Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - I Don't Get It with Ashley Iaconetti and Naz Perez

Episode Date: March 11, 2020

Scheana is hanging out with Bachelor nation star Ashley Iaconetti and her podcast producer Naz Perez to talk about their podcast, “I Don’t Get It,” Ashley and Jared’s wedding, Scheana freezing her eggs for the third time, and what the future of the Bachelor could be! Special thanks to hulu! Start your free trial today at hulu.com .See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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today at Hulu.com. From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, guys? Getting back into some shenanigans. I brought my vlog camera for the first time today. So you're going to start to see some behind the scenes, in studio stuff here at Podcast One. And then in what I'm starting this weekend, my weekend project is going to be renovating my extra room,

turning that into a studio podcast, shooting YouTube media space. But anyways, before we get into all of that and catching up with me, I want to introduce my guest this week. We have Ashley I, now with an H. How are you? Yeah, Ashley IH. It's me. Hello. I'm good.

And from your podcast, your co-host, Naz Perez. How are you? Hello. Oh, my God. I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, I'm excitedhost, Naz Perez. How are you? Hello. Oh, my God. I'm so excited to be here. Yeah, I'm excited to have you here. Your sister's missing. We got an empty chair.

Yeah, I know. It's, like, hard to get the three of us in a room. It really is. It's the only hour that we record the podcast. Scheduling a podcast is, like, nightmarish. I mean, one hour a week with that many schedules. It's hard. Yeah.

A few of us from Vanderpump Rules are shooting a commercial together tomorrow because I could do Friday, she couldn't do Thursday, then I'm flying Toronto next, and it was just like trying to coordinate four to five people's

very busy schedules. This is what I told people when they're like, why haven't the Friends cast reunited yet? I go, do you know how hard it is to get three people

in a room together? It's like a miracle. That's a really good point. So I have my camera here. We're just going to be shooting some fun B-roll. I want you guys to be able to see a little bit more behind-the-scenes stuff in my life because you don't get a whole lot of anything other than me and a cute boy in a sur dress on Vanderpump Rules. So I just got to, you know, kind of take this into my own hands and show you guys the rest of my life that you don't get to see.

So anyway. All right. So what I've been doing is I'm trying to reformat, just kind of like have more of a structure to my podcast and just like jumping in talking shit and then being like wait what were we just saying yeah so um i'm doing a catch up with what's been going on my life because things have been changing literally weekly and then i have some questions for you girls and then at the end i have some questions from fans. Sounds so fun. So, yeah. So, to catch you guys up from last week, I was in London, which you are going to hear about on the Hannah podcast more than this one, but it was incredible. I know you saw I was in Stonehenge. It was so dope.

We had this, like, really cool tour where we went to the Windsor Castle, Stonehenge, and then went to Bath and saw the Roman Bath and these really cool churches. It was so much fun. When I hear the word Stonehenge, when you said that you went there, I forgot that that was a real place. Do you know what I'm saying? In my head, it's sort of this mythical that was a real place. Do you know what I'm saying? Like in my head, it's like sort of this mythical, like made up place that has, and aren't there like, isn't there some type of weird energy at Stonehenge? Yeah. I don't know if I felt anything with the energy necessarily.

I was on like no sleep. We did that. So we flew on, it was like a Monday at like 3 p.m. So then we get there like Tuesday morning, 9 a.m. I didn't sleep on the whole flight because my mom gave me a guilt trip. And she was like, I can't sleep on flights. I get anxiety. She'd never been on a flight that long.

And so she was like literally guilt tripping me to stay awake with her. And so I was like, all right. That's so funny. That's a good, I don't get it, Ashley. Actually, it's like if you're on a road trip with someone and someone's tired or you're flying with someone, do you have to stay awake? No. Is that the respectable thing or can you just go to sleep? In a road trip, it depends if you're going overnight.

Like, you know. Yeah. I mean, you should be able to sleep in the car and you switch off when, you know, there's like, okay, your turn to drive, my turn to sleep, my turn to sleep, your turn to drive. So she gave me a guilt trip and I ended up watching like five movies and like a full season of Grace and Frankie. Were you even interacting with her? I mean, yeah, we were sitting next to each other and then we had like our meals and whatnot. Yeah, but you're watching your own show.

Well, no. So when my mom and I fly together, we literally push play. No, we push play at the same time. That's so hard to do. One time we tried to do that and it's like even if you start a second off, you can like find something out first. Yeah, so we were watching movies together.

But then it's like when we get there, I'm so excited. So I hadn't slept. And then that night, by the time I got to sleep, it was like the next get there i'm so excited so i hadn't slept and then that night by the time i got to sleep it was like the next day i had like four hours sleep where it was a 12 hour tour yeah but um wait okay so stonehenge like do you have any more theories on how it could have been now that you've seen it in real life and this is where all the stones are in a circle yeah and then there's like big ones on top of.

Right. And no one knows how it got there. Right. Is that the story? Yeah. People like think that like other worldly beings did it. I was napping while he was explaining. We had like an hour and a half between each place and we started at the castle.

And then after the castle was like everything was catching up to me. I was like, I'm going to nap for the next hour and a half. So I missed all of the history behind it. But my Aunt Dee was filling me in. And I would need to go back and watch the stuff that I filmed because I don't remember. But, I mean, probably aliens. I don't know. Do they know when it was done?

I think so. She's like, stop asking me. I don't know. I don't remember. Watch my London vlog coming soon. Now I want to go to Stonehenge. Yeah. So that was dope. But other than that, so I, my boyfriend and I this weekend are taking my extra bedroom.

I have a two bedroom apartment and literally half of my apartment is a waste of like $2,000 of rent money i'm like yeah there's an extra bathroom there's extra closets but this room i have like a day bed and a trundle in it and no one ever sleeps there i know it's just for looks and it's like i have like a whole vanity set up and all and i'm like i don't do my makeup in there i sit on the couch or i stand in front of my bathroom mirror like over the counter i like don't sit at my vanity anymore because the way the mirror is angled. I never fix it because it looks cool. But then when you sit, it's like not angled the right way to do makeup.

