Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Conspiring B*tches with Kat Dunn

Episode Date: February 18, 2020

Scheananigans is shaking it up and bringing you something new! Catch up with what’s happening in Scheana’s life from the VPR Aftershow to her new upcoming YouTube channel. Then she chats with Big Brother’s Kat Dunn about where she’s at now, what it’s like to adjust to the real world after the house, and her love of conspiracy theories. Plus, we’re taking fan questions every week!  Shout out to this episode's sponsors! Hulu - Start your free trial today at Hulu.com !See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Thank you for listening to this Podcast One production, now available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, PodcastOne.com, and anywhere else you get your podcasts. From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. And we are back in studio with my mama co-hosting today.

How are you? I'm good. Good. Want to put the mic a little closer to you? Thank you. Boom. Boom. So we're trying out a new format where the first bit is just going to be kind of like

a catch up with me and what's been going on because I'm going to try and talk about myself less while interviewing the guest. So figure if we get me out of the way in the beginning, then we can ask some questions, and then we're going to take fan questions at the end, a little Q&A. Right. I like that. Yeah. But it is your podcast, so it's okay to talk about you. I know. I know.

But we're just going to try a new format out and see how it works. All righty. So today we are going to have Kat Dunn in the studio from Big Brother, which I know you are a fan of. Big fan. But before we get into that, a little catch up. So, I mean, I guess it's only been a week since I podcasted with Brock and Brett, so pretty much up to date with you guys on everything.

But I do have a few new things that are exciting that I'm working on. I just shot one of my first YouTube vlogs last night. Yeah, and I've been doing just like a bunch of behind the scenes stuff. Like yesterday we filmed our Vanderpump Rules after show. So I was walking around with my camera. I didn't know you did that there. Oh, yeah. I asked.

I was like, is it okay if I film? And they were like, yeah, why couldn't you? I was like, I don't know. Okay. If you say so. So they had a taco bar, which I was very happy about. What? Yeah.

But I just kind of walked around with my camera. I did a little like in the getting ready room with Charlie and Raquel. You guys looked pretty. I saw some snaps. Everyone was like, wow, queens of primary colors. I was going to say that. Did you guys plan that? No, not at all.

And then Charlie, she's so adorable. Bless her heart. She's like, aren't all colors primary colors? Like all the colors of the rainbow are like the main colors. I'm like, well, no, you know how like red and yellow makes orange and red and blue makes purple and i was explaining blue and yellow make green she didn't get that so i was like no we're all in like primary colors mine was like a sky blue but um no but it looked good all together thanks she was bright yellow yeah yeah yeah it looked good and we did not plan that but but Raquel had sent in our group chat

the blue dress I was wearing and the burnt orange one that she wore, and she's like, which one do you girls like more? And I was thinking, I'm like, I mean, for you, the orange, for me, the blue, and Charlie responded first, and she's like, oh my God, the orange, and Raquel was like, I was thinking the same. I was like, I mean, I'll take the blue then, and she was like, yeah, sure. So that was Raquel's dress? That was Raquel's.

I had never seen it. I wondered if it was. I know. When she sent it, I was like, that's very me that's very me yeah so yeah you guys looked good thanks um so that was fun I don't know when that will be out but what I love the most about the after show and like watch what happens live in the reunion is it's the time when you can break the fourth wall as we do here on shenanigans but it's interesting because there's like so many things that happen behind the scenes that you don't see on the show so when you watch these after shows

it's cool to be like oh yeah we are watching a television show i've seen quite a few people recently on twitter saying sheena you know i love listening to your podcast because i really get to hear about what happens not always behind the scenes, but all the pieces that are cut and spliced and why all of a sudden you're talking and then within a second you look like you've been crying for five minutes. They don't get to hear a lot of that backstory. And you get to give that hair to them on shenanigans. And I think your listeners are enjoying that. I hope so. And also, I've always wanted to have more of a video visual aspect with my podcast, not just the little videos that we do in studio.

Right. So right now, I know I mentioned it to you a little bit, but Kristen put me in touch with this neon sign company. Yeah. And we're going to turn my extra bedroom into a full office like media room where we can do like photo shoots have like the ring light set up but i'm gonna get like a little corner um like almost like a triangle table that i can have a few seats out in the mic stands like this that it's all happening neon sign in the back yeah so when we do the podcast from home it's like my own cute little studio and then

we can post those on it's just kind of a wasted room there. It really is. And I'm like, Brock and I were talking, and he's like, we should get like an office space to do some shooting. And I go, or we just utilize my extra bedroom that is an absolute waste. It really is. I have, what, one drunken friend every six weeks occasionally pass out there. Occasionally pass out there. So I want I know, too, because like now that Brock is probably going to be playing rugby full time for the next few months. Right.

Looking like more in Austin and New York. What? Yeah. I'm just hearing this now on shenanigans. Yeah. You heard it here first, people. So. So did mom.

Wow. So he'll decide that after this weekend. But it's looking like Austin is the move. You had talked years ago about buying a vacation house in Austin. Yeah, Lake Travis. So I've only been once, but I do remember how much I loved the city. And I was like, not like I want to move to Texas full time. You're not moving to Texas.

Absolutely not. But to go visit Austin a few times and for some games and stuff, I'm like. I've never been. Yeah. And you would like it. It's kind of like a Nashville type of city, which you've never been. I know. But you've seen, I'm sure, like Court and Erica's stories in Nashville.

No, of course. And we recently talked about maybe going there and taking your dad. Yeah. So. So, I mean, maybe we do that in Austin for a rugby game. Maybe so. Yeah. But that'll be decided after this weekend in Vegas.

Okay. And by the time you guys are listening to this, the decision will be made. So you'll find out next week. But yeah, so I'm like, I mean, he's going to be gone a lot more. And when I'm at home, here's my problem. I watch too much television. My DVR is so full right now.

I have like four episodes of mom two episodes of Grey's Anatomy three Law and Order SVUs I've got a couple I don't even know but my DVR is so full and I'm like I spend so much time watching TV and not being productive that I feel like kind of after this round of DVR clears up yeah I'm gonna just spend more time in the extra room gutting it. I have so many things that I want to donate to Covenant House, which we've shot with on the show before. And I just, yeah, I have a lot of extra stuff that I'm not doing anything with. I have the space. Good.

So I feel like, too, if I have an office space, I'm going to get more accomplished and more done than just sitting on my couch, you know, writing my notes and whatnot to actually have like a desk and a room. And I'm really excited about this project. Yeah, I'm excited for you. That's also something that I will be vlogging kind of a before and after and time lapse the during just so you guys can see that whole transformation. And then eventually we'll also do a house tour in Palm Springs. Yeah, you've had the house almost a year now. I know, but I also haven't decorated the front room, really, in almost a year. So I'm going to need your help with that.

