Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Chicks In My Office w/ the “Chicks In The Office”

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

This week, Scheana is joined in the studio by guests Ria & Fran from the popular Barstool podcast “Chicks In The Office,” and a they’ve got a lot to catch up on! The last time they were all together was hours before the Scandoval affair came to light, when Scheana & Rachel appeared on the Chicks’ podcast together in NYC. What did the Chicks notice during that interview that seemed off? Why did they get backlash from their episode with Scheana & Rachel? And did Scandoval tarnish their lightning bolt branding?   Plus, which Lisa do the Chicks think should return to RHOBH? Are they team Melissa or Teresa? Why aren’t they enjoying this season of the Kardashians? And how do they fare when they are put in the hot seat for a game of trivia? Plus, how did the Chicks end up at the Abbey with Scheana’s mom? Tune in to find out!      Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans  Guests: @chicksintheoffice @mariaciuffo @francescamariano   Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.   Go to www.kiwico.com/shay and get 50% off your first month plus free shipping on any crate line Go to www.visible.com/SAGE to learn more about the campaign and watch "No Straight Answers" on Visible's Instagram and TikTok Go to www.factormeals.com/tearmariana50 and use code teamariana50 to get 50% off your first box Go to www.Stir.com/podcast to get 25% off any Stir subscription package, or send your single friends to try it out!    Produced by Dear Media   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. I gotta tell you I'm feeling good

This party's got me all charged up All right, today, getting into some shenanigans. We've got the chicks in the office, in my office, here in L.A. How are we doing, Rhea and Fran? We're pumped. We're excited to be here. We are so excited to be here. Yes. We've been wanting to catch up with you. We're pumped. We're excited to be here. So excited to be here. Yes. We've been wanting to catch up with you. We haven't seen you since New York just a mere couple of months ago.

The infamous day March 1st. Yes. We have a lot to catch up on. We have so much to catch up on. Y'all haven't been on shenanigans in years. I know it's been a long time. This is long overdue. We always think back to that was our first L.A. trip ever. Like no way. We did the People's Choice Awards. We did a bunch of interviews. We were so excited to come on your podcast. And then I remember you invited us out. Yeah. And you were like, let me take you to all the restaurants. And like we went with your mom and we always talk about that day. People were like, it was the coolest thing ever. She took us to all the restaurants. We went out with her mom

and then we didn't see her for years. We had so much fun. We just live on opposite coasts. I know. Whenever I'm in New York, it is usually a 24 to 48 hour turnaround trip, back to back schedule. I don't have time to see hardly anyone.

So I'm glad we're doing that. I know. We don't come out to LA enough now. We like we're like twice a year, if that. Yeah, we do the same thing. We're here for two days. Yeah, we just try to jam pack everything in at once. But now we're like we we know it a little bit more like that was our first time you showed us the robes. Yeah, great time. So fun. So we have a lot to talk about, but I thought we could maybe just start with a fun little this or that game

before we get into it all. And I'm also now currently struggling with what direction to take the podcast because I've got half of the people who are like over Scandival and half the people who want to still hear about Scandival. So I'm going to kind of split the difference on this. We're going to do a good mix.

We're going to do a couple games. We obviously have to talk about the last time that I saw you guys. I think it warrants talking about Scandival because of the day that we last saw you. Exactly. Was the day. And we've you. Exactly. Was the day. And we've done nothing but talk about the last day without actually talking to you about it.

I know. So crazy. All right. So I'm going to go through and give you a couple options and you'll let me know which you're vibing with most at the moment. Perfect. LVP or Lisa Rinna? LVP.

LVP. So follow up question, though, out of the two of them, who would you prefer to see return to Beverly Hills? LVP. I agree. OK. I think I love I Rinna is so entertaining. Love her. But like it felt like the right time. And LVP has been gone for a while. Yeah. So it wouldn't feel stale. I could be fresh. It would be new drama. I miss the old days of Lisa Vanderpump and Kyle Richards, like shenanigans together when they were like the best of friends.

Yeah. I just wish we can go back to that. Yeah. I wish we could go back to that. Mm hmm. We can't. We can't. We can dream.

Yeah. I feel like that ship has sailed yeah i don't have like an attachment to lisa renna yeah you know i mean she's great tv yeah great great to watch but i grew up watching that early beverly hills right yeah yeah grew up yeah i know i was like young like my parents were watching it yeah and then i, you know, jumped on board. Right. And now I'm like, meanwhile, in my mid-20s working for her. Okay. JFK or LaGuardia? LaGuardia. LaGuardia is brand new and it has been a lot better. Yeah. I just flew in there for the first time after I came from Toronto and it was so great

and so easy and way quicker. It is. It is. I will say for somebody that lives in New York and would love to get to the airport in a fast fashion, taking the train to JFK is very easy. Taking an Uber to LaGuardia is like the only way to do it. And it's that is annoying. Yeah.

Yeah. I just think the airport itself is nicer. Shout out to my brother-in-law who worked on LaGuardia New Terminal which I talk about all the time. But yeah. But now they're working

on JFK so. And I used to be a JFK girl because I'm from Long Island and it was closer. Yeah. But now it's just like LaGuardia. Now what about JFK

or Newark? Well I live in Jersey City so I would Newark is definitely not nicer than JFK but I would Seems easier to I would love to fly to Newark, so I would... Newark is definitely not nicer than JFK, but I would... Seems easier to fly to Newark. I would love to fly to Newark.

No. The new Newark terminal is lovely. These airports are popping off. Yeah, right? I just did a brand new terminal. I forget which one it is, but it also just finished, and it's so Jersey.

It's like all Jersey themed. Yeah. But it's nice. Newark for convenience. I was very impressed when I went into the new Newark terminal. Agreed. Bagel or donut? Bagel. I mean, we grew up on bagels, so I would say bagel, but like I'm really loving a Boston cream donut lately. I don't know why, but I'd bagel. Love that. Bagel. Glass, half empty or half full?

