Saturn Returns with Caggie - 1.5 Find Your Unique Strengths with Human Design

Episode Date: April 27, 2020

Caggie explores Human Design, a system that aims to help us access our body's consciousness and the unique gifts that are our birthright. Through life we may have become disconnected from our purpose, but Human Design is a tool to show us how we best operate in the world. Olivia Iasonos explains that, when we work with our design, we can become more aligned with our truest self, and our individual chart will highlight our natural intelligence and help with direction and decision making.  --- Follow or subscribe to "Saturn Returns" for future episodes, where we explore the transformative impact of Saturn's return with inspiring guests and thought-provoking discussions. Follow Caggie Dunlop on Instagram to stay updated on her personal journey and you can find Saturn Returns on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok.  Order the Saturn Returns Book. Join our community newsletter here.  Find all things Saturn Returns, offerings and more here.

Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me, Kagi Dunlop. This is a new podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be confusion and doubt. and doubt. Tuning into what's inherently ours and what we're good at and shining a light on what our gifts and our purpose is allows us to come back to ourselves you know and that's the feeling of when you understand your design and start living your design that home is inside of each one of us and we don't need to kind of look externally for this feeling of... Completeness. Yeah. In this episode of Saturn Returns, we have human design expert Liv Lassanos on,

which I'm so excited about because human design is probably something that a lot of you aren't familiar with and I was only made familiar with it at the end of last year when a friend of mine Kelly took me to Liv's workshop and it completely blew my mind and I found it incredibly fascinating and it really helped inform me a lot about myself and what my gifts are and how to operate in the world so you get a human design chart which is like a body graph and using your birthday and the time of birth and the place you were born it reveals a genetic design and we can use this design to access our body's consciousness and as a decision making tool it's a relatively new thing that actually a man came up with, as we'll discuss, in Ibiza in the 80s, which I was a little sceptical about,

but just bear with it and be open because I think it will really help a lot of you if you're at a point where you're unsure about career or where to go in life how to navigate your next step because for instance I I'm someone that requires a lot of time alone but in society that's not always encouraged and I've often felt a bit weird about it I'm like am I just really antisocial or what's going on and through my design I could see that actually it's really important for me to have that time alone and to for me to be able to

operate properly in the world I need I need those moments and in the same breath you might find that actually you're someone that really thrives off being around lots of people or you might find that you need to be working with the energy of the moon like there's all sorts of different categories and that can help dictate how how you should move in this in this life so yeah it's it's quite a lot to digest but I think Liv explains it amazingly and I suggest you listen to this episode and remain open because I think it will really help you. It really helped me. And afterwards, do a little bit of research about it and see what you think. But I hope you take something from this episode and you enjoy it because I loved it. Hello and welcome, Libby.

Hi, Kagi. Can you tell us a little bit about what human design is? Yeah sure, so human design is a system that pulls together the wisdom of astrology, the I Ching, the Kabbalah tree of life and the Hindu chakra system. That is fascinating. How did you get into it? So I had a reading done myself a few years ago and I was searching for my purpose, wondering, you know, there must be more to life than my job and wasn't feeling very fulfilled. And I guess it was kind of around or a little bit before my Saturn return. And I had a reading done and it felt like I was just being read like an open book

I couldn't explain how somebody else knew so much about me who hadn't met me before who didn't know me and it really just gave me a sense of self-acceptance and understanding. Do you think it gave you the freedom to then go on to what you've done now yeah I think it kind of it allowed me to see what my inherent gifts and skills were what my purpose and life theme were and tune into those and you know somewhere along the lines I just stopped trying to be somebody else supposed to be yeah because you were in law which is so different from what you're doing now and to make that shift shift is really impressive, actually, because so many people just think, well, I'm so far gone in this and I'm doing quite well. And when I sort of make sense and I think it's what I it was supposed to look like and don't give themselves the freedom to actually jump ship. Yeah. Which you did. So that's incredibly impressive.

