Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - All that Juicy T&A with Tom Sandoval and Ariana Madix
Episode Date: January 29, 2019Tom Sandoval and Ariana Madix get into some Scheananigans together with a round of Never Have I Ever! Plus, all the deets on their relationship, a home together, the success (and expansion?) ...of Tom Tom, some Lala drama, and Ariana's skincare safety! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea.
This is Shenanigans.
And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea.
All right, we are back.
I have two of my besties sitting across from me, Tom and Ariana.
How are you guys?
Hey, how's it going?
Good.
Thank you for being here again.
Of course.
Thanks for having me.
Tom, welcome to Shenanigans.
Awesome.
Glad to be here.
Thank you.
Janet is going to play a little game with us. I'm sure you guys are familiar with Never Have I Ever.
Of course.
But I figured if Janet does the game, then I can play with you guys.
Wait, is this, is this Sheena's rules where we only have to answer if we, if we feel like
it?
Wait, have I done that before?
Dude, I have never played a game with you.
And I mean, ever.
It's like a thing.
You always, you like have everyone else stick to the rules, but you're like, oh, I can't.
I can't do that.
I'll play spin the bottle, but if it lands on this person, this person, this person, I'm not kissing them.
Okay.
I'm not going to argue with you.
I mean this is my show.
We are in my studio, but we'll play fair.
Okay.
So no, I'm – I think I'm pretty much, I'm an open book.
I will answer anything.
So.
All right.
Yeah.
Let's, let's see what she's got for us.
All right, guys.
These are going to be good.
Okay.
They better be.
Never have I ever spent a night in jail.
So we're going to start with five fingers.
Oh, wait.
And if you've done it, you put it down.
Yep.
Okay.
Okay.
Tom's taking a sip of his diet Coke.
I just took a drink. that's how I normally play.
Yeah, we can do that too.
Okay.
I got my hand up.
No, you put your hand up.
Yeah.
You have five fingers.
Okay.
If you did it, you put a finger down.
Okay.
What have you been in jail for?
Me?
Yeah.
I was getting ready to leave.
My buddy of mine was doing an event and literally like six cops rolled, six sheriffs rolled Me? Yeah. traffic stuff and I got a ticket for like expired um plates didn't show up for didn't fix it so
then they suspended my license I got pulled over driving while suspended and then I didn't fix that
so like they I had a warrant out for my arrest they came and arrested me oh my god yeah I was
hoping it was gonna be something well I guess I'm glad it's not something more intense.
Yeah, I'm surprised by that.
Okay, how about the next one?
Never have I ever had sex in a sleeping bag.
In a sleeping bag?
Tom's making a face.
You already have a finger down.
Tom doesn't understand how this game works. He does not get the rules.
There you go.
I don't think I've ever had sex in a sleeping bag.
I don't think I've ever slept in a sleeping bag.
You've never gone camping?
No.
That does not surprise me.
I've had sex in a tent, but not in a sleeping bag.
No, anytime we went camping, we would have a really nice big motorhome.
Okay.
I've never roughed it.
So, no, my fingers are all still up.
I'm realizing all of the questions I picked are all sex-related, so I'm sorry.
Great.
Never have I ever had sex with my boss.
Oh, definitely.
More than once.
Who?
Every restaurant I've ever worked at, almost.
Not Lisa Vanderpump, hopefully.
Not sir.
Not Ken Todd.
Not slept with, no,
but the old manager
at Villa Blanca and
the chef, whatever. Anyway.
And you guys never had
sex with a boss.
I mean, a boss, but not
like my boss.
I had,
yeah, when I worked at TGA Fridays.
Then you need to put two fingers down.
You had sex with a TGA Fridays manager?
Yeah.
I was like 18.
Did you guys have your flare on?
I took the flare off.
13 pieces of flare.
Did you like give her a piece of your flare after that?
Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah cool and then some oh
whoa okay okay how about the next one never have i ever had sex with someone i've met on the internet
okay just sliding into dms does that count as like meeting someone on the internet on the internet
no wait i don't think i have any fingers down i don't know why why I'm sitting here. Yeah, I was wondering which one it was.
I think I just did that because I was looking at you guys with your thumbs like that.
I mean, I've met guys through Instagram, and that's become a thing.
Yeah, so the answer is yes.
Have any of you guys ever had sex with a fan?
Well, no.
Oh, I guess you guys know sheena i mean that's not one of the
questions i'm not gonna put a finger down kind of like i mean if it's like a guy like i've like
gone on a date with who like had happened to watch the show but i wouldn't consider him like a fan
it's not like someone's reached out to me on twitter and then i'm like hey what's up you want
to get it on like no ari Ariana was a huge fan of the show.
So that's a yes from me.
Oh yeah, you know it. Oh my god, season one.
My favorite show.
Ariana was so excited to be a part of this show.
Yeah.
Okay, never
have I ever purchased a porno movie.
Purchased? Have you ever paid
for porn? No.
Never paid for porn. That's kind of a guy thing
paying for it how much is porn what's the free yeah what's the point in paying for it well i i
was i remember i was at the pleasure chest and i saw these like retro retro porn and i got some
like old like retro retro porn is totally different i feel like that's like a fun thing to do you weren't like
no you're not like subscribed to like a weird website no no hell no why would you do that when
you look at it for free that's exactly what i was asking is i feel like you would look at like
70s porno for like out outfit inspiration maybe oh my god for like a party i want to talk about
your birthday party we'll get into that.
Okay.
So I still have no fingers down.
Okay. Last one.
Maybe we'll get you with this one.
No, not last one.
We still have fingers up.
We've got to go until we get our fingers down.
Okay.
Never have I ever had sex with someone that didn't speak the same language as me.
No.
No.
Really?
I feel like you're always traveling.
I feel like you might have had one.
No.
Okay.
Never have I ever licked chocolate,
whipped cream, or peanut butter off of
my partner during sex.
Not during sex. No. More like as a
joke maybe. No.
I don't think I have.
Tom? I don't know. Maybe.
I don't know.
Never have I ever smoked pot with
my parents. Oh, I have. I have.
Woo! Finally. Yay! Such a bonding moment. bonding moment yeah oh my god i love getting my dad high
your brother gets my dad high that was the last time my dad smoked weed was with jeremy
that makes a lot of sense that's cute um never have i ever kissed a member of the same sex on
the lips okay oh duh come on we're all putting fingers Tom lost you can go into Tom Tom and see
Sandoval literally kissing shorts oh that's so cute I love that yeah all right well Tom you lost
I lost or did you win or you won yeah I came in second maybe Ariana you lost look here's your
prize done the least amount it's a bottle bottle of water. Water. There you go. Courtesy of Podcast One.
You're welcome.
So, okay.
I feel like most people probably know this, like if you've watched the show, but like
we've known each other for what?
Like over a decade now.
Oh my gosh.
Back to Villablanca days.
Yeah.
Did Villablanca open?
It was like 2008 or 2009.
That's when you guys met?
Yeah.
It had to have been 2008 or earlier because, or no, no, no, right around then actually.
Yeah.
Because I remember like it was right after I booked like my first movie.
Oh my God.
That one is like a scary movie.
Yeah.
No, that was.
Or that was a different one.
That was like my third or fourth.
Oh, okay.
I'm just saying.
This was like a movie that literally shot in like four days on one location.
Gotcha.
So it tells you like how awesome it was.
I have a few of those.
Yeah.
And then what year did you start at Villablanca?
Probably 2011 because I moved here October of 2010.
And I didn't start working at Villablanca like right away.
So I think maybe probably like 2011.
Okay.
So this is what we were talking about at work the other night.
You never knew single Sheena.
Late 2008 or 2009.
Yeah.
Actually.
That's what I was thinking.
I forgot about it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sorry.
At least 10 years though.
Yes.
Crazy.
But that's right because you, up until this past year, you never knew me single.
No.
Sandoval did.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Kristen used to hate me.
Like, she would, like, come in if we were bartending together just to, like, keep an eye on us.
Oh, my God.
To make sure nothing was happening.
They all used to do that.
Everybody had their eye on me.
They used to come from Sir over to Villa Blanca and just act like fools.
Oh, my God.
