Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Drinking and Podcasting with Raquel Leviss and Jamie Lynne 

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

This week, Scheana is joined by Raquel Leviss and Jamie Lynne for a drinking and podcasting episode. You know what that means - they’re spilling all the tea! The girls start by sharing their dating updates with Scheana and Raquel confesses to going on a date with a Bravolebrtiy. Who was it and will there be a date number two?! Stay tuned… They dive into the topic of self confidence and Raquel talks about what she’s been doing to prepare for the “Miss California” competition. She shares some of her previous insecurities and gives tips on what’s helped her with gaining confidence. Jamie Lynne talks about where she has been and why she hasn’t been co-hosting on the Scheananigans podcast. They wrap up the episode with sharing some of their favorite products that they swear by!     Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans   For tickets to the Scheananigans Live Podcast, click below!   Buy Tickets Here      Go to www.talkspace.com and use promo code shay to get $100 off your first month     Go to www.dipsea.com/shay and get 30 free trial       Produced by Dear Media   See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Shenanigans time. And boy, oh boy, do I have a treat for you. So it is Taco Tuesday. I had some tacos with one girl on my left. And I'm currently living with the girl on my right. So back on the podcast for the first time in a long time, Miss Jamie Lynn. Hello, everybody. I have missed you. I hope you all have been well.

And we have a very exciting episode coming up for you. Very impromptu. We were just, Jamie and I were getting tacos earlier. I got a haircut and I was like, I have to record some ads later. So I brought my podcast equipment. Like, do you want to just do a podcast? It's been a minute. And somehow, while we were just planning this impromptu podcast,

we roped in Miss Raquel Levis. Hello. Hi. Hey, Raquel. Oh Miss Raquel Levis. Hello. Hi. Hey, Raquel. Oh, my God. Okay. I love this. So we're going to do a catch up on these two single ladies dating lives.

And we're drinking some red wine. So it's a drinking and podcasting. And we're just going to see where we go. But before we get into their dating lives, I would like to remind you that tickets are still on sale for my live show coming up on May 12th at City Winery in New York City. I am so excited. I have a lot of fun things that we are planning. I have some guests that I want to announce soon,

but I just want to make sure they're like super committed before I announce them. Yeah. So if you're in the New York area, come and see me. Or if you're in the Atlanta area, come see me on May 7th at Lala's. Give them Lala's brand new podcast tour because I will be there as well. But anyways, do we know what you're doing at Lala's? We have. See, I don't know if she's announced the segment yet, so I don't know if that's for me to say, but Brock had a good idea for a segment. And when I brought her the idea,

she was like, oh my God, I love it. We're doing it. So can you give us a little hint? Don't you have to say the whole thing? Things to look out for. It's yeah, it's like a game. It's going to be audience interactive and it'll be like advice, but also like, is it?

Is it not? Okay. So it'll be fun. I think it'll be cute. But yeah. And congratulations on your. Okay. Grandma's attacking me.

He's the cutest teddy bear puppy ever. He was trying to ride on the what's the vacuum thing that you have? Oh, the little like Roomba. The Roomba. He wants to play with the Roomba, which I thought was adorable. But now he's on the bed with us and he's just. And we're on a white bed with red wine and a dog.

Try to be careful. Living life dangerously. But getting back to what I was saying, congratulations on your first live show. Thank you. I know it's something you pushed me to do for a while and it took dear media pushing me and booking it for me to actually do it. So I'm excited to do it. I still think it would be fun for us to do one together. Yeah. And I know you have your podcast now and you're talking about doing some live shows as well.

So if we're going to get into my dating life, I can just quickly say that the person that I was going to co do those joint shows with, I'm probably not going to be using him anymore. Let's let's just let's get into it. I we were just mid Raquel date story and I was like, stop it. Save it. You we gotta get this on the podcast so this is why Sheena feeds me wine because she knows one glass in I'm more convinced yes I love it

okay so Jamie update well I was I was seeing someone from I won't say the band but I'll say my favorite band so you hardcore listeners know who the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah. I was dating someone in that band and he does his own emo night parties, you know, not like the L.A. emo nights, but he does his own.

The knockoff ones. I don't know. I mean, there's there's emo night and then there's knockoff emo night. He's not. Yes, there are. There is. Absolutely. He's not one of the knockoff ones I don't know I mean there's there's emo night and then there's knockoff he's not yes there are there is absolutely he's not one of the knockoff ones his is more like an industry thing where it's like it's for the actual musicians okay hi Graham okay and so he and I were gonna collaborate and we were gonna do one at, when we were young festival. Right. And I still kind of want to do it, but he and I aren't really talking anymore. Well, when is this? Is this the one

in October? Yeah. And I'm the one that secured the venue. So I don't really. So let's do it. I know. Should we? Yeah. I think we should just do it okay yeah and then on top I now know when I'm getting married it was like at the time I'm like I don't know like we were still thinking maybe November maybe as early as October but now it's for sure I mean as soon as I put my deposit down for sure which will be soon end of August have you revealed where Mexico Mexico. I mean, I do, but... That's all I'm saying. You know what? I want to hear the rest of Raquel's story.

