Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - From Louisiana To Los Angeles with Lindsey Pelas

Episode Date: January 6, 2023

This week, Scheana and Brock are joined by model, actress, and influencer, Lindsey Pelas. Lindsey talks about moving from Louisiana to Los Angeles at 23 and the challenges she faced. She talks about being single and dating in Los Angeles, leading to sharing tips on how to get a guy to commit and how to attract a mate. Lindsey shares a story about the very first night she met Dan Bilzerian and visiting the Playboy Mansion. What did she have to do for $2,000? Tune in to find out. They wrap the episode by talking about therapy, the power of changing your thoughts, journaling, vision boards, and more! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.   Go to http://www.everyplate.com/podcast  and use code scheana139 to get $1.39 per meal   Produced by Dear Media  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, everyone. We are chilling in studio. Got my husband on the co-host, Mike. How we doing, honey? I'm doing good, hon. How you doing? I'm great. And I'm so excited for our guest today. She has been on the podcast in the past. This was so long ago. I was like six months pregnant. But welcome back to Shenanigans, Lindsay Payless.

Thank you. Thank you guys for having me. I'm so excited. I always feel like the like Bravo fan VIP, like I've managed to meet all you guys. Oh my God, I love that. And I'm like, everyone listening should be very jealous. Jealous. Well, I'm so happy to have you back here. I want to catch up on how everything is going over the past year and a half, almost, God, almost two years. That's wild. Time flies. I've had a whole human. I know things on your vision board have come to fruition and I just want to get in on all of that, catch up and yeah. Let's do it. I'm excited. I'm down. Let's get into it, honey. Yes, ma'am. You want

to kick us off? Well, I guess the first one is let's tell everybody we've introduced you obviously two years ago, but there's some fun facts that I didn't know about. And that was, you know, where are you from and how did you end up in LA? Because you went to LSU. Yeah. Graduated from LSU. Is that Death Valley? Yeah, that's what, how did you know that? We call it Death Valley. When I first moved over here, I was in Phoenix training and I ended up training with Odell Beckham from LSU. The Honey Badger, we called

him. No, that was, that's Honey Badger is... Oh, you're right, you're right, Tyrone Matthew. Matthew, Tyrone Matthew. But yeah, he was a year first. Damn, LSU is getting, it's okay. We had a lot of football drama in that town. You did? Yes.

Wow. I was Jordan Jefferson days. Do you remember that? No. Oh man, good times. But yeah, a lot of football drama at LSU. And then you went from Louisiana to Cali. Yes.

How old were you when you came over here? 23. How was that? It was pretty crazy. I had graduated from LSU. I was still bartending at the time. And this was when Instagram kind of just started. And I was posting on Instagram and I would get like, you know, 5,000 followers a week.

And at the time I ended up with like 250,000 followers and I was doing some modeling here and there. And I'm like, I can't live and die in Louisiana. Like, not that it's, you know, that's a lovely way to live if that's what you want. But in my head, I was like, nah, this isn't going to make sense. And so I was like, if I'm going to bartend and model, why don't I go to Vegas? And then somehow that turned into LA. LA seemed like the harder choice, which seemed like the right choice. So then I moved to LA. I had $3,000 left from my bartending budget after I'd paid for the moving truck and whatever else I'd

paid for. So yeah, I struggled for like two years in this town and it was hard, but we made it. Tell us about the struggles. What was like, Oh my God. Cause LA people come to LA. It's expensive AF. Yeah. And a lot of people of people i mean this is one of the most expensive places to live in the world the rent is crazy and i moved here and i thought like oh i'll get a bartending job which i did but making you know 150 to 200 a night isn't really gonna cut like a 1750 rent yeah no and i i don't know how i even just survived and there was actually this funny story one time i was hanging out with dan balzerian and we went to this like crazy guy's house late at night and he loved to golf. And he was like, I like to hit my golf balls off my yard and hit them into these like mega mansions down the hill or whatever. And he goes, isn't that crazy? He had a whole setup and there

were these beautiful girls there with Dan. And he goes, if any of you girls can hit the golf ball into the yard and it was actually a celebrity's yard but i don't want to say it just i don't give a trouble oh my gosh but he said if you can hit the golf ball into the yard i'll give you two thousand dollars that's right you're like i'm hitting that golf ball yeah and i was like oh i need this let me go last and i watched every girl must have been like eight girls i watched their foot placement. I saw the swing. I studied it as hard as I could. And I hit two of them right where I needed to hit.

And I got $2,000. And that's how I paid my rent that month. And I'll never forget that story my entire life. But it was a struggle. Yeah. The struggle is real. And the hustle is even better. Going last, paying attention, being like, okay.

I had to. Because I'm not going to lie, when we go to Topgolf, you do see some great swings and you see some wild swings. But, you know. But that is so smart of you to watch the footwork and the swing and all of that. And that is one thing that I feel like a lot of people don't know by looking at you is that you are smart. You are educated.

You are so much more than a pretty face. And I want to get into some of that. What do you think is the biggest misconception about you? I think people think I mean, I hate to even bring up the B word, but people think like I'm a bitch or mean or something. And that is so just off. It's just not my cup of tea. I mean, I've been underestimated my whole life. So the last thing I'd ever do is underestimate another person or gossip about another person. I don't get a kick out of talking shit like that is just nothing in my wheelhouse. And I'm also not really materialistic.

