Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - @Pumprules Overload with Lex Tilly

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

This week, Scheana is joined by her co-host, Jamie Lynne, and Lex Tilly, creator of the @pumprules Instagram page. Lex gets into why she started her wildly successful fan page and how it was the first of it’s kind. She also dishes on her opinions of the cast and if she is friends with any in real life. Scheana speaks on how different her perspective is now watching the show back this season. The girls break down the midseason trailer and what has changed in their personal lives since the news of the Scandoval broke. What did Lex see unfold at the Canyon Club? What really happened with Jamie’s hotel room in Mexico?   Check out my new “It Really IS All Happening” merch now available, and Lex’s women owned, small business, Maui Babe sun and skincare.      Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.   Go to www.factormeals.com/teamariana50 to get 50% off your first box     Produced by Dear Media  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Oh, another week, another episode of Vanderpump Rules. Another stressful week in the life of Sheena and the Vanderpump Rules cast. But we are back at Dear Media getting into some shenanigans. I have my girl Jamie on the co-host mic. Hello.

Because I feel like I just need some help staying on track, which I know you're like, no, you need to help me stay on track. But I think together we've got this. And I'm very excited because we are popping cherries here at Shenanigans today. We have our girl Lex Tilly, who runs the At Pump Rules Instagram account, doing her first podcast ever. You are taking my podcast virginity. Let's get into it.

I love it. We'll be a little gentle. Not totally gentle. Okay. I'm here. I'm drinking my scorching hot tea, and I'm here for it. So let's do it. Yes.

So you both have seen this week's episode. You both have seen this week's episode. I feel like my brain is completely on overload the last couple days. I don't even know how many tears have come out of my eyes because I'm up to episode 12. So this week is episode 7. I'm all the way through episode 12. We obviously have the reunion this week. Have you finished the whole season now? Not yet.

How many episodes are there? I honestly don't know. Okay. I don't even know how many more are coming in because we picked back up cameras. Yeah, you guys had to add. A couple weeks ago. So by episode 12, the one that you just last saw, is that the new stuff? Not yet.

Oh. Yeah. And it's so crazy because, like, there's so much that isn't in even in mexico you don't see any of my after party from the wedding so by the time that episode airs i'm going to be posting all of the footage that we got like how do we not see james kennedy dj in a cave i need that okay i saw the story post on Instagram when it was all happening. Pun intended. But yeah, we need to see that.

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where to start because I want to break down the episode I want to answer all of the questions why don't we start with Lexi okay I want to know her background how she got into this whole Instagram account that was one of the questions that came in so I think that is a perfect place to start. And then we'll get into the episode and the rest of your questions. But yeah, so tell us what year you started the At Pump Rules account. What made you want to start it? How much work and time goes into this daily? Like, do you get paid for this?

No. Damn, Instagram should pay you just for the amount of followers. Yeah, that's why I made it a point to say this Instagram like I posted a story last night this does not pay my bills people because they think I'm doing this for a living like no I actually just care about the community I've built a community since the show started I mean when the show like episode one I created this Instagram account which is how I was able to get that handle at Pump Rules, right? So I'm 29 now. And this was like, what, 10 years ago?

So I was a lot younger. And I needed a hobby. And I had freshly moved to California. I'm originally, you know, born and raised Maui, Hawaii. So that's how it all began. And then, you know, now I'm just stuck in the mud with it. Yeah. In the best way, you know. I'm happy to be be here I feel like people think you are the show's Instagram and they talk to you later though

I can't make it any more clear than I have so and there's so many Vanderpump Rules accounts now you know there's Pump Rules Bravo there's Sir Rules there's underscore Sir Rules there's Sir Rules underscore whatever like there's so many but yours is by far the best one to follow. Thank you. You put out the best content. I do my best. You always are pretty open to seeing all perspectives, but I know you are also very opinionated on certain cast members.

So I thought it would be fun to get into some of that as well. Oh, boy. All right. We're spilling the tea today. Okay. How about we talk about some Scandival? Because I know that's what you guys are all here to listen to. We've got a lot more to talk about, but having someone who works on an Instagram account that has been so active the last few weeks with all of this. I just want to know where you were when you found out, what your thoughts were about this.

Did you have any inkling or think this could have ever been possible? You want to hide under the table? No, so I was very, very upset because legit last week, I mean, before the week before the Scandival hit, I had posted an Instagram post that said, by the way, like I stan Ariana and Tom Scandival. If they ever break up, I will never believe in love again. Like game over. And Ariana had reposted that. So the following week I'm waking up and my inbox is being blown to pieces and i'm like no way like you're kidding me and i immediately posted a story and i'm just like

what did i just wake up to i am very upset right now i was so upset and now you just kept going and then i kept going and i was like i can't in love. And then it just kept going. And then I kept going. And I was like, I can't take it anymore. I mean, it's still going. Every day I wake up to some new information, some new comment on something. There's just, there's something new every day. Yeah. It doesn't, it slows down a little bit and then it picks right back up.

