Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Dating No Filter with Zach Noe Towers
Episode Date: August 14, 2020Scheana and co-hosts Jamie and Brett are joined by Zach Noe Towers from E’s “Dating #NoFilter.” Zach talks about his favorite part of doing the show, how he got the job and dating in LA.... Tune in to find out what kind of photos he likes to receive! We’ll give you hint… it rhymes with “chick flick.” Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA. Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea.
This is Shenanigans.
And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea.
Hey everyone, welcome back to Shenanigans.
I have Jamie Lynn back in the house co-hosting, as well as Brett Kenyon.
Hey.
And we have a very fun guest for you today. He is absolutely hilarious and so adorable from Dating No Filter on E, Zach Noe Towers.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi, how are you?
Good, how are you?
I'm good.
Thank you for being here.
Thanks for having me.
So we were all binging Dating No Filter last night.
Oh, yeah?
Yes.
And you are so adorable.
Oh, my God. I was was just like i just want to
put him in my pocket and take him with me everywhere i go feel free baby hold me up put
me under the bed so before we get started i have a video message for you and you brett oh god oh
my god yes what a threat i I'm starting to start out hot.
Because I feel like I can't get into stuff
until I play you this video.
So...
Oh no!
Oh!
You said we
exchanged some dick pics, but
I rechecked our conversation
and I'm pretty sure it's not true.
And you can ask Brett
I don't send dick pics
Honestly
I love this
I'm getting cancelled on this spot
Cancel me I'm tired
I never even saw Zach naked
When I went on three dates with him and slept in his bed
I lived with him
And I've never seen him naked
We all have a very mutual friend here.
Let's just kick it off.
Zach Wickham, who is one of Brittany Cartwright's bridesmen, was on Dating No Filter, dated Brett, and used to live with Jamie.
Oh my God.
I just talked to him on Grindr.
Oh my God.
Okay, so I was watching that episode last night
and you're like, there might have been some dick pics exchange
and then he called me and he's like, I did not send him dick pics.
I don't send anyone dick pics.
Even us, Brett and I dated and I never sent Brett dick pics.
But I've seen Brett's dick pics
and I was like, okay, there's a lot of dick pics.
My dick pics are great.
Let's see the dick pics.
I'll get them out.
I can't remember who ever wanted to see my dick.
I have one of him on a flamingo naked.
Oh.
I love you.
Come on.
I didn't want to see his because I'm like, no, that's like seeing like my brother.
Brothers.
Like, stop.
I forced it upon you.
He tricked it.
He tricked it.
He's like, hey, Jamie, look at this picture on my phone.
And it was his dick.
Whenever my, when I lived with girls, whenever my girl roommates were acting up, I'd send
a picture of my butt.
I'm like, there's more.
There's more.
I'll add it to the group thread.
Don't make me do it.
That's so funny.
Yeah, I definitely set it off the cuff in the show
because we do five episodes a day on that show.
And it's like, I knew I had talked to him on Grindr
and we maybe had been flirting.
It was funny.
Yeah, and like, I didn't mean to at all
make him uncomfortable, but like, yeah.
No, I think he was just like,
I stand by that I don't send
dick pics. He called me out
and that's not true. I looked at the conversation
and I was like, Zach, I don't care. Isn't that what
Grindr's for? Thank you!
Our founding fathers gave us Grindr
to send dick pics.
Okay, now, Jamie didn't
understand how it works. She's like, so did
you guys match on Grindr?
So, this is how I match on Grindr? So,
this is how I know who you are.
Oh, God.
Everyone goes around and says,
yeah. Welcome. I didn't follow
you until last night on Instagram, but
like two years ago, I saw you on Grindr
and I was like, oh, who is this guy? And I think we
briefly chatted.
Or dick pics exchanged.
I don't know. I don't know if dick pics are exchanged
probably because I just send them freely.
Great. I love that.
That's how I went on your Instagram. I was like, this guy is so
freaking funny. And then when
we found out you were on the podcast, I was like,
oh my god. We talked on Grindr.
Grindr's really bringing our community together.
And tearing it apart
in a lot of ways.
So I was like, oh, so you guys matched on Grindr?
And Brett's like, Jamie, you don't match on Grindr.
You see who's in your area, and you send each other dick pics.
Yeah, it's so funny how it's a gay positioning system.
You just see who's nearby, what they're into, and then you make it work.
My mom was asking Seth when he was over for dinner about Grindr,
and she was like, so do you do what Brett does when he comes out here?
Like, are you like swiping like right and left for people?
Your mom thinks I'm a whore?
I don't even have a dating app on my phone right now.
I swear to you.
It's the new Brett.
I like to just go and find people in person.
Oh, but you did.
Since I've had my house in Palm Springs, you have Grindr'd.
I mean, I deleted it like two weeks ago.
Okay.
And it's like all daddies in Palm Springs. you have grindered. I mean, I deleted it like two weeks ago. Okay. And it's like all daddies in Palm Springs.
I love daddies.
That's his type.
Do you?
I only date daddies.
Does Zach know that?
Well, I think.
That's why it didn't work out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got it.
I think I finally admitted to myself that I only like daddies.
Sure.
I was like doing it on the DL and now I'm like out and proud about it.
Hell yeah.
I'm like, fuck yeah, daddies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to get into Brett and his daddies because there was a recent podcast episode Hell yeah. Okay, yes, we will give you a throuple. So do you want to get into that now, or do you want to save that for a little later?
Oh my god, let's talk about our guest first.
I wanted to get his opinion as a dating expert.
I do want to know.
Okay, I was going to ask you this question anyways.
Sure.
What is your opinion on throuples?
I've never done it before.
In Mexico, I ended up being in a throuple for a weekend.
With fiancés.
Banging, yeah, this couple. Were they like a throuple for a weekend. I was like. With fiancés. Banging.
Yeah, this couple.
Were they married?
And it was just like a lovely weekend.
No, they're not actually married, but they're engaged.
And it was a really interesting experience.
Sure.
So what is your opinion on that?
When I hear it, it's fraught with danger in my mind.
