Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - From The Hair Shop to Hip Hop with Travis Mills

Episode Date: October 30, 2018

Musician and actor Travis Mills joins Scheana and co-host sister Cortney to talk about his love life, how he got into music, his acting career, and his surprise background in cosmetology! Be sure to check out 15% off, plus 3 free DVDs, and a special gift from Adam and Eve by going to adamandeve.com/scheana.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's me. Yeah. And our guest is Travis Mills, also known as T-Mills back in the day. What's up? Why did you change your name? I never changed it. It's always been my name. Oh.

Well, I know, I know. But stage name, like what? Look, it's just like, you know, it gets old of like people calling you like Tyler, Trevor, you know. Because they don't know what the T stands for. Exactly. Gotcha. You know, T, T, you know, T Mills. Yeah.

It's just, it's like, ugh. And so, yeah. Anytime I'd introduce myself, it's always Travis. Yeah. And yeah, it was just, you know, just you know just it got time yeah t is such a meme now like if there's drama everyone goes oh my god t yeah yeah yeah i missed the boat like two more years i would have been good right so i have to admit my ex-husband and i your ex-husband yeah i know i'm old wait how old are you i'm 33 oh i'm 29 okay okay so not that

much older but yes i have an ex-husband. Ex-husband. Okay. No, we used to listen to your music all the time. Awesome. Yeah. I hope it's not the reason of your demise. No.

Okay, cool. I mean, it was part of it. I'm just kidding. So you're confirming you don't have an ex-husband, right? I have no ex-husbands. No. I'm sorry. No.

One less thing we can relate to. I do want to talk about your girlfriend, though. Okay. Cool. Madeline. Madelania. Madelaine. See? Okay. I was sorry. No. One less thing we can relate to. I do want to talk about your girlfriend though. Okay. Cool. Madeline. Madeline, yeah. Madeline. See, okay.

I was asking her on the way. I was like, is it Madeline or Madelaine? Yeah. Because the way it's spelled, but the way my name is spelled is so weird. It's like Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A. So it looks like Sheena. Sheena, yeah. Yeah.

But okay. So how did you guys meet? We met on Facebook. Facebook? Okay. Now you're really aging yourself. Yeah, thanks. No, check it out.

It's okay because I auditioned for Riverdale. Okay, what part? Wait, yeah. So we actually were going – I was going through my emails last night and it was November – like November 17th, 2015 is when I got the script for the pilot for Riverdale. So long ago. Yeah. This is like three years ago.

Uh-huh. Almost like to the day. It's weird because I was looking for something totally different, and boom, Riverdale audition came up. Yeah. It was for Jughead. That's funny. Yeah.

Isn't that what Lucas auditioned for? Yeah. One of her friends auditioned for the same role. That's funny. And yeah, I auditioned for it. I heard a lot about the project i forgot about it obviously i didn't get it uh and then we had a mutual friend on facebook and her picture uh madeline's was her own set uh like in the in the you know the outfit and all that

shit and i like i'd remembered what the show was i was like oh my god that's you know the riverdale show yeah tbt and uh and so i just sent her a message and was like yo congrats like you know that's like that's fucking huge yeah um and yeah she didn't respond did she leave you on read or just like never open no i wasn't opened and i don't i don't really know actually and then like some whatever we were like friends on facebook i don't i don't really know actually and then like some whatever we were like friends on facebook i don't think she responded right away and i think she like responded a little later i was like thank you anyways yeah no i i deleted my facebook like fan page app years ago so that's the only reason why i have one is because i have like a artist page yeah people are just so mean on it that i'm like instagram and twitter is enough like the facebook

one i was like i don't want that shit on my mind now is like kids that like i went to high school with and then like my like grandma and like her friends uh and then like all my old best friends parents so like i i it's facebook for me is like weird because it's like 50 like weird like i don't you you really see people's true colors on facebook oh yeah you know who to like not be friends with in real life like just totally it's like everyone you went to high school with who has a kid now like if you stayed on the facebook platform you have a kid if you switched if you switched to instagram or twitter like you're either single or yeah just you don't have a kid i know that no i'm probably the only one i have an ex-husband

so yeah she left me on on red she responded uh i was wiling out i was like going out to my friend's nightclub every like every night and i saw this red i was like it's like one in the morning uh and i saw this redhead across he definitely stands out so i i was like it's like one in the morning uh and i saw this redhead across he definitely stands out so i i was like on facebook and i was like hey are you uh are you at this club right now and she downloaded the facebook app right club like and she's like and she i'll never forget because she was sitting at home with her mom in washington and she was like definitely not like period you know like nope and i was like oh shit okay well this is like my attempt at being smooth i was like well if you were here i'd give you my number

in person but you're not so here you go okay that was good i didn't she didn't text me that night or anything like that but like literally the next day she flew uh back to la from home because they just got done shooting season one and i get a text i was like working out and she texts me and was like hey it's madeline i'm like you know what's text. I was like working out. And she texts me and was like, hey, it's Madeline. I'm like, you know, what's up? And I was like, oh, what are you doing? And she's like, literally just landed in LA. And I was like, okay, cool.

You want to go to a movie tonight? And she was like, yeah. So we went to the movies. Oh, wow. And then, yeah, we hung out like every day after that. Well, I ship you guys, first of all. Thanks. Yeah.

Yeah. All of your pictures are so cute. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. This is new for me. How long have you guys been dating? A year and a half.

What day? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A year and a half. Well, they emailed in like 2015. No, no. We didn't email.

No, no. I just, I saw the script. It's just crazy that that's been like in a part of my life for that long already. Yeah. Like without even knowing it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Serendipity.

Uh-huh. Now you're kind of local, right? Like Riverside? Riverside, California. Born and raised. I've lived Riverside, Corona, Costa Mesa, Long Beach, LA. Every part of LA. Gotcha.

Like Venice, West Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. All that good stuff. Yeah. I was in West Hollywood. Hollywood. Now I'm in Marina.

Haven't lived downtown. Downtown, it was the first place I lived. She. I was in West Hollywood. Hollywood. Now I'm in Marina. Haven't lived downtown. Downtown, it was the first place I lived. She like half lives in Costa Mesa with her boyfriend. I basically live in Costa Mesa. Yeah. I love it. Costa Mesa was fun. I did that when I was like 17.

I moved there. That's fun. Yeah. Oh. I went to hair school. Really? Hair school. Costa Mesa, yeah.

Paul Mitchell. Shout out. Interesting. I love Paul Mitchell. To do what? Style? Color? I'm a licensed cosmetologist.

Wow. Really? Yeah. What's your favorite cosmetology thing to do? Oh, shit. Well, nothing now. Well, no, look. Check this out. I still, I'm like really good at hair. So like if I do a shoot or something and they give me a hair budget sometimes or if I get ready for a

carpet, I'll just do my own shit because I'm a guy. I don't need to do anything i just gotta get gotta have my dude like cut my hair and then i can style it and do all do all that i'm good and then madeline will make me uh blow dry her hair sometimes when uh she gets out of the shower really cute but i i've i've blown drying her i've what's the i've what's the i've blow dried what's the password i've blow dried. What's the password? I've blow dried. I've blown Madeline. No, I'm just kidding.

You've given her a blowout. Yeah, I've given her many a blowout before red carpets and like literally like I've done that. And that feels good to know that I can hold it down. Yeah. It just gets annoying. You're supposed to never do your friends or family's hair. They tell you this in hair school because. Really? Yeah. Like, okay. So say like we're friends or we're neighbors. Say you hold it down. Yeah. It just gets annoying. You're supposed to never do your friends' or family's hair. They tell you this in hair school because – Really?

Yeah. Like, okay. So say like we're friends, right? Or we're neighbors. Say you're my neighbor. Okay. And I start cutting your hair. Uh-huh.

