Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Berning in Hell with Hannah Berner

Episode Date: January 7, 2020

Bravo’s Summer House star Hannah Berner is getting into Scheananigans with Scheana and Jamie talking about the show, her podcast Berning in Hell, how dating changes after success, her stand...up career, and some blackout brunches. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Hulu has the TV you love. Only $5.99 a month. From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hey everyone. Happy New Year. It's 2020. Can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Back in studio, we have a fun guest today and an awesome co-host. My girl, Jamie Lynn, is back in studio with me. I'm back in studio. We have a fun guest today and an awesome co-host. My girl Jamie Lynn is back in studio with me. I'm back. Yeah, and from Summer House, Miss Hannah Berner. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. I'm excited. Yes, I know. Cool to see you in LA. I know. I met Sheena. Do you remember how we met back in the day?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Betches. Betches. I interviewed you. You were like in a weird place with Rob. And I remember the Betches were like, you got to ask her. You got to get to it. But when I was talking to her, I was like, bitch, this girl's been through some shit. Like, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:02:33 She's like, I don't know what's going to happen. He might be the one for me. And I was like, girl, whatever. Well, the Rob thing came full circle. Yes. Oh, my God. We've already told the story on the podcast, so I don't want to, like, bore my listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But long story short, we ran, me and my- Are you married now? No, no, no. Oh, my God. It got out. Oh, God. I'm pregnant with a baby. No, but my boyfriend and I ran into Rob recently at a music festival.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And I'll tell you the story after. But it was just like the perfect way you want it to go when you run into your ex. Oh, I love it. Like a movie. Like a movie, literally. Like I was telling Kristen this story this weekend. Like you looked hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Oh, yeah. We were at a music festival. Like it was so good. You were just like living your best life. See, I feel like my life in New York, like I see my ex when I'm like at a bodega at 2 a.m. after I was crying and then I'm eating bacon, egg and cheese. You're like, I'm great. I'm great.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm good. I don't need you. And he's with his hot new girlfriend. But I love that for you. And I love that you're in a relationship. I didn't even know that. I know. It's so new.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It literally happened so quickly. I'm just like, there are friends of mine who i haven't seen since september and they're like wait you have a boyfriend like what is going on i'm like i can't keep up with you girl fucking weird but that was the thing i was like whenever someone came along to make me you know want to stop being single and stop with all the other guys i'm like okay this might be the one so was it when you weren't looking like the corny? Hundred percent. Oh, I hate that. I was so content in my single life. Literally.
Starting point is 00:04:09 There's like when you don't want it. And I'm like, but if I don't want it, I stay at home and pet my cat all the time. So yeah, we're both. I do that too. And you found someone. Okay. So you make me believe in the world again. Go to music festivals.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Actually, I don't do drugs. I was like, you guys, I'm going to bed. Nothing good is going to happen after 2 a.m. And that's when she meets her boyfriend. Yeah. Crazy. Wow, you are an enigma. But I love that. I love that for you. I feel like, I don't know, dating in New York City and dating in L.A.
Starting point is 00:04:37 is, I think, both very difficult. Because everything's like next best thing attitude. There's so many people. Yeah. So many hot, funny, smart, successful people. Well, in New York, they're successful. In L.A., they're still trying to figure it out. They're like 31 years old thinking they're going to make it as an actor. Three roommates.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. Are we talking about the same person? Probably. Sheena, do you ever feel like your success has hurt you at all 100 i think that that's the thing like with brock he has his shit together he sounds hot oh he sounds like a hot male cheerleader he looks like aquaman and thor had a baby oh my god jason momoa is my crush carry me around like a baby yeah like he'll get carded all the time. He does not look under 21 by any means.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But he'll get carded because... But he's 18? Yes. He's 29. But, like, he'll get carded because the bartender wants to see if his name is Jason Momoa. Wait, does he have long hair? Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:40 His hair's a little longer. It's about the same length as mine. Mine's grown so much. But, yeah, long hair, the beard, everything. His is a little fuller, I think. Yeah. Sorry. His hair's a little longer. It's about the same length as mine. Mine's grown so much. But yeah, long hair, the beard, everything. His is a little fuller, I think. Yeah. Sorry. His is better volume.
Starting point is 00:05:49 His hair is better than mine. I don't love that. I can't date a guy who has better eyebrows than me. His eyebrows are better than mine. And his eyelashes. Oh, I hate these fucking dudes. We spend so much time making sure our eyes look gorgeous and our eyelashes. And these dudes just fall out of the womb.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah. With perfect eyelashes. No, I'm like, every morning, I'm like, like this is not fair you wake up and look like that you know how much work i gotta put into this it is not fair like he'll facetime me before we're going to bed and then i'm like but you still look and now i'm like glasses no it's just oh but whatever but i will say yeah new york impossible la impossible san L.A., impossible. San Diego, not so much. And what's crazy is the last, like, Rob was from San Diego. Max was from San Diego.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I'm like, I keep getting drawn to these San Diego men, but I'm like, I think this one's going to stick. Is Brock San Diego? He lives in San Diego, yeah. Okay, I've been doing it all wrong. I also, I started seeing this. I love, first of all, I love being part of the Bravo family with you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And I, I started seeing this guy, I'm in, I'm doing comedy now. I started doing standup comedy. Yeah. I want to get into that. And he's a standup, but he lives and he's so hot. He's six, seven. If a guy's tall, um, I don't care. And he's, I was like, he is 30.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He lives, he lives with his parents, but they're in Connecticut. So let's see. I don't know. I'm 28 now. So, and it's like this awkward thing where I feel like, damn, I'm finally doing well in my career. I've dated such successful dudes when I had no job. Girl.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And now that I have it like shit going on. Now I like have a smaller pack of guys I can choose from. It's fucked. I say this all the time. I'm like, how was I a cocktail waitress banging John Mayer? And then I'm 34 on a successful television show banging a bar back. What is wrong with me? That literally is how it happens.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's how it happens. Yeah. It's really crazy, but I don't know. I feel like I can't stop what I'm doing. But now also with reality TV, a lot of guys in New York are finance dudes. So they're like, I can't go on a TV show. So it's like, I hope we're filming again this summer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And if we are, it's like, it really affects your love life so much. It really does. And it could speed up an attraction, but it also can end one real quick. Oh, totally. I just feel like you understand me in that way. Absolutely. And that's why I'm so anti-dating apps because it's like, I don't know if someone's swiping right because they want to get on Vanderpump Rules because they think I have money because,
Starting point is 00:08:16 you know, it's like, I just, I've never done them. I've met people the old fashioned way. And I mean, so far it's worked out. Hopefully this one, you know, is the one. That's smart of you. But no one has ever treated me the way that Brock is with me. Like, it's just, it's crazy. I've never felt like so loved. What's his sign? What's your sign? I'm a Taurus. He's a Gemini. I like that. I think. Yeah. I'm not sure. I love Gemini guys. Yeah. And I've never dated one. They have great personalities. They're like affectionate. Like they have an affectionate side.
