Rotten Mango - #305: Chef Brother Caught With Missing Sister’s DNA Inside His Rice Cooker
Episode Date: October 18, 2023Lucy had just moved in with her new husband. Though she didn’t marry for love she felt like it would be easy to fall in love with this man. He cooked her 3 meals a day and got upset whenever she ste...pped foot in the kitchen. He said he just wanted her to rest and be happy. It was sweet. But soon Lucy noticed that even stepping foot near the kitchen would send her newlywed husband on edge… it felt like there was something in that kitchen she wasn’t allowed to see. One day, while he was at work, she ventured into the kitchen to make a small snack. She opened the freezer —— and made eye contact. A woman’s head. Frozen. Eyes wide. Staring back at her. Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Barbe being barbe.
Lucy felt like she got lucky with her husband.
He's 10 years older than her, and that was initially a concern for her.
She's got to be pragmatic about it, right?
But it also has its advantages.
Usually with age comes maturity, patience, and the ability to provide.
And she's 27.
He's 37, so it's not like this alarming age gap where she's freshly 18 and he was caring
He's reliable and she's just so excited to start this new phase of her life with him
She was gonna move from her hometown in mainland China to Taiwan make new friends maybe start a family with this man
The possibilities were endless and she admits you know a large part of why she married this guy
It has a lot more to do with settling down
instead of, instead of love.
But she could learn to love him.
That's what she felt like.
It was a little isolating to be without her friends in Taiwan,
but she could call them.
And she did every single night.
She would call them and tell them everything
that her sweet husband did for her that day,
which by the way, this is crazy, but he never wanted her to be in the kitchen. All of her friends are like,
that is insane, I'm so jealous of you. Most of our husbands, super traditional, they want me
to cook three meals a day, and your husband constantly cooking for you, breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, you're never in the kitchen? Yeah, well, he's a chef, so I guess it kind of makes sense
that he would want to spend
time in his own kitchen, right?
He would, however, get a little snappy at her when she disturbed his peace in there.
But it's kind of enduring.
You know, he's just very passionate when he's cooking.
He doesn't want anyone to mess with his flow.
So, for the first few weeks, Lucy was in marital bliss, but as time went on, she starts having these
really odd suspicions.
Her husband didn't just get snappy when she tried to help him cook in the kitchen.
Even if she walked into the kitchen for a glass of water, he would be lounging in the living
room, jumping up off the sofa to get the water for her.
It's one thing to not want someone messing up your process or your work, but it's another
thing to just not want your wife in a whole room of the house, like such an important
room of the house.
Even if she's not moving things around or touching anything, but maybe she's been spending
too much time alone without her friends.
She's thinking, maybe I'm overthinking things.
Maybe he's just trying to be nice.
But one day while he was at work, curiosity gets the best of Lucy.
And she decides, this is so silly.
So silly.
I'm just going to go in there and make myself something to eat.
And if he's going to get upset about that, then he's a horrible husband.
What does he want me to do?
Starve to death?
She walks over to the kitchen, opens up the freezer door. Maybe there were some frozen dumplings she could steam.
But instead, she makes eye contact.
Inside the freezer was a woman's frozen head.
She had long hair, her eyes were wide open, and staring at Lucy. Lucy slammed the freezer door shut.
She ran back into the room and she's like,
I gotta leave now, right?
But no, she can't.
He knows where her family lives.
He knows everything about her.
He would know that she saw the head and left.
I mean, this man would probably track her down
to keep her quiet.
The only other option is divorce, but how?
She doesn't have a single person in the area that she knows, and she's terrified of this
guy.
Even going to the cops, what if he hides the head somehow?
Lucy decides the only way to survive in the long run is to wait a few weeks before making
up some lie that her grandma passed away, and she would have to go to her family.
She would have to go back home to mainland China.
For the funeral, of course, and then she could tell her parents everything that she saw,
everything that happened, and then they would help her figure a way out of this.
But that meant, for the next few weeks, she would have to pretend like nothing was wrong.
She would have to control the fear in her voice, her facial expressions, she would have to
not flinch whenever he got close to her. Whenever he walked into the kitchen, she would have to not look
suspicious.
If he suspected that she knew about the head, what would he even do to her?
She had to play this right.
She would have to sit down at the table, smiling, happy, in love, and get excited over these new dishes that he's cooking,
and try not to gag wondering.
Where is the rest of that woman's body? As always full show notes are available at
rottenminglepodcast.com. We had our Mandarin speaking researchers assist on this case so we could
gather all the facts and details that were out there. Hopefully this will be a comprehensive
deep dive on the case but but as always, with foreign
cases, please let us know in the comments if there was anything we missed, anything lost
in translation, or any just extra details that you know about this one.
And with that being said, let's get started.
If you have plans to go on a cruise, or maybe like a long boat ride, some people might
recommend that you pray to the goddess Mazoo.
Do you know the goddess Mazoo.
Do you know the goddess Mazoo?
Mazoo?
Yes.
No.
Okay, well her name translates to eternal mother.
Does it not?
Oh, okay.
And many believe she's the goddess that watches over the seas.
So for generations, seamen would go fishing off the coast of Taiwan
only to come back to land,
and their eyes would be wide.
Like this is how God as Mazoo started.
Her story, her hair would be soaking wet,
and they would tell the craziest stories of like,
oh my God, our boat almost capsized,
it almost flipped over,
but then this woman came down from the sky
and this red robe.
She said her name was Mazoo and she saved us.
She saved us.
This is like hundreds of years ago.
So unlike other goddesses,
fishermen, sailors, anyone who claims to have been saved
by goddess Mazoo, they said that she never asked
for anything in return.
She's just this powerful benevolent, compassionate,
giving goddess.
And eventually people didn't just worship the goddess,
Mazoo, when they went into open waters,
but even on land, she was kind of the goddess of life
in Taiwan.
She will protect you no matter what.
And in New Taipei city, there's even a temple
named after her.
It was built 250 years ago, which is technically crazy
because that's around the same age as America.
Yeah.
So there's this temple built.
It's very, very old.
It's the Shenzhou Mazu temple, and it's really interesting because there's actually a lot
of temples in this area.
