Rotten Mango - #92: The Hair Fetish Serial Killer (Case of Danilo Restivo)

Episode Date: August 29, 2021

Her body was found by her own children. When the police rushed to the scene they were shocked.  She had been brutally mutilated - but something curious was in her hands. They were the keys to solving the case. A clump of hair was found in each hand - when they ran the DNA…  One locket of hair belonged to her - the other an unidentifiable woman. A ritualistic killing with an emphasis on women’s long hair. Who is this strange killer? And will they catch him in time?  Full Source Notes: rottenmangopodcast.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to this week's mini-sode. Let me just tell you, what if you went to the movies? It's date night. You haven't been out in so long. This is not an ad, okay? You're like, let's go watch our favorite movie. You get your tickets. You and your partner. You walk into the theater, you sit your little booty down and you start watching it. Now regardless of, you know, what kind of hairstyle you like in this one, you have a very long ponytail. Sorry, that's it. You don't get choices in this one, okay? You've got this very long ponytail and it's kind of tucked away in your seat, but also a little bit behind your seat. You start feeling a tug. Oh, that's so annoying. But you don't want to look back because how awkward is that at a movie theater? So you're like, okay, let me just maybe I'd stuck on the seat or something.

So you try yanking it a little bit but your hair is hurting. It's stuck. So then you're thinking, okay, well the guy behind me, maybe his knees are on the back of my seat. They're resting on my hair. So I just need to give it a good little yank. And then he's going to realize I should get my knee off this lady's hair. So you start yank in a little bit, a little bit harder and you're starting to get stressed, you're sweating, you're not even watching the movie at this point and your partner notices they're like, well,

come on, what's wrong? Why aren't you watching the movie and you're like, my hair is stuck. So they turn around and you turn around with them and you see the man behind you is actually not Kneeing on the back of your seat. He's got his hands under a jacket and the jacket's on his lap and it's it's a going up and down That's all making an up-down motion He's masturbating in the movie theater. Well, why is he stealing or yanking your hair? Yeah, we're about to find out. So he's masturbating in the movie theater. So you're like, okay, this is disgusting. You guys switch seats.

You make a whole deal out of it. You huff and you plop and you move to a different seat. You finish the movie. And on your way home, yes. Was it disturbing? Yes. Was it traumatic? But it's a, you know what? Let's think of it like it's a good story.

Can you believe it? Who does that? What's wrong with this guy? And yuck, what if there were kids around? What's wrong with this motherfucker? Then the next morning you shower, and you realize not only did this man masturbate behind you, but the man in the theater had taken off a chunk of your hair. He had sniffed it.

He cut your hair. Why would he do something like that? This guy is known as the hair fetish serial killer. I've never heard of that. There are hair fetish. Italy. What does Italy have to do with this? Oh, maybe because you never heard of it. No, I'm not impliting that Italians have like a hair fetish right here. No, I'm saying maybe you haven't heard of it because it's the guys from Italy.

So there are people who's into hair. Oh yeah. Jazz hair. Yeah, it's like a foot fetish. We're not judging. They're just into hair. They like a hair a specific way. Maybe they like it long.

Maybe they like the smoothness of hair, the softness of hair. So there are people who want to cut off your hair. I guess some people. I feel like most people that are into hair maybe want to look at it yet. Exactly. Do I just admire it or do I want to own it? Well, do you? It's getting a little calm down.

This is not the hub. So it's always a full source note to reveal about RottenMangoPodcast.com, but there's a really good book on this because it's really hard to find a lot of information about this guy. I mean there is like a documentary but the book is amazing. It's called Blood on the Altar by Tobias Jones and he was really close with the family of the victims. I mean really really close. They're kids new each other. He was accepted into their circle. He had a good heart. He wanted to share this story. He also traveled all over Italy. So the book reads really well because if you've never been to Italy, like I have, I've never been. Sometimes it's kind of hard to picture everything.

You're like, okay, well, how am I supposed to? What am I imagining? But he helps you imagine every single shot because he's so descriptive, such a talented author and it's heartbreaking, but it's very, very gripping. So let's get into the crime. It all starts with Alisa Claps. Now she was born and raised in a part of Italy called Patenza, which is a bit of a remote isolated city.

The people there are quite close. They love when tourists come to their hilly town. They've got lots of mountains. If you ask, if you go over there, you ask for a local for directions, they're going to drag your booty into a local restaurant, pay for your meal, and then give you a free ride there. Like, that's the type of town that this is. They love church, everyone congregated, there's a lot of Catholics in this area, so they all go to the Catholic church, and the clap family. I mean, they were genuinely just a well-loved family in the community. They came from humble backgrounds, okay? They own like a tobacco shop, not necessarily the rich of the Italy So the dad his name is Antonio and he was a comedian

No, not really, but like his whole life He just like to make people have ran this modest tobacco shop and his entire goal in life was to get you to smile Okay, it's not even to get you to buy tobacco. It's like you just got a smile and then there was filomena the mom And she was known as a mama in Italy. I don't know if I that's obviously not how you say it but she was she's stereotypical in the sense of like she's religious. Noah's had to cook the classic Italian dishes. She's strict on her kids raises them well but at the same time she's like an ultimate softie. Like she's like the type of mom that you want to meet. She's going to ask you so many questions about your family and she's actually gonna listen it's not her

just being like oh where are you from like she genuinely wants to know so they have their first son judo and he's a swimming champion law school needs to pass two more exams to graduate very just accomplished people right then we've got Luciano the middle kid who's about to enlist in the military so that he can become a police officer afterwards then we have got Luciano the middle kid who's about to enlist in the military so that he can become a police officer afterwards. Then we have Young Alisa, the youngest and only daughter. So she's she's protected and adored not just by her parents but her older brothers. They're so protective of her. I mean they're gonna make sure that she's not talking to no creepy guys. They're on top of her. They got it on lockdown. Now she's 16 years old when this happens.

Even though she was 16, she had this really innocent way about her. Just really good to everyone. Her dream was to become a doctor in Africa. Her friends were once so annoyed with her. So they go to the lake, right? Let's have fun. It's our off day.