Thank you. I think I was feeling quite lost and unfulfilled. And those feelings together can really drive you to want to change something, I think. So really, yeah, looking within those feelings that we're having is a call to wake up. There's something out there. And how would you say for someone that never really has to look within? How would you say for someone that never really has to look within? I think so that's exactly where human design helps us because it can identify where in the body the signals are that we need to listen to. So what part of our energetic body is trying to communicate to us to show us something's off or to guide us in the right direction. So, you know, at its most basic, it's just an excellent self-awareness tool. That is actually probably the easiest way of describing it

because I don't want it to sound too complicated to people because in a way it is quite complicated. It's quite a lot to digest. And I think when I came and did the workshop, I mean, you spoke so eloquently about it. But going back to basics, could could you tell me who was it that came up with the idea because that's quite an extraordinary story in itself isn't it I have Ibiza in my mind that's right yeah you've got it so there was a guy who um it's called Ra Uruhu

and he was living in Ibiza he was originally from Canada and he'd moved to the island and had been living there. And he entered into an eight day meditation where it was said that he heard a voice and he downloaded the human design system as we know it today. Yeah, I mean, absolutely incredible. And can you imagine? I mean, the story goes that he kind of tried to run away from it a bit because it was all so intense. Anyhow he spent the rest of his life kind of devoted to the system to bring it together as we know it now to teach people how to read human design charts. So when was that? That was in January 87 so it's quite a new system. It's really new.

Yeah. Wow. But it pulls together the wisdom of ancient systems. So it's very profound, very detailed, and there's so much information you can get from a chart. Because I think what we're going to do today is go into mine a little bit so people get a demonstration of how it works. into mind a little bit so people get a demonstration of how it works because in this in a similar way to astrology and that we are categorized it works in a similar way doesn't it yeah that's right yeah so in human design we have our energy type um which i guess akin to astrology is kind of like your sun sign so understanding your energy type is the entry point to human design. And you can get so much just from knowing your energy type.

And then there are other kind of pieces of the chart that we pulled together to give a flavor of what your energetic blueprint is like. So, yeah, five different energy types. And can you talk us through them? Yeah, sure. So we usually start with the manifestors and they are about 10% of the population. Manifestors are the true initiators in this lifetime. And, you know, our collective conditioning says that we should all be going out hustling, driving to get, but actually that's only energetically correct for about 10% of the population. So we're kind of living in a

conditioned world where we're all trying to go, go, go, go, go, but it's only really right for this small number of people. So we're categorized into energy types and non-energy beings, really. So manifestors, generators, and manifesting generators are all what we call energy beings. And then you have projectors and reflectors, which are non-energy beings. And so and so I mean just with the word manifester it doesn't mean that the other types can't manifest it's just the way that we use our energy is important so manifestors are the ones that are like high energy and can be out all the time so they really they have a very quick catalyzing energy and they initiate things very quickly and they're the only type that don't need to wait for something to happen before they just go. They don't like being told no, and they don't like

being told don't. Because of the size of their aura, they're kind of just ready to rise to the top, really. And sometimes they can have this repelling effect where they almost push others away as they get to the top. But really, you know, that energy isn't designed to go consistently. It will come in fits and starts because you can't keep going at that lightning speed forever. So learning to play with that energy is really important for the manifester. And their strategy in human design is to inform, which really means just to let other people know what's going on. Because they have such quick catalyzing energy, they'll go off and then everyone will be left behind, like waiting, waiting for them. Where have you gone, Manifestor? And they kind of,

that creates a bit of a dissonance in the auras of people. So some people, you know, rise to the top without really having a thought for anyone else. But I think the Manif today really have the option to say to people like, are you going to come join my journey with me? And that is the strategy that they should take through life to let other people know what they're doing. It's kind of like just a courteousness. Is there an example of someone that's well known? Yes. So Hitler was a manifesto. Trump well yeah and they say you know he came into power in the way that um it's just like i'm going for this unapologetically nothing's stopping me yeah i don't care what anyone thinks yeah so manifestos in their highest vibration are going to be very empowering people and they'll feel a sense of peace when life's going the right way. So for each of the types,

