that's not to say Koreans are naive and just trust anyone that's attractive, but I'm sure everyone everywhere has these biases. It's like a human bias.

So his big... You can avoid it. Yeah. His picture basically light the internet on fire. The internet does the thing of investigating alongside the police, so we're going to break this down into two parts. The police investigation, the net is an investigation. Let's start with the police. The investigators are under a lot of pressure now to figure out this case, and I will say I'm pretty shocked at how thorough the investigation has been

on this one. Why? I mean, they do, I can't even point out where they went wrong. Okay, that's good, right? Yeah, I mean, it's good, but I'm just shocked like where was this energy for a lot of other cases we talked about, but like they're pulling out all the stops on this one. The police start tracking these movements prior to his arrest. They find CCTV of him at a restaurant before his arrest.

So this is after T's murder and the five days before his arrest. The interesting incident stands out to them because so far it seems like Lee was not that close with anybody. He wasn't close with his family. He wasn't even that close with Tara. She barely seemed to know him. Everything he had told her was a lie. So she didn't even know the real him. Nobody knows the real him like I'm saying. So please, really, look at this guy, which side note, remember how Lee told everybody, including Tara, that his parents were wealthy? They're not.

So again, who is this guy? Police stumble upon CCTV in a Korean barbecue restaurant, and there is Lee sitting with a group of six of his friends. They come in together, sit down, and start sharing a meal. Friends. Maybe these people know something about him. CCTV shows them taking soju shots, having fun.

It seems like a regular boy's night out, but then it gets weird. Near the end of the meal, the six friends just collectively get up and leave when Lee is preoccupied with something. They just ghost him in the middle of the meal. They just stop. What do you mean? And Lee's. So he goes to the bathroom, Lee goes to the bathroom,

and these six friends, they're like, let's go. They get up and leave. They're not even done eating their meal. Okay, so they don't want to pay. It seems like it, right? And Lee is forced to cover the entire dinner tab. He goes inside, pays for the meal, because they were outside dining.

Then he goes back outside, and for a few minutes, he eats a little bit more alone, and then he leaves. The police find another CCTV camera that shows the street view, and it shows that Lee walks away and the six guys are standing at the end of the block, just talking on the sidewalk. Lee calmly approaches his friends, and he starts freaking out on them. I mean, I guess this part is understandable. He's seen on CCTV getting in their face. The friends slam into the ground to get him to back off, and when he's down, the friends start quickly running off.

Then Lee gets back up, wildly motioning his arms, like he's shouting something at the guys. They're long gone. They're already down the road. Huh. The police want to know. Maybe he told his friends something that night. Maybe he got drunk and confessed to the murder of Mr. T

or maybe more, or maybe he did something that they didn't like got drunk and confessed to the murder of mr. T or maybe more Or maybe he did something that they didn't like. Why would they all just leave him at a restaurant? What happened? Please track down these friends and even if nothing spectacular happened at the Korean barbecue restaurant Maybe they had an insight on Lee as a person in general Please bring them in and this case takes such a bizarre turn The guys are like Yeah, no, we're not friends. We actually don't know him. That was the first time we ever met the guy.

What? Literally what? So the guys tell the police, we were out having drinks at a nearby restaurant like the six of us. We're actually friends, like we've known each other for a while. And this dude, Lee, just approaches our table, this guy, and asks if we wanted to join him to get Korean barbecue a few doors down. It was really weird.

He just walks past us and was like, hey! I'll pay for a meal. You guys wanna get Korean barbecue? It was really weird. But he said something along the lines of like, well, I'm super fucking rich, okay? Like, I have so much money, I don't even know what to do with it.

And I'm kind of bored, so you guys wanna be my drinking buddies? Now the six friends, they're in their early 20s. Lea's 30. I mean a free meal is a free meal, and it's not like Lea's 60 years old, this creepy adjusche, maybe they could all be friends. Like an unlikely start, but who knows, maybe they'd get along. And it's also Christmas time. So everybody's in this like jolly like, yeah, let's all just huddle together together a spirit. They agree pay for their drinks. They all walk to the Korean barbecue restaurant. They order meat which side note. Meat in Korea is super super expensive. Seafood is cheaper in Korea. Korean barbecue is like a big thing in Korea because it's also a very pricey

meal typically. So I mean they're excited. This is like someone being like in America, let me take you out to a lobster feast. That just doesn't happen. Yeah. This is this is really expensive. They order soju shots and it seems pretty clear to the police, but also to the group of guys that lead just wanted to invite them to dinner so that he could be a raging narcissist. The six guys are like the whole time he was just bragging about how rich he was. How he was so rich he doesn't even know what to do with his begyllions of dollars. And he just threw it around like literally with light money on fire type of energy. He buys strangers meals, which you know all of this was fine.