No, no. My phone hasn't stopped. As you know, we've been hanging out all day. You've seen the amount of phone calls we've gotten. The texts, the emails. It just, it doesn't stop. I know. It doesn't stop. I'm still unwell. Same.

Very much same. So what did you think, what was like your first thought? Did you think when you first heard this, like, no, this can't be true. Like this is just a rumor. I believed it. I believed it. Yeah, I sure did. Because I've never gotten a good vibe from Sandoval.

Really? No. When I've seen him out, I physically keep my distance from him. I've never gone out of my way. And if he's been around, I've removed myself. And I now pay attention to how I've been when I've been out and about and seeing him and I didn't really pick up on it

just like an intuitive thing but I love Ariana yeah who doesn't I mean I think that's why Sandoval got as many fans as he did because of Ariana she's fabulous I don't know like I must have the worst judge of character same Jamie. Jamie, same.

Because I always liked Tom. Same. Yeah. I always thought he cared so much about his friends and he always went above and beyond for them and just very kind and I did not see this coming a million miles away. So Lala said to me

this week when I was telling her how my conversation with him went last week. Stay tuned on that. I assume it may be one of the last things that airs this season. It was very intense. I went to your house. Yeah, I'm not even going to get into the details of it, but it was very intense. And I was telling Lala about this and I'm like you know this is someone who for the last 13 14 years of my life has been one of the most generous giving kind like blah blah blah you know like any time there was any fundraiser if someone passed away if anything like he was the first one there to donate to do do anything. And she's like, you know what, Sheena?

Randall used to do that too. There are people out there who you think that they have good intentions of why they're doing these things. But maybe they're just doing it to look good. And I'm like, that's sad. You see people like that. I don't. I always see the good in people and I feel like this situation has now forced me to see the other side watching the rest of the season I know I've said this a couple times on here already it's even more of a mind fuck the last two episodes I watched last night because I'm like I know

the days are different from what both of them said. It was like around boys night. It was, I know, before the pool party and the episode. So there's some time in that week that the scandal all happened. And now for the rest of the season, you guys are going to watch this with a very different lens. Because you wouldn't have, I don't think think i i was literally texting with james and ally last night were the only people awake watching the episodes they didn't get sent to us like 10 30 p.m last night and i'm texting with both of them and i'm just like i don't know that i would have watched it this way had i not known but now knowing you'll see an interaction with the two

of them at sir you see so many interactions with the two of them in the next several episodes that I'm like, oh, my God. And they thought they were being under the radar, but you could see it. Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's just like James Kennedy said. We are on an Easter egg hunt now, people. Seriously.

Big time. an Easter egg hunt now, people. Seriously. Big time. I just want to say, though, I know you got really upset today thinking that, you know, you have such a bad judge of character or whatever.

You can't believe you couldn't see this coming. Some people may have had inklings of it earlier than you did, or at all. You didn't even have an inkling of it. But I just want to reiterate to you that you do just see the good in people and that's not

anything to be ashamed of. And then there's other people out there that maybe something's happened to them in their past that makes them more onto these things or maybe they're just looking for the bad in certain people and then they can spot it quicker. But I don't think that's anything to be ashamed of or feel bad about.

Thanks. Yeah, because I definitely feel like I have the worst judge of character now. And just watching all of this back, I mean, I was telling Lexi, I'm like, there's nothing normal about going back in time and watching someone else's perspective. You know, like we talked about on the episode last week and even more that I've seen with Katie, it breaks my heart because I saw such a different perspective over summer. I got a story after Vegas about how big of bullies these girls were

and just how bad they treated her. And I was so just like, fuck Katie, you know, fuck her. She's a bully. She's like the way she's treating you. Like, how dare she? And I was just so zoned in on that side. It took me back to seasons one, two. It really put me back in that mindset.

So that night at Canyon Club, when Katie called me a troll, I lost my shit. I checked out and I was like, no, no, no. I've been called names enough by you. We are done. And I just checked out for the rest of the season. And now I'm watching this all back. I'm seeing someone going through a divorce who is just so broken and wasn't being a bully and wasn't being mean and it's just like I feel

like such a dick because I was so blinded by someone else's perspective of how she was being treated that I just didn't pay attention to anything else I was just like team Tom Tom, you know, just moving. It's been very, very hard to watch back. Like, I don't like the way I look at all. Okay, so now that you have this perspective, what can we maybe implement in the future? Has anything changed your opinion about the way you're going to take on maybe new friendships or trust with people what are you thinking right now or is are you just maybe too emotional to even

yeah i don't even know okay yeah just get through the day like i don't want any new friends ever again yeah but i don't ever want to be that person that's so close that's not who you are exactly how you were raised you know i know your mom and yeah you guys are all such wonderful people thank you so i told kayla it's like 10 out of 10 recommend that family they are good as gold i mean that though yeah thanks all right on that note we're gonna i'm gonna fix my tears we're gonna take a little break the code you got me going team ariana 50 because here at shenanigans and everywhere in the world we are all team ariana period facts all right another week another time i get to talk to you about the best meals i have been eating lately from factor you've heard it on my podcast you've seen it on my instagram and that's because