And I give you a haircut. And then like I'm on a date and I just get home and it's like 10 p.m. And you're about to go out and you knock on my door and you're like, Travis, you missed the spot. Can you hit this really quick? I have a really important job. Yeah. You will never fully separate business from like, you know, lifestyle.

See, because my friend has been doing my hair for like 10 years. Really? Yeah. Well, maybe the rules changed. Maybe it was just you. Maybe I'm just too good at hair that people just never wanted me to stop doing it. Yeah. Well, we'll totally have to get your card for our next red carpet event.

I know. I have a whole hair Instagram. It's like your finsta. Yeah, it's like Travis MUA. I did have to do – so like when you take your cosmetology, when you go take the stay bored test, I fail three times by the way. Or twice before. I pass on my third time. Oh, wow.

Third time's a charm. Check this out. It has nothing to do with like skill. It has to do with like you're timed and it's like technical and it's like all the bullshit. It's like, you know, sterile. It's like, you know, permit like fake perms and like, how do you put the paper on? It's like old techniques from the twenties, like finger waves.

You have to do finger waves. Who the fuck wears, right? Yeah. You can say whatever you want. Fuck. Where's the finger wave? I mean, it's not the great Gatsby, right want. Who the fuck wears a finger wave? I mean, unless... This shit is not the great Gatsby.

Right? Unless you're going to a Gatsby party. Okay, yeah. That is like once a year. It's Halloween. It's about to come. No hairstylist is making a living off doing fucking finger waves. No.

Stop testing for that. Yeah, I'm 21 and don't even know what a finger wave is. Thank you. Okay, so it's like, you know those girls that like... It's like you put a ton of gel and then you, like, swoop around the hair. Like old Hollywood. Like, stuck to your face. Think of, like, a Lady Marmalade.

Okay. Marmalade. Like, all that shit. Yeah, okay. There you go. There's a lot of finger waves in that one. Wait, do people still get perms? That's a thing?

Dude, dude, dude. Oh, my God. This girl I went to high school with got a perm and we all made fun of her. Yeah. I didn't know that was still a thing. I thought that was, like, so, like, 80s and 90s what was her name kayla i'm sorry kayla if you're listening we're repairing relationships over here uh so yeah and oh you know what else uh fake nails i didn't know how to do acrylic nails so you could give me a

no i was horrible at that uh pedic, manicures, facials, and like basic esthetician shit. Wow. So I had to learn all of that just for my test. And then – because as a cosmetologist, it's really – if you go to a school like Paul Mitchell, it's like do you want to be a – do you want to cut or do you want to color? Yeah. Yeah. I like to cut. That's like what I wanted to do.

But I started my music project while – in my bedroom of my apartment in Costa Mesa while I was in hair school. Oh, wow. Yes. So what got you into music? Oh, what got me into it? I wanted to make music since I was like four years old. Yeah.

My grandpa got me an acoustic guitar when I was a little kid and just started banging around on that. And like I turned my like bed into a drum set. That's awesome. Yeah, and I was just in punk rock bands growing up, and then I got a MacBook when I was 17, and that's when I started to learn how to record myself because I had GarageBand on it.

Yeah. Love GarageBand. I didn't have a microphone. I just started recording songs. It was awful. That sounds like exactly what Shay used to do all the time with GarageBand. Your ex-husband? My ex-husband, yes.

Okay, we're just going to – yeah, ex-husband. Yeah, we were like – Man, I feel like I was in this with you guys. How long was it? It was like six and a half years. Damn. Yeah. My heart hurts for you.

Yeah. It's okay. You still have the ring? It's all good. It's too soon at this point. Do you still have the ring? I do. Tight.

Yeah, it's in a safe. As it should be. Yeah, I didn't know what to do. Tight. Yeah, it's in a safe. As it should be. Yeah, I didn't know what to do with it. I'm like, do I sell it? Do I take the diamonds out and make something else out of it? Do I just keep it? Do I give it back? But then I'm like, well, I paid for it, so I'm keeping it.

Oh, yeah, definitely going to keep it then. Well, and you know, that's a weird one, too, because it's not like you could give it to anyone. It's like, you don't want to give that. Like, if you have kids, like, later on with something, right? You don't want to give them that, because it's like, hey, here's... anyone. It's like you don't want to give that. Like if you have kids later on with something, right? You don't want to give them that because it's like, hey, here's – It's a piece of the past. But what do you do with it?

Maybe one of those things you call when you bury stuff in the ground. A time capsule. Oh. That could be kind of cool. That's a lot of money though to just put underground. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Hmm.

Well, next episode. Password has Dagan hole in the parents backyard send us a comment let us know what to we're auctioning off the ring to well you could sign it and then that's what I mean yeah the thousandth dm I honest to god thought about like

giving it to like a fan or someone because like but I was like you know I can't no but people have asked for my wedding photos you could make it into like art you could like like get like a piece of i don't know like something that like symbolizes like a new beginning yeah definitely sell it to bankski banks yeah he's huge i don't i don feel older than i am banksy it's fine okay will do you know he's a street artist do i know banksy yeah yeah yeah oh yeah come on okay he's a street artist yo check this out i used to live uh in mid like midtown and there was a banksy at

at the high school at la high there was one on the side of the high school and they painted over it like every day i used to drive to my house probably now uh okay uh the uh the little girl uh holding uh holding the balloon holding the balloon oh okay that was the thing that just got shredded at the auction for like one point how much was it 1.6 million dollars okay so what he did is when he made this piece of artwork, he put a shredder on the bottom. So in case it ever went to auction. It was like 10 years ago. Yeah. It would shred the second it was sold.

So someone – He built a shredder into the frame of this like amazing piece of art. That's crazy. So the second that someone bought it, someone was in the room and had like a trigger that like made it start shredding. So like someone hit a button and as soon as someone paid like 1.6, whatever the price was, the literally, like the canvas went beep and it started going

through the frame. No way. Shredding. And he posted on his Instagram a video of like the making of that piece of artwork and how he built the shredder and everything.

Oh my God. His whole goals are just like fuck with people. Clearly. And no one knows who he is. Yeah. Do you know who he is? I don't.

There's been a lot of speculation. Ooh. I'm gonna have to go on Reddit and do my research. There's Do you know who he is? I don't. There's been a lot of speculation. I'm going to have to go on Reddit and do my research. There's, you know, never mind. I'm not, yeah, whatever. Just go online. What do you know? You know something. No, nothing.

I just know, like, there's like hella like music. Yeah. Like there's been some like people think that he's part of music groups. I think that it's more than one person. Also, that's very, that's very possible. It's very possible. It's very possible. Do you follow him?

You know who I'm cool with is Mr. Brainwash. Okay. He's amazing. And if you watch that documentary, what is it? Exit Through the Gift Shop. He's in that a bunch. And there was a lot of speculation that he was Banksy for a while. He's not. But he's a genius.

Yeah, you can always find him in LA. I wonder if he'll ever come out. Come out. Have we seen Sia's face yet? Yeah, of course. Oh my god, I met her at Coachella one year. Really? Sorry, go.

Oh, okay. So I was backstage in my friend's dressing room. It was at one of those Coachella parties. Yeah. And there's a knock on the door. And I open it and she goes, Hi, I'm Sia. And I was shook. Really? really yeah when was this like two

years ago you never told me that yeah it was crazy yeah and she was really sweet she had on this like gardener's hat and we were like i was joking i was like oh my god you should wear that for your next performance to cover your face and she laughed at my joke i have a picture i'm trying to find it real quick of me sia harry styles and this is from like six years ago this before like sia was like releasing music well look she's always been making music she's an incredible songwriter but this is before like she put out like her first this sounds like it's back when i had a harry styles yeah because i was gonna say my picture with harry styles is from at least four or five years ago 2013 yeah it was before i, it was before I got... Or 2014. Yeah.