Starting point is 00:08:45 A lot of them have a party side, too. Like, they can be fun, but also cool. Yeah, 100%. That's him. Ooh, I like him for you. Yeah, like, he's super, like, work-driven, but then we go to festivals and just party our asses off. Like, in the three months we've been together, we've been to, what, four festivals?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Four or five, yeah. Yeah, Caboo. Crossed. Crossed. And then Intersect. Intersect. Wonderfront. She's made me laugh. Jamie's been in all of them with me. I've been there, too. four or five yeah yeah kaboo um crossed and then uh intersect intersect wonderfront jamie's been in all of them with me yeah i just strongly follow everything sheena does yeah because you don't you can't even follow yourself on instagram now she deleted her instagram no but she's she's following me to san diego now she's dating um a guy in san diego she
Starting point is 00:09:24 just got a job offer in San Diego. I mean, that's where the men are. Let's move to San Diego. Wait, so you live in, where do you live right now? Marina Del Rey. Okay, I just remember Vanderpump, everyone lost their damn mind when you moved to Marina Del Rey. I know, so then I bought a house in Palm Springs
Starting point is 00:09:39 and I'm like, now you have to drive even further. Fuck you. I want to say real quick before we get into it i probably told you this when i first met you but i always will love you because i was going through the worst breakup of my life like one of those where like you can't just be stuck with your own thoughts because it's like spiraling and repeating yeah just like in a dark place and i work my little butt off at work get home get under the covers, and turn on Vanderpump Rules. And I started it from season one. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And I just fucking, like, do you know when you just get lost in it? Yeah. And you're just like, I need to be with my friends who don't know who I am and watch, like, their shit. And, like, Sheena's relationship going up and down, all those woes, like, you're just, like, you just put yourself out there more than anyone. And it's funny because you totally could be the, like, hot girl who's too cool for everything. Yeah. But you put it all out there, and it's funny because you totally could be the like hot girl who's too cool for everything yeah but you put it all out there and it makes people fucking understand you more
Starting point is 00:10:30 and connect to you so it's crazy i'm sitting here with you now as like a bravo person right but like you helped me through that breakup and i just want to say thank you well good thank you because that's we're here today that's literally like the reason why I do what I do and put it all out there is just so people can relate and know that, like, okay, well, if this girl can do it in front of the whole world, like, I can do it in the privacy of, like, my own home. Preach. Even just dealing with my husband's addiction, the divorce, the rob, the, like, all that. And my girls can relate to me because it's, like, I mean, yeah, you see the worst parts of me on the show. You don't see a lot of like the cool fun side which is frustrating but i'm like but those annoying like sides a lot
Starting point is 00:11:10 of girls are like that where they're just like so obsessed with the guy and all about and it's like it's so annoying everyone relates to you i know that they like definitely cut it to show like all the times you talk about rob and put it in a one minute but it's like that's when I fucking like someone. Are you fucking kidding me? Like, every conversation, I'm like, oh, well, Matthew loves salads, too. Or like, oh, well, Matthew used to live there, too. And I just, well, it's what's top of mind.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. And it was adorable and hilarious. Well, thanks. I'm glad I can make someone laugh. But, okay, so speaking of being relatable and, like, you know, fans reaching out and whatnot, there was, there's a girl, her name's Catherine Wright, and you did a video for her. It was one of the things on Greenfly that they sent us. She's 28 years old, and about two months ago they gave her one to two months to live.
Starting point is 00:12:01 She has cancer. It's terrible. She is an incredible writer i've read so many of her blogs she has this morbid humor that is just fucking hilarious hysterical yeah i sent her um a video a couple weeks ago and then the facebook group i sent it to they gave me her best friend's email so then through her best friend rochelle i was like communicating i went on amazon prime and i like sent a few things to her that like she had mentioned in her blog she loves like
Starting point is 00:12:30 nancy drew books and like this mary kate and ashley movie and so so cute i put together this like care package and i was like i mean i wanted it to be like really cute but i was like i mean i don't know how much time she has so i wanted to get to her as soon as possible. They gave me her address, the Amazon Prime, the stuff to her. And then I found out the day before it arrived, she went to the hospital. And I just found out this morning she's out of the hospital. She was like in the hospice. She's at home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. But she's at home right now, literally texting me. That's amazing. Right now. And I wanted to read you what one of her texts was because i said i was like i said i'm having hannah burner on my podcast today she's like oh my god she's like you can tell hannah that i live for her tweets oh my god you're making me cry right now but it's just like that just her blogs that i was reading and just like there was one thing where um
Starting point is 00:13:22 her best friend michelle was telling me they were like on facetime and they were just like laughing at something and katherine was like oh my god i'm dying and her friend was like i know she has the same like dark humor as i do and i think it's crazy how the bravo community has come like bravo connects people because i feel like we all have similar sense of humor yeah and we all understand that life can be dark and sad. And the fact that this woman could be any of us right now. And she's doing it with such a positive, beautiful spin. And just being so funny while also being in this sad place. But like, we all love you, Catherine.
Starting point is 00:13:58 We're here for you. And you're the shit. I'm going to send that to her right now. Just a little video. So I asked her. I was like, you know, I do know a few people on Bravo. Is there anyone who hasn't reached out that you want to get a video from? And she's like, Carl's such a fuckboy, but I love him. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I was like, done. And she's like, and I love the Toms. If anyone. So I texted, I just group chatted the Toms and Carl was like, I need you to do this video. And Carl was like, I'm driving. I can't get it to you tonight. When do you need it by? I was like, ASAP.
Starting point is 00:14:32 ASAP. Obviously. Do it in the car. Figure it out. Sheena does her fucking eyelashes in the car. You could do a video. Yeah. So I'm getting those.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I'm going to send those to her today. That's so sweet of you, Sheena. She just wanted me to tell you that she lives for your tweets. It makes me really happy. I know. And I just was so thankful that I at least saw these messages in time to reach out. Yeah. Because, I mean, especially around the holidays, it's just, ugh.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Okay, we're going to go back to happy times. Otherwise, I'm going to start crying. No, but the holidays, they're happy. You reflect on life, but 2020 is a new year. It is. And even though it's all socially constructed, it's really just the next day. But it's nice to feel like you have a refresh. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. 2020, the year of, as I'm saying, do better. Everyone's like, clear vision. I'm like, just do better. Do you know how often when I first got the call for Summer House, how often my friend would just go, we'd get on a call and I'd be like, I'm so excited, what's happening? This is crazy, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:15:37 She'd just go, it's all happening. Yes, I love that. Because that's what life feels like. That statement is what life feels like like that that statement is what life feels like when like your crush texts you when like you get the job you want when you're just like on your grind when you feel an alignment of yourself it's just like it's all fucking happening yeah exactly one thing that makes you happy it's everything around you no totally the energies you surround yourself with yeah so i have that tattoo to my ass now i'm just kidding
Starting point is 00:16:03 i love this tattoo it's so good i'm just kidding i need to i love this tattoo it's so good i saw it when you sat down and i was like oh my god iconic yeah it's my favorite so recently someone had commented something about it and they're like i don't know if it was whatever picture it was they commented they're like oh yeah i bet she's regretting that tattoo now that she's divorced and da da da da da and i'm like I bet she's regretting that tattoo now that she's divorced and da-da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, regretting a tattoo that's a quote from my favorite movie of all time that is still relevant all the time. No. No, I don't regret it.
Starting point is 00:16:33 No. Do you regret any of your tattoos? I don't want to regret any of them because I don't like to live with regrets. I like to, you know, live and learn. Come on, Sheena. Live, laugh, love. However, this one right here it's ironic i wish this one was more of the fine lines like this one is so my live laugh love
Starting point is 00:16:52 on my ribs that one i'm thinking of removing only because it's not fine lines anymore can you see it yeah and i don't hate it though i don't hate it but i I would prefer something more thin. And then on my back, I have a Britney Spears tramp stamp fairy. See, it's iconic. Exactly. It's iconic. But I'm like, it's so big. And at the time when I was 18 and I was in this little goth phase, I got my nose pierced,
Starting point is 00:17:24 like 10 piercings in my ears. I had my nailced okay like I was going all out I dyed my hair black it was all happening yeah I was upset with my boyfriend I was like I'm getting a tattoo it says fuck Brian yeah but and then there's like another one I have right here which was a hibiscus flower is the first one I got for my grandpa after he passed away. But then I added to it, and then I added to it, and then I was like, why did I add to it? It was perfect the way it was. But that's funny to see how your brain changes over time. Things that you like, you don't like anymore. Respective changes, and it's like a symbol of how we evolve over time.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, and then you know what I realized about three years ago one night? So this one on my left inner wrist, I have my initials, Sheena Marie, and then a star. At first, I got a star when I moved to Hollywood because I was like, I want to be a star one day. And then a couple years later, I added my initials. I was like, and I want to make a name for myself. Lame. Whatever. Drunk at a gifting suite, fast forward about seven years, Kristen and I were like, let's get matching tattoos.
