Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Billie Lee and Adam Spott
Episode Date: April 17, 2018Brand new Vanderpump Rules stars Billie Lee sits down with Scheana and beautiful specimen Adam Spott joins for a game of SURperlatives. They rundown a list of favorites and best and worst at ...the restaurant. Then Billie talks about the difficulties she faced growing up trans and coming into a new loving and accepting life in LA. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea.
This is Shenanigans.
And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea.
Hey guys, welcome back to another exciting episode of Shenanigans.
I'm your host, Sheena Shea, and that is at Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A, on all social media platforms.
As you know, Snapchat is my shit, so follow me on there because that is where I am most active.
If you follow my Insta story, it's usually just leftover Snapchats.
But anyways, today I have two beautiful people sitting in front of me.
They are two of the newest cast members of this little show called Vanderpump Rules.
I don't know if you guys have heard of it, but I have Miss Billie Lee and Mr. Adam Spott.
Hey, guys.
Hey.
Hi.
How you doing?
Excellent.
Just really excited to be here.
How are you?
Yeah, I'm good.
Good.
just really excited to be here. How are you? Yeah, I'm good. So for those of you who listened to my episode with Robbie Hayes, Adam was the one who kept interrupting our damn game
of Heads Up. We're like just trying to get through this game of Heads Up and he's like
spots calling you and then we're like ignore and then we start playing again. He's like
spots calling you again. We're like ignore. I was like, you know what? I'm just going
to actually call him back because he might need something. He knows I'm doing my podcast
but he keeps calling. So we call him back and he's like, he knows i'm doing my podcast but he keeps calling so he called him back and he's like what's up what you doing i'm like uh doing
my podcast like you've interrupted our game twice i'm very attention seeking and you weren't paying
attention yeah i know i'm sorry but anyone who's close to me knows adam is literally my number one
he is my ride or die we have become very close friends
very quickly only known each other about a year but he's my homie and my best
friend and everyone's like oh my god sheenie you have so many best friends
and I'm like well you know what because people who are my friends I think are
the freaking best so I am pretty good here we are and now I have Billy and
she's one of my besties and I mean this girl I don't know if y'all have seen her on the show or not.
If not, you've got to check her out.
And if you haven't seen the show, go to her website.
It's itsmebillylee.com.
You can read her story, see some gorgeous photos.
I mean, she is someone I will say I'm very honored and proud to be friends with.
And we're going to get into some of your life and some fun girl talk.
Okay, now.
But first, while Adam's here, because I know he has to get to sir and wait.
Make that money.
Yeah.
I've got to get over there.
Dishes need to be washed.
Right.
Get some fruit.
Those limes ain't going to cut themselves, you know?
They're not going to cut themselves.
So before Adam goes, we're going to play a quick Sir Perlita's game.
Yeah, you see what I did there?
I get it.
Yeah, I see what you did.
Very clever.
All right.
So in true shenanigans form, you know, we've got to kick it off with a game.
So are you guys ready?
Yes.
Now, your choices of people can be current or former Sir employees.
Okay.
I'm a new current, so I'm just going to. Yeah. Okay. I'm a new current, so I'm just gonna...
Yeah.
Okay.
But if there was one
where you're like,
oh, that bitch
who got fired,
like, yeah, that's her,
you can say it.
I suck at games,
by the way,
so I'm a little nervous.
I'm very competitive.
All right, well,
this is just kind of
like a rapid fire.
Okay.
First name that comes to mind.
Got it.
Ready?
Yes.
Here we go.
Most likely to star
in a condom commercial.
Sheena.
James Kennedy.
James Kennedy. James Kennedy.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
But our conversation at lunch.
Yes.
I'm just kidding.
Hey, use protection, people.
Use protection.
Most likely to get fired from CERN next?
Jax.
Jax.
I was trying to say that, but it didn't come out.
Jason Jax.
What's that guy's name?
Yeah, definitely Jax. Yeah, Jax. Jax. I was trying to say that, but it didn't come out. Jason Jax. What's that guy's name? Yeah, definitely Jax.
Yeah, Jax, for sure.
Most likely to make a drink wrong multiple times.
Oh, God.
Me.
I just, I mean, I was, I literally have, there's like proof of me.
The past couple of times I've tried to make drinks make them wrong, so.
How many times have you made a drink correct for Lisa Vanderpump?
Oh, like a lot, a lot more than failure. Really?
All you do is pour like rosé for her
anyway, first of all.
But I do that correctly. Yeah, but someone like
Jax messes that up. You're like, Jax, can I get a vodka
cranberry? And he's like, what's in that?
And you're like, it's a vodka cranberry.
But yeah, definitely, my success rate is definitely
higher than it looks.
What drink have you made Lisa that she likes the most?
Wow, I guess
I've made her a few raspberry mojitos.
So probably, I'd probably have to go with that.
Okay. I feel like she sticks it too.