This one was built 250 years ago, and it's actually pretty modest in size, so it's not one
of these crazy, old-in-day ancient buildings that's so massive and so grand.
It's like a tiny little temple, but it's almost always jam packed with tourists and locals.
Some people will even say, I came from America, I came from all around the world just to be
at this temple.
The locals said, this was one of the more favorable temples that you could pray at.
Basically, a lot of your prayers may come true here at this very temple. Some people said they could feel
it the moment that they walked in. There was this energy shift according to
people who have been there. Once you walk in, you're hit with this scent of strong
incense and you're in the city, but you suddenly feel this just heavy piece. It's
like a weighted blanket. You just feel that piece. It feels calm.
And then you even forget what time it is. You're just in the moment praying. People are kneeling
in front of sacred statues. Some people are lighting up new incense. Others are rearranging and
setting up flowers and fruit platters at the altar. And it just feels like a very peaceful time of reflection.
But that day, it would be shattered by this ear piercing screech, like just blood curdling.
It's the type of scream that makes you want to kind of tilt your ear down because it
sounds like nails on a chalkboard and everyone is whipping their heads around trying to
look for the direction of this scream because,, obviously, it's not a natural screen.
Trying to figure out what's going on.
Everyone's frozen in the middle of whatever they're doing in the middle of praying, arranging
the fruit, everyone is still, except this one woman is running frantically towards the
temple.
She's like sweating her hair as a mess, her eyes are kind of like bulging out of her
head, and everyone's freaked out
What is this woman going through is this it seems like she's shaking from what though adrenaline fear psychosis like why is she coming to the temple?
She runs into the temple completely disregards everybody in there drops to her knees in front of the Mazoo statue
And she starts blurting out a bunch of prayers
her knees in front of the mazu statue and she starts blurting out a bunch of prayers. She's stuttering and nothing is making sense. Everyone can hear her
train of thought and it's just jumbled like scrambled eggs. It doesn't make
sense. It's like she's verbally vomiting. She's sweating. She doesn't even look at
anyone around her. She doesn't even realize that she's disturbing the piece.
Everyone's looking at her like she's crazy.
No, she just kept praying.
Rubbing her palms together,
word vomiting, shaking, sweating, and then nothing.
She just stops, gets up and leaves the temple
and everyone is like, what is going on?
It was like she was in a trance, okay?
She's just walking out one foot in front of the other
until she ends up in front of a police station.
She's now sitting in front of these police officers
vomiting up the same thoughts and memories.
It's like the floodgates had opened
and everything is just spilling out
at once on the table in front of them.
The police are telling her,
like, slow down, slow down.
Okay, you're the janitor at the temple.
And you what? I went to go clean the bathrooms. They're detached from the temple, maybe like 600 feet away. I went to clean the men's bathroom first and I saw this plastic bag in there, right? It's one
of those black grocery store flimsy plastic bags that you get and clearly something was in there.
And it was just sitting on the back of the toilet. So if you're using the restroom, your back would
be to this bag, right?
And she thought maybe it's takeout that someone forgot or someone was just too lazy to throw their own trash away and left it for whoever would clean the restroom
So that's what she was gonna do. She was just gonna trash it
But then she was worried
What if someone didn't leave it? What if they accidentally left it and then there's something valuable in there
And this is a temple. We get tourists, we get locals.
You know, what if they come back looking for it?
So she starts opening up the back.
There's like a tight knot on this black plastic back.
She's trying to get it open.
And the minute that she undoes it, she said it's like the most pungent smell she's ever
smelled in her life.
Like someone sprayed something into her face.
She'd never smell anything like it.
It was stinking up the whole bathroom.
She was waving her hand in front of her nose,
squinting her eyes because it's the type of smelly
that you feel like is gonna absorb into your body.
So you feel like you need to squint your eyes
so it doesn't penetrate.
And she's briefly debating, okay,
maybe I should throw it away in the trash,
assuming maybe it's seafood.
That's what she's telling the police.
Like maybe I thought it was seafood
that had gone bad or maybe baby diapers
that people had been just like leaving around.
It's not like it had been marinating for a while.
But something in her head just told her to keep going.
She keeps untying the bag.
She finds more layers.
Maybe it's curiosity.
Maybe she knew that she would think about this bag
every single night for the rest of the week
when she laid in bed,
because she just needed to know what's in there.
There's layers upon layers.
Layers of bags?
It's like, she opens the bag and there's a jacket.
So she's like, take it out the jacket.
Then there's a shirt, she's taking out the shirt,
and then there's plastic wrap. She's like, take it out the jacket. Then there's a shirt she's taken out the shirt. And then there's plastic wrap.
She's like, okay, what's going on?
And then finally, a decapitated head.
It was covered in salt.
It was basically fermented.
She cries to the police.
Like, I will never get this look out of my mind
because the amount of salt that was covering this head,
the head was shriveled up like a raisin.
It was completely dry.
So she's just letting this out all on the table.
I mean, probably not organized like the way I just told you,
it's like just coming out all at once,
like she was in the temple.
And the police are debating for a good minute.
Maybe this janitor lost her mind. I mean she looks kind of crazy. Her hair is a mess, her eyes are
like bulging out. She doesn't seem credible. But then right then the phone rings. I felt like,
what is going on? A police station about three hours away was calling. We have a very strange letter
and it falls
under your jurisdiction. So they're like, okay, yeah, just tell us the letter. Apparently
an anonymous letter was sent earlier this morning to that police station three hours away.
They initially thought it was a prank. They didn't get around to it because they're
like, first of all, that's three hours away. We've got nothing to do with this. This feels
like a kid wrote it to scare us. So they disregarded it, but then they were thinking, you know what? Maybe we should just have a different
police station look into it instead of us driving three hours.
Okay, what does it say? It reads, hello officer, Chen Wan-ting, we'll call her CC. CC's corpse
is inside the men's restroom 600 feet away from a temple in New Taipei city. Please give her a burial. I can't deal with it. Thank you. A kindhearted man.
Hmm. Wow.
Now the officers are looking at the janitor like, okay, this is really bad.