Just because I've seen firsthand two best best like two guys have been together since
college they brought in a third and then that third took one of the guys and just ran off and
it destroyed the other one and i've but i've seen every combination of it happen like the guy who
comes into the relationship falls in love with both of them and then they're like it's not working
bye and then they have each other and you have your dick in your hand yeah um but yeah i mean like i'm all for it like i'm all for you doing it like and
trying it and like there's just as many failed like regular relationships as there are threesomes
i think so go for it you know be the shiny little object in this like daddy household yeah for sure
get whatever you can i try everything, twice if it feels good.
Yeah. But don't you think
in a throuple situation that
one is always going to get more attention than the other?
Absolutely. I think.
In my experience.
I can't speak upon...
And I wasn't the one.
Tune in next week.
Oh, God.
Oh, is it for you?
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so we talked about it on flashbacks which will be out with jessica hall and heather ray young next week and then we continue the
conversation on shenanigans so if you want to know about the throuple i was in and i don't think
we told most of the story on flashbacks i I'm like, I'm in a relationship now.
I'm trying to keep my podcast not as slutty as it was the first two years, just out of
respect for my boyfriend, his mom, his family.
Oh, no.
They listen.
So, you know.
It's so good.
Those stories are on other shows now.
Okay.
That's fair.
Yes.
I do agree, though.
Thriples can end badly.
So then what's your situation right now
um i feel like i shouldn't talk about it on here but we can talk after oh damn okay but it's fresh
it's like new yeah and it's fun it's fun yeah i'm trying it out i don't i don't know do you see
is your so your your goal long term would be to be added as like the third member of this band no i mean i always
thought i was going to be monogamous but i mean i'm just i'm very open to the war like wherever
the universe is going to bring me so oh it's brought you to mexico in a throuple
puerto vallarta thank you gracias all right so we actually met i think this was maybe three years ago
when you opened up for kristin at the improv yes that's so yes and also that involved dick pics
yep oh yeah yeah one of her part of her bit was yeah and they used a picture of jack's dick and turned it into like the starry
night and like all of these pieces of art and then britney was so pissed she did not find the humor
in it she's like i know that dick it's the starry night how can you tell that that's it's just a dick
yeah she knows but i think it was she had seen that photo before. So she knew that that photo was his dick.
That's so funny.
Is that like an app you can put your dick pics into?
That was their bit.
It was like, oh, yeah, we have this app.
Like, yeah, you know, if you don't want those dick pics, like, turn many.
That's cute.
That's so funny.
But Brittany didn't find it funny.
And it was like, why don't you just Google dick pic?
You know, why did you have to use one that had been sent to you prior sure i guess it was tweeted and it kind of went
viral and we all knew like we all unfortunately had to see it but it was like those are the shoes
those are jocks's shoes and that's definitely his shitty towel floor from his koreatown apartment
so it was like even if you try to say like like, that's not my dick, or like, what about
the background?
Like, bitch, yes it is.
Always look at the background, ladies, when you're getting a dick pic sent to you.
You gotta look at the background.
Did he make his bed?
Wipe the mirror down.
Exactly.
Fold the clothes.
Put them away.
Did he have a nice dick, though?
Ew, I don't remember.
Ew, gross.
We should just, like, put all the dick pics we've talked about on the table.
Yeah. Oh my god god rate them yeah so I know you
Jamie have followed
Zach since that day
but I know recently
there was a little Instagram
drama is there anything you guys want to
clear up well I think you're a
great sport for coming in not that you and I
had anything.
Like, you were so sweet to DM me.
But just to recap.
So you – I posted a video.
And it was a TikTok.
And it was, like, what I feed my top.
Like, this, like, dumb guy.
And basically it was, like, a handful of raw ground turkey, protein powder, and pineapple to make it just taste good.
And it's just a gross video.
And a lot of people came for me for food waste and stereotyping tops, which like, meh.
But to be fair, the meat was expired.
I had found it in the freezer with my old roommates.
I was like, how can I do something with this?
And the video is what came of it of it. But then, yeah. So I, you know, just being my
annoying self and I know, you know, you and I are friends in my head since we're friends on
Instagram. So this is something I would write on any of my friends pages, not really coming for
you, but more just like, hey, maybe don't waste an animal's life for a video and then just throw
it out. An animal actually died for that, you know?
I got snappy.
Actually, I didn't think what you said was that snappy.
Sure, it was sassy.
But you did say, but feel free to unfollow.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I say.
If you don't like what I post, fucking unfollow me.
Yeah, the simplest thing you can do.
I'm gone.
Yeah.
So then you have some diehard fans, i don't blame them like for loving you
so much and yes they're there for comedy i did not intend for that thread to go where it went
it turned into like it was insane and you guys should actually go look at it because you might
learn a thing or two about plastics in our ocean still up you didn't delete the comment no the
comments oh there was a lot of people and i There was a lot of people, and I was just... At this point, I'm just educating people because this one girl was like, oh, well, you're such
a hypocrite.
You use plastic straws.
And I'm like, first of all, how do you know if I do or don't use plastic straws?
Second of all, since we're talking about it and you brought it up, plastic straws only
account for less than 1% of the plastic waste in the ocean.
Right.
And the purpose of not using plastic straws anymore is to help the sea life and to save
the fish.
But you're going to eat fish.
Right.
Like you'll stop using straws to save the fish, but you won't stop eating fish to save
the fish.
So this was basically his whole threat.
So who's the hypocrite now?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I eat it, but I don't drink out of straws.
And then, oh my gosh, it was funny.
And then this one guy was like, no one's inviting her to a barbecue, which got me thinking to
Sheena's last barbecue that I was invited to.
Oh, we invited her.
The vegan.
Oh no, oh no, oh no.
She almost burned my house down.
Cooking a veggie burger.
Oh, cooking a veggie, not like out of anger.
No.
That's an animal.
You'll all pay.
No, not out of anger, but just out of being like, I don't want
my burger cooked on the same barbecue as you're cooking
the meat, even if it was cleaned and brand
new, which we understood.
