Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Yes Virginia, There Are More Medical Questions
Episode Date: December 1, 2019We're marking our 300th episode (OK, it's our 301st) by answering all of your pressing medical questions. Can you really poke your brain through your nose? Where do boob crumbs come from? Listen for t...hat and so much more! Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers
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Hello everybody and welcome to Saw Bones, a metal tour of Miss Guy to Medicine.
I'm your co-host Justin McAroy.
And I'm Sydney McAroy.
We just recently passed a milestone sin and this was intended to mark that milestone
this particular episode.
That's true.
Celebration of sawbounds.
Yes, it's a week late.
It's a week late.
But it's a celebration nonetheless.
300 episodes. That's right. That's a long time, Sid. I know. I make this show for a grip.
It's scary because we've done this many episodes and there's, you know, about the
failings of medical science throughout history. And there's, I have no shortage of
wants to still not fix. No, fix the whole thing. No, I thought in 200 episodes
We could fix the whole thing certainly 300 as an outlier
But like we really have done a lot of mess ups and we just keep
Doing them
So what we're gonna do this week is a question and answer episode
I'm going to ask your questions to Sydney and
She will answer them as best she can. And
maybe I'll be able to help too with my own sort of insights.
Yeah, sure. Here's her first question is this. So I have no idea if this is weird or why
it happens. I'm a mother of two children. I breastfed both of them, but they're old enough
now that happened several years ago. Sometimes in the shower, I notice yellowish deposits of build-up
in my nipples. I call them boob crumbs, and sometimes try to get them out. Well, that's, um,
does every person with breast deal with this, am I, is it only after breastfeeding? Am I just super, super gross? And that's from Ronnie.
Ronnie, I wanted, I'm so glad you asked this question,
and I wanted to address it because it occurred to me
that this is one of those things that I have found,
and I mean, this can be true of all bodies,
that there's stuff that they don't tell you about
that will happen to you throughout your life.
Some of it is state dependent. It might be because you're in
limbo.
Ohio and bad happens.
And I don't.
I listen.
Don't get me started on Ohio right now.
But it's just the driving folks.
Come on.
Come on.
Come out of West Virginia and drive like that.
Come on.
Well, and their, their laws, the way they legislate.
Yeah, but like the bodies of people with uteruses.
And the drugs that.
And the drugs that.
Anyway, this is one of those things that they don't warn you about,
but that is definitely true and common,
and you are not alone, you're not gross in any way.
So there are something that can form,
there are these things that form around the aereola
of the breasts, we call them Montgomery tubercles.
And there are just these, usually these little like brownish
or kind of reddish bumps around the aereola.
And they're actually one of the first changes
that occur in a body when you become pregnant.
So you can look for those and go, hey, I didn't
always pregnant. Well, and they can pop up. There are other associations for the most part.
These are something that happen when you're pregnant. And they usually go away, but of
course, breastfeeding, it has to do with hormonal changes so breastfeeding can continue them
They can still be there and these little tubercles can become clogged
They're really just sort of like oil glands like like they they secrete like oily substances and they can they're helping to like
Keep everything soft and keep everything from getting cracked during breastfeeding and all that and
That you know, they're just they're supposed to be there.
They're normal.
It's totally normal.
But they can become clogged with some of that waxy oily substance.
And then you can, if you try, you can squeeze out of them a little, looks like a little plug
of something yellow or white.
And it's just like, it's not infection.
I mean, I'm not going to say it's not impossible that I mean, I'm not gonna say it's not impossible
that somebody is, I mean, these can get infected,
but like this can happen without an infection.
And it, I guess it does kind of look like a little crumb.
Huh, okay, well.
I have, I share this with you as someone
who is still breastfeeding.
Yes, this is normal, totally happens.
Best advice though is actually don't
try to squeeze them or pick at them or get anything out of them. They're fine, they're
normal, there's nothing wrong with them. And if you pick at them, you do run the risk
of then introducing a infection. Exactly. But you're not gross. This is normal.
Is there really a nerve that runs straight from your feet to your throat so that if you walk
on cold tile, you'll get sick. And if you drink cold or icy beverages, you will get sick.
And that's from America.
From America, yes.