Like, whatever's going on is true and it's bad. So they rush.
In their patrol cars turn their lights on The whole nine yards, they start heading
to the temple bathroom.
They slam open the bathroom stall door
and the smell hits them hard.
And the janitor was telling the truth.
There was this black plastic bag sitting on the toilet.
They opened it up, revealed the first layer,
another plastic bag.
So I guess you had put everything back where it was.
Then slowly peeled off, another one to find another layer, a woven sack, then a jacket, a t-shirt, a pair of black floral shorts, and then
lastly, a female pair of underwear covered in male bodily fluids. An underneath all seven layers
was a woman's decapitated head, covered in salt, and a little note.
And the note read identity equals 10 wanting.
Whoever left her head wanted the police to find her corpse,
not only that, but they wanted the police to know who the head belonged to,
but why wouldn't that go against most criminals' best interest? Yeah. Maybe this
wasn't even right, maybe she wasn't CC, maybe this is a red herring. But as of
right now, that is the strongest lead that they have, and it was time to figure
out who is CC, who wants her dead, and also where is the rest of CC's body? The
detectives find CC. Well, they find her apartment. They don't find
her, right? And they start questioning her neighbors one by one. And it all started the same.
All of them were like, C.C. Who? Literally all of them. Nobody knew C.C. and the police
would show them a picture because C.C. has a missing, missing president's poster. She's
in the database. They show them a picture. She went missing three months ago.
So not even that long ago.
Come on, you guys do the neighbors.
And they're like, oh my god, yeah, you know her.
But we just called her a little sweetheart around here.
It's like a little nickname.
So the police are assuming, well,
that must mean you guys are very close to her
because why would you call your neighbor a little sweetheart?
And all the neighbors were like, no, absolutely not.
We were not close at all. Some
neighbors stated you know some of us felt bad for her but she was just not that fun of a
person to be around. There were always these strange noises that would come out of her
unit. Sometimes she would run out in her pajamas, stand in the hallway, and stare at anyone
that passes by and if you happen to make eye contact with her, she would start hysterically laughing. It was weird.
There were always men coming in and out of that unit and I think that they were assaulting
her because she would run out of her apartment, her hair would be a mess and her clothes look
like someone had been trying to rip them off and she would scream, this man is trying to
assault me.
And at first as neighbors, we tried to help but it just kept happening so
frequently. And sometimes we didn't even know if we could believe her. She was
always drunk or high. Some neighbors were a little bit more sympathetic. They
said, you know, we just all kind of felt bad for her. And we felt bad for her
brother. He was the one that always took care of her. Like no matter how bad
she got, no matter if she went on a drug binge, and even his wife left him
recently because of her. They say it's because went on a drug binge, and even his wife left him recently
because of her. They say it's because she had a family emergency, like her grandma died
or something, but we all know that she left because of all the family drama. She probably
couldn't handle the stress anymore. The victim was always going around accusing people
of assaulting her or saying that she needed to be assaulted to make money.
The brother lives in this apartment?
The brother, yeah, they live together.
The brother, C.C.
The brother, C.C. and brother's wife.
Yeah, but the...
The wife just left.
Right, C.C. is dead.
So the officers, they do more digging into C.C.'s past.
And it was, yeah, it was just grim.
Okay, so C.C. and her
family, they were dealt some really shitty cards. C.C. was the fourth of six siblings,
which is a huge family. I mean, factoring in two parents, that's eight mouths to feed,
and they weren't doing well financially. And then when C.C. was a teenager, her father passed
away from excessive drinking
and I assume liver problems. So now Cece's mom was raising all six kids by herself. Thankfully,
some of them were grown enough to move out of the house, but still, I mean, she was a single mom
to a lot of kids. And I don't think that she was necessarily a bad mom. I think Cece's mom
tried. She tried her best to give in the circumstances,
but it just wasn't perfect.
I mean, it wasn't even good.
So she was working non-stop every single day,
barely had time to rest.
She definitely did not have time to educate her children,
help them with homework,
make sure that they weren't falling into bad influences.
Like, the kids were basically raising themselves.
She did put food on the table.
She put a roof over their heads, but that was about it.
She just didn't have the capacity to do anything else.
That was her priority.
She's not like a tiger mom demanding to know,
what are your grades?
Like sit down, show me your report card.
She didn't do any of that.
And so a lot of the kids, you know,
the teachers would say,
we don't want to call it flaws.
But they definitely seemed
under supervised.
We could tell.
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I mean, there is something about watching a horror movie,
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Most of this boogie movies on Netflix,
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CC was actually called the school flower of her grade
Wow, yeah, so that's the term given to typically the prettiest girl in the entire school
Usually multiple popular boys would be trying to take her out on secret dates after school.
Also, not only that, but also have good grades.
Yes, but CC was the exception.
Oh, really?
No good grades, yeah.
And her desk drawer was always filled to the brim
with snacks, love letters from boys who had crushes on her.
And she looked like an innocent girl next door,
almost like all the school flowers.
That stereotypical look.
She had more soft rounded features.
She's very conventionally pretty growing up.
Okay, to give you context, when she was 15 years old,
she's walking home from school
and she hears this man behind her.
Excuse me, student.
Excuse me, take my business card.
I must count for a huge entertainment agency
and I think that you were exactly what we're looking for. He runs off and C.C. throws away his business card. She did not
care to be in the entertainment industry and it's not because she was too busy studying
or she wanted to focus on graduating high school. She straight up felt like the industry
was lame. Like she was too cool for it. So you know how high schoolers, you know how high schoolers are.
And for CC, it was even worse because she was hanging out with these really intense crowds
that felt like school is lame, learning is lame. All of these things are lame. They would smoke,
drink, skip class, and do dr... which is insanely hardcore in Taiwan. Like even for adults to do drugs, that's crazy. For high schoolers to do
drugs in sanity. So to them, everything else was lame. And it seemed like Cece's mom knew
what was going on, but like she didn't know how to stop it. It's not like she had the funds or
the time to just sit there and make sure that Cece went to school. She would yell at her. She,
because eventually Cece would be escalated to the point where she was expelled
from school. So her mom is yelling at her, but it's not working. C.C. drops out of high school
and she gets married at 18 years old. Even her friends were like 18. Like you should wait.