That feels like so long ago.
Yeah, it does.
Stassi and Jax would get shit-faced.
They would start arguing in the middle of Villa Blanca.
And it's like, you know.
It's quiet in there.
It's a quiet place in there, yeah.
It's peaceful.
Right?
They finally got a TV.
They finally stepped up their game at the bar.
Yeah.
Dang.
They still have those uncomfortable bar stools.
Oh, my God.
And they got new bar stools.
Oh, wow.
They still have the shitty ones, but they have some comfortable ones now as well.
The cheese grater?
The ones that are like cheese grater on the ass?
Yeah, the chunk of your butt cheek comes out the bottom.
What is the point of that?
Dude, that place is responsible for like my coffee addiction because it was a snooze fest
at night.
All candlelight.
Oh, it's gorgeous.
The only time.
But it's like you want to just lay down.
Yeah.
Villa Blanca is also the only time I've ever created a fake account to troll somebody.
And that was I created a fake Yelp account because I couldn't take the music in there.
Oh, my God.
It was like Barbra Streisand.
Fucking tears.
Can I cuss on this?
Yeah.
Whatever you want.
Fucking Tears in Heaven by Eric Clapton.
Fucking Michael Jackson.
Yes.
Father figure.
The Girl is Mine by Michael Jackson.
Kiss from a Rose.
Dude, it was the worst music.
And if we ever changed it.
Lisa would come and be like, put on the Saint-Tropez playlist.
Oh, God.
That fucking Saint-Tropez playlist.
Because remember, I made a playlist.
Yeah.
And it was like good, decent shit.
Yeah.
And then they wouldn't let us use it.
It would clear the place out.
I mean, people would hear Heartbreak Hotel.
And I'm not talking like the elvis song
i'm talking like whitney houston the version the one from like stella got her groove back yeah
like depressing that's a pressing ass song and the girl at the end of it sounds like a siren she's
like after like the breakdown it's like if you hear that song every once in a while you wouldn't
notice it but the we would hear it like three times a night. Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That music.
It was bad.
It was really bad.
It was awful.
Yeah.
Now they just play John Mayer on repeat.
Okay.
There you go.
You love that, huh?
Oh, yeah.
Janet and I are like sitting at lunch and we're like, oh, he just follows us everywhere.
All right.
But yeah, I've never known single Sheena.
Yeah.
I'm enjoying it. it's very entertaining i am
still here it's been almost a year and a half oh my gosh it was so funny when you first brought
shea in i was like all right sheena if you want me to like play play along i'll you know what i
mean i was like i didn't really take it seriously i know no one did I literally had a bet with Katina she's a
server who used to work there and it was like Shay and I started dating um like a little bit over
summer but it was more casual it was like more so in October and she was like you're not gonna be
with this guy by Thanksgiving and I was like wanna make a bet I was like he's different she's like
yeah okay she knows she's like I will make you a bet she's like dinner on me any restaurant
in la if you're still with him on thanksgiving wow is that her selfie on thanksgiving i was like so
when are you making the reservation at boa nice good choice but then i ended up feeling bad when
we went to dinner and i still split it with her because i was like this is really expensive and
yeah we did not have any money back then boa is really expensive yeah kristen wants to take us
there soon i was like okay i'm down the vegetarian wants to take us there soon. I was like, okay. I'm down.
The vegetarian wants to go to the steakhouse. Yes, I know.
Because we all were promoting James May and everything.
She's like, no, I want to take you guys to a really nice dinner.
They do have the really good, that table-side Caesar is so good.
So good.
I think that table-side Caesar is what got me on my Caesar kick.
I never order Caesars.
It's not my thing.
The last few months, I just been like wanting Caesar salads.
It's really weird.
My mom would be so disappointed in me.
Do you like the anchovies on it or no?
I don't eat the anchovies, but I.
You like to know they're around.
I kind of like to know they're there.
Yeah.
I mean, it's already in the dressing, which is enough.
Yeah.
But the slimy things on top.
I'm not going to eat the actual anchovy, but I do like the saltiness. Yeah. Eat it. Yeah. But the slimy things on top just slimy as well. I'm not going to eat the actual anchovy but I do like the saltiness.
Yeah.
Eat it.
Okay.
That's what she said.
Anyway,
one thing I do miss
about when we all
worked at Villablanca
was we used to have
the best dance parties after.
Yeah, we did.
It was a we just dance parties.
Oh, yeah.
I want to bring it back.
That was like my way
of escaping from the hell.
That was my life.
I know.
I remember.
Yeah.
Like we had the hell that was mine.
Seriously.
Oh, my God.
I love the cheesy, fun choreography on those games.
I am the only person that's ever beaten Ariana.
It's true.
Yeah, it's true.
How did that happen? I have no idea. You Ariana. It's true. Yeah. It's true. How did that happen?
I have no idea.
You guys and your rock lobster.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Rock lobster is so fun.
And the dirty dancing one.
Dee, dee, dee, dee, dee, dee.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You never did the lift at the end, though.
You guys never got that down.
No.
We got to get that down at some point.
We got to work on that.
Yeah.
Maybe you can lift me.
Yeah, I'll lift you.
You can lift me.
I have strong legs.
There you go.
Oh, yeah. Last last night wasn't i like
trying to break your leg with my legs oh yeah you are i was pretty close right yeah yeah you're
pretty close yeah what were you guys doing i don't know i don't know i think i just like was like
trying to demonstrate my strength it's not surprising it sounds like something you guys
would do in bed yeah it like wasn't sexual at all, actually.
It was just like, I think I could break your leg if I tried.
Ariana exerting her dominance over Tom.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay, I want to talk about TomTom.
Yeah.
So what was your first thought when Lisa came to you with this idea?
I mean, I didn't – I got really excited.
I was a little beside myself.
I got obviously really excited.
My head started like just – brain just started like all these thoughts, all these thoughts, all these concepts, all these like – it was like a dream.
You know what I mean?
When you daydream, when you're really excited about something and you just sit there just like I could do this then I could do this oh my gosh and then we could do
this and then this could happen and then like you know yeah it was it was awesome such a great
feeling and yeah how involved were you with the decor menu all of that like I know we see a little
bit on the show but like behind the scenes stuff, like how involved were you? I mean, I really didn't have a lot of, as far as, um, I love the idea of the share plates.
I was, you know, I didn't want it to be this thing where you like sit down and get appetizers,
have an entree, then bring desserts.
Like I didn't want that kind of vibe.
I don't like that vibe myself.
I hate big dinners.
I think they're where you got to like sit down, you know know especially big dinners where you're like crammed at a table
it takes like an hour to get your freaking appetizers like it's this all day like thing
i hate those so like i like sitting down grabbing drinks having a little nibble here and there
you know so i love dinners i don't i love so i I love the idea. I just asked if we could try and do an elevated Crunchwrap Supreme like from Taco Bell because I love Crunchwrap Supremes.
And then maybe some Toasted Raviolis, which I'm still working on the Toasted Raviolis.
And then obviously I had tons of ideas for cocktails.
But as far as the menu goes, that was kind of her thing.
But I agree with it.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Tom does hate big dinners because I remember when we were in Vegas and we had like three hours to kill before we were going ziplining.
And Chad from Nickelback wanted to go to like a big nice dinner.
And Tom was like, anything but a big nice dinner.
We're like, well, we have three hours to kill.
We're downtown.
We gambled for a bit, but we did do a big nice dinner.
I was like, all right.
He's like, come on, man.
Let's crush some good reds.
I was like, all right. All right. I'll crush, all right. He's like, come on, man. Let's crush some good reds. I was like, all right.
All right.
I'll crush some good reds with you.
He loves a good red.
Yeah.
He loves crushing them reds.
Have you, guys, do you keep in touch with him?
Yeah.
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Okay.
But, yeah, he came in, he said what's up,
and then Chad texted me because they're, like,
I guess really good friends.
Yeah, Anthrax.
Yeah, I still keep in touch with them.
I haven't heard that band name in a long time.
I know, right?
Oh, my God.
No, but that was so fun.
He, like, brought him to my show in Vegas,
and that was a good time.
Chad's a cool guy.
