Rotten Mango - No Doctor Has Ever Survived Treating This Mental Asylum Patient (BAM Halloween Special)

Episode Date: November 1, 2020

An undiagnosable patient at a mental asylum has driven every single one of his doctors into madness and often times... to their mysterious death.  Is there something sinisterly wrong with him or is it a contagious madness?  Welcome to the Halloween special of Baking A Mystery! This is a fictional story and isn't true. As always, the video version is up on the YouTube channel "MissMangoButt"  If you are exclusively into true crime there will always be a new episode every Wednesday!  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I need to stay hydrated after what I went through, because listen, I thought before I start this baking mystery, I might eat four jalapeno cream cheese filled tockies. No, for tocky Halloween, no. For a tocky cream cheese filled Halloween Yos. And I ate them all and then I went to the bathroom and something scarier took place in there than what I'm about to tell you guys about right now. Happy Halloween. If you guys are listening to this on Spooktober day,

spooky Halloween day, I've even dressed up as myooktober day, Spooky Halloween day. I've even dressed up as my favorite costume. It's not Halloween today. It was, um, it's gonna be in a couple of days. Welcome to baking a mystery Spooktober edition. So today's episode is gonna be about a book that I recently read called The Patient. Now this is written by an author by the name of Jasper.

Do what? I think, um think something like that it literally says like D-E and then space something It's a fence and I'm okay and I should have just like my name Stephanie desu. Oh, I sound class. You are already Stephanie An idiot a very interesting one because it was actually written through a series of Reddit posts I believe on the no-sleep thread before it was taken down from Reddit and then later published compiled all up into one and I think there was like revisions and there was editing done and then it was released as a horror fiction book and I

I mean it's a tiny little red book. I thought I would get through it and like maybe max two hours something like that but I ended up spending a good amount of time on it because I wanted to really just suck in and digest every little page that I could think of. This is about a mental institution, a state-run mental institution in Connecticut, and a lot of the names in the book are actually kind of taken away. So I kind of made up like the rest of my own names. Like they literally put like Dr. G and then dash. Because the whole Reddit thing is supposed to be about the fact that this is a real story.

So to make you feel like you're reading something that actually happened almost like a blog post type type of way of writing, right? So some of these names are gonna be a little bit inaccurate, but the rest of it I'm trying my best and also the ending. I'm going to tell you about the ending at the end, but I'm going to alter some shit there because sometimes you read a book and the ending you're like, no, I'm just going to actually stop the book three chapters early because I don't know what you wrote as an ending, but that's not how it's ending in my brain, okay? That's not the life I choose to live.

So that's what's going to be happening in this episode. And it's about a mental institution where there's a patient, and weird things are happening to that patient. Any doctor, any nursing staff, any orderly, anyone that comes across that patient for lengthy periods of time somehow ends up killing themselves. So it almost seems like this patient is in this mental institution for I mean there's no diagnosis on this patient even. But what happens is people say that his madness is almost contagious and people that are around him for a while start to go mad. So this person is a doctor, he's a psychiatrist, his name is Dr. Parker and he starts his entries March 15th of 2008 and he says listen this happened in the early 2000s and it's been a lot of years since then so I feel like I'm finally

comfortable enough to tell you about some of the horrors that I witnessed inside of this hospital. I feel like to divulge in some of the specific details would be bad business to ethically corrupt and you know I've got a fiance his fiancee's name is Jocelyn and she was at the time in the early 2000s. She was studying to get a doctorate's degree so she's a very intelligent person. She was getting a pH deal, whatever. So they're engaged and he was going through like graduating from like Ivy League medical schools. Like this is cream of the crop top. Did I just say cream of the crop tops? This is the titty top of the crop tops.

Like he had the best education and he graduated and he was like, I can't wait to go to Connecticut so that I could be with my boo thing, my little engaged fiance, and I'm gonna start applying for jobs there, right? So he gets to Connecticut and to everybody's surprise, he decided to not apply to everybody's surprise, he decided to not apply for like those fancy prestigious hospitals. You know what I'm talking about? Like the

Cedar sign eyes of the world, the fucking Kaiser Permanente's bits. He decided not to apply for those positions, but for a state run hospital, which a lot of people thought were weird because usually state run mental institutions are incredibly underfunded, incredibly under-well-kept overbooks. I mean, it's overflowing with patience. They don't have enough staff. It's really not a place that an Ivy League doctor usually goes to like, there's not a place that you're gonna make a lot of money. You're working for the government essentially. So you're not gonna get paid a lot and so all of his colleagues and they were trying to talk them out of it. They were like, don't do it. Like, I've got the hook up at Cida Sinai. I can get you in. Easy breezy, you know,

cover girl. This is easy with connections. American dream. Woo. And he was like, no, I mean, I don't mind. Like, it's only for a little bit. And he kind of held this weird, this weird attraction to those state run hospitals. So when he was 10 years old, his mom was actually admitted into a really state run hospital. And so for some reason, he feels like at least one time in his life that he wants to work for a place like that to kind of see if he can change things around.

Like, I mean, I'm gonna be honest. The whole book, he even knows this at the end because he's writing this after everything happened. He knows that during that time in his life, he truly believed that he could change the world with his Ivy League degree. He was like, you know what? I'm an Ivy League graduate, so obviously I can go into a state-run hospital, point out all the things wrong and how to fix them, easy breezy, and I've just saved lives and changed the world. But it doesn't exactly work like that. So he was like, you know what, I'm a girl with a state run hospital

and I'm a change sims. So when he was 10 years old, I gotta give you some background on his mummy. So when he was 10 years old, his mom was actually found by his dad in the kitchen in the middle of the night and she had taken a steak knife and she was like carving her arm with it.

And when her dad, his dad was so alarmed and was like, sweetie, like what are you doing? She turned around and she said that the big insect demon had put the screams of like the damned, like the people in hell into her ear and the only way that those insects, like those little maggots that are now living in her ear would leave is through her blood. And so she had to cut herself open to get those maggots out. And so she had to cut herself open to get those maggots out. And so she was taken away into a hospital.

And for the longest time, when this happened, like his dad would tell him, like, oh, your mom's like on a girl's trip. Like, your mom's with her grandma. Like, your mom's a little bit busy. And so finally, he was like, dad, I'm putting my foot down. I'm a grown man, I'm 10. And I need to see my mom.

And so his dad was like, okay, I don't think I can hide it from you anymore. So he grabs his little hand, puts him in the car, in the back seat, because you ain't a grown man, you're 10. And so he's in the back seat. They drive to the state-run hospital and they get out and he said that it was just a good show. Like it looked nasty. It smelled nasty, looked nasty. None of the of the like the staff look like they were gonna give you depression instead of curing your depression like That's what he said the vibe was like they all looked annoyed at anyone that would breathe near them And there were just like patients rummaging through the hallways like staring at everyone all very creepily and he's 10 So obviously he's not woke. He's not like oh mental health awareness

He's like what's happening, right? And so he walks in and they get led into a room now his dad decided to wait outside and he walks into the room and Immediately he is hit with this pungent smell of urine and blood and he's like what the fork and he looks over at his mom Who's hunched over in the corner and she had made this like makeshift Shive out of like, you know, when you're in prison, you like, make some stuff that looks like a knife, right? And she was bleeding and she turned around

and she was able to register that this was her son. And so she said, Parker, Parker, baby, why don't you help mommy? I can't get these damn maggots out. And she started to look at him and he looked terrified. He looked so scared and maybe she also registered that, oh my god, my son is scared. And so she decided to crawl over to him while singing him like Lullaby and tried to give him a hug. Yeah, like she

was just kind of like crawling. Like it's okay, like she was on the ground and I think she was bleeding a lot. So it must have been painful to get back up. So she was like crawling to him like it's okay baby and like singing him a lullaby. Now in her head obviously she thought that she was comforting her son. In his head this was like the biggest nightmare ever. So he ran out of the ear and he was crying to his dad and he said that was the day that he decided to become a psychiatrist because that's just not his mom. Like that's not the mom that he knew for 10 years. That's just not who she is. She just needs help and then she'll be the true mom.