So she took this adorable plate
that had red, white, silver
stars and whatever on it, put her
meat on it, put it in the microwave,
and no one flips over
a plate to read what's on the bottom, because
there's never anything written on the bottom of the plate.
It was a paper plate
but there was foil on it.
That's dumb.
That is their bad.
You know, we turned her vlog
into a PSA about it.
For other people to not burn their house.
Turn your plate over.
We had a house fire on July 4th.
Watch her vlog.
It's on YouTube.
That's so scary.
Yeah.
And we're like,
leave it to the vegan to burn it down
so i'm like you know what bacon lover 84 like maybe you're right maybe i shouldn't be invited
to barbecue you have a point fuck america burning the shit down it's like okay oh my god yeah
anyway enough about that i want to know how did you book Dating No Filter? Did you audition
for it? Did you know someone?
It was, I got a lot of
opportunities from doing stand-up comedy and they
just called my
people to ask if I would do a non-airing
pilot. And we shot this non-airing
pilot. I was partnered with a different girl,
not Kelsey Dara, who I'm with now.
And shot it, forgot about
it. Six months months later they called like
it got picked up in a series we still want Zach to be
a part of it
honestly when I embarked it was just like a
thousand dollar you know like couple
hour thing and then now
it's like you know a main gig
it's like the people's
couch but yeah but
dating it's fun they're still literally
we're in the middle of season two
they have 10 new episodes that they just keep pushing the the release but they've already been
filmed yeah they're done put them out i know new content they were supposed to go out in january
and now they've pushed to 2021 i auditioned for that already filmed i don't know that doesn't
make any sense i had a skype interview and multiple phone calls i was one of the first
people for season two and then they never called me back so like i'm not good enough whatever no
that we know that's not it beyond that show you're hotter than 99 of the people yeah i don't know
brett has this like weird like i i've never noticed it until the last couple months like
you have this like more insecure complex and i don't get know like I'm like you shaved your head and you can pull it off so like
why are you so insecure
no I know that I'm hot
but you don't put that out to the universe
all the time I know I'm embracing my daddiness
and I'm on a spiritual journey we were talking about
this good you know like I
am a confident bitch now yeah
I'm gonna find love and I'm gonna find success
and like it's all happening amazing
hell yeah it is my tattoo says it's all happening. Amazing. Hell yeah. Goosebumps.
As my tattoo says.
It's all happening.
I love it.
We're going to take pictures by the It's All Happening sign after too.
Because I'm wearing basically a t-shirt dress, but it looks like I have no pants on.
I do have shorts under, but let's just do sitting photos today.
All right.
We have, oh, there's so many things.
Where do we start?
Okay.
Actually, one thing that I want to ask all of you.
So wait, are you single?
I'm like literally, I'm in a fight with the guy I'm seeing right now.
Okay.
So like I'm open.
Okay.
But you are a dating expert.
I mean, I've dated a lot.
Yeah.
But I mean, just your commentary on dating and whatnot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
a lot yeah but i mean just your commentary on dating and whatnot so yeah i want to know what is it like dating in quarantine should you be dating during a pandemic should you not be
should you just be doing a lot of self-love like what is all of y'all's opinions and you don't have
to admit if you have if you don't want to put that out there, but I just want to know what dating is like in quarantine.
Sure.
We can all answer this.
I'm a lot less active.
I'll say that.
For sure.
Are your toys more active?
No.
Just worn down to a nub.
Doesn't suck anymore.
I used to be a pretty active dater, but I've definitely eased up just because, you know, doesn't suck anymore.
I used to be a pretty active dater, but I've definitely eased up just because I don't want to be around a lot of people on a regular basis. So I'm really picky with the dates that I do go
on, but I'm still not vetting them very well, obviously, because I had the weirdest date of
my life during quarantine. So this guy, he's like, okay, well, you know, I'll invite you over, but not into my house.
I'm like, good.
I don't want to go into a house.
You're a stranger anyway.
But just, I live in the Hollywood Hills.
Come over here.
Come on.
The stroll.
We'll go for a walk around my neighborhood.
It's beautiful.
We could have a glass of wine and walk around and talk and get to know each other.
Sounds cute. That's cute. Let's do it. And by the way, he has a house in the Hollywood Hills. Sunset beautiful. We could have a glass of wine and walk around and talk and get to know each other. Sounds cute.
Let's do it. And by the way, he has a house in Hollywood Hills.
Sunset Stroll.
So I get there and I'm
driving up and it's like literally
deep, deep into the hills.
It's so steep.
So I finally find parking
and I'm out of breath by the time I get from my car
to his front step.
So then he comes out.
There's no wine to be had, first of all.
And he's in like workout gear.
And I'm in a cute dress and sandals because I thought we were going for a stroll.
Yeah.
Evening stroll.
No, we're going on an aggressive hike.
Like on dirt roads, mind you.
Not even on a regular road. no wine here i am being forced
to exercise months into quarantine when i'm super out of shape at this point and i'm sweating and
i'm out of breath trying to like talk to this guy and i'm like oh and ends he's like oh i'm just
gonna stay six feet away from you just so you know i'm like what the fuck is this no wine keep
your distance and we're gonna work out
i can't believe you didn't see what you were wearing and like pivot his plan you know like
yeah right the nice stroll that he was talking about he was so weird and like he was a vegan
and i'm like awesome you know but no no no no he's a fraud because we come across this little turtle on our hike. And he eats it. And that was turned over.
He made the most delicious turtle soup.
It was turned over, like, dying.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Can you go flip that turtle over?
Like, save his life.
And he's like, I don't want to touch it.
And I was like, I thought you were, like, an animal lover.
What's wrong with you?
Like, you're scared to touch a little turtle?
He was so tiny, too.
And I was like, fuck you.
I'm going to go help this turtle. So I go across the street and, like, it over and like he's like jumping and he's scared and then the turtle is just like basically in the street and i'm like well now he's
gonna get hit by a car we need to move it can can you move that can you pick him up and move him
like into the grass and he's like i don't want to touch it and i'm like fine i'll move this turtle
and i'm moving the turtle i'm like this is the worst date of my life. So we finally like, finally, we're done with our loop. And I see my car and I just jetted for
my car. I'm just like, bye. Thanks for the date. Goodbye. And I just got in my car and I left. And
I'm like, that was awful. Did he follow up? He followed up on something he argued with me about,
which was that 6% of Americans are now vegan. And he was a vegan himself.