We're not in school. We don't have to think about exams. We're going to just get in our bikinis, jump around in the lake, and Alisa sees the butterfly. And the wing of the butterfly is broken. So she spends the whole day trying to help fix this, nurturing this butterfly's wing until it's able to fly again. And she won't go home until this butterfly can fly. And they're like, what is wrong with you? And they're just teasing her the whole time. Oh, okay, mother Teresa, what happens if we go to the fair

and you see another butterfly anytime they make plans? They're like, oh, what are you gonna do if the butterflies there? They're just making butter for us. She's always trying to help people. Never salt the bad and people really only the good. September 12th rose round, and the clap family decided that they're gonna have lunch in their country side home

This sounds really bougie, but they're really not for money They didn't even have a working phone inside that house, okay? It was like a shed, but they love it It's a fixer opera. It's their dream. It's their place to just bring the family and have these nice natural lunches So the parents and the middle son they want to prep the place They want to go get the food ready get cook-ins They leave at 8 in the morning. Then the oldest and the youngest, they're going to come meet them for lunch. Alisa wakes up around 10, showers and tells her brother to listen, I'm going to go to church

because it's Sunday with my friend, Eliana, and then we're going to go to the countryside with you, we're going to go all three of us. So Alisa, her brother and her best friend, Eliana, they're going to go eat lunch. Okay, that's fine, right? Go. They could actually walk to the local, massive, Catholiciana, they're gonna go eat lunch. Okay, that's fine, right? Go. They could actually walk to the local massive Catholic church, so that's what the two did. Now they're passing people on their mo-peds, I mean cafes, with people sipping coffee,

like truly just a walkable place. It's called the piaca. My god, I wanna go to Italy. It's like a center where people congregate, it's where all the restaurants are, and they're just walking through, they get to the local church, it sounds picturesque. So Judo's waiting at home when he gets a knock on the door. He goes to the intercom, yes? Uh, it's Aliana, is Alisa here with you?

No, what do you mean? You were just with her. What's wrong? Uh, uh, don't worry, nothing's wrong. We just lost each other coming back from church. I thought she came back here to wait for me for lunch then. Well, she's not here. So now at this point, Judo's really agitated. He's like, what the heck? First of all, he's getting hungry. Second of all, they're going to be late for lunch. Third of all, how do you lose someone while they're walking home from church?

I mean, he thinks that this is like the dumbest thing. Like, the most ridiculous, what's wrong with you guys? So he waits about another 30 minutes. I'm sure Alisa's gonna come back home. It's not like this is massive city where she's gonna get lost, but she doesn't make it back. Okay, this is getting weird now. So Alisa, she is responsible.

She's always on time, if not early. She would never keep the whole family waiting. So he starts going out searching the streets. Each block that he searches, he starts getting more and more anxious, a bit more worried, just something strange. She wouldn't do that. She wouldn't even mess with their plans like that. Like she is, literally puts everyone before her.

How would she do that? Two hours pass, he full on freaks out. And he just goes up, Dalyan, and he starts screaming. Are you sure that's what happened. Where did you lose her on the walk back? I mean, it's not even that big. It's not even that long of a walk. How did you lose my sister? And she's acting really strange. Her answers are really strange. Their friends start coming over Alisa's friends, Judo's friends to help look for Alisa. And he's like, tell me the truth. Where is she?

And he's just yelling at Aliana. Okay. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. coming over Alisa's friends, judo's friends to help look for Alisa. And he's like, tell me the truth. Where is she? And he's just yelling at Eliana.

Okay, okay. We never went to mass together. She was gonna go meet Danilo Restivo. He kept telling her that he had this present for her because she had passed her recent exams and she was gonna meet with him then. And then she was gonna meet me at the piazza later. So you didn't go to church with her. I mean, I went to the church,

but she was meeting Danilo and then I left. And then I went to our meeting spot, but then she never came, so then I came here. I thought that maybe she didn't want to meet me at the meeting spot or maybe she didn't couldn't find me. So he starts panicking. Judo starts panicking because he knows Danilo. I mean, it's just not someone that you would feel safe with your baby sister being with.

He was a creepy, well-known in the town. He comes from money. His dad is a very powerful Sicilian businessman. Just weird dude. Major insecurities. We just want to be accepted by everyone. He had this small week, almost childlike feminine voice, and all of his mannerisms were just a

little bit off-putting. At one point he had actually tried to hit on Alisa in front of Judo once and he just straight up told her, Alisa, like you should not be hanging out with this guy. He's a creep, I'm telling you now, I'm gonna go up to him and I'm gonna tell him to back the fork off. Don't be talking to my baby sister. And she's like, no, no, no, please don't do that. Please, he's just a loner. I feel sorry for him.

He really doesn't mean any harm. I get it. He's awkward, but what can you do? Don't be mean. So now the older brothers had his spinning. He calls Denolo up and he's like, where is she? Alyssa? Well, we met in front of the church and we sat behind the altar.

We chatted about life, you know We were there for about 30 minutes She got up to leave and I stayed so that I could pray He says you know what you know now that you ask she did seem really stressed today when I met her at church She kept mentioning that some guy was harassing her this morning. She didn't say who but I don't know it seems weird to me And then in the background, he hears, give it to me. And there is little Tussle. And then someone picks up the phone.

And it's a deep voice. We're having lunch. My son already told you everything that he knows. And he slams the phone shut. It was Danilo's powerful dad. Also, I think I'm butchering all these names. So meanwhile, Alissa's parents, they didn't have a phone in the country house. So they're waiting over their hours past and at first, they're sitting there with their cold,

stale lunch, thinking, well, maybe they lost their car keys. It's so bizarre, they would never be late. Or maybe there's a small traffic accident, a road stop, and then they couldn't take it anymore. They're like, we gotta go. Abandon the food, let's get into the car and just check. They drive all the way back to their regular house and the whole car ride, they all try to pretend it's nothing. But there is this really thick sense of just tension

and worry throughout the car and it's just uncomfortable. When they get home, they know immediately something's wrong. Because Judah looks at them and says, she's missing. And they start freaking out. He tries to catch them back to speed, and Luciano, the middle brother, immediately is like, well I'm going to Danilo's house to investigate, like no one's gonna stop me, I'm going, so he gets into the car and leaves. Now at this point in the Danilo house, they were supposed to be having a family lunch at Sunday, but it's rough!

