Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Hot Topics with Janet, Kiki & Mr. Pussy

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

This week, Scheana is in the studio catching up with Janet & Kiki. Scheana dishes on Summer’s first days of school and shares which VPR mini-me(s) destroyed a flower wall at Lala’s Baby Monsoon. They discuss RHOC John Janssen’s appeal & why they’re Team Shannon, Alec Baldwin’s case dismissal, Gypsy Rose’s pregnancy news, Maren Morris’ wardrobe malfunction, & more. Plus, which recently deceased public figure taught Janet how to perform fellatio? Tune in to find out!  Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @janet @thetalkofshame The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, July 19th.  Episode Sponsors:Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoneydot.com/honey. Get the Rakuten app NOW and join the 17 million members who are already saving! Cash Back rates change daily, see Rakuten.com for details.Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V.® when you go to LiquidIV.com and use code HONEY at checkout.Get the daily protection you need with the glow that you want! Go to DIMEBeautyCo.com now and try their Tinted Glow Wonderscreen.Watch The Serpent Queen, only on STARZ and the STARZ app. Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Because we're good as old. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. Today, I am Kiki'ing with two of my favorite girls. You follow her as thetalkofshame on Instagram and TikTok,

and you know her from SiriusXM's Reality Checked and as the host of the Pop Crime Podcast. Ready to Kiki with my girl, Kiki Monique. How we doing? Hi, how are you? Good. Always good to have you here. I love being here. I feel like I do some of my best work when you two ladies are here.

I feel the same. You know? So we're going to just keep this being a regular thing. Also with us today, star of Bravo's Breakout Hit the Valley and host of The Side of the Hill podcast. Miss Janet, no longer Janet Elizabeth X. It's Janet Caperna. Yeah. Yeah.

How does that feel? And on Instagram, I'm just Janet. Just Janet. That's amazing. We finally got rid of the X. I know, finally. And the Elizabeth X while we were at it. And somehow Janet Jackson has a last name

and I don't, so. It's so funny. Jason keeps saying I need to change my Instagram bio to Mrs. Caperna if you're nasty. I love it. So this is going to be my new schedule on Mondays. I dropped off summer at school this morning. I saw Brittany and Lala drop off.

We hung out for a few and then we're like, OK, now we're going to go, you know, record our podcast. And I just drove over the hill, grabbed coffee for you ladies. And here we are. So I was dropping her off easier than the first day. Or is it getting easier every time? Yeah. I mean, she's good. She is the kid who's just like, why are you still here? Can leave and I'm like just making sure okay you got your sweater here you got this got that like we're good but yeah she's great she loves it they did walk into the class today and they have all of this paint set up and she's in a really pretty pink and white dress and I go do you put like a little like spock or something on them and the teacher goes no if you don't want her clothes to get dirty, you should dress her in something else.

Oh, no. Wow. She goes, well, you know, it's all washable and whatnot, but just, you know, you should put her in clothes that you're okay getting paint and dirt on.

I was like, good to know for future. Does she have any clothes that you're okay with getting dirt and paint on? I'm going to send her with a paint Spock next time. I'm like,

if I knew they were painting today, she literally has one of those at home for when she paints spock like isn't it it's spock is it just smock smock yeah spock is on star wars or yeah whatever a paint smock clearly i'm not the painter okay summer probably knows what it's called on her sign for preschool she said she wants to be a painter when she grows up i asked her about that was like, like, you want to paint pictures or you want to paint a house? And she was like, she wants to be pictures. She's like, I want to paint a house. She loves painting. And because Rapunzel Entangled is a painter, she's like, I want to paint like

Rapunzel. That's cute. All right. Smock. Did you let her have her second cake pop? Janet, you want to talk about the second cake pop? It was a full-blown fight this morning because it was still on the counter. I brought her some cake pops for her first day of school. There were these very healthy muffins in a basket in front of it. And Brock moved the basket today. She sees the cake pop.

She wants the cake pop for breakfast. Had to give my kid half a cake pop for breakfast to get her hair fixed because once she saw it there was no turning back so i'm like have a bite of fruit and then a bite of cake and then a bite i'm like thanks aunt janet answer the best i'm the fun aunt yes rock was like you don't have to give her sugar to make her like you and i was like yes i do but she did make a deal that she would only have half and she put the other half in a ziploc baggie for after school okay so yeah just not a habit of giving my kid cake for breakfast every once in a while but you know it's like pick your battles do i want to have a kicking screaming toddler do i want to give her

half a cake pop to get her hair looking as cute as it did today a cake pop is like two bites of cake so yeah and then get this she was mommy do you want a bite and i'm like uh-huh i took a massive bite she was that was a big bite i'm like i don't even like sweets really but whenever she has something i will take the biggest bite so she has less on her tiny little perfect. Yeah. But anyway, okay. So we've got a lot of topics to get into. It has been a very heavy week with so many beloved media figures and celebrities passing away.

There was an assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. The SNL parody of that same former president had had his case dismissed for accidentally shooting someone on set and before we get into all of the vat are there some positives we can touch on from this past week i mean like we had all those baby shower baby shower that was, we had Lola's baby shower. That was so cute. Baby monsoon, we said. Oh, why is it a monsoon and not a moon? Because she didn't have a baby shower for the first baby.

Okay. When she was pregnant with Ocean, she never had a baby shower. So normally you have like a big baby shower for your first. Yeah, why didn't she? I think she just wasn't in a happy place. It was also COVID. It was. I mean, I still had one.

I made everyone COVID test and whatnot. It was a very small one. But yeah, just the time of it. And then she ended up having to get induced a few weeks early. And I think it just was just the timing and the person she was with. But normally then for the second baby, you have like a sprinkle because you already have all of the stuff. And she's like, I'm doing a monsoon.