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and host of Real Pod every Wednesday I sit down with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more to talk about the inner thoughts and feelings that we're all struggling with. So leave the filters and face tunes at the door and join me on RealPod. All right. So again, that is code team Ariana 50. All right. We have a lot of questions that came in, and I'm going to let Jamie ask them. We'll all answer together, and we'll get through as many of them as we can because there were so many. I had to have my sister help sort through them. I'm like, can you help me narrow these down? It's too much.

S-O-N. Help. I like this one, and I want to know the answer to this one, too. What part of the midseason trailer isn't quite as it seems due to editing? Well, I think you have one that I know you've been talking about. Yeah, because everybody

is trying to say that it's Rachel who's in bed and Tom Sandoval's kissing her. That is Ariana, people. Like, let's get that clear. Look at the nose. It's perfect. It's Ariana's.

And then the other one, the other big one, which has now been blasted on the news as fake news, is Brett. Being in the pool. Yes. Making it seem like there's something suspicious going on there. Like, there is an open relationship or something like that. Yeah, come on. As we saw from the very first trailer, before the season even came out, you know, there's rumors of this open relationship with Ariana has come out and said there was never an open relationship. There was also never a threesome.

I'm going to go on the record and say there was no threesome. There was no any of that and no open relationship whatsoever. Tom Sandoval also answered an interview question at the premiere party where they're like, oh, we heard you're in an open marriage. That was what he said. Oh, yes. And he made it clear that no, which was interesting because at that point, the affair is already going on and he's answering the question, are you guys in an open relationship?

And he's like, no, we're not. As for Brett, though, oh, my gosh, he texted me earlier today. And it was hilarious because he saw I was going off on people on Reddit. And he was like, hey, if it makes you feel better, I'm going to forever be known as Pool Man. And then he sent me a TikTok that he made because I guess someone on TikTok was like, I'm pretty sure this guy's gay. Yeah.

And then Brett made a follow up. He's like, yes, I'm gay. And it was a really cute TikTok. I didn't see it yet. Yeah, because you see Ariana, I'm pretty sure she was topless in the pool also, which is very normal on this show.

Looking fire. She was looking bomb.com. She looked amazing. She always looks amazing. But you see her kind of swim by and then there's this guy right there, but it's like, that's our gay best friend.

Totally. There's nothing to it. So yeah, that was definitely another part in the trailer. And then, you know what? Let me read this. I'm sure he won't mind, but we can ask. Okay. So he texted Ariana about that. He's like, it. So, yeah, that was definitely another part in the trailer. And then, you know what? Let me read this. I'm sure he won't mind, but we can ask. Okay.

So he texted Ariana about that. He's like, oh, my gosh, like, I made the TikTok. Like, I hope you're okay with that. And she was like, ha-ha, our couple debut. I love you so, so much. We look so fun. Yeah. Yeah.

It was just a fun moment captured. It totally was. I'm trying to think. There was so much that happened in this mid-season trailer. Also, the one that I was sent is different than the one that everyone else has seen. The one everyone else has seen is much longer. So when I saw that yesterday on Instagram, I was like, whoa, whoa, this is different than what I've seen. And me in the white bucket hat was post-Scandaval.

That was shot just in the last couple of weeks. I know people match that with the paparazzi photo of me walking in. Oh, I just use my common sense, but a lot of people lack that, I guess. Yeah, a lot of people do. So that was new. They cut some things from, I think, what was going to be in it. I think they're saving some stuff. That's what we talked about earlier.

I was like, they don't want to give it all away. They want people to look forward to seeing some of the stuff. Yeah. So the midseason trailer that was put out this week was incredible. I saw some people being like, this isn't good. There's just like bits and pieces and no story. It's like, it's not the episode. It's a teaser.

That's literally the point of it is bits and pieces to get you excited to watch the full story in the full episodes. Yeah. The majority of what I saw was positive. I mean, people are screaming, throwing up, can't sleep, anxiety right in. Watching it over and over and over again. Yeah. 40 plus times.

