Rotten Mango - #69: The Walgreens Killers (Case of Patricia Columbo & Frank Deluca)

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

When you step into this Walgreens it feels like any other - aisles filled with cosmetics, household goods, and a pharmacy. The employees are kind but they’re harboring their own dark secrets.  Th...e woman in cosmetics had inappropriate relations with a German Shepherd and her ex boyfriend refuses to get rid of the incriminating pictures. The store manager has a deadly liking for underage girls.  Another employee is plotting the murder of 3 people.  But is this really more sinister than your local Walgreens?  Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 No, this is not an ad for CVS, okay? This is a real story that takes place in Walgreens. Now, when you walk into this specific location in Chicago, Illinois, you're not going to think it's strange. You're not going to think it's bizarre. I mean, it's got the regular stuff that all Walgreens has. It's got some cosmetics. In the middle, it's got aisles of overpriced household items. You've got a pharmacy in the back.
Starting point is 00:00:56 What's so strange about this one? But when you peel a layer off and you really get to look inside the employee's lives, you start realizing some dark shit is happening. So the lady, for example, she's working the cosmetics department, and she might seem nice, she might seem helpful, but she was actually really stressed. Her ex had taken pictures of her, where a dog, a German shepherd, was performing sexual activities on her.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And he refused to give them back. What is he planning on doing with these pictures? You know is he gonna spread them around? Is he gonna tell her boss? She's got a husband and she's got kids. What does she do now? Now they're even working together at this Walgreens location. The store manager of this Walgreens at first glance he seems like a completely normal guy but you know behind closed doors he had the most bizarre sexual behavior. Usually, the bland part of his sex life were these three sums.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Sometimes there'd be two males and one female. Sometimes there'd be two females and one male. Sometimes it would include underage girls. But a lot of the times, it would include a big German shepherd. There was another employee from first glance, you know. This is getting dark very fast, man. She was known by her other colleagues for wearing these tiny little, I wouldn't even call them mini skirts more like micro skirts to work with these super high heels, but
Starting point is 00:02:15 she also had a secret. She lied on her application. She said she was 18 years old, but in reality she was only 16 years old working the cosmetics department, but not only that, she was also plotting the murder of three people. And she wanted it done before Christmas, because it would be a little present to herself. Now normally when you walk into a walk green like this, you're not going to find out details like this because these stay secret, these are people's personal lives. I'm not involved, but all of their secrets are gonna intertwine in a disastrous way. Three people are going to end up dead and that's why we know all of these secrets. This is gonna be one of the longest trials in Illinois history. I think it's
Starting point is 00:02:57 second to the John Wayne Gacy trial. It's that intensive a case. So we're just gonna jump right into it and it all starts with the Colombo family. So we've got Frank Colombo who's the dad of the family. He's the head of the household and he was Italian. And then we've got Mary Colombo, the wife. Now they had a nice marriage. I mean there was nothing Frank wouldn't do for his wife. He wanted to keep her happy, but she also knew that his word was final. So it almost seems like they have this mutual understanding of he's wearing the pants. She knows exactly, you know, when to push him, when not to push him, and they just had this nice little balance. When they had their first kid, Patricia and Colombo, they thought
Starting point is 00:03:35 she was an angel. They said that she was the most beautiful baby that they had ever seen. I mean, she had this curly hair, these big dark eyes, perfect everything. So Mary, she gives birth and she's like, wow, this is amazing. So after a couple of months, maybe I can hire a nanny, and maybe I can go back to school. I really want to be a nurse. But after Patricia's born, Mr. Columbo is like, absolutely freaking not. I don't think so. You're gonna be a stay-in-home mom, you're gonna cook, you're gonna clean, you're gonna keep the house, you know, pristine, you're gonna raise the baby.
Starting point is 00:04:05 And she knew that there was no arguing. She's like, I'm not even gonna try it. I feel like this is the final word. This is the last straw, I'm not gonna push it. Now, Mr. Colombo was also known for having a wild temper, and he would show it at home in front of his whole family. But it wasn't in the sense of like an abusive dad.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He never took it out on his wife, he never took it out on his kids, but he would be angry at home because of work stuff. Maybe it was a baseball game, but he was never really that, like, wild tempered with his own children. Does that make sense? Yeah. So, like, he'd be screaming profanity at the TV. If that's still creating a lot of tension in the whole house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but at least, you know, I'm like a lot of situations. He wasn't taking
Starting point is 00:04:44 it out on the kids. He wasn't taking it out on the kids He wasn't hurting the kids when it came to the kids and they were doing things that he didn't like if this was work You'd have blown off already like you would have threatened to punch someone but at home He was so patient. He was like that's okay. That's okay Patricia. We can try again tomorrow Right now the apartment that they lived in at first there were not lot of kids. And it was not high on Mary's agenda to let Patty hang out with other kids. So Patty pretty much her life was filled with adults from the get go. I mean, her godparents are full grown adults, her family friends are full grown adults, her parents are adults, she didn't really have any kids in her life.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Even before she went to kindergarten and she didn't seem to mind it, I mean, she loved getting all of the love, of the attention all of the candy There's no other kid to really compete with if she does anything small all of these other adults who have no kids They're like wow this kids are genius because they don't really know you know the baseline for how children grow They're like she can already talk this is insane And so she loved that attention now Uncle Gus was by far her parents favorite babysitter because he owned a red candy bus. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, if you guys didn't watch the... What is it called, a candy bus? It's like an ice cream truck, but a candy truck. But like a bus. And he always smelled like Hershey's bars. So obviously, little Patricia is like, that's my favorite uncle because he's always giving me candy.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Like, he's always got candy. The other uncles are like, oh, I gotta go to the store. Sorry, kiddo, I don't have anything on me. But uncle Gus always has candy. So she starts going on these routes with him anytime that he would babysit. And she would eat candy all day. She would interact with all these other kids, finally for ones who are buying this candy off of his truck.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And that was mainly her only interaction with kids for a really long time. And she, like I said, always played alone until another little girl came around. Now patty was thrilled. Patricia was over the moon. Finally she has a friend. Her name is Paula, but her parents were not happy. Patricia's parents were not happy about this new friend because Paula's family was interesting. The dad was an alcoholic and the mom never looked clean. So Paula in return looked like she was barely washed, she had fingernails
Starting point is 00:06:51 filled with dirt. Patty wasn't even in kindergarten when they start hanging out Patricia. Yeah, Patty's Patricia. And she seemed to be picking up on a lot. So her mom is always whispering. Patty's mom is always whispering to her friends about Paula saying, you don't think my daughter Patricia is gonna catch something from her, right? You think the kids got lies or something? I swear to God, you could plant vegetables in her ears. They're so dirty. Oh my god. Yeah, and so Patricia starts, you know, getting slick with it. She starts picking up this and she's like, well, if I can't hang out with Paula, I'm really gonna have no friends. So every time Paula would come over should say Paula today
Starting point is 00:07:25 We're gonna do nail salon role play. We're gonna have a little nail salon I'm the nail lady and I'm gonna do your nails So she'd be scrubbing the little dart underneath the fingernails But in like a natural way of like Paula. I'm not calling you dirty I'm not saying you've got dirt under your nails. I'm just a nail salon, you know artists That's what I'm doing, But whose Paula is the neighborhood friend? Yeah, just a neighborhood friend. And you know, when Paula would come over,
Starting point is 00:07:49 she'd say, hey, before we asked my mom for cookies, we should just wash our face. Paula would be like, what? She'd be like, I just love washing my face like every hour or so. And she'd be like, come on. And she'd drag her into the bathroom and they'd start washing their face.
Starting point is 00:08:03 A lot of people said that's kind of cool for, you know, not even being in kindergarten. She's picking up on these adult social cues, doing something naturally to, you know, kind of hide away from it. Now, once Patricia gets to school, she was ahead of her class. Now, I wouldn't necessarily that she's smart.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Not by a long shot. I would not even say that she has a high IQ, or that she's, you know, very, very good at social skills. But because as a kid, she's always's very, very good at social skills. But because as a kid, she's always around adults instead of playing with other kids. She picked up on how to use scissors. She knew how to write things a lot faster than these kids in kindergarten. And she starts sitting next to the kids in class who are not doing well to help teach
Starting point is 00:08:38 them. And she would get so frustrated, Patricia would come home from kindergarten and you would think that she came home from work. She would slam her backpack down. She'd be like, I don't know what I'm gonna do with Freddy. Sometimes he just won't even listen. He just won't listen. And her parents are like, what is happening? You're a kindergartener! I don't understand. And they thought that this is perfect because Mary happened to be pregnant with a second child. So they're like, I mean, Patricia's already acting
Starting point is 00:09:05 like the older sibling to all of these kindergarteners. She's gonna be the best older sibling to, you know, whoever we give birth to. And Patricia, she stoked. She told everyone in the family, I can't wait to have a baby sister. Now, there was no confirmation that it was a girl in there,
Starting point is 00:09:21 but she was like, no, no, it's gonna be a baby sister because boys are dirty and they make a mess. So I'm gonna have a baby sister and we're gonna be clean together. And so the whole nine months of Mary's pregnancy, Patty's going around telling everyone who will listen, oh, I'm gonna have a little sister, we're gonna name her Susie, it's gonna be amazing. Everyone on an uncle Gus's candy trips knew that she was about to have a little sister named Susie, you know, she'd be like, did you know I'm having a baby sister? Now, it came as a real shocker when she ended up having a little baby brother named Michael.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And she was really pissed off about this because her dog's name was Michael. And she's like, why would you name? Why would they do that? So her dog's name was Mike. And they named the son Michael and they said, Mike for short. And she's like, but why? That's my dog's name was Mike and they named the son Michael and they said Mike for short and she's like, but why that's my dog And she was incredibly triggered by this. Honestly, I don't know why they did that And she was so pissed off that she went to class in front of everyone and she told everyone my little sister was born And her name is Susie and she's set back down
Starting point is 00:10:21 It's almost like she felt like if I told my class this, maybe it'll become true. Maybe it's all a joke. Because she's in kindergarten. How is she supposed to know that this isn't a joke? Now, Mary Colombo finds out that Patricia has come to go and around telling everybody, I have a little sister named Susie. Now, I don't know if it's the postpartum, but she was unusually pissed. Mary Colombo was so pissed off, she dragged Patricia to the side and said, you're a little freaking liar. Now, Mary Colombo was so pissed off she drags Patricia to the side and said, you're a little freaking liar. Now Mary Colombo told the teacher, you have to make my daughter stand up and admit to her lies in the middle of class. Okay. So Patricia gets up in the front of class and she calls herself a liar. Not only does she tell them the truth of, oh,
Starting point is 00:11:00 I don't have a little baby sister, I actually have a baby brother named Michael, but I am a liar. Which, I mean, I get the truth part on up to it. That's like teaching them good lessons But the liar part. I don't know if I would want my kid to go through that I'd be like just say hey, I felt sad so I said but they were like, but I'm a liar She she was a force to go up there and call herself a liar and patty the whole time She was so ashamed but your chick was home and she's like mom, please don't tell that like I did this at school I told everybody I told all of my like kids that I'm in class with but please don't tell that don't tell anybody else This was a super shameful moment for little Patricia
Starting point is 00:11:35 Now the only person getting her through any of this was Uncle Gus because you would tell her you know It's fine. We should be happy that it's boy. You know, we don't even care it's a boy. We're glad it's a boy, right? Because if it was a girl, she would want to come on these candy trips with us and she would eat more candy than you, and she would want more attention than you, and that's, you don't want that. It's just us against the world. You and me, Patty, right?
