Rotten Mango - #26- Daisy's Destruction - Dark Web "Pedo-Empire"

Episode Date: December 3, 2020

Daisy's Destruction - the 1-hour long video with 3 adults torturing an infant (18-month-old Daisy) was released onto the dark web in 2012. To most of us, it sounded like an urban legend, but to a lot of twisted people in the world, it was worth the $10,000 viewing price.  Today's episode enters the world of the dark web "Pedo-Empire" and you would never believe who's behind the screen.   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I don't know why being the first podcast of the month makes me feel like I need to do something special, right? So it's the first week of December. I'm like holy cow. They're expecting something bigger. They're expecting one of the biggest cases of it. I wanted to do a case that you guys just have been requesting for a really really long time. I even thought I even thought about revisiting the Ted Bundy case and when I say revisit not even just like redoing the Ted Bundy case but like completely freaking picking apart the way that my fiance just picked his nose. Picking apart! Picking apart the case because when I covered Ted Bundy, that was like two years ago on my YouTube channel when I was a true crime

New, but and I just did not know what I was talking about. I didn't get into the nitty gritty of all the little nasty details of Mr. Bundy asho And I didn't do any of that and so I really wanted to do that this week But something in my gut was just like you need to cover Daisy's destruction Everyone has been asking you to cover Peter Scully, Daisy's destruction, and I was like, okay, fine. So Daisy's destruction, you know, it's almost like an urban legend. Do you probably heard variations of it if you are anywhere near, like just everywhere? YouTube Reddit, I think even TikTok probably has covered some of it.

How come you never talked about it? Because it's so dark. It's just not something like even today, I would say that I spent about a good like 10 hours today. Just going in on this case, just doing all this research. I'm on an FBI watch list for sure after today. And I, well, even though I just had a burp, I have just insane indigestion.

My stomach is turning and this rarely happens and my fiance can definitely like testify if we had to put them on the stand. I mean, every single crime, I get into it, but once I'm done, I'm really good at like somehow putting it into its little box and then like putting it away in my brain shelf, right? But for a lot, I mean, some cases, I just can't do that.

I just have lots of thoughts. I have lots of emotions, and then probably for the next couple of weeks, I'll be thinking about it, talking about it, dreaming about it, and this is going to be one of those cases. My stomach was turning. So if you know anything about Daisy's destruction, or if you've briefly heard of it, it's almost like an urban legend. You know, there's a lot of different variations of it. It all involves a girl by the name of Daisy and it all involves child pornography. So this week's episode

is not for the lighthearted. We are going to be talking really, really in depth about a lot of child abuse, the dark web, the deep web, a lot of pedophilia, a pedophile network, something called the pedophile empire. Yeah. And we're talking about Peter Scully, and we're going to be talking about Daisy's destruction. And what that is, it's a one hour long film that was sold on the dark web for about $10,000 and it involved three different victims, and it involved three adults who sexually abused, physically abused, and mentally abused the three kids. People are spending 10,000 to buy this film. It's crazy. It's an hour long film. I don't even want to call it a film because that's such a disc to the filmographers out there. It's a fucking... I mean it's not a enough film because nobody dies in it.

So you're saying basically a lot of people heard about the name of it. Yeah, and that. Or you have an idea of what this is. Yeah, so it actually got leaked. So it got leaked on the dark web, so the paywall disappeared. So at first you could only... What's a paywall? A paywall is just like when you have to pay to view something. Like it's, you know, it's a paywall exists on the regular web.

Let's say you have to pay to get a certain number of articles from like a you know a subscription based thing right. The paywall disappeared for Daisy's destruction it ended up on a dark web website that is frequented by pedophiles and there are there's a rumor that it actually leaked onto the surface web. Okay so in order to understand all of this I am sure you guys know this spiel about the dark web and the deep web and the surface web but in case you don't I need to give you like a two second reminder. So this is going to be about onion routing. Now this, I didn't know. I mean, I would like to say that I know a bit about the dark web.

I don't go on the dark web. I'm not like trying to get hacked, right? But I do know a little bit. So the dark web and the deep web are kind of like subsections of each other. The deep web is anything that cannot be just indexed by search engines. Like if you Google something or if you Bing something, I don't know, your search browser, you Google it, right? It's not going to show up because it can't be indexed by search engines.

You cannot, if you are just on your computer right now, you cannot access most of the internet because most of the internet is actually on the deep web, right? So imagine the like the way that everyone describes it is like this ice glacier and most of it is at the bottom and you only see the surface level and in 2001 they did a study and they said it's about 500 times larger than the surface web the deep web, but now it's probably exponentially larger than the surface web now the dark web, but now it's probably exponentially larger than the surface web. Now, the dark web is a subsection of the deep web where it's usually pass code encrypted or there's illegal activity going on. These are servers that you can't just happen upon.

Right. So even if you have Tor, so a lot of people have this misconception that you download something called Tor, which stands for the onion router. Now what's an onion? What does onion got to do anything about it? So onion routing was actually invented by the US federal government. Oh yeah! So the United States decided to develop a way to be truly anonymous online.

They were like, listen, everything on the internet, because the internet was like just forming, and they were like, hey, everything is traceable by the companies who are selling us these internet packages by the people that are monitoring everything. The internet is traceable and as us, the CIA, the United States of America, we don't want our activity to be traced. We don't want Microsoft to know that this CIA

agent just double tapped an InstaPick, of a big booty, right? Like, we don't want that. And so they were like, okay, we need to, we need to develop some software. So they developed what's called onion routing, which just means that the sender, the source of the information

and the destination of the information is untraceable. It's completely anonymous. You can't trace it like you can, think of it like this. It doesn't matter if you've got a VPN right now. I'm telling you, a VPN exponentially helps you, right? But everything you do online, if they really want the FBI is going to find out, right?

Like they're gonna trace it to you. I mean, just that's how I like to live my life. It doesn't matter if I'm using a VPN, everything's seen by the FBI. That's how I live my life, okay? I mean, I do a lot of true crime research, so that's the only reason. But with onion routing, it's really difficult.

It's nearly impossible to trace that information if you're really smart about it. Now here's the crazy thing. They develop onion routing, and they're like, wait a minute. If the CIA are the only people using onion routing, then everyone's going to know that if anything is onion routed, it's the CIA. So in order for onion routing to truly be anonymous,

we need to have all their users on there. So they released it. So they released the information for people that wanted freedom, you know, and untraceability on the internet. And so people started downloading TOR, which is the popular version. It's just the onion router. There's like different software you can download. So you're saying that we do be living in the country of freedom.

We do be. But like, honestly, it was a really selfish decision. It was just for them to have... Is that actually true or? Yeah, that's what I looked into. I mean, I'm sure that there's so much more meat to this story, but let me tell you, I got confused. I was like, what the, where are the onions?

Why are there so many onions involved? And so yeah, the USA released it, and ever since then, it's become the deep web. Now, a lot of people use it for a lot of different things. A lot of people just use it for, you know, you have a big group of people who use it truly for just YouTube. Like, they're just like, I just don't like the idea

of people being able to trace things to me. Even though I'm not doing anything illegal. You know, everyone's got their own reason, but of course with something like this, there's gonna be a lot of illegal stuff. So now that you know about onion routing, now that you know about the dark web, let's talk about the childhood abuse

that exists on the dark web. It's really bad. Anonymous gets involved. Yeah, that hacker group? Anonymous that we were obsessed with during quarantine? Yeah, they're back and they've been here for a really long time, okay? They actually took down one of the biggest child abuse,

child pornography websites. I'm just gonna call it CP websites, okay? So CP typically stands for child porn. By the way, disclaimer. Like, if you are uncomfortable with this, this is just, we're going really into the details, so I'm sorry. So, Lolita City was one of the biggest CP networks on the dark web and anonymous actually took them down. They hacked the dark web for that one. Damn, you need to do a whole story on them. I know.

They must have some crazy shit. Ironically, ironically, though, because of anonymous, we have actually another network of one of the biggest pedophile empires is what they call it on the dark web. Because the creator saw the anonymous group hacking them and got interest. I'll get into it.

So first, let's talk about Peter Scully. Peter Scully is the creator of Daisy's destruction. He is one of Australia's most prolific pedophiles. He is absolutely disgusting. If you have heard the name Peter Scully, you probably already grabbing at your stomach because you are upset. So there's not really a lot on Peter Scully's childhood that I could find, you know, and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he has been really, really hush hush. He's in prison right now in the Philippines.

And he is in, yeah, most of his crimes took place in the Philippines. And he's been really hush hush. He claims that he's writing a book right now about everything that went on. But so far, what we do know, and I know with like all the things that, all these different laws that different countries have, they're really good at keeping things private.

So what I do know is that Peter Skully, he was living in the suburbs of Melbourne, Australia. He had a wife and kids. He had two kids. Oh my god, it's gonna drive you nuts. So Peter Skully is married, and he's got two kids. He lives in this like upper class nice suburban area. People know him, like all of his neighbors, all of his, you know, colleagues,

they know him to be a wealthy family man. wealthy, but still loves his family. He's all about that family life. He's all about his kids. Now, there is no indication there was no reports from what I could see that he had done anything weird to his family or anything weird to his kids. So I'm not not insinuating like oh, he's like a family man, right? But a lot of people said you know he was a good dad

He was considered to be really intelligent Friendly and just like wealthy. That's like the name every that's like the thing everyone said He just seemed really really wealthy, right and in 2011 This is a really recent case all of these are so recent by the way So 2011 he flees the country of Australia to the Philippines. Now, why does he do that? Is he looking for a vacasi on?

Is he looking? Is he looking for a new life? Is he looking for a new wife, right? No, it's because he was actually involved in a property scheme that cost investors up to $2.68 million dollars. So he was wanted. He was a wanted man in Australia. Poorly scheme? Yeah, he did a lot of real estate schemes.

And a lot of people, so he was like, I got this good property. You've never seen property like this, location, location. And then just like give me your money. Like look at all the money I already have. Because I'm such a, you you know A good real estate developer and so they would give him as money and turns out there was no location There was no land there was nothing and so he had skimmed them out of like close to three million dollars And that was in 2011 so it's probably a lot more considering inflation, right? And there was a lot of other illegal things that he was wanted for so his rap sheet was actually pretty intense before he fled to the Philippines. So the second thing was that he was running an unlicensed escort service.

So he had a Malaysian mistress in Australia. So he had his wife who we can presume had no idea about any of this, right? Like it seems like his family had no idea. It seems like he was living two lives. So he has this Malaysian mistress, his girlfriends on the side. And he created this unlicensed escort service where he would just like pimp her out, just her, like nobody else. It wasn't like an empire of escorts.

It was just her. So he would just like, they're like, okay, well, you're going to go see this John client tonight at this hotel. And it was just really illegal. Okay. So that was the second thing that he was wanted for. And then the third thing was that the Australian Securities and Investment Commission, they said that he had been doing a lot of real estate scams since 2009.

And as of 2011, he had 117 fraud and deception offenses that they were currently investigating. God damn. So this man is just a con man. Like he's not necessarily someone who was wealthy in his own right, he was literally just conning people. And it's crazy because if I saw a picture of him and you told me he was a real estate investor, I believe it. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, he kind of looks like that.