I know. Can't get any work done. I can't sleep. I was up until probably 2 a.m., which I don't stay up that late anymore. The baby gets up at six. So I'm on my first tea. I've already had two coffees. I'm just trying to stay awake right now. This weather has me so sleepy. But almost every night since I got back from New York, I have had nightmares of the two of them. I woke up at 6 a.m. to Summer calling me. But it was like when I wake up every morning and Sandoval was like just it's just like, oh, it's just it's so hard to start my day when that's the first thing on my mind. It's like the last thing I think about before I go to sleep, the first thing when I wake up.

It just has literally been so consuming. It's been so challenging just being at home, being present for my daughter when my phone won't stop going off. It's just like, is it ever going to slow down? Is it going to go away? Is it going to get better? I forgot to pick Ivy up at school yesterday if that makes you feel any better yes I did I got a call from the office saying Ivy is in the office can you come get her oh no Jamie here's the thing and I will blame this a little bit on the ADHD but also being so overstimulated by everything else on my phone that's going on.

But normally, like, I will remember to pick her up. But it's hard for me to remember anything else because I keep that. It's called, like, ADHD paralysis, right? So if you have something important to do, it's hard for you to retain information about anything else for the rest of the day. So my focus, instead of remembering to pick my daughter up, became all this bullshit, you know, that I'm dealing with online and just everything like that. So I was working on my podcast and I just worked through the time that I had to go get her. I've never done that before.

So that was a wake up call. I was like, oh, my gosh, like it's consuming. Yeah. And I have ADHD, too. So I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Have you spoken to Ariana?

Oh, yeah. How is she doing these days? She's, I mean, I think the way this all came out, as disgusting as it was for her to find out, and the way she did, and then you know it's just out there for the whole world but I think the way that the whole world has rallied behind her she just has this crazy sense of empowerment that she's just pulling through and pushing through and she's doing as best as she can you know she got a new haircut she did a live comedy show like she's getting out there we went to a concert literally the day after she found out about all of this. Yeah, while I was at the Tom Sandoval and the most extras. I know, but someone had to

be there. I had to do it for the people. You know? Someone had to throw the tomatoes. And then I'm getting scolded. The drummer is standing over the stage, like over me, and he's making it a point to make it a production in front of other people around. What was he saying to you?

Oh, he's like, first, it started with him mouthing things to me while they're still performing. Like what? He's like, why? Why? Because I'm Team Ariana, baby. So you were yelling Team Ariana, and then he was like, why? I wasn't even being crazy about it.

The other people on the other side of the stage, now that I've seen clips, they were being way more, you know, circus-y over there. And I was, you know, but he's like, I know who you are, mouthing things to me. And then after they finished performing, he comes up to me, standing on the stage. I'm below the stage, like in the front, obviously. And he's like, you know know you need to have both sides of the story everything's alleged nothing's been confirmed and just going on and he's like well you know and i made it a point to stop him and be like this is not appropriate we can have a private conversation if this is what you want to discuss i said there's a lot of ears around me right now

and after that took place people were asking me if i was okay because of how uncomfortable it made the people around me as well but i'm unbothered okay it's very it's hard to you know bother me yeah especially i guess my thing is consider the source like look at who i'm dealing with you want to tell me this shit's alleged and the band out of my effing face the band knew right I guarantee you he knew I also said do you not realize that I know cast members like do you think I'm just running with what TMZ

is posting I mean probably he did he probably didn't know no he looked shook when I said that he actually looked startled like he didn't know what to say when I was like you know I talked to cast members, right? Yeah, there were a lot of questions that came in and asked about that. Like, who are you friends with and whatnot?

Because obviously, I mean, like, you have my phone number. We text. I consider you a friend. I consider you a friend. You were invited to my daughter's birthday. Yes, can't wait. So you obviously know firsthand information. You're not just a fan account that posts things based on blogs and articles

like you actually speak to us you actually have a full text conversation yeah that you so i've been getting a lot i'm gonna stay out of it i've been getting a lot of questions about something specific that happened and it happened at the canyon Club and all of my followers are going to be very, very happy that I am finally discussing this right now. So let's get into it. All right. So at the Canyon Club, James Kennedy and Allie, his lovely girlfriend, they were, you know, going back and forth about something. And I saw Raquel, she was sitting across from me at the table and I said, Oh look, something's going on over there she immediately pulls out her phone and starts recording them which at the time you know I'm sober I don't drink alcohol I thought that was so weird I'm like why are you recording them it's literally nothing to record you know and then more people got involved not gonna name names or

anything but more people got involved and that's when it got messy but you know everybody's saying that James Kennedy got kicked out he already had dj gear he already had his backpack he was already trying to leave it's not like he got kicked out it got messy when other people got involved so then that led to everybody going outside and a fan who was around you know she was inebriated but she took a video at the end of what happened. And, you know, I guess it was sent to Brock and Brock told the person like, hey, delete that from your phone. Right. And so then I'm getting a text message, not a text message. I got an IG DM saying, hey, hey, Lex, like, can you do me a favor? And then it ended with her number. So I text her. From who? Just verify. From Raquel, Rachel, whatever you want to call her.