Starting point is 00:12:02 And she was thrilled, right? She's like, okay, fine, Uncle Gus, you're the best. So one day she comes home from school and he's parked right in the driveway. So she's like, what's going on? It's not the weekend. And he's like, well, your mom's at the hospital with Michael. So I'm supposed to babysit you. You're going to come on my candy route. It's going to be fun, right? So they start on the route. And afterwards, he parks in the woods. So she's like, what's going on? Like, what are we doing in the woods? I got to go home. And he's like well I thought maybe we could do something different today. I want to show you something. So it goes to the back and in between like the little
Starting point is 00:12:32 shelving of his candy, there's a little bit of like space where you can walk back and forth it's a van, right? And he had rolled out a rug, put a blanket over it and he says come lay down. Look at how cozy this setup is. They're in the middle of the woods. And he says, do you want to take a rest with me? No, she was thinking. I mean, that's a little bit strange. But whatever, I'll take a rest with you. So she lays down with him and her main concern, because she's like seven years old. Is, do I have to go to sleep? Because you know, seven years would say, hey, sleeping. They're like, I don't want to go to sleep with the heck. I'm going to sugar high. I'm like, trying to run around. I don't want to go to sleep. And he's like, no, no, you don't have to go to sleep with the heck. I'm on a sugar high. I'm like trying to run around. I don't want to go to sleep and he's like, no, no, you'll all have to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And so they just laid there and at the time she had no idea what was happening. But we later know that Uncle Gus had started masturbating under the blanket. Like I said, at the time she had no idea what he was doing. Didn't understand it and so she asked, what are you doing? And he said, you know that thing that Michael has down there? Well, I've got one too. Now, Patty, she had a vague understanding. I mean, she's seen Baby Michael naked. She's helped give baths, you know, she was fascinated. This is my little sibling. And she didn't really understand that it's a penis per se, right? But she's like, oh, it's just like a thing that some boys have. I don't have one, but boys have them. That's like how she kind of understood a penis.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And so she's thinking, oh, okay, like that makes sense. She didn't even think there was anything sexual with that statement. She was like, okay, make sense. Make sense, boys have it. And he kept asking her, do you have one? She was like, no, no way. Like you only know that boys have that.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Why would I have that? And he said, well, sometimes little girls start growing them. And she's like, well, sometimes little girls start growing them. And she's like, no, like I don't have it. And he's like, well, I just need to make sure. I need to check. So Uncle Gus molested her. And afterwards, he's just like, well, that was a nice rest.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And they get back into the front. She again has no idea what this, she doesn't realize it's a sexual thing, she doesn't realize that he molested her, she just thought, oh, that was like different, I've never done that before, that was strange, but she didn't think, oh, I should probably tell my parents, right? So she's in the car and he keeps telling her on the way home, like don't tell anyone,
Starting point is 00:14:39 don't tell anyone about our little candy route today, they might get mad at us. Why would they get mad at us, Uncle Gus? And he's like, well, everyone knows that you're my favorite little girl, right? And I'm your favorite uncle, isn't that right? Yeah. And they'll be mad that we like each other so much. You know, um, adults call it jealousy. So all these adults will be jealous that you like me more than them. And they'll be jealous that I like you more than I like Michael and it'll just be like a whole thing. And even if you did tell them, they probably wouldn't believe you. So that part she got confused.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And Patricia was like, what do you mean? Why wouldn't they believe me? We were just resting. And he said, well, they might think that you were lying again, like you lied at school about having a baby sister. Wow. And her face turned so red. She was embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I mean, she was so young, too young to realize that what happened to her was just so horribly disgusting and wrong. Her lying about having a baby sister at school was much more shameful, was much more embarrassing versus what uncle Gus just did to her, not saying that she should feel shame and embarrassed, but he should. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like she was like, this is like, though, oh my God, you're right.
Starting point is 00:15:45 This is the worst thing I've ever done, right? So he reached over and told her, I'm the only one you can trust to keep a promise. I'll always believe you, no matter what, let's tell them nothing. Whatever we do in this candy truck is our little secret. Okay. And so the sexual assaults only escalated. So he would force her to manually stimulate him. He would perform oral sex
Starting point is 00:16:05 on her. He never raped her, but that doesn't really say anything. I mean, and it just kept going. Now Patricia as she gets older, she starts considering multiple times. Oh, should I tell somebody about this? Maybe. I mean, it's like this feeling of she knew something was weird in her heart. She felt like a heavy secret. Imagine being eight and you've got this ginormous secret that you can't tell anyone. Eight-year-olds can't keep a secret for their entire lives, right? So she's like, maybe, maybe I just tell an adult and they can confirm with me that this is completely normal. So that I can stop feeling so strange. But she thought, if I tell my dad,
Starting point is 00:16:38 my dad, he's got a short temper. He's probably going to beat up Uncle Gus. I don't know why, but he probably would. That's just what he does. He gets mad at other adults and he beats them up. Things might get violent. But if I tell my mom, she's just gonna say, oh, you just don't want to go on these candy routes, shame on you for saying such an awful thing about your Uncle Gus, you know. My godfather, his name was Phil Capone. These are really Italian names, I like it a lot. They just sound really cool, okay? He's not that buff. He's just like a big teddy bear. He's just like a big, likable Italian man.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He's not a knight in shining armor. He's not gonna save me from my other uncle, right? So she always backed out because she was a fright. She just never told anyone. So she has a vague idea. This is probably wrong. Yeah, as time passes, not necessarily like, oh, this is like, um, you know, sexual assault, he's molesting me. But more in the sense of like,
Starting point is 00:17:30 why can't I tell someone? It feels like heavy on me. I just want to say something. Okay. And so by the time Patricia turns 10 years old, Frank and Mary Colombo, they decide it's time. We're going to buy a beautiful house in the suburbs. Business was doing really well at this point. They found a nice little community. They would finally have this grassy backyard for their kids to play in. There was local parks. Each kid would have their own room. I mean, it was going to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:55 The main happiness that Patricia felt is that she wasn't going to see Uncle Gus anymore. Wow. So she was thrilled because this is like way out of town. This wouldn't make sense for him to babysit her. Being as young as she was, she just kind of put all of this sexual abuse away. She compartmentalized it, she forgot about it, and she actually wouldn't remember any of this until much later. So she almost forgot that it happened.
Starting point is 00:18:21 She had this very vague feeling about it, she just didn't want to think about it. And another problem started developing inside the Colombo House. Patricia had always been the princess of her dad's eyes, but now Michael was the only son. And he's starting to talk, he's starting to walk, and he's getting a lot of attention. You know, the parents were like, this is my only son. There was some of that only son syndrome happening. And she was upset. A lot of people said that Patricia was very affectionate with Michael, but at the same time Seemed kind of resentful and jealous, but is that a red flag now because they're kids So they got through elementary school middle school like this and once they reach high school I mean the family was raising a couple of eyebrows. All of the neighbors said the Columbus
Starting point is 00:18:59 Amazing people amazing people the parents are amazing. They've got beautiful kids They're always courteous. Yeah,ombo has a little bit of a short temper but he's just always a gracious person, that's what everyone thought about him, the only thing that was strange is that everyone around the house would just kind of walk around in their underpants, so Mr. Colombo and Michael would run around in their boxers, now boxers they have like that hole where if you like run around too much I guess maybe something pops out. I don't know, right? It's just a little bit weird. That's what people said. It's just a little bit strange. Patricia, she's like 15 years old and she would just lounge around in these nightgowns and she had started developing
Starting point is 00:19:35 at a really young age. So people would tell Mary Colombo they would pull her aside and they'd be like, Hey, mom to mom, is that your daughter getting a little bit old? She's 15. Yeah. And so, you know, they're mom to mom. They'd be like hey mom to mom Isn't your daughter getting a little bit old? She's 15. Yeah, and so you know they mom to mom they'd be like hey Mary isn't isn't Patricia getting a little bit too old to show off everything she's got like that like you don't think it's a little bit weird when we come over And you guys are like oh, let's just go get dressed and the whole family like marches upstairs and they're underpants to get dressed like You know, they look a little weird and And Mary told Frank, she was like, this is what my friend said today. And he was just pissed.