He should know these stats.
He's like, it's probably less than 1%.
Ew, he thought up with you on a fact check?
Yeah, so he's like, yeah.
I know.
He's like, okay, fine.
You were right.
It is 6%.
I just never wrote back.
I hate this guy.
What were his stats?
Like age, job?
33. And a house in the hill which is older than she's been dating recently so we're like good yeah someone closer to your age homeowner
a vegan like it's just so easy no but they're better they're better they're better in bed
they're more fun they're they try more like the 30 year olds are the 30 year olds that are left
over are left over for my boyfriend just turned 30 but he was 29 and i was like oh i wish like you were a little but i was
like yeah the the 20 somethings you know sure yeah there's a certain niche that i need to find
it needs to be like when they finally get a divorce from their first marriage and they're
ready to date again i need to find them in that stage because you don't want someone broken
they're all like not too broken sheena
everybody's broken i know that that's true this is getting too deep for me let's talk about how
deep you were going in mexico yes listen i have been getting tested for covid every week but i'm
gonna live my life and i was masturbating like five six seven eight times a day in quarantine
we talked about this so Rubbing yourself raw.
Yeah, my poor dick was like, all right, stop.
So then I was like, okay, it's time to like venture out into the wild
and like find some real dick and ass.
And so, yes, I've been, you know, occasionally sleeping around,
but being careful and judge me.
We don't judge.
It's a no judgment zone. I'm talking to the listeners that are going to probably. But they will judge you. We don't judge. It's a no judgment zone.
I'm talking to the listeners.
But they will judge you.
I have been very safe. I wear my mask.
I'm not fucking someone every week.
Is the mask the only thing you're wearing?
It's a jockstrap.
I've been very good during quarantine
but I don't think there's anything wrong with
living your life. We all have needs.
I want to hear your story.
I relate to that. Like, mine has
been, like, the really, the progression of
match or chat, see
if you even like this person. Because it used to be
like, oh, I can, like, get by with a hookup
on this person. But now I'm like, oh, like,
life or death might be on
the table. So already I'm, like,
sifting through the losers faster
to get to the FaceTime date
to see if I even want to like
risk meeting them in person. And then it's kind of like a socially distanced date and like maybe
a couple of walks, a couple of coffees. And then it's like, did you get tested recently? Did I get
tested recently? And you can get tested in your inner circle. Sure. Are you quarantining? Like
all these things. I'm a grinder now. You like you always would see, you know, negative. And they
would say the date that they got tested for STDs or HIV.
And that's COVID negative. I'm like, hey, are you
negative? They're like, yeah, I don't have HIV. I'm like, no,
COVID. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't care if you have HIV, but do you have coronavirus?
I'm on Truvada. I'm on
PrEP. I don't care if you have HIV.
You're good to go. I just got an antibody test
today. But yeah, so then it's like, but I agree with what
you're saying. When we found out that it was going to be the
long haul, I'm like, well, I can't masturbate forever. I need human connection. then it's like, but I agree with what you're saying. Like when we found out that it was going to be like the long haul, I'm like, well, I can't
masturbate forever.
You know, like I need human connection.
So it's just been like really picky.
Yeah.
I mean, just dating in LA in general, because I was single for, it'll be a year that I've
been with my boyfriend next month.
But before that, yeah, I know it's crazy.
It's already been a year.
A year.
Kaboo was a year ago.
Oh my God.
RIP festivals. Have you seen what they're doing in the UK right now? Yes, it's crazy. It's already been a year. A year. Caboo was a year ago. Oh, my God. RIP festivals.
Have you seen what they're doing in the UK right now?
Yes, it's amazing.
The barricades.
Yeah.
I love it.
It's like my dream concert.
Concert.
Yeah, not festival.
My favorite part of festivals is wandering off, just rolling my ass around in the grass,
just going from stage to stage, walking around.
That's my favorite part.
Have you done Burning Man? No no that's on my bucket list it's great i mean yeah did you learn anything
there did you have any revelations i mean yeah kind of i used to not be like a shirtless gay
like i didn't like to take my shirt off and like burning man totally knocked out that like
self-conscious really yeah for sure because you're in your underwear for most of it or naked.
And so it's just like
you really get used to your body
or I got really used to my body.
I've never been
but people who go
they all seem to come back
with these like
life-changing epiphanies
and I'm like, wow.
Brett needs to go to Burning Man.
No, I had my epiphany in Mexico.
That was my Burning Man.
I was naked like all of Mexico.
There you go.
I was on drugs.
So like, yeah,
that was my Burning Man.
That was Burning Man.
He set something on fire at the end of it.
Love that.
All right.
Yeah.
What is your favorite part about doing that show?
And is there like a date that really stands out to you that you remember?
Okay.
Yeah.
My favorite part of the show is my co-host Kelsey Dara.
Cause we met the first day of shooting and we hit it off like no one
else I've ever hit it off with and it's just like I think we have really good chemistry yeah and
it's just like it was such a relief because it is like again like five episodes a day so you're just
like watching like hours of footage and they're like be funny like say something funny like keep
keep it funny you guys are so good together yeah and so it's so her I feel very like I can split
the workload with her. Yeah.
And then date-wise, I think there was a gay date and it was like a big little, which I love, like a little guy and a big guy.
Yeah.
And the little guy had like a crop top company.
Yeah, it's crop top.
And he brought him like a crop top.
Yeah.
And then he like made the big guy put on a crop top and it was just funny.
I love that.
Are they still together?
Do you get follow-ups for any of these dates?
Well, the big one
has hit me up
on Grindr since
did he send you
a dick pic
yes
yes
he did
a very nice dick pic
did the carpet match
the drapes
you know it does
there's been a remodel
not all big guys have
I'm just saying
oh yeah
no you're absolutely right
I went with like
a 6-7 guy once
and it was like
same
I was like where is
where's the rest
of it?
