Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Eyes Up Here with Lindsey Pelas

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

Scheana and Jamie are joined in studio by model, influencer, podcaster and Sugar Taco investor, Lindsey Pelas. They discuss her time on MTV’s “The Hills”, her move from Louisiana to Los Angeles, dating rules, vision boards and how Dan Bilzerian helped grow her massive social media following. Plus she answers the burning question, “is she single?” Tune in to get all the details! Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA. Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Action Park Media From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, everyone? Welcome back to Shenanigans. We are back in studio. Haven't been here since last year right jamie it's been a while and everything has changed yeah we now have a new dope setup that if you didn't see it on my instagram you'll see it on my vlog where the desks are all positioned very socially distanced i feel safe here i started to get a little paranoid again over the last month, and I'm like, I'm not seeing anyone unless they've been tested. I'm not going in the studio. And then

I saw on Nima's Instagram the new setup. I was like, oh, wait, I can go back in studio now. So we have our first guest in studio of 2021. She is drop dead gorgeous. I've never felt so frumpy in this studio. Miss Lindsay Pelas. Hi. Thank you for having me. I'm so good. Did I say your last name right? You did. Pelas. I echo in these too. I told you. Yes. We don't like the headphones over here. She knows. I love the headphones. She loves it, but I can't wear them. And yes. I think too, because like when I'm hosting the show I feel like I don't know I feel more official maybe you look very official thanks yeah you look great no one else has to wear teacher and I'm over here in my little desk I'm the student over here yeah I like this though I

like this setup it's good everyone's got some good lights and a good background behind them I'm happy about the new camera setup because I was telling Naro, our producer, the last time we had the cameras in here, they were three cameras, but on tripods. Oh, yeah. And the way that they were set up was you had a great angle. It was head on, but all of my angles were profiles. See, I disagree. I thought yours looked great. I hated it.

And when you liked the zoom angle of the Murr episode better. Because it was face on. It wasn't better. It was. I asked five people's opinion and they all disagreed. You just probably don't like my face then because no i love your face seeing the side view i prefer seeing the side view of my own face you do have a good profile thank you only on one side though so um gorgeous lindsey sitting here okay, how did you two get introduced? I want to talk about the things that y'all have in common. And then we have so many fun questions.

Lindsay and I are just meeting for the first time in person today. I know. I feel like we've met, though. We feel like we've known each other. I feel like I know you so much. But we are business partners in Sugar Taco, which is the plant-based Mexican restaurant here in L.A. And we're opening a second location. Hell yeah.

Very soon. So I'm actually genuinely excited to try it, especially after you posted those churro donuts the other day. Oh, my God. They're so good. And I'm like, of course. I have my glucose test today. And you're like, oh, we could get them. And I was like, no, no, no.

No sugar before this test. But I'm so excited to come to the friends and family soft opening yeah are you going I'm going are you going the first night or the second night I think the second night no we're going the first one well maybe I'll go the first one I just don't know yeah but I'm excited I haven't been inside and seen it the the girls the other investors are like great at painting oh my god and art and I'm not so I'm not either yeah I'm like I'll'm not either. Yeah. I'm like,

I'll post about this shit. You guys do what you're good at. Yep. I've stopped there a couple times and it's so crazy. Like I'll see Tina in the back lot like spray painting

and sanding down chairs and hammering shit. And I'm just like, I felt so like unneeded. Yeah. I'm like, I'll hire a task rabbit but I'm not the best at painting.

But I did do the lease for the place. So I did, you know. Oh, sick. I helped out a little bit. Well, thank you so much. Well, it's so nice to meet you. I also listen to you guys' show.

That's so cool. Thank you. Yeah, on Fridays. It's very lighthearted and warm, and that's what I like. I feel like I have a really good bullshit detector. So when I listen to a lot of other people, I'm like, oh, you're trying so hard. Like, oh, this is so pretentious. I don't feel that way when I listen to the lot of other people, I'm like, oh, you're trying so hard. Like, oh, this is so pretentious. I don't feel that way when I listen to the show.

Oh, good. And I think Jamie has added such a good element to the show because, I mean, it was just me for a while by myself. And as much as I love interviewing other people, sometimes I also like to be interviewed. Sometimes I like to just talk shit with a girlfriend and just have a fun episode. Like last week we did my old Hollywood ho days. I love that. Yeah, it was a fun episode. I was like, wow, I haven't talked about this stuff in a long time.

It was fun. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, my God, did I say too much about sneaking out of my house when I was 14 years old and going into New York City? Like, are people going to think I'm a crazy person? But that's okay. Yeah, it's totally fine. I did that with Bourbon Street. Did you?

Yeah, I'm from Louisiana. Okay. Which is way more dirty's okay. Yeah, it's totally fine. I did that with Bourbon Street. Did you? Yeah, I'm from Louisiana. Which is way more dirty. Gotcha. Yeah. Because everyone's probably just wasted all the time. They're so wasted. It's very humid. There's a lot of sweat.

There's sweat, Mardi Gras beads. How old were you when you were doing that? I was sneaking out definitely at 16 or so. As soon as I got a license, that's when the lying began. And I began lying about my whereabouts. But I would be on Bourbon Street. And thank God I lived. Nothing crazy happened.

Yeah. I know. I don't know how I'm still alive. But thankfully, we're all still here. I know. I'm like, I didn't really do anything that crazy. I mean, nothing before 18. Like, nothing in high school.

I was a pretty good girl. I was always a sober driver. Aw. I mean, nothing before 18, like nothing in high school. I was a pretty good girl. I was always a sober driver. Oh, I know. But that all went to shit when I moved out to Hollywood. I was like, I could walk to the club. Yeah. So okay, how long have you been in LA now? Like seven years? Six years. Okay. Ish, I think. Yeah, I moved here when I was 23. I'm 29 now. So yeah, that's six. Love it. It's been fun. So what does your family think? I moved here when I was 23. I'm 29 now. So yeah, that's six. Love it. It's been fun. So what does your family think? I know you come from a big family.

What do they think of your Hollywood life? You know, at first they thought I was a moron. I think everyone thought that. They're like, there's no way you're going to move to California and like model and that's going to work for you. They're like, watch me. Yeah. I'm like, you know what?

You forget that I'm insane and I don't care. So like that kind of, I have this kind of drive where I really don't care what anyone thinks. And so, yeah, I moved here. And the first time I got paparazzi-ed I think was when my mom was like, whoa, she's not an idiot. Like she knows what she's doing. She's figured this out. And I remember it was like the fountain blue in Miami. She posted it all over Facebook.

