Rotten Mango - #299: Woman Whines “Why Me??” After Killing Bride On Her Wedding Day

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

Jamie (25) was getting emotional talking about her cat. If anything, she was getting riled up. Her parents decided to give her cat to her grandma, and that was just unacceptable. Her grandma could get... her own cat. This one was hers! She ranted on the phone about it - as well as other things that had been weighing on her mind. Jamie complained about the food. Colored pencils. Lack of yoga mats. But most passionately - she complained about how she was going to be stuck in jail for a very long time. She screamed - “Why me? Omg, I just can’t believe this happened… it could have happened to anyone. Why me?” Jamie made a series of actions that killed a bride on her wedding day, but she asks - “why me?” Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Bramble. Better being better, boo. 25-year-old Jamie was getting emotional. She was getting emotional talking about her cat. If anything, she was getting angry. She was getting riled up. Her parents decided to give her cat to grandma for the time being. And Jamie was not having it.
Starting point is 00:00:17 She ran to it on the phone to her friends and family in a recorded phone call. No, that's my cat. That's my cat. Grandma can get a new cat. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. That's not my cat. That's my cat. Grandma can get a new cat. Now here's the thing, here's the thing. That's not their cat, that's my cat. I'm gonna be gone for a few months and then I'll be home, that's my cat.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Look, grandma's cat Theo died from eating a toxic plant or something and what do they do? What do they decide to do? Give my cat to grandma. They're not keeping her. So like, that's gonna be a problem. Grandma is just gonna have to get a new cat because that's my cat to grandma. They're not keeping her. So like, that's going to be a problem. Grandma is just going to have to get a new cat because that's my cat. Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. I have to think about it as in the cat.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Don't, listen, don't worry about Evan and the cat and stuff right there. You worry about yourself. Do you understand? Someone on the other line tells her, hang on girl, you need a reality check. Girl, that's not your cat right now. Grandma is taking care of your cat. But Jamie could not stop worrying. It was a really rough time for her. She couldn't stop worrying about whether or not Grandma
Starting point is 00:01:16 was going to try and keep her cat. If Grandma was going to try and rename her cat, she couldn't stop worrying about why she requested colored pencils, and they hadn't given it to her yet. And she also couldn't stop worrying about why she requested colored pencils and they hadn't given it to her yet. And she also couldn't stop worrying about why this was all happening to her. She said on a phone call with her dad, why me? Oh my god, I just can't believe this. I can't believe this happened to me. Why me? I'm going to be here for years and years and years and I just can't. I can't, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I just can't believe this happened to me. Why me, bad, why me? Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I'm going to be here for years and years and years and years. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 25-year-old Jamie Comorowski made a series of decisions that led to someone's death, a bride coming home in her wedding gown right after the best night of her life. She would be found dead on the side of the street because of what Jamie did that night, but she wants to know who's getting her cat.
Starting point is 00:02:27 She wants to know why her of all people. Dad and mom can be heard comforting their full-grown daughters saying things like, I know, sweetie, I know, I know, sweetie. Don't worry about your future. Your future is going to be just fine. You know what they say about your attorney, right? They said the family must be mafia to hire them Incinuating that the attorney the family hired is so prestigious so expensive that the family must be a part of the mafia to afford them
Starting point is 00:02:53 Really now. Yeah, wow. Let's talk about the insane case of Jamie Comorowski and why her utter lack of remorse coupled with her parents Constant babying of her makes her in my humble opinion one of the scarier more dangerous people that we've talked about recently. As always full show notes are available at rattanminglepodcast.com. This is an ongoing case though. The perpetrator has not been tried in the court of law and as of the time of this recording I don't know when they're going to go to trial. So legally speaking, nobody has found guilty of any crimes as of now. But the evidence in this case is really, really damning. And there is, there's no debate of the facts of the incident. There's no points of contention there. It's just one of those things where I think we need to go and
Starting point is 00:03:42 wait through the legal proceedings as of right now. I'm also going to link the GoFundMe for the victim's family in the description. So with that being said, let's get into it. Wedding photographers, they always talk about how they might be better than a therapist at spotting which couples are going to make it after the big day, and which couples are going to divorce. Sometimes it's so blatantly obvious. I mean, one wedding videographer from Reddit said four days after he shot the wedding, the groom calls him and politely asks him to edit out any footage of him checking out the female guests. He
Starting point is 00:04:15 said, you know, I got like vision problems. I wasn't actually like checking them out. Another wedding photographer said, okay, this one's pretty bad. He was working for a couple's wedding on a golf course. The bride had this grand idea for the first look. The groom would ride down on the golf cart, see her in the dress for the first time, and it would be this massive cinematic moment. Well, the groom starts riding down the hill on the cart, but once he spots her, he can't help it. He jumps out the cart and runs full speed down the hill
Starting point is 00:04:46 in the grass to get to her faster. He picks her up, twirls her around in the air, and it was like the most genuine reaction to that. All of these wedding photographers, they're dying to get these moments. He was so happy to see her. But the minute he put their down, the bride looks at the photographer, well, I wanted the golf cart, so let's do it again. Wait, I wanted the golf cart? Yeah, she wants him to have the whole cinematic moment and drive down in the cart instead of running down. She didn't even care that her husband loved her so much
Starting point is 00:05:18 that he couldn't contain himself. She's like, no, I want the damn shot. They always say it's a really bad sign when the couple care more about the aesthetics and having the perfect wedding instead of their relationship. Those are signs that you would not find at Samantha and Eric's wedding. I really hate to say it, but they had the perfect wedding because it makes you want to roll your eyes when you're like, oh, they had the perfect wedding, they had the perfect relationship.