It was before I got married, but I was definitely in a relationship. It was 2014. Yeah, before the marriage. I know. Yeah. Okay, I can't find it. Good times. Could we probably Google it later? Yeah. Let me see. I bet if I write... Yeah, T-Military Styles. Let's see. Isn't that awesome

when you can just Google something about yourself sometimes? No, it's fucking... I never Google myself. If you're looking for it. I hate that shit. Like I needed to pull up a picture of me in my Jasmine costume. That was like four years ago. Okay, all right. And I just called Sheena Jasmine.

Hold on. So I got two that night. Okay. All right. So here's me. Shout out Julie Pilot who actually like is a huge part of why I have my Beats 1 show with Apple Music. Okay. So here's Julie Pilot. Here's Sia before she hit show with Apple Music. Okay. So here's Julie Pilot.

Here's Sia before she hit her face. Ah. Okay, there's me with gauges. I'll do it like this. So there's Sia. Oh my God. This is at the Troubadour. Wait, that's you?

Oh my God. That's Harry Styles. This is my homegirl, Amy Vaughn. Who looks like a baby. She was at Columbia Records. Okay, I'm going to Google this. And then check this out. Then this is me, one of the Haim sisters.

You know the band Haim? Oh, yeah. We know Haim. We've met them, yeah. And then Harry backstage. Wow. Because this was at one of Haim's first L.A. shows. Okay.

Yeah. It was tight. Yeah. It was tight. And yeah, it was insane. Because One Direction was signed to Columbia. I was signed to Columbia. Haim was signed to Columbia Records.

So it was all like a family affair. That's awesome. Yeah, it was great. So me and Harry Styles watched Haim from the bar at the Troubadour. And I'll never forget, I'd never seen... Because One Direction fans at that time were like just on a whole other – I don't want to talk about it. I know.

It was insane. And that night was crazy because like yeah, so that was the first night I met him. And then he – we literally had to get like an SUV, pull it up to the back of the Troubadour and like open it and put like the seats down in the back. And he jumped and like dove, like straight in, just like dove in the seats, slammed it, and drove off. And like girls were like running after. I was like, they don't even know he's in there. Don't worry, I'm not going to call you out. It was crazy.

It was crazy. I was like, wow, this is just a whole other level. I would not be surprised if I was there that night. No. I didn't know. Like, dude, because I was, you know, I wasn't listening to One Direction. Yeah. I just thought he was super cool too.

So it was just like, yeah, me off yeah off guard at that time we um were at one oak one night and one of my friends texted me and she goes one of those like i don't know like one direction people are here and i was like wait what who she was like i don't know and i'm like google them like tell me which one she was like um harry styles i was like on my way went because i was like oh my god my sister's gonna die but i got him to do a shout out video for you. She wasn't 21. You couldn't get in the bar. I don't like talking about that night because I was literally out like all night.

It was like before school. I was still in high school, obviously. But like driving around, like you try to like find out where they were. And I like had just given up and drove home. And then she met him. I literally, whatever. Yeah. It's fine.

And then I met Zaynn a couple times at break room. He's always around. I've met Liam. Niall a couple times. I ran into him at the Belmont like a month ago. I looked over and he's like standing next to me at the bar. I was like, oh, hello. They all like live here now.

Yeah. So it's like chill now. Yeah. Dude, those fans, I remember we went to the concert at the Rose Bowl. And anytime a different one would start singing, which is like every five seconds of their song the girls would just scream. I'm like, you can't even hear them singing. It was just like constant.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, so that was fun. I for sure had the same photoshopped front row seats for all three of those Rose Bowl shows. Oh yeah. Just saying. You photoshopped? She's so good at it.

Oh, nice. They're starting to catch on to it now though, I feel like. Well, you buy a real ticket just like high up and then you Photoshop it to a front row seat that's still open. A seat that's still like available. Wow. Except when we did that for Justin Bieber. It didn't work. You're incriminating yourself right now.

Whatever. They can't catch me. Yeah. Come for me Ticketmaster. Come at me. Yeah. At StubHub. At me.

They beat down the door right now. So you were around for MySpace Music Days. Oh, yeah. Who was in your top eight? Oh, man. I don't remember. I don't know. That was so long ago.

Yeah. Probably like Breathe Carolina just because I told those dudes. Well, wait. You go to Emo Night all the time. So what's your favorite like music from back then like that kind of music well it's look like brand new taking back sunday yep uh let's see cute is what we aim for i mean like old blink 182 boxcar racer uh midtown uh just weird – hello, goodbye, Head Automatica, Glassjaw. I kind of lost you halfway through.

Just like weird – I don't know. Just weird – like, yeah, weird shit. Yeah. Cartel. Okay. Yeah. Just stuff that's like 2000 – like 2001, Thrice. Yeah, just weird – I don't know, weird shit. weird shit yeah so wait what year did you graduate

high school uh well i was supposed to graduate in 2007 i got kicked out of high school uh middle of my sophomore year i started going to college what did you do nothing i went to nothing i swear uh check this out i i manipulated the system, okay? Okay. Just because like – what's up? I found this charter school. I got kids out of this school, middle of 10th grade. I found this charter school where I could go to community college and take classes. And college classes counted as double high school credits. Okay.

Yeah. Right. And so I finished. That's why I moved to Costa Mesa when I was 17 because – yeah. So it was cool because I was working at Starbucks and like a skate shop and like I could like work at a coffee shop from like 4 in the morning to like 2. I just didn't – I just like did all my like schoolwork at home. And then I went to class for like an hour a day, two days a week and finished super fast. Yeah.

And then like yeah, I took a couple of college courses. I was like in some art classes and then I was working at Starbucks and then this girl came in with a cosmetology book and i was like what is that you know she's like yeah hair school and i was like let me see that i was like i could do this this is easy yeah i was like and i could have like my face tattooed and like make my own schedule and be my own boss i was like done now wait do you have a forehead tattoo right here it's in your hair oh okay it's red yeah gotcha fuck the haters yeah yeah for the Wait, do you have a forehead tattoo? Mm-hmm. Right here. It says FTH. Oh, okay. It's red. Gotcha.

Fuck the haters. Yeah. Yeah. For the homies. Yeah. Feed the homeless. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, free the horses. Whatever you want. How many of those have you come up with? It never stops. Forever the highest. Yeah. Did it hurt?

No. Weird. No. It's like getting Botox, I'm sure, right? Got it in 10 minutes. And Jeffree Star was there. Oh. We love him. Yeah. Was he getting his face tattooed at the same time yes it was 10 and and you know what he bet me uh the like they i wasn't gonna i was like call a tattoo artist over i'll get my face tattooed like no you

won't no you won't no you won't and i was like all right yeah yeah i will and literally like they like started tattooing everyone i was like all right fuck it and just did it yeah i have my face tattooed yeah it's my eyebrows but oh you i was saying you do how did that hurt um they pretty much numbed it all the way but watching it done like at the first time i had the actual like tattoo and then the second time she did it with literally a razor blade and like they're slicing your face like open with like the little hair strokes but my eyebrows are perfect without makeup so i got my palms tattooed yeah those fade yeah yeah so how many tattoos do you have can you count no i look like my arm is like is that just one see that's where i'm like i have i i think i lost count too i think i'm around like 18 spots on my body but like these ones I got

like I got this separate than this and I just don't have my back tattooed and my right arm that's what I was gonna ask what part of your body other than my back the rest of your face my back and my right arm so your right arm has nothing no I got like tattoos on my hand and like on my wrist but like I'm waiting I'm gonna do this whole and like yeah on the side yeah but i'm gonna do this this whole arm later so no tramp stamp no not yet not yet yeah when i'm an old man i'll like when i'm like 60 or 65 or something i'll get my whole back tattooed yeah you're all wrinkly or i don't what else am i gonna do yeah true you're gonna run out of space yeah you're gonna like get fat just make more space do you have anything tattooed for madeline uh no no no plan on it for like ever like in the future oh oh well i have something that will we want to do that i want her to tattoo

me oh that's cool yeah okay see my boyfriend has a tattoo gun but i don't trust him i don't want to do any like i would never like, I don't want to tattoo, like, names or anything. No. No. No. But, like, if you guys have, like, a matching one together or something like that. Well, she doesn't have any tattoos.

