Rotten Mango - A Gardener And His "Butterflies" (Kidnapped Women He's Desperate To Preserve) BAM EPISODE

Episode Date: October 24, 2020

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Welcome back to another Bacon Amistry where we bake some goods on YouTube at Miss Mingle but just in case you guys are only listening to the audio and Rotten Mango podcast. It's bacon and mystery. Well I bake something, I tell you about a little bit of a mystery that I recently read. Honestly, you know what I wish I could be telling you about. Let me give you a little bit of a low down on something that I have been continuously obsessed with since the day that this was released. If you guys have not watched HBO's Max's murder at White House farms, I don't know what the

fork you're doing right now because you need to go and you need to watch it right now. So this is a mystery that most Americans have never heard about, which is kind of mind-boggling because you are talking about almost an entire family was murdered in one night. And I mean, there was only one surviving family member who is, I mean, at this prison so controversial, there's so much intrigue and mystery in this. So think about it. It starts off simple and you think, you know what?

I know how this story goes. I know exactly what I'm talking about right now, which is the fact that, hey, there is a woman by the name of Sheila. She was inside of this farm with her family members, her two sons. She was inside of this farm with her family members, her two sons. She was diagnosed with schizophrenia. So obviously, she killed her family and then killed herself. That's what the police said. That's what they firmly believed until lots of evidence started coming forward.

First of all, there was so much questions and still is to this day about, are the police even handling the evidence in this case correctly and second of all the shotgun itself was too long for Sheila to use it on herself. So how could you even, how does that, so then you're like okay fine Sheila didn't murder her family and then kill herself. Then who did, who murdered all of them? I mean it's really mind boggling first, you think you know something and every single episodes of this mini series called Murder on White House Barnes by HBO Max, it just like the

mystery gets deeper and deeper and the minute that you're like, I know it was poppin', they're like, no, you don't. And if you guys are into Game of Thrones, there's actually three familiar faces that are gonna be in this series and it's just highly binge-bendable. This is probably one of the most binge-bend, like, recreations of a crime that I've ever watched in my entire life. And you guys know how passionately I feel about podcasts. They actually have a podcast that goes with it so they have like different episodes that focus on different things and they interview people. It's so good. I mean this whole project was just done so masterfully. So if you guys are interested in HBO Max or if you haven't signed up already, I'm gonna leave all of their links in the description and thank you HBO Max for sponsoring today's bacon on this story

So we're gonna make some rice crispy treats today with my rice crispy shirt And I'm gonna be talking about Dodge Hutchinson's butterfly garden. I'm gonna first Bit so first of all this book this is to be kind of an angry rant plus a baking of mystery because there are certain parts of this book that I am so absolutely incredibly upset about. And I don't know if I should point them out now or if I should point them out at the end. There's going to be a lot of times, if you guys, I don't know if I recommend people read this book.

The story itself is so good. There's just a couple of things that I have a little bit of a pickle about. And I think a lot of it comes from the fact that I'm obsessed with true crime. And so when you are reading a crime story, when you're already so obsessed with true crime, and your day-to-day is obsessed with like learning the procedures of a true crime, like learning all of these things. And that's just a lot. Okay, so this book, I got it because of this. There's an isolated mansion, an inside of the mansion, there's this garden. And there's someone called the gardener. That's the serial killer's name.

He likes to kidnap little girls off the street of New York City, bring them into his garden and he turns them all into butterflies so that he could keep them forever. There is no weird science thing to it. He just tattoos butterflies into them and then he kills them. And it's- Since when the actual butterflies- No, he tattoos tattoos butterflies into them and then he kills them. And it's- It seems like the actual butterflies.

No, he tattoos giant butterfly wings onto their back. He lets them roam around in his little garden and then he kills them. Wow. And that's why it's called the butterfly garden. Exactly. I had the same reaction. I read the description and I was like, Oh, so I bought it. I bought it.

And now what happens in this one is a bit of a 50 shades of gray meets a serial killer type of situation And I just don't know how I feel about it. Okay, there are certain parts of the story where I think the author was trying to make the Assault less um intense so they just kind of breeze through the assault and then they talk about all the other stuff that happens in the garden So it almost makes you kind of like the gardener at certain parts in the book. And I'm not the only one that had a little bit of a pickle with that, because it almost kind of makes the gardener seem like a pretty chill ass dude. And he's wealthy, he's a loaded, and you're like, shhigazate, and then you're like, oh just kind of he's a serial killer, but then you almost forget, because he's like written about us like this really cool mysterious man, he looks like George Clooney type of vibe and then you're like, wait a second, this is not okay.

But anyways, the story itself, if you can get past that, if you can get past the fact that somehow the author makes you not wanna punch the serial killer in the face like repeatedly the whole time, then you're gonna love this book because honestly the plot holy cow, let's get started. So it all starts with FBI agent Victor. Now the whole book is kind of told

after one of the butterflies, well all the butterflies escape. So they catch the serial killer and now the FBI agent is questioning one of the butterflies. Also, what are you making? I'm baking rice crispy spit. Oh, I got a melt chocolate, thanks.

So I'm making rice crispy monsters. So what you do is melt chocolate, thanks. So I'm making rice crispy monsters. So what you do is you get rice crispy treats and then you get some white chocolate and then you put some food coloring in there and then you dip it, sprinkle it, you know these little candy eyeballs, stick them. Stick them. Stick them.

I'm gonna microwave this real quick, hold on. Oh, so I microwave the chocolate, okay? Now we're adding some orange food coloring, then we're gonna add some green food coloring in the spirit of Halloween. But let's get into the story. So FBI agent Victor, he is interviewing one of the butterflies and all of them have been kind of rescue. The FBI is just finding out about the serial killer. They had just arrested everyone involved. I mean, it's kind of a show. So the reason that they're interviewing this one girl, we don't even know her name yet. Let's call her Maya because that was the name given to her at the butterfly garden because the

gardener likes to rename all of his butterflies. So her name is Maya and she's being held for questioning. The doctor said that she's a little bit banged up, she's bandaged everywhere, she's got the giant butterfly tattoo on her back and FBI agent Victor knows this because he heard from the other agents that he's working on the case with that every single girl has a different butterfly on their back, like a different species of butterfly even. So, I mean, it's just all a little bit creepy. And so the reason that he's interviewing Maya in particular, not the rest of the girls because all of them are at the hospital is because for some reason, the FBI has an inkling that could she be involved in this somehow

They can't say for sure that Maya herself is just a full victim like what she recruiting girls There's just something about her that's alarming all the other girls keep looking to her as leadership None of them none of the other girls will even talk to their parents in the hospital until they talk to Maya first So there's just some weird shit going on, especially because he's watching her through the little interrogation room right now and he feels like, you know, is she really reacting? Like a victim would react like she doesn't seem

all that traumatized. She seems a little bit sassy, a little bit intense right now more than anything. So he goes in and he introduces himself as FBI agent Victor and he starts asking her questions about the butterfly garden. And the reason that she's not really scared of talking to the FBI that she said is because, you know, she talked to the gardener and I feel like that's scarier. So you get an idea that this gardener dude, the serial killer, is kind of a creepy man like he's really intense, he's scarier than the FBI. So we get into our little story a little bit and she says that she doesn't have anyone to call to. She refuses to give her name, she refuses to give her age.

They think that she's anywhere between 16 and 22, but not much else. Like she's just saying like, are we done? Like, can you let me go? So they start questioning her more and they ask her, like, why are you not scared of talking to us? Like, why are you so chill right now? And she says it's no different from talking to the gardener and they're like you talk to the dude's gardener And she's like no the dude is the gardener So then we get a POV into what Maya experienced so she said that she was kidnapped and she woke up in this cold rooms Just drugged up all she remembered is that she had this massive headache,

the floor was cold, she was completely naked, and she was coming to, and she heard this voice, and she couldn't even open her eyes. Like she felt like this was the worst hangover that she's ever had in her entire freaking life, and she hears a voice that says, hey, hey, take some Advil here, drink this glass of water. And the first thing she realized was that she was so shocked that she had been kidnapped first of all but second of all it was a girl's voice and she's like what and so she wakes up she takes them at the end she's looking around and she's like what is this and the other girl who's wearing this black little like sleek dress it almost looks like a designer dress of sorts you You know, she's saying things like it's okay It's okay. The gardener doesn't want to see you yet

And she's like what are you talking about and she says here. Let me get you up So she gets up she gives her another of the matching same black dress now this black dress is almost like a silk dress It's a camisole and it covers most in the front and it goes all the way down to either your knees or the ground And the back is Completely bare so it like loops down like a silk drapey like cocktail dress and it touches right above your little butt cheek And she's like why do I have to wear this like this is really strange and she walks outside and there's multiple doors Inside of this hallway and as they walk outside she walks into one of the biggest a-trams She's ever seen in her life like a greenhouse almost

There's literally a 20-foot man-made waterfall in the center of it There's real butterflies that are flying around. There's literally birds There's trees and there's a pond and she's like what the fork is this? Why did I get kidnapped to come to like the best Vegas hotel that I've ever seen in my fucking life? Is this the belagio? You know, she's a little bit confused and the girl says where his butterflies and the girl turns around and Mya sees literally giant butterfly wings covering the entire girl's back tattooed on That's why the dress. That's why the dress.

That's why the dress. She has nothing yet. Nothing yet. And so for the first week that she's there, she's drugged up the entire time. And the girl's name we learn is Lynette, but we're going to call her Lynne because for some reason I have a really freaking hard time saying the word Lynette.

So Lynne, she's been there for a couple years now. She was also kidnapped and she said, don't tell me your name because it doesn't matter The Gardner will give you a new name once your wings are done And she said you might as well just forget your old name because it really does not matter So Lynette explains that the butterfly garden the first week that you're there the Gardner wants to see if you're gonna acclimate well, right? So he keeps you drugged up

He puts pills in your lunch, breakfast, dinner, everything like that, and you're just looping out of it because a lot of girls have actually tried to throw themselves off of the 25-foot pond in order to end their lives, and sometimes it has been successful. So Lynette says, don't try to kill yourself because it's not gonna be good for anyone, and so she's just drugged up the rest of the week, and she's really confused like, what's going on? How does someone have this amount of money and what do you mean worth a butterflies? Like why are we called butterflies? She also notices that multiple times a week

that every single door, so she gets her own little room and it just has a bed, it has a shower and a sink and a toilet and like a little bookcase. That's it, so she has her own room, Lynn has her own room and a couple times a week there's these metal frames that come down and hide those doors and she asks Lynn about it And she said it makes it look like just a regular hallway Instead of making it look like there's actually doors behind it It's soundproof and the reason that these doors exist is because the gardener has his

actual gardeners come in twice a week to take care of the garden. And the butterflies can't be seen by the real gardeners. Oh my God, this is so trippy. Yeah, look at how cute. That's cute. That's cute. And the crazy thing is there's a ton of other girls there. So Lynn said that he has about 20 butterflies

at any given time. And they're all there being held captive. They've all been kidnapped. They all have new names. Don't ask them about their old names because you could get killed if you talk about your old life here. You have to just act like a fine butterfly. And she says that none of the new butterflies like get talked to by the old butterflies. So the 20 butterflies that are there, they won't talk to the new girl because it's too stressful. It's too stressful for them to re-go through the phase of like someone being confused or someone being like,

when do I get out of here, right? Because they've all been here for years and they're like, well, you don't get out of here. Nobody gets out of here. And so they just don't talk to her. And Lynn is kind of like this like mother of the garden. She's kind of the one that's like here. Let me guide you through.