Starting point is 00:18:23 We both love music. So we get this. What's it fucking called? A music symbol. It's like a treble clap. I don't know. Whatever. The music. G clap. Yeah, whatever. The one that looks like an S. And I was like, oh, S for Rashida. The pretty one. But look, this one
Starting point is 00:18:40 faces me and this one faces you. Oh, you know what? And I didn't realize it for years you're imperfectly perfect yeah thank you so yeah so you know there's some things that i would maybe tweak but um they're they're on me and what about you do you have any i have no tattoos i'm such a loser did you ever get one i'm like it's almost to the point where it's like, I don't, I haven't even, I've never done cocaine. And I feel like it's like, I'm 28 now. Like, it's not
Starting point is 00:19:09 cool if I do it. Like, if I did it when I was 20, it's still kind of cool. Now it's like, if I like it, now I like cocaine. I'm in the same position. Yeah. So, like, it's like, if I like tattoos, then I have to get a sleeve. And then I'm like, it's not even cool. I'm just like, yeah, I, like, get addicted to other things. Yeah, that.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's me. So stay away from cocaine and needles. It's great advice, kids. She's like, okay. But yeah, so I don't have any tattoos. But I feel like if I like, if some event happened, maybe. But I feel like I wouldn't just get one. I'd want to get a ton.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I have one. And I always said I would never get a tattoo. Yeah. What do you have? Okay. So it was on a deer and I was blindfolded it was in the west village at 4 a.m yeah just to preface i feel like i know the place in my head it's like near saint mark's no that's east village oh in the west village yeah yeah so i wish i went to east village it would have been so much cooler i would have had a much better tattoo on me than I do right now. I'm envisioning me as a comedy seller. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Okay. So, like I said, it was a dare and it was with that friend that you were like, how did you and Sheena meet? Mutual friend who she's no longer friends with. So, she and I, this ex-friend of mine have the same tattoo on us. So, every day I look at her and I have to think of her. But it kind of just makes me think, like, just don't
Starting point is 00:20:23 take life too seriously because it's hilarious. Yeah. So I just want to go through the stages of getting this tattoo real quick. Yeah. So we blindfolded ourselves. So the first one I picked was a skull with cornrows with a Confederate flag behind it. Wait, wait. You blindfolded yourselves to randomly guess a tattoo that you're going to put on your body permanently for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yes. And my first and only tattoo, mind you. Okay. Okay, so I was like, you know what, let's do best of two. Yeah. The confederate flag. Yeah. Yeah. So the next one was just like this bomb, like on fire, and I was just like, that's like really lame too. And we were like, okay, best of three.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So I picked the sign for Sagittarius. So it's like this cute girl, so this is what we have, you know, I'm not a Sagittarius, she's not for Sagittarius. So it's like this cute girl. So this is what we have. You know, I'm not a Sagittarius. She's not a Sagittarius. It's this like centaur girl. Like she's like half little like horse. She's got a ponytail.
Starting point is 00:21:13 She's a bone arrow shooting at the moon. And so like we finished this. And then my friend was like, okay, now we have to get the initials KT underneath that stands for kamikaze tattoo. So you can't ever say like you got this for someone who's a Sagittarius I'm like not that I would because this story is amazing and this is the story I want to tell but okay so it's a Sagittarius with KT underneath so I'm like okay now I just need to meet a guy with the initials KT who's a Sagittarius uh-huh and we're searching yeah well so far you're not on the right track where is it how big is it um it's on my hip bone and it's like i don't know like maybe like three two or three inches so whenever anyone goes what is that you tell them that um it's it's really not
Starting point is 00:21:58 visible so it's like you have to be like really close to me to see it yeah so when a guy's going down you have to be like really close to me to see it yeah so when a guy's going down he's like oh i don't like sagittarius and you're like don't worry i'm not i'm not sorry we're still compatible don't worry keep going it's so funny but yeah i feel like new york city tattoos are really like cool right now yeah and everyone's just like they have those like really thin little ones that everyone gets their fingers. The fingers are really cool right now. And yeah, like that looks fucking sick. But a lot of people are getting them on top of their fingers. Yeah, on top.
Starting point is 00:22:29 My friend just said that. And you get tons of rings. Yeah. And you're just like, you look like the coolest, like, I don't know. Yeah, I think I'm finger tattooed out. I've run out of fingers and I don't want to do, I mean, I might, who knows, get married again one day. So I don't want to fuck up my left hand just in case. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But. And also you're in a creative space right now like we're reality tv rock stars yeah so i could do whatever the fuck i want and they're like that's great except change your hair color during filming yeah actually yeah the hair they don't fuck with the hair it's like so and i keep my nails the same color all year like and my hair i'm like when do i get to cut it oh it's almost it's almost reunion time i get to change my hair that one time a year we actually i've never done a reunion yet oh i'm hoping that this year we'll get one we don't know yet but it's funny because like we film and then during the year we all hang out we're all like new york's a pretty small place
Starting point is 00:23:18 and like i'm in a fight with one of them i'm like another one's annoying me like new shit we're never we never stop the drama. Yeah. And I'm like so ready for a reunion if we have one. Yes. But then we also have a group chat where like when something goes down, we all like get back together and we like have each other's backs. And that's how we are too. It's like even when you're mad at someone, you still like you love them.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You're all in this ride together. You are. But yeah, it really is family I feel like. But it's also. Dysfunctional. Yes. And our show show is only the we just filmed the fourth season so we're not near the like amount of episodes you guys have and we just started experience like summer house wasn't that popular until i'd say like last season started to get a little until you and page came on i mean let's be real it's the first season i've ever watched full through.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You watched it? Yeah, every episode. She knew that means so much to me. Yeah, but only because of you girls. Like, love you, Carl and Kyle, but they couldn't carry the whole show themselves. But when you two came on, I was like, I'm going to watch every episode, and I did. Thank you. It is really like a chemistry thing. Like, everyone adds to it, and sometimes you just need to put a new mix to make things work.
