Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Girl Talk with Heather Rae Young & Jessica Hall

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

This week, Scheana is joined by Heather Rae Young and Jessica Hall for some girl talk! They discuss what it’s like being on reality tv and how to deal with the media. Then Heather Rae Young talks about her recent engagement and what she envisions for her wedding! Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA. Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Welcome back to Shenanigans. We are finishing a conversation from a different podcast, also that takes place here at Action Park Media. I have two gorgeous blondes sitting across from me. jessica hall and heather ray of sunshine yeah that's cute i like that that's so cute people

call you that yeah ray of sunshine yeah he does and then mona does and probably other people maybe i don't like that i don't get a nickname Jess. Jessica Hall is like the most boring name ever. Common and boring. Jessica Hall Pass? Jessica. Thanks, Heather. I love you. Blame Willie and Vanita.

I know, right? Hall. Okay. Whatever. It's cool. It's not even my real last name anymore. I know. True.

It's not. And yeah, I mean, Jessica Carlson. Yeah. It's got such a good ring to it that's really cute yes it's a very could you transition over at this point you know what no so the horror is why i didn't want to in the beginning is in my mind when i had kids i was like oh great let's just keep paul for the nudes because you know doing playboy you know i used my name and so i was like okay so like when the kids like get older and google or whatever like that let's keep my maiden name like quiet yeah or not my maiden name i'm sorry my married name like kind of quiet because that's what the kids will know it by so they can't really find their mom oh they'll find you oh yeah oh they'll find

you do you watch the housewives i don't know you'll find it oh fantastic yeah well you know what own it i will i yeah exactly i'm going to be looking at my i mean they're so young right now but just i i can't even imagine when they have to ask me the question of like oh you know why did you do this or why you know i know can i do this i'll walk around with like a play little playboy sweatshirt on around the house and like my little playboy outfit and i'm not my bunny costume but you know what i mean like a little Playboy sweatshirt on around the house and my little Playboy outfit. Not my bunny costume, but you know what I mean. Like a little Playboy shirt. And I'm afraid that Tarek's kids are going to be like,

what's Playboy? And then I have to explain what Playboy is. So I'm always aware of not wearing that sweatshirt when I'm around the kids. Because his daughter's getting to the age where she's going to start understanding what that is. But she won't process nudity, magazine. She's not going to get it. She's just going to be like, oh my God, you were naked in front of the world.

So it's not really, it's not around. I know. It's not. I know. When I was a kid, that was my dream. I wanted to be a playmate. Me too. That was like my goal.

I was like Dallas Cowboy, Taylor or Playboy Playmate. Yeah. Oh, that would have been fine. Yeah. I wanted to be a Raiderette and now I hate the Raiders but back in the 90s that was like the thing to do i just really wanted to be in playboy because my dad always had the magazines why didn't you ever we had the playboy channel yeah you totally should have done it um i don't know because in my early 20s is probably when i should have and i don't know i was too busy with you know certain singers certain singers and actors. And if you want that story, you're going to have to listen to flashbacks.

Oh, that was like a shocker. I think I'm still talking about that. Oh, I haven't brought it up to Stacey. I did barely ask her a little bit about what she say. Well, I didn't say too much, but I did mention about the John Mayer topic. And she was like, you know, he was really great, though. He was nice. And she's, like, saying, like, good things about him. Yeah, okay. I don't have a bad thing to say about him. Yeah, but she was, like, he did pursue her. Yeah. Yeah, and she was kind of, like.

And I was, like, excuse? I brought you into this throuple, bitch. I would say. But it was, yeah, it was just kind of, like, I didn't, yeah, she's pregnant and I don't want to, like, get her emotional about it. Yeah. So I didn't pry too much. I should say that. So we're just going to drop the bomb when she hears it.

If she listens. If she even listens. I have to tell her I'm like did you see that photo I posted of you? Yeah. But why didn't you like it? Why didn't you comment on it? It's like announcing like you being pregnant. It's like whatever. She's just whatever. So she's not going to listen to flashbacks or shenanigans at that point.

Okay, okay. We're safe, you guys. If she can't press a heart, we're safe then. Double tap. It's not that hard. Thank you. You know? Yeah.

Show the love. But if you guys do want to hear the full John Mayer story, you're going to have to go over to flashbacks with Jessica and Heather and listen because that's where we spilled a lot of tea. I'm trying to keep shenanigans now that I'm back in a relationship not as raunchy as it was the first two years. So those stories are for other people's podcasts. So you're welcome. Yeah, exactly.