I want the artwork and stuff that we have in there. I'm thinking that one beautiful— Oh, you're talking the front bedroom. I was like, what do you mean? Yeah, the front bedroom. It's like. Yeah, I mean, it's got stuff, but it's not what you want. It's not a room that I'm excited to show on a house tour.

Well, I'm going to be there tomorrow, so maybe I'll get some ideas in my head. Okay. And I was thinking the big painting that I got at the street fair when we were there, that beautiful thing that's in my extra room. I think I should maybe put that in the front room of Palm Springs. Okay. And just keep that room more... We need to keep it with that theme of colors then.

Okay, so then I'll work on that. Yeah, so it's just a thought. I don't know, because that's a beautiful piece of artwork, and I don't know if it's going to go with my office theme really. I never thought it should be from Marina Del Rey. Yeah. So we got that. And I also just made another decision last night, which was low-key inspired by Kat,

our guest, who's going to be in here in a minute. I saw when I was looking at her Instagram last night how she has a conspiring bitch merch line, which I'm so excited to talk to her about. That was her line. But I was like, you know what? I'm like, I'm going to do it. I've been talking about doing Boy Crazy merch for a few weeks now. I'm doing it. I already have a model. His name is Max Boyens. Oh, my God.

And how does Brock feel about this? We actually haven't talked about it yet. When I mentioned it a few weeks ago, he's like, that's dumb. You're not going to do that. But I'm like, you're going to tell me that a business venture that's going to make probably more money than my fitness and makeup line combined made by selling you know what $10 beanies like

I think it's funny I think it's funny and I think he would be okay and yeah I mean anything that's a business thing he's not gonna turn down sure and when I was like looking at her she has this adorable photo with the t-shirt that says conspiring bitch and a black beanie and I was like if I put the writing on the beanie and the boy crazy,

I just, it's coming. Inspired. Justice is actually getting some mock-ups made for me today. There's an embroidery place I know by your house, Court said. Remind your listeners who Justice is. Justice is my sister's boyfriend. He is also my videographer and editor for my YouTube channel, which will be launching in about a month.

And now that I've started filming some vlogs and like we're going to do like this whole week, I've just filmed a bunch of random videos. So it's going to kind of be how Erica Costell does like, you know, in Miami and does like a recap. So we're going to have recap videos. We're going to have fitness videos. The one we filmed last night was an assumptions Q&A. It's about 20 minutes long. And it's, I think, just a way for you guys to get to know me a little more on camera,

not on the show and not just here at Shenanigans. And when is that available? My YouTube. We are launching it in March. I don't want to say an exact day because the tentative is mid-March, but I think it will stick. I just know a lot of questions came in and a lot of assumptions. Oh, there were about 400 questions that came in. Yeah, I saw the ones you sent me. So I think I'm going to do one of those videos a month. Okay.

So this first one I just said. You have plenty to work with. You know, I know. I was like, you know, like, subscribe, comment below. I'm like, don't worry about hurting my feelings. I mean, don't be outright just mean. But if you're like, I want to hear more about your relationship with the girls and less about your house in Palm Springs. I just want to know what you guys want to hear more of and see more of on my podcast and on my YouTube channel.

So that'll be launching soon. But that's just a quick little preview and a catch up. And we're going gonna get this gorgeous guest sitting out there on the couch in studio Kat Dunn come on in um but before Kat Dunn gets in I want you guys to hear a little bit about Hulu so okay so James Kennedy told me about this crazy party that Hulu threw in Beverly Hills Kate Chastainain was there, a bunch of the housewives, and even Captain Lee. So I just have one question. Why was I not invited? Now I have to watch the commercials to see what happened like everyone else, like extreme FOMO here. But lucky for you, Hulu has the reality TV you love. So start your free trial today at Hulu.com.

All right. Welcome to Shenanigans. Kat, how are you? Good. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. You look gorge. Thank you. I'm on my way to the airport.

Oh, really? I did an impromptu trip, stopped in LA, and I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to Vegas. Wait, this weekend? What flight are you on? Hulertop. No, literally. That would be so much fun. The one at 445?

Me too. Southwest? No, American. Or maybe it's, I honestly don't even know. That's so funny. I kind of just like book things and then I just organize it as my day goes. I need to. Yeah.

So, yeah. I don't know, but I'll be in Vegas. Well, we both have to get out of here at the same time then because we have a 445. Yeah. So funny. So funny. You'll both get to Vegas before I even make it home on the freeway. Oh my God, right?

Are you going, because I'm going with like a group of influencers are you oh really because maybe we're like with the same group

I'm going with my boyfriend for a little Valentine's Day thing but I do know Robbie yeah I'm going with that group yeah

that would be fun I was just with all of them at the Fantasy Island movie premiere oh my god you guys need to see it yeah have you seen previews

for it I actually okay I'm the worst reality star ever because I don't watch TV. And I don't watch, well, I started watching The Bachelor, so I am a Bachelor. I do want to ask you about that as well. This is my first season ever watching The Bachelor. Are you serious?

Yeah. Well, I mean, I've watched like here and there or whatever, but this year I'm like, oh, I'm dedicated. But I don't watch movies, I don't watch TV. I'm like a Martian. Oh, gotcha. A Martian. Okay. Well, we can talk a little bit of The Bachelor because I literally have the Chase Rice song

in my head right now from the date. Oh, my God. I mean, was that not the best reality shady TV production moment ever? Well, yes, but I also was doing my research and I'm pretty sure, I don't know if this is a hot take, but I'm pretty sure they didn't really

date date. It was just like a random... See, he said that, but I don't believe him. I think he's trying to save face because he was embarrassed

on national television. I don't know because there's no photos of them together. So if they were really in a legit relationship... You can't find photos of me and my boyfriend.

We've been together four and a half months. Oh. Yeah, we haven't posted any photos. Especially, and I will say, six months with John Mayer, not one photo of him and I. When you're dating, I mean, and my boyfriend and I got separate. But like when you're dating a celebrity, like when I was hanging out with John Mayer, we weren't taking photos.