Let me tell you it's gonna be okay, even though it's really not gonna be okay. And so finally, after that week, Maya wakes up on a cold table. She had been knocked out by her pills in her dinner and she wakes up on a cold table. And that's when she gets to meet the gardener for the first time.

He is a middle aged man. He is relatively handsome, but he's not like ugly and creepy looking. He looks like a normal business dude, you know? And there's one thing about him that she immediately notices is the fact that he's incredibly meticulous. He likes to do everything in an order, he has a plan for everything, and he shows her this

massive butterfly tattoo, and he says, are you scared of needles? Because I can drug you up for this process, and she said no. So he decides to show her the picture, and this was like a specific butterfly species and everything and it was horrendously beautiful. That's how she could describe it. Like it was technically beautiful but it was also so horrendous. It's almost like if you guys have ever seen a butterfly up close in person, they're kind of scary.

You know, like when you see them from afar, it's flying. It's beautiful. But then when you see them up close and then you see all of like the hairs and like this and that it's almost kind of terrifying for some reason. And she said that's how she felt about the rings. There were so many details. It was so ornate. It was so intense and she just she didn't know what to do. She just kind of was like, okay, why? And he told her, you know, because this is a butterfly garden and you guys are my butterflies. And she even said, you know, is there any way to make this a metaphorical thing? Like, can I just get some like little wings I can put on? Like, do you really have to tattoo my whole

thing back for this? And he said, you know, I think this is why Lynn likes you. She's just as sassy as you, right? Or something like that. And he puts her down on the table and he starts tattooing her. And this is a process that would take weeks. Now, she was to stay away from the other girls. She wasn't allowed to be given a name until she had her full set of wings until they had fully healed and they were ready to go and she was ready to be a real butterfly. She had to stay away from them. She had to take all of her breakfast, lunch, and dinners by herself and Lynn would come and she would hang out with her and she would rob little ointments on there and he was just a meticulous tattooer. Everything he did, like the way that he would do everything, put the needle away, get the ink. Everything was done in such a weird meticulous way that she just, it was just frightening.

And she was starting to get scared because she realized that not once did she ask the guy if it was okay if she didn't have these butterfly wings. Like he just did it to her and she never really tried to fight back like it just happened. She was scared to find out what would happen if she said no to the wings. Oh that's cute! So the FBI director is like, okay, like what's your name? Like you haven't told us anything. Like we're trying to figure out who the other girls are. We got a lot of their names in the hospital. You refused to give the hospital your name.

You keep telling us that your name is Maya, but we know that that's just the name that the butterfly person gave you. Like what's your friggin name? And they asked her, okay fine. If you don't want to tell us your name, what was your life like before all of this? Like what did you do something? Like were you in school? Were you in college?

Can you tell us that, right? And she said that life before the butterfly garden, because she had been there for about two and a half years, was that she used to work at a restaurant in New York City. She went to this very busy Italian restaurant, literally the owner of the restaurant. He was this really sweet guy. He was amazing. He was an amazing boss. And he would pretend to have this thick Italian accent.

And all day, he would talk in this thick accent to all of his employees and then at night after they close They'd be like okay like all the customers are gone and be like oh, thank god because he felt like the people would like it more If it was a real Italian owner that owned the restaurant and so he would pretend to be like this crazy Italian owner Right and so she starts working there She was pretty much homeless like staying at shelters at the time And all of the hostesses in the waitresses said, hey, you know, like, you're a nice person. Do you want to come live with us? Like, we share this one little loft, and it's literally just eight beds, like right next to each other, with like a locker at the end of the bed. And I mean, it's like $200 a month. All the

utilities are paid. It was not bad. Most of them were students that were working at the restaurant and there was also one person who was the mom of the girl, her name was Sophia. And she was a retired hooker. She has two children. She was also a drug addict that she was recovering from doing drugs. So she just wanted to get clean

so that she could have her daughters back. And it was kind of nice. Sophia would go through all of these little moments where she wanted to do drugs again. And what they would do is they would literally stick her into a taxi Go to her foster care house and the foster parents were amazing like they were so good at Sophia So they would just let her in and let her see her daughters and she would all of that need which is kind of dissipate So she remembers it sucked. I mean it was real weird. Like there was a dude who would literally camp outside of their apartment door Like not even the apartment complex door, but their loft door who would just like camp outside trying to get in

So they would always like if they got home late at night They would go up to the roof climb down the fire escape and climb through the window into their loft So they were like it's not necessarily the best thing ever was honestly really shit There was lots of roaches in the apartment, but now looking back, she said it was like heaven. And so the directors were like, okay, so tell us about how you got the name Maya then. And she said it happened when her wings were fully done.

So all of the tattoo was done. There was some detailing that was still healing, but majority of it had already healed. And that's when he took a good look at the tattoo, the gardener, and he flipped her over on her back and he said, now it's time to give this butterfly a name and he chose the name Maya and he would grant Maya as he, you know, assaulted her for the first time. So that would be the first time all the butterflies get assaulted is once their wings are done. Yeah, but then it gets weirder. And so after her tattoo is done, she's considered to be acclimated, which means that all the other butterflies are gonna kind of come talk to her because it doesn't

look like she's gonna die anytime soon because if you say no to the gardener or if you're throwing tantrums for the first couple of weeks that you're there, something bad happens to you. Like you're throwing tantrums for the first couple of weeks that you're there Something bad happens to you like you're not gonna be there anymore And so the girls finally start talking to her and one of the first girls that she met was named bliss So this is all literally the gardener's name so that's not her real name So she hates her fucking name bliss, right? But whatever she's like it's fine That's what he calls me. I let him call me that because I don't want to die And so she needs bliss and they all have a different species of butterfly wings on their back

And she's just kind of like thrown off by this like what is wrong with this place? Like how are you guys just acting like this is normal every day life like? Oh, what is your butterfly species? Like what does it look like and they're just looking at it? They're like oh, he calls me bliss and they never talk about their life before they never talk about trying to escape Like they just kind of accepted it and bliss had been there for a couple years at this point. So she becomes best friends with bliss and Lynn because all of the other butterflies, they're all very interesting. So some of them are kind of like suck ups where they think that the nicer they are to the

gardener means that they have a chance of like surviving after this and then you have some that just like are kind of a little bit emotionally distraught all the time even though it's been like three years since they've gotten there and then you have Bliss Lynn and you have Maya who all of them they just kind of do their own thing like if the gardener does something to them they don't participate this is according to the book but they don't fight it and they don't encourage it they just are trying to get by right so that's kind of like little trio of friends that is formed inside of this butterfly garden. And she was telling her,

Bliss was telling Maya the new girl saying things like, don't forget your old name, but never think about it. Like don't ever identify as your new name. You want to answer to it, you want to respond when he calls you that name and you want to respond when other girls call you by this new name Maya But don't ever think that you are Maya because you're not Maya and if you start believing that you're Maya You're gonna fucking lose your marbles and bad shit happens to you when you lose your marbles around here and so Lynn is like

She bliss like she literally fucking got here. What do you mean bad things happened to you? Check the back hallways and don't do it after you eat. So she's like check the back hallways and then it's like oh. So they go to the back hallways. Can you guess it? No. And she walks through the hallways and she sees rows of glass cases filled with resin. you know, that preserves, it's clear resin. It almost looks like glass and girls. And they all have their butterfly wings pointed outwards. It's all his butterflies.

You keep their body in a glass? Mm-hmm. With like preservatives. Like how they preserve butterflies? Yeah. And with their wings showing. How many are there? A lot, like 20 plus.

Oh my God. And so you realize this, and that's when we go back to the FBI interrogation. So half of the FBI team is currently at the butterfly garden, trying to take note of all the evidence. The other half of the FBI team is at the hospital, trying to ID the girls, trying to see where they're from, because a lot of them weren't even from the evidence. The other half of the FBI team is at the hospital trying to ID the girls trying to see where they're from because a lot of them weren't even from the state. This is happening in Maryland by the way and this girl Maya she was from f**king New York City.

So they're like we need to know where the hell these girls came from. How long they've been missing? Who is their family? Like who do we contact? How old are these girls? Like what is the damage? They don't even know how to start this case. And the FBI are sitting here also questioning Maya, who seems to be some sort of ringleader of this group and they need to realize, does she have any connection with the gardener that happened before the kidnapping? Was she part of the kidnapping? Is this a fake story? Is she like the daughter of the gardener? Is she like the girlfriend of the gardener? Like is she a recruited employee of the gardener? They need to get to the bottom of it. And that's when Agent Victor gets a call.

And this call is gonna fork him up. So apparently the gardener had kept all of the IDs of every single girl that he had ever kidnapped. And he was a very meticulous person. He had a library inside of the butterfly garden where he would keep all of these records and he would keep all of the pictures of their butterfly tattoos that he had designed. He kept everything. And it would almost seem like he would look back on them with joy,

right? And they realized two things are an issue. First of all, my real name is Enara. Now Enara, though, didn't exist until about four and a half years ago. The real Enara, she died when she was two years old in the 70s. So this is a fake ID. This is a fake identity that she had. So who the hell was she before she was a Nara four and a half years ago? So now you had four and a half years ago, and Nara came to be. And then two years ago, Maya came to be,

who the hell is this beets? So they've got that issue. And then another issue is that one of the girls who had been taken, and she had been missing for about four and a half years, her name in the garden was Ravenna. But in real life, it was Patrice Kingsley. And she was actually a senator's daughter who had been kidnapped.

So now that they know that they have a senator's daughter who is involved in this, I mean, it's game over. Like there is no way this is just going to be an FBI type of investigation. They're going to have politics involved. They're going to have so many other strings going for them. And if the senator gets a word that they're the FBI is questioning one of the victims right now, they're going to put two into together and they're going to think that something is wrong with the NARA. And the minute that they feel like something's wrong with the NARA, there's no coming back. What's the setting?

Because all the girls are in the hospital. The FBI is questioning one girl. Why would they question one girl? And they don't want the senator to find out? No, until they can get to the bottom of it because that's not the senator's job. This is the FBI's job. What is senator going to do? Like try to make it be like this bitch, did it? Like this bitch is part of it.