We kind of feel the same, actually, though. I told Jess before, I'm like, okay, there's certain things that I need to keep quiet. But we can ask everyone else the dirty things. Why would you say that, Heather? I know. But we can ask everyone else. The dirty things look at her like, why would you say that, Heather? I know. Well, there's my shutdown right there. Anyways.

So your girls met during the Playboy times. Is that how you became friends? Yes. Okay, so what year was this? Paint the picture. Gosh. Do you remember when you met? Do you remember, Jess?

Your first meeting? Heather literally had the biggest crush on me. I love Jessica. She did. I love that. I remember, I'll not forget. like your first meeting heather was like literally had the biggest crush on me i love jessica she did i love that she like i remember i'll not forget we were with a bunch of uh playboy girls for new year's eve in cabo like this is gosh probably 12 years ago oh yeah it had to have been maybe i was yeah i must have been 22 so maybe about 11 years ago yeah and i'm three years four years older than her and i just just remember, like, we were drinking. Of course, it's in Cabo, and we're at this, like, Pink Kitty with, like, Jade and all these girls.

I've been to the Pink Kitty. We filmed there season two. Okay. So I know exactly what you're talking about. So we're there. It was just a big shit show. And I just remember the guy that you're dating at the time was talking to Kyle. And seconds before midnight, Heather grabs grabs me gives me the biggest kiss of like Kyle's just sitting here

being like you know it's okay I'm not a kiss nerd because he enjoyed watching I think Heather and I like literally make out and she's like the only girl I've ever kissed is what I am I love that I'm so special oh wow so special Jess and now we're here at Flashbacks talking about our flashback. That was a crazy night because we showed up and we were sober and it was probably like 30 minutes

before midnight. We had a goal. We had a goal, right? We have to be wasted at midnight because we're like dancing with all the playmates. We're in Mexico.

Yeah, we're in Mexico. We're at the Pink Kitty and Jessica and I were sober. We're like, oh my God, we got to drink. So I think we just

started downing shots, right? Yes, yes. Probably wasted. And then that we got to drink. So I think we just started downing shots, right? Yes. Lost. Wasted. And then that's why the kiss happened. I think we were dancing up on the pole. Yeah. Yeah.

I've been on that pole. Yeah. Yeah. That pole. You know, it's really funny though, is that they have, I don't know if you remember the big glass that looks like a mirror that's kind of by the DJ. So that's actually the offices. And our friend at the time was dating the owner.

Oh my God. So she was having sex. And she could watch all of us. But we can obviously see her. Oh, my God. Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember.

Yeah. I do remember. That's amazing. And we saw Crystal Hefner there that night. Which is so random. With Dr. Filson. Yes. Yes.

Ooh. Okay. Okay. It's all coming together. Uh-huh. Okay. Wait. Didn't we catch a ride with him the next day on his jet to do that playboy job me you and jade probably not because when i've gone home with my ex no i didn't go home with kyle remember there was drama remember the drama that night too with the other girl that i thought i caught my ex in the, or remember? Oh, vaguely. My ex left.

Yes. Yes. I don't know if I can say her name. Who cares? Satori. Yeah. So my, I was dating this guy who, you know, he's, he's known in like the industry and like a lot of my friends, models, actresses, they all know him. And I was like wasted drunk and we went back to the room and he wanted to go down to the

jacuzzi with the girls. Like other, and I was like wasted. I couldn't, I't i couldn't i was like tired i needed to go to sleep like she couldn't you know the keys to the hotel room that you have to put in to get the lights on yeah so he left me in the room like literally laid me i was on the bed like i think he left me like half dressed to run down to the jacuzzi to go and hang out with these other girls oh my gosh and he took the key so he left me in the pitch black with like barely any clothes on and like i was like sick through i started got up to like throw up he's gone i didn't know where he was and i look out the window and i could like see it was like meant to be i could like see him in the jacuzzi with

these girls no i literally my wasted butt like walks down there and i'm like what the fuck is going on you left me in the room like you know like who does that you're supposed to be like protecting me taking care of me but yeah like i that was a shit show i do remember that i was pissed yeah so that's not where we first met though no i just thought at the mansion between but probably yeah i mean it's kind of a blur in the 20s especially being able to you know But that's not where we first met, though. No, I just thought it was a funny story. Where did we first meet? At the mansion between. Probably. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a blur in the 20s, especially being able to, you know, have the access that we did at the Playboy Mansion, just having fun. But I think we just connected because her and I were both, at the time, both in serious relationships.

And we were just there to have fun. Like, a lot of the girls kind of wanted to date, see what celebrities here or there. Heather and I didn't care. That's where I would have been. Yeah. So we were just literally where I would have been. Yeah. So we were just literally living it up. We were just there hanging out with our girlfriends. Yeah.