Starting point is 00:20:08 She was like, that's disgusting. Too old, she's a kid for Christ's sake. So for them, it was completely innocent. Like, there was nothing weird about it, if that makes sense. Like, he genuinely just saw Patricia Colombo his daughter as just a child, even at 15, which I'm sure a lot of dads can relate to. I feel like I'm 25 and my dad is like, she's at age that she probably isn't learning a lot just being around her parents and friends, right? So I mean, starts off really innocent, right? So by the time the Patricia was 15 or 16, Angle Gus was completely out of her life.
Starting point is 00:20:45 She had her very first relationship with a high school boy named Jack. Oh God, it was amazing. They went into the woods, he parked the car, they made out. Now, the whole making out thing, she said it was underwhelming, he was not that good. She was so excited. She was so excited to make out with him,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but overall, not a great performer, the Jack Kid, but most high school boys aren't, and he cheated on her. She saw him at the mall with another girl. Ultimate heartbreak, okay? This is life-shattering stuff. So she's one month away from her 16th birthday. She had broken up with her high school boyfriend. He had cheated on her.
Starting point is 00:21:23 All of her other friends, they've got boyfriends. They go on double dates, triple dates, and what is she gonna do? Go alone? No, that's embarrassing. So she goes to her guidance counselor and she says, hey, is there anything else I can do around school? Like, because she always loved being proactive and part of the community, is there something I can do? So they tell her, well, we have this work program. You could earn credits by working under the school work program Your poise your well-mannered you're well-spoken, you know, you're very mature for your age We have an opening at a local sandwich shop. It's the one It's called corkies. It's the one at the Walgreens next to the Walgreens at the Grove shopping center Do you know which one I'm talking about? Just like oh, yeah, that little cute little sandwich shop
Starting point is 00:22:04 I love working there. So the schedule would be that after school Monday through Friday, she would work at the sandwich shop for three hours after school. And then on Saturdays, she would work a full eight hour shift. And she really liked the experience, meeting the customers. Her uniform was super cute. She had this red apron, made her dark eyes and her dark curly hair stand out. Her boss was like this chill older lady in her 40s. They got along well. Her parents were not happy about this job set up, but Michael was stoked. The little brother was like a free sandwiches. Are you freaking kidding me? I'm gonna come over every single day to get free sandwiches. So a couple weeks into this, this
Starting point is 00:22:39 man walks into the sandwich shop. And Patricia drops the tuna sandwich that she was working on, because she was like, this is by far the hottest guy I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh my God, who is this man? I'm sorry, what? So this man had thick black hair. He was, you know, conventionally handsome. That's what people said.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Yet these dark, dark eyes that made him look almost mysterious. And Patricia was head over heels at first sight. So she starts asking around. She's like, who's that? Who's that guy? And everyone's like, oh, that's the new manager, the Walgreensx door. Yeah, I think it works in the pharmacy too.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He just transferred here. His name is Frank Deluca. And she's like, another Frank? Yeah, that's why I was saying Mr. Columbo the whole time because yeah It's very interesting. Um, the two Franks are both Italian. They are both named Frank and they're both around the same age So he's same age as her dad. Yeah as Frank Columbo is around the same age as Frank Deluca And so he walks in and you know, she's like wow He's handsome Frank Deluca and pat Patty was so thrilled by his last name
Starting point is 00:23:47 Because she was like Deluca. He's probably Italian. I'm half Italian. My last name's Colombo Which means we're probably gonna bond over something like I can casually ask him first name and casually drop the fact that I To and half Italian and it'll just be like love at first sight We'll just start dating immediately and we'll go to Italy together. I don't know, she was just having these thoughts. So he starts coming in every single day for coffee. If he skips a break, if he happens to not come in for coffee,
Starting point is 00:24:15 she would make an excuse to go to Walgreens. She would pretend to be shopping, maybe for her birthday card, maybe for some lipstick and she would just snoop on him the whole time. And when I tell you, it was obvious, she she's 16 I did this when I was 16 I mean not stock Walgreens managers but like you know you like want to be in the area where the guy that you like is and it's so obvious what you think that you're being slick you're like oh no no I I always come to the gym no I come here every day
Starting point is 00:24:43 what are you talking about? And so she starts snooping on him. Every single day at work, she would just stare at his table. She started coming with her hair completely done. She would refresh her makeup prior to all of his break times and they finally started talking. Now, he claimed to be 28 years old, which was a lie. Frank Deluca was a liar. He was actually 36 years old. And Patty lied and said that she was 18, but she was actually turning 16 in a month. Wow. So, the next thing that she noticed while they're talking is that, well, of course, he's
Starting point is 00:25:16 Italian, he works at Walgreens, he graduated from Purdue, he played football, he loves skydiving, what a macho man. But one thing was that on his left hand, he was missing a full index finger and the tip of his middle finger. Wow, okay. And she was like, what happened? Did something happen? I lost it in a skydiving incident. And she thought this was delightful. He was like, my parachute wouldn't open. I pulled the ring to open the safety shoot and one of the cords it just wrapped around my finger and the pressure of the parachute just took off my finger clean. Oh my god. She's like, what? A man? You know, these high
Starting point is 00:25:57 school kids, they like lose a pencil and they'll be crying. But this right here, this is a real man. He goes parachuting, okay? This is, that takes balls. She was like head over heels. I mean, this, this was like, oh, at her moment. So Frank starts calling her Patrish, and she loves that even more. She was like, oh my god, yes, I'm Patrish now.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And he starts stopping by way more often than he has breaks. I mean, is he getting paid to drink coffee at a quirky use? I don't know. She would stop at Walgreens. Eventually, it got to the point where they were interacting six to eight times a day, every single day. That is way too often. Even the sight of him talking to another girl made Patricia insanely jealous.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Even a customer. So one day she sees him walking in a attractive, dark-haired woman to her car and kissing her on the cheek. So she's like, I'm going to confront him about it. Oh, that's not okay. So he sits down with his coffee and she's like, so I'm assuming the woman that you kiss goodbye, she's just another customer too. Like she's just doing the most, right? And he says, no, she's a special customer. She gets even more pits. She's like, oh, a special customer. So, okay, well how many special customers do you have? Why am I getting heated? Do you work at Walgreenser? I'm only getting mad.
Starting point is 00:27:17 She's like, well how many special customers do you have? Oh, it's just that one. Why is she so special? Oh, it's just that one. Why is she so special? Because she's my little sister and so suddenly Patricia was incredibly embarrassed because that is just She's like a movie plot. Exactly and you know She's trying so hard to act mature and you know say that she's jealous without saying that she's jealous But it's coming off very childish and he's like oh that's my freaking sister. So of course she's incredibly embarrassed. Whenever he came into the shop she could be making a tuna sandwich. She would just throw it at another employee and just go and start wiping his table. Just casually starts talking to him. Just wanted to be around him, talk to him. After about a month of this, he offers her a job at Walgreens. He says I'm looking for a part-time
Starting point is 00:28:06 cosmetic employee. Why don't you come and work for me? Now I guess maybe it was him. Maybe it was Walgreens at the time, but they didn't do any background checks, I guess, because he didn't even ask for her ID. She just filled out the application, changed the year of her birth, you know, and was like, yeah, I'm 18. I feel like he already knew that she was under age and just let it slip because it just boggles my mind. I don't think Walgreens as a corporation would let this pass. I mean, just asking like if you're well-great are you in high school, wouldn't I just give you an idea, right? I mean, yeah, but she liked that too, so that she was a senior graduating. Okay. But I mean, I feel like he could
Starting point is 00:28:42 probably tell. I feel like he wouldn't even care. Yeah. He probably just did it for like legal reasons. Like you're 18, okay cool. I don't really care. Yeah. You know, I'm not gonna snoop even harder. But he didn't even ask for her ID. She was stressed about this.