Yeah, he's really cool. Yeah, and when we went to their concert, it was like because they did a little like mini residency thing
I forgot how many songs Nickelback has I was like, oh my god
This takes me back to high school. This reminds me of like a breakup like yeah, like a lot of hits
You're like look at this photograph
Far away song. I totally forgot about that song until I got the show.
I was like, oh my God.
Took me back.
I like that one that he did on the Spider-Man 2 soundtrack.
I heard that song today.
It came on SiriusXM on Pop Rocks.
Hero.
Him and Saliva.
Oh, what?
Yes.
The lead singer of Saliva.
I forget his name.
But yeah, I love that song.
Great harmonies.
Yeah.
His voice does that thing where it does two pitches at once.
It's pretty interesting.
Yeah.
Speaking of pitches, how's your trumpet playing going?
It's not really going.
It just kind of stays up in the closet until James asks me to pull it out and play it once a year.
I mean, I don't know what he expects.
Like you, you bring somebody in and you're like, Oh, it's a, here's the song.
Might like, just play some tunes, you know, ominous tones.
And it's like, dude, okay, I'll try.
You know, how many instruments do you play?
I guess, well, plays a little bit of a stretch here.
Um, I mean, I guess I can try to any brass instrument except the trombone and the French horn.
I can't play French horn, but anything like trumpet, cornet, baritone, any of those.
Tuba, I can play a tuba.
Like you know how it works.
I know how it works. I can it works i can play but you're
not you don't like practice i don't practice yeah i play guitar acoustic electric a little bit tiny
i took piano lessons i've seen you play uh on like my keyboard or something like yeah you're
pretty good i'm okay well it's again if you don't practice something you're not gonna be
you have to practice you don't use it you you're not going to be – you have to practice.
You don't use it, you lose it.
Exactly.
What instruments do you own other than a trumpet?
Just like –
Guitars.
Guitars.
Like three or four guitars.
I'm trying to imagine what else is in that closet.
I imagine like samurai swords, lightsabers.
Definitely.
Colored contacts.
Definitely some swords for sure.
Wigs.
All kinds of stuff. You go go to my like you go to our
storage unit it's a freaking toy box i can imagine you guys have had some of the most like elaborate
like best costumes thanks i mean out of any couple on the show definitely like best dressed both of
you oh thanks what's your favorite costume that you guys have both done? That we've done like together?
Either together or individually.
I was going to say together is definitely Todd and Karen.
Oh my God, yes.
The cyber goth couple from Best Buy that live in my parents' basement.
That you may have seen in a viral video where they were dancing under a bridge.
In the daylight. In the daylight. Oh oh my god i remember that one yeah it's so funny someone actually i think asked me
like did you get is this are you guys being those people from under the bridge and i was like that's
amazing that that person noticed it because we were but then we created these like elaborate black backstories on them. Yeah.
Yeah.
We work at Best Buy.
Karen kind of like gets around.
So Todd's like super stoked that she's decided that he that she wants to date him.
She like she like takes pictures and he's like, yeah, and the pictures and she'll like cut him out of the picture.
Like took a real long time to like change her Facebook status.
Yeah.
Whereas he changed it to inrelationship, like, immediately.
Like, immediately.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
No, but seriously, you guys always have the best costumes.
Thanks.
Like, you seriously go all out.
Ice Queen and Vampire was fun.
That was a good one.
Yeah, that one was so good.
Yeah, that makeup took me, like, four hours.
I don't know how you did that on your own.
I don't know.
I got this idea in my head of like if I put white makeup on and then I get blue eyeshadow,
I can use the blue eyeshadow as contour.
Yeah.
As opposed to like, you know, bronzer.
Totally.
And it worked, but it was a lot.
It was a process.
That was my second time putting on acrylic nails because I wanted to be like a vampire
with acrylic nails. Yeah, you wanted like long, creepy nails. Yeah. What was the second time putting on acrylic nails because I wanted to be like a vampire with acrylic nails.
Yeah, you wanted like long creepy nails. Yeah. What was the first time you had acrylic nails on?
When I dressed in Dragon New Orleans. Oh, I remember that. That was so, both of you were so good at that.
It was like freaky. I actually want to see more of you guys together as like cross-dressing couple.
Yeah, Visa Merhomp and
jordan something jordan tyler jordan tyler fine fine star i came up i came up with the
with those names with the girl drag names yeah and yours you came up with mine yeah i came up
with your name you reminded me of james in drag like you was drag was james i was thinking of like justin bieber meets like
one of those boys one of those vine boys what were they called viners yes but there was like
those ones that got really huge oh like the team 10 of vine sure what were they called i don't know
yes i know your sister would know she would know but they were like so i don't know like vine got so it's vine was great like it's so funny but
yes yeah yeah yeah yeah like that meets like a justin bieber but like more obnoxious definitely
i think one of the questions i had so many questions come in on instagram for you guys
that i'll ask you in a bit i had to literally take it down because there was like 50 questions.
I was like, hold on.
I don't know.
I was like, pick the top 10.
This is overwhelming me.
But one of them asked if you're ever going to bring back drag.
Will we see Sandoval in drag?
Dude, I would love to.
I like kept all of that stuff.
He literally has like a suitcase full of drag stuff.
I have like all the ass pads, the shapewear pads.
Because you got to have that hourglass.
Right.
I'll tell you.
If you're not going to do it right, don't bother doing it.
You have to pay tribute to great drag queens.
You can't just half-ass it.
For sure.
And it was awesome because one of my goals that night was to be mistaken.
I don't even care if it was like by somebody who's literally
blackout drunk whatever but so i was leaning over the bar to order drinks and like twice a group of
guys walked in and were like checking out my ass the security guard told me yeah our security guy
told me it's hilarious he's like dude like two groups of people have come in they're like been
like checking out your ass.
Oh, my God.
They're probably trying to figure out if it's real or not.
And I'm like, wait, what kind of shapewear are you using?
Ask me for a friend.
Did you, after that aired, did you get a lot of shit from people saying like you were being like insensitive or did you?
Okay.
Hell no.
I think it helped.
I think because people knew that you were sincere in your love
of the art exactly yeah you weren't making fun of it you guys even had a drag queen help you with
your makeup yeah for sure and that was something you really wanted to make sure you were like i'm
not here to like throw on a wig and a dress yeah like that it'd be like oh this is so funny i'm a
straight guy in drag like that 80s like um that that 80s Budweiser commercial where it was ladies.
I don't know if you remember that.
But all these guys, like, put on wigs and, like, dressed and, like, yoo-hoo.
Oh, God.
And they're, like, getting, like, free drinks.
It's so stupid.
But, yeah, no.
I'll tell you the worst part about that was is I could not get those damn nails off.
Oh, my God.
I remember that.
I'm, like, just soaking my hand in, what was that?
Acetone. Acetone.
And I ended up having, and I had Swarovski
crystals on them and I had to take nail clippers
and cut through them.
It was like grinding them.
I do remember that. We were like at the pool the next day
and Sandoval was just sitting there like giving himself
a manicure with his hands. I felt so bad
because when we first went out the night
before, you didn't have the nails
on because we were in a rush.
Yeah.
And then when we got to the first bar, I was like, here, I'll put those on for you.
You got to complete the look.
Yeah.
And then I felt bad because then you couldn't get them off.
Could not get those things off.
Whoops.
Yeah.
It was a good look.
You were bringing up something when we were just at lunch about the style.
Oh, yeah.
I always feel like, okay, I'm from a small town in Ohio.
And a lot
of my friends will be like that like oh he they cross-dress like they they're gay right like
they're really secretly gay and i feel like there's this whole i don't know coming of age
thing that's happening right now where you guys are doing a really great job of bending gender
roles while staying in you know your sexualities where it's like, it's okay for
a guy to put on fake nails and dress up and drag and still be straight and have a strong
relationship with his girlfriend.
Comfortable with this.
Yeah.
And totally comfortable with sexuality.
And I understand like in LA, you can go out like that.
Nobody questions that.
Nobody looks twice at you.
It's not anything in small towns like where I'm from, Ohio.
People are like, what's going on with that guy?