You know, like mental illness is not his mom. And so he was like, I'm gonna become a psychiatrist and help people like my mom. Well, his mom ended up passing away. So he didn't really get to help her. And so he finally gets a job at what he just calls a Connecticut State Hospital. He doesn't want to get the name because obviously he doesn't want to get sued because he's, he's about

to divulge in some crazy just patient. Like you don't get to talk about stuff like that as a doctor. So he said it's just CSH. That's what we're gonna call it. And his first day after the interview, he said it kind of seemed doomed almost to enrich his back to obviously in Connecticut. Apparently Connecticut weather is at. And it's always raining, it's always like, I mean, I feel like the whole East Coast is always kind of like weather some. Like the weather is weird over there.

I grew up in the East Coast. I could say that without getting canceled, Georgia weather is wild. I remember one time we went to a school play and then there was like a tornado. So we all dispersed into the rooms and like we were in a tornado lockdown at night Like 7 p.m. Because we came to watch the school play like who this is weird

No, you don't think that's weird That's a weird memory I have I think we were there for like hours And then you were just chilling with the teachers and everyone was like if I wanted to be locked in school I would have come during the school day Why can't you watch a play? It was like, if I wanted to be locked in school, I would come during the school day. I came to watch a play. It was like Romeo and Juliet. And now, nobody's making out. Well, actually, a lot of people made out. Okay, continuing on.

So the weather was as, like as he was driving to his first day on the job, it was thunderstorming, it was raining, he almost got run off the side of the road, like it was bad. And once he got to the parking lot, I mean mean this hospital was a ginormous hospital which is really bad considering that it was incredibly underfunded like his salary itself just told you this is an underfunded hospital everything about it just looked like it was gonna cause you to go crazy instead of help you not be crazy it just looked really bad so as he's walking into the building, I mean, this is the type of place where people go when they are mentally and physically and financially,

like at the end of the road. Like you don't necessarily, like you don't check yourself in here if you have disposable income. Like you would probably check yourself into like a Beverly Hills rehab or something like that. I can't believe there's a rehab there. I'm getting rambly anyways This is not the type of place that you would go if you had the luxury to go to a private institution What? You're gonna start calling your grandma soup I'm like back in my day back in my day Anyways, so this is just could it be a lot of patients in there,

but he still was determined to make the best of it. So he walks in on his first day, all of the nurses are just busy. They're over booked. There's too many patients, and he's in the elevator, and he kind of starts reminiscing about a lot of patients and about delusions and stuff like that. One of his most recent patients

that wasn't in this hospital, but his last run where he did his residency, he had this strong belief because they lived near campus, a very nice private college campus, and this old man truly believed that this campus, there was this secret club, you know, which makes sense, like this boarding school and secret club of all these elite students, And they would rent out this local restaurant and in the basement of that local

restaurant, they were cooking up a giant. Like they were creating a Frankenstein and this Frankenstein was going to be a cannibal. It was a human eating giant. And when people asked, like, how do you know that for sure? He said, you know, my girlfriend got eaten by this giant. ass like how do you know that for sure he said you know my girlfriend got eaten by this giant but the truth is according to his records that he had a psychotic break and killed his girlfriend and so now his mind was like making up this story to protect himself and then you had another person who truly believed that a cartoon character that he watched at night was obsessed with him was in love with him and they were gonna be together. But then as the show progressed, they never got to be together.

Like, he didn't just appear on screen and they didn't get married. And so he found out the artist of that cartoon and started stalking that person because he felt like they needed to know and not make sure that they were separated. It was like the artist who was like, no, you guys can't be together.

And so we started stalking that person. And the one thing that he's learned from all of this is that you never tell the reality to someone who has delusions. First of all, it's never gonna work. And second of all, they're usually gonna get incredibly angry. That's like their immediate response is just anger. So you just don't do that.

And then just like his last hospital, every hospital has one patient that nobody can help. They just don't know how to explain it. There's always that one patient that even the doctors have given up on. They just kind of medicate that person. They just don't really know how to diagnose him. They don't know what's wrong with them, how they got that wrong, how to fix them. They just don't know. Like there's always that one case in every hospital where everyone just kind of throws their hands up. Like we don't know what there's always that one case in every hospital where everyone just kind of throws their hands up like we don't know what to do and in this hospital it was a patient by the name of Joe so what he knows about Joe so

far from his research of asking the nurses and like the receptionist and stuff that he is this patient that's undiagnosable in this hospital he actually was admitted to this hospital when he was six years old, and he's been here for over 20 years, two decades. None of the doctors during 20 plus years could diagnose him. They call him someone where his just symptoms keep changing. The minute that you think maybe he has a sociopathic tendency, his symptom change, and he becomes someone else, and they don't know what to do about it. The minute that they think that they have a diagnosis, it's something else. And all of the doctors who get close to diagnosing him somehow end up killing themselves before

they diagnose him. And so obviously, a young bright Ivy League doctor in a hospital of just a regular school doctor, He's like, I got this one. I got this one. Your tuition was great. My tuition was like a hundred K year. Okay, a hundred K year. I can fix him. I can spend two minutes with him showing my degree fixed. I'm gonna fix him. And so he came in and he was like, you know what? That seems like a fun case to have. So he already kind of came in with the mindset that he was gonna help this forker. And he's like, I just need to find some people

to get him on my patient list. And he'd ask the boss or whatever, but that first day, that first day, he realized it was not gonna be easy. Like anybody that you asked about Joe, they all just were like, you don't wanna know. Like even the staff, that he didn't have a doctor right now. So all of the patients were assigned a doctor,

except for Joe. So the only people who interacted with Joe were the orderlies who came in and cleaned his room, changed his sheets, and maybe take out some food and bring him some food. And then the nurse, one nurse who would administer his medicine, that was it. He had no doctor. He never had any therapy sessions.

He never came to group therapy. He was placed at the end of the hall so he wouldn't interact with any of the other patients because he was deemed to be that dangerous. So then the minute that he starts asking around, everyone's like, dude, it's your first day, like calm your tits, he's literally dangerous. Every doctor he's had has almost killed themselves. You don't know what you're talking about. And so he's like, okay, I'm just gonna wait a little bit. So a couple of weeks go by and he's kind of like cruisin' into his role.

And honestly, he was killing it. Like he was, people, the nurse. The nurses were calling him a child prodigy. They were like, who brought you to this hospital? Because none of the other doctors, like they don't even care, like you care, you care. And so, Nessie, she's the head nurse. She's the head, and charge. She's been working thereb-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b I know this TikTok can't be a lie Yeah, they have my doctors like completely dismissed nurses because they're like you're not a doctor

I'm gonna change my first name to doctor and then we'd like you're not a doctor doctor read my chart I'm a doctor I know. And so Nessie, she was the headbits in charge and she was the one nurse that was in charge with administering Joe's medicine, right? And so he kind of like weaseled his way into the lunchroom. Nessie was there and she has this tendency like the more Angry or she is that day the tighter her hair is tied and today it was like loosely put down So she's like, so that's a good day. Today's a good day to ask her. So we roll up to Nessie and he's like, Nessie, what you eating for lunch? And she's like, ah, my child prodigy, sit down, sit down and she's like eating a salad, right? And he was like, so I kind of want to do something a little

bit suicidal. And she's like, don't tell me you hated here. No. I kind of want to see if I could talk to Joe and she immediately looks at him with so much anger. Like he has never seen her that angry and she's almost always angry and so he's like what the fork right and she's leaning over the table and she's like what did you just say? I think I want to maybe do some talk therapy with Joe. You don't know what you're talking about. No, I know he doesn't have a doctor right now so it's not like I'm stepping on anyone's territory. I just want to, like, just one session.

If I can't do anything, I can't do anything. You don't know anything. You are God damn fool. Listen, let me tell you something. I go in there every single day to give him medicine. How long does it take me? Maybe, maybe 30 minutes. And every time I walk out of that room, I want to admit myself as a

patient in here. Just so tomorrow, I don't have to give him his medicine. So you don't know what you're talking about. He's like, what? And she said, don't you ever think about it again? And don't you ever joke about something like that ever again? Don't ever joke about Joe. It's serious. And she was mad. So he was like, okay, yeah, you're right. And he made up two things in his mind that day.