Like she should be in jail with the rest of the little criminals that are in jail right now. So they're just really worried. They just didn't want anyone in the press to know that they're even questioning one of the victims because then it draws the question of like, is this a victim? Is this not a victim? And then they just don't want that to happen. They want to get to the bottom of it. So they're like, we need to speed this up. So the agent Victor is slams down her and our

idea. And it's like, listen, I know that you're not an aura because an aura didn't exist up until four and a half years ago. So explain everything right now. And so she gets into this long confluded, just spiel about her childhood. So her childhood is very interesting, right? We still don't know her name when she was a kid, so we're just gonna call her Maya, so it's not confusing, okay? So Maya, when she was young, she was born into a very well-off family. Her mom was actually a massive socialite, so by the time that she had Maya, she already had like five different husbands and all of them died. All of them were very, very old when they married Maya's mom

and all of them left her a good chunk of money. So she would continue on and she would spend that chunk of money and then she'd be like, I need another chunk of money. So she would then go as a 20 year old, Mary, an 80 year old man and have kids with him and get a good chunk of his money when he dies, and it was just a continuous process. Now, with Maya's dad, though, she did end up marrying Maya's

dad, and he wasn't rich. He was actually very broke, and he was the same age as Maya's mom, and this was more of like a love connection at first, until it went sour, because she just felt like you're the man. You're supposed to be paying for my nice car, you're supposed to be paying for my nice car, you supposed to be paying for my nice clothes and they would constantly fight and they would just fight non stop, non stop, non stop. There was this one time where they pretended to be good parents because their little couples counselor was like, hey, you should spend time with your daughter. Maybe that will give you some more love in this relationship, feel like a family unit. So they decided to take her to a carousel.

You know, the little horses that go around and around. She was really, really young. So they plop around to the carousel. And because the parents were trying to divorce at the time, the dad was standing here. The mom was standing here. And they were just watching her. The other families were watching their kids

like standing together, like waving every time the kid went by and she would go back and forth on the carousel and the parents would just be scowling at each other across the carousel and then she saw her dad talking to another woman and then her mom talking to another dude and eventually after like an hour of the carousel both of her parents went to go grab a coffee with a different person and she was too short to get off the carousel by herself so she was fucking just going round and round for hours and she was crying her eyes out, going round and round on the carousel and that was last time she ever cried

because that's when she felt like my fucking parents don't love me so she gets off the carousel, she goes home with her parents, they divorce soon after that and they drop her off at grandma's house. And they're like, you're gonna live with grandma now. She hates her grandma. Her grandma's house is weird. Her grandma has a thing with a taxidermy. She likes stuffed animals.

To the point where you know how like, sometimes you go to someone's house who likes taxidermy, I've never been to someone's house who likes taxidermy, but maybe you have, it's like a moose, sometimes it's like a f***ing bear. But her grandma was so obsessed with it that she would find roadkill and take it to the taxidermist It'd be like can you stuff this German shepherd who died? Can you stuff my neighbor's cat? Can you stuff my neighbors?

French bulldog who is now dead So like the neighbors dogs would die like the grandma didn't kill the pets But they would die and the grandma would be like, you know what? Let me take it off your hands and they'd be like okay And then she would go get them stuffed and she would just put stuffed dogs and cats all over the house So like imagine how creepy that is so she never liked her grandma And so the first couple of months literally she walks in to say hi grandma and her grandma is busy watching soap opera So she's even turned around she She's just like, hey, your room's upstairs. And so she goes into her room and she's like, wow, this is my freaking life,

right? And she just goes to school from there. She just stays at the house all day. And she kind of already knew something about um, something about pedophiles, okay? There was something about pedos. So when she was living with her parents, the next door neighbor was actually a foster family and she knew that the dad was a petto and she could tell, not because people talked about it, not because the dad ever hit on her up until later, but it was because you could kind of see it in the kids, like the foster kids, like you can see it,

like you can look at them and know that something was wrong. This is according to the book, I don't know, okay, Bits? And she said that one time after the carousel, her parents had actually ditched her so they never picked her up. So she ended up calling the foster dad because she had her neighbor's phone numbers and that was it. And he came to pick her up, dropped her off at home, and he said, now you have to pay me for the ride. And he said, like, you got to like my little lollipop. And so she decided she said, okay, and then when she went down she stuck her finger

into the back of her throat until she puked all over him and then hunked the dudes horn and his wife came out and found out that he was molesting the foster children. And so they got a divorce and they ended up moving away. So she was very familiar with what it looks like and what it feels like when an old dude is not just creepy. Not just a creepy weirdo, right? You know when they're like, you get it, right? And so she said that the grandma's gardener was like that, like the lawnmower, like the gardener. I know it's getting confusing with the serial killer, right? But the gardener was like that. And so he would always come over and he would always smile at her and call her pretty girl. And he would always call her pretty girl. so he would always come over and he would always smile at her and call her pretty girl

And he would always call her pretty girl and he would literally chase her around the lawn sometimes and one time He even chased her back into the house because he didn't know that the grandma was home and She had knocked over one of the stuffed dogs by the entryway and her grandma yelled at her Then keep it down because she couldn't hear her soap opera. So she kind of knew what was going on when she entered the butterfly garden because she understands was poppin and by the way she was 16 when she entered the butterfly garden and I do want to mention something it's really hard to understand age in this book because none of the people who are 16 act 16 not saying that people have different levels of maturity,

but Maya, who is 16, had a rough childhood her entire life, acts like a certified KBG officer. She acts tougher than FBI agents. I mean, it's very confusing. Like, I know it right now, it could be like, well, Stephanie, she's gone through trauma, she had to grow up fast. But like, when you read the book, it's not that type of vibe. It's just like it's just kind of like a vibe of like I think she's 60 and I think she's killed some people in her life before I don't think that she It's just a weird vibe I feel like if you read it you're like no, I know exactly what you mean, right? That was I mean it's also in reviews so I'm not the only one that thinks this way now the FBI agents are saying okay

So what happened to Lynn? Like, let's go back to the butterfly garden. And I think the one thing with the book that is a little bit new once is the fact that the conversation is all over the place. The story is told all over the place because you are talking about FBI agents who are talking to a victim of a young girl. Like, she's young, so they can't immediately be like, what happened there?

Tell me not, right? So they're like, so let's go back to the garden you know tell me about Lynette like how is Lyn and what happened to Lyn and she at the hospital what's Lyn's real name if we could get that you know and she said okay well this is where it gets even creepier so one day Lynette had asked Bliss and Maya to sleep in her room at night and this was kind of normal amongst the butterfly. So life in the butterfly garden was not as scary as you would think. I mean, it was scary, but it's not as scary. It was overall pretty boring. Like, the gardener had cameras everywhere.

There was mics everywhere. And so he would, I guess, watch you, listen to you. She doesn't even know how often you would watch those cameras. Nobody knew. But if he wanted you, he would literally just come and find you and usually take you to your room and then he would leave. And there was about 20 butterflies. He was busy most of the weekday, so he would come on weekends. Sometimes he'd be gone for like a whole week because of business. We don't really know why. So sometimes he wouldn't even visit you once a month. So the rest of the time, you're just trying not to lose your marbles in there. And it was really boring. There wasn't really rules. You had to eat breakfast lunch and dinner and that was about it. So it was kind of like just like a little

hotel. And so Lynette had invited the girls to stay with her that night. And so this is not very abnormal. Sometimes the girls have sleepovers in the garden. So they went over to Lyn's room. And this time she was acting a little bit weird. So Lyn was kind of like the mother of all the girls. But this time she seemed kind of weak. She seemed like crying, teary-eyed and confused. And they laid down in bed and Lynn says, tomorrow is my 21st birthday. And that's when Bliss said, oh my god, you didn't tell us. And she said, because it wouldn't really change anything. But I don't know what to do. I don't know if I should fight. I kind of want to put up a fight.

Like I kind of don't want it to be easy for him, but I also don't want that to make it more painful for me. And that's where we learned that 21 was the age that the gardener felt was the peak of the butterfly. And butterflies have very short lives. And so he felt like if he doesn't preserve the butterfly when they turn 21, then he will lose the peak beauty of the butterfly. So that's why all of those girls were encased in glass because they turned 21. And they saw on her little table in the

room that there was a dress folded up and all of the girls, they all wore the same dress, the same black dress. I mean some of the girls even complained about the black dresses, but that's when they realized that the only time that you wear color is when it's your 21st birthday. It's a gown that specifically picked out to enhance your butterfly wings, like to go with the color of it. And so they all cried together,

and they had wished that the walls had come down, like, you know, to hide the doors, because they didn't want the other girls to remember Lin as being so weak because she had been like the mother of all the butterflies. But everyone heard her cry that night and the next morning the gardener came knocked on the door and escorted her out. And the next day they saw Lynn encased in glass. And the FBI pulled out a bunch of pictures and they were able to point at which one Lynn

was. And she said, but that's not her name. Right before the gardener had taken her away, Lynn had given Maya a hug and said, my name is Cassidy, don't let anyone forget me. And she left. And so that's when they were like, okay, tell the people her name's Cassidy, right? And so they're like looking into who is she, where is she missing from? Like, does she have a family that they need to report back to? And it was just a shit show. And so she was taken away. Now, the other time that the walls come down

and the butterfly garden is not just when the gardeners come, but when a girl is being put up in glass, or when a girl is being turned into a glass, I guess, or just being murdered, right? So that's when the walls come down because the gardener can't really keep track of all the girls during that time. So you're pretty much just stuck in your room and you can't hear anything, but you know what's freaking going on.

And so she was explaining all of that. Now the police are like, okay, how did you even end up in New York? Like you literally cut off at your grandma's house and then somehow you went to New York and then we're assuming that you got kidnapped in New York and so she said okay so this is exactly what happened at 14 years old her grandma freaking died now she didn't want to have to put up with the whole calling 911 the CPS comms they're all arguing about what to do with her

does anyone know where her mom is what about her dad and then they're like hey little girl like is your mom alive you know she didn't want to deal with any of that she didn't want to go to a foster home because she saw what happened in her neighbor's foster home so she decided instead of calling the police that she would reach into the German Shepherd's butthole because that was her grandma's safe because you know it was a taxidermy German Shepherd so you lived the tale and then you put your hand in the butthole and it would be $10,000 of cash like that's where Grandma kept all over cash. So she took Grandma's, that stack of 10 G's and got onto a bus to New York City with it.

She went and she found someone who could do a fake ID and he said, it's gonna cost you some money and she said, that's okay, I have some money and he said, okay, it's gonna be about $1,000 to get you an ID that even police officers in New York City won't even be able to tell the difference. So she said, sounds good. So they meet up at a park and she even took the picture for the ID and now her new name was Enora. And so she said, okay, this is good because now it's she'll told people, you know, she was like 14 that I'm 18 and I can go freaking work. So she's like, thank you, thank you so much. And he says, okay, well, that's gonna be a thousand. 500, if you wanna go into my car and do some stuff.