The whole family was essentially late, starting with Danilo, he was late. Then when he got home, his older sister, Danilo's sister realized, hey, which one with your hand? It's bleeding. Let me take you to the hospital. So they go to the hospital, he gets it stitched up and bandaged. Then they come home, finally sit down with the whole family to have lunch. Then the phone won't stop reading. First, it's Judo.

Then it's Elissa's friends. Then there's a knock on the door. And at this point, the dad knows what's going on, okay? He knows something's going on with his son, Danilo, so he stands up in the middle of lunch. Danilo, in my office, now. And they're in there for a couple of hours, and we have no idea what they talked about.

But once Danilo comes out, he's a completely different person. He was stuttering on the phone. He was a little bit nervous on the phone. But suddenly he's calm, confident, even. So Luciana comes over and Danilo repeats the same story. But when he says, Danilo, what's the thing on your hand? Why is your hand hard? Well, I went to a building site. They're building escalators, and I cut my hand on it. I tripped.

Then he gets the phone. I'm, I went to a building site, they're building escalators and I cut my hand on it. I tripped. Then he gets just Luciano gets pushed out, so then he leaves. The next day they come back, the brothers would come back for more answers. But they were told that Danila went to Naples to study for his dentistry exams. What? So they rushed to the police. They were poor at least some missing and the police could not care less. They're like, okay, cool, cool. Sign here at the bottom here. All right, now get out of here.

You know the type of place where the police station was so empty that when they walked in, the police officer looked like, ah, like so annoyed. I have to do my job now. Like, you know, that was the vibe that they were giving. It was just so stressful, so when they get home, they're surprised to see Danilo's sister standing at the front of their house waiting for them.

And she just looks at them with her finger in their faces and says, my brother hasn't done anything. People are saying weird things about my brother now, but he hasn't done anything. Okay, all of this is so strange. So they go back to the police begging them to investigate, okay? Please, just talk to Dinala one time! He's weird, I'm telling you! But the police, they just interrogate the family. Well, maybe your daughter who's 16 ran off with some aunt.

Maybe she's sick of school and she ran off. Maybe you guys are too strict at parenting. Maybe she hates y'all. Maybe you killed her and now you're acting like, oh my God, she disappeared. They're like, what? No, you're wasting time. Go ask Denilo. He was the last one to see her and he has a bandage on his hand.

And guess what? We talk to people so that he had dark stains on his pants. What do you think those dark stains are? And the police straight up told them, yeah, yeah, well, we decide who we get to question. Okay? That's our job, not yours. Now, there was nothing to go off of in this investigation

nor did the police care. The book states this, which I think is super emotional. Nothing is worse than terrible news because nothing accompanies you everywhere. Day after day, month after month, year after year, you keep going, but nothing isies you everywhere. Day after day, month after month, year after year, you keep going, but nothing is ever the same. That's what the family is off with.

So they put up posters everywhere, a friend comes forward and says, you know what? I saw her with this guy, named Aries Gega. He's an Albanian. It's kind of important to the story I guess, that's what I'm doing in there, okay?

And they said, yeah, yeah, this guy, he was interested in her and she just turned him down. He's a little bit older than us, I think, like 20 years old. I saw them together. 20 years, oh, he's 20 years. Yeah. And so they're like, okay, well, where did you see him? And why do you think that he's weird? Because we think Denilo's weird. Why do you think this guy's weird? And she said, well, because I talked to him. I said, Aries, weren't you at the Piazza yesterday? Did you see anything that could have been suspicious? Do you know where Elisa could have been? And she said, why would I know that?

Do you know where Elisa could have been? Like, did you see anything strange? I mean, you know what she looks like. And she's like, why would I know that? Because you were in the Piazza yesterday. I saw you near her, you were in the Piazza. Well, you must have seen mom. And she's like, what? I'm not going crazy.

Like, I saw you in the piazza yesterday. I know exactly what you were wearing. Why are you acting like you were in the piazza yesterday? Why are you lying to my face? So she tells the whole family this. They rush to the police with this information and the police say, well, that's suspicious. Not Aries, but you guys, the family.

I saw what you guys have been doing, putting up those posters, going on local television networks Why are you doing all that huh? Why are you diverting so much attention away from you because we haven't cleared you guys yet She's a little weird to me. Maybe you know where she is Maybe I'm gonna do it. Yeah So this family I mean truly the police could have asked anyone who actually knew this family and they would have they would have laughed They would have been like this is ridiculous and absurd the fact that you think that they would have done something to are they love her This is the family's angel like they really they're tight-knit close-knit family

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Meanwhile, because there's a small, everyone starts knowing about her disappearance, the rumors start getting out of control, and Danilo's dad is not having it. He's thinking this is staining our reputation in this town, so we, attorneys up, gets an attorney, gets Danilo and says, we're going to bring you in to be questioned by the police. We're not going to wait around. You're just going to go up in there, I'm going to be with you, so is the attorney, and you're just going to tell them exactly what happened. So he with you. So is the attorney and you're just gonna tell them exactly what happened So he shows up. Well, we met at church to talk about life

She was talking about how a man was harassing her in the morning and I was talking about how I love this girl named Paula And I'm worried that if I confess it's gonna ruin our friendship You know, so I asked at least such. Do you think Paula likes me? Do you think that I should ask her all like what I know about Paula? But regardless, she said well, she got to meet with Eliana and she left. I stayed in the church to pray. After I was done praying, I thought maybe I should just walk around. I went to a local construction site. I was watching the elevator be done.

They finished, I went on it, and I felt all the way down. That's how you hurt your hand? Yeah, I felt all the way down. That's how you hurt your hand? Yeah, I felt all the way down the escalator. You felt all the way down in the escalator and the only injury that you have is a little scrape on your hand. Did you scrape your glasses where you're wearing those glasses yesterday?