Oh, that's smart. We didn't have a shower. We didn't have a sprinkle. So we're just going to full a monsoon. Oh, that's smart. We didn't have a shower. We didn't have a sprinkle. So we're just going to full-blown monsoon. And it was so fun. It was really fun. Yeah. And I will say too, because somebody asked me,

oh, monsoon. So she's expecting a lot of gifts. And I was like, no, actually, she said no gifts. No gifts. She only had donations to Alexandria House. Yes. Okay. So I was, someone was like,

oh, she's asking for all these monsoon gifts. I was like, no, no, no. No, no, no. She's doing donations to a good cause. But it was so fun. My favorite part was all three of the little mini me. Oh, my gosh. Destroyed the flower wall afterwards. All of a sudden we look over and there's just potpourri essentially everywhere. It was really cute. I feel like someone gave permission, though, like they were going to have to tear it down. And so once they saw like they were starting to take the decorations on, like, we'll help help and then it was just i mean literally everywhere and then it's like summer did this

ocean did this hartford did this she took my toys she took me i was just like she's throwing flowers at me season one vibes you know no that was the cutest picture i was like i can't believe like they're gonna grow up as friends like that's so cool no it's so cool and just looking at them i mean their personalities already at just three years old i mean they are us in so many ways it's it's crazy they're also wild too it's funny there were a couple little boys like christina kelly's boy who was like over a year yeah somebody else's had a little boy. There were three boys. Danny's boy, Danny Shea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Tiffany Brower's boy.

So there were like the three little boys there and then Cruz. Yeah. And I can't. But all the so the girls are like running around chasing, throwing flowers, doing all this stuff. And all the boys are just like lined up, staring at them, just watching them be crazy. All the boys are sitting calm, chill, and all the girls are running around like crazy. And they just had an audience of all these little boys. It was really cute. Yeah, no, it was a lot

of fun. And then Michelle got there. I felt bad. She's like, wait, I didn't know this was a kid's thing. Now I feel like the worst mom ever for not bringing Isabella. I'm like, it was not supposed to be a kid's thing. It was just when our husbands decided to go golfing together. I know you're bringing the baby. It's a baby. That's different. But I'm like, well, my mom and sister are coming. We don't have help on the weekends, like nanny wise. So I'm like, well, I'm going to have to bring Summer. And she's like, that's OK. I'll have Ocean there and we'll have someone to watch them. But that same person who watches Ocean also watches Cruise. So then Cruise had to come. Oh, well, if Ocean, Cruise and Summer are going to be there, then Hartford's going to be there. And so then it was like, poor Zuly's got like five toddlers she's chasing.

There's a pool, like we're at the rooftop at the Mayborn. And she had her hands full. It was a lot, literally. There was one point where she was holding my son, Cameron, chasing around after all the, and I'm like, and they're all running by the pool. And I'm like, should I get my baby from her? I feel like this is kind of a lot.

But she was like handling it very well. She had eight arms and was just like got it all done. Literally. Yeah. So that was fun. That's some positive news. Yeah. Also, I don't know if you saw, I posted a video on Summer's page

of her singing Part of Your World. Oh, no, I don't think I saw. Oh my God god so here's the thing every time she's singing this song she does that lion king a whole new world let it go like she has her songs that and she gets like into it like facial expressions and everything i can't get videos of her usually when she's singing i'm just in the moment and i'm just like i'll remember all of these times hopefully there was one night we were staying at our friend Will and Elaine's and when she was falling asleep she was singing and I

just put my voice recorder on and I just have like a four minute of her singing this whole Disney medley that she just went from song to song to song so I'm like I have that but whenever we're doing the videos she's in her swing and it's just I've not been able to get one yeah and when we left a birthday party the other day Brock and I went to one of my high school friends 40th and my parents and my sister took summer home and she was singing it in the car my sister just had the phone right there so it's like from the side in her car seat and she is just getting it like with the hands and the face and just feeling it and i'm like sing sing sing never let anyone tell you that you can't sing yeah yeah it was just oh it was so precious i love that kids today have like

so much footage of them because it's like how hard it was in like the 80s and 90s yeah i mean you've done a bulky like video game it wasn't as easy you easy to tape over your parents, like whatever they had recorded on a VHS tape. Oh my God. Can I tell you my sister's baptism got taped over by a fucking Raider game. Oh, we're like walking into the church and all of a sudden it cuts to a Raider game. Oh no,

Ron. I know. We're not even Raider fans. Yeah. Sorry. Those moments are gone, but it's okay. She's not even Catholic anymore. So wait.

Also this weekend, did I see that you got to spend a day in the Big Brother house? I did. Oh my God. That was so much fun. Tell me about it. So it was the first time they were ever doing it. They invited like nine influencers to see, you know, Big Brother 26 came out this week and they were like you're gonna be the first in the world to see the house and we're gonna let you spend a day in the house

essentially you're gonna play a week's worth of big brother in a single day but we were allowed to have our phones because obviously we're creating content right but it was so awesome like we literally like you know bring our bags you know, bring our bags, you know, we have all of our stuff, you know, we make alliances. We have a head of household competition. We have nominations. We have veto competition, you know, scheming. It was so much fun. Do you think you would ever do Big Brother? So what I, I have such a respect in a different way for the show. Cause sometimes you watch that show and you're just like, why are you doing this? Shut up. And you realize, like, even with my phone, when you have nothing else to do but to talk to people, you just start like gossiping or like thinking of things to do.

I don't think I could do 100 days without my phone. I think. Oh, hell no. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I didn't realize it was that long. Then you even go into the what's the other house called after you get voted out?

You go into the like, like, I don't know, that sequester halfway. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, they're like holding you in that. I would love if they turn this into like maybe they would do a big brother influencer thing for like a week. I could do a week without my phone at the most because that's just a vacation. What's the cash prize? Is it a million dollars? Like seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. because that's just a vacation. What's the cash prize?

Is it a million dollars? It's like $750,000. So it's like, you know, give up three months of your life, which is still just like- For a chance. So long. It's so long. And you don't, you're not,

obviously no phones, no TV. The only books you can have are like the Bible and like religious material. Oh my gosh. And I was like, you know, obviously I would just, I've never read the Bible.