You have so many guys that like you, you should explore your options. Don't tire yourself down so
quickly. Like why would you do that? C.C. had what they called lover's brain. There was no talking to her about
this guy. She was in so deep. I mean, she felt like this guy was the savior of the planet,
the whole reason that she was born for this moment to be his bride. Like, to put it mildly,
I mean, she was in love with this man. And I'm sure that there's some trauma there.
Like, maybe this is the first person
that made her feel like she could be herself.
Maybe it's the first person that loved her.
I don't know, maybe he was filling
some sort of father figure role.
So they get married very quickly
and then have a child together.
CC is 18 and so is he.
And that's where the problem,
the downfall of their marriage comes in.
Every able bodied male citizen in Taiwan
is required to serve in the military for,
I think a little over a year.
I think it's like 16 months.
I think four months of basic training
and then 12 months of active duty.
I don't know if they categorize that as a year
or 16 months, right?
And her husband is like, okay, bye,
gotta go and listen to the army, it's the law.
Good luck with the kid.
C.C. gets her life together while he's gone. I don't know if it's a conscious choice.
I don't know if she sat down one day and was like,
we got this.
I gotta change.
Or if it just like happened gradually, I'm not sure.
But while her husband is in the army,
she's like the epitome of a try hard single mom
in the best way possible.
She's working cleaning the house, taking care of the
child. Any free time she had, she would talk to her friends about how perfect her husband was.
She had this calendar where she counted down all the days until he was back and her friend said
it's like someone went into her brain and installed like a love potion where she can only think about
this one person and it's her husband.
Every single day she would get so excited to do the little red X on another day, one
day closer for her husband coming back.
So a few weeks are remaining before he's finally out.
And Cece gets a letter in the mail and she's like skip popping back to the apartment to
open it up.
It's from the love of her life right.
She's carefully ripping it open
because she's like saving all of his letters.
And as she's reading it, her smile is fading.
Tears are just streaming down her cheeks.
She's gripping the letter tighter
and her knuckles are white
by the end of it all she feels is pure rage and anger.
Her husband wrote to her to say, basically,
hey, thanks for waiting for me
and taking care of our child all alone.
But once I get out, I'm gonna live my life.
You know, my parents don't think that you're good enough for me
and I don't want anything to do with you or the baby.
So good luck.
C.C. is like, okay, this has got to be a joke.
It's a joke, it's a prank.
It's maybe one of those things that people do in the arm.
Like, you know how you have to get initiated into the army.
Maybe the other army bros made him write this, right?
And then he's going to come home and if you, it'll be fine.
It'll be fine, right?
It wasn't fine.
She had no idea how to contact him even when he was returning, when he was out of the army.
She had, she couldn't track him down.
He never came back.
So eventually she comes to terms with the fact that, okay, this is my new life.
She drops off her child at a relative's house.
She said, I can't look at my kid anymore
because looking at my kid reminds me of my husband.
So she also abandoned the child?
Yeah, she packs her bags, moves to a nearby city.
She's 22 when this happens.
And she fully snaps. It was sudden, it's weird.
One day her friends were comforting her. She's devastated, which is to be expected after
such a shitty breakup, right? But the next day, it's like the old CC gone. Her friends
noticed that one day her makeup was just regular CC makeup, very light, clean, right? That
is just so heavy. Like smoky eye intense pigmented
colors all over her face. I mean, she's still beautiful. That makeup style is beautiful.
It was just so sudden. Like, you know how people chop off all their hair when they're not
feeling great mentally? Like every girl dies their hair after a breakup. That was kind
of the vibe. So they're like, okay, maybe we should just keep an eye on her. But then it starts getting weirder. C.C. starts wearing her pajamas out and just
mindlessly strolling around the neighborhood. If someone would make eye contact with her,
she would stop walking, just like stop walking, stare at them and tilt her head up to the
sky and start hysterically laughing.
So she's going through something mentally, right?
Yeah, and it was kind of creeping people out.
A lot of people would cross the street to avoid walking past her.
And C.C.'s friends believe that this is kind of when she went mad.
Her only life goal from this point on was just to drink and get high.
And it's clear she's trying to self-medicate with whatever's going on in her head.
She's not okay, she's not showing, she's not taking care of herself.
I mean, Cece's mom is trying to help by giving her around $250 a month, which doesn't
cover the necessities, but that's all Cece's mom had left.
And Cece would use it on drinking and smoking.
No job would hire her, so CC starts engaging in sex work.
Her pricing was $15 to touch her breast, $80 for full intercourse.
At least that's how it started.
And then eventually when her addiction got really bad
and she was really desperate, some clients
that her pricing would drop
down to $8 for full intercourse. And the thing that with sex work, okay, personally I never
judge anyone that is engaged in sex work and I know right now in the process of everyone
trying to destigmatize sex work, which I think is great, but one reality that just cannot
be avoided is when you're engaging in this type of work. Person to person, it's very dangerous.
Like any person to person job is dangerous.
CC would often bring home clients
because she couldn't afford a second location
and they didn't want to pay for hotels
or if they did, they're like,
okay, then I'm gonna deduct it from what I'm paying you.
So she would bring these clients home.
And oftentimes, they would just brutally assault her
and leave without paying. And now, they would just brutally assault her and leave
without paying. And now that she's acquiring more trauma, she needs more alcohol, more
to kind of calm that pain down. And all the neighbors knew they knew what was going on.
These clients didn't even try to hide it. I mean, they would just hear terrified screams
coming out of that apartment, banging, yelling, threatening.
And then a door would slam shut and then someone stomping away and then the door opens again.
And C.C.'s running, demanding to be paid originally in the beginning.
Some neighbors felt so bad for her that they even gave her money here and there.
But they felt frustrated because things would never changed.
You know, C.C. would keep bringing home, and they would keep assaulting her,
and it just, the neighbors felt like
we're not doing so great either.
You know, which brings the investigators to think,
okay, what if this system deranged client?
I mean, this wouldn't be the first time, right?
Look at everything that happens in the US.
