Rotten Mango - #30- The Real Life "Dexter" Serial Killer (Case of Pedrinho Matador)

Episode Date: December 31, 2020

A serial killer who only kills other murderers. He has killed over 60 drug dealers, murderers, molesters, and fellow serial killers in some of the most brutal ways.  Fun Fact: He's a free man today....  Is he the real-life Dexter? Is this vigilante justice?  Or is he just as sick and twisted as all the other serial killers out there?  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Happy holidays! What? What? No? It's almost new year! It's holiday! It's new year! It's a holiday? It's a holiday!
Starting point is 00:00:43 I mean, yeah! It is a holiday! It's a holiday. I mean, yeah, it is a holiday. It is a holiday. When I think holidays, though, I think Thanksgiving on Christmas, I don't necessarily think New Year. New Year, I think lots of New Year's resolutions that will probably end before February. That's pretty much what I think of. January is the prime time. You don't understand.
Starting point is 00:01:00 January comes around. This bit's right here. Me, I will go buy four planners. I'm like, I got a lot of planning to do this year. And then, by the time December comes around, this bit's right here, me. I will go by four planners. I'm like, I got a lot of planning to do this year. And then, by the time December comes around, you'll never see me with the freaking planner. No, by the time February comes around, what's a planner? I don't have a planner, what are you talking about? So, um, welcome to this year's last podcast. 2020 has been a year. I don't want to be one of those people that goes on a tangent about it because it sucked It sucked for everyone in different varying degrees and it just overall was just a strange year But you know what this podcast has really helped me in 2020 because I don't know something about talking about these gruesome cases Was like an outlet for all of this pent-up stress that I had and I just it was fun
Starting point is 00:01:41 It was fun for kids That's what I was trying to say so thank you for spending your hump days with me. Maybe don't listen to it on Wednesdays, but if you are, you're one of my humpers. And I, I was gonna say I hump you, but that could get me arrested. So welcome to this week's episode. So this week's episode, I really wanted to do
Starting point is 00:01:59 the highly requested case. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna end 2020 with a case that everyone has been requesting for years now Like since I started my YouTube channel and that has been the New Delhi rape case of what happened on the bus now I knew about this case for years and I just could never Bring it in myself to just cover this case it was a lot it was intense and then there was also like the cultural aspects Like I could I felt like I couldn't just touch up on the case without doing deep
Starting point is 00:02:25 Dives into like why was this happening like what the heck and you know There's so many small things that also apply to that case and so that's what I was gonna do But then I was like you know what like literally tomorrow is New Year's Day and or New Year's Eve and I don't think I don't think I should do that to my brain. I think I should do something fun and fresh, something light, something funny. And then I started looking into this case, and I was like, oh my god, this motherfucker killed like over 100 people, and I'm over here like fun and fresh.
Starting point is 00:02:55 What? Okay, so today's case is about the real life dexter. This one has actually been requested really, really frequently as well, and I get it. I see it. It's such a wild, wild story. So in order to really deep dive into this, we need to know about Dexter. Dexter is a very, very famous TV show. Might be on the news. What a cool name though. Someone named the real life of Dexter. Isn't Dexter? The real life dexter, yeah. Yeah. isn't he supposed to be a cool villain?
Starting point is 00:03:26 Or a cool villain? Yeah, he's supposed to be like a, like a vigilante. He's like a Batman, but not as good. Okay, so how I see Batman is he's almost like your quintessential vigilante justice type dude. Like, he wears a cape, freaking superhero. He's rich, Lamborghini, whatever, right? But he also is so good to the point where like his weakness is that he's so good, that he's got morals. That's what all of the villains that go after Batman go after for the fact that he knows between right and wrong, right? Whereas I feel like with texture, I haven't really watched the show, but from what I can tell online, it seems like he falls into the more realistic villain category where it's like he's got a lot of flaws but somehow you still end up rooting for him so he's kind of like the Joker
Starting point is 00:04:08 but um so essentially this is how it goes okay so this show aired from 2006 to 2013 and it had a total of eight seasons now the first four seasons were like internationally acclaimed people freaking loved this show so much so that in 2013 the show ended but then in 2020 they released Hey, uh, this year sucked for y'all right? Well, here's some good news. We're gonna be filming a 10 episode limited series With Dexter. Oh, they're filming right now. Yeah, so I don't know when it's gonna come out But I mean that kind of shows you like the success and the impact that this show has had on the people who love it And so what is Dexter about so Dexter is about a guy by the name of Dexter Morgan
Starting point is 00:04:46 and he's a forensic technician specializing in bloodstained pattern analysis. That's a mouthful. So he works for the Miami Police Department. I don't think he is actually like a police officer. He just gets hired by them to do certain cases and he lives a double life. So obviously working for the Miami Police Department,
Starting point is 00:05:03 he realizes that there's a lot of people that just like fall through the cracks of the justice system. There's a lot of murderers who get away with it. There's a lot of like rapists who get away with it. So his double life is that Dexter Morgan himself is a serial killer that only hunts down other serial killers or murderers to kill them. So the story goes something like this, okay? Is it believable? Yeah, I don't know. But then after learning about the guy that it's like, people call him the real-life texture, I'm like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So he was orphaned at three years old. His mom was actually brutally murdered with a chainsaw by a bunch of like drug dealers and he didn't really find out about it until later because he was adopted by a Miami Police Department officer by the name of Harry Morgan. Now, Harry, this officer, realizes that the kid he's adopted, he knows his past, he knows that his mom was brutally murdered by drug dealers, you know, he knows all of that. He just kind of noticed that this dude was like, Dexter just had this bloodlust in him, like he just wanted to kill people.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And, you know, being a police officer, you can kind of see the signs, I guess. And so he started seeing that that apparently they went on hunting trips to try to satiate dexter's need to kill and then finally when he tells his dad hey uh dad I have an urge to kill. Harry apparently teaches him how to kill with a code which means killing only heinous criminals that get away with crimes. heinous criminals that get away with crimes. What a story. So then the whole, I guess, like, the eight seasons, I think he like ends up having a kid at one point and then he almost gets caught at one point and his sister ends up, like, in the police force as well. I mean, it's a shit show, but it sounds like a really, really good shit show.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I don't know why I don't watch this. It's so famous. It's so popular. It's so well-loved. Maybe we will start it. Maybe we'll start it tonight. Eight seasons. Eight seasons. Every time we see a show with a lot of seasons already done, we get so overwhelmed. And I think both of us are like low-key commitment, folks, because we're like, what? Eight? Like, you mean we gotta keep dating till we finish this series. Are you kidding? I don't think.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Okay, so today's story is based off of the real life Dexter. Now Dexter was not based off of him. Dexter was actually based off of a book loosely. And this guy's name is Pedro Rodriguez Filo. So Filo in Portuguese actually is kind of like a term that you would put for, like it's not a surname from what I can tell right So it's not his last name so his last name would be Rodriguez and he goes by Pedrino, Matador or killer PD or The Brazilian Dexter or the real Dexter or just Padrino
Starting point is 00:07:38 So we're gonna call him Padrino for the rest of today's podcast and let me tell you this takes place in Brazil and Boy is it a story? So I feel like I have to put a disclaimer, okay? Is the fact that a lot of this was told by Pedrino himself. Now when we've got a serial killer telling the story themselves, there's a lot of inconsistencies, there's a lot of, huh, to that actually happens, sir, or you just trying to make your balls look even bigger.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Like what's going on? And so I feel like this, this is a very unreliable narrator, but it made it as a wild story. So strappy. So how much of this is verified? So in the court system, he has, I believe, 71 murder convictions. Oh my goodness. So I guess it's like, but then also when you think about being in Brazil, they said that at the time, especially the Brazilian justice system was kind of all over the place. They didn't really have the greatest record keeping. So it could be way less or it could be exponentially more. And I'm like, those are two very different things, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like, can you give us a clear indication? Does it go up? Does it go down? We need to know. And so just Pedro Rodriguez, Pedro Eno had a very very interesting childhood. He was born in a farm on like the southeastern part of Brazil and the minute that he was born already shit was going down.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He came out of his mother's womb with his skull already bruised. How does that happen? You wonder right? It happened because his dad was really mad with his mom and just started kicking her in the belly. And he got bruised. Yeah and he got bruised as he was in her pregnant belly. And people actually looked at him instead of being like, hey, you are literally getting abused
Starting point is 00:09:11 before you're even born. We need to do something about this. They said, hey, you're lucky to be even born because you could have died. And then people are like, what? So we had seven younger siblings. They also were very lucky to be born because there was a lot of abuse by Pedrino senior to Pedrino and his younger siblings while they were in the womb.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It's kind of crazy. So they were poor, but they didn't have extreme poverty, like a lot of people in rural Brazil at the time. Say rural. Rural. I feel like we both have a problem with this word. Like the countryside of Brazil. That's what I'm going to say from now on.
Starting point is 00:09:46 The countryside. So, his dad worked as a night security guard at a local store and he was considered kind of like agreeable at work, I guess, unless, you know, of course, he was drinking on the job that day. So, that just kind of describes his work ethic, I guess. Now the mom, she was incredibly strict. She was a disciplinarian. She was really quick to punish the kids. I'm talking physically. I'm talking mentally. guess now the mom she was incredibly strict she was a disciplinarian she was
Starting point is 00:10:05 really quick to punish the kids I'm talking physically I'm talking mentally emotionally like she just was a bit of an abuser now she would always take all of her kids to church and if they even if they even miss spoke at church she would drag them home and beat them up okay so church was really really serious now his grandpa padrino's grandpa was pretty much the only person around to teach Pedrinos actual things. So his dad was, you know, he was drunk most of the time. He would beat him up.
Starting point is 00:10:32 His mom was so strict that he didn't feel like he could ask her questions, but his grandpa taught him how to swim, how to harvest, hunt, and just ultimately defend himself, you know, in Brazil at this time, in this specific area, you needed to know how to do these things to just live life, which is crazy, because like, I can't even keep like a cactus alive, and this boy is like eight, and he's learning how to harvest.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Like, wow. So he starts working at a chicken slaughterhouse at a really young age. So a lot of their kids had to work early to support the entire family, and that's why a lot of the times they would have a lot of kids, kids so that it was you know, they could get more resources now at the age of 13 years old by this time Pedrino was completely surrounded by violence. I mean his dad is violent His mom is like the object of the violence. There's violence all over the place and the area in Brazil He lived in it was a super violent area So it just was filled with violence.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Now at 13 years old, he said, that's the first time he wanted to kill someone at the young age of 13. Now what's interesting about Pedrino is that he doesn't have the other indicators of a lot of serial killers we talk about, such as animal cruelty, he doesn't have this inclination to be head cats, don't fuck with cats, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:43 And then he doesn't wet his bed, he doesn't seem to have intense sexual abuse at this point. Yeah, before he turns 13. Later on, it gets a little bit different, but we're gonna get into it. So at 13 years old, he's like, yeah, I really wanted to kill someone. So he gets into his fight with his older cousin.