there's a signature theme of when stuff's going well in flow and when maybe things need to be adjusted. And the universe is sending us a bit of a signal to say, hang on a sec, let's get back on track. So the get back on track sign for manifestors is anger. So if you are a manifestor, then I'm feeling angry a lot of the time it's a sign for you to kind of yeah look up and see what's going on here and peace is when things are going well yeah that sense of peace and what about the other ones so we have generators and manifesting generators so generators are the majority of the population together with manifesting generators make up about 70%. So most likely you'll be surrounded by generators. And if you aren't

a generator or manifesting generator, you know that you're in the minority. And so things will be a bit different. But generators are these beings who are designed to really respond to life using their, what we call their sacral chakra. So when we look at a human design chart, which, by the way, you can get a copy of yours if you're wondering how to find your design. You can go onto a website called mybodygraph.com and you pop in your birth details, much like astrology, and it brings up your chart. you pop in your birth details much like astrology and it brings up your chart and this website will kind of have the basics of what you are and um what your strategy is your energy type your strategy and will come on to authority which is your unique decision making um so yeah if you see that you're a generator you're going to have that juicy life force to go in life and they're here to respond to life using their sacral chakra to really um

have more energy by being engaged in the things that they love doing but we're living in a world where people aren't doing the things that they love doing so we're living in a world of conditioned generators really um so the idea is that we want to kind of make generators aware of their designs and how they can use their energy because when they have so much of it and they have a consistent sense of it to put towards something that they love and when they do that they'll get more energy so if as a generator you're feeling drained and frustrated the not self theme the signpost from the universe stuff isn't going right then your energy isn't being put towards things that you love doing and you know we can live in a world where we can put our energy towards stuff that we love doing

and it doesn't have to be hard and heavy like we were saying there was when I was younger I was naturally someone that was very in flow and things would just fall into place yeah and on I just be on the right path naturally. But then I just remember picking up on things like my mother would sort of have this approach that was more like it shouldn't be easy. Like life needs to be a bit hard. Otherwise it's not working. And obviously she didn't mean anything by that. That's her own conditioning and her own experience.

But then I remember thinking like, oh, things need to be difficult. then the more I went into that the more difficult they became and the more off path I went and the more lost and then the more I was trying to create the narrative in my own head of how things were supposed to go rather than just literally stepping one foot in front of the other and it just going according to plan yeah and i think people are fearful of people living that way sometimes because it's so when someone's walking uniquely to their own path it can be threatening to the masses that aren't yeah i mean human design really is embodied in this one word conditioning that we experience from a really young age and the idea is that we're born perfect and by the age of five or six we are we've been conditioned by the auric influences of people

around us like our caregivers our parents our peers school and that takes us off who we are here to be so navigating back and I get it you know when you were younger you were probably in that state of being in your design and life flowing but when we kind of step away from our own truth and our path that's when we go down the feelings of like being lost and maybe trying to use our mind to work out how to move forward also in today's culture when we are given a thousand different opinions 24 7 and with social media and everything it's it's very hard to to quiet that to keep that noise out and to just create the stillness and silence within us to know where we're supposed to be going what would your advice be for for that

really I think understanding your design is like the first step really because that enabled me to get back onto my track and know that um I had my own truth and you know there's many truths obviously with in in this lifetime but honing and kind of tuning into what's inherently ours and what we're good at and shining a light on what our gifts and our purposes allows us to come back to ourselves you know and that's the feeling of when you understand your design and start living your design that home is inside of each one of us and we don't need to kind of look externally for for this feeling of um you know completeness yeah and also I think what I can almost hear people thinking