He could be talking about how he was God's gift to earth and we would have listened like it was all legit because we're getting free kogi right? But we left in the middle of the meal because something weird happened. I don't know how I came up but he just kept asking us like how far we would go for money. We were all just giggling but he seemed so serious. We laughed it off and we're like, I'd probably do this, I'd probably do this. And he asked us genuinely, if I paid you a million dollars, would you kill someone? Would you kill someone for money? Probably not.

And they tried to talk about something else, but he kept bringing it back to murder, murder, and money, and you look dead serious. The friends are getting freaked out, I think it's like it's hitting them. We don't even know this guy. He could be poisoning our drinks right now as we speak. Like we literally don't know this man. They get freaked out and they decide to leave the restaurant while Lee is in the restroom.

But instead of leaving the area, they linger around talking about that was weird, that was so bizarre. Probably joking about it when Lee suddenly approaches them on the street, and the friend said, it's like he was a completely different person. He was so angry, aggressive, like, there was no way to even talk sense into him, like, hey, we left because you were being so creepy. He wanted to fight. He got all up in our friend's face, we pushed him off, and he fell to the ground, and we're

like, we don't even think when he gets up, it's going be okay. Like we're gonna get into a fight. So they take off. Lee is caught on CCTV waving his hands around yelling something. The friends will later tell the police he was screaming I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you. Okay, so there's definitely a dark dark side of him that can come out. Very bizarre and it definitely adds to the bigger picture of who this guy is, but that still doesn't solve the question of where is Miss J. The police keep digging and they find Justice Lee had done with Mr. T. He was using Miss J's phone to periodically post on Kakaotalk, her social media, to make it seem like she was

alive. If her friends and family reached out worried, because nobody had seen her in a while, she would just respond that she wasn't feeling great and she just wanted time alone. He sprinkled all these breadcrumbs using Ms. J's phone to make it seem like she was just going under the radar voluntarily. Now, similar to Mr. T, the police uncovered Lee

had taken out loans in Ms. J's name after he killed her, about $15,000. But he didn't kill Ms. for 15,000 US dollars. The police believe in the short four months that he was dating Miss J. He manipulated her into loaning him 200,000 US dollars. There is even a written agreement that he would pay her back.

So Miss J is making sure to cover herself, protect herself, but ultimately, Lee was not able to pay back. The guy refused to even get a job. The whole time he's dating Miss J, she's bankrolling their entire relationship, taking him on lavish trips, buying him designer goods, letting him live in her home, so the erasure of his debt, the $15,000 loan, and the fact that he could live in her apartment rent-free, I think all of those combined led him to murdering his girlfriend at the time.

Maybe that was his plan all along. This case then started being compared to another real life parasite case. You know the South Korean movie where there's a rich family and they employ a lower socioeconomic class family I guess and they just suck them dry slowly but surely. And then you find out that there's another family living underneath the rich family's home, leaching off of them as well. And it's a question of who is the parasite in society? And it's a movie about social class.

I would say maybe that's too high of praise for what Lee was doing. I think Lee was just a straight up parasite, like not in the movie sense, but just in the normal sense of the word. He just wanted money. He would latch on to someone, suck them dry of their funds over the course of a few months, and then kill

them, and then take out one final loan. So originally, everyone was calling him the K-pop killer, but soon the news outlets referred to him as the real-life parasite killer. And I do think it's kind of this question of, if he's capable of doing this to Miss J and going months and months without getting caught, that really doesn't seem like it was his first kill. Even the way that he killed Mr. T, the 20 minutes in and out covering his tracks, that doesn't seem like it was just his second time. It feels like this guy has done this multiple times before he's experienced he has a system in place.

Lee claims that he had no other victims, but the police don't believe him. The police found DNA in the apartment, four other traces of DNA, three female and one male. Now, these are being tested, but it is speculated that they're probably not going to reveal any new victims. It's speculated that it belonged to Miss J, Tara, the cleaning lady, and the male DNA belonged to Mr. T. So I know about the cleaning lady.

