Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - I’m Now in Kevin Connolly’s Entourage

Episode Date: May 28, 2020

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From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, guys? Shenanigans is back. We had a short little break last week, but thankfully, we have found a new home in West Hollywood, actually not that far from Sur, at Action Park Media. And my special guest is the amazing owner of this beautiful studio, Mr. Kevin Connolly. How are you? I'm well. Thanks for having me on.

Yeah. Thanks for doing this. Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure. We go way back. We've known each other for a long time. Did we have a year on that? So long.

I think it was 07. Oh, geez. Yeah. Am I aging us? We're aging us. We are. We are. Wow, yeah, that sounds about right. I think the last time I saw you, though, we were at Rockin' Riley's doing karaoke. There was karaoke.

Singing Grease. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably, yeah, that makes sense. That's my go-to when I've had a couple drinks. That doesn't say. You can't go wrong with Grease. Like, nobody's gonna be offended by it. Keeps everybody involved. Right. It's a crowd favorite. It's a crowd pleaser. My pet peeve is when I'm having a great night

at a karaoke bar and someone comes on and does a Lana Del Rey song. Or something that just is not going to help the vibe of the place. It's just like you've got to please the crowd. Keep it going. I agree. So do you just go to a karaoke night and you're like,

what girl wants to sing Grease with me? I always have that one in my back pocket. But, you know, I have a few go-tos. Yeah. A few rap. I'm a rap guy, so I like to rap. But, yeah, Grease, you can never go wrong. Because I'm the same way.

If somebody gets on and starts singing a song that, A, nobody in the bar has heard and b it's like come on like we were grooving a second ago yeah oh and now it's now it's uh now everybody's falling asleep you gotta keep the vibe going to karaoke i i agree big fan of the karaoke hog somebody that's like constantly singing the songs i've been guilty of it i've been guilty of it i don't remember you singing that night though um. So here's the thing. Because I'm on a reality show where they have highlighted this, I'm saying in quotations, career of music of mine

that I want to be this pop star. And I'm like, no, no, no. It's a fun hobby. I like to do it on the side. I by no means have the best singing voice. I do not consider myself a singer. I think of myself as more of a performer. I can get on a bar

at any moment, anywhere and dance and entertain. But you're having fun. Yeah. And you're allowed to have fun. Exactly. Don't let anybody tell you you can't have fun. No, I'm like, I'm not taking this seriously, so I don't know why all of the people who watch Vanderpump Rules are, and they're just like I just put out... Are they hating on you for like thinking you take yourself too seriously?

Yeah so I just did my first music video last summer but the episode just aired a couple weeks ago so I waited like eight months to put the video out so it coincided with the episode airing and I was just having fun with it. I was at the most single point in my life. It's a song called One More Time. It's literally about having sex with someone one last time. Like the breakup sex. And then moving on. That's it.

The breakup sex. Last round. So like obviously the video is going to be sexy. But then we got a really dope studio downtown LA. I had dancers. We had a little choreography. Some splits. Like it was a hot video.

Right. Everything since I started a little choreography, some splits. Like, it was a hot video. Everything since I started a YouTube a few months ago, I would say, no joke, 98% positive, which is shocking. That's a lot. Instagram, Twitter, like anything else is so negative. And YouTube has just been. Twitter is a cesspool. Oh, my God. I mean, Instagram is a cesspool, but Twitter is like next level. Yeah, it's so bad but when i started my youtube i was overwhelmed with the amount of positivity i was getting in

the comments and i'm like wow okay this is gonna be like my new thing because also the way i'm sure you don't watch vanderpump rules right you know what's funny i actually because i kind of grew into a thing but i first tuned in because we were friends. Oh, I think. So I actually tuned in to see you. Okay, so in the more recent seasons, I'm this one-dimensional, desperate, boy-crazy, cringey person. Question, and I know this is kind of obvious, but it's heavily written, right? It's not scripted.

Not scripted, but I mean like, hey, this is what you're going to do. This is your kind of character. No, but it ends up looking that way when you see the final product. They create it so it sort of happens that way. Literally. I mean, it's like the right interview

bite with the right music at the right time. It's amazing what they can do with editing, right? It's crazy. I swear, I stand by this. Our editors deserve an Emmy. I don't know if that's not a category, but they are incredible. Yeah, I mean, also, too, to file through hours and hours and hours of footage

and go, boom, boom, boom, these are the clips that we're going to use. Yeah, that's how, by the way, it's very tedious. Yeah. And to really make it work the way they've made it work over there, somebody's doing something right. Totally.