It's like that and rosé. Yeah, she loves
rosé though.
Yep.
So that's easy. I love when she
orders rosé. I feel like you move kind of slow
and smooth, so I just don't see you really
as a bartender.
I take my time.
There's a lot of pressure behind the bar.
But here's the thing, you guys.
If you don't follow at spot with two Ts, Mia Graham, at spot Mia Graham on Instagram, you're missing out because literally, he is gorgeous.
And I'm glad we're just friends because he's too pretty to date.
Also, besides just being pretty, he's, like, super nice.
He is.
Thank you.
He's a really good guy.
And, you know, we're not even going to get into the Britney stuff.
But, you know, he's just, he's a good guy.
He's a catch for any girl.
But I want him to stay single with me for a while.
So, please, girls, don't snatch him up.
Wait, it's only us three that are single, by the way.
It is.
Like, everyone is taken.
Is that true?
I'm annoyed.
Literally, everyone, like, in our crew, they're all in relationships.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're the lone survivor singlers.
Yeah.
All right.
Most likely to crash on your couch?
Tom Sandoval.
Probably me.
I crash on Sheena's couch all the time.
I mean, as in, like, drinking. Yeah. Yeah, probably Sandoval. Yeah. crashed on Sheena's couch with all of us I mean like as in like
drinking
yeah
yeah probably
Sandoval yeah
yeah he likes to party
or Schwartz
cause you never know
where he's gonna end up
kind of thing
so maybe Schwartz
most likely
to show up
to work
hungover
hmm
Jax
no
um
Tom I feel like Tom is like does Tom even get hung over he's i feel like he's
always i think he just keeps going i know britney gets bad hangovers i might go with jeremy
yeah i feel like he smokes more than he does drink though yeah true yeah maybe he's just
high britney loves that tequila and then the next day she's dying yeah oh my god i know
been there with that girl many times.
Least likely to think twice before getting in a car with strangers?
Schwartz.
Yes.
Wait.
Because he just –
Yes, that's so true.
Just like stumble in and not even know.
He just goes.
Yeah.
Goes to the flow.
It doesn't matter.
And then make best friends with him while he's in the backseat.
Something like that.
I think Schwartz has actually done that before.
Yeah.
You didn't surprise me at all.
We're not going to get into that.
I love Schwartz. I do too. What's not to love? Seriously. I love him. I think Schwartz has actually done that before. Yeah, you didn't surprise me at all. We're not going to get into that. I love Schwartz.
I do too.
What's not to love?
I love him.
I just don't know him that well.
So I'm like always like, I think I played this game and I was like, I had to pick if
I was marrying someone or having sex with someone or killing someone.
I'm like, I would kill Schwartz because I don't know him that well.
But she said she would have sex with Jax.
Okay.
Come on, Billy.
Marrying Sandoval. Okay, I get that. But like, sex with J. Okay. Come on, Billy. Mary and Sandoval.
Okay, I get that.
But like,
sex with Jacks?
I know.
Well, I had to pick.
I mean,
I'd rather like a buff guy
than like a more scrawny guy.
For the record,
I love Schwartz.
I just wanted to put that out there.
I like him too.
I like him too.
I love him.
I love Schwartz. Even when he's. I love him. I love Schwartz.
Even when he's making fun of me and calling me a bootleg Kardashian, I got mad love for
Schwartz.
I mean, there was a text that he sent me.
I know, I think Adam, I know Red, I don't know if you did, Billy, that Schwartz had
sent me last summer and it was just going in on me.
And all I could do was be like, that is the most articulate, drunk, insulting message I've ever received.
It was hilarious.
I'm proud of you.
And him and I both have that Florida State alumni.
Yes, you do.
In common.
So that's extra love for Schwartz.
Yeah, you Seminoles.
All right.
Least likely to pick you up from the airport?
Ariana?
No, just kidding.
We haven't said her name yet
So I wanted to throw that out there
Because I love her
Yeah Ariana would be like
I'm going to call you an Uber
And I'll see you when you get here
Exactly
And James
I feel like he would not want to
Yeah
Take someone
Jeremy took me to the airport
A couple weeks ago
I'll say that
Yeah
We did brunch at Sir
Sir is now open for brunch
You guys on Saturdays and Sundays
I'm going to be hosting a brunch there
I'm going to start hosting a brunch there And James is going to start hosting a brunch there, and James is going to DJ.
Oh my god, fun. And Adam will be
cutting limes. I work brunch every
weekend on Saturdays and Sundays, cutting limes.
We're going to do Sundays, I believe.
Yes. Okay. I can't wait
to move back from Vegas for reasons like this.
I know. Alright.
Least likely to be on time for
work? Ariana is late
for everything. I have to say that. She'll be late to her own funeral. work. Ariana is late for everything. That is so true.
I have to say that.
She'll be late to her own funeral.
Yes.