Starting point is 00:28:56 She was like, should I get a fake ID to show him? But he never asked for it. So immediately, Patricia is working at this Walgreens part-time cosmetics and she is super serious about her new career Not because she's thinking this is the way to set myself up I'm 16 and I got a job at Walgreens. Are you kidding? I can work my way up into corporate one day No, because she thought maybe one day Frank will figure out her real age But hopefully by then she's gonna be too valuable of an employee that he can't fire her
Starting point is 00:29:21 She'll just be too much of an asset to Walgreens So she's like studying all the lipsticks, just doing all of that, and one day she's about to walk home, and he says, hey, um, why don't I give you a ride home? So she's like, okay, gets into the car, and he drives her to that same wooded area that her high school boyfriend Jack took her. And she was initially so disappointed, because she thought this was a high school boy thing. I thought these older men in their late 20s, they would take me to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:29:52 a fancy place, a fancy apartment. But again, the woods, what the fork. And they had sex. I want to say he raped her, because she's underage, but they had sex and this would happen multiple times throughout the next week or so. And then he decided I don't really like having sex in my car. We need to do it somewhere else where there's a bed. So she's like obviously not my place, because I live with my parents, but you're a place. You're like, what? 28? Liar, 36. 28 years old, you must have your own apartment.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Let's go there. And he's like, I don't know. My sister lives with me. And she's really old fashioned. And she probably wouldn't like this. Why don't we go to a motel? So they start having sex at a motel together. And the sex increasingly became very vulgar. So at first, it was very romantic, quote-unquote romantic. It's still assault. But at first it was more like love based and then it became like, he would say things like get on your hands and knees like a dog, which becomes very strange afterwards when we get more details about this German shepherd. And Patricia pretty much just did whatever and everything that Frank had asked. Now for Frank, this is the perfect situation.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Because you know in reality he's 36 and he's thinking to himself, and this is why, if you're under age, if you're in high school listening to this, you really have to be careful about people who, like, especially older people who tell you, you're so mature for your age, right? So, Frank 36, he's meeting other 30-year-old women, 35-year-old women, and these women have experienced life and they know exactly what they want. They say, oh, these are my limits, this is what I'm comfortable with, this is what I like to do in bed, right? With Patricia,
Starting point is 00:31:29 Frank felt like she was a blank canvas. She had no idea anything about sex, so anything that he said was normal, Patricia just takes it at face value. Oh yeah, like everybody does this. Oh, this is what sex is. So this is like he's molding her sexually to do whatever he pleases, which he probably would have a difficult time doing with someone his age. Yeah. So he's having the time of his life, disgusting. And Patricia starts wearing even shorter skirts, wearing even higher heels to even work, school everywhere, starts wearing these low-cut plows. A lot of people were looking at her strange. This really alienated Patricia because a lot of the high school girls didn't want to be her
Starting point is 00:32:09 friend. They were like, why do you dress like that? My parents would not be okay if I'm friends with you. Boys in high school, they were all over her, of course. But she felt like they were too immature. So once Frank had all of the different variations of sex that he wanted with Patricia, he wanted more. So he started inviting men over to party with him and wanted Patricia to have sex with these strange men. Now, this is really problematic because these strange men had no idea that she was on rage.
Starting point is 00:32:38 They were told that she's 18 by Patricia, by Frank, and Frank would take pictures of all of this the entire time. Frank was known for like having boxes and boxes of polaroids of all of his sexual escapades, and it was just really intense. Now Patricia did not like this. She was down for everything else. She said okay, like okay to this, okay to that, I just want to make Frank happy, but for this, she just wanted it to be them. That's their relationship Like why can't I just be you and me just the two of us right and anytime she would bring this up You would say you just don't understand because you're not trying to understand. Oh just grow up Patricia
Starting point is 00:33:16 This is what adults do So to a 16 year old. I mean when I was 16 if anyone told me stop acting like a kid That was like the biggest slap in the face because when you're 16 you think you know life you're like no, I'm an adult excuse you Right so she's just okay. He's right. I gotta go with this because I can't be a kid I gotta be mature and then a new woman gets hired at Walgreens the beauty counter now. Let's call her Janice Janice was the replacement for a woman who had just left. She had transferred from a different location and she was beautiful. I mean she had this blonde hair. All of the guys in the store would turn to watch her whenever she moved around like customers,
Starting point is 00:33:55 fellow employees, and of course Patricia was pissed. She was like, why is this hot lady working in cosmetics now? I'm supposed to be the only hot lady in cosmetics. So she goes up to a friend and is like, who's that girl? Why'd you hire her? Why would you hire someone who looks like that? Why didn't you hire somebody else? Why can't we get Connie back? The girl that just left. I liked her. Why'd you fire her? Then she finds out that Janice is his ex-girlfriend. And he's like, well, I tried. I listened Patricia. I tried to convince her to transfer somewhere else, but she has a long history working for Walgreens, and she insisted to corporate that she wanted
Starting point is 00:34:31 to work at this location. I'm just worried. Patricia, I'm worried, OK? I think that she's going to try to do something funny. She was so upset when I broke up with her. I told her it's done. It's over. I'm moving on to bigger and better people, you know, you.
Starting point is 00:34:46 But she was just so mad. I feel like she's here to ruin my career. Please don't get closer. I feel like she's gonna try to get close to you because she probably wants to know some information so she can tell corporate. And if she even finds out that we're dating, oh my god, it's gonna be so bad.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Because I'm not supposed to date my employees. You get it, right, Patricia? Please just listen to me. Can you only talk to Janice about the work, like nothing else? I just don't want her to hurt us. Now, Janice was so much older. She treated Patricia like a trainee the whole time that she's there. She's just like, oh yeah, do this. I just didn't treat her with the respect that Patricia felt like she deserved being the store manager's girlfriend or you know, secret girlfriend at the time. She was just irked by this. Patricia on so many different occasions was so close to just telling her the truth. I'm dating your ex-boyfriend that you're still obsessed with and he's the store manager.
Starting point is 00:35:37 He haha. SMD. Like she was so, she was just right on the edge of that every single day. She just had to work with Janice the whole time. And so one day, they're working in cosmetics, stalking the shelves, and Frank's sister comes to visit Frank, right? So she walks through the door, and Janice is like,
Starting point is 00:35:52 oh, well, there's Mrs. Deluca. And she's like, oh, you mean Mrs. Deluca? Is she married? Miss Mrs. Deluca. What do you mean? That's a sister. Miss Deluca. What?
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Starting point is 00:38:19 And the mother of his five children, did you know you had five kids? Wow. What? He doesn't look old enough to have five kids. What does he like 28? That's what he told her at quirky's, right? What does he like 28? What? You think so? God, he's like 35. Now he's not 28. And so Patricia, I mean, her life is just crumbling around her. This is, this is the ultimate betrayal. Patricia this entire time, she had dreams of being this power couple.
Starting point is 00:38:51 They were gonna get married. They're gonna have this nice house in the suburbs run this wall, greens at the Grove Shopping Center. Are you kidding me? Maybe she'll get promoted a full time. She had all of these thoughts and dreams and fantasies. And now she's finding out that her boyfriend is not 28, but is 36, has a wife and 5 children?
Starting point is 00:39:12 This is like the worst case scenario! So later that night she confronts him in the motel room, and she was so angry, she said that she wanted to slap him across the face, but Frank DeLuga is not the type of guy that you slap, because he would punch you right back. So she just felt it in her heart. I probably shouldn't slap this guy. So in that motel room, he gives her a volume to calm her nerves, like a little, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:37 pill, stole it from the pharmacy, and he tells her everything that every married man who's cheating on their wife and their kids and their family says, we got married too fast, we had kids too fast, we were so young when we got married, now we're in this loveless relationship, I'm just saying for the kids, I just love my kids, I don't love my wife, I'm just here to support them financially, I'm just like a beautiful husband, I just can't seem to divorce her because she will have nobody, she doesn't even have a job, I'm just being a nice person, I haven't even had sex with her in so long. She's also evil and so mean
Starting point is 00:40:09 and all she does is like nag me all the time. You're the true love of my life. Patricia that I just met a month ago and hired. Not not my wife and the mother of my five children. And of course she's 17 and I know women who are like in their 30s that eat this shit up. And she's like, you're right. It probably is so hard for you to be in a loveless marriage. You're so amazing for sticking it out for your kids. So they have makeup sex. And Patricia, she was just wanted to release that last bit of anger. So as they're laying in this motel bedroom, after they do it, after she realizes he has like this secret double life,
Starting point is 00:40:48 she tells him, by the way, when we first started doing it, I was only 15 years old turning 16. So you're lucky that I love you because I won't tell anyone. And what was his reaction? Just silence. And acted like he didn't hear it, he just moved on. What?
Starting point is 00:41:07 So it was her being like, yeah, you better mean what you said. You better mean that you really love me because I could put you in jail. I mean, this whole relationship is really alarming just to add even more context. Frank Deluca was pretty much, I think there was only a three-year difference between Frank Colombo, Patricia Stadd and Frank Deluca was pretty much, I think there was only a three year difference between Frank Colombo, Patricia's dad, and Frank Deluca. Frank Deluca also had a daughter that was the same age as Michael, her younger brother. This is a weird, this is a very strange setup. Now, Patricia immediately, when she finds all of this out, she wants to leave the house.
Starting point is 00:41:40 In a few months, she's going to turn 18 years old, all she needs is money. There's so much pressure around the house now. Her parents are constantly on her about this and that and why are you wearing that? Why are you doing this? She just wants to be free. That's what most 18 year olds feel. She wants to drop out of high school,
Starting point is 00:41:53 start working full time at Walgreens, save up money, get her own apartment. This was the path that she was headed on. But then there was a change of plans. So the guy that she had a three sum with, right? Where Frank Deluga was just taking pictures of her with this man, this strange man when she was 16 years old, he walks into that wall green and she's like, oh, hey, like, remember that night? Like, we partied. Hey, and he was like, oh, hey, nods at her and walks straight up to Janice
Starting point is 00:42:19 and they start hugging us. If they're just old, long time friends. And Patricia, this shattered her world again. Because she knew that Janice had dated Frank DeLuca, but she didn't know that they did everything together too. She thought that she was special. Patricia thought, oh, we have these parties with extra guys because I'm special. Our relationship is special. He said that he wants me to experience the world because that strengthens our love. But he did this with Janice too.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He did this with everyone. So my relationship with him and my sex life with him is not special. So she starts having a bit of a crisis. She just wants to get away from everyone. She said that was the feeling. She wants to get away from her house because her dad is nagging her. Her mom is always on her about all these short skirts. Her brother is getting to that age where she's getting a little bit caddy and a little bit annoying, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And then at school, she hates school, doesn't do well anymore, and all of these kids are too immature for her. This wall green, she found out that Frank has a wife and five children, and Janice is always there reminding her that Frank had other people before her, and she just wants to get away from all of this So she goes to Frank and asks for the master key to the lockers She forgot her code needs the master key needs to open up her employee locker to get her wallet So he gives it to her and she goes by herself and instead of opening her locker She opens two of her co-workers lockers and steals their wallets. Now, this is a really dumb crime,
Starting point is 00:43:45 and I think that she probably was doing this as like attention-seeking in terms of not attention-seeking. I feel like that's always has a bad connotation, but in this sense of she was crying out for help. Because this locker room has security cameras. So, I mean, these people are gonna notice that their wallet is missing. They're gonna say, well, I had it when I got here,
Starting point is 00:44:05 or I had it during lunch. You know, let's check the tapes. So she know damn well that this is gonna be fun now. Yes, and she immediately goes on a shopping spree for days. At a local mall, would buy lingerie, dresses, wigs, makeup, I mean, used so much of their credit card, wrote personal checks, would even wear these items to the store where her coworkers were working. So like imagine you have credit card wrote personal checks would even wear these items to the store where her co-workers were working.