So it's very interesting, right? And so the police theorized in 2011 because they had an arrest warrant, they couldn't find them anywhere They kind of theorized that maybe he fled to Malaysia with his Malaysian girlfriend Like maybe he was like, bye family. I'm gonna leave to Malaysia to be with my girlfriend And it's not like these offenses were murder and even in cases of murder You know, it's really really hard to go into a separate country with your freaking

Hey, I brought my police from a different country and I'm gonna be all up in your country like it's just nearly impossible and so they couldn't search all of Malaysia for him. I mean it was just a really helpless situation for the Australian police so they just had like warnings out at like different airports but they couldn't really do much. Now here's the thing, he didn't go to Malaysia, he actually went to the Philippines instead. And that's when he decided, hey, real estate money is just not really good money. I need better money than that. And you know, people always say, do what you love, right? And I love children. I mean, essentially, yeah, that's what happened. And so he decided to start his own lucrative international CP ring.

And it was gonna be a pay-per-view dark web thing. So there's different variations, I mean, from what I could research. See, this is the crazy thing. Like, I tried looking into the psychology of people who have this, I don't even know what to call it. You know, I can't even call it a disease because that almost makes it, it takes away the blame. You know, I can't call it a fetish because it's illegal.

Like that's not a fetish, you know. I don't want to give you the respect of saying, oh, it's just what you're into. It's just like this nastiness. I don't know. I just don't understand any of this, right? And I think that's why a lot of the times you don't see a lot of true climbers covering pet affiliate to a very deep extent as we do serial killers because A, it's just so uncomfortable and B,

I think no matter how much we cover it, we will never understand it, even like 1%. So it's just really frustrating, but I feel like, I feel like we need to cover it more. I feel like there are faces and their names should be out there. Like we should know about the biggest pet of petos as much as we know like the biggest serial killers. I think if anything they could be more dangerous because

you're going to see the sheer number of children that are involved, it's it's going to blow your mind. So he moves to the Philippines. He starts with his lucrative international see-peeming and he does this with the help of his two Filipino girlfriends. Now his two Filipino girlfriends, they're called, I guess the direct translation would be street kids. So I don't really know how that would work out in translation, but they're just kind of known as street kids and I hate that. But what it means is that a lot of the times,

it's like they would just leave their kid out in the street if they couldn't afford to have that kid. So instead of dropping them off at like an orphanage, or dropping the kid off at like a hospital, or a fire department, they would just drop the kid off in the street. And a lot of these kids, I mean, they were dropped off in the middle of the street

since they were like an infant. So they just, all they knew was the streets, and they were called street kids for that reason. They had a very different life from what I could research from orphans in the Philippines because orphans, you know, they still stuck to like orphanages. Whereas street kids, it seemed like a lot of them turned to prostitution, a lot of them were turned, you know, and kind of groomed and brought into this illegal business. It's really sad. And so two of these girls, one of them is named Carmen and Alvarez and she goes by the name Angel. That was her nickname, which is really ironic now And then you also have

Lysel Margallo. Now Margallo went by the nickname Lovely. So there's Angel and Lovely. So Angel was 18 years old and Lovely was 19 years old and both of them were actually picked up by Peter Scully before they had reached the legal adult age. Now it's really weird. So we had just picked them up from the middle of the street, right? He brings them home, he offers them food, and he starts just like kind of treating them like half as his kid, but also half as his girlfriends. So he would kind of take care of them and make them feel like he's adopting them, but also at the same time, he believed that they needed to be sex slaves inside the house.

So they just had to do whatever he wanted them to do. And both of the girls said that they always felt safe with Peter. So this really goes to show like he's really good at manipulating people, like like especially girls especially vulnerable girls And so in the beginning of this story You're gonna really feel a lot of sympathy towards these two girls But then near the end of it you're gonna want to punch them in the face

And so a lot of the times what he would do is he would sell angel and lovely two different men for days at a time Like it wasn't even like here's a night with my girlfriend. I'm just pimping her out It was like oh just take her for five days And so it was just like this really strange grooming that was happening and I'm sure for them They just finally felt a little bit of stability So lovely's friends who were also growing up as street kids at the time, I believe they said that um, you know Lovely kind of described him as being like this really responsible rich like can financially take care of her guy from Australia And she was just really excited and happy to have someone like that in her life

So she wouldn't have to worry about you know the next meal So they also said that their relationship with Peter was extra special So during all of this they will be involved heavily in the child abuse They actually are in Daisy's destruction as abusers But during all of this, they will be involved heavily in the child abuse. They actually are in Daisy's destruction as abusers. And they said that no, but our relationship with Peter is special and it's different than Peter's relationship with all these children. He loves us.

They said that they absolutely did not feel scared of Peter at all, even though Peter did murder one of the girls like they just don't yeah They're like now we're totally fine. It's all good and dandy They say that after yeah, they said not once did they feel scared around Peter Wow, so let's talk about Daisy's destruction. So Daisy's destruction was made in 2012 Yeah, so recent and it's a four-part film. Each part, I believe. No, I think the whole thing was sold for $10,000,

but I think you could get the different four parts. So it's four parts, but maybe you could pay a little bit less for each part, I guess. But to get the full film, it was $10,000. Now it involved two women who were masked and later we find out that that is a teen-year-old angel and 19-year-old lovely, and then you have one man who has a very pixelated face. So he's not wearing a mask, but his face is pixelated during the entire

thing. And he's not really on camera, so it seems like he's more of the producer, the director, the behind-the-scenes guy, and it seems like the two women are mainly doing most of the abusing. They're doing most of the torture. They're doing most of the physical torture. And then Peter Scully would come in for the rape portion. Yes. So, if he is the director as well as? Yeah, as well as the abuser. It's insane. So, also I think with the $10,000 for the one-hour thing, I think that also adds to the urban legend of it because I mean anywhere you go online, there's rumors of oh I think this is what happened in that one hour, right? And then we have a little bit of what the government gave us of like no actually this is what happened

but they don't go in into the torture because you know why would they? They're like we already have this you know as evidence blah blah blah blah, like we're not gonna tell you guys about it, why would they? They're like, we already have this, you know, as evidence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, we're not gonna tell you guys about it because why would we? And so it's just, it adds to the urban legend of everything. So here's what I do know for a fact. So it involved three different victims. And these are the names that were given to them in the video.

So, Liza, she was 12 years old, Cindy, who was 11 years old, and Daisy, who is 18 months old. So we do know that Daisy was tied upside down for a large portion of the video, and she was sexually assaulted, raped, and beaten. There was a lot of hot wax being poured on her private areas. There were lighters involved, there were barbed wires involved, and lovely, she is the main torture of Daisy.

So she is doing all of this physical torture, all of this sexual torture. There is a rumor that there was a lot of sex toys involved, a lot of rape via sex toys, and the film essentially invites viewers to watch Daisy's mental ruin as she learns how to please her mistress. That is like a quote, that is not me. Daisy trying to, they're saying Daisy learning harder please. So they're like actually mistress so lovely. It's very confusing. Yeah, I don't, this is the thing thing like I think it's so hard for us to wrap our minds around it

So I think what they're trying to insinuate is like hey like watch us mentally mess up this 18-month-old kid because I Mean there's no coming back. I don't I mean I don't even know like where the mental capacity of an 18-month kid is I don't even know if they can talk or walk really where the mental capacity of an 18-month kid is. I don't even know if they can talk or walk really, but I feel like that's something that they will remember. Like you can't just be like a whole new kid, you know? And so it's just nasty. All of it is so nasty.

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whoa, why have I never seen this on the hub? You know, I'm a hub connoisseur. It's because hurt core is a combination of hurt and hard core, and it usually involves extreme degrading violence and sexual abuse on children and toddlers. It's not like a BDSM thing or anything like that, it's full on just a legal dark web shit, okay? So the victim usually in the qualification is that they are not a willing participant. Like not even in like the porn hubway where you're just like, oh no, Zade, don't spank me. You know, I'm talking like these people will not watch your video unless the victim is

a true victim. So there was a dark web website called Hurt to the Core and this was run by the King of Hurt Core. Like everyone who loved Hurt Core was obsessed with Hurt to the Core, a dark web website. So I mean, it's just so crazy because a lot of pedophiles on the dark web were denouncing this website saying that this website is sick and twisted and be shut down. Petafiles are saying this. I mean, it sounds crazy to say this, but a lot of reporters were reporting it this way,

but there are mainstream petafiles, which just means, so with mainstream petafilia, it's a little bit different, and I'm not condoning it. I hate petafiles of any sort. I think it's absolutely disgusting, and I hope you burn in hell. But with mainstream pedophiles, the ones that we know of more frequently is that they genuinely something is so messed up inside their brain

that they have either manipulated themselves into feeling like it's okay so they don't feel the guilt and shame. They believe that they are doing what's right for the kid. They believe that they are helping the kid or that they are in a real's right for the kid. They believe that they are helping the kid or that they are in a real loving relationship with the kid. So they kind of brainwash their own sick twisted brain to feel this way so that they don't feel

that guilt and shame that would come with something so absolutely horrendous, right? And so because a lot of pedophiles really try to stick to that standard of like, no, like it's our fault, we just like fell in love with an eight year old even though we're like 52 hurt core however goes directly against that because you have full blown adults literally torturing kids and they get off on it so how we look at regular pedophiles is how pedophiles look at her core pedophiles.

Geez. So like imagine how I do. And also, we will never be able to see her core as a regular person, but we would probably like have to die. Right, right, right. But those people they browse, and they will watch it, and then they will make a comment on that. Yeah.

That's crazy. Like I can't even imagine all the counseling that the investigators would have to go through after seeing something like that as like normal people, right? But they can like browse through it and be like, oh, I don't really agree with it. Like what? And so they were denouncing her to the core and you know, the king of her core. They were saying like, this is too much and this is sick. This is twisted right but still what are they say like who are they saying it to you know what I mean? Yeah exactly Um not one one so I was browsing this website today and I would like to fly a complaint

It's just like not what I was looking for like it's crazy You know what this reminds me of it's like when really toxic people say one thing that makes one percent sense and then suddenly everyone's like, you know, like kind of makes sense. I kind of agree with that. It's like, no, they're still a pedophile. Like we're not gonna be like, well, you know, the pet, for once I agree with the petto. Like, no! What are you talking about pedophile? And so they had a community on her to the core where it was kind of like social media like there was a hierarchy there was the OGs of her core there were the newbies you know they also did these things called shout-outs where if you would make a friend like you just know their username because again we're just talking about the dark web nobody's giving out their real name

nobody's giving out their IP address or their addresses right and so a lot of the times people would make content and shout out to user names and have the kids like hold up a piece of paper with the user name as like a shout out. Like imagine a YouTube video where you're like, today I'm gonna give a shout out to another channel and they would give shout outs with the kids holding up

the pieces of paper right before or during or after the abuse. I, my mind is blown and disgusted right now. I'm sorry, I usually don't have such personal input into crimes, but oh my gosh. Yeah, and it was bad because this website was getting about 15,000 downloads on a daily basis. So yeah, just keep that in mind. I know a lot of the times. 15,000. It sounds like a lot, but this isn't even one of the biggest networks.