Starting point is 00:05:44 But their idea of the wedding was fun. Like that's what people said. I mean, I'm sure to a degree they cared about the photos. I'm not going to say, oh, no one cares about wedding photos and wedding aesthetics. So, man, that had so much fun picking out the flowers and all the arrangements for the wedding. Their main focus was just on having fun. April 28th of 2023, their wedding was held on Folly Beach in South
Starting point is 00:06:06 Carolina. About a hundred of their closest friends and family, I mean some of them lived in the area, some of them flew in to celebrate with a couple and the whole wedding was a blast. Even the photographers were probably having fun. It did not feel like a job. Samantha Sister Mandy baked the wedding cake and I feel like the wedding cake is symbolic of a wedding. It's fun. It was half pineapple, half coconut. Yeah, it's just what Samantha wanted. And while the wedding itself was stereotypically perfect, I mean, it was on the beach. You've got the salty breeze, you've got the waves crashing in the background. The only thing that all the guests notice though, Samantha and Eric are like in
Starting point is 00:06:46 their own little world. They cannot keep their eyes off of each other the entire time. If someone drops a wedding cake, a bottle of red wine on Samantha's wedding dress and like the DJ's power booth went out, it feels like the couple wouldn't even have been phased. Everyone kind of wanted to roll their eyes and like tell the couple to get a room, but they also knew that love like this wasn't easy to come by. A lot of their friends said,
Starting point is 00:07:12 it's a love that you can only dream about. It seemed really pure, it seemed really real, and it feels kind of impossible to find that these days. So the memorable night, it ends with every guest being past one of those sparklers that you use at the beach. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the little New Year thing? Yeah the New Year thing. Okay so you light one and it's like a long little match stick. You light one and it starts sparkling. It's so pretty in pictures especially at night because it creates this like light orb. A lot of people use it during the summer. So every guest
Starting point is 00:07:43 would light one up and they created this archway. They would hold it up in the air, created this arch above the couple's head so they had this aisle to walk out of their wedding ceremony in. They were going to go and sit in their golf cart that was waiting for them outside. It had a sign on the golf cart just married. The two are holding hands under their sparklers that are held above their heads and the couple would be driven back to their Airbnb by two of their family members. So there would be four people on this golf cart. And it's going to be the start of their new lives as a couple, as newlyweds. As the golf cart starts driving off, the couple could see everyone waving, you know, waving their
Starting point is 00:08:23 sparklers, waving their hands cheering for the couple. Samantha looked into Eric's eyes and she said, I want this day to last forever. Those would be Samantha's last words to Eric. 20 minutes later, the golf cart would be lying smashed on its side and Samantha Miller would be found dead in her wedding dress. Neighbors said it sounded like an explosion. Not as loud as like a gunshot or a crash but louder, like an explosion.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It was just around 10 pm, so most of the neighbors they hadn't fallen asleep yet and even if they had, it was loud enough to wake everyone up. They start rushing outside to investigate and they see bodies, bodies everywhere. Four bodies were laying on the road about a hundred yards away from a golf cart, all dressed to the nines, suits, tuxedo, wedding gown. It was a nightmare scene. A hundred yards. A hundred yards length of a football field.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. Length of a football field? Yes. The bodies were scattered, so not all of them were a hundred yards, but they were, yeah. length of a football field. Yeah. Length of a football field? Yes. The bodies were scattered, so not all of them were 100 yards, but they were, yeah. So, in the golf cart, there had been four people, and I'm sure we're all pretty familiar with what a golf cart looks like, but if you've never been in one, to give you more context, golf carts don't really have real seatbelts, and if it does, you're still basically sitting
Starting point is 00:09:43 on a seat that's exposed to the air. There's no doors. It's almost like a rudimentary frame of a vehicle. They're often used on golf ranges, obviously, and beaches. Because they're really light. You can get out and in pretty easily since there's no doors. I've even seen them in really high-end resorts and hotels. Because the back of the golf cart is kind of like a bench that bench faces backwards. So resorts will let hotel guests just hop onto the back, be driven to the room, to the main building, things like that. You can just hop back off. You're not facing forward with the driver. You're facing the back. Samantha and Eric were riding in the back facing the rear end. Samantha's brother Benjamin was in the front
Starting point is 00:10:26 driving. Next to him in the front was his 17-year-old son and we're just gonna call him Benny. You can find his real name online but since he was a minor at the time we're gonna call him Benny. The four, they had been waved off by all these wedding guests. After the couple departed, everyone at the wedding, they start making their way back home, they start making them their way back to the hotels, Airbnb's, whatever their accommodations were, if they were from out of town. So Lisa Miller, Samantha's mom and Mandy Jenkins, Samantha's sister, they drove back to their Airbnb, which was all kind of in like the general same area. Samantha and Eric's place was really close to theirs, so they're like, okay, let's just go home and wind down from this really beautiful,
Starting point is 00:11:07 but really exhausting day. And all of a sudden, they hear sirens. Lots of sirens. Mom's just no. I don't know how they know, but they just know when something is wrong with their kid. It's one of those things where I feel like even science probably can't pinpoint how, or they'll say it's just a coincidence, but there have been so many times where mothers get a gut feeling, and there is no reasoning other than, this is my baby, I think something happened to my baby.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Lisa Miller had that gut feeling. It was so strong. She ran out of her Airbnb without shoes on. They took off down the street to where they could see ambulances and police lights flashing. They were still a little bit far from the scene and they didn't know what was going on yet, but Lisa remembers screaming Sammy, Sammy, Sammy. And she said it was like this bad Netflix movie unfolding in front of her eyes. This next part is a bit confusing and I'm not sure if Lisa and Mandy weren't allowed near the scene for I don't know a lot of reasons or if someone instructed them to go to the hospital instead
Starting point is 00:12:11 But they were under the impression that Samantha would be brought into the hospital And that's where they needed to be to be right by Samantha's side once she was brought in I'm kind of glad that they left for the hospital because the scene is really gruesome to say the least. Now, according to officials, the golf cart that had Benjamin, the brother, his son Benny, and the newlywed couple in the back, was completely mangled. It was on its side, and the four passengers had all been launched out of the cart. All of them were bleeding, they were fading in and out of consciousness, all but one. Samantha Miller was lying on the ground on her back, still in her wedding dress, without a pulse. Officers tried their best to perform life-saving measures, but ultimately it was too late. Samantha Miller was pronounced deceased at the scene. She was only 34 years
Starting point is 00:13:04 old. Looking at the scene, She was only 34 years old. Looking at the scene, it wasn't difficult for officers to put two and two together. The golf cart had been driving down the road when a gray Toyota camera had smashed into the car, sending every single person in that golf cart for lying. The driver of the Toyota camera came came out, unscathed. What?
Starting point is 00:13:26 25-year-old Jamie Kamarasi stumbled out of the car and she said, something hit me, something hit me. It's said by neighbors and witnesses that she saw people laying on the ground and she started screaming, who, what happened? Just hours ago, Samantha was walking down the aisle. One foot in front of the other, she was steady, not just in her walk, but her conviction to marry this man in front of her, she was really happy.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Jamie Kamarowski also put one foot in front of another, but she wasn't as steady, it was a little shaky. And then she almost stumbled. She caught herself, gained control over her balance again, and then tried again. She still had a few more bars to go to, that she still wanted to hit up, and all she had to do was get in her car. These are not the exact timeline of events, as I believe that's going to come out during the trial, but I think it's the parallel of what's going on is very chilling. While Samantha walks down the aisle
Starting point is 00:14:28 looking at all these faces tearing up at her, Jamie got off her shift at the Taco Boy Mexican restaurant and went for an after-work function. She starts drinking. She gets in her car and drives to another bar. While Samantha and Eric cut the cake, Jamie downs another drink at the second bar only to get behind the wheel once more and go to her third location. While Samantha and Eric share their first dance
Starting point is 00:14:55 as husband and wife, Jamie was seen by multiple witnesses consuming copious amounts of beer and shots of tequila. She's by herself, just bar hopping? Yeah. Jamie had gone to, just bar hopping? Yeah. Jamie had gone to like five different bars that night. People reported seeing Jamie drunk. They said that she was behaving drunk.
