Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Building a rapport with Michael Rapaport

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

This week Scheana gets into some NYC scheananigans with actor, comedian and bravo super fan, Michael Rapaport. The two discuss their recent WWHL appearance together, their thoughts on the latest VPR episode and how Michael feels about each cast member. Who does he want to see back on the show? Which Bravo show would he go on? What's next for Michael? Tune in for all the tea!     Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.   Go to www.factormeals.com/teamariana50 and use code teamariana50 to get 50% off your first box     Produced by Dear Media See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. I gotta tell you I'm feeling Alright, today is an exciting day. I am in New York City. I just flew in from Toronto. I came here for the one and only Michael Rapaport getting into some shenanigans with me.

How we doing? I'm good, I'm good. I'm excited to be on the podcast. Excited to be talking to you in the in the crest the precipice almost the apex because we're almost at the finale, almost at the reunion of Vanderpump

Rules 2023. What an incredible incredible and also I will say last week, frustrating season. Yeah. And the reason why I say frustrating, I say it almost in a good way

because keeping track of all the shit that has happened all season long and then tying it back to the past and tying it back to last season and tying it back to four years ago and tying it back to seven years ago and all the Instagram and all the Facebooks and then the rewinds. It was like, what the fuck? How did we get here? I know.

I don't know, but here we are. Have you found that the interest in the show and the popularity of the show has gone to a completely different level? Oh, yeah. I mean, this is a level I don't think we've ever been on. I feel like the first few seasons, we had a lot of hype around us. We were doing shows like The View and big shows like that.

And then I felt like it kind of plateaued for a bit. It died down. We had season six, which is one of my biggest regrets and then you know where was season six it was the rob season so we can just like x nail that and then like season eight you know they tried to bring in a bunch of new people and no one cared about that then we had a pandemic season and everyone coming for yeah yeah yeah yeah and so it was just like where is the show going where can we go and then season 10 came around and here we are with the highest ratings we've ever had i think live oh it's got to be by far yeah it was just under 1.5

this past week this the last episode and then it's like each episode keeps getting crazier right so this week was our original finale which when i watched watched it, I was like, oh my God. This is crazy. How long ago did you watch it? So I watched it, I guess it was March 22nd, the day before we filmed the reunion. So it was more of a rough cut too. Okay. And now everything has changed and there's a new finale.

Yeah. That's going to air next week. Yes. And then how many parts of the reunion is there? Three. Three. And then I think there's a bonus footage like episode also. Of?

Of different scenes that didn't make it in the show. Right. But I don't know. I haven't seen anything past this week. I have not seen yet. I've only seen the leaked trailer. The trailer that Bravo scrambled to put back out right after that was leaked so right right right I know what I lived and filmed

with Ariana the girls night and with Tom Sandoval but I have not seen that put all together yet you haven't seen the new shit no no only the trailer and i was not prepared to see that trailer when it leaked that morning right i watched it and i was actually i think i maybe sent it to you too no i didn't yes you did okay i was like i was shaking i was like whoa whoa i was not ready for that so when you see when you you know you you guys shoot you film when you see the stuff back you don't know what's going to be and what's not going to be and you you you don't know how it's going to sort of be pieced together and all that stuff so that's that's got to be such a trip well yeah and the skill you know one thing that, you know, like I bullshit around and I joke, but the skill, especially like nowadays, especially on your show and all things on Bravo, you know, like filmmaking and the storytelling and the editing is so well done.

Yeah. I don't think people that are non filmmakers understand that like i've never been on a reality tv show set and i don't know if i ever want to because because i think it'll fuck up the amount of joy and you know uh sort of surprise and interest that i have yeah so it's like i i'm kind of glad but i i do know you know i can read you know the amount of cameras and, you know, and all that, the technical aspect of reality TV. And I don't think people understand, like, you know, just like the storytelling. You shoot so much footage and then you chop it down into 50. So much.

It's so crazy. I mean, the scene that I filmed with Sandoval was like an hour and a half long. Which scene? And then finale. Yes. Which I haven't seen yet. Because I'm like, how are you guys gonna edit that down every single thing i said was important but it's like the final act of the show so however long that is i don't know of the season of the

season yeah don't say the show no of the. We're already picked up for season 11. Oh, of course. Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I was like, oh, that's nice. Do you have any idea when you're going to start shooting season 11? I feel like I'm interviewing you. I know, right? This is what I would do on my podcast.

We usually film any time around my birthday until mid-July is when we started last season. So I would think any time probably in June we would start. They want to keep going while the- Yeah. While the- Yeah, strike while the iron's hot. Because the iron's fucking hot.

Oh my God, it's so hot. It's a lot. I mean, okay, I have seen your vlogs. I love how passionate you get about the show Tom Sandoval Rachel Roquel whatever you want to call her I want to know do you remember where you were when the scandal broke out what were your initial thoughts like let's just get into it when this when when the scandal broke out I was definitely uh my wife told you told me she saw it on on somewhere on social media probably instagram that's that that's the hub right for for for for this kind of stuff

you know twitter's other things I guess you could have seen it on twitter but you know I didn't imagine that it was gonna I mean I didn't imagine it was going to be this, like, I wasn't like expecting the whole thing to go fucking crazy the way it went, you know? And then like, I think like two days after it, then I was like, started to get like frustrated by it and, you know, sort of like, oh shit, like it's going to become like this this sort of you know pop culture of reality culture yeah a moment and then like i said you know going back and sort of piecing together and the thinking and then you know where because one of the things that like you know when i've been really checking out rachel aka rochelle aka raquel is that I can't figure out like like if she's

you know like if she's calculated if she's nuts if she's gone girl gone shit right or if she's like you know uh what did uh Lala call her a demonic a demonic dumb demon a dumb demon yeah or a baby yeah something like that i can't figure it out like i try to see you're telling me i'm like are you manipulative and calculated are you stupid are you what is it because now i clearly don't know have you had this conversation with her i've had this conversation with myself no but if you had that conversation have you asked her like rachel yes no i've not seen her michael i didn't get to film the reunion with her i had a temporary restraining order in place so if she comes back for season 11 i guarantee we're going to be put in the same room together

because that's just how this shit works you know lisa vanderpump's gonna have to host a lot of events because there's not one other person on the show to bring us all together so i have not had a conversation with her i have not gotten an apology from her i have had zero communication since that night here in new york after watch what happens live after you found out after i found out because of the alleged physical confrontation or that what what is she said i punched her did you punch her i did not punch her After you found out? After I found out. Because of the alleged physical confrontation? She said I punched her. Did you punch her? I did not punch her.