whilst listening to this well I couldn't just do that because it wouldn't make me a success and I think it's important to say this that there isn't one version of success even though that's what we're told and we're usually told that it's to do with money yeah and of course like it's important to have our basic needs met but beyond that actually more money doesn't make you happier or feel more purposeful or fulfilled yeah but doing this kind of work and really establishing what your unique path is that will bring you success anyway I believe and that it might not look to everyone else like their idea of success but it will feel like that to you you know when we look at the chart we can see some

people who have um what we call the defined heart the ego center these people might be driven by success and material needs and wants and desires like that and actually it's only 30 of the population that do um yeah yeah we're all chasing it exactly we're all we're all running around as if we have defined hearts when actually they're only about 30 of us do okay and what about the other ones yeah so coming back to um so the manifesting generators these these type are the hybrid of a generator and a manifester, but more generator by design. And again, here to respond to life using that sacral chakra, the second one up in the chart. And the more that they engage in those things that they love doing, the more energy they'll

have. And when they have that response to go, then they can put forward their manifesting capabilities and their actual powerhouses forward their manifesting capabilities and their actual powerhouses the manifesting generators they have a very big um aura and energy and they're very dynamic when they're in flow the idea with a manifesting generator is that they have lots of different fingers and all all of the pies so you know we're taught again through conditioning that we just have that one linear path the mgs are here to take us out of that path, out of that one hard heavy and, you know, explore many different interests. Because each of the interests and the things that they're drawn towards, their passions, will teach them a skill or a lesson or something that they're here to maybe share with the collective.

Really, variety is the spice of life for them. collective really the variety is the spice of life for them yeah because I think in the same way that you know we we have lots of relationships and life and friendships and we change yet our careers are supposed to be quite concrete from a very young age it's a bit unnatural and unrealistic and I think that whenever I've tried to really go to tunnel vision on one thing that hasn't no right for me and actually I went to see a um a healer not that long ago yeah and she was asking me about what I did and I was like I'm a singer and she was like it's not resonating in your body and I was like I know why and she was like no no keep going she was like there's truth there but keep going and I was like I know why and she was like no no keep going she was like there's truth there but keep going and I was like I'm a songwriter and she was like this is true and she was like and

and I was just going on about all the things that I'm passionate about and do and she was like okay afterwards she's like you need to completely open up your language about what you're doing and what you want to do in life and don't be afraid to seem like it's a lot of things yeah and now I'm a bit more like that's that's part of what I do but it's not the only thing yeah and there are these other things and these are the things I'm interested in these are the things I'm passionate about and strangely by opening it up it's become a lot clearer and more concise yeah and I feel like every day more confident in myself about who I am and like what I'm contributing. Yeah. And your chart suggests that there are going to be a few things that you're kind of drawn towards or here to express in this lifetime.

So not having just that one linear pathway of being a singer, maybe it's like this. There's so much more that we can explore here. So many gifts you have to offer out to people. So maybe we can touch on projectors now because that's what you are. And projectors are about 25% of the population and they are the born guides for the community. So their role is really to kind of... Warring for the community. I'm joking. Yeah, really, they see how the trouble is so projectors they're one of what i explained

are non-energy beings they don't have this consistent life force energy that the generators and the manifesting generators do and their idea is that they really can see things very well they work well one-to-ones they see into people very well they see systems very well but our conditioning is kind of not telling us that there's any good from just being able to see stuff that we need to be one of the generators or the manifesting generators going going going you know but really the projector's gift is in seeing and so they're here to guide us and guide the other energy types to how we're all doing really and where we can maybe improve things or where the energy needs to shift. As projectors, they live in what we call an environment of recognition. And this is linked

to their strategy of waiting for an invitation. So the idea with projectors is that they have a gift or a thing or a niche that they want to explore. And they can kind of go down this rabbit hole of getting really good and exploring this one thing that they're very drawn to in that moment and they kind of become a bit of an expert in it maybe the system that they see or whatever it is that they're pursuing and then they wait for somebody to invite them to share their gifts this has been really problematic for me actually really yeah because I've always needed an invitation to do stuff. Okay.