First of all, he wasn't going to talk to staff about Joe. Second of all, he was going to fix Joe. He's going to cure Joe. Because I mean, honestly, this is almost personal now. Like if all of the staff was feeling that much discomfort, then someone had to help Joe, why work in misery, when you could just cure a patient, duh. And so he's like, all right, I got it.

So he decides to look up Joe's record. No, he didn't even know his last name because people don't even put Joe's last name on the charts because they don't want you looking into Joe's past. So it's just written as Joe. So he looks at his medical chart and it's literally paper thin, which is weird because he's been there for over two decades and he realizes that there's only one year of the

last data and there's no doctors notes, there's no diagnosis, there's no therapy. So it's just a list of medicine that he's on and that's it. And so he's like, okay, I need to go into the record room. So he goes down into the record room and and he signs in, and he starts looking at any joe that he can find. And finally, he finds a file, which honestly wasn't as thick that as he thought it would be, disappointed, you know?

And it was a real thin one. And so he takes the file out, and he starts reading it in the record room because he doesn't want to be caught stealing something like this. And so he's reading it, and it looks also like nobody has opened it in decades. Now this is what we can gather from the records.

So Joe was six years old, 20 something years ago when he was admitted into this hospital. And that was back then when this hospital was not so terribly underfunded. They actually, like 20 something years ago, state-run hospitals had some of the cream of the top doctors. Like they had good doctors. They had Ivy League doctors. Not saying you have to be good to be an Ivy League doctor, right? Or you get advice for

something. I guess you do. Or sometimes you doubt. Sometimes it's dead is money, or whatever. Um, what was I saying? So, I mean, back in the day, they just kind of forward a lot of more like, um, on the record better doctors okay that's just there's that one person who's like my mom works at a statement hospital and she's the best doctor and she cares about all her patients so go to hell I hate you that's not what I mean it's a fictional story I don't know how state-run hospitals are okay continue okay anyways and so he was admitted in when he was state-run hospitals are okay? Continue your work. Okay, anyways. Yeah mama. Grandmother. And so he was admitted in when he was six years old

for night terrors. He was so scared and he said, listen, I don't know what to do. Every time I go to bed, there's this giant monster on my wall who keeps trying to kill me. And every time my parents come in, it just like goes away.

And he just didn't know what to do. He said that it was kind of like this weird worm slash fly. So like the head was like a worm but it had a million eyes like a fly and then the body was like a spider and it was just a mix of all of these insects which again is really common when you're six years old and you show signs of, I forget the word, but it's real phobia, which is intense fear of bugs. Like when you're young, you look at a spider, like you faint. It's not even just like, ah, spider mom, right? Like you're like about to pass out. And they thought that he had a very small condition of that, like he had that small phobia. It was an intense, but it was there.

And so he had maybe concocted this crazy imaginary creature to come kill him in the middle of the night. And of course, just like all the other kids imaginary monsters and friends they disappear when the parents come and check on the wall. And so the doctor tells him, listen, it's in your imagination and all of that, yada, yada, yada. And that kid was ended up giving sedatives and released that night because I mean,

he's like, you know what, you're right doc, I just didn't hear about it like that. And then a couple days later, he was readmitted and this time his arms were bloodied up. So the parents said that they found him the next morning and he had all of these cuts on his arms and they brought him in immediately because they don't know what happened and the kid said that that bug that monster um he went like this in the middle of the night because he didn't want to look at the monster. He was like this monster's too scary and so he covered his eyes and his monster wanted to look into his eyes and so he used his little spider claws to take the hands away from his face

and used his antennas to keep his eyes open like this. And so the doctor's notes write down his story, but they also write down possible self-harm, possible sociopathic tendencies, write all of these things that they're noticing in this kid's behavior. And so the next morning he stayed in the hospital. He was never released by the way, Joe. This is like 20 plus years now, right? But that was the second time he went to the hospital and never left. So the next morning he wakes up from the sedatives

inside the hospital and it's like a completely new kid. He was not communicating with words. He was only clicking and hissing like, and like hissing at people, like nurses who would come by, anyone who would come by, he would violently try to punch nurses, he would try to kick nurses, a nurse had a surgery done on her shin, and he tried as hard as he could to kick her in the shin multiple times, where then she sat him down and was like, you can't be a bad boy, okay? And she walked away, and he would just click in his,

he wouldn't talk to anyone, he wouldn't talk to the therapist, it was just weird. So then the next day, the therapist was able to get him into his, you know, office and was talking to the kid and he noted down, by the way, his name is Dr. Thomas. And Dr. Thomas noted that he had insane anti-social personality disorder aka sociopath. He was a sociopath, but he said it was far too sophisticated for someone his age and

his development. So, the way that it works means that when you're a sociopath, when a doctor says that you're a sophisticated sociopath, it doesn't just mean like, oh, you're like an extra sociopath. Like you're like Uber, Uber, sociopathic. It just usually means there's almost no way that your brain could have developed this much sociopathic tendencies within six years. Like, it just doesn't make sense. It just doesn't mean that you're like, oh my god, the most sociopathic, right?

And so they said it was a little bit weird because this is typically unnormal, even in the most extreme cases of sociopathic kids. And that kid was sitting there just staring at the doctor as he's taking his notes, and he had said, I don't really like a drunk like you. And the doctor kind of looked confused and said, why did you say that to me? And he looked at him and said, why do you think? And the doctor let him out of his office, and he wrote down in the notes that during his 20 years of sobriety, of being sober, he's never wanted to take a shot of anything. As badly as he did within the 30 minutes that he was with that kid,

he doesn't know how that kid knew that he was an alcoholic in the past. It's been 20 years that he's been sober. He doesn't know. And he says, I don't know what to do. I just know I cannot be this kid's doctor because I will go back to drinking. And so he passed on his assignment on this kid to a different doctor.

And then we have about four years of notes that are missing. And all that was written in the doctor's notes during the next four years from him being six to 10 was do not give him roommates, keep him isolated, make sure only experience staff are handling his room. And that was about it. And then when he turned 10 years old, there was a new note that was written into the system,

which is the fact that this is when the hospital was starting to get all of their budget cuts. So they were like, we need to give him a roommate. There's no way that he can just take up a whole room by himself now. Like, this is really bad. And so they had placed him into the room of an older gentleman who was very, very violent. He had a tendency to be sadistic, which means he likes to enjoy people in pain. And as we know already, Joe likes to push people's buttons.

And we don't know who made that decision the director of the hospital was raging at all of the doctors and the doctors notes saying like this is unacceptable because Joe was actually admitted into a general unit of the hospital for a broken arm two broken like bruised ribs a concussion and a fractured skull so he tenured Joe had said something that was so incredibly bad that it just pissed off This dude and he beat the shit out of him so they were like next time don't do that So the hospital took note and when Joe was released from the general hospital He was taken back in and he was placed with a six year old by the name of Nathan now Nathan was in there

So he's ten Joe's ten Nathan six Nathan was in there for so he's 10, Joe's 10, Nathan 6. Nathan was in there for having extreme PTSD from sexual abuse from his own father. And they thought that this would be a good match because both of them kind of kept to themselves and both of them just, I don't know, right, they just put them together. And everything was going well for a couple months. Until around 1.30am, they heard screaming and the orderlies ran into the room and 10-year-old Joe was assaulting Nathan. In the same way that his dad had,

which just furthered his PTSD obviously. So then they were like, we can all let this happen, how did this happen? We need to have orderlies who are constantly checking up on Joe, right? And so his next roommate happened to be a teenage meth addict who had severe paranoia, paranoid schizophrenia. So he was just paranoid of everything. He had hallucinations. And the reason that they chose him as a roommate is because he was many, many years older than Joe. And he

was physically much more built than Joe. So like if Joe tried to do anything, he could just knock him out, right? And so they were like, okay This is a good match But in order to make it even more safe they decided to put these leather straps on the bed and every night when the orderlies weren't constantly watching on the tube they would be strapped when they sleep and so the next morning the note said We can never have anything like this happen again Because somehow the teenage like this happen again. Because somehow the teenage methodic, he had chewed out of his leather restraints and the hospital has no idea how, but he was able to push out the bars from the hospital window

and he threw himself out the window. So they don't know what happened that night, but that kid had killed himself and they suspected had something to do with Joe I mean, this is a little weird and so they were like okay So now we're gonna send in Frank the orderly so Frank is an orderly and he was gonna go in with a tape recorder And Joe was gonna be restrained in the leather straps and he's not a big kid He's very very thin and so he's gonna be restrained all night and Frank would sleep there at night to see like if anything was happening And he would have a tape recorder and Frank was this buffess orderly dude right so they were like okay sounds good and he was like I got it that kid don't scare me and so he goes into the room

and he runs out and he said that Joe was talking to him all night like whispering these weird things to him all night and he started to have this panic attack he didn't know what to do. He was scared and it was bad. It was bad doctors and they play the audio tape and they don't hear any whispering. They just hear, they kind of hear like a panic attack that was assumed to be Frank and they were like, okay, this is weird but obviously Frank it's gotten in your head. You know, like you're like, oh my god, like he just kind of, you know, push someone to jump out the window.