No, I did not punch her. I can't really form a fist. Is your restraining order in the state of New York or in the state of California? No, it was in the state of California. So she flew back, waited six days, filed a restraining order. I'm like, so you weren't scared for six days, but then six days later, you're like, no, I'm going to need a restraining order. And do you know where she is right now as we record this podcast?

No, I have no idea. Is she still in a facility? So from what I understood, she was at Miravelle, where they filmed Real Housewives of Orange County. It's like a wellness retreat. Okay. And then what about the alleged, was it Joshua Tree? The Toms went away on a- Big Bear.

Big Bear. They did do Big Bear. And now you know that there's an Instagram photo where they're saying that the two Toms went to Big Bear, but Rachel, a.k.a. Raquel, was on this trip? Yeah. No, her and that girl, Jo, who Schwartz was dating, came and joined them in Big Bear. And this was after everything got blown out. This was before. This was literally like.

Oh, this was before. Yeah. So they went to Big Bear, I don't know january february there were these fans who posted in a facebook chat and was like oh we met them last night right in big bear right and you can't fuck around i mean this these days this day and age you can't do shit you cannot do a fucking thing but the was, I think they thought they were so smart because no one would think anything was going on. It was just like, oh, there's the Vanderpump people.

You know, oh, where's our, oh, Ariana's at home. You know, oh, Sheena couldn't make it or whatever. It didn't seem weird that they were hanging out. To the outside people who didn't really understand the friendship, I think it looked weird. Like to Katie, to Lala, to Allie, obviously they were seeing things differently than we were. Right.

Ariana and I are like, that's not weird. It's not weird that she got in the hot tub with them. It's not weird she dipped out and stayed the night. That was one of the things that really fucking pissed me off last week. Stage left. the night it's not that was one of the things that really fucking pissed me off last week with tom tom sandoval uh with the fucking dipped dipped like he was misusing i know and he was lying and also misusing the term at the same time which really fucking bought and i know and to watch it to watch him give five or six different answers.

Well, number one, you know, that the writers are currently on strike, but there's writers, high end Hollywood television writers that would not be able to write that kind of shit. Yeah.

The dip, the dip, the dip. And what he's telling, uh, when he's telling Ariana dipped, we sung Lisa, he dipped,

uh, she dipped. Who else did he, he did Brock Brock that. telling Lisa he dipped, she dipped who else did he tell? Brock Brock, yeah he dipped she dipped and then you know it's like in the hot tub she took a dip but she dipped but then she

dipped means leaves left, like the term the fucking slang the origins of dip mean dip, y'all. I'm dipping out. Yes. You're leaving. You are exiting the house.

Exiting. Leaving. No longer here. Vamos. Yes. And to be fucking up the slang and lying while you're fucking up the slang, that also got me really fucking angry. I know.

And it's time to get rid of the fucking nail polish. I want him to like everything needs to be dialed the fuck back yeah all of it the whole thing needs to be dialed back the whole thing and and it just but between him and her but particularly her that bambi eyed bitch who it's just such a good term. I know. It is a good one. But she's really fucking fascinating. She's a trip. Because to see her in the former finale episode that just aired, to see her sitting in front of Ariana again and asking about the sex life.

I can't. That was like my biggest crush. See, that shit's, that's deviant. Shit, that's devious yes and like fucked up yeah it was like what do you what do you would dr joyce brothers are like you're a sex are you a sex therapist like what are you asking this question for it's like she was gaslighting ariana to break up with him was like well you know when i knew i wasn't happy anymore and it was just the watching it and seeing like knowing what she was doing at the time and then saying this to one of her closest friends it just I still have a hard time wrapping my head

around it I just watched it again I hadn't watched it since before right before the reunion so a little over a month ago I'm watching it again again. I'm just like, what the fuck? And when was the last time you spoke to Ariane? Like you speak to her all the time. Yeah, yesterday. So where's her head at with everything? I mean, she's in a good place now. Like now she's doing really well.

But I mean, initially, not at all. Has she seen Rachel, a.k.a. Raquel? No, no one has. Did she see her at the reunion? Yes. She filmed the reunion, and then no one's seen her since then. Has there been a trailer for the reunion that's come out yet? No.

Okay, so I was going to say, what can you say about the reunion? Yeah. Is it going to live up to people's expectations? I certainly think so. I mean, all of our reunions get so heated. So this one was no different. But, you know, there's people storming off. There's people almost fighting. There's people yelling.

I mean, it's everything you would expect from a reunion. Okay. But yeah, watching that conversation back. And then even like last week, when you see Sandoval lying about not leaving the barbecue in time. And he's like, well, no, I mean, he, yeah, he left, but I thought you wanted to be alone.

It's like, that's the best you could come up with right now. Yeah, that was fucked up. That was fucked up. And also you can't get a ride Take an Uber So we were in Newport Coast In like the Crystal Cove area

Apparently in like Crystal Cove There's Ubers everywhere Right So we were there His friend said he was leaving And I guess Lala and her mom witnessed This conversation And he was like alright cool go And then and her mom witnessed this conversation and he was like

all right cool go and then they hear him on the phone with Ariana and he's like oh um I guess Jason left and now I can't get a car and so I'm gonna stay and they're like you can get a car you're lying you're lying clearly was lying and it was it was wild that was one of the most bugged out episodes. Do you think that, like, if you took, like, all the episodes ever, do you think, I mean, I know it's kind of like the dust needs to clear off for episodes before you say, but where would you put that episode in most? That, to me. It was so good with the backwards and the forwards.