And I was like – I love that place. Yeah, and I was like you weren't even there when I was like moving here at 23. You were not down. So, you know. But now they're down there. They don't care. They're happy. I can pay my bills. So for the listeners who don't know who you are, I mean, they're probably living under a rock if they don't, but can we give them a little backstory? Hell yeah. Okay. So I moved, um, my name's Lindsay. Hi. I'm from'm from Louisiana, and I moved to L.A. at 23 after I graduated from LSU. And I always wanted to be a model, whatever that entailed, but I was only 5'3". And I ended up moving here, and I actually modeled with Playboy, and I ended up having a massive social media following.

Oh, I'm forgetting one part. I ended up dating Dan Bilzerian at 23. Oh, that little part. I forget one part. I ended up like dating Dan Bilzerian. Oh, that little part. I actually moved here at the time with maybe like a quarter of a million followers, which was a ton. Wow. Back then. Yeah, a ton. That's a ton. Yeah.

And Dan was like, you know what? I'm going to make you internet famous. And I was like, okay, whatever you mean. And I had a million followers in like a month. And so, but from then on, yeah. So from then on, I've been, you know, consistent modeling and I do appearances and I have a podcast and I've been on a few shows and I just kind of do the Hollywood thing and it's been going really well. Yeah. I love that. You also have calendars. I do.

Yeah. I sell, I do these calendars that we sell internationally and I produce the whole thing. I do. Yeah, I sell I do these calendars that we sell internationally and I produce the whole thing. So I feel like Instagram modeling and all that stuff gets a bad rap, but you do so many jobs in one. Yeah, I'm negotiating deals and I'm put work into I mean, if it wasn't for Instagram, I wouldn't have survived 2020. Yeah, because my show wasn't filming. And ads all dropped out of podcasts. So it was like, okay, I'm doing this for fun. I started doing YouTube, which also is a job that pays. For sure. But it's like, I don't think people realize how much goes into it. And then also what comes with that territory. Yeah, I totally agree. It's like, and that's why I get so picky and pissy about like algorithms and Instagram

getting mad if you post a bikini picture and doing all these manipulative tactics to like run how we look at it. Because in my opinion, that's not a fair market. And it's just not fair to my business. If I have 10 million people follow me and you show my stuff to 10,000 because you decided to. You're directly affecting my income. And I do pay taxes on that money. So I feel like it's unfair.

I hate it. I hate the algorithm. I do love your rants, though, on Instagram and your stories about the censorship and things like that. And I just love how you go off. And even on Twitter, I don't have Twitter, but I was able to read through some of yours because I hear you're great on the Twitter takedowns. You should just have, like, not, like, a troll account, but just, like, have, like, you know, like a Finsta. Just, like, have an account that you don't tweet from, but you can still like keep up to date. Well, I just I hate social media, which is ironic because we have like a social media superstar sitting here right here and she can probably teach me everything I need to

know about it. But I don't like being on it. So my only social is Instagram right now. And I and Clubhouse. Have you heard of Clubhouse? I have. I cannot. The idea of it sounds horrible to me same for she i'm like jamie i can't get with it her and brock my boyfriend they love it it's just it's not for me i've i've tried i keep like gaining followers on it but i'm like i haven't seen it but in my head it would be a place where

people tried to out personality one another. And that is my biggest pet peeve. Like I cannot, I don't care. I mean, basically the quick rundown of it is there's different rooms. So whoever you're following, you can see what rooms they're in. And what I like about it is that it's like in a new, it's in the beta stage right now. So there aren't a lot of people using it. So you have access to the best top people in any field. So I can go ask Grant Cardone a question

about real estate. You know, he's on there and, or I can like Perez Hilton. It was so funny. Perez does all these rooms. He invited Sheena on as a moderator. She accidentally accepts it. Okay. So no, no, no. He didn't invite me on as a moderator at first. I had all my notifications on. Okay. And I see it said something like Perez Hilton, da, da, da. And so I just thought like, oh, he just joined Clubhouse. So I was like, oh, okay, I'll click on his profile.

No, when I clicked, I automatically entered the room. It shows my face. I'm one of the first people to enter it because it was the second the notification popped up. I was at my phone and he's like oh my god sheena shea's here let's invite her in to speak and i was like abort abort i wasn't i was like shit i how many people are there there weren't that many yet but then so many people started joining and i was waiting for a phone call so i just text him on the side and i was like hey i'm so sorry i have to hop off for a phone call. So I just text him on the side. And I was like, Hey, I'm so sorry, I have to hop off for a call. Like, I don't want you to think I'm like not into this. Like you're doing great, sweetie. I gotta go. Oh, my God. Yeah, that would be a lot of pressure. Okay, hold that thought. We're gonna take a quick break. You guys have heard us talk about this before. It's care of which is a wellness brand that makes it easy to maintain your health goals

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code Shay 50. Again, for your first care of order, go to take care of.com. Enter code Shay 50. Back to Instagram. So how did you grow from 1 million to what you're almost at 9 million now? You know, I was at 9 million and then it depleted, which is very sad. I think a lot of people's has depleted. I mean, I know that happened with my sister's boss. Like she was over four and now she's not. Yeah. The bigger accounts are really going down because it's kind of like killed the explore page and who knows how they manipulate the growth strategies, but like the 1 million to 2 million, like they're doing well and they still continue but if you have like nine million like all my friends have lost like half a million people over the last year and a half which is shitty because it's like you know we're in a

pandemic you're already killing our views and our reach and now you're we're gonna like kill the followers like it's a lot and anytime you have a paid partnership it does not even get to reach like half of your audience yeah and you're what, because I'm getting paid people who follow me like I had a old girlfriend of mine. I'm more of like an acquaintance, but we've followed each other for the last decade. And she recently texted me and she goes, Oh my god, I just saw you're pregnant. I'm like, I'm six months pregnant. But she was like, I haven't seen any of your posts. And I'm like, how? It's just the stupid algorithm. I fucking hate it. I do too. I really hate posts. And I'm like, how? It's just this stupid algorithm. I fucking hate it.

I do, too. I really hate it. And I really hate them right now. I have very, like, big middle finger energy today. So I just want to fight them all. Yeah. You need to fight your stalker. I know.