There's way bigger peto rings on the dark web like you would be insanely shocked to know I'm shocked I thought I had a good understanding of crime like this, but I did not So there was also what's called the producers lounge of hurt to the core and you had to upload a certain number of Original content to gain access and this is where all the really dark shit happens. So like, hurt to the core, they had the basic level membership where it was just pictures, pictures of abuse, right? They're like just pictures, right? And then a producer's lounge, if you were uploading enough content to their website, then you had access to secret videos that other producers had created because here's the thing with CP.

I mean, it's one thing to make CP. It's another thing to pass it on. And then the thing is, once the FBI gets a hold of your CP, I mean, they're crazy. They analyze everything. They analyze the outlets in the background. I mean, I love it. I love it, right?

And so that's why they had the producers lounge because they're saying if you can make some nasty shit We're gonna show you nasty shit from other people because we feel like we can trust you So like not everyone had access to this lounge makes sense So you couldn't just be a viewer and this also made it really hard for law enforcement of break-in because it's again One thing for law enforcement to pay $10,000 of taxpayer money to try to stop this from happening right? But you know what I saw was it's more of like encouraging each other. Oh god yeah. Like you want more content than you need to produce more content.

So it's like you're just gassing each other to make torture more kids and. Oh my god. Yeah, but it also made it really hard for law enforcement agencies to break in because as much as the FBI can be really, really weird sometimes, they can pay the $10,000 and get this film so that they can analyze it, try to trace it down, try to get clues, right? But they cannot upload CP, even if they had it in evidence

just sitting there, they cannot do that. Like that is breaking so many laws. So that would prevent law enforcement from entering and they were really good at spotting footage that wasn't original. So you couldn't really do with them either. And one of the people that was obsessed with hurtcore was a guy by the name of Matthew Fulger. And all of it's going to sound like I'm talking about a bunch of-

That's fake, man. Um, no, this is his real name It's gonna sound like I'm talking about a bunch of random people, but trust me They're all part of a big peto network that I'm just I went in on today Like it's a whole they all know Peter Scully. They've all seen Daisy's destruction. Some of them help distribute it It's intense now Matthew Valder is his real name. That's not what he went by on the dark web. We're going to talk about how he got started. He was actually a really big contributor to hurt to core, to just hurt core. In general, he had connections to Peter Scully as well. And it all starts, well, this is one of his victims. She was actually,

I think her name was victim number five, I think, in all the court documents because she was under age at the time. And she had posted an ad on a Craigslist asking to buy a pet. She was like, listen, I'm looking for a pet dog. I'm not trying to, she wasn't even trying to sell a pet. She wasn't trying to do anything weird. She was just genuinely looking for a pet dog. She's 15 years old.

She posted this onto a website when all of a sudden, Mirac another teenage girl messages her back and it was an app called gum tree I think we've talked about it before with backpackers used an app called gum tree and then they ended up getting kidnapped It's a long story and so um There's a girl by the name of Lisa who reached out turn was like listen I'm a charcoal artist So I like to draw lots of things with charcoal and I'm just like getting started and I just need some inspo, I need a muse, I need a model. How about I pay for any dog that you want on the market, whether it be a $300 palm Iranian, like whatever you want, I will pay for that dog as long as you send me

a topless picture for art inspiration. No one's gonna see it. It's just gonna be me so that I can draw you because I think you are genuinely so beautiful. Like that is exactly how she phrased it and this 15 year old girl ended up opening up out her life because she thought she was talking to a fellow teenager who was just trying to make it in life. So she starts opening up about how she has a disabled brother. She is in foster care right now. She's being bullied right now in school and she's just like, listen, I just feel like if I get a dog like maybe it'll make me happy And it was just the saddest thing ever and so Lisa is like, you know, I'm the same like I'm getting bullied all the time

blah blah blah just like really Picking on her vulnerabilities and so this 15 year old girl ends up sending a picture a topless picture and suddenly Lisa is no longer that nice. Oh, I'm bullied too, but she is not that person anymore. She says listen, unless you send me more photos, I'm gonna send this to all of the bullies at your school. I'm gonna mail this to everyone that lives on your street. And to make it even worse, I will contact social services with this picture of you and tell them that you're doing nasty shit as a 15 year old and guess what? They're gonna take away your disabled brother. So of course, this 15 year old girl did what a lot of people would do in this situation being 15, being feeling like you have no adults that you can trust, there's really nothing else you can do, so she would send more and more degrading photos.

It all started with her just like doing full nude pictures, and then it went to her doing really degrading things, like holding up signs called, I'm a slut. And then another one was, I look after my disabled brother and now I'm being forced to strip. So when you think about it at first, I mean, obviously I am a slut. Holding up that seems a lot more degrading, right?

But then I was thinking about it and I was like, wait a minute. The only reason that Matthew would have her hold this sign up Is if there's a market for it because think about it. That's all this is. It's like a supply and demand is what this hurt core website is So there is there a market for people who are literally going online for underage girls holding up signs that are so depressing like I look after my disabled brother and now I'm being forced to strip. Like even if this person was over the age of 18 and was just like the hottest person I've ever seen in my entire life, that sign would immediately make everyone go,

oh, okay, this seems illegal. Obviously we're not in that mindset of like, ooh, anymore, like we're like, uh, should we call the authorities? So you're saying that there's a market of people wants like just mind twisted stuff. Yeah, because why else? I mean imagine if the whole market would say, oh my god, this person's canceled. Get this Matthew Faldre off the internet, right? Then why would he do that? It's like there's a market for it.

That's, that's insane. And so this girl, she ends up telling Liz, like, listen, I really want to die. Like I don't think I can do this anymore. You were ruining my life. I want to kill myself and Liz does not stop. So this victim ended up in the ER for overdosing. And this is one of the many victims of Liz. When was that story told? This is later told in like 2015, I believe. So when she was in the ER, it was still not released. Mm-hmm. Because I mean, she grew up in foster care.

It's like people like this know exactly who to pinpoint. They're not going to go after the people who have amazing relationships with their parents and trust their parents to do the right thing, you know, to help protect them They're gonna go for people who really don't have anyone to tell about things like this and Liz had a lot of more victims So Liz aka Matthew Fowlder. He had multiple identities online But it seems like Liz this charcoal artist teenage girl was like his favorite identity to take on right and he would blackmail lots of

people he would blackmail girls and make them eat food naked, like dog food off the floor naked and take pictures of that, he would make them and then he would escalate and blackmail them with those pictures. So this is how it always starts. This is kind of like the end-throw, this happened in Korea too. It's like a chat room, right? And it's like first send me a topless pick. And then it's like, well now because I have this picture, you're send me this picture and then it just escalates and escalates and escalates, right? And there was a girl who was eating feces poop and most of them were underage There was multiple pictures of multiple different victims

Licking dirty tampons licking dirty toilet brushes licking public toilet seats that were really dirty And all of them had this degrading aspect of like obviously this was not consensual, they were underage and they didn't even want to do it. You know, they were being blackmailed into doing this. There was another, a couple, a lot of it was very homophobic and racist. So Matthew would have a lot of these underage girls being completely naked in degrading situations, holding up signs that would say like, I hate insert homophobic slur, insert racist slur. Yeah.

What? So I guess there's a market for that too. Like it's just, it's self-disappointing and humankind. I don't even know what to say. So he would have them hold up these signs. He was so sick to the point that he would even target these pro-anorexia websites looking for victims. Because he knew that if you were dealing with eating disorders with anorexia and you were on these websites that were pro-anorexia, it probably meant that you had a lot going on. You know, it's one thing to have an eating disorder.

It's another thing to be so deep in into this that you are seeking out, you know, I guess, encouraging eating disorders, encouraging anorexia, like just... Oh, pro. I thought you were professional. No, no, no. I was like, what does that mean? You're like, what? No, no, no, no, pro, like... Oh,, you're like what? No, no, no, no, no, pro like they're do it like you should do it, right? So Liz was actually Matthew. Now

who's Matthew Fowler? Well, he's a 29 year old Cambridge graduate. He, yeah, he's a researcher and a lecturer on geophysics, which is pretty much like the physics of the earth. He studied seismic oceanography. Is he a professor? Yeah, he was a lecturer at a different university. But he graduated from Cambridge, which is a highly esteemed university. So he is very, very intelligent.

He had a long-term girlfriend. He had a lot of college friends, and he had a lot of colleagues that he would hang out with on a weekend basis. People described him to be extroverted, funny, and larger than life. What the f- He had a double life. So he was just living this completely and he looks normal. Like, I think that's the crazy thing.

Honestly, I'm gonna be real with you. Anytime I hear people say, and the serial killer looks so normal, right? I would say like, 30% of the time, I'm'm like yeah, but like 70% of the time I'm like EEEE like if I saw that guy I'd probably cross the street and that has nothing to do with anything But the fact that I don't know he's got something crazy in his eyes, right? But with him and all these other people like Peter Scully Matthew Fulter and the rest of the people that I'm gonna talk about in this Giant Peto Network these other people, like Peter, Scully, Matthew Faldr, and the rest of the people that I'm gonna talk about in this giant pet-o network, they genuinely look like fun people.

Like, one of them. I just saw a picture of him at a bar with his friends, and he looks like a good time. Like, he looks like he'd be that dude that tells funny jokes. And I'm just like, this is so scary. But then there's also, like, you say, 20,000 people be downloaded,

and they probably just regular people. Regular people. Like, I feel like we all and they probably just regular people. Regular people. Like I feel like we all think pedophiles look a certain way too. Like those old dudes that are like, can you come here little kid? I got candy, but they just look like regular 20s, 20, 30 something out. Most of these people are hot in their 20s or 30s. Also successful.

Yeah. It's insane. So it's not like a loser. No, like smelly weird, like out insane. So it's not like a loser. No, like smelly, weird, like outcast. No, it's not. He's 29 long term girlfriend, tons of college friends. And what would the front? Did you know what the friends are saying?

Things were all discussed. I mean, I can't even imagine what it would be like to be a friend of his and a family member, or even like a long term girlfriend. Like that would be earth shattering. Actually, one of the people that I'm going to talk about today, he was turned in by his mom. So, it's just really disgusting.

And in his, for your time, when he was doing all of those things, he would go on to these forums on the dark web. One of them was titled, 100 Things We Want To See At least Once. Yeah, they're not going to be your bucket list. It's not going to be, I want to see the Northern Lights at least once. I want to see Beyonce live at least once. So he posted onto this forum, Matthew Falker. He posted three things he wanted to see at least once before he died.