So I was like, I'll just bring it because it would be the one time. And I was like, I know, obviously I would just, I've never read the Bible. So I was like, I'll just bring it. Cause it would be the one time. And I was like, I'd be so like uneducated about the Bible. I'd be like, Oh my God, you guys ever read La Bible?

There's this guy named Jesus. And he hangs out with hookers. And you're always lit. Cause he turns water into wine. Like I would, I feel like I would gossip everybody to death out of there i would just talk so much that like with no phone and no tv you gossip can you believe it but i would just everyone would be like i'm quitting i have had enough she won't shut the fuck up give me my phone

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Your cashback really adds up. Well, that was an interesting conversation. Just kidding. Your cash back really adds up. Well, that was an interesting conversation. Just kidding. Okay. No, but back to a little bit more serious because over this past weekend, we saw four celebrities have passed away. Dr. Ruth, Richard Simmons, Shannon Doherty,

and Jacoby Jones. So sad. And it's just, it's so insane. They always say like people die in threes. And then I heard about Jacoby Jones yesterday and sad. And it's just, it's so insane. They always say like people die in threes and then I heard about Jacoby Jones yesterday and he was 40 years old.

He died in his sleep and it just like, I remember watching him on Dancing with the Stars. He came into Sir. I waited on him. Oh, wow. And it's just,

it's so crazy. I mean, Dr. Ruth was like a pioneer who, you know, changed how society speaks about sex. Did you watch her show back in the day? I did. I loved it. Oh my gosh. It was like a pioneer who you know changed how society speaks about sex. Did you watch her show back

in the day? I loved it. I did it. Oh my gosh. It was like a naughty show that I like wasn't allowed to be watching but I did. Yeah. Also not this might be like offensive but I didn't know she was still alive. I don't like I thought because she was so old back in the day when I watched that show.

That you know after her show was off I was like oh I just thought she had, like, if you would ask me before this weekend, I would be like, if she's alive, she's 112 years old. Like, she's just, but she lived, you know, a long, great life. Yeah.

It's so much for women and sex. No, it's like, how many people out there did she, you know, educate on topics that had been previously considered taboo? Yeah. I learned what a blow job was from her show thanks dr ruth and then richard simmons i saw our friend meredith had posted a photo with him i think did she used to take classes with him or his she said it she did it as kind of

like a touristy thing when she first moved to la but his it was when his studio was still open and i had a couple other friends john joseph do you know John Joseph? He posted same sort of thing from his workout class. And you used to just be able to go and it was like reasonably priced and he would be the instructor for all the classes and then would stick around and take photos with people afterwards. And when he was still running his studio, I know he kind of went into hiding, like, I don't even know, or hiding or just took a step back but he said something like at some point that he didn't want to be remembered as like Old and slow and all that he wanted to be remembered as like lively and moving around in this person so I am glad that like he got to spend the end of his life kind of like

Quiet and like, you know, just like reflecting on all the good times times instead of like really overly pushing himself or i don't know he got like some but did you see the beef that him and paulie shore were kind of having going back and forth that was kind of paulie shore recently yeah because paulie shore obviously he looks a lot like richard simmons and he really loved and he wanted to do this biopic and he was like kind of gonna do what sounded like this unauthorized biopic whether he liked it or not and then richard sim was like, I don't want you doing my life story. And he was like, we're flying on Facebook. And so he was like, Richard, I love you. Like, you know, his mom Mitzi owned, I don't know, the comedy shop or whatever the comedy store was in New York.

And he's like, we used to be, you know, he's just like, I would love to do this. I would, you know, I think that you're, I don't know where they ended up, if they ever like resolved it or whatever. But Richard was like, I want someone else to do my biopic. so if we see paulie shore playing richard simmons soon we know that that was against his wishes i know oh i ran into paulie shore recently at a super bowl event in vegas and i mean he's someone you know i grew up watching and i remember meeting him at miami super bowl like 15 years ago or something and he gave me his phone number and I'm like the fuck am I gonna do with Pauly Shore's phone number I see him at this event like 15 years later and I looked and I saw this I'm like should I just like text that number and see if he looks

at his phone I would call and I would just be like it's the weed soul and then I'd hang up oh my god son-in-law that movie was so iconic back in the day. But yeah, Richard Simmons. I felt like he was just a person who was just like positivity, encouragement, you know, just always trying to get everyone to just love their bodies. And yeah, I just. He's iconic. Very much.

And also like Shannon Doherty. I mean, we all grew up with her 90210 charmed the heathers it's like she was that girl she was so iconic and i know she had been battling this for so long but just seeing that and just also so young yeah that's the thing the the age i guess like with her it's like it's strange watching somebody that just seems like a little bit older than you. Yeah. And then I don't know.

Yeah. Dr. Ruth. I'm like, she, you know, lived well into her 90s. Like, that's a great long life. I hate when it happens too soon. Yeah. And I'm like, is Winona the only Heather left? Because I know that like.

Oh, yeah. I felt like the other three, I think they might be gone. But I don't know. I don't. Yeah, I was. That one hurt a lot because I know she like she was fighting so hard. And it was like such a like I remember when it was she was diagnosed. She was saying how it was because she didn't know her insurance through SAG had lapsed.

And then it was like that whole fight. So it's just like all of these things that felt like it added up and I felt so bad for her. But I do appreciate that she like did her podcast and was like, and I don't want these motherfuckers at my funeral.

Like I know there's people who would show up just for like the PC reason, but fuck them. Yeah. I want to make a list of that now too. I do not want you

at my funeral. For the record. Yeah. I saw this picture of her and Luke Perry, and it was just like, oh, angels. Yeah, reunited again. I saw something like that. Yeah, so crazy.