I love that. Glass half empty or half full? You know how I am. Glass right in the middle. We talk about this. You're a realist. Yeah. And I'm more like you're more half full. Yeah. Yeah. Like whatever that that would mean. You're an optimist. Yeah i've never never gave much thought to it yes yes tom tom or something about her oh it has to be something about now 100 yes but i mean tom tom is lisa so yeah the food is good we do i mean you're not gonna knock the food even the food is good you have to like whisper it like Tom Tom's. The food and the drinks are really good.

But I'm dying to try that like Greek goddess sandwich they talk about. Something about her. Like, I can't wait for that to open up. I know. You're going to have to come back.

You're going to have to come back. But that sounds like my dream sandwich. Yeah. I think it's going to hopefully be open next month. So that's, I know the goal.

Good for them. But, yeah. They're going to crush it. I love that they put like pedal to the metal on making sure that that place opened, which know the goal. Good for them. But, yeah. They're going to crush it. I love that they put, like, pedal to the metal on making sure that that place opened, which was so smart.

And now it's like, they'll be flooded with people. It looks amazing, too. I walked by it the other night and it looks so good. I keep seeing TikToks of it. Yeah. People being like,

it looks like it's almost done. Yeah. People are going to line up down the street. Like, it's going to be crazy. I know. It's going to be crazy. That's how Sir was last week for See You Next Tuesday. A line literally out the door, down the street, around the corner.

It was so crazy. And not everyone was able to get in because we were literally at capacity. So Brock and I snuck out the back, went around the corner. I tapped someone on the shoulder and I go, what are we waiting in line for? And everyone just like freaked out. I was like, y'all aren't getting in. So I figured I would just come out.

I'll give you a nice little treat. Yeah, yeah. You guys are knocking inside, but let's talk. Right? Okay. Andy Cohen or Ryan Seacrest? Oh, Andy Cohen.

Yeah. Not even a question. Yeah. Ryan Seacrest seems like a little bit of a noob. Also, he like so fell off, Andy Cohen. Yeah. Not even a question. Yeah. Ryan Seacrest seems like a little bit of a noob. Also, he like so fell off after American Idol.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like he said, I saw that he's in talks to maybe take over Wheel of Fortune. It's Pat Sajak's

retirement. I can see that. And I'm like, that's, that is a good fit, but it's also, I feel like that's when you know you're

going, like you're aging up a little bit. Right. You're hosting Wheel of Fortune. He's just taking away the fun from Andy Cohen. You know what I mean? Yeah.

He's a downer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't like how much they were drinking on New Year's. Mm-hmm. So. I heard. Yep. Yep.

Okay, this one, we're going to get into more later. So, just an answer. You don't even need an explanation. Melissa or Teresa? Melissa. We're going to get into that more later. New York or LA? New York.

Wildfire smoke or a subway car with no AC? It was so bad. So we actually kind of missed the wildfire smoke. I was there for only the wildfire smoke. Yeah, we were in Denver for a live show. And I actually like kind of joked that I had FOMO, that everybody was freaking out and we weren't there. But then we kind of got a little bit of it.

And we were in Minneapolis and they were experiencing it in a different way. And it was not as bad as it was in New York. And even that we were like as it was in New York. And even that we were like, oh, this is awful. Yeah, this is going to sound bad. And I'm going to try to word it the best way possible. You know, as bad as the wildfire smokes are, at least you can like go inside and get away from it when you are stuck on a subway. Yeah. No AC. It's like it's a day ruiner. Like everyone's hot and bothered. And wherever you're on the way to, you're put in a bad mood. Yeah. there's nowhere to go.

Okay, well, speaking of being out on tour, being out on tour or normal routine in the studio? They're so different. Like, you know, the tour, the tour is so fun. So like that's a big part of I would think I would pick that but it's just not sustainable to do like all the time we need to it's like the back to the studio reset and then every few months you can go back out and do it again yeah that's all about balance gotta land somewhere in the middle there you took the words out of my mouth with sustainable it's not like we are yeah I always say I wish I could be and we are not we are not those kind of people totally I feel like I have like the charisma with no talent you know what I mean like I can't get

up there and sing but then I'm like I can't even do the podcast live tour without being exhausted like one makes me think I'm gonna do a show a night but then I'm like but if I was singing my heart out no like it's exhausting so it is so much fun and we love doing it. But like you said, no, we would, we would, we would break down. And when we are out of our comfort zone and routine, which we have been for the past like seven weeks, we've been traveling every week. We're like, oh my gosh. But yeah, probably, probably routine, but we love the tour. Also along the tour lines, Eros tour or the Renaissance tour? Well, I went to the Eros tour and have not i mean beyonce hasn't

been in in the states yet her show so i would personally go era's tour i'm more of a beyonce gal i mean i like taylor swift like no i don't want to hate on her like it scares me i like her music i'm just not like a diehard yeah um but I love like I like you're more of a renaissance tour yeah like I just love that kind of music yeah so I'd probably lean towards yeah love it yay thanks for playing this or that we love a game yes all right we're gonna take a quick little break we're gonna regroup and get into all of the things you guys want to hear. Okay, so I know I've told you guys before about my mom friend who is single but is looking to date, doesn't want to get on just those normal apps, you know? So I told her I heard about Stir, which is the number one dating app designed for single

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talk jersey like where where do we start? Because we're going to go in every direction, but which direction should we start in? Personally, I would like to go with the last time we saw it. It's the elephant in the room. Um, little background information for everybody listening. Sheena and Raquel came to our studio at Barstool, Tix in the Office studio, and we recorded. And, you know, we had a lovely time. You were like there, you know, having Raquel's back.