Syrokiller is targeting sex workers
because they're easy targets, They go unnoticed.
And they have confirmation that CC's clients weren't the best law abiding group of civilians
out there. What is some sick, twisted, deranged client had this fantasy that would involve taking
CC's life? So they're like, let's run the DNA.
The investigators run the male fluid DNA that was found on CC's undergarments that were wrapped
around her head.
They also had CCTV footage of a man walking towards
the temple bathroom with the plastic bag in their hand,
which I know what you're thinking.
Okay, that's the easiest way to ID them, right?
But the guy is completely covered up.
I mean, in the video, it just wasn't that useful,
at least right now.
Like to look at that video and then look at all the men
nearby, it's not gonna work.
So the DNA is really everything that they had.
They run it.
Now there's a strong possibility that it's not gonna match to anyone in the system.
That person's not in the system yet.
But it comes back with a hit, a local taxi driver.
The police have so many questions for this guy.
There had been evidence that Cece's head had been frozen before being covered in salt.
Did he try to pickle her?
What was the point in preserving her head?
To not draw suspicion on odor?
But then why leave anonymous notes at a police station three hours away?
And then what about the note in the bag that pointed to the victim's identity?
Was the taxi driver just purely unhinged
like or is there some sort of long game that they're playing.
The taxi driver did not answer any of these questions because he's like, I don't even
know CC was dead.
He's explaining like, you gotta believe me.
I only slept with her a few times.
I was a client.
You can arrest me for that if that's what you want to do, but I didn't murder her.
And that's not me on the CCTV footage because that night, I have proof.
I have witnesses.
I was nowhere near that temple when the bag was placed in the bathroom.
I was working.
The police checked his alibi, and it cleared.
The taxi driver is not the killer.
So then who the hell is the killer?
It all comes back down to a fortune teller.
The investigators are sitting at their desk trying to figure out what the hell is wrong here.
It doesn't make sense.
Someone killed Cece and we've got a ton of neighbors
that know every little thing that's going on
in there, every little mental breakdown that she's had.
They saw it, yet nobody saw anyone suspicious,
like a new man lingering around.
And then it hit them, they're like, okay, all the neighbors.
They know so much about her,
or at least we thought they did, right?
But remember in the beginning when I said
as they're investigating, all the neighbors are like,
CC who?
Oh, they're all that neighbor.
Once they see the picture,
records show that CC legally changed her name to CC. That's not her real name. Well, it neighbor once they see the picture, records show that Cece legally changed her name to Cece.
That's not her real name.
Well, it is now, but maybe like a few months ago,
it wasn't her name.
That's not what everyone in the apartment building
knew her by.
Apparently, Cece had gone to a fortune teller
to ask her about her life.
And in a lot of Asian cultures, the mom's name
or woman's name can determine not only her own fate,
but the fate of her child as well.
And the fortune-teller told her, all your hardships, your divorce, they're all gonna be passed on to your child,
even if you're not with your child right now, unless you change your name.
So Cici went and she changed her name legally. She went from Chen Aihi to Chen Wanting and she told nobody except a
handful of those closest to her but the letter had Chen Wanting on there.
So that means her killer is someone that knew her intimately. It's not a random
client because she never gives her real name to clients. It's someone very, very close
to her, even neighbors didn't even know the new name. Wow, that is a detail that wow.
So maybe a boyfriend, maybe a pimp, right? They go back to investigating and they're asking
around to see if CC had someone close to her that seemed dangerous. And all the neighbors
are like, I mean, I guess this is kind
of random, but she did casually mention quite a few times
that she had to go sleep with her brother to make money.
What?
And the police are like her brother.
Like, why would you not say that?
And they're like her brother fang.
That's what we're calling him.
And then so they're like, why would you not tell us that
when we first asked you about it?
And the neighbors are like,
you know, no, no, no, I just thought
she was saying like brother, like client friend man.
Like, hello brother, you know what I mean?
Hello bro.
I didn't think she was actually talking
about her actual brother.
But then now that you're asking,
oh, is there someone very close to her,
I guess, like that comes to mind.
I mean, these are very big details.
So the police are going back to all the neighbors asking us.
I guess also it's like the brothers maybe like Koreans
to like, Opah.
So you can call someone Opah, but you're actually your
actual brother, you also call them Opah.
It's like that, go go.
Oh yes, yes, but it's not like my biological brother.
It's like just a male that's older than me.
Yes.
Yes.
So they're like, oh, well, I thought she's talking about clients.
And the police are like, OK, what else can you think about?
Like, just think anything, any little detail.
Come on, think.
There were rumors that the brother was a little weird.
That thing had an obsession.
OK, this is what the neighbors are saying.
Some said that he had a journal that he kept about.
An actress named Jeannie, she's a Taiwanese actress,
and even Jeannie came forward after this case broke
to say like, yeah, that actually happened.
So apparently he had a journal that documented his love for her
and he declared himself her husband.
He would send her tissues filled with male bodily fluids,
threatening her if that she filmed any romantic scenes with any other men.
Very bad things would happen to her.
He would even go to her fan meets to try and shake her hand and God knows what else he was trying to do.
But the neighbors are saying, listen, we don't know for sure, okay, it's just a rumor around the block that he's kind of weird. And the police are like, okay, what else?
Like, what else could you have missed because it seems like you missed a lot of things, right?
And one of the neighbor states, and there's the meat grinder.
These days, someone in that apartment unit has been chopping up meat.
Like, you can hear the knife hitting the butcher block.
So it's like someone chopping up a chicken.
Like, a whole chicken. Like, you know, when you're chopping up chicken breasts, you're not going to hear it from the the butcher block. So it's it's like someone chopping up a chicken, like a whole chicken, like you know when you're chopping up chicken breasts, you're not
gonna hear it from the apartment next door. But if I'm there butchering a chicken trying
to get through bone, then you might hear it. We keep hearing it. And then the meat grinder
is just going non-stop at night. But we never assumed it was strange because the brother
thing is a chef. He works with a lot of meat. We just thought his sleep schedule had just shifted to be night time instead of daytime
and like, how are we supposed to know?
So the police are like, okay, when was this?