And my parents, or specifically mother, would be like, what are you waiting for? And I'm like, I don't know. Someone needs to give me permission. Yeah. And it's interesting that that is actually part of it because for me I always felt like it must have come down to a lack of self-worth or not thinking I'm good enough. But actually, I think it's more, well, I think it's probably a combination. Yeah, I mean, we can see areas of conditioning that are going to affect us. But it's really that somebody sees something special and unique in you,

and they invite you in to sort of share that. It doesn't mean that we have to sit on our sofa and wait for the golden envelope to come through the door. We can actually create a safe space and a platform for us to share what we do and the thing, that gift that we want to share. And then you'll start noticing when things are in alignment of these invitations coming to you, people starting to recognize you, people wanting to learn more about that thing that you're going to be sharing. that you're going to be sharing. But it's important to kind of not really go out there and put it on everyone as a projector, because sometimes that can kind of not create the best energy with our auras. You know, it can be that traditional thing of like writing to people, say, here's my work, like, have a look, see what you think. And then it's up to them, whether they, you know, you've shared a nugget and you showed up and you could, because how can people find us if we don't give them something to work off and then whether they then invite you in and they've seen you for your gifts

is up to them exactly um and really when the projector isn't feeling recognized and valued and seen for their gifts they can end up feeling quite bitter so like the manifestor feels angry the projector's gonna sense this bitterness i feel this sense of bitterness that they're just not really understood and why don't they kind of get me um but when they're in their flow and they are being recognized and the invitations are coming and people see you and they see the projector then they feel success so success is the yeah the signature theme interesting yeah something that i've struggled with is like when I'm in flow if there is something that comes up as a block or an obstacle I've historically found it very difficult

to maneuver my way around yeah stuck is that connected to this at all you do have something in your chart that's a bit like intolerance for these roadblocks and things really yeah and it's actually in your soul side your unconscious side so yeah I guess it's kind of like what is what is the bigger lesson there like when we step back you know we're confronted by something what is this experience like trying to teach us you know moving away from uh victim or blame consciousness and stepping into like this is life like flowing through me what can I see here you know I think changing the narrative yeah exactly yeah moving out of victimhood was very big for me and there's a bit of shame around saying that but

yeah and that was actually something that was very pivotal through my Saturn return yeah moving out of this energy of blame and victim into yeah things are happening by me and really I'm gonna kind of I'm in control of my destiny here and I can manifest these things that I want to happen to me which is so liberating yeah like there is a sense of freedom with that and I think it's liberating coming out of blame consciousness as well you know 100% like um realizing that there is this much bigger picture and that life is gonna flow through us really that's what human design is about it's giving us this sense of like consciousness and awareness like how awaken and in tune with life can we become how conscious can we become with our lives and these are like the tools that we see. Like, here's you.

What can you do with this? And also with everything that happens in your life, whether, I mean, we see it as bad at the time. The difference is now having the consciousness and the awareness to be like, this is a good thing. Even the bad stuff, you're like, like okay I see what you're doing like teach me yeah rather than why is this happening to me the world is against me I'm a victim because you know from dark there comes light it's part of the tapestry of life it's what makes it full yeah and you are from your chart you are somebody who's kind of here to teach us that like how to live the fullness of life oh tell me more yeah and so well should we should i cover the reflectors

so we've got all of them then we can dive into your chart because i don't want to leave the um leave the precious reflectors yeah they're only one percent of the population um and you you will recognize a reflector because they have all open space in their chart so none of the any energy centers are colored in and they are lunar beings so they're here to kind of move with the rhythm of the of the moon and what that really means is that for them to kind of make any important decision or big decision in life is that they have to wait a full lunar cycle to kind of get clarity on things um you know which comes with real patience because when you know we don't really live in a society where we can allow that exactly yeah but they're very open beings and