And she paid him the $1,000 and walked away and started applying to all of the restaurants in the area. That's when the evening star in upscale Italian restaurant was like, hey, you know what, you can be a waitress here. So she starts working there. She was literally staying at women's shelters until, like I said, the waitresses and the hostess

was like, hey, do you wanna stay with us? It's like two, three hundred dollars a month. Literally, it's just a bed in a studio. And so she started staying with them and here's the thing with the evening star. The thing with the evening star, we're getting into how she was kidnapped, is that it's a really upscale Italian restaurant

and in a place like New York City, it was really just a venue spot. It was a necessarily like a hyped place. People weren't coming in off the streets for like a hey, let's just pop in for lunch It was kind of expensive so you would typically go for reservations on special occasions It's also not like a casual dining spot But also it was a venue spot. Most people used it for events So people would book it out like they would literally and the thing with the boss is that he was a good marketer

So he would tell you hey, you've got a party, we can transform our entire staff to fit the theme. If you were having a civil war theme, which by the way, was Maya's least favorite, they would dress up as civil war soldiers, and they would serve you your fucking food, or it'd be like the 1920s, they would all wear pin-up dresses,

and the costumes were all paid for by the people hosting the party because it was part of the venue feed. So they would all show up in these flapper dresses, serve the food and everything was perfectly themed, which people got a cake out of. And so when she was about 16 years old, this was about two and a half years into working at the evening star and living with the other girls, they said, hey, this is is gonna be an event let us know if you want to be a waitress there because the boss always gave you a choice if you don't want to dress up like the civil war or the 1920s he does not force it on you so they said this is the pay for the night and it's for a charity called Madame Butterfly and so she was like okay like that's so much better than fucking civil war so all of the girls are like okay like they give us these like

really weird obnoxious butterfly wings that we put on and they go to the venue, there's a bunch of people there, they start serving the food and they set that halfway in. The waiters and waitresses did not know how to feel. Like they were going to the back and they were cursing but also laughing because the intensity of serving food while everyone had on these giant wings like Victoria's secret angels was the most obnoxious fucking thing that they had ever done in their life. So they're all just like, I don't know if I can wait till the end of the night to start taking shots. So they're all back there and hope one of the girls who works there.

She comes back and she's like, did you see the guy doing the fundraiser? He's fucking hot. He's like a George Clooney. And so they're like, what's wrong with you Hope? And Hope was known for like sleeping with the, you know, people. And so they were like, I hope get out of here. And he's so old. Like he's literally like six years of,

like, why don't you go for the sun, the sun's here. And she's like, no, the sun's weird. What do you mean? There's something about him. He just, he looks at everyone. Like he looks mean? There's something about him. He just he looks at everyone like he looks really creepy Like he looks evil. I mean, it's dumb, but he just and no the dad's hot. Okay, the dad. He's got a dad bud He's old. He's got that son peppercorn for him. He's cute He's a f**kable and so they're all like oh my god, hope and that was just kind of how hope is like that's how she spends the night

That's how she gets through the work day by making kind of like these types of comments, right? So they all thought it was just hope. And so they go out and they keep serving food. And that's when Maya, she serves food to the guy who is hosting the party. And yeah, George Clooney. And he stops her and he says, that's a beautiful tattoo. And she looks down and she actually had a butterfly, a tiny butterfly tattooed on her ankle. And she wasn't the only one

because all of the other girls, they were super drunk one day at the apartment. They were like, let's fucking get tattoos. And they all got tattoos on their ankle, but because of the way that her dress was shaped, like it would show every time she took a step. So she was like, oh yeah. And he asked her, do you like butterflies? And she didn't want to be rude, because it's a fucking butterfly event. What is she gonna say?

Actually, no, I was wasted when I got this. So she said, yeah, I think they're beautiful. And he said, yes, but like most beautiful creatures very short-lived. But you're tattoo's beautiful. And she said, thank you. And she served him his food and walked away. And she took a mental note.

She was like, tell hope old man is creepy. And so she keeps serving the food. And she's like, okay, this is too much. It's near the end. They're like giving a little speech. Everyone's going around clinking their glasses. And so she's like, okay, I gotta go change my tampon. She goes into the back room, the staff room.

And that's when she hears someone open the door. She looks back and it's one of the suns. So she's like, oh, this is a staff only area. Like, do you need something? And he says, my dad wasn't wrong about you. And he starts approaching closer. And she's like, I'm sorry, but you're not a lot of be here. This is a staff only area. And he says, let me see your tattoo. I'm sorry. You're not a lot of be here. This is a staff area. Yeah'm sorry, you're not allowed to be here. This is a staff area. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna try to kick me out

the whole shbiel, what's your name? And so she said, I'm sorry, you're not allowed to be here and that's when thankfully they call him keg, but he's the bus boy, okay? The bus boy is like, oh, sorry, I think you should be here and he's this buff dude, He's all tatted up. There's a rule that none of the other employees are supposed to have tattoos.

But the bus boy, he was allowed to have all of his tattoos. And honestly, Maya thinks that the boss was even a little bit scared of the bus boy. So, Keke, he's always looking out for the girls. He comes in and he's like, you need to find and get out of here, right? And the sun looked pissed off. And she immediately knew like, this is exactly

what Hope was saying. Something about his eyes Like there's something weird like he's genuinely like his face. He's very handsome young charismatic nicely dressed But his eyes are so cool like that was the word just cruel And so he gets kicked out and keg the bus boy ends up walking the girls back to the apartment after the night is over because all of them Are kind of like shaken up. They were like this is a weird event and they all get home They all throw their little butterfly wings into the corner and they lay down and they try to have a good night And they told the boss about how creepy the weird, you know, mad and butterfly person is and the boss said Well, thank God like they went back to Maryland

That's where they're from they were just here for the fundraising event and so she's like okay cool So three weeks pass she's working she she's doing this, yada yada yada, and she went with one of her roommates to go to a public library, and her roommate is also a student in New York City. And so she ran into her friends coincidentally, so Maya was like, it's okay, like hang out with your friends like, I'm gonna go back home. And as she's walking, she feels a bonk on her head. And then she wakes up in the fucking butterfly garden. And the dude was the gardener. Which dude? The son? The old guy.

What about the son? He was involved in the kidnapping. So she was kidnapped three weeks after the Madame Butterfly event. And he was the customer client host of the Madame Butterfly Charity function. Now, back to the garden. This is where things get a little bit weird. The FBI gave her some hot dogs to eat while they're talking to her, and the FBI realized that she's fucking obsessed with this hot dog, which is weird because when you have a lot of victims that wear in captivity, usually they lived off of things like hot dogs.

You know, their captors were not the type to be like, let me take you out to the fancy five-star restaurant restaurant Michelin only so she was looking like she was Downing this hot dog and they said oh like did you not eat hot dogs in your two years there? And she said no Lorraine only cooks us healthy food So they're like who the fork is Lorraine and so she said okay This is almost like an urban legend, okay inside of the garden the, the butterflies talk about this, and it's kind of like this weird unspoken thing. So Lorraine was one of the first couple of girls to be ever be kidnapped by the gardener.

And she thought that she could be real slick with it. She ended up falling in love with the gardener and just like Stockholm's in drums to the max, that's what they said. And she convinced the gardener that when she turned 21 years old to not kill her, but to let her work for him. So he sent her to cooking school, he sent her to get a nursing degree, she never not once told anyone about the garden. She didn't tell any police, she didn't try to run away, not even once.

She would come back to the garden every single night, and once she had graduated, she lived there as their like in-house nurse slash cook. And Lorraine was a really big bitch because she was actually jealous of the butterflies. And it was sick, it was sick and twisted. So the day that she turned 21, he gave her a new dress, took away her black dress, a dress that you can no longer see her wings. She was never called a butterfly anymore and he pretty much just ignored her. Never visited her for other things ever. Just only talked to her about food and stuff that mattered to the garden.

And she would almost, you could see Lorraine walking through the hallways, being jealous of the dead girls in glass. Because she loved the gardener and the gardener loves his butterflies and she's not a butterfly Now she's in her 50s and she's just super fun salty So they're like the gardener has been kidnapping girls for 35 years Yeah, and you know Maya said the gardener only kills you for three reasons unless you're Lorraine The first is that you turn 21 years old and butterflies are short-lived so he wants to Case you in your prime beauty. Number two is if you get sick injured or pregnant, so Lorraine does administer shots,

but I mean contraceptive, there's always like a case that you might get pregnant, and so if you ever get pregnant, he just kills you. And then the third is if you lose your mind, like if you can't do it anymore, you have mental breakdowns or you try to do a coup, we're like, let's knock down the gardener and run out right, he's gonna kill you. And so they said okay, well tell us about the sun because you mentioned that the sun, what was his name Avery? We have an Avery on file and she's like yeah Avery.

You told us that he was at the restaurant and he kidnapped you. Did he ever come to the garden? That's when she said yeah Avery likes to, Avery has his own room in the garden. And he's a little bit different from the gardener. He likes to kill girls for fun sometimes. So a lot of the times he will accidentally kill a girl or he'll do it on purpose. It doesn't really matter. And then he'll be banned from the garden for a little while. But then the gardener always lets Avery back in for some reason. And so he also assaults all the girls and

Her first time being assaulted by him. She was dragged into his room and there was already a dead butterfly there so he had killed her and Then he assaulted her and she had she was bruised up and everything and that's when the gardener comes in and this is why it gets really weird This is where I have so many pickles with a book because then you start seeing like Avery is disgusting and what you would normally think of a kidnapper and then like the gardener saves her from his own son when he's the one that put her in the position anyway. And so the gardener would come in and scoop her up from Avery's room and would continue to apologize as he helps like wash her and put band-aids on her bruises. And he would even let her sleep in his room,

which she didn't even know that he had a room at the time inside of the garden. And so he would let her sleep in that room, and he would just whisper, I'm sorry, while like brushing her hair all the time. It was just a lot. And that's when she tells the FBI that the gardener doesn't want, like he doesn't necessarily want to kill the girls

He just doesn't want the beauty to die in a butterfly So he feels like he genuinely gets sad when he kills the girls is what she says Which again, I have so many pickles to pick about that one but continuing on so the FBI is like okay So what happens to someone like Jizal which was the dead butterfly that she was assaulted in front of. They're like, what happens? Like, does she go into glass? Because she's all bruised up and stuff? And she said, no, if you die in a way where you are now un-presentable as a butterfly, you don't get in glass.

And she said, I mean, we'll find out later what happens, but they just don't come out in glass. So the FBI is like, okay, so we have all the girls in glass. Are there other places we need to be looking for dead girls? How many could there be? So then that'd be I ask her. Okay, tell us more about your day-to-day inside the garden And she said it was a freaking boring. So the more that you're obedient to the gardener, the more that he gives you things and these are Personal items. So there's a library inside of the garden and on the door of the library There's a piece of paper that you can write with a pencil of books that you want to request to be interred into the garden, and they will just magically appear in the garden library.