Starting point is 00:15:11 She was drinking a lot. Yet she still got behind the wheel each and every single time. Eventually she decided it was time to go home. Except she was probably so drunk she didn't even realize that she was heading in the opposite direction of her house. She wasn't even supposed to be on the same road that Samantha and Eric were on that night. She didn't even live near them. She's going 65 miles per hour on a 25 mile per hour road called Ashley Avenue. The same road where the newlyweds were traveling,
Starting point is 00:15:45 going speed limit. There is footage from a neighborhood ring camera of this street. And you can see that there's a golf cart going pretty slowly. Like you can make it out. You see the headlights, you see all the lights on. It's pretty clear to see. And it's just kind of cruising.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Imagine driving down your local neighborhood. You're not gonna be speeding it. There could be kids out there. Could be straight cats or local neighborhood. You're not going to be speeding it. There could be kids out there. There could be straight cats or dogs out. You're not going to be booking it. So you see them at a visibly safe speed on the residential street. And then soon after you see Jamie's cart speeding down the street visibly, it is scary fast. And these two vehicles, they're not going to pass each other.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They're going to collide at 65 miles per hour. Sam and Eric were sitting in the open air with their faces to the back of the golf cart. There was a 3500 pound vehicle coming hurling straight at them. I mean, technically, you can almost see it as, so one that's going 25 the other's going 65 you can almost assume that first one's going like standing there in a car just smash into them at 40 miles an hour. Straight in their face. And 3,500 pounds coming at you like that. I mean that's not going to be 3,500 pounds. It's going to be more like 36,000 pound heavy machinery coming at an unprotected human body directly. That's like the weight of a whale shark. There was someone who put this
Starting point is 00:17:14 situation into perspective really, really well. They said that drunk drivers are like missiles. Once they're launching towards you, they're locked in and it's hard to change their direction. Missiles are designed to kill and destroy. If you're drunk and you're operating something that powerful, you basically become in charge of a deadly weapon. You know how online there's this whole sentiment of, well, don't expect to look like a celebrity if you're not spending celebrity money. And I always thought that having a personal stylist was part of that.
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Starting point is 00:21:11 did nothing wrong. So while Samantha Miller was found dead at the scene, the other three were rushed to the hospital, treated for their wounds. The ambulance carrying Samantha would have their lights and sirens turned off. They don't turn on their lights and sirens because it was too late. It didn't matter how quickly Samantha got to the hospital. She had already passed. Samantha's mom and sister, who were waiting at the hospital, they would find out from Samantha's
Starting point is 00:21:36 dad that she passed away at the scene. The other three, they get sent to the hospital. Eric was in really bad shape. I mean, he was immediately sent into critical care. He was knocked out, like he was not even conscious. It stated that he had open fractures, massive trauma, up and down his body. He had broken vertebrae.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I believe both of his legs were severely injured if not altogether broken. He sustained brain injuries. One of his eyes was completely black and purple and there was blood streaming down his face. He could not even open his eyes. He was unconscious for a while and Eric's mom, she was handed a clear bag from the hospital. It had Eric's wedding band in there.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Because Eric had to be scanned, he had to be treated, operated on. And this is just hours after he put it on. Just hours after he vowed to take care of Samantha for the rest of his life. Thankfully he did wake up, and just as his mom guessed, the first thing that he asked about was, where Samantha, where Samantha? Eric's mom had to tell him that she was gone. That Samantha didn't make it. And Eric was an absolute wreck.
Starting point is 00:22:40 He said later in an interview, that night was the best night of his life, and he doesn't remember anything. He wishes he remembers more, but all he remembers was Samantha wishing. I wish today would never end. And then he woke up in a foggy haze in a hospital asking where Sam? Where Sam? He said that Jamie took something from him that night. She stole an amazing human being that should have not been taken.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And I feel like Eric's mom in that moment, I mean, she had layers of devastation. Eric's mom was devastated to see her son injured and then devastated to see her son so devastated at the loss of his newly wed life. But also, Eric's mom herself was devastated at losing Samantha too. Samantha was something special to everyone.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You know, they were all excited to have her in the family. She remembered the first thing that Samantha ever said to her. It was, hello, future mother-in-law. And if it was maybe anybody else, it might have come off a little bit weird, maybe a little strong, but both families. They just really knew that these two were in love. It was just a matter of time before they got married. And now this just felt like some sort of sick joke. They're both having the best day of their lives, marrying their soulmates in front of the people they love. I mean, the visual of them leaving on the golf cart, waving, smiling, getting teary eyed
Starting point is 00:24:02 from happiness, it's going to be burned into everybody's memories. Mandy didn't even get a chance to ask Samantha, did you like the wedding cake? Benjamin, Samantha's brother, was also extremely injured. He had separated joints in his hip, he had two broken vertebrae in his back, he had severe road rash, which is when you slide across the pavement so quickly and with so much force that your skin is basically shaved off, he had to be sent to the burn unit during his recovery. He had to undergo multiple surgeries to clean out and patch up his injuries.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And thankfully, the nephew Benny, he was okay. He only sustained some cuts and bruises along with a concussion, which makes it sound like a concussion isn't bad, but it's really bad. But compared to the other three victims, it could have been a lot, lot worse. Eric and Benjamin were in such bad shape that it was originally believed by many, that at least one of them wasn't gonna make it through the night.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Thankfully, they both survived. So while the medical teams are doing everything to help the wounded, officers arrive at the scene and it's pretty obvious That Jamie was messed up. I mean they could smell the alcohol that just permeated from her skin It's like a perfume at this point not even just from her breath They asked her where she was headed. She's at home Like I said, she was heading in the opposite direction of her home. Why do I feel like she's not heading to home then? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Is she heading to another bar? She's just sitting on a beer thing. Yes, I don't know. That's weird. Did you have anything to drink tonight? No. I had two drinks. One beer and a drink.