So I just don't do my makeup there. And those lights get really hot. Wait, speaking of vanities, because of you, a couple years ago, whenever it was your own Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. I bought one of those travel kits with the lights. Yeah, they're awesome. I'd never seen that before. Me neither.

The first time I met Ashley, remember the first day I literally met you, you took me to the bathroom to show it to me. And she's like, isn't this the coolest thing ever? I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it was like one of my first, like, it wasn't sponsored. I just reached out to the brand and it was like $300 or and i said can you guys give this to me i'm sure it'll be caught on camera and i'll like post about it or what what not yeah before you'd even like get paid for things and she's so genius yeah there was that way back i had no discount code or anything if only i had had a code for that the amount of sales that would have run this around in my name. Yeah, because I bought one at full price.

I kind of want to buy one now. I, like, forgot about that. Well, it's only good for long stays. Right. You know, you're not going to go take that when you have a three-day trip. Right, exactly. Not going to lie. Bought it two years ago.

Haven't used it. There you go. I have it. When I lived in Vegas, though, that was, like, my vanity, just, like, a mirror that I used when I would, like, get ready sometimes. And then I now have it in my Palm Springs house. So if I'm just, like, sitting at the table in Palm Springs and I can, like, have that little setup. But I saw it and I just thought it was so cool. It's like, I have to have this.

And then I'm like, I bought it, but I haven't gone anywhere long enough to, like, fully use it. So I just use it for the mirror and the lights. That's so funny. I was like, you guys, I am known for doing my makeup. This is going to be on camera somehow. I think that's one of the things that I, like the second you were on the show, I was just like, oh, this is my girl. And I'm like, I never like to compare other people to me because I was like, if you're

not a fan of me and then someone compares you to me and you're like, oh, she's so annoying. No, I can definitely see the comparison. But I was like, right when I'm like, oh oh my god you cry all the time i cry all the time like i want to do like a side by side of like our like ugly crying face you're wearing a boy crazy like yeah i'm more of i'm like a commitment crazy person though i'm like a what i only see one person see and i was opposite i was like crazy like single sheena until like i find that one person okay then i'm all in like a hundred percent i'm like all in real quick real fast like okay like we're gonna do this because i'm not gonna agree to see one person if it's not

gonna go somewhere long term because what's the point stay single single. Have fun. I'm like, okay, he doesn't really like me. Doesn't matter. Still zoning. And honestly, it worked. Yeah, it did work. It's funny because both methods work. But I think I'm constantly asking myself because I'm more like, yeah, let me like play the field and see what's out there because I'm single. Yeah. But then I'm like, if I just manifest one man and think about him and daydream about him all the time like Ashley did like it happened yeah but I always say I'm the exception to the rule but yeah just I

remember watching your season and then Bachelor in Paradise and I was just like she's like the Sheena of The Bachelor like I really like this girl and like the lashes and I know my lashes were wild yeah I can't believe I thought that was okay the first season. Lashley. Lashley. That was the thing. I like that. I forgot about Lashley.

People are saying that Madison's eyelashes distract them now, and hers are natural. I've never. You can't shame that girl for having long lashes. Yeah, and she just has really light eyes, so her lashes do pop more. I was noticing that the other night, but they're very natural. Yeah, they are. People that have light eyes are so, can we curse on them? Yeah, say whatever. They're so fucking lucky yeah because i hate when i follow i told you there's a makeup artist

and they all just do makeup on like women with like oh i follow that and i go you're cheating like of course this look looks amazing on them yeah brown eyes are beautiful too of course i know but i i know we're always gonna go, us brown-eyed girls are always going to have it like, what if I look blue? What do I look like? But, like, remember when colored contacts were a thing? Oh, yeah. Did you do them?

Oh, yeah. I did them, like, three seasons ago because Kylie Jenner started wearing gray contacts. So I started wearing gray contacts. Yeah, we want to get that. Kim had the Met Gala. The Met Gala when she had the light brown. I was like, wow, what a difference. So we're going to that the Met Gala when she had the light brown I was like wow what a difference

so we're going to do the light brown but when I was you know early college late high school I was all about the green contacts oh me too

I had green ones too and you guys they were back then they were made so poorly so they were way bigger for my eye and so when I put them in

like you could still see the brown and I looked like a frog like one eye was going that way and one was going that way. But I loved doing green contacts. Wait, so you don't wear contacts as, like, prescription?

She does wear contact prescription. I do wear prescription contacts. Oh, okay, me too. Oh, I didn't. I just got them for the color. Oh, yeah. But I, back then, I didn't wear prescription contacts. Oh, see, I have always had prescription color ones.

So I think they make those ones better, even in high school. Yeah, because I've had contacts or glasses since I was like 12, 13. Oh, okay. So should we do this again, guys? Yeah. Bring it back for the third time? I brought it back like season five, my first interview look. I have a gray like periwinkle color dress and I have the matching contacts and people

were like tripping out, but I thought it looked cool. But do we do them? Do we, is this like a daily thing we're going to do? Or is this like if I have a carpet or like,, yeah, if you want it to sort of look. I think it's more a look. Well, if we can get it accepted as something like, oh, it's a different color eyeliner that we're using. A different shade of eyeshadow. Then maybe people can be like, oh, okay, so it's an accessory.

It's like a new thing to do. Yeah, it's for a different look. And not like you pretending as if you have green eyes. Right. This brings up a funny combo because I have a little brother and Chris and I I was I think I was like telling my parents that I wanted color contacts

and my brother was like I want color contacts and I was like you can't have color contacts you're a boy and I'm curious to know like would you guys would you guys think it's weird if you like went on a date or like your guy your husband or your boyfriend wanted to work? But that's so unfair to them. I know.