Like we weren't posting things. I mean, it was also pre-Instagram days. I would be like, John, let's take a selfie right now. I'll post it in my story. Tell me my body's a wonderland, please. Okay, so alright. So I don't really have a lot of history dating celebrities, so I guess I don't know. I also don't think the producers would have had that set up had

they just had one casual date. No. But when I was on Big Brother, and we had to do all the paperwork before, they asked if I had dated any celebrities before. That's something that I guess they ask in paperwork. They know. I was thinking,

one time, Tim Tebow liked my photos. I'm going to put him down. I'm just kidding. I'm going to cut that story. No, but like... There's a personal story with Tim. I'm kidding. It'll be off the record. You have nothing to story with tim but yes okay i'm kidding i'm kidding no it'll be off the record you have nothing no i'm no yeah i'm not but no but i

feel like maybe she was like trying to flex and then was like oh yeah like i did a choice rice like aka like we like spent the night together one night and then i don't know no see i really think based on her interviews her the look in her eyes i've watched the scene now like four times i just like keep watching i'm like brock you gotta see the brocks my boyfriend i'm like you gotta see this scene and then i like my sister just i'm like everyone just needs to see this because it's like the shadiest reality tv production but it's so good as a viewer and not being the one personally affected by this for once it's fantastic and it's like the look on her face i mean you hear the little guitar twang she knows that song

he probably used to sing her that song he probably wrote it for her and they're like locking eyes it was so even pete was like oh wow you know like every word to the song and so when i just did ashley eyes podcast recently um her sister said and i've watched it a few times and i haven't caught it yet. I need to maybe watch with subtitles. But there's a part when she says, I know him. And I was like, wait, I didn't catch that. I saw when he was like, oh, you know this song. And she's like, yeah, and she's singing. But also, shout out to the producers for making the best interview cut at it.

Because he's like, I'm crushing it. Best date ever. She's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's my ex-boyfriend. Best date ever. Oh, awesome. And then he's like, it'd be cool if he sung at our wedding.

Right. Hey, man, take my number. it's my ex-boyfriend. Best date ever. I'm awesome. And then he's like, it'd be cool if he sung at our wedding. Right. Hey, man, take my number. Yeah, so her name's Victoria. And he's like, mm-hmm. But props to Chase for not saying anything. Because, I mean, he could have totally blown up her spot. Sure. But he didn't.

He handled it really well. Yeah. But I'm now a fan of Chase Rice. Not just because of that, but I love that song. I had never heard of him until that episode. I was like, is he at Stagecoach this year? Is he? He's not.

No, but Carrie Underwood is. I'm excited. So you're going to Stagecoach. Yes. Same. I love Stagecoach. Yeah, me too. I'm going to a lot of fun.

All right. So I want to talk a little bit about you and the house. So how are you and Nick? Me and Nick are really good. Actually, he's going to be in Vegas this weekend as well. Oh, okay. I haven't seen him in like a month because, of course, like long distance, you know, it's kind of tricky. So wait, where do the two of you each live?

I live in Dallas and he lives in Philly. Okay, he's in Philly. So it's, of course, tricky, especially when he works full time as a therapist. And then I'm very centralized to Dallas and everything, you know, all my work, all my family, everything. So it is kind of hard to make it work. We talk every day. Right now it's been, I think, exactly my work, all my family, everything. So it is kind of hard to make it work. We talk every day. Right now it's been, I think, exactly a month since I've seen him. So we both get messages all the time, and people are like,

are you all still together, are you not? Which I just, like, let the messages kind of go because I'm like, ha-ha, I'm going to let them conspire. Right, totally. Inspiring bitches. But no, so the things are really well. Good. But, yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Wow, and I thought San Diego was long distance. Well, no, that was how Nick felt. I mean, it has, I guess, unfortunately, it has caused a little bit of a rift in what could potentially be our relationship. But before this, his girlfriend lived like an hour away from him, and he was like, I've been in a long-distance relationship before. She lived an hour away.

And I was like, ooh, that's not long distance. before. She lived an hour away. And I was like, that's not long distance. That's traffic in L.A. That's a break. Yeah, exactly. So it is a little bit different. But once you live in the Big Brother house with somebody and you're so, I guess you go through so many emotions with that person. Like I'm so emotionally invested in Nick. And there's things about him that I don't, like we have a level of our, the level of our relationship is so much different than if I would have just met a guy on Bumble or something.

So I don't know. It's kind of hard to explain to people. It's hard to explain to my parents. It's hard to explain to everyone. But yeah, we're really, really close. Oh, good. Now, how close, I know geographically on the map, but how close of a driver flight is Austin to Dallas? Three hours, I think. Three hour drive or flight is Austin to Dallas?

Three hours, I think. Three hour drive? Okay. That's not too bad. I was just telling my mom my boyfriend might be playing rugby out in Austin. I love Austin. And I do too. I'm not going to move there, but I will go visit. It's a little road trip, but it's fun. I have a lot of friends in Dallas too, so I'd probably

go to Dallas for a couple days, go to Austin for a couple days. You can stay with me. Ooh, thanks. You can stay on my couch. Then we can go to one of his rugby games, too, so I'd probably go to Dallas for a couple days, go to Austin for a couple days. You can stay with me. Ooh, thanks. You can stay on my couch. Then we can go to one of his rugby games. Yeah, that'd be so much fun. It's closer than Vegas. It is.

Yeah. Definitely. All right. So I want to talk about your merch because, like I was saying earlier, it has inspired me to just make the full jump because I've been talking about it. So I don't know if you watch Vanderpump Rules or not, but one of the guys who's new on the show who I dated called me boy crazy in the first episode. And that's something that now is just like has stuck.

You need merch. And I was like, you know what? When I was looking at your photos and you have the black tee with a conspiring bitch and a black beanie on in your picture, I was like, what if I put the writing on the beanie? conspiring bitch and a black beanie on in your picture i was like what if i put the writing on the beanie and especially like in the lgbtq community i so many boys are gonna buy boy crazy be sure like your audience with that is so broad because there's of course the lgbtq community but there's also girls are boy crazy but then there's also people that don't even you know they might not watch the show but they're boy crazy. Exactly.

Because the conspiring bitch stuff, it is very central to Big Brother. Because you can't only wear, like, a conspiring bitch shirt. I guess you could. But it's a little bit more like an inside joke, I guess. But boy crazy, I mean, everyone's boy crazy. I mean, I remember the first time you said that on the show. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I'm a mess.

No, it was funny. But you need to get those out like ASAP because you could totally you could have capitalized on Valentine's Day I know Christmas holidays are huge like that's why

with the conspiring bitch stuff we've done conspiring witch conspiring wrench oh I love that and then we have a Valentine's Day conspiring bitch with like a heart

but yeah it's really fun and also it's really cool I compare it to like if you're like a if you're like a singer and you like go to your to your concert and everyone's singing your lyrics back to you. Right.

What a cool feeling. I don't know how that feels, but it is really cool to see people out. I've gone to meeting grates where people are wearing my merch and, of course, posting pictures on Instagram. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm famous. Yeah. I really did something. But no, it's a lot of fun. You'll get a lot of really good response yeah i just had um a fitness line but i think it was a little too

high priced for my market and my audience so um but just seeing all the people that posted my it's all happening hoodies i love that so cool yeah so boy crazy merch i want one soon you heard it first i love that yeah Yeah. Okay. So we've got, tell everyone where they can find your merch. Oh, so just honestly, just go to my Instagram. I post my merch all the time, so you can't miss it. But it's a collaboration that I did with my best friend, Sydney. She owns a company called Live Love Game Day.