they're true chameleons they can reflect back exactly what is going on in society so they're real mirrors for society. And it's really good to know or to have at least one reflector in your life that can kind of test the temperature of what's going on, what's going on with society, with that group of people. And this is really important for them to know because it means the environment is really key for them. So a reflector is not going to be feeling great if they're not in the right environment because they're so open, they will pick up on everything, absorb everything. But when a reflector is not going to be feeling great if they're not in the right environment because they're so open they will pick up on everything absorb everything but when a reflector understands that they are a reflector like there can be a huge sense of relief because with your

design i think is my intuition yeah so you've got a defined what we call spleen, which is the house and the centre of intuition, fears, instincts and survival. So when you see a centre coloured in in the chart, it's energy which is consistent to you. And you have a bit of a you do kagi you'll be picking up potentially on the emotions of other people around you with your defined spleen it makes you somebody who's very um very connected to their intuition and should always trust their intuition in any given moment and use it as almost like your superpower to guide you forward in life coming out of the mind because in human design it's no one's decision making to make just or to take decisions from the mind but tune into what our body's trying to say and it's not given that much value no in i think that's right you know in the way we talk about things today you know for me to just say i get i have this feeling it's not really considered

a justified reason no but it should be in fact like you're saying that it should be my most justified exactly so in in your design um maybe you won't necessarily see it yourself because this sits on your unconscious side you've got quite a lot of leadership energy in your chart so you you have this energy that's called the creative role model, and you're here to really be a channel of inspiration to other people, to empower and to lead other people. And the way that we do that is being individual, being ourselves. This sits in what's called the individual circuitry in human design. So nobody else is going to lead like you lead when you are in your authentic self.

There's a couple of other kind of elements in the design which really suggest that you're on a journey of like really being a voice for self-love in this world. And tuning into this feeling of like when I understand me and when I love me for me, that is going to empower and ripple out, you know, to society. Well, you set an example and then you allow other people the invitation to do the same thing. Yeah. So being in that flow and do you recognize yourself as a leader, would you say? Having leadership. Yes. Good. Yeah. I'm only joking. good yeah I'm only joking no I don't know I think that I've liked the idea without it sort of sounding egotistical

the time when I feel most myself is when or the happiest is when if I get a message on my Instagram saying like I read this or I saw this and this inspired me, like that's when I'm like, okay, I'm on the right path. Yeah, exactly. And I think that a difficulty of stepping out of the public eye is I lost that a little bit. So I think this, like even doing this podcast, I think is a really, it really resonates with me on a very deep level. It really carries like an acoustic quality, this energy. So tuning into the sounds of things, whether something sounds right,

sensing out the environment, the people through sound is really important. It's interesting you said that thing about the voice because actually I was thinking yesterday about the things that have helped with my own struggles with depression. And a big one is that I wasn't speaking my truth I think I've avoided confrontation so I've avoided speaking up yeah a lot of the time

and then that's caused me upset whereas now I just go into things I'm like speaking my truth even in its most vulnerable state has been incredibly empowering yeah for me so it's interesting that you say that it's a lot comes from the throat yeah and I think also with this with the music like it doesn't necessarily mean that I want to be this all singing or dancing pop star because I don't I don't really but it's my story and it's my voice and it's a way I connect to the world. Yeah. I think you touched on something, avoiding confrontation and the truth. This is one of the signposts that we get with Open Emotion Centre in human design.

