Rotten Mango - #275: Teen Threw Baby in Trash Can After Giving Birth in Hospital Bathroom

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

Within the busy halls of a hospital, a terrifying story unfolded. Alexee Trevizo, 19 years old, raced towards the restroom, clutching her backside in a desperate struggle. She locked the bathroom door... behind her and time stretched on—5 minutes, then 10, and eventually 20—fueling the growing apprehension among the nursing staff. When Alexee swung open the door - the nurses saw the entire bathroom was covered in red blood. Hospital staff rushed to clean up the biohazard only to stumble upon Alexee’s haunting secret concealed within the bathroom trash can. She had been 9 months pregnant. She had given birth in the bathroom. And now there was a dead baby at the bottom of the bin. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com Rotten Mango (Cadence13) is sponsored by BetterHelp To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bramble. Dr. Vaskest had been a practicing medical doctor for years. She was seasoned, knowledgeable, and because she worked in the emergency department, she had seen just about everything. The fragility of human life, the total loss of death, and everything in between, she had seen everything. Nothing. Absolutely nothing could have prepared her for the alleged murder who would walk through
Starting point is 00:00:25 those hospital doors that very night. Is there relatively quiet night in the emergency room? Which you would never dare say that out loud. Did you know? It's actually a tradition in almost every single hospital, at least in the US. It's a superstition amongst healthcare workers that if someone says out loud, oh, what a slow night or they comment anything about it being a slow night or not that busy. The rest of the shift is doomed to be crazy busy.
Starting point is 00:00:52 So no one said no one uttered a word, but it was kind of a slow night. All their efforts would be in vain because within an hour, the hospital's emergency department would descend into a crime scene. Resulting in one of the most high-profile first-degree murder cases, involving the death of a child that we've seen in a very long time. And this is a very recent case.
Starting point is 00:01:15 The crime took place January of 2023, and arrest was made May of 2023, so just a month and a half ago, really. Now, Dr. Vazquez would have two patients that night. One would be the alleged murder, and the other would be the victim. The full show notes are going to be available at ronmangopodcast.com. But today's case involves a lot of heavy and controversial content regarding pregnancy, abortion, adoption, women's health, and topic-sider, especially turbulent
Starting point is 00:01:46 with the current politics of the US. So with that being said, reporting on this case is in no way a political statement or representative of personal opinions. I think a lot of the discussions about this case revolve around the politics of it all. And I do think that those are important discussions to have. The purpose of today's episode is to sift through all of the speculations and present what we know so far in a way that does baby dough justice. Hopefully we're able to accomplish that, but just keep in mind that this case is currently ongoing with a trial scheduled for October of this year, just a reminder that legally, no one has been convicted of absolutely anything
Starting point is 00:02:26 as of right now. So with that being said, there is CCTV footage inside of a hospital's hallway that shows a 19 year old woman half skipping, half running out of her treatment room and be lining it for the restroom. She's holding her butt with her left hand and the staff members who saw her run through the hallway, they kind of rode it off as like a potty dance. You know, it's similar to when kids have been holding a poo for a really long time. They sort of like jump around and they try to distract themselves. Plus, it's the emergency department during the night shift. So the staff are not going
Starting point is 00:02:58 to be grossed out or scared of a little bit of poo or someone who has to go really bad. They had seen so much worse. So Lori, who's a certified nursing assistant, she recalled seeing this 19 year old girl named Alexi, urgent run through the hallway and thought, well, you know what, if you got to go, you got to go. A minute or two later, 19 year old Alexi's mother Rosa knocks on the bathroom door to check up on her daughter. She's like, hey, Alexi's mother Rosa knocks on the bathroom door to check up on her daughter. She's like, hey, Alexi, are you okay in there?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Now these are one of the single toilet bathrooms, so it's not a public restroom with the swinging door and a bunch of stalls inside. It's one person, one toilet, one sink. The mom returns to their treatment room after Alexi insists, like, hey mom, I'm just constipated. Give me some time. Nurse Chris, he's the next person to check on Alexi in the bathroom. He knocks on the door.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Alexi, it's Nurse Chris. Are you doing okay? She responded with the same thing that she told her mom. So Chris gave her some privacy because, I mean, you don't really think anything's alarming when someone's constipated. Then another nurse checks on Alexi. Alexi refused to help once more. So through nurse checks on Alexi. Alexi refused help once more.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So through the door, the nurse told Alexi to pull the red emergency cord if she needed absolutely anything and it would send a page to the nurse's station. How long has it been? Like 10, 15 minutes. Oh, okay. So they're like, okay, so let's give Alexi some space. Now at this point, none of them had any reason to believe
Starting point is 00:04:24 that she wasn't just really constipated or did they? So as the time passes, the minutes take by Nurse Chris Paces and he's waiting for his patient to come out and his mind starts wandering to the events leading up to this abnormally long bathroom break. Like you feel like you're in the bathroom for a really long time when you're constipated, but it's never like 20 minutes long. So, let's bring it back to the beginning of Alexi's emergency room visit.
Starting point is 00:04:51 She was not there for constipation. I'll tell you that. Alexi came into the ER with lower back pain. She said early in the evening that night, she felt this intense lower back pain, and she thought, maybe I'll just sleep it off. She tries to go to sleep, the pain's getting worse, the pain's not going away. And she wakes her mom up, they drive to the emergency room. And that evening, it's quite late into the night.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's January 26, 2023. And it's actually Alexi's second time at this hospital, at the Articia General Hospital ER, in the past like two months. Okay, it was the same reason. Yeah, December of 2022. So like a month before she was there. Now Nurse Chris was Alexis' first point of contact.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He was responsible for triaging patients that night. Basically, he's in charge of asking the patients general questions, taking vitals, getting background and starting a patient chart. Nurse Chris was in charge of prioritizing which patients were seen first, like who's before, who the order of admission, if you will. Now Nurse Chris noted that Alexis only remarkable symptoms were a somewhat elevated heart rate and a report that her back pain was a 10 on a scale of 1 through 10 of pain with 10 being the worst.
Starting point is 00:06:04 What? So this could mean a lot of 1 through 10 of pain with 10 being the worst. So this could mean a lot of things for a nurse. I mean, did she break her back? Did her spine get compromised? She was admitted into one of the treatment rooms in the ER for her pain and her assigned doctor with Dr. Heather Vasquez. Now Dr. Vasquez is like a superwoman doctor. She was the attending emergency physician
Starting point is 00:06:25 at the general hospital, but also the medical director for another clinic. So she's been practicing medicine for like the past 20 years or so. If anyone in that ER knew what they were doing, it was Dr. Vasekess, but I mean, all of them knew what they were doing. You get it. And she noticed a lot of strange things about a lexie. So first of all, Dr. Vazquez attempted to do a full
Starting point is 00:06:48 workup on a lexie, but a couple of things were making it very hard for her. Alexi did not let Dr. Vazquez touch her. Adol. Adol. And was almost too spatially aware of how her body moved and how close Dr. Vazquez was getting to her. Second, Alexi was unable to sit still, which could be due to a lot of things, especially back pain, you could be fidgeting, you could be trying to get comfortable, but it seemed
Starting point is 00:07:17 more of like a nervous fidget rather than like a painful fidget. Like oh I'm in pain, I'm trying to get into a comfortable position. How do you get checked up for back pain without getting touched? So that's why Dr. Vaskis is like, this doesn't feel that normal. Like, I don't know what's going on right now. Does she have a condition where she is genuinely afraid of touch? Like, what's going on, right?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Now, Dr. Vaskis's brain immediately began to signal, okay, well, regardless of that, looking at her symptoms, I think it's probably either kidney stones or pregnancy. And back pain can be so many different things, but with just this suspicious body language of Alexi, it just seemed to tip Dr. Vasquez's diagnostic radar, something else was going on here. She just felt like she wasn't getting the full story.