I thought this was an interesting question because there were actually several that were
along these same lines.
This is a folklore thing I've not heard this before.
Yeah, well.
We're like, we're a hat to keep your body, your entire body warm because you lose heat
through your head.
This is, I think this is more rooted,
my guess would be,
because this was not the only question
along these lines that I received,
kind of about nerves connecting from your feet
to different places in your body.
And I-
It's the whole basis of reflexology.
Well, that's what I wonder,
if that's not where some of this stuff comes from,
is from the belief that everything in your body
connects to a point on your foot,
and that by doing things to your foot, you can fix various everything in your body connects to a point on your foot and that by
doing things to your foot, you can fix various illnesses throughout your body. This is not so.
It'd be nice, it'd be very convenient, but it's not true. But there is, that's not, I think it's
interesting because it kind of reflects, it's cool to talk about how nerves work and how and the things
they can do. There are nerves that move things.
There are nerves that help you feel things.
There are nerves that control your heartbeat.
So nerves do all different sorts of things.
They send messages, all different directions
in your body to help control everything we do.
But illness does not travel along them in this way.
It's not like you could, first of all,
being cold doesn't make you sick.
That's a common myth.
Go outside with wet hair, get cold, whatever,
that you'll get sick.
No, being cold does not make you sick.
And you can't have like an illness,
travel along a nerve path that way.
Like you step in a puddle.
They just send signals, right?
Mm-hmm.
They send signals.
So it is neat.
There are cool nerves that can do a lot of different things.
Like I like to mention the Vegas nerve,
which is a big nerve that runs
from your Madula Oblongata,
part of your brain stem.
And it goes all the way down to innovate
everything from your speech to your heartbeat,
to sweating.
It has nerve endings that even reach your colon.
So like it is a big nerve that does a bunch different cool stuff.
Not your feet, but still nerves are cool and interesting,
but they do not do that.
My mom was a nurse wound ostomy, hospice.
What's ostomy?
So, if you have like, have you heard of a colostomy?
This is not the question. That would be wild if the question was,
what is my mom do?
Have you heard of like a colostomy bag
that someone might have?
So an ostomy would be like an opening,
especially unintentionally made opening somewhere
in the abdominal wall to allow, you know,
stool contents to exit that way as opposed to the rectum.
So like the care of those sorts of openings.
An ostomy is an opening like that.
It's not always in the colon.
That's why it's a colonostomy.
There are ealy ostomies.
But the care for those kinds of openings,
ostomy care.
Anyway, Julie, who asked this question,
Julie's mom was a nurse,
and she used to tell me in my sister,
nose bacteria is super potent.
And if you pick your nose and then touch, say, your eyes
or an open cut, you might get a really bad infection.
I think this is-
Now there's not a question here from Julie,
so I assume it's like, call my mom on her bullcrap.
Yeah, there was more to the email.
I was kind of, I cut it down, but that was basically
that is this true, or was my mom just trying to get us
not to pick our nose?
Narcana, my mom basically.
I assume that your mom is probably referencing
MRSA MRSA, which is short for methamethicillin resistance,
staphlococcus aureus, which is a strain of staff bacteria
that is very resistant to a lot of antibiotics.
And so it is more dangerous in the sense
that it's harder to treat, not necessarily in any other.
We always call it like a super bug.
It doesn't have like super powers.
It's just super.
Well, it's not even about a ball, that's a sort of power.
No, it's vulnerable.
There are things we can still use.
I said, nine.
But Marissa tends to colonize your nose.
MRSA tends, if you carry it,
you carry it around inside your nostrils.
So while that doesn't necessarily make that act
like picking your nose and rubbing it in your eye
necessarily more dangerous than like,
I don't know, putting your finger in your butt
and rubbing it in your eye, which also...
Would be wild.
Well, would also introduce bacteria that you don't want in your eye, which also. Would be wild. Well, it would also introduce bacteria
that you don't want in your eye.
I wonder, I mean, it is, I guess it would be considered
an especially potent bacteria.
So like your moms are right.
If you have a mercer in your nose,
you don't want that getting into cuts
or any kind of holes or openings anywhere else in your body.