Yeah, I was. Well, it's look at him. Cause they're in pristine condition. Yeah, well, I broke the fall with my hand. That's why it's a bandage shop. Okay, so the police look at the Nellow's dad. They're like, you're a son's an idiot. Can we come to your house and get the clothes that he was wearing yesterday? We heard a witness say that they saw Denilo walking out of the church with some dark stains on his pants

which is kind of checking out. Oh yeah! Sure, sure, coming over, bring the whole squad. So they just skirt-scarred drive on all over to the Denilo house. And and when they get there the mom's like ah what a coincidence I actually just washed them and they're out on the balcony drawing okay man but we still want them and that's when everyone's face is kind of turned a little bit weird and the dad flipped a switch and said well yeah I mean I assume you have a warrant, right? I understood that you consented to hand them over, so there was no need to get one. Well, there is now. And it was just so strange.

I mean, why even offer for them to come to your house, pick up the clothes. So what do you think it is? Truly, they're just expected police say, ah, yeah, you watched the other mind. Oh, yeah, yeah, probably. Now, here's what's pretty. That's really's pretty crazy.

That's really balsy. He's so confident in his, I guess he planned this out, right? I mean, he's so confident in his, I think just his privilege because guess what? Yeah. And she never get a search warrant. They never get the clothes. Why? I don't know.

He's just really powerful. He's really powerful. Yeah. Hmm. And the fact that he brought the son to the police department. Exactly. Crazy. Listen, I'm telling you, this is why the justice system is so bizarre because rich people

just play on a different level. I'm like, what is this? I would never willingly walk into a police station. So there's really not much on Dino's childhood, but we know that his dad is a powerful Sicilian businessman known as one of the most powerful men in the small town of Potenza. Yeah, that powerful. And Denilo was very unlike the rest of his siblings. He's always kind of had a bit of problems.

He's like the black sheep of the family. It's reported that at like camps when he was young he would wake up just screaming in the middle of the night. Then he'd go back to sleep and then scream again. He would take multiple showers a day, very long ones. It's kind of insinuated that he is a hypokondriac. He just thinks that like something's wrong with him all the time that he's really sick, very big on just being a clean freak. He had been arrested before. He had gotten two kids. He's like, come here.

They walk over. They're like 12, okay? He's like, well, let me blindfold you. I've got a surprise for you. You know I'm rich, right? Yeah, well, that sounds like a good surprise. So they let him blindfold them. They tie their hands behind their backs

and he takes them to a secluded area. Then he puts on these surgical gloves, gets a knife, and just cuts one of the kids on the neck with it. It's like slices the neck. Not killing him. No, just like one of the tiny slices. It's not even like slitting the throat. It's just like a slice. Well, the bread knife. A bread knife.

Then he drags them into a shed and locks them in there. So then they escape, one of them has to get stitches. Originally they press charges, but guess what? They settled out of court with a financial sum. We don't know how much. He always try to talk to girls, and he would tell them the weirdest things. Okay, like let's say he's trying to date a girl. What's like the worst thing you should do? That's exactly what he would say.

He'd say, I'm so good at sleeping with bitches. Like, he would just be like, I have this charm. That woman just can't deny. Can you deny it? I bet not. Yeah, he that's exactly what he would do. That he's a manly man, despite his feminine nature. No.

If I'm angry, this is what he's telling to woman. He's trying to say. If I'm angry, I can do anything to anyone. I can be really evil if I want to. The girls are like, you're a serial killer, you're a psychopath. Like, I'm not gonna, we're not gonna date. He would tell them that he has the keys to the kingdom. Literally, the church. He has the keys to all the Catholic churches in the area because his dad is that powerful and he said that he knew all the secrets of what goes on not just in the church and of the higher ups of the church but all of the rich people in town and he could expose all of them. Okay, let's expose them.

Okay, make a YouTube channel, expose them, tweet something bro. What's going on? Psychologically speaking experts said that this guy is just in this weird disguise. He feels like he's inadequate and furrier anxious. He just wants acceptance from people. So he has this big ego, but at the same time, he's so insecure. He probably got it from his dad who is obsessed with historical torture books, like just grew some historical artifacts in books, right? Which is fine. Everyone's got some strange interests,

but when they later searched the house, he just had a ton of sex toys, like really intense sex toys. There's a lot of odd stories, so the teenagers they would come over to play spin the bottle. Who's the teenager? Like their kids.

The Denilo family kids, you know? Oh, his own kids. Yeah. Okay. So these teenagers are coming, hanging out with probably not Denilo, but, you know? Oh, his own kids. Yeah. Okay. So these teenagers are coming, hanging out with probably not Denilo, but like more like his sister, his plane spin the bottle.

And guess who would play in these games? The dad? And the mom. The powerful dad? Yeah, would just be like kissing teenagers. What? Yeah. Like I don't know how this guy

that hasn't been canceled yet. So this kind of proves to show why is the police so incompetent in this town? Is it small town police departments? Like do they not know how to handle investigations? Well maybe they're not. Maybe they're hard at work. For themselves. This is a small enough town where the same handful of people are in charge of everything.

They've got their greedy tentacles everywhere, so in these back rooms, smoking cigars, they could easily swap flavors. The easiest thing that they would do is, hey, I want an investigation to go this way. Thank you. That's it. Now, do they plant evidence? Maybe not. But they just don't investigate certain avenues. And what can you do about it? As someone that's just a normal middle class family like the claps? Yeah, what do they do? Because how do you how do you justify the fact that they didn't get a search warrant for Dino's clothes? Why didn't they even search the church? That was the last place she was seen. Was there blood on the church? Was there anything in the church? They did not even get a search warrant. There's an old Italian saying that says you don't touch the church. Okay, so they they used that as the reason right? Yeah, I mean the church wasn't searched

The police asked the priest in charge Don Mimi if they could search his church and he said no So they just didn't get a warrant. They just moved on now the strange thing about this priest is that all the other churches in the local area and Honestly across Italy at that point they had allowed it for everyone to put this box for anonymous tips. You know, because sometimes church people are in the mindset of like, well, you know, I don't know if I should be involved. So put the anonymous tip in and you can help solve this case. So all these other churches, I mean, they were embracing it.