And so I texted her. I said, hey, I got your DM. Like, what's up? She's like, sends me a, let's see if I can pull it up. I think Jamie got a similar text. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I explained all of that on the Team Sheena episode. So I feel like Lexi is just filling in the part where I because I did say on the episode that she DM'd you or texted you as well and asked you to lie as well.

So if you have it and you want to read it. I can read it. I said, hey, it's Lexi. Got your DM. Hey, girl. This is her now. Hey, girl. I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure you were around when James got kicked out by security Saturday night.

I said, yeah, i saw the whole thing i was the person who told you something was happening with him and security there was only one security guard involved i mean whatever but and um i said we were sitting in the booth together so let's stop right there and say how did she become the narrator of what happened that night when she didn't even remember that i was next to her the entire time right let's get that clear so that was weird and she then she proceeds to send me the video which i had already seen but obviously since she doesn't remember anything she's not going to remember that you know i saw the video she said so then she goes and says but a fan got a video brock asked for them to airdrop it and then delete it off their phone.

Production needs a release sign by quote unquote, whoever took it. And I was hoping you could just say it was you so they can air the footage. And there's another text that says, would you be down for the cause? The video is sending now. Sheena and I are going to talk to him on camera tonight about what went down. But I feel like this last video gives really him on camera tonight about what went down, but I feel like this last video gives really good context about how it all went down. Would you mind signing a docu-sign via email by production with a smiley face? I don't want to pressure you to do anything

you wouldn't be comfortable with, but it would be super helpful with like a smiley, you know, blushy face. I said, I remember the girl who took the video. She was inebriated and her husband was being messy too. I don't feel comfortable signing a release since I was not the person who took the video and I'm in certain parts of the clip. I said, you can see me in the corner letting you all handle the situation. I did go to Ali's side to check on her. And I talked to her when I first saw all that was going down because I noticed she didn't have any of her friends around her. She's like,

okay, totally understand. Thanks for letting me know. And then I told her also, it is important to note that the clip only shows the end of what happened. Then she goes on to say, yeah, do you know why security went over there to begin with? I figured it was because they were arguing loud enough for security to try to break it up. But Allie probably wasn't yelling. So I had taken my dogs for a walk and then I, you know, told her what happened. And then obviously on the show, as people saw, she turned what I said and remixed it into her own, you know, idea of events. But my thing is, I am not going to help you try to make your ex-boyfriend look bad.

I felt so bad. I'm not here for that. I'm not here for that. I didn't want to be roped into that. I ended up texting James before Team Sheena came out. And I apologized. I'm like, hey, like I was covering for Raquel. I never did sign that release. It, you know, it didn't really become a bigger storyline. Like it was, you know, we filmed that whole night at CERN about that situation. And I was like, I just want to apologize. I was covering for Raquel and I feel bad and whatever I said. And then he was like, no, it's all good. I was never really upset with you to begin with. I mean, we had it out, but... Yeah, you had mentioned on your podcast, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm, you know,

I'm not going to help her make James look bad, especially it was her choice to leave him. Move on. Move on. Even that night, you know, James and Allie are headed towards the truck because they had come with their friend. I don't know the friend's name,

but she's over here running towards them. I grabbed her. I'm like, we don't do therapy and we don't do all this work on ourselves after the fact of getting out of a toxic relationship if that's what it was with them. You don't do all that work to still put yourself in the middle of it. You know?

And she's like, yeah, Lex, you're right. But she's voluntarily just roping herself into the mess and there's a lot of red flags for me I saw that night. And then she went and said that she's not just roping herself into the mess and i there's a lot of red flags for me i saw that night and then she went and said that she's not going to the after party because she has a booty call so i was like who's the booty call with you know that was another thing she said a lot of messy things that night and i pay attention yeah and i haven't repeated anything i'm not messy with my platform but now it's team ariana so yeah it's all out there now with my platform, but now it's Team Ariana, so it's all out there now.