Did you post that? Or I was like, wait. I don't think I did. Okay, it was, yeah, someone I follow posted that. But, oh, so crazy. Just like so many. It's like you just kept hearing about another and wild. So yeah, just a lot of

iconic people and um then with the attempted assassination attempt it's just like it was such a crazy weekend and then i don't watch the news you know i get my news from like following y'all or like mark will fill me in you know i see a tweet or something. But I don't know if any of you saw this, but last week, JFK's grandson, Jack Schlossberg, the son of Catherine Kennedy, he was hired by Vogue to be their new political correspondent. So have you seen any of his TikToks? He looks so much like a Kennedy.

Yeah. Like he has like Kennedy face. He has like so much like a kennedy yeah like he has like kennedy face yeah yeah he has like more of like a unique approach to covering politics and it's like lighter but still affirmative and effective so that's like the kind of politics i want to follow follow them but it's like that was definitely a smart move on vogue's part because i feel like you know when you're trying to get younger people involved in voting and whatnot it's like you you got gotta have a new approach especially with the fucking gen zers you know yeah in the medium of tiktok or something that's actually going to be accessible to the younger generation and it's like you know with the fyp page and you can throw in that stuff we've got the election this year so

yeah i mean graduated from harvard and he's an attorney and whatnot. Got that Kennedy charm. But it seems like his career in politics is just getting started. And so he was hired last week. And then the first political event for him to cover turns out to be the attempted assassination attempt on former President Trump. Crazy. Yeah. And it's like his own grandfather was assassinated as well as his great uncle, Bobby Kennedy. Like how crazy. Yeah. This is like here and now cover it yeah the world is such a weird the way everything sort of strings together

it doesn't feel accidental sometimes yeah was he alive when jfk was assassinated how old is he no i don't think he's not that old he never knew him yeah so that's i mean that's i don't know it's just crazy that that's i don't know has such a close tie to him because i'm sure he had grew up with all of his family yeah talking about it telling stories their personal experiences to know what it's like to have your own family have that personal experience and then see it and have to report on it is really wild and then i saw on twitter i don't know if it was after elon took over but like the videos of jfk's assassination going viral like i'm like how is this allowed to be posted yeah what so crazy but on the topic of Jack, I saw that this girl posted over the weekend about how she matched with him on Raya, but fumbled that for a 29 year old man in Ontario who now has her blocked.

So here's my question to you. If you're single and you have a shot with American royalty, do you have your eye on the prize and you shoot your shot or are you fumbling i would shoot my shot because i feel like my mom would kill me if i didn't yeah absolutely like why not i want to be the megan markle i mean if megan king edmunds can get oh yeah like She married Biden's nephew. I'm like if she could do it there's hope for the rest of us. Didn't last very long.

Quick few months but she still got in. She still had a presidential wedding. She still showed up exactly at the wedding. Speaking of Real Housewives of Orange County did we see the premiere? What did we think? I watched it last night. Feels like it's drumming up some good juicy content. of Orange County. Oh, yeah. Did we see the premiere? What did we think? I watched it last night. So good.

Feels like it's drumming up some good juicy content, right? Yeah. I didn't realize. So I have not been an avid watcher the last several seasons. Like I watched it religiously for maybe six years

and then I didn't. Then I watched a season and then it was like Heather left. So I'm like, fuck this. And then it was like she came back. So then I watched it again. So I've not watched religiously, but i didn't realize how long it's been since alexis was on the damn show yeah i've since like season eight she was on like five through eight yeah

i had to go on wikipedia last night i'm like how long has it been since she's been around well and i feel like the i don't know maybe there was already something that works but did she only get asked back after she started dating Shannon's ex? I think so. And how big is this guy's dick that he has these amazing, beautiful women chasing after him? I'm looking at this guy and I'm like, I'm sorry. Shannon said she paid for all of his stuff. So I'm like, he's not rich.

I'm just like, he must be packing. It doesn't I don't it doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't get it. I always just assume that it can't just be a big dick because there's lots of big dicks. You also have to be really good at going down because I feel like literally a big dick can't just do the job. You got to quit. You don't do anything with the dick in the clip.

So I'm just like, what is happening here? They're like fighting over. This is it. This is the prize. Remember Sex and the City? There was like that guy was like Mr. Pussy or something. Oh, yeah. Like maybe he's the Mr. Pussy of OC.

I mean, there's got to be something. But we need to make T-shirts that say that. I just have to say I have always been team Shannon. I love her. I remember meeting her her first season on the show. She has always been nothing but lovely to me. And I thought she handled things perfectly, you know, going into that first group outing kind of being on the outs. But I mean, she went up to Gina, you know, neutralize that with an apology right away. And then it was just like, if I'm doing this,

I'm doing this. I'm just going to go and get it done. And it's like, respect. It's not easy. And I can only imagine, at least I know the feeling I get when I'm filming reality TV. And I know I have to go in and like have a conversation with like a Katie or someone. And I'm like, stay calm. But it's like just that feeling, that tightness in your chest you get. And it's like, hell yeah, girl, good on you. You're just like, let's rip the bandaid right off. I feel like she's normally, Shannon, just, I've never met her or anything, but from seeing her on the show, she seems like she gets flustered and anxious easily.

And I was actually very surprised with how calm and cool she stayed, especially when talking to Alexis outside. She was like, all right, let's do this. Let's talk. I loved also that they kept in them like shuffling around the table. The producers were like, stop, stop.

She's like, we asked. Dragging this table, like probably creating like a dent in their like country. But I'm just like, it's just funny that they showed that like setup too and kind of a behind the scenes.

I love those moments. Yeah. And I liked how Gina also was like, make sure it's in good lighting. Yeah. Gina was a surprise. I will say that first episode, I was like very impressed

by Gina who she's become. Like I was like very impressed by Gina, who she's become like, she's being very forgiving of Shannon, which, you know, let's be real. She does not have to be. And even just like her relationship now,

right. She's being very kind of like, Oh yeah. Like I, I can't take care of you. My kids need their own space. Like, you know,

yeah. Yeah. I adore her. I met her at a charity event that Jared hosted. She came with Travis. They were lovely. She came up to me. She's like, you look familiar.