Starting point is 00:25:38 What kind of drink? Like a tequila pineapple? An hour or so ago? Which is just tequila with pineapple juice. Okay, on a scale of 1-10, how drunk are you? One being completely sober and 10 being the most drunk that you've ever been. Eight. After that, Jamie immediately asks for an attorney.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Now, none of this is adding up. If she went to that many bars before the crash, it's hard for me to personally believe that she only had a beer and a tequila pineapple. I mean, maybe she could be super lightweight, but like, I don't believe it. They didn't do a test right there. She wouldn't let them. She was driving in the wrong direction. I feel like that's very telling.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And that's not to say that she's purposely lying or misleading the police. But if it does come out that she had way more to drink than that, which is what everybody believes and what her B.A.C. level show, then she could have been so drunk that she didn't even know what was going on when she's responding to these questions. Maybe she blacked out and truly didn't remember having so many drinks, which in and of itself is another huge huge problem.
Starting point is 00:26:39 She knew she was drunk, but she also knew that she wanted to go into self-preservation mode and get an attorney and refuse a sobriety test. Yeah. Instead, she asked multiple times if her boyfriend could come. She said she wanted her boyfriend, and there is no mention of her boyfriend being an attorney, and when officers asked why she wanted her boyfriend, she couldn't really say for what?
Starting point is 00:27:01 She just refused to complete any of the sobriety test that they requested. So what do they do? They try to lift her feet to her arm. Yeah, it's interesting. What does that mean? They try to lift up one of her legs in like almost a kicking motion and she's basically a ragdoll. Like if someone does that to you slowly, you're able to balance. You might be like, what are you doing? But you're able to balance, right? She was basically a rag doll because she immediately lost her footing and nearly fell. Jamie was arrested at the scene. She had to be reminded three times of why she was being arrested. And I don't think that this is a situation of Jamie being combative. Like, why are you arresting me? What authority do you have to arrest me? Like, on what grounds? I
Starting point is 00:27:44 don't think that's what it was, but more so, she's no idea what's going on. She's like, why are we getting arrested? Yeah. Okay. Which honestly, I don't know which one is worse. Once they get her to the police station, officers give Jamie another chance to take a breath test, and she refuses again. She simply asks for her boyfriend and her father. The officers had to get a literal warrant from the judge to force her to get her blood tested. The results came back as three times over the legal limit.
Starting point is 00:28:15 At levels like that, it was 0.261 for anyone who's into the BAC levels, or if you know what that number exactly means, but typically, levels like this, a lot of people are barely conscious, much less able to operate a vehicle and or heavy machinery. Jamie was also booked under suicide watch because after her arrest, she mentioned that she wanted to offer herself. She was charged with one count
Starting point is 00:28:42 of reckless vehicular homicide, three counts of felony DUI with death or great bodily injury. Have you ever heard the phrase bad things happen to good people? I really don't like this phrase but I think it's most commonly used when you have nothing else to say. When something just feels so unfair at Samantha's vigil, which was held on the very beach that she got married on. That was the main thought that everybody had in their mind. Why do bad
Starting point is 00:29:10 things happen to good people? And some people just said that Samantha had this gravitational pull. You know, there are just some people out there for whatever reason. Sometimes the reason itself is unclear, you know, but you just want to be around them. Maybe they have a good energy. Maybe when you talk, it seems like they genuinely are listening to you and not just filling the silence. And it's hard to pinpoint, but you feel like a magnet. You feel like you just want to hang out with them. And Samantha Miller was that magnet. People said she just had this very bright air around her. You couldn't even look away when she's in the room. She would be the type to go run errands, go grocery shopping, pick out the prettiest, freshest bouquet of flowers in the entire store. Go to checkout
Starting point is 00:29:56 and when everything is paid for, she's about to walk out, she would hand the bouquet over to the cashier, a complete stranger and say, for you, have a nice day, that was Samantha Miller. I'm sure like every couple, they fought, they had their down times, but the two met in 2019, moved across the country twice to be with each other. They adopted a kitten and started making plants to get married and start their own family. They lived near Folly Beach, this was Samantha's favorite beach in the whole wide world, and they would walk down to the beach at least once a day. They were at that beach every single day. And at Samantha's vigil again, people just couldn't stop asking, why do bad things happen to good people? That's also what Jamie's dad told her when she was
Starting point is 00:30:43 sitting in her prison uniform staring at her hands and she told him, I just don't know why this had to happen to me. Oh my god, I just can't believe this happened to me. Why me? I'm going to be here for years and years and years. That's what she said? Yeah. And her dad responds, because bad things happen to good people, honey. And again, your bad things happen to block your full people,
Starting point is 00:31:09 and that's what happens. Now you have to make the best of the situation. Her father reassures her that this was all fate. It's already happened, there's nothing they can do to change it, and now they just need to focus on their best to overcome it. If anything, this will help her become a better person. Listen, if you need someone to pass away in order for you to become a better person in my humble opinion, you're just not a good person. Also, how does bad things happen to good people even apply to Jamie in this situation?
Starting point is 00:31:40 A bad thing didn't happen to her. She did the bad thing. And whether or not she's a good person, I mean, I guess that part is up for debate, right? At first, Jamie is responsive. She's listening, nodding her head, listening to her dad. But then she would slip back and remember all the hard bad things that she was dealing with. They're just chatting in prison? Yeah, FaceTime call basically. It's like the prison video call system. Yeah. Which is available online to see. So they were chatting, it was recorded. Yeah. And this is everything they said. This they had no idea. I'm assuming that this would be
Starting point is 00:32:17 public information. Jamie would have these screaming fits. So I listened to a lot of their phone conversations. She would just have these screaming fits. I'm listened to a lot of their phone conversations. She would just have these screaming fits. I'm not sure how to categorize them. And I tried really hard to understand where Jamie is coming from, just like trying to have a little bit of nuance on both sides. I'm pretty close to Jamie and age.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I also struggle with anxiety and depression, which is what Jamie said she struggled with. And I don't have an alcohol addiction problem, but considering all of that, these screaming fits, I truly can't imagine anyone that I have in my life, myself, I can't imagine someone my age throwing these screaming fits. It's like screaming bloody murder. It's not even pain- What is she screaming though? She's like screaming bloody murder. It's not even pain- What is she screaming though? She's like, ah! Like screaming.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And it's odd because her parents, her parents' reaction is very, very odd. They just kind of focus on calming her down. The minute she starts screaming, they're almost using this soft baby-ish voice with her, it just felt very inappropriate. But the most intriguing call to me was Jamie complaining to her dad on the phone about how much
Starting point is 00:33:27 media coverage this case was receiving. Jamie asks him why the media is so involved in the case. It's just like me because he's scared that the media is so involved in it. Why are they so involved in it? He states it's most likely because the story sells. And Jamie gets frustrated and she states, but that's not gonna help me. But that's not gonna help me like, oh my god, that's gonna be so bad when I get out. Everybody's gonna be so mean to me.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Wow. What is that? There's no sense of what happened, but everything is about how does that impact herself being. Okay, so I saw some clips on TikTok where Jamie sounds a little bit more remorseful when talking to her parents and she's apologizing to her parents. I'm not exactly sure for what, whether she's apologizing for what she's done, which I don't think is the case, or if she's apologizing for putting her parents in a situation that's this stressful.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But I do see some sympathy for Jamie out there, which I think is very interesting to me. I see a lot of people bringing up alcohol addiction. I know someone who struggles with alcohol addiction and trust me, they're not drunk driving. Alcohol addiction does not equate to drunk driving. It's still a choice that she made, yeah alcohol does impair judgment but it's still a choice that she made and someone died because of that choice.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Anyway, during one call her dad tells her more information about what happened is coming out. And Jamie in almost this teenager voice, she's 25. Please keep this in mind. She's 25. She's a full grown adult. She says, such as your BAC levels, your blood alcohol levels, but that just makes me even more scared of the future and everything. Jamie, your future is going to be fine. Your future is something that we can't do anything about.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Your future is going to be okay. We can just work with what we have. Other notable parts of conversations are when Jamie keeps telling her parents or herself, I don't really know, that she's not a threat to society. She's trying to get out on bail. And at one point, she says, I'm wondering when the heck I'm gonna get my coloring pencils.