It wasn't like we were there for alter, you know, motives. And we were just there to, like, be around our friends, go for Sunday Funday, lay out. Yeah. And go to the parties and that kind of thing. And I think I was working a lot because I, in my bunny costume, I was always working. You were, like, hosting or doing, like, you're always there for work, too. Yeah. I was, yeah.

Hosting the parties. Yeah. We don not actually host the party but i would do like playboy.com or playboy tv or radio interviewing people yeah and then i used to go on her radio show for playboy radio and we would like have so much fun doing that i'd go co-host with her it was fun yeah we had a blast with heather co-hosted with me a few times and this one time we had this artist come on. And he had a big, like, paper or whatever. And he's like, this is how you create art. We're like, well, what do we need to do?

How do we paint? So he goes, with your tits. So Heather and I proceeded to take off our tops, dip them in paint, and we literally painted. We still have that photo. Do you have that on video? Yeah. I just sent you the other day that old photo of us, too were like brunette oh i know but the funny part this is we've been friends for that long that there was no video on phone so we got pictures but we didn't actually get video

yeah we didn't have that's right for the better you know oh we got away with so much which is why we created flashbacks because we technically, you cannot find it online. Yeah. Okay. So tell me more about y'all's show. And I want to know what is the best flashback story, other than mine, of course, that you've gotten on the show so far? On flashbacks. Yeah.

Gosh, we got a good one today. Yeah. Brian's is fun, talking about dating and cheating. But what's the best flashback story? Who have we had on? I think the best part so far for me is just to hear some of these horror dating stories. Yeah. People are, I mean, Jasmine came on and talked about hers. Oh, is she

still dating the guy? She's like moved all the way across country for him. So, you know Jasmine? So we had Jasmine on and I think we told you last time maybe, but Jasmine went on a first date and then came and did our show after just coming off of the first date, spending the night with the guy, not having sex. Yeah. She said.

Whatever, but they were naked. Slept naked together. Okay. Naked cuddle. And then she came still kind of like drunk, I think, right? Yeah. From her date. Now she's dating the guy.

How many months later? Is that four months? Oh, gosh. Five months? Yeah. I think it's. Wow. Yeah. Okay she's dating the guy. How many months later? Is that four months? Oh, gosh. Five months? Yeah. I think it's... Wow. Yeah.

Okay. And they're like madly in love. She literally just moved, which I'm so sad about, but happy for her. I saw something on Instagram because I saw she was out here and it was like, but now we're going back. And I just assumed it was maybe for quarantine. Like she was just staying with family, maybe getting out of LA. No.

Oh, she's gone, gone. Yeah. She's in love. She's my golf buddy. I know. Not that we have any of those tournaments coming up anytime soon, she's gone, gone. Yeah, she's in love. She's my golf buddy. I know. I mean, not that we have any of those tournaments coming up anytime soon, but. Oh, yeah. Aw.

Is he a good guy? Do you like him? Have you met him? Because of quarantine, I've only was able to meet him once, and I was, gosh, it sounds so like I drink a lot, but I was, it was my birthday, and so I had a few drinks. Oh, another birthday. I vaguely remember meeting him, but it was, I mean, as long as he makes her happy. And I haven't seen her this happy in a long time, so I'm very happy for her.

She deserves it. Yes, she does. So when this is all said and done, COVID, hopefully I get to know him more. Yeah. Oh, I'm so happy for her. That's so exciting. Oh, my gosh. I've known Jasmine for like 16 years.

Yeah, I've known Jasmine for a long time too. We were all in the same circle back in the day. It was like Jasmine, you, we all had this little girl group. Crazy. See, I didn't realize that y'all had known each other so long until just a few weeks ago

because I didn't know you did Playboy. I just knew you from Nima always talking you up and from watching Selling Sunset, which I want to get into, but not yet. Yes. Because two weeks ago, we had Christine from Selling Sunset on the show, and there were some teas spilled, and now it's like all over. Ooh, juicy, juicy. Yes, we'll get into that at the end of the show. So where did we leave off?

Because I know we said let's finish the conversation on shenanigans. I wanted to hear your experience doing reality because we've all done reality. Yeah. And I wanted to hear because you've been doing it a lot longer than me. What was your experience doing reality TV? And I don't know. I just thought it was the end of it. I feel like it was.

I think that is kind of we like touched on freezing eggs and then we were talking about reality TV. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So like, just like your experiences in reality TV and what do I have to look forward to or not look forward to or like protect myself or, you know. You finish already three seasons. You probably should have asked three seasons. I know.