I mean, okay, so do you watch Vanderpump Rules at all? A little. Okay, so you know who Tom Sandoval is? Yes, yes, yes. He, I think, is the only guy who's okay to wear contacts. It's always usually for a costume, but if he showed up with white eyes on a Tuesday night night at tom tom i would not be surprised right white eyes the white ones are sick they're sick but that's not like a halloween look yeah yeah but even when it's not halloween so our friend kyle chan does a huge birthday party every year it's like bigger than halloween the theme this year

is anime oh my god so i'm just like everyone watch out for tom sandoval because we know he will be making a statement yeah i want to put red contacts in my husband's eyes so we can really prove that he's a vampire yes jared oh i could so see that crazy yeah other day we were like almost convinced sitting at the table we're like oh my god your teeth oh my god your hair your jaw yeah yeah The color of his skin. Definitely. I could totally see that. Yeah. And Jared doesn't like eating.

That's gold. Yeah, he doesn't like eating. So our theory now is that he eats just for the look of it like the Twilight vampires did. Is he a night owl too? Not really. I mean, like, you know, 12 o'clock bedtime. Wow.

That's like goals if I need to get up early. I cannot. No matter what. Midnight is goals? Like, I get up early. I cannot. No matter what. Midnight is goals? Like I cannot go to bed before 2. Really? Ever. It's just the way my body has been programmed since like college. It doesn't matter whether I wake up at 6 or 10. I still go to bed at the same time.

Wow. So like the other night it was like 3.15 and I like I could not sleep. and i was like i have to be up at 6 45 oh good lord and so i mean i only got three hours sleep that's the worst and doesn't it affect your mood like the other night i got i woke up at three in the morning couldn't fall back asleep and i was in such a bad mood the night really yeah it really affects me i have this weird thing i don't know if it's genetics or just luck, but I don't get hung over. And like, I can just kind of always rally. Like even when we went to London, I didn't sleep on that flight. And then I had a full next day and then a full night. And it was like, I don't know, maybe 38

hours. And I was like, wow, I still haven't slept. But I was like, I was fine around like 1am. I started crashing, obviously. But then the next day I was fine. I, like, 1 a.m., I started crashing, obviously. But then the next day, I was fine. I napped during the Stonehenge parts. I miss that history. Maybe you're a vampire. But, I mean, that's ultimate goals for me. I wish I could be a vampire. I've been saying that for years.

Like, if they were real, please bite me. If you're listening. Seriously. You could fit in, too. edward or edward okay yeah yeah i haven't met many team jacobs i don't think anyone was there were some weird girls those were the girls that like wanted their best friend to fall in love with them yeah that's exactly what it was yeah i am relatable every day yeah i love him um so i want to get into a little bit about you and jared just to take it back because you guys did you not televise your wedding no but i

saw it on people or something i'm like i've watched it but it wasn't on the show yeah so we had a youtube video that that's. That's what I saw. And then we did do a people spread, and people did their own video as well. So why didn't you want to do what everyone else does and have it on Bachelor in Paradise? Well, technically, they never asked. They never formally asked. What? I feel like that's one of, like, literally, I'm not just saying this because you're sitting here, like, the biggest, like, love story build buildups to come out of the show ever.

Well, thank you. So like 100%. Yeah. They also probably knew that we probably would never have been happy with a paradise wedding. Yeah. I would have turned it down because I just never. Good for you. I had like a total image of my wedding.

I wanted it to be a Disney ball. Yeah. I wanted it to be like Cinderella. And I know it's so cliche at this point, but that's like the aesthetic that I wanted it to be like Cinderella and I know it's so cliche at this point but that's like the aesthetic that I wanted I want beauty and the beast like during that like gold yeah gold dress oh my god totally yeah and that's what it was and that's something that the bachelor couldn't have given us yeah and I'm the best decision we ever made in our lives good like other than signing up yeah it was the greatest wedding I've ever been to in my entire life like I actually don't think

I would ever go to a better wedding thank you it looks so beautiful. I don't think I would ever go to a better wedding. Thank you. I love that. It was so, like, the music. I think my, I could go on and on, obviously, about, like, the details, which Ashley should do because it was her wedding. But I think for me. No, I like it from another perspective.

For me, as someone that's, like, I'm now going to be a bridesmaid for, like, the eighth time this weekend. And I've just been to so many. And I think people get lost in, like, not paying attention to detail with the music and letting the DJ play like black eyed peas and stuff and making and surrounding everything around like sort of the guest's experience

when Ashley and Jared really wanted it to be about their love story and so they asked specific people to speak during the rehearsal dinner and like there was like a video and it was more about there was like less dance time than at any other wedding but it was like a fucking blast because it was all about their story

and you just felt the love in the room as opposed to like alright I'm gonna have like a pig in a blanket now and go dance to like hey yeah you know what I'm saying like you everyone was and everyone was just so drunk and happy I mean I could go on forever it was like it was a story

it was a real real wedding we tried to story tell throughout the entire thing and make it like almost like a movie a production an experience so that people were doing something like different every hour so they never got stale i love that and we wanted to make we made it so personalized like every little detail so much of which people didn't even notice but it like fulfilled us that it was there oh that's awesome thanks and from what i saw like on the youtube video i mean that was shot so beautifully thank you shout out to larev yeah i feel like that's one thing too that a lot of people don't do when they do a tv wedding is like they don't have their own videographer i know and i'm like i i mean divorce but I was like I don't care if Vanderpump Rules filled into the

wedding I want my own version of it my own video not this edited intercut with people's bullshit someone got Kristen punched James in the face at my wedding Schwartz like didn't propose to Katie but gave her a ring on a string like all of these like things are being intercut with the wedding that was going to shit already about like you yeah to be about, like, you and, like, your story. But, like, my video, like, his name is Rene Zadori. And, I mean, it's very similar to how yours looks. Just, like, the shots. Like, I mean, it was gorgeous.