Starting point is 00:12:00 So he had taken out his older cousin's horse without telling him. And the cousin was like, did you freaking take my horse? And he's like, yes, I took your horse. Like, I was just borrowing it. I'm not trying to steal your horse. And the older cousin beat him up in front of all of their extended family. Like, I'm talking, their immediate family, their cousin's cousin's cousin's like everyone
Starting point is 00:12:17 in the community was watching Petrino get beat up by his older cousin. And so Petrino gets up and he says, you know what? I'm going to kill you. And everyone laughed, they laughed. Because they saw him as like just a weak little kid. And so for weeks, for weeks he planned. He planned the murder of his older cousin, his own flesh and blood he planned it for weeks.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So they were working at a sugar press nearby. That's where his grandpa works and a sugar press. So you know those sugar canes? They're kind of running me off like bamboo sticks, right? And yeah, the sugar press, it's essentially like these two really intense wheels that are turning together and then you stick it in between the small little space between the wheel and it will squeeze out all of the juice of the sugar canes. Oh my god! Oh, you're the guy! He's like, oh yeah, sugar press. Oh, you know. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, sugar press. And then it hit him.
Starting point is 00:13:07 He's like, oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So he works at the meat grinder, you know, meat grinder. He's stuff a pig in there. Yeah, you could stuff a pig. And he would always call this cousin a pig. So it's just an easy way.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It was an extra meat than that. No. And so they're at the sugar press together and they were just, they were in charge of running the sugar cane through the sugar press. And that's when he pushes his older cousin into the sugar press. The cousin's entire arm up to the shoulder
Starting point is 00:13:40 was completely mangled. Oh my god. And now at this point, the man- Is it a mangled? Yeah, mangled. It's called mangled? Not mangled. Oh my god. And now at this point, the... Did you say mangled? Yeah, mangled. It's called mangled? Not mangled. Like rotten mango or a dog, mangled.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like mangled. It means like just pretty much obliterated. Like just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah, crushed like Play-Doh. Play-Doh. I got to script it, yeah. Okay. And so his entire arm is mangledld, and then the machine jammed, because you know, it's first sugar came.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like, you're not going to have that much space. So then, Pichrino, I'm not laughing, sorry. And so then, Pichrino, I mean, he just just like, okay, I got to go all in. Now I'm just going to try to push his head in there. So he's like trying to contort his head into there, but because the head was really, really round, right? And it was relatively big.
Starting point is 00:14:23 He had a big head. So the head wouldn't fit into the rollers. not only would it not fit, but the rollers actually started rolling in the opposite direction now, kind of pushing the head away from the rollers. So this is when Pedrino, instead of being like, you know what, I should have thought about this. Maybe this isn't the time to murder him, or maybe be like, maybe I shouldn't murder someone. He decides to go grab some nearby pruning shears and he starts stabbing his cousin. And he said that the goal of doing this was to cut him up enough to force him through the press.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Now, at this point, there's a lot of screaming. There's a lot of blood. There's a lot of screaming. So the workers here, the grandpa comes to the rescue, turns off the sugar press machine and Pedrino spent several nights in jail. Now, this... Several nights in jail. Now this- Several nights? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He was 13 at the time. Now this is where it gets really sad. So in this area of Brazil and Pedrino's family, he was like pivotal to his family's success. Like they needed every single person, all their 13-year-old working, or else they could have put food on the table. And so the family, depending on his source of income at the slaughterhouse, so the whole family collectively decided to drop the charges against Pedrino,
Starting point is 00:15:29 because it was a family member, you know? So if it was like a random stranger, like a friend, they definitely wouldn't have dropped the charges, but because it was like the family was like, hey, we can either press these charges, but then we all will not eat for like weeks, or we can drop it, and at least we can make sure no one dies of starvation. So that's what they did. So the police let him go and
Starting point is 00:15:48 they agreed with it because they were like okay well he is a minor and because you guys don't want to press charges fine he can go. So he the only thing that he got was a couple nights in jail and they made him clean blood and flesh off the sugar cane press which took him like four weeks to do it and then people asked about it they were like hey do you feel bad about it? Like, do you feel shitty? And he said, no, wait, it kind of gave me pleasure. Like, I feel like I've rited the injustice.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So what about the cousin's reaction and everybody else in the family? I think scared of him now? Yeah, everyone's getting scared of Pedrino now. I mean, I would like to say that they weren't so scared of him that they were like, oh god, we can't have him in the house You know, but they were like, wow, he had a really intense sense of justice ever since he was young now his sense of justice was not always right That's the part that kind of gets people Like I mean imagine your cousin beats you up and you're like, okay, full on murder
Starting point is 00:16:39 fucking murder Ted Bundy. Let's go Jeffrey Dahmer. They spit like what? fucking murder Ted Bundy, let's go, Jeffrey Dahmer, this bits, like what? It doesn't make sense. And so then later, his dad gets accused of stealing at work and this is like a huge blow to the family. So his dad was a night security guard at the local school, like I said, and he was accused of stealing food and stationary from this local school. So the dad's like, no, no, no, it wasn't me, it wasn't me, I'm the night time guard, and all of this stuff was taken during the daytime. It was the daytime guard, and apparently he had little tidbits of evidence that he could show that he wasn't the one that stole it.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I mean, I don't think it was like conclusive evidence. Like, look, here's the security cameras of me. I'm not doing anything, you know. I'm sure it was like, no, because at this point this prison came in and they saw that the food was still there, you get it. Like he had a little bit of evidence, but he was fired with no severance pay. I mean, he had this new reputation of being a thief, so he wasn't getting hired anywhere else, and the only reason that he got fired
Starting point is 00:17:30 was because they just didn't really care to look at the evidence. They also just took the daytime guards word for it. They were just like, oh, it wasn't you? Okay, let's fire the nighttime guard. So the family gets super stressed out. I mean, the mom, she was a cleaner and a laundra rest, and she was essentially the bread maker now, and Pedrino, he went into the jungle to kill monkeys. And he would kill these monkeys to sell them so that they could be turned into fine leather. It was just really hard financially for the family, like it was just really intense. At 14 years old, he believed that his dad was completely innocent of this crime and he was so angry that these people in power just like refused to listen to his dad's side of the
Starting point is 00:18:04 story and they even refused to take a look at the evidence. So mainly, there was two people in charge of firing his dad. There was a headmistress of the school, and the deputy mayor who had the power to hire and fire people who worked at the school. So at this point, they're like, what the fork, right? So he's like, I need to take this into my own hands. He had gone to these two people and told them, no, look at the evidence, look at the evidence, it wasn't my dad, and then we're just like little kid, go home. So he took this into my own hands. He had gone to these two people and told them, no, look at the evidence, look at the evidence, it wasn't my dad, and then we're just like little kid, go home. So he took
Starting point is 00:18:28 this into his own hands. He grabbed his grandpa's rifle, he grabbed amy-nation, he grabbed a machete, and a tent into a backpack, and then went camping into the mountains for 30 days. This is like really weird. I don't know if it was some eat prey love shit. I don't know if he was trying to find himself in the mountains, but he went hunting in the mountains and he said that he only hunted for what was necessary to survive. And he was cautious not to exploit the woods or mistreat wildlife. Now this is where people are also confused because they're like, didn't you just fucking hunt some monkeys down? I'm so confused. So, I mean, I guess again, maybe it's like, oh, well, my family comes first above everything,
Starting point is 00:19:02 but if I don't have to, I'm not gonna do it, right? I think that's kind of, you know, his motto, but I'm not really sure where he was going with that. So he returned from the woods after 30 days with a plan, and I'm sure desperately in need of a shower, okay? So he comes back from the woods, and he waits outside the city hall for the deputy mayor to arrive,
Starting point is 00:19:19 and they arrive, they get out of their car, and he just shoots him twice, and then runs away. And he said that he felt really good about it, but he was still super mad. So one month later, he walks into that school and he waits in the storage room. Now, this is where the daytime guard starts his shift is in the storage room. So he points the rifle at him right when he walks in the door. And he had he didn't get in trouble for the shooting. No, he just like ran away.
Starting point is 00:19:42 No one caught him. I guess it's a different time. Yeah, yeah. And so they also like put a chair in the middle of the room and also you have to remember that the deputy mayor probably had a lot of enemies. So I think it took some time to boil down like, oh which one hated him the most, right? And you probably wouldn't think that it was a security guard son. You'd probably think maybe it's like a gang member, you know. And so he pointed the rifle at him. It made him sit in the chair that was just in the middle of the room, made him look
Starting point is 00:20:10 petrino in the eyes. He said, look at me, daytime guard. And he said, did you see what you did? It destroyed my family. My brothers are starving because of you. Is it fair that you did this? And the guard realized who this kid is. Oh shit, this is the son of the nighttime guard.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And I mean, I think at this point, I kind of think that maybe he was the one that stole. But I also think it was a very interesting situation where, you know, he stole food. He still supplies, like little supplies here and there, but mainly food. So maybe he just needed to feed his family, but he started crying and he was apologizing he's like begging for his life and Pedrino shoots him twice, covers his body with furniture and boxes and then just like sets the whole pile on fire and then he runs away. Now at this point, I mean at this point he's going to get caught so he runs and takes place at his godmother's house so he starts living with his godmother and that's when he meets a woman by the name of booty. So that was her nickname. I don't know her real name, but her nickname is Booty.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And she was the widow of a really really well-known drug trafficker. So she was running the shit show, okay? So the drug trafficker dies and she's like, you know what? Call me booty bitch. And I'm gonna make you all my booty bitches, okay? So she was running the show and she was a gangster. She would use her beauty and her influence to attract a lot of young people to her criminal Organization and then just kind of like keep them wrapped around her fingers She would just be like, oh, I need you to go kill this person for me. He he he thanks Lavia if only it were that easy. I'm kidding And so she wouldn't fight Pedrino to live in her home So they started living together at one point and they started having sex now here's the crazy thing
Starting point is 00:21:43 Pedrino was only 14 years old at this time. So this is where I said, you know, he wasn't sexually abused in the house from what I can tell. Like his parents weren't sexually abusive. There wasn't like an uncle that molested him. But I mean, I consider this really intense sexual abuse, right? So he was having sex with her when.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Oh, old is she, do you know? Oh God, I think like in her 20s or 30s, yeah. So she was definitely above the age of 18 Um, and he was only 14 and he started trafing him drugs for her now He has absolutely no drug experience. He has no at no experience on how to sell drugs But because he was dating booty at the time he got this like higher up position in the network And that made people pissed that made the other drug traffickers who were working under booty pissed because they were like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Like I've been doing this shit for three years. I've been running the game for you. You know, I've been doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now you just wanna say that this guy, this little 14 year old boy that you're having sex with is my boss. Like you wanna say that I gotta listen to him. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So they were really jealous. That caused a lot of tensions within that little crime syndicate, right? Mm-hmm. Now, he was an easy target. So a lot of people were threatened him. There was a drug trafficker's girlfriend who came up to him in the middle of the night and was like, watch your back.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Mm-hmm. And then just like walked away into the darkness. Like can you imagine just like, watch your back? And then just like scatters off into the woods. I'd be like, what the fuck? I would cry. All of his drug trafficker are people, like the people that worked in the same gang. Right, I'm gonna call them a gang, right?