I love investing in things that last and make sense, but I'm not. I don't need a ton of money. I don't need to date a rich guy. I just almost everything you think that i would be i'm completely opposite yeah so yeah and it's definitely annoying it's hard being misunderstood all the time that 100 that was one of our big ones because when we're asking our audience like hey what do you guys want to know and it's all like the basic bullshit that comes our way is she single so many but it was just so many like of those comments that you know i'm sure you see all the time then there was also the one from like ken firefighter who said is she currently seeing someone and if not would she be interested in

seeing someone from canada maybe who's a firefighter hey canadian i am super single and speaking of people getting it wrong, I have learned like so many lessons. I think the last few years in dating, I think that's what a lot of people, honestly, if they need to, like, if I brought any value to this world, I've been studying how to deal with guys and being in love. And I can debunk a lot of the myths about hot girls and what it takes to get a guy and how to get a guy to commit. I've actually learned a ton of skills along the way. Tell these,

these skills and how to get a guy from a single woman. Oh my God. No, wait, what? No. Well, I think really in my dating history,

I've dated some of the most notorious bad boys that actually are alive today. I've dated Cal and Bess and Justin Bobby and Dan Bilzerian, and I've had long relationships with these guys. So I kind of I understand how to get a guy to commit. I kind of understand how to attract a mate, but I can also tell you exactly why they're not lasting. And, you know, I've just I've just been out here studying. Give us some tips for the listeners, for all the single ladies out there. What are some things to look for? What are some things to do or not to do to keep a man? Oh, my God. I feel like I've been waiting for this for like the last few months. OK, here's number one. This is like the biggest lesson that I think I've

learned with all my friends dating last few years. But women, the other team plays dirty. They play dirty as fuck. They play dirtier than our brain would even fathom that they are willing to play. Like the way they they're good at weapons, you know, they're good at weapons and no weaponized love and a fraud and a fairy tale. I always say begin the same exact way and you're not going to know the difference. So when you go to fall in love and when you go to attach to someone, I think it's important to keep two lenses on you keep a lens on like okay this might be real this could be lovely but you got to keep another pair on that's like in case this is all a fraud i can pull the ripcord and jump out and

you have to be willing to jump out when your body and soul are already attached and that takes a lot of discipline that takes a lot of practice that takes like that takes a lot of self-love and courage yeah because the way attachments work our whole body and being think that we're not going to survive this they think when we when we make a physiological bond it thinks oh we're gonna we need this person to survive they affect our heart rate our sleeping patterns everything and so your body's going to be like you're not supposed to survive this but you have to have your mind go yes i fucking can and yeah it's just a there's a whole lot of science with love and i spend a lot of my time doing that at home like i'm just studying this all the time so

when i'm dating someone i'm just collecting data you were just collecting data i'm practicing. I'm like, I'm figuring this out. I'll try this thesis on this one. Here we go. Right. What is the best piece of advice that you've received and also given? Because I just from interviewing you before and staying, you know, in touch with you, following you and whatnot, hearing you on other podcasts, I know you are so wise, but what would you say is the best piece of advice you've given and received? I think the best piece of advice I've ever given is no one is going to know what you're capable of beside you. Like you can't just like you said, people are going to put me in a box. People thought I wasn't I don't know what people thought I was going to do with my life. But I said, you know, I wanted to model. I wanted to be in a magazine. I want to do this, whatever. Like, you know,

I made millions of dollars. Like I did this all by my fucking self because I said I could, and I knew I could, I can do anything and you can do anything if you actually believe it and you're willing to work for it. And I think the universe really like keeps score. So you might not have the dream job that you want today, but are you prepared for it if it came? Because you could probably be, you know, improving your health. You can maybe be improving your mind, your patience, your everything. There's so many things that you can be doing to show the universe that you're ready. So when that opportunity comes, you know, it's there. I just think that there are no limitations.

Like don't allow people to put limitations on you because they're stupid and they're doing that for their own self-interest they're doing that for their own projections it has nothing to do with you yeah who told you who gave you the advice eat an elephant one bite at a time one of my financial advisors actually wow i get stressed out a lot i actually have an anxiety disorder and so i get stressed out a lot. I actually have an anxiety disorder. And so I get freaked out. Everything seems really big. And I also, I used to think in a way that anything that can go wrong will go wrong for me. And that was really, really unhealthy.

Definitely. Yeah. Because you can't control anything outside of your control. You can only control your actions, your thoughts. And if your thoughts go into, I can't help myself, you definitely find yourself helpless. And I can feel, you can feel that emotion just kind of like grow. Yeah. You got to like one bite at a time, your problems, but also I've been doing, so I, a little backstory about my last year in life, but the last four months or so, I finally paid for a very expensive therapist and I put it

off. I'd gone to therapy when I was in a terrible relationship a few times, but I never gone by myself. And so I finally went and I've been attending therapy for the last few months. I thought that if I could get my mind working better, that my work would be better and everything else in my life might improve. And I was 100 percent right in that assumption. But I thought if I've spent my whole life being very, very anxious, there's nothing that is stopping me from doing the opposite and going to radical happiness or radical optimism. And so instead of saying, don't be anxious, I'm giving myself a new task and I'm saying, be a radical optimist. So think everything's going to work out for you, like totally flip that switch. So instead of saying, don't do this, I'm changing my own mind and doing radical happiness, radical optimism. And so that's what I've been working on the last

month or so. I love that. That's amazing. Just changing your thought process because your thoughts are so powerful. And also when you were saying about the universe, I know you're a person who has vision boards and a house, 1.2 million. Oh, a house. Oh yeah. My first, that was my goal. Yeah. Your first goal.

So I want to talk about that because I know you have a house. I do. Yeah. How long have you been in the house? Is it everything you dreamed of? Is it the house from your vision board? It's actually, the goal was that my very first house that I toured with the realtor was perfect. It was one point to something. But I got a little nervous. It was right when the pandemic started. So it was March. My vision board was April. And so I was like, oh, shit. First of all,

who buys the first house? And then I did. Well, you know what? If you manifest that- But it was my vacation house also. It wasn't my like forever home. It was my vacation house, but yes. But I think, and you're like me. I feel like if you have a plan, you pick the universe giving it to you right off the bat. Like for some people like us, that makes sense.