But I would say generally speaking,
like try to wash your hands, and especially after you
stuck them in any orifice, it's a general with mouth to mouth, our mouths are filthy.
This is going to be an ironic intro in this next question, considering what you just said.
Hello, my comforting podcasting parental figures. I have a somewhat medical question. I'm 23,
and I've been scared of doctors for a long time.
I've been in the urgent care a few times in college,
but outside of that, I haven't got to check up since I was 17.
I recently made appointment with my new primary care doctor
and I have about a month till my appointment.
My question is, what do I even do during this appointment?
Share every health concern I've had for six years?
Teller, I just want to check up.
I've never had to navigate being in a doctor's office
without a parent and I'm nervous that I won't say the right things.
Do you have any guidance?
That's from Maria.
I think that's an excellent question
because you are so not alone with this fear.
I see this very commonly.
I try to, when I see patients who are in there
like adolescent or teenage years,
always have the opportunity, if everybody is okay with it,
to have the parent or guardian step out of the room.
In part, we always say that that's so that if there's something private that you want
to discuss, we can do it.
But it's also to start practicing that interaction of you and your doctor without anybody else
present.
I think it's just useful for that.
Oftentimes, we won't have anything private, so to speak, to discuss.
It's really just...
You just stand in silence for three minutes.
No, I just ask, you know, is there anything else you want to talk about?
You know, I'm always here.
And then if they don't have any questions, I usually will take this opportunity to kind
of address this exact issue.
Eventually, you go to the doctor alone, or you can.
I don't.
I said, no, it always comes with me.
So I have no experience in this category.
But when you do, it can be very intimidating to know,
like, what are the rules?
Here is the main point to take home
is that your doctor is there to help you.
And there is no rule as to what you
are supposed to say or ask or do. I have
patients who come in who have millions of questions and concerns and lists of things that they
want to talk about from the last six years maybe. And then I have other patients who come
in and are really more like, I don't know, I'm supposed to go to a doctor. So I came,
you tell me. And that's fine too. We are trained to handle all these situations we should be
and we should be good at helping you have the doctor's appointment you need no matter what you
come in prepared to do or say. I would say for an initial check up with a primary care doctor
as a primary care doctor, my goal is to get a handle on one. If you do have an urgent issue right now that you need a dress, well, that's not really
the point of a checkup.
Of course, I want to address that.
I mean, it's urgent.
You need to take care of it.
So if you do have something that needs a dress right now, I would say that right at the
top.
If you don't, they're going to ask you a bajillion questions.
They're going to want to know all about your history.
They're going to want to know all about your family history, all about your behaviors,
and your habits, your worries, where you are in life, what you're doing, what your goals are.
And then they're probably going to want to do at least a bit of a physical exam,
like a general checkup kind of thing, just the major stuff that we check.
And then they're also going to want to address some like preventive health things.
You're this age because of this in your family history or your, you know, your gender.
There are different things we might want to suggest tests you might want or vaccines you
might need or whatever.
So I would say bringing in a list of like six years of concerns, you probably can't address
all that in one visit.
Nor would you want to.
Nobody wants to be at the doctor's office
for several hours.
That doesn't sound fun.
So I would prioritize the stuff that's most pressing.
I would make sure your doctor's gonna wanna talk
about preventive health stuff and that's so important.
So you wanna make sure there's time for that.
And then for you, these other concerns, I would say,
I have some other things I would like to talk about.
If your doctor has more time, if the visit's not over great,
if not, they may say, hey,
can we schedule a follow-up appointment to discuss some more of these things in more depth?
And so we can follow up on some of the things we've addressed this time.
I think I've always had a suspicion in the back of my head, or at least I did when I was
younger, I don't think as much anymore, but this idea that, and probably this is too much
house and medical TV in general, but this idea that I would say one weird thing,
like one weird symptom in the doctor would like turn on their heels
and be like, what did you say?
Say it again, I just cracked this whole thing wide open.
That is, I'm not gonna say that is absolutely never true
that there isn't something in a case
that could be like the one piece of information
that could be helpful,
but the vast, vast majority of the time,
it's about putting the picture of you as an individual human altogether
and trying to help you attain the best quality of life you possibly can.
And that is not a one piece of information puzzle.