Yeah, definitely Ariana.
Most likely to still work at Sir in their 40s.
Jax.
Jax.
Next year.
It's the big 4-0 for Mr. Jax Taylor.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Most likely to get pregnant.
Britney. Okay. Most likely to get pregnant? Brittany.
Brittany.
I'm thinking Brittany and, yeah, I just keep thinking Brittany.
I mean, you know, Kristen, she's in a serious relationship, and now Stassi's dating this
new guy.
You never know.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd go with Brittany, especially considering, you know, we talked about condoms earlier.
Yeah.
They don't partake in those.
Not a fan.
Oh, that's a little TMI.
Yeah.
What did Katie call it?
Spray and pray?
Yeah, spray and pray.
Oh, God.
All right.
Favorite and least favorite, sir, employee.
What?
I got in trouble with this.
I got in trouble with this.
Favorite.
I mean, you.
Thank you.
I have to say that.
I'm on your podcast right now.
But no, you know I would. And least favorite? I don't, I mean, I. It doesn I have to say that. I'm on your podcast right now. But no, you know I would.
And least favorite?
I don't – I mean I –
It doesn't have to be your least favorite in life.
Like your least favorite person to work with.
Like someone who always complains.
They – you know.
I have been fortunate.
I get along with like everyone at CERN.
Of course you do.
But I mean I guess just given our past, I would have to say Jax.
Just, you know, just – Right. I mean and we don't even have – you know, have to say Jax. Just, you know, just.
Right.
I mean, and we don't even have, you know, we don't even have a bad past or anything like that.
But I guess by default I have to pick someone.
If you had to pick one.
Exactly.
Okay, now other than me, who would your favorite be?
Well, Ariana, you know.
Yes.
You two are like, I hang out with the most.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ariana too.
Yeah, I hang out with you two the most.
And if, let's just say someone like never was to go to sir again who
would you miss the least we already know this wait no i don't i'm getting so much shit for it
i've already said it once and i'm gonna say it out loud stassi okay and the only reason why is
because like i've just had experiences like she doesn't communicate and so i'm like oh is she kind
of fake and then also like i've asked her for some, like, advice, and she wasn't really, you know, there for me in that point,
and I thought that was kind of rude.
And, you know, and at the same time,
I think sometimes she takes, like, situations
and makes them about her and becomes a victim.
And I've already said this before,
but she's been kind to me before,
and, you know, I'm nice to her when we're hanging out,
and that's cool, but I could go, you know,
a whole day without seeing her, for sure, or working with her working with her I could go a whole year true yeah all right well that was our
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This is Shenanigans.
Alright, and we
are back with Billy Lee and
Adam's spot, but Adam, I know
you do have to get going to work.
Sadly. Wait, wait, before
you go, what is up with your Instagram?
Why is it –
I don't like – I mean everyone asks me that.
Everyone thinks like I'm a cocaine dealer.
No, actually I just wanted to know.
I think when I made it, it was like in college.
I thought I was like witty or something like that.
But no, I do not partake in any type of drug-related activities or anything like that.
No, you barely drink.
I just thought I was like witty.
Yeah, and when he drinks, he drinks to get drunk.
Yeah, I have my fair share of drinks, but
no, it's, you know, like
Instagram, spot,
I don't know. Yeah. But yeah,
I'm not like... Soup's clever. It's so cute.
Exactly. I'm not a drug user.
Alright, well, we're going to say bye to Adam's spot,
but we're going to go and see him
cutting those limes later.
We're going there tonight, so we'll see you.
Yes.
Perfect.
I'll be there.
Thank you guys very much.
Thanks for stopping by.
And thank you, Sheena, for having me.
Absolutely.
Any time.
And he will be back soon, ladies.
Don't you worry.
Yes.
Bye.
Bye.
All right.
Now that the gorgeous specimen is leaving the building,
Millie and I...
Now I can breathe. we're we're gonna
get into some girl talk but so here's the thing i know you have done a lot of interviews recently
and just in the last year with being on banner pump rules and whatnot i i don't want to talk
the show because if people watch it they watch it they know you from that i just really want this to be a fun interview where it's not completely repetitive of things
that i'm sure people ask you all of the time yeah so um i just want to open this up for my
listeners who don't know billy lee i just want you to tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell my listeners. I mean, I know. She's my bestie, but.
Well, I am from Indiana, a small town.
I kind of grew up in a trailer park situation.
And yeah, and I went to school for journalism, radio, TV, and film.
And since I was like.
Yes.
And since I was five, I just wanted to have my own talk show.
I would set up a camera in my basement and I would interview my brother and all these people.
And I went through this journey after college where they were like, you have to start in a small market to be a reporter.
And that's how I was going to start.
And they're like, you're too feminine for a small market, small town.
We can't have you on the camera.
So my dream job, it just crushed me.
I was rejected.
And then I was like, what am I going to do?