And honestly, it was like the easiest transition. I remember getting off the show and I realized that people were actually making merch. They were making merch with my sayings on it. So I was like, first of all, they're capitalizing off my likeness, which, okay, like I respect the hustle, but like, come on. So I was like, I need to make merch, but I don't really know where to start. So Sydney was so helpful. She was like, well, I'll design it. You can even put it on my website.

And she does all the shipping, everything. Amazing. I know. I know. She's such a good friend. I'm not even worthy. But yes, it was a really easy transition. So all the merch is on LiveLoveGameDay.com. Okay. But I'm going to shamelessly plug myself and say, follow me on Instagram. Yes, follow. And then you'll go to my link in bio and you'll find my merch. And then give them your Instagram handle. Oh, and then I was like, they know who I am. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. My Instagram is katdun, K-A-T-D-U-N-N. Perfect. Boom.

Now I also saw that you have a YouTube. Yes. Oh, my YouTube is struggling right now though. I haven't posted a video since last year. I need consistency. Yeah. I'll make a video in Vegas. Yeah, I'm going to do that too. I'm doing a Vegas vlog. And also, people love the videos of me and Nick together.

Yep. So every time I see him, we always try to make a video. You know, I've got to get the people that I want. So we'll make one in Vegas. Maybe we'll get married and YouTube it. Do a little drive-thru wedding. Yeah, right? Perfect.

Wow, Nick is going to listen to this and be like, what? I'm not going to Vegas anymore. GoPro's in the car. Yeah. Man, what? I'm not going to Vegas anymore. GoPro's in the car. Yeah. Man, I think I'm really on to something. But also, I don't know if you're on the TikTok train yet. Not yet, but I'm. TikTok is so much fun.

I'm almost there. I'm like, let me get a couple of vlogs down first. Let me focus on one thing at a time. That's my problem. But. I'm distracted. I'm ADD, so. Yeah, see, and I tend to like want to do a lot of things at once,

and I need to just focus on one. Like we were like... Wise words from your mom. Yeah. Okay. We were talking about doing a live show, like tour type of thing. It's all happening tour,

and I still want to do that, but I'm like, that's something that's going to take a lot more work, and I want more buildup and hype around, so I'm like, I'm not going to try and jump into that right now. And you need to have your merch ready by then. So then you can sell it and people can wear your merch to the shows.

Yeah. So it's all going to be happening eventually. But starting with YouTube for now, I'm really excited to launch that next month. And yeah. Okay. So we were just saying, Stagecoach, you're going to be there. I am. Who are you most excited to see?

Honestly. Are you big on country or are you just like festivals? Well, okay. So I love country music, but I'm from Texas, so I love Texas country. Okay. It's so much different than anything you see at Stagecoach because it's way more rugged. It's raw. Honestly, I feel like what a lot of the country artists start out as, and then they realize that I have a ton of fans in Texas but like I want to be I want to make it big so then they have to go to Nashville and whatever

yeah but um they kind of sell out a little bit I guess but I get it because you know that's what makes them the money um but you don't hear Texas country at stagecoach but what I love the reason I love going to stagecoach is because I love seeing the influencers and I love seeing the fashion right I'm like that person I love people. And last year was our first time to go. And I was like a mini-influencer. I was like a Dallas influencer, I guess. So I did have a collaboration with them. But I remember seeing some of the Bachelor girls and Big Brother people.

Wait, Bachelor people were at Stagecoach? Yes. Oh, no. Okay, this is honestly, reality TV was the best PR for stagecoach this year. I mean, they were doing commercials during The Bachelor this season. I was like... I mean, I don't watch Bachelor in Paradise,

but I guess it like blew up on Bachelor. What? I know, I'm a Martian. I'm a Martian. It's better than The Bachelor in Bachelor. I'm going to watch it this year, because especially now that I'm like a self-proclaimed Bachelor expert.

No, but so they had all the people talking about stagecoach on Bachelor in Paradise, and then I don't know if y'all... I don't know if you watch Big Brother, but, like, so they had all the people talking about Stagecoach on Bachelor in Paradise. And then, I don't know if y'all, I don't know if you watch Big Brother, but me and Holly, there was a rumor that we had gone to Stagecoach together. Right, I remember. I do remember that. And we actually didn't. But it was just, that was, like, a big fight that erupted.

So I don't know why, I don't know the hold that Stagecoach has on reality TV, but it was, like, I bet this year it's going to be huge. Oh, it's going to be huge. I know. I'm excited to see everyone. It sure gets bigger. Yeah. I need to go ahead and plan my outfits.

Yes. Do you do Coachella as well? I haven't been to Coachella yet, but I'm hoping that I'll have a brand deal go through that I can go this year. Yeah. I did. This is not going to make me sound very good, but if people follow me on Instagram, they'll understand.

I did drunkenly buy Coachella tickets when I was in Mexico last month. Smart. Yeah, I know, right, because I guess it kind of lessens the blow of the – because they're expensive. I bought two VIP tickets. I know. They're like, what, $900-something each? I don't even know.

That's ridiculous. I felt like I was Beyonce. I think it ended up – it went in charge of like $4,000. I was also in Mexico. Did you buy artist passes or VIP? I don't know what I bought. I don't know what I bought. But luckily, because my phone was in Mexico, my credit card company was like hold up this is like this

is shady and it really was me but luckily it declined so then when I like kind of sobered up I was like okay maybe I should think about this maybe so I haven't bought them yet but I'm I'm manifesting that I'll be at Coachella yes well I Well, I'll see you there. And if not, I'll see you at Stagecoach. So what would you say coming out of the Big Brother house? What is one of the hardest things with adjusting to the real world again? I don't even know where to start. It was really, it was such a trip. I mean, you're cut off from civilization for months. I couldn't do it. And I was actually talking about this with my friend that I'm staying with while I'm in LA. Because I hadn't seen him since I went on the show.

And he was kind of asking me about my transition back. And I noticed that there was a lot of people that lived in Dallas and were the kind of acquaintance friends that they reach out to when they want something. But they're always ready to tear you down. I have so many of those. I know. I know. Right. And so do I, apparently.

There were so many people that I think, like, I was gone for four months. It was almost like they thought that I was, like, gone forever because I don't think that they realized I was coming back. So then when I got my phone back and I came back to Dallas, I, like, saw, you know, like, people were, like, selling stories to the media. People were, like, talking on, you know, Instagram. Like, all, you know, just, like, because they're trying to kind of latch on to you. Right. And I was like, did you bitches not know that I was going to be back and that you'd have to face me? They're conspiring against you.