That's a whole human that we're working together to help you be your best
you. And you know, it's going to take more than one visit to get there. So I'd prioritize
the really important to you right now stuff. And then let your doctor take care of the
stuff they're going to want to tell you is important, which is like your vaccines.
I want to have kids in the future, but I'm worried about fertility. I only get my period
three to four times a year. This has been the case since I got my period first. First got my period. I definitely don't want
kids right now, but I'm wondering, should I see a doctor sooner rather than later? Should I be
concerned about this? I'm 21 if that helps Sarah. They then. So this is a good question, and I wanted
to address it briefly because we've talked about this somewhat on the show before and I got a lot of tweets
Following it up because there was some concern that I'd left out some of the information and I think that's fair
I would say Sarah you should
Go and discuss this with a physician and I don't say that to scare you. I'm not saying that there may be an absolutely nothing
abnormal, but I'm not saying there may be absolutely nothing abnormal. But most people who have periods have them more
than three or four times a year.
That is a very low frequency outside the range
of what we think is the normal range.
And so usually when we hear that, we say,
hey, yeah, why don't you make an appointment
with your doctor discuss it?
They can ask you some more questions to find out
if there's anything else going on.
If there's any other, you know,
is it related to some other thing that you don't know about?
Some other diagnosis that hasn't been found yet.
And then at the same time, 21 is also the age
that we recommend you go if you do a PAPA cervix
that you go and have your first exam PAPSmear done.
So if you've never had that done before,
this would be a good time to do it.
But yes, it may be, I don't say this to scare you,
it may be that everything is absolutely fine,
but yes, you should go if you are not having periods
anymore frequently than that,
you should go see a doctor and talk to him about it.
Also, we're a podcast.
So our advice is almost always going to be,
yes, you should go see a doctor. Yes, go're a podcast. So our advice is almost always going to be, yes,
you should go see your doctor.
So I recently had a severe allergic reaction
to a medication I was on and I had difficulty breathing.
I waited through multiple classes in school
before going to the emergency room
where they had to administer epinephrine
to help the reaction.
How bad an idea was it to wait till the end of the school day
before I went to the hospital.
I didn't have epipans, so it wasn't like there was anything I could do before I got there
Best clueless in Cambridge
Can I try? I thought you might be able to answer this?
Yes, it was bad
You should definitely listen. I don't know a lot about the human body folks
But I know of the important things that it does. Breathing is way up there.
I thought you might be able to feel this one, but I just wanted to re-emphasize.
And I bet you know this.
I bet you know this deep in your heart already, Casey.
You should have gone straight to the hospital.
Yes.
An anaphylactic reaction can absolutely and often is life threatening.
You should immediately seek medical attention.
No, you're right.
You didn't have an empty pen, so you couldn't have fixed it, but that was even more reason why you should immediately seek medical attention. No, you're right. You didn't have an Epipen, so you couldn't have fixed it,
but that was even more reason why you should have left class.
Right.
You got an Epipen, then you just chill on it.
I don't know.
No, still go to the doctor, use the Epipen,
and then go afterwards, because that's not always the end all
of that whole problem.
Anyway, yes, if you're having difficulty breathing,
please go see a doctor.
You do need immediate medical attention
because things can go very bad, very fast.
You can go into shock, and then you can die.
Yeah, so.
And that's one less listener for us.
So please, think about that.
Please, next time you have trouble breathing,
please immediately go to a hospital.
I'm a textile designer and recently,
vendors have been bringing me textiles treated with
shellfish, kighton or kaitazan. The claim around it is that shellfish kighton is a natural
anti odor and antibacterial material. A brief search shows it sometimes uses
in bandages or directly applied a wound to encourage healing. Is this a real thing?
If yes, how does it work? Alex.
This was a cool question,
because I'd never heard of this stuff.
This was news to me.
Still me in.
So yes, kaitasan is a material that is made
from some sort of crustacean shell,
the kaitan that is in there.
And it is treated with something alkaline,
so something like sodium hydroxide.
And basically the material that results,
there have been, it is used in multiple industries.
So a lot of this goes well outside my medical expertise
to use in other things that I have nothing to do with.