But then sometimes I'm like, who thought that was a good idea? There was like 20 other things. Stupid question, and I can ask this because I get this a lot with Entourage. Do you get along with everybody? So currently I do,

which is odd because it's very rare that we all get along. And I mean, there's still quite a few people who are on the outs with each other. But for myself, I'm in a good place with everyone. The new people, the OGs, my bosses. So I feel like I'm in a really good position.

However, it's somehow I still look like the most unlikable, desperate person. But you're fine because it is kind of a character, right? I mean... I've learned to embrace it. Right. I have about 500 beanies on their way, and it's taken forever because everything with COVID. But I'm like, well, now it's summer,

and I'm selling beanies. Not the best time. But I was like, you know what? I'm going to embrace this boy-crazy character that is now me and I got beanies made that say boy crazy and I'm like I'm just going to embrace it and why not market on it also too I think that with I think the audience they're okay like they it's almost I don't want to make a bad comparison and say it's like wrestling but it's they're watching the show

and then somewhere in the back of their heads they know that it's a little bit predetermined or what have you, right? And that's the thing. I don't think they're going to judge you overall in the big picture based on what your character is on the show. I would hope not. No, I've gotten so much love this year because everyone's just like, come on. We watch her YouTube.

We listen to her podcast. We know there's so much more to Sheena than what you're showing. But I'm glad that the audience is finally catching on. But it's like, you know, this is what I signed up for. I signed up to do a show where I have zero control over how I look. Would you have ever in a million years thought that that show would become what it became? Because it took a second to get cracking, right? Not really.

I mean, after the first season, it was flying. We were on The View, the first season of our show. That's a scary place to be. That's a scary place to be. I remember that was the first, well, when I was 18,

there was, just a quick story, a lawsuit with me and Hooters. Back in the day, they had- That's another podcast. Yes, but Gloria Allred was my attorney, and I was like the face of this class action lawsuit. That's another podcast. Yes. But Gloria Allred was my attorney. Oh, wow. And I was like the face of this class action lawsuit. Against Hooters.

Yes, against Hooters. Surprised there haven't been a few more of those. I know, right? When you think about it. There was like 120 of us involved in this lawsuit. It was crazy. Gloria Allred all over that. Oh, yeah.

All over it. But I ended up becoming the face of this. So I went out to New York. I did like the CBS early show, Donnie Deutch, like all of these things. Maury Povich, like who would have thought I'd ever be on that? Donnie Deutch too. Donnie Deutch is cool. And then what's so cool is I ended up on Watch What Happens Live with Donnie Deutch a few years ago.

Oh yeah? And I was like, dude, and he remembered it. That's a wild show. Yeah. You know, we were doing something. I want to say we were like like, promoting the Entourage movie, and we did, we were just doing so much press. I got more phone calls and more, we did a Watch What Happens Live.

I didn't realize how huge that show was. Oh, yeah. My phone was blowing up like never before. Uh-huh. For a, whatever, 10-minute interview. It's huge. I'm watching it on his live. Yeah, Andy Cohen's a beast.

Yeah, totally. So I had done some big press when I was like 18 and in college, but it's different when you're representing yourself in the television show you're on and being on The View. And I remember like throwing up

right before that. They're tough. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we did it at Guy. It's tough. It's really tough for Guy. Yeah. It'd be tough for Guy's

to get on there as well. I can imagine. But that's a big deal. Yeah, all of a sudden you're on that stage. That's a big sound stage with lots of people. Huge live audience, like all of that. And I mean now. And it's live. Live. Live. Literally. But like now it's like second nature. Like I love doing interviews, live TV. I want to host a show that's like live TV one day. I love that. But so it's like at the time, we never thought but always hoped that it would become what it is now. Right.

It's just, it's insane because, I mean, we're going on nine years this year. And also, too, you guys were kind of on the forefront. I mean, yeah, like, you know, the housewives, but you guys are part of that first early wave. And just the popularity. And also, too, I think happening at the same time is like the social media boom. part of that first early wave. Yeah. And just the popularity. Also, too, I think happening at the same time is like the social media boom. It's lightning in a bottle. I remember when I hit 10K on Instagram.