I said, you can put it in.
And he said it is.
No!
I remember you telling me about that.
I was like, oh, this is so disappointing.
That's so funny.
But yeah, the show's fun.
I just like the show in general.
Like it's, it's refreshing.
It's like a mindless, just like put it on and relax and like laugh.
Do you ever like catch yourself like wanting to be
bitchier but like feeling bad because you don't want to hurt their feelings if they see yes of
course of course and like even with them they they don't want us to like go negative all the time
we're like the whole object of the show is we're rooting for love like we want them to turn it
around we want them to like act right and like be cute. But like, you know, it's crazy people half the time.
I know.
Is that why they're chosen?
Maybe Brett, you weren't crazy enough.
I wasn't crazy enough?
I don't know.
I think sometimes, like a couple of the couples you really thought like, oh, they like each other.
But other couples, it's like one girl I think had like, she had like, oh, a guy brought a dummy like to talk with like a puppet.
And you're like, oh, no, this poor girl.
We're setting up with a guy who has a dummy on his hand.
So in my interview, they asked me because I'm known for dressing up at Taylor Swift concerts.
It's like really crazy.
I love Taylor Swift.
Loofahs.
Oh, my God, you love Taylor Swift.
Very much so.
And like red solo cups.
I dress like crazy.
And the producers asked her like, would you show up to a date in one of those outfits?
And I was like, sure, why not?
Yeah. And they still didn't use you. They still didn't use me. I would have showed up in a date in one of those outfits? And I was like, sure, why not?
Yeah, and they still didn't use you.
They still didn't use me.
I would have showed up in my red solo car.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
Damn.
Yeah.
Well, maybe next season, Brett.
Maybe.
Yeah, with masks on. Can I ask some fan questions?
Because I do have some fan questions for you.
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Owen would like to know, since you're on Dating No Filter, would you ever want to go on a reality dating show yourself?
Ooh.
Ooh.
It would really depend on the context.
Not like a Bachelor show or like an hour show.
Right.
But then there's like those like very real dating shows on like Netflix.
There was one dating show where a guy took like four different people on a date, but
it's like the exact same location.
Does that ring a bell for any?
Yeah.
And it was like a social experiment on dating.
And I would do a show like that.
Oh, yeah.
It's on Netflix, right?
But I don't like the idea of like, you know, producers.
Yeah.
I do not like the idea of my footage in producers' hands and they're cooking up something.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So probably not.
They don't do that. What are you talking about?
They edit you accurately.
Yeah, right? So only if I
could be like the hero. You know, like if it was
cute. Yeah.
I like that. What do you think
is going to happen with
LA Pride? So I've heard
that it's moving downtown and then I heard
that Santa Monica was doing one,
but like 2020 Pride, they kind of did something in WeHo. Have you, do you have any inside
information? No, not really. It's my favorite day of the year. It's like Christmas. I know.
It's, as far as I know, everything's gone digital. Like I've seen like some digital
pride celebrations. Grindr did like a huge digital pride. But yeah, nothing in person. It's just not, it's not possible.
Yeah. Sad.
It is sad. It's so sad. Oh yeah, I got into
some trouble in Pride's
past. Oh yeah. Yeah. Tell us about it.
No. Yes, give us your best
Pride story. I like don't, well, okay,
I did hook up with like my favorite
porn star. Wait,
can you tell me his name? Off this, yeah.
And he's daddy vibes. Wait, I wonder if it's the? Off this, yeah. And he's daddy vibes.
Wait, I wonder if it's the one that Seth dated.
Oh, really?
There's one.
It would be so crazy
if the one and only gay porn star I know
is who you're talking about.
I have two that lived in my building.
There are so many gay porn stars in LA, though.
Now with OnlyFans,
it's like, everyone's a gay porn star.
Is that part of his name?
No.
Oh, thank God.
Okay.
Oh, thank God.
First name Michael.
But do you know who I'm talking about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, for sure.
But yeah, it was very sexy.
Met him marching some around and then he put his name in my phone as his real name.
So I couldn't find it for the longest time because he told me his real name, but it wasn't
I know him by his porn name, you know, and then I finally found it and then we hooked
up.
But what's crazy is he's this like usually like this crazy top like this big dominant
top and I fucked him.
Yes, that was me.
I don't know.
No, I love when like a big like masculine, and you're like, oh, he's definitely
top.
And then they're bottom.
I'm like, yes!
Oh, my God!
The reverse!
I don't even know.
The reversal!
Yeah.
We love to see it.
It was so trippy.
I was like, because it was never a fantasy in my head to play out like that.
Yeah.
And it's been a really vulgar story.
Sorry.
So you're...
I'm like, I I drilled a porn star
so we're gonna assume you're
verse or do you like the bottom one?
I think God made me a bottom but
my goal
in life like my goal is to be
verse but my goal in life
if it were a choice I want to be
bisexual so bad
so bad you kind of, I want to be bisexual so bad. Oh my God. Same. So bad.
You kind of are.
It's just like,
I want to see,
I see the physical beauty in women so much and I adore women and I praise women and I
wish something would click where I could like show them and like be affectionate and like
want to like rub our bodies together.
I'm again,
a bottom in the gay scene.
But if I could, I'd be bisexual.
Yeah.
I just think it's really beautiful.
I think bisexuality is very beautiful.
Yeah.
I like it.
No one agrees.
They're like, nope.
I love it.
No, I mean, I think.
I mean, we've all been there.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, Jamie and I, just to get people away from us at gay bars, started heavy making out one night.
I was like, this is my girlfriend.
Get away straight, guys.
Oh, my God.
That probably drew more of them to you.
Yeah.
There was a little crowd forming.
Damn.
I was like, this is not working out well.
They're like, wait, we don't believe you.
Do it again.
Put a tip bucket out.
I actually want to fuck Sheena's bisexual friend so her and I can be Eskimo sisters.
Oh, you should.
You should.
But now he has a girlfriend, so.