Yeah. So that's crazy. That's scary. So Lindsay found a stalker waiting for her. Last night. Last night. Yeah. So this is I'mer waiting for her at her place last night. Yeah. So this is, I'm a little still nervous and kind of like uptight about it, but it was

less than 12 hours ago or no, a little more than 12 hours ago. But I came home and there was a man waiting there and in a place where he shouldn't have been and couldn't have gotten to. And he creeped me out before I'd seen him. And it just brings me back to Instagram too, because they do nothing to combat like catfish. And there's Google Hangouts and it's full of catfish and people impersonating women. And romantic impersonation is really dangerous

to young women or older, or any women or any man, but it's really not good for stalking. And people think they've had conversations with you when they haven't. So some asshole showing up to my house, what if he thinks that we've been talking for two years? Oh, yeah. So I have an easy fix for this, and I don't know why Instagram doesn't do it. I'm scared. But when you sign up for an account, you have to send in your ID. Absolutely. That's the number one thing. And then you're verified and then that's it.

Cyber crime, harassment and abuse and even misinformation would plummet if people were responsible for what they did online. All these fake accounts that talk shit, they wouldn't do it if it was really them. And the platforms probably don't want that to happen because then it's way less fighting. It's way less bullshit, arguing, trolling, all of that. Yeah, less interaction. So they really don't want to. At this point, they need to because the negativity, the bullying, they are responsible, all of that. Yeah, less interaction. So they really don't want to. At this point, they need to. Because the negativity, the bullying,

they are responsible for part of that, you know? And they can prevent it. You know, they want to play God, but they're not really good people. Like, you guys might have been good at building a platform and, like, having money and, like, doing the science shit. But do I think that, like, these men should be the code of ethics?

Like, these leaders of big tech tech like fuck. No, no You know facebook originally was designed to harass women by voting on who was hot or exactly So I don't think that these douchebags need to be like ruling the world. They're not the oversight board or they shouldn't be they make Yeah, facebook created their own oversight board so they pick their own panel of people to so now you can appeal if your stuff gets deleted, or you can like, you know, write a letter if some shit happens, but no one voted on this board. The board doesn't represent all types of people, all ages, you know, all walks of life. So it's a failure. And in my opinion, to make a board that no one voted for is just like,

it's just tyranny with a bow. Well, speaking of boards, I know you like vision boards. I do. Do you have one currently? I have three. Yeah. Oh, can you tell us what's on them? Of course. Yeah.

I have a work board and then I have a finance board. And then I have like a soulful vision board that is like how I want to become a better human and what I want to do throughout the year. I like that. Yeah. So I keep them all very separate. I'm very boardy. Like I need, I need to see it on a wall. So the year. I like that. Yeah. So I keep them all very separate. I'm very boardy. Like I need to see it on a wall.

So they're hanging up in your... Yeah. And it's funny. They go by order of importance. So like the work board is in the living room and then the soul board is in my bedroom and then the finance one's like in the hall. Okay. It's very weird.

Nice. Yeah. I'm kind of a psychopath. Is there something specific you can let us know that you have on there? Like what's one of your big goals or dreams coming up? Well, one really easy is I'm looking for my first house, like a big, you know, my big grown-up house. And I'll be 30 in May. So I'm trying to hit that mark before I get there.

Yeah. Do you need a real estate agent? I have one. But thank you. But if you have any leads or something, like hit up my girl for sure. Sure. But the house is really important to me. I think with the pandemic, sitting at home, you get crammed really fast.

And I'm like, I need to be somewhere I feel inspired. Yeah, I bought a house two years ago. And had I known there was going to be a pandemic, I mean, it was the best decision ever. Because, I mean, I had an amazing apartment that I loved. But to be there for several months and it just wouldn't have been fun. It's the worst. And now guys are showing up at the house. So God is literally being like, Lindsay, get your ass out of this apartment. Like, go move.

It's a lot of work, like doing all the paperwork and the loan. It is a lot, but it's so worth it. Buying a the paperwork and the loan and it is a lot but it's so worth it buying a house is like the best decision I ever made we did four full months there in quarantine my boyfriend and I and then my sister and her boyfriend stayed with us for a while and just being able to have the backyard and the pool and we're all right on a golf course it was really really nice I love where we live now. We live in San Diego by the beach. But every time we go back to Palm Springs, I'm like, oh, this was like home for a period of time. It's a different energy. It really is. I love the desert. Yeah. I feel like

that's why you're so fun to follow too. Cause you kind of like you roam and you're always in all these fun places. A lot of people you follow online are in one place doing the same thing. You kind of have like desert, beach, L.A. Like it's very fun. Yeah, we're soon going to be back in L.A. full time. We'll still keep our place at the beach because Brock has his business in San Diego. But I'm like, I mean, that's kind of, I think, the dream. You have your city pad, your beach house, and your desert oasis.

Yeah, I think it's the dream. No one can argue that that's probably like the best setup of all time. Yeah, I think it's the no one can argue that that's probably like the best set. Yeah, I love it. So I hear you're a big fan of Bravo TV. Wait, hold on, Jamie, before we get into that, let's take a quick break. So if you guys know me, you know, I love to cook. The one thing I hate is figuring out what to make for dinner every night. Brock and I are so indecisive that it just gets difficult. So Green Chef has made it so much easier for us. It is the first USDA certified organic meal kit company. They have the ingredients that come pre-measured,

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And like the only people you get starstruck with are who? It's so true. I have met Leonardo DiCaprio. I mean, I've met like the most famous people. Don't give a fuck. But if I meet a reality star, especially from, and only from Bravo, because I met other reality stars and I don't give a fuck. Yeah. But I guess it's because I watch the shows and I do feel like I'm invested.

It's different. So like I met Erika Jayne. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that. Oh my God. Totally starstruck but loved her. Like she, I mean, she's a bad bitch. She's going through it right now, but she's one of my favorite people to follow.

She really is. She is going through it. Have you been in touch with her? I mean, I send DMs. I'm always like, yes. And when she posted the receipts of the mistress, I was living for it. From that phone from like in 1997. Where's that phone from?

That made it so much better, too. It was like a Nokia. Fucking Tom Girardi on his Nokia cheating. Like, how dare you? On Miss Erika Jayne. Burner phone of all burners. She asked you to be in her video for expensive. Yeah. So how fun was that? It was so much fun. It was maybe a few years ago. And I'll never forget. So we're like on the set of Erika Jayne's music video. Like she's

in full glam. She looks like a Barbie. It's this most the most beautiful set. And we had to like pillow fight in a bed full of fake money. And we're like pillow fighting and i'm nervous to fuck up her glam because i'm like this is seven hundred dollars on her face like i know this seven hundred dollar glam i'm guessing i'm guessing but i'm like you know i know the game i'm like you know this makeup was expensive right so i'm like pillow fighting and i'm afraid to touch her face and mess up her hair. And so we're doing it and all of a sudden she stops and she goes, hit me, bitch. I was like, okay. And I tried, but it was really fun. Nice. Yeah. I've met her a couple times. The first time I saw her was at Coachella like three years ago and I didn't know her yet. And I didn't, even though we're both on Bravo shows, I don't know if she watches my show.