But the thought is that it can be used to,
in the lab, it showed some antifungal properties
to inhibit the growth of certain other kinds
of bacteria and stuff.
And that also, it helps stimulate,
like, like an agriculture,
it can help plants defend themselves against fungal
and other kinds of invaders.
So it's been used in agriculture. It's used in wine making in some places.
Again, it can help prevent spoilage and things.
And because of all this, there was some interest in it helping with medical applications.
And you can find this supplement, by the way, as I was googling about it, I ran into
like completely unspricing.
Yes, you can buy the kightened capsules
and things like that.
It has been investigated for wound healing
and to stop bleeding, which is why it would be used
in a bandage, that makes sense, right?
If you could like impregnate the bandage with it.
Sure.
And then it would help.
Unfortunately, the studies on that so far
have not really shown a lot.
It hasn't necessarily helped a whole bunch with wound healing or preventing scar formation
or stopping bleeding.
There was some thought that it somehow attracted more of like your own clotting factors and
platelets and things to the wound, and that's how it did that.
But again, it's not, the research hasn't really borne out any of
these things. It has been widely applied as sort of a cure all for things like, for everything from
weight loss to high cholesterol, to high blood pressure, to crones, kidney disease, gum disease.
I guess there are some people who like put it on their
gums to like prevent cavities or to prevent gum disease, all kinds of different things.
None of these things have ever been shown to be true from research.
There are small studies, but so far I think as a medical, it's medical applications are
right now extremely limited.
And perhaps someday we will find our non-existent, but there's just no studies to say.
I would not, if you find this in your pharmacy, which you can, to take, it will be advertised
to you as a weight loss aid.
And there are definitely studies that have shown it doesn't do that, because there's always
a lot of money to be made in that realm.
And so you'll find studies there, and it doesn't do that because there's always a lot of money to be made in that realm. And so you'll find studies there and it doesn't help with that at all.
But I would not recommend this as something you need to add to your daily regimen.
You're ready for your next question, sister.
I will be ready in just a moment, Justin. But first, let's go to the building department.
Let's go.
department. Let's go. Okay, next question. Are you ready? I'm ready. Hit me. When I was younger, I would get a fever and my mom would tell me that I could not have anything with dairy. Does the
body rack badly to dairy when it has a fever? Or was this just my mom not wanting me to
take me myself chocolate milk? Why was I sick? That's from Travis. This is a common myth I have found.
Some research led me to believe that your mom is not the only mom
or dad or parent or anybody out there who's saying,
hey, you can't have dairy when you have a fever.
The thought was that it would curdle in your stomach
and make you sick.
Okay.
I never heard that one, but I don't know if you ever heard this.
My mom used to tell me not to have dairy when I had a cold because it would make more
mucus.
Yes, that feels right.
It feels true in your body.
Neither of those things are true.
Oh, man.
I mean, if you want to drink milk, when you have a fever, when you have a cold, milk is
something you typically enjoy.
Hey, as a non-medical person, can I just say,
the dough is great.
If you're vomiting a lot.
I make some, that worsen.
Well, I would just focus on things like water
or some electrolyte containing substance.
But no, there is no danger to dare.
I always wonder if these things don't have their roots.
And when we talk about the four humors
and humoral systems of medicine, where you used
to eat and drink certain things or avoid certain things in order to balance your humors,
you got to wonder if stuff like this isn't our last remnants of those kinds of ideas.
But no, you can drink that milk when you got a fever.
I got a paper cut last night while I was filling out a D&D character sheet. Nerd.
Got him.
And it hurt like heck.
My question is, why do paper cuts hurt so dang much?
I've had bigger deeper cuts from kitchen implements and a couple of accidents over the years,
but nothing is quite so squizzily agonizing as a tiny sliver of a paper cut.
Hope this email finds you well.
Love the show.
That's from Gives and Scotland. I thought I wanted to answer this question for two reasons. One, it is a good question. And two,
I like the use of exquisitely agonite because you made fun of me when I said that a pain was
exquisite. I know. Like your aliou card from Symphony the Night. But it is used. It is not just me,
me and Gives. We both use it.
I would, you know, I don't, I was thinking about this
because I would say this is true.