So I moved to Los Angeles, started my transition to female.
And here we are now.
I'm on Vanderpump.
And one day I'll have my own talk show.
It's going to happen.
Yes.
It's all going to happen.
Just like my tattoo says.
You know?
Maybe I'll have a podcast first.
I feel like I should start with a podcast and then my own talk show.
Yeah.
Or we could like co-host a talk show.
Oh my God.
Because we both do have that broadcast background.
That would be so dope.
Yeah, I got my degree in broadcast journalism as well.
I did radio, TV, film production, all of that.
That's why you're so good at this.
Thank you.
It's so natural.
Thanks.
I mean, I've had some practice.
So, okay, you mentioned coming out to LA, doing your transition.
How long from start to finish did that take?
Oh, my God.
It was, like, probably seven to eight years total.
And it's funny because whenever you first, like, okay, I'm going to start transitioning.
I'm going to get on hormones.
And I thought to myself, like, I'm going to go away for the summer and come back as a beautiful woman.
And it's, like, not really.
Like, it's such a process.
You have to be on hormones for a couple years before you can even have surgery because your face and everything is still shifting.
Your body is still shifting.
And then, you know, and it's really expensive.
It was like $70,000 for most of my surgeries.
And I had to work really hard.
And then luckily I had some really amazing friends in my life who was like, I will help you out financially to make this happen.
And they helped me make my dreams come true.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
I will say when you came over and we were in my big closet room and we were getting
you ready for your date with Jeremy, this girl's changing in front of me.
And I was like, oh my God, who did your tits?
I want to get some.
And she was like, no, those are all me.
Like seriously.
Yeah. You know what's weird is I had breast tissue as a boy and my doctor was like yeah you just have too much
female um hormones and uh estrogen and i would have to like tape my breast down to be a boy
and then as soon as i started hormones for my transition my boobs just grew like crazy like
they hurt all the time they still hurt hurt sometimes. Yeah. They're constantly growing. Yeah. I mean, it gets, they can get
sensitive. Yeah. You know, like with your period, it's sensitive. Same goes for me whenever
I'm on my hormones. There's certain times where it's just like really sensitive and
yeah, it makes my body feel like I'm on a period. Now I know you said, I think your earliest memory is when you were about six.
And what would you say the biggest challenge was growing up knowing that you weren't in the right body?
Well, the crazy thing is, as a child, I didn't even know the word trans, didn't understand it.
And my parents weren't really that educated and they didn't know really what to do with me.
And they just kept on telling me like, be a boy, you know, be more masculine, go out and play,
get dirty. And I was just attracted to very feminine things. That's all I knew. I was
really into Barbies. I was really into pink things. I remember you saying that about the pink bike.
Yeah. And I was denied. They were like, you can't have that. They brought me to the boy
section at the Easter egg hunt. And I was like, for that first time, I really felt like, okay, I'm wrong.
Like, there's something about me that's wrong.
And then also, I was so feminine as a child that, like, even at the grocery store, they'd be like, oh, your daughter's so cute.
My mom was like, that's my son.
Like, she was just annoyed and embarrassed.
And I can feel the embarrassment.
I can feel the shame.
So I grew up with a lot of shame.
And my parents love and accept me now.
But, you know, they were young, too. My parents had me when they were 16 or 17. And it was a different time back then. I mean, we're in 2018 now where everyone's accepted and
people understand and they're not as ignorant. It's like everyone's so much more open nowadays
where, you know, go back 20, 30 years. I mean, people didn't know him. People weren't even
comfortable to come out. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it definitely was like 20 some 30 years. I mean, people didn't know. People weren't even comfortable to come out. Yeah, because it definitely was like 20 some
years ago. And the crazy thing is now
even with all the fans from
Vanderpump, so many people are
just so loving and nice and accepting.
I've not had... Besides saying the thing
with Stassi, I've only had a few negative
comments since I've said something negative about
Stassi. And it's just because I'm putting out negative
so I'm going to get something back. Right, of course.
People are all... What is it? Op um opinions are like assholes everyone has one
exactly it's crazy how some people can just like comment the meanest things like
how I just delete and block like that's all I do and I really don't even like let it sink in but
it's crazy to me how I could never go on someone's page and just be negative like no oh my god it is
insane to me I was saying a couple weeks ago on my show, I'm like, I challenge one of you haters to
come into Sir and to say what you said on my Instagram to my face.
Oh, hell yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
It doesn't happen.
No.
It's like, oh, my God, you're my favorite.
I love you.
This and that.
Even like doing my show Sex Tips in Vegas every night at our meet and greet, people
are always coming like, you're my favorite.
You're the reason I watch the show.