Or, like, no, everyone's a conspiring bitch. But, no, but it was, so I think, like, I really figured out who, like, my real friends were and who my fake friends were. And then also not having to make, like, actual real world decisions for four months was really difficult and I still can't go to the grocery store without like really stressing out about like which like what shampoo am I gonna get like I don't know like it's just because for four months I was just kind of it was stressful yes but it wasn't like real world stress so I'm still I'm still messed up still adjusting yeah still up. So you were there for four months? It's about four months. If you count the sequester period before.

Wow. Because they have you sequestered because they don't want you knowing who the cast is. They don't want you, you know, because they do the whole cast release before. And you're doing, like, press interviews. And they're bringing in, like, the wardrobe team. I kind of felt like I was on The Hunger Games a little bit. Like, they're getting me ready for the battle. It was honestly one of the most fun parts of the whole summer.

But, yeah, but between that and then, of course, I was in the house for, I think, like, 58 days. Oh, my God. And then I went to, I know, right? I aged so fast. And then I went to Drury, which was a lot less stressful. But, yeah, it came out to be, like, three to four months. They really limit the alcohol that they give you guys on the newer seasons. From back in the day, they were drunk half the time.

Yeah, it was a total sham because what they would tell us, well, production wouldn't tell us. This is like a rumor that I think we started in the house. We thought that when we went to jury, it was going to be like alcohol flowing. It was going to be like a big party. And we're like, yeah, I got evicted, but I'm going to jury. Oh, so jury's different too then. Oh, no, jury. They gave us like, I think it was,

you could have two drinks a week. Are you serious? A week? I know. Not like an hour? I know. So, yeah, it was, so we would like drink. This is, oh my gosh, tips for future Big Brother contestants. I can't even believe I'm saying this.

My mom's going to be so embarrassed. So we would like not eat all day and then we would drink and then we'd get in the hot tub. So like, you know. How can I get drunk quick? I mean, and I know it sounds so bad, but we were trying to be, like, creative with it. But they do it to protect us because, you know, I mean, when there's alcohol involved in fights, it just gets so much worse.

No, I get that. Yeah, but even if they limit you to two per day, no one's getting drunk unless you're my boyfriend. Especially not me. But there was a time. I'm embarrassing my mom so much right now. There was a time in the house. It was the week that I was getting evicted.

And they surprised us with wine and beer. So I did smuggle a bottle of wine, like, pretty much, like, to myself. And I did get. Yeah, I did get drunk that night. Yeah. Can you go back really quick. It's on the live feeds. And touch on when you said the wardrobe check.

What did you mean by that? Oh, they have, like, a whole wardrobe team like they um i was the worst packer for big brother ever because they kind of convinced me that i wasn't actually going to be on the show because they wanted me to be surprised when they gave me my key okay but i'm that kind of person that i always wondered how that works because i'm i'm like are you guys really surprised when you get we are we're really yeah i I mean, there's cameras around. Oh, no, I'm so gullible. I'm like, come on.

No, they were like, I remember leading up to it, they were like, well, we might, like, you might be on the show. It's like we haven't heard back from the network yet. And this is like I'm supposed to leave like two days from now. And they're like, well, you might hear, like, we might hear back from them. We haven't heard back yet. So just, like, be packed, ready to go just in case. But you never know. And then I had heard from one of my friends who had a friend who he was going to be on Big Brother and like the Wednesday before they asked him and said actually like you're no longer on

so then I was like well I'm sure that's gonna happen to me yeah they're probably gonna call me like on Monday when I'm supposed to leave and say that I'm not on but they were also like oh but we're gonna send the camera crew out because we really want you on so we want to get some footage of you you know just kind of like live in your life okay so I know I'm so dumb and now I just totally blew their cover I'm sure it's somewhere in my contract I'm not allowed to say that so I'm sorry but so I was really stressed but I also like unpacked everything because I was like they're not gonna pick me like I'm just that kind of person that I'm like okay they already said no well I mean I guess I'm not but then sometimes I you know I was like I okay, they already said no. I mean, I guess I'm not, but then sometimes I, you know, I was like.

I think you were perfect for the show. Well, thank you. No, we love you on there. Well, thank you, but I don't know. They were just convincing that I wasn't, so I kind of unpacked. Like, I didn't pack any, or, yeah, I didn't bring any live show clothes, so I had to send the wardrobe team out to buy me new dresses, and I only brought athleisure,

and that was kind of like a running joke in the house with, like, how badly I had packed. I say I had no idea they kind of monitored or suggested what you should bring. Yeah, and also, I mean, they will pull out a lot of, like, you can't really have too busy of prints because of the cameras. Sure. And also, my friend Sydney, who I'm doing the T-shirts with, she had given me a whole bunch of her Live Love Game Day shirts, but they have slogans on them, and they took all of them because they didn't know which ones were copyrighted, which ones weren't. And, I mean, it was her company, and and I was like they're all copyrighted by her so

you know like trust me but they're like this girl doesn't know what she's talking about take the shirts that was the thing with like YouTube I was like last night we were doing a vlog and I had a poison like band shirt on and I was like wait am I allowed to wear this because it's like you can't wear any of that stuff on reality or network television but

YouTube you can do whatever you want. Well, you can't. Well, I mean, not like music, but I mean you can wear what you want. I was like, because there's a really quick transition until I get to Pornhub. I'm kidding. So, one of the things I was seeing

with you about aliens and Area 51 and conspiracy theories, I wanted to know... I'm wearing a nasa shirt today and she said she's a martian yeah i know oh my gosh no i was so when i went to go i got the shirt from ross but um but when i was checking out the cashier was like oh are you getting this shirt in honor of the astronaut that just came back from outer space and i was like no i'm getting it for the aliens i'm that person but anyways about aliens i love it so i love conspiracy theories my mom hates them

she hates whenever i bring up any conspiracy theory oh my gosh i'm so excited what's your latest what's your favorite i want to know from you i don't like there's so many government conspiracies that i love and I live for. But I don't want to talk about them publicly because I know enough about those that people will mysteriously kill themselves or plan crash. So I'm trying to save myself. Right. So we're not going to talk about those. But there are a lot of really good ones out there.

I've heard those as well. But I think my favorite, like, you know, it's harmless, it's whatever, is the fact that Avril Lavigne died and was replaced by a clone named Melissa. Oh, I know. I've heard this one. Yeah. I died and was replaced by a clone named Melissa. Oh, I know. I've heard this one. Yeah. I believe it. We've all heard that one. Oh, you don't really, you believe it? Yeah.

Do you not? No. No. I know. It's very convincing. I've read a lot, but I don't know. They have different, like, if you look at her old pictures and then now, she has moles in different places.

Her look and her, like, persona and her, like, red carpet, everything has completely changed. Like, she's a different person. Wait, okay, so then maybe I saw her clone perform at Sundance last year. You did. That was Melissa. Yeah, Avril died in, I think, 2013.