Oh, he does.
Damn.
Yeah.
That's true.
I know.
So I like bisexual people.
There should be like a Google alert for people like that.
He broke up with his girlfriend.
You get like a text message.
I'm there.
So what's going on with comedy now?
Like, you obviously can't do any live shows right so what's
the status with all that i actually did do a backyard show it was a private party there were
20 people there everyone was socially distanced with masks on and i did a set there but it's been
zoom comedy shows which are horrible um and then i'm doing a drive-in show in august um so it'll
be like four comics doing short sets but for like at like a drive-in show in August. So it'll be like four comics doing short sets, but for like a drive-in.
I saw this at the Irvine Improv.
They're doing it on the parking lot roof of the Spectrum.
That's cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you guys actually been to a drive-in in LA?
No.
They're happening.
It's so much fun.
Yeah.
I haven't been to one like recently.
I grew up going to a drive-in.
Same.
But I haven't been to one like since
covid oh you should check them out because you can i don't live here anymore oh fuck i forgot
i know there's one in palm springs i'm in san diego now oh fuck okay she has two houses yeah
i'm all over the place damn girl just give me a two-hour drive and i'm there you're there
are you loving san diego i do yeah i it there. But my cats are still in Palm Springs.
And we're going to Arizona for my sister's birthday.
So we're going to leave from Palm Springs.
So Brett was there with them for me so I could move into San Diego.
But I couldn't leave them alone for that long.
So he stayed at my house for a few days for me.
And then I went back for a few days.
Now I'm going to San Diego tonight.
And then back to Palm Springs this weekend.
a few days now i'm going to san diego tonight and then back to palm springs this weekend going to sedona doing a socially distant four-person little birthday my sister and our boyfriends
and then once we get back from that then i'm packing up the cats full-time in san diego other
than when i have to be here to do podcasts that'll be like my la sure sure but i'm gonna try and make it not as much
but i mean like all of like my doctors and like anything important i need is still in la i'm not
gonna like go find a new botox doctor in san diego i will make the drive they're worth their
waiting you know like anyone touching this face like i trust one person i'm not just
gonna go anywhere totally i don't care if it's free or not no drive all night my botox doctor
is a plastic surgeon he knows exactly where to inject damn yeah that's exciting so other than
like those upkeep things and doing my podcast i'm like we're it's no secret we're not filming
right now a lot of shows are not in production the restaurants are not open right so i'm like we're it's no secret we're not filming right now a lot of shows are not in production the restaurants are not open right so i'm like i don't really have a reason to be here
full time i was paying a ridiculous amount in rent for five months i was there maybe five times
oh i think i lived in that apartment more than you did i really did she let me move in for like
quarantine because i was like it's good vibes good energy on the water
very open so i was like pack your shit go put a smile on your face drink all of my white claws
eat all of my top ramen and then come visit me in palm springs after how long when where did you
guys meet or when did you meet so we met through an ex-friend actually she served for purpose i
love when a person like that brings people together and then fucks up.
It was like meant to be.
I worked at one of the restaurants that's related to Vanderpump Rules.
Gotcha.
And then a mutual friend introduced us.
Yeah.
So cute.
We had like hung out a couple times and then we were shooting a music video in Palm Springs
and my girlfriend was coming out to just kind of assist and help and she's like
oh would it be cool if Brett Kenyon came and I was like I know I was drunk the other night when
I was like yeah come like let's have a party and I was like I don't really know him that well and
it's like a really intimate like sure is it your music video yeah my first one and so I was like I
mean he's cool right like and she's like no oh my god you're gonna love him
and then we ended up falling in love and we're like we don't need you anymore
we made out that night
did you really?
that's when I thought I was bisexual
you both look like good kissers
we are
I can see who Sheena is
I feel like you
eventually are gonna need to make out with Brett
no it's not happening
like I said you're like my brother to me
I can't go there
I mean same but it happened one night
in a game of pizza box
don't ever play that game again
we have to play pizza box
Brett's like no Zach come over
let's play pizza box
he brings his daddies out of the closet.
So Pizza Box is this game that that girlfriend who no longer serves purpose in our life invented in college.
Where I guess when you're from, no offense to anyone from the Midwest, but I guess it's just a little different than growing up in LA.
Let's fucking go.
When you're in LA, you don't do these type of games.
You go to Hollywood and you do fun shit.
You play with pizza boxes?
Apparently, in Ohio, you take a pizza box and you flip a quarter.
And wherever it lands, you draw a circle.
Whatever size you want.
It can be small.
It can be big.
And then you write a rule in it.
Okay.
So it's like make out with Sheena.
Okay.
And then the next person flips.
And then you keep doing it until the whole pizza box is full that every time you're flipping,
you're getting dared to do something.
Oh, my God.
And you have to do it.
It's like airdrop a nude so everyone got my nudes that night.
Yeah, so we all saw his dick.
Nice.
We also made out.
There was...
That's amazing.
That's fun.
That's a crafty game.
Max had a smart one.
Max Boyans.
He was like, Venmo Max.
Oh, yeah.
So every time we landed on that, we had to Venmo him money.
Uh-huh.
And it was only, like, $5.
But we landed on it a few times.
It was like, you know, like, you can't get too extreme.
You can't be like, give me a blowjob. That was like, you know, like you can't get too extreme. You're like, give me a blowjob.
That's like, whoa, whoa.
But yeah, there was some questionable things that people wrote on that board.
That's a good game.
My Midwest is showing.
Where are you from?
St. Louis, Missouri.
Oh, okay.
Friends from there.
Really?
Yeah, one of my best friends, Tom Sandoval, is from
there. Yeah, it's cute. I'm glad I grew up
there. I've never been. I flew in
to, I think it was
because there's two Kansas cities.
Yep. So I flew into one
of them, but then I drove over one.
I just remember going over a bridge to this cute
little town.
It was in Kansas, but I don't remember what
it was called. If you said it, I would
know it. But it was like
you went over the bridge and then
there was like this little area.
It wasn't Kansas City? No, it wasn't Kansas
City. I think I flew into Kansas City, Missouri.