Starting point is 00:08:03 So Dr. Vasquez asked Alexi multiple times if there was any chance that she could be pregnant. Now side note, we do have a few people close to us that are either studying to be in the medical field or are in the medical field and for anyone with the uterus, medical staff are taught to assume that there is always a chance for pregnancy. It is such an important part of people with the uterus is health care and it can have a huge impact on treatment. Like plans on what medications can and cannot be used, if symptoms are related to pregnancy or it's something else that needs to be investigated, that's why pregnancy is its own field of medicine. It can change so much about the care process.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Okay. So I mean it's not like they're trying to be insensitive. They just have to constantly ask you if you're pregnant. So there's certain medications you can't be given, certain operations you can't have. It's very important. It was important for Dr. Vazquez to know. And she explained this to Alexi and her mother Rosa, who was also in the treatment room. So she's like, mom, daughter, you got to tell me. Rose of the mom commented, under no circumstances, absolutely not is Alexi pregnant. I have been buying her pads every single month, she's on her period, every single month,
Starting point is 00:09:13 she's not pregnant. And Alexi agreed. Anytime Alexi was questioned about pregnancy or sexual activity, partners, protection, she insisted that one, she was a virgin, and two, there was absolutely no chance that she could be pregnant. And because healthcare workers only know
Starting point is 00:09:32 what the patient tells them, Dr. Vaskas decided to start by doing some tests to narrow down some possible diagnoses. And that way, once again, you know, if they know what's wrong, they can help treat it. So just to note, at this point in the treatment, the main concern is her back pain. The treatment is probably alleviating the pain while finding the root of the problem. This is what the medical staff think they're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So they start running some tests, and they just want to rule out things. Kidney stones, GI obstruction, they would need a cat scan, an azoprakoshen, and most likely protocol, a urine strip pregnancy test was ordered. Now, urine pregnancy tests are notoriously quick at producing results. The commercial ones that you buy at like Walgreens and you bring at home and do it, they function similarly to the clinically used ones. So, it's almost always the first test result to come back when you're at the hospital. It's like the quickest. The pregnancy test for Alexi comes back positive.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And not like a thin, oh wait, can you see that line? Like nurse Chris, can you see this line? Like maybe I'm just imagining a line. Do you see it to result? It was an unmistakably clear result that Alexi Trevizo was indeed pregnant. But how can that be? She and her mother insisted that for however many months she has been on her period, she's virgin Mary, she doesn't have sex, no partners, so what's going on?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Maybe it's a false positive? Did you know false positives are pretty rare compared to false negatives? So Dr. Vazquez ordered an HCG blood test to be 100% sure. So the blood test is a lot more accurate and a lot more precise than in your intestine. The urine test just tells you, if you're pregnant or not, the blood test can tell you how far along in just station you are. So this is happening right there and there. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 She's like, okay, let's do another one. Yeah, but they don't tell her that she's pregnant. Oh, they didn't tell her when they got the first result. Wow. They're like, maybe it's a false negative, so let's run the blood. Okay. Because she's insisting she's not pregnant. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And she doesn't look pregnant. So you know, maybe she's not. The blood test can even assist in the the diagnosis of abnormal pregnancies like an ectopic pregnancy or possible miscarriage. This is also important. I'm so sorry. Okay, so just to be clear. Wait, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Is this the first visit or the second visit? The first, second visit. Oh, okay. This is January. This is like going on that night. Oh yeah, that night. So now just to be clear, now the focus goes from back pain. I wonder what that's from to to, oh she's pregnant,
Starting point is 00:12:05 but let's just make sure and hopefully it's not an ectopic pregnancy because that can cause abnormal back pain. Now an ectopic pregnancy as of right now are unfortunately 100% non-viable. It's where the embryo, the fetus basically, implants in the fallopian tubes instead of the uterus. Think of a fallopian tube as like thin spaghetti-like pieces. I mean, there is no way for that, if there's an embryo inside of the fallopian, there's no way for the pregnancy to come to term. And if it does continue to grow, it can cause excruciating pain, including back pain and potential for hemorrhage. It could be life-threatening to the mother.
Starting point is 00:12:45 So, Alexi's suspected cause for her pain and her positive pregnancy test it suggested to all the medical staff that maybe she's having an ectopic pregnancy. And remember, up until this point, Dr. Vasequez has not been able to touch Alexi, let alone do a routine physical exam and Alexi is wearing super baggy clothes.
Starting point is 00:13:06 She appeared to be a normal teenager who just kind of rolled out of bed and went to urgent care. She was wearing large black sweats and a big orange t-shirt, like a high school t-shirt. So when you picture a full term pregnant woman, their belly is unmistakable. You know, even in a big t-shirt, it's unmistakable. Alexi, on top of that, was very short. Like, she's just a little over five foot one. So, any time a petite woman is pregnant,
Starting point is 00:13:32 it's like even more obvious due to the proportions. Alexi did not look heavily pregnant at all. So, Dr. Vascas and her care team had no reason to suspect that Alexi was anywhere near a full term. So, yes, the urineguest and her care team had no reason to suspect that Alexi was anywhere near full-term. So, yes, the urine test confirmed she was pregnant, but because she wasn't showing they rightfully assumed it was maybe her first trimester. Now, anyway, they're about to confirm it with the HCG pregnancy test, so it's just kind
Starting point is 00:13:58 of a waiting game for the results. That panel, the blood panel, would take remarkable longer than a urine strip test, so as they wait, the healthcare team, they update Alexi and Rosa for what they're waiting for. Now, this is also when they officially report to the positive pregnancy result to Alexi and Rosa, her mom. So that, indeed, is just confirming that everyone, mom, patient, doctor, nurse, everyone knows
Starting point is 00:14:26 that Alexi has tested positive for pregnancy, but we're still going to confirm it with a blood test. They had no idea how far along she was. They didn't know anything else to tell her, this is just what they have. And as of right now, Alexi still will not let Dr. Vazquez touch her. So now on Alexi's care team, we have Dr. Vazquez who is unable to provide adequate care because Alexi refuses to let her touch her. And then we met Nurse Chris who first triage delexy and heard of her initial symptoms of back pain, got her into the treatment room,
Starting point is 00:14:56 and now we have Nurse HT. He goes by his initials, so I'm going to keep it that way, but HT was the charge nurse that night. And the charge nurse is the leadership role, so he's basically on charge of all the nurses on that shift. And he had been a nurse for years. In the past, he served for the Marines. He was actually provided health care for the military bases. And this man, just like everyone else in this hospital, very, very qualified. Nurse HT wasn't necessarily put on a Lexi's case, but Nurse Chris came to him with a bunch
Starting point is 00:15:26 of concerns. Chris was kind of worried. He said it just didn't feel right about the positive pregnancy test. And the fact that mother and daughter were so adamant that it was impossible that she was pregnant is just, they just kept saying she was a virgin. But the pregnancy test came back positive, so I don't know. Nurse Chris told Nurse HT, you know, she's saying like, there's absolutely no way she's a virgin and she reported that she had her period every single month like clockwork.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Chris told H.T. about how upset Alexi's mom Rosa was and how she was processing the news that the urine test came back positive. And it was just so odd that both mom and daughter seemed to be in complete and utter denial. And the mom wasn't even helping the situation. Nurse Chris felt like it was just it was getting to a weird point. Rosa kept asking Alexi things like, why don't you tell me you were supposed to come to me first. Wait, wait, wait. So when they told them that she's pregnant, what did they say? They're like, no, there's no no way and then the mom turns to the daughter And it's like why didn't you tell me yours was come to me first? Oh, so the mom is
Starting point is 00:16:31 Recognized yeah, recognize that she is pregnant. Yeah, and so it's like just getting very bizarre and Nurse Chris is just ranting to Nurse HT so charge nurse HT he'd seen a lot of things in his career. And Rosa and Alexi's actions up until this point to him, we're pretty par for the course. You know, it was an emotional situation and totally common for the topic of sexual activity to cause friction between the parent and child. But he tells Chris, if it escalates, there are options, you know, because the patient's chart states that Alexia's 19, she is an adult. We don't need a guardian in the room.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So if the mom is making it hard for her to receive healthcare or making it difficult for this patient to be honest and not front legally, we have every right to escort the mom outside to the waiting room. Because she is a legal adult and she doesn't need a guardian present, she's 19. Now this part is going to be very, very pertinent to the story that Alexi is a 19 year old high school student living with her mom. It just complicates a lot of things. So even though she's legally an adult, maybe they have a relationship where it still feels like she's a minor and she's treated us such.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Back to the situation at hand. Nurse's H.T. and Chris both agree that they're going to wait and see if the back and forth between the mom and daughter continue, and if that's the case, they're going to lead Rose out to the waiting room. But till then, they're still waiting for the blood panel results. Dr. Vasequez had other patients waiting on her, and just sitting around with Alexi wasn't helping anyone, so Dr. Vasequez could only wait and just sitting around with Alexi wasn't helping anyone, so Dr. Vasequez could only wait
Starting point is 00:18:07 and help ease some of Alexi's symptoms of back pain. She prescribed morphine, Zofran, and sodium chloride. Now morphine is a narcotic used to treat pain. Zofran is used to alleviate nausea, and sodium chloride is basically to replenish your electrolytes. It's not even a prescription medication.