I was like, I'm on a Bravo show now. She's like, oh my gosh. Yeah. She was so nice. She invited me on her podcast and she has been so lovely. I said like, she's like, I feel like Bravo kind of feels like Greek life sometimes or like sorority. It's like different sorority houses, but we're all on the same campus.

And she just gives me like big sister vibes. Oh, amazing. Yeah, she's really sweet. No, I've always liked her too. I feel like that conversation with Alexis and Shannon, Alexis was anticipating it being a conversation about John Jansen. Yeah. And I'm sorry, trying to do the rebrand of the Johnny J.

about john jansen yeah and i'm sorry the trying to do the rebrand the johnny jay i did like and heather there's no way she can take credit for the aoli and mayo thing i've been saying that i've heard it somewhere else i'm like the rebrand of mayo so i'm like was that a producer line because it's it's a good one yeah and i'm like damn now you're gonna get credit for the mayo aoli rebrand but i was surprised that a was surprised that Alexa like Alexis really thinks it all has to do with John, which I think Shannon actually admitted finally, like, OK, it's not just about John, but it is probably a little bit about John. But I really think that Alexis needs to realize, like, this lawsuit was a big deal. I mean, three hundred,000 and 500.

What did they say that got them in trouble? Is it public? I'm sure we can go back. Yeah, they went on to some podcast and said something about Jim Bellino. I don't remember what it was. We have to like dig it up. But yeah. And then it ended up getting dropped.

But they still had to pay all this money. Yeah. Just to defend yourself. Like, you know, even though Alec Baldwin is off, like he still has to like pay all these people. So yeah, I feel like, and again, I would love if Shannon, because Shannon says that Alexis's name

is on the cease and desist, which cease and desist aren't court documents. So they're not, you know, the lawsuit might've only been Jim, but maybe the cease and desist did have your name on it. And if Shannon can produce that, then I'm sorry.

I think there's a valid reason why I can't, I don't trust being around you. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I love my girl, Shannon, that final,

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And I hope that they're keeping that in. It was just enough to see like, okay, this is you kind of just got to peek at behind the scenes without ruining the whole thing. Yeah, for sure. Well, I can't wait to see the rest of the season. I definitely want to get some of these ladies into shenanigans with us. So stay tuned for that. And you mentioned Alec Baldwin. I do want to get into that. We're going to take another quick little break and be right back. It's summertime and it is that year when it's also summer Olympics time with the Olympics in full swing. Hydration is key for athletes and fans. I personally am obsessed with watching the gymnastics, swimming, rowing. I mean, there are so many sports that I love and the medal ceremony is just incredible.

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So this week, the case against Alex Baldwin in the shooting death of the cinematographer on the set of his movie Rust was dismissed with prejudice, meaning that charges can't be brought again following the revelation that the prosecution had hid evidence from the court. So Kiki, I know you have been covering this case extensively. Do you think this was the right outcome? Oh, absolutely. I first off thought Alex should have been off for other reasons before

we even got to the prosecutor. What are they? Prosecutorial misconduct is what they call. I can never say these words, but yeah, but yeah, I mean, I think that first of all, he wasn't being tried as a producer. So that was a big win for his team anyway. And so you can't hold actors responsible for this sort of thing. Because regardless of whether he did open that gun, we saw blanks and live rounds look the same. Which why? Why are blanks not just like hot pink or something? It doesn't make any sense.

And an untrained eye isn't going to know that. Plus, if an actor was over there fiddling with a gun, they'd be like, what are you doing, you egomaniac? Like, don't touch the gun. We have an armor for that. So already I was like, he needs to be off. Yeah. I actually, someone who is like an extension of our family

is an ex-FBI agent. And he wants to do some gun training with us just so i'm like it could be for an acting role one day but just like if i'm ever in a position where there's a gun i want to know how to properly use it i want to know how to be able to disarm it protect myself or disarm it totally i want to come to that training by the way i've been wanting to learn how to i've never even touched a gun yeah, I talked to Lala about it as well. And we're just like, you know, I feel like this is something that is important. And guns have always freaked me out.

But it's like, I want to be able to know the proper. A responsible gun owner. Absolutely. Just the basics. Yeah. So, yeah. But I was also thinking, you know, if I ever play a cop on TV, it could also help. I would love to see you playing a cop. Wouldn't it be fun? Yeah. Yeah. We'll see.

But wait now, Alec Baldwin, is he doing a reality show right now? Yes. So do we think that the reality show is like filming this? Oh, yeah. The reality cameras. It looked like there was someone absolutely there who looked like a reality show person. They never confirmed it, but I think for sure. And I was like trying to wonder why, like, why was he doing this was a rehab thing. But then I was like, no, he needs the money, the legal bills that he and the settlement that, you know, there's still civil settlements. Doesn't he have like 46 kids too? Oh, my God.

Exactly. More than Nick Cannon? I mean, not more than Nick Cannon, but he has a lot of kids. Yeah, he has kids before her, but he has a lot of kids. He has kids before her, but then he has seven with her. Wow. And they're like all a year apart. Like that woman is always pregnant.

Yeah. That's insane. They're both just must be like the most fertile human beings ever. That is crazy. I didn't realize they had that many kids. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah.