Number one, a young girl being used as a dartboard. Number two, a child's bones being slowly and deliberately broken while they're alive. Like not like bones that you've taken out of their dead body, like they're alive. Like you're grabbing their arm and deliberately breaking their arm slowly. Number three, the abuse, the sexual abuse of a paralyzed child. Those were the three things that Matthew, Fowler, wanted to see in his life. He also visited multiple threads. These threads included three men and a baby, Toddler Child porn star, crying rape,

and he also made a thread of his own called ideas for blackmailed girls. He also made two different manuals, one of them being producing CP for dummies. Also, peto manual. It was just how to be a peto, a manual on it. How not to get caught being a petto. Which is crazy because again, he had a double life. So he had a public Twitter and his Twitter seemed so normal. And this shook people. On his Twitter, he just posted about his love for Dinosaur. Dinosaur is baking ping pong 3D printing, crossword puzzles that he was stuck on. There's nothing. Nothing. Pictures of him and his friends. The only very dark thing in hindsight was that he posted a tweet Like how do I put nice quality videos online and everyone thought he was posting videos about I don't know fucking seismic oceanography

I can't even surfing dark web. Yeah, why is he asking how to post a video? I don't know. You know what I mean. Yeah, that seems like That's such a fake. Yeah, like I'm trying to be like I don't even yeah, what are normal people post online again? Yeah, what's the internet? I don't know how to use this. Yeah, what is dark web? It's freaking nuts He went by three different names He went by Lisa when he was blackmailing girls, but on the dark web when he was posting those blackmailed photos and pictures of girls Photos and videos of girls, he went by three names, 666 devil, evil mind, and in the garden. He also had 70 different

internet identities and he, the worst thing that he did, technically, I mean, all of these are so bad, but one of the very scary things that he did and think about this after I say it, is he blackmailed someone to rape a four-year-old. No. Yes, but think about that statement. I know, once you get over the shock, because what could you have done so bad that your blackmail, like what could you do in life where you're like,

oh no, I have to rape a four-year-old so that I don't get caught for this thing. What could you have possibly done? I don't know, nobody knows. And did the person do it? Yes. And so even if you go on Reddit, everyone's just like, what could you possibly done in life? Like, what could he possibly have on you? And so a lot of people think it probably has to do with like leaking, doxing you, like leaking your information. And you know, you probably did something to the peto community and something they're gonna come after you or some shit like that. I don't know, honestly, I don't know.

I can't imagine like one thing. So Matthew Faldre himself, he had a black male to over 50 victims, so he has 50 victims. And at least I believe 10 of them have tried to take their own lives since this has happened because they just they don't know how to cope they don't know what to do and the way that Matthew Fowler was caught is absolutely insane so the FBI actually came across his profile on these petal websites first so the FBI sends this information to the UK because they believe Matthew Fowler is from the UK,

which he is, and they send it to the NCA, which is the National Crime Agency of the UK, which is kind of like our FBI, right? So they send it there. And then they get the UK GCA HQ involved, which is government communications headquarters involved. And then with the FBI, the UK GCHQ, the UK NCA, the US Homeland Security Department, the Australian Federal Department, the Euro poll, Israeli and Slovenian police.

And then finally they caught him. They had to work all of these agencies. God damn, you don't know how? They just tracking down. They had to track him down. And that's how crazy that the dark web is. It's nearly impossible. And do you know what happened? They finally, finally traced him down, and they arrested him. And that was about it. It took 30 minutes for the judge to read off all of his charges. 30 minutes. Like imagine

being arrested, and they're like, so this is what you're being arrested for. And they just fucking talk for 30 minutes about what you're being arrested for. They're just reading the charges to you. It took the judge 30 minutes to read his charges. You know how many charges that is? That's a lot of freaking charges. So I mean, with all of these agencies, it seems like they were what they typically do in most of these situations that I've seen so far and researched is that they will get the way that you talk, the way that you post things because it's really difficult to get your IP address through the dark web nearly impossible, right? So they'll look for a defining characteristics if you post a photo or if you post a video.

So long as you did everything correctly, you could totally go on the dark web and your IP address is just like out there for everyone to see, right? But most of these people, they know how to do it well. So once they get those photos or those videos, then they look for identifying, like, identifying factors. What country you could live in. And then from there, they look at like house styles, you know, all of these different things.

A lot of people get caught by, like, identifying small moles on their body that were briefly shown. A lot of the times it's looking at the interior of a car, like even just a snippet of a trunk and they're like, this is this car. And then they look into that. So it was all of that involved. And they finally catch Matthew Faldor.

And after the judge and the police read off his charges, he just jokes and he says, sounds like a rap sheet from hell. What? What? So that was in October 16th of 2017. That's 2017. That's 2017. He pled guilty to 137 offenses

against 46 different victims 46 different humans who are probably now still suffering and they Sends him he's at 29. He's only 29. He's 29. Yeah And they sentenced him to a grand total of 32 years in prison. What? Because he's a non-contact offender. So is he never done it himself? Yeah. So with PetAphilia, there's two different types of offenders. There's the ones who just possess CP, who look at CP,

who distribute CP. And those are known as non-contact offenders. And then there's the ones who produce CP or just like to rape kids. And those are contact offenders. So he got a massive 32 years in prison. That's fucking crazy. Yeah and those, all those agencies that I listed, it took them four years to trace them

down. Four years. I mean obviously it wasn't like the FBI was just on his ass the whole time because again he is a non-contact defender. So with these types of cases, they prioritize, hey, can we save a kid first right now? Like is there a kid in danger? They're going to prioritize those cases first. And then they're going to go to distributors, right?

And so it took four years to catch him. And then later, he appealed his sentence and they reduced his sentence to 25 years. I don't understand either. So with this situation, I guess what a lot of people are saying is that this is the standard that they are giving people who distribute CP. And so just because you have a horrendous case of it doesn't mean you can just be like, well, you're getting 32 years. I think that's why they reduced it. That's what everyone on Reddit is saying. I mean, this happened in the UK. I don't know why they did that, to be honest. Yeah, I don't understand.

And these charges makes zero sense. But do you want to know what's even crazier? That all of the government officials in the UK and a lot of press said this is going to show pedophiles that there are consequences for their crimes. Because this is actually- What consequences? This is actually considered show pedophiles that there are consequences for their crimes. Because this is actually- What consequences? This is actually considered a really long prison sentence for a pedophile.

A black male, raping and curaging pedophile. This is a really long sentence. They said this is setting a precedent to pedophiles. I feel like that's showing them, hey, you're good, 20 years. Yeah, you're out. You're still old enough to know how to use the internet or young enough to know how to use the internet and you'll be right back. It's nuts. I know this is probably not the right time to talk about it, but you want to know what else is nuts? You're nuts! It's jingle bell time guys! Jingle bells! Jingle bells! Are you man-scaped all the way?

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Daisy's destruction the one that was behind a paywall that people had paid $10,000 for for free on Hurtcore for Hurtcore members It's kind of nuts. So his name is also Matthew. His name is Matthew D Graham, Matthew David Graham And he was known as the king of Hurtcore. Now what's crazy is that and he was known as the King of Hurtcore. Now what's crazy is that he did not look like the King of Hurtcore. When you imagine the King of Hurtcore, who do you imagine? Do you imagine like the nastiest villain that you've ever seen online? Like just an evil looking mean-mug-in person, but he's actually a Melbourne student in Australia who has lots of pimples.

He is... Another young kid? Yeah is another young kid. Yeah, another young kid. Why are all these fucking, who is 21? It's not like, antherum too? Yeah, you know what this reminds me of? That black mirror episode. Do you remember that one?

No. Oh my god, that one traumatized me of that young boy who's like, works as a waiter and he's so nice and he's like so nice to kids and then you're just like, what's, I don't understand what's so creepy about this episode and then later you find out it's creepy because you watch a CP Okay, so this guy it's he's only 21 when they he fucking started it all starts with anonymous the hackers Uh-huh, okay, so he's like it looks like his main issue if I were to just look at Matthew Graham I would say oh his probably biggest struggle in life is Sistic acne like he had acne like he just kind of seemed nerdy little pimply, you know

He was living with his parents in this little suburban area super suburban area, right? I mean was studying nanotechnology in college and it was really ironic because when Matthew was 17 years old, he was visiting websites like 4chan. So 4chan is kind of like Reddit, right? I know 4chan gets a really bad rep because everyone's like, oh my god, all this crazy shit happens on 4chan, right? But it's actually just created to be a freedom of speech platform. They don't really monitor anything, they don't really delete anything. And so he's browsing through 4chan and during this time when he was 17 years old This was in 2011 Anonymous the activist group they made an attempt to shut down child pornography on the dark web for good

Now this was a highly appaulated attempt because I mean the FBI can't even do that, right? So how are you expecting some activists to do it? But they freaking did pretty good. So it was hashtag operation darknet And they worked they were calling out they said hacktivists all across the world like we need your help Hac'tivist is a hacking activist Yeah, uh-huh and they said we're gonna target child porn sites and host and we're gonna deny them service And we're gonna spam them with the tax, right? And they took down one of the biggest child porn rings

at the time called Lolita City. It was on the dark web, I think that one had, like I said, 15,000 hits a day. So they shut that shit down. They shut down Lolita City. The FBI couldn't even shut down Lolita City from what I know. I don't know if they made a full, fooduited attempt, you know, because technically the FBI does shut them down, but they also try to get everyone's information first, but they shut

down Lolita City, which is crazy. And so many people who were into hacking, who were into anonymous back then, because I know right now they're more mainstream and people are talking about them on TikTok, but back then it was really like lots of computer people who are into anonymous like it wasn't like your mainstream people and so he was really into that so he was visiting all these four-chan websites who were keeping up with updates they were like oh my god anonymous just hacked the servers of this this child porn site this website this website and so this 17 year old Matthew Graham he was like oh my god I want to go see this like I want to go see who they're hacking and prior to this he said that he had never experienced any attraction towards children right so it goes he goes on to the dark web and he looks at one of

the websites that they were in the process of hacking and he ccp and he realized that he is a disgusting shit human being and he's attracted to children. So ironically, it all started with anonymous his activist attempt to shut down child pornography. So he's at first, he felt ashamed. But once he started joining these pedocommunities, it made him feel truly comfortable with his attractions. I want to punch him in the face, I'm sorry.

And so he went by the name Lux. That's what he called himself. Everyone knew him as Lux. And he was kind of a prominent figure in the pedo world. Yeah, he was a prominent figure. So in 2012, he starts hurt to core. Hurt to the core. He has multiple heart core websites. That's why he starts hurt to core, hurt to the core. He has multiple

hurt core websites, so that's why he's called the King of Hurt Core. But his most famous one was called hurt to the core. And that's when he starts developing connections with Peter Scully. I believe Peter Scully was part of the producers lounge of hurt to the core. And he did not post Daisy's destruction. Peter Scully himself did not post Daisy's destruction, destruction on hurt to the core. It seems like himself did not post Daisy's destruction on Hertz to the court. It seems like that was all Matthew Graham's doing, right? And this was all a conditional membership. Like I said, we had to upload a certain number of videos to enter the producer's lounge. Baba, baba, baba. And he also started what was known on the Dark Web

as the Pettto Empire. This was going to be one of the many, but one of the dark webs most complex petto networks. Well, there's that me. That means a network of different servers, of different websites, of forums, of just everyone who are petos, just a network of people. So, so he started off just like, oh, I'm attracted to this. And then he wants to run a huge empire. Yeah. Which is crazy because, you know, we've talked about the Silk Road on YouTube before, which is a dark web empire where they sold drugs.

It was a billion dollar website. Like they made billions of dollars, the creator, right? Matthew made zero dollars from this entire operation. And so the police and psychologists conclude he did this to feel powerful. I see he's finding. Yeah. Finding a place. And he was also a non-contact offender. So he was running this entire peto network out of his parents' home. Nobody had any idea. His parents had no idea, his siblings had no idea. They just thought he was kind of like going through it

because he would skip class a lot to just like be on his computer. And they thought he was either gaming or like talking to girls or just like reading stuff. Like nobody is, like when you're in your room on your computer, your parents don't just walk by, like I wonder if they're starting a pedophile organization. They're probably, what are they doing on TikTok all day, right?