Oh. Yeah. So, I'll be on my own on that one. Yeah. See, she got lucky. You didn't get any matching tattoos with your ex-husband, right? No. That's good.

No, because he doesn't have any. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've never, I've, like, I've, like, hooked up with guys with tattoos yeah yeah i've never i've like i've like hooked up with guys with tattoos but i've never dated a guy with tattoos and it's funny because i love tattoos but i've never never dated one i've hooked up with two guys that had the exact same blink 181 tattoo blink 181 i meant see i lost track of what i was saying and then i was like wait she does love blink 182 how many times have you seen them and then I was like, wait, what am I saying? You know who Banksy is, but you don't know who Blink-182 is. Stop. I literally love Blink-182. Show your age, Courtney.

She does love Blink-182. How many times have you seen them? Like 15. Yeah. I just am stupid. That's all. I just played with Travis Barker at Emo Night. Really? No way.

Wait, which Emo Night? Emo Night Day, right? In Long Beach? Emo Night Day, the festival. It was at the shrine. Oh, that's right. What do you mean Long Beach? No, they did an Emo Night in Long Beach recently.

What? Yeah, I just got invited to it. was a thing but i do remember the shrine when i was out of town because i was supposed to go to that it was really fun too it was really fun nice if you could make music with anyone who would like I don't know. That's such a hard question. Or like tour with anyone. My first tour was with Busy Bone from Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, which was like incredible. You have a Bone Thugs tattoo, right? Yeah.

So that was like I showed him that shit and then we hung out every day on that tour. That's awesome. Yeah. That was pretty cool. Yeah. And like, yeah, going to soundcheck and like hearing him like, you know, sing crossroads and like first. Oh my God.

Right. That was junior high for me, aging myself. Dude, I'm saying I grew up on that shit. So like, I was like, dude, like I have my fucking chest. Like, look at this shit. You know? Huh. I don't know.

See, I'm, I'm going to say like, I want to make music with like, like Andre three, that like weird, I don't know. Andre 3000. Yeah. But I don't even know what we would make. He wouldn't want to make music with me. I tried to get him on one of my songs on time.

Uh, and, and we sent it to, to his, his team and he listened to his like, and like, he actually like responded and was like, yo,

I fuck with this. He's like, I just have like no time to hop on it, but he actually was like, I fuck with this. Yeah. And he didn't have to say that yeah

and then I got T.I. on the song so oh that's dope yeah it's dope super dope I like your song with Black Bear thanks

I like Black Bear what was the one we were listening to in the car I was like oh my god I don't see it's so weird because like

I haven't released music since I think last year. That was a lot of questions I got is are you coming out with new music and when? That was like the majority. Yeah, and I get asked this a lot too and it's just like when it's right because here's the thing. It's like I put out – I was like that's all I did for so long and like look, I'm in the studio. Now my focus is like I've been writing and producing for other artists, which has been super fun.

Cool. And it's cool because I get to go in the studio every day and I get to literally like say a whole bunch of different things. I get to like experiment with a whole bunch of different things and I don't have this like, is this exactly how I want to come across to the world? I don't have this like pressure. Yeah. It's like – I don't't know i just get to go and like just make music and it's it's great like that and that in itself like over the last year of me doing that has made me fall in love with music like in a whole different way that i've

never had before and not only that just like the consistency at which i'm making it has just like turned me into like a better artist yeah um so yeah that's cool i want to release music when uh you know i have a consistent body of work um and i have some time that i can actually go play the songs like once i release them yeah because i'm doing some like so much different shit that's like really hard to fucking separate everything do you think your music's really changed over the past few years yeah i mean look when i first started making music it was like to piss people off and it was just like to like say the most random, obscene, vulgar,

fucking fucked up shit I could. So we listened to a full genre of music on the way here. Yeah. So we listened to like your new stuff. That's when we did like the Black Bear song. But no, the one you were thinking of was,

what is it called? I Got This. She Got It. She Got It. Yeah, that one. That was the one we, she's like, that was the one we used to bump all the time.

But I feel like you just, it's like a complete different sound. a complete different sound yeah yeah i mean look it's still in my head and no it's cool because like now it's like that music that was like literally like someone's first songs that like you know i put out like yeah it's just like looking at old yearbook photos oh god i hate that if i get tagged in a photo of myself like freshman year of high school i'm like i can't believe there's a trail of how ugly but here's the way it's like yeah it's like and like even if like i watched those videos i'm like damn i was so young and i was like damn like yeah you know but like people like i can't trash it and i can't say that like that shit sucks because people love that shit uh-huh because Oh, totally. People like, you know, that like, whatever, like however,

you know, old, I think that song may be like people fucking love it, you know, still. And so like, I have to respect that. And like,

I have to like honor that. Well, and you hear a song, you know, like remind you of a specific location in a specific time. And like your life, my ex-husband in the truck. Jesus Christ.

Back to this. Those are good memories though. Like he's the one. I'm glad. Yeah. I'm glad. I'm glad the good memories are related to me. No, it was. A lot of our good memories are around music. You didn't play it when you were signing the papers.

No. No, he introduced me to... Yeah, yeah, you did. You did do that. Here's the one who introduced me to Mac Miller, Hoodie Allen. RIP to Mac. Yeah, I know know it's been a crazy year yeah you were up for uh woody the same year he won right no that was uh machine gun kelly oh okay yeah i thought there was like one year oh yeah was mac uh was that

the year that was he uh i thought machine gun Gun Kelly was like the year after or before. No, it was my – it was because I remember watching that and it was like down – it was me and him because there was like polls and shit. We could watch it and it was like so crazy. It was like this close. It was like 1%. But I went and like hugged him as soon as he won it and then he shot a video. You can go and watch music videos for the Wild Boy remix, which French Montana's on and all that shit. And in the video, it's me coming up to him at the Woody's right after we won and hugging him and shit.

And we've been homies ever since. Cool. So that was the first time that we actually got to meet in person too because we were talking over Twitter and all that shit forever, dude. What do you think about all the Eminem beef with him? I think it's fun yeah i yeah i texted him when all that shit was going on yeah let's go yeah that video like i mean i don't even know how many times we watched it we just kept like watching it over and over again yeah it's cool i mean you know and yeah you know kelz is he does not just talk shit just talks like i've you

know that fool's that fool's real i fuck with colt like colson is a real dude yeah he's a real dude oh my god the last time i saw him live you know those giant jibs that they have to like put the the show on the live screens he literally started crawling up the jib and was like hanging on to it oh my god yeah it was crazy i was like i was like it was cool yeah i still remember that performance totally and I go to a lot of shows. So it was sick. Oh my God. You've been in way more shows than I've ever been to. I was like, she's a little music one.

Did you have like a plan B if you weren't going to do music? Hair. Cosmetology. Yeah. But I mean, it was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never, what's funny is like the day I went and took my license – I got

my license for the state board test. I got my license and then went on tour and never did hair again. Yeah. So literally. Yeah. I mean you didn't need to. Wait. So when did you start acting?