Yeah. It was actually the second one I looked at though. It works. So. I can see the appeal of walking in and be like, oh, this isn't my budget and this is what I want to do. And I get it. Bam. And who of walking in and be like, oh, this is my budget and this is what I want to do. And yeah, and who wants to shop and be stressed about their heartbreaks with the house?

But yeah, but so the first one I was like, you know what? Not yet. And I spent the year getting even more reorganized with my finances and I shopped again the next year and I found the perfect house. It's even more expensive than the vision board. It's much bigger, much nicer. And my house is just, I don't show it off enough, but I think that's kind of tacky, you know?

I don't know where the line is. I want to show everyone where it's designed. Yeah. But I feel like it's, I don't know. I want to show everyone because it's like a piece of art to me. You should be proud of it. You've worked so hard for it. but I see what you're saying where you don't want to be like look at where I live yeah you know but it's also like yeah look at

what you can do you can start out after college bartending three thousand dollars to your name struggle for a bit and end up here like I think that's a great story to tell people to have those positive things come to fruition you're right I think when it's full, it's almost done being designed on the inside, but when it's finally just staged correctly, you have to do a house tour. I know. I don't know why I'm so nervous, but it's very, my house is very romantic. It's not like, it's not like what most people buy these days. It's got a lot of charm. It's very feminine. The structure of it is just unique and it's full of flowers and life and you know, every window looks like a painting. I love that. Yeah. I really lucked

out in that department. No, you should be so proud. You have worked for this and a house tour definitely needs to happen in the future. Thanks. Yeah. I need to work on my narcissism a little bit. What makes you say that? All right. Like maybe you just need my narcissism a little bit what what makes you say that all right like maybe you just need to up it a little bit because before you know narcissists are kind of the pathological ones can be very dangerous to other people correct but a healthy dose of being full of yourself is sometimes good and i think my i've let it go a little too low like i need to fill it up a little more you definitely need to have a little bit of that in there because it also helps you with your conversations to yourself it's like no i do deserve

this i'm gonna get this yeah yeah but especially in this world we're in when we're in the public eye you have millions and millions of followers people are judgmental so i feel like we always have to second guess the things that we put out publicly because what are we gonna get back when in reality we shouldn't give a fuck yeah but you do and if we were true narcissists we wouldn't yeah yeah but we we everyone in this room cares about other people and we even like make ourselves lesser or we don't want to show our achievements off because we really don't want to we don't want to make someone else feel a type of way right really really, you deserve to be happy. Congratulations on the house.

Thanks. Yeah. Thanks. And I will help you with your gym. Oh, please do. Yeah. I want to build a garage gym. I'm going to be so excited.

Ooh. Yeah. I'm committed to building a garage gym. Yeah. And I have all of it, like all the plans, but I need the stuff, like the equipment. So you know who, yeah, I yeah i was gonna say you know who has a really good at-home gym is tom sandoval oh i saw the video he's got he's got like a fun little so he built his is in one of the spare rooms upstairs uh-huh and then and then i tried i was

like we went in there he's got his plasma screen his treadmill set up the the tunnel and everything which is it's a great perfect setup and then we moved and i was like honey i'm gonna we got the treadmill i'm gonna make this gym in our garage not the same appeal because we've got low ceilings we've got a car in there it's like so it's a lot of work we'll make it work wait can i ask a scoop can what can you guys do like the mtb cribs i want to see all the casts of vanderpump on mtb cribs because you guys have fireplaces like that would be fun yeah that's me requesting this into the universe maybe we could just do if it's not MTV Crib version we could just do a YouTube Crib version where on Sheena's YouTube channel we go around and we

check out their Cribs yeah that'd be fun too that'd be fun yeah yeah because they brought it back and they're showing people I'm like I'd love to see your guys's spots yeah and sadly a few cast members aren't in their homes anymore but there are still some good houses that we could show yeah yeah okay all right y'all it is a brand new year and every plate is here to help you achieve all of your resolutions brock and i have been so over grocery shopping lately that we have resorted completely to delivery, delivery of groceries, delivery of meals, and every plate is what we are getting our meals from right now. And they also help you save money with delicious, affordable recipes delivered straight to your door. It is so nice to wake up, open your door, and boom, fresh food is on your porch. Plus, if you're looking to cook more like we do,

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and you can find Going Mental on dear media anywhere you listen to podcasts all right so I had some people ask about your calendar are we still doing the calendars? Is there a 2023 one? What can we expect? You guys, I literally am not doing one. I know it's so sad. And it was kind of disappointing. Well, like I said, the last few months I started with a therapist, realized how anxious I was as a person. And when you do a calendar, you kind of have to have it shot and done in like October. And I put the stylist, the sets, I do all the edits. I do all the work. I'm even the shipper. Like I'm in charge of the shipping and I run all that to get, you know, I run it because it's easy. Yeah. And I just, once I realized the toll that being highly stressed

was actually taking on my body, I thought, nope. And it doesn't mean that there aren't new things coming, but I kind of wanted to, I think sometimes you've got to stop something if you want to open up the universe for other things. And I think it's important to make sure, you know, I'm having fun. Everything I'm doing is fruitful. And it just wasn't the time for a calendar. Yeah. But I I'm hopeful in that. That means that bigger and better, more awesome things are coming next year.

Well, yeah. TV show. I hear. Yeah. I'm attached to, I have a series regular role on a show called Paper Empire that we've been filming in Miami.