The rewind shit was when Lala was sitting with James, DJ James Kennedy, DJ James Kennedy, respectfully. When she was sitting with DJ James Kennedy and they went to the rewind and to think out of all the people, fucking Ken. Yeah. I know. To think that fucking Ken was the one who really sort of opened up the whole thing.

Yeah. And he just did it inadvertently in passing. Yeah. But he just did it inadvertently in passing. Yeah. But I would love, what about Lisa in terms of like what she knew, what she doesn't know? Does it matter what she knows, what she doesn't know? Like is Lisa hands off with you guys?

Like because. In that sense she doesn't want to get involved. But I also don't think she knew anything. I think she was seeing some stuff was off. It's like why are you lying? Why are you hanging out when Ariana's not there? This is weird. But to us who were in it, we didn't

think it was weird. It was like, oh yeah, Rick Hall's with the Toms. That's not weird because no one ever thought anything other than Katie and Lala. What do you know now? Again, I feel like I'm interviewing you. What do you know now about the Toms relationship? I'm not sure.

I know Schwartz is in Australia right now filming a show. So I don't know if they're kind of on a little friendship break or what. I have not talked to him in a few weeks. I don't know. Because, I mean, Standoval put him in an impossible situation by telling him about a one night stand, but then telling him about the full affair. And then it's like,

when did you really find out? Because now he fucking, let me tell you something, dudes, we will, you, he knew he, I'm not saying I know that for sure,

but I'm saying based on the way close, close guys talk, especially that age, he knew. See, and then there's like a few scenes in the last two episodes where we're all at glamping and you see Schwartz go, be careful, Brock, Tom, Raquel has a type, and she's like a type for blood, and he's like men who are taken. But Schwartz already knew then. Sandoval had already told him by glamping.

In between the wedding and glamping, Schwartz found out. Right. So you're just like doing these digs. And then is that why you wanted to like fist bump Raquel and not make out with her anymore? Because now you knew because they never made out again. But I thought she knew. I thought he knew before.

I thought he knew at your wedding. He said he found out after the wedding. He said he found out after the wedding. He's on record saying he found out after the wedding. Hasn't Lala, wasn't Lala saying that she doesn't believe that? I mean, none of us know what to believe anymore. I don't believe that.

You know, I just, I couldn't believe that Schwartz. They're fucking wild, man. Yo, that fucking Rachel, that fucking Raquel, they're fucking wild. Literally. She's bugged out. She is a trip. I mean.

You can literally, I tell all actresses that I'm friendly with, I'll always say, you watch Housewives, you watch Bravo, and I'll go, you need to watch these shows because you could be so inspired, like, as an actor, as an actress, particularly as an actress because the majority of her women. Yeah. Because as a character study, if you watch her, there's no indication that she, when she's talking to Ariana, there's no indication.

When she's like, you guys are my best friends and you guys are my core group and these are the best at her birthday. Right. You don't see any like you know normal people you could pick up like a something you don't see anything like no she plays that shit straight and that's why I'm like yo what's your deal right and that's what makes me question everything with her because I'm like how did I never see any of this how did I believe all of this how did you get away with it for as long as you did

and then it's like watching it back when I see the words coming out of her mouth and I'm looking in her eyes and it's just like is there darkness is there anything is it a blank slate is it just like what I I don't know like this person, who filed a restraining order against me, I do not know that person at all. That shit's crazy. It's so crazy. It's wild is putting it mildly. But the show must go on.

Because when we were on Watch What Happens Live, there was like you or Andy were saying something, and I don't know what. The show must go on. Because when we were on Watch What Happens Live, there was like, you or Andy were saying something, and I don't know what. The show must go on. Yeah. When you're like, well, where are you going to go? And he's like, we're going to figure it out. We always do, because that's the thing,

is there's always one person on the show, whether it's me, Ariana, James, there's one core cast member who can still bring everyone together. If they throw something, they can invite everyone. You know, James did it with the beach day. Right. He invited everyone. Right.

I've been that person a lot. Ariana's been that person a lot. There's no longer that person outside of Lisa Vanderpump. So for season 11, the only way we're all coming together is Lisa better be throwing a lot of events. I don't know if it's Vanderpump dogs. I don't know if it's a pump closing. Grooming some dogs or brushing some dogs or do a clip in some dog nails or something because there's no one else bringing everyone together.

So I, at this point, yeah, I don't see it changing. And is James still with his, what's his girlfriend's name again? Yeah. They're still together.

Little Allie. How old is little Allie? I love her. She's like 27, I think. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

But we love her. Okay. Yeah. We just did stagecoach with them. Oh, right, right, right. And then they came to my birthday on Sunday. This past Sunday? Yeah.

And who else from the cast came to your birthday? Katie was there. Okay. Ariana. Okay. Jax, Brittany, Kristen. Were you filming? Are you allowed to say where you filmed? No, I vlogged. Yeah, so stay tuned for that. But then I was like right when Kristen walked in and then James

and I was like, oh yeah, I guess I wasn't thinking about all of this. Right. And then Allie met Kristen and, but I know like, oh, yeah, I guess I wasn't thinking about all of this. Right. And then Allie met Kristen. But I know Kristen, she has nothing bad to say about Allie. And she was really nice about her on Watch What Happens Live as well. But, yeah, it was a fun party since the MTV Awards got canceled.