Sure. Okay. And then you drove. Yeah. It was like
seeing a football player who had a game.
Was it college football? No.
No, this was professional. Oh, hot. Damn.
Fuck, yeah. I want to see that picture too. Oh, hot. Damn. Fuck, yeah.
I want to see that picture, too.
Oh, the things I used to do.
Yeah, we got into this.
Again, if you guys want to go listen to the flashbacks episode, I just did.
Oh, wait, no. It's not out yet.
Next week. I already recorded it, but it's not out yet.
I love it.
Yeah. You know what?
That's why I'm like, I can be so happy and secure in a relationship now.
Like, even when I got married at 29, I was like, I have done it all.
And, like, especially now, because even the last two years.
So I was saying, I have been with my boyfriend for almost a year now.
But before that, I was single for two years.
Sure.
And half of one of those years was spent in Las Vegas. I headlined in a show called Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
What a great show.
That should be a TV show.
I love that idea.
Or at least like a special.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, it was so much fun.
But it was like a scripted, improv improv audience interactive show I did every night.
Oh, cool.
And it reminded me of it, too, when you were saying just how you vibe with the person you're filming with.
I vibed with the person I did the show with.
And we were like at first, like we didn't know who each other was.
We were introduced through, do you know who Jay Rodriguez is?
Yeah.
So he was headlining in the show with Kendra Wilkinson.
That's who I saw it in.
Yeah.
And they're both good friends of mine so when i was in vegas going through a breakup i hit them up and i was
like please tell me you have a show tonight i'm having like the worst night ever i just need like
to laugh and they're like come to the show i loved it we got dinner after and they're like
we're both leaving the show in january you should like audition oh my god and i did but i was like
well yeah only i was like wait jay you're leaving too and my god and i did but i was like well yeah only i
was like wait jay you're leaving too and he's like i mean i can maybe extend it a little bit
and i was like well i don't want to just do it with someone random like i saw you in the show
like you're the person i would want to do it with yeah yeah and then he recommended his friend
chester lockhart love chester yes and then we fell in love and it was just like, oh, it was the best.
But single Sheena got into some shenanigans in Vegas.
It was better I wasn't vlogging back then.
I'm like, oh, I wish I document.
I'm like, enough went on Instagram story at the Magic Mike shows that it's probably better.
Is it like crazy being like a Vegas celeb in that sense?
Like where is there like a big like scene of performers like
behind closed doors like kind of and like where i lived at the meridian it was like basically like
the palazzo of vegas it's where like all the performers lived yeah and what i loved about
living there and just that whole community was everyone was so supportive no one was competing
for my role.
You were in Zumanity.
You were in this show.
Like it was like everyone had their own job
and we would go see each other's shows on our off nights.
I love that.
It was the absolute best.
And it was like right after Vegas Strong
when there was the shootings and all of that.
And just that community, how it came together
and everyone was so supportive.
I'm like, I don't want to go back to LA.
Because we do not have that here.
No. And then coming back and then it was season
seven and it was just...
Damn. Yeah.
Vegas. Vegas. Always have a piece of your heart.
I know. I miss Vegas. Do you think you'll
end up going back? So what's funny
is my boyfriend actually
moved to San Diego
from Vegas the month i moved to vegas
and we were working at hotels next to each other so we actually like could have ran into each other
in vegas and we both have a special place in our heart for vegas and he he also likes the raiders
so i don't know what that means. I don't know why I did that. Football. I mean, it's the way I said it. Yeah, I knew it was sports, but I was just being a good friend.
Oh, yeah, boo.
But we said we would love to get an investment property there and spend some time there.
Sure.
That's the only place other than San Diego that I've ever seen myself.
But I would never, I don't think, go to Vegas full-time, long-term.
Yeah.
But for a period of time, it was the best.
I bet.
I also want to do New York for a period of time.
I agree.
I have not done New York.
I've lived in New York City and Vegas.
I don't want to go unless I have, like, money or, like, a gig takes me there.
Yeah.
I mean, comedy in New York is amazing.
Yeah.
Of course.
I feel like every comedian needs to do that.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Yeah.
It's a good way to, like, train and get, you know, your teeth sharp. So have you only done comedy in L.A.? Yeah. Have you toured? I came up in that. Yeah. It's a good way to, yeah, it's a good way to like train and get,
you know,
your teeth sharp.
have you only done comedy in LA?
Yeah.
I came up in LA.
Yeah.
I'm at the level where I'm opening for people.
So I like open for comics.
I,
before this all happened,
I was opening for
a Spanish speaking comic,
Sofia Nino de Rivera.
She has two Netflix specials.
She has millions of followers
and she does her hour in Spanish.
And I do 15 minutes in gay boy English opening for her.
How was it received?
And she sells out like thousands of people venue, you know.
And every time I walk out on stage, it's like there's no way this is going to work.
Like there's no way.
And every time was a great time.
I do have a question because like I'm trying to pursue comedy to some extent and how is it being gay and in comedy because i know like it's very it's very
like a straight straight man yeah so it still is that like women women people of color and like
gay men definitely have an uphill battle but it's also like the tides are changing and it's like
it is kind of our time like yeah you know uh less heard voices are being amplified changing and it's like it is kind of our time. Like, you know, less heard voices are being amplified.
And it's fine.
Usually each show in L.A. has a gay on it.
So it's like in that way, I have a good chance of booking like the gay spot, you know.
So, yeah, it's good.
It's good.
There's not like any animosity.
It's just like in entertainment in general.
Like it's set up to make straight men successful yeah
i mean yeah there's no gay people on vanderpump rules and gays love bravo yeah they like eat up
the house and you guys are in west hollywood yeah yeah it just makes sense yeah i guess that's like
that's like a big story i guess that would have to be introduced because i guess with a gay guy
would come like gay like uh like uh dates and like that. Do you know what I mean?
Or not necessarily. I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
I think it would be interesting.
We'll do it.
We'll be dramatic. I'll throw shit in it.
Let's throw this out into the universe.
The last time I said a throuple
and then I was in a throuple a week later.