Congratulations. Thank you. We have like a really fun classic cast on the show. And Denise Richards is a part of the show, actually. No way. Yeah. And she looks amazing. I've seen some of the edits and they're fire.

Yeah. And then I have a movie coming out next month called Alone at Night. We're in select theaters and on demand January 23rd. And that has a great cast too. G-Eazy, Winnie Harlow, Pamela Anderson, Paris Hilton's in the movie. Yeah. And I got to act alongside Paris. That's so exciting.

Yeah. It was really fun. How fun is that? Yeah. So I'm hoping when, you you know some doors close other ones open yeah screw the calendar we got tv and film yeah and i'll hit you back on i'll hit you back on like the you know once it's all organized and easier for me i'll give you another one for sure but this is that that grind mode where definitely what is going on with the podcast same thing it's

kind of on pause yeah same thing and I know that's not fun I feel like we're in this era where everything is what are you doing instant gratification blah blah blah but I really do think any real artists like I think there are years when you're you're writing the script and I think there's years when you're on the stage. And I really did a big year of character development, mind, body, soul, team, all of it. So I don't feel so guilty about putting things on pause is actually, I think, me growing into who I'm supposed to be. Yeah. And not just doing everything I can at once.

I think it's letting the universe kind of give it to me when it goes in the right way. And it gives you time to kind of water that garden and whatever it is, whatever business it is. And it gives you opportunities to do other things. Yeah. And so that's a great, is it, who's your therapist?

Because this is great, right? What you're talking about now is a great, for a lot of people to listen, like we don't have to be doing something to be progressing in life. We don't have to be successful in here, here and here. And then keeping up with like, you know,

keeping up the Joneses, it's such like a misbelief. And it really takes a toll on your mental health. Yeah. Where you're trying to, where the expectation is, hey, how are you doing? Oh, I'm doing X, Y, and Z, Z. It's just kind of like, I'm just grinding. Like that's it.

And that's all I'm going to say. I'm not thriving here and there, but understanding that it's time. You don't always have to be delivering a new calendar you don't have to be delivering a new project you know because sometimes projects don't work and i think we can be more comfortable talking about the failures with your friends then that's this then it's this therapeutic for you to have better relationship with your friends but having those conversations of this like oh yeah i'm actually struggling with this yeah is there a project you've done a product you've put out or something that's just totally tanked no thank god that's yeah thank god no yeah

nothing's been a tank and things have been fun you know a lot of this year too it's been i manage my only fans page too which is kind of a huge page. And that is a big thing. And my sales have gone up like crazy this year because I focused on something that was fruitful and easier. And it's like this, you know, I gave up certain endorsement deals because I could make more money direct to fans instead of doing the brand deals. So I'm kind of like in this middle ground. So, and even though I'm, you know, putting the podcast on pause, my next venture is buying a, you know, putting the podcast on pause, my next venture is buying a, you know, investment real estate property next year and at the top of the year.

So I was doing some finance stuff and it's just, you know, growing. Sometimes it looks like you're not doing anything, but I'm telling you, I've been like a cocoon in the caterpillar in the cocoon. Yeah, you know, totally. And you seem very self-aware. You know what works, what doesn't, what you can put on pause, what you need to focus on and that's so important yeah hell yeah good for you thank totally how do you find dealing with with with like direct to fan like only fans like do you because you actually get to have great relationships and build these relationships with your fans dude yeah it's sick

yeah i it's so funny because being in Hollywood, I think you'd always thought like right now I got offered a model contract, like a mother agency to find me my agent, whatever. And I'm actually in an amazing position where I'm like, do I even want to focus my time on that? Do I even want to go help build someone else's brand by modeling for it or do that? Because I have this amazing, authentic, organic fan base, you know, and I didn't have rich parents. I don't have a sexy husband who's, you know, finessing the situation. I didn't, I'm not, I might not be every brand's fantasy, but I'm man's fantasy. And I've got this huge thing that is real and that I built, you know, back in the day, like

a lot of the, like Anna Nicole and like Pamela pamela anderson you know it wasn't this i had a you know i had this in they were just natural raw talent yeah and i feel like i've had i've liked my followers and my people because we have this kind of relationship where that's what we've grown to be you know yeah definitely it's fun see if was working, if I had a narcissism that I was trying to up, I would say that better. But that was even so uncomfortable for me. You were fidgeting, you were moving around saying it. I'm like, is it okay to say that it's awesome?

Yeah. No, absolutely. Be proud of what you do. You have provided this beautiful life for yourself and you should be so proud. It's a lot of work still. And if you don't get that. No. And I feel like if my story, you know, if I do great things in life, which I plan on, I like the idea that we're going to go back and be like, yeah, she moved here with three grand

and this was all real and these are all real followers and no one helped her ass out. Yeah. You know, I like it. It's kind of edgy. Yeah. I'm just going with it. No, I agree. M.Anne wants to know, as a woman with a curvy body myself, she said, do you find dating harder too? And do you have any tips? God. Oh, God. Well.