But like, I feel like, I don't know about you or even, you know, when you did Kendra on Top, like mine is like a delayed response. Like I'm like, okay, I'm doing this reality show. And then it kind of like hit me like, wow, I'm all over the world. Like this is a big thing. And Netflix is huge. Netflix is huge. Wow, my whole life is out there. And I think it just was kind of a delayed reaction for me because I didn't think it was going to do as well as it did.

I mean, none of us did. We didn't know it was going to happen. And then and I've been in it since season one, like before, you know, before the shot the pilot. So it's, it's like very exciting and new for me, but it hasn't hit me yet. So I think it's hitting me now. But that's good. Yeah. I'm very humble. I'm very humble. But like, it's like, wow, reality setting in. I think it was around the third season though, when it really hit me. And that was the season I was getting married. And so was very centered around you my bachelorette party bridal shower all of that kind of stuff and that was when I think I started to get a little too caught up in the show and the marriage

and everything it was like you know maybe we didn't do it for the exact right reasons we did love each other we were madly in love we were friends since high school not high school sweethearts but we knew each other for so long and it just felt right but i think we did rush into it because there was a show involved and you wanted to have it on the show and maybe like yeah let people into your lives yeah and i mean of course i wanted to be the first and any more so it's like all of that shit doesn't matter like there's so many things that have happened in the last five six years since i got married that it's just like none of that shit doesn't matter. Like there's so many things that have happened in the last five, six years since I got married that it's just like, none of that shit matters. I would definitely recommend a good therapist. And I recently just fully weaned myself off Wellbutrin, but I had been on that since about season four or five. Wait, what is that? it was for anxiety and depression oh do you think

that was from the show did it cause did it excel that I think that was a big part of it I've had anxiety my whole life ever since I was really young and like my parents were never hard on me I just needed to get straight A's for myself it wasn't like I would get grounded if I got bad grades they were just happy if I was happy. But ever since I was really young, like I just always had to be number one. I was really, really competitive. And I kind of took that going into the show, wanted to be first with everything. And then the last few seasons, I'm just like, I don't give a fuck. I really don't. But then I almost like lost that spark. And my boyfriend, which I can't wait for y'all to meet him, he has, like, brought that fire back to me, which I love because he's like, fight for something.

Like, don't just, like, give up so easy. I'm like, I'm not giving up. I'm just like, eh, that's fine. Like, you can have all the star power. You can do this. And I just, like, I stopped caring. Well, I think, too, like, the audience, like, what I say is they don't realize when the cameras turn off like our lives don't so like when you get in fights the girls or there's drama or something happens that's our real life and so I'll take that with me for weeks after and like the fight I got in with

Amanza like that affected me for a long time like I was like called Tarek after and I was shaking like I was really like physically upset by. And people don't see that stuff. So you have to pick your battles, especially, well, me, I'm kind of neutral with all the girls, but I don't want to be in these fights. They're my friends. And that's the difference too with our show.

I've been friends with these girls for, we've been working together before the reality show. So they're also my girlfriends and we have to remember that. Let's center back to where we started and who we are and we had each other's backs and let's stop this like crazy drama gossip all the time you know it's it's hurting us so and that's how our show started too it was a group of well i was kind of the outsider i was like the chris shell basically

like the new girl brought on but after watching i've seen literally every episode some more than once i think i relate to you the most. Like I am very much so always kind of in the middle, trying to keep the peace with everyone, just like always trying to be happy and positive. But our show started out, you know, as a group of friends. And over the last nine years, a lot of those friendships have changed. A lot will never be repaired. And some enemies are now best friends.

And I'm pretty much in a good place with everyone again, which is weird because three years ago, I mean, a lot of us literally hated each other. And now we're all pretty good. But I think it's because when you do have a group of friends who start something so big like this together, you realize at the end of the day that it is a television show you're making and you all have each other's backs. Anything big that has happened in our lives, like, for example, my mom, still, we have a family member who's been missing for almost 200 days now. It's insane. It happened when we were in London,

like, I don't know, six months ago, and he's still missing. And the second I let the cast know every single person was posting stories posting on their main page and just like even people who I maybe wasn't on the best terms with at the time or hadn't talked to in a few months like everyone comes together and that's the thing where it's like you have to remember when like real life shit happens that it's just a show but then new people come on the show and they're like well we're just making a show so like whatever get over it and i'm like no it's a show about

our lives you're lucky to be a part of it yeah it's not just a show in that sense yeah you're you're giving like your heart your soul like your whole life like we're not you're not censoring yourself because you can't like you're filming a reality show so yeah i'm wondering if they're gonna bring new girls onto my show. I'd never have to worry about that. When is that going to happen? Yeah, it's true. I did six seasons of Kendra on Top, but it was literally me, Kendra, and Hank.