And I go, really?
every night at our meet and greet people are always coming like you're my favorite you're the reason i watch the show and i go really it is just crazy how many people out there feel it is
okay to just project their insecurities onto a stranger and then to insult them on social media
and it's just like it's sad it really is because it's like how unhappy are you in your own life
that you're attacking someone who is a stranger you watch them on television you see them on instagram and it's like you don't know us fully as people yeah and you only know a version of us there's so
many different aspects of us and my thing is like when i see a negative comment i feel sorry for
them and i just kind of want to send love to them because obviously they're in a dark place and
they're just projecting and and this is you know in the physical form a lot of times i look at these
people who are saying nasty comments to me and I'm like, you're not even attractive physically.
And I can't even imagine what you're going through mentally because you're projecting that nasty stuff to me.
So it's definitely like one of those things where I'm like, I'm not at a vibration where I even like feel it or recognize it.
Of course, we see it.
We experience it.
I delete it.
But I don't go around thinking about it all day.
It doesn't lower my vibration because I know who I am and I'm comfortable with who I am.
That was one of the first things when you and I became friends.
I remember you always talk about the vibrations and I love that.
Like you're just this girl.
I mean, seriously, you are such an insanely cool person in so many ways.
Like you, I can't, I'm obsessed with you, but literally.
I'm all about the vibration because I'm all about putting out good vibes.
Yeah.
And, you know, for me, like we all live on different vibrations.
And when I experience people who are really depressed or negative or mean, they're just chilling on a lower vibration.
And I honestly can't.
I don't even have friends like that because they don't meet up with me.
They're not at the same level as me.
So I'm always talking about vibration because I see it and I feel it.
Yeah.
And we totally vibed like day one.
I remember I was working at Sir last, I think it was April.
And it was like a week or two before my birthday.
And I had Ken and Lisa's table.
And Lisa was like, Sheena, have you met the new hostess, Billie?
And I was like, no, I haven't.
I'm working on the lounge side.
She's on the restaurant side.
She was like, go introduce yourself.
Like, you guys are going to be friends.
I just know it. And I went over. I introduced myself. We hit it off. My birthday was the lounge side. She's on the restaurant side. She was like, go introduce yourself. Like, you guys are going to be friends. I just know it.
And I went over.
I introduced myself.
We hit it off.
My birthday was the next week.
She was at my party.
And we've been friends ever since.
I think I had, like, seven parties that year.
We had, like, I had one at Rock and Riley's.
Then I had one at Break Room.
And then we had the Masquerade Ball.
And, like, you were at every one.
There were so many things.
When I first started, sir, I was like, oh my God, another party.
Oh my God.
I was just going, going.
And half of the time you see my face being like in shock because I was just getting to
know everyone and there's all this shit going down.
And I'm like, what?
Oh my God, right?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
There's, I mean, you guys know my birthday parties don't ever go well.
Um, so, you know, I, I think I might just stop having them.
But then 33 is a fun number coming up.
So I'm like, no, I'll do one more.
Yeah, and it's James' favorite number.
Yes.
Yep, he's all about the 333.
Yeah.
So what is it like for you being a public figure?
It's interesting, for sure.
I've recently been, like, you know,
talking a lot about my childhood and my past and I do these really deep articles and then later I read them and I'm like, I feel like I'm still healing from the things that I talk about. And
so I find myself crying a lot. And I think, you know, I just recently started getting a life coach
just so I can keep myself on track with meditating and doing yoga and not being distracted. But it's weird
being a public figure. You're in the public. And, you know, my mission here is to educate and inspire
people. So my younger trans community, they have like, you know, a more positive environment to
grow up in and a more accepting environment. So I feel like I'm dealing with a lot of like weird, crazy stuff just to pave the way for them.
And I think that's why I'm here on planet Earth.
And also I love the planet.
But it's just like being a public figure is a lot of energy.
Don't you?
It really is.
But like you are just such a role model for not even just like the younger trans community,
just in general because
you're just an awesome fucking person and like you are someone who like anyone should want their
kids to strive to be like this woman because you're you're just you're fucking amazing i can't
say it enough literally um okay so um just to get into some little more fun things, I saw a video on your website about these crystal sex toys.
Oh, my God.
Chakra rubs.
Yeah.
Okay.
I need my listeners to hear about this.
So.
Okay.
So they're like, they kind of look like a dildo in a way.
And they are crystals.
So I had this thing where like, well, I still have this thing.
My vagina is really tight.
And that's because it doesn't dilate like a, you know, regular vagina. And so I have to put
something in it if I'm not having sex or intercourse a lot and I have to expand it,
you know, so it stays open and healthy. And I wanted to use something that was like more of a
crystal. So I met this woman and I worked with her with BuzzFeed and she like we just talked about loving our vagina.
And a lot of people have issues with their vagina, just like Ariana had some.
Yeah.
And her whole mission is to love and appreciate your vagina and use these crystal tools as like a meditation.
as like a meditation.
So as I was opening my vagina,
I was meditating and imagining myself
opening my heart space
and loving myself
and loving my vagina
and loving my human experience
and my trans experience.