Yes, whatever we can do, we will even talk about it on Sundays. Well, let people know we have this box, but the church that she was last seen and they absolutely refused. This is the church that the family went to. This is the family church. So the mom, she goes up to him and starts castically says, well thank you for all your help, really. Just so helpful. And he says, I don't know, Danilo. And I didn't know your daughter. And something about this just bothered the crap out of people.

Why did he only use past tense for her? And this is like days since she's gone missing. It's not like years have passed. Wait, what did he say? I don't know, Dinello. And I didn't know your daughter. Oh my gosh. Only days have passed.

It's not like she's presumed dead. Right. That's true. Yeah. Would you say that? I feel like I'd say, oh, I don't really know them. Yeah. I don't know him and I don't know her. So I don't really know what's going on there.

I didn't know her. Yeah, that is odd. Like I understand if it's been months, maybe years, it's like, okay,, well, I think everyone maybe they're under the mindset of like well Well statistically, they're probably not gonna be found. Yeah, but this is like days Now Don Mimi also has a lot of scandals in his work They wouldn't necessarily be scandals if he wasn't a priest But it's speculated through town that he has a mattress and the attic that he has sex with men in Yeah, and because of that all the powerful business men in. Yeah. And because of that, all the powerful businessmen

in the area, they know this, and they somewhat can do whatever they want with Don Mimi. They say, do this. He does it. They reward him. They don't do it. Bad things could happen. It's like a little puppet, an employee, not for God,

but for the rich people. Yes, very should be priest. But another in the area, priest Don Marcello, was like what you would expect in a priest, okay? He worked with a family for over a decade to help them get answers, he felt their pain, he prayed for them, he was there for them, they were really, really close. Just trying to point out there were a lot of good priests too. Now back to Dinello, he was also speculated of having a stalked three teenage girls that lived across the street. You would anonymously call them and say,

hey, I know what you're wearing. You're wearing that yellow dress today. And those police sneakers, and then he would hang up. Then he would leave boxes on their doorstep of just extremely sadistic pornographic images, just like really intense images. There was a letter that once said, boom, how long have you got to live? Sometimes you would call and just play the soundtrack to horror movies. Sometimes he would call and play his favorite, Fur Elise, by Beethoven, for Elise. I don't know, just the name is weird, okay? The book points out, it's a little bit weird.

For Elise, for Alisa. Strange. But his real strangeness was with his hair fetish. Woman's hair in particular. There was a 20 year old dance teacher sitting on the bus. She's coming home from work, she's got her hair in a ponytail, and she feels this huge tug and she's like, ow! She feels like her hair is getting caught in the metal bars between the bus. She's coming home from work, she's got her hair in a ponytail, and she feels this huge tug, and she's like, ow! She feels like her hair is getting caught in the metal bars between the seats. It hurts. She yanks it out, turns around, and she's

trying to see, oh my god, where am I getting caught? And she sees Denilo. And she's like, oh, sorry, and he's like, oh, sorry. Then he gets off. She gets off the bus, and realizes there's a good chunk of her hair missing. Another woman, studying for exams, get on the bus, has really long black hair. She wore it down, and it felt like someone on the bus was just pulling small strands of her hair, not the whole thing, but small sections of her hair. So it'd be like on the left side of her scalp, then the right side, and she turns around finally after a couple of tugs. She's expecting a kid.

Expecting a little kid and be like, hey kid, you don't do that, right? But she sees Dinello. What the heck? I mean, I feel like here is so sensitive. You even pull one little hair. People notice, so what the hell is he doing? So she's like, look the heck and she smelled something. She's like, what does that smell?

And she had this like sticky residue in her hair. It's not, I don't think it's sperm. She said it's felt like a, it's not like oil, some sort of oil. She just got off that bus like that's, that's so bizarre. There were chunks of her and meh hair missing too. There was a man who was on the bus and he saw it happen once. There's this girl with just super long hair sitting down

and a man behind her had his jacket in his lap and Swifferly he just cuts a chunk of her hair off puts it back under that jacket and Does the up and down motion and it's clear that this dude is masturbating on the bus With the hair yeah So a lot of women would later come forward in a lot of different countries about hair-cutting stories. Yeah, cuz he's gonna be a little international bitch.

When they later asked Danilla, why are you doing this? He said, well, it all started on a dare. My friends had dared me to cut off a girl's hair on the bus and I did it. And they were like, wow, you're so cool, dude, you're so bad. And then they did it again, they dared me and I did it again and again. And then I never stopped, even when they weren't there. He wanted to smell the hair. But he was born with like an impaired sense of smell.

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They were just all over the place. Wow, you got international. International, Albania. Then there were some strange tips like they would call the family saying, why? I have a list of, she's been kidnapped. I want a quarter million dollars. But it would turn out that he was lying. The police arrested him and he said, well, I wanted to make quote-unquote easy money.

I don't know how this is easy. It's definitely not easy on your conscience or your soul or... Easy money, he said. And he was arrested. But this killed the family because it's like retraumatizing them. First of all, how could this happen to our daughter? Second of all, why don't the police care? Third of all, how is the world so cruel? They begged the police to do something. Please just do anything and they looked at Alyssa's mom and said, what more do you want? When are you

going to finally understand that your daughter has run away from home? What do you want us to do about it? So she got up from that police station, took off her shoe and started throwing it at the police officers. I love her. I love her. I mean, rightfully so. And the family was quoted with saying the only reason to continue living was to fight the battle for Alyssa. Everything else was irrelevant. And because of this, because of their powerful words and like just thumping in the press, people started gringo hazy. The public started hating this case. A 16-year-old from humble backgrounds, no record, not hanging out with the wrong crowd, goes missing last scene in a Catholic church. And she's not found? There's no hope for anyone

now. Because that's majority of Italians, you know? How is the justice system working if she can't even be found? Some people said, wouldn't it know it's not Denilo? She's actually pregnant with a priest love child. Yeah, there were conspiracies. She was killed by a priest and they're just blaming on Denilo. Oh, you know what? That new construction place that they had with the escalators that he went to go see?