Starting point is 00:23:14 They asked him to go to a lagoon. Now these are not rival gang members. They're the same gang. So technically maybe he was thinking like, oh they're trying to start a friendship now because they know that like I'm credible now. They know that I'm good at moving drugs now, blah, blah, blah. So he's like, okay, yeah, it sounds fun. So they were like, yeah, we're gonna go swim, we're gonna spook some weed together, it's gonna be a great time. So he starts walking with them, and as they're walking downhill to the lagoon, he starts noticing that all of them are arms and acting really strange.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So that's when he whips out his gun immediately, orders them to drop their weapons and get on the ground, but they're all like, I don't think so. So they started running up the hill, and he starts shooting at them, just opening fire, blindly shooting at them. He killed two and severely injured one of them. So that was when he kinda got a little bit of respect, a little bit of fear, but not a lot. Like, you know, a lot of other traffickers were still like, okay, like fine, you killed two people, but I've killed like so many people, dude, and I'm not scared of you.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So he still was like in this really odd place, and it actually made it worse for him because a lot of those traffickers' friends now wanted revenge. You know? And so he only had these two friends inside the gang that he trusted, and this is how sad it is. Like he's 14, and one of these kids always had to stand watch while the other two slept
Starting point is 00:24:29 Wait, so there's three of them. Yeah, so they're like best buds and One of them always had to keep watch now like imagine what that does to you when you're like 14 and you're still developing your frontal lobe And shit, I mean, I think you're still developing your frontal lobe till you're like 25 and then I think it stops and then you just are who you are I think So you have stopped Yeah, we'll do soon all Oh man And so together they started committing a bunch of crimes now They decided to make a deal with China not to be confused with the country China is a gang member
Starting point is 00:25:03 Okay, so they were like hey, I know this guy by the name of China now We're gonna go meet up with him and we're gonna start some shit like we're gonna we're gonna deal some drugs together We're gonna we're gonna join hands with China and it's gonna be like this beautiful thing that we've created, right? And so yeah, China is Chinese No, it's like I've never met a Chinese person named China. I know, but maybe that's their nickname. No, it's their nickname. Oh, maybe they are.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Right, I'm gonna just call you a little bit. I'm just gonna call you Lil' Krabiian Bayex. Now, immediately upon their first meeting, Pedro Hades said he's like China sucks. I think China's a bully and China's cheap Can you not open your eyes? Okay, so for those of you guys who don't watch our YouTube channels my fiance is Chinese and I am Korean He's just looking at me because I always make fun of him for being a little a little frugal
Starting point is 00:26:01 I never use the word she responsible. Yeah, a financially responsible is what he says. I say frugal. I never use the word cheese. Responsible. Yeah, a financially responsible is what he says. I say frugal. Teach their own. And so, yeah, Pedrino is like this dudes a bully and he's cheap so we're not going to hang out with him. We're not going to do a deal with him. So he convinces his friends that they're going to steal his drugs instead. So they stole China's drugs and his guns and even shot one of his men killing them but also shot in injured China and China's brother as they were getting away.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So they're like getting all their guns, getting all their drugs and then they're running away shooting at them so that they can't shoot at them, right? And it's just, I mean, they were making some enemies. Now these were not the only enemies that really wanted to kill them. There was something called the death squad. So death squad in Brazil consisted of off-duty police officers and state security forces. Now they would be off the clock. So imagine like the FBI off the clock, they're like, hey, I'm going to join something called the death squad. And they would come together to go into the streets, the slums of Brazil, as they call it. That's what they called it, right? And they would kill a bunch of drug dealers, and they would get away with it,
Starting point is 00:27:05 because the government would just give them covert approval. They'd be like, you did what? You killed how many drug dealers today? Up top, don't act like you know me, bye. Download. Download. And they would never get any consequences for this. So now, Padrina was like their new with target.
Starting point is 00:27:19 They're like, we gotta kill this dude. I mean, he's so young, he's like trafficking drugs, he's killing drug dealers. We gotta kill him. I know that, he's so young, he's like, trafficking drugs, he's killing drug dealers, we gotta kill him! I know that you probably didn't sleep well during 2020, and maybe, maybe it's the politics, maybe it's the pandemic, whatever it may be! Have you ever thought it's your mattress? I feel like mattresses are one of those things that are just so overlooked in life, like you care about your sheets, you care about your little pillows. But did you ever really think about your mattress like that?
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Starting point is 00:29:44 And this was gonna solidify her career being the gang leader. She was like, this is gonna put me on the map. Now obviously the rival gangs did not like this. They were like, no, fuck this. We're gonna tip off the police and we're gonna make sure that this drug deal never goes down. So during this drug deal booty was there, a bunch of drug traffickers were there. They were like, I don't know, I just imagine them sitting at like a really long table in suits but I feel like that's not how it happened I watch way too many movies and so they were just like sitting around doing this drug deal and all of a sudden the police come
Starting point is 00:30:12 and ambush the entire place and booty was ultimately killed during this ambush the police had killed her during it now Padrina who was 16 years old at the time he's seriously injured. Somehow, he manages to escape, he doesn't get murdered, he doesn't get arrested, and he starts finding a lot of extended family members to stay with. He's like, Uncle, I know that I'm like shot, but can I please stay with you? Now, he was accepted into a one particular Uncle's house, and this is where he started joining. They called it a religion. A lot of people in the community saw them as like witches.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like it was more witchcraft. And then there was a group of people who just kind of like saw them in like a cult. And in order for him to officially join this religion, which he was really excited about because he was like, you know, these are the people who just helped me get back to health. They nourished me back to health
Starting point is 00:31:01 after I got seriously injured. So he really owed them a lot. So he's like, you know what family? Yes, I'm down for that witchcraft. Sign me up, bits. And they're like, okay, well, there's like really no sign up sheet. Like you can't just like sign your name. We've actually got to take you into the forest. So they bring them into the forest. And now that I'm like saying that out loud, I'm like, I think I'm going to go with the word cult because that just sounds really culty, okay? And so they bring them into the forest. And they give them a cat, cute cat, and they're like, kill the cat. He's
Starting point is 00:31:29 like, what? So what he had to do is he had to kill the cat, drink all of the blood from the cat, and then take out the intestines, disembowel the cat, and then smear it all over his body. There's the cat. There's the cat. Don't fuck with the cats. And this also sounds like something that you would get done at like a Beverly Hills facialist because his body. There's the cat. There's the cat. Don't fuck with cats. And this also sounds like something that you would get done at like a Beverly Hills facialist because it's just what? And my fiance is like, you know, I'm crazy. But there's the thing. Did you know that's, it's called a vampire facial. They take your own blood and then they smear it all over your face. And then they're like, that'll be $2,000. And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 but that's my blood. You took my blood. Beant, so you didn't even, what did you supply here? That's my supply. Give me back. Yeah, it's barely, it really works though. There's like plasma. Well, I'm sure it's way more than just taking your blood and then putting it on your face. I think they like, they put it in a machine that sucks out
Starting point is 00:32:22 the plasma. And then I think they like poke your face with little holes and then they put the plasma back in your face. Plasma just sounds like a TV to me. Like a plasma TV, I don't know. So he would smear the intestines of the cat all over him. Now the cat has essentially an empty body, right? The cat's dead.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And he decides to fill the cat with seeds. That was part of the ritual. Then they would bury the cat. Now the belief decides to fill the cat with seed so that was part of the ritual then they would bury the cat. Now the belief was that this made him invincible this would make him like a force to be reckoned with that nobody could hurt him nobody could kill him he could never be touched by the death squad he could never be injured by the police again and he firmly believed it so that next week after they buried the cat, after he joined this witchcraft religion cult, I don't know what have you, he went back to where the cat was buried, he dug it up, took out the seeds that were inside of the cat, and now the seeds, I don't know what kind of seeds
Starting point is 00:33:13 they were, but they had hardened over time in the past week. And so they were almost like a bead like material. So this is when he brings all the beads to his uncle of the from inside the cat that he murdered. And he is like, listen, uncle, I'm going to need you to turn this into something for me. And the uncle says, okay, I'm going to turn it into this beautiful, beaded necklace. He presents him with the beaded necklace. And he says, if you ever take it off, you will not have these powers anymore. And so, I mean, I saw a lot of pictures of him and he, I don't know if it was that specific necklace,
Starting point is 00:33:43 but it was like one necklace that he would constantly wear it and it was a beat of necklace So baby he was wearing cat seed all over him, okay? And so this is when he started doing like random acts of kindness So prior to all of this all of it was like drug dealing all of it was killing other drug rivals gang member rivals And it was all of that jazz but now he he took it upon himself and he was like, you know what? Fuck this shit. Not only am I going to kill drug dealers, but I'm going to give back to the people.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm going to be a charitable person. So he was really well known in the area for stealing food trucks, driving it into the slums. Like that's what they called it. The slums like the poor areas and just would give people free food that was in the food truck. He would just like drive it in there and then just like dip and people would go in get some food for their kids And then they would leave and then the police would find the truck later He would also do things where he would kill men who harmed women So if you raped a woman raped a child you killed a child you beat your wife or your girlfriend
Starting point is 00:34:40 He would kill you. Is he trying to be like Robin Hood or something? It seems like it it seems like he's trying to be like the Robin Hood of Brazil. And it kind of works. Do people know it's all come from this guy? Yeah, so like the local towns, they knew, and it seems like they liked him. There was really no reports where people were like, tournament, there's a madman on the loose.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like if you'd normally had a lot of dudes that were ending up just like dead, you'd be like, oh my god, this town's got a serial killer. We need more police, we need more this, we need to do something, we need to catch him. But it seems like everyone was just like, if you are scared of him, probably means you're hiding something. Like that was kind of what, it's almost like the whole concept of like the NSA.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Everyone's like, well, I've got nothing to hide, you know, but it's just like, but they still can't just like listen to you when they, you don't have, you know, but it's just like, but but they still can't just like listen to you and they you don't have you know You think you're listening to you. Yeah, so it's kind of like the same situation of like we can't just like kill them, right? But a little different. Yeah, but then everyone in the community is like well if you're scared of Pedro means you did something So it seemed like most law-abiding citizens were not scared of him at all in the slightest So he's the NSA, yeah. Yes, so he's the NSA of Brazil. These analogies today.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm just rolling with it. And so he would also do this thing where he would go to local shops. And if he even had an inclination, he didn't even need solid evidence. Because I mean, Pedro, Padrino, he's not, he's not the court of law, you know? So if he even felt like the vibes were off in your shop and he felt like you were conning your customers, he'd murder you. You'd be dead.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And his favorite way of doing it was like stopping you or like shooting you. So he would just be like, oh, okay, like you seem like a shady-ass mother-forker and he would just kill you. It was, it's just weird. And the police did nothing. He just outed it about doing all these. Yes, so in the US, I believe the statistic is somewhere around 30 to 40% of all murders are solved. It's pretty low, but in Brazil it's like less than 8%. So it's just, I think there's a lot of police corruption there.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I mean, there is here too. These days, you know, I can't even say anything because everyone's like look at your own country bits And I'm like yeah, yeah, we do suck So they they have a lot of police corruption. They also don't have a lot of um like police oversight They don't really have as many police and numbers in terms of population and there's definitely not a lot of police in these types of areas So it's just it was just a shitty situation. So none of these murders were really solved I mean the police kind of knew is Pichino, but it didn't seem like they were like oh my god So it's just it was just a shitty situation. So none of these murders were really solved I mean the police kind of knew his petrino, but it didn't seem like they were like oh my god