Starting point is 00:24:24 We did that this year too. Oh, but the thing is, it's hard. I realized for the first time now, like you get really protective of what you created. And this was the first summer that like random girls started hitting the guys up to like, to like come to parties or like be in scenes.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And there you realize like they're planning on like getting on the show. And we never like last season, no one was like, no one knew what was going on. No one even knew we were filming. So we're just starting to deal with people hitting us up or trying to be friends and dating to get on the show, which is, you guys must deal. Because also, you're in L.A. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:24:56 If you can't make, if, everyone's trying to get on TV in some capacity. I know. And it's like reality TV doesn't have that negative stigma that it used to have so everyone wants to be on it. Do you feel like when you first started it had that stigma? I think it was right in the transitional period. Yeah. Like it was like right after the Hills but like right around
Starting point is 00:25:16 when Beverly Hills Housewives had just started so it was like a transitional time I felt like. It was like a good time to get on TV. Were you afraid that if you went on reality TV, sorry I turned into re-engineering. I'm so conscious. I'm going to get you on Burning Hell my podcast next time we're in the city. It's going to be so
Starting point is 00:25:32 fun but we're going to burn in hell together. I feel like, did you feel like you had to give up other dreams if you went on reality TV but they were following your career too. They were. They don't anymore but they were. So yeah I mean in the beginning like with acting i was still auditioning and stuff but then it became do you want sheena from vanderpump rules representing your product and starring in your show or do you want just you know a no-name actress
Starting point is 00:25:56 so that kind of got put on hold but then also came full circle and i headlined a show in las vegas yeah so it you know it's kind of, it just depends. It's so awesome. And I feel, I don't know, I feel like reality TV gives you the exposure to then do what you really want to do. Yeah, like this podcast. I mean, there's been so many opportunities that I've gotten from doing the show. But also, you know, there's a lot of things that it holds you back from,
Starting point is 00:26:20 especially a successful relationship. Oh, my God. Yeah. holds you back from especially a successful relationship oh my god yeah but okay wait i want to get into some more stuff with you um so okay tell me about your podcast and i'll actually be in new york next month perfect or well in january yeah so perfect i record in soho we'll make it happen yeah um i'd love to have you on yes okay so burning, so Burning in Hell. It's called Burning in Hell, B-E-R-N. It's like a pun for my name. It's not like a weird devil cult. But when I started working for Betches, I was meeting a lot of celebrities, entrepreneurs,
Starting point is 00:26:53 and I was like, I want to talk to these people about their dark shit. We look up to them so much. I want to know what makes them insecure, what keeps them up at night, their anxieties, their fears. And it became this fun comedy podcast where I just like get really dark, but we laugh about everything. Yeah. And it's been great because I got my first live show from Burning in Hell at Caroline's in New York City.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, wow. And my friend was like, do 10 minutes of stand-up. Yeah. And I was like, no. And she was like, do it. And I'm like, no. And she's like, you have so many funny tweets. Like, you write jokes all the time. Yeah. The thing thing is I dated a stand-up comic for like a year and you know when you feel
Starting point is 00:27:30 like it's kind of like his thing right and he was so good at it and I was like he's gonna make fun of me what then I finally was like fuck the dude fuck my fears and the first time I did stand-up was in front of 250 people at Caroline oh wow and it was such a high and like i've done things like i was a tennis player where like i'd get really bad performance anxiety like you know when you you know what you want to do and you get up there and you just your brain plays tricks on you i literally got up there and my i felt like i was talking to someone over coffee like i was so calm and the crowd was great wow and after that after that I was like, ooh, I found my like new creative outlet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So I've been, I have my podcast. I've been doing standup at night and then Summer House is airing February 5th. So I like, I feel inspired by you and a lot of the interpump cast and how I've seen your careers grow. Cause like you can't, your personality is your personality and people love it. Right. And then you kind of figure out ways to make it bigger and make it your own yeah so yeah that's my update love that okay so wait february 5th what day of the week is that that's so we're wednesday at 9 p.m we got a new time slot okay see same with us we're tuesdays 9 p.m
Starting point is 00:28:40 see you know things is that good is that good for us? See, that's the thing. Because you've been bopped around, haven't you? I think that it's good that we're not on Mondays anymore because The Bachelor premieres January 6th. Bachelor, Bachelor. Yeah, Bachelor. Yeah. So that was one thing.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Dancing with the Stars, The Voice, Monday Night Football. So much competition. There was like a lot of things on Mondays. So, I mean, we've been on the air for, this is now our eighth year. Holy eighth year so seven years we were on mondays i guess we'll see what it's like to be on tuesdays but yeah it's weird because i keep thinking like monday and then like oh watch it happens live you know like you fly out on the weekend you do it on monday i'm like wait now it's on tuesday now it's like it just it's so fun talking to you because no one you can't explain to other people the weirdness of reality TV. No. You can't.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then I remember I was talking to Stassi once and I was like, isn't it weird? And she looked at me and she goes, yeah, it's weird. And I was like, oh my God, Vanderpump thinks it's weird. Yes. But it's because we live in this like, it's a new reality that we're in. When people are like, is it real? It's like, yeah, it's real. It's a real new reality that we've created for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. And then reliving it is going to be fun i'm really this next season fun i mean that's the word you used to describe when i say when i say fun it's a multiple yeah exactly it's gonna be so much fun as in oh my god i can't it's such a mix of emotion you're so new still. That's cute. You think it's fun. I said it with a piece of sarcasm as in it's like, it's so absurd. Yeah. It's so absurd.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Do you ever watch it with other cast members? We used to do it all the time. Like the first couple seasons, we were so into doing like viewing parties. Yeah. Like I would do like either at the parlor or at Busby's, I would have a private room. Oh my God. And we would do like these big parties every week, and it was just a reason to have a party. Yeah, you just want a drink.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But after, like, season three and, like, the wedding and then shit started getting really real, that was completely ended. Yeah. And it's like, you know, you get the episode ahead of time. Yep, you know what's about to happen. So sometimes I don't want to, but then I think it was last year, just with, like, some people, I would have them over at my place and would watch it sometimes. Usually only
Starting point is 00:30:48 when one of our cast is on Watch What Happens Live After because that's live and I want to see that. You're supporting it. Do you live tweet? So I'm going to this year so actually you guys if you want to text me I'm going to be texting you guys every Tuesday
Starting point is 00:31:04 my number is 310-299-9324. Oh, damn. It is really me. I am really responding. So go ahead and text me. But I'm trying to do more interactive things this year because I don't even know how I'm going to look this year. And honestly, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:22 This was my year of giving zero fucks. Fuck yeah. I always try and protect myself like keep a little bit private and it fucks me over every time. It doesn't do me any favors. And by the end of this summer, I just like, it's sad and probably embarrassing, but I just completely broke down at a birthday party. And I was just like, you don't know what it's like to wake up alone every day. Like you guys are on relationships and I'm not. And I was just like, but I't know what it's like to wake up alone every day. Like, you guys are on relationships and I'm not. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's epic. But I just, like, lost my shit. But then they're like, wow. That was, like, very vulnerable and real. I'm like, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Like, I have nothing to lose. That's what they do. They're pushing you.
Starting point is 00:31:57 They push you to your limit. They did. When I started Summer House, I was like, I'm not going to snap. I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to lose it. This is hilarious. Week 10, if someone breathed at me the wrong way, I was like, I'm not going to snap. I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to lose it. This is hilarious. Week 10, if someone breathed at me the wrong way, I was like, fuck you. I was snapping at everyone.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Because you get pushed past your mental, emotional limits. No, totally. But I think it's great that you broke down because everyone can relate to that. But I think I'm probably going to break down in every episode this season. She was like, that was one of 40. I want to do a drinking game with everyone where it's like every time sheena cries take a drink you're gonna be fucking shit-faced is your boy toy on no no thank god i met him right after we wrapped oh great yeah i mean next year if you know we have a season nine who knows we'll see but um he will not be
Starting point is 00:32:41 on the show this year i do date a little bit but I try to stay as far away from that this season. And it just, like, this one guy, this new cast member, just, like, he kept, like, everyone was, like, trying to push us, and we, like, made out, like, once briefly. And then it was just, like, he, in the first episode, said he's, like, doing his interview.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And he's like, yeah, Sheena and I hooked up. And I was like, excuse me. Okay, Carl on Watch What Happens Live. We did not hook up. We made out for five seconds, blackout drunk in my kitchen. And I was there. Yes. I was there for that, too.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You have a witness. And he didn't even remember it. For weeks, I was like, do we, like, say anything? Like, we just started filming. And he's like, honestly, he's like, I don't remember. And I was like, okay, it's fine. Like, no big deal. You don't remember. We're just friends. I was like, I deal you don't remember we're just friends i was like i'm not gonna start
Starting point is 00:33:27 banging my friend again i did that last year didn't work out so well so i'm like so anti doing that and so um nothing else happened at all you'll see how it plays out the rest of the season but then in the first episode he's in his interview like the first two minutes and he says um he's like yeah sheena and i hooked up and i'm like okay it wasn't hook up he's like we were out one night she invited us back to her place to play scattergories and everyone thinks that's like code and i'm like no legitimately i play scattergories that's my thing everyone knows that i'm ranked number one like pasta is really pasta scattergories is really scattergories so so So he's like, and he's like, and we made out. And he's like, and it wasn't what I expected.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No offense to her. What? And then my producer, you hear his voice. And he goes, are you saying she was a bad kisser? And he goes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And I'm like, fuck you, motherfucker. First you said. Is he 12 years old?