That was like a big deal. So excited. What do you have? How many followers? I've been stagnant at 1.1 million for a couple years now. When you hit that one number and it just locks. It just does not go up. There's nothing you're going to do, right? Everyone else is going up

and I'm just stuck, but that's okay. And that's important, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, for brand deals. And I mean, when you have a bunch of, you know, pretty girls with similar interests

on the same show, you're not going to have three of us represent your brand. You're going to pick one. Correct. And I'm not the one they pick anymore, so it's been quite humbling.'ll say that being the person like my whole life who was kind of always like the leader the favorite teacher's pet were you a teacher's pet in school is that where are

you from again uh just outside of la um azusa and then i went to high school in La Puente. Nice. Okay. Yeah. Bishop Amant. Shout out. Nice. Good times. So let's talk about you. Yeah. How has quarantine been? I mean, you know, it's been it's been like for everybody. I think it's been it's been a strange thing. And, you know, I don't want to get into like a big dark discussion. But like one of the things right from the jump that always was on my radar was like mental health issues for people. And, you know, I'm fortunate enough where I have a girlfriend. I've been quarantined with her. So I haven't been, you know, that kind of lonely. But I know some people that I worry about because they're just – I think about them.

Like what are they doing? And a friend of mine was like, am I allowed to go out? I'm like, yeah, you can walk outside. You should take a walk around the block. Get some air. Just stay away from people, you know? So they're the people that you worry about. It's been wild. And you know, one of the things I always tell people, and this is such an epic thing. You're going to tell your grandkids, I was there. I was there. You know what I mean? This is 9-11. Hopefully this is a once in a lifetime thing.

That's what I'm saying. It's got to be... It wouldn't be good. The country's in a place that it's never been before. One day it'll be over and we'll get past it, but you will say fuck man, 2020. It's funny. It's got a good ring to it too it's gonna be like 2020 is like something in the stars like it's just a two round of a number

yeah did you see there were some articles that came out i think one of the kardashians posted about it but about like some psychics who had predicted that there would be like a plague that would come around 2020 and like go across the world. There were things that I think. Well, it's been out there a little bit, right? Yeah. I mean, I think you could almost correlate that with anything, right?

Yeah. But I mean, so specifically around 2020 and this came out in like the late 80s, early 90s. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. But here's my point. It's a good round number.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Okay. Good point. If somebody would have said, hey, in 2011, you would go, but 2020 is like, you know, it's the start of a new decade. Yeah. So, I don't know.

I would say it's on par with 9-11. Different, obviously, because... Right. And you were young, obviously, when 9-11 happened. I was in high school. Senior year. But you remember, so that was a big deal. But when 9-11 happened, we were immediately started healing together.

This is like nobody knows what to do. Like even as we sit here today, I don't know what I'm, I mean, look, I wear a mask. When I go outside, I put a mask on. Same. And, you know, what else am I supposed to do? There's nowhere else to go. I mean, I'm not going anywhere because there's nowhere to go. So I think people are now caught in this thing of nobody really knows what to do.

No. What do you do? Are you allowed out? Are the beaches open? Are they not? Can you hike? Is Runyon Canyon open? I know that certain parks are starting to open up.

I don't know if Runyon specifically because I'm technically, I'm like out in Riverside County right now. We're quarantined in Palm Springs. So we just went golfing. That's a great quarantine place. Oh my God. It's perfect. I live on a golfing. That's a great quarantine place. Oh, my God. It's perfect. I live on a golf course. It's nice and hot out there.

Yeah. I know. I come to LA today, and I was like, ooh, it's a little chilly. Chilly in the air. It's a nippy 85 degrees outside. Yeah. But it's been nice. Golf course.

I went golfing and whatnot. How's your golf game? I actually just drive the golf cart and watch my boyfriend golf. You drink beer, and you drive the golf cart. You Instagram and you watch him golf. You root him on. That vlog will be out this week. Me in the golf cart, him on the course.

You should pick it up though. I feel like you'd be good at what you do. I'm great at miniature golf. This is a very difficult one. By a drive standpoint, I feel like you could probably pick it up. Yeah. I'll say, though, I've been to the beach twice,

once in San Diego, and then last week. During quarantine? During quarantine, yeah. San Diego, like, two and a half weeks ago, and then I was in Venice, because I live in Marina del Rey, and I had to come back for a day, and they still, the bioluminescence was still going on. I went and saw it.

It's pretty awesome, right? So cool. Yeah. But you would have thought it was a Saturday night in Venice. I know. That was a little disturbing. There was hundreds of people on the beach. And also using flash photography.