Starting point is 00:37:08 We got to get him right now and so at this point he starts also killing people who were cruel to animals Which is ironic because the whole monkey is saying and the cat ritual that we just talked about listen I'm not the one that makes the rules here So he was telling the story. He stories that I hate people who torture animals or kill animals? Yes, and the way that he said that he would punish these humans who torture animals is to inflict the same upon them. So like I said in like a mukbang or a YouTube video
Starting point is 00:37:34 we recently did, there was a Japanese kid who would line up frogs and would write his bicycle over them. So he would go and find that kid and write his bicycle over them. Like he would inflict the same pain that they inflicted onto the animal as some sort of like sick twisted, but yet poetic punishment. Yeah, so it's very fascinating. Now like I said, I don't write the rules, but like we really got to look into that cat disemboweling thing. Pedre now, this is a big sense. Where is the consistency, right? So he also starts dealing drugs, but he doesn't do it in the way that he did when he was
Starting point is 00:38:07 dating booty. What he would do now is he really only just works for himself. He wasn't trafficking drugs. He would steal drugs from bad drug dealers, and then he would sell those drugs to good drug dealers, and then he would make a profit in the middle. So he was essentially dealing drugs, stealing drugs, selling drugs, doing all of that. So around this time he falls in love with a woman by the name of Maria Olympia, which is such a beautiful name, and she almost soon immediately became pregnant with his
Starting point is 00:38:34 child, so they moved into this shack together, and that's how he described it. He said it was in a home, it's a shack. And so they move into this shack and he's like, listen, I know things are tough around here, but I'm going to go make some more money, you know, stealing drugs, selling drugs, but also at the same time he continued with his vigilante justice. He said it's legally wrong, but it's morally just and he just started killing so many people. It was said that during this time he killed about a person a day. Now, I don't know how much of this is real. I don't know how much of this can be verified because in terms of Brazilian law, it's only been verified that he has killed 71 people and I don't say
Starting point is 00:39:09 only, but he claims it was well above 100. So he was killing a lot of different people. Now Maria was finally seven months pregnant and he was getting really excited. He was kind of like debating like how to protect this kid. He even hired guards to watch his, yeah, his baby mama and his baby while he would go out and kill people. And so he comes home one day and he sees that the guards are dead outside. So he's like what the fork. So he busts through the door and he finds Maria murdered on the ground. Now it's a legend that her daughter or her kid was taken out of the womb and then murdered. And the killer used Maria's blood right on the walls we will get you all over the walls.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So at this point, Pedrino, he's traumatized, he's depressed, he's shook, and he's sitting there thinking to himself, who the hell hates me this much, that they would come here and murder my baby mother, but also my unborn child. And he realizes literally everyone hates him that much. Literally he had killed so many people at this point that every single Person almost has a vendetta against him so he spends the next over a year torturing people to try to figure out who sent Someone to kill his wife Nothing came out of this literally everyone was like, I don't know what you're talking about and they would just get tortured for no reason because he was like
Starting point is 00:40:22 You're lying anyway torture them. So this is the part where it's like maybe he's not that man, like he seems like really messed up, right? He would just torture people who he thinks has an idea. Yeah. And he was just really ruthless. So at out of complete chance one day he goes to a bar and the bartender is like, wait, are you a pagerino? And he's like, yeah, I'm pagerino, what's up? And she's like, oh, well, there was this woman from a place called Parava Valley, and she was driving this Jeep, and she was asking everyone for a petrino. And maybe that's you.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So he was able to get in contact with this woman who had recently left the bar looking for him, and he found out that it was the ex-wife of China. Do you remember that gangster? That he had stolen the boy? Yeah, China. The cheap bully. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And so he meets up with China's ex-wife and she says, listen, I need to show you all of these scars. She like lifts up her shirt and like shows her legs and there's just bruising scars all over her body. And she says that she ran away from China because he was obviously incredibly abusive. And she felt like her soul couldn't rest at peace until she told him that it was China who ordered the hit you know being a woman A pregnant woman gets murdered like you just can't sit with that easily
Starting point is 00:41:33 I mean being anyone but especially a woman and you know that your husband had a doing and a pregnant woman getting murdered Like what kind of life is that and so she said I just felt like I had to tell you and Pedrina was just so upset Pedrino was just so upset and honestly he was just so upset that he didn't think of China quicker. He was like I should have known it was him and so the word around town was that China's brother who is also a very notorious gangster. He was having a wedding in town recently so he's like okay I'm gonna gather all of my friends so Pedrino gathers his friends and he says here's the order. We go in there and we shoot every single man in attendance. Do not shoot or harm any women or children and if you do, you have to deal with me. So he's really big into like
Starting point is 00:42:13 them. No women or children should be harmed, type of thing, right? Which like I can kind of agree with, but then I can't. Yeah, it's just a vulnerable, right? Yeah, it's just a vulnerable. So he goes in there and he says, if you shoot any woman or children, you have to deal with me. Very Batman of him. So they sneak into the reception hall and they burst through the door. And they're like, all the women and children get upstairs now.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So they're like scurrying up the stairs and Pedrino. He immediately shoots China, kills China, China's dead on the ground. Then he shoots seven other men. They both, they all die, all seven men die. And he wounds 16 more men. Now, imagine the blood bath. Okay, you've got at least what? I'm like not that quick at math.
Starting point is 00:42:55 23 men laying on the ground, bloodied up, right? Bullets going everywhere. The friends and Pedrino, they walk through the bodies, just covered in blood, they step over the bodies, make their way to the bar and they all order a drink, and just drink their drink, overlooking the sea of blood that they've just left behind. Meanwhile, women and children are screaming upstairs! But he's like, you know, don't harm the women and children. So it was just a weird, weird, complex thing, right? So the news of this had spread like wildfire because people are like, oh my god, a notorious gangster, his wedding was shot up, holy
Starting point is 00:43:28 shit, seven people died, what the heck? And his new nickname was Pedrino Matador. So the English translation, so Pedro was as common of a name, I think, as like Peter here in the US, but Pedrino was almost like a cute way of saying Peter, so like, Pee-Dee, like almost like a he he he, right? And so they called him Killer Pee-Dee. So, Pedrino, Matador, so we're gonna call him Pedrino, right? And there was a lot of divided opinions about him, some people were just terrified of him, some people liked the fact that he had a reputation for protecting the vulnerable, but overall what I do know for a thousand percent is true is that he really loved the fame after this. Like he was in love with the
Starting point is 00:44:05 fame. He came for the vigilante justice but he stayed for the fame, okay. So he starts dating two twin sisters. He starts a polyamorous relationship with two twin sisters and I don't know how to feel about that so I'm just gonna breathe through that one. And he gets a bunch of tattoos on his body. So the first one that he got was a really aggressive one that he's kind of known for. And it's just says on one of his arms, I kill for pleasure. And then on his other arm, it said, Mervia's name, and it said,
Starting point is 00:44:32 I can kill for love too. So kind of deep, but also kind of really scary. Now, like I said, he started kind of doing some rituals. He was killing every single day allegedly, and he starts doing these rituals where he would like stick his finger in the blood of the victim and then just like take a lick in like he would drink some of the blood of the victims. And he claims he did this for a brief amount of time because it would make him stronger.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Now I'm pretty sure that he stopped doing this once he started killing in prison because um you like prison in Brazil at the time it was just running rampant with HIV so I don't think he was trying to like suck on nobody's blood right. So Brazilian law enforcement at this point after the wedding they're like really trying to find him no longer is he the dude just stealing food trucks and killing a bunch of rapists like he is going around doing mass murders at like freaking weddings you know where there are women and children around like what are you doing. So a lot of his trusted friends were killed by the police and he was growing more and more paranoid like he was so paranoid he didn't trust anybody he would he constantly
Starting point is 00:45:29 felt like the police were just like right over his shoulder and he just was not really in a happy place. So one day he walks into a bar and this bar was where his twin girlfriends both of his girlfriends their twins their dad was working there as like a bar tender. And he didn't know this. Pedrino did not know this, but the dad of his girlfriends had called the police. So the police sounds like it's not going to end well. Yeah. The police stormed the bar and Pedrino got shot. He woke up, chained to a hospital bed. He had spent about 25 days recovering in the hospital, fully changed and fully
Starting point is 00:46:02 under supervision the whole time. So then he was sent to prison. Now at prison, he was given an option. They said, listen, we know who you are. We know what you've done. Do you want to go into productive or protective custody? Because like what you've done is pretty insane. You've killed so many family members of so many inmates. You've killed so many gang members of so many inmates who are affiliated with that gang. Like we know that you're going to get forced up in prison, dude. Like we're inmates. You've killed so many gang members of so many inmates who are affiliated with that gang. Like we know that you're going to get forced up in prison, dude. Like we're giving you the option. Do you want to go into isolation? Or do you want to go to general
Starting point is 00:46:32 population where all the sons and the brothers and the friends of all of your victims are? And he said, yeah, Jen pop, send me to Jen pop. I want to go with everyone. It's called Jen pop. Yeah, they call it Gen Pop. And now his only problem was not the fact that he was about to be in general population, Gen Pop with all of his victims' friends and family, but it was the fact that he looked at the police and he said, by the way, why are you guys only charging me with 18 homicides because I've killed more than 100 men? And they're like, what? And he's like, yeah, I feel like you guys should charge me with more.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And they were like, but this is all the evidence we have. And he was like, what? And he's like, yeah, I feel like you guys should charge me with more. And they were like, but this is all the evidence we have. And he was like, that's really upsetting. Like, I'm just really upset by that. You know, I wish you could have charged me with a bigger number. That was more accurate to what I believe should be charged with. Whatever. Like, what? So what's his deal?