So he must be this crazy kid and then you're like, it'll just be sleeping the night in a mental institution. It's obviously in your head, Frank, so they were like, okay, why don't you, you know, go home for the night and we'll talk about it again. And within a couple of days, Frank was also hospitalized in a mental institution. He was very upset that nobody believed that the whispers were happening, but he was on the other side of the room. And if Joe was whispering anything that even Frank could hear, the tape recorder would have picked it up.

Like it just doesn't make sense. It's not like they were laying right next to each other. It was on the other side of the room. So maybe it was all of like the rumors and what had just happened that got to Frank. Anyways, he was admitted into a mental institution. And that's when he was like, okay, he sees the doctor's notes. And the last note that says to the future directors of the hospital, do not assign doctors to Joe. Do not put him with the rest of the population. Do not let orderly or nurses try to spend too much time with him. He is an unsolvable case. There is no hope. Do this for your own good. And it was also written that like his parents are wealthy so they can afford

his care. They can afford for him to stay there. I mean, they can't afford like the biggest room or anything, but they can afford for him to stay there. I mean, they can't afford to like the biggest room or anything, but they can afford to stay there. And it also made a note that even if they stop paying, find room in your budget, do not release him. And that was it. He found the reference number to the audio tapes. He went to the hospital recording office where they had all of the files. The audio tapes specifically, and they said that those audio tapes don't exist. So he's like, okay, that's it. Like, that was the end of the file. And he goes home and he starts thinking about it and he can kind of understand why this would be such a hard case to diagnose. So this kid, Joe has extreme levels of differences in empathy. So he has something where he can feel no empathy

for others. So he is an extreme sociopath. He doesn't know how to feel sorry when people are in pain. He doesn't know how to relate to that. However, he shows an extreme knowledge of cognitive empathy, which means that you know, you can identify exactly what people are feeling. So like, I can exactly identify that you are feeling nervous right now. That you're feeling uneasy. That you're feeling scared. But I can't feel bad for you for feeling that. So it was just a weird case and this was too developed. This isn't super rare, but it was too

developed for someone who was six. And he said to give you perspective, the way that he read those files and the way that these doctors with medical knowledge saw it was that he had these weird skills of hitting people where it hurts of like a CIA and Terrogator not some spontaneous six-year-old who read a book or is just a little mature for his age Like it just didn't make sense and so he's thinking about it all night his fiancee jocelyn is like hello And so he's thinking about it all night. His fiancee, Jocelyn is like, hello, do I even exist right now? And so he was like, sorry, lots of things at work.

And he goes to sleep that night and he has a nightmare. Now this is a nightmare that he's always had since he was young and it goes a little something like this. So he walks into the hospital and it's just him. And he knows who else is here. There's no doctors, there's no nurses, there's no elderly, there's no other patients. He knows the only other person in the hospital is his mom, because she's calling his name.

And so she, he's walking through the hospital towards her room. And when he opens the door, it's not his mom. It's like this giant creature who just has maggots inside of her and just, she's got all these bruises and cuts. And she keeps you know calling his name Parker Parker and then she walks over and gives him a hug and he has he's feeling all these maggots running across his body and then she starts cackling she starts laughing and then he wakes up he has this

nightmare all the fricking time okay so he's like god this case is like already getting to me so as he's driving to work that? So he's like, God, this case is like already getting to me. So as he's driving to work that next day, he's like, okay, listen, here's the plan. I'm gonna talk to my boss. So his boss has a boss, but he got a boss. His name is Bruce, Dr. Bruce. So he's like, I'm gonna go out to Dr. Bruce

and I'm gonna be like, here's the deal. You know, I'm gonna fix Joe, I promise you. And if I don't, you can fire me, you can do whatever, like he's practicing this whole speech. And as he pulls up to the hospital, it's filled with reporters, police cars, ambulances, and he's like, what the fork? And he runs out of his car, and he sees a bunch of nurses in orderly standing by, so he's like, what happened?

What happened? And they're looking so shocked. They look at him and they say, nessie, and he sees a body bag being transported out of the hospital. And he's like, what happened? I don't know. She was working the night shift. She gave all her patients their meds, went up to the roof, and then jumped off. And so he walked back into that hospital, and now it was personal, because it seems like

it was Joe that made her suicidal. That's what she talked about. Everyone was shocked. The last patient she gave medicine to on her night shifts was always Joe. So now it's a personal thing. Now he's gonna fix Joe because there can be more people who die because of Joe because people are incompetent to diagnose Joe. And so the rest, the couple of weeks after Nessie's death, I mean, he couldn't even bring up Joe to anybody because all of the police were going in in the hospital, just questioning everyone, trying to make sure

was this a suicide or was this like a work related hostile homicide, you know, did a colleague push her off, did a patient escape and push her off, all of these things. And on top of that, like Nessie was the one who held down the fort so everybody was just like I got a call today and like nobody could keep their schedule it was a shit showing the hospital so finally when it calmed down he decided to write his boss Dr.

Bruce a nice little letter and it said listen Dr. Bruce I've decided to pick up more weight around the hospital now that Nessie's gone I I hope you will appreciate that. Here are some patients I would like to add to my roster just to take some weight off of you so that you can better, you know, do what you do. Do the fancy stuff I can't do, which is to lead. You know, so here's a list of patients. So it's a bunch of random patients and then jump. So he's like, okay, this is gonna work.

So he leaves the letter on his boss's desk and then he gets a page to come into the boss's office immediately. And so he's rushing up in there and he's like okay this is my speech, he's got his whole speech ready and he opens the door and Dr. Bruce is like you and your fucking goddamn ego you better sit down. You are lucky I'm not firing you today don't you ever bring up Joe in my office ever again. You think because you're some Ivy League, ooh, you're so fancy that you can go and cure the world.

You need to sit your ass down, okay? You haven't even been here for enough time. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're an idiot. You're just like this giant ego. I'm the king of the king's doctor. Sit your ass down. And that's when the door opens and the director of the hospital doctor rose Which was this very stern face older woman who walked in and she looked very scary

Okay, she immediately was like don't fall around right she walks in slams the door shut and she says Bruce out now and he looks a little bit conflicted, and he's like, you don't know what he's talking about. And she's like, I do, so get out of his own office. So he's like, he gets up, and Dr. Bruce looks back. And this time, he doesn't look angry. And he says, you're doing okay work around here, kid, okay? And I just gonna go fuck it up.

You don't know what you're talking about. You don't want to do this. about. You don't wanna do this. Your other patients need you. And he walked out. So he's like, that's not a weird. And so Dr. Rose sits down and she's like, okay, you wanna be Joe's doctor. I know that.

Everyone's told me that. It's been reported to me. There's nothing in this hospital that I don't know about. So tell me, have you tried talking to Joe? No. I, I, I thought I couldn't talk to Joe. What? It's not like his door is locked.

You have the key to all the doors. He doesn't have a special key to his door. Did you try to talk to him? No, I guess I just, so you were scared, because of what everyone was saying. No, I just didn't, I didn't want to get in trouble. I didn't want to get fired, okay? That's why I didn't talk to him.