That in itself was just like a, that's like pulling a string and unraveling many, many questions in there. No. Look, great question. But dating is trash for everyone involved it does not matter what you look like it doesn't matter if you're the hottest chick in the room the curviest no you know flat chest of whatever dating is trash it is hard it doesn't matter you can't be good enough to be absolved for any of the dating problems you know what i mean like

yeah there's no way out of it. It is just hard. It doesn't matter what you look like. It's so hard. The hardest part about it is you're dealing with humans. And that's the nuts and bolts of it, really. Speaking of humans, Gina underscore Sotil said,

what is it like being one of the best humans on the planet? Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Damn. Lonely. No, it's good. It's fun. I'm having, I'm in this, like, I'm fully single right now, speaking of dating and it's kind of nice not waking up and having anyone hit me up. Like I have no good morning, good night text. It's fine. I feel alive a little bit. Yeah. You

know, I don't mind it. Yeah. Good. I love that. Let's talk a little bit yeah you know i don't mind it yeah good i love that let's talk a little bit more about the fun side of living this life of being in la and you mentioned it earlier a couple of high profile exes oh yeah we've seen the parties tell us about the experiences like what is that like to kind of like be able to be to go to these events and to be around it like first off hitting golf balls into neighbors into neighbors got backyards. But what else? What else are like some fun stories that like some fun moments

when you like pinching moments. I have them all the time with Sheena where I realized like we get to have this experience and we're filming. For example, last year,

we had our own Coachella, went to the polo fields, grounds, and had our own little mini festival. And it's so fun. And it's just like cool pinch me moments

where I'm just like, wow, this is very blessed, very honored. Do you have many, many top of mind ones outside of making two grand from a backyard ball? Yeah. God, that was a good one. But I think, you know, when I dated Dan, those moments were really big because I moved to LA and he was the first person I met here.

How did you guys meet? At the Playboy Mansion. Oh, it was one of those nights. I known like one person here. I go to Warwick. I meet a stranger and the day of the Halloween party, they say, we can get you in, meet us at the Roosevelt Hotel and like wear a costume. And so I go buy a pitchfork and double horns and I'm wearing like black underwear. And I go to the Playboy Mansion for the first time and i met dan balzerian and then that night i saw dan's house and i was in a rolls royce that had like a zebra rug and like and and blue jay way just seeing the first like mega mansion kind of you know very expensive house shocking yeah like that is just

so i'm from Louisiana. I'm not even from a place where rich people are around. Like you don't know. It's not like that at all. So that, those kind of rockstar moments and, you know, meeting the celebrity. Dan was around a ton of celebrities

and brought a lot of fun. Yeah. I don't even know. I mean, there's just so many to start, but some of them I can't even tell you about because they're late night and naughty. Yeah, but Playboy Mansion, you always meet someone at the Playboy Mansion. Really?

Yeah. I guess I never had that moment before. I did. I used to work all those parties. See, okay, by the way, I was thinking of things to like talk to you guys about. I would love to do like a Sheena flashback, like where we heard all your fun stories. Because I feel like you'll casually just mention like, oh yeah, and this was with John Mayer and then this was with so-and-so

and I'm like, I want to hear all these stories. I was playing poker one last year. We were filming poker. Oh my gosh. And I was, have you watched the TV show

back in the day, Housewives? Well, there was the TV show Desperate Housewives. Desperate Housewives, remember that? I know of it,

yeah. And then there's that, John Tucker must die. John Tucker, the guy from John Tucker, pool guy. Yeah. So we're sitting down and I was like,

oh, I've seen this guy on TV before. Like, I don't know anybody from left and right. And so I was sitting playing poker and he's like, oh, how do you know everybody here? I'm like, oh, I met the Toms through my fiance, you know? And then he was like, oh yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah, she's pretty cool. It's all right.

She didn't date too many legends before me. Like she set the bar really low with the dude she was dating. And then it turned out that he was one of them stop yeah and you know what's funny is literally yesterday we moved the rest of our stuff from our san diego house to palm springs and to marina del rey and i'm going through these boxes and i found the mark jacob sunglasses that he bought me back in 2007. Wait, you dated John Tucker must die. Yeah. Who else have you dated? Oh my God. So many. I've thought about do I write a little black book? Do I when I write a book one day? Do I talk about the early Hollywood days? But then I'm like,

I'm a mother now. I'm my Hollywood days. You know, I'm a wife. Like, I don't know if that's inappropriate. But girl girl i got some stories yeah i would love to hear all the stories well when you bring back the podcast i'll come tell them there you go i have to pressure so speaking of businesses and things that you have been doing let's get that away from me back in hollywood and talk about a business you have here in la and that's sugar taco yeah we love sugar taco Sugar Taco. I hear that there are a couple more locations opening. There are. The next one is Long Beach. Yes. The next one on the T, but I don't know if I'm allowed to even say the next one because they haven't posted it yet. So I don't want to break the news. Okay. But we

just had a meeting yesterday and there's another one in the works. Yeah. Sugar Taco is on and popping. It is is it's so good it really is so good it's nice to have somewhere that's family-friendly plant-based and even our ventura location it's perfect for the little ones because we have this little like play area the kid play area and the moms love it because they're like oh my god like there's not a lot of you know there's a lot of restaurants like that no no they're and that's crazy if you think about it yeah Yeah. Yeah. Because we're the generation.

I remember when we were little, we used to be able to go and play in some play pens and all that. Yeah. We used to go to McDonald's and like fly off the slides. Yo, those were epic in there. I know. We didn't even go to McDonald's. We used to just go play. I would still go back. But when did they even secretly take those all away?

When they realized like, oh, people that have kids to stay home, we'll just leave that like that then, fine. Were we all asleep one night and like Santa Claus just came and took all the play places? Like, I just feel like I don't remember when they were taken. There was no news break about it. No, now that I think about it, I'm picturing the one that I grew up going to and yeah, that's gone. Just like, we got like men in black, like flashed.

Like, were they actually even there? Yeah, it was like flashed. Like they were actually even there. Yeah. It was like corporate America. They're like, oh, so that location there and that property right there makes no revenue as opposed to this property. So we'll just expand the restaurant and get rid of the playpen. That's what happened. But unfortunately, we can stick with the Men in Black story too. Yeah.