Starting point is 00:47:19 He's just really tough. He was fearless. I guess so. He's just like, whatever. Let, seems like it. Fearless. I guess so. He's just like, whatever. Let me just get charged. So technically, he was actually convicted of only 14 murders once the trial was done. And his sentence was 126 years in prison. So he was like, I'm going to be in prison for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Fuck it. So he gets transferred to a different jail at this point because he was waiting his trial and then after trial, he was sent into like a higher security jail. So when he's going through this transfer they put him into the back of a police car with a serial rapist. Do you remember what I said about how he feels about rapist? And they said that in the back of the police van by the time that they approached the prison, they opened up the back and only one of them was alive. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Only Petr them was alive. Oh my god. Only Petrino was alive. Now, the prison was really bad. The new prison that it was going into. Now, before we get into that, you know, I do have to say something. I've got some 2021 goals. My number one goal is to stop buying those 50,000 planners I was just talking about. But then also, a very realistic goal that I have is to just eat more home cooked meals,
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Starting point is 00:50:11 So that's hellowfresh.com slash rotin10 and use code rotin10 to get those 10 free meals with free shipping. So Brazilian prison was really bad. So at the time, they said that if you were to live 15 years in prison without dying of disease or murder, you were a successful inmate. Like you had beat the system by surviving 15 years. So Dexter is done. No. Dexter is going to happen. Most a lot of his murders happen in prison. What? Yeah. Dexter's just getting started. That was like drug trafficking, you know, that was just staying alive This is Dexter and people were crammed into cells in Brazil where there wasn't even enough space for people to lay down
Starting point is 00:50:52 Like they didn't get a mattress suddenly America seems like a luxury like they didn't get a mattress Okay, it was just like a wooden cell with like concrete floors and bars and it was just a lot There were a lot of statistic officers who were really easily bribe to break the rules They actually often gave internal keys to a lot. There were a lot of sadistic officers who were really easily bribed to break the rules. They actually often gave internal keys to a lot of gang members. So that they would control all of the cell doors, but they couldn't get outside. So the guards would just be in charge of making sure no prisoner escapes, but these gang leaders could go into anyone's cell at any moment in time and just beat the shit out of them if not murder them. So it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Brazilian prisons are actually some of the harshest in the world. That's what they're known for. Along with Russian prisons, they seem to be really intense. And these are just like the legal prisons. I'm sure there's a lot of prisons in the world that we don't know about or that are just very vague and don't really like, I don't know, pay taxes. You get it. There's no like LLC for them. And in this particular ranking of prisons, ADX Florence Supermax in Colorado, the United States most Supermax prison, the Unibombs there, freaking El Chapo's there right now. This was ranked number six on the harshest prison conditions in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And this Brazilian prison, he didn't go to this one, but for one, for example, in the same area, it was called Karan Dero Penitentiary and it was ranked number one in the world What does that mean like like harshness the worst place to be an inmate like miserable murder rates are high It was said that in this Brazilian prison that they didn't give you an assesia when they gave you surgery Because they don't want to waste the money on it So they would just literally you'd be awake and they would just cut you open if you needed surgery And they'd be like well, it's fine. You're would just literally, you'd be awake and they would just cut you open if you needed surgery. And they'd be like, well, it's fine, you're in inmate.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Nobody cares about you. And everyone's like, what? So this? Yeah. Yeah. Medical torture. Yeah. I mean, it's so insane because if you heard this happening
Starting point is 00:52:37 at ADX Florence, even if it was someone like the Unibomber, you would have protests. Like, it would be a shit show, right? But they were just doing that. Now, in 1992, however, you would have protests, like you would be a shit show, right? But they were just doing that. Now in 1992, however, there were massive protests, though, because there was a massacre, and this really showed the Brazilian community just how bad the prison was.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So there was a massacre in 1992 that left 111 prisoners dead. It was considered Brazil's like main human rights violation that the whole world knew about. Who was it? It was a prison revolt happened. So two groups got into a fight over football in the prison, right? And the fight escalated to a prison riot that lasted three hours. Now at this point, the prisoners, they started attacking each other. Because when it's a shit show, when it's chaos, they were just like,
Starting point is 00:53:13 you know what, I've been meaning to kill this person. And now I can get away with it because no one's watching me. So I could just say, I don't know who killed that person. And so there was only 15 guards for 2069 prisoners at the time. So I was like, I just say, I don't know who killed that person. And so there was only 15 guards for 2069 prisoners at the time. So obviously the guards were overpowered in like a snap of a finger. So the guards called the local military police who came in, guns blazing, stripped the prisoners
Starting point is 00:53:39 of their clothing, stuck them into the cells and shot them. Some prisoners were even killed by police dogs This left 111 11 prisoners dead 37 prisoners wounded there were 515 bullets found in prisoners whether they were wounded or you know dead gunshot wounds were mainly found in the face head throat Chest those are like you're trying to kill someone. It's not you you know, hey, stop doing this, I'm gonna shoot you. So it's, they're mostly killed by the military? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And hands among the dead were found in defensive positions. So it didn't look like these prisoners were trying to kill the military. But also, no police officer or guards were harmed. During this massacre, and the crazy thing is a lot of the people were waiting trials, so none of them had been convicted yet. So a lot of the injured are dead, haven't been tried yet, but now they're dead. So this was, you know, Brazil's like really big human rights
Starting point is 00:54:36 violation that everyone was talking about at the time. The prison eventually was demolished in 2002, which is like still 10 years after the massacre. They just kept it up and running. And so that's when he goes into a Brazilian person, which is very similar to that one. They had a lot of human rights violations. It seems like a lot of people were just getting murdered in there. And so he decided that he was going to kill people in prison.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Now you're probably wondering, why would you do that? Right? Why don't you just try to live your life out in prison and just chill? You don't have to do all of this anymore. You already arrested, right? And he said that he felt like he didn't want to live next to people who he deemed were unworthy of life, such as rapists, pedophiles, or people who murdered women or children. They were unworthy of life and how dare they share a cell with him. So he went into like a weird protecting
Starting point is 00:55:27 but also a murderous role. So let's quickly talk about the prison hierarchy because this is really important to know the structure of things. So this is from what I could find on the internet of people who have actually been to prison or actual corrections officers, right? Because I wanted to take their words for it. They've already been in that environment. And so at the top of the list, at the top of the food chain, the coolest people, everyone respects these people are serial killers. Yeah, cop killers. I mean, that's kind of obvious, I guess.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I mean, not saying like, oh cool, like just go kill everyone, right? But I'm saying like, I can see why they're at the top, right? Because cops are at the bottom. If you're a cop that gets caught for something and you go to prison, oh God, you're at the bottom of that food chain. It may hate you.
Starting point is 00:56:10 It may hate cops. So serial killer is cool, consider. Unless, unless you are a serial killer that killed children, like a Jeffrey Dahmer. Okay. Then you're like a pedophile and people. They don't care about the reasons? No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:24 So serial killers, I feel like what I could read online it seems like people kind of respect them because of how sick and twisted they are and they just don't want to fuck with them but they're not necessarily trying to be buddy buddy with them so you have to be a serial killer a cop cop a cop killer successful bank robbers so like that's your life like you went around robbing banks and then you had like a Yeah, I was like, you had like some good ones, you know, and then you got caught then you're like cool, right? mob king pins So these days the mobs and the mafia aren't as strong but back in the day when they were they were at like the top of the food chain
Starting point is 00:56:59 And nowadays they're kind of at the top, but more so it's gang leaders now why gang leaders? Nowadays, they're kind of at the top, but more so, it's gang leaders. Now, why gang leaders? There's a saying called cream always rises to the top. So if you are intelligent on the outside world, such as, you know, to successfully rob a couple of banks, you have to have some sort of knowledge on how people work, on how things work. If you're a gang leader, whether, I mean, some people might disagree, but you're knowledgeable about people.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You know what makes people tick. You know how to control people manipulate people how to run things And so these people are obviously going to be at the top of the food chain because they know how to run a network So these days they said if you're at the top of a gang, you're immediately like the top of the prison You know, there's something called a pod king So every prison pod has like a king So there were a lot of higher-ups or leaders of games, that existed on the outside and when you go on the inside you're at the top of the food chain such as the crypts, the bloods, the black gorilla family, Latin kings, and MS-13. Now here's the crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Well, so these these game members go to the top when they were arrested. Yeah, I mean as long as they were like near the top of the gang on the outside immediately when they go on the inside They're like treated like kings and so there were actually gangs that primarily operate from inside prisons So that's like the Mexican mafia the Aryan brotherhood and the United Blood Nations They mainly operate from inside the prison walls like that's their HQ. That's their headquarters prison Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of crazy So most established gang prisons have alliances with free world gangs. That's what they call it, gangs on the outside.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Because that's how you wield power. If you say, hey, if you fuck with me, I'm gonna get my gang member to go kill your entire family. So don't fuck with me. So that's kind of how they ran things. They also ran things by dealing drugs on the outside world and the money would be sent to them on the inside world. So in prison, you can't really have money inside prison right so what they would do is they would get money sent into their
Starting point is 00:58:50 Count which now they can use to buy ramen noodles or hot buns or hotcakes I think something I like cinnamon so ramen noodle is the real currency it really is the real currency Yes, and, oh my god. So there was a documentary done about cops who went undercover in prison. And they said there was a guy who became a target of a gang inside that prison because he bought a lot of hot cakes because he really likes them. He wants to eat them, right? But it's like walking around with a brick of gold.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Like people are going to try to rob you, jump you, fucking kill you for those hot cakes. Because that equals money. It sounds crazy on the outside being like over synabones? Like they're not, I mean, they're good, you know, but like in the inside walls that's like a brick of gold. You could get so much with that. So interesting. You could get protection, you could get drugs, you could get Mexican Mafia, just to give you a little idea about these people, right? They were actually stated by the American government to be the deadliest and most powerful in the California prison system.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, they're really intense. They have about 400 to 500 official members and about a thousand associates who are trying to become members That they're just like their little bitch babies. They're like, I'll do whatever you want, please let me be a member. So they have rules in their mafia. This is in California. Yeah, but it's also nationally, like they've got the Mexican mafia on the East Coast too, but they're primarily a California-based gang. I'm like, their HQ is California.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah, it's kind of intense. So they had a lot of rules. Now, when I was reading through their rules, though, in the beginning, like the first couple of rules, I'm like, you know what, these sound like kind of good people. Where do I sign up? Do you think they do like paid maternity leave? Like, do you think I get some benefits? Like healthcare? Do I got healthcare? Like I was like, it sounds cool. Like, you can't be a rat, no snitches. You can't be a coward. You're not allowed to hit another gang member without approval from higher-ups
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'm like that's good. I like that avoiding violence. Yeah, I like it. You can't disrespect another member's family It doesn't matter if you hate that you if a fam a gang member's like mom comes in and she cusses you out You can never disrespect them. That's against the rules. You can't steal from another member I'm like these are good rules. These are just life rules that you should just have, right? Yeah. And then it started getting weird. Rule number six was, you can't be a homosexual.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And that's where I was like, you lost me. You lost me so hard. You know, you can't be a sex offender, a child's killer, a child molester, or a rapeist. And I was like, okay, I mean, yeah, that part, yeah. But why you got to add that one in the beginning, right? And then, and then rule number eight is the one that got me. Membership is for life, the only way out is death.