Yeah. And my girlfriend's like, you can't go around and lecture every person. I know. Because I'm like, yo, your flash is ruining the bioluminescent. Turn your flash off. And it's not going to show up

better in your picture with the flash. It's not going to show up in your picture with the flash. No. And you're ruining it for everybody else. But so many people

are doing it. But that was the first time because when was that? A couple, was it two weeks ago? Yeah. Me and my girl went out to the beach one night

and the first thing we both looked at each other like, holy shit, it's fucking crowded. Yeah, I mean, that's how it is when-

People just walking around. Yeah, when I go out in Venice on a Saturday night, that's exactly how it is. I like looked at each other like, holy shit, it's fucking crowded. Yeah, I mean, that's how it is when- People just walking around. Yeah, when I go out in Venice on a Saturday night, that's exactly how it is. I like looked, I'm like, is the Whaler open right now? Because there's a lot of people out here. And you're like, wait a second, I thought we're quarantined. We're like out there with our masks and like people are walking around like it's 4th of July. Children, strollers. Yeah, the whole nine yards.

It's bizarre. And that's why people don't know what's, what, there's so much. Are we allowed out or not? people don't know what's, what, there's so much, are we allowed out or not? I don't know. Simple question. It's confusing because like, and then in different counties and then there's different rules. And I mean, I drove to LA today because my Botox doctor opened back up and I was like, if I hear another girl say that, they're so excited. Forget the restaurants, forget everything.

As long as you're allowed to go get, you know. I mean, the restaurants, that is something that I mean, definitely for what I do for a living. Of course. I miss it. And I also just miss going out and being social. It's nice to go and sit down and order your food. Yeah. Or a glass of wine.

It really is. Guy brings the food over. I don't think anyone's going to complain about bad service or their food taking so long once we're able to go. Just want to be that sense of normalcy. So I own a sports bar. Have you ever been to Gold? Gold, yeah. I wanted to ask you about that, too.

Well, we're in a tough spot because when does that happen? Right. Right? I mean, you know, when are they going to start opening? August? You know, it's crazy. That's what I'm hearing. At first I heard mid-July.

Now they're saying end of August. So for your place, sir, right? They're talking about... They're saying end of August. They can't open until August. And even in August, they're going to have to open at 25%. Probably. Which they won't do because it's not financially beneficial.

A place like that has got too big an overhead to only operate at 25% is my guess. I don't know. I mean, if they're just operating every day as if it's like a Monday, I think Why is Monday a big... No, like Monday's like a slow day where they usually have the lounge closed. They only have like one room open. You just gotta only have a certain amount of people in the place. Yeah, and I mean,

I'm assuming we're picked up for a ninth season and, you know, a big part of our show is filmed in the restaurant so it's like when are we going to go back to filming if the restaurant's not open but it's like if it is safer to be around people if everyone you know gets tested

then maybe we can start filming sooner, maybe the crews are smaller we only film two person scenes I have no idea what the future is. The future of Hollywood in general. You know, I mean, if you think about, you know, even like when I think about like entourage, you know, we would have so many extras.

We would pack into a club. We would pack into a club and they'd be like, they would bust people. You can't do that. Like, how are you going to make places look crowded? I mean, it's, it's going to be strange. It's going to be a version of what you're talking about. Less people. They're going to have to get creative, which it sounds like they're good at.

So are you guys doing to-go food or drinks at goal right now? See, here's the thing. I guess theoretically we could do to-go food, but truthfully, we're a bar. We have food. We actually have good bar food. But if you can't serve drinks and also, too, people want to come in and sit. Is it true that at Pink Taco you can get

a to-go? Yeah, you can get to-go cocktails. You can get a pitcher of margaritas and stuff. It's just hilarious. Like, oh, by the way, now I'm going to jump in the car with a margarita. I know, right? Now you're handing drivers. I don't know. Which I would also think is more expensive than just making them yourself at home. Right.

But what I love is like the golf. But people want that feeling. Yeah. Of I want to go get a drink. Let's go get a drink. And that's what, like at the golf course where I live, it has like a country club attached to it. Now they're open, the golf course. The golf course is now open.

Because they weren't for a second. No, no. I would hop the fence sometimes and we would just go and like hit some balls just for fun. So you do hit balls. You're just not ready to commit to a game yet. Right. Do you have clubs? I have clubs.