Starting point is 00:44:25 So like imagine you have credit card fraud. You're going to say, what are the buy a target and you're going to see a sun dress and you lost your wallet at work. Your co-workers walking in with a new target sun dress. You'd be like, huh, let me just think for a moment. Let me just put two and two together. So I think this is again, while a lot of people thought that this was a cry for help. Because it just seemed even if you're, you know, about to be 18 years old, you're old enough to know that this is dumb.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You're old enough to know you're gonna get caught. And eventually she was caught by not only the Walgreens cameras, but also the mall security cameras. They had identified, oh, she's using that credit card. This is the person who purchased all of these things and it happened to be Patricia Colombo. So of course, Frank was in trouble for not supervising her with her master key usage and she was fired. Not only was she fired, but Patricia was arrested. Now, the Colombo family, they were pissed, but they had this drive that kicked in.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Where they were so pissed off at her, but they were more pissed off that something was happening to their little princess. They just wanted to protect her, so they bail her out immediately. They start paying off all of the thousands of dollars that she spent, and they start calling the two co-workers. Please, drop your charges. Please, please, please. And both of them refused. They said, we won't, unless you promise to get Patricia some help.
Starting point is 00:45:43 This is a cry for help, we think. I mean, she's something's wrong with your daughter. She's a liar. Like, we've been working with her and something seriously wrong with her. One time she walked in and she was wearing these overalls. And I told her, that's beautiful, Patricia. Like, you're usually wearing like the shorter skirts, but while you look so much younger, you look so fresh,
Starting point is 00:46:03 you look so good today. I love your overalls But you just said oh, I made it myself What? You did Yeah, I sewed everything together. I designed it. I made it myself. Thank you So they're like wow, if you made it yourself. I mean you could be a fashion designer, right? So they later see her overalls hanging in the locker room. And they look at it because they're like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I mean, how does a young kid like her, you know, working out wall grains going to school, sew something like this. And it was just from a generic department store. So they're like, that's such a bizarre lie. So they tell the parents, listen, Mr. and Mrs. Colombo, you need to get help for your daughter. She's a little bit bizarre, something seriously wrong with her.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And they just denied it. They said, we're not getting her. You mean like a shrink, like a head doctor is what they called it? No way. We're not doing that. And so Patty gets that on bail. She's at home, and she doesn't know what to do with herself. Obviously, her parents are watching her every single move.
Starting point is 00:47:02 She got fired from Walgreens. She can't even save up enough money to move out, and that is when Frank Deluca comes in, night in shining armor, I've got the solution for you, babe, and he says, why don't you stay with me in my house, with my wife and my five kids? I haven't told my wife everything. So Frank Deluca, his wife knew about the affair, and the way that she felt was we have five kids, we're married, he's just going through a phase. She felt like he's just gonna have some affairs,
Starting point is 00:47:36 and then he's gonna get sick of these girls, and then he's gonna realize that the most important thing in his life is the kids, it's me, it's the kids, it's our family, and he's going to come around. I just need to let him live that life real quick, because it's not worth leaving him, it's not worth losing the house, you know, she was a stay-at-home mom of five children, it's not worth losing the house, it's not worth fighting, I just need to let him live that life for a brief couple of years.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Just need to be on standby. So the wife decides, okay fine, Patricia, your mistress can move in on a couple of conditions. When you're going to be around the house more, you guys can't sneak off to motels or anything. You guys can't do it anywhere inside the house. I don't care if you go in the car and go park in the woods. You are not allowed to do it inside of our family home with the kids home, with me home. I don't care if you go in the car and go park in the woods, you are not allowed to do it inside of our family home with the kids home with me home. I don't care if we're not home, not in the family house. And we're going to tell all of our neighbors, we're going to tell all of our friends that she's just this troubled teen and we're taking
Starting point is 00:48:37 her in because we're such good parents. She was a former employee and she's just going through a lot. Her parents are evil. That's what we're going to tell our neighbors. So Frank had it down. Frank tells Patricia all of this and she's like, okay, sounds good. She packs a ball of her bags and she moves in with the Deluca family. Now when she meets Mrs. Deluca, she says that the whole vibe was, she didn't treat her badly. She also didn't treat her kindly. Just very passive. Almost, you know, with the attitude of this too, she'll pass. Like, you're not gonna be around long.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I'm not gonna get to know you. Like, that type of vibe was, you know, what she was getting. The kids were either confused. Why is Daddy's coworker living here? Some of the older ones felt a lot of animosity towards Patricia because maybe they were catching on. Or maybe they felt like, oh, my mom looks uncomfortable. So this is a threat to our family unit. What the a fork is going, imagine those poor kids with the heck.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And they're similar age. Yeah, which makes it even more bizarre. Exactly. And so, I mean, Frank DeLuca's entire life might I add, he thought that he was God's gift to all women, to women kind. What a mentality to have, you know? Yeah. You know how like some people are like, well, who's your idol? A lot of girls are like, maybe it's Michelle Obama. Maybe it's this person, right?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Now Frank Deluca was convinced it was him to just all women around the world. God's gift to womanhood with him. Thought he was the best thing that ever happened to woman because of how good at sex he was. And he was obsessed with sex in a way that made all women around his life other than the ones that he dated incredibly uncomfortable and incredibly grossed out.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Everything was like a strange innuendo to sex. Now, I make a lot of sex jokes, you know, because I'm five, I'm immature, but he would do it in settings that are professional. He would do it with not his close friends. Like, it's just bizarre. He was that type of guy. So she starts moving in and she thought, okay, now,
Starting point is 00:50:37 now Patricia starts seeing that the appeal of Frank Taluca is wearing off. Because outside the house, that Walgreens, he's the boss. You know, he's got his own car. Wow, what the heck? He's this man. But inside the house, he's just kind of lazy and it shows. Just lays around.
Starting point is 00:50:55 He's not that good of a dad. His house is messy anywhere. He goes. It's messy. He's not that good of a husband. And Patricia is just like, wow, do I even really like this guy? So eventually she goes back to our parents and just says please can I move out of the dilucas and her parents were so thrilled They were like yes of course are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:51:15 We thought it was so bizarre that you were living there. What do you need? Do you want to move back home? And she says no dad? I still want to be a grown adult. I'm 18 now. I want to be, I want to have my own apartment. Can you just help me get it set up? Can you just pay for my rent? And I can get a job and I can pay for my utilities and pay for my food. Please. So the parents lay thought anything, anything to get her out of the deluca so they get her
Starting point is 00:51:38 an apartment. Now it seems like the parents had an idea that they were dating but it wasn't full on yet. They just thought it was strange. They didn't know that they were seeing each other, especially because the wife and kids were there. They thought, there's no way, right? There's no way if you would bring your mistress into your house, right? So that was kind of like the inkling. Now, everyone was happy about this move. Mrs. Deluca, the kids, you know, Mr. and Mrs. Colombo, even Patricia, but Frank was so upset. He said,
Starting point is 00:52:02 what do you mean you're moving out? And he told her the last words. You know what, Patricia? You're going to find out that it's not easy in the world. OK? What are you going to do if you get in trouble? And I'm just not there. What are you going to do? So she moves into her apartment.
Starting point is 00:52:17 She had this brief period where she was dating a guy in med school. Wonderful guy, actually. Like a really nice guy. He had a great future. Introduced him to her parents. Her parents loved him. His name was Andrew. But he was like just amazing. This is the guy that she should be marrying. This is the guy that she should be spending her time with. He's gonna be, he's gonna be a pediatrician. They like loved him.