Starting point is 00:35:40 What is she doing with that? She wants to color, yeah. And she also winds, Dad, I'm not a bad person, I'm not a bad person. Her dad softly tells her to quiet down and she starts screaming that it's all over because her boyfriend and her cat will be gone when she gets out. And she screams, oh my god, oh my god, I'm going to be here for years and years and years and years and this is just a terrible, terrible accident. I still don't understand why this had to happen to me.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I just don't understand. Her dad tells her, baby, terrible things happen to good people. It's just what happens. Listen to me. It's not terrible. It's really terrible. To which Jamie starts screaming, okay dad, I know that! Her dad tries to calm her down and says, but, but it's gonna be hard, it's not gonna be
Starting point is 00:36:29 easy, we have today, we have tomorrow, we don't worry about yesterday. Okay dad, I mean it was a golf cart, like golf carts shouldn't be allowed on the freaking road. Why me, why me, why me of all people, why me, I don't understand like this could have happened to so many other people. And it was a golf car. I know how much we know how much I love golf cars. I didn't do that on the freaking road. I said this could happen to anyone like why me? Like why me and all people?, why, I don't understand, like just could have happened to so many other people.
Starting point is 00:37:11 In another part Jamie asks her parents, what I'm saying is what I'm just wondering is like, so like, are you and mom going to pick me up when I get bail? I'm just excited to get some answers. Another clip is Jamie saying, I'm not a bad person and like it could have happened to anyone. It was just a freak accident. It's not like I'm going out and shooting people on purpose. It was an accident. I don't think I'll be going to like prison or anything. She does not believe that she's going to prison.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Her mom in a soft voice just goes, that's great baby, that's great. And I'm just, when all this is done, I can just be happy. It said that Jamie also constantly complained about her living situation in the detention center, which I always think it's very fascinating when people do this, okay? Obviously, if you're being abused, your disalted or any sort of that against your human rights, that's not what I'm talking about. That is a legitimate complaint. But when people like Jamie complain about things such as
Starting point is 00:38:16 not having control over the TV remote, not being given a yoga mat to do crunches, it's kind of a situation where I wonder, where was the common sense? It's a detention center. It's not the four seasons. It's pretty expected that you're not going to have control over what you can consume and what you can't in terms of entertainment.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's, it's not a, there's no concierge. You're not going to get a yoga mat. She also allegedly complained about being unsatisfied with the food options. She didn't like the hot dogs or the meatballs or the bread. A lot of people said compared to real prison food, this is good stuff. At one point, she said she was given two hot dogs
Starting point is 00:39:01 with no buns or condiments. And it was, and I quote, so bad, it's so bad. So Jamie is in her cell crying, not about what she did, but crying about her life and how shitty it was and why this all had to happen to her. That's crazy, because it just seems like she has no idea of what's going on. She doesn't even know how bad she fucked up and what's about a comp. It's the feeling, right? Like, she's about to get some real reality check. Yeah. If this keeps going on, right?
Starting point is 00:39:31 And she's in a detention center right now. Just wait till prison. That's, it's going to be crazy for her. Yeah, on the bright side, there were a few things that she liked about the detention center, the cookies. She said this about the cookies that they gave out during snack time. She said, these cookies that they give you at this jail, I'm going to start buying them
Starting point is 00:39:50 when I come home. I'm not kidding. She says I'm not kidding. Oh, and she really likes their soap. She talks about their soap. She really likes the soap and jail. Okay, I mean, it's so clear to me what's wrong here. Even Jamie's actions in the beginning of this case
Starting point is 00:40:06 sound to me. It's just someone who is waiting for someone to come clean up her mess. And then when she was arrested, she asked for her boyfriend and her dad. I mean, asking for an attorney, I'm always a supporter of that, but it's just, it feels to me, she thinks that someone is just gonna come and save the day.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And that's maybe what they always do. This is why I'm a firm believer in letting people learn the idea of consequences when they're kids, because the consequences typically don't involve other people and don't involve people's lives when they're young. But I feel when parents constantly teach their kids that they're going to be saved and they're not going to have consequences and that they're the most important person in the room, you get someone like Jamie. I'm not saying that her parents should just abandon her
Starting point is 00:40:48 and I'm not saying that her parents aren't also negatively impacted and saddened by this, but listen to the conversation. At one point, Jamie apologizes to her parents and like I said, I don't know if she's apologizing for her actions or for the situation that her family is in. It's unclear, but her dad literally tells her, listen Jamie, you don't need to be sorry. There's nothing to be sorry about.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It was a tragic accident. You didn't do anything on purpose. Sorry. Jamie, listen. There's nothing to be sorry about. It's a tragic accident. You did not do anything on about. It's a tragic accident. You did not do anything on purpose. It was a tragic accident, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:31 All right, you don't need to tell me ever that you're sorry for what happened, do you understand? That wasn't the first time they had a conversation like this either. Anytime she tries to apologize to her parents, they stop her and say that she has nothing to be sorry about. I feel like they're all in for a very rude awakening. Again, I'm not saying they should hate or abandon their daughter, but they can still love their
Starting point is 00:41:51 daughter, support her pay for her attorney fees that only mafia members can afford, but still make very, very, very clear to her, though what she did was wrong and terrible, and that she's at fault and now she's got to face the consequences. And when she gets out, they'll be with her. They'll help her. Even the phrasing of Jamie's words to her parents, it's always why me, me, me, me, me, me. I'm going to be here for years and years and years. It is just so odd that she's complaining that her life is over when literally someone's life was over. Someone died. And it's odd that she and her family
Starting point is 00:42:26 at least to the public knowledge that we have speak very little, if not at all, about what happened. It's all about Jamie and what's going on with Jamie and Jamie's cat and Jamie's boyfriend and oh my god, everyone's gonna be so mean to her because the media keeps talking about it. There are no mentions that I could find of any of the remaining victims or their families. We don't really know too much about it. There are no mentions that I could find of any of the remaining victims or their families.