And you have an Open Emotion Centre. So what this means is that you're going to be potentially picking up on emotions of all those people around you and quite feeling them as though they're your own so within the chart each of the centers has what we call like the not self theme so when we're not in alignment and avoiding concentration and the truth is going to be the one that comes up for you so funny you've had this journey to kind of find your voice again and you know with this sense of leadership and taking us out in your individual transformative direction is finding your voice again it's going to be an individual voice and there will be this acoustic kind of quality to it where people are going to trust in the tone

of your voice and what you're saying is it authentic um so to really be in alignment is so important and everyone has a voice for you in particular so you have what we call the 4-1 profile in human design and this is really quite a rare profile and you find that people are really into psychology human behavior maybe astrology and human design with this in their chart and it's this sense of just wanting to kind of get to the bottom and the truth of things yeah I was saying earlier my flatmate walked in last night and I was just like ogling at the television watching another true crime documentary and she was like you're obsessed and I was like I am and she was like you just are fascinated by humans and their psychology and the way they operate and

I really am I always have been yeah it's just something that's kind of within you and in your design and really like your soul wants you to experience that as well um so the lesson with this is really just to stay individual and connect to your truth and then that will ripple out ripple out as you start sharing the things that you love, which is really what you're doing. With this profile, often people find an authoritative figure or a mentor or somebody that has offered them something or that they believe in and that they can kind of follow as a truth. Of course, the truth is subjective subjective but it's about having this um this curiosity and wanting to kind of dive deeper and see what life is all about and then sharing that with the collective um so yeah it's no surprise to me that you've kind of found found your way to do this as well

well I think you know it's been a tricky journey because it takes a you know like we mentioned earlier that I need the invitation and I think for me a huge thing is being is finding the people around me that support me yeah the tribe really finds the projector when they're in their flow and in their design um and they're really, they're going to have kind of like a message or a way to guide the community through being in their design. It's a lot of pressure. But for you, it's really important just to trust those instinctive hits that you get as to driving you forward in any given moment to knowing whether something's right. Like who in the tribe we trust and who, know things don't feel right with um because that's you know your overall decision making so that will move you forward in any given moment just to trust

trust in that intuition that you have also to you can apply that of course to relationships and and friendships or anything really because yeah there's someone you're communicating with someone like say you're dating at the early stages and it just doesn't feel right like energetically that's enough having the courage as well to just say no this doesn't feel right to me and no I think I know that there's something more out there and this is a real good tip for generators because they're here to respond to life so they're going to be plateaus and moments where life isn't sending them something to respond to and they might feel a bit stuck but patience and trust that something is coming their way and

something you know opening up space to receive something is really important so yeah you have to create the space for that thing to come in yeah also tests like if a relation you want to call in a relationship let's say you want to call in a career and something will come along that's like kind of what you want but not quite yeah having the courage and confidence to be like no is really tough and it's not to say that if you don't everything's gonna fall apart yeah but those are really like important moments to look out for I think this is about your own self-worth really isn't it and and up leveling that yeah I think that's so right I had this experience a lot because I was sharing before I used to be a lawyer and to make the transition into what I do now, I actually, you know, in the recent months I got sent and headhunted really for a job,

which in a previous time would have been an ideal role for me and would have ticked all of the boxes. And I was, you know, slowly transitioning into doing human design full time. I was, you know, slowly transitioning into doing human design full time. And I felt like this was really the test as to whether or not I was going to go back and go to the interview and step back into that lower self-worth state where I felt like, you know, I had the sense of security of being in the full time world and having that job that like made me feel good because society viewed it as a good thing to do. And honestly, it took me right up until like the night before the interview, which I had said yes to that I was like, actually, no, this is a test and I'm going to pass this one. I'm going to step into my work and really know that I'm in alignment in doing the thing that I want to do because I

knew I wasn't fulfilled before. So it's like having that trust yeah and now things have like snowballed in ways that I couldn't have even imagined because I I passed the test you know so it's like I want to send courage out to people who are maybe feeling that and feeling the anxiety and the vulnerability of sticking and wanting to move and change but also feeling safe and secure in that space of that conflict is hard it's very hard um and it takes courage and bravery you know but you will be rewarded absolutely i think that's really key so yeah just coming a little bit back to your design in your design there is um maybe a propensity with the open sacral center to not know when enough is enough so having an awareness of and i think we kind of get caught up in this