Starting point is 00:52:40 But then she gets a knock on the apartment door and it's Frank DeLuca. She opens it up and she's like, come on Patricia, you're mature. You're not gonna hide from your ex boyfriend. You're gonna say no straight to his face, just as I've moved on. He says, but I left my wife in kids, I'm filing for divorce because you're the love of my life. Please let me stay here. life. Please let me stay here. And she does. And Frank DeLuca has now officially moved in with Patricia. And Patricia was ecstatic because she was like maybe we are soulmates after all. I never thought that he was going to leave his wife and kids for me, but he is. And Frank DeLuca was ecstatic and he would constantly tell Patricia, it's so nice here. After work, I was so sick and he would constantly tell Patricia it's so nice here after work I was so sick and tired of going home with all it's like a zoo in that house with five kids
Starting point is 00:53:29 This is a dad saying this He's like it's a zoo in that house with all those kids so finally Patricia now with her renowned sense of adulthood she decides I'm gonna be an adult and I'm gonna introduce you to my parents just straight up I'm gonna tell them the truth. We're gonna sit down. We're gonna have this nice little lunch. Now that you're getting divorced, they're gonna be ecstatic to meet you. So of course they meet and the parents are beyond pissed. I mean, he's practically the same age as Mr. Columbo. She would have five step children. A few of them are the same age as even her own younger brother. She would never have things of her own. I mean, they're not even thinking of it as just age,
Starting point is 00:54:06 but if he has this job, he's making this much money. He has five kids and a wife that he's paying alimony for. You're not gonna have your own house. You're never gonna have your own car. You're just gonna be supporting these kids that aren't even yours for the rest of your life. You're probably not even gonna have your own kids. Patricia, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And she says, well, here's where I get even crazy our mom and dad. We're getting married next year. We're planning for a June wedding. I will be 20 years old and he will be 38. And the Columbus kicked them out. They were like, I can't even talk to you. I don't even know what's wrong with our Taught her that she was a perfect angel
Starting point is 00:54:47 What happened? So meanwhile at the apartment the sex life between the couple is getting more intense more strange men more pictures If she didn't want to do it, he would give her a valium that he would sneak from work eventually They got a German shepherd by the name of Duke And she did not have sex with this dog compared to his ex-girlfriend that also worked out well-greens. There was sex acts performed, but she did get naked and take a bunch of pictures that looked like he was on top of her.
Starting point is 00:55:16 This German Shepherd was on top of her. And it was just a lot. So this is happening for weeks. And afterwards, Mr. Columbus coming around, he's thinking, I got to do something about this relationship. I can't afterwards, you know, Mr. Columbus coming around. He's thinking I gotta do something about this relationship I can't keep paying rent for that apartment and he's just living there. There's a full grown man my age is living there having sex with my daughter Like this is I can't do this anymore So Mr. Columbus calls up Frank and is like I'm gonna meet you after work. Are you closing today?
Starting point is 00:55:41 He's like, yeah, I'm closing today. Well meet you at the Walgreens parking lot. So Frank, I mean he's super nervous. He's like, please Patricia, you gotta be there. I don't wanna meet your dad alone again, right? So Patricia shows up after work. Everyone, all the other employees leave and they're waiting in this empty parking lot for Mr. Colombo to show up. So he skurs, skurs into the parking lot.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Like he's drifting, he's pissed. You can tell Mr. Colombo's pissed by the way that he's driving, right? He gets out of the car and Patricia is like finally dad, you've come around, let's talk about it. But when Mr. Columbus gets out, they realize he had a rifle in his hand. And the couple was shook. So with the butt of the rifle, Mr. Columbus starts bashing in Frank's head. And he said, I will fucking kill you get away from my daughter or your fucking dead And he throws a rifle back into his car and he says I'll kill you to patty in. I'm serious And he zooms out of that parking lot. So of course patty rushes him to the hospital
Starting point is 00:56:42 Calls the police and the police, you know, they take the run down the story, and they ask Patricia, do you want to find, do you want to like sign an official complaint because you do understand what that means, right? We're going to arrest your father. And she says, good, arrest him! Throw his ass in jail, that's what he deserves! So the police, they go to the Colombo House, and they arrest Frank Colombo. Now this, I don't know, okay, I mean yes, that was full on assault, right? But I'm just saying, once you have a family member arrested, I'm not saying it's the wrong
Starting point is 00:57:12 choice, but you're pretty much done for, like I don't know how you can reconcile after that. They like splits a whole family apart. So everyone was beyond shocked. And this time, Frank Colombo, who always treated Patricia like his little princess, the light of his life, told everyone that he's taking her out of his will. I mean, this was the ultimate betrayal he told all of his family friends. She had me arrested like a common criminal.
Starting point is 00:57:36 My own daughter threw me in jail. He was mad. And Patty was mad. Patricia was mad. She starts shopping for a hitman. What? She thought, my dad's, she starts shopping for a hitman. What? She thought, my dad's, well this is her excuse, is that, well my dad's actually gonna kill us, you heard him, he told us, I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And he did, you know, assault Frank. Maybe it's true, I mean my dad's Italian, I always knew that he had a short temper, maybe he has Italian connections to the Italian mafia here in Chicago. So she is still crazy in love with Frank. Yeah. And so she starts shopping for Hitman. And she meets these two sleazy guys by the name of Lanny and Roman.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Now Lanny was a used car salesman, but he told everyone that he was a disgraced cop every single time that he got. Because it was better for him and his eyes to be a disgraced nasty bad cop than it was to be a used car salesman So it tell people I'm only doing this because I got suspended from being a police officer because you know I was I was making money from these robberies and it's like what? The worst thing ever. I don't know what what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:58:44 Roman he was also sleazy. He constantly carried a gun on him, not because he had a lot of enemies, not because he was in the Italian mafia, but because he wanted to impress young girls. Who thought like, whoa, you have a gun that's crazy or so badass. And it worked. They all try to look like they have street craters. Yeah, but they don't really.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And it worked with Patricia. And so she asked them, well, how much for a hit? Can you kill my parents? They have street crats or something. Yeah, but they don't really. And it works with Patricia. And so she asked them, well, how much for a hit? Can you kill my parents? And they said, well, what do you have to offer? So she kept telling them, I can pay you afterwards,
Starting point is 00:59:16 after they hit, because I'm going to have custody over Michael. I know that I'm out of the will, but I'm going to have custody over my brother because I'm over 18. I'm 19 now. And I'm going to handle the estate. I know that we've got a bunch of money. I can pay you guys how much do you want? We want $10,000 each. So $20,000 for both your parents.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Okay, yeah, let's do it. But you need to give us something before we do it. Good faith. You can't just tell us you're gonna give us all the money afterwards. What if you don't? What are we gonna do? Go tell the cops? Well, I don't have any money. I really don't. Okay, but you have something else.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And so, of course, these two men, they were never planning on killing her parents. They wanted to sleep with 19-year-old Patricia. So for the next month's Becken call, any time they called, she would go and she was forced to sleep with them. And maybe not forced because she thought that in return, her parents would be dead. So maybe that's even nastier.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So they hit on the family. Patty Patricia had offered Lanyan Roman $10,000 per parent. So $20,000 paid with her insurance after the job was done. She wanted it to be done around Christmas time, as a present to herself. This is my Christmas present to myself, my parents being dead. She gave them a diagram of her house, the layout of the floor plan. Her dad's routine, her family's routine written on a piece of paper.
Starting point is 01:00:43 She also wrote a list of things that they can take from the house because they want to make it look like a robbery, right? So take this, take that. But leave the diamonds because I'm going to inherit them. Leave my mom's jewelry because I'm going to inherit them. Patricia knew that her parents had about a quarter million dollars in the bank, about half a million dollars in life insurance, and there was possibly around another two hundred thousand dollars in the safe in cash at home. She is.
Starting point is 01:01:09 So she could easily spend twenty thousand dollars, right? So she's like, it's gonna be great. Now can you guys please do it before Christmas? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Christmas comes and leaves, nothing happens. So she's like, what are you guys doing? Come on. I mean, the guys were using her for sex and Patricia was starting to catch on. So she confronts them. Just like,
Starting point is 01:01:28 you guys need to do it now where I'm finding someone else and they don't want the sex to stop. So they tell her, no, no, no, no, no, we're working on it. But it's just, it's complicated, okay? It's your brother. Having a witness in the house is just complicated. It makes it hard. How are we going to go in there and kill both your parents? But what if he sees us? He's like, what? 11 years old? He's gonna remember our faces. He's gonna remember details. And Patricia looks at them and says, Okay, then just kill him too.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Just kill him too. Just that easily. You're probably right anyway. He's gonna get older and he's probably gonna sense that I had something to do with it and wrap me out. It's just, it's better to get it all over with at once. Kill my brother too. So you're like, what? Okay. So months still go by and nothing happens.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And Petition Franks start talking to themselves and they say, if they're not going to do it, we might have to do it ourselves. If they're not going to do it, we might have to do it ourselves. If they're not going to do it, we might have to do it ourselves. So months pass, and the assistant manager of Walgreens comes in for his shift, and he's the opening shift. He's the only one opening, so he should be unlocking the doors, turning on the lights, turning on the music, setting up the cashier registers. And he comes in, but the music's already on.
Starting point is 01:02:39 The lights are on. He's like, that's weird. I'm the only one on schedule to open. What's going on? He goes into the back to see if there's another employee or maybe they didn't close correctly the night before. But he sees that Frank, the store manager, is turning on the store's incinerator.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And he's burning something. There's a big fire in the incinerator. And he's like, oh, Frank, you're not even scheduled. What's going on? And Frank tells him, hey, remember when I was telling you that my girlfriend's, you know dad was trying to kill me in the parking lot Well it went down last night Well it went down last night. I took down the whole family What what yeah, I'm burning my clothes. It was a fucking bloody mess. I'm telling you
Starting point is 01:03:23 Why is he telling him? Because he just loves bragging. He can't help himself. And so the assistant manager was like, okay, well maybe Frank's just bragging, you know? Because he's like that. He's a brager. He likes to over-dromatize things to make himself feel like a man. He probably didn't do anything and he's a nervous braggin' and this assistant manager
Starting point is 01:03:42 he needed this job. He needed this job. He needed this job. So he's like, what do you mean? He's like, you see these cuts on my hands? Oh, dude, I got him good. I got it when I had a smash the lamp over the old man's head. Yeah, he shot him, but he was still up. So I smashed this lamp on his head because he tried to fight.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So the assistant manager was terrified. He tried to stay out of it. He just nodded, went back to work, the next day he arrives, and Frank is like, nobody's found the bodies yet, isn't that weird? He's like, yeah, anyway, I'm going to be working in the back room today, so he's again avoiding him. The next day, Frank is still complaining. Hey, you don't think it's weird that they haven't found the bodies yet?