You do. Okay. So you're holding back. You have a set of clubs. I need to get some lessons. Well, listen, if you have a house on a golf course, what better? Oh, also, I knew there's... How bummed were you when they called off Coachella

were you devastated like you and your friends were devastated idea because literally I closed escrow on my house April 30th you're like rager at my house like that was your thing Coachella right I was out there for stage coach I went and signed all of the papers

last year and I was like next April it's on rager my house I had a list I had friends fighting over who was gonna stay in this room right right so I was like I mean it alleviated that anxiety right but the weekend of Coachella I was like you know what I did not buy a house in the desert to not Coachella so I mean that's the whole look it's always great to have a place in Palm Springs But it's a real added bonus Absolutely Because you know now Coachella is two weeks

You've got stagecoach It's like a month of stuff out there And then it's great around the holidays It's beautiful weather What we decided to do is We got all dressed up in our Coachella outfits We went to the polo field We did a photo shoot

You said you know what They can't shut us down I did a whole vlog we set up neon carnival we had a huge like blow up projector screen in my backyard with the ferris wheel on it it looked like you were actually there

and so I mean it wasn't the same right obviously but it's fun yeah I still like gotta do my glitter and my all that fun stuff sparkles and all the crazy outfits. Yeah, so. You know, that was the, that, it's so weird, like, what in L.A. is important.

Yeah. But I, strangely, I don't give a shit about, I go to Coachella and don't go. Yeah. I just kind of hang out at my buddy's houses, you know, or whatever. But I was like, wow, shit just got real. Yeah. And they're saying it's pushed till October. Spoiler alert.

It's not happening. Right. I mean, I think when they said that, I think they thought they were being optimistic, but it doesn't look like that's going to fly now. Or maybe one day we wake up and there's a vaccine. I know they're saying a year, but you got the smartest people on the planet Earth working together, which is not something that happens,

to come up with, if it's, quote unquote, humanly possible, we will have it as soon as humanly possible. And I feel like they're making steps

where, you know, if it was a month or two months ago, if you even had symptoms, but you were young and healthy, they weren't testing people. Right. Two of my best friends

are convinced they had it. They went to the doctor and they're like, you young you're healthy you'll recover you're fine like we don't have enough tests right we can't test you it doesn't matter now you can get the antibody or the viral test wherever you are which is a step in the right direction so hopefully that can help too just people knowing if they have the antibodies knowing you know it's like the whole thing that worries me is when, and everyone hates when I say this word, asymptomatic has become like my word of spring. Asymptomatic.

But like, how do you know? Like there are some people who don't show any symptoms. Yeah. I mean, listen, I have a friend that had no symptoms and he, well, I was too. I was very sick in January and I'm like, I was so sick. Maybe that was it. I went and got tested. I had influenza A, but I had a buddy who was like, you know, I was too. I was very sick in January. And I'm like, I was so sick. Maybe that was it. I went and got tested. I had influenza A.

But I had a buddy who was like, you know, I was feeling kind of shitty in February. He went and got tested and was positive. But by the time he got the results back, it was already gone. It's done. Yeah. I mean, he's got it made. Now he's like in the clear, I guess, you know. So crazy.

You know what else too is a funny thing? It's so weird when you think about it so much craziness around corona that during this crisis when everybody's worried about coachella and all this kind of shit the government admits that there's ufos and nobody said a word wait what have you noticed that no yeah they basically said they released a couple videos and said yeah we don't know what these are. They're UFOs. They're unidentified flying objects. There it is. You're looking at it. And I think before that, that was all anybody would be talking about. And with the world is so upside down, it was like, oh, yeah, I kind of knew

there was aliens anyway, you know, whatever it is. But yeah, they slipped that one in there. You know, it's a great time to slip some bed and go out there because people are so worried about a million other things. Seriously. Okay. Enough Corona talk. I want to go back to when we met. So it might've even been 2006. So I remember when I was in college, I went to a private Christian university. So we didn't have fraternities or sororities, but there was this apartment complex that like all the hot guys lived in and would always go over there for parties and I saw them watching this show it was like all about LA and actors and I was like wait that's gonna be me when I graduate and I was like what is this show and he's like it's Entourage I'm like wait I've never

heard of this how many seasons are there he's like oh there's two I think it was like around the third one that sounds about right yeah time And so I binged all of it. And then I moved to LA. I get with the modeling agency. I was with Warning Models back in the day. And they were booking models to be extras on film and television sets. And Entourage was one of the first shows I got to work on. And I mean, I became-

Do you remember what episode? Like, where were we? Were we at... There were several. I think I'm thinking of the one, but tell me which one. Okay, so I was at the Queen Mary for the birthday party. That was brutal. With the Victoria's Secret models.

The super long, long, long night. Yeah. Like on the boat. Ugh, yes. We did... The Angels. Yeah. Yeah, Alexandra, right? Yep. Uh-huh, Alexandra, Brosia. We did. The Angels. Yeah. Yeah.

Alexandra, right? Yep. Uh-huh. Alexandra Abrocia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was a bunch of them. I remember filming at Earth Cafe.