We had no plans that day. Our plan was, you know, Graham and MTV. You guys were going to go to the MTV Awards? Yeah, we won. No, I know. Oh, right, you guys were in that. Our plan was, you know, You guys are going to go to the MTV Awards? Yeah, we won! No, I know, but you guys were in that. We were presenting, nominated, and then we freaking won. Right. And we just accepted it like it was 2020 from

my dining room. Right. Yeah. Shit. The whole strike, all of that. But it's crazy because reality TV, I mean, I think this writer's strike is going to go on for a few months yeah this is this is where you separate the fucking men from the fucking little boys because reality tv yeah so as a scripted actor yes how is this strike affecting you right now right now it's

not affecting me but you know it because it just started it's gonna it's going to catch up with everybody because you know i don't want to misspeak on certain things in regards to the strike but you know there's still things that you know like that if they were sort of let me just you say if they were handed into the writers guild they can go into production. Then it becomes, do you want, as an actor, excuse me, to do something that's in production while it's striking, and are you not supporting the strike? You know, I have to sort of get the deal on that.

But this strike is going to be fucked up because of, you know, obviously money's always an issue, and streaming's an issue. But the thing that I didn't realize how much of an issue was, and an issue but the thing that i didn't realize how much of an issue was and i just started playing around with this this app is this ai shit is real oh yeah i didn't realize how the chat gtp whatever it is yeah you know like that that it has these

capabilities are like you know somebody was saying like you know if you if you have a book obviously there's different levels of it but if there's like a book that's being turned into a script, you know, the book can sort of, you know, give you an outline in a first draft, not to say that you won't need writers to punch it up, writers to form, formulate it. But the fact that it can sort of give you a parameters of a, you know know it could take a book and turn it into a script that right there is insane yeah and it's just going to get better and better and better and better better that shit's crazy that tripped me out and and and one thing i know about the strike is that as of now the studios haven't said yeah we're not fucking with ai they haven't like

said we're not doing it oh so that's a problem yeah no I've seen it Brock will literally just be sitting at his computer and he'll just say like write me a poem about this and then it's just like boom right there instantly it's wild yeah that's crazy and what it's doing like when it's like taking like you know Tupac and making, you know, or Michael Jackson singing. I'm like, what the fuck? But that is that along with the obviously the money, you know, money always been an issue that this strike is going. I think that the strike is going to last a long time because, you know, when streaming first started, wherever many years ago was, you know, when you would do a show like on Netflix, like, oh, I'm

just doing, like, almost Netflix was like this, like, C-level thing to do a show. Yeah. Now it's top A-plus level place to do a show. Oh, totally. Hulu and Amazon, they weren't doing shows, so it's coming to a head. Yeah. And as far as fans, the fans out there,

you know, your favorite shows are, you know, like if you're expecting it to come in September, it's not going to come in September and the late night shows and all that shit. Yeah. I don't know how it's going to work, but you should be happy doing a reality show. I'm very happy to be in the unscripted. Who's laughing now?

Right. Who the fuck is laughing now? Right in the unscripted, unscripted world. Yeah. So crazy. Okay. I got a ton of questions for you before we get into those. Just going to take a quick little break. Yeah. So crazy. Okay. I got a ton of questions for you before we get into those, just going to take a quick little break. Okay. All right. It is that time when I talk to you

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at factor meals.com slash team ariana 50 to get 50 off your first box all right a lot of questions came in for you okay show gd what bravo show would you want to be on to be honest i'm such a fan of the Bravo shows like I was saying that if I was on one it would in my opinion jeopardize something that particularly me and my wife get so much joy out of like so that being said I mean I if I was gonna say which one would I realistically, could I realistically be one? It would, I mean, I couldn't be a real housewife. But could your wife? My wife, she would be sort of a good real housewife. But as much as I talk shit, my wife just talks.

Like she just talks. That's great for reality TV. That's great for reality TV, but also like, you know, not necessarily great for reality that's great for reality tv but also like you know not necessarily great for her or us because i'd be like what the fuck you say you know like i'd be like what the fuck are you talking because she just talks like she's very very unfiltered in terms of she's not not necessarily like uncensored but she's like just unfiltered like she is who she is because people have talked to us about doing some stuff

and I was always like yo you need to make sure you're aware of what's going on like be a fucking professional you know don't get don't be you know that would be my concern but that would be I mean I'm such a fan so I don't know where I would fit in I don't know where I would fit in and what

show but I mean it would have to be like a, a husband of my wife on a, a real housewives of New York would be my shit. Yeah. But I couldn't, I, unfortunately I couldn't be a real housewife. Right.

In a perfect world. I would be a real housewife. I could maybe say I'm identifying as a real housewife and be on the real housewives of New York. Right. I mean, what the fuck? So how long have you been a Bravo fan?

It's been a while. Yeah. I'd have to track back, but it's been a while. I mean, I'd have to figure out the year. Like from like the original housewives, like season one? Season two of New York, or I don't know which came first at this point. Was New York the first? New York was the first, right?

I thought Orange County. Or was it Orange County? No, Orange County is going on like season 17. Orange County. Yeah, Orange County. Orange County. Because Vicky Gumbles is the OG of the OC. She's like the OG, OG.

Yeah. OG of the OC, respectfully. So I got into it from New York and Atlanta. And I don't remember which one was first. I think it was New York. But the way I got into Bravo and Real Housewives, it's like I remember New York used to come on on Sundays, I believe. Or Atlanta would come on on Sundays.

But let's say New York was on Sundays, and I would all day Sunday football, football, football. And I remember one particular Sunday, like my fantasy football wasn't going well. And I, you know, cause like we had it sectioned off. Like the bedroom is for my TV and football's like in my, like my room. Yeah.

But I gave up on my football that day. And I was just like, oh fuck it. Let me just, I can't complain. Cause I'm not watching my football. You watch. And I was just watching New York and it was Bethany and Ramona in them and I was like, what the fuck is their deal? And my wife started explaining, well, this one's this, this one's

that. And then I was just kind of like, kept watching. And it gets you hooked in. Especially if you don't judge. And I wasn't judging it because I was just like, what the fuck is going on here? What has happened? Like, you know, and the fact, oh, and then Jersey with the Judices and the Gorgas.