So I wasn't going to go up and be like, hi, I'm Sheena from Vanderpump Rules. You should have. So I did it at Coachella. I felt very intimidated. I was like super cash. It was like a day, like the Bootsy Bellows day party, like before you get to the festival. And she was so done up. I was like, I don't feel cute enough to go say hi.

I love that. She was so done up. I was like, I don't feel cute enough to go say hi. But last year or shit, I guess 2019 at Bravo Con, I felt so like chic. And I was like, OK, we're here for the same event. We're sitting on the same stage. We're both being interviewed by the same person. I was like, I'm just going to go up and introduce myself and say hi. And I walk up. She knew who I was. She also knew that I wore her collection of shoe

dazzle at the People's Choice Awards on the red carpet. And that's what I was going up to like thank her. I mean, I know she didn't personally send me the shoes. It was shoe dazzle. Close enough. There were these neon yellow snake skin stiletto, like pointy toe heels. I did a neon yellow nail to match it. And so I went up to just thank her and she was like, oh girl, I saw. She's like, you rocked that look. And I was like, Erica Jane liked what I wore. Because she's just so glamorous.

Yeah, she's such a star. I have a question. Do you get nervous around any, like have any of them ever like freaked you out? I've met Erica, you, Todd and Lisa were on a plane. And I told Todd he could cut in front of me Ken? yeah

the husband and he had a dog and then maybe a few others but I've met like a handful but like do any freak you out? not freak me out I would say sometimes more like

like Lisa still to this day a decade later she's still intimidating to me wow she still scares the shit out of me whoa and like that was the thing with like Erica she's just such to me wow she still scares the shit out of me and like that was the

thing with like erica she's just such a personality and just such a star like literally a star that it was intimidating but i haven't really been starstruck by any of them i get starstruck by like elton john like when he was next to me at Craig's I was freaking out like people who are like legends yeah that's the only person I would really get like freaked out by because like I've been on red carpets next to Kardashians and people before and that doesn't really phase me right I just I love seeing them in person and just as a girl i think we probably all do this i'm like okay so she's this tall oh yeah that's this big and it's like because on camera you can't really tell the kardashians look way bigger on camera than they do in person i don't think

people understand like how tiny kim actually is very tiny so i'm like standing next to her at up fronts one year and i'm like i'm bigger than her what the fuck yeah her boobs are obviously bigger but like she's itty bitty so I am like fascinated when I see people I watch on tv but I don't really get like freaked out or starstruck by them yeah but the older legends so I know you had a nice run-in with Real Housewives of New Jersey when you first got on the show oh yeah, yeah, I know them, too. Not them. I know Melissa. We have some mutual friends.

I love Melissa. I know. She's so cute. She is. Just so much energy, too. I feel like, how does she manage, like, a store, the show, the kids, being hot, all of that? All of it.

And she drinks wine a lot. I'm like, how the fuck do you do all this? Yeah, I know. She's like the J-Lo of Housewives. Yes. True. Totally. Yeah. I love Teresa, too, though. Yeah? Yeah, I know. She's like the J-Lo of Housewives. Yes. Totally. Yeah. I love Teresa too, though. Yeah. No, I'm Dolores. I mean, I love my Housewives. Yeah, Dolores is so cool. Which Housewives franchise is your fave? I really love Beverly Hills, I think. I love Orange

County lately, too, just because I've spent a lot of time in Orange County lately. So now I like seeing like Laguna and Newport. I actually just like the setting a lot. Right. But I don't know. I love New York. They're so drunk all the time. It's so fun to watch. They're just like,

they're just peeing in bushes and they're like 55. That's so inspiring. Like, I don't know. Which one's your favorite? I only watch Jersey and Beverly Hills. I quit watching OC when Gretchen left the show years ago.

I had never watched New York. You have to start. I've never seen Dallas. I've never seen Potomac. Dallas is good this year. I didn't start Salt Lake. Oh, I love Salt Lake. I know, and I've heard so many good things about the other franchises, but

I watch a lot of scripted TV and being on a reality show I just I watch it with such different eyes oh I bet that it's harder to enjoy so I watch the shows with the people I like I know all of the shawls of sunset they're all friends of mine so I enjoy watching that show because as I'm watching it I could text Nima or Gigi or MJ be like okay so wait when you said this, da, da, da, da. I love that. So I enjoy that aspect of it.

So you two were both on the hills. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. We have that in common. So it's so funny because when you and I started texting, Lindsay, I was like, you were talking about the person you were dating who was on the hills. I don't know if we want to bring his name up or not. But I was like, wait a minute.

You're the hot blonde at the Friendsgiving. Yeah. They were thrilled to have me there for sure. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Audrina loved that. Yeah. I was like, wow. I think they really liked me. It was interesting. It was interesting, too. That was actually the second time Justin and I had met. But Justin had DM'd me, like, years before. Okay. And, like, tried to make it happen, but I was seeing someone else. Okay, so you get set up mutual friends with Justin. Yeah.

And the second date, you're at Friendsgiving. Yeah, which was really weird. So I'm, like, I'm not sure if I'm even, like, fully committed. But that night, we actually went out alone, and then it was just, like, you like you know for real and then how long did y'all date for we dated for two years so we've really just broken up so that friendsgiving turned into two years two years yeah our anniversary was november so i ended the relationship the end of this november like the very end um and he already started filming a little bit and i was was like, you know, hell no. Like, we're not going to do this separate double life shit.

I'm not interested. And I had to block his number. Oh, no. And we had to do couples therapy. I had to fully, like, I could not tolerate. Because he would still call and he'd call on our anniversary. And I'm like, you've chosen to do this, which I don't feel comfortable with. Yeah.

So, like, go on. So did you not want him to do the next season? I did not mind at all. I'm like, you can do almost anything, but we have to have transparency. I need to be in on it. Like, I need to know the decision-making process, you know, especially if a show has been all about your dating life and we've been dating for two years.

I need to know what's up. And, like, it's really inappropriate. And he was very comfortable making demands on my life and my schedule. And, you know, I would turn down appearances that made him feel uncomfortable. He was always added to my guest list when I did appearances and flew around the country. So it just wasn't matching. And I was like, yeah. Did you make the decision to not appear on the next season?