That was a lot, I know. Yeah, no. Got to keep up. I know. There was another question that you started to get into, so they want to know if you're good friends with the entire cast. So we know who you're not friends with at the moment. Oh, yeah. I have certain people I've upset, so I was recently blocked by Tom Sandoval, the drummer,

obviously. Let's not even talk about him anymore. He's like, stop it. Normally I like drummers, but not of cover band. Not me. You are a drummer girl. Not a fan. But what was I going to say? Oh, another question I saw online was, why did Raquel be so insistent about this video that she didn't take being

signed off by somebody and the reason for that is because her video does not show shit it was the fans video that makes James look bad so that's obviously what she wants aired not this little back and forth you know obviously just a relationship thing that's innocent going on you know and honestly I'm going to be straight up the security at the canyon club they were being complete dicks they were being very rude like saying that they want to fight james and stuff calm down there's like a whole bunch of the security on one guy you know and it's probably because he has some type of status and he had dj'd night. I didn't appreciate it. I didn't like that at all. Yeah. Yeah. I was I didn't quite know why she

wanted us to lie about it. So that's good insight from your To make James Kennedy look bad. I mean I knew she wanted to make him look bad but why didn't she just say she took the footage. She doesn't want the wrath from him. That's what I assumed. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So are you good friends with anyone else from the

cast? I'm cordial. I would say are you good friends with anyone else from the cast? I'm cordial. I would say I'm the closest with Sheena. You know, I'm friendly with Ariana and her friends. But, you know, I just don't go out of my way. I do what I do. I give a shit. You know, I just keep on keeping on. Well, someone wanted to know who's your favorite on the show other than Sheena.

Ariana. Ariana. Okay. But the thing is, that's nothing new. Because you could ask my ex-boyfriend from like 10 years ago and he'll be like, she's always had a thing for Ariana, but I'm also bisexual. So that could have something to do with it. But I just genuinely appreciate her. Like her energy has always been vibrant. She's always been real.

And she's just the best, man. I know. That's why I begged and forced her onto this show, basically. Season one, I was like, I need a friend. Be my backup dancer, please. Oh, gosh. I remember that. You had the, like, pink skirt thing that you wore.

Oh, my gosh. Flashback. Flashback. Oh, my gosh. Flashback. Flashback. Oh my gosh. I should do a rewatch. I should watch all of your show because there's so many things that come up in games and questions and stuff. And I don't know which seasons I've seen and which I haven't.

Yeah. I should start it from the beginning. A lot of people are. Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. If only we got residuals. It's just a lot. Right?

Well, and back then, you can't forget that the episodes, there were a ton of episodes before, like 20-something. Oh, yeah. And now they've had to cut it down a bit for whatever reasons. But, yeah. I'm going to add that to my to-do. My to-do list is so long. Well, ADHDers over here.

The to-do list, like, I got notes and it's just, I keep adding. It never ends. Adding. It never ends. Yeah. Like, let's not talk about the to-do list, like, I got notes, and it's just, I keep adding. It never ends. Adding. It never ends. Yeah. Like, let's not talk about the to-do list. Let's not. Let's not.

Moving on. Next subject. Yeah. This is for you, Sheena. Okay. What episode do you think Scandival started in? This week. I think, yeah, because this week starts out with the girls coming to boys' night.

week starts out with the girls coming to boys night so whether it was after boys night or see you next tuesday or whatever it was definitely that week like for sure that's when shit started to go down i do not know which exact day but i can tell you in episode seven it was already happening and when you watch it and now that you know that when seven, it was already happening. I want to pull my hair. And now that you know that, when you watch it, it's like, oh my gosh. But in the time. You were a good friend. You had her back when nobody else did. You rode so hard for both of them. Now I need to see somebody doing the same for you.

Because justice for motherfucking Sheena, man. Thanks. First it was justice for Sheena's eyebrow, but now let's just cut the eyebrow part, pun intended. Right. And justice for Sheena. That's the one thing that always annoyed me. You know, I'm just like, no one ever has your back. And if they do have

her back, it's a little bit and then they stop. Well, that was what annoyed me so much about Charlie last season is at the beginning of the season,'s like sheena i'm your ride or die i've got your back no matter what against everyone fast forward to the tea party where she just like doesn't have my back and throws me under the bus and makes me look and feel so stupid because of the o'sheen at the pool party situation so i'm like no you, you were not a ride or die for me. Well, and then people also doing things for the cameras, which is very inauthentic. That was one thing.

That was one of my biggest issues with her all of the time. She was one way on camera and another way off camera. Let's keep the reality TV show to the reality. Yeah. Yeah. Portion. I do like Charlie. I always say this to you and oh she's

always been nice to me she posted maui babe you know so i'm like okay yeah i fucks with you but no that's your business yeah shout out to maui babe yeah that's what that is how i make money i'm very passionate about it i love it so my grandfather established a business in 1996 it is women owned he has since passed away unfortunately um don't want to get emotional I've had a lot of loss in my life my my dad and my mom and my grandfather but um yeah so we manufacture and sell suntan lotion it's known quote-unquote as browning lotion skin care products and sun care products and it's operated in Maui, Hawaii.

That's where our warehouse is. And my aunt, Christina, she's the CEO. And, yeah, I love my family. And I love what I do because of our Maui Babes. Yes. They make my world go round. Totally. Where can people buy it? Oh, we're on every Ulta Beauty, Bed Bath Beyond.