We must have been in like middle school or something. Just not paying attention. Right? Has it been that long? You guys got too cool for playing in the playpens and then you realize that they weren't there yeah then like technology comes around and it's like do you want to go on the slide or do you want your iphone your virtual slide on the iphone yeah seriously crazy um speaking of celebrities then do you have any kind of celebrity crush or someone you'd like to bump into one day and be like oh oh, hi, how are you? No. Me neither.

I've never had one. No. Never really had one. Do you? Well. Do you, honey? Yeah. No, mine would all be like women I look up to.

Like I always wanted to meet all of the Kardashians and people like that. And then I've ended up at events at NBC Universal, like upfront events or certain things. And then she's on the red carpet and then I'm on the red carpet and I'm like, Oh my God. So yeah, I've met a lot of people like that, but I don't know that I necessarily have a crush. Interesting. Yeah. That's a funny question. Everyone asks you, I have a crush. It's the rock. I was going to add that. You do? Yeah. But I have this hot take too. You know how everyone thinks Pete Davidson is dating all the hotties? Who else is like his age and like single and straight and single?

Yeah. And has that type of Rolodex, really? Like, I just don't know. I'm like, who are all the available dudes? I don't know if I'm missing something. They got locked down. They got locked down. We got locked down real quick.

I really do feel like though Hollywood has kind of skipped some of our ages like i feel like there's all those they're the people that were in hollywood 10 years ago they're still doing every role and then there are tiktok kids yeah and i just feel like there's a huge gap of people that's gonna be the new that's the new hollywood like you're gonna see movies and you already see them now of these influences and creators creating their own movies they're not even going for acting is the thing you would hope so but then like the people they cast for stuff sometimes they pick the people who are just i don't know i feel like sometimes the people casted in certain roles are just totally off yeah these days yeah it's just it's well there's also if you look at the movie market like people don't really it's that how many hits do we get to watch anymore you're just watching

turnover they just need people you're on netflix you watch the stupidest movies now but you just watch it yeah oh this is what it is and that's kind of expected for the chase of attention they've gone for more more volume as opposed to quality And then you still wait for those quality. But I mean, we waited 10 years for Avatar. I think it's more than that. Avatar was there when the McDonald's playgrounds were up. Exactly. It just popped back up.

Oh my gosh. Are you still journaling? I know that's something that you've done for so long. Oh my God, yes. And I've increased my journaling. I used to journal when I would get really upset or anxious or stressed and it's an amazing relief, but I've changed that. I journal when I wake up and before I go to bed and I know it sounds easy and I know a million people won't

do it, but my God, like do it. It is so, it will really help you regulate your mood. Like you check in with yourself. And I think there's something magic about putting words onto paper because I think goals come true faster. Like you feel better. It's similar to therapy. It is some kind of release. It's strange how the mind just needs to get it out in some way. But journaling is amazing, like amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing and free.

Yeah, I started a lot when I was going through my pregnancy and I started journaling and then towards like my third trimester, I don't know, there was a day that I kind of just stopped writing in my journal, but I still have it saved. It's in my fireproof safe box because one day I know I'm going to want to look back on that. But I recently I have no idea where it came from. He didn't order it. I didn't order it. Someone sent me a mental health journal and just out of nowhere, there was no note, nothing. And I'm like, OK, I think this is a sign that I should start journaling again. Wow. And I know that you've been really big on that. And that's something I want to start doing again, too. I think it's really good. It's a really good relief. And some of the books will tell you, you know, right for 20 minutes in the morning. Hell no. You have stuff

to do. Just literally write two paragraphs about how you're feeling, how you hope your day goes, and maybe being aware of like, oh, this might have bothered me earlier. Just put it out and let it. I think it's funny. You know how when you go to therapy, everyone's like you have to do the work. But no one ever tells you what that means. Yeah. Like they never say what it means. then it's been implementing new ways of thinking through like mind, body and soul. So body would be changing the way I ate, you know, healthy foods, being in healthy environments, prioritizing going to bed and doing things like meditating and writing in your journal. They're they're writing in your journal, they're active recovery for trauma and they're active recovery for conflict and stress.

And there are these quantifiable work-like things you can actually do for your brain that I think it's really a shame that not a lot of people get the benefit of therapy or get, you know, we didn't get taught mental health in school because there are so many really easy ways to change your entire life that don't cost much. And journaling is fucking one. That's what you said. Journaling is free and it's, and it's, and the biggest one, and we live in it now, it's like, well, I want results now. I want this now. And I want to be helped now. And unfortunately it's not going to happen like that. It literally takes time.

And it's about investing in now for wherever. And I saw the best meme. It was an old dude on Instagram and he was literally like, if you think healthy food's expensive, wait till you get your first sick bill. Right? Oh, well on that note, you know, like 95% of, they say all like most illness, the biggest precursor factor is stress, right? My God.

So we're doing all these things to work out our body and eat healthy, but we haven't, we haven't thought like, let me go readjust my mind a little bit. Yeah. It's really important because there are, there are even these conditions like fibromyalgia that stems from psychological issues and people have debilitating pain in life and you don't know when that's going to come on and you really don't want to cut your life early short or maybe cut the quality of your life early short if you can help it. And maintaining a healthy mind is just so much more important than I think a lot of

us have been taught. I definitely agree because, and the best part is, is a lot of people are talking about it. It is like the hot topic of mental health is a buzz button. And you know what? It should stay a buzz button because that's the best part about being a parent is I is i remember how i was raised i love my mom i'm not going to judge at all and we've all had difference but now we know better and now we can actually try and handle these situations that we put our kids in and that they put themselves in and let them you know self-learn and and all all of love but we really get to have the best of that knowledge of