And then is that what kind of caused? I heard nothing from them at all um but i knew justin was taking meetings and i knew something was coming around and my intuition was like ask justin what he's doing like ask him about this show blah blah blah and um he gave me some i guess i can say he gave me some things i should expect from it and i was like yeah i'm I'm going to walk away. And, you know, I just couldn't do it. But good luck to them.

I'm sure it'll be fantastic. Are they filming now or did they have to take a break for COVID? I heard that they took a break. It's interesting because in November it'll be three years since we met when we were filming or when we filmed. So it's quite a bit of time in between um but i have no idea and you know it sucks so you have to cut off full communication totally but you know when you're in love with someone it was just inappropriate and he was like you know what if there's an emergency and i have to call you and like get in touch with you and i

was like call someone on the show like you you made a decision that like i'm not down with so call someone that you, you know. I feel like that's the only way you can really break up. You just got to cold turkey. Cut that shit off, Jamie. Stop looking at me. You have to break up with someone? I don't.

No. Just she has a bad habit of still stalking Instagrams. I wouldn't call it stalking. I would say somebody sometimes pops up on my discovery page and she doesn't click the little three dots and say not interested you have to do that i'm not interested in anything hills yeah bullshit don't care but she has a great point because i discovered something last week and then i love this spiraling i was like oh my Oh my God. One day.

What did you discover? I love discovery. So by the time, so her, our best friend Brett and I are the three of us in a group chat and Brock and I were like mid-watching a movie and I see voice note, voice note, voice note and I was like,

I can't listen to these right now. Give me a couple hours. By the time I listened to them, Brett was just responding via text so I had like six jamie voice notes just spiraling spiraling spiraling in a row brock's looking he's like is she okay you have an intervention you can take it from here i'm so excited my theory on this is that what i discovered happened because someone listened to the podcast last week. No, two weeks ago.

So I'm not going into it on the podcast. Okay. Shit. I'll tell you after. I was ready. There's a spy. Yeah. But she thinks that through this like mutual person who I know that now he's coming around. It was just like this whole.

I was like. Basically, he was in the same location as Lisa Vanderpump last week. I love this. Anyway, I don't want to talk about that. Okay. So how do you cut it off cold turkey? How were you strong, especially over the holidays? Like, I'm sure that had to be hard.

Oh, my God. It was really the worst, honestly. So I called, we had a therapist that we were working with. And so I called him before and I was like, look, this is my plan. I can't do the communication anymore. And I warned Justin many times that, like, I was going to not be able to do that. And so I was like, look, this is my plan. I can't do the communication anymore. And I warned Justin many times that like I was going to not be able to do that. And so I like call I did a pre call and a session and then we did a mutual we actually had to zoom, which was horrible. Because when you cut off communication, that's a death pretty much. So it's like a virtual

death and you have a time limit too. And I actually wanted to spend the call, like, settling up our being like, you know, wish you the best. Here's how we talk about each other in the future. Like, give me back my shit. Like, those kind of things. But instead, we almost continued to fight the same fight for, like, 40 minutes. And then we had the—and that's why I pre-called the therapist. Because, by the way, I learned that there are really bad therapists out there. Oh, yeah.

That's a new lesson. I think I've heard more bad than good about therapists honestly i'm not gonna lie to you there's some horrific fucking therapists i'd rather give a best friend who has good sense 500 and be like help us solve this absolutely then these i mean yeah there's some really shady ones too that will tell your personal business at a bar and then your friend overhears them talking. It happened to one of the guys on our show. Are you serious? Yeah, it was like at Rock and Riley's one night. His therapist was there

and she was talking about personal confidential shit and one of his friends was working and they're like, I know this person you're talking about. Like, that's illegal. Oh my God. I don't think she's working anymore. And I think there's so many unqualified therapists

because they'll, you know, the MFT marriage and family therapists, they're not actually, they don't really have to go to school for very long to do that as far as I know. You know, they're not doctors. You know, they're not even psychologists. And now talking to people about social media, reality TV, like all these kind of new age things that they didn't maybe learn because it wasn't around when they were in school. It's really complicated. Like, how do you explain to someone what like ghosting and catfishing and being like, oh, this girl had a fin stem was tagging me like they don't even know that fucking lingo.

Yeah. So it's just a little it's hard. It's really hard. But yeah, the Zoom therapy was worse. And so we had like a 45 minute timer and And I was just like, sayonara. And then I just blocked it after. Good. I feel really better.

There should be therapists that specialize in like reality TV and social media people. Yeah. Right? Yeah. 100%. Jamie and I were listening to your podcast where you had Tracy from The Bachelor on. And I think you said it was like 38 people. And I don't know when you recorded that but at the time it was 38 people who had been on reality tv have committed suicide yeah and just

the amount of people i know that you were saying from like was it love island yes and i mean that's just what's been reported i can't imagine how many other people, you know, even if they haven't committed suicide, but just are struggling with mental health issues that come from doing reality TV because it's really not for everyone. And they don't there's no way it's not that they don't do it. It's just there's not really a way to prepare you for what's to come when the show airs and what to expect from all of these trolls. 100%. And, I mean, I think people don't get, like, you guys are telling a story. The show is a product, and there has to be conflict. There has to be someone who gets the short end of the stick. There has to be dumb, embarrassing moments. Like, that's important to make the show. But people really forget that you're there for entertainment,

so they get so involved, and they think it's completely real, real and it's completely like, you know, in normal life, you don't like someone, you don't keep showing up to their birthday party. Right. But you have to, they're forcing these personality types who purposefully clash. And I mean, I've even been on some sets where the producers kind of lie to the cast. So they'll say so-and-so kind of said this. They're very smart about manipulating people and getting you to a point of conflict

and, like, freaking out. It's just, I don't think, I think everyone at home needs to remember, like, reality stars, give them the credit you might give an actor

a little bit more. Like, think about, you don't get mad that someone killed someone on a soap opera. Like, give people with reality show stardom like a little bit of ease

because they are absolutely playing a character still. And it's just forgotten by the general public, but it's not surprising because people are very stupid. If you could put yourself on any reality show, what would it be? I think I'm good. You know, I filmed three pilots, like pretty serious pilots.

Like we did the sizzles and the pilots for major networks. I was involved in the production of one. I've appeared on like two a little bit. And I don't think I want to anymore. I really think hopefully I don't have to. Yeah. I'm okay. I mean, I love being a fan.