Starting point is 00:18:27 It's let it go over the counter thing. So we're going to come back to these meds later, but this is going to help Alexi while they wait for the results. Now, the doctors and nurses, they would lose the race against time. The results would not come quick enough. And what many believe to be murder would take place that very night in that very hospital. While they're waiting, Alexi runs to the hallway bathroom.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It looks like she's trying to rush to poop. Nothing alarming, like I said, the nurses had seen worse. But after what feels like quite a bit of time, the nurse Chris, he starts getting a bit concerned. And on top of that, he was hearing some abnormal activity in the bathroom. It was like flush. Pause. Paper towel dispenser. Paper towel dispenser.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Flush. Pause. Paper towel dispenser. Paper towel dispenser. Wait, that's... Wait, she's pregnant. Could she be having a miscarriage? Chris calls for Laurie who rushes over and she hears the same thing. A few more flushers went by and Lori tells Chris, what if she's having a miscarriage in there and she's flushing everything down the toilet. They attempt to call out to Alexi again asking her to come out so that they can make sure that she's okay. But instead they hear, flush, pause, paper towel dispenser, no response.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So the risk we're escalating now as a Vilexie's care team, you know, they're starting to get incredibly worried that she's either miscarrying or hurting herself in an attempt to miscarry because to the staff, you know, she just found out that she's pregnant, she's 19, she's a high school student, it's not completely unreasonable. Also, anytime a patient is locked in a bathroom
Starting point is 00:20:03 over the normal allotted time, and they're not responding, it's a cause is locked in a bathroom over the normal allotted time, and they're not responding, it's a cause for concern in a hospital. She was in the bathroom for about 20 minutes. She entered around 1.38 a.m. and came out around 2 a.m. Alexi's care team attempted to check up on her multiple times, and she was not responding. Dr. Vasquez ended up telling the staff and I quote, you need to get her out of there right now. So Chris calls to Lori to retrieve the master key
Starting point is 00:20:30 from the nurse's station around the corner. And as Lori is hustling to grab the keys and run over, Chris is knocking on the door and giving Alexi one final warning, Alexi, please open the door or else we will have to open ourselves and make sure that you are safe. The flushing stops. Lori is jingling the keys in front of the bathroom door and is about to put the master key in
Starting point is 00:20:50 and at the very last second, Alexi unlocks the bathroom door and she's just standing in front of them almost looking dazed. And as a reflex, Lori turns around, kind of giving Alexi some privacy. It just felt very weird and prioritizing putting the master key away since Dr. Vazquez and Nurse Chris were already there. So as Laurie returns the keys down the hall and once Alexi is out of the threshold of the door frame, Chris gets a clear view into the bathroom that she was just in. All he saw was red. The site caught him off guard and he asked Alexi, what happened? We're blood everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Oh yeah, like walls on the tiles everywhere. Not just the toilet, like walls everywhere, sink. Alexi just responded that she was on her period. Both Chris and Dr. Vazquez saw the amount of blood. They were both under the oppression that this is not just blood from a heavy flow, the volume and the kind of like the consistency and the circumstances of everything,
Starting point is 00:21:54 they all pointed to an early term miscarriage. And remember, there is still no indication that Alexei was full term. She's petite, she's 19, a cheerleader, her belly had little indication of anything else floating around inside, except perhaps some natural bloating. She wore baggy clothes, she refused to let the doctors or nurses touch her during her triage and exam.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So why do I keep reiterating that? Because as of right now, they are still after seeing all this blood. Everyone is treating this as a 19-year-old that is too scared, too emotional, to come to terms with the fact that she was pregnant and just suffered a miscarriage. They have no idea that they're dealing with an alleged murderer, and that also means hospital staff were not looking for a victim or a baby. Dr. Vaskas immediately ushered Zalaxi back into her treatment room, and she knew that she had to perform a vaginal exam as soon as possible to assess what happened in there.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Another staff member in the room was also assisting Dr. Vaseguest. And so with Dr. V taking care of Alexi, Chris, the nurse Chris and Lori, they take on the task of cleaning up what they believed to be a miscarriage. So Lori contacts Lila, who is part of the housekeeping team of the hospital, and she notice, she notifies her that there is a cleanup needed in the hallway bathroom. There has been a miscarriage. Lori goes in before Lila arrives and notes like the viscosity and the thickness of the blood was consistent with miscarriage in some aspects. It definitely wasn't a period. There was so much blood.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I mean, smears on the wall, as well as almost like a bizarre splatter pattern. So she said it's almost like if you had a balloon filled with blood and you kind of popped it. The blood was bright red, the smell was penetrating, and another nurse, I'm gonna keep her name anonymous, but she stopped by to see what was going on and why the bathroom was painted in blood.
Starting point is 00:23:45 She was so appalled by the state of the bathroom that something deep down inside of her told her to take pictures. She would take pictures and allegedly she would take them to the police. Now if those pictures still exist, we don't know because the police have been very, very hush-hush about it. These would be the only permanent pieces of evidence regarding the blood of the crime scene. The other reports are just eyewitness testimonies by hospital staff.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Housekeeper Lila arrives. The staff can be seen pointing, glancing, and maneuvering around bloody footprints left in the hallway, because there was that much blood that when Alexi walked back to her treatment room, she's like leaving bloody footprints. And Housekeeper Lila, she begins to clean. Now Lila starts with cleaning up the hallway so people don't slip on the blood and it's
Starting point is 00:24:31 a biohazard. There's so much blood, like so much. And after that, Lila gets to work on the bathroom. Now at this point, it's about 2-10 in the morning, January 27, 2023. She said that there was so much blood sheed to go in and clean everything multiple times and she had to make sure she got everything well because again, blood is a biohazard. 15 minutes pass of Lila mopping and cleaning up the smears of blood in the bathroom and she's getting ready to take out the bathroom trash. So the bathroom trash, it didn't look like it
Starting point is 00:25:00 was filled. Like it just had a little bit of waste and a little bit of smears of blood and she's just just gonna get it out and put in a new liner. Even if there's like one napkin with blood in there, she's supposed to take it out. That's like the regulations. And you know that feeling, when you try to pick up something,
Starting point is 00:25:16 and you kind of already have a gauge of how much it's gonna weigh. And when it contradicts your beliefs or your thought, your body is kind of like, oh, whoa. It's like when you expect a suitcase to be super heavy, but turns out there's nothing in there, so it's light in your arm kind of does like a weird thing. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, well typically the bathroom trash is just filled with paper towels after people wash their hands. Yes. But Leela's arms suddenly went heavy. There's a lot more weight in there than she expected. But the feeling is disorienting. You're just like, oh, weird, but it's a feeling that goes away. And Leela had a lug going on in her mind. So she set the trash bag outside the door of the restroom. And as she's finishing cleaning, she's thinking, oh shoot, we keep the roll of
Starting point is 00:26:02 trash bags in the bathroom, like new trash bags. Maybe someone threw that into the trash bag and that's why it's so heavy. And not saying she was going to take it out and use it, I don't know if there's hospital regulations against that, but she just wanted to double take and see if that was the case, to see if her suspicions were correct. The next moments for the Artisia General Hospital staff were a plur. Leila yelled for H.T. and Lori who were both at the nurse's station at the corner. Lori responded first and Leila's horrified face was just enough to signal that everything was wrong, like everything was very, very seriously wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Lori leans down and she starts sifting through the trash. H.T. follows and leans down to look as well. And immediately H.T. runs and pulls Dr. Vasquez straight out of Alexi's room to update her. And he's basically like, you have to come now. So Dr. Vasquez comes down the hall and presumably he's kind of giving her updates as they're walking because she has her hands
Starting point is 00:27:00 in her hair, she's visibly very distressed. The doctor. Okay. And one peek into the trash bin and Dr. Vaskess armed shoots out pointing to the trauma room next to them across the hall. Put him in trauma too. Pohu. The baby?
Starting point is 00:27:16 So they bring the entire trash bag into the trauma room and the lights are turned on and the care team members are hustling in and out. The situation unfolding seemed to slow time all the way to like a stop. You know one of the nurses H.T. was a Marine he had been practicing for years. Laurie had been working for 16 years. Dr. Vasequez was the medical director at another hospital. She had been a physician for 20 years. Nurse Chris had been in the emergency department for five years.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Combined Alexi's healthcare team had over a lifetime of experience in medicine. Yet there was nothing that could prepare the team for what allegedly Alexi Trevizo's actions led to that night. Inside the trash bin were a bunch of used paper towels as well as trash bags, new trash bags. It's almost as if you were to take a new trash bag out of the roll, open it up and kind of crinkle it up to make like a trash ball, but it's just a new trash bag and stuff it in. Those were all taken out. And at the very bottom was another clear trash liner
Starting point is 00:28:26 and the tiny body of a baby boy inside. There was an open end of the trash bag. And you know when you don't finish your loaf of bread, you kind of twist it. And then maybe you don't tie it because you don't like untying it. You kind of tuck it underneath your bread loaf and you're like, well, I hope it just keeps it closed. No. That's how the baby
Starting point is 00:28:50 boy was found. Nurse HT cradled the baby boy out of the trash bag and ripped the bag open to get to the baby as quick as possible to see if there was any indication of life or any chance at resuscitation. Lori noticed the clear bag was suctioned against the baby boy's face like a vacuum seal over his eyes, nose, and mouth and his tiny head and he had a full head of hair. If you've ever seen a horror movie where someone is smothered by having a plastic bag around their head and it just suction to them like saran wrap it was kind of like that. The baby boy's body was cold to the touch and yeah his skin was blue and fleshy purple and there were smears of blood and mucus all over him and from his tiny body there was the umbilical
Starting point is 00:29:41 cord still completely attached to what would have been his belly button. The umbilical cord is what connects the mother and the baby and it has to be cut during birth. It's not an easy, it's not like a string, it's pretty thick, it's pretty tough. I'm sure it's a very interesting consistency, it's not easy to cut through. They're kind of elastic. I'm sure it's a very interesting consistency. It's not easy to cut through. They're kind of elastic. The end of his umbilical cord had this frayed edge, and it was horrific.