I have, I have cut myself with knives
and I've gotten paper cuts
and I do feel like paper cuts are a special kind of pain.
Why?
Part of it I would say is location.
I would say that's a big, that's a big thing.
Most paper cuts we tend to get on our fingers, right?
And your fingertips have, or especially sensitive. I would say that's a big thing. Most paper cuts, we tend to get on our fingers, right?
And your fingertips have, are especially sensitive.
You know, we have different densities of sensory nerves
and different parts of our body.
And our fingertips in particular need to have
a lot of good sensory function,
because they do all of our stuff for us.
You don't need to have as fine sensory perception
in like your elbow as you do in your fingertips.
So I would say a big part of his just location,
we tend to get paper cuts on our fingertips
and that is a very sensitive spot.
So of course it's gonna hurt a lot more.
You're actually using him a lot.
You're like, cut your own.
It's a very active part of your body
that's touching a lot of different stuff
and interact with a lot of different stuff.
So I imagine it's like very front of mind as a result.
I thought this was an interesting way to also bring up the little tip that I always tell
people if you have to ever do stick your fingers with like if you have to do glucose checks
for diabetes or anything like that or any it came up just and when you did the blood test
for ever really well.
I always recommend to try to use kind of the edge,
the sideier fingertip as opposed to the very tip tip of your finger.
Yeah, if you're going to get a paper cut, that's supposed to get it.
I'm so troubled that the answer to this question is not just a no.
I can't make his retails of what you've written here,
but you didn't write no.
If I stick my finger too far up my nose,
could I actually touch my brain,
or is that just a myth, Ryan?
First of all, Ryan, please do not attempt this,
or anyone else, not just Ryan,
this is for all listeners, please don't try this.
You can't, okay, you can't just stick your finger
if you're nose and touch your brain.
No, I want to add some color, okay, thank you.
No, but I did want to add some color
because whenever I hear something like this,
I try to think, well, where did that idea come from?
Okay.
And above your nasal passages,
the part of your skull that's at the top there
that like above that gets to the brain part,
you know, like inside the skull part,
there's the brain part that you don't want to touch.
There is- You can't be clear enough about that, is, there is a bone, the ethmoid bone, and within the ethmoid bone,
there is this area called the crib reform plate. And it is like, if you look at it, you can
Google this. It's a piece of bone that has a bunch of little like perforations in it.
Teeny, teeny, like you can't stick a finger through them perforations. Teeny, teeny, because they allow for the passage of nerves. Okay. Okay. But there is that, there is a pathway.
Your finger could not fit through it. But there is a connection between the top of the inside
of your nose and your brain, teeny, teeny little perforations in that crib reform plate
through which nerves has, but that is why if you get a certain kind of skull fracture and like you damage that area,
you can have cerebral spinal fluid leak from your nose, which is bad.
And like if that happens, you immediately need to go seek medical attention.
Yeah.
Don't finish your classes first.
So that is probably where that comes from.
But no, you could not just jam your finger up there and touch brain.
The recommendation for length of time between pregnancies is at least one year.
I've also seen 18 months for pregnancies that end in a C section.
What's the medical reasoning behind these weight times?
And that's from Annie.
From Annie.
The reason this is a good question, the reason is they've just done some more studies on
this actually last year.
Some new reports came out because we always used to say 18 months or greater.
More recently, we've said 12 months is probably sufficient.
What we find is that if you wait less than 12 months between pregnancies, we see a higher
rate of things like premature labor, higher rate of things like problems with the pregnant person
as well as the baby.
How much higher incidence of having two babies at once is a huge issue, I think.
That would be mildly mean.
That was not in the study, but yes.
Yes, if Dr. Justin is in the study.
Mortality goes up for both the pregnant person and the baby if you wait less than 12 months
between pregnancy.
Why is this the case?
It's interesting.
We're still not 100% certain of all the reasons why.
Part of it kind of feels like it makes sense.
Pregnancy is an incredibly taxing state on the human body and you need a lot of time
to recover from it.
Having recovered from two, I can tell you, I do, I did not feel physically
ready. After less than a year, certainly, after more than a year. But you,
you need time for your body to recover and heal from everything that it's been
through. And then there's also some thoughts that maybe it has something to do
with stores of things like iron and folate are very depleted by pregnancy and it takes your body quite a while to rebuild
those kinds of stores.