And after she left, actually, we were like, oh my gosh, she's so nervous, shaky. If you listen back to- She's lying through her teeth. If you listen back to our episode that you guys are on, Rhea and I introed it by saying guys like

i think we need to lay off raquel a little bit like she's stressed like clearly she's stressed like we felt bad for she was shaking like i think she was really nervous like the the schwartz stuff is really getting to her and we did this whole this whole intro of like everyone should take it easy and raquel And then the episode came out and like hours later, the news broke. And we were like, in this same day,

they came out and everyone's like, have you guys heard yourself saying, give her, do you see what happened? We're like, guys, this was recorded two days ago. Like we promised this was not about that.

I'm getting no idea. But apparently you guys left our studio, went right to watch what happens live. And that's where everything happened. And we were like, selfishly, we were like, why couldn't that happen a couple hours earlier in our studio? Like in the halls of Barstool Sports. Yeah, literally, you were our last stop of the day.

We had so many interviews. So I just thought she was a little weird and shaky because she was so overtired of talking about the same thing. And she's not really well media trained. She's not the best speaker. It was a lot. I could do interviews all day long, back to back to back to back, like sign me up. But it was a lot for her. Even after the first one, I was like, we could tell like very long pauses before she would get an answer out. We were like, okay, she's, I literally said to her in the car on the way to you. I said, if you need me to complete your sentences, I got you. I can see you're struggling. She goes,

let's just cancel the last interview of the day. Like, I don't want to do it. I'm tired. And I was like, no, no, no, we're not canceling chicks in the office. This is the one I'm most looking forward to today. We're not canceling. I said, if you need me to complete your sentences, I got you. But we're doing this. It's going to be fun. I promise. Lighthearted, blah, blah, blah. So then we get there. And yeah, I just thought she was tired. She didn't want to talk about it anymore. Who knew that she was just lying with every word? And did you notice because she was doing this all day, she would direct the questions and the answers to me. Yes. And she was looking at me as you're asking the question. She's looking at me and I'm like,

she asked the question. Why are you talking to me? We said that after you left, we were like, kind of felt like she was looking at Sheena to like answer every question for her. And you did so nicely. You know what I mean? Like you did it. But I was like, I don't know what's going on here. Like we literally said that when you guys left because it was just bizarre. So here's my theory. I think she got so used to lying to my face personally for seven months or longer regularly that it was more comfortable for her to deliver the same line to my face, because she's like, I'm used to lying to Sheena. Sheena's not going to be on to me. Sheena loves

me. These girls, I can't make eye contact because they might notice something. Right. It was a huge regret after, which like, you obviously don't know in the moment, but we asked what her relationship was like with Schwartz. We asked what her relationship was like with Schwartz we asked what her relationship was like with Ariana and we were like why did we not ask her what her relationship was like it never crossed our mind to and I just remember after people being like why didn't you ask that it's like because why we didn't know like how would that even come in our brains to be like what's your friendship like with Sandoval but I'm like sometimes we do ask and I'm like, I just wish one of us just had that instinct

to ask. The show, what was currently happening was so heavily Schwartz. So it was like, it was just a total, in our mind, because it was so like

Schwartz, Schwartz, Schwartz, it would never, never came across. That's why I was so shocked when they asked who's the hotter Tom when she said Sandoval. I was like, what what I remember my friend texting me after that same night watching watch what happens live being like what a strange answer by Raquel and like your face you were like what

yeah everyone was shocked now this is like a selfish question about us but after everything you know came out yeah obviously your brain is focused on something else but were you thinking about just doing our show being like oh my god she just said all of this on that show like that entire day I was just thinking back to every interview we did and how it was so weird from the very first interview she was directing all of her answers to me and I'm like she's over there yeah are you looking at me and i'm like she's over there yeah are you looking at me but i'm like i'm her safe place she's uncomfortable in interviews she doesn't speak the best so i'm her safe place yeah so i thought where where did you guys go post

brass monkey oh my god what yeah that's where this all happened at Brass Monkey? That is hilarious. As people go out and you're at Brass Monkey. That's why I was like, I'm dying to know where this actually all happened. Brass Monkey's like a very young, like, not saying you're not young, but like fake ID, like just got out of college. Yeah, that's a good go-to. I love Brass Monkey.

I love it. I just haven't been in so long, but that's so funny. Yeah. Oh, my Yeah, that's a go-to. I love Brass Monkey. I love it. I just haven't been in so long, but that's so funny. Yeah. Oh my God, that's hilarious. I went back there recently, which you guys will see on a future vlog,

and I was like reenacting. I'm like, okay, this is where it was, the scene of the crime. She walked out here on speakerphone. I went around this corner and oh my gosh.

That is insane. That all went down to me packing. Me packing, yeah, because we usually stay at the gansevoort yeah oh yeah that is right there right yeah so that's just like our go-to spot more recently i've been staying at the royalton park ave shout out to them they have the best rooms that's a nice hotel pool table and i've heard everyone say that those are like actually good

size because new york hotel rooms are small yeah Yeah. Last time I stayed at the Dream, I was like, oh, this is a closet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like most apartments. The Moxie, even smaller. Small. So small. I walked in. I was like, where's the room? I know. It's crazy. There's a bed. There's a bathroom. But I'm like, where's the rest of the room? I know. There's not a lot of wiggle room. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. And then did you guys get on the same flight home? No, thankfully. So the two of us were supposed to go to a Celsius event with Ariana that afternoon when we got back. So I took the first flight back because I wanted to spend some time with Summer. She naps for a couple hours during the day.

I wanted to get home before her nap, put her down, see her after her nap before I went to this event. Raquel wanted to fly home a little later, not get up for a 7 a.m. flight. So thankfully, we were already on separate flights. Because if we were on the same flight, I think I would have just prayed that she missed it. Or I probably would have just taken a coach seat if given someone my first class. Take them I can't. Take the mint. I'm good. You walk up to that desk and you're like, please, any other seat. Yeah.