But I feel like you guys are educating your audience of like, you can do do this stuff you can dress up and you don't have to want to have sex
with men you can dress up and just yeah you can do whatever you want and embrace your creativity
without making some larger statement why anything why rob yourself of like all those experiences
yeah it's so fun i think it's so fun to be. When people are closed off like that, I think they're depriving themselves of having a good time and really enjoying life.
Yeah.
And you guys do such a great job of, like, supporting each other in that.
You're never like, oh, my God, Tom wants to wear fake nails.
You're like, no, no, I brought the glue.
We're putting him on his bar right now.
Well, yeah.
She's always.
She's good.
Sometimes in a good way, she'll help.
I have to reel him in sometimes. Sometimes she'll reel me in because I'm just like so wanting to just go way over the top and to the point of like.
But that's just like editing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to edit that.
It's like when you're writing a book.
You got to edit it a little bit.
Yeah.
But you guys are so supportive of each other and can bend gender roles while still being who you are.
And I think that's really, really great.
Thanks.
I appreciate it.
Well, the rules are changing all the time.
So they should be.
Should be.
Yeah, definitely.
Rules are made to be broken.
And speaking of writing a book, what's the latest with the cocktail book?
We have I can't.
OK, I'm not allowed to really divulge a whole lot of information on that.
OK.
But I will say that we are working very hard on cocktail recipes at the moment.
Yes, because we have to make sure.
No. No.
No.
Yeah.
We have a lot.
I just found out, okay, you guys are all probably going to make fun of – I know you are.
You are.
And you are.
I literally just learned for uh
writing cocktail recipes i just learned how to make jello shots for the first time ever amazing
oh my god i'm an expert it's my first time we i didn't have like we didn't do jello was a kid and
then like when i got older i've had jello shots but I've never made Jell-O or Jell-O shots. So last week I experimented with making three different types of Jell-O shots.
Yeah.
One of them is a Jaeger bomb, but it's like Jaeger Jell-O and then on top is the Red Bull
Jell-O.
Ooh.
Interesting.
But it's all one.
Like, you know what I, you don't.
Like a shooter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it looks cool because it's like – it looks layered.
Cool.
So like in the one cup, it's the two things?
Yeah.
How do you do that?
Well, you make the Jaeger Jell-O and you just get like the regular gelatin instead of like
flavored Jell-O.
Yeah.
So you make whatever – I don't have the recipe on hand.
But you make the Jaeger Jell-O part first.
And then you put that in the fridge for like 20 minutes.
And then while you're letting that sit for a sec, you make the Red Bull Jell-O.
Sugar-free does not work as well.
No, it doesn't.
No. When you're making Jell-O shots.
No, it doesn't work.
I've learned that.
So regular Red Bull Jell-O.
And then because the Jaeger one has been sitting in the fridge for a second.
It separates.
You can put the Red Bull one on top of it.
And it'll kind of stay separated a little bit.
I love that.
So it's not like two different pieces like separate.
It's one thing.
Can you say what your favorite cocktail is in the book?
And I want to know what your favorite one is on the TomTom menu.
is in the book.
And I want to know what your favorite one is
on the TomTom menu.
We got some really
interesting stuff
that we can't quite
talk about.
It's unlike anything
you've ever seen
anywhere.
Does it have glitter?
Oh.
Some of it.
Disco tits shots
will definitely be
something that people
will find out about.
Those were amazing.
You weren't there
that night, huh?
No, but I love
the idea of it.
Yeah. And I love the name. Disco tits. Tovelo. Tove amazing. You weren't there that night, huh? No, but I love the idea of it. Yeah, and I love the name.
Disco Tits.
Tovelo. My favorite Tovelo
song. Shout out to Tovelo. Also
a nickname
that has been bestowed upon me by
Jessie Montana because I've literally
been at a music festival with Disco
Tits.
I made her keep them on.
It's true.
Out of all the drinks on the TomTom cocktail list, which is your fave?
That's easy.
It's definitely the Toulouse Mine, which is the absinthe.
Which one's that?
Oh.
When I made this drink, the first time I made it for Lisa and Lance Bass, they had like
Lance Bass.
They both had three of them.
That's how.
For somebody who doesn't drink absinthe, that's how you can tell when you got a good drink.
When you can get somebody to drink something that they normally hate, then you know you're doing good.
I love absinthe.
I don't think I've tried this drink yet.
We use these habanero-infused sugar crystals, all made naturally, and with pineapple juice, absinthe and lemon juice.
And it's an amazing drink.
No, I've had this.
Yeah.
It's great.
It compliments itself so well.
Like, you know, the first thing you taste a little sweetness from the, from the sugar
and then, you know, then goes into the pineapple with the citrus and the lemon.
And then, you know, right as then the vanilla sort of happens in the pineapple.
And then that, that goes really nice with the absinthe, that licorice and the vanilla.
And then right as that burn starts to happen from the absinthe, the habanero kind of comes in to complement that and leave you with that awesome, lasting impression.
I want that right now.
I know.
I like the matcha bucha.
That's my favorite.
Oh, yeah.
That's what all my girlfriends got when I took them there last week for dinner.
When people hear the ingredients, they're like, that sounds disgusting.
And I'm like, well, you think that because you haven't had it.
Is it Doc Holliday?
Yeah. That's my go to at Tom and Tom.
I created that one as well. That's with mint
and red bell pepper.
I have full trust in you with
cocktail stuff. After there was a night that all
of us were at my place and I was like
oh I have like. Is this the night that you
like fell over? Yes! He fell over.
He fell over. I hit your weed pen.
Crossfaded my ass off.
There was a night though.
I was like,
uh,
we have like a half a bottle of vodka and like nothing else.
And you were like,
just hold on a second.
And you opened the fridge.
You got out a bunch of our condiments.
And I was like,
I don't even want to know what he's going to do in there.
But you made all of us shots and they were all delicious.
And I was like,
I literally had vodka and mustard.
What the fuck did you put in this to make it taste so good?
But everyone was like, what are these?
Can we make more?
And you're like, I don't know if we have the stuff to make more,
but that was it.
But I fully trust you with cocktail stuff now.
It's like MacGyver.
I know.
If you can go into my kitchen and make stuff out of condiments and vodka,
then you can do anything.
That's something that we're focusing on too with
this book is that we're going to be doing things like that teach you how to teach yourself.
And it's going to be situational, some classy, some trashy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but most, most of the time with cocktail books, it's like, I have three of them.
I think you probably have one or two.
They're just a thick book full of cocktails.
It's like if you want to make something, you can literally just Google it.
But ours is going to be more about teaching you how to teach yourself and not make it so difficult.
A lot of people want to sound intelligent and make things complicated in cocktail books.
That's really cool because then people can show off when they're hosting a party and actually
have done it themselves.
And also explain why
it's important during certain
situations to choose this
versus something else. I like that.
You guys are so smart.
Now,
other than the dog holiday,
my fave are the Tom Tom shots.
Are those on the menu or is that just something that you need to know someone to order it?
Like in and out?
The secret menu?
Yes, the secret menu.
No, they're on the menu.
We have a shop menu.
Oh, so okay.
They're not on the cocktail menu.
They're at the shop bar on that menu.
And we just, I just created two more cocktails.
One of them is called the Tamakazi, and the other one is Vanderblood.
What's in the Vanderblood?
Forget the name of the cherries.
But they're like dark cherries that we soak in alcohol.
And you muddle those into St saint germain lemon juice and whiskey and i'm trying to think
there's like oh and cherry herring cherry herring i love all the names they're so creative thanks
did you guys do most of the names uh they they actually did most of the names but that's fine
yeah i don't care yeah they're creative so who cares yeah the bar is called fucking tom tom so yeah i mean we both came up with some of the names but i feel like you uh there was a couple
of cocktails that were called something else and then they like just changed the name yeah they
just changed the name yeah yeah yeah what's your favorite thing on the food menu um the baba pump
tacos i love the chicken tacos the ones the jicama tacos oh yeah i haven't tried really On the food menu. The Bubba Pump Tacos.
I love the chicken tacos.
The ones, the jicama tacos.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't tried those yet. Really interesting.
I love those.
The jicama is really, it's got like a crunch to it.
Yeah.
But it's soft.