Awesome. Mauibabe.com. Yeah, follow us at Mauibabe on Instagram. I need to get our followers. It's been hard with the algorithm. I mean, not with the Vanderpump rules scandal. Why don't you have someone who actually loves Hawaii? Yes, I know we were talking about that.

Okay, good. No, totally. Right? When the weather starts warming up and stuff, I'll do a little bikini. We'll do it all. We're hard to miss. You land in the Kahului Airport and the Be An Amazing Maui Bay banners, they're vibrant yellow and red

and they just are in your face. Yeah, I've been going to Maui for the last, I don't even know how many years, since my honeymoon. I know. 2014? Mm-hmm.

I know, I see your posts. You guys, I love that about your guys' family. But your grandparents lived in Hawaii. They used to live on the North Shore. Yeah. Which is so special for you. Yeah.

It's sentimental. Always has been. Everyone, I've never been, but everyone who goes to Hawaii says that it calls them. It calls back to them. Yeah. And they can't ever get it out of their soul. I go back and forth. It calls me.

It's a different type of life. And that's what I was telling Sheena. I just, I don't understand how people operate these days. Like I like I sit down and I now my thing is, you know, consider the source of like who I'm dealing with. So if someone's messy, of course, I'm going to expect them to be messy and unhealed. Like, why would I expect anything else from them? But in Hawaii, you know, we're about respect and love and family and like caring about one another and being real and genuine yeah so moving out here is a culture shock to say the least it's very different yeah hawaii has always been like my happy place yeah well same i have to go i need a happy place and

i have this vegan resort no reaching this resort is reaching out to me for the last year and they're like please come stay you can stay for free. We want you here. Why haven't you done that yet, then? I don't know. It's that to-do list that we've mentioned earlier. I'm just too many things going on, but I really need to get in touch with Hawaii. She'd take Ivy on a little vacay.

She wants to go, so that, too. Yeah, she would thrive. Yes. Yeah. Okay, let's get back into some questions. Okay. Do you think Tom and Raquel will come back for another season?

Tom, for sure. Her... I don't know. What about Ariana? I don't know. Okay. It's like the end of last episode. To be continued. Yeah. Yeah, I honestly don't know what the cast will be season 11.

Then you know you got Dodie coming back season 10. Yeah, Kristen, Dodie. Sorry, not sorry. Suck a dick. I'm ready for this. Jax and Brittany on Watch What Happens Live this week. Can you give us any insight? Why are they doing Watch What Happens Live?

Well, Jax also just did another show. First of all, Watch What Happens Live is not just for Bravo talent. They have all kinds of celebrities and people and authors and whatnot on. Like Danny Pellegrino was just on. He's not a Bravo show, but he's a Bravo fan. Yeah. He was lovely to watch with Katie. He was great.

They were a good little combo set there. I enjoyed that. I love him. So, I mean, they do. They have past Bravo talent on all of the time. Jax has a new show. I'm not sure So, I mean, they do. They have past Bravo talent on all of the time. Okay. Jax has a new show. I'm not sure when it airs, but he just shot House of Villains. And him and Brittany have a new podcast that is coming out soon.

I think next week they're hopefully going to be the guests on Shenanigans. So we're going to get into that. So they definitely have a lot to talk about. And I'm sure they have opinions on all of this. You know, Brittany and Ariana are still friends. They always have been. Jax obviously has his opinions on Sandoval, and I'm sure. I just watched a clip, actually.

I have it on my phone of him literally predicting this to the T happening. Really? Oh, yeah. I'll show it to you after. It's like a throwback clip. I found it on TikTok last night, my I can't go to bed thing with ADHD mind thing going constantly. But it, you know, he says that he's usually never wrong with predicting these things. And he's right.

He's right. Damn. And so I think one reason why he has been, he's going on Watch What Happens Live is because Andy did mention that he was in the most communication with Jax when this shit went down. So that might have something to do with it. Like, they were in a lot of communication. He said, you know, because people were asking him, like, who have you talked to since this happened? And Andy said, Jax has been somebody I've talked to the most.

Mm-hmm. Interesting. So you think there's a chance they'll come back next season? I think there's a chance everyone comes back, for sure. Everyone? Everyone? I mean, we don't know. That's the thing.

Our cast is actually like the last to find out everything. We're the last to find out what day we start shooting, what day we wrap, how many episodes, all of that. We're literally the last to find out. So I would say there's a good chance everyone comes back. I would say there's a good chance certain people don't come back some people might not be asked back we never really know i don't know how i mean if i put myself in rachel's situation how i would be able to do that i mean i don't know you see her once she has a few drinks she has the biggest balls you've seen which is making me uncomfortable i'm like she starts doing these hand motions and

snapping and the facial expressions come out i'm like please stop can you not it's been so cringy like i was talking about with you she's in the kitchen with sheena's in the kitchen with schwartz and raquel's there and you can tell she's been drinking because she's over here with the like snapping and like girl stop please just stop for all of us. And also in the kitchen at the pool party at Tom and Ariona's. What happened there? When she calls Lala a Mistress Bimbo. She's like, you give off Mistress Bimbo vibes.