Lee called a cleaning lady 12 times a month to the apartment to clean. One of the times she came to clean was after December 20th. So there was a dead body locked in the closet at this point. She was later interviewed by police and said, Lee was always really nice and friendly. I didn't suspect a thing.

I always thought he was just another regular law-abiding citizen. And just the sheer number of people that have come into contact with Lee that could potentially be another victim Insane. So take a guess. How many people do you think you talked to in the past year? Like I'm talking friends equate and says I'm not talking like oh you texted your Uber driver like you're here Talking like full-on conversations text phone I mean not that many

Is it? I don't know. I'd probably not that many, is it? I don't know. I'd probably think like 15, 20, 30, 30. Yeah. Okay. Maybe like 40. You're working and stuff. Probably not a lot, right? But in 2022 alone, Lee spoke to at least 380 people.

Again, not just brief contact of like, oh, you can leave it at the front door. I like Uber driver. I'm here. Like he's socializing out there? Socializing. Friendly conversations. Mostly women, but 380 different people. That's a huge number.

That means he's talking to at least one new person every day. That's a lot of different potential victims. He could have invited one over, killed them, and taken loans out in their names. Maybe they've been reported missing, but the cases haven't been connected yet. So the pleas are now having to go through the incredibly tedious route of making sure each one of these 380 people are still alive. So tedious not because lives are tedious but the administrative work on that it's not just calling up 380 people

and making sure they're alive but just the paperwork, the reports that have to be filed with each verification of life. It's going to be a mountain. They did reveal something interesting about the conversations though. It seemed like Lee had 380 different identities. Every single conversation was a whole new lie, a whole new world he made up. And the conversations were just about him, him, him, him, him, him, him. Him seeking validation, him lying about his life. He literally talked to 380 people and for each one he just wanted to brag about this fake life he had.

He had 380 separate storylines. And he liked it. I mean, he spent so much time on this. It's just so strange. It's not even him that's being praised and loved by these strangers. He just got off on it. He got ego boost from them being impressed by his fake life. He also used these lies to seduce women.

Investigators said that he had various different girlfriends, which they were following up on to make sure they were still alive. But in the time that he could have spent working a full-time job, he was busy talking to girls. He was almost never single. He very quickly moved them into his apartment. Mr. J's apartment. So remember how Tara just moved in with him? Almost immediately before her there was another girlfriend that had moved in, but she moved out because they had broken up. He had lived with three different women in the span of five months. Sometimes they only lived together for a week before breaking up and I would be

curious to know with these ex girlfriends say about him because if you move in with a boyfriend and you move out in a week, I feel like something happened. That's not really a cordial breakup. And speaking of people who might have interesting things to say about him, Lee had a home inspector come to the apartment recently. He was tracked down and interviewed by the police. I'm not sure how much hindsight plays a role in this, but I'm sure it does to your degree, but the guy was positively, absolutely freaked out by Lee. He said, during the time I was there to inspect his house, he just kept telling me how his parents died, and he inherited a ton of money. I felt weird about it because it's a very personal story, and we just met, we're not even friends. But more than that, he was smiling as he told me the story.

Like it's eerie to be smiling while talking about the tragic death of your parents, no? The police investigators also uncovered that the guy had married twice before and apparently had a previous child from a previous marriage, which then turned out to be a lie. The police were sent on another wild goose chase because Lee had told a bunch of people that he had a kid. And so the police, like, we got to track down this kid and make sure that this kid is alive, turns out Lee never had a kid. He just made up this lie.

He would take pictures with a friend's kid and act like it was his. Was he married? He was married twice before. And this is kind of where the police investigation and the net is an investigation, they merge. These marriages are important, and they could lead to an answer if he's a serial killer or not,

which is kind of bizarre, but just hear me out. Everywhere in the world, I'm sure it's like this. And serial killer is three victims. So he's one victim. Yeah. And everywhere else in the world, weddings are expensive, right? And especially in Korea, very expensive. More often than not, the groom's side covers the cost of the weddings. So the fact that he had two weddings, the investigators were puzzled at how he could even afford these weddings. His parents weren't rich, like he claimed. He was receiving no financial help from them. He had no job. How the hell is he paying for these weddings? Netizens were able to find pictures from his 2018 wedding as well. These pictures are being debated whether or not they

should even be circulating since he did not give permission for them to be released. Yeah, but I guess he didn't ask permission before he committed murder. So I'm going to put them in the video version of this podcast because who cares? Back to the wedding photos. It's quite a wedding.