And so the parents expect like they suspected Absolutely nothing and it got so big that his collective Petto empire that they called it got about 400,000 hits a day Yeah, that was like the height and it was a global network. I guess CP has no language So like it just there were people from the US Germany Brazil Those were like his main three places that he would get people. Yeah, you us. Hello. We're there So he even taunted the FBI so the FBI had taken down his servers at one point and then he brought them back up So he had servers in Ireland and then the FBI shut down those servers.

Then he was able to get a new servers because when you are, oh my gosh, I didn't know this, but like making a website, making servers for the dark web is no easy task. You know, you can't, you can't just be like, I'ma just use square space, you know, like you can't do that. Like you got to it's a whole operation and the FBI and all these agencies are looking at for you and trying to shut you down. Like it takes a lot of skill and a lot of time, a lot of money, a lot of effort. And he got his empire back and running. And he even taunted the FBI and he said, listen, if you want a tell-all book from me, you got to give me Bitcoin and immunity.

But also, to all the law enforcement reading this right now, fuck you, the empire still up. And what's even crazier is that Matthew kind of phrased things so he did interviews with journalists later on. And it's crazy because he phrased it in such a weird way. Like, this again goes back to the just the general foundation of why do pedophiles brainwash their own brains. So like I said about like quote mainstream pedophiles, they keep saying like, oh, well, like this is what the kid wants. Like they trick themselves almost, you know, they manipulate their own brains to believe this and Matthew does a variation of it. Instead of addressing the fact that he is scum, he says Matthew does a variation of it. Instead of addressing the fact that he is scum, he says that this is freedom of speech. He is taking one for

the team for the first amendment right. Is that the first amendment? He's American? No, I don't know what he is, but freedom of speech exists wherever he lives. He's, um, he's Australian Melbourne. Yeah. Okay. And so he said, this is all for freedom of speech. If any any this is his quote Well, he's from the same place as Peter Scully Yeah, I don't know if they physically knew each other. Oh, but they are both from the city Okay, yeah, and so um wait, he said yeah, this website is freedom of speech. Yeah, he said portraying people is freedom

He says it's freedom of speech. This is his direct quote. And I quote, ready? If anyone had ever done such a thing to any of the kids I know, I would put a bullet in their heads. Given that, I still think that people who have interest in such things should have a place to voice their opinions and desires. I don't understand.

He doesn't like people doing that. He said he would be pissed if anyone did it to the kids. He knows like his brother or his neighbor. Uh-huh. But. So, okay, cool. Then you're the one that did something to my kid. Then can I put a bullet to your head?

Exactly. I don't know. Yeah. Like, what the fuck is that logic? Yeah, that logic is all sorts of weird. It's like saying you can go kill people just don't kill anyone I care about yeah Let me help you say that with his full chest. Yeah, he's trying to like market himself as not a pedophile But more of a a champion of free speech. Oh, so he's saying that he's just doing it for the people

Yeah, like he's like no, I'm just providing a place for the people to like practice their freedom of speech. And everyone's like, what? And he deserves praise for that. Yeah. And he also didn't make any money from it, right? But you know, maybe if you're one of like the one person out there that's like, you know what? Yeah, I will fight for freedom of speech to the death. So maybe I can see that.

Well, you're not going to understand him after this. These were screenshots that were released of that website, hurt to the core. Oh, no CP, no CP, no, no, no CP released. No CP, but these were some of the, you know how like websites have like little little sections that you can click on and that it leads you to like another page. So one of them, it's like a tab. Child, sex, and prostitution. Where and how to find kids to have sex with? This had 315 post and 58 sub topics. Once you click on that, there would be 58 more topics.

Where to find kids? Yeah, the next tab links guides and security. How to keep safe and well informed in the pedophile world. So like how not to get caught by the FBI. And that one had 271 posts and 66 topics. Pictures of delicious little boys. That one had 1,214 posts and 106 topics. Pictures of yummy little girls.

3,339 posts, 477 topics. Adult, 18 plus victims includes gore and torture. 91 posts, 9 topics. This was one of his many websites, and this was not including the producer's lounge Now like I said Pedals hated him, so there's that So What kind of statement is that? I don't even know Lots of people bring it up as if like that's supposed to be like wow I guess those pedals are on to something like I

was getting so frustrated yeah this is like when someone who has done such shitty shit does the bare minimum and everyone does my respect and then does the up arrow and then you're just like what yeah that person literally made my respect respectful the mainstream petal just went up. Yes, yes, it drives me nuts and I'm just like you don't have to. Yeah, you can agree with that one statement they made without respecting this person who has done so many disrespectful things. I don't need to know Angela Petto's opinion on this. Thank you. Yeah.

Your petal file, you should go there. Yeah. Like, that's exactly what it reminded me of, because so many people kept bringing it up in articles. So Matthew Graham, the leader of Hurt to Court, the founder, he decided to leak Daisy's destruction onto his website for the sake of freedom. He thought that this video, this hour long feature film of three victims being brutally

assaulted, should be free. So he leaked it onto his website. So that was the big first offense that he did. The second thing was he hurt me first offense. Like really bad. Like the FBI is looking at this like, oh, you done fucked. So what he's doing before wasn't bad it was bad, but this is like oh shit What does that mean like he put him and Peter Scully on the radar because this film is so bad compared to all the other

previous content. Yeah, so Him being the one releasing it now he became a like a target. I see like top of the list like he might have been like maybe second tier of the FBI like we're working on so much shit And then we'll get to you and this put him at the top. This was like your fuck. Wait so Peter was charging money for this Yes, but he released it is Peter Pins or like it But we don't really know you know, I don't know how pedo friends work. I don't know if pedos have friends I don't know pedos like that Yeah, so it seems like I'm sure Peter was pissed

I'm sure Peter if he wasn't pissed for the release of it I'm sure he was pissed because this put him on FBI radar This I mean this is gonna everything's gonna go to hell at this point Which we're very happy about but everything's gonna go to hell and then point, which we're very happy about, but everything's gonna go to hell. And then the next thing that he did was he encouraged a Russian man from Russia. He gave advice, not even just encouraged, but gave advice, a step two, a step-by-step guide on how to rape, kidnap, and murder a five-year-old girl. We don't know if the Russian man did it or not, because it happened in Russia. We don't know if it could be related to any other five-year-olds who this might have happened

to at the time in Russia, there's no saying, like people couldn't trace it down. And then, he encouraged a man from the United Kingdom to abuse a disabled child in his care. So he was a caretaker for a disabled child, and he gave him advice on how to abuse that kid and not get caught. And then he helped a very famous pedophile who was 27 years old, a vayed police detection for quite some time. This guy from 2010 to 2014, four years, he was watching over his niece, I guess he was like babysitting his niece all the time, who was around the age of like six to nine years old during all of this While this was happening and he made videos frequently raping her and

Abusing her his niece Now his name was never released because obviously then it would be so easy to trace the victim because they're blood relatives So he's in prison, right? And he also had ties Matthew Graham also had ties to a guy by the name of Shannon McCool. You guys may have heard of it, right? He was another Australian. He was from Adelaide, and he is known as Adelaide's scariest pedophile. So he was active in his pedophilia from, well, I don't like saying that, because it's kind of like saying like an active serial killer, so it means like he's actively committing vicious crimes, right? But he's probably been a pedophile for a lot longer, but he was active during 2011 and 2014.

So he worked for, he worked for a child daycare center and he was assaulting youth and his youngest victim was 18 months old. He targeted disabled kids and vulnerable kids. He actively sought out child caretaker positions. So he would assault them, he would exploit them, he started his own global distribution network in the dark web. So you've got Hurtcore and you've got the King of Hurtcore and he's got the Pedo Empire, right? And then

you have Shannon McCool, who he's friends with, who created the global distribution of the love zone, TLC. I don't know if you took it over. I don't know if you like started it, but it seems like he was a prominent member of TLC, which is called the Love Zone. And that one had 45,000 members. What did they do? They have just a host of websites that just post images and videos. And Shannon had a website that had just on that one website, 50,000 photos of kids being abused.

This is not 50,000 kids, like pictures of them, like, oh, I just took a stock photo of like a Disney kid and like post it on the, I'm talking abused. They're being abused. 50,000 pictures. And he would coach people on how to abuse children. He would coach people, like a fucking life coach. He would life coach pedophiles on how to be pedophiles

I don't understand the judge actually called him the world-wide evil Because he just he would talk to anyone from around the world and he would encourage them to assault children Now the way that he was caught is really interesting So the way that he was caught was because he would go on to all these forums He would go on to all these websites that the FBI was monitoring. All these law enforcement agencies, they're monitoring. There's literally organizations that are just trying to stop these child sex rings online and they're monitoring it.

And he had this particular way of saying, hiya. Like, you know how when you say hello, or, hey, hi, he would say hi as H-I-Y-A-S if you're young you're like hi yoss hi as it's like a really weird greeting right and it's not a regular saying right it's kind of like a I guess it's like a so people do use it like an old lady saying that's what the FBI said like when they were researching into it and like all the other law enforcement agencies All they could find were like a bunch of old ladies on Facebook saying like hi is was poppin You know not was poppin but like hi is everyone and so they're like that's so weird and they went on to the these basketball forums

So they're just literally browsing for the word hi is because you know government agencies can do that They can search the internet just for those specific words. They're drawing connections. Yes, and they found a dude in Adelaide who kept writing highest also on a basketball forum on the Surface Web. So he's talking to like about basketball and he's like, hi, I was anybody know about this, basketball game coming up. And so they're like, what the fork?

And they also found that once they traced that to a Facebook profile, they like connections with pictures that were being uploaded with the people who were saying hi-os on the dark web so they were like oh my god this is it and they found out it was the house of Shannon McCool now when they go to Shannon McCool's house to arrest him he was at that moment online and running his dark web website, which is the best thing ever, because you'll find out that a lot of child pornography

they will not give up their passwords for there, and it's really hard for the FBI to break in. And so he was already online, and this is the story of how law enforcement agencies ended up running a pedophile ring, because they were trying to get other names, so they started taking over for Shannon McCool while he was being interrogated. So they were like talking to the rest of the people like, what's pop out in like,

where you at, you know, yeah. And so when they raided his house, they found 53,000 images of abuse children. Many of him was his own abuse towards the children under his care. So he would assault kids and he would take pictures of it. It was really bad. 53,000 images. Yeah. And the police ended up taking over his website

to trace down other people. He, they, it's crazy. They ended up getting to Britain's worst pedophile through this. You're going to die. So this dude is not the worst pedophile. No, if it's worse. And then we're gonna go back to Peter Scully, who just might be the worst.

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Then we got Shannon. Now, Shannon is leading us to Britain's worst pedophile. By the way, just so we don't have to come back to Shannon. In 2015, he was sentenced to 35 years in prison with the possibility of parole in 2018. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He's not a second contact, whatever. He's a direct contact. Yep.

They gave him 35 years with parole. I could go on about it. I could literally talk your ear off for the next two years about how I think it's so unfair. That's not so unfair. And about some crazy cases. It's insane. And so actually, though, the only good thing that did come out of it is that they were actively able to save 85 different kids internationally that were being held and used for child

pornography. Now, who is Britain's worst petrified? His name is Richard Huckle, and I'm just going to start off with Richard Huckle because the FBI and all of these law enforcement agencies, well I don't think the FBI was at the center of this one, but all these law enforcement agencies, they were pretending to be Shannon, and the one person that stood out to them was this dude, and it was because the sheer number of children that he kept posting about that he abused and his attitude, and it wasn't like this fake grandiose, like I'm the biggest baddest bitch out there, right?