Just somebody switch with me. I would have given up the mint to not sit next to her. And that's a good seat. You know? First class from LA to New York. It's the best. It is awesome. I gotta say.

We don't get to experience it often, but when we do. Right. I don't pay for that myself. When it's a work trip, I'm like, sign me up. I recently had to fly United because there was no JetBlue. There was no Delta One. And I was like, oh, United. Polaris. Polaris is so nice. Holy shit. The nicest airplane I've ever been on in my life. I was like, I might be switching to United I know I actually said that

to you recently because we always fly Delta and when we I had to fly United by myself and I texted her and was like

this is pretty nice Delta 1 though is up there it is Delta 1 is real nice yeah but oh my gosh

I know I think I in that moment you're just like i'm not texting her to make sure she gets the airport on oh no i mean the fact that i've never heard from her again yeah since since that night on the street like crazy is insane to me but also she only reached out and text ariana because one of our friends was like, you do realize by saying nothing, it's still saying something like three to three days later. So she sent that shitty text. But I'm like, she wouldn't have even sent that if our friend wasn't like, you got to

say something. Yeah, I know. We went back and listened to the episode, too, because it was like you listen to everything she said in such a different light. Yeah, when it was coming. And it was like the thing she was saying about how much she values her friendship

with you and with Ariana and we listened to her say it back and we were just like, what? Yeah, she said, I know who my real friends are.

Katie isn't one of them. Ariana is one of my real friends. And we were like, watching that back. And then we like, we're like, somebody else is going to clip this.

So we should probably clip it ourselves and put it out there. Somebody's going to find this. Yeah, it did. It did. It got shared all over the place. Crazy. Wild.

So I can't get too much into Vanderpump personally, but I just want to know if there was anything that you wanted to see brought up or asked at the reunion that wasn't? I think it covered a lot. I mean, as a viewer, it was a little,

and they've talked about it, I think it was a little frustrating because everyone, I think, was still so angry. Yeah, it was only a couple weeks later. So, like, James and Lala, I felt, were really not dominating, per se, but, like, sometimes I just wanted Andy to really go at Tom and Raquel and, like, drill them.

But it was, like, there was a lot of, we got yelling at them, which I, like I said, granted, I think I would do the exact same thing seems to be the common theme though I mean Jersey the same thing right like I just finally finished it last night so part yeah was them screaming at each other and Andy being like can we do this like old-fashioned thing where I host the show because it just seems like everybody's like trampling over him in every reunion. Yeah. Especially Jersey. Yeah.

He's like, you don't grow. You don't evolve. You are like kindergartners. I was just like, oh my gosh. He's like, keep talking. Go ahead. Keep talking. I'll just sit here. I know.

Was there anything you wanted to share that you weren't able to? I mean, the only thing that was- You having to leave really sucked. Actually, it worked out. i was fine with how it was i loved my trailer diaries honestly it did give you a good solo moment too like everyone was like living for the white claw in the trailer and your reactions and you were like yeah yeah if only it was switched out for a smirnoff i have a Smirnoff event this week. So by the time this episode comes out, my post will already be up. But I kind of did the same thing with the Smirnoff instead. Photoshop it. You could put any can in your hand. I was

like, I didn't know Smirnoff had these seltzers in March. I just found this out around Cinco de Mayo. And I was like, oh, oh shit these are good yeah but for me the most frustrating thing was that was pretty much all that was covered you know I got married yes I know again but things that happened in the season were just brushed over it was just a blip Brock didn't get to be out on stage so that it was like I didn't even yeah it was true but I mean it is better when there are less people yeah when there are too many people it's frustrating everyone's talking over everyone but that was the only thing but it's like also i feel like the viewers didn't care about anything

else everything else got totally dominated and like charlie wasn't on there and she was on the past one right yeah because she was primary then she was a friend and then it was just yeah but I think at this point everyone was just like we all know what we're here yeah no totally so where would you ideally like to see next season go I I have no idea like I for the drama wise you want to see the fallout of everything like you want to see everybody having to interact with each other but on a human level it's like i don't want ariana near any of these people like i don't want her to have to be anywhere near tom sandvall like i really don't but it's like how do you keep making the show if there's not like at least some crossover i think it could work if they film them separately

like obviously they're not going to hang out or be in the same room but like follow the thing our show is about a group of friends exactly exactly yeah so i saw because that's been that's been what i have not loved about where summer house is gone just in the bravo world like summer house has become so clear that these groups of people do not get along and they're separate groups of friends. And it's just frustrating watching because all they do is fight with each other. Right. So it's like that's not that's not a great show, in my opinion.

So I just I don't want that to happen where it's like, OK, here's the events that you guys are all at. Here are the events that they go to and like edit it all together. Yeah, it would be interesting. I saw that Lala was stopped by paparazzi and they asked her, like, would you film with Raquel? And she said, you know, she wouldn't be friends with her, but like she'd be like, how are you doing? Like, where do you stand on that? Lala and I were just talking about this this weekend in Palm Springs. We're like, look, if we got to have conversations with people, we got to have conversations. You

got to give the people what they want. They want to see these conversations. So they're going to happen respectfully with giving Ariana a heads up or whatever. But yeah. And I know I'm sure obviously there's more behind the scenes stuff, but from our vantage point, like Raquel to everybody else is still just MIA. Like, so it's like, was she just gonna come back and be on the show? I feel like just sail into the sunset, you know? Just let this go. But then again, clearly she has the kind of I want that spotlight vibe

that I could totally see her coming back. Yeah, I honestly have no idea. I can truly say I have zero clue what's going to happen next season. Wow. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see. As viewers, do you think that not just the cast, but the entire Bravoverse fan base, do you think people went too hard on Tom and Raquel or not hard enough? I don't think they didn't go hard enough. I think they went very hard. I said this on our show and it's hard to articulate in the right way because obviously they did something so fucking awful, like one of the worst things you could do. Right. But and this does not excuse it.