Yeah, we got to get into it. And then, you know, if you guys want to hear the dating dilemmas that have been mentally, spiritually, physically troubling me... Oh, my gosh. ...since we've last last talked listen to Jamie all over but yeah that too but let's I want to hear this Raquel story so let's let's fill them in with what we know so she doesn't have to say it and then we'll ask her questions from there so Raquel is single and mingling and there was this guy she told us about who she met, who was quite an

asshole. He called her a D-list celebrity trying to knock her down a peg. And I was like, he obviously read that book, The Game. Yeah. And he's negging you. And I'm like, no, no, no. We know these guys. We know their type of game it's like oh try to knock you down a notch to make yourself look and feel better like no however she gave him a chance so I feel like well no last we heard

you were done with him and now so the last you guys heard because I was filling you guys in at karaoke night yeah that he's like the biggest tool I've ever met. And that I didn't even save his number in my phone. Right. But well, after consideration and him calling me late night twice.

I'm talking on the phone. How late are we talking? Well, the first time was 2 a.m. And you answered the phone. I know who to call when I'm talking on the phone. How late are we talking? Well, the first one was 2 a.m. And you answered the phone. I know who to call when I'm in jail. I wasn't sure what time it was, and I thought I was missing an important call. So I answer.

Wait, you thought you were missing an important call late at night? Yeah, because his phone number wasn't saved in my phone, and it came up as a caller ID from a name that I didn't recognize. as a caller ID from like a name that I didn't recognize. Oh, and it it was a very similar name to the dress designer that I'm working with for my Miss California gowns. And there's a time difference. There's a time difference in another country or something. So I was like, Oh, hello. Like, hello. And then it's this guy on the other line, saying like like what are you doing or i don't even remember i don't recall what he said exactly because i was so tired yeah but i was like okay please stop print calling me i'm going to bed it's late bye yeah then the next night he calls

more like 9 p.m which is a little bit more appropriate I would say. And he's like oh since you're a cougar and all What? I'm sorry. What? He's one year younger than me. Out of the three of us sitting on the bed Raquel's the cougar. What dimension are we

in right now? Oh my god. He said, if you're not, if you're not like already getting ready for bed, you should come meet me out for drinks. And I was like, Oh,

I'm already in bed. Did he call you a grandma too? Yes. He referred to me as a grandma. Just with the compliments, the cougar, the grandma, the D list.

He sounds like a tree. You know what? I think it's working i know right i mean listen up like fellas why do we like the tools i don't know tall hot i don't know i don't know something about it graham you need it you need a gram is on one you need to calm down anyway we end up having a 45 minute conversation on the phone. And he was very interested in my life and getting to know me. Nice. Yeah.

So would you say he won you over? I mean, I think so. And I think his comments, I think he has like a different sense of humor than what I'm normally used to. Like, it's very sarcastic and it's very like nudgy, nudgy. I've dated those type of guys. So I get what you're saying. Yeah. So,

my first impression of him was that he was the biggest tool in the world. But, as I'm getting to know him a little bit better, I think that's just how he, like,

how he makes jokes and stuff. Yeah. I get what you're saying. Still an asshole, but I, yes. Where is he from originally?

I'm trying to keep this very anonymous. You're not saying his name and his Instagram handle. Is he East Coast, West Coast, or Middle America? He's from Ohio. Okay. No comment. I mean, yeah. Anyway.

So that conversation ends. I go to bed and I'm getting my hair done by Barb the next day and she's putting in these long ass extensions for me prepping for Coachella and I'm looking cute as fuck like yeah cute and my friends like are you going out tonight like what are you gonna do are you gonna like waste this look right you're right i should go out tonight and of course this guy was on my mind because we just had a 45 minute conversation uh-huh i was like maybe i should invite him out to karaoke night so text jesse make sure that james isn't going right and tell tell Jesse that I might invite a boy. And he goes, yeah, you totally should.

And I'm like, okay, do you have Fergie? Do you have Fergie? I want to sing Fergie. And he's like, yeah, I have Fergie. So what song? I was in between Glamorous and Fergalicious. Okay. And so you actually sang one in front of the boy. Yes. Which one did you go with? Fergalicious. Fergalicious. Okay. And so you actually sang one in front of the boy.

Yes. Which one did you go with? Fergalicious. Fergalicious definition make them boys go loco. Yes. Yes. I figured that would be more appropriate for the night.

I love this Raquel. I wish I would have seen this performance. I know. It was pretty good. It was, I got, you know. Yeah. It was good.. It was, I got, you know.

Yeah. It was good. Yeah. So like he, he meets up with me and he doesn't have Instagram. So I kind of forgot what his face looked like. I was just like, I was looking out for like a tall man and every guy that came into the bar while I was waiting.

Was tall. I was on edge. I was like, is that him? Is that him? Wait, I swear that's not him. Like I swear I would not give that man my number. And then eventually he calls me saying like, oh, I just pulled up. Like I'm here.

So I walk over and I'm wearing, you know, the last time he saw me, I had really short hair. So I think the long extensions threw him off. Yeah. I was like, hi. Hi, it's me. I remember. I'm the D-list. The D-lister here.

Hi. How do you make it? Where do we stand right now? Are you guys texting? Do you have a plan to see each other again? Are you going to go to Thailand? Did you make out with him? guys so many questions you know we're good we're good i we have we have plans i guess to go to craigs nice okay yeah so there's that guy I just enjoyed like standing next to him at the bar because

having someone taller than you. Yeah. I was wearing the highest heels in my closet and I was still looking vertically up at him. Oh, that's nice. So nice. Yeah. Okay. So that makes up for some shitty behavior. Right. That's candidate numero uno. Now, can we address some of the rumors that have been out there about some fellow Bravo loves? She's giving the record stare right now. She's like, you guys, we were not supposed to talk about. I heard you went on a date with Peter. Is there going to be a second date? No. Where did you eat? How was the dinner? No, we didn't. We didn't eat anything. We just got drinks. Okay. You know? All right. How was his conversation skills? Like, did you have an enjoyable conversation? Yeah, we did. We did. We did.