So it was so dope.
And at the same time,
you can masturbate with it,
which feels really good.
See, that's one thing
that no one in the world believes me,
but I'm like,
I never have done it.
You've never masturbated?
No.
What?
I know.
Well, you must be getting
a lot of dick.
I mean.
We're not going to go there.
Moving on.
Dating life.
Speaking of dicks, what is your current status?
I mean, I know you're single because you are my single girl.
We're the lone ones going in to this summer.
When I move back, I'm like all all of my friends are in relationships except Billy.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm going to be single forever.
But I don't want to say that out loud because I've been saying that.
See, I keep saying that now too after two failed relationships.
I'm like, I'm staying single forever.
Well, that's our affirmation and that's what's going to happen.
Yeah.
You know, for me, and people have asked and even when we filmed the reunion, they're like,
oh, don't you feel like dating is so much easier now that you're on the show and you're out there and you're famous?
And I'm like, no.
So not only am I trans but I'm famous and trans.
Yeah.
And like guys, they still, especially my generation and the older generation, they do not – they're not really comfortable with being with a trans woman and being proud to be with a trans woman and being open about it.
And like my roommate, she's always like, oh my god,
every guy I talk to wants to fuck you. And I'm like,
yeah, they want to fuck me, but they don't want to marry me.
Right. Well, that's the difference. It's like,
because then you're having to question like, oh, do you just
want to see what like a man-made vagina is
like? Or do you actually want to get to know me as a
person? That's got to be very challenging.
Yeah, and I'm attractive and I have a tight vagina.
What guy wouldn't want to stick it in? But at the same time,
like, I'm... Truth I have a tight vagina. What guy wouldn't want to stick it in? Yeah. But at the same time, like, I'm –
Truth that.
But I've had my experiences and I, you know, I'm ready for something serious.
I want to adopt children in a couple years and I'm ready for, like, something serious.
So I'm just manifesting and putting that out there that there's some really dope guy who isn't, you know, living with his ego.
So we're not going to say never, but just please stay single with me this summer at least.
Oh, no.
Are you kidding?
I'm going to stay single.
I'm going to be flirting and fucking everyone.
Yes.
We're in our 30s.
We're flirting.
We're thriving.
Right?
Yes.
Do you have any crazy sex stories you can share?
Yes, actually.
I mean, well, it was just really cool.
One time I went to New York and I stayed in this hotel
and it was like one of the skyscrapers and I was like top floor and it was a huge storm
and I was like I'm in the moon to like have sex tonight you know so I like hit up a friend that
I knew and we had the most epic kinky crazy sex in the middle of the storm and it was all window
so I felt like I was in the clouds inside the storm with lightning and everything.
And it was like thundering and we were just going at it.
It was the most epic sex I've ever had in my life.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
I felt like one with nature and the planet.
Yeah.
Now I like want to like go to Chicago and go to like the top of Hancock at night, kick
everyone out and be like, excuse me.
Exactly.
I have some business to handle.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
Exactly.
I have some business to handle.
Yeah.
You are a very encouraging person, and that's one of the things I love about you.
You're so positive. You really are just a light that has been brought into a lot of our lives and to Sir.
What messages would you have for other trans people about just embracing their sexuality and having
fun yeah well it's uh i think we're and i've said this before like speaking to all women i think
we're on this journey to love ourselves and we have this toxic masculine energy sometimes that
we deal with and it's overcoming that and just loving ourself and having that shield of love
and power and i've always said the trans community, you know,
they're so beautiful. And when I see trans people out and being proud, like I just want to hug them
because I'm just so proud of them. And I find that my trans community is really beautiful. And
it's like a garden of flowers. And, and to me, you don't have to be very feminine and very,
you know, passing is what they used to say. And to me, if you have masculine features and you're embracing it,
but you're still a woman and you wear women clothes,
I think that is so sexy and so beautiful.
And I just encourage people to like keep going on that journey to love yourself
because even when I was in school and I was bullied
and there was all this writing on the bathroom wall,
Billy sucks dick and Billy's a faggot.
I took that and I was like, I can either be the victim right now
or I can be like, wow, these people are taking the time out of their day to write about me on the wall.
Right.
Exactly.
It's changing your perception.
So every time something negative happens.
That is such a good way to look at it.
Yeah.
You got to change your perception from fear to love.
And I made a choice one day to live in love.
And I used to live in fear where I couldn't even look people in their eye because I built this wall to protect myself as a child.
And I was like, I have to connect with people. I need opportunities. I want to live in love. So I went on this whole
spiritual journey to live in love. And I encourage people when they're living in fear to, you know,
write down your I ams, journal your gratitude and just try to do whatever you can to live your life
in love because then you attract all these amazing things. As soon as I decided to be proud and be
trans and not live in the closet, which was, it's called stealth. as I decided to be proud and be trans and not live in the closet,
which was,
it's called stealth,
and I decided to be open and proud about it,
all these amazing opportunities
came my way
because I just decided
to start loving myself.