Starting point is 00:30:11 The edge wasn't clean. Obviously, there were no scissors in the bathroom. Instead, the edge was frayed. Pieces of the umbilical cord fiber had been ripped apart, as if someone had held the umbilical cord in both hands, twisted and ripped it apart. The end was so afraid and so horrifically afraid. The only thing that Lori, the CNA, could compare it to, was when you were to grab a piece
Starting point is 00:30:35 of string cheese and just yank it, rip it apart, and it's like the little fibers of the cheese are sticking out. In her official police interview, she says that's the first thing that she thought of. And she said, and I quote, this chick really tore this apart. It looked like an animal tore it apart. She continued, you know how you eat string cheese and you kind of twist it?
Starting point is 00:30:57 That's how the umbilical cord looked. No resuscitation efforts could be made by the care team due to the quality of baby dose body. Baby dose body was too cold, too unmoving, too asphyxated, too blue, too purple, too black for any resuscitation efforts. At this point, everyone immediately understood the situation and the ER had become a crime scene, and baby dose body would be taken in for autopsy. There was no chance for a recitation.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It was more important for them to keep his little body at rest and preserve any and all evidence. Now, Dr. Vask has declared time of death for the baby boy in the early hours of the morning. Baby dough died on January 27, 2023, at 2.28 pm. The very same day day he was born. He spent his estimated 15-20 minutes here on Earth, allegedly suffocating to death, allegedly at the hands of his mother, in a hospital bathroom, with doctors, nurses, right outside one
Starting point is 00:32:03 door. Later his autopsy reports will suggest that he died alone at the bottom of a trash can. Not once did Alexey mention the baby boy to any of the medical staff that were ready to help her assist. She never mentioned the baby boy before or after the bathroom incident. Not when she denied ever having sex. Not when Chris asked if she was pregnant, not once did she let the medical staff in on her secret that she had given birth to a full-term baby just minutes before and oh, the baby's in the bathroom. Rather, Alexi kept her mouth shut and she continued to receive her own care by Dr.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Vazquez for her back. But before I get ahead of myself, let's talk about what happened after Alexi came out of the restroom and what was happening in her room while the discovery of baby dough is being made. And what happened when the police arrived and when they officially tell Rose and Alexi the news about the discovery because Alexi says some pretty damning things. When Dr. Vasquez escorts Alexi back to the bathroom, back to the treatment room from the bathroom. So this is like right after birth.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Nourse Elizabeth was now on Alexi's healthcare team as well. She had no prior contact with Alexi before she went into the bathroom. She just got assigned this case. Now Nourse Elizabeth explains that when Dr. Vazquez and Alexi came back, Alexi was actively bleeding. So again, no one has found the baby. They just gently break the news to Alexi and Rosa. It seems that you've suffered a miscarriage.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And because Alexi is actively bleeding, Dr. Vascas asks if she could perform a vaginal exam to further evaluate the condition. Now, the nurse Elizabeth, she's busying herself with cleaning Alexi up and prepping her for the exam, and Rosa the mom, she's stepping in and having a back and forth with about the news. She's like, why don't you tell me, scolding her daughter, freaking out about, why don't
Starting point is 00:33:55 you tell me you were pregnant? And as Dr. Vasekess proceeds with the exam, Rosa is just visibly upset. And this is wild, but still Alexie continued to deny that she ever had sex. She's still insisted after this quote, miscarriage that she was a virgin. So all the while this is happening, Dr. Vaskass in Narsalisabeth noticed that Alexi was continuing to bleed extensively,
Starting point is 00:34:21 to the point where blood was now flowing down her inner legs, as well as there was a small puddle next to the exam table that she was on. Wow. So Dr. Vazquez's first observation when starting the vaginal exam was that Alexi's cervix was wide open and blood was flowing out. So this is what you mean when you give birth, they look at how dilated you are. Pretty dilated. Dr. Vasegues and Nersal Elizabeth, they worked to suction the blood the best that they could until there was a knock on the door. And charge nurse HT is like Dr. Vasegues, you got to come outside.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Now Nersal Elizabeth stayed in Alexi's room. She had no idea that there was a baby boy outside in the hallway. She gets Alexi into a hospital gown and is trying to clean up the blood as best as she can. And then she left to take care of her other patients. She would periodically check on Alexi to make sure she was okay, but her condition was not life-threatening. Or at least everyone thought so at this point. A little bit later, when Alexi, when Elizabeth, the nurse, was grabbing some blankets, Dr.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Vazquez and Alexi's other nurses, they pull her aside and notify her about the discovery of baby Do. And she was instructed not to say a word until the police came, and her whole job was to continue providing care as needed, pretending like nothing happened. Nobody wanted to let Alexi know that they knew what she had done in that bathroom. At least not till the police came. So after Nurse HT found the baby boy and Dr. Vazquez called the time of death, HT basically shut down the hospital.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They went into lockdown. No one's going to touch or go near the body of baby dough or that bathroom. They were going to wait until the police came. Dr. Vazquez and the the team made this game plan. Call the police, wait for them to get here, no one tells them. This is like information, lockdown, strict protocol. They would continue providing care for Alexi regardless of the criminal investigation they believed was about to be launched.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So the police get there and nurse HT fills them on all the events and this was recorded on the police body cam cameras And it's part of the original video that went viral when Nurse HT is speaking with the cops We hear very haunting dialogue. He says she went to the bathroom. She was in there for quite a while We kept knocking on the door finally we got her to open the door and there was blood everywhere She'd put the baby in the trash can and then she put another trash bag over on top of it. So when they looked in there it looked like there was no trash in there but underneath that it was just a clean bag. The officer responds, wow, okay. The baby is dead. We have him in trauma too but she killed the kid. We have him what? We have him in trauma too, but she killed the kid. We have him what?
Starting point is 00:37:05 We have him inside trauma too, but she killed the kid. How old was the baby? I don't know. He's full term. She wouldn't tell us she's pregnant. She's been lying the whole time. Now, Dr. Vaskas walks up to the officers and asks if they can accompany her while she notifies Alexi and Rosa of the discovery of the baby.
Starting point is 00:37:25 She wanted to make sure that all the legal bases were covered and that there were witnesses, including the body cam footage. Now this part of the case went absolutely viral due to the body cam footage, and I can see why. It's confusing, it's weird, it's wild, there's even more questions. Like, but the reactions of both mother and I guess mother, so both mom and daughter, Rosa and Alexi, they're strange, it's atypical. So inside the treatment room, we have Alexi on the hospital bed and her mom Rosa is standing up. And in walks, Dr. Vasquez, nurse HT and one of the police.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Dr. Vasquez breaks the news. I'm sorry, we've discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Rosa Alexi's mother gasps, oh my gosh. Alexi tries to explain, she says, I'm sorry, he came out of me and I didn't know what to do. Now this part has been dissected over and over again, like what would you imagine Rosa's reaction to be Alexi's mom's reaction to this?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Many netizens did not like the way that she responded. She said, Alexi, I told you about this. I just asked you baby to tell me the truth. Alexi, I told you about this. I just asked you baby to tell me the truth. That sounds like you can't lie to about, they didn't do their homework. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 So Rosa stands up, pays us for a short moment, and she's pressing her hands on her forehead and sternly asks, Alexi, what did you do to it? The doctor immediately says, okay, stop right there, stop. Number one priority, guys. Number one priority is that she just started a baby, and I don't know if she still has the placenta inside of her and she's bleeding significantly. So Alexi tries to explain to Dr. Vazquez. I'm scared. It was in crying or anything. So two things. Netizens did not like how Rosa
Starting point is 00:39:20 scolded her daughter for something like this. Like the reaction was strange. It almost felt like she already knew or kind of had her suspicions for something like this. Like the reaction was strange. It almost felt like she already knew or kind of had her suspicions that something like this was gonna happen. It's also on par with what you said, a mother scolding someone for not doing their homework. Yeah. Now secondly, Alexi will often refer to the child,
Starting point is 00:39:39 her child, as it. Now her doctor, Dr. Vazquez, still needs to prioritize her physical well-being. She recommends transferring her to a different hospital called Love Lace where they specialize in obstetrics. And because Alexi just gave birth in secret, they have no idea if the placenta was delivered. If there is placenta tissue left in the uterus, the condition can be life threatening for the mom.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Now, in addition, Alexi is also heavily bleeding. So they're very concerned about, you know, anything that's going to happen to her. Dr. Vasquez says, I'm very sorry about this, but in terms of delivering a baby, it looked like you tried to hide it. We do need to have the police involved. Alexi takes this in, looks at her mom and says, nothing, it wasn't crying, it came out and nothing. Dr. Vaseguest responds for Rosa. But the baby is going to be taken in for autopsy
Starting point is 00:40:33 and there will be an investigation and everything. I'm really sorry guys, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. We need to do this correctly and I want to be transparent with you and what our steps are going to be. Now, Dr. Vaseguest proceeds to arrange the transfer. She leaves the room leaving Alexi Rosa, charge nurse HT and the officer remaining. Now, nurse HT is about to leave,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but before he does, he asks them, do you guys have any questions for me? And Rosa says, how big was the baby? Full term. Rosa's eyes widen and our hands go up to her face and shock. And this conversation continues to really freak out netizens. Rosa gasps, looks at her daughter and says, what? Nine months?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Lexi, have you watched the news of the girls? What they do to their babies and they go to jail? What does that mean? Side note, that comment has been picked apart by netizens and it seems as if the mother is potentially alluding to another famous New Mexico case. About exactly a year ago, January of 2022, there was a young woman named Lexis Aviyah, who was found guilty for throwing her baby into a dumpster.