Starting point is 00:34:24 He's like 31. But I'm like, first you don you said 12 years old he's like 31 but I'm like first you don't remember it and now you remember it was bad like I'm sorry I think the majority of the cast not the men but the women can all attest to that being false also coming in as a new cast member and saying something like that about the OGs like you better watch yourself I remember when I was in high school in New Year's, a guy tried to kiss me and I, like, wasn't into it. And I kind of, like, was like, no, thank you. And then he told the whole, everyone in the school that I was a bad kisser. That was, like, heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You know when you're younger, you're like, you don't know if you're a good kisser. And you're like, I don't know. So that's some bullshit. That's some immature bullshit. And I'm over him. I'm already over him. Me too. Literally, like, I sent him the longest text after I saw it, and he's like, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And then he's, like, trying to say, like, oh, I was manipulated into saying it. I was like, no, no, you weren't. You literally laughed. You can't tell that to an OG. Yeah. Because we know what's going on. No one's manipulating you. You literally said it.
Starting point is 00:35:15 You laughed, and you said it. Like, just own it. And so then we're at BravoCon, and I'm like, cool, we have our Vanderpump Rules party. Yeah. They're showing this episode in front of, like, 2,500 people. Yeah. And I was, like, so mortified. Did they show the whole episode?
Starting point is 00:35:28 The whole episode. Yeah. Oh, my God. But everyone... And it sucks because you can't, like, say something back in the interview. No. Because I... But I'm, like, I'm hoping as the season plays out, like, there are other cast members I
Starting point is 00:35:41 make out with this season. Yes. Yes. Stay tuned. Also... Gay Pride. Yeah, there was a lot of making out gay pride is always insane i live for those episodes yeah everyone gets so ratchet there's a lot of making out on gay pride so i'm hoping that like and honestly i'm not hoping i don't really give a fuck my boyfriend knows i'm an amazing kisser and so do many other people but it's also so insecure of him to like start off by like putting a dig at you yeah and i'm like oh bro it makes it sound like he got rejected yeah exactly it makes it sound yeah oh i can't
Starting point is 00:36:16 wait to watch oh yeah okay well okay back to you so jamie was telling me that she saw a funny, was it a story she told of the blackout one? Yes. Where was it? I want to hear the story of your brunch blackout. When? Which one? I was like that. Perfect response.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I heard you saying something that you were hosting an event or a brunch. Oh, yeah. And you were kind of nervous because it was about you or you were having to host a bunch of people. So you got blackout. Yeah. But what I love most about that whole story is because it's very relatable, which you said, you know, your true friends when they see you blackout and they're still friends with you the next day. I actually had my first like it was a mental health charity brunch that i was throwing and i was like let's black out like there were so many things about it that i was like unsure of
Starting point is 00:37:15 um and it was like we had this little vip section where my friends were and then there were just people around and i guess like people were kind of just staring at us and this was very early on on summer house and I guess and I started seeing this new guy my brother came my roommates were there and I started drinking apparently I was a great host I was so excited to see everybody and I was like trying to kiss one of my roommates who was straight um and then I was like dancing on random people and then the guy I was seeing apparently was like not happy. And I was like, I'm a host. I'm a hostess. And then he actually was like, we have to, we're leaving.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Like we left the brunch early. And it was the last day of Game of Thrones, like the finale of Game of Thrones, which I slept through the whole time. I basically got home. He fed me like a good boyfriend. And then I passed out from like 5 p.m. The great thing about blacking out during brunch is you wake up fresh as a daisy. Because you could go to bed at a decent hour. You go to bed at 6.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You just need to hydrate. Yeah. And then in the morning, I'm like, thanks for coming, everyone. They're like, we had a great time. Isn't it scary, though? Because you're like, who was that? Is that my subconscious just taking over?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Like who's talking to all of these people? Because she's done it where I tell her things the next day and she's like, that was drunk, Jamie. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:31 how do you not remember that? Like literally, you were so like, that's the scary shit. When like you're looking so, I think my best friends know in my eyes
Starting point is 00:38:40 when I'm gone, when it's like the lights are on but no one's home. They know. But it's like scary. Oh, it's one's home they know it's like scary oh it's very scary who is that talking who because what if you like start a fight with someone it's like do that does that person have my back also they have my best the worst part was that normally when you're blackout like other people are on your similar level no one was on my level
Starting point is 00:38:59 no it was like a casual brunch and I was like wake wake up. I'm about to help. Just to clarify, I don't get blackout like often, Sheena. No, no, no. She doesn't. But when she does, she starts reading people's auras. Oh my gosh. She's a psychic. I become a mediocre psychic when I'm drunk. Can you read people's auras?
Starting point is 00:39:18 I can. Okay. Real quick. Real quick. I was in San Diego last weekend and I've discovered that it takes exactly five vodka shots for me to become psychic but still coherent because I remembered all of this. That is amazing. So I go
Starting point is 00:39:32 up to this stranger. Because it's all your subconscious. Yes, right? So I just go up to this guy and he was wearing this gold chain with like some sort of medallion on it and I don't know who I think I am but I just go up to him and I held the chain as if I'm like an actual legit psychic feeling like energies. That's your moves.
Starting point is 00:39:48 She's like, let me touch your dick. Yeah, I'm sensing green and blue. Now you have a boner. So I'm feeling this chain, right? And I go to him. I feel this. I feel this sadness in you. You listen.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You lost a female that was very close to you. I really felt like he lost his mom. I'm like, you lost a female that's really close to you. And he starts crying. And he was like, oh, my God, how did you know? And I'm like, and this chain is a symbol of her, right? And he said, yes. And I said, she's here with you right now. And she wants you to know that you have a decision to make.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And it's a very emotional decision because it's between money or following your passion. And you know in your gut that that's the way to go and don't go the money route. And he was like, thank you so much. I needed to hear that. And then you left and started dancing to Lil Jon. You started just bumping and grinding. That's incredible. And so I left and I texted Sheena.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I'm like, okay, this is what we need for me to be psychic. Exactly five vodka shots. That's the perfect, that's the perfect psychic. It just like quiets one part of the brain and wakes up another. But like literally like she's had like visions and things she said that I will say. The white candle. Yeah, wait. In Palm Springs with your grandma.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Wait. We were drinking then too. She knew it was blackout. Hold on. So we were, we were, we were doing something. Yeah. We were going to play a game or something. I don't know how your grandma, oh, we were telling ghost stories. Oh, that's creepy. Right. And she was about to tell a ghost story and I'm like, wait, we need to light a white candle. And she's like, why did you just say that? Oh yes. Yeah. And And the story was about a white candle with your grandma or something? Yeah. So years and years ago when my grandma passed away, we had a psychic reading. And this was like over the phone.