And I'm having
a human experience
and I just so happen
to be trans
and I think it's really cool
that I got to be both
male and female
on this planet at one time.
It's so dope.
Yeah.
And I know how to suck dick
really well.
Yes.
All right.
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We're getting back into shenanigans.
All right.
And we're back with Miss Billie Lee, who is very good at sucking that D.
And I enjoy it.
And you know what?
I've actually eaten out of pussy before and I really liked it
yeah yeah oh I dated a trans man and it was like my only time ever like dealing with a vagina
besides my own and I was freaking out at first when I went down on him and then
after a couple times I was like this is amazing and I would like eat him out for days
yeah yeah what do you what do you prefer dick I mean, I just am like more comfortable with it.
Yeah.
I love a dick.
Don't we all?
Okay.
Girl talk.
Yes.
Celebrity crush.
Celebrity crush.
Wow. I'm just like, I'm never really like super into celebrities, I guess.
You know Van Diesel?
Is that his name? Oh, yeah. I used to be so about him back in the guess. You know, Van Diesel. Is that?
Oh, yeah.
I used to be so about him back in the day.
Fast and the Furious.
He was my biggest crush.
But now I realize he's really short.
Actually, I'm cool with short guys, but I'm not really into them. A lot of actors are short.
I know.
You meet him in person and you're like, I've been on the red carpet next to like so many
A-listers where I'm like, oh, you're little.
You're cute.
Like, but on camera, I mean, they just have this gorgeous face and you don't realize that
they're like five foot six.
Well, and also they angle the camera and they put them on a box.
Like, you know.
Oh, totally.
Yeah.
What are some of like your favorite, let's say online.
So everyone who's listening can also go to these.
What are some of your favorite online like fashion boutiques and whatnot?
Oh, you know what? I started
shopping at this place called Lulu's.
Yeah, okay. Oh my god.
My boots, actually. Yeah, no.
I love Lulu's. I love them.
Yeah, I get so much stuff from them.
L-U-L-U-S. Yeah.
I was just doing a photo shoot today and I
was wearing all their clothes. I love them.
Yeah, they have such a
variety. It's like you can literally find everything you can find.
Like, I've gotten a couple New Year's Eve dresses from them.
Most of my interview looks on Vanderpump Rules are Lulu's.
Yeah.
And it's so affordable.
Yeah.
They have really cute shoes.
The shoes I wear on the upcoming reunion are from Lulu's.
Oh, wow.
And Andy Cohen complimented them.
And we're all sitting there, and they're, like, going through, like, everyone's shoes.
And Lala's like, mine are five grand.
And Ariana's like, mine are six grand.
It was, like, everyone who has, like, Louboutins.
You're like, mine's $39.
Yeah, they're like, Louboutins.
I go, I got Lulu's.
And then Lisa goes, wait, where did you get those from?
I was like, your daughter.
And she's like, no way.
She goes, can I get some?
I go, 32 bucks.
Like, hey.
And Andy complimented
them and i was like i actually wore these on watch what happens live too so lulus yeah and you know
i'm so obsessed also with um unreal fur oh my god we talked about this yes at ariana's birthday
party the jackets and shoes that we wore were unreal fur and now i have like almost every coat
yeah i think the last time i saw you i was, is that my jacket or do we have matching jackets?
Yeah, you had that one and then I ended up getting that one too because I was like, I can wear this with jeans and everything.
Yes.
What is your must-have beauty product?
You know, I'm really big on exfoliating my face.
And also, I love a good like hydrating mask.
You know those masks where like you just, the
paper mask.
Yes.
I've been like doing that like every night.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, I feel like that's my go-to and I love coconut oil.
I put coconut oil all over my body and my vagina.
I use it as for lube.
Like I put it in your hair.
I put it in my hair.
I cake it on my face at night before I go to bed every single night.
Like literally I look like a glossy, crazy lunatic when I go to bed because it's in my hair.
Yeah, but your skin is glowing.
So clearly you're doing something right.
I know.
Yeah.
I love that coconut oil.
Who would you say is, like, your, like, fashion icon or inspiration or, like, who would you look to for that kind of stuff?
You know, it's so weird.
you look to for that kind of stuff?
You know, it's so weird.
I, for what I do with fashion is I go on Pinterest and I kind of just like look at, see what's trending and what's coming up for the next season.
And I go shopping by myself.
I actually don't like people's opinion because I am shopping for myself only.
And I feel comfortable and I'm all about comfort.