Oh, my God. Stop. It's true. Okay, so another one that I just saw last night. So Tupac's still alive. I thought he was living in Canada, but it turns out he's living

in New Mexico, and they're making a documentary about it. Interesting. So Iupac's still alive. I thought he was living in Canada, but it turns out he's living in New Mexico and they're making a documentary about it. Interesting. So I'm excited about that. Yeah. I mean, the actor who played him in Straight Outta Compton, I was like, that's Tupac. That is Tupac. It probably was.

I mean, I believe it. Yeah. I mean, I don't really believe that. That's actually kind of a stretch. But you never know. I feel like he's hiding in plain sight. You never know. I mean, and there are so many conspiracies that i'm not going to name names

you already know which one i'm talking about that i would just love to believe are true because i would love to believe that people didn't actually die but we're not gonna go there because they're government ones i know i know you have to be careful about that but i wish that if i could have redone my life you know start over you know in school maybe you can be cloned no well i wasn't gonna go there but that would have been kind of cool but um no but i wish that i would have gotten into like poli sci and like you know like like i don't know like maybe to do like work in the government uh-huh so then i would know the answers to all these conspiracies like it wouldn't be because that's actually like what i want to do is just like get answers i love that kind of stuff so there's my boyfriend he showed

me this how i love it i forget what it's called exactly. It starts with a Z, and it's spelled really, really weird. But it's on Netflix or YouTube. I think it was maybe YouTube we found it on. It's like Ziggy's, whatever it is. But it's three different conspiracies. There's one about God. There's one about 9-11. And then there's another, and I don't remember what it was about.

But it's just very interesting just to hear the theories, to just just hear different points of views I just I find it crazy people that make this stuff up yeah but even I mean things with religion and the stars and just like similarities and different stories and different cultures and it's just like it was very interesting yeah it is I know stay woke yeah so yeah it's something I don't know that's actually why I don't really watch that much tv or I don't watch tv That's actually why I don't really watch that much TV or I don't watch TV or movies because I spend so much time Googling on my phone about, like, conspiracies.

Like, literally, like, today, like, well, actually, I don't even think I can read this one out loud. Okay, no, this is the last link that I sent my friend today at 1230. Anthony Bourdais knew too much. Viral conspiracy theory claims. Oh my god. So I mean that's like literally my life. I send

my friends like I'm like check this out. And they're like Catherine we don't care. I'm like no. Read it. Yeah. I just found this Instagram I came across. I think I was commenting on I want to say it was like a Miley Cyrus or like someone's page like that and I just saw this one. It like had like the evil eye whatever

thing. She's in the Illuminati. And I saw it was like conspiracy theories. I was like oh I'm just going this one it like had like the evil eye whatever she's in the Illuminati and um and I saw it was like conspiracy theories I was like oh I'm just gonna click on this page and I started reading all these and I'm like okay no way but like interesting how people think I mean there was one about Kobe and Clinton and it's like I mean come on it's too early for that that's way too soon and it was just like so far-fetched that I like, but it intrigued me. Yeah, but then you're like, this is far-fetched. What else is there on here? Yeah.

I don't know. It's definitely interesting. It is. I love it. But my mom hates it. So moving on. She looks disappointed. She's like, mm-hmm.

So I have a few questions that came in from some fans. So I have a few questions that came in from some fans, but also I am trying to ask my guests now the same few questions just to get to know people a little more and to see what we have in common. So what would you say is one of your biggest insecurities? I'm actually okay because I know and one of the comments that came in too is she's so confident ask her how she does it I'm honestly that's I want to know if there is an insecurity okay I don't want to be like that person like I'm not insecure um I do think that I am unrealistically confident about things that's good though but I think it's because like growing up, like my parents raised me to really like, I mean, of course like

I mean, of course they raised me great, but this wasn't like a I'm trying, I don't know if this makes me sound bad or it makes me sound bad, but like they really convinced me that like every like as long as I was like doing my best, like I was the best, you know, like they didn't care if I made straight A's or they didn't even make it, they didn't even care

if I was like getting like a C in a class. As long as I was trying and studying, they were like, you are so smart. You're this. And then in pageants, even though that can obviously be a very crippling place if you're not approaching it with the right mindset, but I always approached it like you couldn't convince me that I wasn't

going to win. And then if I didn't win, then my parents were like, ah, you were still the best. I was like, you're right. I was. mean I don't know that's what my parents were too and I think that's great because it has instilled me so much confidence and there's a lot of girls that I competed in pageants with I was in the dance world with that it did make them crumble because they always took the losses as like I'm not good enough and then in my my delusional head I was like I think I'm too good this is a mess I can't even believe I'm verbalizing no no because I feel like I used to have more of that mindset and I feel like the last few years

I've completely lost that and that was one of the things I touched on in my Q&A vlog is like I do have these insecurities that I never had before but it's like from past relationships there are things that I was so confident about before that I now carry over into my new relationship or friendships. And it's just like something that I am trying to get better about. But I'm also like I'm not afraid to talk about it because usually on Vanderpump Rules, I act like everything's perfect and I'm perfect and nothing's wrong when that's not reality. Well, I will say, though, I will say, when I, I guess looking at my Instagram, I do, I love having like a full out photo shoot for stuff. So I love like posting a pretty picture and I do, I FaceTune my photos.

Everyone does. That's the thing. Everyone does. But I FaceTune my photos. I'll edit my photos, but I'm open about that. Like if someone tries to call me out on FaceTuning, I'm like, yeah, I did. That's like, I'm not hiding it. Like I did.

But I think that there is something like super empowering, especially like being on Big Brother where we had live feeds 24-7. Right. So people saw me at my worst. It wasn't like I was trying to put on a facade of I'm, like, I'm so perfect. I'm so this. Like, it was very, like, real and very raw. And, like, getting, like, I think when people see people, like, being themselves, that they are more drawn to that person.

Yeah. they are more drawn to that person yeah um so ever since big brother that's been like a huge um i think win as far as you know from what i've learned on the show is that i realize that people do love seeing me and my like i'll go on my instagram story with my pimples out and everything people love that i know i'm trying to do more of that so it's not even about pimples because i just have good skin thanks to my mom well we're not all so all so blessed. But, I mean, I don't know. It's like there's a difference between, like, I hope people realize that, like, yes, I am confident. But it's not because I'm, like, trying so hard to be perfect. Because I think that that's always kind of masking something.

That's always masking insecurity. Yeah, I agree. It really is that, like, I feel like I surround myself with enough people that kind of empower me through that. But I am, I don't know. I mean, I guess I am insecure about like uh oh I hate when people call me dumb that's the one thing that was a big thing on mine too I hate like I wouldn't say I'm insecure about that because I don't really believe that I'm dumb but like in the big brother house my strategy was to play dumb and I guess I was doing a really good job at it

and then when people started calling me dumb I got so upset because I forgot that it was like my strategy yeah but I don't know but a lot of people don't realize that you went to college that you have a degree yeah all of those things yeah i even saw some of those questions come in last night and they like i assume you're uneducated oh i get that all the time and i'm like and sheena was a 4.0 honor student all the way through college yeah i wasn't but she was and i'm proud of her for that. Yeah, that's a huge accomplishment. But it was how hardworking you are.