Did you read his files? No. If you're gonna lie to me then this meeting is over. I read his files Okay, so what are you diagnosed him with? A sociopath A very sophisticated sociopath Sadistic personality disorder. He likes to see other people in pain Maybe psychological Nality disorder, he likes to see other people in pain, maybe psychological Prageria, which I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right by the way It's kind of like this gene mutation where you end up aging really quickly So a lot of the times it's found physically so usually people who have this disease live till like their mid-20s

But sometimes it can happen just to the brain So maybe that could explain his sophistication and his sociopath, you know, stage and possible ability for shared psychosis, which is rare, but it's not impossible. I mean, you hear about the twins who share psychosis in the same delusions and they jump into running traffic together without saying one single word to each other about their plan and maybe he has an ability to share his psychosis with those that get to know him really well. Maybe his delusions are so strong that they pass on to those nearby, which again,

rare but not entirely impossible. Well, you're wrong. Because you haven't read his file. I literally just told you, I confess to you that I read his file because you thought I was lying. Well, you haven't read his full file. See, I keep his file in my office because I know that all the new doctors, they get a little curious, they go into the record room, they pull up Joe, and I keep a very, very short version in there so that people get scared, and then they won't try to treat Joe.

And usually it works. It's ever you, it's because you think you're a smart-ass. Why do you think I'm not letting Joe have a doctor right now? Um, I don't know. Maybe what happened in S.C. if doctors are dying, then the hospital could be liable. Maybe, maybe you don't want Joe to get worse. Why would Joe get? Maybe, maybe people trigger Joe and if Joe were to hurt himself or hurt someone else, then again, the hospital would be liable and you being the director of the hospital. I guess you would have interest in not being legally liable for things like that.

Unless, unless, unless maybe it's weirder, maybe, maybe he's got some sort of like contagious disease you don't know about. Maybe if people talk to him in the short term, like giving his medicine, it's fine, but maybe in the long run, spending copious amounts of time with someone like Joe would result in some sort of contagion. I don't know. Why don't you ask me what happened to the doctors

who have treated Joe? I don't know. I mean, nobody's really treated him since like the 70s. No, because you don't have the full file. He's actually had a lot of doctors. I myself was one of that. So they go up into her office and she unlocks a cabinet in her office and she pulls out this thick manila folder, which is his real file, Joe's real file, and he's looking around her office and he sees the Ivy League

diplomas, fucking residencies, at some of the top hospitals in the nation, and she's like, yeah, I mean, this was when state funding was great back in the day. And so she sits down and she says, I was his next doctor. So after Dr. Thomas, he was passed on to my table, and honestly, I thought I was a waste of time. I was like, listen, this is a kid with night terrors, you sedate him, he has fear of insects, maybe some exposure therapy, he's a sociopath, you just do some talk therapy, maybe some hypnotherapy, and I thought it was a waste of my fucking time. I was the smartest kid in this hospital. Why

would you put a moot six-year-old who probably already has a diagnosis, treatments even easier on the most valuable doctor on your team? So I was mad. And then I took his case. And four months into it, I went into the medical supply room and I tried to take a bottle of pills. I ended up being in a private institution for a little while. I came back and there was a new doctor on Joe. So the new doctor lasted a couple months and then one day just didn't show up for work so we filed

a missing persons report and the police went to the doctor's house and they said that it seemed like he was having a psychotic break and I say it seemed like it because when they opened the door, the doctor ran out at the police with a knife in his hand, so they shot him. So we don't know. Joe's fourth doctor went into catatonic shock, so we had to admit her.

And she, within a month of staying in a mental institution, ended up letting her throat. Joe's fifth doctor, we decided this time, okay, we need someone tougher, right? We can't have like a cute little nurse, can't have like a cute little doctor around here. We need someone who can really handle it. So we found a doctor who has military background.

They were actually a doctor for the military. They are very stern, no nonsense type of person, and they also worked in a state hospital, not just a state hospital, but a state hospital for the criminally insane. And so we hired him. He lasted 18 months, and then randomly he sent in a one-sentence resignation letter, and we found him in his house with a bullet to the head. Oh my god. So what do you diagnose someone whose madness seems contagious?

And you think you're smart, and we all thought we were smart, but I've seen that madness go over to me, but also some of the best colleagues I've had. So what makes you think you can do it? And so he convinces Dr. Rose that he's not gonna off himself and he says that he's genuinely gonna be open and honest with her.

If he can't handle it, he's gonna stop. Just give him one chance. And so she says, okay, but try not to kill yourself. And if you decide to do that or quit, come to my office first and tell me everything. And so he was like, hell yeah. So he'd left our office and within a couple of weeks, it was gonna be his first time to meet Joe.

Now he walks into that room. He scans his ID card to have access to the patient room and he enters and he was kinda disappointed. Like from what everyone was saying, he was expecting almost like a Halloween type room which just scratches on the wall, blood everywhere. Like that it's barely cleaned And what everyone was saying, he was expecting almost like a Halloween type room, which just scratches on the wall, blood everywhere, like that it's barely cleaned, and just like the smell of urine, like a shit show, he was expecting like a wild animal of some sorts.

But he was just sitting at his desk, he was really like short, maybe 5'6", really thin, almost tooth in, he's got like this really skinny face and like a tiny little voice, like a low voice. So he's like, put the heck, I mean, also that's stupid that he was expecting anything, right? Okay, so he's like, Joe, and he turns around, and he says, you look young, is that a problem? No, it's just, you must have done something really bad. For you to end up in my room.

He's like, no, I wanted to be here, Joe. And he's like, oh, sure. Or you really fuck something up, huh? Okay, it was a little weird. He's kind of comical. The way that Joe is handling this interaction is kind of light. To be so self-aware that nobody wants to be his doctor

is he was kind of decently surprised. So he's like, interesting. So he sits down and he starts talking to Joe. where that nobody wants to be as a doctor is, he was kind of decently surprised. So he's like, interesting. So he sits down and he starts talking to Joe. And he was like, yeah, well, that bitch would send in anyone who she wants to fire. So what do you do? He's like, what?

You know that bitch, Dr. Rose. Every time she wants to fire anyone, she sends them into this room. And they try for months to diagnose me, nothing happens, and then she fires them. It's like a trend. Fires them? Yeah, she doesn't want anyone to make her look bad. And having a new doctor on me makes me seem like a long-lost case, and then my parents

just keep turning over more money to her. That's the plan, so what'd you do? Or maybe you took the bait, maybe you thought you could be my little savior. And he says, okay, Joe, why don't you help me out here? What do you think is wrong with you? How the hell would I know? As far as I'm concerned, it seems like everyone else around me is going mad. And honestly, I think sometimes people are doing it on purpose to make me go mad. How could I tell you, you're the doctor, you try diagnosing me. So many have tried. Nothing's working. Are you not putting two and two together? Rose is literally doing this on purpose. She's keeping me here. I am not sick. I came in here when I was

six for some stupid nightmares I had. And every time she wants to fire someone, they get sent into my room and they can't diagnose me. And these doctors know that she's keeping me in here sane because I'm probably the best source of revenue for this hospital right now. And they go crazy and they decide for months, should they go to the medical board about it? Should they tell the boss's boss? Who's the boss's boss?

Should they go to the government about it? But then every time they try to do it, it doesn't happen. So they lose their minds and they kill themselves. Okay? What? Yeah. Why do you think no one can get a diagnosis? Maybe there's nothing wrong with me.

So you're telling me that they're keeping you here for revenue? How do you diagnose someone who's saying, think about it, you can't, and doctors are smart, so they realize that the hospital is keeping someone who's obviously saying and saying that they're this crazy, mentally ill person for over two decades. And once they find out, they either feel so much guilt that the medical industry is so corrupt, or maybe they realize that nobody's going to listen to them. And if they try to say something that this hospital is going to try their best to tank their career, and for someone who's never been diagnosed, how easy

would it be for one other doctor to contradict your diagnosis? So all those things in the files, I don't even know what's in my file doctor. You know what's in my file. How would I know what's in my file? What about Nathan? I heard about Nathan. Nathan? Nathan was...

Nathan was something else. Nathan was six, and I shared a room with him, and I was ten. And he told me that he can't go to sleep unless I hug him. And he told me exactly what to do, and it's what his dad did every single night, and that's the only way he can go to sleep. And so I did it. I didn't know what I was doing.