Starting point is 01:01:31 And I was like, oh! Okay, I rescinded my application to join. There was also another rule that it says it is mandatory to assault or kill dropouts and or traitors. So I was like, okay, got really intense. Like you just sneak those in the bottom. It's like the terms and conditions. Like I didn't see that at the top. What if I didn't read through the rules and I joined? You know, what would happen then? So anyways, this is a criminal syndicate that controls virtually every Latino street gang in Southern California. So they are insanely powerful.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Got insanely powerful. Then you have something called the Aryan Brotherhood, which I have heard a lot about, and it is a neo-Nazi prison game. The FBI says it's the oldest and most notorious racist prison gang in the US. Yes, it's a white-only membership. So super cool, super cool, super cool. They're really into organized crime,
Starting point is 01:02:24 so they like drug trafficking, extortion, inmate prostitution, and murder for hire. Those are their specialties. So they have a very white supremacist ideology, right? But that's not their major motivation. Their actual major motivation is money. So they'll even occasionally set aside all of their racist views, and they'll ally themselves
Starting point is 01:02:43 with like Latino gangs to make a profit. Like they just care about money. They have a shocking number of gang members. 15 to 20,000 official members in and out of prison. What is it called? The Aryan Brotherhood. And in order to join, you have to do a lot of crazy stuff. So you have to be in prison. So you've probably already done some crazy stuff, okay?
Starting point is 01:03:07 And then your number two, or rule number two, is that you have to be in probation for a year. So what probation means for these gangs is that you're just their bitch baby, like you just do whatever they want for a year. And then the third thing is you have to swear a blood oath for life, a blood oath. What's up? Like you have to give your blood to them. I don't know how much blood. And then the fourth rule? Like you have to give your blood to them.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I don't know how much blood. And then the fourth rule is that you have to commit a violent crime in prison, usually assaulting a police officer or killing a rival inmate. There was an old, old law in the Aryan Brotherhood that said that you had to kill someone who was black or Hispanic to join. They don't really follow that as much anymore, but it's still kind of implied. So they're super white supremacists, yeah. Okay, and so that's kind of like the top tier. Like you run this shit. If you run the Aryan brotherhood, you run this shit. If you run the Mexican mafia, you run this shit. So then the next year down would be called the
Starting point is 01:03:58 soldiers, and they are protected by the overall gang, right? So they go around doing the duties of the gang. they're just a gang member, they're not a higher up, they don't give any orders, they don't really have authority, but the prison rule is that if you insult or assault any gang member, doesn't matter if they are the lowest tier of that gang, it will be viewed as an act on the entire gang and they will come for you. So it's kind of like mutual protection. Then you have the third group, which is the largest group, which is just your run of the mill prisoners.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They have no gang alliance. This is the largest group that resides in prison. They do their best to stay out of politics or gangs. The only complication that you'll see these people get it is if they somehow, for some reason, get into a fight with a gang member by chance. And it's not even about the gang, you know. They still have to observe etiquette otherwise gangs will come for them, so the prison etiquette is normally you don't just respect any other inmates,
Starting point is 01:04:54 which means don't steal from them, don't call them names. So apparently the name punk is like the worst thing you could call someone in jail. Punk? Yeah. Because a punk is someone who can't stand up for themselves. So you're basically inviting that person to fuck you up. So you call someone a punk and you're going to get punked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:12 So like a punk is probably worse than you're like, you'll be it's, you know, like a punk. Okay, okay. So weird, right? And one of the biggest rules that you cannot skip is do not cut lines. So apparently a lot of prisoners will wait half an hour or more in several lines a day for like the food haul, for work, for clinic, like they have to wait in line for all of these things.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So if you cut, not only is it a disrespect to the person that you cut, but everyone behind them. Yeah, why would you cut lines? I don't know. Yeah, and so if the person that cut you doesn't get beat up by you, then you get beat up just for not beating that person up because now you're a punk for letting someone cut you. The amount of anxiety I would have in line,
Starting point is 01:05:56 hoping that nobody cuts me would be astronomical. Because I'm like, now I got to beat someone up, but I can't do that. I can't beat people up, right? It also, you can't help staff with investigations. Obviously, don't be a rat. Stay in your own area. Don't be loud. Don't be obnoxious. And then most of the time, these people won't even be pressured to join a gang. Like they said, it's really not like the movies. Like if you try to stay out of gangs, you're not going to be forced into a gang.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And then you have the next tear down, which are called the wives. Now these are punks, okay? These are prisoners with no backbone, so they essentially become quote unquote wives of other inmates. So they do all like the cleaning inside these inmates cells, they do the inmates chores, and then a lot of the times they get raped by the inmates. And they're usually owned by gang members.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah, so it means that you're protected by everyone else other than the person who you're the wife of because nobody's gonna try to fork with you because you know You're affiliated with this person who is very powerful in prison walls, but you're essentially a slave to that person It's not as frequent nor as often as a lot of movies depict though So they said this doesn't really happen all the time, you know, but you know, it does happen. Now at the very bottom, at the very bottom, if you did something to someone on the outside who happened to be a loved one of a powerful inmate, you're at the bottom. If you're a cop that did something bad, you're at the bottom. If you are in prison for snitching on someone, you're at the bottom. Or, crimes against children. Petafiles, child rapist, any crime against children,
Starting point is 01:07:30 child abuse, if you kill your own kid, because of abuse, such as Gabriel Fernandez, you're at the bottom. That's so fascinating, huh? I think it's because a lot of these inmates have kids. Like, it's interesting to see the humane side of these inmates have kids like it's interesting to see the human side Yeah, these criminals, they're like why would do all these shit, but don't fuck with kids Like you see that little bit of human sight you're like all of a sudden you're like
Starting point is 01:07:57 He's a nice man And then you go my respect and then the little up Chart my respects for prisoners And then you go my respect and then the little up and up chart. My respect for prisoners. Up up up. It's very interesting. So they're considered dirty or throw away people. But how do you know who is who? Because who's going to walk into prison and be like,
Starting point is 01:08:16 by the way, I'm a pedophile. So like, can't wait to be the bottom of this food chart, right? Words on the street. Yeah. So this is how they do it. They have a system. So the first thing is that a lot of states in the United States give you a jacket.
Starting point is 01:08:26 That's what they're called in prison. And it's essentially like a folder of legal paperwork. And inside of that includes information on the laws that you violated. Why are you in prison specifically? And so they will ask you for your jacket. If you don't give them your jacket, it's a little suspicious, huh?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Or if you don't have a jacket, oh, where do your jacket go? Everybody else has a jacket. Oh, so when you first go in, everybody want to see your file. Yeah. But that's only for certain states. Some states don't give you a jacket. So if that's a state that has a jacket and you don't show it to them, like you're probably just considered. And in prison, they don't really do trials, you know, they don't really say, well, let's just make sure without a shadow of doubt that this is a child rapist. They're just like, I feel it. So let's do it. And then the second thing is rumors if anyone says that you are a child rapist or Malester then that's enough evidence
Starting point is 01:09:12 Number three is if you are a transfer from a different prison and you come into this prison So transfers are different from newcomers and all the prisoners immediately when you walk in they know if you're a new inmate Like you just got arrested and just tried and now you're in prison, or if you've been transferred from a different prison. And let's say you get transferred from a different prison and you're kind of beat up a little like you got some marks and bruises. They're like, why would you get beat up in prison? Unless you're at the bottom of the food chain, are you a fucking child right?
Starting point is 01:09:43 Best. So they'll just immediately start beating you up too because they think you're a child right? Just because you beat up. This is a good thing to share with all the people who were thinking about doing something. Yeah, if you're thinking about it, don't do it. Now the other thing is that a guard could also let slip that you were transferred because you were marked at a different prison. And what marked means usually means you're at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Like you did some nasty shit. Now ironically to the prison guards, child molesters and the bottom tier of these people in the prison hierarchy are considered more intelligent and well educated compared to the average inmate. So they are treated pretty well by guards. So these are the ones that will usually hold prison jobs and maybe this has some explanation to do with why child molesters get out so early because I've always been so frustrated and annoyed. But maybe it's because they don't fight with the guards, they don't really start fights, they just get beat up and they do jobs in prison,
Starting point is 01:10:39 which is maybe why they get out early. I hate it. I hate that they get out early, but a lot of them do. Maybe that has something to do with it. And then also below that is a snitch. You snitch on anyone, you dead. They said if you snitch on someone and the inmate that you snitched on is released or goes to another prison or just dies, they still have friends. And you will get beat up. If someone wants to join a gang and the rule is
Starting point is 01:11:03 you gotta go kill someone, they're gonna go kill a snitch because no one's going to sit there and defend that snitch. No one's going to say, hey, I'm going to get my revenge on you because you killed that person. It's a snitch. They're kind of disposable. So don't be a snitch. Yeah. So they said statistically, they believe that more snitches get murdered or assaulted and
Starting point is 01:11:23 prison than child molesters. It's like, I feel like it's like pop culture reference to or assaulted and prison than child molesters. It's like, I feel like it's like pop culture reference to be like, oh, child molesters are like the bottom of the food chain, right? But it's just, there's some like highly publicized accounts, like such as the one of Jeffrey Dahmer where he was murdered. And then we almost liked the murderer a tiny bit until he was like, oh, god, I couldn't stop. And I wanted to eat him too.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And then I was like, oh, never mind. Uh, he had me there for a second. So yeah, usually jailhouse snitches will have the least fun overall. Now anyways, Paterrino, he goes to jail and he realizes in the cell that this is not what he signed up for. So what is he top tier? He's top tier.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Yeah. But just because he killed all the criminals. Yeah, but just because your top tier doesn't mean you're not going to have enemies. Right. So he's got enemies of all of these people who he's actually hurt. Yes, but General population isn't looking at him like fuck you, you know, unless he did something to you, right? So there was no mattress. There was no furniture
Starting point is 01:12:19 There was a water nozzle for a shower and there was no toilet There was just a hole in the floor and it's customary that the newest arrivals have their sleeping area, just a sleeping area because no mattress near the toilet hole. So he's like, you know what? I mean I got to do something for myself. He was immediately a target in this prison and so he started making a makeshift knife out of a spoon. He carried that with him everywhere. At one point five men tried to jump Padrino. Three of them were killed, two were wounded. Now he had a new reputation. People knew that he would kill without any hesitation.