Yeah. So Hank caused some drama, so then I was in the clear. You know what I mean? So it was pretty much, you know, Kendra and I have little spots here and there, but she always had a very, you know, it's out there but a awful relationship with her mother so that was always kind of there and I was more of the voice of reason and just being there and like a you know secondary whatever but I mean I was on every episode but it was just such a such a different experience because again there is no a group of people whatsoever and when you

have a bunch of women yeah and you know a about each other, you're together a lot and drama comes up and you can either like feed into it or you can kind of squash it. And, you know, we're going through kind of ups and downs and, you know, one week I'm talking to her and the next week I'm not and I read this and I'm like, what is going on? Like, it's a lot. Oh, I'm sure. And like, I'm kind of, yeah, always in the middle, like you said. And, you know, I care about all the girls, but then I read certain things. I'm like, okay, I just, I need to like stay away from that right now. Like I can't even feed into it and let that affect me.

And I don't know. But I think like I said, I didn't voice my opinion enough. Like the last few seasons, like there's like things that I'm not going to cause like fights for no reason. But if someone says something, I should, I should stand up for my girlfriend or stand stand up for myself and there's a lot of times that i didn't just to not cause any drama i'm the same way and now i wish i look back and i wish i did yeah like stand up for what i believe you know and like if you stand up for what you believe it's not causing unnecessary drama it's just what you believe right so i'm like learning i'm like okay stand up for my friends

stand up for myself and what i believe in yeah Yeah. And that's the thing. You learn more each season. You see what makes it in the show, what doesn't. You see how certain interviews and things can be twisted. Like you were talking about your engagement and then the headlines about Chrishell. Yeah. That's happened to me multiple times where it's all about me,

but I make one comment about Stassi and then that's the headline. I'm like, but that, and then a lot of people don't even read the article they only read the headline it's like or it's like with Lisa that's the worst when I've said like one thing and then it's like Sheena Shea slams Lisa Varela I was like no I didn't yeah no I didn't but then she doesn't read the article and then I get a call and I'm like I didn't you didn't like read the article listen to the podcast that's not what I said it just happened to me on the way up here I did a call and I'm like, I didn't know. Like read the article, listen to the podcast. That's not what I said.

It just happened to me on the way up here. I did an interview and they asked, obviously, Chrishell's divorce. She put it out there. It was on the show. That was the first time I had heard about her, heard her story. It was me watching the show. So like in depth, the way she explained it. So now I'm getting-

She didn't explain much, let's be honest. More than I thought though, honestly. More than I thought because she is very, you know, private with things. But I had not heard any of that. So now I'm getting asked about it. And the headlines today was, like, almost like I was, like, talking gossip about her and Justin. And I sent it to her. And I was like, hey.

And I read it. It was, like, very, like, nothing that she. I didn't comment on anything extra. But it's, like, the headline was to catch people. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it's drama. Yeah. I think, like, oh, my God. It's drama. I think you're going – and I can speak on this because obviously I wasn't with Tarek at the time, my fiancé. But he had a very public divorce.

And there was headlines about him that were so untrue. People were saying crazy things. Every day he'd read something about himself. And he was on every cover for years. All these things were out about him. And you're not only going through a public divorce and then all these people are spreading rumors all these people are even if they're not rumors people are just talking talking opinions opinions and it's escalating it and making it so much worse right and i can't even imagine being in that position and like it could happen you know what i mean like and like whatever

happened obviously she was devastated and I'm sure of course yeah and like anyone would be so like I'm going off of that like how I saw her going from the night I was with her when everything was okay and then the next day and then seeing her after and like the how devastated and broken she was that's all I'm going off of I don't know anything and I and I'm glad I don't because I choose to support her how she is now. You know, and the way she is to me and that's how I go off of things. Like, you know, if she's been nothing but nice

to me, I can't then go and like, yeah, bad mouth her. I completely get what you're saying. So like, I support her 100%. If she did something awful to me, then fine. That's another thing, but that's why I'm saying like, my show, it's the up and down drama with some of the girls. And I read certain things that my friends were saying.

And I'm just like, okay, that's not a friend to me. So I'm going to choose to step back right now. And maybe we can, like, rekindle something or talk in person or whatever. But it's a lot of drama right now. It's a lot of he said, she said. This is coming out. The rumors, the drama. And we all need to kind of circle back and be like, why are we doing this in the first place?

We're friends. Is anyone even selling houses? We're too busy with the fucking drama. Gosh, guys, go to work. No, we all, I mean, COVID obviously kind of changed that a little bit. But yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm so busy with like other things and like trying to be a freaking bonus mom. I'm, you know, engaged.