Because you said you auditioned for Riverdale. Yeah. Well, that's the crazy thing is like I actually acted first like when I was like 13 to like 15 and like I did a couple of commercials and like I did like the short film. And then for the short film, I played a drummer and I got my ears pierced and that was like 13 to like 15 and I did a couple of commercials and like I did like the short film. And then for the short film, I played a drummer and I got my ears pierced. And that was like pretty much like me just like like conning my way into getting plugs because I was like, oh, fuck, I got my ears pierced now and I can stretch my ears. And then so once I started stretching my ears, it was kind of like, all right, you got music

or acting, you know, and I was like, fuck that. Like I want to fucking tattoos and all this shit. Yeah. you know and i was like fuck that like i want to have fucking tattoos and do all this shit yeah uh and then 2015 uh i went to i was on tour with ray schremer in new york and i became friends with pete davidson uh and he was like on on snl and um he invited me to go to snl to a taping and so i did and that night was kevin hart oh nice and it was crazy and then yeah kevin's manager knew my my music manager and we were all at dinner and stuff and he came up and was like you know what are you doing and uh i was like you know i'm a musician he's like come and

see me when you're back in la and so because i didn't think i'd go audition with like you know having tat like my neck tattooed yeah all that shit, my hands tattooed. And he's like, dude, you can fucking totally do this shit. And so I kind of fell in love with acting again and went – Riverdale was like – I think – I went on one audition for the show Vice Principals that was on HBO. It's a Danny McBride show. They loved me but said – obviously it takes place like in a high school. Uh, and so she's like, hold on. And then I think Riverdale is my second audition. I didn't get it. The first, the casting director of the first one said, I have this other show called

flaked, which is amazing. Brought me back. And that was, I booked it. Yeah. So it was really cool. It's with Will Arnett. We shot it in Venice. It's all about venice beach yeah i wish i could go on three auditions and book the third one right it was really it was crazy uh and then yeah i got to play this coffee shop owner named stefan so it was like starbucks yeah starbucks travis came back it was like dude it was all my worlds merged because like it was yeah i had like a coffee shop like literally we ripped off intelligentsiaia. We bought all the shit that was Intelligentsia. The shot – like we were the first show to shoot on Abbot Kinney. So like I was shooting across the street from my old house.

Oh, wow. And they would like block off the street and shit. It was like – it was insane. And the whole show took place in Venice. Yeah. It was a really fun experience. Shout out to Will Arnett. Yeah.

They shoot a lot of things in Abbot Kinney. Yeah. Now. Yeah. Now it's, it's, it's like a huge, it's a huge spot. And I feel like there's more shows like about, you know, Venice and LA and stuff like that now. I was birding down Abbot Kinney today to the Adidas store and I like had to like emergency

stop because there's literally like a photo shoot going on and they're like, leave a path, leave a, I was like, sorry. But I'm like, that's so LA. It was just nice because because we would like break and i'd like go to gelina for lunch yeah i know everyone listening is like what the fuck is that it's a really nice like cool little restaurant and i don't know how we can't even gelina i've never what dude how is it the g don't G-J- Jelena, like Justin and Selena's ship name. I think it's G-L-I-N-A. And then they got, check it out, for lunch too, they got the spot next door. It's called GTA and it's Jelena to go.

It's like, that's, yeah. And you can like dip and like go eat outside and be all hipster. Okay. Really fun. We actually shot a scene in the restaurant too, which is cool. Really? That's cool. And then check this out. After the show came out, I went to go eat there and I was sitting at the bar and randomly

these two older women started talking about the show. It was so weird. Yeah. Oh, you want to know why that happened? Why? It's because we live in a simulation. Oh, totally. Yeah.

Yeah. I think so. Elon Musk confirmed it. Mm-hmm. I trust totally. Yeah. Yeah. You almost confirmed it. I trust him. Yeah. There's too many weird things with like you're talking about something and then it like pops up on an Instagram ad and it's like, I didn't even Google it. Yeah.

But it's, it's. No, that's because your phone's listening. What about when it's stuff that you think about and you don't look up? Uh huh. Well, I mean, here's my thing is that you've probably have looked it up or have seen it and like clicked on something that caused you to think about it. I don't know. It's weird. Go watch Shane Dawson's little plug here.

We're going to go watch Shane Dawson's conspiracy theory videos. Shout out to Shane Dawson. Yeah. Wait, you guys just shot that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. So she works with Team 10, Erica Costell, and the Paul brothers and all that.

So yeah, we just did the whole YouTube series with Shane Dawson. But wait, I saw – this is exciting that you were with David Dobrik and I'm a big YouTube fan. Are you guys friends? Yeah. Shout out to David Dobrik. He's awesome. That's really cool. Yeah, he's cool.

He's done my Beats 1 show twice. Okay. So yeah, tell me about this show. Is it like a podcast? Is it on camera? It's not a podcast. No, it's a multimedia show on Beats 1, which is part of Apple Music. And I get to play music.

I get to have all types of guests from actors, athletes, musicians, artists, celebrities, YouTubers. I've had everyone from UFC fighters to Nick Jonas and then Lil' Gnar. My girlfriend's been on.id dobrik's been on uh it's a pretty like fun uh and fast pace show it's mondays through thursdays it's on from 4 to 5 p.m awesome on your iphone cool yeah uh and how did that get started well i started i had a show in 2015 with Beats when they launched. It was a request show. It was called Request of Travis Mills. I did that for eight months. It was incredible.

Shout out to Zane Lowe. He's been like a huge mentor to me. Yeah. And he's just a legend. Like that guy is just a fucking legend in broadcasting and just as a tastemaker in music. And he approached me in 2015 and was like, yo, dude, you need your own show. I was just supposed to go in there and do like 30-minute artist breaks. Like, hey, what's up?

It's T-Mills. Here's some of my favorite songs. And I had done so much radio promo and shit throughout my whole career. This has been the easiest part of it all, sitting down and talking to people. It's not hard. I love doing this. It's really not hard. Sitting down is my favorite part.

Yeah. Sitting down thing is hard for me because I have ADD. So I'm just like going everywhere. Like at all moments that I'm standing, I'm thinking about the next time that I could sit. Oh really? Yeah. I love sitting. Oh, anyways, sorry. No. Yeah. Uh, and then, yeah, you wanted to give me my own show. My show was like two hours a day. It was live. Um, so, you know, very little room for error and, you know, I cut my teeth doing that and then I left and, i wanted to start uh you know at the same time like i just dropped a single with ti called young and stupid and i was on tour and i was going to south

america and i was shooting the netflix show and so i was like juggling so much shit yeah uh and i was like yo i need to chill i need to focus like on my artist ship for a little bit um and then last year uh i had shot uh a pilot for a TV show that like I created like a multimedia show. Oh, nice. And I brought it to Jimmy Iovine and then it just like wasn't the right time. And Zane, my friend Julie Pilot who I talked about earlier, they had circled back and we had started having some conversations again. And they were like, hey, let's do this. And I was like, cool.

I'd always loved them. And I have like an Apple logo tattooed on my hand. Oh, yeah. I got this when I was 18 just because I've loved Apple products. What was your first tattoo? Did I ask you that already? Stay Young tattooed on my legs. It was going to be Thug Life but I got Stay Young. Last minute.

No regrets. No regrets. How old were you? 15. Traded a sidekick. Nice. Yeah.. How old were you? Fifteen. Traded a sidekick. Nice. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Sidekicks. Wait, that's so funny. You don't know what that is. No, she doesn't know what that is. Okay, I've had a phone since the second grade, so I know what a sidekick is. Yeah. The first phone she had, it was like this little green thing. It looked like a monster, and it had like, call mom, call dad, call 911.