So I'm actually very excited for that reality show just to see how you deal with seven children. Yeah. That are all like they're like I want to say their oldest is like 12 or something like already the trailer. I was like, oh my God, I have a headache. Seriously. They're New York based, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So they're not going to be running filming

around LA, but yeah. I can't wait to see how that plays out. Yeah. Interesting. So I'm like so many topics to talk about how much time do we got okay we were texting a little bit about this last night but i want to talk about this on the podcast so maren morris there was a video of her that's kind of gone viral and i'm like i don't know if i'm seeing this correctly if my eyes are deceiving me but she's on stage performing she has a long on one side jean skirt but with a really high slit

and the way she's walking back and forth just very nonchalantly performing it's leaving very little to the imagination but i'm like something what what are we looking at here yeah and was that on purpose was it like a wardrobe malfunction i feel like something what what are we looking at here yeah and was that on purpose was it like a wardrobe malfunction i feel like it's never on purpose it has to be on i see i feel like it always has to be on purpose i feel like she was this is my theory i think she was supposed to wear something else something happened that was like the next option but she hadn't really gotten a chance to like see how it moves like i don't know you're are you just you think she's purposely just showing the puss i mean or was it nude underwear it's made to right that's

what i'm wondering a puss all i know is if that were me you would know because it would be a dead animal in there poor jason for fourth of july j Janet goes, I shaved for you guys. I'm like, Jason, you're welcome. I had to be in a bathing suit for the first time in a long time. He was like, thank you. So I was like, send help. Can't find it.

But I mean, Maren wouldn't be the first celebrity to flash some vag, you know? I mean, Britney Spears, I think we all remember that. Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Chrissy Teigen. It's like, but would you wear something like that without anything under? No, there's no way. I'm not a commando girly in general. I have to have those. See, I am a commando, but I'll wear like a, it's when I'm wearing like a giant spaghetti,

like, you know, long dress. Full coverage. Yeah. Yeah. Spaghetti like you know Something that's dressed Full coverage I have like the nude Like no show where I have the ones that they stick Right here and then go up your butt and stick right here Really? So it doesn't have sides on it Yeah I can't just like Be out and free

Also post having a baby I don't know if this has happened for you yet I mean there are times where honestly I sneeze and I Peel it off I'm just always afraid of a little leakage I haven't had a kid and I still sometimes sneeze and pee a little So what does that say about me? I don't know Like me and the boys

Have this joke now where every time I perform Like after the show they go did you pee? And I'm like jumping up and down And I'm like oh shit So yeah you know I should start doing ads for Poise Ultr again I need to get some more it depends it depends well I did I was using poise and that's like what I wear but yeah it's like if you go commando you can't have a panty liner so I have to have something yeah you never know when you're gonna sneeze I feel like it's not ever purposeful like all the yeah people like I feel like most of the celebs you just named were most of them

getting out of cars and then all of a sudden there's papar people, like I feel like most of the celebs you just named were most of them getting out of cars and then all of a sudden there's paparazzi there and I feel like you're not, I don't know, like getting out of a car is awkward. It became a thing. Like one person accidentally

in the early 2000s or whatever accidentally did it and then they were like, oh my God. And then everyone started doing it on purpose after that. Britney Spears, I don't think was on purpose.

Yeah. So maybe she was like the person everybody was like. I can understand maybe like showing, like being like, all right, like I'm wearing a sheer she was like the person i can understand maybe like showing like being like all right like i'm wearing a sheer top or like and here's my nipples like i'm gonna let one nip side yeah but you can never guarantee that your vagina is gonna look good at like certain angles and stuff so like getting out the car i feel like there's stuff there could be like i don't know it's. I was trying to take,

I was taking pictures of my vagina to send to my boyfriend. And I like the amount of rounds you have to go through. Oh my God. I wouldn't even ever try. I, one relationship I did. And I just, I do.

I remember the amount of pictures you got to take until you get that one. Yeah. No, because you can't have someone else do it. You're doing it yourself. Right. I could send Jason just a picture of a regular beaver. He would be like, look sexy, babe. He's like, I haven't seen what yours looks like in a while.

I remember when I was pregnant, accidentally getting a I was like, I have a a full-length mirror that I'd sit and do my makeup in front of and when I was pregnant I was still doing that and I was in my robe and I caught a glimpse of my vagina and I was like oh I was like what is what has happened down there it was like things were getting ready it was like I was very pregnant and things were getting ready to move and I was like is this I had a full meltdown and Jason was like it looks fine and then oh he's so I did a little peek afterwards I was like okay things go back people thanks but look here's the thing with Jason I gotta say I have your back in this situation because the first time y'all hooked up and he went down on you it was full bush so you set yourself up for this live jason you said he's gonna murder me after this podcast

or me remind me to text my mom after this and tell her not to listen to this one oh my god i forget which one recently oh my mom was listening to one and mom if you're listening now just turn it down for the next 20 seconds we christened the house we did it we did it yeah my mom was like i don't want to know what you're doing when i have your daughter tonight i listened to your podcast sheena and i just don't even want to know so it's like yeah i am gonna do that and we did in bed or somewhere else in bed wow okay the in bed ones usually only happen at hotels because i'm like you know there's some squirting action and i don't have to clean up after myself. It's true. I didn't know that. That I squirt? Yeah. Why would you know that?

I don't know. I feel. I know. I know. I know a lot about you. I feel like it is strange that I didn't know that. Well, Brock can get me too. So maybe that's why you didn't know. But I'm turning red. I feel embarrassed right now. I don't know if I've ever met a squirter. Okay, miss, you're the one who told me I needed to use a vibrator for the first time. We could go back five years on shenanigans. I know. Vibrators equal squirting. Aren't you happy that I got you to do this?

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yeah but um she is pregnant congratulations however despite i think there was a rumored like net worth of three million or something assuming from her show licensing rights i don't know her life story advance on a book whatever she shared a link to her baby registry so all of the items that were on there were almost purchased immediately wow would you have purchased something from like a celebrity or a public figures registry absolutely not i just go to be nosy i remember when paris hilton put her registry up or someone found it for her wedding. And I was just like, wow. What does she want? What does she need? They were the article about Gypsy Rose's registry.

They were like, and she's putting these massively expensive items. And I went and looked and it was like a $600 car seat slash stroller. And I'm like, that's actually reasonable. That's the price. Baby stuff is expensive. The stuff that she had on there was not. It's not like she had like $1 hundred dollar lamps or like, you know, something that was like outrageous.