Oh, yeah. That fighting was very, very, very Sopranos. Very, very New York. Very New Jersey. And like, I was like, what the fuck? And then I just kept watching. Yeah. And then I just love it.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I watch. I then I just kept watching. Yeah. And then I just love it. Yeah. I mean, that's what I watch. I watch sports and reality TV. I watch other shows, but the majority of what I watch, my must see TV is my reality shows and sports.

I love that. That's a fact. Yeah. I remember the first time I met you, it was maybe like season two. It was like in Beverly Hills, a little gifting suite. They, I don't even know if they do those really anymore, but it was maybe like season two it's like in Beverly Hills a little gifting suite they I don't even know if they do those really anymore but it was like for like the Emmys or the Oscars and we would always get invited to these little gifting suites right and I have watched you on TV for as long as I can remember right but you knew who I was and I was

like oh wait what right and I was like oh my he watches. And ever since I've done a podcast, I've always wanted to have you as a guest. I know we've talked about it over the years. And then we just did Watch What Happens Live together. We didn't get a podcast then. So I was so happy that we were finally able to make this work. Besides me, Michael Rappaport, what would be your top three celebrities that you were like,

oh shit, that they recognize you, that you were fans of? Miley Cyrus. Where'd you meet her? At her house, actually. So our little sisters used to hang out a lot when they were younger. And it was Noah's birthday with Liam as well. It was like a joint birthday party. And I met Miley.

And then we had hung out a couple times are you serious yeah yeah so that was like very surreal and she watched the show yeah so at the time her best friend was telling her about the show and she's like this is sheena she's on that show i've been telling you you need to watch she's like i know i gotta catch up i need to watch it and then the next time i saw her at tom tom she was like like, oh my God, Sheena. And then she had already like watched it. And we hung out that entire night and it was so fun. That's cool.

So she was definitely up there. Cause I've been a fan of her. Right. And then, um, Chrissy Teigen and John legend, he did a piano version of Good as Gold. They sang it on Instagram Live in the pandemic. And that was just crazy. Right. Hearing J-Lo the other day on The View said that she's seen the show.

But I wasn't quite sure if J-Lo was telling the truth or not. I think she's heard of it, at least. Yes, yes. Everybody's heard of it. Yeah least. Yes, yes. Everybody's heard of it. Yeah, Chris Pratt. Right. That, I just saw Karen. Right.

They were doing some little interview thing in a cute little studio. And he was like, well, yeah, because she watches Vanderpump Rules. And I was like, it's everywhere again. It's like the cover of the New York Post. It's on CNN's homepage. I mean, it's like the cover of the new york post it's on cnn's home page i mean it's been everywhere and and and who was at the was it ariana and lala was at the white house correspondent yeah with lisa that is crazy like cracking jokes about it like at the white house like what and did you talk to them about it about being like at the white at the course i haven't seen them yet

no so we haven't like actually caught up on how all that went. I saw Ariana's recently. Because when you see politicians and they recognize you, that's got to be bugged out. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, like the good, the bad, the whatever, like, you know, like maybe reality TV could bring the parties together.

Yeah. Right. Vanderpump rules. You guys should hold like a, like a, like a, like a, a forum for the Republican

and Democrat Party oh my god at BravoCon that would be sick that I don't know how well that would go no I think you guys could because you'd soften them yeah because in a way politicians are like reality stars yeah you know what I mean they have their personas yeah I see what you're saying and there's there's there's good guys and there's bad guys and it it's all based on people's opinions. But like we see as civilians, politicians in one way. You don't see them at your coffee place. You see them on TV.

You see them on Fox News. You see them on CNN. You see them at, you know, giving their press conference. We see them in very sort of, they kind of have the same kind of feeling like you'd recognize them from any angle you're like oh shit there's whoever it might be right not to go down the political road anyway go ahead yeah well kind of on that topic erica underscore on the town wanted to know what's one issue that you wish people were more educated on? I mean, when I say people, I mean, one issue that I need to be more educated on is, I mean, there's so many fucking things.

It's overwhelming the amount of shit that's going on in this country. You know, I mean, I think, you know, that term fake news, you news, it's so fucking challenging to get the real truth about a story. It's so fucking hard. It's so hard and there's more outlets than ever, yet it's more impossible. Because if you read, I don't care what side of the political fence you're on, if you only listen and watch one side, you're only going to get that point of view. If you only listen to the other side, you're only going to get that point of view. So, I mean, you know, what's real at the border, immigration,

like what the fuck is really real? Because you turn on one station, shit is, you know, this. You turn on another station, shit is, and it's like it's just not it's not right it's not right it's not right that it's like they confuse us all that shit's really frustrating me so i would say i would say i would say you know immigration just at the top of my head yeah top my list for sure all right back to bravo go eliza underscore von 57 what did you think about theresa and louis breaking of the fourth wall have you are you caught up yeah of course yeah i love when shows do that personally do you i i feel like maybe our new finale that i haven't

seen yet there might be some of that because like just the conversations we have, you know, and at the reunion, obviously we break the fourth wall. But when I see that on a reality show, it's so fascinating to me because it reminds you, you're watching a TV show. Yes.

And I think like Teresa and Louis doing it, you know, talk about being in the fucking trenches for year after year after year after year with Teresa Giudice. And, you know, I mean, I love it. I don't have I love it. You know, I don't know what the context of her question was. I love it. You know, not to go down a real house ice in New Jersey, you know, rabbit hole, although I'm sure your fans probably are.