Like half of the time, if you see me out, if I'm not on a red carpet or going to an
event, I look like a homeless person. I'm all about comfort like half of the time if you see me out if I'm not on a red carpet or going to an event I look like a homeless person like I I'm the same way my mom's always like
Sheena brush your hair do this I'm like mom I don't care I'm going to Walmart yeah especially
if us we have to do our makeup every day it's like the days we have off I will not wear makeup
I will not brush my hair I will I'll brush my teeth but I will just literally look like a
homeless person and I'm cool with that that's the one thing with doing my show in Vegas six nights a week.
It's like I only have Wednesdays to not wear makeup, but then I'm here on Wednesdays and
I want to look pretty when I'm in LA because I'm only here for one day.
So it's like literally every day lately, the eyelashes, the this, the that.
I'm so proud of you because I cry when I have to do it three days in a row, let alone six.
Yeah.
I love just no makeup.
And that's why I got my eyebrows microbladed.
That is the best thing because then it's like on those days where you don't have makeup
I need to get that done.
You can't even tell.
Oh my God.
It's amazing.
I'm getting them touched up actually next week.
Wow.
Yeah.
How long are you in Vegas till?
Like when is that?
So I'm doing my show.
It's called Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man.
And it's six nights a week at the Paris Hotel.
We're doing eight shows a week right now.
Every night except Wednesday.
It's at 7 every night.
11 also on Fridays and Saturdays.
And Chester and I are going to be there until May 6th.
Wow.
So that is.
I have to go.
Ariana and I are going.
Oh my God.
It's coming up.
It's in like a few weeks.
I'm already done.
Which is crazy.
Because you still need to come.
Yes.
And, yeah, then I'll be moving back here for the summer.
I want to get a place by the beach.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
I want to do that, too.
Yeah.
I just, I feel like after living in Vegas for so long, I need to come back and not move
into the same, move back into the same apartment I shared with my ex-husband and spend a lot of time
with my ex-boyfriend.
Like, I just feel like there's just, like, a lot of, like, bad juju and memories and
things that I just, when I'm even there for the one day when I'm here, it's just, I feel
weird.
And, like, I don't have Penny and Salem with me, so it's just, like, really lonely if no
one's over.
And I just really want a fresh start when i move back and i think the
beach no uh for now until i move back but i'm gonna be back in a few weeks already like it's
gone by so quickly and i want a place by the beach and first of all i think we had this conversation
i told you i was like i think you should move and have a fresh start and i get it like you know
sometimes our rent is really cheap especially if we've been living here for a long time so it's like i don't want to do that but
girl you're working your ass off and you're making money now it's like you need to live your dream
yeah living by the beach and letting go of some of your old things definitely gotta do it i think
it'll just be a good fresh start and then you should move to the beach and then we can be
neighbors oh my i'm actually moving in with my best friend alex we're getting a house together
but i told her i'm like look we're gonna get a house together but then we're also gonna get a
place by the beach so we can have both that's my dream yeah that'd be so fun yeah i gotta keep on
doing the speaking engagement so i can afford it because you know hosting at sir is not paying all
the bills not all of them but it definitely helps but um yeah well speaking of sir um we should get over there yeah make it while it's
still happy hour i know i'm so excited get some drinks let adam cut us some limes you know
oh i feel bad i give him such a hard time sometimes and then jack's called him a dishwasher
oh how dare jack i know i'm like well he does kind of make sure the glass is behind the bar
wait he started out at the bar back and now he's bartending?
No, he's still bar backing.
He's trying to bartend, but it's like every time Lisa comes in and is like, make me a
drink, it's like, he makes a good one, then he makes, he's just inconsistent.
Gotcha.
So hopefully by like summer, he can figure it out.
And then, you know, I mean, summers, I mean, everyone wants to come to LA every day out
of the
year because it's the best place ever but especially in the summer like sir is so much fun
and um but you know what it's hard to move up at sir because i've been begging lisa to make me a
server forever and she's like no you're such a good host just stay hosting i'm like oh my god
i'll trade you because i've been begging to be like downgraded so i can wear cute clothes and
get out of this damn that's, but you know we have uniforms
now, like these black dresses. What? Yeah, as
hosts. We can't just wear black
whatever we want. Okay, I guess I haven't noticed that because I'm only there
once a week and maybe they're
just really cute because... Sometimes I get away with it
and I just wear something else. I'm like, oh, but
you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, this has been fun.
Yes. I've been dying
to get you in here, so i'm so glad we finally did this
thank you for having me thank you for being here and thank you guys for listening you need to if
you haven't already check out billy's website it's me billylee.com and at it's me billy lee
on instagram same on twitter yeah all of it yeah and that's ie's I-E, Billy with an I-E, not a Y.
All right.
Well, we're going to go.
Happy hour at Sir.
Thanks for listening.
And thank you again for being here.
It really means a lot.
I love you.
But before we head to happy hour, just to remind you guys, you can follow me as well
on all social media, either at Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A, or at Shenanigans on Instagram and Twitter as well,
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So, yeah, all right.
Billy and I are going to go happy hour,
and thank you for listening.
Bye.
Bye.
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