Around the time that Cece stopped showing up.
So I guess around the time that she disappeared.
The investigators are like, all right then, we're gonna need a whole team here, stat.
If neighbors are suggesting, and the police are theorizing that the brother could have killed
his own sister, that means he would have likely dismembered her ground up her flesh and
what would you do if you're the killer?
Probably dispose of her body parts in a toilet or kitchen sink drain.
We have to check all the septic tanks, sewage systems, we need to check the pipes
to see if CC's DNA is in there. The police also went in to search the unit now, with where
Fang and CC lived, and they found very curious evidence. They found several knives with big
dents on the blades, like someone was dismembering something much bigger than a chicken, they found CZ's DNA found in the inside,
the slow cooker.
The slow cooker?
They found her DNA inside the pots, not on the outside, inside, and I'm sure the DNA
was not like a piece of hair.
Oh my gosh.
They also found her DNA on knives.
The evidence suggests that Fane killed his own sister dismembered
her and then cooked her remains probably so it would be easier to dispose down the trains
or down the toilet. So bear with me, theory is dismembered, meat grinder, cooked, then
flushed in the toilet, right? The cops found nothing in the septic tank or the sewage system or the pipes.
But they found it in the pot.
Yes. And nowhere else in the house.
Oh, so you're saying that he didn't flush it down?
No. That's crazy.
So we don't know. We still don't know to this day what he did.
We just know not down the drains.
So we just know she was cooked and then what happened next.
I mean, the obvious question is, did he consume her?
Did he let others consume her?
We don't know.
So C.C.'s mom, she hadn't been able to get in contact
with C.C. for the past three months.
That's why she filed that missing persons report.
And ever since she found out CC had been murdered, she had not been able to get any sleep.
She had just so many regrets as a mother, one of the biggest being that after all of
her kids had grown up, the whole family moved to a neighboring city to find more opportunities
and work.
Everyone, right?
Except for brother, fang, and daughter, CC.
They stayed behind in their hometown,
and C.C.'s mom would make the trip down to the hometown
every single week just to check up on C.C.
But at least she's like, you know what?
One of my eldest kids, my second son,
is taking care of C.C. looking after her.
She said that C.C. was struggling with her mental health,
so the whole family knew that Feng was,
you know, particularly attentive towards his younger sister.
But towards the end of 2012, C.C. just like dropped off the face of the earth.
She would never respond to text messages, calls nothing.
She also just stopped coming home and Fang is like, I don't know where she is.
They all try searching for her by themselves.
The family does.
They're calling her lingering around the apartment, trying to find friends asking neighbors.
Nobody seen her.
They finally filed a missing persons report.
And the mom, she admitted,
you know, I was worried that something
that happened to my daughter,
but we were more leaning towards the fact that
maybe she met someone new,
maybe she was out drinking.
You know, none of them thought that her head would be found
in a plastic bag left at a temple bathroom,
which speaking of, in a last-ditch effort
to try and solve this case,
the police bring in Cece's mom one more time.
They had already traumatized this poor woman.
She was asked to identify her daughter's remains
and since they didn't want to mess with the evidence too much, she basically had to identify her daughter's remains and since they didn't want to mess with the evidence too much
She basically had to see her daughters had decapitated and covered in salt
She also saw the clothes that were wrapped around her daughter and
She had bought those clothes for her daughter
And so it was really rough the officers said that she was grabbing onto their jacket, shaking them, like bawling
on the ground screaming, tell me what happened, you need to figure out what happened.
I don't know how she's going to cope with son and daughter.
Yeah. It's like a moment where the mom, I think, realized that true evil existed in this
world and her daughter must have come face to face with the devil.
That's the feeling.
So the officer's...
The devil is your son.
Yeah.
How do you even...
It's kind of surprising her reaction later.
So the officers, they hesitantly bring in the mom again and they start asking the questions
about her son's relationship with the daughter.
And I mean, obviously the mom is taking off guard.
She feels like the police are kind of framing it all strange,
which, it be clearly it's not like that.
She's saying, no, my son, Fang, is a good kid
who is helping take care of my younger daughter.
You probably wasn't the best caretaker.
She's still engaged in sex work and did,
and like, yes, I know that's bad,
but we're all doing the best that we can.
The officers finally show her the CCTV footage. This is like March of 2013.
So Taiwan and March is not that cold,
not puffer jacket cold.
He's wearing a puffer jacket, wearing a mask, sunglasses,
and a curly wig, like an edguma wig, an old lady wig, which
just felt so off-putting, right? Very strange. The figure has seen covered up completely,
like they don't want to be recognized. They're holding a black plastic bag and they disappear
near the temple because there's no more CCTV cameras. They walk back out without the plastic bag. So C.C.'s mom takes one look at the footage
and she feels destroyed.
In the span of like a week or two,
she identified her daughter as the brutal murder victim
and her son as the predator and killer of her daughter.
And everyone's just wondering,
why would the brother do this? The theory
is, her brother was her pimp, and things had escalated until he killed her. It speculated
that they themselves had a very twisted relationship. So, Feng would allegedly pimp her out, take
most of the money that she earned, minus the money that she would need to spend on. He
really only allowed it because drugs would be the way to keep her compliant. It would be to keep her in check make her easy to control.
Which is this part is already so sick and twisted, especially between siblings,
but even worse than that, it's suspected that he was simply abusing his own sister.
Their mom would send CC $250 a month, but she would ask her son Feng to take the money first
and then
split it into small payments and give it to CC throughout the month because she was
worried if she gave it to her all at once, it would just go to f**k this right.
And to CC's mom, it appeared like her son Feng was just this nice older brother, but in
reality, he was dangling the money over CC's head to get her to perform some acts for
him, his own sister.
It's speculated that this is just how it started.
For 14 years.
And eventually after 14 years, CCC's not bringing in enough money for fang.
She's becoming a liability.
She's 39 years old at this point. She's been doing
things. She's been in this line of work for the past at least 14 years. I mean, this
would have taken a large toll on her mental health, physical health, and if we're being
very thorough, also on her appearance because you're known to be very, very damaging to,
I guess, appearance, not that that's the biggest thing, but in this line of work, it might matter, you know?