I hope everyone gets what I'm about to say. This happens in other people's lives that are not on reality TV. Right. And they hear it from the people in their lives and the people in their lives, bitch them out, curse them out, you know, write them off and they have to deal with it. Friendships, friendships, and they lose relationships in their real life. They don't deal with the internet. When the internet comes into play, people can be absurd. Like, you know, death threats, all of that, which I do not stand by.

I think that is like crossing a line. Yes, they did something so awful and people want to like rally around Ariana and support her, which I think is great. And you can tell people they're wrong. I just think that people cross the line when they get to like a very scary place just think that people cross the line when they get to like a very scary place. And that's how the Internet can be. I don't know if you agree

with that. Yeah, I feel like it's just like there's a line and like totally did something awful and there's repercussions and they know they're on reality TV as well. And they signed up for and they did all that. I don't agree with like the we're going to find you and like no. And honestly, the majority of us have gotten similar messages like that and you know what it's like and it's just like people they just go too far yeah and you can tell somebody they did something wrong but like when people take it too it's scary yeah yeah but obviously they did something awful so that's the thing reality tv i know it's like you did this and now you're paying for it what what did you think did you think people were gonna embrace y'all as a couple and just be like

fuck ariana you know yeah tom and raquel team them like yeah what did you think was gonna happen i know and sometimes it for me it's still just like so sick because i just think sandoval just continue to live his life like it wasn't yeah in my mind, it's like, hey man, take a break. Maybe like stop doing shows. You're just like, you're still, I still, seeing,

doing shows like that, it was so like, still trying to capitalize on this moment. Right. And that I felt was like so incredibly selfish to like be doing shows

and changing the lyrics and including Raquel. It's like, okay, you know, everyone's watching you. You want people filming you. You want people posting this. You want people still talking about you. And that's just like, that's just sick in the head. It really is sick in the head. I saw the worst video of him the other day that I showed Fran of him performing Hey Ya by

Outkast. And he's like, I am your neighbor. And I'm like I'm like what is this like who does he think he is and like girls in the audience I am your neighbor yeah I was like oh man but and then girls in the audience screaming like yes I'm like who are these girls like right screaming for him like I just think you know when you do something that awful you know I guess eventually you have to continue living your life and like deal with what you did but not in that way like there is and I think Schwartz was saying it too where he was like there's just no remorse being shown by this guy like at all like Raquel who knows where she is Like, I feel like eventually it hit her. I'm not really sure. But Sandoval just seems like it hasn't hit him.

I think it hits him privately. I don't think he's been willing to show that yet and also maybe feels like he doesn't not deserve to. But it's like, you know, you did a fucked up thing, so you don't get to be sad. I feel like he has those moments definitely privately that we will maybe see next season i don't know but from the outside he just puts on this show yeah and it looks so unremorseful and narcissistic it looks bizarre it does it really does i gotta ask about the tattoos i know it's a common subject. I mean, you got yours too. We're all matching.

We all have matching tattoos. We all have lightning bolts on our, on our left outside wrist. How crazy is that? That is weird. We just need to embrace it ourselves. Okay.

It's our thing. It's not their thing. I know. They want it to be us. Yeah. I know. We've been talking, we've been talking about it

at our, at our shows and, you know, our, we use the lightning bolt in so many things, so many Chicks in the Office things. And we were on stage. We were like, we got to make the lightning bolt Chicks again. Like, we're taking it back away from Sandoval.

Friday energy. This has nothing to do with Sandoval. I know. I've had this for so many years. And I'm a Chargers fan and the logo is a lightning bolt. It's okay.

We can take it back. Okay. We can't let them have this power over us. We're taking it back. I know. Exactly.

That and Coors Light. Yeah. Right. We love Coors Light too. I know. We love Coors Light. So we just have to

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Okay, so enough of Scandival. Let's talk Jersey because you both without hesitation said Melissa over Teresa. And I feel like most other people I've spoken to have been Teresa over Melissa. I know Teresa more personally, but then I follow Melissa. I watch her on the show. I've met her several times. We follow each other. Yeah.

And so I'm like watching this. I want to hear your opinion. We're opposite too with that because Melissa has been on our show multiple times and Joe Gorga has been on our show multiple times and joe gorga has been on our show multiple times and we've never spoken to theresa so we like that's like flipped so i think obviously that always comes into play right but for me personally i think i'm a little bit more gung-ho team melissa than than you are a little more in the camp of like i think they're both nuts yeah like i think they both have done things wrong to each other in some capacity you know because i think we could tell the reunion when they're both yelling at each other and nobody

can shut up that like they're i think they've all got secrets yeah i don't trust i think the reason i fall more towards melissa is because i really don't trust Louis. Yeah, that's where I fall into. You know, it's for me, it's like it felt like things were getting back to normal for them when Teresa was not with this guy. And as like a family, it felt like maybe things were kind of getting a little bit better. And then the original dating stages, they were all getting along. And then as soon as they started to like mix and businesses get involved and they just cross that line everything goes to shit and it's exactly what

happened and i just i louis he just gives me the heebie-jeebies he really does like i don't i just i i don't trust him with theresa i think theresa is very loving and very giving of herself and i think she opens herself up to being taken advantage of sometimes i feel like i have that in common with her but i feel like louis for brock no don't say that brock is so much better brock seems a lot better than Louis, Sheena. You gotta give your man some credit. I want him to be her Prince Charming. I know, but you don't see Brock

looking at your other cast members being like, you'll regret that. Brock isn't investigating your cast members. I just mean her happily ever after. I want this guy to be her guy. I think she wants that to be her happily ever after. I just am not sure it is. And now, I'm like you in the sense where I'm rooting wants that to be her happily ever after. I just am not sure it is. And now I'm like you in the sense where I like I'm rooting for that.