My mom used to make jicama, like we would, she would make homemade salsas and then she
would use jicama instead of tortilla chips.
Yeah.
It's delicious.
No, seriously, that is definitely my favorite out of all of the Vanderpump restaurants now.
I think, just so you guys know, TomTom has the best cocktail and food menu.
I mean, I know that we're biased.
I always say this.
But it really is.
I know that I'm biased, but I'm also right.
Yeah.
So it's fine.
Exactly.
And you guys have vegan and vegetarian options.
Like the buffalo cauliflower at TomTom.
The first time I ate that, I was like, there's no way this doesn't have meat in it.
It's so good. So good. You guys have all the options. The first time I ate that, I was like, there's no way this doesn't have meat in it. It's so good.
You guys have all the options.
The flavor is such a unique flavor.
It's almost like, it's not like buffalo.
It's not like buffalo.
It's kind of, but it has like spicy orange chicken, but not, I don't know.
Yeah.
But not as sweet.
It's freaking great.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's Pharrell's favorite.
Oh, Pharrell's been to Tom Tom?
Yes.
What?
Yeah. I didn't know that. And he had the nutcase. The nutcase was his cocktail. Oh my God. I did not know that. it's Pharrell's favorite Pharrell's been to Tom Tom? yes what? yeah
I didn't know that
and he had the nutcase
the nutcase was his cocktail
oh my god
I did not know that
that's so cool
how crazy is that?
what other fun celebs
have been to Tom Tom?
well there was like
that time it was like
Kaley Cuoco
oh yeah
Lacey Chabert
they were there together
Chloe Grace
I served them some Tom Tom shots
with the buzz buttons
they loved it weren't Spencer and Heidi in there? they were so nice yeah we were just talking about that They were there together. Chloe Grace. I served them some Tom Tom shots with the buzz buttons.
They loved it.
Weren't Spencer and Heidi in there? They were so nice.
Yeah.
We were just talking about that.
I feel like there's been.
There's been some other ones.
I just can't remember.
My favorite chick on Grey's Anatomy was there last week.
Camila Luddington.
Sweet.
I saw.
Was just there.
My mom was like, oh, the one you like.
And I was like, what?
There's always like, I mean, it's just like, it's the hot spot.
It's a little hot spot in West Hollywood.
I love that.
Have Chrissy Teigen and John Legend been in? Ooh, no. I don't think's just like it's the hot spot. It's a little hot spot in West Hollywood. I love that.
Have Chrissy Teigen and John Legend been in?
Ooh, no, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I feel like they will soon because they're both such big fans.
They need to come.
Yeah, we'll arrange that.
Yeah.
We'll arrange that.
What were your thoughts when you first walked in and saw the decor and everything?
I was shook.
I was so excited shook i was i was i was crazy i couldn't i was so
scattered like i felt scattered because i was trying to just take everything in and take it
in as a whole i mean everything was custom built that was the first time lisa had had gone with a
designer who actually custom built stuff for the restaurant she normally finds stuff and then
brings it in you know picks things out whether it's online or at stores but this is the first
time she had somebody literally make everything and then the clock is moving like it was
unbelievable the smoke coming out of the shop bar like the clock is so cool yeah it's really cool
um yeah it was overwhelming i mean i was just so like i was like is this fucking real like it was overwhelming I mean I was just so like I was like is this
fucking real like it was nuts
I've heard rumors that
TomTom is expanding can you confirm
or deny that
I will confirm
that yes we are expanding
that's amazing yeah so like
if you guys you haven't been there so like
there's the whole wall and then there's like
the clock and the pictures and all of that.
So if you're going to expand next door, do you knock down that wall, or do you, like, just, like, make the bar go all the way around?
Hey, if it was up to me, you would sit in one of those booths and, like, pull a lever, and the whole booth would spin around.
That's cool.
Oh, my God.
That would be so fun.
It's like a ride at Disneyland.
Yeah. I love that.
Tom loves a secret passageway.
I mean, I love a secret passageway.
So, yeah.
I mean, but we're going to figure it out.
I think the bar is going to kind of go all the way around.
Yeah.
I told Ken and Lisa, as far as the garden goes, like, it'd be great to make that a double-sided fireplace.
And have it in the center.
And have people sort of, like, sit around that.
Like, as a center focal point.
I love how that whole that whole
parking lot is now every other restaurant is also expanding back so i think it's so funny it's like
there's no more that's it's all just i love how the south side of the street was like the depressing
like yeah loser side of the street and now it's like completely blowing up even even mother load
is like oh my god so nice now yeah it's literally gonna go it's like completely blowing up. Even Motherload is like – Motherload is so nice now.
Yeah.
It's literally going to go – it's literally going to go Pump, Motherload looks great,
and then Bottega Louie, TomTom, the expansion of TomTom, and then –
Beaches.
Beaches, and then Rocco's.
Dude, it's going to be – it's the new spot. Like the new town, like the new place to bar hop.
It really is.
So if you guys are visiting LA, definitely check out that corner in West Hollywood.
It's like, there's just, there's so much to do like right there.
Yeah.
I love that area.
I love it too.
The Abbey's right there.
Yeah.
So much fun.
I was at the Abbey last night dancing my ass off.
I saw that.
I saw on your story.
I don't even have to wait.
I don't even have to wait in line or show my ID anymore.
They're literally just like, oh, what's up, Tom?
There you go.
Neighboring bars.
That's a benefit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I wanted to ask you, Ariana, the last time you were here, you were talking about Face
Flexer.
Yes.
What's going on with that?
We're finalizing our labels and our packaging and all of that.
And so hopefully we will have things out in the next
few months. It's kind of with everything that we've been working on with like writing the book,
trying to buy a house, you know, and then this cancer shit from last year, like that really
kind of put a wrench in my plans. So it's things take long. You know what? You have setbacks,
things take longer, but like, I love our product and I actually really I love our like new little I kind of
design.
I don't know.
I had a suggestion for our label design.
Yeah.
And then when it came out, I like I think it looks super cute.
So I'm excited for everybody to see it.
Our sheet and our gel mask will be the first wave of things that come out.
They're great, by the way.
I love them.
Yeah, he does.
And then it's really important to me for us to come out with a really solid sunscreen.
Yeah.
So I think that will be next on the agenda after that.
Can you do like a, can we, like after that, maybe work on like a men's line?
Sorry, I'm burping.
Or a Vegas mask.
Yes.
Okay.
Because masks, I always, you have to do a vegas mask but
face elixir is all about like we have our goddess that represents face elixir but
we also each one of our products we like to think of as like their own goddess or like the goddess
in you the customer or god and your man you can be. Cool. So, yeah, just kind of be like a Dionysus reference, which is kind of like the god of partying.
Sweet, yes.
I like that.
Yeah.
So you were saying sunscreen line.
Obviously, that hits close to home for you.
Yes.
I just want to say that I commend you and admire how you've spoken publicly about this.
Thank you.
There's so many personal things that I think a lot of public figures and celebrities try and just, you know, hide and don't tell the whole truth.
And I think it's so important for people to know, you know, they should be getting checked if you see something that doesn't seem right.
Like, you should always.
Yes.
And if you ask a doctor, if you say, hey, I don't know about this.
And they're like, well, you know you you're probably fine like don't stop there because uh that's what i did for years is i
kind of was like well i asked about it and they said if it's not really growing or changing a
whole lot like you should you're probably fine and then it's like okay well then i finally went
to an actual dermatologist who was like let's go ahead and get rid of that.
And then after I got rid of it, it was biopsied, came back positive, stage one melanoma.
So, you know, you have to be persistent.
You have to know your own body and be like, even if this person is saying I'm probably fine, if I'm concerned about it, I need to like take that further.
Definitely.
And now you have like an awesome battle wound scar
like yeah scar sister i was thinking about telling people i got stabbed in the heart yeah
and then they were like oh shit there's nothing in there she's heartless you handled a lot because
you didn't at first i mean right after it happened you didn't share it right away you took some time
to figure out exactly how you wanted to share it with the world and everything and you had people questioning and wondering oh
she had surgery what's going on a lot of hate and stuff and you handled it so well and like so much
like a badass where you were like i'm gonna let them say it and then once you had your time to
like explain what was really happening you did it so well and in a way where people then couldn't
come after you anymore. Yeah.