And sometimes I'm just like, I can't deal with it right now. Okay, well let's talk more about that because I'm staring at this gorgeous ring, which by the way, I took one of your Instagram photos and I just casually texted it to my boyfriend and I go, just showing you, I don't expect eight carats, but I do really like this and it is my dream ring and he's

like okay so an emerald cut and then i saw him googling emerald cuts and i'm like we're we're not even a year a year next month but we do know like yeah and i mean i was ready three months in yeah and same i mean we jumped in so quickly i know we had talked about this a little bit on your show but i was just like just just showing. You got to at least show them what you like. That is my dream ring. So you guys are together a year next month. So have you talked marriage openly? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. But not right now. I mean, we're not in a rush for it, especially just this world is so crazy and we would want to do a destination thing probably back in New Zealand or Bali or somewhere closer to his family.

I'm like, my family's already had a wedding. You can travel to the next one if you want. I don't expect you to have been there, done that. But also, I'm like, I don't need a big wedding. I already had my princess dream wedding. It didn't work out. It was really expensive. And now you're ready to just, yeah.

See, that's what I'm debating. Right now, we're just in the beginning stages of talking we know we do not want a covid wedding yeah so if it has to be pushed another you know we're thinking like within this year but if it has to be within this year within this like not not 2020 but like okay yeah yeah so it's probably summer 2021 if we need to push it we're going to and i'm like you'll be fine still if we're still going through this right now like in 2021 summer and i have to push my wedding but i don't want to do things i want to have like a bridal shower and we don't want to have a big bachelorette back like bachelor bachelorette party like i want to go dress shopping and bring out everybody i don't i don't

want it to be like one person totally so it's my first wedding so i don't know if i don't my only wedding look at me my first wedding no i'm not do it on the show. My only wedding. Look at me, my first wedding. Don't do it on the show. No, I'm not doing it on the show. Yeah, we've already... Well, we've kind of... We still will talk about it, but we're leaning more towards no. Because license them footage that they can use for it. Yeah. That's at your call. I remember Sheena's wedding.

We were all like at this cocktail hour. It was on the show? Yeah. I'm sure I saw it. I just don't... I have a really bad memory, so I don't remember. But I've seen like most of the episodes, but... Yeah.

So she was the first to get married on Vanderpump. And she... We were all like at the cocktail hour for, I don't know but i've seen like most of the the episodes but yeah so she was the first to get married on vanderpump and she we were all like at the cocktail ever for i don't know three hours because you guys were and i was ready bride was glam ready they put me in a broom closet oh yeah literally in 110 degree like heat in the valley put me in a broom closet because it was like they had to get the speakers set up and then it was like oh it was a nightmare it was beautiful though and i guess i think i don't want my and i've talked about this because everyone's asking me are you gonna film it i don't want my friends and my family sitting there you know uncomfortable while they're getting the drama scene of the girls fight or whatever it is exactly that's a hundred percent not what I'm going to do. Like absolutely not going to do like,

this is a very special, I've waited 33 years to get married. Like I'm not going to make it sound like show. That's not what it's about for me. So Kristen punched James in my wedding. So maybe you remember that. Oh my God. Yeah.

See, I can't have that. I can't. So I don't know what, like we're trying to like throw around the idea of how many people, like how many, I don't even know what's normal. Like what is, I got married so long ago. I don't even that. I can't. So I don't know. We're trying to throw around the idea of how many people. I don't even know what's normal. I got married so long ago. How many people did you have?

Listen, I was 24. I just wanted an open bar. And I wasn't. Now I would do things so differently. I know you don't want to hear it. A lope? No. I would have done way smaller.

I mean, it was just so many people small yeah like i'm okay with i like yeah yeah oh my gosh yeah i know see i even like tarik threw around like 150 and i was like oh my god that seems like a lot to me so i had 200 and it was like but also it was you know just different i and my husband's from the midwest and i he wanted me to get married there and i was like i don't care because i was not a wedding person whatsoever i just really truly wanted to marry him but i was meeting people at my wedding like his family and stuff like that because you're not able to like really enjoy your moment with your man like in your family you're in you have to like go around talk everyone wants to take pictures different personalities of like

my mom and then his mom and then this and they wanted this that i was like okay clearly you guys this is supposed to be about me but it was definitely not yeah yeah if you're asking advice i would definitely keep it under a hundred yeah that's what i'm thinking like more intimate and definitely this is it's it's like i said it's a special moment for us like not for anyone else it's for us and we're getting married because it's me and him so it's not a show for everybody. That many super close people. No one has a hundred super close friends and immediate family. I think for me, it's going to be hard just to like,

okay, going back to all the people I know for my modeling years and Playboy and like, do I invite, you know, people? But I feel like if I haven't talked to them in a year, then why would I want you at my wedding? You know, I don't know. That's a good point then why would I want you at my wedding? You know? I don't know. No, that's a good point.