understanding what that actually means how it will impact them mentally. And then that will grow faster. And hopefully we can just do our best and we're all doing our best, but I'm glad that the buzz button right now is mental health because it is a real thing. And I do think honey with a home body, I know you guys right now are trying to focus on like training programs and stuff like that, but now just that we're sitting here and talking about mental health and whatnot, I feel like that can be another angle with the influencers and people you get on is just maybe doing a live,

that's a check-in on a mental health. Like something like that, I feel like could be really beneficial too. Love that. You know? You're talking about like, oh, we'll do weekly check-ins with the training programs and this and that but it's like how is your mental you know not just physical i

think that you can take home body to a different level by not just focusing on physical health and also i guarantee you talk spaces nine out of ten influencers you get on this have struggled or are struggling with or know someone struggling with mental health, if not all 10. You know what I'm saying? It's interesting. Maybe we can even look into the mental health aspect for the new year. I like that. Even workouts that are like restorative.

Yeah. Or like, you know, there are no period workouts or like workouts for women when they're on their period. Right. And I'm like, I would love something gentle, but active. Yeah. Nothing out there. Like nothing. Really?

Not that I know of. See, because like in my space, we understand like you got to train differently during that. So when we talk to our clients, that's interesting. It'd be nice if something was just branded like that. You know, it makes me feel good when I put on that stupid lotion from the store that says stress relieving lotion. It doesn't relieve my stress, i like the yeah you know i like the placebo i do i love stuff like that yeah all right i want a rapid fire okay okay what are you most passionate about oh i think just being a decent human i like being a decent human i wish

other people liked it as much as well. Best book you've read. The best book I read. Oh, I love Secrets of the Millionaire Mind. I thought that that was a really helpful book about reframing how you think about money. But why I don't write was a fiction one that I love. It's just dark and weird. OK. Red flag. What's your biggest red flag? What's your biggest red flag? Shit. Ooh, there's so many to choose from. I mean, honestly, talking shit about your ex.

No point. You know, if someone talks shit about their ex in a way that is derogatory and not just if they have nothing good to say about them, usually not a good sign. Yeah. Interesting. You know? Yeah. When you think about the conversation you have with an ex and you're kind of uh-huh uh-huh biggest pet peeve ooh being negged yeah and put that in the context for me it's when someone gives you a compliment designed to undermine your self-esteem to where

you're put you have to kind of build yourself up so they'll say for example you're so smart for a blonde or you sound really articulate from being a girl from louisiana it's just this really dumb power play and it's a manipulative behavior but i hate when someone even tries to manipulate me because i can clock in i can read and i'm like not only are you doing this you think i'm stupid and you don't respect me yeah so you just hit me twice and I hate you. Yeah. Hate it. The backhanded compliments. You're so much prettier in person. It's like, thank you? I think.

Yeah. Rude. I feel like that's nice because like. Yeah, but it's like, so I'm not pretty on the show? No, you also have breakdowns over penguins.

You know what I mean? Whatever. Wait, I like breakdowns over penguins. I like that. I'm here for it. I like for charity okay yeah who's out here crying over a penguin i like how much you're willing to love so i think that is fucking dope that is rare that is a real personality trait that more people should get behind like loving too much you know what i mean i'm behind it when we first started dating we're in australia she flew over and we went to the Australia Zoo.

What did I do? I thought it'd be cute to buy tickets. And on the checkout, they gave me a little upsell. They're like, would you like to sponsor a- Adopt a koala. Adopt a koala. I was like, fucking course I want to do that. Adopt a koala.

I was like, hey, honey, I adopted a koala. The funny thing is, I didn't know about this penguin situation. So now here we are just adopting the world animals for love. So I get it. That is honestly so romantic. I think about it that the universe like paid it forward for you in that way. Right. Cause they never got to meet the penguin,

but I got to hug the koala. What was the koala's name again? That makes me want to cry. That's cute. What was her name? I want to say Claire, but I think that's, that's Summer's toy is Claire the koala.

It was something like that. But anyway, it's a funny, I didn't know about it until we came back to Australia and it became a thing and I was like, wait, show me that scene. And then I saw the scene and you were crying with who? Who's the old girl? Brittany's grandma? Mamaw. Mamaw. Yeah.

Me and Mamaw. Listen. I love that when you're going through the breakup, like the most random person is consoling you. And you'll just be crying at a stranger and it's like, thank God you're here. I know, right? No one else is here for me right now, but Mamma's here. That was, I think, my bigger problem when I came into the picture. I was like, if Sheena says the roof, the sky is red, it's red.

I'll fight you for it because she deserves that because she gives everybody else all that BS. She deals with everyone else's BS. And it got me in trouble often. Makes me argue with the girls on the show, which is fine. But I realized this season, bite my tongue. I shouldn't be raising my voice. And I got to count to three or ten. But still, I got your back, honey.

Thanks, honey. I love that. Yeah. That makes me think it exists. It does. Keep that up. It does. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We got it, boys. Step up. Yeah. I'm not going to give up. What would you say is your best quality and what is your worst? My best quality, I think, is my quick wit. I'm pretty sharp. I can figure out a problem.

You are sharp with an attack. Oh, thanks. Yeah. I think, yeah, I like the, I think I'm quick witted. My worst quality definitely was my crippling anxiety. I had a very, very anxious mind. So I'm going to always actively be trying to get over that. But I really do think that this therapy has changed my life as cheesy as that sounds. Yeah, no, it does.