He made me laugh. I feel like Peter's like main objective is to make me giggle. Yeah. And when I have a genuine laugh, there's this vein in my forehead that pops up. So he literally told me like, this is my main objective to like try to get you laugh. Oh, genuinely so much so that your vein pops out. That's really cute. I'm like, OK.

And she's not perfect, guys. I know. I know. It's there. It's a strong one. Oh, my God. OK. That's actually really cute. Yeah.

So I was giving it my best to not laugh at all of his jokes. But the ones that were funny made me giggly and that's that but I don't know I feel like I don't know I feel like Peter and I I see him more as a friend yeah that makes and he is he is a good friend of all of ours so i get that okay well i know there's some other rumors out there but we can just let those stay what rumors sheena i've just heard some other bravo lab rumors about raquel and like a shaw but oh yeah we can you know say stay tuned is it true true? Is it not? We'll see. She hates us. She's like, I'm never letting you feed me. All right. All right. We're gonna switch gears. Okay, so a little update on the dating life of Raquel Levis. Now, you mentioned that you accepted this late night phone call because you thought it was a dress designer for Miss California.

Now, when you were on the podcast last time, I don't think you knew that you were going to be running yet, right? No, no, because it was so fresh. The breakup was so fresh and I didn't even realize that I wanted to compete again. Like I didn't get the pageant bug until maybe a month after. Yeah. Okay. So do tell what are you doing to prep for this? How did you become Miss Malibu soon to be Miss California, Miss USA, Miss fucking universe. Like you're just going to do it all. Okay. How did this start? I just caught the pageant bug and this is my last year i can compete so because of age or how is that because of age okay when do you age out you age out at 28

so i'm 27 grandma soon so yeah i'm a grandma cougar cougar okay so this is this is the last chance yes i love it and I figured like I'm blessed to be put in a position with the show to be able to share a positive message with people and impact people in a positive way and no matter what whether I win the pageant or not all I know that I have that but with the pageant and with the title of Miss California, I feel like it would just give me more of a microphone and an opportunity to express, you know, how I feel on certain situations and try to inspire young women to know their worth and have positive relationships in their lives with friends,

with the people that they surround themselves with. So what are you doing to prep for this? I am doing Toastmasters every Monday. Good for you. To work on my public speaking. Raquel, that's amazing. I'm working with Nia Sanchez, who's a former Miss USA. Oh, I met her. We're doing some pageant prep, which is really exciting. I love that. And fun. It's

cool because I feel like when you're preparing for a pageant, it's a lot of inside perspective and reflecting on your life and you know like Nia's encouraging me to find my mantra and to like write it down and post it somewhere where I see it every single day is that what's on the door right behind you no okay that's just my vision board which I need to change the party on that. That's the only thing I see from here is party. I know. I need to change. I need to, maybe I'll put my mantra on that vision board.

Yeah. I think that'd be nice. Have you decided on it yet? No. Okay. So I was just. Do you remember I sent you a text a couple nights ago and I asked you a question. You said, let me think about that.

Yeah. Have you thought about it? And maybe we can do. Can you tell us what the question was? No, absolutely. So I recently just put out a podcast episode on body confidence. And I've been getting a ton on Jamie Oliver, by the way. If you guys don't know, I have a podcast.

Yeah. And this was like when I listened back to this particular episode, I emo Jamie is going to come out. But I actually had tears in my eyes and I ended the episode with that song Unpretty by TLC. And I can't tell you how many people, women and girls said I just had a good cry. And thank you so much. And it's because in the current events and with Instagram and everything, and everyone is comparing themselves to all of these perfect looking people online. A lot of it isn't even real. And, you know, we just find ourselves completely bombarded with images of like people we can't really keep up with and with perfection.

And I think it's just making a lot of people feel really bad about themselves. And I think it's important for everyone to know that no one's life is perfect. And even someone who like a beauty queen is someone like you that we might look at and be like, she's perfect. Her life must be perfect. And I asked you a question and it was like, what can you tell people who are struggling with this? And I know that there must be something that you're insecure about as well. And you suffer with this as well. And I think it makes people, she's sorry, she's doing a little behind the scenes. I think it would open up people's eyes to realize like maybe the grass isn't always greener

and nobody's life is perfect. So I don't know if you had a chance to think about this question, but are there things that you've been insecure about? And if so, how have you dealt with it? And are you on the other side of it or are you still working through it or where are you at with that? Yeah. So my biggest insecurity growing up as a kid was my height because I was the tallest girl in my grade, actually the tallest person in my grade, towering over all the other guys, all the other girls. And they would call me daddy long legs, which I hated. Feel like I've been able to overcome that.

And now my height is my favorite thing about me. I've been able to overcome that. And now my height is my favorite thing about me. I think it helps to change your perspective on what you hate about yourself the most and change it into what do you like? What is that thing about you that is actually functionable and is helping you like survive. Like for example, and I hate talking about it because I'm so insecure about it, but my nose, it didn't come out the way that I would like it, would have liked it to. And after rhinoplasty and after rhinoplasty, and it's something I had to really, really heal from and realize that like a perfect face isn't everything. There's so much more to somebody than just appearance.