Like it wasn't like that, it seemed really genuine, and so they put all of their efforts to track him down, and his name is Richard Huckle, so a little bit of background on Richard. He was born in a middle-class family. He was described as a bit of a loner, nothing really extra-ordinary, in the sense of, like, he wasn't like an extra-ordinary loner, like an outcast, but he also wasn't like popular or cool

or like nothing about him really stood out to people. And so in 2005 and 2006, he decided to spend a gap year in Malaysia and he ended up absolutely loving it, okay? So he grew up in a religious household and I'm not gonna tell you the religion because a lot of people have been trying to cover up the religion because I think that church ended up getting so much hate for no reason. You know, because he ended up using that religion as a tool to get access to children. But that has nothing to do with the church, you know

It was like the the religion or that organized religion was like you should do this right and so he would He was a religious person I don't know if he was or if that was a tool for him But he went to church a lot and he would go to Malaysia and he would help out at these local churches and these Communities and he was able to blend in because he knew exactly what they were talking about and their faith and everything like that. He even got what's called a sulta so it's a certificate in English language teaching to adults. So he would use this to go to Malaysia and try to teach people English. He also was a freelance photographer. Now he was obsessed

with Southeast Asia. He was obsessed with Malaysia, Singapore, Laos, and India And he would love to go there and volunteer at orphanages. Gee, I fucking wonder why it's gonna make you so mad soon Okay, just hold on So in India, he actually persuaded a pastor to give him access to an orphanage pretending to be an English teacher and he said listen I am this amazing religious person. You're religious, you know, pastor, I'm religious and we have the same faith and I'm just like coming from the UK. I'm really good at English. I'm from like an English speaking country. And I want to teach your friends English for free because my faith says I should do this.

And so of course these people are like, oh my god, like this is a godsend. Thank you so much. in English for free because my faith says I should do this. And so of course these people were like, oh my god, like this is a godsend, thank you so much. And they would let him teach the kids English. And he would then abuse these orphans, take photos of them, take videos while abusing them. He would for nine years assault babies, toddlers, and early teenagers. It seems like 12 was his cut off where he was like,

oh, 13, two old for me. And so anywhere from infants, to I believe he started at six months to 12 years old, he would assault them. He would film them and he would share them online with people like Shannon. Just at the orphanage for nine whole years. Yeah, different orphanages. He would just skip around Southeast Asia, but it seemed like primarily most of his victims were in Malaysia.

And this is going to cause a lot of pain in Malaysia. And so he goes back to the UK for Christmas in 2014. And he had told Shannon that. He had told Shannon that, he had told Shannon that and so the police find that out right so the police arrest him at the airport when he arrives December 19 2014. Wait wait wait wait he told Shannon exactly what time and all that shit? No that he was coming. Oh okay yeah and somehow they just like found out that it was gonna be Richard

Huckle because he had spent so much time in Southeast Asia and a lot of the photos and pictures you could tell that the victims were Southeast Asian, you know, and so they were like it's fucking him And I believe there was speculation in Malaysia that he was a child abuse at one point But they didn't have enough evidence so with all of that they were working together and they were like we think that this is the dude So the arrest him when he comes to the airport to December 19, 2014 Which is crazy because that's six years ago. This sounds like something that happened a bit trillion years ago.

But it's happening six years ago and happening today. And so once he gets to the airport, all of his electronics gets seized, right? And now the police at this point, they don't have anything. They have no evidence. They have no evidence that this dude even has contact with, you know, what's the dude? Shannon.

So he says, listen, the judge says we have to grant you bail, but you have to agree and sign these papers and say that you can only be with your parents in the UK. You cannot leave the United Kingdom until we're done with their investigation. This is kind of dumb, though. They have no evidence and now they kept his evidence. So they're just trying to get into his car. Yeah. So he can't wipe it, right? And so he's like, okay, sounds good. Now, when he gets to his mom's house, his mom's like, the fuck you doing kids? Like, what's going on?

And so his mom confronts him and he admits to raping kids. He admits to it. He's like, yeah, so when I was in Asia, I raped these kids, what do I do? Should I get a lawyer? And so his mom and his dad look at him. They pick up the phone, they call the police, and they said, you better fucking take him back

because we don't want him anymore. And they never talk to him ever again. Finally, some criminals parents, I can stay in behind. I'm like, yes. Yeah, they were like, nope, not in my house. But like imagine the earth shattering feeling. Cause like you raised this person as like that's your kid. And now your kid is a full grown adult and they're

opposing kids like what? And so he was charged with 91 different charges which took one hour to read in court. Some of these charges are specific. He made a book like a manual. It wasn't like a book, it wasn't like a published book, but it was like a pedo manual, like the other ones did. Why do all of them like to do that, right? It's just so annoying. And I feel like they're on like this weird high horse

where they wanna like mentor new pedos. It's like what? They feel like they're so seasoned and seasoned. Yeah, but like why would you want that? Like why would you you want to be? See it goes getting big to this is the I believe everyone needs a community that they feel belong to But I feel like this community is making them feel like it's okay, and it's not okay You know and so he made a manual this one's gonna piss you off and it broke so many hearts in Malaysia

You released? No, the name was released. Just a name. Petaphiles and poverty, the child lover guide. So he liked to target Southeast Asian communities that were underfunded, that were impoverished. And he wrote a manual on how other people can do it because it's easier to be a pedophile in a poverty-stricken area. That's disgusting. He also started a crowd funding website so that he could raise money to travel

throughout Southeast Asia to keep raping kids and he did raise some money. On the dark web though. Yeah. Wow. Uh-huh. There was videos and photos of him assaulting lots of victims. One of them was really young and was wearing a diaper at the time. Oh man. There were quotes that he had left on the dark web.

This is a direct quote. I just hit the jackpot. A three-year-old girl as loyal to me as my dog and nobody seems to care. And that's what grooming does. Like when year three, that's what grooming is. Like these three year olds, yeah a lot of them are gonna cry and they're gonna refuse, but also a lot of them have been groomed to feel like oh no This is what adults and kids do like this is how adults show love every kid is experiencing this if they have a loving adult nearby That's how they think

He also wrote this is so heartbreaking Improved kids are definitely easier to seduce than middle class kids So like he's like yeah, let's go for the vulnerable. He said that is dream. He posted this on the dark web. His dream is to open up a foster care system to cycle kids in and out and make pedophilia his full-time job. So he could just sell those big kids. He's 30, I believe.

So they're all really hot. What the fuck? Yeah. So that's what I heard is that the kids are all really hot. So he could just sell those big hits. Oh, Jesus. He's 30, I believe. So they're all really hot. What the fuck? Yeah. So that's what I heard is that like when you think regular pedophilia, you're thinking

like these old dudes, but these days it's a lot of 20 and 30 year olds that are really good at technology. It's like our age. Yeah. Fucking crazy. First of all, I'm 25. Thank you, but sure. I agree. I'm kidding. Yeah. I know. I know what you're saying. Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy to me because like,

I feel like at this age, you're thinking about like, oh, should I have a kid soon? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then these people are like, should I date a kid? Like, what are you talking about, dude? Yeah. And so he also would go on to these websites and he would award himself points. Like I don't know why, like he would always like write things when he would post pictures, I guess, like a fucking blog. And he would award himself points. So some things that would gain him points is that he admitted to raping four girls from the same family and that gave him extra pedo points. Now if he had raped the same kid in the same week then he gets no points because why didn't he get someone new? He's like why didn't I just mentally and physically and sexually abuse someone else and go back to another

victim? So far the police could only prove him to have 29 victims. They found 20,000 photos and videos in his possession and they believe that's only a tiny percentage of his footage because up to today he refuses to let anyone into his computer and they could not get into his computer. The law enforcement agencies, they have his computer, they could not get into it. What? They could get into it. That's nuts. Yeah. They could not get into it. It's kind of crazy. Wow. But law enforcement agencies believe that it's up to 200 victims across Southeast Asia. 200 kids were sexually abused by Richard. They believe that because he had a notebook in his possession where he wrote down all the victims and he raided each victim based

on how much abuse he gave them. So I mean they can't take his word for it but they can only take the proof that they have which is 29 different victims in the 20,000 photos and videos. But I mean, it's bad. So at sentencing, this is Richard Huckle's direct quote, because you know, people were like, we need to give him a lot of time. And he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You need to give who a lot of time, me a lot of time, no way. And so this is what he said to the judge.

He said it with his full chest. He looked at the judge and he said this. I really understand and acknowledge the true scale of damage. It caused the Malaysian community. I had hoped to escape this mundane life of solitude in the United Kingdom. Yet I was so overwhelmed by the attention I received in Malaysia. I completely misjudged the affections I received from those children. My low self-esteem and lack of confidence with women was no excuse for me to use these children as an outlet. I am open and eager to rehabilitate from the suffending behavior. I don't want to become a martyr to sex tourism in Malaysia.

This was all my doing as a consequence of my immaturity and I'm truly remorseful. Just for that didn't add like 50 more years. I know. I know. First of all, I completely misjudged the affections I received from these children. Exactly. Healthy, happy children are affectionate because they're not traumatized. You think he's boasting or he's truly believes it. See that's what I don't know. You think he's bollshitting or he truly believes it? See, that's what I don't know. I almost lost my marbles today, like trying to research the psychology

behind these sick people. And there's like, not even, it's crazy to me that I can understand a little bit of the psychology of someone who has like, paranoid schizophrenia and goes on to like murder people. I'm like, I don't agree with it. Holy shit. But like, okay, like I can see what happened.

Yeah. But like this, I'm like, what are you talking about? And all of them have this like weird attitude of like, well guys, you guys are overreacting. It's not that serious. It's just the weirdest thing. So, in the UK, they decided to give him life in prison. However, he can be paroled in 23 years.

Which he probably will be. Malaysia, they put out statements. A lot of the press and a lot of Malaysians. They just stood by the phrasing. A thousand years is not enough. The judge said this was a campaign of rape through Southeast Asia. So, October 13th, 2019.

2019? Well, he was sentenced in 2015 or something. But in 2019, a couple months ago, like a year ago. Yeah. Richard Huckle was 33 years old and he was found strangled and stabbed in his prison cell. So I'll make it kill him? Let me tell you what happened.