Starting point is 00:42:46 We don't really know too much about Jamie. I mean, no one's really come forward to talk about her character, or if she was a great person or not, not saying that there's no people that can do that, but just not many other than her family that have come out to talk about her. So all we have are her records
Starting point is 00:43:01 and these phone conversations. And they paint a pretty damning picture. Jamie grew up in Jersey. Allegedly her dad is a very successful multi-millionaire businessman. Eventually, she would move to South Carolina to attend college. And after graduating, she starts working
Starting point is 00:43:18 at this local Mexican restaurant called The Taco Boy. All we could really find about her personal life comes from her Instagram, which again, is not a good or very accurate depiction of one's personal life, but it does seem that she does enjoy a good party, which is not abnormal for a recent college graduate, but there are quite a bit of photos of her with alcohol in them in her hand or either alluding to alcohol, but one picture that has gone a little bit more viable is from her Instagram from 2015.
Starting point is 00:43:48 She's sitting in the car in the driver's side and the caption just reads, you gotta trust your instincts and let go of regret. This posted not age well. A lot of people were commenting things like, well, this is f***ed up now. Others pointed out, let's not do that. The other only personal thing that we know
Starting point is 00:44:04 is Jamie was seeking treatment for anxiety and depression before the crash. others pointed out, let's not do that. The other only personal thing that we know is Jamie was seeking treatment for anxiety and depression before the crash. Again, this does not make you make the decision to drink and drive. So it's apparent that she is having some sort of trouble, some sort of struggle in her life. Her parents even acknowledge that she had addiction issues when it came to alcohol and they wanted her to seek treatment in rehab.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But this wasn't even Jamie's first driving violation. There are some rumors that she had previous DUIs, they weren't DUIs, they were just traffic violations, moving violations. Prior to the crash, Jamie had four traffic violations and again, she's only 25 so that's a lot. From 2018 to 2019, she received three speeding violations and then on April 5th 2023 Just weeks before Samantha was killed she pled guilty to failure to use a turn or stop signal There is another detail from Jamie
Starting point is 00:44:58 It's more so from her family's past that gets brought up a lot in correlation with this case. On March 28, 2013, Tracy Kamarowski, Jamie's mom, was driving in an area where firefighters were battling this huge fire. Jeffrey Schuerer was a firefighter trying to put out that said fire. He was partly in the street when he was hit by Tracy's car. Well, he was where? Partly on's car. He was where? Partly on the street. He was standing there? Yeah, while he was hosing down a fire.
Starting point is 00:45:31 What? Now this was definitely an accident. Tracy was not drunk. It was proven that there were lots of smoke and poor lighting. So Jeffrey was almost impossible to see. No one is really questioning that part. The part that is getting to netizens is that Jeffrey's family feels like there was no justice because Tracy, Jamie's mom, apparently didn't face any consequences even though the police said that they would
Starting point is 00:45:53 be on top of it. So just like in Jamie's case, a lawsuit was made against Tracy saying she was negligent enough to not slow down knowing that there was there was a lot of firefighter activity in the area. And that caused her to kill Jeffrey. Tracy ended up having to pay $100,000 in settlements, signaling to a lot of netizens that the court must have found her negligent in some regard to have the sentence go through. So I'm not sure how to stand on that. It's not Jamie's actions and it does seem to be a true accident from at least Jamie's mom's perspective, but netizens speculate that maybe the family has such a nonchalant attitude to Jamie's case because they've already been through something like this, and
Starting point is 00:46:35 they've paid $100,000 and they were fine. Maybe they believe that as long as you pay up, you'll avoid true punishment like jail time. There's no way to know for sure unless they admitted themselves, which I don't see why they would do that, but netizens found a lot of similarities regarding these instances, and I just felt like it was worth mentioning. Three months after her arrest, Jamie's bond hearing comes up, and she tells the judges that she's not a flight risk, nor would she be a threat to others. Samantha's family were also there to appeal to the judge.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Samantha's father said, bonds are meant for people to spend time with their family, right? He's pointing out that it's ironic considering he will never have that luxury again. He will never be able to see Samantha ever again. He's saying, if and when Jamie serves her time, she will still have the opportunity to spend the rest of her life with her family afterwards. Samantha's father also states that Jamie is a danger to society, and he questions what's going to happen if Jamie starts drinking again?