And I can breathe better after my rhinoplasty. So I'm grateful for that. My lips aren't chapped all the time because I was breathing through my mouth consistently. Did you have a deviated septum? Yeah. So just changing your perspective on the things that you're insecure about. Reframing. Reframing. Yes. There's a quote that I love. It goes something along the lines of a rose is beautiful and the sunset is beautiful, but they're nothing alike. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. I love that. That really helps change my perspective of the beauty standards. Totally. That we have. And comparing.

And yeah, we don't. It's not's not a competition you know and there's beauty in everyone and there's beauty in everything and we may not look like the next person but we can find our own special beauty as well and not to be cliche but I think so much of it comes from feeling confident and feeling good about yourself. And that kind of like radiates out. Have you learned anything recently to build self-confidence or anything that you can share? Any tips? Because you're going to be going, you know, on stage, you're going to be speaking in front of people. Confidence is everything. A word of advice that I got from my ballroom dance instructor, like back in the day, she said, fake it till you make it.

And I have like, you just try your best and you show up and you, it's not going to be perfect, but as long as you're working on it, you're, you're better than you were yesterday. Yeah. And I think giving ourselves permission to not have to were yesterday. Yeah. And I think giving ourselves permission to not have to be perfect and to flat out say, this isn't going to be perfect and that's okay.

And that's what makes us human. It's progress, not perfection. We're trying to achieve progress. Yeah, totally. Did you start reading that book by Gabby Bernstein that we all recommended to you? Super Attractor? I started reading it.

I need to get back to it. I was listening to the audio book and I haven't finished it. But I remember there was a chapter. I think it was maybe like chapter four. It was in the very beginning of the book where she talks about like comparing yourself to others and just that perspective of it. I'm like, I've been so guilty of that. Just, you know, with the girls on the show and you know, who has more followers or who gets more opportunities or who gets this brand deal. And it's just like, it's so hard

to not compare yourself, but like, we can't do that. Cause like, it's not a competition. Obviously you've learned a lot from that book. Yeah. But what else? Because you're changing. You're doing a lot of things differently in the past few years. And I've I've witnessed an evolution from you. Well, thank you. I mean, I feel like we've gone through an evolution of our friendship. And I think having open communication, which is hard at times because for me, sometimes it's just easier to say, fuck it, walk away and we don't have to be friends anymore. But when you actually care about a friendship as much as I care about you, when we've gone through things, it's like, no, I'm not just going to walk away from this. Like we need to get to the root of what is the issue? How can we make it better? And how can we move forward? And I feel like it's now been two times in our friendship that we've had something like that. But I feel

personally, I hope you feel the same way that after the open communication we've had, it gets us to a better place and a better understanding of where one another was coming from. Always, always. And since we're somewhat tiptoeing around the elephant in the room, you guys might be wondering where I've been. Yeah. Where has Jamie been? Well, she's been doing her podcast, Jamie, all over. So congrats on that. And, you know, what you were just saying is very true, but it also involves a third party and we can't say it doesn't. Yeah. I think 80% of what happened between me and you involved a third party. And I am not so, I'm not a fan of talking about something

if the other person that's involved is not here. Well, we can do a podcast with the three of us and talk about it. I think that's what I'm getting at is that although I understand that, I think that your listeners are owed an explanation. And I have been wanting to express everything and I have not. And I would love to get it all out, but I would love to do it in a very respectful and fair way. And since there is a third person involved, if that person would like to be present, I think that might be the best way to do it. I mean, we talked about it. So I think, yeah, stay tuned. That'll, that'll come. Yeah. And, and I, I'm so sorry. I don't want to tease

you guys with something. No, but, you know, keep listening. What's that? But keep listening. Yeah, keep listening. But yeah, because if we did it any other way, I'd have to not say this person's name. I don't want to put words in someone else's mouth. You know, it would just be a difficult way to explain it without the person here. I agree.

Okay. So we'll get to that, but not today. But another thing I do want to talk about today is therapy. Something that I know both of you do that I still haven't started, but there is this awesome thing called Talkspace. If you guys want to get some therapy. You know, it's like spring cleaning time. I mean, I don't know if you guys go for like a full deep clean of the whole house, but for me, it's not just about cleaning the space of where I live. It's also about clearing out my mental space because there's honestly something rejuvenating about getting down to what's essential and starting fresh. So like that goes with your mind, you know, over the years, especially when you do a reality show and then you watch it back time and time again, thoughts and emotions

can build up. So that's why it's important to talk to someone who is trained to help you declutter your mental space because trust me, it builds up. So I know that you guys have been hearing me talk about therapy for a while now and how I want to do it and I haven't done it. therapy for a while now and how I want to do it and I haven't done it. I just recently learned about Talkspace and how easy they make it to get started. So if you're feeling overwhelmed, you know, it's normal to put off getting help. But if you think about the way it's going to make you feel after, like, why would you wait? So there's these great resources like talk space that make it easy to get clarity and support from a licensed therapist anytime you need so you guys literally no matter where you are in your mental health journey talking to a therapist who's trained to help can

make a huge difference I know this because I've done it in the past. I want to start doing it again because I know you just feel this weight lifted off you when you talk about everything that's bothering you. And then after you're just like, ah, so Talkspace has a 24 seven text, audio and video messaging. They let you talk to a licensed therapist without needing an appointment, which is great for schedules like mine. And especially when you have a baby and you know, you have call times that you don't know what they are until the night before. So things like this work great with busy schedules because also you should never rely on Dr. Google. So if thoughts and emotions are piling up, a fresh perspective can help you feel better. Match with your dedicated therapist