Right. Like if somebody is happy in their relationship, I'm rooting for them. And if she really is happy in a relationship, then I'm rooting for them as a person from what I've seen from him. I don't love the whole private investigator thing that he did hire the private investigator, but then didn't hire the private investigator. investigator thing that he did hire the private investigator but then didn't hire the private investigator and then people online were talking about how he like very strategically didn't use the word hired because it's like Bo Dietl is apparently a friend so like maybe Bo Dietl was just doing a favor for a friend without actually hiring him interesting and so it's like it's just but I think they both have their secrets.

Would you agree with that? Like, I think. Yeah, I think everyone has something they try to keep private from a reality show for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Rox just was all of season nine. So that's it. We're good now. Yeah, exactly. Got it over with already. And I just think like Melissa has, already. And I just think like Melissa has I think she tried so hard at the beginning to really get along with Teresa and now

she's kind of flipped the other way and I think that does turn off a lot of people from Melissa. They're like, ooh, Melissa's finally showing her true colors like this is who she really is. But I just think she got beat down a little bit and it's been so long. I will agree with the fact that I think

when people say like Melissa's storyline has only been to fight with Teresa, I'm like, that's kind of true. Like, I feel like we haven't seen something else from them. It's always just like, this is the person Teresa fights with. Yeah.

I mean, it's like they are a family on the same show. So, of course, they're going to be the majority part of each other's storylines and then you have a little business venture here and there. But I feel like that is especially Jersey, the heart of the show, where it is very family-oriented. I think that's why Bravo brought them on in the first place. Like, that was the whole reason why

and they're still fighting about it. Like, they're still fighting about why they got on the show. So it's just more frustrating from the standpoint of like, we gotta let stuff go. We can't, every reunion, we can't keep fighting about why Melissa came onto the show. But I feel like-

It's been so many years. Yeah, but the story about how she got on the show by going behind Teresa's back is now resurfacing in the past like six months. So what do you think about that? I still fall in the same camp of you gotta let it go. Like it's been so many seasons

since then. You can be mad and I'm sure she was mad when that happened. But the biggest thing, especially with family, is if you don't learn how to move on from things, you're stuck and you're only hurting yourself. Yeah.

So it's like, just just move on. Which I think they both have a problem with, though. Yeah. Like, I think they both don't want to move on from things. You know what I mean? Yeah. If one of them could just be like, yeah, you know what? Agree to disagree.

We'll just move on. It would be fixed. But neither of them want to move on. Yeah. I don't know what Melissa Agree to disagree. We'll just move on. It would be fixed, but neither of them want to move on. Yeah. I don't know what Melissa's sign is, but I know Teresa and I are both Taurus, which is stubborn. Yeah.

So where do we go? But that's another one. Exactly. That's another one. That's another one that's like, how are they going to keep doing this if, you know, we don't really know anything concrete

about the cast for next season, but it's like if they bring back all the same people, boy, did Teresa really hold firm that she never wanted to see them ever again? Yeah. So what do they do? It's the same kind of thing. Do they just split up and nobody ever sees each other? Right. I don't know. It's like a stay tuned moment. I know it really is and I see what happens truly on all of these shows it feels like there's been just a split well yeah

literally at the end of the reunion it was like well I feel like we've gotten nothing resolved exactly see you next season I know

whenever we can figure that shit out and everybody and it feels like all the other husbands really hate Louis and all these there's just bad vibes

with Louis so it's like they start filming again is anybody gonna want to be around him really hate Louie and all these, there's just bad vibes with Louie. So it's like, they start filming again. Nope. Is anybody going to be, want to be around him or is he going to be kind of like

running shit behind the scenes? The price is right. They'll do it. No, every, I mean, if you're ass back on,

they're all going to do it. It's just like, what's really going to be all the conversations? What are they really going to talk about? Although I did,

did see that hopefully they're taking a few months. Yeah, I think they're going to have a little break. What are they really going to talk about? Although I did see that hopefully they're taking a few months. Yeah, I think they're going to have a little break. Because they normally always film in the summer. Yeah.

They always normally film in the summer. I think they're pushing it off until like later this year. They're like, we got to figure out Vanderpump Rules first. Yeah, probably.

Honestly. Seriously, though. It's like they're looking at all their shows like, we have way too many broken groups happening. Got to tackle one at a time wow i know i but it's really it's been one of the better times to ever be a bravo literally i have to say the bravo fans are by far the best fans i think of like any network i I mean, just being at BravoCon, you don't have fans like

that about MTV or any other network. It's like the Bravo Leopardies, the Bravo First, the Bravo fans are just incredible and so invested. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I feel fortunate enough that I've been watching for so long. Yeah. Like the people that are like, oh, my God, I've never watched Vanderpump Rules. I'm starting from season one. I'm like, I know. Oh, we've been watching for so long. The people that are like, oh my god, I've never watched Vanderpump Rules. I'm starring from season one. I'm like, haha. Oh, we've been around. You know what I mean? I'm almost like, don't even watch now because you weren't on it from the beginning when we were

talking about how good it was. Sorry, I took the biggest scandal in reality TV history for you to jump on board. I love that they've been playing reruns on cable because I've been catching just like randomly when I put on the TV and nobody watches cable anymore, but I do. And I just catch like the old episodes and I'm like, man, this show has always been so

good. Yeah. By the way, the unscripted or not done like the uncensored versions on Peacock. So much better. So good. That was genius. I hope they continue to do that. Like what a great way for us to really feel the passion. So good. That was genius. I hope they continue to do that. What a great way for

us to really feel the passion. I know. Just not having to have any bleep. I love a nice F word. Yeah. And a C word. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, good. Okay. Enough Bravo. Let's move to Hulu. I have not been able to start Kardashians yet because I've just been still catching up on Bravo. I haven't even finished Summer House yet. I'm so behind because this my own show is just kind of consumed my time. Yeah. Understandable. You are on a reality television show. Yeah. So, I mean, I do enjoy watching other reality shows just to see, you know, production value and all of that. So I can't wait to start the new season of Kardashians. But I don't know if you guys saw my story. I was at the Blink show the other night when she held up the sign. I'm literally vlogging

because whenever it's in between songs, I know that's a good time to vlog because you can leave that in for YouTube and it's not the music, so I'm just filming I'm like oh my god oh my god she's holding up a sign it says she's pregnant wow so cool I'm so happy for them yeah I mean I thought it was funny that people thought that she was announcing it to Travis I'm like there's no way you obviously you don't tell the world and your significant other at the same time because it's not right. Like, you have to wait

a certain amount of time. She's also pregnant. She's very pregnant. Visibly pregnant. You look together and you're married. I think you know. You got it.