All the goals that someone may have for doing reality, you already have that, I feel like. You know, you have your endorsements. Oh, for sure. You have your followers. Way ahead of that. Yeah. You know, so it's like, what would be the goal even doing it? I agree. And, but, and it's honestly good. I think it's really like a happy place to be to not like, you know, seek that out, but I definitely love being a fan. I don't want to go anywhere. Cause I like to watch it. Okay. So enough about exes. Are you dating anyone currently? Are you single? Because I know that was the number one question Jamie got. She was like, is she single?

Got it. Next question. 100% I'm single. I really don't know what I want to do. A part of me is like, should I go through like a ho phase? Like when I was in college? I'm thinking about it. Yes. I'm like, maybe I should. I've had two and they were necessary I had my after college one okay and then I had my after divorce one okay that could be me now there's really a part of my soul that's like maybe I should just fuck around like you should I don't know because the whole marriage thing I'm starting to be like I don't know I think when you get really disappointed at my you know I'm 29 yeah we were very in love it's like if I we were talking about being married so it's like I can't go from that to wanting to do that again it's so disappointing so I'm now

I'm like no you need a couple years to just fuck around you're still so young. My second hoe phase came at what? 32, 33. Yeah. I was like 32. It started in Vegas, which was the best place. Perfect place between the Chippendales, Magic Mike's and Thunder from Down Under. It was the perfect place to be single. I love that. Yeah.

I really, I could be down with that. Just dating around. And I've been reading a lot of dating books and they say that you really need to um I forgot the specific words but they said you need to like have a much bigger I feel like women a lot of us tend to date someone and we get the first guy we like a little bit and we stick with him but I really think I need to like try try yeah and do not settle that's the biggest thing like I was so picky until Brock and he just didn't give me a choice. He kept coming around to literally flew to Vegas. I was like low key seeing a girl. I was so over guys. And I had like this girlfriend and he showed up and surprised us with a present for

her that she really wanted. And literally just out of nowhere is in Vegas and like hung out with us the whole night. And I'm like, I'm here with her. And he was like, cool, well, I'm going to stick around. And he just kind of didn't give me an option. And I was so thankful because I was so anti guys that it really took the right person being so persistent and interested that I was like, okay, done with girls back to boys. I love that so much. And I really love too, that it's like, I feel like we like, there's so much pressure to have it figured out by 30. Yeah. Or, you know, I'm 29. So I was really dealing this whole pandemic with like the, oh, you're going to be 32. So like, I'm dealing with turning 30. I'm dealing with a breakup. And then there's like Corona. So it was just a mess. But now I really think adolescence is a lot longer than people

think. I really think it's till at least 25. And then I think young adulthood is maybe 30. And then you're barely getting into like the juice just based on how society is today. So I like seeing people find their soulmate. Not, you know, at 25. It's inspiring and it makes me feel a lot better. And yeah, I just love it. I agree. Yeah, I was 34. And that's what I tell people all the time. Like even like it took me a divorce, a relationship, hooking up with my best friend for a year and many others, you know, before I figured it out. And I, you know, now I'm pregnant. I hope we figured it out.

Hell yeah. Let's hope this one sticks. Yes. So we got a bunch of fan questions. I'm so scared. I also got a couple videos of, you know, I don't want to say dick pics. They were actually dick videos. Wow.

Thank you for that, Lindsay. So sorry. So when you asked for that, Lindsay. So sorry. So when you asked for questions, they responded with a video jacking off? They weren't jacking off. They were just, you know. What's a dick video? I'll show you.

I don't need to see it. No, you don't need to see it. Never mind. Brock is here. Sorry, Brock. No, like, basically, like, they're just laying in bed, you know, holding it up and showing it off. Hard or soft?

Like, I would say they were all pretty much, like, like in the mid-range unless they just aren't that big i don't know but um yeah even what i saw a dick from india i've never seen indian dick before so thank you thanks instagram thanks thank you for that um okay so some of the better questions. Better than the dick. Nick SSS underscore 143 wants to know, have you ever dealt with mental health issues? Oh, my God. Yeah, Nick SSSS. For sure. There's like no doubt in my mind that I've been a depressed person on occasion.

I don't know. I definitely I've go to therapy right now. I'm actually interested in Reiki and acupuncture. I'm trying to do the other route to really clear some negative energy, but for sure I'm definitely a person who is I have issues. But a lot of us do. We all do. Yeah, I think everyone. Are you an empath?

I hear you talk about intuition a lot. Are you a very spiritual person? i kind of am i'm not like super religious but i can definitely uh figure things out before they need to be said i have a really good intuition like almost a psychotic intuition and it's for the weirdest things like what um i actually knew the the guy who stalked me i had taken a photo of him outside before because he weirded me out and And months later, he ended up being the guy last night. But I had known that he, I knew something was weird. And I took a photo in my phone and I didn't delete the photo. I kept running out of storage, but I didn't

delete the photo for months because I was like, something's weird with that guy. Something's weird with that guy. And I finally deleted the photo, but he showed up at the house. But I'd recognized his face so much from the photo that it was like my own intuition. And even with Justin and the TV show, I would say, ask about this. There's something strange happening now. Bring this up right now. And, you know, the universe definitely gives me answers. And I, yeah, and I listen when it does. I love that. Yeah. I think, you know, more people should listen to their intuition or figure out how to to clear the noise so they can hear it. I think it's very important. We all have it. Yeah, for a reason. Yeah. A lot of people wanted to know what is your exercise and diet routine? baby to look like you. You look amazing, first of all. Thanks. But yeah, right now I'm going to Pilates as much as I can. Pilates is great for getting the body like nice and lengthened. Yeah. And I'm just trying to eat clean. Like I used to eat a ton of fast food. I'm like a naughty girl

from Louisiana. So I'll eat a lot and I don't really care. But the stress of last year really changed my body. I lost a lot of weight, but I felt really bloated all the time, which is the worst feeling. So like your boobs and your butt gets smaller, but your belly gets bigger and not in a sexy way. And it was horrible. So as soon as I started the breakup process, I started eating cleaner and I made a point to work out and I drink a lot of water all day because that bloating came from stress because it raises your cortisol, increases inflammation. So really when your belly is big, you didn't get fat. If everywhere else in your body is like losing

and your belly's big, that is stress. And so that's what I'm really working on now. It's even less about working out, but it's on Sundays I go to the beach and I relax and then I drink water all day. I'm just trying to be calm because I think that's going to make me look better than all the workout in the world. Definitely. And the acupuncture and Reiki will be good for that as well. I cannot wait. They're going to clear me of Justin Bobby energy. It's the best. Yeah. I'm so excited. I do acupuncture twice a week. I've done Reiki numerous times. I just finally made Jamie's appointment for her. So you haven't?