today at Talkspace.com and use promo code Shay during sign up to get $100 off your first month. That's $100 off at Talkspace.com promo code Shay. So yeah, I think we could all use therapy. And I have talked about this on my podcast before and I have yet to start because I am on a wait list for this therapist and I just like I I know that it's gonna work out and so I'm like refusing to start with a different therapist before but I'm like when there are awesome things like talk space I'm like I think I just need to do it and not wait on this wait list anymore I don't know that's the thing like I think you should just do it I mean god how many therapists have I had I switch all the time yeah but that's what like i know raquel like we were talking about like with

your therapist and then when she like didn't show up a couple times and it's like she ghosted me on the day of the engagement party episode yeah and so not cool are you still working with the same therapist or no okay so then you have to start over. So that's what I like am trying to avoid doing. You have to start over and it's like back to square one. And I update her every single week on what's happening in my life. So I feel like she has a really good understanding of my life as it is today, which helps, but it takes such a process to get to that point yeah it's a little it's a process to find the right therapist for you too that's true that's that's the only reason i've been through quite a few is because they'll help me to a point and they will my problems just might be a little bit more complex but it it has in the past it would get to a point where they would be like i can't help

you any further really i need to refer you to this specialist are you 22 from soul what have you seen soul no you haven't seen soul i haven't i tried to watch it and i couldn't get through it is she 22 yeah she's 22 i don't know what you guys are talking about but okay we can watch it after this i tried you know honestly i tried to watch it, but okay. We can watch it after this. I tried, you know, honestly, I tried to watch it once and I couldn't get through it. It was so boring, but I don't know. That's our favorite. It's literally our favorite. Yeah. I'll try it again. Although you and I were just discussing how our tastes are so different. It's insane. Which I think is like, that's why we're good podcasting together. Yeah, that is true.

That's why we're good podcasting together. Yeah, that is true. I don't agree with everything you say. No, same. I mean, sometimes I have to mute you on Instagram because I'm like, I can't see any more animals suffering. I want to eat my filet mignon in peace, damn it. Oh my gosh. I've been threatened to be muted several times.

Yeah, I'm like, Jamie, I can't. But it's OK. Sometimes I just tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Or you just swipe and then you go to the next one. Yeah. Yeah. But I love you. So I love you, too.

So about therapy, though. Yeah. When you whenever you do start, what are some things that you you think? Because part of therapy is self-awareness. So what are some of the things that you really think because part of therapy is self-awareness so what are some of the things that you really want to focus on I really want like I think Brock and I have a great relationship and I think we have great communication but we are butting heads when it comes to parenting and like sleep training and the things she eats and I know what my triggers are I know I really want someone who

specializes in EMDR I think what is that it's a certain type of therapy I I don't know enough about it to speak on it like definitively but from the research I did and Monica my acupuncturist she does this type of therapy she thought that it would be very beneficial for me. I know one of my triggers is obviously the miscarriage. I think that some of the fears I have were not purposely, but just instilled on me from my mother. And my mom is just always so cautious and so afraid of every little thing and cuts up Summer's food in the itty bittiest little pieces. And I'm like, mom, I don't want to worry about her choking on every single bite of food. Like

she needs to learn how to chew. She needs to learn how to swallow. The more we, she has a baby, but the more we baby her with food, the higher of a chance she has of choking when she's older. Like this was this article I was reading on my what to expect app. And it was saying that they need to learn their gag reflex at a young age. And the longer you delay that, the better chance they have of choking as a toddler. And I was like, OK, well, I don't want that. So I need her like just little things like that. But I don't know if it was just the miscarriage and already experiencing that loss that I'm so afraid of anything happening to her. I think that just comes with being a parent. But even just with like her sleep training right now, like Brock and I just got into it because he's like trying like half Ferber, half cried out. It's just like it's

it's it's kind of consistent, but then it's not consistent. And last night, it was like eight, nine minutes or whatever. She was crying and I thought he was in the room with her. And he was just like standing right there, but she couldn't see him. And he was just trying to let her figure out how to soothe herself. And I just finally walked in the room and I'm like, dude, she is noticeably upset. I just watched her throw her binky out of the crib onto the ground. She's not going to soothe herself when she doesn't even have her binky. She's just standing there.

She needs someone. And I think personally for emotional development, it's important for her to not feel abandoned and for her to feel like my parents are there when I need them. But then Mr. Brock with the fucking facts sends me this article talking about different types of development and how if we are just babying her and helping her to sleep and holding her every night, that that could long term affect her development because she's not going to be independent. It's just this whole thing.

So I understand that he is doing what's best for her. I want to do what's best for her. But we're just like we're butting heads and it's affecting our relationship. It's affecting our sleep, which affects our mood. And that's like one of the main things. That's why like I'm very specific when it comes to finding a therapist. I want someone who is a mother and I would like someone who specializes in EMDR, which I know is harder to find, especially the combination. And by the way, it is eye movement, desensitization and reprocessing. Yeah. I know it's something with the eyes, but I don't know exactly. I actually had, I'm looking this up right now and it's, I'm recalling a memory about this. So I had a psychiatrist on Jamie Oliver and he mentioned this and he was very excited about this, this type of therapy and he really supports it. So I'm glad you're looking into that. But apparently like

you are going to recall a person like a distressing experience and they're going to follow your eye movement when that happens. And I don't know what they do, but somehow I guess they can fix these memories. I don't want to say fix, but maybe reframe it or, you know, and have you experience it in a different way. So that's really awesome that you're going to be doing that. Yeah. So I think I'm going to I think my time limit of being on the wait list for this therapist was May. We're coming up to May. So I'm like, I'm going to give it a few more weeks. And if it doesn't work out, then I know there are, you know, awesome sources like Talkspace and places that I could find another therapist. But I was just really trying to hold out for Dr.