I bet she's buried under the escalators. No, she was killed by the Italian Mafia. You don't know her dad's a police informant. I bet she's buried under the escalators. No, she was killed by the Italian mafia. You don't know her dad's a police informant. So 13 years pass. It would be 9 until something else happens, but 13 years will pass. Everyone but the family and their close loved ones move on. They do get a small plaque at the church for a list that says Along this route on the 12th of September, a list of claps disappeared at a distance of 13 years the city remembers a list

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Heather Barnett, everyone calls her bunny because of her personality. She just was so outgoing. Had this energy that made everyone want to be her friend, she wasn't necessarily the life of the party. But she knew how to make people feel loved. Does that make sense? If I could describe someone as a warm hug, it was Heather. She was a single mom.

She had been married to a man, had two kids with him, Terri and Caitlin. But they started fighting and Heather really just wanted to be a good mom. She's like, OK, these kids are watching their parents fight the whole time. This is not a good mom. She's like, okay, these kids are watching their parents fight the whole time. This is not a pleasant upbringing. We have to do something so she breaks up with our husband.

She's living alone, working as a seamstress in her house on commissions. She would sew sweaters, curtains, rugs, whatever. She loved it. Made no money. Like, really no money. But she loved that she could work from home, spend time with her kids. She just felt safe. She was so frugal and so responsible and just so doting on her kids that when she was sowing

for long hours, she would only listen to the radio. She wouldn't even turn on the TV because she wanted to save on the electricity bill. And she especially loved it. Now they were 14 and 11 years old. It's like the age where you kind of become friends with your kids, you know? Just a really good time for her. So that particular morning, she wakes up early and their cat had been sick, taking care of this sick cat and then realizes on damn it, it's raining. Okay, fine kids, I'm not going to make you walk in the rain. Come on, get in the car, I'll give you guys a ride.

And she locks up the house before she leaves. This is important, she had always been careful of safety, she works from home. She told her kids, I can't afford to not lock the doors. I can't afford to, for a break in because my sewing kids, my machine, I can't afford to replace it. Drops them off, kisses them goodbye. Gets back home, unlocks the door.

And then 3.30 p.m., the kids run home from school. The door is unlocked. That's really unlike their mom. She's really careful about these things. Mom, hi mom, we're home! Nothing. What? They hear the radio's on. The sewing machine is plugged in, but it's been knocked over on the table. So the younger one, Caitlin, she starts looking for mom.

Mom, mom checks in the kitchen, checks in the bedroom. Now there's only one room left to check, which is a bathroom. She goes in and Terry describes her as going ballistic. Just starts screaming. So Terry rushes over and there was their mom lying covered in blood mutilated. So at first they're sobbing and then Terry said something strange happened. He's 14. This kid is 14. He felt calm. More calm than he had ever had in his life. This is probably for his sister. Like, he's really brave.

So he takes charge, calls the emergency, right? Calls down on one. They're coming. And he says, my mom has been murdered. This is not a joke. They cut pieces off of her. She's dead. Gives the address.

Then he continues to sob and they run out of the house. Thankfully, at that time, a car drives by. And it's their neighbor. So the wife, like, jumps out and is like, gives the address. Then he continues to sob and they run out of the house. Thankfully, at that time, a car drives by and it's their neighbor. So the wife, like, jumps out and is like, what's wrong, kids? Like, what's going on? And the husband gets out. And the kids know them because they literally live across the street.

My mom, my mom, my mom is dead, right? So they stay with the neighbors until the police arrive. Now, who are their neighbors? The kids knew them as the nice Italian man. That they called Danny, Danilo Restivo. Oh my god. The police rushed to the crime scene and they said it was one of the worst things that they had ever seen.

Heather was lying there, hit on the head with what seemed like a hammer. The murder weapon was no longer there. Her bra had been cut off and her breasts had been severed off in place next to her. There was hair in both her hands. She did have defensive wounds in her hands and I think we've talked about this before. Sometimes you will find a lot of hair in um, in victim's hands because if you're trying to cover your head from blunt force trauma, sometimes you'll yank out your own hair But it's not hair from defending yourself They're like clumps of hair in both her hands. It's almost like an extension, you know

So they run it under a microscope, and it's not been pulled off by the roots But there's such a clean edge to the hair that indicates that it's been cut off by scissors But she's holding it. Yeah, it's been cut off by scissors. But she's holding it. Yeah, it's been placed in her hand. Oh. Two sets of hair. Now this is where it gets stranger. DNA results showed that only one clump was her own hair.

The other from an unidentifiable woman. It was not her DNA. That is crazy. Someone had brought someone else's hair to the crime scene and place it in her hair Yes, in her head. This is like some bizarre Ritualistic killing. They're like this is not normal. They test the hair Can you believe this? I didn't know you could get this much out of hair But that person the unidentifiable person recently traveled to Spain

Maybe the South of France and recently went to Tampa, Florida. And I changed their diet twice. Oh, they know the location they've traveled by here. Yeah, by here. But they don't know the identity. No, because it's DNA. They just know it's not a match for her, but they didn't have this person in like a database, I guess.

Wow. Yeah, so they have nothing to go on. They're freaking out. The murder, weapons are are gone the injuries were bad I mean there were parts the trauma There had was so bad that they could see brain matter that was exposed the airway was completely cut her arteries were severed The killing wasn't medical in nature, but it's not someone with medical knowledge is what I'm saying But it is someone who had control. It's not like this frenzy arm so mad

It was like this person somewhat planned this out. They were in care. They did every action because they wanted to. Her jeans were undone and pulled down, but there were no injuries to her genitalia. There were no signs of a break in. So either this person had their own key or more likely they were let in by Heather. They determined that the shoes of the attacker were bloody night geese. So they questioned 14-year-old Terry, who really honestly had it together. Well recently we changed our locks. Okay Terry, why would you change your locks? One day I forgot my spare key and my mom had kind of hooked it over the door inside our house, you know, like a my little key ring. And a neighbor came by asking her to sew some curtains for them and then the key went missing.