So, yeah. So, I had my own full video. Good for you. And it was so good. And it's, like, now, I mean, I have that memory forever. But it's not, like mean i have that memory forever but it's not like i know what i'm doing after this i have the moment of like if in case i never get married again or just elope or something like i have my dad walking me down the aisle i have my mom

there the first dance with my dad like no matter who everyone else like in there it's like i have those moments and that was worth the videographer alone because you didn't see any of that on the show you didn't see the speeches you didn't see the dances and it's like those are the moments where if i'm gonna go back and watch my wedding i'm not just gonna want to watch people dancing like you want to see the speeches and like different you want to see how people were intimate moments. But do you want to get married again? I'm not against it. I am just not like all like, oh my God, I can't wait to get married again and have my happily ever after. Like I'm not in a rush by any means.

And I think I would probably do things differently this time. Like we didn't do a prenup or anything. It was just like we love each other. Let's get married. And that did not work in my favor. And I still like, I've always tried to be the person that just like believes in love and believes everyone's a good person, even though they're not. But it's like, that just screws me over in every relationship. So although I now feel like I'm with obviously the best person i've ever been with

because i would never date worse than the last guy i dated like i'm the happiest i've ever been but it's like i thought that before and i felt that before so it's like it's not fair to my boyfriend now that he has to deal with these like insecurities and like past like trauma relationships but at the same time he does understand that and like if i was like look like i want a prenup i want this i want that like he would be on board and he could say the same thing he might want a prenup for all i know it's probably way more accepted if the person that you're dating has already been divorced then you'd be like and we're both divorced so it's like okay then you're like okay i get why you'd want that. Yeah. We actually did a whole podcast.

You know that movie Marriage Story on Netflix? I haven't seen it, but I've scrolled past it. I mean, well, it's like a horror movie for people that are married or have been married. Oh, sounds fun. Marriage Story? The lawyer that inspired Laura Dern's character, she came on our podcast. She's like a badass female divorce lawyer in California.

And we did a whole one on prenups. And I feel like 100% I'm getting a prenup after everything she said. I mean, I guess I don't. Before, I was just like, I feel like that's like,

just like, you know, like the what if, but it's like you're just thinking negatively going into the marriage. Like, well, what if it doesn't work out? But I'm like, now, it's not necessarily thinking negatively going into the marriage. Like, well, what if it doesn't work out? But I'm like, now it's not necessarily thinking negatively.

It's thinking realistically. Exactly. And you're just basically saying, look, if one day things don't work out for whatever reason, you keep yours, I keep mine. That's it. I'm not going to be like, we don't have a dog or cars or anything like that. But I'm not going to nitpick. It's just like, whatever I have before is mine. Whatever you have before is yours.

Exactly. And that's it. Amazing. Wait, but you're moving though, right? a nitpick it's just like whatever i have before is mine whatever you have before is yours exactly and that's it you know but um wait but you're moving though right are you guys moving to a smaller place no no so i i bought a house in palm springs as like an investment property last year and i'm like airbnb at all no because i'm under a strict HOA, so I actually can't. But that was the point of buying the house was to Airbnb it. No, that's so annoying. But when I saw this house, I knew the HOA rules and all of that. But when I walked in, it just felt right.

And I was like, no, this is the house I want. I don't care if I can't rent it out. And then after the first night that I slept in my house, I'm like, I don't want someone else sleeping in my bed. Like, I don't want someone else in my kitchen, in my bathroom. Like, I just don't want that. So that's just my little vacation house that I go to, like, every other week. But I'm not going to move to Palm Springs.

I'm also not going to sell that house, nor am I in a position financially to buy a second house. So for now my boyfriend's in san diego both of our leases are up in may and june and i'm like i spend a ridiculous amount of money to live where i live in marina del rey right on the water it's beautiful my balcony is about the size of this entire like office out there it's huge it's so dope but it's like the second half of my apartment on the water like on the boat oh on the marina on the marina yeah that's awesome so i wake up and look at

boats every day it's like being on vacation i love it right but the second half of my apartment it's just this room that i have the litter box in a bed no one sleeps in an extra bathroom no one really ever uses so i'm like if i'm gonna stay here for another year we're not buying a house right now we're not moving into a house together we're not moving in together so i'm gonna just um start to get all the furniture out paint it get a big neon it's all happening sign and i have like you have that tattoo yeah yeah and i just want to have like a little home office studio so that also i don't feel like i'm wasting rent money and that gives me a place to work when i'm at home because when i sit on the couch and start like oh let's podcast prep and

then i'm like watching a show and then i'm like shit it's been an hour and so i'm like i need a space to just focus and i don't want to move yet. I love where I live. I love being so close to the beach. So stay there for another year. And then we'll see where him and I are at in a year and go from there. But I mean, I'm 34, but I'm not in a rush to do any of that just yet. Right.

One thing I wanted to talk to you about, speaking of age, I'm getting ready for round three. Yeah. So you talked about your egg freezing on our podcast and you're going to do round three so you can get even more eggs because you said like how many of them were viable? So I have 16 mature eggs, but we don't know if any of them are viable until they're fertilized. Then once they're fertilized, however many viable embryos you have have to get genetically tested and all the chromosomes and all that checked. And then after that, it's like from 16, you could easily be down to one to four. Wow.

So you're trying to get as much as possible because do they have to fertilize them all together? Is that why you're doing it a third time? I think that's ideal. That way you don't have to pay again? But they said you could do because one of my friends,

I'm not going to reveal who yet, but she's on the show with me. She's going to be doing this as well. Is she going to be doing it on the show? No. Oh, okay. We're doing it on my YouTube.

Okay. So you'll only be able to see it there exclusive content coming in probably like a month and a half depending on when we do the retrieval and whatnot so i went with her today to get the initial blood work and like ultrasound and all of that done and then i'll go in a week for mine so you have to be on day two or three of your period to get the right hormone levels and all of that when you go under so no no that's just uh just an ultrasound and a blood test on

day two though day two or three okay because then they can tell like how many eggs you're releasing follicles and all that stuff so do they tell you how many ideally that they want to fertilize like do they say you give us 30 if we can get 30 or do they not say i mean as many as possible is the goal but we were making a joke today with my friend of like well you know it could be the person you're with it could be your gay best friend it could be you know like we're just saying they go i think the nurse said yeah we could do like multiple so if i'm like well i only want like multiple. So if I'm like, well, I only want like. Multiple dabs?