Cassidy. So just manifesting that again. Well, either way, I'm proud of you. Yeah. Thanks. But we said like, no matter what, like before we move back into like this apartment in LA, we are getting a therapist because I can only imagine like we're at our nice beach house right now. We have two stories. We've got space. We've got the entire fucking beach. When we move back into this apartment. Oh, let me tell you, I think you just need to get a therapist anyway, because my therapist knows everybody on the cast. Like I talk about everything and I'm like just just you wait like this summer it's gonna be crazy right at least she knows everything leading up to yeah the summer and all the drama that's gonna go down because when we're all put together in a room totally it like there's no preventing it like

yeah it's gonna it's to go down. Yeah. And that's like, obviously we don't know what or when we never know until anything's announced what's going on, but we're just being positive and assuming there's a season 10 and Brock and I are like, we need to get a therapist before season 10. Jamie,

I wanted to ask you because you've, you said that you've seen a lot of therapists and you've gone through them. Yeah. To sort out like which one is helping you the best or which one is most beneficial for you. What do you look for in a therapist? Because I want them to be smarter than me. And a lot of times I can kind of like. OK, this sounds really bad, but I feel like.

No, but you're really smart. I feel like I can somewhat run mental gymnastics on them. And it's like I can sense if they're out of their league as far as like what I'm discussing. So the kind of things that I'm discussing in therapy obviously is not what everyone, like we all have our own separate issues. So with me, I just want to find someone who kind of specializes in what I've been through and who can identify actually like what do I need to work on? What are the best ways to take me through that?

And a lot of times I'll feel like it's kind of like this generic therapy that they're giving me. And if I'm feeling that I'll give them a couple of sessions and we, we both kind of come to the understanding that they're not qualified to treat me just because for me, I feel like it needs to go a bit deeper because I've done so much work on myself as well. So I'm kind of beyond the, I don't know if there's any sort of superficial form of therapy, but whatever the first initial layer of that would be, I'm kind of beyond that. And I need someone who can specialize in trauma, someone who under, I mean, okay, I'll admit it. Like the things that I need to work on,

I was in an abusive relationship. You guys know this physically, emotionally. So there's that. And then there's like the whole idea of becoming a single mom when my child was seven months old and kicking someone out because they cheated on me and finding this out when you have a newborn, there's that, you know, trust issues, you know? And then on top of it, it's like the trauma of the way that my dad died. We don't need to go into every single thing because I don't want to bring this down. But like, I just have very, I guess, specialized things that have, I don't know if specialized is the word, but like specific things that have happened that I need help getting through. And I've, like I said, I've done a lot of work

on my own with that, like through meditation and reading books and learning and whatever I can possibly do for myself, I've done it. So what I need from a therapist is someone who can take me further than I could take myself basically. It makes sense. Yeah. And I feel like after a couple sessions, you can kind of figure that out yourself. Are, are they taking you, you know, further? Are they, you know, walking you down the right path that you need to heal these specific things. And unfortunately for me, my last experience with therapy, I was, cause it was through the pandemic. So I was doing it over the phone and it was like through my health insurance, which I don't have anymore because I'm unemployed as of last week. Yay. That's a good thing. But it was through my insurance and it

was through Kaiser. And so we would do a phone session every week. And it got to the point where she said, I actually need to refer you up to someone who specializes in trauma. And basically the help that she gave me up until that point was very similar to like me talking to a friend. It wasn't like anything that I didn't already know, you know? And, and what was happening was I was kind of telling her how to give me the therapy.

It was, you know, it was just, yeah, that doesn't help. It didn't, it didn't. The only way that it,

the talking always helps no matter what, talking about a problem, talking about something you're upset about. It helps just to get that emotional. Yeah. But you could do that with a friend for free. You can absolutely do it with a friend for free. So I just needed something more.

And so they said they were going to refer me to someone who specialized in trauma. And they never called me. I never got the phone call. So sorry, Kaiser, if I'm shitting on you right now, but they never called me, but I don't have that insurance anymore. So we'll be moving on and we'll figure out the next step for me as far as therapy, but I'm a big

advocate of it, but I think it's important also for people to know it's not like a one size fits all. And you may go through several therapists before you find the one that can actually help you, but I'm not giving up. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I had a therapist a few years ago and very nice woman. But I kind of felt the same way. Like I felt like I just talked and she listened and then my session was over. I'm like, cool. So I'm going to move to Vegas and then never do therapy with you again. And then I've just never gotten another therapist.

And I feel like now is the time and Brock like really wants this. And it doesn't matter how good a relationship is. It always needs work. Those relationships are work. So stay tuned to my therapy journey. Yeah. Yeah. to my therapy journey. Yeah. Yeah. So switching gears again, you ladies heard of Dipsy? Well, whether it's, you know, a warm cup of coffee, basking in warm sunlight or listening to a sexy story, pleasure is all around us. With Dipsy, your sanctuary is waiting. Escape into a world where pleasure is your only priority. So Dipsy is an app full of hundreds of short, sexy audio stories designed for women by women. They bring scenarios to life with immersive soundscapes and characters. No matter who you're into or what turns you on, trust me, Dipsy has something for everyone. For me, for you, Jamie, for you, Raquel. Yes, they have stories

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Your wine glass is full. I just want to know if you ever used the present I gave you. We don't have to say what the present was. Yes. Oh! You never gave me presents like that. I think you already have your own. I actually used it and then I realized that it was great

but it wasn't enough so I actually went online and ordered two. Got a better one. Oh, see? I got two. I think Brock Got a better one. Yeah. Oh, see. I got two. To experiment with. I think Brock has one of those like massage guns. Super powered. Like a Theragun?