at least i did um i have this open in my chart too like going going going going because we have the defined heart and the consistent willpower and motivation to keep us moving forward um and knowing when we're taking on other people's energy as well so as a projector I found when I was in an office environment it was good for me to kind of sit at the back of the room so wasn't absorbing everyone else's life force and taking it on as my own to keep going going going so this is often connected to our desires as well like not knowing when enough um like when food is enough when alcohol is enough um really yeah so definitely have that yeah because i mean i i don't drink anymore because i would not know on enough

and like yeah food is something when sometimes i'm like oh you didn't you didn't need to eat for two tonight, did you? Well, actually, in food, our chart goes into our digestion profile. And for you, Kagi, you have what's called consecutive appetite. So the key is it's not one of the more modern ones. And actually, we can really post our digestion will be in its optimum when we're just eating one thing after the other. So imagine you've got a roast and you kind of have the carrots and then the peas, like one thing after the other, rather than all things together to give our digestion and our body time

to like process the information that's coming in. That's how I should eat. That's what's really your design to kind of, your optimum digestion would be. It's a shame I eat everything at the same time. I mean, it's called the human design experiment. So you can just experiment and see how it feels. Because actually, to be honest, when I've eaten like that, I have actually felt my best. Really?

Yeah. I mean, it's one to explore with. So I have the silent eater profile. And this is all about uh really eating in low sound environments so not your mouth closed not really like going out to restaurants so much and um or having that noisy environment because it's more difficult for our digestion to uh take that on as well as the food so really consciously connecting with the food which we're all supposed to do anyway yeah um so yeah there's a lot i mean there's lots that we can take out um

from the chart you have what we call split definition and this is all about um how we process and how we kind of are in relationships too so energetically kind of correct for you maybe you're going to feel that missing piece if you're not in a relationship so it works well for you to be in relationships like somebody's going to be that puzzle piece that enters in and makes you feel whole and processes whole as well um and there's different definition types in the chart um but does that resonate yeah yeah a lot like I am a relationship person but then that being said I'm really I wouldn't say enjoying not being what in one because it's such it's such a beautiful thing to be in love but I'm feel very content yeah in my life at the moment because I get

a lot from what we seek in a romantic partner from my friends. Yeah, having that circle of people that kind of are there for you, I think is really important. So if anyone is interested in having their human design read, how can they get in contact with you? Yeah, so I have a website, which is www.liveyourdesign.co.uk. And I'm on Instagram as at liveyourdesign as well so played with the words there and so you can just book on through my website I do one-to-one readings and I've mostly over video call and I have an offering which is called a soul print as well so if you don't fancy a one-to-one reading it's like a comprehensive digital guide about your design goes deep into what your unique

gifts and skills are and how you operate energetically and touches on purpose and digestion so yeah there's a couple of different options yeah so I think if anyone's feeling a little bit off path this is a great thing to go and do just to kind of see, you know, find out what your purpose is a little bit more. Yeah, if you're like spiritually curious or, I mean, how I was, I was lost for purpose. So, yeah, this was my medicine. So I feel like I want to be able to help other people

who are kind of in that space as well. I love it. It's such a powerful thing thank you so much for talking with me thanks for having me so I hope you enjoyed today's episode I absolutely loved recording it because I love finding out about new things and human design is such a fascinating thing for me and it's still relatively new so I was learning just as much as you guys and but I really am enjoying delving more into it because I do think what we touched on in the episode is that as a society and culture we we

have this one-size-fits-all go go go I don't have time for anything and that's never resonated with me and I've always felt a bit guilty about that so having more of an understanding of what my design is I know that it's really important for me to slow down and that that's okay so I would love it if you guys went and found out what your design was and you can contact Liv at liveyourdesign on Instagram and me at kaggy's world so if you have any thoughts, please feel free to get in contact. And thanks again for listening.

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