No. Yeah, she hadn't booked it. I got her a session for her birthday in September. We're now coming up on February. And I was like, you know what? I was like, she comes down on Mondays to watch The Bachelor. I was like, so on February 8th at 4.30 p.m., you have a Reiki appointment. Here's the address.

Enjoy. I'm so excited to hear how it goes. I'm really excited, too. Yeah. If you want to listen to my first Reiki experience with a different practitioner, you can listen. Was it last week or the week before? It was the week before last. Two weeks ago.

Two weeks ago. That's when you did Molly. I mean, mushrooms. No, that was a different episode. Molly, mushrooms. I'm just doing all the experimental shit because she's pregnant. Yeah, I'm like, do it for me. Ayahuasca's next up.

Yes. That's fun. Yeah. Did you see Chelsea Handler did it on Netflix? No. You can watch her do it. She's such a bad bitch. She doesn't care.

I've watched so many documentaries on it. I've never seen hers, though. She did it, and they filmed it. So you see the whole thing. Oh, that's fascinating. Like Zac Efron went to show, but he didn't show at all. And I'm like, no, Chelsea Handler did it and they filmed it so you see the whole thing because a lot of people like Zac Efron went to show but he didn't show at all and I'm like no Chelsea Handler did it yeah I don't I don't think I would want to show it all I do I want to film me doing it and what comes out of it well yeah actually you film it and then you decide if you want to show other people yeah yeah yeah

edit out so healing for like supposedly one session of ayahuasca is like 10 years of therapy you know it's like people have said like it's this ancient thing. It's basically they take two roots in Peru and these ancients figured out how to combine these two particular roots, make it into a tea. And then they call it like the dotores. Like I think that's or doctores or something. It's little doctors goes into your brain and fixes everything that you have fucked up all your trauma you witness your trauma from third like a third person point of view so it takes you out of it and so it's like that's how you can heal it so yeah super interested in this but anyway oh let's go back to your

questions i have one more for you uh do you have dating advice for women um for example like do you think men should always pay or how soon you know do you hold hold off having sex in the beginning or do you do any of anything like this or do you not have any like gender rules oh hell yeah well this is for both but i think um i always tell people like i don't do casual sex anymore even though I'm thinking about a hoe face so I might do it consciously you can have a hoe face without having sex

yeah you can you can just date a lot of people date around you know for me that's what's fun I don't like casual sex either see I don't like dating like the awkward conversations you have to have with fucking strangers like you know just go out to a bar and then bang it out i don't know yeah but i feel like

if you're going if you find yourself if women find themselves having issues with commitment i think one of the smartest things to do is establish the relationship before you have sex patty stanger said it on the millionaire match Remember, like, no sex before monogamy. She wasn't playing. Like, she was telling you, like, golden advice. And I know it sucks because, you know, other partners will ask for it. Like, men will ask for sex knowing that they probably shouldn't have it. And that was, like, a thought to, like, that Patti Stanger would always say.

But if you have issues with commitment, like establish the relationship before. And whatever you do in that beginning phase is how the whole relationship is going to play out. So say you court each other for two months. However that dynamic is, that's what's going to last you two to five years. So if you start paying for stuff in the beginning, you're going to do that for two years.

Yeah, been there, done that. Yeah, so the beginning is really important, just like those little cues. I will say one thing about my hoe phase was if it was someone that I felt like I was going to be genuinely interested in dating, I wouldn't sleep with them right away. Exactly. And I've actually never. Well, nope, lied. There was one one Chippendale after that show. We did have sex that night. But other than that, but then we ended up like still being friends and like it continued. It wasn't a one night stand at all. I've never had a one night stand. But if there was someone I

seemed like I was interested in, like, you know, then, yeah, we're going to go out to a few dinners and get to know each other first. Like Brock and I hung out for several weeks before we had sex. Cause I thought, you know, like, I don't know, this guy could be the guy. So I'm not just going to bang him. And there was the girl who was in the way and you know, the whole thing. Wait, so when do you know, when is it appropriate to have sex like do you have that conversation about monogamy for like how do you initiate that conversation 100% you well usually I mean usually at that point like a guy will or another group will bring it up and be like so what are you guys and the guys like you know we're together or whatever but as soon as you guys are like we're dating we're monogamous that's when I think you I don't think

it should be unclear I think you should be very clear because the wrong person is going to take advantage of it being unclear. And there are assholes who will date you and waste your time and pretend like they love you and then leave you after they have sex there. And I think those people are fucking gross, but we have to play the defense. Like we can't try to fish out who's going to be that guy. We can only be like, let me not have sex with you till we're established. Yeah. So do you tell them that up front? Oh my God.

That's your plan. Okay. Yeah. But I really, I mean, I'm kind of a, I'm actually kind of a really serial monogamous. Like I've been dating people for a while.

So there's, I haven't done as much dating around. So maybe that's what I need to do. I think everyone needs their ho phase, whether it's in college, you know, those slutty college years or after college in your early 30s. I think it's necessary because then also when you do settle down again, it's like, you don't really feel like you missed out on anything. You realize how much you don't want that anymore and how much you do enjoy this so it's just a good

balance that's just my advice I did it twice like I said and I think that both times were very necessary the second one even more than the first because the first I was just I was 21 I was single right there one other thing I wanted to ask you is we were talking about it last week you know like there are celebrities everywhere. So like, yeah, I don't want to settle down in a relationship when I was banging the guy from Desperate Housewives. Of course. So who, if you can tell us, was your best celebrity hookup? Or not even necessarily like hookup, but like interaction with like you went to dinner or something like that so you don't have to say

you slept with that i mean i don't even want to say it because i still hope that because i'm newly single so it might happen okay but i can just say like the number one like you guys all know think really really deep you know exactly who the fuck i'm talking about you're number one and it's like think of the guy you're thinking my number one is no one's number one so wait who's your number one come on if you're listening to me just trust me it's like think of the guy you're thinking my number one is no one's number one so it's wait who's your number one come on if you're listening to me just trust me

it's your number one like that's all I can say Chris Pratt nah better come on number one the hottest guy in the world

in my opinion Brad Pitt there's only I mean what gets better than Brad Pitt did he die in Titanic he might have he might have died

in a boat movie once or twice does he have really bad taste in women on boats I might have party with have died in a boat movie since you have really bad taste in women on boats have party with him but no sexual intercourse okay okay so there's you know there's still hope yeah but we have to uh we have to kick him of his like dating baby habit you know what i mean i don't like his um i mean he seems to have a type also but um i don't know he's not my type so that's why when you said yeah same who's your number one i'm scared mine are like weird shy nerdy emo boys like our taste is very

different like tattoos her bachelor crushes are like the ones i would have sent home on the first night. Oh, fuck. I like a unique person. Like someone who isn't perfect. You like that guy from the OC, the guy with the curly hair? I like his nerdiness. I don't like curly hair, though. There is a guy who's in the OC who she likes. Oh, I've got my eye on someone, right?