Yeah. And I don't know if she was like joking, but I was like, wait, did I hear that right? And I was like vlogging, so I wasn't fully listening. But I don't see why they couldn't. If I'm like, look, I only want to fertilize 10 out of my 20 eggs. Like, I think they would do what you want them to do because they're your eggs. But I would think ideally you fertilize all of them with the same sperm at the same time. Test them all.

See what's left. And because I have 16, my doctor said that's good. It's not great. Ideally, like 25 to 30 would be a good number. So there is a number. I'm so happy you shared this with the world because I think I'm going to be driving down this path like in the next two to three years. Yeah.

And I think all women should if you can and also but that's the thing. So I go to Southern California Reproductive Centers SCRC and Beverly Hills and they have payment plans. So they make it affordable. If this is something women want to do and say that they can't do because they can't afford it, they'll make it affordable if this is something women want to do and say that they

can't do it because they can't afford it they'll make it affordable like what's a four like a car payment a month like like 500 a month i mean i just paid up front for mine right and initially the medication that's what's really expensive that's like a minimum five thousand dollars so you need to have that no matter what, like $5,000 to $7,000 just for the medication. But then depending on how many days of injections you need, how many supplements and just like, there are different things that each body needs.

Like I had to get on like a double amount of birth control to bring my estrogen down the first time. But then the second time I was good to go. And then they had to put on like double amount of birth control to bring my estrogen down the first time. But then the second time I was good to go. And then they had to put me on this one supplement to get like this level up. But with my girlfriend, like she might just be ready to go and have like great like I know your AMH numbers. You said we're good. And mine for my age.

I don't know. I don't remember what it stands for. And I need to look this up again. But it's basically your fertility levels that they check from your blood work. I should do that. I could just do that with a doctor, right? Literally. Okay, I'm going to go do that.

So just get your levels checked, because how old are you? I'm turning 30 this month. Oh, see, you're at the perfect age to do it, too. That's the age they recommend it. Because after that, I mean, each year and each cycle, you lose more. Right. So it's like you start with, you know, 10 million eggs or whatever the number is like as an embryo. And then by the time each period, it gets less and less.

You can also go to my Modern Fertility link if you go to my Instagram. Because if you don't have health insurance, it's like $150 for modern fertility. If you go to the doctor and you have insurance, it should be able to be covered. It's covered. But yeah, either way. But yeah, it's just a simple blood test and an ultrasound. And so for my age, I should be between 1.4 and 4.2 AMH levels. That's just, that's normal low to high.

1.4 is the low. And I'm 0. That's just, that's normal low to high. 1.4 is the low. And I'm 0.28. Oh, wow. So that's like almost just zero. Which explains, I guess, why I've never had an accidental pregnancy. Do they say, do they tell you like what, like is it because of genetics?

Is it just like? Sometimes it can just, it is just because. Because I'm like, I've been on birth control. I'm not on it anymore, but I've been on it for 20 years. And that's one thing that I've always heard can affect fertility. But they say that's like a wives tale. But then they say that it doesn't either. And one of the nurses at the clinic, I was talking to her and hers were 0.16.

And she's the same age as me, never been on birth control a day in her life. There's no reason. There's no like genetic. It's just, that's just's just i mean a lot of women struggle with infertility and ever since i was little i always just had a feeling one day it would be hard for me to get pregnant like since i was like a little girl that's what i feel like too but because i have endometriosis and fibroids so not ever since i was little. Yeah. But I mean, I definitely think at like 29, 30, that's such a good age to at least just find out you're, you could be at the highest level for your age. And they might be like, honey, you can wait two, three years. Like don't rush.

But it's so simple to just get a blood test done. And just to know, because I waited two years. I went the first time to freeze my eggs when I was married, and things weren't great with us at the time, and I was glad because I would have frozen embryos, and that would have been bad. But then I waited two and a half years to do it, and I'm like, what if? Could you imagine if you just froze embryos at that point? Oh, my God, no.

With your ex-husband, and you didn't have any solo ex? Right? So I'm so glad I didn't do it, but then also I was, like, mad at myself for waiting two and a half years because at 31, my AMH levels might have been higher. They might not have been. I might have been at this forever because we didn't, I don't think we did the blood test back then. We just did the ultrasound.

We were filming for the show, and it was, like, a half-assed doctor's appointment. I was like, yeah, I'll follow up, and then i just never did because i was unhappily married and you know that i want to i want to freeze jared's sperm because they do that as well that's a thing no it's a thing guys sperm deteriorates too can you freeze a guy's sperm that you're not with i like him so morbid about it i want to do it because of jared this is like so sad if he dies if he dies i still want his kid yeah of course i'm so with you i don't think that's weird whatsoever wait go with jared today where can we freeze his sperm i think it would be so much less expensive literally at the same place they just go that's so annoying it's way less expensive it's not like they have to get on the hormones or anything like the same place. They just go, that's so annoying! It's way less expensive. It's not like

they have to get on the hormones or anything like that. Same place, they do that. And I was like, wait, I didn't know that was a thing. Guys can have kids in their 60s, but their sperm still does deteriorate quality. So, and prey quantity. But, yeah, so they said that they have, like, men

like our age going and freezing sperm so they can have young, healthy babies. Can you do this while they're sleeping? I'll just do it. Get a cup, put it in there, and run it over. I'm going to start a black market company to freeze a guy's eggs that you really like that doesn't want to be with you. I mean, freeze a guy's sperm. That'd be so legit.

And you're like, I got pregnant that one time. Yo, I'd make so much money off that, I feel like. Hey, they could take off. We got an idea here. Yeah. So what I know I'm sure everyone asks you this, but did you go to get your levels checked because you're wanting to try and have kids soon? Are you thinking about freezing embryos?

No, we're going to start trying in, like, September. I'm going to give myself one nice summer. And then, you know, the thing that I'm dreading the most is getting off birth control. So how long, have you been on it for a long time? Eight years. Okay, I've been on it for 20. Whoa! Wow.