And you can read those books. And then sometimes, if you really like a book, the gardener will give it to you. And if he gives you a book, then you get to keep it in your room. Otherwise it has to go back in the library because it's a shared book with all the girls. And as long as you follow all the rules and the gardener likes you, he starts giving you things that you like. So for example, Bliss was obsessed with clay. Like she loved pottery. So there was even like this big, you know, what do you call those in the kitchen that Lorraine would supervise her with

because she had the like the big pottery oven that she was a lot of use and she was given clay. And Lynn was obsessed with origami. So they gave her lots of origami. Like the most premium origami papers. And I know, in 50 shades of what the fork is this, Beats. And Maya was obsessed with reading books so he would just give her more and more classical books like Edgar Allen Poe again. What the fork is this when I was 16 I was reading Twilight Beats. So then he would give gift people these things and

Everything was fun up until maybe like six months ago a girl by the name of a Vita died and they said okay Like this is kind of like a segue into the question of like are there other girls like jazal who didn't die because they turned 21 and on and Glass and so with the Vita it was a little bit different so they were so fucking bored that they decided to play a hide and Seek one day inside of the giant garden and a girl by the name of Danielle she would be it so she went to the corner and she started counting to a hundred now they were so bored to the fact that even the gardener would come out and watch them play hide-and-seek because he felt like that was them showing him that they liked it here that they genuinely enjoyed their new home. And so he would watch, and the girls would be so bored that they would even continue playing, even though they

knew that this was like, sick and nasty. And so Danielle would go closest to the gardener, the person who's it would go near the gardener to count. And Maya doesn't know if the gardener knows this, but they did that because nobody wants to fucking hide around the gardener. So literally the person that's it goes and counts there because nobody's trying to hide around there. And she doesn't know if the gardener knows that her if that just passed him. And so they would all go hide. Now Avita, who was around 17 at the time, but she had the mental maturity of a six-year-old, so she was, um, she had a mental illness. And she was there. Now a lot of people worried about her when she first entered the garden

because they felt like the gardener was gonna kill her, but he ended up liking her innocence, I guess. But he wouldn't really visit her. She would just be kind of kept around. Like, she was just there being held captive. I mean, she wasn't as bad as the other girls because they were getting visited by the gardener, but with a veto it was different

because she genuinely was happy there compared to the other girls because it seemed like she didn't really get the full scope of what's going on. She didn't know that she was gonna die soon. She didn't know that we're being held captive here. Our families are waiting outside and we're gonna die here. She kind of felt like this was like a fun place once in a while to be and anytime she would get sad she would cry about it and then she would be over it Whereas the rest of the girls like they just had this like they knew what was going on and so the garden I really liked her and everybody really loved Avita so Danielle she starts counting so she counts to a hundred and she said

I'm coming but then she heard Avita was still like trying to hide so she would just keep counting There's something that all the girls did so they would count until there was it was quiet. So they knew that Aveda hit. And Aveda this time she hates heights, but she said, I want to climb the trees with Maya because Maya was obsessed with climbing the trees. And so she said, I'm going to climb the trees. So she gets up onto the top of the tree with Maya. And Maya is like, it's okay, right? Like just hold the tree tight. And she says, I don't like it anymore. I want to get down. And so Maya is like okay okay let me help you down first right and she starts coming down when all of a sudden everyone screams and they see Aveda falling from the tree and at first you hear massive screaming and then you hear like a crack and then no more screaming and you see her fall face first into the pond. So all the

girls start freaking out they They start running to her. And it seemed like she had, because it's a small space and all the trees are kind of like right next to each other. It seemed like somehow she got really unlucky and she had snapped her neck while she was falling down. And now she had a snap neck and she went into the water to get a Vita and she was kind of carrying her and the gardener came and she was obviously dead and all of the girls are about to start crying when they see that the gardener is literally sobbing his eyes out and it was just like the sick twisted moment of like, why are you crying? Yeah. and like they just watched him cry.

and so the FBI comes in because by the way this is like the whole FBI interrogation, right? So another officer comes in and they are giving updates about the case because it's a fresh case and then the officers will then question my own, be like, look at the new evidence we got. And so one of them comes in and says, the son Avery is dead. 13 of the girls are expected to survive

and also Patrice, the senator's daughter, she refuses to see the senator. The senator has arrived at the hospital, refuses to see her own mother unless she talks to Maya first. And so the FBI are like, what? And so they're like, okay, first of all, like the son is dead and they look at her because they're trying to get her reaction like this Maya girl. They don't know what's going on with her. They don't know if she's somehow involved in this. They don't know if she's just as much as a victim as the other girls. They don't know why she's the ringleader of all of this to the point where the girls don't even want to talk to their family. That seems a little bit weird. And so they

ask her, like, they're trying to get her facial emotions of if she's sad that her alleged tormenter is now dead. And they said that the word to describe her was that she looked haunted. And so they're looking at her and she just looked kind of haunted And she said what about and they said what about the younger son does the younger son know about the garden Maya So we find out that Desmond is the younger son and there's another son to this and the way that we find out about this is the way that she finds out So we're back in the garden. So it's like back and forth into the garden. It's like memories. So we're back into the garden. And Maya has this thing for climb and find trees. Okay, she's a little tarzan, be it's. And so she loved climbing the trees in a free time because A, she was so freaking bored and B, sometimes she would climb up there and then she'd be like,

what would happen if I just jumped because she was literally miserable. And C, she would sometimes put her hand up against the glass of the greenhouse and think like, you know, what if this glass wasn't here? She would just imagine things. When she looked outside from the top of that tree, something that she couldn't see when she was on the ground level was this like massive mansion in the distance. Now this mansion, you could tell it was massive because of how far it was, but like the size of it from how far it was. And then there was like bunch of other gardens and it's just really just all gardens

everywhere. Just look like trees and flowers and rose bushes everywhere. And she would see the gardener every day at around 6 to 7 pm, walk around the garden neighboring the house that was not this little greenhouse with a frail old woman. And she could kind of tell by the way that the woman was moving, that the woman was kind of in charge. Like the gardener would stop every time that the woman wanted to stop, and she kind of concluded that this was his wife, and she was sick. It seemed like she was really sick. So she would walk really slow. He would kind of dote on her, make sure she's like, okay, and then sometimes Avery would join them on walks, and he would look miserable. And then sometimes Avery would join them on walks and he would look miserable and then

sometimes a different boy would join them and he was really young and she knew that the parents loved him a little bit more than Avery because the mom would stop and she would put his hair behind his ear and she would take care of the mom as she walks whereas Avery didn't do that and she always wondered I wonder if all of them know about the fucking garden. And that's when one day, she was up there watching them, and she's squinting, and she sees that the gardener

was stopped looking straight at the garden. Uh, he saw her. But he didn't tell her, he saw her, up until a few weeks later. We go back to the garden, and she says that the gardener likes to bring in a couple girls a year. So not a lot but like sometimes three girls a year, three new girls and he would never bring in multiple

girls at once. He would usually only bring in one girl. He would wait for her to fully adjust, have her full set of wings, have a name, get to know the other girls before he brought in another girl because the way that the gardener sees it is literally he's a gardener so he doesn't want the butterflies to get stressed and die. So like he needs to acclimate like the temperature, the mood, the environment of his garden so that butterflies don't die. Like it's so sick and twisted and so every time a new girl came in all the other butterflies would get stressed because they think about their capture, they think about their kidnapping,

they think about their family because another girl is like, I'm gonna, I miss my mom, you know, and they start thinking about their mom and so he would only bring in a couple girls a year and Now that Lynn has died, my every some reason felt it upon her to take care of the other girls because all the other girls Just didn't like they said don't want to talk to the new girl and new girl technically no one's in charge of making her feel comfortable like she just gets drugged and then she gets tattooed and then just set into the garden. So Maya is like, fuck this. Like that's so messed up. And so she was talking to the first new girl that came after Lynn died and her name was Johanna. Well her new name in the garden was Johanna. And she was really well acclimated and the way that Maya had introduced

her to the garden was like, Hey, um, you fucking survivor, you die, like that's it. And that's not how Lynn had introduced her to the garden. Like she was a lot nicer about it, right? And Johanna, she seemed well adjusted. So Maya was like, you know what? What I'm doing is good. Like girls need to know straight up.

What's in it for them? Like you fucking eat your food, you have to live through this. And then, you know, when you turn 21, you're dead anyway. So you you have to live through this and then you know when you turn 21 you're dead anyway So you want to die now or do you want to die when you're 21? It's up to you really and so she would kind of do it like that And Johanna she was acclimating she got our full set of wings her name was Johanna She was hanging out with other butterflies until one day they saw her they stand in the pond and she had drowned herself And so Maya was like oh my god Like she was feeling so much guilt,

she was like, I wonder if that was my fault. And so the next girl that came in, she started taking really good care of her. She was like, it's gonna be okay. Like, I'm here with you, like trying to be more like Lynn. And she noticed that during the tattoo process, this girl was not healing, like everyone else did. She was like blistering parts of the tattoo were getting nasty infections. It just the wings like what happens when the butterfly wings are flawed. It's not even about is she gonna die from an infection because most likely she won't. But what does the gardener do when the wings are flawed? And so she starts taking care of the girl rubbing, oh wait, man, on her trying to be like, please wings don't get infected, you know? And that's when the gardener comes in and he

sits down and he's like rubbing ointment on the girl with her and the girl's knocked out, she's drugged up by the way. And they start getting into a conversation. And the gardener says, how long have you been watching my family? Since I got my wings, I usually went up there every day and I saw that there was a house and I saw there were other gardens and you would walk with someone and he said, well what do you think? I think your wife is sick, I think she's old, I think you love her maybe? I don't think she knows about the garden and I think she's scared of Avery. She doesn't really like him maybe and I think that your other son has no idea about the garden.

And he looks tense. And so she says, I'm not going to tell anyone by the way. I don't think it really bothers us if you have a family or not. I don't really think it matters to us. And he looked a little bit relieved. And he says that his wife's name is Eleanor, and she has a heart condition.

And she stays home. They have their nightly walks in the garden. And she stays home, they have their nightly walks in the garden, she loves gardens. And this is kind of like his safe place. She has no idea about the butterflies. Desmond, his younger son, has no idea about the butterflies. He is definitely different from Avery. He's really good at piano, he gets good grades,

mom loves him, you know. Kind of gives the whole shpeel about his family. And that's when he's like, come on, let's go on a walk so she's like okay cool We're going to my room and I'm gonna get us all dead right, but that's not where they go They actually end up going to a cave that she had recently started going with all of the girls So right under the man made waterfall is like this tiny little cave and there is a security camera in there And there's also mics in there

But the girls feel like that the mics are hard to pick up your words if you whisper in each other's ears because the sound of the water. So they go in there and they just talk to each other in there and they don't even talk about like having a riot or like a coup or like killing the gardener. They literally just talk about like random shit and it just makes them feel like a semblance of regularness and normalcy. And so he takes her into the cave and he asks her, are you planning a coup or something in here with the other girls? And she said, no, I'm not.

Like, I literally just bring the other girls in here and we just talk in here, because it's a little bit private in here. And so, again, lots of nasty stuff. He starts talking about how you're not like the other girls. Nostra. And then he asks her, is there anything you want? Because like she never asks for anything. Like sometimes she'll write on the little book wall, but she never really asks for anything. Like Bliss asked for her pottery set, she asked for a oven, like she asked for all of these things, all the other girls they asked for, like a TV, a DVD player, a CD player, all of these things,

and she never asked for anything other than sometimes books. And so he asked, is there anything you want for me to thank you for you know keeping my secret? And she said, can you turn the security camera off in here? Just so we can have a little bit of privacy sometimes. And so he said okay. And they, yeah anyways, continue hang on. You do that?