Starting point is 00:47:34 How many people are going to get hurt then? Samantha's other brother, Nathan Miller, told the judge that Jamie's actions of driving down a narrow residential street while drunk at night at that speed is so careless that there almost had to have been an intention to hurt someone He states the alcohol is not the problem. The problem is Jamie herself She is not responsible enough to be trusted. She is not trusted to show up back in court Not trusted to not hurt anybody else and not trusted to not drink They bring up the fact that Jamie had prior court dates that she did not attend for previous traffic violations, which proves that she cannot
Starting point is 00:48:08 be trusted to show up in court if she gets out on bail. Samantha's sibling stated that if Jamie has released the next victim could just as easily be anybody else's loved ones in that very courtroom. Lisa, Samantha's mom said, she didn't just kill my daughter. She killed all of us. On Jamie's side, her father stood up to speak. He gave his condolences to the families involved and told them that he can't even grasp how painful this must be for them. He states that he knows she will not flee if she is released. He also states that she is in a transformative part of her life right now. The screaming fits on the phone, I guess,
Starting point is 00:48:45 are transformative exercises. He said she understands that her circumstances may help other people with their addiction problems and keep them from ending up like her. If she is released, they plan to directly put her in a recovery center for a period of time, determined either by the judge or for as long as the workers at the center's seam fit. Their attorney also got an addictions specialist to speak on how they've seen people in these
Starting point is 00:49:12 situations before battling addictions and have over a commit and become better people, and that she has hoped for Jamie to do the same. Here's my thing. I was on Reddit and a lot of people who do struggle with addiction are really offended by how this case is being presented by Jamie side They're using addiction as their fighting point Mm-hmm. And they're making it about all people with addiction Addiction is a crisis that is affecting so many lives
Starting point is 00:49:40 But no the problem is not addiction. It is a problem, but this is not the case is problem It's still drunk driving. Yeah, so it's just it feels really gross to people that are battling their own struggles right now Yeah, they're trying to make addiction development rather than her. Yes, and it's like well, no you but then that also just shows more of her Disregarding her behavior. Yeah, she's still not acknowledging what she did was what caused this. Yeah. So that makes it even worse. And I think without these phone calls, I think people would have been a bit more sympathetic of, okay, maybe this truly is addiction. She made a horrendous, horrendous choice
Starting point is 00:50:17 that nobody should ever make. Maybe she can try to grow. But these phone calls show she doesn't want to. That's my opinion, she doesn't want to. So part of the leaked phone calls that Jamie had with her father and okay, well, the phone calls weren't necessarily leaked. There's an FOIA that was filed by media outlets. It's a freedom of information act. Media outlets requested voice and video calls between the Kamarowski family be released to the public. Yeah. Which is the thing because all video and phone calls in jail that are not with your attorney are recorded and they are technically can be public information. There is one part in the phone call where her dad tells her that if she gets out on bail she will need to go to rehab. She's nodding
Starting point is 00:51:04 but her eyes seem so over it. She looks like a teenager being told to clean her room. She responds very enthusiastically, okay. How long is that? 46 weeks. She rolls her eyes. I'm talking bug eye roll. Like not even a small, like quick, what?
Starting point is 00:51:24 I'm talking full I roll like not even a small like quick what I'm talking full like All right, if it helps my case, then I'll do it Her dad says it might help you a little too Sure She seems visibly disinterested so clearly if she gets out and goes to rehab I personally don't think that she's gonna change and not terrifying It also just shows a lot how she became this way. Yes, like through the parenting and their interactions Yeah, I did see some people sympathizing with the parents and saying things like, you know
Starting point is 00:51:58 Her parents are also victims in this because they're losing their loved ones and everyone's affected But I think how she got here is crazy. I mean, if you... I'm sure most of our parents would have not responded like that. Let's just be honest. Exactly. I don't know if the judge is all of that, but she was denied bail. She can only get bond now if they don't set a trial date before March 2024, and even
Starting point is 00:52:22 then, she'll be given $150,000 bond, constant monitoring of her B.A.C. levels and house arrest. Jamie burst into tears when she heard that she wasn't getting bond. Which to me, I guess signals that she truly believed that she was somehow going to get out of this. Now I do want to be fair and mention that there are times that Jamie expresses remorse for what has happened. But most of it is accompanied by her saying that she doesn't want to be in jail for a long time. Overall, it seems that Jamie is a lot more genuine
Starting point is 00:52:51 and authentic when she's complaining about being in jail. Netizens have pointed out that her response reeks of privilege as if she's frustrated that saying sorry isn't enough. That is the energy she gives in a lot of these conversations. Like I said, sorry, what more do you want from me? Is the energy. She talks in the recordings like someone
Starting point is 00:53:12 who didn't do anything that wrong and is being wrongfully persecuted. And her parents seem to be feeding her delusion that she's not at fault. So while Jamie was upset at being denied bond, Samantha's family, they felt peace of mind and soul. They said that now they don't have to worry about Jamie being a danger to society.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Samantha's mother Lisa said, Jamie created havoc in everyone's lives. I don't think that three months spent in jail. I mean, three months is nothing. It seems like yesterday for us. Why should she get out and just go about her marry way? So yeah, why should she be free and live her best life? Her daughter is gone forever because of Jamie's choice. There have been other developments in this case. One that was really unexpected was a sheriff is under fire. During conversations Jamie has with her boyfriend, like video calls,
Starting point is 00:54:04 it sounds like she's getting special treatment from Sheriff Kristen Graziano, which if you think Sheriff Kristen is just out here supporting all inmates, I don't know. I honestly don't know. So Jamie is saying things like, oh, the sheriff is going to like try and help me. The sheriff said that she's seen cases like mine and they get out. The sheriff thinks that I don't belong in prison. Blah, blah, blah. It's weird. The sheriff helped her meet her parents when they weren't allowed to meet at a time or
Starting point is 00:54:29 something like that. She's just alluding to all these things that the sheriff is doing for her. Now, sheriff, Kristen, her previous scandal that I could find about her was she was under fire by a local congresswoman for quote, troubling and tragic deaths of inmates, the moment that she took office. So after the sheriff got into office, a bunch of inmates had some troubling and tragic deaths while they were being held.
Starting point is 00:54:53 A tragic death? Yeah. Okay. So Sheriff Kristen responded that these deaths happened at the hands of the counties contracted medical provider and not her. She claims that these were also some concerns that she had that she had been trying to share with her superiors, which she was constantly ignored.