There's a huge cake. It's filled with floral arrangements, and the venue looks really nice. It feels very expensive. So yes, every single sign is pointing to the fact that this killer probably has more victims because again, how did he pay for this wedding? And two of them. Yeah, that makes sense, right? Yeah. Yeah. Another reason that the police believe that he has more victims is they found a myriad of items in the apartment that did not belong to Miss J or Lee or any of his previously known girlfriends that are alive. So either this guy is a pick

pocket or a thief along with being a killer or these are sick trophies that he might have accumulated over the years. The police were inclined to believe the latter because they've been going the extra mile to locate the owners of every single item they found including a pair of shoes in the beginning. Remember, the police had to call and locate all the owners of these random items to make sure that they were still alive in addition to the 380 people that they need to confirm are alive after being in contact with Lee in 2022. We still don't have updates.

It's going to be huge, complicated process. I mean, just think about the sheer manpower needed to execute an operation of this caliber. Like, that's crazy. A forensic pathologist close to the case said, it's clear that he's a cold-blooded killer. I think they need to look into the well-being of every single person that may have come in contact with him.

He seems to have a record of stealing someone's identity, killing them, leaving them, living with their assets, and then taking out loans in their names. No one should trust a single thing that comes out of this guy's mouth. Psychologists who personally evaluated Lee in prison said that he shows very strong signs of having Ripley's syndrome.

Ripley's syndrome is anti-social personality disorder or a variation of it, it seems, where someone is a pathological liar and fully believes the lies that they tell. This doesn't mean that they're actively in psychosis and can't be held accountable for their crimes. It just means that they're kind of living in a different reality. I guess the difference between someone with the syndrome versus just other pathological liars is the fact that these people tend to not be able to differentiate between their

lies and reality. And it typically originates from them not being able to come to terms with their actual reality. So Lee believes himself to be this wealthy heir in the reality of him not being that is really hard for him to even face. So he might genuinely believe his own lies. It's that that other signs of replicendram are repeated deception or lies General disregard for rules and the law and the tendency to commit criminal acts So scary. Yeah, they're also known to be a lot more arrogant often lack respect for rules and systems and have a strong superiority complex the very hot-headed temperamental So this sounds exactly like him. Yeah literally. Yeah superiority complex. They're very hot-headed, temperamental. So. This sounds exactly like him. Yeah, literally. Yeah.

But also like the 380 identities. How many realities, realities is he living in? That's crazy. And I wonder if that's because that's what his brain wants, wants to believe the world that he's in. It drives him to do these murder just to make that into a reality. Yeah. And maybe that's why he can not disassociate, but compartmentalize these murder so well, like the fact that he got into that elevator, not shaken at all. Yeah. It's so creepy. Authorities stated that there will be administering a psychopath test on lead to see where he lies on the scale. Some sources say that Lee even searched up toxic substances

and poisoning before murdering Miss Dre. So I think that should be something to look out for as the case continues to develop because it's still unfolding. We just have to keep an eye out for what's next. But this case does come full circle for a moment. Cats. Okay.

There are a lot of victims to these crimes, and his pets are victims as well. He had three cats and a dog. They were all taken in by the police and placed immediately on the euthanasialist. And if that wasn't bad enough, I highly doubt that these pets lived good lives, where they were well taken care of. There's video circulating once Lee's identity was released, of him putting his cat into a pool. Miss Jay seems to be there, and Lee is laughing while he puts his terrified cat into the

pool. The cat is squirming and literally dunked in the water, and Lee pulls the cat back up and he looks overdoid. It's just weird, because there's not a pool in his backyard or a lake nearby his home, so it's not like he's trying to teach his cat to swim. There really seems to be no reason for this other than pure entertainment. Thankfully, the Korean Animal Rescue Management Association hears of this case and the pets are being put on the kill list. They step in, protect them from being put to sleep. A representative said, the number of cases of endangered animals left at crime scenes is on the rise.

It's a sad reality that animals cannot directly explain the abuse that they've experienced and are often ignored without legal protection. They're just left as abused animals that were discovered at a crime scene. That's all. There's pictures of his pets being transported out of the crime scene.

They look really scared and confused and neglected. The only self-relining to this case is the animals all four of them have been adopted and they're gonna end up with loving families that will protect them from harm. But I mean I just can't imagine how he treated them. And that is what we know about this case so far. Let me know your thoughts in the comments and if you guys want updates on this as it progresses, but please stay safe, and I'll see you guys on Wednesday for the main episode. Bye.