Like it was all kids stuff that just is expensive. Strollers are expensive. Car seats are expensive. Like all of the she had like two bassinets that were like a couple hundred bucks each. I'm like, yeah, that shit's expensive. Yeah. But also I'm sure Gypsy Rose could like call Google Guru and get all of this stuff for trade and just like not have to have a registry and have people buying her all this stuff.

I wondered if it was maybe part of some sort of deal that she did with BabyList because BabyList was the registry place and it got all this press. So I feel like maybe it was a collab with BabyList. I don't know. That would make sense because I'm like, there's so many brands you can partner with and that's what i loved about i did i worked with the company called goo goo guru and i've put so many of my friends in touch with them because even if you're not an influencer and you're not going to partner with the brands they have the access to information on every single brand they know what's the best what's not's baby safe, what's good for sleep and all of that. And then they do have so many brands

that want to work with people. And it's like, I loved being able to partner with a brand and then also do giveaways for like moms in need and whatnot. So hopefully there was something with BabyList because I'm like, that's like a missed opportunity. That makes sense. You're one of the biggest public figures right now. And this is like a huge, nice, worthy story.

Were you surprised, you know, obviously having kids that she announced it at 11 weeks. Yes. Pretty early. Yeah. Yeah. It's one thing to announce to your inner circle and whatnot,

but here's the thing. I say yes, but then also I hate that there is this taboo and the stigma around. You have to wait until a certain amount because what if something happens yeah because then you're not allowed to share your miscarriage it does happen you know and then it's like and if it does then you know you have all of this talk about it yeah and there are people who i've heard 16 weeks and then i recently there's a couple they guest start on lopez versus lopez recently there's a couple they guest starred on lopez versus lopez they're pretty big on tiktok and i think they were at 25 or 26 weeks and just lost their baby and i can't even imagine at that

far so it's like as a public figure i would think that yeah you you tell your inner circle maybe don't announce publicly but at the same time it's like fuck it you want to share that news with the world you know like no you should be able to do that whenever you want i actually think that you should start become an activist for this because i'm realizing what a patriarchal thing to say like we don't want to hear about your women problems yeah and what people need to know is like if you do have a miscarriage you might need to have a medically induced abortion yeah we need to talk about abortion right yeah everyone, people are just having abortions just to not take birth control. It's like a medical procedure sometimes that when people really want to have a

kid. So you're right. Let's just start announcing it at two weeks, four weeks. Why not? Yeah. I started, I told friends like my close friends immediately,

which, so I was like five weeks, you know, we typically, when you find out, this is also crazy. I don't know if you know this, when you like,

okay, the pregnancy clock or your week count starts at the first day of your last period. So like it starts, then you ovulate like two weeks later. So like when Jason, I had sex to make our son, I found out two weeks after we had had sex,

but then I was four weeks pregnant, even though when we could see. You're pregnant before you're pregnant. You're pregnant. What? The clock starts. It's a really weird thing because I was like,

oh, I'm two weeks pregnant. Like we had said, I know when we conceived and they're like, no, you're four weeks pregnant. I'm like, that's impossible because I know when I, and it's a weird clock.

So most people find out, I think the earliest you can find out is like four weeks or like about that time. And, but earliest you can find out is like four weeks or like about that time and but yeah i started telling friends like four or five weeks like that's kind of okay that makes me even more scared because like i know all of the states that are restricting abortions when they say like at four weeks but if you're just literally finding out like the day you'd have to go to the abortion clinic like the day you find out. Right. Wow. Yeah. Speaking of states, so I read that apparently in Louisiana,

where Gypsy lives, you can't get a divorce while you are pregnant. And once the baby is born, the legal husband has to go on the birth certificate, but the baby she's expecting is actually with her ex-fiance, Ken, and not her husband, Ryan. So Ryan's name has to go on the birth certificate. She can't get divorced, but he's not the dad. What the fuck? Yeah.

And then they have to contest it later and request for change of birth certificate, I think. It's really crazy. Sounds like an awesome season two is all I know for the reality show. I will say, too, when I got pregnant, I was still, my legal last name was still my ex-husband's legal last name.

And while I was pregnant, I changed it. And and luckily you can do that in the state of California but otherwise they would have called baby in the hospital baby my last my last yeah oh my god my first husband's name so I was like I gotta change this because Jason's gonna be annoyed if the whole time we're at the hospital he's being reminded of my first oh my god the way like men like dictate like why I don't like I am carrying this baby you should get my last name regardless I know they did that with Summer as well it was like baby Shay I was like no no no not baby Shay and it was like and thankfully I was in the I mean not thankfully but you know I was in the hospital for so long that they got to know us right away and were able to change it and whatnot but at this point I'm just like you know Shay is just it's

my stage name it is still my legal name it is such a process to change it I know everyone else seems to have an issue with it but it's like I was even thinking last night I was on Gretchen's Instagram and I'm like her last name is Rossi it's's not Smiley. Yeah. You know, she's married with a new husband and a new baby, and she still uses her ex's last name professionally. A lot of people do this. And look, at the end of the day, like, let's be honest. Sometimes we're vain. And like, sometimes a cool last name is a fucking cool last name.

And you're like, I don't want to fucking give it up. Also, if that's the name that you had when you became famous, it's what everybody got to know you as. And then to change it and kind of shift that is difficult. No one's going to start calling had when you became famous. It's what everybody got to know you as. And then to change it and kind of shift that is difficult. Yeah. No one's going to start calling me Sheena Davies. Yeah. Sheena, honey. Like I've tried so hard to just transition back to Marie. It's not catching on. No. All of my music stays under Marie because that's what my old music was. So that's easy. It's what I'm already on Spotify and Apple Music and stuff as my artist name. Everything else, I'm like, it's just Sheena Shea.