Starting point is 01:04:22 He's like, it's been, it's been, wait, I did that Tuesday night, it's now that they haven't found the bodies yet. He's like, it's been, it's been, I did that Tuesday night, it's now Thursday. Nobody's found the bodies. I mean, Michael, the kid has been missing from school for like days. Nobody's found, none of this makes sense. You don't think that they, you don't think it's weird? The assistant manager's like, I don't, I don't think so. So he doesn't believe it fully right now. I mean, he kind of does.
Starting point is 01:04:41 He's thinking, if I do believe it, this guy's probably gonna kill me. You know, if he did kill this whole family, what's stopping him from killing me if I say something? And if it didn't happen, what a weird boss that I have, right? I just don't wanna get involved. I just wanna do my job. I'm here to clock and clock out, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And so he does not go to the police. Now, Frank does tell Janice about it as well. And she mentioned that it seemed like he was high on emotions, almost ecstatic, almost like he's bragging and he tells her, I killed them, I killed the whole family. And she wanted to call the cops, but he tells her, if you tell the cops, if you tell anyone, I will beat you up to the point where nobody will recognize you, but on top of that, I'm going to get a bunch of guys to come and gang rape your daughter. So finally, Friday, May 7th, the Chicago police come to the Colombo House to investigate a
Starting point is 01:05:28 lost car. They found the Colombo Thunderbird car was parked in the city. The front window was broken. It seems like it was a car jacking. There was a lot of things inside the car that seemed to be stolen. The entire ignition system of the car was stolen. There was obviously some crime, but no car had been reported missing which is strange so they just wanted to let the family know hey your car is missing
Starting point is 01:05:50 did you notice and it's also downtown and things have been stolen such as the entire ignition system so when the police get to the house they immediately knew that something was wrong. There was a ton of mail sticking out of the mailbox. There were three daily issues of the newspaper on the porch. The front door was open a little bit. And from that front door being a jar, you could hear there was this tiny little dog whining from the inside. Just non-stop barking and barking. So they call for backup and they decide we got to storm the house. Front doors unlocked. They start going in. They start clearing room to room. They start heading up the stairs. And when they look past the railing into the living room, they see the in, they start clearing room to room, they start heading up the stairs, and when they look past the railing into the living room, they see the body of the man,
Starting point is 01:06:29 lying on his back, covered in blood, and he had obviously been decomposing for a couple of days. That was Frank Colombo. There were broken shards of glass all over his body, there were four human teeth on the carpet, because someone had inflicted that much blunt forced trauma for his teeth to fall out. They reach upstairs and Mary Columbau was laying on her back. Her nightgown was around her waist and her panties were at her knees.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Her throat had been slit, she had a hole between her eyes, like she had been shut right in between her eyebrows. And both the Columbau the Columbus parents their heads were bashed in blunt force trauma with a block block shaped instrument which they let her identify to be a bowling trophy. So immediately the police noticed that Mary had a large diamond ring on her finger and they thought that this was strange just strange that's the first thing that they noticed. Now the rest of the house blood is smeared all over the rest of the house, blood is
Starting point is 01:07:25 smeared all over the walls, there was a safe downstairs, a giant wall safe, but it wasn't tampered with, nobody even attempted to open it, which is again bizarre, especially because it wasn't hidden, it's not like a fake, you know, painting that you open up and then all safe, it's just right there, even they could find it so quick that doesn't make any sense in the very last room that they check They find the body of 13 year old Michael Colombo He had been shot Stabbed over 80 times with small scissors and next to him was the bowling trophy that was used on the Colombo family to inflict
Starting point is 01:08:00 Planned Force trauma So this is overall strange situation that they walk into. I mean, they don't know the whole story that I just told you. They're just walking into a nice upper middle class area. Was this a gang related home invasion? And they also thought, because of course they're Italian, just like when we talked about this a lot, just like when Chinese, something happens to Chinese parents
Starting point is 01:08:21 and they own a Chinese restaurant, the first thing is, must have been something Chinese Mafia. They must have the whole operation behind in the kitchen of that Chinese restaurant. And so with the Columbus, they're like, well, that's an Italian name. It must be the Italian Mafia related. Because there is a lot of Italian Mafia presence in Chicago at the time, so it must be. Why didn't they take more valuables though? That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:08:46 They open up the safe. There's close to $350,000 in cash and the safe. None of that makes sense either. I mean, but why would the home invasion get so deadly? Was it personal? Was the rest of the community gonna do? So the police decide on a theory. It must be drugs!
Starting point is 01:09:02 Home invaders came into this house. They wanted money. Then they started getting high on drugs during the middle of this home invasion. They're torturing Frank. Frank had a lot more injuries. They're torturing him, probably to get that safe code, but he won't give it to them. So they just killed the rest of the family. The time of death was placed between 11pm to 1am May 4th to May 5th.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And that was that. The community was like, huh, make sense. Maybe it is mafia related. Maybe it is a deadly home invasion. And they do the autopsies. Frank Colombo had been shot four times. He was missing teeth. He had blunt force trauma to the head.
Starting point is 01:09:40 The cause of death was one or more bullets to the head. Mary Colombo was shot in the head, lacerations all around, she had incisions around her neck, her eyes were wide open and her pupils were dilated. That means the conclusion is that she saw death coming. She died with her eyes open. Her underwear had been pulled down, but there was no evidence of sexual assault. The possible theory is that she was using the bathroom in the middle of the night to pee, heard a commotion, the murder of her husband rushed out and was shot. The autopsy of 13 year old Michael, he was stabbed 84 times.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Eight of the times were incredibly deep. The rest of the 76 stabs were more like slices. She had no defensive wounds, so it seemed that he was probably shot first and then stabbed after he had passed. What does that mean? Usually that's like very passionate, you just want to get revenge, or you're trying to stage it in an odd way.
Starting point is 01:10:34 So the police, they noticed a couple odd things. The first being that Patricia demanded that all of her family be cremated. But after all of the interviews that the police had done, they knew that this family was Catholic. Frank Colombo was incredibly Catholic, you know? None of that made sense. Catholics usually don't want to be cremated. They want to be buried. And the rest of the family friends, they were like, what? The Colombo's would never be okay with being cremated.
Starting point is 01:10:58 But Patricia, she was the only one left. Now the funeral for the family was all about Patricia, for all of the attendees. Because she is the only one that survived. She's the victim. She also lost all of her family members. But to the police, she's a little bit funny. She's a little bit of an actress. So not in the way that you would think. You know, you're thinking actress, she's overdoing it. She's stumbling out of the car. Maybe she's just doing the most. But no, she would be straight up giggling, smoking cigarettes right outside the church Put out her cigarette walk inside and it's like
Starting point is 01:11:30 Immediately upon walking through the door a completely new person just bawling her eyes out She's throwing herself onto these caskets just doing the most So the cops are seeing all of this. Yes, and she actually the the whole time, when she wasn't sobbing, she was flirting with one of the police officers. In front of her boyfriend, Frank Deluca, it was so bad that a lot of family members thought that the police officer was her boyfriend, Frank. Why?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Because they're like, oh, you know, Patricia, I heard you're dating an older guy. Oh, nice to meet you. Frank, and he's like, oh, I'm a police officer. That's Frank. That's odd. So they asked Patricia, well, let's let's go through that day again. Where were you? You know, you have an alibi. You read home with Frank. We get it. But how did you find out about your family being dead? And she said, well, I was home. And Frank told me that he had heard from a friend who works at the police department that my entire family had been massacred.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Okay, so what did you do? I mean, what is your first thought to do, right? I'd probably go to my family's house. I'd be like, I don't freaking believe you, right? And if it happened, I need to see it, I need to go to my, I just, I think that I would just have to go, right? But she didn't. She didn't run to the police either to confirm.
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Starting point is 01:15:24 for the Colombo. Oh my god. So they bring in Lanny. Lanny brings in Roman. They even show all the diagrams. And Lanny and Roman, they're like, listen, she gave us all this information. I swear to god, I didn't do it. The only thing that I was trying to do was get sex from Patricia. That's it. That's it. I swear. So they look at these sheets of paper. I mean, she had written down their routines, their diagrams of the layout of the house, everything.
Starting point is 01:15:49 So they get a search warrant, they search Patricia's place, and she had an open notebook on her living room table that had the same exact sheets of paper obtained that had all of the drawings, it matched her handwriting by handwriting experts, but they also found a ton of super-excerated polaroids, a Patricia Nute, of Patricia performing Felatio on Strange Men, even suggestive poses with Patricia completely naked, with their German shepherd Duke, also other polaroids of Janice from Walgreens, of her receiving oral sex from a dog. Yeah, really intense stuff. So they find just bizarre, bizarre things. So the couple was arrested 10 days after finding the bodies of the Colombo family and Frank the whole time during his entire interview, every single opportunity that he had to refer to Mr. and Mrs. Colombo, He called them, Mom and Dad.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Mom and Dad were a little bit upset when we first started dating because I'm a little bit older, but Mom and Dad were coming around to it. Mom and Dad were gonna come to the wedding. Mom and Dad, we're getting comfortable with us again. Why is he doing that? To make it seem like,
Starting point is 01:17:01 why would I have a motive to kill them? Mom and Dad were starting to approve of our relationship. Just I hate that so much. And of course, both the couple, they deny anything to do with this. Patricia even says that she only drew those for the hitman, Lanny, because he had a gun to her head. And he wanted to rape Patricia's mom, Mary. Lanny was like your mom is pretty, I want want to rape her and I want to rob you guys.