But the current recommendation is that at least 12 months between pregnancy and that's
why it's really for safety.
There's always that, is it doctors overreaching?
No, it's for safety of the pregnant person and safety of the baby.
Huh.
I have a bump on my head and my family thought
it might be skin cancer.
So when I went for my yearly checkup,
I had my physician, I asked my physician about it.
He looked over for a couple of seconds
and without doing any tests, he said,
it was fine.
How could a doctor tell if a little module on my forehead
his cancers are not just by looking at it?
There are two questions here, by the way.
Okay, this is a double.
Yeah. Let me take the first one first. way. Okay, this is a double? Yeah.
Let me take the first one for you.
Okay, this is from Joe.
And then we'll get to Joe's second.
Joe's second, right up a funny thing that I'm talking about.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I thought this was important to address
because we are guilty in the medical profession
of not always showing our work.
If it's, especially if it's something that we know immediately,
oh, it's this, it's fine, whatever.
And we want to move on to what we think
is the more important or pressing issue,
which isn't necessarily what was the more important
or pressing issue to you, which is always part of that,
that's that art of medicine,
where you should be able to make sure you're both
on the same page as to your priorities.
There are a lot of different features. We learn all of this in school of things that are benign
and things that maybe aren't benign and things that definitely are dangerous or not benign.
And very often, it's a clinical exam. If we biopsy'd every bump, we would all be getting biopsies constantly, right?
Because we're all going to get little weird bumps on our skin from time to time.
So there are a number of features that we look at, and I could get it.
It would depend on exactly what it looked like for me to tell you why.
But a lot of the time, there are just little growths of like
fibers tissue or fatty tissue or things that we can tell just from looking and touching.
It's not dangerous.
What exactly is it?
Well, it's probably this.
I wouldn't know unless I biopsied it, but it would be unnecessary because I can tell you it's not.
We'll keep an eye on it.
If you see any of these changes and feel free to always ask that.
Okay.
Well, why didn't you think it was a problem and what would tell you it was a problem?
Because then you can, I don't think you're the doctor. Well, no, then you can look at it too. It's always good change over time is always one of the features that we look at so
That's probably it's always a good idea for us to explain our rationale
It helps give people better autonomy better agency over their own bodies
But never be afraid to ask that question
I can't hear just just that the question I occasionally see a little funny and wake up with one of my arms totally dead because I presume I slept on a nerve wrong. I shake it off after a few minutes,
it's fine again, but I'm apparently sleeping on a punch nerve for upwards of eight,
pinch nerve, sorry, for upwards of eight hours. Would this cause permanent harm,
or is it just something that happens sometimes?
So I like this question because it brought up one of the things I remember from medical school
learning and and thinking was very funny, which is Saturday night palsy. It's also been referred
to as honeymoon palsy. So we all know that you can accidentally compress a nerve when you're
sitting in a certain position or lying in a certain position and
Something will fall asleep, right? We've all had the feeling of our arm falling asleep or our hand falling asleep
our foot or whatever and that's all it is you were just you were compressing a nerve
Something in your positioning and when you relieve pressure on that nerve
It will the feeling will come back and you get all that pins and needles and nobody likes that but it but it resolves pretty quickly
If you are to hold that position for many, many, many hours, it doesn't resolve right away.
It will go away.
You will get your sensation back and your function back in that arm or leg or whatever, but it
can take a lot longer.
And the thing we were taught in medical school is a radio neuropathy.
So compressing the radio nerve, which is a nerve in your arm.
And all these nerves pass through your armpit in this big bundle called the brachial plexus,
a bunch of nerves go through there.
So what they taught us is like the classic is somebody goes out and drinks a whole bunch
of alcohol.
And then passes out over the back of a chair, like with their arm hanging over the chair,
with their armpit right on the back.
And it compresses the radio nerve.
And then the next morning you wake up
and you can't move your arm.
And it's really, it's the prolonged compression.
So that's why they use the example of somebody
who maybe has been drinking too much
is that perhaps they then pass out and sleep a lot longer
than they would have otherwise.