You know, you know the the Teresa Louie relationship is concerning you know Louie's concerning I started was like I thought Louie was not I just I think it the whole thing is concerning it's it's concerning and and I you know one thing as a fan like of Jersey like I just want I sometimes want to sit down with Teresa and Joe her brother Joe and just sort of mediate because I feel like they miss each other. And you know what's a weird thing about their relationship? They act like a divorced couple that hates each other. And I'm like, yo, you're brothers and sister.

Like, this shouldn't be that fucking hard. They act like a divorced couple that fucking is sharing kids. Yeah. And they just, I'm like, yo, just who cares? Forget the past. You've said things. She's the thing. You're brother and sister.

You weren't married. There's no kids. Like you're not fighting over like custody or money. It shouldn't be. It's very fucking. It is dysfunctional. Yeah. That shit is dysfunctional.

And I'm sure other people in their life have had this exact conversation and it all goes, but she this. But it's like, because it's, it's crazy. You know, if you like, just don't speak to that person anymore. Right. It's the brother. Yeah. It's not your ex-wife or your ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend.

So it's, it's fucked up. Their relationship, their relationship, you know, like I was saying on my vlog last week, Their relationship, you know, like I was saying on my vlog last week, as far as most fucked up things, Teresa Giudice and Joe Giudice and Joe Gorga and all that, I think is number one. Obviously, you know, when people like, you know, Jen Shaw on on in, you know, going to jail and sorry. And, you know, the Erica Jane situation, you know, I don't sort of categorize them in terms of gossipy fodder because they're more serious. But outside of Jude Ice and Gorga, Scandival is number two. It's their most frustrating, fucked up things.

Because of the way it's sort of played itself out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's frustrating. Just like Scandival is frustrating. Like last week's episode's frustrating. Just like Scannable is frustrating. Like last week's episode was frustrating. Let's call it the rewind episode was frustrating. Jason and Donna Forever,

do you think Tom and Rachel will ever be accepted by the group? Do you see any coming back for them? Tom and Rachel have to be accepted by the group. That's the fan in me. Do they? They just have to still be on the show. How do you see any of us accepting them back?

You can't accept them back. Exactly. Because you're like, right, because you guys are actually like friends. Yeah, like they actually fucked up. They actually betrayed us. They actually lied to us. They actually did all of this fucked up shit to us and used us to cover it up. They used you like pawns.

They literally like used me. You like, what are you guys? We'll be like, oh, well, we just all hung out. You know, it was just a group of us. Like, oh, I just went to go see Sheena. And like, oops, Raquel happened to be there. I think they're trying to make it work. and like, oops, Raquel happened to be there.

I think they're trying to make it work. From what I've seen on the internet, like TMZ videos that, you know, they set up for themselves. And it's like, I mean, they should. You don't go through all of this, put everyone through all of this shit, turn your life upside down to not try and make it work. We need marriage.

We need like five-year anniversary. Like we need like, we need like you guys to become like the Brady Bunch. That's the only way this could sort of be like you know what this was meant to be this this couple this is super love this is ozzy and sharon this is uh uh you know this is forever love this is like an iconic love affair through fire through storms tsunamis they were right that's the way that they'll prove everybody wrong. And you'll have to go, you know what? They just love each other.

And so sorry. You see in the trailer for the finale when she's like giddy and almost laughing. It's like, oh, this one's so horribly wrong. It's like, it's so gross and weird. Cardax wants to know, should Tom Schwartz be canceled too? Because he is an accomplice and weird. Cardax wants to know, should Tom Schwartz be canceled too because he is an accomplice and liar? I don't know if he, listen, I'm not down with the canceling,

but Tom Schwartz, you know, my instinct about dudes and friendships with dudes is he knew. That's just my instinct. So you think genuinely he knew

and he kissed her to cover up for him. You think it went that deep. I don't think Schwartz had that in him. You don't think he added that? No, not to cover up in that way. I'm not necessarily thinking he said, thinking it was to cover up.

I just think he knew. I think he knew. Listen, if you're trying to get with somebody and you're a dude, like, you know, yeah. It's like your friends would be like, yo, yeah, yo.

He knows. He knew something. He knew something was inappropriate or looming inappropriate. Or even if you say that, like, yo, that's not, he knew. Yeah. That's just my feeling. Kara underscore Liz wants to know your thoughts on Tom's passion speeches

towards Rachel on Tom who's Sandoval on his what his like passion speeches how he's always like pumping her up and yeah that was fucked up that shit last week at the glamping and you know and what did he call her

he's like you know you're oh you're a badass and i don't know like that shit's crazy it was bugged out that was so in front of all of us yeah that was crazy that was crazy and then they're like hugging while ariana's on one bed then they're on the other and that was crazy that night when we were glamping we all piled in one bed together and watched this like weird cartoon that sandoval did a voiceover to and we're just like all in the zone with the galaxy lights and we're all like cuddling together on the bed i'm not thinking anything's weird you know it's like i'm laying on brock then raquel's kind of laying on me and then there's sandoval and ariana and

schwartz and now i'm thinking about like oh my god we were all in the same bed there was some weird shit going on when you're there that's weird shit yes what do I think of him her pump him pumping her up not good I am so thankful that I got COVID that week because I wasn't able to go to that night at surf oh right right right if I would have walked in and saw Katie going off on Raquel, having no backstory context, not knowing anything that, you know, Katie had filmed and all of that. If I had seen that, I would have just went off.

I would have defended her. I just had that almost blind loyalty to her. And you would have look like an asshole exactly I was like thank god you and Katie are cool yeah okay yeah she came to my birthday we did our I did see Ariana actually after the DC thing but we didn't talk about it we just did our acceptance speech which was like a minute and then they had to leave but But you and Katie are like, you guys are good now. Yeah. Wow. That's big.