Starting point is 00:41:46 The baby survived. To which... What happened to her? Oh, jail. Okay. To which Alexi responds, it wasn't crying. So Rosa turns around running her fingers through her hair, moving to the corner of the room, sobbing,
Starting point is 00:42:01 and nurse H.T. leaves the room for now. So now it's just mom and daughter and the police officer. Throughout the entire body cam footage, although blurry, Alexi is not wiping her eyes, she's not visibly tearing up, she's just relatively unmoving. She stays in the bed and she looks scared, but she doesn't seem to be crying her emotional. Her mom asks her, where did you put the baby at? Tell me the truth. Her mom asks her again where did you put the baby at? Tell me the truth. Her mom asks her again, where?
Starting point is 00:42:28 And then the audio cuts out. So you can see the both of them say something, but nothing is heard. Rosa clarifies, it came out in the toilet. Alexi says, yes, he wasn't crying. And you put it in the bag. Yes. What bag? it in the bag. Yes, what bag in the trash bag? There's a point in the conversation where redditors have a lot of problems with how the mother speaks to the daughter. So Alexi is telling her mom all of this where she put the baby and she's also saying like I'm scared, I'm scared,
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm scared, I'm scared, right? And the mom says why didn't you tell us? And then immediately she kind of flips on her daughter and says do you want to get in trouble? Which is strange because you're already in a world of trouble. She says, that is so odd. Yeah, she continues, do you want to get in trouble for this because you can get in trouble for this now? One netizen pointed out, as soon as the mother said, do you want to get in trouble for this, I immediately knew who the real problem was in this family unit.
Starting point is 00:43:24 The girl is get in trouble for this? I immediately knew who the real problem was in this family unit The girl is already in trouble that statement makes little to no sense unless the mother is still desperately trying to take control and Trying to threaten her child. I will say the family dynamic is interesting and surely it plays a big part in today's case But we're gonna dive into it later Eventually rose it gets pulled out of the treatment room and it is told to stay in the waiting room till the detectives arrive. So as of right now, it's just been cops, not part of the investigation division. And because Alexi is legally an adult, they want to keep her isolated from any witnesses or potential co-conspirators, which is a theory that's going to come up later. So the cops tell Alexi that she's currently being detained and police custody and that a cop is going to be with her at all times at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:44:07 When Alexi is alone with a nurse, she is asked by the nurse. Right now it is very, very important that you are very honest and very truthful with us. Did your baby take at least one breath when it first happened? Or was your baby not breathing? Alexi said, I've been having this bad abdominal pain and so we came to the ER. When they brought me back in here to this room, I felt like I needed to poop and I asked if I could go to the bathroom. So when they said, yeah, that I could go to the bathroom, I sat on the toilet and
Starting point is 00:44:36 it all just fell out. But when I had it in my arms, it wasn't breathing, he wasn't moving, it wasn't breathing. So I just placed it in there. Okay, and was it a steady boyfriend, the father? Yes. Do you want me to include him as the father? For what? The birth and the death certificate? Oh, no, I don't want to put him down. So while Alexi is in the treatment room receiving postpartum care, her mom Rosa calls her husband and Alexi's boyfriend's family and breaks the news. They're all going to join Rosa in the waiting room. So to give a clear picture, Rosa calls her husband, aka Alexi's stepdad, so not her biological father.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Are these recorded? Yeah. On body cam. And then Alexi's boyfriend and his mom will be in the waiting room as well. Meanwhile, Alexi is still waiting to be transferred. And side note, this is when we meet the ultrasound tech Lorraine. And Alexi's questions and behaviors with Lorraine become a bit suspicious. Now, ultrasound tech Lorraine and CNA Lori are two different people. Lorraine, the ultrasound tech was on call for ultrasounds and
Starting point is 00:45:49 she arrived at the emergency room in the midst of this chaos. She wasn't there at the hospital. So she runs in and she's had like 20 years of ultrasound tech practice underneath her belt and she just noticed a lot of police presence the minute she got there. But so she's here to help Alexi. Yeah, see what's going on, you know, is the pleasantest still in there. Got it. So before entering Alexi's room for the ultrasound, she was filled in briefly on what's going on.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And Lorraine said that the whole procedure was incredibly uncomfortable. There was an officer already in Alexi's room and Lorraine asked him to step out what she did. Lorraine kept her head down as she prepped a lexie and she had no intention of conversing with Alexi and she hoped that maybe she would get the message. But she starts talking. Alexi told Lorraine,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I don't know what's going on. I didn't know I was pregnant, I'm a cheerleader. I started gaining weight. My clothes were tight. I was taking birth control pills and none of this makes sense. Lorraine stayed quiet and could only gently respond. I don't know what to tell you. Lorraine finished up the ultrasound and noted that there was a significant amount of bleeding and tissue but that was pretty normal for regular typical deliveries and Lorraine updated Dr. Vaskas after leaving the patient's room.
Starting point is 00:47:07 She would also go to the cops and note that Alexi's tone was very panicked, but to her it didn't seem like a person that truly had no idea what was going on. Lorraine said that she had been in the field for 20 years and she had seen some weird people. She had talked to some off people, but she testified that Alexi's case did not seem like that. You know, it just, it almost sounded like the way she's saying it was. She's trying to get someone to believe her. She's trying to get someone on her side. Mm-hmm. Now, remember Narsal Elizabeth?
Starting point is 00:47:40 She's still taking care of Alexi. She's providing postpartum care after all of this. And she is one of the staff that's having direct care of Alexi. She's providing postpartum care after all of this. And she is one of the staff that's having direct contact with Alexi after the police get involved. She said that Alexi kept talking to her as well, and Elizabeth reported that Alexi did not say anything about what happened in the bathroom, but she was just worried that she was going to get in trouble and she even asked, what's going to happen? I don't know, Alexi.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Would there be any bad outcomes if I I stopped taking one medication and started another? It depends on the medications. What would happen if I stopped taking birth control and started taking weight loss pills? Chills ran up Elizabeth's back. What's this about me? She's okay. So people interpreted it two different ways, right? Oh, well, first of all, Elizabeth just said,
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm not a pharmaceutical major, so I don't know what to tell you. And she left the room. A lot of netizens speculate that 19-year-old Alexi was probably not asking this question out of genuine curiosity or concern. It's not like, oh my God, I'm so dumb and young and I made a grave air enjudgment.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It kind of feels like, again, the same thing with Lorraine. She's trying to trap someone into believing her as if she truly is this confused girl that made an honest mistake. Now, the second speculation is that many people pointed out, a Lexi asking if it's weird for her to take weight loss pills or if something happened, maybe it's more of like a, hey, I started taking weight loss pills because I was pregnant maybe it's more of like a, hey, I started taking weight loss pills because I was pregnant and I didn't want anyone to know. Like, it's such a random thing to bring up.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Some people speculate that maybe she saw online or something that maybe weight loss pills could result in a non-viable pregnancy or like an at-home termination. So it just seems again, I think the whole purpose of her saying this to a nurse is not really for help or for answers, but to get someone to kind of believe her, to be on her side. Now at this point, even with all of this going on, Alexi has still not been arrested. An autopsy would be performed in order for that arrest warrant to be served. The consequences of disposing of a body after stillbirth are drastically different from a newborn being alive and healthy and then due to a sequence of someone's actions that
Starting point is 00:49:55 baby ended up dead. So while Alexi is waiting to be transferred, baby Do is sent for autopsy. Alexi's mom Rosa is in the waiting room with her husband, Alexi's stepdad, Alexi's boyfriend, and Alexi's boyfriend's mom. And all of this is in the body cam footage. So when the officer arrives, Rosa stands up while the other three people remain in their seats. She immediately asks about Alexi and where she's going and the officer informs her for the next steps and tells Rosa that the baby will be going into autopsy. Rosa just completely disregards the baby. Rosa is like whatever I don't care and immediately asks about a laxie. Is she gonna like get released like when, how, like are y'all gonna take her into
Starting point is 00:50:36 custody or anything like that? Note that even though the cop he had stated you know the baby boy is gonna be sent, he's gonna be sent to be autopsy, he mentioned the, you know, the baby boy is going to be sent. He's going to be sent to be autopsy. He mentioned the baby's pronouns, the gender, and Rosa is not, Rosa doesn't care. Rosa's only thinking about Lexi, not her grandchild. She didn't even register once that this was a grand, like, a baby boy that she just had. As the footage continues, Alexi stepped out. The husband to Rosa is the only one that seems to be very upset with the situation. He's crying, he remains seated and in distress, he's asking questions
Starting point is 00:51:13 about the baby. Now across from the stepdad, Alexi's boyfriend and his mom who remained seated, and they really only talk when they're spoken to by the cop. So before we get into the footage, let's go over quickly the relationship between Alexi and the guy sitting in the waiting room with his mom. This is the boyfriend. This is the supposed father of Baby Doe. His name is Devon Fiero. Alexi and Devon had been dating for close to two years at this point. Devon was born to his mother Melanie who was also in the waiting room with him, and there's not too much information about the FIRO family, as Alexi is the accused. There's just not too much about him. Netizens remain divided on whether or not they believe he knew about the pregnancy or
Starting point is 00:51:55 not. We don't officially know. Devon himself has not made a public statement, and I'm sure we are not going to hear anything official or any valid reports until the trial in this fall. He also attended the same high school as Alexi. They were both seniors ready to graduate and Devon was a bit younger so he's 18 and Alexi is 19 years old. Now because of the viral nature of this case, netizens have tried digging for some gold. Most of this regulations flying around are completely unverifiable, you know? But all we have right now is that he kept a low profile.