But these do go away, but it is interesting because you know, I have seen cases where it
took several weeks for it to resolve.
Holy crap.
So, is it?
But not serious damage.
No, no.
All the damage went away and the arm was perfectly functional, but it sucks while it's
resolving.
Here's one from Mike, our last question of the episode.
Being a new parent, as far as I am right now,
can be crazy stressful and scary.
One of my biggest fears so far has been around vaccines.
Everyone's favorite topic.
The first big set of corn and CDC occurs at two months.
Why is it that long of a weight?
Are vaccines unquestionably the most
life saving you mentioned ever created
on this virus and bacteria filled planet? Why do we not long of a weight? Are vaccines unquestionably the most life saving you mentioned ever created on this virus
bacteria filled planet?
Why do we not vaccinate at birth?
And that's from Mike.
Okay, do I have my theory?
And you can tell me how right or wrong I am.
Okay.
My theory is that at a very young age,
enough of the mother's blood and antibodies
is still in the baby that it's okay.
That's my theory.
That's, that is partially right.
That is part, you are partially right.
I'm partially proud.
That is good.
Yes.
Part, so this is a great question.
I love to talk about vaccines anytime we get the opportunity.
The reason that we have our vaccine scheduled the way we do, the reason that we have certain vaccines at certain ages, is because of one, that is when we are likely to encounter, or
before I should say we are likely to encounter those diseases, right, because we want to
get vaccinated before the age when most people would get it.
So it doesn't, it doesn't do any good to vaccinate you for diptheria when you're 20 because diptheria
was historically a problem, much more common in children.
So we want to get the diptheria vaccination in there early.
But the other thing is we have to make sure that your body is going to generate an immune
response.
And so a lot of vaccines are the reason we get them at that age is because we know that's
the earliest our body is going to
generate the appropriate immune response to the vaccine. Otherwise, it's useless, right? If you
gave somebody a vaccine and their body wasn't able to create the antibodies that they need to,
then it didn't do anything. This is also why boosters exist, because we found that you can create
some of an antibody response, but you need those extra shots to continue
your antibody creation and formation so that you are fully protected against the disease.
So that's that's part of why we wait till two months is because we want to make sure that that's the earliest
We know that your body's going to generate an immune response. We do feel that there is some protection
We know there is some protection that has passed along
From the pregnant person to the newborn. So there are antibodies that exist.
And that's good. And also that's part of why the vaccines may be aren't as effective,
because if you did get antibodies and those antibodies start attacking something like
a measles vaccine, for instance, if we gave you a measles vaccine at birth, then it wouldn't work.
You wouldn't get the immune response.
And those antibodies that you get
from the person who carried you, they go away.
They're just short lived.
They're not there forever.
So you need those vaccines.
We know that this is the time where they are that combination
of most effective and earliest we can get it to you
before you will be exposed likely be exposed.
And that's why we can't give them all at birth. It'd be great if we could. It'd be great if
they would all work right at birth. We would do that. But they're all scheduled to be the earliest
possible time that they're going to work and protect you. And that is also why it is so important
that you stick to that vaccine schedule. I always see questions about alternate vaccine schedules.
And the thing is, if you space out vaccines,
if you get them later, if you try to get fewer at a time,
where there's no evidence that any of that matters
or is important or should be done.
I mean, you don't need to do any of that.
But if you do, you really run the risk
of not getting the immune response in time
for you to be exposed to that.
And we have measles outbreaks.
So I applaud you for wanting to get the vaccines earlier.
I'd be right there with you.
If we could have gotten them all at birth, I would have taken both our kids in and gotten
them all back.
We got the whole bunch of them in the delivery room.
But no, no, trust, just stick with the vaccine
schedule from the CDC and you you cannot go wrong and get your flu shots. Yeah. There is
no too late to get a flu shot. That's right. Folks, thank you so much for listening to
our episode. Thank you for sticking by us for 300 discrete episodes. We are so happy that you are here.
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Thank you, Sydney.
You say it much better than I do.
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That's gonna do it for this week.
So until next time, my name is Justin McRoy.
I'm Sydney McRoy.
And as always, don't drill a hole in your head. Alright!
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