Yeah, it was so funny because a lot of those ones that came in, it was you're not educated, why are you are? Right. I was like, oh. You are. Okay. I don't know. I mean, I get so much of that. And that, I guess that is probably something that I wouldn't say that I'm insecure about, but it does, you know make me upset because I mean I know my worth but um I do get a lot of people that they're

like get a real job or like someone on my feed someone on one of my photos the other day was trying to tell me that I was like a bad role model for girls because I'm uneducated and I literally said bitch I went to Baylor University I mean yeah I know I mean I don't know I know Baylor's like I mean I think it's a great great school and I know because she came back and was like that's not even a good school I was like well I still win so don't come and say and it is a good school actually by the way man you know what I am insecure about this

because I totally let her win I'm not even going to shout her out but she was a bitch no but like it is hard to like see the comments come in and then it is kind of something like that. She's trying to attack my education, and I know I'm educated, but it's still hard. I don't know.

If you want to piss me off, just call me dumb, I guess. But going back to the Big Brother house, and I don't want to say you were insecure, but that's kind of the way I felt when you came off with the, are you guys conspiring against me? And then, of course, it was just a joke from there on out. No, it was a joke from the beginning that's what's so crazy and but as a viewer and i understand how no i know reality oh i know but as a viewer it was like you were paranoid no seriously i was paranoid you looked

but that's as a viewer you did look really paranoid like are you guys conspiring every time if somebody was over here talking it's like yeah that's the point of the game no no okay no so my dumb ass i guess i am dumb damn so um no so i was thinking like it was like literally day one and i was like who's conspiring on day one like our day two like we're all getting to know each other whatever i didn't realize i got alliance already formed whatever i was trying to lighten the mood and like walk into her and be like are you guys conspiring against me because i think they're not right but they were but of course they're caught on and now you're making money i know i know and people hate that too they're like they're like she just. But they were. But of course, when they just caught on and now you're making money. I know. Oh, and people hate that too.

They're like, she just went on with the slogan and I was like, I didn't, but it worked. Whatever it was, it worked. Exactly.

So who's the smart one? That's right. Exactly. Katie wants to know if you have any upcoming projects or shows because you need to be back on air. Well, I mean, at CBS, so I'm under contract with CBS for two years you have any upcoming projects or shows because you need to be back on air well i mean at cbs um

so i'm under contract with cbs for two years and um that doesn't necessarily mean that amazing race i would love to but i mean they didn't i don't have any pull on like that's what a lot of people message me and be like why don't you go on amazing race why don't you go on survivor i'm like i like thank you for thinking that i have that much pull with the network but it's literally like i'm waiting for them to call me. I mean, they know that I'm open to go on another show. It was so much fun. I love the whole production side of it.

It was nothing but a really great experience that I would love to do again. So it really just comes down to if CBS contacts me again. Was it Jessica and Cody? Oh, yeah, they went on the race. I mean, they pretty much went roughly after getting out of the Big Brother house. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying that this is like I have I have no hard evidence to back this up. This is just like in my head.

But season 21 of Big Brother was not really that well received. I mean, it was very controversial. Luckily, I wasn't really part of the controversy, but there were a lot of people that were. So I can kind of see them maybe maybe cooling their guts a little bit on season 21, condescendants. But I mean, this is a hot take. So, man, CBS is going to come at me someday. They're going to be like, Catherine, did you not read

the contract? CBS hates me. No, CBS is a hate. Actually, I feel like CBS is very, I mean, they've been nothing but a joy to work with. Sheena's kind of banned from the CBS slot. Oh, no way. What'd you do? I had a weed pen in my purse when we went to a taping of Dancing with the Stars. Are you not banned from CBS?

The CBS lot said that I brought an illegal substance onto government property. And they go, would you bring this on an airplane? I said, yes, sir. Every week. It's legal. And he's like, well, on that side of the fence, it's legal. I said, then there should be a sign that says no vaping, no smoking, no pet peeves. But go back and say how it happened.

It didn't happen just like that. I mean, Dancing with the Stars tapes, it's ABC. But they tape on the CBS lot. We now found out that that lot is federal land. Who knew? And so when they went through, we were going through. And we do this every year. They invite Sheena to come. They give us great treatment. It's awesome. So we go through. They going through and we do this every year. They invite Sheena to come.

They give us great treatment. It's awesome. So we go through. They go through our purse and this and that. So Sheena wasn't even like she tried to hide anything. It was just there. And she was like, yeah. Yeah.

And then they were like, they pulled it out and they're like, oh, you can't have this. You're going to have to check in and get it after. And I was like, oh, I go, I have my medical card. And I was like, I promise. I'm not going to smoke it in there. I'm 30 something years old. I'm not going to do that. And they were like, it's what? And I was like, my medical medical card. And I was like, I promise, like, I'm not going to smoke it. And they're 30-something years old. Like, I'm not going to do that. And they were like, it's what?

And I was like, my medical marijuana card. Like, it's medicine, technically. California, it's legal. And they were like, and they call over security. All these security guards come over. I am, like, being, like, sequestered now. Seriously. They're, like, monitoring, like, just examining this, like, vape pen.

And I was like, it's weed. What is the big deal? I'm not from Texas so we think of weed differently than... You'd definitely be sequestered in Texas. Man, but that's good to know though. We're in Los Angeles. I've thought about it. If I were to be asked back

on Big Brother as a contestant, I'm like, I'm for sure smuggling a phone in my suitcase. But at least I know I cannot smuggle a weed pen. Yes. I just want to give a weed pen. Yes. No. I just want to give a shout out to Ash Marie Davis. She was the one who said you were so confident. Wanted to know where that came from.

Stephanie asked me. Oh, well, actually, I do want to, I did want to say one more thing about that because I feel like I'm coming across as like a cocky motherfucker. Not at all. Oh, and. There's a difference between confidence and cocky. But, well, thank you. But I do. So I used, when I was competing in pageants and I mentored a lot of young girls,

I would always teach them that it's so important to be your own number one fan. And to always, like, I would even say, like, you know, like, when you're competing, like, print off photos of yourself. So, like, while you're looking at other girls and you're thinking, like, oh, my gosh, they're so pretty. They're so this, they're so that. And they would forget about what they had to offer. They could, like, look at a bomb-ass photo of themselves and be like, wait a second. Like, I'm a bad bitch too. But I think that it's

so important to teach people to be their own number one fan because if you're not going to think that you're the best, no one else is going to think you are either. That's a really good point. See, this is helping me personally right now. A little therapy session. You come off as very confident.