It is what it is. I will say if you're ever pregnant, that is the time to go do all of your DMV documents and stuff. I got to skip so many lines because I did everything when I was pregnant. And nobody wanted me to be like, I don't know, waddling around in there looking uncomfortable. I'm just going to wear a belly. Nobody. There you go. There you go. This guy, I remember at the social security office, there was a huge line and I walked in and they immediately let me go to the front of the line. And this guy was like behind me. So he came up and tapped me on the back of my shoulder and was like, excuse me, why did you? And I turned around

with my, like I threw my belt and he was like, oh, never mind. I see that you are. And I was like, yeah, there's a reason they let me skip. It's not just because I'm nice to people. Well, speaking of legal documents and changing names and all of that, I want to end this podcast on one topic, and that is NDAs, non-disclosure agreements, for those of you who don't know, which are quite popular in Hollywood. And even with, you know, the Vanderpump Rules group, Tom Sandoval's former assistant, Anne, has started a podcast about it. And it's like it's a thing that I honestly, I think, first learned about really from Lala. And you've heard about him before, but now I do make people sign them. You know, if you're in my house and you're working a nanny and

my band, like anyone does assistant work for me. I made a joke and said, I was going to send one to my mom and my sister and they didn't think it was funny. And then my sister was like, go ahead. Like they don't hold up in California anyways. And I'm like, I'm joking. You're my family. But it is, you know, something that a lot of people do. But I don't think I realized until recently that some NDAs have an expiration date. And when that happens, sometimes, you know, some tea gets spilled. So, A, I'm wondering if Tom Sandoval only had like

a one-year NDA and that's why she's able to do this podcast or normally five if there's an expiration everyone I've ever signed as far as I know has never had an expiration which is why I'll be taking all my stuff to the grave oh my god smart five years from the time you sign it or five years from the time like you quit or something I guess it depends on how it's written I would say probably from the time you sign it would five years from the time like you quit or something. I guess it depends on how it's written. I would say probably from the time you sign it would make sense. Yeah. And then I think that they can renew it. And I think that's also to protect the people who are having you sign them in case they want to make changes later. OK. There's like a new agreement. Yeah. I would assume. Well, yeah, there's things that you can do like retroactive NDAs where even after you've signed one, you can like, it's like kind of like an addendum or whatever where it's like,

oh, if you do say anything, then like you owe me all of the money I've paid you or like different things like that that I've learned about recently. Crazy. But people like David Bowie's ex-wife, Angela, after 10 years, the NDA expired, she revealed that she once caught her husband in bed with Mick Jagger.

I love that. Yeah, hot. Sexy. Totally sexy. Leonardo DiCaprio apparently uses NDAs to prohibit his employees at his own company from disclosing that they know him at all. That happens. It really depends.

I've worked for a handful of high net worth individual celebrities it really like some people are like hey sign this and this covers like my personal business like when as an assistant you're you know people's medications you know who they're dating like when things happen like their medical history like yeah a lot of stuff in there some people are like i just don't want my details out there, but you can tell people you work for me. Right. Some people are like, don't tell anyone ever,

which makes it hard if you're trying to get a restaurant reservation and you can't use a name sometimes. Or other people are like, use the name for that stuff. But you know, my personal info doesn't, you know, but they really vary.

NDAs do not cover anything illegal. So if somebody, if you're signing an NDA with someone and they do something illegal to you or in front of you, you can still report that. I think we've learned that with Randall Emmett's ex-employees and assistants. Yeah. I'm like, you don't have an NDA. It doesn't matter. A lot of people get really scared by them and think like that, oh, I signed an NDA. I can't

say this and this, even though I saw this person, you know, like do a bunch of illegal drugs or, you know, something that's illegal. No, it's you're, you're safe from that. I learned early on from a lawyer. They're like, look, at the end of the day, it's mostly a deterrent because most people are not educated in law. And it's like some of these things like they won't hold up, but for the most part, it's to scare people. So they won't. Yeah. Which I i get it like you're trusting people with you know i have information on people's finances there's and it's like they they deserve to have privacy in that way and people get screwed over so many times with people you know sharing information and i i get needing that protection and wanting to to keep some things private yeah but i don't know if i saw like my boss and he was David Bowie

and he's in bed with Mick Jagger, I would, I don't, I don't know. Good for her for keeping that under wraps for so long. But there's been rumors of that for a long time. Yeah.

But like not confirmed. Right. There it is. Okay. So before we wrap this up, what I want to know from you both is behind NDAs are, you know,

some big mysteries in Hollywood. If you were able to get through any NDA paywall and find out that information on the other side, who would it be? Epstein. Or like all of that, I think. Yeah. I've always said that, like, I was like, when Michael Jackson's kids were young, I was always like, I can't wait till they're adults and they start spilling the tea. Well, they're not really spilling the tea, but I think I would just love to know more what was happening. Yeah. His ex-wife, Debbie. Yeah.

I know. Like whose kids are those? I need to know. Yeah. Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise. Yeah. Oh, that would be a good one. What does she really think about Scientology?

Yeah. I would like to know that. And, you know, what didn't she like flee in the middle of the night or something like rumor I would be surprised what happened rumor? Yeah, yeah, I feel like I mean what about OJ? like apparently on his Deathbed he demanded all of his family's sign one before visiting him Hmm, I see i sometimes i wonder if people just say those things though to like make it still more juicy or if it's like really

you know yeah there's been times too where i've haven't signed an nda for somebody but i've lied to other people and said i did so because i don't like it's an easy way to be like oh i can't talk about that at all that's smart yeah we have DAs for each other. Did you sign yours? Anyway, thank you, ladies, for being here today, getting into some shenanigans. Make sure you follow Kiki and Janet at the Talk of Shame

and just at Janet. All right. We will be back next week. I'm going to London. We're going to see if we can get into some UK shenanigans and see you next week I'm going to London we're gonna see if we can get into some UK shenanigans and

see you next week bye bye Sheena Shea Shea FK thanks for listening to shenanigans with Sheena Shea

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