Yeah. It was the only thing that would regulate my period when I was like 12, 13 years old. So I've been on it for so long, I had to get off it when I froze my eggs, and then my estrogen was too high, so then I'd get back on double and whatnot. How did you feel when you got off of it for the first time? I don't like not being on it i'm not gonna like not being on it i've now been off it for about four months but four months ago and this is like maybe a month and a half two months into dating brock i right when i got off it i was

just like so emotional fucking crazy like every little thing and he was like scared because he's like wait you were so chill last month like and i was like no i'm like i'm like it's just when i'm not on birth control and i'm like have i ever acted like this once and he's like no and i'm like it's only because i'm off but now four months later i think i've gotten more used to being off it. But whenever I hear girls say that birth control makes them crazy, I'm like, not being on birth control makes them crazy. I love being on birth control. Me too. I've been on since I was 22, and I had cystic acne.

It completely, okay, it didn't completely cure me. No, but it's good. It makes your skin. Holy crap. It was a life changer for me because I had gotten to the point where I couldn't leave the house without crying because I was that embarrassed by my face. And I'm really, and it was, that was the one medication, if you want to call it a medication, that just like made it 80% better.

And there's a couple other things that added on. I'm, when people are like, when are you going to start trying? The only reason that i'm like oh september is because i know i'm gonna have to start i'm supposed to get off at three months before them and i'm just honestly it seems vain very scared about what i'm gonna look like i got that i mean that's such a rational fear especially because it changed you make money from your face and like your public figure it's like yeah i mean the only thing is to lean into it to be like this is what i'm like without it

this is because we're trying to have a kid yeah but that's the thing i think that the mindset can be such a powerful thing and if you just change your mindset and think of it in a way where it's like you know what this is so real this is something I'm going through. So many women are going to be able to relate to that and just take the vanity part that we have in us away. It's hard, but even just with me doing my YouTube, I'm like, I'm not always going to only film on the left side when I have my eyelashes done and I look perfect. I'm like, my left arm hurts.

I'm filming on my right side. I don't care. I have no makeup on. I look ugly. But you know what? This is me sometimes. Sometimes I look ugly. But you know what? This is me sometimes. Sometimes I look ugly. So it is what it is.

One of the things I love about you, it's not you look perfect without makeup. But I do love the way that you are just so cool with being here in a recording studio without makeup. Yeah. So many girls that are in the public eye would never do that. And that my mom even sometimes she's like sheena like pull yourself together like i will go to the grocery store in unmatching sweats a bun like yesterday's individual eyelashes and nothing else on and i'm like i'm chilling if someone asks for a photo i still say yes i'm like i don't care i'm not kim kardashian i'm not gonna walk out of

the house looking like a freaking million bucks every day it's too much of a high standard to hold up and it's like why it's not doing any good for the world it's just making people feel like they need to yeah when you wear too much makeup it doesn't even feel good or look good anymore at a certain point like you need to let it breathe and yeah how amazing i love it when kim doesn't wear makeup and i wish that she has such good skin and she's so pretty that bone structure and the eyes like she has so pretty. She doesn't need it. And that bone structure. And the eyes. Like, she has huge eyes. Like, she doesn't need it. I know.

She doesn't. I know. That's so true. Yeah. You also love her dark circles. I do love her. She still looks so pretty with them. Yeah.

I know. I'm obsessed with her face. I know. But it's like, with or without makeup, she still always looks perfect. I know. Like, I actually like looking at her without makeup because it's that much more fascinating to me that somebody can look like that without it. Exactly. I think makeup's, like, sort of on its way out, too.

Like, don't you feel like when you look at, like, Instagram now, like, or makeup is in, but it's more of, like, a minimal look. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I just got my eyelash extensions taken off, and I had them for like three years. Oh, wow. And I was like, I feel like this isn't even the look anymore. I think it needs to go away. Yeah.

I didn't have them. No, I never got them. My sisters had them for a few years, and it was like I was either going to go and do that as a life commitment. Yeah, it is. Or never do it at all. Exactly. Because I'm like, I know once I start having that every day,

I'm going to want it every day i'm gonna want it every day and then i got on a kick with my individual lashes the way i do them and also because i wear contacts my eyes are so sensitive when i wash my face i'm not splashing water on it i'm going around with like a makeup wipe and then a cleanser like around my eyes i never rub my eyes so for me it's very easy to leave the individual lashes on for like up to a week so washing my face every day but they stay on and i got in such a habit of touching those up and then it's like but i could take them off whenever i wanted to and so that was nice but then even after a few months of that i'm like oh i'm so over like touching them up and now i just i don't care i was

getting lash lifts and like i got a lash lift a couple weeks ago and it's gone by now. It's gone at four weeks. And then it gets all wonky come week two. I know. I hate that. And it's like, never mind. They started to go like, oh, really? Yeah, all different directions and crinkled and stuff.

No, don't do it. It's just like all you got to do is clip a clamp there. Right. Just clamp it. Yeah. I was going to say something more about, look it, lash extensions are something that needs to fade out because women are going wacky with them. How many women do you see that are naturally beautiful that have these, they have brooms coming off their face?

And they're so distracted. They really are. Like, that's not enhancing your eye shape. It's like making us just look at the lash. I'm so happy we're talking about this. I think we're living in an eyelash revolution. I think that they are out and they were such a thing. But I think it is so pretty.

Remember? So I got them off like a couple weeks ago. Ashley was like, I'm into it. I felt so ugly for three weeks. And now you feel like? I hated looking in the mirror. I was like, I feel like a naked mole rat. But now I'm like, oh, I like that I like my face the way it is, like the way I was born.

That sounds so silly, but like it's true. No, I get that, though. I mean, I still like, you know, for like red carpets and stuff, I'm still going to do big lashes. A hundred percent. We just mean like every day. I saw a woman on a plane a couple of days ago and she was a really she's a really pretty lady. But she had no makeup on. And I was like, wow, look at her skin, look at her eye color, all that.