I was 10. It wasn't until he was screaming because, I guess, I don't know how things like that work when I'm 10, that people thought I was assaulting him. I didn't know what I was doing. I came in here when I was six. I didn't have I Didn't have the bees and the birds talk. Okay Okay, so then he decides to just talk to him the rest of the 45 minutes

And he seems like a normal dude I mean he's starting to pick up on some cues the fact that he remembered Nathan's name was a little bit interesting because His experience with sociopaths is that they remember the crime and they remember the pain that they inflicted on someone, but they don't really care about identities of people. They don't really think about, oh, her name was this. They usually are like, oh, this was that experience of feeling this pain that she, you know, so it was a little bit weird. There was another moment where a bird flew by and hit itself on the window.

And most of the kids or adults that he saw with sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies would have giggled or not even realized that that happened. But he walked over to the window and he looked shocked and he kept looking down to see if the bird would fly back in the middle of the conversation. So it seemed like all of these little things that are really hard to fake when you're a sociopath especially when you've been in an institution your whole life and you haven't been outside like gathering data about how people show empathy

was really strong. So he's like okay this is weird. So he leaves the room and he wasn't afraid of Joe. He almost felt like maybe this was weird. I mean, what could he do? Think about it. If Joe is telling the truth, what are the implications of that? The hospital is never going to let go of their cash cow. And what are the implications of a state-run hospital keeping someone there because their parents have enough money to send them money? What would that be? Who would he even approach for something like that?

How could he even confirm that theory? Especially when on record, he's known as this crazy psychotic kid, right? But on the other hand, if this is a story that Joe made up and maybe he caught Joe on a good day, maybe Joe decided he was going gonna pull all his dreams and make it seem like he's a normal person, then Joe needs so much help. Because he's so good at pretending to be genuine. He took down his notes and if this was not any other background patient that he had no background information on, if Joe just walked into his office today, he would diagnose him with not even sociopathic disorders or any personality disorders, but mild depression and agoraphobia, which he doesn't want to go outside. He's a little scared of the outside, which is

reasonable for someone who's been locked up for over 20 years. So that was weird. That night he goes home, Dr. Parker Parker and he starts pouring through the notes and He re he listens to the audio tapes that Rose had taken out of Frank the orderly who is staying there he didn't really hear much again He heard Frank's panic attack and nothing else But again this was from the 70s. So how reliable could that cassette be after so many years and then of the first session was Dr. Thomas and it just sounded like Joe as he does today is kind of like a scared, timid kid.

It's very consistent with how he talked to Joe today. It's not this angry, violent person. All these other notes are saying he is. He just sounds like almost hopeless and just like, ah, what the heck? And he decides to go over the rest of the notes that he hadn't read yet. So he goes over Rose's notes, Dr. Rose's notes.

And her notes were exactly as he thought it would be, but a little weird. Her notes weren't thorough. None of the doctors were. Most of the doctor notes just seemed like grounds for a malpractice lawsuit. None of them had detailed anything. None of them had detailed experiences, conversations,

or anything like that, a doctor would usually take note of. Nothing that they said that they wrote down. And Rose's notes was also like that. She would write things like, you know, this is a waste of my time in her journal. And then I went to, oh, I'm excited to try this therapy with him. Cool, it's going to be great. And that was about it. And then suddenly a random suicide note. From Rose, Dr. Rose. So he was starting to think maybe Joe's story makes sense. Because almost immediately after this happened, Dr. Rose was given the director position. So maybe she was in on it with Dr. Thomas because nothing else was taped except for that

first session with Joe, where he sounded like a scared kid And then the rest was just Dr. Thomas's note saying this is the most evil kid ever and then he passed it on to his Favorite student doctor Dr. Rose and then she made up this crazy story that he's psychotic and she tried to kill herself and then she was promoted to being director because it was time for Dr. Thomas to retire. Maybe she had secured this patient as a source of funding for the hospital and was rewarded. That wouldn't seem too crazy for a hospital like this. I mean he grew up having to

deal with his mom's you know institution and they're all sleazy. They just care about keeping the lights on. That would make sense. And all the other doctors, none of them have precise notes. What are the odds? And he starts visiting Joe and more, more and more. And every time Joe's just, he's not necessarily pleasant, but he's never angry or violent. He's just kind of like hopeless. Like, it is what it is. You can't do shit for me, dude. It's fine.

Like, we can sit here. You're probably going to get fired for not being able to diagnose me. You're going to go crazy because you know that the hospital's keeping me sane. I don't know what to tell you, okay? Like, he would just kind of be like, I don't know.

I've been through this for two decades. I don't know what to tell you. Like, you're the doctor. And he was just like, what is happening? And then he started thinking, you know, Nessie was scared of Joe, but Nessie was never suicidal. She had kids at home that she loved. And so he asked Joe, what happened the night Nessie died? I was excited that night. She said she would get me out. She was doing my meds every day for years now and because no other doctor had talked to me for years, she said that she

was going to talk to the doctors and tell them I'm doing great. And to maybe even ease me into hanging out with the rest of the patients just to prove that I'm really adjusting well. And so she promised. And and then that happened and he started crying. And so I mean obviously he might just be crying for the fact that he can't get out which is normal but it did make sense because Nessie was not suicidal. Maybe Nessie found out what the hospital was doing Nessie found out what the hospital was doing. And one of them pushed her off the roof that day. He can't really explain it, but he knows something's wrong with the hospital.

And so he comes up with this plan and this had been months of talking to Joe. And not one second, did he see anything weird with Joe? Again, he's not the best pleasant person, but he's definitely not a sociopath, he's not the best pleasant person, but he's definitely not a sociopath, he's not a sadistic person. With months of talking to him, he would have seen it. I mean, this is a doctor. This isn't just like a random person you meet on the street who's like, oh my god, you can't be a sociopath because you're nice to me. This is a doctor who's literally

looking for those tiny little signs that something's wrong with you. So he was like, there's nothing wrong with him. And there's no way that I can keep him locked up in here. But if I go out and tell anyone with those doctors notes on the record, he's never going to be released. And it's just not going to work. So he decides to do a crazy plan. He said, in a couple of weeks, he's going to leave his coat in Joe's room with his key. And in the pocket, it's gonna be a printed map of the hospital. And when he leaves, he's gonna pull the fire alarm

and Joe's gonna leave. Now, Joe is gonna go the other way while the other patients are being evacuated. Joe is not known to evacuate, like he's not known to be a runaway, so no one's gonna be looking for Joe. And no one, no nurse, no orderly, no doctors, ever gonna be accused of letting Joe escape. Because it's Joe, nobody likes Joe.

And so he's like, okay, that's the plan. So the next couple of weeks, he's like, I need to make sure that this is the right idea because if it's not, I'm releasing God knows who into the society, right? So he keeps talking to Joe and he's like, what about your parents? Why don't they come and visit you?

You know, did you do something to them? No. No, I mean, my parents you? You know, did you do something to them? No. No, I mean, my parents are part of like the prep school America. I mean, the minute that they found out that I was broken, they just didn't really care. I mean, yeah, they keep me alive, but they don't really care. My dad was, he was something else. My mom never liked me. I wasn't a lot of pets. I really wanted a cat, and my dad was allergicorgic. So there's this one stray cat. She was nice. She was really cute and so I would go out into the garden and I would always leave little food for her like Cantuna. And so she would stop by a lot. I would bring a book and I would read

with that cat because I just didn't get along with my parents. And then one day my dad saw me and he came out and he dropped kick the cat into the woods behind our house. I was so upset because I was the reason that the cat didn't run away because it's a stray cat, so it was really scared of humans at first and then I kept giving her food and I kept spending time with her and then she wasn't scared of humans, so when my dad came towards us, she didn't even think about running away this time. And then my dad started beating me in the garden. My mom ran out and said, don't let the neighbors here, don't let the neighbors see. And then my dad turned around and punched her in the face, and she had a black guy for two weeks.

And what's weird is like, I feel like my mom thought it was my fault that she had a black guy. Because ever since then, she would always look my mom thought it was my fault that she had a black guy. Because ever since then she would always look at me like everything was my fault. So I don't think they really cared of his at me. And I don't think I really cared too much about it either. What a detailed story. Yeah. And the cat's name was FIGBOTOM.