Starting point is 00:41:33 It was like friends of like John Edward, who's this amazing psychic, used to have a TV show. And it was this thing on Coast 103.5, like our like Slow Jams radio station out here. And they had this thing called Angels in Waiting. And it was two colleagues of his who would do readings over the phone wow so my grandpa had passed away my grandma had um about 11 months later had submitted um us to have one of these readings and then my grandma passed away so within a year literally all four of my grandparents passed away but so these two so my grandma submits it. She passes away suddenly, had a stroke.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And the next day we get a phone call and they're like, hi, can we speak to Maxine? We're like, we're so sorry. She passed away. And they're like, we just got an email from her like two days ago. And we're like, it happened suddenly yesterday. And they're like, well, she was selected for this reading. And we're like, holy shit. Like, that's her.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like, oh, my God. So we got this reading. And long story short there was part of it where the psychic goes and i just want you both to know my mom and i she's like your grandma really loves those white candles you have lit for her on the table and my mom and i look over at the white fucking candles that these i have goosebumps i have goosebumps it was just like oh my god i believe in all that shit hundred percent. That's one thing that I love about LA. I mean, New York, there's like, I'm just very spiritual.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. And I don't like, I have friends who are like psychics and stuff and I'm always afraid for them to read me, but I like believing in it. Yeah. I did Hollywood Medium with Tyler Henry. Oh my God. How was that? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:43:00 It was the most incredible experience in my life. Like everything he said was right up to the point where this was last september 2018 and he was like you know focus on work blah blah blah he was like this is not your time for love he's like just put that on hold he goes end of 2019 going into 2020 that's your time and in september last year i was like god that's so far away but i was like it kept me in the mindset of like any fuck boy who came along i was like god that's so far away but I was like it kept me in the mindset of like any fuck boy who came along I was like nope nope nope not the right time and then boom fucking Aquaman just comes into my life it sucks though because like we're we're all
Starting point is 00:43:35 you know getting older and you're like to be like this is not the right time is hard yeah like society tells me that this is the right time my eggs are telling me this is the right time is hard. Yeah. Like society tells me that this is the right time. My eggs are telling me this is the right time. That's why I froze them. That's I remember when you froze them. I've done it twice. I'm doing it one more time. Is it really painful? No. Well, for me, it wasn't. But I also don't have a fear of needles. Yeah. Yeah. I think well, I think I might do that too, because I'm just like, so driven right now. And so focused focused you're at such a good age to do it too and I don't want to get distracted the one thing is I don't want to do to distract me if you're like helping me or like bringing me joy cool um but I don't want to get dependent on you or get distracted by you I highly recommend it I mean there are you know I mean in your position
Starting point is 00:44:21 there's so many doctors who would probably do trade for things. Did you do a trade? Yeah. I posted a ton of stuff. I would. I also just wanted people to be aware that this is an option. You don't have to freeze embryos. You don't have to find the right guy or settle. You can do this on your own if you want, but also you just have that option.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And then you need to do IVF? Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's a chance I could still get pregnant on my own if you want, but also you just have that option. And then you need to do IVF. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's a chance, you know, I could still get pregnant on my own. Yeah. But why when I have, I have 16 eggs frozen right now. I'm doing one more round in probably March. I keep pushing it a little because it's snowboarding season. And I was like, going to do it in January.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And then Brock's like, oh, we're going to Sundance. We're going to Tahoe. I was like, shit, you're right. I was like, all right, February. And I was like, I go, you know what? Because he's like all about me doing another round. Does he live in San Diego? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, how long did it take you to get there? Like two hours. But also I have a house in Palm Springs, which is two hours. So it's like I'm so used to that drive. I'm like understanding the L.A. lifestyle where it's like you bop in your car, you go to the next thing. And L.A. is so cool because it's all these different kinds of towns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's so different than the city. But I'm of towns in such a small area it's so different than the city but I'm like I want to be bi-coastal yeah I love it I feel like the Marines are doing well
Starting point is 00:45:30 and it's great because you can take the train down to San Diego so you can just like get work done I literally did a podcast from the train
Starting point is 00:45:36 a couple weeks ago when we went down there yeah and it wasn't bad I was like worried about the noise but we're like this is oddly okay like this could be
Starting point is 00:45:44 our new thing we're taking shenan oddly okay like this could be our new thing we're taking shenanigans on tour that's amazing have you done live shows no i haven't yet so uh that okay so stassi's on tour right now yeah and she's saying it's her podcast tour but she's not doing a podcast no so i don't have you seen her show so i'm like very good friends with taylor strecker okay yeah like inspired me to do radio. Uh-huh. And we do radio together. And she, so like Taylor opens with I think like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And then. Like stand up? Stand up. Okay. And then Stassi, but it like has to do with Stassi Little and Vanderpump and her relationship with Stassi. And then I guess they go on and they do a couple just different like entertaining segments and games.
Starting point is 00:46:23 So it's not just her talking to a guest. Gotcha. And I think it's more, if you're doing a live show, it's fun to get a couple segments, get a guest in different places. I guess she's lucky because she has Bo. But you kind of can make your own thing. Mine, I would do some stand-up, and then I would do different games that I play.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You really can make it your own and you'll just find that you don't want to just sit there with a mic when you're performing from all those people the energy's insane you want to like do games and do more stuff yeah but I think that you on the road I mean you're already a performer and that's the thing I love like doing shows already and then especially after being in Vegas doing a live show every night for four or five months I mean I loved it like I thrived on just that energy and like I can't imagine people laugh you already did like Vegas yeah so I feel like now we're just business talking but I feel like shenanigans you can make it whatever you want like you could have openers of like whatever like dancers or you could do a song on it I think could close with Good As Gold. Yes, 100% she'd close with Good As Gold.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I think, like, yeah, you make it your own thing because shenanigans is just your personality. Yeah. It's just people hearing you talk shit. So if you go on, like, I definitely think you perform some songs. I think you do, like, you even maybe, like, put together, like, fun clips of things you've done in the past. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Talk about it. Just make it your own. Okay, so you're going to produce my live tour. We're done. I'm producing. It's happening. Yeah, I mean, I would love to do that because it's like, I mean, I'm not a talented singer. I know that.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I would argue you're very entertaining and your shit slaps. Thank you. Yeah, it slaps. But it's like entertaining as a performer. I'm not trying to sing fucking Celine Dion ballads. No, people aren't going to hear like your range. Exactly. People are going to shake their asses and be around you
Starting point is 00:48:12 and like it's such, oh, it's so iconic. Yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna. You have to. The hardest thing is discuss this. We did. I had a little vision about you doing this. Yeah. Yeah, so we have a whole conversation like through text about this already. vision about you doing this. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a whole conversation like through text about this. We did talk about this.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah. Sheena, come to New York City. We'll start with a show. We'll do it like Gotham or one of the prettier theaters. And we'll have one show. We'll test it out so your friends won't see you. And then when it's ready. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 In a small market like New York City. Small market like New York City City no one will know about it yeah no I think you've clearly there's something like podcasting this is great and I'm funny on podcast because I forget that other people listen and then I say stupid shit
Starting point is 00:48:57 all the time and then you're apologizing but I feel like there's something about seeing the people who listen to your podcast and love Vanderpump and love the stuff you do and seeing them and doing the meet and greets. It's just a great energy, and it actually creates great buzz for the podcast, too. Yeah, and I love that. Even just at BravoCon at our Vanderpump Rules after party, at midnight after four or five
Starting point is 00:49:22 shots, James texted me and was like, hey, do you want to do Good as Gold? And'm like i'm drunk now there's 2400 people here sure i was supposed to go but i had a show i had to leave for a show but i know page and amanda were there and i was so jealous yeah i had no rehearsal whatsoever i just went backstage grabbed a mic my voice was like gone from partying the night before yep got out there did did the splits. Everyone just freaked out. And it was so much fun. I'm like, I want to do this all the time, but I don't think that I could carry it on my own. I would need more aspects to a show.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yes. I think you get your girl, whoever she is, you get one of your guys, who's a great performer, and we'll talk it out. We'll figure it out. I want to produce this.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That would be fun. It's just the most annoying thing, too. It's like, oh, you're just copying Stassi. I'm like, oh, is she the only one who can go on tour? Is she the only one who can have a podcast? Stassi didn't invent podcast touring. No, we have similar interests. If anything, she proved the concept works for reality TV. It works.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Exactly. It's not a competition. I'm like, we can all have some. Lala and I both do acting. Lala and I both a competition. I'm like, we can all have some. Lala and I both do acting. Lala and I both do singing. It's like, we're not copying each other. There are millions of people in the world who do these things. And also, you both might be doing the same recipe, but it's going to taste different.