Oh, and call sister, call home. I had five buttons. Oh, whatever. It looked like Shrek. It did. and then from then i went to a flip phone that was third grade fourth grade i got the envy sixth grade i got the blackberry freshman year i got the iphone yep damn yeah i got like the iphone one when i was like yeah 18 really yeah i didn't even switch to iphone until it was like the 5s i was like until siri

came out yeah i was team blackberry oh no like hardcore blackberry like the 5S. I was like until Siri came out. Oh, you were late. I was team Blackberry. Oh, no. Like hardcore Blackberry. You looked like the type. I jumped ship. I was like Apple, what? Phone? Done.

Yeah. Done. He was like handed over with the Apple logo on his hand. Well, I was just so good, like especially with my nails, but typing on the, with the buttons, like I was just so fast at it. And I'm like, how am I going to do this on a touchscreen without my nails? You'll manage. Oh, I got it down instantly. You've evolved.

Yeah. Totally. Now your fingers just have nails on like well yeah now she drives everyone crazy with that noise do it oh if i'm typing really fast i know that noise oh my god yeah the the tapping yeah no yeah so but i mean i can also not do that i just have to type slightly slower yeah update top of the fifth three three just saying it's world series when you guys listen to this it'll be over but anyway i'm gonna put in your predictions now right yeah i mean dodgers

are gonna win i'm going to game three so i got my jersey at home yeah they sent me one with my name on it last year nice i gotta write yeah well check it out i wore it last year though and they lost so it's like a fuck i might just leave my closet. I might just not pull it out again. So two years ago, they were in the playoffs, lost to the Cubs. Last year, made it to the World Series, lost to the Astros. This year, they can't make it to the World Series and lose again. I can't believe that was a year ago. I know.

What? Yeah. Already World Series again? The Red Sox are like the best team, but I have faith in my Doyers. So I saw you at the MTV TV and movie awards. Oh yeah. Yeah. How was that?

Did you have fun? It was good. Yeah. I was just, um, you know, just being supportive. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Those things are, those things are fun. Yeah.

We had a good time. Yeah. It was cool. We didn't win. Damn Kardashians. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I'm like, obviously, but we're still up. We're up for a people's choice award in a couple of weeks. And that's Vanderpump rules. Yeah. Oh, damn. Okay. I'm like, obviously. But we're still up. We're up for a People's Choice Award. Congrats. In a couple weeks. Thank you. And that's Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. So we just finished shooting our season seven.

That'll start airing, I'm assuming, in December. So hold on. When you got married and stuff, was that all on the show? Oh, yeah. And the divorce. The engagement, marriage, divorce. Oh, so I could go watch it? Please don't.

Season three? Please don't. What season? Episode 12, season three. Just kidding. Yeah, you're like, here's all the recommended watching you can find it on demand here's my storyline skip over these episodes yeah oh my god thankfully like we get the episodes on wednesday so by monday like i can like tell my friends like you know don't watch monday's episode or like i have a question no i have to explain this just because this fascinates me yeah okay so like it's like real right yes okay so like yeah do you ever okay like when people are talking shit about people in those like uh in the in the in like those yeah like our

confession room yes y'all like bash the fuck out of people when you guys see each other in person what is that is it because if someone if i watch the shit right I'm like oh the new episode came out let me blow I want to see what they said and they're like fuck Travis he's a bitch yeah next time I see someone I'm smashing a glass in their face you know sometimes like it will bother me because I'm like dude really but it's like also at the end of the day we're all making a television show for entertainment sometimes I might say things a little out of the norm because it's funny. And I'm like, whatever. I'm just doing my job.

But I try and be nice. But if I'm not getting along with someone, like, guaranteed, I'm going to talk shit. Oh, but also I'd like to add in that it's like airs so far in – or six months behind. It films so far in advance. Oh, from your real life. Uh-huh. So, like, some of the drama, it's, like, kind of delayed. It's like you're not going to get mad at what someone said about you six months ago it filmed so far in advance oh yeah so like some of the drama it's like kind of delayed it's like you're not gonna get mad at what someone said about you six months exactly

like a couple of the girls who like i'm not friends with maybe at the beginning of summer who i'm friends with now it's like i'm not gonna get mad the first few episodes when they're talking shit about me because i'm like it's cool i was talking shit about you too yeah but yeah there are certain things that people say though that like last year. So I do dabble in music as well, but more for fun, not career, not trying to take it seriously. I cannot sing. I can carry a tune. I have some good songs, but I'm working.

Yeah. I'm working on an EP right now, which is fine. But where am I going with this? Oh, so one of the girls last year had me come into the studio and wanted me to like record over her voice. And it's like we have very different vocals. And then I see like an interview by and she's like, the bitch is tone deaf. And I was like, that was so mean. You could have said like she can't really hit the right key or like something like you're my friend.

And so like things like that, that like I do take that personal. Like you didn't say that to be entertaining. You said that to be a bitch. And like that hurt my feelings. But we're now damn i'm sorry yeah no it's all good so okay like all right so like you have your whole life like on television everything so like when you meet a dude does is he like yo i watched you like see that's so i'm touching subject you know so i'm single for the first time since like the show's been on this year. Congrats.

Thank you. Yeah. Totally by choice. I'm not like sad and lonely. I'm very happy being single. She has two cats, but. But I've had two cats since I was married. It's starting to shift now.

It's starting to slow. Okay. No, my favorite thing to do is like when someone new comes to my house, like, I mean, girls don't really care, but like if like one of my or, like, a guy I'm seeing or whatever comes over and, like, the two cats will immediately, like, come up. They're, like, dogs. And they'll greet you. And I'm, like, well, there's Penny and Salem.

I'm, like, where are the other two? I'm, like, they're probably, like, you have four cats? But, no, just the two. I don't. No, I'm not the crazy cat lady. But, yeah, so this season, like, I go on dates and whatnot. And it's been different but fun but also it's like I'm very anti like any dating apps or anything like that because I'm like also like

I am a public figure I am on a very popular television show like how do I know this guy on Raya who swiped right like actually is genuinely interested in me maybe he just wants to bang me maybe he's trying to get on my show. So I've been very careful with dating. And I don't know that as long as the show is on, I'll ever get in another relationship because I've had two failed because of the show. So, yeah. And it's hard because then it's like you're seeing things back or it's like I'm venting to my girlfriends about my marriage. And then it's like then he sees it. He sees it. Yeah, I always wonder that.

Yeah. Yeah, it hasn't worked out for me. So I'm just staying single while Vanderpump Rules is on. Unless, like, I find a guy who is, like, all about it. Oh, shit. You know where we just went? The puppy spot. Oh, Vanderpump Dogs.

Yes. Yeah. Just went there. Did you get a dog? No, listen. All right, look. Because, like, I have a dog. I rescued him from South LA shelter.

His name's Fig. He's really cute. He's like an angel. We want another dog. I rescued him from South LA shelter. His name is Fig. He's really cute. He's like an angel. We want another dog. But we want to rescue dogs. And so yeah. But if I go to a shelter, it just breaks my heart. You can't.

Because like, well, no, not only that, but like you can't like leave there without a dog. No. Because like you know those dogs are screwed. Uh-huh. Okay. Somewhere like that, right, where like you know those dogs are all getting adopted. They're all going to amazing homes because, like, they go to your house. Yeah.

They, like, check all your shit out. You know, you have to be, like, vetted and shit. So it's like, I could go there, know that I'm rescuing a dog, but if I don't, that dog's going to be cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that was my first time. And that was my first time.

Yeah. We love her. Yeah. Every time I'm there, I'm like, I'll hold the puppy, and I'm like, you're really cute, but I'm not going to take you. Someone else you will make very happy. I fell in love with two dogs. And the woman working was like, oh, they love you. Oh, I'm sure we could expedite that application.

It was fun. And then when we were in there, someone told me that it was from the show. Yeah. Okay. That's cool. How were the Emmys, by the way? It was really cool. We went to Milan literally the morning after.

Oh, my God. How fun. It was a blur. It was really cool. Yeah, I'd never been. Yeah. Yeah. Nice.