And Feng decides it's time to move on.
He also thinks about his own life.
He's like, you know what, I wanna start a family.
I wanna have a wife and kids,
and I can't do that when there's strange men
in and out of the house,
and my sister is making explicit noises in the room next door,
like, I can't do that.
What would my wife think?
So that's one problem. But another problem is that in China there's something called a dowry.
It's not required by law or anything but it's pretty standard since there are a lot more men than there are women in China to get married. Men have gotten kind of creative and it's also a
tradition, right? Some men will get creative trying to secure a family. They will bring lump sums of cash to the bride's family, shower
the bride with gold, literally gold, gift them luxury items, all these things to
be able to marry the woman that they love, right? Now typically the dowry is
different amongst each marriage and class. It's a lot of money and it typically
it shouldn't bankrupt a man
and his family, right?
So it just depends on how well you're doing financially.
But Feng had just met a woman from Fujan,
on a blind date, anyone's to marry her.
They don't even know each other,
but he's like, you know what, she's nice.
She's willing to move to Taiwan.
The only thing is, you would need to pay $35,000 for a dowry.
What's wild though is that her family didn't even request a dowry. They said actually our daughter
being able to move to Taiwan is enough for us. We think that she'll have more opportunities in Taiwan.
But he's like no, I'm going to get you guys dowry. I'm going to take out a loan and give you a dowry.
get you guys down. I'm going to take out a loan and give you a dowry. So they get married, he does the dowry and she's tying up loose strings, his wife packing our things in
mainland China to move to Taiwan. So after his marriage, he's like, you know what? I need
this is the time to get rid of my sister because there's no other time. Once my wife moves
here, I can't get rid of my sister. It's time for my sister to be useful again.
Fang had worked in the insurance industry before all of this, so he knew a lot about life insurance,
how it worked, how to get paid.
So starting in 2011, this is two years before the murder.
It's a meticulously thought out plan.
Fang starts buying up life insurance policies for his sister, tolling up to a quarter million
dollars, $250,000.
Two years before her death.
Then he killed her, and then he sent the letter.
Now, this is not for his own guilt
that he wants his sister to at least be buried and rest in peace.
No, it was for insurance purposes.
Fang knew that if his sister's death couldn't be confirmed,
and she had only disappeared,
he would have to wait on average 7 years to claim the money.
That is too long.
He needed the authorities to know who this was so that they could confirm her death and
he could get paid $250,000.
That's why he also chose a very public bathroom at a temple to do it so her head would
be found faster.
But he did try to confuse the police with the taxi driver DNA.
So he found underwear, wrapped her in it, right?
And he made sure to kill his sister before his new wife
moved in slowly, disposing of her remains.
So it's assumed that the rest of her body
was dismembered and ground up.
But the only problem was he needed to keep the head
because that's what would give him the life insurance payout. That's the ID
Mm-hmm
And you didn't have time to get rid of the head before his new wife moved in
That's crazy, so the wife doesn't even know that's the sister
No, because she never met the sister but she did hear that the sister had got missing
But the and the wife didn't go to the police.
No.
Yeah.
So, things wife, she goes by Mrs. Lu in the media, but we'll call her Lucy, right?
She's the one from the beginning of this story.
Authorities tracked her down in mainland China and started asking her questions about the
relationship.
And they said at first, she seemed really traumatized and scared.
She like refused to talk.
She kept asking if they were a thousand percent sure if Feng was going to be locked up for good for this.
And when they finally assured her, yes, he cannot touch you, he cannot do anything to you or your family,
then she started telling them the story of how she found a head in their freezer.
She said that she moved to Taiwan looking for a better life
compared to her hometown. That's honestly a pretty big reason why she married him, right?
But when she got there, she realized pretty quickly, okay, it's kind of the same as my hometown.
Like, it's not really so bad, but it's the same as my hometown, same amount of opportunities,
but instead I'm away from my family and friends. Instead, I'm isolated.
So it's just kind of for her personally, she didn't like it.
And now that she had married this guy, she's like, okay, maybe we can find love.
She tries so hard and at first, it was kind of cute.
He's cooking. He's always in the kitchen.
And she thought he always seemed mature.
He had a provider mindset, right?
But then slowly, after she saw the head in the fridge,
and even just a little bit before, there were these little red flags that she would see.
He kept telling her, after the head, that he bought her. He didn't say he married her. He said
he bought her, that she was his and he could return her or do whatever else he wanted with her,
because she belonged to him. He also talked a lot about his little sister and the words that he used made Lucy
very uncomfortable. He would call C.C. quote, not a good thing. Like, he always talked about
how permiscuous she was and how it disgusted him, how she had fallen to drinking and now
she's gone. And Lucy's like, oh, what happened to your sister?
I used to live with her, but now she's missing.
Did you report her missing?
No.
Lucy, you remember trying to bring up CC again and again.
And she's like, okay, if your sister is missing,
like, no matter how much you disagree with her lifestyle,
you still have to report her missing
because that's basic human decency, right?
But Feng refused. He yelled at her to stay out of it, don't stick her nose and where
it doesn't belong and know her place basically. So that, with the head, I mean, she's in Taiwan,
she's got no friends, no one to trust, it felt like Feng would just kill her too if he knew that
she knew about what he did. Even if he suspected that she knew her life was in danger.
So she waited a few weeks to come up with a believable lie that her family member died
and she had to go back for the funeral.
She managed to escape to her family, but she had zero proof of what she saw.
And at that point, she's like, he's probably gotten rid of the head.
Even when she was telling her family about it, some people were looking at her like she
lost her mind.
I mean, there was no way that the police were going to believe her, and if they investigated, without convicting feng,
she would have a big target on her back.
She knows he would have killed her too.
She knows it, even if she never saw the head.
Because now, after learning about all of this, Lucy said,
after moving to Taiwan, he kept bringing her to all these life insurance companies trying to get life insurance on her
And they all said we can't because she's not a permanent resident of Taiwan yet
So she can't have life insurance here. She can have it in mainland China, but not here at least not right now
And she said fang seemed really disappointed
And she's like well, I don't have plans on dying anytime soon. I'm in my 20s
She's only 20s.