Starting point is 00:52:28 They seem to be really in love, like a high school love. There have been falsified Instagram accounts that have been popping up pretending to be him, but so far there's not much. Now back to the investigation. Some netizens applaud the cops carefully chosen words following all of this. The officer says to Rosa,
Starting point is 00:52:50 so you would be the grandmother. Rosa corrects him shaking her head and says, no, I'm mom, I'm her mom. The officer tells her, so you would be the dead son's grandmother. Rosa responds, yes. And then immediately her hand shoots up and she's pointing a finger at the boyfriend's mom and goes, so is she? That's her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:53:15 The clip is super eerie. The way that Rosa immediately and literally and figuratively and physically points her finger at the boyfriend's mom to be like, oh, you're accusing me of being a grandma? Well, wait a minute, she is too. The cop gets the boyfriend's info and inquires about Alexi's pain when it all started. Rosa goes on to say that Alexi's father had beaten her when she was pregnant, which resulted in Alexi having back-and-hip issues,
Starting point is 00:53:41 and she regularly saw a chiropractor in an... And she's almost kind of using this as a way to explain the back pain and how it all had a history. Some conversation passes and the cop asks the boyfriend, I'm not trying to be rude but you would be the baby's father correct. He nods and this is where something so strange happens. So up until this point we just thought that Rosa is this mom who is such a tiger mom she She's so strict. She doesn't want her kids having sex, right? This guy just admitted that he had sex with Alexi in front of her. So I would imagine, of course, I mean, it already clicked in her head. She already knows logically, but I
Starting point is 00:54:20 would imagine emotionally it's more, she's upset. She maybe has a grimace on her face. She's looking away. She's pissed. She looks like she wants to punch him, right? You would imagine that But instead Rosa and the boyfriend's mother look at each other crack a smile and kind of laugh What? And they say we get it What yeah Like we get it like oh get it, we get it. What? Yeah. Like, we get it.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like, uh, get it room. We get it. The cop is at a loss for words. Once the mother's go back to being serious, he proceeds to explain why it's important that he asks questions like that. So throughout the body, Kim footage, Alexi stepped out
Starting point is 00:55:04 is the only one that asks about the baby. Rosa only ever asks about Alexi and the boyfriend and his mom remain silent with just short, two word answers. Not once. Did they ask about the baby, their grandchild. Not once. Did the father ask if he had a son or a daughter. Not once. Did the boyfriend's mother, the grandmother to this baby, ask about her grandchild. I mean, everyone in this room who was biologically related to baby Doe did not even acknowledge him. Alexi stepped out the only person in that room whose genetics were not a part of baby Doe was the only one showing emotion and asked a question about the boy. And of course, genetics do not decide family, of course not. But it's ironic how everyone else, whose literal DNA made up this dead baby boy, did not ask a single question. This is
Starting point is 00:55:50 backed up by a charge nurse, HT's police interview as well. He says, not one person asked me about the baby. If it was alive, if it was dead, a boy or a girl, not one. I've never seen, I mean, I've delivered multiple babies and seen multiple miscarriages and I've I've never seen anything I mean, I've delivered multiple babies and seen multiple misguerages and I've, I've never seen anything like that. There was no emotion except for herself. She wasn't crying tears. He continues, I'm just gonna tell you this, I've never seen a reaction like that girl. There was zero emotion. I have seen women who are only pregnant for six weeks and they are a mess. To do what she did with no emotion, I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The only thing that upsets me the most is she gave me no chance to save that baby. And that's not what I do. My job is to save lives and I had no chance. We were at a facility where you can drop off the baby and there are no questions asked. We were at a facility where you can drop off the baby and there are no questions asked. H.T. finishes and gets visibly emotional
Starting point is 00:56:49 as his voice shakes and gets caught in his throat. More emotion than Alexi showed over all of the body camera footage that has been released. Post-partum care nurse, Elizabeth, also testified to the fact that Alexi was only asking questions about herself and not once did chiasque about her son. Alexi is airlifted from this hospital to Lovelace, and the autopsy results would take longer than expected for baby Doe, but the medical examiner determined that the baby boy had
Starting point is 00:57:16 air in his lungs when he died. The Emmy ruled baby Doe's death a homicide and stated that he had passed from his fixation, and the cause of death death was quote, entrapment. The report confirms that he died after birth. According to the official affidavit, entrapment is defined as when an individual is an airtight or relatively airtight container, or in this case a tide plastic trash bag and consumes all of the available oxygen until there is no longer enough oxygen to sustain life. To further explain this, the autopsy and the post-mortem showed the infant male had no anatomic abnormalities and or no physical injuries.
Starting point is 00:58:02 His lungs were aerated and he had an aeronistemic. So she had delivered allegedly a healthy baby boy. The baby was 38 weeks old, which is 9.5 months. This is very important. The age of viability in which a preemie can live outside the womb and successfully develop is between 22 to 26 weeks with medical care, meaning Baby Doe would have survived even if he was born four months earlier.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He was fully developed, yet he ended up in the bottom of a trash can and was suffocated to death within minutes of his first breaths. The air in his lungs and stomach were significant findings as they proved that Baby Doe was capable of life outside the uterus and had taken his first breaths after birth His last breath shortly after So this was still not enough to arrest a Lexi It would take months before she's arrested now side note She was physically fine or at least fine enough to be discharged from the hospital
Starting point is 00:59:02 And what's interesting is that she went immediately right back to school. She continued to date her boyfriend, Devon Fiero, and the couple actually attended their senior prom together April of 2023. No. Like nothing happened. This is a picture of them at prom, and I want to say that netizens have been speculating the necklace that she's wearing. A lot of people who have grieved the loss of loved ones say that that necklace reminds them very much of a necklace where you store ashes or pieces of ashes from a loved one. People think it could potentially contain the ashes of baby dough. Now this obviously
Starting point is 00:59:36 isn't and cannot be confirmed, but keep this in mind because something more wild comes up later. So anyway, Alexi is allowed back into the school while the investigation continues, and the police do some things that have been debated by netizens. A police officer tries to approach Alexi while she's walking out of her high school alone, which I think the initial thing was people were upset. You know, it sounds scummy. It sounds like a police is trying to entrap her, right? But it's perfectly legal. She's 19 years old. She's an adult and she has been an adult for over a year. Detectives do not need a guardian present to question her. They most likely approached her while she was coming out of high school to try and talk to her without her mother present
Starting point is 01:00:16 Which again is absolutely legal because she's an adult. There are speculations that if Rosa hadn't been in that treatment room Maybe a Lexi would have told medical staff what was going on. But Alexi does not want to talk to the investigators. Thankfully, they wouldn't need her testimony to arrest her. After four long months of investigation, May 10, 2023, Alexi Trevizo was arrested. Now, the body cam footage was released released and that is when it went viral.
Starting point is 01:00:50 After the arrest, the arrest itself was relatively unremarkable, like nothing too crazy or unexpected happens, but once again, Alexi's mom Rosa is incredibly protective in the least, combative at best to the arresting officers. Her reaction does remain interesting. Rosa, the mom tells the police, I'll bring her out, just tell me what's going on. I see if this is like coming out of nowhere. You know, a detective explains the warrant and Alexis mother asks, for what? Which is a very interesting question, okay? And a bag and forth ensues before the officers
Starting point is 01:01:26 disclose the reason. Again, I cannot stress enough, and apparently the cops cannot stress enough either, but Alexia is over 18, meaning Rosa has no legal right to know what the arrest warrant states. That's like if a random adult were to get arrested, and I'm like, hey, officer, you should tell me what
Starting point is 01:01:40 the arrest is for. It's like you don't have the, I don't have to tell you. Now the cops remind this, remind Rose of this, but she still demands to know what the warrant is for. She does have a bit of an argument stating that she deserves to know what the warrant is for because this is her home.