Starting point is 00:50:35 You guys are doing two different brands and two different things. And I'd argue Stassi should probably be happy that you guys are grinding and doing your thing. And I think you're going to make it your own. It's's gonna be very different than stassi's yeah definitely because i mean her and i are we're night and day yeah and it's like i mean like kristin wrote a book and it's like well she's copying i know it's like no people there are people right people right and a fun fact kristin's been working on her book a lot longer than stassi worked on hers like krist Kristen started writing this like, probably three or four years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And it just kind of got put on hold and then, boom, Stassi just put that book out so quickly. But their books are also very different. So different. To be honest, I just think they're both smart. And the more I see women grinding, like, there's especially with millennials, with podcasts, there's so much room for everyone.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Like, everyone just wants to have the next fun thing they listen to. And that's why I love coming on this kind of podcast. I feel like your listeners are cool as fuck. And they'll listen to mine. And my listeners will listen to yours. And we're all happy together making money. Yes. Anyway, that's my shit about that.
Starting point is 00:51:38 But yeah, you need to do it. You're a performer. That's where you feel alive. Yeah, it is. That's my vision. You're envisioning, right? We have a shared vision. We have a shared vision. We're a performer. That's where you feel alive. Yeah, it is. That's my vision. You're envisioning, right? We have a shared vision. We have a shared vision.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Every time I go to, like, a Broadway show, I get, like, sad because I'm like, I miss being on stage every night. Like, it was so much fun. Those emotions, like, sad or even, like, jealousy is just the universe telling you that's what you want to do. Yeah. And, I mean, that's true. And it's like I'm 34 now. Like, I can admit a lot of things that I maybe couldn't admit before and it's like I mean yeah I am envious of everything Stassi's doing
Starting point is 00:52:10 because it's things I want to be doing but I'm not trying to do it either I'm like I'm not jealous of her I'm not hating on her she is proving that this works and it's something that I want to do too so I'm like if she can do it I know I can do it she's just doing it first and thank you Stassi for like putting that into the universe and making you realize like holy shit that's amazing yeah and like her and I are finally on a play like on the same page we're like we're good we're I mean we're not best friends we don't talk every day I think I talked to her fiance more than I talked to her but it's like we're just like good and like supportive of each other so it's not like it's not a competition anymore i'm just i'm too old for that shit like it's it's funny you say like now that you're 34 like i couldn't have done reality tv when i was 24 i
Starting point is 00:52:55 didn't know who i was i wasn't confident enough not that i have it all together now but like to put yourself out there is so hard i think now you're at the stage it's like you've done vegas you have this podcast you're on the show it It's like you've done Vegas. You have this podcast. You're on the show. It just seems like a natural next step to let people see you. I hate saying in the flesh because that word is disgusting to me. But in person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Because really that's what people want to see. And they just want to enjoy you and experience whatever gets you hyped up. Yeah. And excited. All right. Well, shenanigans might be going on tour in 2020. So I did have some questions come in for you. Oh, fun.
Starting point is 00:53:32 All right. Let's see. I screenshot a bunch of them. The first one that came through was, ask Hannah if Jordan's gay. Ask Hannah if Jordan's a virgin. Katie.h also wants to know, Hannah, why throw so much shade towards LA? Oh my God, I'm being so crazy on Instagram right now.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I basically found the plastic surgery filter and I was just having so much fun with it. I was like, I want to get a little dog and not take care of it, but take photos. And I want to do a screenplay about a girl who likes a guy, but she doesn't know if he likes her back and I just like kept going I think because I'm from New York City there's so many stereotypes about LA yeah so I just like have been loving making fun of it but then like intermittently I'm like wait I kind of love LA like I'll post a photo of Venice Beach
Starting point is 00:54:19 and like I think New York and LA are so different so so different. So different. And I'm like, but I have this, like, love and respect for, like, it's like L.A., New York, where the hubs, where there's so much energy. It's so amazing. But I'm a comedian, so I'm going to, I shit on New York, I shit on L.A. Yeah. Like, I basically was making fun of, yeah, I've made fun of everything. Yeah. I spent $19 this morning on an acai bowl, so. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's where we are. That sounds like. That's where we're at. On the inexpensive end. I spent $19 this morning on an acai bowl, so. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah. That's where we are. That sounds like an inexpensive event. I know. All right. Tay D. Mill wants to know if you're still friends
Starting point is 00:54:54 with the British boo thing. Oh, my God. British Dave. We're actually still really good friends. I don't, I'm normally not friends with exes.
Starting point is 00:55:01 We, we ended, he's in Australia right now. Like, he was moving around. He also was a party boy. And he didn't really, his career was moving all around. He was in finance. And I just didn't feel like he was the one for me. But he was really tall and sexy.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Did you know that from the start he wasn't the one? I feel like when we met, we both had just gone out of a relationship. He actually broke up with me before we started dating. We met on a dating app and we were about to meet up for a date and he sent me a long paragraph text. He called me Bernie. He was like, Bernie, I feel like I'm not in the right emotional place to meet someone new and you seem super cool. Like this whole long
Starting point is 00:55:36 thing. And you're like, you're perfect. I was like, is emotion available yet? And I was like, okay, cool. I just wanted to get a drink because I'm in a similar place too, but whatever. It's fine. And then he goes, fine, let. I just wanted to get a drink because I'm in a similar place too, but whatever, it's fine. And then he goes, fine, let's go meet up. We get drunk. We make out the whole date.
Starting point is 00:55:49 But he was, like, actually emotionally unavailable, and I was, like, so into him. Like, he was – I was – oh, I was so into him. And, like, a month later, I was like – he just wasn't that into me, and I started hooking up with this Australian rugby player who was super hot. My boyfriend's an Australian rugby player. They're the best. But they party.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Oh, I know. They fucking party. That's how we met. I love Australians. Me too. Oh, I love Australians. And British Dave, I could tell, like, got jealous. And he was like.
Starting point is 00:56:22 How did he know? I think, like, I told him. I was like, I'm seeing an australian rugby player sorry bye wait you gotta tell me his name after the show because i'm gonna ask brock if he knows him he he played for yeah the new york whatever eagles or some show okay um yeah they're so crazy but i mean rich dave who loves rugby and he was and then we started seeing each other again but i kind of like never got back into it fully but then like with the show i was like we were talking and he was like i just like got i was very close with him but i didn't feel like he was a one for me that's just how it was but i like love being around him he's so cute and we have this trust after the show together we really were like i saw sides of him that I was like, oh my God, you are such a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. But like, it wasn't the right timing. And he was always just like, oh, I want to go to England. I want to go to Tokyo. And I was like, yo, chill. I'm trying to just like get some shit done by tomorrow in New York City. I just want to do my laundry. I literally want to do my laundry.