But then she had these brooms coming off of her face, and all I could do was look at them. Yeah. It's so true. And it looks so out of place. It also looks out of place if you get eyelash extensions that are so crazy and you don't have makeup on. That's what I mean. Then it's like, okay, this is me.

Yeah. And even when I had my individuals on sometimes but like no me i'm like i need at least like tinted moisturizer and a little blush because it's like lashes and then my face is so pale right and yeah it was just it was a lot but i want to get into some fan questions that i got so i don't know if oh well and and also wanted to say you looked beautiful on the women tell all this past week. Okay. But was there a comment you made about Claire's old eggs? Someone asked? Yeah, I did. I made a comment on that. Five years ago. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. I was like, wait, what? And I was 26, and I grew up with a mom who literally still reminds me every day that fertility goes down at 27.

And biologically, it is considered a geriatric pregnancy at 35. I got a lot of hate for it. And while I think it's a totally inappropriate thing for me to say and something so like insensitive and I would never say that here as a 30 almost two woman 30 year old woman but like to say that it's not scientifically

like on the accurate-ish side is another thing right what do you think about her being the next bachelorette? I'm obsessed with her being the bachelorette.

We were, my, one of my friends, uh, Jamie, she's, um, around,

she's a little younger than Claire, but she has a daughter and, you know, she's single, she's dating and whatnot and it's like,

we were talking about The Bachelor and we're just saying how it's all of these just like 22 year olds and it's like, first of all about The Bachelor, and we're just saying how it's all of these just like 22-year-olds. And it's like, first of all, at 22, you should not be wanting to get married for the rest of your life. No, definitely not.

Enjoy your 20s. Enjoy especially your early 20s. Like 20 to 25, enjoy that. Be single. I don't think you should think about getting married until after 25. No, 100%. But the thing is, I don't want to get it. I don't want to go down the road of ageism either, where it's like, because there are

a lot of people that get married at a young age. And different parts of the country. People are in different phases. I think for me as someone who has worked on the show and is a fan of the show, I think because we're living in a streaming world now where love is blind is out. There's all these other romantic reality shows going on that I feel like you really the show really has to like keep it standard up to keep the viewership and I think when people get home from work and they're exhausted they don't want to watch two hours of people

crying over a champagne bottle no I think you know what I'm saying it's okay if it's a part of the episode and I think by casting older people you're gonna get those girls like if I was on I'd be like I gotta freeze my eggs like come on like we gotta make this happen and to me that is gonna be incredible because the drama is gonna be derived from people having like a sense of urgency and wanting to settle down yeah rooted in realness

yeah so rooted in like much more realness jamie and i were talking about that and she's like when are they gonna have like the mid 30 year old divorcee women with a ton of baggage on this show it's all these 22 year old wanne women with a ton of baggage on this show it's all these 22 year old wannabe influencers or girls who are already influencers coming on the show and it's just like it's changed so much from where it started out and where it was even five years ago to now that i'm like wait i'm like obsessed with this idea like if they even just a few seasons like see how it works out go older have a black guy as the bachelor like why wasn't mike the bachelor we've been dying for i mean i think um i also feel

like claire's season it'll be a great opportunity for um for us to see older men and hopefully get an older bachelor yeah you know what i'm saying but because i know ari was an older bachelor compared to like the past couple ones that we've had but i feel like we're going back to the root of where the show was yeah people would have said that they were trying to do that with ari but i think they're gonna do that with claire 100 they had younger girls on ari season two yeah guys it's different right because guys usually date like seven and ten years younger yeah yeah i know which is a double standard but that's a topic for another day i also just want to readdress the whole eggs are old comment

because of course you're able to have kids 35 post 35 yeah i would say most women who have multiple kids probably on average throughout the country probably have one post 35 i mean i'm gonna be 35 in may so i don't have a choice yeah i'm not saying it's like not possible i'm just saying that's when you start running running more tests you know oh absolutely that's why i'm doing it this way because of the risks once you get to this age and yeah okay uh fifi millen wants to know if you watched bachelor in paradise australian version when jared went on i did not watch it he didn't kiss a girl so i Yeah. Okay. Fifi Millen wants to know if you watched Bachelor in Paradise Australian version when Jared went on. I did not watch it.

He didn't kiss a girl, so I don't even know that I have to. Oh my god, wait. Ashley, we need to watch it. I didn't know they had this. I want to watch it. I want to watch it too. Let's watch Jared's episode. I would. I don't think it's going to be that entertaining. And plus, that would be super weird. You can watch his episode. I guess he didn't watch

my Bachelor. He didn't watch Bachelor Winter Games. But but he didn't kiss oh yeah claire was on that with you yeah that's where we became friends yeah all right um claire's gonna be unreal as the bachelorette yeah she's gonna she is so no bullshit she will call men out on their oh absolutely and i am so ready for i just had to, I'm so ready for her. So are you still working on the show? No, no. I left like years ago. Yeah. Gotcha.

Three years ago? 2017? I was like literally counting it in my head and I'm so bad at that. 2017 officially. Okay. Oh, and one thing I was going to say

going back to like age and stuff. So when I like started like back when I was in like college or whenever The Bachelor started, like when Trista and Ryan and all of them were on it, it's like back then because I was so young too everyone seemed older yeah but like what was the average age like Brad and Emily and all of them when they were on it I believe Brad

was 33 when he was The Bachelor the second time so yeah when I started watching the seasons they were older lead was the lead guy was usually in his early 30s, and the Bachelorette was usually in her late 20s. Yeah. And now it just has gone younger and younger. Yeah. And with Instagram. I mean, there's so many different factors that factor into it. I still think I stand by it.