You know what? There you go. Just do that. Yeah. You know, if you have not talked to, spoken to someone in a year, that's a long time. And my life is very different now than it was. I mean, God, my life is so different now, as you know. And, you know, I have kids in my life now, and they're like, him and Tark are number one. I don't have time to come up to L.A. for lunch or, or like dinners and with some friends that I haven't spoke to in three years.

And anyone who's going to get their feelings hurt and not understand, that's not someone you need in your life anyways. And that's the thing. I get worried about that because I'm a sensitive person and like I don't want to offend anyone. But I also am like this is our wedding. This is our time. I don't want to be stressed out about how other people are feeling. I think you're going into it with a great attitude. I was kind of like, I mean, again, I was

so young and I just, same thing. I pleased everyone else but me that day. So at five years, Kyle and I just went to Hawaii and brought four people with us. That's special. And it was one billion things better. We renewed our vows at five years. It's special. I can't even tell you how much nicer it was

and a lot cheaper. There are going to be those people who want to come now because you guys are on TV and it's like they're going to get butt hurt because it's like, oh, I didn't get to go to the TV wedding or the one that's going to be in magazines and again, not real friends. No. And that's why people have been reaching out to me left and right

and I'll say to Tarek and I'm like, you know, because they're seeing us everywhere right now so they're reaching out and it's nice to hear congratulations but then I'm like, you know, because they're seeing us everywhere right now. So they're like reaching out and, you know, it's nice to hear congratulations. But then I'm like, okay, but that's it. I haven't spoke to you in a couple years. So then you're not going to be then coming to my wedding. So I don't know.

I don't want it to be a stressful thing. I want it to be like this really fun, easy, like planning and excitement. Like I don't want to get the stressed out, like overwhelmed. And I'm not having bridesmaids. I'm not going to do that whole thing. Cause I don't want to worry about what their hair is going to look like, what they're going to wear. They're making up.

Yes. I don't want to make that about them. I mean, take it from, I mean, you too. We both had a lot of bridesmaids at our wedding. It was insane.

You're worried about them. I'm not being like mean, but the way it looked with photos, it was so cluttered. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. And then then like the dresses are they really that cute you know shorten it and wear it again who's ever done that you know oh god i don't want to yeah there were people at my wedding who i didn't even see like when i got the wedding video back i was like oh yeah they were there. But I never even saw them.

Like I would see like dresses. I'm like, wow, she was wearing a really pretty dress. I didn't see her that night. 300 people. 300. And we both have big families. But I mean, it was like every single family member. Extended family, friends of the family. But it was also like, because I remember I sat next to Alex.

Because obviously I was one of the only people. Which Alex? Alex, like Alex. one of the only people he really knew. Which Alex? Alex, like Alex. From Evolution. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was going to say his last name, but yeah, I don't know if it matters, but yeah.

Yeah. Because he was like kind of gravitating because we knew each other. Yeah, it was, there were so many people that you didn't even know where to start. Never again. No, it's fine though, because you know, you've been there, you've done that. Yeah. I don't know. I've always envisioned something smaller, but then you start getting excited, you know?

I think 100 people is perfect. That's so good. I think 100 is a good number. 10 tables of 10. Yeah. I think we need to start writing the list out and at least starting there because right now we're just, like, throwing out numbers and I'm like, you know, we probably need to start really thinking about it. I'm going you know we probably need to um start really

thinking about it I'm gonna go wedding dress shopping soon just to get that that process started yeah oh my god so tell me because I mean I've seen photos but tell me exactly how he did it oh my gosh um yeah so everyone's asking me like did I know it was gonna happen because it was also filmed for his show on HGTV but it wasn wasn't for me. I didn't know it was being filmed for that. Like I didn't know what he was. I thought we were filming for his show for an episode we did together. I represented my client on, um, he helped my client flip a house and so he guided her along.

So I was on the show, um, along with him. And so I was told it was going to be B roll for his show. Like we were just shooting extra footage because they were making it an hour long they wanted to get us on our little romantic getaway I was like okay cool so I'm like sure whatever a couple hours of filming like I'm used to it it's fine it's for your job it's for work I would do anything for him so sure and then you know the camera crew ended up being like 20 there was like 20 crew I'm like this is a lot of people honey for b-roll like this is like okay and he's like yeah i don't know he kind of just kept brushing me off

oh i don't know like yeah whatever and it's gonna be cute i'm like okay sure and then um he had all these active like things planned for us throughout the weekend they were like filming that and they were like holding me down the lobby like pulling him away i'm like what is going on like i kept like questioning it but i'm like okay he just has surprises? Like I kept like questioning it, but I'm like, okay, he just has surprises. I'm just going to like go with the flow. Right. And then he ended up doing it at Descanso Beach on Catalina Island. So he closed down the whole beach. He had like flowers everywhere and candles everywhere.