Starting point is 01:01:56 The police inform her that they have a arrest warrant for a Lexi and not a warrant to search for her house, like through her house. I don't doubt that this is an incredibly terrifying situation and maybe Rosa as a mother wants to protect her child regardless of age, but many take this as Rosa having a hard time accepting, she is not the one in control. Alexi is an adult, she's a full legal person.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And so there's this whole back and forth, Rosa standing and blocking the doorway with her body and a probably fed up deputy states homicide, an open count of homicide and tampering with evidence. That's what she's getting arrested for. An Alexies mom says in disbelief tampering with evidence at the hospital. Again, I don't really know what the shock or attitude is about because her always give the most bizarre reaction to the
Starting point is 01:02:48 bizarre yeah. It's like I yeah. I don't. So confused what what yeah what. It's really yeah I mean her it's off-putting for sure even when you watch it's just kind of like that makes me feel weird. I mean, I don't want to make speculations because I think that we all deal with shocking news differently. But it's not normal, I would say. It's interesting. Now, regardless, Rosa is on the phone with someone
Starting point is 01:03:17 and demands to see the warrant physically. Now again, they're like, okay, well, we can arrest Alexi and get her permission to visibly show you the warrant can arrest Alexi and get her permission to visibly show you the warrant, so we gotta go get her. Finally, Rosa lets them in, and Alexi is arrested. She does not cry. She does appear nervous, of course, but she's still kind of relatively emotionless for
Starting point is 01:03:39 just the sheer gravity of her crimes or what she's accused of. Now something does catch the eye of netizens and internet's loose. In the end of the video, the officer with the body camera is kind of escorning a lexie out of the house to make sure that she's not grabbing any weapons and just grabbing sanitary products. So he's in the house. Netizens go frame by frame in the short portion of the video that shows inside of their family home and boom, there it is.
Starting point is 01:04:07 People are like, there is no way. Is that really no freaking way? No, no, absolutely not. There's no way she would do that in a million years. You can see in the living room, there is a frame in the background of the body camp footage. And if you're listening to the audio version, I'm going to describe it. There is a thick black frame sitting on top of the living room main shelf of the entertainment console. And it kind of looks like a scrapbook page with a glass layer on top.
Starting point is 01:04:35 It's vertical from top to bottom is the name ALEX. Alex in big white letters. Next to the name are a small pair of angel wings and what looks to be a blanket. Taxed onto the blanket is a small photograph that looks like it'd be the size of like a sonogram. However, only the edges are black and the inside and the majority of the photograph is tan.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Why is that important? Guess what else was tan? The hospital trash can was tan. Body cameras are notoriously blurry and pixelated, so the image is like a smudge. However, some netizens believe that it is a photo of baby dough in the trash can. And it is now allegedly being used
Starting point is 01:05:15 as some sort of familial memorial picture. What? Other netizens argue that this picture is actually a post autopsy picture or a post afterlife picture. I don't think we'll know for sure. I don't think this will ever be covered during the trial, probably not. But evidently, this photo has been leaked, but it has been wiped from the internet. But if this is what netizens believe it to be, this frame photo memory box, I mean, that's terrifying. Not only is she creating
Starting point is 01:05:48 practically a false memory box with what appears to be a fake baby blanket that she literally never had used for. She never used one and she put angel wings and she named her dead son, her dead baby boy, that she allegedly threw in the damn trash after herself. So she is arrested and after about a week she is released on bail. March 16th, 2023. I'm so fed up with this case. I'm so fed up with this case. Can you tell?
Starting point is 01:06:18 March 16th, 2023. Alexi is released and the judge, judge finger ruled that she would be able to finish school without being on house arrest. She's given a curfew though, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. which really is nothing. She's also required to attend counseling and is permitted to travel to the state of Texas to see family.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Wow. It's like a luxurious release. Oh, considering that she's an adult when she did this. She's not even a minor when she allegedly did this. Sorry, allegedly. But something to remember, in New Mexico, a first-degree murder charge could result in a life sentence. Child abuse could result up to 18 years.
Starting point is 01:06:56 So as of now, her pre-child hearing is September 11, 2023, and the current court date is scheduled for October 2nd, 2023. And the outrage to her bond has been swift. I mean, before we dive into what I'm about to talk about, I think I've made it relatively clear where I stand in terms of women having autonomy over their own bodies, but the following discourse is even more specific, even more particular, even more sensitive. So that being said again, these are not personal opinions or part of a political agenda. These are just the facts of the case.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So regardless of how you feel on the topic or where you fall in the spectrum, it is a fact that the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade, a landmark case regarding abortion. That's not what we're talking about, okay? We already know how most of us feel on this. This overturning led to other states, determining their own specifications regarding abortion. So we spend half of our time in Georgia as of right now, which is where all my family
Starting point is 01:07:53 is, and Georgia actually has one of the most restrictive laws in the nation regarding abortion. Now, how is that connected to today's case? Because in New Mexico, abortion has remained legal in the state and it remains legal up until the moment of birth. Well, before birth. Yeah, till the moment before birth. Currently, there are no laws limiting the availability of abortion services regardless of the gestation or how far along the mom is. Moreover, New Mexico does not require parental consent or notification for minor seeking abortion services. If there is any state to be in a position like a
Starting point is 01:08:30 Lexi because she's not even a minor, right, it would have been New Mexico. So let me explain. Some netizens remain baffled as to why Lexi did not get an abortion considering New Mexico's abortion laws are some of the least restrictive and they make it far more accessible than the majority of the United States states. Not only was she an adult, she would not have to tell her mother, but even if she were a minor, she would still not have to get her mom involved because she lives in New Mexico. And you don't have to agree or support late term abortion to understand this argument. You could think, well, I'll never get one, and XYZ, but we're talking about the decisions that Alexi made. Clearly, Alexi does not care about infant life.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I don't think she cares about a fetus life, right? I mean, she threw her baby in the trash can. So some people argued, maybe she's against abortion, but I just think that's goofy. That is literally goofy. Like you're white. Okay, but let's, I guess, entertain this beyond goofy idea. Let's say she doesn't believe in termination of her pregnancy. So caring to term was the only option. Did she have to put him in the trash can where he would suffocate and die allegedly? Many netizens, many, many netizens believe
Starting point is 01:09:44 that she had other opportunities why because new mexico offers the safe haven for infants act which means individuals can bring their baby up to 90 days old to be dropped off at any safe haven location in the state no questions asked no criminal investigation it is not child neglect it is not child abandonment in new mexico you may go to a Hospital law enforcement agency or fire station and you will not be chased down You will not be asked is this your baby. You will not be say or you're forgetting your baby Let me repeat the first one for you really quick a
Starting point is 01:10:18 Hospital Alexi gave birth to her baby boy in a hospital yet. She's still chose to throw him in the trash Alexi gave birth to her baby boy in a hospital yet she still chose to throw him in the trash. Alexi gave birth to her baby boy in a hospital as a legal adult, yet she still chose to throw him in the trash. Alexi gave birth to a baby boy in a hospital as a legal adult with numerous chances to speak up and request that her mother, if Rosa was the reason that she was too scared to tell anyone she was pregnant, she could have requested her mom leave her treatment room because she was 19.
Starting point is 01:10:52 But let's argue that her mom is so controlling and so terrifying that she couldn't ask for her mom to be removed from the treatment room. She could have easily on her way to the bathroom alerted a nurse and ran into a separate treatment room instead. Close the door, demanded that they honor HIPAA and not tell her mom what was happening. Even if Alexi was under Rosa's healthcare insurance, which I don't know, thinking about health insurance coverage in this type of situation would be kind of insane, but even if that was her concern, just speculating here if that was her concern, because Alexi is a legal adult, she has her own rights to medical privacy that would be upheld. So even though she's under her mom's health insurance, she wouldn't, her mom wouldn't
Starting point is 01:11:32 need to know. Now some netizens say, that's only blame Alexi to a degree because it seems like her mom Rosa was the one at fault. She was the one that played a huge part in why Alexi probably continued to lie. She is most likely controlling aggressive, not giving Alexi the chance to tell the truth. Now, I think we'll never fully know what was going on in Rosa's head and how much she knew and how much she didn't know about her daughter, but we can make an educated guess. And for legal, guess is not a fact.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Maybe because Alexi was not physically appearing pregnant and ready to pop a testimony from the hospital staff as well. They did not should not look full-term. Maybe Rosa did not know that her daughter was full-term and she may have been suspicious of a pregnancy but her later actions at least to me indicate that Rosa probably thought the pregnancy was either super early on or non-viable like an ectopic pregnancy. I don't think that she knew the extent or seriousness of the pregnancy, though. I think the only one who truly knew the extent was probably Alexi. Maybe her boyfriend. I mean, again, like I said, it's clear that parenting is a huge factor in this case for both
Starting point is 01:12:42 Alexi and Rosa, it seems, but since Alexi may have not had the best relationship with her mom, she might have felt like she couldn't trust her. Some people say that Alexi seems very sheltered just by looking at the body cam footage. It seems like she doesn't understand that she could go to jail for that. However, Alexi is again, 19.