Peter's season is an incredible season. Yeah, drama-wise. It was an incredible season. Plot twist after plot twist. Yeah, it doesn't matter what the age is. I think just we've grown up with it, and everyone wants to see themselves reflected on screen and I'm turning 30

and I just love to see someone sort of in my position try and find love. Definitely. And then it's like you do know that they're taking it more seriously. Exactly. Definitely. Maybe, yeah. She signed up for the show when it wasn't even the Instagram age, which was, we know that she went on Truly For Love,

which is really awesome. And I also just feel like they lost control of the age, which was, we know that she went on Truly For Love, which is really awesome. And I also just feel like they lost control of the age, you know, like with the past couple seasons, just continuously the 23-year-olds. It's just unreal. I know. And then it was like once they got young and had Colton be the bachelor, then they got

young girls for him, and then young girls for him turned into the youngest bachelorette ever with Hannah who was 24. Yeah. Right. And then young girls for him turned into the youngest bachelorette ever with Hannah, who was 24. Yeah. Right. Right.

Yeah. Too young in my eyes. Um, wait, oh, ma white 32 wants to know how to girls waxes and manicures last when they're in the mansion for so long. This is one thing I've always been curious about too,

with like acrylic nails and nails. Yeah, no, I had acrylics and you know by week three they basically popped off really then i had like i was trying to paint over them bite them you know bite them off like the remnants off and just paint you know paint my little nubs yeah you can't get your nails on until what top no phone and no nails i could never do it your nails are amazing that's a new podcast no phone no nails no basically yeah unless you make it to like hometowns because you know obviously when

the lead is traveling to like the other cities you sort of have time maybe one day to like get your nails yeah because other than that you you don't yeah because you come back here to i wasn't part of it but you come back here to la and you're in the hotel waiting to be going on to that rose ceremony yeah and during those days where they're here in the hotel with like a one-on-one producer is when they can like get beauty things done and if you notice and you can watch out for it you know like next year when it's on again yeah the the girls always look like their their color is a little bit better they may be like more tan their nails are definitely done like lashes brows all that stuff yeah it is a little bit better. They may be like more tanned. Their nails are definitely done, like lashes, brows, all that stuff.

Yeah. It's a little bit fresher when you check them out on that rose ceremony. Interesting. I love noticing that kind of stuff. When you guys go on the show, how many dresses on average do the girls bring? Do you have to bring dresses for up until this is what I'm going to get engaged in? Or do they start styling you later on? So, the only thing that is styled, and Naz, correct me if I'm wrong, would be the final proposal outfit, right?

That is correct as of, I mean, it's been three years. Right. So, I don't know if anything's changed, but it's my experience. I always wonder that. I'm like, are the guys bringing 10 15 suits like are they all bringing 20 dresses yeah i'll never forget um olivia on ben's season she had like the most legit wardrobe that she brought with her it was like she had freaking gowns it looked like giovanni in her suit like she was prepped and yeah it's crazy and you also have to prepare for any type

of weather which is insane so what they say is two and a half suitcases two big ones which can be any weight and that's what you get away with like i had two 80 pound suitcases because they'll pay for that but then they get really moody if you get like say you have three 50 pound suitcases they don't like that they'd rather pay the overweight charge. Interesting. Yeah, so I had, like, two 80-pound suitcases and then a carry-on with just shoes. Uh-huh. So, yeah, you're supposed to pack for eight weeks and all seasons and temperatures.

Wow. In two suitcases. And I did. I don't know how I did it. Well, I did it with 80 pounds. Yeah. And you did Winter Games, too, which is so much winter. That was a lot of winter gear, yeah.

How long were you there for, for Winter Games? That was just, like, 12 days. I think I was there, like, in Vermont for 13 days, but then shooting for 10. Gotcha. Which, out of all of the shows, not based on, like, where your life is now, like with Jared, but which was the most fun to film? The Bachelor was the most fun to film for sure

where was your favorite place you guys went? I we didn't we had like the Americana season Crystal's like yeah so we

I just went to Santa Fe, New Mexico and Deadwood, South Dakota I always forget who was on whose season because then it's like you see Bachelor in Paradise and then I'm like

wait which one were you on? yeah oh yeah so Santa Fe was cool. I liked Santa Fe. Yeah. They're all kind of just fun because they're just, it's just wherever you go, it's a sorority

house. Yeah. Because you're inside 95% of the time. Wow. And you're just like eating with the girls. But when, Santa Fe was the only place I got to like actually go out and explore because if you do get through that rose ceremony, there's usually like an extra day either before you start shooting that city or after yeah where you get to just go out with a producer and like little groups and hang wow interesting

well thank you ladies for being here tell everyone where they can follow you and listen to your podcast well we are together on the I don't Get It podcast. We talk about a lot of stuff that Sheena talks about here. Millennial girl lifestyle. Single shit, married shit, pooping. We just did one about childbirth. Childbirth. Women's health.

But yeah, I'm on Instagram at Naz Perez. N-A-Z-P-E-R-E-Z. And Ashley. And I am there on Instagram at Ashley underscore Ikenetti. Ikenetti. Yeah, and join us. are easy and ashley and i am there on instagram at ashley underscore i can eddie i can eddie yeah and join us we just talk about shit we don't get it's called the i don't get it yeah give me give me one before we leave what's one you don't get okay um i actually have a bunch yeah we have

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Wait, okay. That's the kind of stuff that we talk about. But I was just going to say, I have a great story and you're going to have to wait and listen. Mine is, which I'm going to talk about tomorrow. We're recording it tomorrow. Tomorrow we're recording. Yeah.

So I'm also not going to go into this, but I, like I shared, I'm turning 30 this month. I'm throwing a big party. It's my 30th. And it's get, it's almost been like a wedding thing where it's like, I don't want to invite this person, but they're friends with all my friends. And if they don't come, is it going to be a thing? Yeah. So it's like, at what point are we just like, we're not close.

Like I'm not inviting you. Yeah. But it's like, I, you know, I'm big on energy. Like if I don't want you there and we're not friends, why should I have to invite you? Yeah. Anyways, I get it. Well, more of that to come on. I don't get it with Ashley, Lauren and Naz. Thanks for listening. Bye. Thank you. Yeah. Anyways, I get it. Well, more of that to come on. I don't get it with Ashley,

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