So Paul Fitzgerald, oh yeah, Paul Fitzgerald, 29 years old, he's in prison, okay? November 23rd of 2020, like literally a couple weeks ago, was his trial for killing Richard Huckle. And he was, yeah, he was found guilty. Now, what happened right so this the judge said was one of the most sadistic prolonged premeditated torture killings it was an 80-minute attack against the pedophile it was designed to humiliate and degrade Richard Huckle Richard the pedophile was

tied up gagged strangled raped his was broken, a kitchen utensil was shoved in his anus, a pen with a blade attached to it was shoved into his brain via his nose. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, before that, this guy, who is he and why is he in there and what happened? Okay, exactly. So I'm like reading this, right? And I'm like, oh my god, Paul, like, you know what? I don't know why I'm in prison, Paul. Yeah. But I think like reading this right and I'm like, oh my god Paul like you know what? I don't know why I'm prison Paul. Yeah, I think I fucks with you. But why is he doing this? Because he's just a pedophile or he So that I wanted to research it too because I'm like I really hope that he's like this

You know what do you call it Robin Robin Hood a Batman a prison Batman Batman and jail right type of situation But then um, but then this is where Paul Fitzgerald completely lost me Because in trial he goes. Yeah, I also wanted to eat and cook his body And I said all Paul Paul. We were so close Paul you and I were so close to being pen pals Paul and he goes Yeah, I just got carried away but how much fun I was having and what I was doing at him. Wait so he's just crazy? Yeah he's a violent sex offender that's why he's in so good. So he has nothing to do with yeah that dude's a pet of a he just wanted to do some crazy shit. Yeah then he was

like eh this one seems like a good one and he did it and that's where I was like Paul! Paul, Paul, why? Why? We were so close, Paul. Yeah, that's very loud. Can you read the thing he did one more time? That was a lot. He tied up, gagged, strangled with an electrical cord. He raped him, broke his jaw, he shoved a kitchen utensil up his anus,

and he shoved a pen with a blade attached to it into Richard Huckle's brain by shoving it so deep into his nostril that it penetrated his brain. Am I smiling while I'm talking about this. What? Yeah. Okay, and he... What happened to him? Just life in prison forever. Okay. I think he already had life in prison. So, I think he already had life in prison.

Like at one point he had like held a police, like what do you call it, prison guard hostage at one point, like prior to this or something. So I was like, Paul, what's going on? So, yeah, what is the social reaction to what he did? It's kind of like me, like the people who didn't hear the rest of it, they were like, yeah, fuck yeah, whoever killed them, we're like, we're behind him. Let's, let's, let's do like a change.org, a petition to get him out. And then the minute that we're like, he wanted to cook it, we're like, oh, so he's not, he's not one of us. He's one of them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we thought he was one of us. But I like a short deal. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Turns out he's a little crazy. OK. So anyways anyways Richard Huckle dead Okay, so back to Matthew Graham the founder of hurt to core right

So how does he get caught? How does the founder who releases Daisy's destruction because he gets caught too? Matthew He ended up flaunting. Yeah, he flexed on them haters. So he's on 4chan, right? Which is like an anonymous website and he has an anonymous user name. It's not like Matthew D Graham, right? But he had decided to flex on someone and just like tell a random stranger on the internet that like, hey, you know the dark web?

I'm Lux. And if you know the dark web, you know who Lux is. And the FBI was literally looking for anyone named Lux. And they were like, oh, this fucker just said he was Lux. And let's trace his IP address. And because of that posting, they were able to trace his IP address to his house. Now what's crazy is that the police force, they first believed it was his dad a 50-year-old mechanic. They were like, nah, that's it. He's creepy, he's fucking weird, he's a mechanic, he's old, he's seasoned, he's pedophile material, right? And so they're like, we're gonna get this

fucker. His family is gonna be shook, his wife is gonna be destroyed, his kids are gonna be destroyed, right? And then one of the agents on the team realized, wait a second, I've been looking at everyone who lives in that house right? And we think it's the dad. But this 21 year old son Matthew, I can't find him anywhere, I can't find a no online footprint, no Twitter, no Facebook, nothing, that's fucking weird. Yeah that's fucking weird. Why wouldn't he have anything? And so that's when they're like, oh shit, it might be him. They also realize that he's a babysitter. That's how he makes, I mean, he's living with his parents, but that's how he makes his side money. He babysits six local kids and they're all under 10 years old. Oh my god. And what we do

know about pedophiles is that they tend to seek employment near old. Oh my god. And what we do know about pedophiles is that they tend to seek employment near children. So he was arrested. They also find out once Matthew is arrested that he was recently diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder, anxiety, depression, and he was again considered a non-contact offender. Now, once he gets interrogated by the police,

he absolutely refuses to unlock his computer. That's fucking crazy, though. This dude was caught by one sentence on fortune. Just like, hey, I'm Lux. Yeah, which is crazy to me because I feel like there's so many murder investigations that the FBI gets involved in and they do Jack shit. And then suddenly, one person says one sentence on forechan and like

We've got this global international search. I mean, I get it like different Yeah, there's partly there's like a whole group like a unit dedicated to searching these Yeah, but it's just like why can't the whole FBI and all these people be that competent, you know and so Once he gets interrogated he refuses to unlock his computer. He's like, I'm not doing it, no way, right. And he did unlock his phone because he firmly believed that there was nothing on his phone. Now, I don't know how this worked, but apparently there's like cash-shade images. You wouldn't be able to go into his photo library and see these pictures, but they were able to go into his cash-shade little thing, right? And they found three images.

Two of dead kids. One of a baby being stood on. What? Mm-hmm, that was used on his Hurtcore website. So if he hadn't unlocked his phone, he probably would have been released that day because they would have no legal grounds, really. Wow.

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Like it was enough to put him in prison, but it wasn't enough to not get him bail. So he would have gotten bail, he would have been released, and then he would have wiped everything. So then it would have just been like this shit show. So they also found inside of his house, there was two hard drives, right?

That weren't part of his computer. They sent one to Europe, in Germany, and then they sent the other one to the FBI in Washington, DC. And neither of them could unlock it. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Yeah, neither of them could unlock it. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Yeah, neither of them could unlock it.

And so finally, after just some mooch, straight up, old school interrogation and intimidation, he finally gave in and told the police his 64 random letter character symbol number password. 64 character? To his computer, just to open his computer. He memorized 64. And it wasn't a word, it wasn't his address,

it was a crazy 64. I don't trust people with long ass, because 64 character password. 64 characters of password. And that's what it takes. So sometimes you think you need some super fancy, you know, the two layer, you know, what is it called? Barification.

Oh, the Google Titan key. Yeah, all you need, just remember a long-ass random words. Because then they have to, I can't figure it out. I would think there's some supercomputer just like in the past. I think that's what I thought too. But like maybe, I can't figure it out. I would think there's some supercomputer just like in the past. Right, that's what I thought too. But like maybe, I don't know, maybe you don't have enough

chances, because then you could wipe the computer. Because it's like, you can set those settings even on like a regular iPhone that after 10 past coded times you're like done. So maybe that's why I don't know, they couldn't get in, which is crazy. And so September 2015, 23 year old Matthew Graham, he pleads guilty and he gets 15 years and 6 months.

Yep, and he is eligible for parole after 10 years. Yeah, the house that they used to live in was sold to new owners and they found in his closet that he had scribbled in parents should be afraid of having kids like us on the wall. Thankfully though, using his network, they were able to rescue 30 children. What about all the other petals? Yeah. Did they catch any of those? Nah, I mean they catch some but not really.

Oh my god. And then like with the set and things like this, it's crazy. And then like with, I heard with SCP, it's really hard because they try to pressure you to plead guilty. That's why they get such low set and says because the amount of money, the amount of trauma to get a jury to, I mean, do you show them the evidence? You know, like, how does that work?

So a lot of, um, CP, you'll see a lot of them plead guilty and get pretty light sentences because no one's trying to do like a full blown murder trial type situation. Because all of the evidence that they need to show the jury is CP right? No. So, back to Peter Scully. So, he creates Daisy's destruction in 2012. Like I said, it's got three victims. You've got a 12 year old, an 11 year old, and the 18 month old Daisy.

You've got Peter Scully involved. You've got Angel, his Filipino girlfriend. You've've got lovely his Filipino girlfriend who are both abusing Daisy Now he also post it to his website so Peter Scully has his own website on the dark web right and it's called NLF No limits fun is what it stands for and Majority of his clients who pay ten10,000 for a daisy's destruction resided in the US, Germany and Brazil. So after daisy's destruction gets leaks onto hard to the core by Matthew Graham, it starts blowing up. I

mean this was getting leaked into chat rooms, forums, mainly Europe. I mean it was kind of becoming the talk of the town, even on not Dark Web. So you've got Dark Web people watching it, being like, have you seen Daisy's destruction? And then you've got people coming to like places like 4chan, reddit, Facebook being like, hey, I heard of like this crazy thing on the Dark Web. Nobody's saying go watch it, but they're just like saying like, this is the type of shit on the Dark Web. Like, it almost became an urban legend. It almost became like one of those things of like did you know if you go to the dark web

There's something called the red room where like you see people murder people like it became like one of those things But it is a hundred percent real. It's a true video that existed and so it first hits the radar of the Dutch national child Exploitation team right so the Dutch national child exploitation team, right? So the Dutch police and they picked this shit up They're looking into it now. They're realizing oh my god. This is not what we expected like they can only handle so much at this point They don't know where this was filmed. They don't know who's involved. What are their nationalities and where these kids are when it was filmed They don't know anything. They don't know the fate of these children They don't know these children are still alive or being held captive They need help and so they they spread it pretty much all the police departments and this was a global search

I mean anybody who was anybody in any police force was like looking for them like all these government agencies Okay, well, I don't want to say police force because like obviously like the LAPD wasn't looking for them But I'm talking like federal agencies, right? They don't even know who they're looking for. Yeah, so they're doing everything they can, right? Now, as they're looking through the footage, they're concluding that it was probably shot in the Philippines.

They're looking at the kids, so the kids, they were not blurred or pixelated in any way. So the two females were wearing masks. You've got one male who had a pixelated face. The kids, they looked Filipino. So they're like, okay, this probably was filmed in the Philippines because there's no reason for you to go to a country and then kidnap the kids and get on a flight. Like that's just causing more start. You probably do the crime where the kids are, right? And so they're like, okay, they're probably considered

orphans, like these kids, you know, 18 months is so young. There's no mom who's gonna be like, let me do this to my own 18 month old, or there's not gonna be like someone who's like, just take my kid, right? So they're like, okay, these kids, these victims, are probably orphans. Now, in they suspected, they weren't just orphans,

but they were considered street kids like I was talking about, right? Just kind of left on the side of the street. So the police start making up this theory, they're like, okay, so it's made in the Philippines. The two masked women, they're really tan. We don't really get to see their face, but they have a fit body, they seem young. Like, they're kind of analyzing like the wrinkles

of the body and all of that, right? And just by what they can see, they think that they're in their late teens early 20s. They're also speaking in broken English, right? And then the man, who's not really in frame most of the time, but the brief glimpses when he is in frame or when he's fraping the 18 month old, he's super pale. Super pale. Right. And he's speaking fluent English. It seems like he did try to hide his accent a little bit, but it's Fluent English so then this gets taken over by all the English speaking countries

I'm talking like the UK the USA and that's when Australia was like oh shit. That's our accent like that's us for sure Like that do be Australian Okay, they're like oh no bits So they're looking into anyone in their database. Like, who could this be? Like, why would they be in the Philippines? Why would this Australian man? Because, you know, if you're Australian,

but you are born in the Philippines, you're probably not gonna have that Australian accent still, right? And so they're like, why would they be there? And they're looking through all of their records and they're like, could it be Peter Scully? We were looking for him for all these fraud cases. We believe he was in Malaysia. They tied it honestly because it's like Malaysia and Philippines were very close to each other. So they're like, we thought

he went to Malaysia. He tried to pimp out his Malaysian girlfriend and we haven't heard from him since. Okay. It seems like he has a tendency to love Asian women. He is not afraid to pimp them out and start escort services. So they started opening up tips and leads and they got Hello tips and leads. About that, dude? About just everyone. Okay. Everyone in their mom, right?