Yeah. Couple continuing on. You do that? Yeah. Couple nights pass. Now Maya is up on the top of the cave and she is just laying there looking up at the stars and Bliss comes to her and Bliss is falling apart. Literally all of the girls at this point were falling apart. Like they just were not having it. The two newest girls, they're dead. Like how does that, like that's just really depressing.

It had been months. Lynn is gone. Lynn was like their mother and Maya is trying to be a mom, but she never even had a mom, so she didn't know how to be a mom. And Bliss is like, how do you do it? Like how are you kind of happy or like kind of okay here? And Maya was like, well were you happy

before you came to the garden? And Bliss is like, yeah, it's really happy. Well that's why, because I literally didn't, I wasn't really happy. And she was like, tell me about something then. She's like, we're not allowed to talk about our family. We're not allowed to talk about anything personal. And she's like, we'll tell me about something,

not personal then. And Maya divulged in a story about how one time the neighbor were growing pot plants up on the roof of their apartment building. And the cops were finding out about it. So we decided to burn all of the pot plants to get rid of the evidence, but it had gone down into the central AC vent. And literally the whole building, all of the

kids, all of the grandparents, all of the girls, they were like high for a two week straight, like it was the most insane shit that she had ever experienced, and bliss is like, what? Because most of the girls were kidnapped when they were 16, and they had a life span about five years, and that 21 they would be killed. Most of the girls were kidnapped when they were 16 and they had a life span about 5 years and that 21 they would be killed. So think about it, when you're 16 you are usually living with your parents, most of the girls were kidnapped when they were at the mall with their friends and mine did not live like your conventional teenage life.

And so Bliss is like what the heck? And then all of a sudden they see a flashlight shine which is weird because Avery and the Gardener, they know their every and the gardener they know their way around the garden even at night like if they're leaving to go back to the house they know how to get out without using a flashlight so she's like shhh and they see Desmond. Now Bliss has no idea who this dude is and she's like that's the fucking young son what the fort right and so she freaks out and she's like okay stay here so he starts kind of like looking around and she runs into Danielle's room because that's where the gardener was at the time and he gets a

little bit upset and he's like why are you interrupting me blah blah blah and then she's like I think your young son is here there's an intruder and so he goes out and he starts talking to Desmond and he's like Desmond what do you do you know you're not allowed in my garden and he's like come come let's go into my office. So he pulls him into his office and she's just standing there in the middle of the hallway, like what the fork is going on, right? All of the walls come down, because it seems like he always keeps something

in his pocket to like, you know, control the walls. So all of the girls are locked in their room, except for Maya and Bliss, who's at the top of the cave, like what the fork's going on. And so she's like, she's standing there. When all of a sudden the gardener comes back out and it's like I want you to meet my son. So he brings her in and he says Maya please sit so she sits down and he says listen I didn't want to tell your mom this because you know how your mom gets she loves to help people we already have all these charities

that she runs and she kills herself over them. And these girls, they pick up some girls from the streets that have no life, they're homeless, and I help try to teach them. I have a library here that they use, and you know, they stay and live with us for a while, me and Avery, it's kind of like a little side project to rehabilitate these girls, most of their parents or, you know, crackheads, like he's just saying some fucking wild shit. When Maya, goddamn knows that most of their parents are you know crackheads like he's just saying some fucking wild When Maya goddamn knows that most of these people came from loving families I mean, there's literally a senator's daughter off in this bitch and Desmond is like is that true? And she's like yes, I I was about to resort to hook in and then I came here like she's just going along with it

She's scared and so he's like yeah, I mean I yeah mom would be really stressed out if she had to take care of all the girls And she's like are you a f***ing idiot? Like she's thinking in her head you look like you're in college. Could you be that f***ing dumb that you believe what your dad is selling you right now? And FBI agents are like do you really think that he bought it? And that's when the FBI is like, okay, probably he did because what they realize with people with, you know, family members who are massive criminals is that you try really hard to believe what you want to believe. And that's why a lot of the Times family members don't turn in family members because they have

a little bit of like a, oh, that's a weird coincidence, but there's no way that they believe that their family member is a serial killer. So because the dad was already helping with so many charities he just wanted to believe it and thus he did. So Desmond believes that he goes home for the night and he says you know Avery and he has a code and one day Desmond can get a code into the garden by himself. But for the time being he would have to come in while he was under supervision of the gardener to meet the girls and to help with the charitable work that they were doing in their own backyard.

And so he leaves for the night and the gardener wants my to stay in his room for the night. So you can see where that goes. And so then Desmond would keep coming and he would keep visiting with the gardener and he would come in with his little books and he would be like, this is really cool. And the girls are like, you're really fucking down. They call the police. But they can't say anything because the gardener is always watching them. And the gardener even gave them new dresses that don't look like such a cult and they would cover all of the butterflies. All of the halls were always down so that none of the butterflies in glass were showing for weeks because Desmond could come by anytime and all of them were just acting like yes I am from the streets and they were told if you

don't tell them that then you're gonna die. And so then Desmond would be like will tell me about your past like what happened and they'd be like it is too painful to talk about but your father has saved us all. Like, real cultured. And so she's just like, how is he that f**king dumb? And so one day she's hanging out by herself in the little garden and he approaches her and he says, can I ask you something?

You seem really blunt. Like all the other girls, they don't really talk to me, but you seem like you tell it like it is. She's like okay. How much of what my dad is telling me is complete shit? And she says I don't think you should be asking me that. I think you should be asking your dad. And he's like did he really rescue you like he said? Or what happened? And she says I don't think you should be asking me. I think you should be asking your dad. But I mean at this point she tells him that and by the way that he's acting she knows that he knows and she knows that he's not

gonna call the cops. Like the one quote in the book that's always repeated is you are your father's son, right? Like, he's not gonna call the cops on his dad and the way that he interacts with his dad, he's like literally begging for acceptance from his dad. Like, for his dad to be proud of him. Like, you're not gonna call the cops on your dad. And he knew that, she knew that, so what was the point in acting like it'd be any different?

So she was just like, okay, whatever. And so then she starts telling more stories of the garden to the FBI. And she said that there was this one situation where a twins came in. So twins were kidnapped. They came into the butterfly garden at the same time, which was really rare. And the gardener had tattooed both of them with the same exact wings, which again was weird, except for the problem that one of the twins was like deathly allergic to f***ing everything. Like she would never go out into the garden. She was allergic to like the first 30 different soaps that the gardener had brought into their

room. Like she was allergic to everything. Her food allergy list was out of this world. Like when other girls were crying they'd be like, hey, hey, can you tell them what you're allergic to because it would calm girls down because of how long and boring and mundane the list of food allergies was. The other twin, she was kind of outgoing, like she loved climbing trees too, like with Maya, and she loved being in the garden, but they shared the same room so they would constantly get into fights because she would bring in like mud and dust, and then the other twin would have massive allergies, and then one day, the gardener likes to sometimes have like this really creepy dinner type setting,

where he would tell the rain and the rest of the girls tonight, we're eating dinner all together. And so all of the girls would take extra care of their appearance because they don't want to die. And he would come and sit with them and eat dinner with all of them at once. So one day, during that dinner time, the allergic to wind didn't want to come to the dinner. And everyone forced her to so they dragged her there she wasn't ready she didn't get ready the rest of the day like the rest of the girls

and she showed up and she was being really salty she was like I'm allergic to this this this this and this and this and everyone was really nervous and sure enough the next day both of the twins were in a glass case together. Oh my god. So then, Desmond gets his own code and he starts visiting the fucking butterfly place like everybody else and all of the girls rooms are now being shown, but the butterflies and glasses are still being hidden because you just, I guess the gardener didn't want to tell Desmond about that yet. So everyone's like, yes, we have been saved. And Desmond is just living in his fake fucking world where he genuinely believes

that he's like, yes, we are good people. And so Avery would come, but because Desmond is there, Avery would have a lot of tension because he couldn't do what he wanted to do with the girls, because I mean, Desmond is like this proper dude and he wants to like fight for Desmond's, but honestly, what a weird family, right? And Desmond was slowly falling for Maya. Like he genuinely liked Maya. Like he wanted to play the violin for her. Like he would bring his violin and like play that shit for her. And he thought that they were just like going on dates in the garden together. And he would like hold her hand. He would like touch her hair. He would just it genuinely felt like flirting. It was just so strange. Now one day she goes into the kitchen to grab

an orange and he's hiding in the kitchen And he's under like the kitchen counter talking to her when the dad comes in gardener comes in and gardener It does not know that his son is there and thinks it's just my and the kitchen So they start having a conversation and she asks him like why do you preserve us in glass any? I knew, preserve us in glass. Any, she didn't know, purpose? Any tells her that when he was young, that his dad was a very, very great businessman, but overall, he had this very intriguing hobby

where he collected butterflies. So we'd go out into the fields and they would look for butterflies and they would catch butterflies, but a lot of the times you can't find perfect butterflies like that, you would have to buy them off of people, like butterfly dealers. And so he would buy them, and while they were still alive,

because that's how you get the best wings, he would pin them onto these velvet suede, you know, backgrounds, and he would encase them in glass, and he would hang them up. Now, there was a small electrical fire inside of our house, and all of his butterflies were ruined.

His lifetime of collecting butterflies were ruined. His lifetime of collecting butterflies were ruined because of an electrical fire and soon after that he died and a lot of people in my family believe that he went to go be with his butterflies you know. He loved those butterflies. So at his funeral my mom was giving like this speech and I just couldn't do it. I missed my dad so much so I went out and there was this massive like cemetery but it was a beautiful grave and there was this young little girl and for some reason she was dressed up like she had this butterfly wing you know like the cheap ones you can buy

and she was just running around the grave and so I followed her and that was his first victim that he kidnapped and at first he kept her in the basement But he felt like it was inappropriate to keep a butterfly chained up in the basement So he went on to build this atrium so that he could let his butterfly live happily So he tells her all of this and then he insults her and the sun hears everything so that he leaves and the sun is crying And so she's like anyways You deal with your own shit on your own time. I don't have time or the emotional capacity to be like,

it's okay, it's okay, come here. Let me give you some emotional support because your dad kidnapped us. He, he, ha, ha, ha. And so she's like, you got it, dude. And she leaves and he doesn't come back for the next couple of weeks. Now he ends up coming back

and he is acting like none of this exists. He is still like trying to trick himself, mental cartwheel hitches him into believing, you know what? Y'all are still rescued little hos from the streets, you know? And so he continues on. He doesn't even ask questions about like what do you mean when you ask my dad about the glass thing. What do you mean in case you win glass? He is just like whatever how are you doing? I had my exams in college, it's been rough. And so she's just like, you forking idiots. And she said that she hated him just as much as she hated the gardener and Avery,

just in a different way. So we're gonna get into a little bit of the girls that were there at the time. So we've got, you know, the FBI starts giving them some names and she starts kind of telling them about that. And one of the girls, she was, he's eating it. He is not making a treat right now. He dead ass is eating a fucking straight ass rice crispy right now in front of my face. Beat. So some of the girls, like you have Pia who is curious about everything, like that's

her thing, like she likes to read it. Psychopedias, she likes to learn how everything works. You've got another girl who's obsessed with like cross stitching and she was even allowed privileges to wear tiny little scissors around her neck as a necklace because he didn't want any of the other girls to have it But she needed it to cut the thread so she would have these tiny little scissors and if she wasn't wearing it They would get confiscated from whoever had them or if she left them in her room So she just always worried around her neck and then you had you know bliss who liked clay, you had some girls who loved dancing so they would constantly listen to their MP-theor players, you had some girls who were painters so they had canvases and you know sketchbooks and everyone had their

thing except for a girl by the name of let's call her Susie. Now Susie was weird. She didn't really have something like she wasn't really into the other girls, she didn't really try to hang out with anyone. She wasn't necessarily mean, but she was just strange. Like she would walk around and she would point out all the ways that you could kill yourself inside of this garden. But when someone would be like, okay, then you do it.