Starting point is 01:13:02 She could have pulled a staff aside. Even if her mom is gonna find out or not gonna find out, I mean, I remember being 19. I did some really dumb stuff at 19, but I did not do that. Chris, Lori, Dr. Vazquez, all people that were capable of saving a baby's life, they're all knocked on the door, and the Lexi could have said, I'm 19, don't tell my mom, this is confidential, please can one of you come in. Now, there are people who are calling a Lexi
Starting point is 01:13:35 the embodiment of the devil, the most evil mother to exist. And I don't know if I can have a strong personal opinion on a Lexi. I do think that we all have the ability to think critically. Look, look, most of us have been 19 and maybe some of us had pregnancy scares at that age. And I will say, everyone is freaking terrified of their parents' reaction. Even in my 20s, I think I'd be terrified of being like, mom, oh my god, this is so scary, right? You're scared of what the future is going to be, what's going to happen, especially more so when you're a teenager.
Starting point is 01:14:02 But I just, I don't think that this is something that would have ever crossed my or any of you guys's minds when you're 19. Now, I will say there is a big piece of the puzzle that I am missing, which is I've never been a mother, I've never given birth. I am unfamiliar with the emotions that can be brought up in these situations and what kind of chemical and balances I would have. So I'm going to share with you what I've seen some moms say on the internet about this. One mom net is in commented. I was 19 when I found out I was pregnant.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I didn't find out until I was already six months pregnant. I was on birth control. I showed no signs of pregnancy, and I was actually losing weight during the time. Needless to say, it was not planned. I was nervous to tell my mom, but I did. I had two choices. I keep my baby or I give it up for adoption. I made the choice to keep my baby.
Starting point is 01:14:49 She'll be 16 this year. She's a straight-A student, and she is the best daughter I could ask for. There are no excuses for what this girl did. None. She had options. But another mom and some other netizens feel differently.
Starting point is 01:15:04 They state that postpartum could have been a huge factor in this case. One common to her states, I feel so bad for this girl. So much happens to your body when you're pregnant. I mean, this kind of visceral reaction is not abnormal postpartum. The huge influx of hormones affected every woman differently and she was clearly in a state of panic, likely induced by the physical trauma that she just went through. The people gutting her as a murderer are so eager to pick up a pitchfork and burn women alive without understanding a god damn thing about actually being a woman. I would like to know your
Starting point is 01:15:34 thoughts if you guys have given birth. I want to say it's a bit different. This situation and post partum, while I do think that postpartum is incredibly serious and it's not talked about enough. I don't know, maybe I'm not in the place to say because I've never had postpartum myself, but I've seen the people closest to me go through postpartum and maybe we were all just lucky and it wasn't that bad, but yeah, I don't know if this would be the best connection to postpartum advocacy. So, another mom commented,
Starting point is 01:16:10 postpartum depression, anxiety, and even psychosis are actually quite common side effects of pregnancy and labor, yet society always views women with problems as monsters. I can't even imagine the terror this girl must have felt. Again, I feel like it's hard for me to say because I've never given birth. I've never had these experiences or these hormonal imbalances,
Starting point is 01:16:30 but so many people in my life have given birth, and many of them have struggled with postpartum depression. And this just seems really intense. I don't know. What are your thoughts? Now, just a couple of final loose strings before we wait for further updates. This case is blown up and it's reached pretty much like all the corners of the internet and there have been some viral pictures associated with this
Starting point is 01:16:57 case that have been released by unverified accounts. And this is not the first time that we've seen this in true crime cases. It happens a lot. I don't know if these are real or if these have been edited, but pictures have been going around that show Alexi in her cheer team costume and she looks visibly very pregnant. So people are using this as like, oh, everyone knew she was pregnant. Come on now. So I don't know. I, but looking at the picture, she definitely looks pregnant. We just don't know if these were photoshopped or not.
Starting point is 01:17:26 So just like that, Alexi has been released, she has lowered up, and her defense attorney, Gary Mitchell states that there is a lot more to the case than we all think. He states that this is more than a regular quote, abandoned and newborn in child abuse case. Defense attorney, Gary Mitchell, alludes that the hospital actually committed malpractice. He states that not a single one of them told her that she was pregnant. She had no idea she was pregnant. They also did not tell her that they needed to examine her. The attorney confirms that Alexi went to the hospital with back pain and he states that
Starting point is 01:17:58 she had severe abdominal pain and indicated that she was on a scale of 1-10-10. Another part of his defense focuses on the medication given to Alexi. According to the attorney, Alexi was on a ton of medication, Zofran, sodium chloride. Those are the ones that are not that serious, but she was on morphine. The attorney alleged that these are some pretty heavy
Starting point is 01:18:19 medications to put on a pregnant person. He claims that the hospital staff knew that she was pregnant but didn't want to say anything until she went into the bathroom. He claims that they should have monitored her the entire time. Even states to the press, if a pregnant woman needs to go to the restroom, they should have thought that she might be going into labor. He also indicates that he does not believe the autopsy results are true and he wants to
Starting point is 01:18:40 have another expert take a look at it. He also alleges that the hospital illegally released some of Alexi's medical history. Yeah. So Gary is convinced that Alexi is totally innocent, but he says that whatever the staff did is malpractice. He states, I will not hold back when it comes to representing this young girl. She's a good person, someone you can be proud of.
Starting point is 01:18:59 And because of our attitude about women's reproductive care and the way we treat women in this country, it is now being exposed to a first-degree murder charge. He went on to explain that Alexi has a 3.8 GPA and already committed to the New Mexico State University. He states that Alexi is an honor student that's on the choir team as well as the cheer team and has never had a single infraction in school, nor has she had any traffic violations. And another little loose string before we wrap this up regarding Rosa.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Take this with a pinch of salt because, you know, but allegedly Rosa the mom was arrested in 2004 for a DWI in Texas. Allegedly, she is also a registered felon for a faulty check-in misdemeanor in Gaines, Texas from July 2004. She has a state felony because there were minors in the vehicle during her DWI. What's DWI? Driving with influence I believe. Oh, the DUI. Yeah. She has pled guilty and was sentenced to five years probation. And according to internet sleuths, again, I don't know how true this information is, but
Starting point is 01:20:05 Alexi's biological father has a custody agreement, lives in Texas, and he owed or owes over $10,000 in child support. So I believe this is the latest update in the case as of now. Judge Minger released Alexi on bail, and there is an interesting condition in her bond. She is to not get pregnant again. That's, yeah. So, as for the impact of this case, I think we're just gonna have to wait
Starting point is 01:20:32 and see what's gonna happen here. I think that this case is gonna get politicized. I think it might be one of those cases where all the different parties use it as a way to further their political agenda. But I think just looking at the crime itself or the loss of life itself, I think we should focus on the ripple effect that it had on everyone, especially in the community of New Mexico. Many crimes and investigators along with hospital staff, I mean, many of them had mental breakdowns.
Starting point is 01:21:05 They're requiring counseling, they're coping with this traumatic event. Not only did a baby boy lose his life, a father lost his son, grandmother's lost their grandbaby, regardless of if they care or not, a mother lost her child, but there were people, there were a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Medical staff, first responders who had to witness these losses in the most traumatic way. So thank you to medical staff and first responders who are listening right now, those are superheroes. And I think that we like to think of them as just so strong and they just do their job so well, right? And they put in so much effort to making it look like they have no emotions, but they're just suppressing it for the sake of their patients. Lila the housekeeper was the one that found the baby and her police interview was so heartbreaking towards the end the detectives ask her if she's doing anything to help with her emotions and she said no and she shared her previous struggles with the detectives. In 2018, Lila's boyfriend died at his own hands.
Starting point is 01:22:09 He shot himself in front of her. Oh my God. And so you can imagine the blood at the crime scene. She did see a psychiatrist afterwards and the psychiatrist told her, don't take this cleaning job at the hospital. If you see blood, it might give you PTSD. But Lila thought, well, I do need to go to work. I need to make a life, I need to make a living. I need a routine. So she accepted the job. And just a few years later, she would have to witness yet another bloody crime scene.
Starting point is 01:22:43 And in the CCTV footage, it looks like Lila has the body language of someone that's dealing with a lot of shock and potentially guilt. I think a lot of these nurses, a lot of these staff, they have the questions of what if I check the bathroom better? What if I check the trash bin first? Maybe if I had opened the trash bin first? Maybe if I had opened the trash bin earlier, maybe if I had just known, maybe if I moved faster, maybe we try to get into the bathroom a bit quicker. Many of the medical staff were very distraught because they never had the chance to save this little baby. And that's what they're
Starting point is 01:23:18 trained for. That's what they spent all this time, energy, and money going to school to save people. And I think it's worse because it literally happened in the bathroom. It was not a crazy medical emergency that they just didn't understand that no one could help. So, now, as of right now, Alexi has pledged not guilty. There's a big chance it'll end up with a grand jury trial and that will be in October. There are similar cases we've talked about where like 18-19 year olds will give birth and dispose of their babies in pretty horrific ways. Do you think it's gonna have similar results, similar rulings?
Starting point is 01:24:00 But let me know and we will do our best to keep you guys updated and we will see you in the next episode. Stay safe and I'll see you someday. Bye!

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