Earth Cafe. We were there a bunch of times. That was a go-to. Yeah. There was like, I think Oliver Peoples on Sunset. The main one though that I was like a regular at was the office

that was like in Culver City. That's right. Yeah. The agency office in Culver City. Yeah. So I was like a regular at was the office that was like in Culver City. That's right. Yeah. The agency office in Culver City. Yeah. So I was like front desk at Arnie Gold's office. Right, right.

Oh, yeah, there you go. I mean, I probably did at least like 10 different episodes. Really? I was around like all of the time, and I loved it because one of my friends was like the, I don't even know what his job title was, but he was the one who like wrangled all of us together. Right. And I got like special treatment because I was one of the models.

Right, right, right. And so like I would get to like hang out with you guys on like lunch breaks. And then I became friends with most all of you. And it was just like to first move to L.A. to get to be on a show that I was a fan of. Right. It was such a great experience. And I love that I've been able to keep in touch with you. Like Jerry and I still follow each other on Twitter.

Yeah. I mean, we've just crossed paths like, like every couple of years. Yeah. Just through some, we like cross paths out of nowhere. And it's like,

Hey, what's going on? And even before Entourage, I loved a show called Unhappily Ever After. Have you really ever seen an episode of Unhappily Ever After? I swear I watched every episode. That's hilarious. That bunny. The talking rabbit. Yeah. The talking rabbit.

Bobcat Goldwaite, the talking rabbit. I was obsessed with Nikki Cox. I just thought she was so hot. She was. We lived together. Really? We dated for like four years. That's right. I do remember you saying that. She was like my first love, like my first heartbreak. I was like, you know that first time you get your heart broken, you're like, I'm going to die.

Yeah. Like, I'm never going to recover. I'm going to lay here, and I'm going to bleed to death. That was that breakup, you know? But I really did. I watched all of that show when it was on. I loved it. You know, in hindsight, too, it's pretty racy.

I have them on, like, DVDs. They're, like, bootleg copies because it's not on Netflix. It's a tough show to find. But you watch some of it and it was kind of for kids, but it's sort of adult themed when I look back at episodes. I feel like I was probably too young to watch it, but I did. Yeah. Well, I was acting in it and was too young to understand what I was saying.

And then like years later, I'm like, Jesus. That's one of those things. There have been so many things that like, I'll go back and watch with like all those like sexual innuendos. I was like, Oh my God, I didn't get that. I had no idea.

Well, it's funny too. When you talk about karaoke and specifically Greece, Summer Lovin', right? Uh huh. When I first started karaokeing Summer Lovin' and you're looking at the words, it's a dirty song.

That's so true. I'm trying to think. There's a few humdingers, like, reference to, like... I mean, definitely, like, reference to sex. Like, something about down in the sand. Yeah, like, moist pain. There's a few humdingers in there. Yeah, when you look up the lyrics to songs, like.

When you're like looking at it for the first time and you're reading it, you're watching it, you're like, holy shit, I can't believe all these years. I had no idea. It's like a PG movie. Totally. But they're really talking about like high school sex. I don't know. Right? The whole thing is kind of, it's kind of crazy.

But it's just changed so much. You wouldn't get away with that now. Yeah. So do you keep in touch with any of the guys from Entourage? Oh, yeah. All of them. You know, it's funny. Kevin Dillon and Doug Ellen, who was the creator and the showrunner, they're doing

a podcast, which is like a deep dive into Entourage. So they were here. They're coming in tomorrow. Oh, nice. Yeah. So everybody, but you know how it goes. Like, life gets in the way. Yeah.

You know? Jerry just had a baby. You know, like it's funny where, because he's in New York. So he's going to call in tomorrow and it's like, it's just funny to be talking to Jerry about like scheduling around like feeding time. Yeah. It's surreal. That's crazy. Kevin Dillon lives in Malibu.

Adrian lives in Brooklyn. It's just life gets in the way. Yeah. We were all in the same room. It's a love fest. Right. But it's just, you know, life catches up and you just are off and doing, you know, you blink your eyes and you're like, shit, I haven't seen so-and-so in two years or whatever it

is. Yeah. When was the movie? What year did that? 2015. Okay. So, oh, wow. That's already five years ago.

Yep. I still, I watched it recently again. Okay. I pulled up the Summer Loving lyrics. She swam by me. She got a cramp. He ran by me, got my suit damp. I mean, that's a dirty thing to say, right?

It's so weird. Yeah, but it's like when you, like as a kid, you wouldn't think, like, oh, they went swimming. I guess that's, I mean, I guess that's maybe, by the way, maybe I'm just, my mind is in the gutter. That's a very clever way to write a dirty line.