So she was kind of freaked out and mom decided, okay, let's just change the locks. So the mom is just beckoning the neighbor's toilet? Yes, she even wrote a letter to Danny's wife saying, Hello, your husband came by asking about curtains. He might have accidentally taken the key I placed on the door. I can't find it anywhere. It was red. It was a red plastic tag attached to it a key ring. Let me know.

Crazy. She also emailed her friend saying, My key went missing. I mean, it's so strange. I think it's the weird Italian guy across the way that took it. I don't know, just bizarre. So the police did they did go to Danny's, right, they asked for DNA samples from him and his wife, which he does give,

and they asked him, wait, before we leave, what shoes were you wearing yesterday? Oh, they're over there. My Nike's. Can we see him? And he looks. They're soaking in bleach. And the police take the shoes, but there's not much more you can do.

You can't arrest people for bleaching your shoes. They did find trace amounts of blood inside the Nike shoes, but DNA couldn't be pulled. It could technically be his blood, like if you were to hurt your toe inside your shoe. So they asked for an alibi. He had a bus ticket that showed him traveling to his computer classes And at the computer class the login books showed that he was around there at the time of the murder which means he has an alibi, right? So finally a year passes no one's arrested

People just move on with life the police decide to go through Heather's computer That's when they find the email that she sent to her friend about Danny taking the keys and for whatever reason, they're like, okay, let's just Google this guy. Because you know, this guy, we just kept putting him off because he's so, he seems dumb, honestly. You know, he seems, he seems weak, too weak to do something like this. It's like a, it's a crazy crime. But now they were intrigued. So, the Google his name turns out he's the main person of interest in a missing person's

case in Italy. What are the odds? Should have used Google. Yeah, so they go back and retraces alibi. Yes, he had a bus ticket, but that's it. Technically, he could have gotten off the very next stop instead of going all the way to his destination. This bus ticket doesn't say that he got to the destination just that he bought it. Yeah. Which means that he would just have an eight minute walk back to his place. Or to Heather's place, then the login book for the computer lab had been tampered with. So he had wrote the time

and he had scratched it out and wrote it differently. They put the guy under surveillance. He's acting weird. It feels like he's either trying to figure out if he's being watched or watching someone himself, making sure he doesn't get caught. He would go to these isolated parks, just watch people all day. Hot summer day wearing gloves, a hold on top of his head. Sometimes he would go into the car, change into the same exact shirt that he had on. Steering at woman. Then the twelfth of that month came.

And he was wearing waterproof pants, walking around the park, and his demeanor was so alarming that they sent in police officers. Hey, uh, we're investigating a theft at the park. And he starts sweating bullets, literally. Well, not literally, but a lot. They asked to check his car, and in the trunk they find jackets and trash bags in the backseat a large filet knife tissues gloves a ski mask and scissors so why do you have this knife at the park with you I saw it on the ground where the kids play and I thought the kids gonna hurt itself so I picked it up he had no idea that they had been watching him the whole time. He did not pick up anything.

Yeah. You idiot. So a month later, he was arrested. The news makes it back to Italy, specifically to the CLAPS family. And Judo goes all the way to the United Kingdom. And within three days, he's released. Because they didn't have any more solid evidence. And he didn't confess. So they let him go. And the police police said you know what's crazy about this guy Zero to 10 the level of fear that you see on suspects. Mm-hmm. Never pass zero. He just didn't care

He's sure no fear. Yeah, none Just bizarre so judo elissa's older sister goes out there, finds his house, and says, Oh yeah, run away as much as you want. Get it into your shitty head that you won't ever have a place to hide. You've seen how far I've come to find you? I've come to remind you that you'll pay for what you did to my sister. He said this time. So March 2010, the church in Italy has some visitors. There's some leaky ceilings, okay? So they got some maintenance workers to come in, to check it out, check out the attic,

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If someone saw a flower in October, they would stop and fix it. They would literally be driving their car, get out and fix it because it was for Alyssa. Alyssa was everyone. Alyssa was your daughter, Alyssa was your future mom, Alyssa was your sister. This is your girlfriend. Alyssa is, this is just such a normal teenager who had a life ahead of her and how did this happen? There was graffiti drawn all over the walls that said Don Mimi knew the priest.

Because this is his church, he's the only one with the keys. The whole thing was confusing. How was she there the whole time? Why was the church not even searched? I mean, people just kind of assumed that the church had been searched by the police. Who knew about it? A church is not like your house They had to be more people who know Who's covering it up do the higher up snow?

This is like a do we got to investigate the Catholic church as a whole or is it just one bad priest or is it all the priest like what's going on? Near this is body. They found a mattress with semen stains on it None of them were dinello, but it seemed like someone in fact was doing nasty stuff in church. At this point, Don Mimi had passed. And it was around this time that it came out that two cleaners actually knew about the body, too. That they alerted the priest. This was like months before the actual finding of a List's body. And they were terrified to say anything anything the new priest denied all the accusations

Oh my god when they Did they tell me that it was a cranium? Which is like a skull? Did they tell me it was a cranium? I heard! I heard a Ukrainian! Are you Cranian? Is the attic? Yeah, yeah, it gets where we found a the attic. A Cranian. And he was like, oh my God, those

Ukrainians, they need to be, they need to stop being in the attic. What? Yeah. What kind of... Yeah, bizarre. And the family was like, that's the best you could do. Like, you couldn't even, what are you saying? Yeah. Someone had even sought off a hole in the ceiling above Alyssa so that her decompt, you know, the gases, they had a place to escape.

And on Alyssa's clothes, there was a tiny speck of DNA. It was sent to a local professor who said, it is not Danilo's blood. But because of the public outrage, they got a second opinion. Turns out, it was Denilo's blood and that professor was arrested. When was this? This was in 2010. So you're saying that's 13 years after?