I think the way that I'm thinking is totally going to change everything. Yeah. So and I think as we enter into the new year, everyone needs to check in with each other. Be you know know that mental health is real ask people how they're doing and just you know it's so important that we're here for each other because you never know from the outside you may see someone on instagram who looks like the happiest person in the world but you never really know what someone's struggling with so just as we enter the new year be a kind human period treat other people with respect how you'd like to be treated and if you want to be treated like shit keep it to yourself yeah or go find each other yeah like just keep that in a hole because

no one else wants to be treated like shit so don't do it i this the past few months i've been doing this homework learning about npd and other personality disorders. And it really changed how I viewed the world because there truly are people who believe in a hierarchy of people. They believe that some have more worth than others. They believe that to their core. And they also, you know, there are also people who are sadistic and there are also people who suffer with psychopathy. And so it's beyond like, you know, people having a bad day. There are these people who their minds aren't healthy in such a way that causes, you know, devastating harm to individuals and communities and in relationships. I think everyone also,

besides their self-work has to learn about that and those things, because a lot of our celebrities, a lot of our politicians, there are a lot of people who are very sick-minded and and it's quantifiable it's obvious and we gotta we gotta figure out i think it's good to know what we're dealing with what's a good place for someone of this is including myself how can i start going down that path of exploration or understanding that what would you recommend a good book to read or a good practice for me to figure that out real quick? I love, I just read The Narcissist in Your Life. It was pretty basic, but it was a very, I'll also get on these educational holes where I just Google shit nonstop, but The Narcissist in Your Life was really helpful. Walking on Eggshells is my next read. It's about bipolar disorder. I'm also reading the drama of The Gifted Child. It's about growing up in a, I think it's

about growing up in a difficult environment, but having you know a gift or being highly intelligent in a tough environment and how that plays out in adulthood at least that's what i've heard it's about but yeah i read a lot you should reading is powerful i know i need to read more i read a lot i love reading actually i wish you have like do you have like a read list where people can go and see check out your read list no but i should you should make one do like an amazon list where it's like your top books because everyone that listens to including myself i'm like wait it's very it's very empowering to hear you speak about topics it's like wow you really have taken the time how do i follow suit so i would recommend that because i would definitely go on an amazon list and find out what you read yes yeah i have

this site called goodreads they said it's like a social reading club thing. Okay. We'll see. But yeah, I love reading. There's so much. Oh my God. I don't know what it is. There's magic in reading and writing.

The way that you absorb the information, it just is different in the mind. And definitely, because I mean, once you leave college, once you leave high school, you stop educating yourself. You stop trying to. And then to be honest, I've really, the last two years, especially being out of business and just being at home, I've really like, I felt like I'm actually want to go back to learning again.

I just want to be cognitively challenged because I'm not doing it from day to day. I promise you that. And especially bringing it in social media, you're there swiping and all of a sudden, you know, what's going on? So I think that will be my New Year's goal is to get dial into reading and just focus on that.

So I'm going to go into some of your reads. Thanks for that. Yeah, I love that. I feel like because there's so much self-help stuff and a lot of books are written by men.

Like you'd love an Atomic Habits. I've read Atomic Habits. Great. The Secrets of the Millionaire Mind. That's definitely that one. But that's on the list. I haven't read that one.

But yeah, the 5am club is more motivational. there's a 5am club i've done it wasn't anything like oh you've actually actually i haven't read the full of them and i've got like the cliff notes of 5am club and then i just put into xp i was like yeah this is awesome and then for me my biggest problem right now is figuring out self-love for myself doing it for me because i've always been an athlete i've always done it for my team since the age of 16 when i got introduced into sport it was never about me it was about doing it doing the right thing for other people in my in my team and that has become a really it's i'm trying to become a civilian like

i take my hat off to all my clients that would get up in the morning and work out they did it because they wanted to get done before work and it was just like wow and i and my biggest that's my biggest problem right now the last two years it's me stuck in that rut of my i'm doing it for myself doing it for my family but i gotta figure out how to do it just for me oh yeah if i can water my garden because i can water everybody else's garden every all day every day i can do that i'm that's what i'm really good at doing but then when it comes to like the self-love you know my daughter's gonna grow up and she's gonna hear these lessons i try and teach her and she's like what the fuck happened to you dad yeah yeah and so i'm like oh i gotta like if i create this monster i gotta be the monster too so yeah yeah so you read a lot of books would you ever write a

book yes yeah i definitely think that's gonna happen oh yeah at some point i have i actually have a plot and an outline at home i have two done and i write poems a lot that's going to happen at some point. I actually have a plot and an outline at home. I have two done. And I write poems a lot. That's something I like to do for fun. Nice. But I definitely think that will happen. Okay.

So I know we've got a TV show. We've got movies. We've got so much in the works for you. Anything else coming up that we can look forward to? God, I don't know. Hopefully something great. Everyone manifests. Just living the best life. Yeah. Everyone manifests. god i don't know hopefully something great everyone manifests yeah everyone manifests i might sign this agency contract and just start doing some serious modeling but you know i kind

of miss the the industries type stuff i feel like the last years with covid we all got really independent yeah and i kind of miss the hollywood shit i'm like i'm missing you know strangers at photo shoots i don't know so we'll But fingers crossed. But everyone say a prayer. Yeah. Keep me away from these fuckboys. Let's add that into the prayer as well. Yeah, let's do that. Well, thank you so much for being here,

getting into some shenanigans with us yet again. This has been so fun. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah. I'm so excited for the show. Yeah. I can't wait. Oh, it's gonna, it's coming soon.

Yeah, we gotta wait for that release date. Definitely. Coming soon. Tell everyone where they can't wait. Oh, it's coming soon. We've got to wait for that release date. Definitely. Coming soon. Tell everyone where they can find you if they're not one of the 9 million people already following you. You can follow me at Lindsay Payloss everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Thanks for listening.

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