But it was a throwback. They can't keep their hands off each other. Right. Yeah. Which was so cute. The music video. Right.

And I think when people finally put two and two together, they were like, oh, that's such a good idea. Yeah. She did that. And obviously, they were filming for their show.

Yeah. At the same time. So do you think that he knew how she was going to do it? Like, could that have been a genuine surprise of that? Yes. I think. I think that like showing up, showing up at the show and doing that, I think could be a very genuine surprise. But not the actual pregnancy news.

Yeah. No. Because even his ex said she knew for like a few weeks. but not the actual pregnancy news. Yeah, no. But like having that moment. His ex said she knew for like a few weeks. So of course he knew. I love how she was like, it wasn't a surprise. They both knew like,

yeah, no shit. Like she thought she was like breaking news. Right. They both knew. Yeah, I think they both knew. Yeah. She's always talking to the media about them. I'm like, yeah, that's a little good.

I know. So were they filming at the show? Okay, I couldn't tell from where I was. The GA pit, there were hundreds, thousands of people. Oh, I saw Simon Huck's story. He was there and he posted a picture and the camera crew was like behind them. So it was like, okay, they're definitely,

this is all definitely for the show as well. As for this new season of Kardashians, not fantastic. I mean, I don't enjoy watching Kendall and Kylie, like learning how to drive stick. Like I couldn't care less about that. We were just having this conversation too. It's Kim and Khloe don't care about that. Give so much of themselves

to the show and share so much and then everybody else really picks and chooses what they share. And when half an episode is dedicated to like

Kourtney's new business venture and Kylie and Kendall just doing some cute activity together. It's a little boring. Right. Especially when we see everything that happens with them already

through the news all the time. And then you see them talking about it. And then I think it's funny. And I love Kim Kardashian, but she was saying like, I just don't, something about like not wanting to be on and like on all the time

or I forget the exact conversation. And I'm like, the camera's on her right now like this feels so bizarre you know what i mean like i don't know i obviously we're all still gonna watch the kardashians for sure i'm gonna watch it until it ends exactly they go through yeah dry spells where it's like i don't care about kendall and kylie doing this activity yeah not at all even the night of their premiere everyone was watching vanderpump rules so it's like are they pissed that no one's talking about their premiere you know like i said how much can kim and chloe do they've shared so much yeah and especially when kendall and kylie have gotten older now when we see their relationship drama

and everything happened and like Devin Booker and Bad Bunny and is she with Travis Scott? Is she not with Travis Scott? And it's just never discussed. Yeah, and we never see it on the show. It's never hinted at. It's never discussed. And of course, you know, whatever.

They get paid the big bucks to just like do fun activities with their sisters. Give us a night out, you know? Give us one night out. I love when they all went out in Palm Springs. They went to this bar that I actually go to and saw a drag show. And it's like, that's fun.

They're doing something normal that we go to. Just give us one night out. Right, not Kendall teaching Kylie how to drive stick in a parking garage. Nobody cares. Kylie doesn't want to drive stick, okay? Yeah. Does anyone really? I mean, unless you're like racing cars doesn't want to drive stick. Okay. Yeah. Does anyone really?

I mean, unless you're like racing cars. Kendall wants to. Who wants to drive stick, especially in LA. Yeah. I know. Probably Kendall Jenner. Right. Yeah.

So she could say that she drives stick. Cool girl, Kendall. Right. But like. Cool. No way Kylie Jenner wants to drive stick. No. So I know just based on some things that I saw on last week's episode, there was like

the whole Dolce and Gabbana debacle so for those who are not aware Courtney was basically upset that Kim is doing a collection with Dolce and Gabbana by putting together like her favorite looks from the 90s and 2000s archives and Courtney just had her wedding what like four months prior yeah so and that was all styled out of Dolce & Gabbana looks. So do you think it was inconsiderate of Kim and Chris to pursue this deal or is Kourtney overreacting? Like, was Dolce & Gabbana

Kourtney's thing and there's other brands Kim could have worked with? I don't know. It's felt like maybe there had just been some building issues. Like, sometimes the smallest thing

can just put you over the edge, right? And so I feel like Kim and Kourtney maybe had some tension and this is just what pushed it over the edge. And they always have had a little bit of tension. And Kourtney did say that during one of the earlier episodes of this season. She was like, Kim and I have, you know,

always been kind of competitive and with each other. And she was like, Kim, more than me still, maybe. So I think they have that tension sometimes. And this was just something that pushed Courtney over the edge. Because from my perspective, I like don't really see how it's that big of a deal. Because I felt like, you know, months had passed. If this collection came out two weeks after Kourtney's wedding, absolutely, that's, you know, that's cutting it too close. But months had gone by, the wedding was over,

the hype from the wedding was over. If Dolce & Gabbana want to, like, they're so close with the family, if they want to work with Kim, you're going to tell Kim she can't do it? Right. Yeah, I agree with that. I think, you know if if it was during the wedding that's all totally different yeah and it's like Courtney's dress like no yeah but you can't say no to a brand because your sister worked with them I feel like that's kind of unfair and Kim is a businesswoman I mean she takes opportunities that she can and she will and i think we've seen from courtney she doesn't look at life that way she doesn't look

at it the way kim does yeah and so i think that's where the separation is but i i thought it was fine yeah you know i thought that it was a little overreaction by courtney but i think like you said yeah looking for maybe a build-up and then you find that one thing that you can like really hammer home it's a million of other other things built up i think courtney was already kind of frustrated looking for maybe a build-up and then you find that one thing that you can like really hammer home. It's a million of other things built up over time. I think Kourtney was already kind of frustrated with Kim at her wedding. She kind of alluded to like Kim

just making the wedding about her. And so I think this was just like the tip of the iceberg. It was like, you're really, you're poking me, you're poking me, you're poking me and now you're doing this and now I'm actually really upset. Yeah. Yeah. So.