Because apparently his, I don't know, the FIGBOTOM word was weird. So cat's name was FIGBOT bottom until she was dropped kicked into the woods. So then he leaves. Dr. Parker leaves that room and he's like, you know, that is a really detailed story, which usually indicates is genuine or is like this dude's insane. We have so the doctor thought about that too. Yeah, but he is like, you know, but everything else doesn't lean towards that. And so he's like, okay, this is going to be the greatest escape. I'm going to do this. I'm going to

do this for Joe. I mean, usually when you're a sociopath, you have no feelings towards animals, and he was showing genuine sadness for that cat. So he decided to do the greatest escape. So that day he goes into Joe's room and Joe is like, you're crazy. What are you doing? And he's like, it's never going to work. It's OK, Joe. I'm going to go ring the fire alarm and you run. This is dumb. You could literally lose your license. It's OK, Joe.

I trust you, OK? And then he gave him a hug. And as he was about to run out of the room, a big buff orderly grabs him and slams him into the wall. And Dr. Bruce comes walking down the hall with another orderly who runs into Joe's room and grabs his lab coat and he starts getting dragged. Dr. Parker away.

And they're like, what were you trying to do, huh? And he was like, you guys are keeping a sane patient here for money. This hospital is corrupt. You guys are keeping him here for money. This is the most corrupt institution ever. He's screaming this as he's getting pulled, dragged down the hallway. And that's when he hears it. And he doesn't know if it's the adrenaline.

But he hears a laugh. But that laugh is weird. It's his mom's laugh in his nightmare. So he's like, okay, I must be losing it, right? It's the adrenaline of like getting caught doing this. He gets dragged into Dr. Rose's office, slammed onto the ground, and in that office are two doctors, Dr. Rose, and this is really old dude. And that's when he realizes that must be Dr. Thomas, Joe's first doctor and Dr. Rose, the only other doctors that have survived Joe.

And so they're looking at him just frowning and they're like, what were you thinking? And they look at each other and they start talking and they're like, okay, so probably what he was doing is he found out that Dr. Parker has this obsession with helping people that can't be helped. Something to do with his mom? We looked at your records, Dr. Parker. This was Joe's method of torture for you. You can't help him just like you can't help your mom, okay?

What are you talking about? You guys are the nasty ones. I know what both of you guys did. You guys were his first two doctors and so coincidentally, the only ones alive, you guys are keeping him here for money and anyone who speaks out, you're gonna what? Try to convince people I committed suicide.

My fiance would never buy it. She would never stop digging and you guys will be caught. I swear to you. And they're about just sitting there laughing at him. And he's like, don't you dare laugh at me. How do you think we know about what you were trying to do today? I don't know. I think you had some orderlies follow me. Joe told us. Joe wanted to talk to Dr. Rose and told her all about your little plan to help him escape.

Why would Joe tell you that? Dr. Thomas looks at Dr. Rose and is like, tell him the story. When I first came in and I was assigned Joe, I was annoyed. I thought he was a shit patient. I thought he was a waste of my time and I'm sure you read that in the notes. And then I was like, you know what? Maybe it'll be okay. And so I decided to come up with a treatment plan, some hypnotherapy, some exposure therapy, a lot of talk therapy, and he was getting so good. I think a part of him maybe saw me as a mom and because I grew up being bullied and I wasn't really close to any of my family or friends.

I also kind of took him under my wing. There was a little bit of a maternal connection there and for the first four months It was amazing. He was happy. He was well-adjusted. He was so good with everyone. The nurses loved him and I thought you know the way to prove it was to give him a cat that he was going to keep. And for the first week, if he could keep well care of that cat, he would be, you know, joining the rest of his patients. He would join group therapy. And then if the cat was still good, then we could talk about a potential release with his parents. And for the six days, he treated that cat like an absolute angel.

And on the last day, I literally pranced on over to his room, so excited, and I opened the door. And that cat was dead, and it was decapitated. It had been tortured. And in the cat's blood on his wall, he wrote, nozy Rosey, which is what I was bullied with when I was in elementary school. I never talk about my past or anything personal with any of my patients got for bid,

a young kid like Joe, and he always knew me by my doctor's name. My first name's Rose. Nobody ever called me Rose. So, I don't know how he knew that, but I broke. And I left that room and I tried to take a bottle of pills. I don't know why he killed that cat. I don't he loved that cat. Dr. Parker is like, what was the cat's name? I don't know. Fig something? What was the cat's name? I don't know, fig something?

Fig bottom? Yeah. So Parker, what is your diagnosis for someone who can just almost like read your mind and taunt you with things that you were taunted with long time ago? That you've never talked to him about. I mean, what is your diagnosis? That's why you're not his doctor.

I'm still his doctor. So Dr. Thomas says this is your diagnosis? That's why you're not his doctor. I'm still his doctor. So Dr. Thomas says this is his diagnosis. We think that Joe is a product of suggestiveness. So the first night that he came in here, we suggested that it was in his imagination. And then he was trying to hurt people. So then we suggested that he was a bad boy. And nurse said, you're a bad boy. Then he became a bad boy, and then another nurse called him a monster. And he became a monster almost. We also believe that his dad was sadistic and sexually

assaulting him, so that monster in his room was a product of his trauma from his sexual abuse. And when we told him on his first night here that that monster was a product of his imagination and not something else and was actually inside of him, how do you think that that kid probably felt like a monster. But when you're six, your brain cannot think that you are a monster. You can't believe it. And so that's when he created a second personality inside of him that was the monster.

And over time that monster would get just more prevalent in his life. And we believe that his delusions were so strong. So the monster when he first came in, he would constantly say that his monster wanted him to feel bad. So that's why he kept his eyes open like this, remember? And now that monster truly believes that he wants other people to feel bad. And now he believes that that monster is within him. Okay, but that still doesn't make any sense. Okay, first of all, that doesn't make sense.

Dr. Parker is like, that doesn't make sense to me. Okay, first of all, we have no proof that his dad was sexually abusing him. That's a big claim. We don't just like hypothesize these things. And that sounds crazy. It almost sounds as crazy as if there was like a real monster here. I think I tried like an exorcism. He's just like desperate at this point.

And Dr. Thomas is like, how dare you? In the name of science, bring Dr. Rose. It's like, okay, just, we tried one. We brought in a priest and we tried one, but the priest, midway through ran out in tears, refused to finish anything, and we never took down in notes because we'd beat the laughing stock

of the medical community for trying to perform an exorcism. We don't even know if legally that would be correct back then. But none of this makes sense. We know Dr. Parker, and that's why you're taking off his case. No, just let me try one thing, okay? I know it's gonna sound crazy, but I wanna try talking to his parents.

I wanna go to his house. And if his dad or his parents show any sign of like a hidden, sadistic relationship filled with sexual abuse, I feel like I could probably see it or like any sign of it, any inkling. You know, I'm a psychiatrist, I have, this is literally what I was, I feel like I could probably see it or like any sign of it, any inkling, you know, I'm a psychiatrist. I have this is literally what I was I studied this. This is my life. I'm sure I can find it. Just let me do that. And if I'm wrong, if there's nothing, then yeah, you're right. This is his diagnosis. He was

sexually abused and he's prone to suggestiveness. Maybe he has some sort of other disorder, but just give me one chance. And maybe it's even good for the hospital because then the parents will think we care so much. So they think about it and they let him go. So the next day he starts driving to the expensive part of

Connecticut. And he's like, God damn, these houses are big. And that also brings up the question, if they're this rich, why? Why keep him at a hospital like, Goddamn, these houses are big. And that also brings up the question, if they're this rich, why? Why keep him at a hospital like CSH? That's so underfunded. And so he approaches the house and he walks in and the parents were expecting him,

but it's just the mom. And she said that the data has died 10 years ago and please come in. So she escorts him into the living room and he sees just lots of taxidermy on all the walls like lots of moose lots of other things and he sees this one That's like a nightmare. It's got this like bulbous head like a million eyes on it And he's like staring at it and his mouth is open and she's like, I know awful isn't it? It's um it was for Joe.