Yes, she passed in 1993. This was in 2010? Yeah, they found her body. That's 17 years? Yeah. Holy cow. So, around this time, the United Kingdom authorities start working with the Italian authorities and the UK They also have a speck of blood that was found on Heather Barnett and it was a one and fifty they kind of assumed that it was

Danilo the probability of it not being Danilo was one and fifty thousand. So it's something right? So the trial takes place right? He gets arrested again and this time he's going to trial and elicit family. They were happy They wanted him to get a life sentence in prison in the UK because that's where he has no power They're worried that if they give him a small sentence. He's extra-diad He's tried in Italy. His dad has connections Maybe he can weasel his way out of prison when everyone forgets about him That's true So they they show up in the UK and there was the way that there were supposed to be sitting was so that they were out of you from the defendant

Mm-hmm, but she fought hard This is mom fought hard To be in the view to be right in front of him protecting like right behind him essentially Wow, she said I have to have him know that I'm there. During the trial, they asked a bunch of questions and he had just stupid answers for everything. Why did you bleach your shoes? Well, silly me. I got the English and the Italian mixed up and I thought the bleach said soap.

You take one sniff, you idiot. Like I don't. Okay. They find a lock of hair in a bag in his house. Uh-huh. Right, and he had a picture of another woman that was missing in his possession, and they were like, well, what's going on with that? There was also questions about a Korean woman in the United Kingdom who was killed four

months before Heather on the 12th of that month. What's going on on the 12th? That's just his killing day? It seems like it's like some sort of ritual. And so he went on the stand and he talked passionately about his many illnesses. Well, I've got this problem. That's why my voice is so high. Well, I've got this problem. That's why my eyes are always bulging. Well, I dislocated my shoulders. Just non-stop, okay?

Why did you have a ski mask? Because my illness! What? So sometimes my car heater can stop, you know? And I can't get cold. So I just uh, stop the car. And I put on the ski mask for warmth. The jury audibly giggled at this because... That's like the stupidest... What about the knife?

What about the knife, huh? We know that you don't pick it up. Oh yeah, I lied about that. But uh, I have a pet lizard so I go around collecting insects and I put them in the bags. That's why I have the bags and I use the knife to kill them Killed the insects with a knife Precisely to feed his pet lizard Why do you have hair in your drawer at home? I dressed up as a Mexican for a party. I wish I was lying

I dressed up as a Mexican for a party. I wish I was lying. I dressed up as a Mexican for a party and I needed it for a mustache. Yeah. Okay. First of all, what kind of party? Second of all, canceled. Third of all. Like, if you're lying about other things, maybe you should lie about that one. I don't know. Yeah. This doesn't even make sense. Yeah. So I went on the bus and chopped off some fresh hair from a woman to make a mustache to make a mustache out of it. Like, yeah. They also asked for this hair. Does he think everybody's dumb or he's so that's where there was a huge debate. People said he's so stupid that everyone was confused. How did he get away with it for so

long? Yeah. Someone who's so stupid. But the people that have been following the case said he's not stupid. This has always been his strategy. He looks like the village idiot and people underestimate him, but he's actually very clever. So you know when someone acts so stupid, that when they finally say something like, murder is bad, everyone's like, you know what,

you're an idiot, but I'm kind of on her with this one and it's like It's a bare minimum of just being a functioning human in society, but people will be like, you know what? Wow Normally you're kind of weird, but like good on you The 11 year old Caitlin who found her mom Heather Barnett She um gave an impact statement during the trial. She said, I used to have flashbacks. I don't like going into bathrooms. I'm worried that someone's waiting for me, or just what's behind that door.

My mom is no longer able to help me celebrate my successes and to pull me through the disappointments. I will never get the chance to tell her how much I love her and how much I miss her. I feel great anger at the accused. Without him, she would still be here. How could he intrude into our safe and happy family home and then take everything away from us in such a horrific and callous way? And the judge told them that they will be taking into consideration that the fact that he knew that these kids would come home to find their mom, to find their mutilated mom, and then

he hugged them after. This is not only disgusting, but it's depraved. It's not even human. They found him guilty, and the judge ruled a sentence of life without parole. But he did appeal now he has parole in 40 years, his minimum sentence of 40 years. But you're saying that there are a lot of other people that he has to go because there are other missing people. Yeah. And he was found with a picture of a missing person. Yeah. The South Korean woman in the UK, she was killed on the 12th of the month. And someone did go to trial for her murder

But it was always so wishy-washy And the main reason that someone was arrested and charged and convicted with her murder was because the South Korean government was putting a lot of pressure on the UK To solve it. Yeah, so they just kind of rushed into it. The only witness was a with someone who was, not very credible, she had lied to the police before. So, I mean, that's not really the... I mean, that also coming, there are someone innocent in jail. Yeah.

Oh, man. Yeah. Cause it just, I mean, that case is weird too. It just doesn't make sense. A lot of people are under the belief that this person, don't get me wrong, the person sitting in jail for the South Korean person's murder is probably not a great person, but most people accept that, but don't necessarily think that he killed her. Really? It's just weird. It's not a case that got a lot of attention, but it's just weird,

like the one witness, someone who is known for lying and then all the pressure that the Korean government had been giving on to the UK. They rushed into this with very itty circumstantial evidence. Even some of, um, attorneys who saw this case, they looked at it and they were shocked. They said, were shocked that a jury would convict, but the jury found him guilty. They said we were shocked. That a jury would convict after this little evidence. They thought for sure, no. Like lawyers who had no skin in the game. We're just like, that's weird.

So that's it. He's in jail now. Has he shown any remorse? Has he actually changed? No. He did say, sorry for all the girls hair that I cut. I Think it was illegal if I was hurting them my bad like pretty much like oops Yeah, he was like if I had known that cutting hair was bizarre. I probably wouldn't have done it like very casual Definitely read the book because it's so detailed. It goes deep into the South Korean case, it goes deep into all of these other potential missing women's or murders. It's just bizarre.

And the psychology of the hair cutting, it goes deep. So give it a read. It's called Blood on the Alter, so good. And yeah, what are your thoughts on this one? I hope you guys enjoyed this week's mini-sode and I'll see you guys on Wednesday. Bye. And, um, yeah, what are your thoughts on this one? I hope you guys enjoyed this week's mini-show,

and I'll see you guys on Wednesday. Bye!