Well, boring stick driving or not. I can't wait to catch up with the Kardashians. Watch the new season. And Scott's back, which is great. Always great. Good addition. Thank God. Always the best.

I'm so excited for that. I missed him being a part of the mix. You need to sit back, relax, and watch something that's not Bravo. Yeah, I know. I'm like, all right, I'm caught up on Jersey. I still, I do have to finish Summer House summer house like these are my friends i just yes i couldn't do all three shows at the same time it was strange it's a lot out of it we're tired and honestly it's kind of nice to sometimes like putting on the kardashians is a nice way to be

like mindless reality tv i'm enjoying it i'm watching it. I'm watching it, but I'm not like so heavily invested because all these other shows pulled us in. We were so invested. And I also think because Bravo feels a lot more real,

like you, for some reason, you feel like closer to them. Or when you watch The Kardashians, you're like, this is a whole other world. It's not relatable anymore.

We are not relating to this at all. Just, you know, it's nice. We love to see it. Yeah, exactly. Definitely. So, you know, it's nice. We love to see it. Yeah, exactly.

Definitely. So I know what you guys like to wrap up some of your episodes with trivia games. We do. So I thought we could wrap up our shenanigans

with a little trivia game. Fun. Okay. All right. But before we do this, is there a dying question you have for me that I may or may not be able to answer?

Since we're not, unfortunately, doing a swap. I know. All my questions have to do with what happens next. Yeah. I agree. Honestly, the answer is I don't know. It's just like, I just want to know where she is. Honestly, same.

Is she getting out soon? Yeah. I mean, it's no secret. I just want to know where she is. I honestly, same. Is she getting out soon? I mean, it's no secret. We're going to start filming soon. I'm not going to say how soon, but. Yeah. I know. Where is she? I know.

And you haven't spoken to Sandoval at all. I saw you reached out to him and he didn't answer. He blocked me. Yeah, okay. So, no, we have not spoken. My question would be, where does everyone stand with Schwartz now? I think a lot of people are confused with him right now, but now he's saying he's taking a step away from Sandoval. So that could change things. Did he say he's taking a step back from

Sandoval or a step back from talking about Sandoval? No, I listened to Jackson Brittany's podcast. That was completely cleared up. He says, I'm taking a break from Tom. Okay. It wasn't. And then you see Sandoval being like, no, he said he's taking a break from Sandoval, not Sandoval. I was like, no, he actually said Tom. Yeah. He's taking a break from Tom. Get it through your head. It's about you. He's taking a break from you. Yeah. So that was cleared up. I haven't listened to the full jackson britney episode but i saw clips okay jackson britney obviously i mean here's the thing if he knows what's good for him he will try to also a good way to put it better if you know what's good also like better himself in some ways you know what i mean i think also reflect on

like you know how much this guy has affected his life and also when you look back at these episodes like Schwartz everything with Katie the way he treated Katie and the things he said to Katie were so awful at times so bad and it's like maybe

it's a time to reflect for him yeah to look back and go oh my gosh yeah you know blind loyalty

never pays off sometimes stay tuned yeah yeah all right ready I'm gonna go question for question so i'll start with ria i'm bad on the spot what is the legal name of the prolific dj taylor swift dated in 2015 we know his dj name calvin harris that's his dj name oh do we know his real name oh my god what's

his real name i only found this out when I was doing. Yeah, it's like very European. I have no idea. Adam Wiles. Oh, I would. Oh, that's not. Maybe I'm thinking of what I said, like David. I'm thinking of Zed.

Zed has a very European name. OK, Fran, what is the MLB team in Andy Cohen's hometown? Cardinals. Yes. Oh, my God. He talked about St. Louis on our podcast forever. I mean, I...

Well, I... Yes. And I saw the memorabilia. All right. Okay. Rhea, what type of sunglasses did Jax Taylor steal in Hawaii?

Oh my God. Oh no. This was so funny though. Yeah. Is it like a brand or the... it is i know if you like google it it might say one thing but i know specifically what brand it was because ironically a few months prior he bought me the exact same glasses for my birthday yeah so i don't know if he just felt bad that he bought me these glasses that he's like well now i gotta get the same ones for britney i'm just gonna say ray-ban but probably not were they were they they weren't gucci were they no you know what's stuck in my head the sand of sand

of all buying the vintage versace oh that was another question yep yep that was literally my so you got vintage versace vintage versace that's what i remember that was literally my next one so you got vintage versace vintage versace that's what i remember i think it says like polaris shades somewhere but they were actually these tiffany's glasses oh yes i didn't get tiffany hats on glasses yeah i do remember thinking that episode was so funny at the time oh my god okay we already talked about it i got versace right yes you did so're going to skip that one. Where is the Real Housewives Ultimate Girl Strip Season 5 taking place? St. Bart's.

Yes. What was the name of Lisa Vanderpump's first restaurant in LA? Oh, oh, oh. It's where I worked. It's where this all started. Yeah, I know, I know. And then it closed. It did close close do you remember

I think like might have to pass White House yeah I know it Villa Blanca yes yes

who made Sophia Richie's wedding dress it's Chanel mm-hmm