We had an artist come and draw the monster he saw on his wall and we had this commissioned and his dad came home one day and said, see Joe, your monster can't hurt you anymore because I hunted it down and I killed it for you. Didn't really work, obviously. Um, what? did for you. Didn't really work, obviously. But I kept it up there because it reminds me of both of them in a weird way. Anyways, do you have any questions for me? I will do anything to help my little Joe. So he says, okay, just looking around, I know this is rude, but why CSH? And she said, I know. So we wanted Joe to go to a bunch of prep schools in Connecticut and they they know all the hospitals in the area. They're all in your connected. Some of the people on the boards of prep schools are part of some of the best institutions in Connecticut.

So we thought maybe we could take them to CSH. Pay a bunch of money to keep it hidden and he would still have a clean record for his prep school applications. and he would still have a clean record for his prep school applications. Which was dumb in hindsight because he never left, but by that point, we were advised that any other change of scenery would be hard on Joe. So we just kind of kept him there and when did all of this start? Well, we moved into this house when Joe was five and I was pregnant with his little sister and we decided that he was going to get his first big boy room He was going to sleep all by himself And so we let him pick out the color of the walls the bed everything he had so many toys everything was done Perfectly we had an interior designer help and he laid eyes on that room

And he absolutely loved it. He was so excited and the first night that he slept in that room He woke up screaming so that there was this monster on the wall. And of course, him being five, we thought, you know, this is just him being scared to sleep alone. And so we made him sleep alone a little more, and he just could not sleep. He just screamed all night, cried all night. So then we hired a nanny to take over.

And we told the nanny to wear him down, just make him run around all day. So that at night, he'd be so tired, he'd knock out, wouldn't have a dream, wouldn't have a thought and sight, which is be a tired little five-year-old kid. And at first, she was a good nanny. And then one day we saw her just like screaming at things, like not even people, just screaming, talking to walls and screaming at them. And so we were like, okay, maybe she's tired from all this Joan on since. So we fired her and it just kept happening more and more and then we took him to the hospital for his first visit and he came back and in the car he was so excited.

He said, mom, dad, I learned today it's all in my brain. I'm gonna tell the monster it's in my brain and I'm gonna, tonight the monster's gonna come out and I say, you're not real, you're in my brain. I'm gonna tonight the monster is gonna come out And I say you're not real you're in my brain And so we were so excited we were so happy and so that night he goes to sleep He's so excited and we hear this tiny little in the middle of the night and we go to the door And we were expecting more screaming because usually his nightmare is oh god He screams in the whole neighborhood getting around but that was it so we thought okay

We're gonna let him deal with it because that was it. So we thought, okay, we're gonna let him deal with it because that was probably him, you know, giving up his heroic effort. And the next morning we opened the door and there was just blood everywhere. And he was bleeding from his arms. And he was looking so shocked. He wouldn't even tell us what happened. So we brought him into the hospital. And that was that. Do you mind if I see his room? Yeah, I mean, I kept it exactly the way it is just in case.

So they went up to the fourth floor, and they opened the door to his room. And it was a beautiful room. I mean, there was really no signs of like any sort of weirdness going on. And she said, that's the wall that he thinks the monster lives on. And it was this giant like plain wall and it was an outer wall.

So he starts looking and she says, it's a little weird for me to be in here, a little painful. So call me if you need anything. And so she leaves and he's looking around and there's no signs of abuse or an investigation. He was thinking maybe if there was, you know, unknown bugs that nobody could find, and he had this immense fear of bugs that could drive him to insanity,

and he didn't find anything. And he keeps looking and he's about to give up when he sees a part of the carpet in his room has lifted. And so he looks and he peels it back, and there's dried blood under, and it leads to the wall where the monster's not. So he peels it back and there's dried blood under and it leads to the wall where the monster's not. So he peels it back more and there's more blood. And so he calls for the mom and he says, can I open up this wall? Just trust me. And she's like, if you're his doctor and you think it'll

help fine. And so she brings him an axe and he bangs on the wall and keeps banging on it and he opens it up and he sees the skeleton of a small child in there. And the mom comes over and she starts screaming and crying and they both realize that that's Joe. So if that's Joe, who's the person in the hospital? So he says call the police, call the police. She's screaming, crying, she calls the police. He's racing back towards the hospital, and he makes it in, and he reaches Joe's room,

and Joe's standing there with a cricket smile, just smiling at him. And he's like, okay, something in him is telling him to go check up on Jocelyn, something strong, his fiance. He's like, just go check up on your fiance. Like, he just feels this weird, who is this person? I feel like they're f**king with me.

Like, he felt like he was going insane. And so he runs out of the hospital, and all he can think about is Joe's stupid cricket smile through the window, just like this evil cricket smile. And so he runs out of the hospital and he makes it home in Jocelyn's vine. And so he's like, okay, I gotta go back to the hospital and that's when he gets a page.

There was an electricity power out at the hospital and the first couple of floors have been flooded for some reason and Joe escaped. Oh my God. And so he started to freaking out. And so the next couple of weeks, he's just literally on edge. Everyone's like, it's gonna be okay.

Like he's not gonna come after you. Joe's mom ended up dying. She committed suicide by jumping out of Joe's childhood window. What's weird is that there was no record in any report that he could find that there was any skeleton or anything else found in the house. They just reported it as widow, widower. The skeleton is gone? Yeah, just dies. Dr. Thomas was found of heart failure by one of his housekeepers. He couldn't

get a hold of Dr. Rose and nobody believed what was happening. And then one day, Jocelyn called from the police station. She had been assaulted, coming out of the library. And so they decided to pack up all of their things and Jocelyn was really never the same. I mean, they moved way out of Connecticut. He doesn't want to disclose where

because he doesn't know what's going on. But they moved to a different state. They got married. And Jocelyn was just never really the same. Like she dropped out of her, you know, PhD. She just was not... Yeah. She was just stayed at home all the time.

Never wanted to make new friends. And then you're probably wondering why he's writing this. Well, a couple weeks ago, Jocelyn found out that she was pregnant. And she came up to me frantically and she said, listen, I just need you to get that out in the world. I don't want my kid to live in a world where people like that or whatever that was are just out there.

I need you to warn people, okay? And how could I say no? Because this was the first time that Jocelyn didn't have a crooked smile on her face What what do you mean? Okay, so in the book itself I changed the ending a little bit in the book itself Joe is some sort of like monster. He's like some sort of sheepshifting insect monster. I was like I like that shit I'll fuck with it. I don't like it. It's not scared of me. So he's like a demon. Yeah. I don't like that. I like that either. She. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be setting up for some psychological shit and then be like and then he had 10 eyes appear out of his

forehead and he was staring at me like you little b**** you know. so you changed it to what? But the crooked smile was still there. Everything was there. I only admitted the part where he knew that Joe was a monster. So even this, it seems like the ending like either that monster is now living inside of Jocelyn or she's one of them. We don't know. I see. But he loves Jocelyn too much. To kill her. To kill her or to say anything like that. I see I Thought you're gonna have a baby and the baby's gonna say daddy. There's a monster on the wall That's scary. That's why I don't feel a kid's okay. You know where I thought this was going what this is very similar to Orphan oh where they replaced the kid. Yeah, yeah, I thought this was going. This is very similar to Orphan. Oh, were they replaced the kid?

Yeah, yeah, I thought so too. I was like, okay, I think maybe it was like a twin that the parents didn't want to give up or something. I thought so too, yeah. But then it went like here and I was like, what? So the ending was a little lacking. Feel like a watch fund of this. Creepy movies.

Yeah, pretty good. How's the lighting? The writing's good the monster chapter I was kind of angry because like the monster would get like a weird voice and And I was like I Hate those movies like the mister whatever where everything's so scary. I almost liked um the bird box Because like you don't really see them. A lot of people like dry fox. Yeah, but like I don't like it when like you have all of that setup and then suddenly you see like tentacles appearing in frame.

I'm like, you better f**king stop! You better chill! That's a sea-fluid boil. Why y'all scared? Cause I'm muckbangers. We're coming. Put a tentacle off. Why y'all scared? Caught some mukbangers. We'll come in. Tentacle off. Sorry. Anyways.

Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. I hope you guys enjoyed today's story. I hope you guys don't even notice the fact that this is baking a mystery without any baking at all. And I'll see you guys tomorrow. Peace! That's him. If anyone's listening, that's him telling people that he's gonna get rid of me. I'll see you guys tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Peace!

That's him. If anyone's listening, that's him telling people that he's gonna get rid of me. Find my body.