And then she'd be like, no way. So she was just kind of weirdly fascinated with death. And everything about death she liked and it was almost creepy because the only other person who liked the glass girls other than the gardener and Avery was Sirot she liked going up and well her name is Sirot in the book. We're gonna call her Sirot. So Sirot she would go up and just stare at the girls for hours on end and talk about how resin and for male hide or whatever the you know thing is used

is preserve the body like she was she was a little weird and so everyone kind of stayed away from her because that's just weird like you do know you're gonna be there one day soon right but she just maybe didn't care or maybe didn't understand so she was just obsessed with death. Now Simone one of the girls she ends up falling pregnant. That was a really hard time because they knew what was gonna happen to her. So they had seen her get taken away and probably encased in glass. Now the walls don't have gone up, so they still didn't really see any of the girls in glass.

At this point, so since Desmond got there, the walls of the dead girls have been covered. And finally, another thing happens. They start dating. Maya and Desmond got there, the walls of the dead girls had been covered. And finally, another thing happens. They start dating. Maya and Desmond start full on dating. They even do it. They do it. And once they do it, the gardener stops doing it with Maya. So they do it.

And it was like this really strange relationship. Maya even said that it was weird because it was different, but it was the same as the gardener. Like it was different in the sense that he thought that this was a willing thing but it really wasn't. So it was just like this sick twisted what the fork did. Like I'm only doing this because I don't want to die but then you think it's because I really like you and it's just so confusing but she did also think maybe something good could come from this because Desmond had already asked his dad to cut the cameras in Maya's room because he didn't want you knowmond had already asked his dad to cut the cameras in Maya's room because he didn't want, you know,

he felt weird that his dad could possibly see, you know, them doing it, and he would constantly come over and he was really making the place a much more fun place. He would bring his stereo, play massive, like loud music in the garden, and all the girls would hang out. He was kind of under Maya's thumb.

Now, Avery didn't like this because Avery always hated Maya Because he felt like Maya was like the fucking queen of the little bitch garden, right? And anytime he hurt Maya he would get in trouble by his dad And now his younger brother gets to fucking have Maya like that's not cool like women are objects and I should be able to have her Yeah, he's one of those so he was like that's not cool And so he gets so upset by this, that he brutally assaults one of the other girls by the name of Zara. She had multiple broken bones. I believe her hip was fractured from this. And the nurse, nurse Lorraine, I mean, she went to

nursing school, but she's not a fucking doctor doctor. There's only so much she could do, even with the amount of money that the gardener had. And so they kind of knew that things were not looking good for Zara. Her hip got infected. She had broken bones that weren't healing and they were getting infected. And so Desmond had brought in this wheelbarrow. And the girls knew that this was the last day

but they had asked Desmond to bring in a wheelbarrow. They put her in the wheelbarrow and they kind of like wheelbarrowed her around. And they were having a good time with her. And all of the girls gathered in her room that day and she asked them in her memory to like not be sad but to have like a big play of some sorts from her big favorite book like just to recreate the play or like read the book in her memory don't be sad like don't let the girls get depressed right and so the gardener takes her away and he says, Desmond, would you join me this time?

And this is the first time that Desmond finds out about what happens to the girls and what happens when they turn 21. But now it's an issue because he's dating one of the girls that is gonna turn 21 one day. And so he just storms out of the room that the gardener likes to kill his girls in. And he goes straight

up to her and he's like, did you know about this? And she's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like you're dumb. And so he starts getting so upset and he leaves the garden. And he doesn't come back again for weeks and he's like, I literally hate that dude. And so finally, you know, the environment was just nasty in the garden because all the girls were getting so sad. Like this was just like the ultimate sadness.

And they decided, you know what, let's finally just have that freaking play because Zara said don't get sad. And the gardener had heard about this and so he decided to buy all these costumes for the girls to really like enact it out and he felt like if they were putting on a show for him, it must mean that they're happy to be here, right?

And he had invited Desmond and Avery to be the audience with him and Desmond ends up showing up and he's just watching and they're doing their play when all of a sudden Avery screams and he says, Dad, you'll never guess, I brought another one in today. And he drops the girl on the ground and she's unconscious She's beaten she's bruised she's bloody and the girls look at her

She's fine 12 okay like this is the moment where everyone's like oh my god So she's 12 and everyone's shocked because all the other girls were kidnapped at 16 12 was like really young Because all the other girls were kidnapped at 16. 12 was like really young. So they're like, what? And the dad gets mad and the girls take away the girl into one of the rooms and they're like taking care of her. She wakes up and she's in so much pain and they tell her it's going to be okay. Like, we're not going to let anyone touch you. We're not going to let anyone hurt you. Like, what's your name? What's your name? And so that's when, you know, they heard lots of fighting outside.

All the girls are taking care of the 12-year- old. She said her name is like Lily or something. And they promised her nothing's gonna happen to her. The gardener comes in and she's like, you're not giving her wings, you're not touching her. Like I would literally, we're all gonna like die and kill ourselves if you even try. And so he's like, okay, like you got it. And Desmond comes in and he's like, can I talk to you Maya?

And so she goes and talks to him and he says, I think I'm gonna call the cops. And so she's like, okay I talk to you, Maya? And so she goes and talks to him. And he says, I think I'm going to call the cops. And so she's like, OK, well, her name is Lily. She's recently, this is where she lives. She's recently making her nap. Are you going to tell them everything? And he just kind of walked away. And that's when we're back in the interrogation room.

And they end up escorting her to the hospital to talk to all the girls. So they talked to all the girls for about an hour. And the senator comes up to Inara or Maya and she's like really upset like with the fork, like why are you with the FBI? Like why won't my daughter talk to me? And who are you?

Are you Maya? Why did she want to talk to a Maya before she wants to talk to her mom? And she tells the senator sometimes, like you're just not ready to be in the real world. Like sometimes like we're still Maya, like we're still in the garden, like we don't know what the fuck's going on right now, okay? So they're just like give her some time

because she's not ready to be her daughter yet because she doesn't even know what's going on right now. So she goes into the room, all of the girls insisted on staying in the same room. So it was like this tiny little hospital room and they're all sitting there waiting for her and she gets in there and she starts talking to all of them and she comes out, she talks to all the parents and lets them know, like listen, it's not because we don't love you, it's because they're just not ready. You just need to give them some space right now. And they escort her into a room where they see the gardener hooks up to a bunch of machines and they said that his name is Jeffrey McIntosh and it seems like he will make it to stand

trial. So you need to tell us the full story because he needs to be put behind bars. And so she's like, okay, they said, what happened at the garden? She said that he ran away, all the doors came down and it seemed like the police had gone by. And then the doors came up

and we all walked outside to the garden and we saw Avery, he had been punished by his dad who had hit him with a cane multiple times, which is a weird, weird dynamic, and then they came out and they saw like a pack of chewing gum that had been discarded on the ground and the cops had come by, but I guess the gardener had talked to them out of it that it was nothing and Yes, the gardener had talked to them out of it, that it was nothing, and they had left. And that's when the gardener was yelling at Desmond for calling the police, and he hit Desmond 10 times with a K. And Avery got really upset at first Avery was really happy watching his dad hit his younger brother, but then when he said, just 10, I got hit 10 times for hitting one of the butterflies.

And you're gonna hit him 10 times for almost ending all of us And the dad said stay out of it Avery it's not of your business right now and Avery pulled out a gun and He shot Desmond and he shot the gardener in the arm and he demanded all the butterflies come to him because now he is the owner of the butterfly garden and it all the butterflies come to him because now he is the owner of the butterfly garden. And he grabbed Maya by the hair and he said, you're no longer gonna be some queen bitch of the garden or some shit like that, right? And the gardener was crawling towards Desmond because he was bleeding, like his chest was bleeding. And he said, Survat, Survat, can you go into the room and get some towels we need to put pressure on his wound? And Avery was so busy like, ha ha I'm the f***ing!

And so Survot was like, the room? With room! He said the one with the formula hide, like he doesn't want to say the room that I kill you guys. And she said, oh that room! And so he had clicked something on his little pad that he carries in his, you know, pocket, that the ones that bring the walls down, and it had unlocked that room with all of the Farmela hide, which is like a preservative.

And she said it was like slow motion. Something about the way that she was so excited to go into that room, and it was survived the one who was obsessed with ways to die and they all looked at each other and they heard the biggest explosion and just fire sparks flying out of that room. So she had set from Ella Hyde on fire to kill everyone. And the gardener was like, I have a room literally backed up fertilizer

for all of the plants. And if that fertilizer is highly flammable. So he's like, we need to get out of here. And like the door was too far. Avery was like near the door, whaling has gone around. He grabbed one of the girls and snapped her neck. Like he was like literally on a killing spree.

And so they're crawling around. And for some reason, as they're literally drenched in all these little fire ashes, they start hearing police sirens. And she said, why did they come back? And the FBI said, well, the main person, the police officer who had stopped by, got back into the car and called his officer, his supervisor, and said, you know,

it was a cold call. It seemed to like it was a prank call, maybe some kid mad at his dad about something, right? Her rich family weird, really weird. And they said, well, who did they say was missing again? And they gave the names, Cassidy Lawrence, which was Lynn, and the new girl, Lily. And it was weird because Lily was kidnapped in Maryland, and Cassidy Lawrence is from Colorado, and she's been missing for like six years. So why would they be connected? Like, why would anyone even know both of their names? If you were calling

because you're mad at your dad and said, your dad kidnapped people? Like, why would anyone even know both of their names? If you were calling because you're mad at your dad and said your dad kidnapped people, like, why would you do that first of all? But second of all, you'd probably look at the local news and pick like two girls off the list. How would this dude even know about a Cassidy Lawrence who has been filed as a missing person since six years ago? And so they were like, you need to go back and question them.