It feels dirty to me. No, no, no, we meant the ocean water got her wet. Right, I mean, I guess that's how they would justify it. But yeah, I don't know, whatever. That's a good enough example. That's a good enough example, but yeah, so. Oh my God, totally. Yeah, so no, we're in touch as much as you can be in touch.

And you'll feel this too eventually. You'll have a unique bond for life. We experienced something that only we could understand, if that makes any sense. Well, yeah, I mean, I get that. Because, I mean, you know, 10 years from now when Vanderpump Rules is in honor, who knows if it's ever going to end. Might be stuck in there forever.

It's good. It's very cost-efficient television. Yeah, like there's a lot of people on reality TV who get it. But it's ever going to end? Might be stuck in there forever. It's good. It's very cost-efficient television. Yeah, like there's a lot of people on reality TV who get it, but it's like our show, like just like the way it started out in a restaurant. I mean, no one else could ever understand that. It's like lightning in a bottle. It was meant to be.

It worked out. If you tried to plan it that way, it would never happen. Yeah, no. And so many shows have tried to recreate it. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't work because it's like it works because it's us. It's Lisa. It's just us.

It just was the right math equation for that. The thing I loved about Entourage so much is just how real it was. Like the celebrities who would go on and play themselves, the clubs like Ledoux and like all the places you guys would go to. It's like you could come to L.A. and actually all the places you guys would go to it's like you could come to LA and actually go to the places that yeah and you know we shot them whatever club was happening yeah right like if you know uh what was it Prey it's now called Nightingale oh my god and then in between that it was Area oh it was Area yeah was it Area uh-huh okay so it was Prey and yeah

and that was the club so and the writers are like young guys that live here it was Prey. Yeah. And that was the club. So, and the writers are like young guys that live here. It was just automatic. Like, yeah, we're shooting, we're shooting at Prey. Yeah. You know? But it's so funny. These clubs, things, it's like Prey area. There was something else between Nightingale, right?

It was called something else. I was trying to think right now. I was like, what was it? Because there was another one. And before Prey, it was, I mean, it's, it was, it's been, the funny thing about clubs in LA is that it's the same 10 clubs They just keep changing names They just change the name

Privilege is now Hyde But in between those it was so many different things Throw a new coat of paint on the wall Put a new sign out front It's pretty wild Those were the days Remember Goa Thursdays I'm so tired of sounding like an old man but it's true

in those days there was no social media right no that's why it was so much more exclusive exactly there'd be like one or two paparazzi guys that were everywhere that were really pretty cool yeah like you could talk to them yeah and be like hey a couple drinks tonight maybe i'll make it up to you next time i see you could get into a negotiation with these guys now you got a thousand paparazzi in the club I don't know how it would be so hard um for like I think about all you guys I mean like you know Justin Bieber like these young people yeah that are thrust into this social media world whether they like it or not I mean there is nowhere to go no you can't be in the bathroom. No, I'm glad that we're the age we are

and got to experience, like, the last set of normalcy. None of that. None of that. Because now, it's like, I mean, I remember being at Ledoux one night and walking into the bathroom and Britney Spears was in there.

Right, right. And then I was, like, at Voyeur and, like, Johnny Depp was there. People were able to let their hair down. Now, you have to, if you were in one of those clubs and you're a person that could, you'll get, you gotta. Yeah. It used to be you got in the door and once you were in.

You're good. It's a deep exhale, you were good to go. And it's just not that way anymore. No. I also too, I have a theory. I don't even think people realize that they're doing it. I think that they just think that they're supposed to do it. Somebody walks in, up goes the phone.

Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of rude. Like, you know, the guy just walked in with're supposed to do it. Somebody walks in, up goes the phone, and it's kind of rude. The guy just walked in with his girlfriend or whatever it is. Maybe you don't have to videotape them sitting in their seat. I think about some of the Justin Biebers and him and his wife. They're just a married couple trying to... I know. Everywhere they go to have that, it's pretty wild.

Yeah, and then when you're on a reality show, people think they actually know you. Well, that's the other thing too. Entourage had that vibe to it a little bit. You know, guys putting you in a headlock, giving you a noogie because they feel like they know you. Yeah. And reality TV has got to be even worse. I know you, right? I know your first name.

I know everything about you. I know who you're dating. I know. So they just take liberties. I get advice and opinions that I didn't ask for. Advice. It's like, literally. You know what you should do.