I've been to Milan once. We actually got lost for like six hours in Milan because none of our phones were working. We couldn't find Wi-Fi anywhere. Like every little coffee shop and everything. And then it's like dark. We're trying to figure out how to get to Lake Como. Oh, wow. We made it, but it was like – I've been to Milan before.

It was my first time at the Emmys. Milan – so you went to Lake Como? Oh, yeah. First time Emmys. Sorry. You went to Lake Como. Yes. Amazing, right?

We found it. Incredible? Uh-huh. Like the most – did you eat there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. The most amazing food. We took a boat over to Bellagio and then we had lunch there. Like the Vegas Bellagio? No, like the real Bellagio. Yeah, like there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We took a boat over to Bellagio, and then we had lunch there.

Like the Vegas Bellagio? No, like the real Bellagio. Yeah, like where? It was a joke, guys. But, okay, first time at the Emmys. That's exciting. Yeah, it was really cool. I mean, look, I didn't do anything.

I didn't win an Emmy. But still, just to go. Your caption was really cute, though. What was it? Oh, the trophy? Yeah, that was cute. You were like, one of us is getting a trophy tonight, and one of us is holding a trophy. Oh, that was an MTV one. Oh, frick. Because she won an MTV award. Well, still, it was really cute though what was it oh the trophy yeah you were like one of us is like getting a trophy tonight and like one of us is holding oh that's mtv one oh because she won an mtv award well still it was really cute whatever award show it was yeah thanks thanks i try to go hard with the

captions sometimes yeah yeah sometimes well i mean i don't really post that much yeah just because i don't care you're not an influencer i just don't give a shit it's like if i have a cool photo i'll post it but i'm not like know, trying to post every day at like a certain time. And like, you know, be like, new photo, go comment. Yeah. Right? Everyone go comment blue emojis. I hate that.

There's like a couple guys I follow who are friends. So I don't want to unfollow them. But they'll literally post on their Insta story like new photo and like cover their face. Oh, dude. And I'm just like, you don't need to announce. I've known you for six years you hang out every day or when people try to get comments and they're like spell your name in the comments without getting interrupted so if you get interrupted they have to re-comment and it's a way to rack up like thousands of comments and i'm like i just who

thought of this and why are you following the trend i have heard you my instagram for the most part i'm just like can you do make it cool like i do social media management too yeah so i got off instagram for like the first six months of this year i deleted the app completely from my phone i just wanted nothing to do with it i was living in vegas doing a show and i just wanted to live my life out there so i had her doing it full time for me because i'm like it can really like fuck with you like just it's constant negativity and judgment and i'm like i don't care what strangers say but after a point it's like okay i don't need to keep reading this like it just gets annoying i run like six accounts so yeah it was fine just another one don't read your comments no and that's

why since i got it back on my phone i have it like tucked away in a folder like on my like third swipe over page so i don't like look at it every day and then it's like when i check it though then i'll have a bunch of dms and i'm like oh now i have to actually read these because i don't like look at it every day. And then it's like when I check it though, then I'll have a bunch of DMs and I'm like, oh, now I have to actually read these because I don't check them often. Life's hard. Yeah. Life is hard for you. You know, first world problems. Okay, wait.

I have a question for you. Okay. So I used to want to get into – this is off subject. Whatever. We're starting over. New subject. So I used to want to get into tour management and I wanted to know your most favorite and least favorite parts of tour because i've been

on one tour and it was like really messy but least favorite part least favorite part of tour is coming home okay because you just like amass so much shit like if you're on a tour bus like you just you don't care like you're just dirty and you just like buy a bunch of clothes at least for me i bought shoes like every city i went okay yeah so you just amass a bunch of shit and it's your home. And then like, you know, if you like, who wants to go, who wants to go home? That just sucks. Yeah. It's like, it's my least favorite part. So it's still a positive.

I know because I mean like I used to get like post-tour depression where like you get home and like you don't have a schedule all day, every day and you don't have anything to do and you feel like very like just like useless you feel like a piece of shit yeah because you almost get addicted to it every night like you know you know at like 9 p.m you're gonna go on stage you're gonna get this high of like you know performing and you're gonna get adrenaline you're gonna meet fans and then you're gonna like you just get into a routine on the road like the craziness becomes normal and then you get home and then normal is crazy and then like all of your friends and family like you've been gone for three

months but it feels like a week and everyone's been home for three months and like lived three months of life. Right. You're like, what's up? Yeah. Yeah. So that's the, I feel like that's the weirdest part. Yeah.

Um, uh, my favorite part is just waking up and I know it sounds super cliche, but like waking up in new city every day just cause like, yeah, I like, like waking up, going fine, like good coffee, for great food like uh it just sucks like yeah if like there's shitty weather or yeah anything like that but um yeah traveling's fun i've yeah i traveled enough for like two lifetimes uh where's your favorite place you've been toronto's one of my favorite cities ever i'm half really that's where i want it okay i want to go there so i went on one tour for a month i mean it was a short tour for an entire month but yeah i was just interested to hear like what you thought because i love toronto that was cool especially since i wasn't 21 yet i was legal in the one yeah i was legal in the one canadian

city we went to but and it was really awesome waking up in a new city because you'd sleep on the tourist tour bus but the hardest part for me was like actually sleeping on the bus i couldn't do that everyone kept me up all night i can sleep anywhere yeah easy for me yeah i need darkness and like silence and that doesn't like your eye mask yeah um so obviously you have good fashion thank you who are some of like your favorite brands or designers um well i went to we went to milan with uh prada prada flows out there so yeah i got a shout out prada uh i wore prada to the emmys i wore prada to the mtv awards um yeah so definitely uh prada let's see moncler uh i have a great relationship with moncler which like in the wintertime they just come in handy. And they're – Palm Angels, my friend Francesco, who he actually – like I met him through Montclair because he designs for Montclair as well and then started this brand like on the side and it took off.

Oh, cool. Yeah. It's huge. Yeah. Marcello Berlon, which he owns New Guards Group, which like manufactures and distributes Heron Preston, Off-White, Unravel, his brand, County of Milan, and Palm Angels. So it's all like brothers and shit. Love Off-White. Yeah, Off-White, Virgil, Heron's making amazing shit.

I used to be in like – I'm a huge like Hetty fan. He's not at St. Laurent anymore. He's at Celine now. I'm talking like really fast, huh? No, not at saint laurent anymore he's at celine now i'm talking like really fast huh no not at all i talk really fast uh let's see balenciaga's uh making incredible shit yeah i gotta get rid of all my triple s's totally i gotta get rid of all of them though it's just because they're just too popular now yeah oh yeah when they started getting sold in nordstrom's you gotta be like right everything your I don't know. I have to rethink your closet.

Yeah. Oh, dude. Well, now I just like – I'm like such a fanatic about shit. When I like it, I'll just go and buy like every one. And I'm really into like collecting things, like sets. Like if I know there's like 10 of something, I'll just – I'm weird. You want all 10. OCD. Like I can't have half a set.

Can't decide which one. No. I just can't. Yeah, no. Or if like a cool shirt comes in three colors, I'll just buy them all because I'm like, fuck, I'll make decide which one. No, I just can't. Yeah, no. Or if like a cool shirt comes in three colors, I'll just buy them all. Cause I'm like, fuck,

I'll make the wrong decision. I'll find my favorite later. Do you have every color off white belt? I have the green one. I have the red one and I have a clear one. Oh, I bought my boyfriend the clear one. That one's sick.