And they came back and that's when they realized the whole thing is like burning down. So're like call the fire department and that's how they got out but only like half the girl survived the explosion and they take her into the next room where Desmond is hooked up to machines and it seems like he will make it out too and they're kind of looking at her because maybe this is like a happy moment for her I mean maybe they did like each other I mean I, I imagine how complex that is. And she said that she wishes that he would have died, not because she hates him, but because he could have died a hero, but now he's going to live and be known as a coward who called too late. Because it doesn't really

matter in people's eyes if he called right immediately, you know It's different from calling after six months of knowing what's going on So they leave and as they're in the waiting room of the hospital about to head back to the interrogation room at the FBI Center She hears in Nara from the other side of the hospital and she turns around and it's Sophia the The retired hooker, according to her words, that lived in the apartment with her. It had been two and a half years. And she ran over and she said, I can't believe this. And they sat down, they're crying,

and she said, I have all of your stuff. You didn't pack anything up. All the other girls thought that you just up and left because nobody filed a missing person's report for Anara because of the way that everything was set up. Like those girls that were living in that unit, they were all kind of running from something. Like none of them were just like, hey my parents left me and they all missed me. They know I'm living here.

Like all of them were either running from abusive ex-boyfriends or something like that. And so they just assumed that she had to run because something happened and she said, but I didn't. I knew you were going to come back. So I kept all of your stuff and my daughters miss you. I have custody of my daughters now and she was like and then I read on the news that something happened and I just I felt like you would be here. I felt like you would be here and the cops are like what do you mean you felt like you were gonna be here. So they're hugging and she's crying. And Nana's crying for the first time

since that carousel right and she's just bawling her eyes out. And she says, is this the garden? And Anara's like, yes, it is. And so the FBI sit down and they said, we need to know who you are. Who? Sophia. So Sophia tells them everything. And this is why Anara was very suspicious.

Maya was being really suspicious about the way that she was telling the story. So the night that they came home from Madden Butterfly, Madden Butterfly, the charity event, Sophia was in the apartment and she saw all the girls take off their butterfly wings and toss it into the corner. And Sophia had a complete mental breakdown and she got drunk like she relapsed that night. And so they went out onto the fire escape while all the other girls were partying in the room. And Sophia said that when she was really young, she was like 16 and she was fighting with her parents that she ran away and she got kidnapped by some dude.

And he tattooed these wings on her and so he showed her her back. And she said it was called the garden. And he would call us his butterflies. And there was some other girls, there was a girl named Lorraine there. It was just so weird. And she had gotten pregnant from that garden,

from the gardener. And she somehow was able to escape because his first son, his name's like Avery or something, he had just gotten access to the garden and it was real sick that they were doing this together but he had this access code that you have to type in to unlock the door to leave and nobody is allowed near the area but she would climb the tree and he would be so slow at typing in his code because he was new to the garden and she memorized it and when she found out that

she was pregnant she knew that she was going to die or and she memorized it. And when she found out that she was pregnant, she knew that she was gonna die or that she would at least lose her baby. So she ran away and she escaped. And then she just didn't know what to do. She couldn't go to the police because, I mean, by that point, she was so traumatized. She was just hooked on drugs.

That was the only way to get by every day. No one would believe her. The police wouldn't believe her. She doesn't have a name. She doesn't know anything. It was just a garden. Like, could you imagine? I was kidnapped in a garden and he wanted me to be his little fucking butterfly and he fed me good food. And yeah, that's the story. And so then she found out that maybe that this person, I mean, imagine that garden, how much

that cost. This must be a very rich and powerful person. And so she couldn't go to the police anymore when she got older because she was scared that they would convince her that she made this whole story up and that somehow he would get custody of his daughter. And she couldn't risk that. And so then she ended up having another daughter by somebody else and she became a prostitute, had a rough life, and she was trying to get clean for her kids. And she just relapsed the day that they came home with all those butterfly wings. And so Nara heard about this and the police were like, did you get kidnapped on purpose? And she said no, she didn't.

She didn't believe that the person who hosted the butterfly event was the same person. She believed that this was a weird coincidence because it's a real charity, you know, Madam Butterfly. It's not just like I want a butterfly event. Maya. Maya knew this story. Maya found out that night when she got home from the butterfly event.

And she didn't think that this was connected. She believed that that was some other creepy stalker, serial killer out there. She didn't think that it had anything to do with the Madam Butterfly people because that was a genuine charity. So she was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry that happened to you, Sophia.

And they continued on with their life. And three weeks later, she was kidnapped and ended up in the Butterfly Garden. She was sure you knew. And she already knew. And she knew that this is where Sophia was. And so that's why she was a little bit different from the other girls because she was more calm and collected. And that's why she kept climbing the trees to see if she could get people to

put the code in, to read the code. But she could never get it and then Desmond walked in because Avery was getting slick with it and I'm sure his dad beat him up after you know one of the butterflies escaped and so then Desmond came and she was like okay well this could be my only chance and then that's how they escaped and that was why she was being so suspicious because she didn't know how Sophia would feel if all of this got connected back to Sophia She doesn't want Sophia to be in trouble. Yeah, like not being in trouble, but not feel the guilt of like knowing all these other girls This happened. I never reported it. Yeah, so she told a slightly different story. Yeah, but how she got out was because of all the drama a slightly different story. Yeah. But how she got out was because of all the drama, like fire.

Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't necessarily Sophia that helped her out, but she just, she was really crazy about not telling stuff about her past because nobody, she didn't want anything to be tied to Sophia, because she was worried about Sophia and her kids. I see. And then Sophia told her, what family now?

And they cried. Is that end of it? That is the end. What? No justice? I think there's another book I'm not gonna read it. But there's more to this story. I think there's like a half ending to the justice part and how the girls acclimate to the rest of the world once they get out.

This is the dessert we made. I'm gonna take a bite. This is the dessert we made. I'm gonna take a bite. This is like some really like, almost like a cold slash, hinky slash religious slash. Mm-hmm. It's just some really,

cause like the fact that the dude is crying, he has like, he doesn't want to do this, but he made it for the greater good. Was it creepy? It was kind of sick, huh? There's book, it has amazing reviews. It has over four stars, like 45,000 reviews on good reads,

which is a lot of reviews for a book. So I imagined it to be more serial killerly. Like I thought it was gonna be more true crime with the twist of like the butterfly garden, but it ended up feeling more like a fan fiction, like some weird fan fiction, you know? I don't really like to read extensively, even fictionally, about assault or assault situations, but I think in this case they should have included it because if they don't include it, but they include all the parts of the

gardener being such a human person, it almost makes you be okay with the gardener, which I think is very dangerous and like very bad. But then again, it's fiction, and I might be looking too much into it because I'm into true crime, and so all of these are like, oh God! Oh God, this is not good! Like how are you gonna do it like this?

Because I mean, that's like the one thing with true crime is like, you don't glamourize a wealthy serial killer. Yeah, exactly. And this one was just- It was glamourize a wealthy serial killer. Yeah, exactly. And this one was just... It was glamourizing it. Yeah, like it's the beauty of the butterfly garden was there, and I get it, it's fiction, it's supposed to transport you into this butterfly garden, but dead as when they're describing

this man made waterfall, I'm like, I'd like to visit, it sounds like Disneyland. And then I'm like, just kidding, I'll die if I visit. And then they would just describe the gardener as being this handsome man Who was so poised and just like so mysterious and there was just I don't know it was like such a weird I feel maybe all the reviews are from people who aren't into true crime So it feels like just a very easy read that's kind of like weird dark kind

of like weird and kinky and shit but then as someone who reads a lot of true crime you're just kind of like this is this problematic how do you not canceled I feel canceled just reading this book yeah it was a really weird book but I will say the writing is good so like it's one of those books where like if you don't think too into it the writing is good. So like it's one of those books where like if you don't think too into it, the writing is enough that you don't throw it on the ground being like, oh, like it's not like the woman in the window where it just goes on and on and on about how much she drinks wine and doesn't remember things because she's drunk or like the kind worth killing

that's like and then she took a left turn at satellite boulevard, you know? Like it's not like that like you will actually finish the book, but then afterwards you just feel kind of messy Like you're like I'm on the messy side of mystery thrillers Like this is the type of side that the other authors are like oh It's just a little weird and then the fact that most of the girls are underage But then you like end up blocking it out in your head because they act like they're like fucking 32 year old FBI agents themselves. So it's really confusing. It's just also confusing.

I don't know how to feel about this book. I felt the need though to do a big hit of mystery on it because I mean, it is a little bit different. And I think the plot is there. The idea of it is there. The mystery. The mystery. The butterfly garden.

Yeah, I just was not accepting that like when I read the back I was expecting genuinely like a bunch of dead corpses like using their bones to create like a better like something like that it does it does give me a little bit of those sci-fi movie yeah it's like you're in this like futuristic mansion that looks like a garden And then these women just walking around Living a fake life. So give me that like sci-fi Yeah, and then I was looking into reviews too because I was like I can't be the only one feeling this way A lot of people were upset by this book and some people I mean they had the same questions as I like

How rich is this dude that he just feeds healthy food to like 25 girls every day of every month Like I can't even afford to feed myself healthy food for like a month like it But then like how does he have this time? How's nobody looking into his life? And then also you're just talking about like an atrium like a dome of a garden like his wife really never went in really like none of the press ever came He never did like an architectural digest or yeah So many questions. And Maya, she is incredibly emotionless.

She's like, so then I climbed up the tree, and I saw that he had a wife. And I was like, that's a wife. I'm just like, cool. And then the FBI agents lacked so much character. There was this one chapter about the FBI agents, and I was like, I'm going to die right now, because it was like like this one chapter about the FBI agents and I was like I'm gonna die right now because it was like this one FBI agent he joined this unit because his younger sister went missing and this one agent Victor

he joined because his daughters call him a hero. I was like, wow, this is really one dimensional FBI agent. We don't even have one bad cop in this, like not even one, I don't believe you. They were all just like, we'd do it for our kids. And I was like, fuck you. No, it just adds to the unrealistic aspect of the writing. Like, the FBI agents are literally written by someone who I believe has not even

watched one full season of Law and Order SVU. Like it's that one dimensional. There is no depth to the FBI characters at all. And half the story is told in the perspective of the FBI characters. So I'm like, how are you gonna give them such a weak aspect? There was no carrot I couldn't tell one FBI agent from the other and honestly they were like this is gonna be hard getting all this Information out of this girl who wants to be hidden and then they were like tell me about the garden

She was like so anyways, and then this shit happened this shit happened and I was like said wasn't so hard Was it and then every chapter that like it's gonna be even harder to get this information out of Maya But I'm gonna do it because I do it for my kids Okay, I'm upset I'm upset. I didn't want to show this anger in the beginning because I didn't want to ruin it for y'all But I'm getting upset. I'm emotional. I'm angry You know how much it costs to get like a small tattoo? Does he write these off? Are these tax exempt?

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