Starting point is 01:17:27 But the theory was discounted by a handwriting expert, because usually you can tell when someone was writing in distress. And so they were like, that doesn't make sense. They also found handprints in the Thunderbird abandoned car that was left behind. And it was Frank's handprints. Even his fingers were missing on his left hand in the handprint.
Starting point is 01:17:44 So it was just kind of like, it's really hard for you to deny this. The the trial was gonna start and it was gonna be an absolute shit show because so many pictures were entered into evidence. And they were not gonna work for Patricia. A ton of them were her nude polaroids that were shown to the jury. She was definitely painted out by the prosecutors to just be a slut, honestly. Like that's how they framed it. I don't know why they couldn't have just mentioned the polaroids. I don't know why they showed it to the jury. I'm not on her side at all.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I think that she's super guilty, but I do think that it's ways the opinion. She's just seen as this very, you know, willing to do anything, doesn't care about anyone. Has no morals, I mean she's posing like that with a dog, come on. I just don't know why they had to show it to the jury. Now the couple was tried together, so it was going to be one massive trial, and the main star of the show was a man by the name of Clifford Lee Childs. You're like, I've never heard of this guy, well let me tell you, he was a jailhouse friend
Starting point is 01:18:42 of Franks while Frank was waiting for his trial to start. And this Clifford guy, he was in jail for multiple different robberies and was bailed out by Frank's wife. His bond was paid by Frank. He had been given drawings of Janice's house and where the assistant manager of Walgreens lived. Frank had told them, I will bail you out and I will pay you more money if you kill the star witnesses because Janice and the assistant manager were the star witnesses.
Starting point is 01:19:12 They had witnessed him burning his clothes. They had witnessed him literally staying straight up. I killed the family. So he got bailed out and then he turned around. He's like, we he got bailed out, but he didn't tell the cops. He just saw hung out with his family. Oh, yeah, he was just like, okay, bye. So he didn't turn around yet. Yeah, he just hung out with his family It was another cellmate who had overheard these conversations decided to tell the cops Trying to get something is like yeah, that guy's out of jail. I didn't think it was gonna happen But he's you know been out on bail now And apparently Clifford Lee child's when he testifying, Frank had told him in prison
Starting point is 01:19:49 what had really happened. So Frank DeLuca had set up a meeting with Patti's parents, and that they were all gonna make up. They were gonna come to a conclusion because, you know, the wedding is gonna happen in June, whether they like it or not. The plan was to meet at 8 p.m. But instead Frank shows up late at 10 p.m. he wanted to catch them off guard. Frank Colombo opens the door, turns around to go up the stairs and that is when Frank DeLuca shoots. Mr. Colombo in the back of the head. Now there was some fighting immediately. You know, Mr. Colombo was not going to go down without a fight and so he shoots him a couple more times and breaks a lamp on top of his head. So then he goes upstairs to take care of Mary,
Starting point is 01:20:26 and she had heard the commotion rushed out of the bathroom. Her panties were around her knees. She was in her night gown and shoots her right in the forehead in between the eyebrows. Then goes into Michael's room. By the way, Patricia's here. She's witnessing all of this. She's witnessing all of this. Forces, Michael, her 13-year-old brother to stand up, shoots him in the head. And then they grab a bowling trophy and go round from family member to family member, inflicting blunt force trauma. And finally, in Michael's room, they stab him 80 times. It suspected that it was Patricia doing the stabbing because it was a pair of gold sewing scissors and all of the
Starting point is 01:21:06 wounds were like I said most of them were superficial. When you're talking about Frank Deluca I mean he's not a macho guy but he was a football player he did skydive it just would it would go out of his way to do it even lighter does that make sense it just seemed like the doing of someone who was physically a little bit weaker. Then they got a couple of different valuables that Patricia didn't care for such as like this fancy radio, some fur coats, drove the Thunderbird, the family car, into the not-so-great area of Chicago, left the murder weapon, left a radio for all in plain view, parked it there, and just left. Because Frank Deluga told everyone in jail that some N words were going to break into the car, Jack the murder weapon, Jack all the other stuff, and eventually they
Starting point is 01:21:52 would be linked to the murder. And these N words would go down for the robbery and the murder of the Colombo family. So pretty much all that's left is it was his perfect plan Except you're dealing with Frank Deluca Frank Deluca had to brag about it because it was the perfect plan Because he thought about something so genius Because he's so smart. He's gonna get away with murder He had to talk about it So that's how the trials going in the middle of trial Patricia turned years old, and she shared a cake with some court employees and her attorneys in the courthouse. It was white icing and inside was devil's food cake. And everyone in the courthouse mentioned that it seemed it seemed
Starting point is 01:22:38 appropriate. So the devil's fruit cake. Devil's food cake is like a type of chocolate cake. It's really good. But they were like, how ironic. It couldn't be like double chocolate or like German chocolate cake. It had to be devil's food cake. What? So they were all sentenced. The jury comes back. They find them guilty on all the counts. Come on. That was like a no-brainer, right? The judge sentenced the couple to 200 to 300 years on all three murders. For solicitation to commit murder, patty was sentenced to an extra 20 to 50 years, frank and extra 10 to 50 years to run concurrently.
Starting point is 01:23:10 They will actually become eligible for parole. They've had multiple parole hearings, and in 2014, finally, frank had admitted some of the guilt. So this whole time, both of them like, we weren't in there, we don't know what you're talking about, but frank and 2014 said, I should never be released because what I did was horrendous. So after the trial, Patricia, she states
Starting point is 01:23:30 that the only thing that the court can't take away from her is that my father and my mother and my baby brother know that it wasn't us in that house that night or that morning or whatever it was. And that's all that matters. The judge states that if he could put Patricia in the electric chair, he would, because she is a vicious, cunning,
Starting point is 01:23:47 coy, mean, disruptive person who had this high regard for herself, a high opinion of herself and her sexuality and her charm. Like she genuinely thought that flirting with some prosecutors and some police officers would get her off the hook for triple murder. If Frank Deluga is not paroled, which I highly doubt he will be, the earliest possible
Starting point is 01:24:11 release for him will be in 2116. Patricia as well has been denied parole multiple times. Her earliest possible release also is 2116. She's been a little bit more active in jail though. She got her degree. She helps other female inmates. But for the most popular thing that she's done in jail, is she was accused of organizing sex parties
Starting point is 01:24:34 for high ranking prison officials. So what they accused her of doing is that she would gather and convince attractive female inmates to have sex parties with high ranking guards. Did it happen? Well, that's where it gets tricky. At least six female inmates came forward to say that they were forced into performing
Starting point is 01:24:54 sexual acts by two prison officials or performing sexual acts with each other while prison officials watched. And they said that they were all procured by Patricia Colombo, that she was the one arranging it. She was the one arranging the time, the dates, which women would go, which inmates would go. A lot of them even passed lie detector tests. But Patricia claims that she had no doing in this.
Starting point is 01:25:18 She was approached, denied the offer, she did not set anything up. That's what she said. But it was such a big scandal that multiple officials were suspended or stepped down and even the warden, the warden of this prison resigned. Wow. I believe her doing this sounds very much like her and then just lie about it.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Sounds. Sounds like about Patricia Colombo. She also refused to see a psychiatrist in prison because they are all working for the department of corrections and she says that nothing I say is confidential. It's all on the record. Plus, it's male dominated. And she said, and I quote, one thing I do not need is another man trying to help me solve my problems. It's like very strange.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I do get that it's, I would want a female psychiatrist in these female prisons Especially when did you know a lot of the female prisoners have been sexually abused? So it's like yeah, maybe we should hire more female psychiatrist for these prisons But the only people that she would really talk to was a couple of nuns who came to see her so sister But Burke she had been working in a nonprofit for over 40 years trying to rehabilitate prisoners And that is where Patricia came forward about the sexual abuse that she had endured at the hands of Uncle Gus Was to sister Burke now. She never really used any of this in her parole hearing So I don't necessarily know if she had confessed to this now trying to get parole or if it is something
Starting point is 01:26:43 I do know that it's common for people to repress these feelings and then realize what's happened when they're in their 30s, so maybe it's that. And the only other person was for the author of the book that I read that is part of the source notes. It's called Like Loves Blood. It's a 600 page book that's really good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:27:04 But if you're gonna read it, take it with a grain of salt because it does seem like the author has some sort of love for Patricia Colombo. It is speculated that during these meetings that maybe he possibly even fell in love with Patricia Colombo because it is done in a way where you feel a lot of sympathy towards Patricia. And a lot more than you should, because there is sympathy for the fact that Frank Deluca was double her age, and she was groomed. She was under age.
Starting point is 01:27:31 She was abused by him. Yeah. Now the book does say family murders are interesting. Child murders, despicable. Nobody likes that. Zero killings are almost seen as like statistical. It's like a numbers game. You can kind of ration it like that.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Robberies, home invasions, maybe you're thinking don't piss anyone off, maybe people tell you don't flaunt your wealth, maybe no one will rob you and murder you by accident. But your own family, I just feel like there's something about it. What's the rationale there to try to not get scared? She wanted to be there to watch her family get killed because it was a present for herself. She wanted her entire family murdered for a man that wanted her to fork a dog.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And that is the story of Patricia Colombo and Frank Deluca. What are your thoughts on this one? This one was bizarre. Bizarre! Imagine walking into that wall of greens and these are the employees there. What are your thoughts on this one? This one was bizarre. You're right. You're right. Imagine walking into that wall of greens, and these are the employees there. We would never know. We would never know. Let me know your thoughts, and I hope you guys enjoyed this week's episode, and I will be back on Sunday with a mini-sode.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Let me know your thoughts. Bye! Bye!

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