Starting point is 01:12:53 So do not confront him. Do not try to slightly attack him because he'll kill you without any single thought. So now people were a little bit more scared of him, right? And if he didn't have weapons on hand because of course they would get confiscated if people found them, he would just break prisoners next with his bare hands. He would just snap a-
Starting point is 01:13:11 And he- there's no consequences. Not really. He went to multiple different trials while he was in prison, but he was already in prison for 127 years. So eventually his prison sentence was 400 years, but um, like what does that make a difference to him, right? And so he taught himself martial arts. He would do things to train himself.
Starting point is 01:13:29 He said that in prison, it's so important not to only inflict pain, but to be able to receive pain. So he would spend nights, like just all night and all night while his cellmates are sleeping, punching the concrete walls until his hands were bloodied up so that he could get used to being okay with pain. Wow, he's built for the streets. Bits, I got a paper cut and I'm like, where's the bandaid? Blood loss, help me. You're in the fainting and everything.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I'm really bad with blood. And so he would commit methodical murders in jail. He would be friend victims, he would be friend his future victims and they would all be like child molesters or wife beaters and stuff And he would spend weeks getting to know them and be like you know what you're such a cool dude Like I understand why you molested that kid like toats like good idea and then eventually He would just snap their necks when they weren't looking so he's calculated he calculated like okay This is my next target because everyone was so scared of him that no one was like, oh, let me be your friend.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Let me just put my guard down near you, right? So he's not trying my his own business. He's out there killing people. Oh, yeah. He was actively trying to kill people. So he would be friend these child molesters and be like, no, I hate child molesters. You're right.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Yeah, the word on the street is correct. I kill child molesters, but not you. You're different. You know? And so he would befriend them and then he would snap their necks. So his grandma and his mom would visit him every single week. Now one day he wakes up and he says this was the most heartbreaking day of his life. He wakes up and everyone around him is acting weird, which is not a good sign in prison. Anytime you would walk around, people would turn down their radios. Yeah, they got radios. They would like, Hashi, Chother.
Starting point is 01:15:05 And so he was like, you know what, if someone's trying to jump me or kill me, do it. Like, I'm not scared of anyone. So he went outside to the yard and he was working out. So the way that he worked out was he had this broomstick. And he cut off the broom part. Now it's just a stick. Then he attached water bottles filled with like water in them.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And then those were his dumbbells. And he would just pump those. Mm-hmm, right? Yeah, fitness guru. By the way, he's a YouTuber now. Pedro. Is this serial killer? Yeah, this guy, he's out and he's a YouTuber now.
Starting point is 01:15:32 He's out? Yeah, he's out. What are you being 400 years? Oh yeah, there's a Brazilian law. We're gonna get into it, but he's a YouTuber now. Sorry, just reminded me because it's a fitness guru. Are you kidding me? Yeah, he's a YouTuber.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Yeah. Are you scared? No! he's a YouTuber. Yeah. Are you scared? No. I'm not scared. He's old? He's old, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Wow. So he's like pumping these weights, right, with his makeshift broomstick. And a guard comes in and is like, hey, you need to go to the prison wardens office. He goes to the office and he's told that his mom is dead. And he's like, what? And he said, your mom died. She was sleeping one night and your dad came up to her and hacked her to death with a machete. She was stabbed 21 times with a machete. So he was like, do you want
Starting point is 01:16:14 to go to the morgue and see your mom and say goodbye. And so Petrino was like, yeah, I want to go to the morgue. So he goes to the morgue. And as he's looking over his mom's body, he promises her to get revenge. So this is when his dad's sister comes, okay, to visit him in prison. So his paternal aunt, his aunt comes, his dad's sister, and she was like, listen, your dad didn't mean to do it. Like it wasn't, it was an accident, and she had brought him a cake as a piece offering, and he was like, fuck you and fuck your cake. So he grabs the cake, he cuts it up into pieces, gives it to his cellmates, gives it to the stray dogs, because they had dogs that they kept us pets in this prison. I know, I know, it gets a little wild, okay? It gets a little unbelievable, but it's like a thing. I, I, yeah. And so, um,
Starting point is 01:16:53 he didn't want the cake, you know, he's like, why would I eat this cake? And all of a sudden, they all start vomiting and collapsing. A couple dogs had died. So he's like, what? The cake had been laced with poison. So now he's extra pissed that is that no because he was like fuck you like fuck this family. And so now he's extra pissed at his dad and the guards are pissed at him because they're like did you try to poison your cellmates and so they decided to transfer him to a new prison where he couldn't poison his cellmates because the guards were like oh yeah no you're aunt try to kill you they were like you're trying to
Starting point is 01:17:24 poison your cellmates. so they transfer him to a different prison this was the prison that his dad was in now of course they were kept in different sections of the prison you know because they don't really like family being in the same section of the prison but sometimes they can't avoid them being in the same prison and so he's in a different section and one day Pajorino pretends to be super sick so So the guard comes into his cell and he's like, hey, are you dead or something? And he threatens that guard with a knife,
Starting point is 01:17:49 takes his gun and his keys, and he's wielding that gun. And he gathers all of the other guards into his cell using the gun, locks them in the cell, and then goes and finds his dad. Now, Pedrino, senior, did not attempt to run. While Pedrino stabbed him 22 times, which is just one more stab wound than what he gave his mom, and he ripped out his dad's heart,
Starting point is 01:18:13 placed it on the ground, sliced off a piece of that heart, chewed it, and then spat it out onto his dad's body. Which I think had some sort of symbolic tone to it, because I mean, it just sounds kind of crazy to us, but I'm sure there was some sort of symbolicness to it, right? And he went back to the guards, unlock them, handed them all their keys and their guns, and then allowed himself to be peacefully handcuffed. So at this point, we know something's wrong with him, right?
Starting point is 01:18:41 Like, okay, fine. You want to be Batman, but something's wrong with you. Like we got to take a look at your brain. So the psychiatrist had diagnosed him with being a psychopath, with being paranoid, and having an anti-social personality disorder. It was also stated that psychologically, they believed that his greatest motivation in life
Starting point is 01:18:58 was violent affirmation of self, saying that he really only feels like himself and he is affirming to himself who he is if he's violent. Does that make sense? Like that is who he is and that's who he wants to be type of thing. It's so strange, right? Now there are some split views because some psychiatrists had come out and said, you know what? We think that he's completely harmless to the law of biting society. What? Which I don't know what that means. And so they also said that his rage was only
Starting point is 01:19:25 directed at people who do wrong. Okay, so here's where the theories come about. So a lot of people think that he's a psychopath. There's no denying it. He was diagnosed with it. I mean, he has little to no remorse for any of the victims that he's murdered, but people think that he has some sort of, um, almost like a, it could be narcissism that does it. It could be narcissism that you believe that you are a good person, even though when you're not. So you have a lot of psychopaths who become serial killers and they're like, I'm not a bad person.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I'm the evilist. I'm the evil of the evil. I'm the evil, I'm a Ted Bundy. Like they want to be like this crazy villain, right? But maybe Pedrino, because of his narcissism, he views himself to be a good person, but he's not. And so that's why they think maybe he justifies all of the things that he does and enforces
Starting point is 01:20:13 the idea that he's a good person by killing these criminals, which just doesn't really make sense. I mean, it's really hard to say. Some people also just straight up will say that Pedrino is a vigilante justice, is a real life Batman, a real life texture. And they say it's complicated because, you know, you could say that he's not because some of his victims were not necessarily
Starting point is 01:20:34 terrible people, but nothing's gonna be like a comic, like nothing's gonna be like a book, like a movie. Nothing's gonna be that clean cut, like he's as close as the world will see to a vigilante justice type character. I see the point behind that, but that's not the 21st century. Yeah, we're going to get into more of the theories, but the prisons made him more paranoid
Starting point is 01:20:58 while he was there. So he served time in nine different prisons and he started killing for more and more pointless reasons. So at one point he gave protection to a guy who was later, like, he left the jail, like he served his time and he vowed Pajrino to help him escape. So Pajrino gave him the address to his grandma's house and was like, listen, my grandma's gonna help you get all the supplies so that you can help me escape from prison. And so he's like, okay, so then he starts this romantic relationship with Pedrino's sister, Sylvana.
Starting point is 01:21:27 So he's like out of prison. He's like trying to help Pedrino. And I guess Sylvana was like, oh, that's so cool. And they fell in love, right? Now, one night, Pedrino's brother, it comes in drunk. And he's like, I bet you had sex with my brother in prison. And this guy gets so mad that he fires his gun. And it actually went off and killed
Starting point is 01:21:45 Sylvana and wounded her female friend. Wait, that is so confusing. So Patreino's brother accused a dude from prison. It had sex with Patreino in prison. Okay, so the brother is really weird. Yeah. Yeah. What are you saying?
Starting point is 01:22:03 That's your brother. What are you talking about? I know, but also this dude's really weird because like why would you need to shoot people for that accusation? You could just be like no, you know? And so obviously because he just murdered people, he was sent back to prison and Pedrino was like, listen, I have no grudge. I completely understand what happened and he resumed the role of his protector, which was what he was in prison. Then one random day, Pajrino walks into his cell and used a knife to violently saw his head off.
Starting point is 01:22:33 He decapitated him. Wait, did he kill his sister? Oh, okay. And he was like, no, no, I get it. Like the gun misfired. Yeah, you're chill. And he even protected him for months in prison to gain his trust. Yeah. And now in his free time, Padrina would learn to read and write. And this is when he
Starting point is 01:22:51 starts receiving fan mail. So he was getting about 50 fan mails a day or a week. So like, so like, people would write him love letters. He would get marriage proposals via mail. And like, at this point, people thought that he would never get out because he was sentenced to 127 plus years So um they're just like yeah, it's all fun and then the it's all fun and then until you're um Your idol shows up at your door and then he's like so when we getting married and it's like what You know, it's all cute. It's all like oh my god I can you believe I'm like pen piling a serial killer? It's all cute till they get out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I don't even think it's cute till they get out, but like, you know, be careful. And so these letters, they would just keep coming in. Now he started getting request. What, what does that mean? Request from families to write the wrongs that inmates had committed on the outside. So he said if the letters seemed genuine, by the way, this is his marking, he was just like, if they sound real,
Starting point is 01:23:48 he would accept their request and he would kill people and jail people on the outside. Now to be fair, only about 8% of all murders were solved in Brazil and 36% of the confirmed murders that he committed in prison to other inmates, they hadn't been officially charged with the crime yet. So they were being held without being charged yet. So I can kind of see how people use that to the Dexter defense of like, no, he was just
Starting point is 01:24:17 trying to get some justice because they hadn't been charged yet, but it's all weird. It's still very weird. So he had multiple trials in prison and he just said that he just really likes killing people. During one trial, the judge was like, hey, why did you kill this inmate? And he said, he snored too much. And then he was like, hey, why did you kill this inmate? And he was like, I did not like his face. So he said, though, later, to journalists that that wasn't the truth. He was just being annoying to the judges. But one of them was because a lot of the inmates were like housed in a different section during a prison riot.