And like you not dressing up for Halloween and then like people saying things because it's like.
It was so weird.
Someone was like, oh, she got a nose job.
I'm like, of all the things for me to get done.
You're the tiniest, cutest little nose.
What would I do?
That is like not what I would do if I was to get something done.
No.
So how's it going with buying a house?
I mean, like I I know, but...
I don't, you know, I get nervous about, like, jinxing it.
But we are in escrow.
Yay!
Oh, my God, I didn't know that.
That's so exciting.
Is it the one you showed me?
It's one of the ones I showed you, but I'm not going to tell you which one.
You guys are going to share your address here live on the air?
That's so exciting. I'm so happy to tell you which one. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. You guys are going to share your address here live on the air? That's so exciting.
Yeah.
I'm so happy for you guys.
I can't wait for a move-in housewarming party.
Oh, you better believe it.
I feel like you guys are going to have a dress-up party.
Is it going to be a trek?
Do I have to go over the hill and back?
It's not going to be Marina Del Rey kind of trek.
From West Hollywood.
Is it going to be equal distance?
I don't know.
No.
You guys, I live in Marina.
I drive here for work every day.
I've been driving for the doctor's appointments every day.
25 minutes.
It is not a Trek.
I will say Stassi's little map, the stick figure thing was fucking hilarious.
That was funny
you gotta go south down the 10
the 405
25 minutes
no traffic 25 minutes
which is closer here or the airport
the airport she's right by the airport
okay well it takes
10 minutes from the airport
closer or further away
I'm closer than the airport
yeah you're probably like in traffic 10 minutes from the airport. Like closer or further away? I'm closer than the airport. Okay. I was going to say.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're probably like in traffic though.
It's, it can be long.
Well, yeah, of course.
Traffic, getting from West Hollywood to Beverly Hills could be long.
Yeah.
When I had to go for my surgery, it took us like 20 minutes to get from our street to
Cedars-Sinai.
Yeah.
Which is like, you could walk there totally yeah it's
like we could walk to the to cedar sinai from our house or from our apartment and it took us like 20
minutes to get there into the car we were almost late we almost late for my surgery because of
traffic yeah la cienega and beverly that's crazy i know i just like i literally could just get out
the fucking car and walk and be there faster yeah I mean sometimes like that's the great thing about like all the bird like
scooters and stuff now oh yeah is just for traffic I've never birded I'm scared oh my god there's so
much fun I'm terrified especially like by the beach where I live they're awesome I'm so scared
they're really great by a beach I don't know why they're just they're I've been on them before like
me and Max in San Diego we took birds everywhere yeah I'm I'm too scared to they're just I've been on them before like me and Max in San Diego
we took birds everywhere
yeah
I'm too scared
to get on one
I was really afraid
at first too
but then once I got
the hang of it
I'm like why am I
not doing this
all the time
yeah
I just feel like
I'm usually in
some sort of like
low
like a boot
maybe with like
a lower heel
and I'm like
I've done that too
so like I'm gonna
end up falling in traffic
and dying
Bird will send you
a free helmet if you request it.
Salem has selfies of him in the Bird helmet.
I love that.
Apparently, you can get pulled over for not wearing a helmet.
So you should be wearing it.
Yeah.
And they'll send you one for free.
Love that.
Thanks, Bird.
Sponsored by Bird.
When we get into our house, too, I'm going to make sure that there's a nice bar in there.
Because I'm sorry, a drink cart does not cut it for me.
Like, we need a full-blown bar.
I would expect nothing less than a full bar.
Yeah.
This is so exciting, you guys.
Oh, my God.
I'm so happy for you.
Thanks.
First one to buy a house.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I mean, hopefully everything stays running smoothly yeah for sure i get scared
until it's like yeah the wire money today so we're in s yeah i had i wired money today yeah
like right before i came here that's so exciting it's like you know i mean because you guys have
made it very known that it's like you would rather buy a house and do all these other things than
waste money on a wedding and children.
Yeah.
You know?
But it's like to each their own.
You know, Jackson, Benny, Eric.
I think everybody should do whatever makes them happy and live their life the way that they want.
And everybody else is, you know, everybody's happily ever after doesn't look the same.
Exactly.
You know?
One thing I just noticed, I'm sure you saw on my Instagram a couple days ago, I post
a picture of me in the hospital bed about like freezing my eggs.
And it's like.
Oh, yeah.
Congrats, by the way.
Everyone's journey is different.
Yes, congratulations on your dozen.
Thank you.
We only got nine good ones, so I'm going to do it again.
Okay.
So you can have nine now.
Yeah.
She's like going to have nine babies, everybody.
You know like Octomom?
Oh, my God.
What is nine? Like instead of Octo, what is nine? you know like Octomom? Oh my god. What is nine like instead of
Octo what is nine? I don't know.
Non. None.
I don't know. We're like
none. But that's the thing
it's like everyone's journeys and experiences
and what they want in life are different and like
no one should be judged for like
oh you guys are living together in sin or you're not married
or you're not this or you're not. It's like there's no right
way to do things. No you make your own rules exactly make your own rules
actually i said it's 2019 oh i thought you said 2018 no it's 2019 2019 oh dang it yeah i just
heard teen teen yeah 2019 but very happy for you guys thank you i feel like it's gonna be harder
to come up with a housewarming present for you guys than it would a wedding present for anybody else.
No, no, they're going to do a registry.
So here's how I feel about it. I'm going to say
this real quick because I think that some
people might consider that to be tacky.
No. No. Here's how I feel
about it. If we're not having a
wedding and we don't get to
have that, why is a wedding the only reason
why somebody should be able to be given presents?
And usually those presents are for their house exactly those presents are always for their house so guess
what we can skip the wedding we'll register for the housewarming hell yeah and everybody can get
a sick housewarming party hell yes oh my god i'm so excited as soon as you guys started talking
about buying a house i was like oh my god what do i get them like they already have lightsabers like
what do you what kind of like cool do you get them for their house?
I'm glad you guys are registering.
I'm going to hop on that registry as soon as it's open
so I get the best shit for you guys.
The cheapest thing is like 500 bucks.
No, I'm kidding.
Is there a pool?
Yeah, and a jacuzzi.
Wow!
Yes!
Oh my god.
You guys are going to have the best party.
The pool has an area that is like a half foot deep.
So you can put chairs in.
That's the best.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
That's the best.
At Topgolf in Vegas, they have those chairs.
And at Golden Nugget.
Oh, yeah.
They do.
My favorite hotel.
Yes.
And they kind of have that at Mandalay, but not at the beach.
They're more of like a wave pool.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, so cool.
Oh, my God.
I'm so happy for you guys.
So then we're going to – and then I want to start a podcast in the bar area and make
a cocktail for all of my guests, invent a drink every week.
Fun.
Yeah, and make it for them and have the podcast like actually in the bar.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
We were talking about that last week.
I think that's such a cool idea. Yeah. Thank a cool idea yeah thank you yeah who doesn't like sitting down
having a conversation at a bar it's great right exactly yeah have you thought of a name for it
not yet i'm working yeah working on that i don't think that'll be too hard for you
yes so i know there's been a lot of press and stories that have come out about Ariana and Lala.
And I just kind of wanted to ask you guys about that.
What?
I haven't watched it.
Okay.
Well, you lived it.
I did.
I watched it.
I mean, you were pissed when he came up to the bar after you got that phone call from Lala.
Yeah.
Question one, what the fuck were you thinking?
And question two, how did that make you feel?
Here's the thing.
They were comparing stories about, like, you know, Schwartz was talking about how Katie, like, dipped in the lady pond or whatever.
And then, like, no.
Like, they're like, come on, dude.
You got to.
Yeah, you got to.
Which, Yeah. So Lala called me and was really upset because she was like, you know, Randall, like, this
is going to be really bad.
Like, what do I do?
And I was like, okay, that pisses me off.
Like, I'm not like what happened.
But like all of that, the whole, all of that is like fine.