That's so true.
They're listening. My sister feels like our phones are tapped and I was in a throuple a week later. Wow, so true. That's so true.
They're listening.
My sister feels like our phones are tapped,
and I agree,
because you'll be talking about something,
and then an Instagram ad pops up,
and you're like,
how did you know I was talking about HelloFresh and saying that I like Home Chef more?
Like, how did you know?
Now you're trying to sell HelloFresh on me?
I'm like, uh-uh.
I see what you're doing.
Yeah.
Cookies, baby.
Did you have more i have more
questions yeah so chip would like to know what's the weirdest thing someone has asked you to do
to prove your identity i can imagine it's hard being in the public eye while on gay hookup apps
oh that's okay so this is interesting to me too because like if you're a catfish and you can choose to be anybody who in their right
mind would choose to be me you're cute shut up you have blue eyes blonde hair sure and i know
i'm not calling myself ugly or anything i'm just like but if i'm trying to get somewhere like
so i'm baffled when people don't believe it's me because i'm like why would anyone pretend to be
135 pound pale you know-something gay comedian?
So, I mean, I'm happy to verify.
Usually to verify, though, I'll go into Instagram.
Dick pic.
I'll send a picture of my dick next to my face.
I'll go into their Instagram and I'll like one of their posts from my account.
That's cool.
Oh.
That's smart.
That is smart. And this kind of piggybacks off of another
question is what percentage of
people are reaching out to you on dating apps or Grindr
that are just hoping to end up in one of your jokes
or one of your Grindr posts on Instagram?
Yeah, people, that
does happen more
and more. I guess the more I'm like on
TV and the more like the followers
and stuff, the more interaction I get with gay guys on Grindr that are focused on my entertainment versus my body.
Yeah.
And I will say I do—I kind of hate that when I can't tell if they're coming to be part of the bit or to hit on me.
Right.
But a good handful.
Probably, like, maybe 25%.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's fair. What a clinical answer. Sorry, I was, handful, probably like maybe 25%. Okay. Yeah.
That's fair.
What a clinical answer.
Sorry.
I was like, so last one or it doesn't have to be the last one, but Eric would like to know what is your dream relationship scenario?
Uh, do you want to be married in an open relationship?
Monogamous sugar daddy, same age throuple.
Yeah, definitely not sugar daddy.
I want to make my own money.
I wouldn't mind being a sugar daddy at some point.
Yeah, I've been a sugar mama
plenty of times in my day.
And did you love it?
I mean, yes, because I knew I was taking care of someone,
but then they felt extremely emasculated
when I was paying their rent and my rent
and we weren't living together.
That's crazy.
That's his problem.
That's crazy.
I'm not going to name any names
it's Brett
no I deal
so I've never really had a long term boyfriend
me either
oh my god
maybe you guys could be boyfriends
you guys should date
so the reason we actually brought you here today
it's a setup
I'm actually going to get under the table and suck your dick right now
yes perfect
what a great going away gift
but I will say I romanticize
the idea of a boyfriend or like
I would love to have a husband but in my head
it's like your best friend that you also love
to have sex with and like do everything with.
I have yet to meet a man who I enjoy physically and mentally.
Same.
It's tough.
And I feel like that it's like it's why it makes it so exciting when you find the person and you're like, oh, this is it.
Like this is what this is.
This does it for me.
You know?
Yeah.
But in the past, I'm like, you know, like don, like, don't talk. Or, like, the great guy,
the guy who's so mentally stimulated.
They have one but don't have the other.
And I don't want his dick at all.
So, yeah, just like a boyfriend or, like, a partner.
I think I'll be open.
When I do find it, I will be monogamous
as long as possible, but I don't really think
that we're meant to be with one partner
physically for the rest of our lives.
I think most gay men,
after a year or two, are opening up to some
extent, and then there's rules.
You gotta spice it up.
That's why so many straight people get divorced.
Sorry.
I'm so sorry.
No, I didn't even mean that. I forgot you got divorced.
You didn't bring anyone into the bedroom with us.
That's why I'm divorced.
Wait, are straight people living in a fantasy land, thinking monogamy is a thing? to bring anyone into the bedroom with us. That's why I'm divorced. That's why Gina's divorced.
Wait, are straight people, like, living in a fantasy land thinking, like, monogamy is a thing?
It is a thing.
I think it's different for everyone because, like,
Brock, you know, like, he is not
okay with me making out with a girl.
Any girl. Not just the one I dated
last year, but, like, any girl. Like, he's just, like,
no, no, no, no, no.
And other guys would be like, oh, my God, yeah, bring in a girl, have a threesome. It's like, I like he's just like no no no no yeah and other guys would be like oh
my god yeah bring in a girl have a three so it's like i think it's just everyone is honestly
different yeah and you have to work really hard for it there's just like there i think there's
been so much damage done in tv and film where it's like this fireworks thing and this like
an almost effortless thing and it's like that's not realistic and then like that's a heteronormative standard to find one
person who doesn't
yeah yeah and then we try to mimic that
and we're like we want that
and it's like no straight people don't even have that
they're like all getting divorced and like all
unhappy and it's not just like it's not just women
men too are like I didn't feel fireworks
sure you went on two dates
what are you expecting yeah yeah
fuck that animal doctor
you know who you are oh you know i wasn't okay yeah yeah you were uh no i wasn't referring to
him but yeah i was but him too him too all right well on that note tell everyone where they can find you, Zach. Yeah, it's at Zach Noe Towers everywhere.
Z-A-C-H-N-O-E-T-O-W-E-R-S.
There's so many different ways you can spell that name.
Yeah.
Zach alone, Z-A-C-K.
In fourth grade, I just spelled it Z-A-Q.
And my teacher was like, absolutely not, you little hoes.
And that's how they knew you were gay.
And that's his coming out story.
Brett, Jamie?
You can follow me at BrettKen13, B-R-E-T-T-K-E-N-1-3.
And JamieLynn24, J-A-M-I-E-L-Y-N-N-E-24, only on Instagram.
For all of your vegan questions, go to JamieLynn24.
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