Yeah. She was just in New York. I just missed her by a day. I was talking to her this morning. I was flying in and she was flying out. Is she seeing somebody now? I don't think she's like seeing one person specifically. She's just dating and she needs.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, good. Yeah. I know she had a really good time in Europe. They all did they were out there right right they traveled around a bunch right that looked fun i feel like too now the more that i've hung out with katie in the last like couple of months i feel a much

lighter version of her she just seems happier and it's just it's it's nice to see it's different i didn't feel that way at the beginning of summer. I felt just like this dark cloud. And that's when the wedding was. Yeah. But now that we've hung out, I'm like, this is the Katie who I used to be friends with. What's your, again, I'm asking you, what's your biggest regret that's been on the show? This season or in general? Just say like, or it's hard to say one, but if you're like, there's one thing that I wish.

I mean, this season, I really do wish that I had a conversation with Katie sooner. Beforehand. Yeah. I don't think it would have escalated to where it did. I think she should have still been at the wedding. I think Christina could have been at the wedding.

If we all just sat down and had a conversation sooner. Right. Instead of the petty back and forth, insults, name calling. Right, right, right. Like we needed to just have a sit down adult conversation. Right. But we were both hurt in different ways. Right.

Based on both of our actions. Right. So that's my one regret of this season. And what about the entire career of Vanderpump? Entire run of Vanderpump? All of season six. Right. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, that's my most cringe work I've ever done. Did you ever imagine when you started doing this show, what did you think you were doing when you started doing Vanderpump Rules? What did you imagine you were getting yourself into? What did you foresee it? Was it just a job? Was it an opportunity? What did you think it was

going to be? There's no way you would have thought you'd be doing it this many years later. No! Going on season 11, I could have never imagined. And it's season 11, but you've been shooting for how many years? So we shot our pilot in October 2011. So it's 13 years. Almost. yeah then our first season we

shot in 2012 and then it was on air in 2013 right so we're going into 13 years that's so crazy that that's wild so no I could have never imagined this like the hills was on for what six seasons that amazing like we could only hope to get that far. But what did you think you were like? What did you like? I know it's hard to say because it's so long, but like, what are you like? I'm doing this. What did you?

I thought it was going to be a show based on people working in the service industry, trying to make it in the entertainment industry. So it was going to follow us on auditions and show, you know, like me want to be pop star at the time and acting and all of that. I really thought that that was the direction the show was going in. Right. But then it just kind of pivoted from that. It takes on a life of its own.

Yeah. You know, it's like life happens. And because we are a group of real friends. Right. And these are our real lives. How old were you when you first started? 26. Damn.

Yeah. I just turned 38 this weekend. You, that, yo, that is fucking bugged out to have yourself documented like that through those years. That's crazy. It's not like, you know, I have television shows and, you know, some interviews and shit like that. But it's a different thing. Like, that's bugged out. Yeah.

No, it's crazy to have that much of my life to be able to look back on. It's like, obviously, now I do YouTube and, like, I have those vlogs. And that's all, like, happy and fun and, like, family videos and whatnot. But when I see people pulling scenes from, like, season three. Are you like, what the fuck is going on? Like, are you just, like, shaking up like shaking also i'm like i was right i was on to sandoval from the beginning from miami girl i was like he did it he did it he did it right but it became a thing where it was going to possibly end my friendship with ariana if i kept going out about it so i just had to say okay this is who

my best friend is choosing to date so now you are also my best friend we're all going to live happily ever after and him and I became even closer than we were before we started the show because there was no other option Ariana wanted to be with him you know Miami girl that

you will see next week some more about that story we take it all the way back. My conversation with Sandoval is a full decade worth of friendship in one act. Like in one conversation. Do you know how long the finale finale is? Is it like four? It should be four hours.

Right. I think it's like another one of the longer episodes. Like an hour and 20 minutes or something? Yeah, ish. On TV, like hour 15? Yeah, like hour 15. Oh, man. We need more.

We need fuck. Oh, so maybe some of that will pop up in those extra scenes. Maybe. They're going to do more. That's the thing. It's like, I don't. They're going to do more. They're going to do more.

If you had an hour and a half conversation that you said could be like a whole thing, and it was, let's say hour and a half and we we and we i'm like we chopped it down to 30 minutes just that that alone and then there's other people that shot other there was so much i mean we have tom and ariana you know that scene that they filmed together tom and raquel the scene they filmed together we did a girls night that was basically a funeral james and ally filmed katie and schwartz and who else did james film with sorry Sorry, DJ James Kennedy. I think Lala, maybe Katie. I mean, everyone filmed with everyone. So there's a lot of footage.

All of that to be put in only one episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we need more. I can't wait to see it. No, we need more. We need a bunch more. I know. We need a bunch more.

Okay, so I want you to tell me how you really feel about every cast member on Vanderpump Rules. Okay. Rapid fire. La la. Love her. I love her. I also sometimes want to be like, because I heard, you know, like her talking like Vanderpump, Lisa, you know, about what she wants with her next kid and all that stuff.

And like, I love her. I think her tongue, when I mean like her shade, her shit talking think her tongue, what I mean, like her shade, her shit talking. Because that's what I really, you know, my first two housewives that I really was attracted to in terms of like, I was like, I like them, was Nene and Bethany. And they're both great shit talkers. So that's what I respond to is like the shit talker. Like she's like, I mean, Bambi, I'd bitch. And, you know, what did she tell her to do when she said, Oh fuck.

When she said to our, uh, to Raquel this year, um, did a bitch. It was a good line. Um, not default.

Um, Oh, plug in. No, not plug in, but it was, Oh fuck. It'll come to me.

I know the fans. Anyway. So I love her. Yeah. No, I know exactly what you're talking about. Now I'm trying to think, what did she say? Not, not, not her. Go ahead. No, I know exactly what you're talking about. Now I'm trying to think. What did she say?

It's always something, though. Not devolved. Oh, fuck. Not plug in. Not plug in. Oh, God. I know that there's people listening and watching. Comment below.