And he was in his tux and I'm giving you like the super short version. So like they hid me walking down to Descanso Beach and I turn around this, come around this corner and he's standing at the end like with these palm below these palm trees in his tux holding a card and a box and it took me like 15 seconds to realize like what was going on yeah and he still was like he was like honey your face was like smiley kind of happy like I was like running towards him and he's like your face kind of like changed like holy shit is this happening yeah but in my mind, I'm like, I don't want to think it's happening because if it doesn't, I'm going to be like upset, you know? And I think everyone else

was like, they knew it was going to happen to me. I was like, I don't know. I don't think he's going to do it yet. I think he's going to wait. And he ended up reading a card to me that I wrote to him a year ago. It was actually Christine's idea, which is funny enough. Like, cause I was like trying to think of a special gift to give him for his birthday. And she's like, write him an intimate card and give it to him, you know, later down the line. And I ended up making it an anniversary card. I said, open this on our one year anniversary. So he opened that card right before he proposed to me. And he read out loud, like what I wrote to him a year ago, or over a year ago. And like, that was like a really special moment, because I couldn't like what I wrote to him a year ago or over a year ago. And like, that was like a really special moment because I couldn't remember what I wrote in the card. And he, you know, he didn't

know either. And we've had it in our safe for like a year. And every day he was like, can I open it? And I'm like, no, we have to wait. And then he actually, on our one year anniversary, it was like Wednesday the 22nd. I was like, open the card. And he's like, no, I'm going to wait till Monday. And I'm like, why are you waiting till Monday? You've been waiting a year to open this card. But little did I know, he was planning on reading the card right before he proposed. So it was cute. I love it. I told him, I was like, thank goodness he said some nice stuff in it.

Right? Wait, so you wrote the card right, like, when you guys started dating? Like, a month after we started dating. Oh, my gosh. And already in the card, like, I talked about, like, you know, the kids, how he brought the kids into my life. And I'm so happy. And he's my soulmate. I can't wait to spend the rest of my life with him like it was all these like really sweet things how I felt at the time and it's crazy to like read that back and be like wow we are soul

mates from the very beginning like I was in love with him right away and um I just knew and look at me I love him so much I know but I sat with him last night I think I was telling you and I realized like wow I'm getting married like this is the I realized, wow, I'm getting married. This is the rest of my life. I'm spending the rest of my life with him, this commitment. And I don't think it hit me with the media and everything going on. It's like, I'm getting married. I'm so excited to really sit back and be like, wow, this is my life partner.

And this is forever. And you're going to go through these ups and downs and crazy times and how you have to stick together through everything. And I'm like, wow, I'm getting married. Like I'm going to be a wife and it's a huge commitment. I'm really excited. You're going to make me cry. That's so cute. It's just like, it's hitting me all.

I think like right now that things are kind of calming down. Like, wow, like this is more than just, you know, it's like the media, whatever it is, but this is like, this is my going to be my husband. It's so special. And I love that you just like knew from the beginning and like even the girls would make fun of you yeah and i that's where i'm like i'm heather okay i'm not the chris shell i'm the heather like you know tarik would always say to me because i'd say that like the girls were always like i don't know like they didn't think it was gonna work out or whatever and and tarik's like don't worry they'll know

they don't know now but they will will. And now, look it. We're engaged and we're getting married. And it's crazy because when we first started dating is when I first started filming the show. So the beginnings of my relationship were, it was literally three weeks into our relationship. And I started filming a reality show. And Tariq can't be on it, so I talk about him a lot. Actually, you haven't seen season three yet. You have.

I talk about getting engaged and wanting I actually you haven't seen season 3 yet you have yeah I talk about getting engaged and like wanting to be engaged like every episode yes freaking embarrassing like he goes babe damn like that's pressure I'm like oh my god honey I'm so sorry thank god you proposed me before this came out because I look like such a I look like I'm like crazy obsessed

with like getting engaged which I was but you know but it's so cute. I love it. Well, I don't think we could end on a better note. So ladies tell everyone where they can find you and listen to your podcast. Obviously you can listen to the podcast here because we're at the same place. I don't know.

But your Instagram, um, at I am Jessica Hall and I am at Heather Ray and Ray is R a E young. Boom. Thanks for listening guys. Thank you. Bye. Sheena Shea. Thank you. Bye. Sheena Shea.

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