Starting point is 00:55:10 So, this was like a mini scandal for Sheriff Kristen, right? But now she's under fire for the conversations Jamie was having, where it sounds like she's getting special treatment from the sheriff, and how the sheriff is telling all of these things. In some of the calls, Jamie reportedly refers to Sheriff Kristen just by her first name. And even stated that Sheriff Kristen is going to try and help her get out, which side note, Sheriff's have no legal holding over who gets out on bail.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Now, sometimes, when Jamie would talk about the sheriff, her dad would kind of hush her to tell her to stop discussing these things. The sheriff's office said that this is not special treatment and Sheriff Graziano is always visiting inmates and maybe Jamie got the wrong idea. But here's what's interesting. Well, actually, two things that are interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:56 The first being that Sheriff Kristen does have connections to Jamie's family. Apparently through one of Jamie's lawyers. I don't know how Sheriff Kristen is connected to that lawyer. Maybe they're both clients of this expensive mafia lawyer. I don't know. Maybe it's a friend of a friend. But it does seem like there's some sort of connection.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Does that mean something is happening behind the scenes? I have no idea. We don't know that, but the connection was just allegedly out there. After articles were published of Jamie's special treatment in jail by The Sheriff, more freedom of information requests were made to get more footage, but they were denied by The Sheriff. Great television, a media company,
Starting point is 00:56:36 would actually sue Sheriff Kristen for that. The belief by some netizens being that clearly, The Sheriff has something to hide. I mean, so far, the phone calls have been really damning for Jamie. What is the sheriff? Like, she has no skin in the game. Unless she does. The sheriff's office said any additional release of the tapes may affect the defendant's
Starting point is 00:56:56 privacy, her safety, and her right to a fair trial. These are exceptions that all fall under the guidelines that allow a government agency to refuse an FOIA request. On July 10th, a court hearing took place over the other recordings that hadn't been yet released to the public and the judge cited with great television. And a lot of it fell on the fact that when inmates are in conversations with family or loved ones, there are signs above each phone and tablet that visibly state all calls are recorded. Judges stated that inmates immediately consent to being recorded the moment that they pick up the phone,
Starting point is 00:57:32 which means there is no reason for why the Sheriff's Office should be withholding the calls from being released to the public since they are considered public records. No privacy is breached by releasing them. Yeah, and yeah, exactly. Why would Sheriff even trying to protect these information? Yeah. This is not even their job to protect their privacy. Like what? Mm-hmm. You know, these are, you know. And like, when have we ever heard a chair of caring about a citizen's privacy, especially in inmates' privacy? I've never heard of that in my life. Like, you think there's chairs just out there like, no, inmate privacy. I've never heard of that in my life. Like, you think there's chairs just out there like, no, inmate privacy.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Exactly. That's the hill I'm gonna die on. It's weird. So, is there new videos or? Yeah, so a lot of the ones that we talked about are some of the released ones. Oh, those were later released. She was trying to.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Oh yeah. Yeah. Obviously, there's would have been a different case if she was talking to her lawyer, but there was no attorney client privilege amongst families. So yeah, in the end, Sheriff Kristen Graziano is expected to pay gray media $33,000 to cover their legal fees of taking this to court. I have no idea how to feel about this whole part mainly because I'm scared of sheriffs, but ultimately, even if there is no special treatment being given, sheriffs Kristen is only helping give Jamie more reason to believe that she herself is the victim in this situation. And that kind of bothers a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:58:59 As of now, Eric has filed a wrongful death suit against Jamie and the restaurants that she went to that night. Eric and his attorneys argue that the restaurants that Jamie went to drink are responsible for over-serving her drinks while she was already drunk. The lawsuit details that the businesses were setting quote events into motion for the data turned deadly. Basically, they're saying that when the bars saw Jamie super intoxicated, it was their duty to not allow her to keep drinking. The claims also state that these bars did not properly train their staff in order to prevent over-serving, and that they should have known that Jamie was drunk and she was going to drive.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I've seen mixed feelings about this online, about whether or not the bars should be held liable for this. And while I agree that staff can always be better trained to not serve alcohol to people who are already intoxicated, I think the idea that the staff knew she was gonna drive is interesting. I think it's gonna be a bit of a challenged proven court. But regardless of how netizens feel about the establishments and their roles and all of this,
Starting point is 01:00:00 bars can be legally liable for a person who gets involved in a DUI crash if it was found that they were over served at that restaurant or that establishment. So even establishment that serves alcohol sees that someone is drunk, it said that they should stop serving them alcoholic drinks. They can call a cab for them, offer them food and water instead, and notify management. So there are options in place to help prevent drunk driving.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I think the hard part would just lie in the fact that the lawyers on Eric's side will need to prove that the staff knew that she was over served and knew that she was going to drive. Maybe it's easier to prove against the bars near the end of her bar hopping journey, I wonder, right? Different legal experts have weighed in and one of them said, even though this lawsuit makes sense, it's risky when it comes to accusing the restaurants. So yeah, the restaurants likely have the finances to pay up in the lawsuit, but providing evidence
Starting point is 01:00:51 that the restaurant's new shoe is drunk is going to be pretty difficult to prove. Not impossible, but difficult. Also, I don't know if Eric is doing this for money. It doesn't seem like he's doing it for money. Though sometimes I think lawsuits just kind of have a correlation with, oh, this person wants money, right? Eric's attorney's mentioned how it's a privilege for businesses to be able to serve alcohol.
Starting point is 01:01:13 It's not a right, and they need to do it responsibly. The lawyer states that he hopes this lawsuit will just give more establishments that, oh, okay, I really need to take this more seriously. And it will give citizens the courage to step in and stop someone from drinking and driving. I think the lawsuit against Jamie should be easier. But some say, she herself doesn't have much money. What would she even be able to pay Eric and Samantha's family?
Starting point is 01:01:40 And again, not that they want money, but this is just gonna be another thing where Jamie has let off without any real consequences. Even if she is sued and found guilty of a wrongful death, what money can she give? And again, I just want to mention, it doesn't seem like they're doing this for money. I just think it's only fair for them to receive money from the responsible parties. Erica to undergo two reconstructive surgeries. He has one to three more scheduled for his left eye operations. He had brain bleeds.
Starting point is 01:02:12 He was wheelchair bound for a while after being released from the hospital. He's lost 20 pounds, still feels severe pain from his injuries, and that's just the physical aspect. There's so much mental and emotional trauma to unpack. Meanwhile Ben, Samantha's brother, he's gonna need a skin graft at some point. He was unable to walk properly for quite a bit of time, used a cane to get around. He used to learn how to walk all over again. And as for Ben, he had the 17 year old.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I mean, basically he was okay, but the trauma of that night of seeing his loved ones just launched from this golf cart on the ground. I mean, that's gonna stay with him forever. He was only 17 when it happened. According to the CDC, 37 people a day, dying crashes, involving an alcohol and pear driver. 37 people a day.
Starting point is 01:03:02 If on average a family is consisting of four family members, that's almost 10 families gone in a day. If on average a family is consisting of four family members, that's almost 10 families gone in a day, wiped out. That's over a third of everyone who attended Samantha Narrow's wedding. Every single day. In one year, around 10,000 Americans, so not on a global scale, just in America, are killed by drunk drivers. So it's just something to think about. And we are also waiting to see how the trial plays out and what happens to Jamie. I mean, I just hope that this is another reminder, don't drink and drive. But other than not, try and end it on like a lighter note.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Folly Beach has this iconic boat called the Folly Boat. And visitors and residents they'll paint it with new messages. Sometimes it's by season, sometimes it's by month or by events, and the boat now reads Sam and Eric forever. And there is this beautiful drawing of a palm tree right next to it. Wow. And that is the end of today's case. Please let me know if you guys want me to stay tuned for any updates on this one.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I don't know. The whole thing is just so infuriating. Just if you listen to all of what Jamie said in prison, it's really hard to even try and feel like, oh, maybe people change. I'm also going to be listing Lisa Miller's Go Fun Me in the description. So please go check that out. Now I'll see you guys on Sunday for the mini-sode. Stay safe. Bye. Listing Lisa Miller's Go Fun Me in the description, so please go check that out. Now I'll see you guys on Sunday for the mini-suit. Stay safe. Bye.

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