And I'm like, you just. Was this after she. Yes, Jamie. Yes. Is this on this week's episode? Yes, this week. She's barely in anything. She's the least closed person.

Well, we watched this episode at your house, but I couldn't pay attention. There were like, who was there? Jenna was there. Natalie was there. And everyone was like talking through the episode. And when that happens, I can't focus. Like I couldn't hear a damn thing. Yeah.

So I have no idea what happened this week. Yeah. And then it's all jumbled for me. You know, it all blends. I forgot the reunion. Were you happy with the wedding scenes? The wedding looks absolutely beautiful. I do wish it was longer.

I wish there was more because like I said, you're not going to see the after party. And that's just crazy to me. So yeah, I will have my personal wedding video that I don't know how long it's going to be. It's getting edited right now. Great. But even if it's an hour long, that is going to go fully on Patreon.

So you guys can sign up for my Patreon to see all the exclusive content. I will be posting the after party. But I'm going to release that as the episodes air because right now I'm just in VPR overload and I'm like, wait, what's this week? Join the club. What's next week? So another bomb is going to drop. Obviously, I won't say what.

Wait, what? During your wedding, I think another bomb is going to drop. Oh, right, with the missing for three hours? No, not that one. Another one. Wait. Look forward to that. What?

Yeah. Which one? I'm not going to say it. Hold on. You're like, wait a second. Even I'm trying to recall. I think the T's get into my head. When I said to you, is this secret revealed?

And you said yes, but not the scene. But it comes out. I don't remember. Oh, boy. Stay tuned. Yeah. Okay. I'll tell you afterwards. But you know what? Nobody needs any more shocking bombs

to drop. I can't take it. I can't take it anymore. And I think that's why this mundane issue of my hotel room has gotten people talking because it's like, you know what? Here's something that is not shocking, so relatable. And you know what? Maybe we just

need some good, wholesome storyline that is not going to shake me to the core. And that's how did Jamie's room get canceled? Well, it's not Jamie's room. It's Sheena's bridesmaid's room. You know, but it's like, okay, the long story short, your credit card you put

down for the deposit back in April when I was quote unquote bullying everyone to book their room. No, you were informing people of a deadline. Literally. Like get it together or get out. And a deadline. Exactly. Jamie put her credit card down. The three, four months later when the second half of it went to come out, that credit card expired. So it just declined the payment and they didn't contact her to put a new form of payment down. They just canceled her room. So then when she goes to rebook her room, they're like, sorry, at this point now production has taken an entire room block of like 50, 75 rooms or whatever. The resort is fully sold out.

I think there was also two other weddings that week. There actually legitimately was not one room available. Wow. So I was like, hey, I'm gonna offer Katie, above asking price of her room, I said in the scene, I will Venmo you $1,000 right now. Give me the room. And she wouldn't do it. And I'm like,

you don't even want to be there. Why are you making this so difficult when you don't want to be there? I need the room. Her excuse was, it was a non-refundable deposit. I'm like, I'm fixing it. It was also Christina Kelly's birthday, and she wanted to take a vacation anyway. Again, perspective. I did not know any of this at the time.

You weren't close with Christina at that moment. No, but you will see it was actually on that trip in Mexico. She comes to my room. It's a very brief second you see of it, but her and I had a really good conversation, and in that moment, we have been friends ever since. Love her. And I love her. Congratulations to her.

Congratulations. Baby River. So cute. River, Summer, Ocean. And River and Ocean have the same birthday. Really? How cool is that? It's the 15th.

Yeah, and it's my dad's birthday, my great-grandpa's birthday. Such a good day to be born. Yes. Congratulations to Christina Kelly. I feel like that is a good, happy place to wrap it up here. Yes. Congrats.

Yeah. Congratulations. You're a gem. All right. Oh, and to Max because, you know, people are— He did it, too. No, people have been making it a point to be like, yeah, well, congrats

to the father too because I just made the post about Christina Kelly. Like, I don't want to blast his IG. Well, yeah. I'm being respectful. I think he's private.

I'm being respectful over here. But, you know, babies are such a blessing. Happy to have another one in this world. Shares a birthday with Ocean. Congrats to Christina Kelly. Thank you guys so much

for listening. Hopefully next week we're getting into some shenanigans with Jackson Brittany, but stay tuned. Nothing is scheduled yet, so I don't know what I'm doing. Bye. Bye. Sheena Shea. Shea FK.

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