Yeah. My God. Jesus, Jamie. Simulating. I mean, if her gift wasn't powerful enough. Yeah. Well, it was a first time. I was just kind of

easing her into it. You know, I said, hey, try this. You know? How is it living with Sheena and Brock? We're not living together. I mean, we're never here.

That's literally, you must all be together. This is such a rare occasion for Sheena to be in LA. Like, at most, maybe twice a month, I'm here. And she's only here for a night. She doesn't even spend the night here. Like, I don't know what you do.

Yeah, a lot of the time I stay at my parents' house because we have summer. And Graham is not like super fan of babies. We're trying to make them best friends, but they're not there yet. And usually when I'm here it's for something for work or an event it's late my mom would rather have summer at her house

than sit here at the apartment and watch her so a lot of the time I'm like well I don't want to spend the night away from her so I just stay at my mom's house so for us all to like actually be here it's maybe once a month yeah this is Raquel's place right now I'm just spending the night So for us all to like actually be here, it's maybe once a month. Oh. Yeah.

This is Raquel's place right now. I'm just spending the night. But it's fun when we're here because I'm like, I haven't had a roommate in so long. That's the thing. It's like you refer to her as your roommate. Yeah. So I assume you guys spent time together. Yeah.

It's just, yeah, it's a special occasion thing. Yeah. And it's fun. It's fun to have sleepover. Totally it's fun to have a sleepover. Totally. So what are you doing when they're not here? Are you going out? What's a day in the life of Raquel in Hollywood?

Well, lately, I can give you a day in my life. So I've been working with this new trainer named Rob. He's excellent. And he's a sponsor for Miss California USA. So he's getting my booty perked up. Hell yeah. All the toning necessary to win. And so I'll do like a workout and then I don't know. It depends on the day. It depends on And then I don't know. It depends on the day. It depends on what I'm doing, what I need to do.

What are you eating? I mean, we saw what she had for dinner. It was a very single girl dinner and I loved everything about it. I was just telling Raquel literally yesterday, Brock and I are at the grocery store and the line was so long. It was down the frozen food aisle. And I looked over at the lean cuisines and I was like, memories and he's like what and I go no it's like my single girl dinner when I lived in Marina like a few nights a week was a lean cuisine meal and I kind of like

low-key missed those sometimes he's like I'm making you tilapia and you like miss your fucking lean cuisines I don't know they. They were just, they were easy. There was a lot of options. They're like low in calories. And tonight I'm like pouring us wine and Raquel opens the freezer and pulls out a fucking lean cuisine. And Sheena's like, oh, memories. I know.

I was like, wait, the Alfredo with broccoli. I remember that one. It's so good. Well, here's the thing. I'm not an excellent chef. So it's, and when I'm hungry I'm hungry

like I need to eat now so I'm very impatient and it's convenient to have meals already made for you and you just stick them in the microwave and heat it up the first time I had to get some breast milk out of the back of the freezer I was like Jesus for hell

how much food do you have There's no room for my milk. I took half the milk back to San Diego. Remember your Marina Del Rey refrigerator? Yeah. It was all beverages. And then the freezer was all lean cuisines. Yeah. Single girl refrigerator. Yeah. I usually also had Lunchables and string cheese though. Absolutely. Yeah. In the bottom drawer I always had pizza Lunchables. You had pizza Lunchables. Yes. Those are the best Lunchables. Did you always have Capri Sun too? Always. Yeah. Always

Capri Sun but always the roaring water ones because they're lower in sugar. I didn't know which ones to get because I bought some Capri Sun. Well the last time that Brock and Sheena were here. Oh, my God. It was so sad.

My fridge was. It looks like it's died. Yeah. It was empty. There's nothing in there. And Brock goes like. He's like, where are the drinks? Like, what do you have to drink?

And I was like, literally, all I drink is Brita water. So I'll go to the store and I'll get some things. I bought like every drink. I bought a variety. There's Capri Sun. There's apple juice. There's milk. There's Gatorade.

There's coconut water. Yeah. I don't drink anything other than water either. I mean, yeah. I mean, I like sparkling water. I love sparkling water. That I mean, yeah. I mean, she does a beverage person. I like sparkling water.

I love sparkling water. That's the one thing. I always have water and sparkling water. And then Brock made me stop buying the Capri Suns because then he was drinking them all the time.

But I'm like, they're the low sugar ones. But so I don't have those in my fridge as much anymore because he can't help himself. Yeah. Like I have crazy self-control. He does not.

Like our neighbors will bring us over a pie for dinner and we'll try to send it back with them. They're like, no, no, no. We got that for you. And he's like, take it. I can't not eat it. And I'm like, honey, just don't eat it. Like go give it to a homeless person.