He's newly divorced. Yeah. Oh, so he's broken. What's that? Channing Tatum? No. No, see, that's not my type. He's too perfect, Yeah. Channing Tatum. He's broken. What's that? Channing Tatum? No. No, see, that's not my type. He's too perfect, like, in that way. To me, that's not attractive. I like something, like, flawed, I guess.

Ooh, that's cute. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like I'm the notorious, like, bad boy dater, because I dated Dan, and then my ex, Callum Best, who's, like, I mean, he's such a cutie. He's very good looking. And then I had Justin, and it's like I mean he's such a cutie he's and then I had Justin and it's like where the fuck am I gonna go from here we did Dan Callum and Justin opposite direction and I think the problem is I don't I'm never really into it at first just like you said I think that they're kind of wild and they love that and so maybe like a tech entrepreneur or

something like somebody really smart but super successful and ambitious for you let's date the guy who like owns twitter so we can fix all like the world's problems oh my god you guys would be like a power couple right yeah okay so what is next for you do you have a new calendar coming out this year what are you working on i do have uh my 2021 girl and girl calendar it's so cute i put my friends in it. So I produce this whole thing. It's really fire. What am I doing this year?

I know I have some big photo shoots coming up. I might have like weaseled my way into a film. But that's about it. I mean, I'm really, you know, so busy with my podcast. And then I have like one of the biggest OnlyFans pages of all time. And that is top 0.1%. Yes. And that is it. Top zero. Zero one percent. Yes. So that is extremely difficult to manage.

That is a full-time job, just talking to fans all the time and creating content there. So I'm just fully immersed in this. And then I have to buy a house. Yeah. So all of that. Busy girl. Yeah. And not going insane.

So tell us about your podcast. So it's called Eyes Up Here. Yeah. Eyes Up Here. I love that name too. It's so cute. Someone on Twitter made it up, but Eyes Up Here is honestly a show about whatever I'm into. So I talk to my friends a lot, like you and Jamie, but then I love to talk to experts. So this week I had experts on domestic violence from USC come on and I've talked to Burt Kreischer and I've had some actors

and comedians. I'm just kind of interested in everything, which makes it very difficult to explain the show because I feel like I have trouble explaining this show, too. Yeah. I don't know. It's fun. I feel multifaceted. Like some days I want to talk about science and some days you want to talk about boys. Yeah. Not that those two are exactly opposites. But I love that. Yeah. So that's what I'm up to. Amazing. Yeah. Well, you guys definitely have to check her out.

Go sign up for that OnlyFans. Listen to Eyes Up Here. Yeah. Hell yeah. I love it. All right. Let's wrap it up with some reviews. Lindsay has the negative one.

Yeah. And first of all, since i'm an outsider i listen to some of these negative reviews you guys are fucking insane not you guys but like some of the people who obviously write some of this shit i'm like this is free content and you're so warm and light-hearted i'm like what do you even have to say? So, you know, I'm from the South. I will fight your ass. But okay, what is the, okay, the negative one that says, okay, it says from Jacqueline, I'm so sorry, but anytime you tell stories about yourself, it's awkward, especially when the podcast is about someone else. Well, honestly, moron, I feel like when you mirror, like a part of being a human being is drawing from each other's experience and being like, oh, yeah, I've experienced something similar.

That's actually what sane, rational-minded humans do. It's called a conversation. Absolutely. And it means that you're listening and you're engaging and also, like, you're such an idiot. It's hard to even give constructive criticism to trolls. Yeah. Be nice. Brock is here and he and he like always fights us on this he's like take it as constructive criticism but then there's just some yeah that it's they're just trolls yeah it's you know there's

nothing constructive about it i i literally feel like i have so many jobs and do so much i've never written something cruel on anyone's thing I've never left a one-star review on like almost anything same so I just wonder it's like it says more about the reviewer than what they're reviewing I mean I've never even left a bad tip for the worst service I've gotten in my life that's what I still get 20% like they're probably having a really bad day they need this yeah I feel like, I personally feel like you guys should do four stars for constructive criticism. Exactly. Five stars for perfect.

And I wouldn't even talk to the ones because the ones are cuckoo. Yeah. So maybe we should just stop reading the one stars. And I was worried about that because I'm like, is this going to enable people and encourage them to leave more just so we can discuss them on the podcast? That's how my twitter trolls are if i answer one they're like flock but if you if you answer a compliment those flock so that's great advice so anyone who's listening we do want your constructive criticism don't tell me not to talk about veganism don't tell sheena to not talk about her pregnancy because that's her life because we will exactly we'll keep it under control though um and i joke

no because somewhat people did say that and we do take it into consideration we don't try to throw it down people's throats yeah um the only vegan thing mentioned today was my um green chef ad so yeah and then lindsey and i obviously are uh business partners yeah in sugar but that's the thing it's like that's a big part of your life. It's my life. It's my passion. You know, it's like we touched on it. We talked about it. And then, you know, on to the next.

And it's like would you rather someone talk about like keto for hours? Oh, no. Or something else. Okay. So I have two five stars to read. So I'm going to let you guys tell me which one you want. One is very long and one is short and sweet. Let's do the short and sweet.

We'll save the long one for next week. Okay. Love this podcast. Five stars from Daskittles Knows All. Daskittles. I love listening to this podcast. It seriously is my favorite and I listen to a variety. I love Sheena and Jamie.

Jamie is so great at questions for the guests and always adds interesting facts during the conversation. Sheena is positive and always has the tea. Love them both. Heart, heart, heart. Aw. Thanks, Deskittles. Thank you. And you spelled my name right.

I appreciate it. Love that. Okay, Lindsay, tell everyone where they can find you. You can find me at Lindsay Payloss on pretty much every single thing. So, yeah, you don't really have to jump through any hoops. Lindsay with an E. Yeah, Lindsay with an E. I used to be first, but, I mean, who knows if Instagram is down today.

It was the first one when I typed it. Yeah. Yeah, you never know. Sometimes they're shady. Sometimes Lindsay Lohan beats me. But that's Lindsay with an A. Mm-hmm. I don't know. But, anyway, Lindsay Paylan beats me. But that's Lindsay with an A. I don't know. But anyway, Lindsay Palos

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