Starting point is 01:24:49 And he had a girlfriend who came to visit, and somehow she ended up there with them with, yeah, the inmates. I don't know how the visitor hours work there, right? And they were doing it. They were having sex in the middle of a prison riot. And one of the prisoners just stood and watched, and so he had to kill him for being disrespectful. So 71 total deaths have definitely been pinned on Paterino,
Starting point is 01:25:14 so he's been convicted definitively in Brazil to 71 deaths, but his sentence at this point has totaled over 400 years. Now, in 1985, he was transferred to a psychiatric prison where he was held in this solitary confinement where it was just, it was really bad. No one could talk to him, he couldn't talk to anyone, and the killing stopped because he literally couldn't
Starting point is 01:25:35 talk to anyone, right? And so he would spend all of his time that he would not kill to read, to write, he played a lot of solitaire and also with punching the walls of the cells till he blood. That was like his favorite hobby. So from 1992 to 2002, he was held almost in complete isolation without the occasional prison riot here and there, then he would be free running around the prison,
Starting point is 01:25:59 because prisoners would release other prisoners. At one point, they took a bunch of visitors' hostage, and they were held hostage for three days. days and then afterwards the hostages were interviewed and they were like No, like Pudrino really took care of us like he made sure that we had food and that we were warm and stuff And I was like what Very strange, okay, like he would exercise alone and stuff. I mean he was just in solitary confinement till 2002 Now he was really he was asked by a lot of journalists, like, if you were released, would you kill again? And he said, yes, I would have to.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I'm a murderer. I always have been to put it simply. And he would also state, the things I do are good for society. In my opinion, killing my enemies and people who rape, who kill children, who kill family men, do they deserve to live? Tell me, they do not. I mean, like it's really hard to argue that one. I mean, it's not that hard. When you hear child rape or rape, it's really hard to sit there and be like, no, I want them to live so hard, you know? It's just like, I don't make the rules, you know?
Starting point is 01:26:58 I'm just like, let me just... Anyway, I'm just saying, like I'm not a stan, okay? I'm not gonna be fighting for their rights right now. So this is where it gets weird. In the early 2000s, Brazil realized that they had a law, right? An article five of the Brazilian Constitution stated that nobody could be sentenced to their natural life in prison. And they stated that the natural life in prison, the life expectancy back in the day when they wrote this was 43 years.
Starting point is 01:27:27 So they said no one could serve more than 30 years collectively for all of their crimes, because that would essentially be life in prison, because people only lived till they were 43 back in the day. What? Yeah, weird as thought, right? And it hasn't been updated since, so they were like, what do we do? What do we do? Like, we're literally breaking the Constitution
Starting point is 01:27:45 by housing these inmates for more than 30 years. And so they finally had to release a lot of inmates. That were there for like 200 years. They were like, your sentence is 200 years, but now you gotta leave because you've served 30 years, right? And so, Pedrino was one of them. What? He claimed to have killed over 100 victims for sure 71 victims, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I mean, even journalist in Brazil will say record keeping in prisons were really, really bad. So we know that he was charged with 14 murders when he went to prison, like convicted, but then we don't know how many happened in prison. The record keeping was absolutely chaotic, they said. So it could be way less, it could be way more. It's hard to say. And now we just have Padrino's word for it. And so at this point, once he hears about this,
Starting point is 01:28:32 that people are getting out on parole, he has an attitude change. He says that he has no enemies. He doesn't plan to kill. He's like, chill. He's like, listen, I want to live a cool life. I just want that cottage core life. I want to buy a cottage somewhere and just make a family one day. You day. He was looking forward to being released. He was entering his 50s.
Starting point is 01:28:49 He was young. You're so young. Yeah, he was still fit. And he was like, yeah, I'm just going to get a job at the slaughterhouse and presume my life. And so at this point, the state officials are just looking for loopholes to keep him locked up because this is insane. And they found this article that was like, oh, if like a crime is committed after the commencement of a sentence, it could be considered new and separate. So they extended a sentence till 2017, another 14 years. But this obviously, if he had an attorney, it could be challenged in court, and it would just drop away because it was really based on nothing that they Said this too and he didn't know about it in the beginning. He was just like what? Okay, like I guess I'll stay till 2017 and then he got someone to help him found a lawyer and he appealed the sentence
Starting point is 01:29:37 April 24th 2007 he was released after serving 34 years Now here's the two problems. Brazil did not have a re-socialization program. So all of these inmates, just like, they were like, bye. They didn't give them, like, hey, so by the way, this is how the world has changed since you were admitted. This is how you think we think that you can get a job.
Starting point is 01:30:00 This is what we think that you should do now. They're just like, cake, cool, bye. And so they were all released. about 70% of them went back to jail, like within that year because they just kept committing more crimes. There was also no probation. There's no parole. They didn't have to check in anywhere. You didn't have to show them like, Hey, I'm not killing people right now. Hey, right. And so Pedrino was a free man. So he moved into this very countryside area into a pink cottage.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah, cottage core vibes, right? He got a pet labrador, he started a tending church, and he worked as a caretaker at a farm. All of his neighbors freaking loved him. They said that he was hardworking, he was serious, and he was a religious dude, and they really liked him. They knew who he was, and he was like, he's chill. Now the police didn't really care that he was chill, but he just wanted to re-arrest him. So they were working on a case.
Starting point is 01:30:45 They found out that he was involved in a lot of prison riots, you know, especially ones with the hostages. So they were like, we're gonna re-arrest him for that. So it took a while for them to find them, but finally, September 15th of 2011, he was arrested and charged for six riots. 2011? Yeah, for six riots.
Starting point is 01:31:01 He was out in 2017. No, no, he got out 2007 because he got an attorney to appeal. Oh, seven. Yeah. And then so in 2011, he was re-arrested for his six riots that occurred during his prison sentence, right? And he also had a possession of a loaded gun when they arrested him. So that violated the terms of the release. And he calmly accepted it. He was like, hold on, and he gave his Labrador to his pet neighbor or his neighbor. He gave his pet to his neighbor. Maybe his pet neighbor listened.
Starting point is 01:31:29 If I was petrino's neighbor, I'd be his pet. I'd be so scared. I'd be like, oh, I'm sorry. I'll take out your trash for you. What the heck? I'll pay your mortgage for you. I'd be so scared, okay? And so reporters were everywhere.
Starting point is 01:31:41 And everyone was like, do you think you've already paid for your crimes? And he said, yeah. So in prison, he went back to reading, working out. He did some celebrity shit, you know? He kept like reading fanmails. He talked to authors and documentary makers and reporters. It's alleged that I think he's currently working
Starting point is 01:31:57 on a documentary. So anyways, in 2012, there was an interview where he was constantly being compared to Dexter because this was like the hype of Dexter, right? And Zartan was like, oh my god, you're the Dexter, you're the Dexter. And he claimed that he did not kill anyone. He didn't think deserved it.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And he doesn't believe in having regrets. So December 6th of 2017, six years into his second sentence, he was released at 64 years old. He still looked very youthful, and he was released. Now he's free. He started a YouTube channel. Oh, so this is him. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:31 He still looks really young, no? Yeah. So he's out out, and that's it. He's free. He's out. He says he won't kill anyone unless they hurt his family. He attends church.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He said that God has forgiven him for his sins. He's a bit of a Facebook star, apparently. He has a quarter million friends or something like that. I don't know how Facebook works. Apparently he has a lot of friends on Facebook or people who follow him. I think you can do fan pages now. He cooks on there and shares motivational tips. He covered his tattoos. The one he had won that said revenge, but he changed it to love. The one that said, I kill for pleasure.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Now is a scorpion, you know. And he wrote an autobiography. I think he's writing another one. Which by the way, that one starts with a lie. So his autobiography, like the part one that he released, it's that that he was born on the stroke of midnight, the stroke of midnight on Halloween, which is not true. I'm born on November 1st. But were you born at midnight? I can't find out. So, so, oh my god, Mr. Mangle by El Matador
Starting point is 01:33:50 Ooh, and so he's working on a documentary apparently. I don't know if that's been out I try to look up like where what he's doing in 2020 and it seems like he's laying low But also he I think he mainly speaks in Portuguese So there you know, I maybe that's why I can't easily find him everywhere But he's kind of like a local celebrity. Like he stands, even police officers want to shake his hand and selfies when he's out in public in the community. He claims that he's living proof
Starting point is 01:34:13 that psychopaths can be cured. However, at the same time, in the same breath, he remains super emotionless. He said that the people he killed weren't even worth the food that they ate. I feel like that's not really a cure because that doesn't make any sense. But also, there's the double-edged sword of a psychopath who can be cured for entertainment sake, for argument sake.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Why can these people that you've killed not be cured? Right. So, there's a little bit of weirdness. So now the question is, was this pure vigilante justice? Is this really him being a Robin Hood or a Batman? And we just don't really see it like that because it's not as clean cut as the movies, you know? Batman's clean cut. He's like, this is good. This is bad. This is where I am. Oh, Batman, right? Like, you know, but then in real life, it's not gonna be like that. So is he as close as real life will see Tobatman? Or do you guys think that he looks for reasons after the crime has been committed?
Starting point is 01:35:11 Or he just is a psychopath who wanted to kill people and he has like a narcissistic issue where he's like, no, I'm a good person. And so he would kill people that he could easily justify being like, oh, they're scum. So it seems like he still has that same complex that a lot of psychopath serial killers have, which is that everyone is beneath them and he can take their life if they want to. He just does it in a way that makes him sound good, but it's not necessarily any better. Some people say that, no, most of it's a complete lie. Some people think that he's only killed a handful of people, and he's lying and making all
Starting point is 01:35:43 of this up to get street credit or maybe to turn it into monetary reasons, you know? So it says that he does have a lot of supporters that really, I don't think he has that many stands. Like I don't think people are like, oh man, you're the best, you know? But I think there's a lot of people who are like, whatever, let him be out.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Doesn't affect us because we're not his, you know, like we're not criminals. So people are less likely to be like, oh, that's a disgusting serial killer. But let me know, what do you guys think about this one? This one, I personally think he was a psychopath with like a narcissistic issue. I think he just wanted to feel cool, like a superhero, but he's not at all. But let me know in the comments. There's no comments. Let me know what are your thoughts.
Starting point is 01:36:27 And I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. But I also hope you guys enjoy your new year. Have a good new year's Eve. Stay safe. Don't go outside. Wear a mask because yes, it's 2021, but the pandemic still thrives. And I'll see you. The perpendicular still thrives.
Starting point is 01:36:43 And I'll see you guys next Wednesday. Bye. Bye. And I'll see you. The perpendicular still thrives and I'll see you guys next Wednesday. Bye. Bye.

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