It's not even that I'm like mad that people would know about
that i was mad that someone else was involved who might now have like a big issue with it
right not everyone's boyfriend says it's an la handshake
yeah but i mean whether it was on or off camera, you still told. And then I was annoyed. And then I was annoyed because I was like, great.
So now these guys are going to potentially be like thinking about that, which is.
I think low key.
I think low key.
I was sort of the situation at the time really annoyed me because I'd been in a car dealership for like seven hours, like negotiating like my lease.
I have to say that it annoyed me
because i wanted you to be involved and then i was like well i can't lala's obviously not into
that idea so they were what do i do wasted and i was like i was jacked up on caffeine i had a i
was jacked up on caffeine i've been in the dealership all i wanted to do was grab a fucking
beer like i was like you know like my stomach was
bothering me and they're just like wasted as hell they've been drinking all day and i'm like felt
like their chauffeur you know what i mean like and i was just annoyed at this whole situation
i was like all right guys like i'm like circling the block and stuff and like
i was annoyed again i was annoyed because like my ideal situation in that moment would be, like, for Tom to be involved.
Yeah.
So I was, like, kind of caught in this weird place of, like, I don't hate what's going on, but I also do hate what's going on because, like, it's not as fun if Tom's not.
Yeah.
So there's all that.
I felt really bad for violating their trust, both of them.
Like, I felt really bad violating her their trust both of them like i felt really bad that that you know i that was probably my biggest regret was that you know i had ariana
had trusted me with something and i violated that but yeah but it's okay i think that it was annoying
you guys are so cute they're holding hands right now like embracing each other you know i
i know that tom was so sincere and so genuine and in the way that he did feel bad i you know
we were we lived it together so you know we were both in that car all three of us were in that car
but like what was crazy is that it kind of then was like well violated then i was almost forced to be like okay yeah um so
now i've kind of like tiptoed around this before and people know i've been with guys and people
know i've been with girls now we have to sit here and talk about well this is what now now i've been
outed essentially so here we go now this is like a
bigger conversation about you know my sexuality and whatever which that annoyed me because that's
something that is like my story and only my story and you know it's not that I have no issue having
people know that about me it's just that I wasn't necessarily thinking that that was like the moment that I was going to like tell this story or if I would even never have to.
Yeah.
I did like what you said, though.
It's like because I mean, people are so quick to put labels on sexuality.
And like you're like, look, if you're attracted to someone, you're attracted to someone.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
And if I was to put a label on, if I was to like define myself, I would be doing it for
someone else.
I wouldn't be doing it for me because I'm in a loving relationship with a man named
Tom Sandoval.
And he's pretty cool.
He's pretty cool.
You're cord.
I know.
And so I don't feel like I need to be like, I'm this and this and this, whatever it is.
So, you know, whatever.
I appreciate and respect that more.
I feel like there's a lot of women, men, everybody out there who has, I guess, like less harsh boundaries on what sexuality is and go with whatever they're comfortable with at the time.
And as long as there's consent and you're comfortable and it's something you want to be doing, I think more power to you. And I think it's good that you put it out
there that you've had experiences with both men and women and that it's okay that you can still
consider yourself straight and be in a healthy relationship with those experiences. Yeah. I mean,
yeah. And that you don't, you don't necessarily have to define yourself, but that you're like,
it's okay. I mean, look, I'm in a relationship with a guy currently that i've been with for five years and i plan on being with him for a long time so
yeah i'm attracted to women but it doesn't really matter right now at least at least so she can
afford to buy me out of the house um we'll talk then but it doesn't have to be this black and
white gay or straight thing it's like you can people. You can be whatever the hell you want to be
at any point in time.
And I honestly just think that,
you know,
this applies to so many things in life
and so many things on our show,
especially.
Things don't fit into a neat box.
I felt like more.
And like life doesn't fit into like
a neat little storyline
for a television show.
I felt like more dudes were attracted
to Brad Pitt
and Fight Club than girls.
Like...
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
Seriously, more straight dudes
were, you know,
attracted to...
Whatever.
Yeah.
I'm serious.
I believe you.
Dude, back...
I got you back.
Back at you.
Yeah, see?
Yeah.
We'll lose it.
But I did love that moment
with you guys after
at the apartment
because it's like
you are seriously like couple goals.
Like, I mean, anyone who says otherwise is crazy.
But like, just you were so pissed and he violated your trust.
But then you guys like just so quickly were able to come together and move past it.
And that's just how all relationships should be with communication and forgiveness.
And I just look up to you guys.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Sheena.
Yeah. You little, Sheena. Yeah.
You little sweetie.
Thanks.
So I did have a bunch of questions that came in
and I want to ask y'all some of them.
Okay.
I know we got to wrap it up, as Lala says.
Speaking of, I want to know your opinion
on her you're dismissed attitude.
I don't.
I think it's bullshit.
I mean, I think that you need, you know,
with our situation, everybody's going to have their side of the story. And if you're if you disagree with that, you disagree with that. There's no there's no reason to be like snotty or bossy about it. Like, you know what I mean?
people i okay i'm trying to figure out how to word this without making it sound like something that i don't mean we are you know all part of this show and you know in normal life you might
be able to walk away from a conflict with your friends because you don't want to get in a fight
or whatever we're in a different situation we're forced to talk about things that we maybe would avoid in real life.
But it's real feelings and that's what makes us deal with our shit with each other.
So when you just kind of like walk away from a situation and like take your mic off,
I feel like it's unfair to everybody else.
Yeah.
Because I think that that's just like, I don't know.
It's just not, it's not fair because we're, we all have to talk about things we're uncomfortable
with.
We all have, we all talk to, we have conversations we probably don't want to have, but we don't
rip our mic off and walk away.
Right.
And nobody can dismiss anybody else because you're not in charge.
So you can't, you're not my teacher.
Yeah.
You don't, you can't dismiss me or anyone else.
Do you think, cause I know this has happened to both of us where, you know, you see like
things Lala says either in an interview or online or whatever.
Do you think that she says one thing and acts one way to your face and then says different
things behind your back?
Uh, I've seen her do that.
Yes.
I mean, I've seen her do that. Yes, I mean, I've seen her do that.
So I would, you know, I like Lala a lot.
Like, I think she's cool.
But she's definitely done that before.
Yeah.
I mean.
I think that I've done that before because I've been afraid of confrontation with somebody.
But when I'm away from that person,
maybe it's easier for me to
you know say how i feel about a situation and then when i'm in front of that person i'm like
i know we like all hate confrontation i hate our job if you know you're doing your you know
you're doing your job when you feel nauseous when you're having a conversation tell me about it
oh my god or you've had like four drinks and all of a sudden you feel completely sober.
Yes.
That's how you know you're doing your job, folks.
Alexandria Maria Vega wants to know what aspect of your life do you think is the most difficult to show on Vanderpump Rules?
I would say sometimes with Ariana, like our dynamic, like because we talk all the time and we're constantly like around each other. like especially like we spend a lot of time at night with each other and in the morning like
we kind of get out of we'll wake up we hang out and like talk in the morning and i think the
hardest thing to sort of convey sometimes is like you know when we're filming it's like i've already
said everything i've like needed to say to Aria yeah we've already like talked about
this like three or four times in private
and now there's cameras here
and we're talking about it again
what was that thing that I said
that was clever I don't know
what was that like
trying to be interested in something
that we've already told each other
yeah it's trying to be interested in something that we've already told each other.
Yeah, it's weird.
I think what's been hard for me with the show is like, I know that relationship stuff is kind of a big portion of what is focused on.
But when I'm working my ass off to try to do things in my life,
and then I'm reduced on the,
on the show to just like marriage and babies,
it gets me really fucking riled up.
Yeah.
As it should.
You're such a feminist and like strong independent woman that like,
I'm like,
yeah,
God,
like this,
that's the most boring part about my,
that's really so boring.
But I also feel like you do such a good job educating people.
Yeah.
It's not boring for,
I don't mean to say like, that's boring. I mean,. Yeah, it's not boring for – I don't mean to say like that's boring.
I mean for me it's like we've already been over this.
It's like to keep rehashing it to me seems like really like this is like we've been here before.
Like why are we doing this?
And I'm sure you guys have to rehash a lot of stuff that you're actually solid about and have moved on or came with.