Yeah.
And Fang said the aliens made him do it.
Okay, let me explain.
Yeah.
So the police go into a rest Fang, CZ's own biological brother.
And authorities thought this guy is sick and twisted.
We don't know what he's been doing.
He might try to use force.
He might try to fight back and get violent. So blindside him. Sneak up in the apartment building,
kick down the door, slam him up against the walls, handcuff him, and fang did not fight.
He actually went limp like a rag doll. It was odd. And then they heard this like,
trickle, trickle noise, and he had peed himself. So the four officers, they had to carry him out.
He apparently couldn't even walk anymore.
It was a lot.
There was just pee trailing behind him.
But still, being officers, they're thinking,
oh, easy peasy.
This guy's gonna, this guy's gonna confine so quickly, right?
He's got no backbone.
He's already so terrified.
He knows he's screwed.
But when they sit him down in the interrogation room,
it's like he's a different person.
They're like, where was that guy in the car?
Just two seconds ago. He's calm, collected.
He there stayed silent and gave the officers nothing,
or he deflected all the questions.
He even calmly threatened to file complaints against the police for coercion.
To imagine arresting someone, they're peeing themselves
because they're so scared. They've seemingly lost all bodily functions.
But then a minute later, they're in the interrogation room,
smelling of urine, and they're saying,
Officer, you shouldn't ask questions like that.
According to Criminal Code 97.
Yeah, what's up with that?
Yeah.
They think that he was probably putting on a show
when he was arrested.
For what reasons?
To make it seem like he's mentally unwell.
Mm. I see. So ultimately, For what reasons? To make it seem like he's mentally unwell.
Mmm, I see.
So, ultimately...
That's even more sick and twisted.
He peed himself just to...
Faker, whatever.
Wow.
Because before he was arrested, he went to a psychiatrist
and asked them to diagnose him with a mental disorder.
Mmm.
And they were like, do you have a mental disorder?
Ultimately, the prosecutors had a lot going for them, the wife's testimony,
neighbors testimony, the forensic evidence, the CCTV footage.
So I've noticed about the CCTV footage. The police were also able to find more
footage closer to Fang's apartment that showed the same figure. So basically,
they were able to track him, like not completely, but pretty good. Also, the
CCTV shows Fang bringing C.C.'s head to the temple two days before the head
was found, meaning for two full days, locals, tourists, temple goers had used that restroom,
not knowing that there was a head there.
Inside note about this, Fang said that he was anxious after placing the head in the bathroom,
not for the reasons that you would think though.
Like he just killed his sister, disposed of her body in the most horrific way.
Maybe he's scared of guilt, potentially even getting caught.
But no, he said he was anxiously checking the news for two days, because he was worried
that he was terrified.
That they wouldn't know it's her.
No, that someone would just start away without checking.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. He wants to be known, so he can get his money.
Exactly. And he's like, then it would be a headache. I have to wait seven years to get the insurance payout.
So even with all of this out in the open, things like, I'm not going to go down without a fight.
He starts pretending to be insane in the courtroom, waking up and saying the aliens are here.
They've implanted a chip in my brain and the aliens have controlled me.
He would pretend to cry and say the aliens made me kill my sister.
They controlled me to commit these acts and I remember it.
I remember it. I don't want to remember it. They manipulated me.
They want me to end my life so I can't speak the truth.
And the court would be out of session because they're like,
this man is unhinged, go put him in his cell, right?
The minute he gets in his cell, he turns around, he's cool, calm, collected.
And he starts bragging to his cellmates about his murder.
Yeah.
And then the next day he'd be dragged back into court, drooling, collapsing,
showing reports from the psychiatrist that deemed him mentally ill before,
before he was even arrested.
Because remember what I said?
It's like he had this insurance plan
that if he does get arrested, he could just plea in sanity.
He's like, look, I've got all the reports.
Professional examinations after his arrest revealed
a thing to be mentally sound and fit to stand trial.
But Cece's mom and Fang's mom stood by Fang.
She said that it was probably a mental breakdown.
She testified that their family does have a history
of hereditary mental disorders,
and she begged the judge to not give the death penalty
to Fang.
She said, already lost a daughter, please bear my son.
I miss my daughter very much,
but at this point, what else can I do? I hope the judges can forgive Feng and give him another
chance. And she argued her son is a good son. He's never done anything bad before.
That's crazy. I wonder if there's a level of like, um, some versus daughter, you know,
how the traditional view.
In the end, Fang was sentenced April 30th, 2015.
He was facing the death penalty,
but the judges did take his mom's pleas into consideration.
They gave him life imprisonment instead.
And netizens were really confused
on how to feel about this, right?
Some netizens just felt sad.
They said, we feel sad for C.C.,
we feel sad for the mom,
for the situation, and they asked the question,
what parts of C.C. did her brother kill
before he finally killed her physically?
If he had been assaulting her, forcing her to do sex work,
like this was not a fast kill.
He was probably killing her slowly for over a decade.
But other people felt like the mom doesn't know what she's talking about and the courts
should have not have listened to her.
They said, do you think a respectful son, like the mom claims, would kill his own sister
for insurance money?
Others wondered, any mother whose child is so viciously taken from them, they would
hate and despise the killer with all their heart.
But when they realize that the killer is their own son,
do they still hate and despise as much?
I don't know, what do you think of the question?
Leave it in the comments.
I mean, let me know all your thoughts in the comments.
I read most of the comments that I'm always looking down there.
And I'm just very interested in this case
because I imagine the feeling of she's got this intense hatred
for whoever did this to her daughter.
And then to find out it was her son,
does something shift right there?
Does something change?
Does that hatred suddenly dim down?
Like what happens?
Or is it a different kind of pain? Does that hatred suddenly dimmed down? Like what happens?
Or is it a different kind of pain?
Does that hatred turn into sorrow?
I'm not a parent, so it's really hard for me to even imagine.
So parents out there, please leave it in the comments.
But please stay safe, and I will see you guys on Sunday
for the mini-suit.
Bye.
and I will see you guys on Sunday for the mini-suit.
Bye.