Early on in your relationship, he tried to blame you for it. And I forget we were in Arizona with Mikey P mikey p remember that lake havasu yeah and you wait i think all four of us were sharing a room or something we were how the hell okay so we're all together in a room and oh wait no no i'm wrong i'm wrong i think i slept with courtney oh yeah no mikey stayed with you i stayed with okay justice yeah but i was in your room late night or whatever. We were hanging out. And somehow Brock procured himself an ice cream sundae.

Remember this. Yes. And I walk in and it was like midnight. And he's laying in bed. And we're watching like forensic files. And he's chomping down on this ice cream cone. I'm like, where did you get that? What are you doing?

We just cut back from this huge Italian dinner. And we, I think we had dessert there and somehow in his logic, he blamed you for it. It was my fault. What, what was, how did, how did he spin that? That it was your fault. I wish I remember his logic. I don't remember, but it was, he was like, you did this. And I'm like, how, how did I do this? Like, maybe it was like they only took cash and he asked me if I had cash and I had cash. So it was like my fault. Oh, I think I asked him to go downstairs and get me something from the like little

like a gift shop, whatever. Yeah. And then he saw the ice cream and he's like, well, this is your fault because I went down to get you like a water and I had to get this ice cream. And I was like, just say no to the ice cream. I guess you can't. You can't.

Yeah. So what do you want to talk about? Well, I think we save it for the next episode. The reason I said that is because my my brother was telling me that a new guy came into work and he had to like show this guy around and they were in the elevator. And awkwardly, the guy turns and he looks at my brother. He's like, so what should we talk about? Like, what would you do if like someone you just met said that to you?

In the elevator? In the elevator. So awkward. You're just trapped in this small space with them. I hate awkward elevator encounters. Oh my God. right you're just trapped in this small space with a awkward elevator and like it's the worst when the elevator feels like you're in there for 20 minutes you're just like when is this gonna end i know i followed a really hot girl into your building so i didn't have to call you you're like

oh you're here i'm like yeah i followed a girl and super hot and we're in the elevator and she smelled delicious and i'm like what are you wearing? And I wrote it down. So all you guys, okay. What is it? It's, it's called Idol by Lancome. You're welcome because it's delicious and I'm going to go out and buy it. I'm going to buy it. This comes out Friday. I'm getting it. So it's not going to be sold out because I have, I've shot myself in the foot before with other things that I have recommended. Oh, because my lip liner. You and I did an episode. What? Okay, after you say this, this is reminding me of something very crazy.

I used to buy this cheap ass lip liner on Amazon by a brand called Jordana. It was referred to me by Carly from New Jersey. Bible. Yes. Her favorite. Yeah. The never heard of this makeup brand, but they make this lip liner. So the brand is Jordana.

The color is tawny. I bought it on Amazon. I used to buy a 10 pack maybe for $30. So that means they were $3 each. I now had to pay $15 for one. Oh, after that episode that we did. Let me tell you. Let me actually

tell you the real the real scarcity of this eyeliner that is the best eyeliner for underneath your eyes because it reflects new color. It's not nude. It's a brown. It's really like very iridescent brown color? It's not nude. It's a brown. It's a really like very iridescent brown color.

It's called Underground by Urban Decay. Sephora stopped carrying it. Like it's the only eyeliner that is discontinued by Urban Decay. Of course. And I'm like, this is the only eyeliner that looks good underneath my eyes because it's, it's not too dark. It's, it's like the perfect liner.

I go on eBay and guess how much they're selling this liner for? $35. More. What? More. Stop it. I paid 65 dollars for this eyeliner because i'm like i need this eyeliner for the competition and it'll last me for a while yeah this is like a you should try nordstrom rack they sell all the urban decay stuff that's really continued and i need to try that

then next time i'm at nordstrom rack i'll check what's the name of it again? Underground? Underground. I'll see if they have it there. Yeah. I found a lipstick that was discontinued. I'm on a mission to find a dupe for this. Wow. I'm sure there is one. There must be. Well if you guys know any recommendations DM Raquel. Well this has been fun. It has been really fun. A fun, unexpected chat. I love this. Raquel, just everything about the woman you are becoming. Like you already were just fucking awesome, as we all know. But I've just seen so much growth in you in the past year, in the past few months.

And I'm just I'm so proud of everything you are doing and I can't wait to see you become Miss California stop you're making me blush I am really proud of myself for singing for delicious though like my performance was spot on I'm bummed I didn't see it I practiced while I was getting. Like I looked at the lyrics and I was like, OK, I've got to get this rap part perfect. And it was great. Oh, I love it. I'm actually really proud of you. And you guys can cut this if you don't want me saying this, but we had to give people some tea. And I love the fact that Sheena, we walk into the apartment and fact that Sheena, we walk into the apartment,

and Sheena's like, Raquel, I need to ask you a question. I just want to check in with you, and, you know, your ex is on a trip with someone else. Are you okay? And my favorite thing that I have heard all night, Raquel goes, I don't give a fuck what he's doing. I don't want to be on that vacation. I just had to check in, you know, I, I'm yeah, I just, it makes my heart so happy that you are so beyond that. I'm just so happy and so proud of you. If it wasn't for my

hairstylist telling me that he went on a vacation with this girl. Well, then you would have known from Sheena. To Jamaica. Like, I had no idea because I don't follow him and I'm not checking up on him. And it's way better that way. That's how it should be. Yeah. So you do you, boo.

Hell yeah. Love it. Do you, boo. Love it. Sheena Shea. Shea FK. Thanks for listening to Shenan it. Sheena Shea. Shea FK. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And then I got my girls with me. With the boys at the table getting tipsy. Miss me, kiss me one more time.

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