Damn it. Anyway, go ahead. Katie. I love Katie. I think she's cool. I want the sandwich shop to be good. I think that Tom shitted on her Again, sometimes I'm like

You don't see the signs Yeah So, I like Katie Ariana I mean, she's sweet She's hard not to like She's very, very, very sweet And very, very likable

Yeah DJ James Kennedy He's funny too He's a great shit talker Yeah i like you know he's one of the people you could clearly see the maturity so that i like you know as far as a reality tv show viewer when you see somebody the maturity but you also still see the old dj james kennedy come out like when he's talking like his shit talking like his tongue like his like he's he's a good rant yeah oh so good and funny even when you don't like him he's

hard not to like because he's funny and I don't think especially when he's not drunk or when he's sober he he I think he's well-intentioned yeah I think he's well-intentioned. I always got that even when he's being a fucking, like you're like, yo, my man, you're a fucking douche. Yeah. But I think he's very well-intentioned. Like he seems like he's a genuinely good person. Yeah. Well-intentioned. Yeah.

That's my long-winded answer. I love that. Schwartz. I can't tell if this motherfucker's dumb or not. He's actually really smart. But you could be smart in a lot of ways book smart no that means nothing yeah that means nothing to me book smart means nothing to me coming from a person who's not incredibly book smart like i'm just like yo do

like when he was on watch what happens live that was yeah oh my god was that cringe that's what i'm saying so i'm like you know like you you know and to do that or watch what happens live at this point and there's a savviness you get yeah you have from being in front of a camera filming doing press to do that that's why i'm like that's why i question the intelligence yeah that's just my opinion likable funny, funny as fuck. Yeah. Whether it's intentional or not, he's fucking funny. He is. And very entertaining. Yeah.

Tom and Rachel, we'll just put them together. They fucked up. Yeah. They got darkness in their eyes. Yeah. Did you see what he just did when he was performing in one of his shows recently? And he was like, he does the song Schwartz's Mom

instead of Jessie's Girl, whatever. And he's like, Schwartzy, can't you see Raquel is not the girl for me and I'm like I obviously know the lyrics of that song but I'm like that didn't make sense because she is the girl for you and not for Schwartz so it was like a gross little dig and disrespect and it was unnecessary and it just wasn't funny it It wasn't funny. If I was him, I would cut, I would, listen, I know everybody likes to make their money and their shit, I would just shut it all down

for right now. Fuck the shows. Don't post. Don't get, just disappear from it. Like, literally, like, try to stay off. I mean, stay on there, but stay off. That's what I would do. That's what I would do. I would do. Because the shows are not a good look.

Any clips are not. You're not going to. You have to just. You're not going to be able to charm your way out of this shit. Yeah. You are not going to be able to charm your way out of this shit. Agreed. And, you know, we've spoken on Ariana the whole time.

So, I mean, on Rachel the whole time. So, I mean, I've. Yeah, that's enough. What more can I fucking ask? Exactly. She had me baff Rachel the whole time. So what, I mean, I've, it's, yeah, that's enough. What more can I fucking ask? Exactly. She had me baffled. She baffling. She's fascinating.

And like I said, all actresses should watch Vanderpump Rules, specifically younger actresses, because you'll be like, oh shit. That's your inspo. You'll get totally inspired.

Okay. Last question. Out of everyone who has been on the show and is no longer on the show who would you like to see return next season and who are you happy is no longer on the show damn that's a good question i would like to see well i i i love him or hate him and when i say love him or hate him i mean love him or hate him. And when I say love him or hate him, I mean love him or hate him. Sandoval, he hasn't exited, but he has to come back. What's her name? Kristen.

No, she's good too. The one, oh man. Jossie? Yes. You would want to see her back? Yes, yes. Okay. I like her.

And is there someone on the show who you are like glad they're gone? No, no. There's no one I'm glad they're gone. And there's no one I want to see go yeah I don't want to see anybody go yeah no everyone needs to stay and then I think we need to bring some people back who would you like to see I mean I'm so close with Jackson Brittany and Kristen honestly like will they come back Jack it seems like they're gone maybe I mean they did all come to my wedding you didn't really see much of them there because you know when you see them on another show you're kind of like all right they're gone yeah you did that to me but that would

be big would people be hyped about that comment below i don't know i think so i like the comment below shit you know i like that i gotta start doing that comment below shit yeah that's my little youtube thing so for those of you watching comment below comment below would you like to see jackson britney come back yeah because i would love that i would love to have our kids documented together on the show more than just my youtube channel right right right i'm so close with them i would love to see that all right all right stay tuned all right so what are you working on right now the only thing worth mentioning uh right now i am on tour doing comedy uh i am going to be in vermont uh i am going to be in burlington vermont

i am going to be in denver i am going to be in providence those are the next couple of shows you could get tickets information in michaelrappaportcomedy.com and that's my shit right now well thank you for the you know because by the time my next time i see you god only knows what kind of fucking mess we'll be talking about it i know i'll be back in a week and it's gonna be you don't know what the fuck you're walking into in a week i know like in a week we might have to do another podcast yeah because the whole world could shift in vanderpump okay right so let's do it hopefully it doesn't because enough is, I mean, people can only take it so much. I know.

But I will be back here over the next few weeks. Good. So if we need to get into some more shenanigans. All right. Well, I appreciate you having me. You can find us at WTF Studios. Yep. But seriously, thank you so much for being here.

I have wanted to do this for so long. Good. This is so fun. Thank you for having me. Do you have anyone else you want to rant about? I've ranted enough. I mean, we've gone an hour.

There's always more, but in the parameters of all things Bravo, I think I've touched on it all and avoided going down rabbit holes of, I could go down a Potomac rabbit hole,

a Salt Lake City rabbit hole. There's always rabbit holes. For me, there's rabbit holes. So I want trying to stay focused in Beverly Hills. Well, thank you so much. This was so fun. Thank you guys for listening. Bye.

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