When we were on Watch What Happens Live, first time after we started dating
was the first time we got asked about marriage.
And it's literally been asked to me
every single time I've been on Watch What Happens Live
or in pretty much any interview.
It's been asked me more than anything else.
It's actually surprising.
I'm going to put this out there
and maybe people will pick up on it if they hear this.
I'm going to literally leave. I've kind of like decided i'm gonna put my foot down about
this even though i know that people asking the questions mean very well and they're very sweet
if i'm in an interview for or i'm doing press and somebody asked me that shit i'm literally
gonna end the interview and walk out good for you you've answered don't laugh it's true i've
answered the question numerous times it is not
for me it's like there are so many more
things you could be asking me about that are
like more you know I have
much more to say on so
I think at this point to keep asking
me it's disrespectful so
don't 2019 not everybody
has to go through the traditional
marriage
we've been asked before so We've been asked before.
So it's like, fucking drop it.
Yeah.
I had Colton the Bachelor here, and I was like,
I'm not going to ask him if he's still a virgin,
because I guarantee you that is the same question
every single interview he's done, he's been asked.
It's like having...
What's it like being a virgin?
I'm sure he's been asked that so many times.
It's like when, gosh, when Black Panther
when he, every time people would be like
Wakanda forever and you could see he was
like, obviously it's such an awesome thing
and then over time he was like
his arms just got, he's
like, yes, yeah, like how many
thousands of times can I keep doing the same
thing? I think people should lay off
of those questions because you guys are
in real life, I know you because you guys are in in real
life i know you guys you guys are so solid and such a strong couple so happy and fun to be around
it's so clear that both you guys have such like a light-hearted like attitude on life like love
going to concerts with you guys probably my favorite people ever oh my god yes so much fun
but i think people shouldn't question those things as long as they're as long as the people are happy
if you guys seemed really miserable and like marriage would be like the thing that would make you happy, I'd ask about it.
But you guys seem so solid and happy in life.
I don't think it's something to pick at.
It's always around July every year when it becomes something that needs to be talked about.
Yeah.
Life of Amberlee wants to know, where do you guys see yourself in 10 years?
I would like to, okay, where you guys see yourself in 10 years um i would like to okay where do i see myself in 10 years well i'm just gonna manifest super successful boss bitch
in a beautiful house and finally joining scientology
don't even say that they're gonna find me i'm gonna edit you or uh audit you
oh my god heather lynn wants to know how do you balance your relationship owning a new restaurant
and bar working at sir and being in the spotlight uh it's we're we're busy oh we're really busy we
are really busy lately it's like i think you know obviously you obviously we get paid to be on the show.
We were living in an apartment that was rent control, so we were saving money.
But also I think we were a little less motivated at certain times.
So with moving forward with this, getting all our finances in order and everything like just every everything
that it takes to like, you know, deal with lenders and stuff.
It it's really sort of changed our our outlook on life.
And we've been so busy and so productive.
You know, you got to make house payments.
I thrive when I'm busy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same.
I get anxiety if I don't have like dots on my calendar, which is why Janet and I are going to Sundance this weekend.
I was like, I don't have anything on my calendar this weekend.
I need to do something.
I'm so jealous.
I know.
You've got to hit the slopes because they're empty.
I'm not cleared by my doctor to work out yet.
Really?
I know.
We'll go back.
10 days after surgery.
Can you go tubing down the...
No, because I could twist an ovary, so I can't do anything.
Wow, that is an injury that I never knew existed.
I know.
An anxiety now that I have that I didn't need.
What happens?
Do you have crutches when you twist an ovary?
Is it twisting an ankle?
I mean, you might.
I don't know.
Does Tom know what an ovary is?
I'm imagining that little diagram.
Yes.
And one side has a crutch.
They put a splint on your like
Fallopian tube?
Yeah
Danny wants to know who takes longer to get ready
Me for sure
Dude, everybody, it's like the biggest misconception
People think Tom takes forever
Ariana takes forever to get ready
I've shared hotel rooms with her
And I'm like ready
And then it's like an hour later
And I'm still ready
Dude
I take forever I'm so, I can get ready so fast Tom takes like 10 minutes I take hour later and I'm still ready. I take forever.
I'm so, I can get ready so fast.
I take 10 minutes. I'm like ready.
But here's the catch. I'll be ready
but I get anxiety before I leave
so I have to like walk around the apartment
and like pace around.
It's like, oh, I gotta brush my teeth.
I gotta check my pockets, make sure I got everything.
So getting out the door
is like another like 10 to 15 minutes.
That's what ends up making you late.
Yeah.
A lot of these questions I kind of already asked you guys.
What is your favorite makeup foundation, as Team Bautista wants to know?
I would say...
I like to use Frankie Rose Matte Perfection Foundation.
And Tom?
I use Clinique Non-Streak Male Bronzer for men.
It works awesome.
He just puts bronzer on.
Every guy I've given it to loves it.
They're addicted to it.
Jack Schwartz.
They'll make fun of Tom for using it, but they use it.
They won't admit that they do it.
It works on any skin tone.
This is literally the story of Tom Sandoval's life.
Owning his sexuality and masculinity.
Everybody else copies and does what he does, but they make fun of him for doing it.
They don't own it.
Last question.
Yes.
What is the current status?
I mean, obviously, I know this, but for the listeners, what is your current status with
James?
Are you guys good friends with him?
And how do you balance that with being friends with people who despise him?
Me and James are cool.
I don't do not.
That does not mean that I condone or agree with a lot of the shit that he says and does.
Yeah.
But when I interact with him, I hold him accountable.
And I do the same for everyone else that I'm friends with, too.
And I care about everybody, and I want everybody to be happy.
Yeah, I'm cool with James.
I want good things for him.
I would love to see him in regular therapy, as I think we all should be.
I think he lacks a little self-control at times.
He's impulsive, obviously.
People know how to push his buttons, and it's real obvious,
and so they take advantage of that, and then he gets in trouble and gets unincluded.
It's not that they take advantage of it.
It's like excluded.
Excluded!
Oh, my God.
Discluded.
I think James said discluded.
Non-cluded.
Non-cluded.
Decluted. discluded. Non-cluded. Non-cluded? Non-cluded. Decluted.
Excluded.
Wow.
I don't think they take advantage of that.
I think that it's obvious when someone's pushing his buttons and instead of him going, wow,
it's really obvious that this person's pushing my buttons, I'm not going to freak out.
He takes the bait every time.
Every time.
Every time.
He's so predictable.
It's like, dude, why can't – get some self-control.
We all get ambushed.
We all get bombarded with things that affect us emotionally.
It's how you handle it.
That's what I've always told him.
It's not what someone is saying or doing to you.
It's how you handle it.
Depending upon what his situation is at CERT during a certain time or whatever,
no matter what, I feel like when he's working,
I don't feel like Kristen should be allowed
to come up there and talk to him or be around him
because, I mean, for years.
That used to be the rule.
That used to be the rule when they were together.
She would go up and pick fights with them.
When we were at the MTV Awards,
she picked a fight with them.
Stop saying pick fights with them. When we were at the MTV Awards, she picked a fight with them. Stop saying pick fights.
They fight.
They are both going back and forth.
She antagonizes him.
Sure.
Well, they don't like each other,
so maybe they should just never be around each other.
When we were at the People's Choice Awards,
me and James were...
Okay.
Relax.
I know.
I was there.
Listen, I'm saying if you don't like somebody, if you can avoid being around that person,
it's probably a good idea.
And that's all I'm going to say.
There you go.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Cool.
Well, thanks for being here, guys.
Yeah, for sure.
Thank you for having us.
I know you have a lot of stuff to do.
And yeah.
Yeah.
This has been fun.
Yeah, it's been great.
Congrats on the house.
Thank you. And congrats on the house. That's been fun. Yeah, it's been great. Congrats on the house. Thank you.
And congrats on the house.
That's so exciting.
Thanks for helping co-host Janet.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, Janet.
Everyone knows where to find you guys on social media, but just as a reminder, it's Ariana2525 on Twitter.
On Instagram, just add another 25 to that.
Tom Sandoval won across the board.
And?
Oh, Janet Elizabeth X.
Boom.
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