But I think it's not always genuine it's me masking something that i don't want to show because i feel like maybe the person in the scene with me like doesn't deserve to hear like the real vulnerable side of me or sometimes i just hold back but towards the end of this season of anabomber rules you're just gonna see me completely break down and i'm actually kind of glad I did and even watching it back this season I'm like it's quite cathartic scene it's sad because I'm like I was in a very depressed place last summer so it's like sad to watch it back and see like oh my god like that poor girl me but then it's like it is cathartic and it just like makes me want to do better and it's like it's okay like people struggle with anxiety and depression and a lot of us on our show do and not a lot of us talk about

it and i think it's important to talk about because there's a lot of people that aren't in the limelight and they look up to you and they're struggling with that and they're like oh like she like someone like that is so perfect like i wish i could be like that person and really like they'll probably have more in common than right so yeah so it is important to be you know transparent about that definitely that's what i'm trying to do in 2020 but it is it is a hard industry and it can make you hard if you let it there's a lot of people and even big brother season 21 that they let all the troll comments get to them so much and i just troll them back yeah oh i do too i clap back on twitter that's like my favorite pastime conspiracy theories and clap back wow i need a t-shirt that says that yeah all right kaylee doyle says cat what's one word you would

describe for the big brother experience conspiracy conspiracy i don't know i feel like this isn't this is way more words than one but it feels like I like jumped into a blender and like got like all like blended up and like spat out at the end of the summer. Like it literally felt like it was so chaotic, so turbulent, so like everything. I have nothing but good things to say about it, but it was a very, it was the hardest thing I've ever done, but one of like the biggest payoffs. Yeah. Love that.

One more question from me that I'm asking all my guests. What is one thing or place on your bucket list? Oh. Hmm. I mean, I'm so basic. I really want to go to Bali. Okay. You have to.

I know. I was just there for a week with my boyfriend. The best place I've ever been. Well, okay. So I've been following Hannah Godwin and her boyfriend and they've been in Bali for her birthday. And I mean, talk about like influencing because I'm sold. I want to go to the hotel that they were at, do all the things because it looked like so

much fun. They were like in their own little private hut. And I was like, man, this is the kind of life I need. Yeah. But I also want to go to Greece. I really want to go to Japan for the cherry blossom festival. I don't know. I just want to travel more, especially after being stuck in a house for three to four months. I can imagine. Like all I wanted to do is just like get out into the real world and just like travel. Yeah. So I haven't really done that much traveling yet but i've also

been you know it takes a lot of lifestyle no i'm not really i'm 30 really i know i would have been like 25 i'm really immature from age i'm 34 and clearly i'm either 34 or 16 but honestly no i okay so um this is like a i feel like this is like maybe like a newfound confidence of mine i used to like kind of joke and say that I was 25 forever. So every year, like my friends knew that like they don't say my real age. They say like happy 25th. They give me like, you know, the like the balloons say 25 and whatever. But now like I I'm really not that embarrassed to say I'm 30.

I'm almost more like proud of it. I love it. Because my this is another troll. My friend Jess, who I was on the show with, we were in Miami together. And someone sent her a DM. And they were like, why are you hanging out with, like, you're a married woman. Why are you hanging out with this young, immature little girl? And I was like, okay, first of all, I'm 30.

But thank you for thinking I look so young. No, but it is like, I feel like people do try to use my age as like a way to bash me. And I'm like. They do that with Sheena as well. Yeah. And then you're like, bitch, I'm 34 years old. Yeah. And I know Botox doesn't have me looking 34.

So. I embrace it. Yeah. Shout out to your meds bogus, man. Dr. Meller. Thank you. No, but I mean, I don't know. I just feel like age is just a number.

And honestly, I feel like when I look at the influencers on Instagram, I think are so pretty, they're all, like, 30 and above. Yeah. So is 30 the new 20? That's exactly what I say. In so many of my cameo videos, when it's, like, someone's 30th birthday, I'm like, and just remember, 30 is the new 20. I'm way prettier now than I was when I was, like, 20-something. I feel the same way. I'm like, and that's the thing.

I have not had a nose job. I just got better at doing makeup, contouring. Like, I think I'm, like, better now than I was when I was 22. But I haven't had work done. Yeah. I saw a question. They're like, come on, Sheena. Just admit it.

You know you had a nose job. And this is one thing I acknowledged in my first vlog. I'm like, if I did, I would be shouting out that doctor. Because clearly my nose looks so good that you think it's fake. I would be like, everyone from the best nose job. She's broken twice as a child. Her nose has been broken twice. But I was always too afraid to get it fixed. So I have a slight. It doesn't nose to a club. She's broken twice as a child. Her nose has been broken twice. But I was always too afraid to get it fixed.

It doesn't need to be fixed. It clearly doesn't because people think people would pay money for your nose. I have two little bumps on it. I think I have a slight deviated septum. My allergies are terrible. But I'm too afraid to touch my face with anything permanent. Filler and Botox is all temporary.

That's all temporary. But what people don't realize is it's about contouring. I mean, it's all about the makeup. And she says, no, it's about makeup. It really is. Even Brock thought that I, he was like, babe, he's like, you facetuned that photo a little too much. I was like, honey, you were standing next to me when Priscilla, my makeup artist, took that photo after a fresh contour airbrush.

And it was really good lighting. Yeah. You're like, i'm just that pretty actually i've i've even clapped i'm like i promise sheena has not had a nose i would admit it gladly like i have no shame in anything i've ever had done especially if you like i mean especially if you like paid money for it i mean i have had a nose job so like whenever people and but it was when i was much younger but i have so many people all the time that are like wow you have had so much work done and i'm'm like, I haven't.

Like, I've had my nose and I've had my boobs done. I get Botox. I'm like, wow, thanks. I look that good. But those are just like standard touch-ups. But I also love that kind of stuff. Like, I was the one that grew up and, like, would read the tabloids about, like, which plastic surgery did this one have? And I'd be like, oh, my gosh.

So I love it. So if people talk to me about that, I'm like, yes, actually. Oh, yeah. But I haven't done it in so long. I this is like before i was 20 um so but even now they think that i have and i'm like well i just got way better at makeup yeah yeah and you say the same i mean you admit makeup is underrated filler the whole bit yeah exactly yeah well i know we both have a flight to catch and i want to get some snapchats and social with you before we get out of here so tell everyone where they can find you

and get your merch again. Oh, go find me on Instagram at Kat Dunn. K-A-T-D-U-N-N. And just go to my link in bio. I have the merch that's done through Live Love Game Day. I have the link to my YouTube channel. And then also you can book me for a cameo. I'm trying to think of what else I have in my bio.

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