Starting point is 00:57:20 So yeah. All right. Just because they're hot and tall doesn't mean they're right for you. But British Dave is great. And I think he's doing fine with the ladies. Very true. Yeah. Nicole Sirzannon wants to know, if you could vacation with anyone from Bravo, who would it be and why?
Starting point is 00:57:35 Oh, my gosh. Well, my number one is always Paige. We are so – we don't give a – like, we never get mad at each other for anything. We just don't care about things. Yeah. Like, she will cancel on me two minutes before something and i'll be like you know what no i get to do that to you one time we just like never get mad at each other and we know what we're thinking i think rooming together you get really close yeah and we don't we're like both
Starting point is 00:57:58 messy and we never get mad at each other for being messy this is about production but the camera guys would come in and we would just like put our heels like in the middle of the room and watch them almost like fall on them it was just we're a mess we're a literal mess but um Paige is great to travel with also she tells me very blatantly like when my outfits are shit and we're so different with fashion but I feel like I've helped her chill out a little and she's's helped me be a little more highbrow. Yeah, okay. On another show, who would I travel with? Teresa.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yes. Have you met her before? Oh, I know her. Yeah, we have the same makeup artist. Oh, Priscilla. Yeah. Oh, Priscilla is the fucking best. I know.
Starting point is 00:58:38 She's the shit. Oh, my God. I love her so much. Great personality, too. And she's gorgeous. But Teresa, when I interviewed her, I pronounced her name wrong. I said it was Judice or something. And she was like, what? That's not my name.
Starting point is 00:58:49 And then it's Judice. Yeah. She's just so scary, but so actually sweet and fun. I love her. I would just watch her be herself. I would just watch her on TV all the time. Yeah. And she's incredible.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah. She'd be fun to go out with. I feel like she'd party, but she'd also get her way. I'd be like, I want that beach chair's incredible she'd be fun to go out with I feel like she'd party but she'd also like get her way I'd be like I want that beach chair and she'd be like I got it
Starting point is 00:59:08 what if you had to date someone from Bravo oh my god oh yeah oh my god such a good question okay this is so you know who I ran into
Starting point is 00:59:19 in Santa Monica who the first night I fly in we go to a random we're staying at the Shore Hotel we said we go to a random taco we're staying at the Shore Hotel. We go to a random taco spot.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Shep walks in. Stop. Shep. I'm like, I'm in a random place in Santa Monica. And he's with some, like, 23-year-old with fake lips. Oh, my God. She just was, like, maybe 18. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And I basically was like, do I say hi to him? And my parents were like, say hi to him. I'm like, this is so random. And I was like, what's up and he was like what are you doing here he's so nice but Shep is the kind of guy that when I was younger I would have liked because he's tall and emotionally unavailable but now I'm like you're no like I it doesn't phase me anymore I just see him as like oh I know oh like you have potential. Yeah. I mean, Austin actually flirted on at Summer House when he came to party. But he's I told him he's too sweet for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I told him you can't handle New York girl. And he's so off and on with his girlfriend. Oh, yeah. I'm not trying to get involved in that. Yeah. That's messy. Who would I hook up with? Actually, I do.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I have like a little crush on Tom Schwartz. Oh, I totally a little crush on Tom Schwartz. I totally respect him and Katie, but he's a lot funnier in person than on TV. He's a lot more clever, and I love shy guys, and he's pretty shy, and then will just say subtle funny things. So I liked his energy. I'm just starting drama. All right. Yeah. All right. say subtle funny things so I liked his energy yeah I'm just starting drama all right yeah all right well maybe we have another summer house Vanderpump Rules crossover next season I know
Starting point is 01:00:50 we want you there I was supposed to come this summer and then I don't know what happened they just never followed up and then Jax and Brittany were supposed to go and then I was like Carl do you know like what's going on and then weird nothing ever happened i think they like always had as a plan but we're seeing like where our episodes were to see if they could fit you yeah because i think what happened last year is like we had so much shit going on that like we didn't even really need that extra story of them coming and then it became kind of like they just watching us fight yeah um yeah that was when i yelled at jordan and i was like yeah i remember that that was one of those things where i was like i'm not gonna snap uh-huh and then i was like he because i was supporting him like throughout the whole season and then i got put in my head that
Starting point is 01:01:36 like i might look like a liar i mean like i'm supporting a liar yeah it's like i'm not trying to support anything i just want you to be yourself. And I fucking lost my damn mind. And the next day we were fine. Are you guys still friends? We're still friends, but something came out on TMZ yesterday with him that was not cool, him spilling some shit. So I don't really want to get involved in that right now.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I was like, should I text him? And I'm like, I don't, I don't, nah. He went to college with Adam, so. Oh, random. Yeah, I just had a bad taste in my mouth about him from day one. So I was like, ew, you went to FSU. But Schwartz went to FSU, so. We love Schwartz.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You know? I actually had Robbie Hayes on my podcast. That was, look, one of my notes. Oh my God, yes. I wrote down Robbie. Okay, what? Just go. Tell us.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Just go. Okay, so Robbie has always been friends with Jordan. Who knows what's going on with those two? Yeah, of course they're friends. Of course they're friends. But I never got involved in that. And then we had some, like, premiere party, some party that he was at. And he was just like, what are you up to in New York?
Starting point is 01:02:43 And I was like, come on my podcast tomorrow. And he was like, sure. And he was at. And he was just like, what are you up to in New York? And I was like, come on my podcast tomorrow. And he was like, sure. And he rolled in. He's so, yeah, he's a different kind of guy than I'm used to. Yeah. Because he's, like, so laid back. His teeth are blinding. Literally.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I thought he'd be more annoying than he is. Yeah. He was actually, like, cool, laid back. But I'm like, you're bad fucking news. Yeah. Like, I could tell he's bad news, but I'm like, you're bad fucking news. Yeah. Like, I could tell he's bad news, but, like, definitely a good time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Exactly. That's why him and I, like— That was my intuition. Taking trips together, like, we, you know, just had drunken makeouts and stuff because he is. He's a good time, but— He's so charming. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So charming. He's way more charming than I thought he'd be considering his hair. Yeah. Like, he pulls it off. I was like, you can't he takes swag to like, and I was calling him out about his hair and he was very logical. He's like, yeah, I just try to do something new. Men are stupid.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. Men need girlfriends to tell them what to do with their hair. Totally. Yeah. But yeah, we had a fun episode on Burning Hell. Love that. Well, I can't wait. I'll be in New York, like I said, soon. Yes, hell yeah. And I can't wait to come on Burning in Hell. I can't wait to have you. I think Jamie's going to be with be in New York, like I said, soon. Yes, hell yeah. And I can't wait to come on Burning in Hell. I can't wait to have you. I think Jamie's going to be with me in New York.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Hell yeah. Yes. I'm going to bring drunk Jamie. We're going to do psychic reading. Five shots of vodka. Jamie, we have to. Let's do it. I'm really excited.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yes. Okay, tell everyone where they can find you. You can find me on Instagram or Twitter at beingburns, B-E-I-N-G-B-E-R-N-Z. And Burning in Hell, rate, subscribe, review. Also, I'm going to be, oh my God, I'm going to be in Washington, D.C. at the Improv on January 22nd. So get tickets for that. Yeah. All right, guys.
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