But it would still take them years. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then there was the Grave incident. So after Daisy's destruction was filmed, Peter decides to confront his two girlfriends, Angel and Lovely, and says, listen,

I'm looking for an opportunity to change a kid's life. Peter, you and I have very different definitions of changing a kid's life. He says, I'm looking to change a kid's life You all know me. I'm a charitable man And so I want you guys to go out into the street and find some street kids to be adopted by me I'm not gonna legally adopt them of course, but I'm just gonna let them live in this house And I'm gonna feed them provide them shelter

You know just like be an overall good upstanding citizen and so at point, Angel is really persuading him against this. And her main thing was like, wait, my sister's a street kid, why can't you just like bring my sister in and like take care of my sister, like what the fuck, right? And so he's like, nope, I need to have two different girls.

And so he's like, listen, Angel, you're gonna go out and you're gonna go find two girls and don't you dare come home without these two girls. I want one of them and this is so odd. He said specifically one of them has to be nine years old and the other one has to be 12 years old, okay? Like thanks. So she's like what okay so she goes out. She goes finds cousins who are orphans. One of them is nine, one of them is twelve. And so with the promise of food and shelter they come back and they remember that Angel kept referring to Peter as the American

So even though he had an australian accent they just consider Yeah, she's just kept being like oh, well the American's home and he's gonna feed us right? And so she ends up dropping off the girls and leading I don't know if she had like an appointment because like I said Peter would sell her off to a lot of men for like multiple days at a time and so she just like left Peter gave them food. Peter gave the two girls alcohol. And then Peter forced the cousins to undress and perform sexual acts on each other

while he photographed and filmed everything to post on the dark web. Now for the next five days, he would do this while he raped them as well. He would rape them, film that post that pay-per-view, he would have them do things to each other, film that post that pay-per-view. That was like his thing, right? And at one point, they were like screaming so much and trying to escape that he forced

them to dig their own graves in the basement, and he says, just your way, you fucking act up and you're gonna be buried there. So then they were becoming a little bit more complacent because I mean like, like digging your own grave, listen, I know it sounds dumb to like to just like grab a shovel and like dig and then suddenly you're like, oh you're right, like let me do everything you tell me to do. But like imagine the psychological torment of digging your own grave, like that is, I think that's unparalleled And so they become a little bit more complacent five days later angel comes back home and now some reports say that

Lovely was there and she was helping with the torture like smothering them with a pillow, but it's not certain So I don't know for sure But I do know that angel comes home five days later and she sees the girls. I mean like this is crazy five days later and she sees the girls. I mean like this is crazy. So she angel was part of Daisy's destruction where they poured hot candle wax on an 18 month old's genitals, right? But she comes home and she sees these two cousins wearing dog collars and she's like, oh my god, I need to let them go. This is too much. This is, this is past my morals. This is past my breaking point. So she sees the five, like five days later, the two girls and dog collars. They tell her, oh my god, the American rape does, right? So she somehow just like lets them leave. She just unchains them from their dog collars. They run out, they're released. They rush out and they go to the police and they tell them everything.

Okay. Now, that's when the police are like, okay, they have the description, right? And the description is matching a lot of things people have seen on the internet. The dark web. So they're like, oh fuck. So what they do is like, they know the general idea because the girl told them like, this is the general area where we were kidnapped. And they just knocked door to door and looked at the picture and tried to match it up with

the description of the place. And when they knocked on Peter's schoolies door, they were like, this is the fucking place because it matches the description. So in 2015, 2015. Just like that. Yeah. Wow. 2015, he was arrested for 75 different charges, including murder, rape and fraud.

Yeah. Now, here's what's crazy. We know that he kidnapped the girls. He knows that, the world knows that. We know that he raped them. We know that he committed a lot of fraud in Australia. But Daisy's destruction, there's no direct link to Peter. They can prove it.

It's all circumstantial evidence, right? Why can Daisy and not Daisy, why can't lovely and angel just say that's him? Because it wouldn't matter, it would be he said she said, because now there's motive. So if you get those two girls to say, no, it was him, but then like the jury is like, oh, well, are they getting immunity for this? You know, are they getting it for this?

So they just, because his face is not in the video. Yes. So here's the thing. Uh-huh. They needed to open up his computers, because if they can find anything, that's it. That's you're the one that made it. You got an SD card, you got a camera, you got this, they just, they're looking for evidence. They're looking for evidence of more videos that they want to get him. They want to get him good. Now, the pollution, the phylo-paints, they at the time were known for corruption.

Okay. And magically, the room where all of Peter's electronics, all of them, every single computer, every single phone every single phone every single camera SD card everything hard drives Set on fire And nothing was recoverable So you think Peter gave them money? Almost everyone believes a police officer was bribed like not the the whole department, just like one. By Peter. Yeah. Wow. Yep. So there is no evidence, no strong conclusive evidence to Peter taking part in

Daisy's destructions or on any dark web forums or anything like that. or on any dark web forums or anything like that. Wow. The only proof that the police had was the kidnapping and the torture of the girls for five days. Now in jail, you would think that. How long was he just waiting for trial? Yeah, now you would think that Peter would really just tuck his tail between his legs, right?

No, Peter was really demanding in jail. He demanded that the jail officer give him a cell phone to use because he was bored. He wanted fresh meat for dinner because all of the meat that he was being served was old. His like, is this meat like three weeks fresh? I can tell. He was like, I want some fresh eggs.

I want pork. Oh my god, this prison sells so hot. I need you to get me an electrical fan, right? Everything was denied, obviously, because they're like, I'm sorry, who the fuck are you? You're a peto, no. And so Peter and Peter's sister from Australia, they contact Australian ambassadors about this horrendous treatment that they're receiving in the Philippines.

Uh-huh. Nobody did anything, because they're like, yeah, shut up. And so he was then charged with one computer sister is a clown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Peter sister, you a clown. You're talking about. Yeah. And so at this point, Angel and Peter were found, right? And arrested. And for one count of human trafficking, five counts of rape, and the Philippines, they were thinking about bringing back the death penalty at this point.

They were like, we might wanna do that, but they couldn't. So in 2018, they both were receiving life sentences. Yeah. That was their life sentences, yes. However, lovely. Lovely was caught a little bit later than Peter and Angel. So one of the girlfriends, the 19 year old, the one who did the most

destruction on Daisy in the video, she was caught when she was 23. Now she's like 25, 26. She's like my age. It's fucking nuts. And she was living a lavish life under the name Shannon Carpio. She was living in this high rice affluent condo near the beach in the Philippines and she had a bunch of gym friends. She said that she was the wife of a French software millionaire and she was just paying for drinks. She had these glamorous photoshoot. Oh my god, I need to show you a picture of her because it's kind of crazy. Wait, you were talking about before she was getting caught. Yeah. So basically she got away. Like Peter and Angel were caught and she got away. Yeah. And she started living a lavish life. Yeah. How? Where she got the money from? I'll tell you. Wait, but she knows that there she's still being actively looked for after.

Uh-huh. And she's just like, let me post these on Facebook by the name Shannon, Carpio. No one will know. Facebook by the name Shannon Carpio. No one will know. What? Yeah. Is that not crazy? What? It's forget not. And so, yeah, she was like posting her in bikinis at the beach like having like a Randall time. And yeah, she told everyone it was because she was the wife of a French software millionaire.

Uh-huh. Later turns out she remained in touch regularly with Peter Scully and all of that money was from his child pornography that she was spending. So she's still making money? Or she's still getting money from that? Yeah. And so then of course she was caught and she was brought to trial and she also got life. And so then of course she was quatt and she was brought to trial and she also got life.

I'm real. Now what's the conclusion of Daisy's destruction? The police were able to track down Daisy. She was alive. When they found her she was a toddler at this point. She will have significant lasting physical damage. And that's not including the mental and emotional damage and trauma but just physically speaking she has a lot of injuries that will be with her for the rest of her life. 12-year-old Liza was found alive. 11-year-old Cindy was found dead.

She was strangled with a rope to death, buried under the floor of a house that Peter Skully used to live in. So lovely, she told the police that he made a video for the dark web and even made the 11-year-old dig her own grave, and the killing the murder was actually filmed for the internet and he had sold it to people and he had made a lot of money from it. That video I don't know has been found from what I could tell it hasn't been found yet, so I don't know if the police are actively looking for it, if they're like, ah, case closed, like the dudes in jail. We also, we know that Cindy's name isn't her real name.

We think that it was a daughter by the name of Barbie. So she had parents who were really excited because this American man had approached their family with, you know, his girlfriends translating everything and he said that he is a terrible person and he wanted to bring in impoverished kids into his house to teach them English, to give them an education that was really rare in that community in the Philippines. And so she had sent Barbie to live with him. And she believes that that's Barbie under his, that was dead, that was in the video.

For some reason there's no confirmation on it. But um... Now, there was one more urban legend that came from this and this I will tell you is an urban legend Okay, so that was the conclusion of Daisy's destruction now recently like maybe a year or two ago There was talks about a video called Daffo love. I don't know what Daffo means, right? But it was called Daffo love and a lot of people were talking about it on Reddit, right? And it's supposedly allegedly a video on the dark web made by Peter Scully and the two women

torturing several babies to death. And they would say things like they used a chisel and a hammer to break open baby skulls what they were alive. They disemboweled babies. They beat two babies together pretending to be a pillow fight. The adults would use babies as pillows and do a pillow fight. And so this caused a lot of stir of people being like holy shit like what's going on isn't Peter and Jail right?

And from what we can tell it's completely an urban legend. If not, it's like inspired by a creepy pasta that was written, that was inspired by Daisy's destruction, but a lot of people, they kind of ran with it. So there's a lot of people, I think there's this one YouTuber who keeps telling people, I don't think it's real at all. Pretty sure it's just a urban legend. There's like no reports other than like a couple redditors and like one YouTuber being like, this is real, I saw it. Yeah, so if you guys, I just don't want anyone to be like, what about tofu love?

Yeah, so I think that one's an urban legend. I'm pretty sure Well, this is a really eye-opening case. Yeah to the dark web. I'm gassy Gassy it's like if you google the pictures of these dudes faces They look normal and I don't say that in like oh my god, you know, Ed King look normal He didn't look that normal like he looked a little creepy let's be real like if I saw Ed King at the bar I probably wouldn't be like hey It'd be like But like they all look so normal.

Shock me, man. This case. They're all young. Darkweb, yeah. They're all in college or have college jobs, lives, a long-term girlfriend that's of age. Successful with technology. How many people downloads, watches these things on the daily? And lot of how less of sentence take it. Yeah, this is nuts so

That's what's on the dark web I'm sorry that today's podcast was just another edition of Let's lose hope in humanity one more time so I hope you guys enjoyed today's highly requested case of Daisy's destruction, which unfortunately is not an urban legend. But stay safe out there. Don't be doing stuff on the internet. And if you are underage, you shouldn't have been listening. I probably should have said that in the beginning. But if you made it this far, be careful about what you put on the internet, please.

And I love you guys so much and I'll see you next week. Bye. Bye.