Yeah. That one's my favorite. Uh, but Madeline just steals all my shit anyway. So she wears it. Yeah. That's as she should. Wearing men's clothes is so in. Yeah. Oh, I do i do it all the time he's making cool shit right now too i shot

uh i shot with him in milan oh which is dope nice yeah that's really cool what was the uber question you wanted to ask him oh yeah did you really get hit by a self-driving uber no that was a joke oh i wanted to hear what i was like wait what that was the day that that news report came out oh Oh, okay. Yeah, and everyone's like, do you fucking asshole, dude? That's fucking fucked up. But what I say, caption game. Caption game.

Caption game is so strong. You know, that's true. Yeah. You learn so much about someone from their Instagram captions. I've been trying. I've been doing better, I think. I used to not care. Look, I used to just be like, fuck, just no caption.

Black emoji. Just no caption. Black heart emoji. Yeah, exactly. And then now I'm like, damn, I could actually like – I could make this fun and you like – you're just like – I chuckle a little bit. Yeah. Part-time comedian.

Kind of. I've been trying to be more witty with my Instagram captions. It just needs to come natural. Yeah. But I think like the Iceland ones, I think I did pretty good with most of those. Yeah. Captions are hard. Mm-hmm.

They are. They are. So I have some fan questions that came in. Okay. You're clearly very tall, but someone, Danielle Dean, wants to know how tall. 6'4". Oh, okay. Do you still talk to Davis?

Yeah, of course. He lives at my house. That's Emily-an. Cool. I already asked you about the tattoo from Madeline. Who are your favorite out of her co-stars that you've met oh uh i love her whole cast i get along with everyone on the cast yeah are you salty with cole spouse since he stole your part no not at all well you guys wouldn't have been together in the show anyways so no yeah i mean i can't yeah i mean it's cole spouse i

can't be like that i can go be a serpent that would be sick yeah maybe you could get like a guest star right for like one episode you could totally be a serpent that would be sick yeah maybe you could get like a guest star right for like one episode you could totally be a serpent probably i think she should arrange that yeah do you watch riverdale uh i've seen uh yeah so like yeah of course i've seen like religiously like have you seen every episode like no no no no no no uh but i also like you know i'm like like you know i go to set and like see what like i get to like see what like they're working on and stuff like that so i kind of like you know it's weird like my knowledge of the show is in pieces because i'll know something from season three but then like see like an episode from season two and then be like oh wait oh shit yeah uh see that's how i feel with

her show because i'm like living in it when she's filming with it and then i don't like really watch it when it's on tv because it like is so like later and it just doesn't make sense because you know what's really happening and then well madeline yeah when she does like the live tweeting and stuff she's either in vancouver or like they go and like do it all together so it's like she's not gonna watch it like twice right yeah she's not gonna come home and watch it yeah i told her that i joked i was like yeah one day like when we have nothing to do, we just got to watch like all – Just binge all of it. Every single one. Yeah. And I'm just going to like, yeah, just like turn over to you and quote lines.

Has she watched the show that you're on? Flaked? Yeah. Yo, when we met, I think she lied and she was like, oh, yeah, Flaked. I love that show. You're like, yeah, you've definitely never heard of it. No, no. She lied.

Yeah, she lied. I think she was like, yeah, it's so funny. And then like it turned out like her dad watched it i think she was like yeah it's so funny uh and then like it turned out like her dad watched it or something oh okay that is funny i get the weird yo like i just feel like like yeah it's so weird like i get the weirdest people that watch this yeah what's your demographic just in general in general yeah i don't know because i've felt like some people know me for my music some people know me for my my beats one show some people know me for my music. Some people know me for my Beats 1 show. Some people know me from – like two people know me from Flaked. Okay?

I don't think that show is that big. So Madeline's dad and one other person. Exactly. That's who know me from Flaked and the director himself. Okay. He remembers you. It's like Trevor, right? Exactly.

Yeah. I don't know. It's weird because, yeah, I feel like – look. I feel like I've been doing this for so long yeah like i'm i feel super young still but i've been like you know doing this for 10 years yeah it's like i've seen you know there's people that like i watch that come up with me who i have no fucking idea what they're doing now you know probably like and they're probably like teaching like sixth grade somewhere who had like a symbol on the radio. Right?

They're kids. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just – and what's so weird is like – is when fans get younger too. It's like I'm getting older but like then like I'll have like – and that's probably from like Madeline and all that stuff. Yeah, for sure. It's like – it's cute. It's really funny.

Yeah. Well, then it seems like you hit like every audience, which is awesome. So like no matter what you do, someone's like it's it's it's cute it's really funny yeah um well then it seems like you hit like every audience which is awesome so like no matter what you do someone will like it i'll have a group that'll like it i hope i think so probably not some of their fans are really mean though oh yeah i mean it's fun it's funny no i like i like their tweets when they hate me uh-huh like they'll tweet me like fuck travis i break up break up with him you know hashtag like shoney like they think this shit is like – I'm like ruining the – You're like chill, guys.

Right? No, I'll just like – I'll like the tweets all the time. Yeah. Yeah. There's like a Travis sucks account, all this stuff. Speaking of tweets, at Mama Swole wants to know why wasn't Slow Jam ever released. She said it's 2018 and I still need answers. I love you though.

Oh, yeah. Why wasn't the song ever released? I still need answers. I love you though. Oh, yeah. What was the song I released? I don't know. There's like a whole bunch of business stuff that goes on. It's called the music business. Yeah. So there's business that goes on. It's not just music.

And then artists get excited sometimes and like post videos and songs and then fans are like, where is this? Right. And that was one of those songs. is this right uh and that was one of those songs last one on twitter at vero privatera wants to know what's your advice for anyone who wants to make music and sending you lots of love from italy oh shout out italy yeah uh just do it yeah just just make music just that's what i'm doing i'm just like you know what fuck it if know what? Fuck it. If people don't like it, you don't like it. I have fun doing it. I'm getting my feelings out.

100%. And I just like I love being in the studio. Good. And like he can tweak my voice to make me sound way better. And then I just sing over my track when I perform it, you know? A lot of people do that. Britney Spears style. No, I mean, look, yeah, I feel like there's no rules to this shit, you know?

Yeah. And like everything I've gotten in life has been by a complete accident. hairstyle uh no i mean look yeah i feel like there's no rules to this shit you know and like everything i've gotten in life has been by a complete accident um i've always known what i wanted to do but just never knew how i was going to do it so it's like you know i had a goal i just didn't have like the steps on how i was going to achieve it totally so it's just fucking one foot in front of the other and like you know learning from your mistakes. What's that? That Walk the Moon song one put in front of the car. That's going to be in my head now. You're welcome. Yeah.

Well, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. This was fun. And you guys, if you like my show, you are going to love the Lady Gang podcast on Podcast One. The Hollywood Girl Posse has tackled the biggest names in stories in Hollywood and now they're taking over your TV.

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Just wanted to throw that in at the end. Great. Yeah. All right. Tell everyone where they can find you on social media. At Travis Mills. On everything. On everything.

It's really easy. Check out his show on Apple Music, Beats 1, Monday through Thursday, 4 to 5. Yes. Boom. Thanks for being here. And I'm starting a podcast. Ooh. Yeah, you got to come on.

Yes. I would love that. Yeah, when it happens. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. And I would love to have your girlfriend in here. Done. I don't know if she's ever done a podcast before.

Ooh, I love popping people's cherries. Yeah. Like podcast cherries. I just had one of my friends from the hills. He had never done a podcast like in all the years he's done TV and stuff. So I had him in here. It was fun. Frankie Delgado.

Oh, cool. Yeah. Good times. Oh, cool. Yeah. Good times. Oh, damn. Yeah. Yeah, he runs clubs and all that shit out there. Yeah, Hyde. Yeah.

We go back to college a long time. That's tight. Yeah. Anyway. You keep saying that. I'm just up there. Well, thanks for being here. Thanks for having me.

I'll see you on your show next. Yep. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans download new episodes every Tuesday and subscribe on the Podcast One app

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