I got to tell you. I'm like, we filmed that eight months ago. Like, it's just, but I, if we don't have those fans, we don't have a show. I don't have a job. Like, I appreciate it. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I, I mean, pre-COVID was not a germaphobe.

I will hug anyone, take a picture, kiss on the cheek, like whatever. Now I'm like, when we're able to go back into, which I don't even think it's going to be normal again, whatever it is. But I'm like, am I going to be an asshole? Am I going to be like six feet away? Like, don't touch me. Like, I feel like I'm just going to go back to normal. But then it's like, can we? That's not safe.

I think eventually it's gonna take a minute yeah yeah look i'm not an overly touchy i could do without i'm not just an overly touchy person but yeah when i see friends or somebody that i haven't seen yeah i like to give a hug to a buddy or shake somebody's hand or put your arm around you know it's like i don't think that's gonna happen right away but eventually you know um also, the other funny thing is back, by the way, you are there, too. So if you got in trouble, and by trouble, I mean whatever it is,

like worst case scenario, you ended up in Us Weekly. Yeah. That was like a bad page six. And then a week later, it was gone. Something else happened and a new issue came out and everybody saw it. And then it went into the bloggers where like the Perez Hiltons of the world were very powerful. You can make your career, you can hurt your career, you know.

And now it's just all gone and just everybody's a critic. Everybody's a blogger. I mean, it's pretty wild the way that people can spread information and or misinformation about you. It wasn't like that. Us Weekly got the story, called your publicist and said, listen, we heard that Kevin was talking to so-and-so. Do you care to comment? Like that was it. And they wrote it or they didn't, whatever it was.

Now it's the Wild West. It's like vastly different. Yeah. You have one thing I just thought of that we have in common on our separate show. So part of the Entourage movie was filmed where we filmed and I had my wedding. So it was two different parts in the movie. It was like when they went to Texas and like landed the helicopter

and then like at the front where there was like a fountain. Right, right, right, that house. Okay, you shot there as well? Yeah, like Simi Valley, that's where I got married. Oh, really? Yeah, so I was like watching the movie. I was like, that's where we took our photos, right where that helicopter landed. I remember when you ended up.

I remember the, I want to say it might even be the first. You and I were friends before you like ended up in the Us Weekly. Oh, way before. Yeah. And I remember. It was like pre-John Mayer days. Right. And I remember when that happened.

I remember us having a conversation. Yeah. But again, that was Us Weekly. Yeah. Can you imagine today? It was on Press Hilton. I remember when that happened. I remember us having a conversation. Yeah. But again, that was Us Weekly. Yeah. Can you imagine today? It was on Perez Hilton, I remember. He literally drew, like, cum, like, jizzing out of my mouth. He did my podcast.

He was always a good drawer. He was always a good artist, that Perez Hilton. He did my podcast last year, and I was like, I just got to show you something from the archive. I was like, do you remember this? Right. It's crazy. You know, you wonder, too, like, how,

because I'm sure he's not a bad guy. No, no. He was a sweetheart. I wonder if he feels bad at all. He absolutely does. And I actually, this is one of the over 100 interviews I've done that I still feel a little bad. And I apologized to him after. Someone had commented, they're like, Sheena, you can't have someone on your show.

And then like attack them. I was like, first of all, I didn't attack him. But I did. You don't have to ask questions. I did bring up something he did in 2007 with Britney Spears and Orlando Bloom and selling these t-shirts. So you said, hey, did you think that it was a little out of line? Yeah, I called him out. What did he do exactly? He, like, started selling shirts

that, I forget exactly what it was, but it was basically, like, something about, like, Britney needs to die, or, like, it was, like, something, it was very negative. Yeah, Brittany needs to die or like it was like something it was very negative yeah you think yeah like I don't remember exactly what it was but when I told my best friend Ariana that he was going to be on my show she's like can you please ask him about this for me right and I was like oh I don't even remember him doing that I mean he was very remorseful and felt really bad and you know now he's he's a dad and he's well that's what I was going to say now he's a dad because you know that's what I was going to say. Now he's a dad because, you know, I can remember he would, like, be hard on people's kids.

Oh, yeah. And I think when you then have a kid, you go, wow, that would be really hurtful if somebody did that to me. Yeah. So I've heard from people that, like, he's actually really cool. Yeah, he was awesome. Oh, this is so nostalgic, thinking of Hollywood back in the mid to late 2000s. Yeah, I'm sure he's back in the day, But it really was just pre-social media.

It was. I mean, I think when I graduated college, I think I had a trio. I didn't even have a Blackberry yet. Right. And even the cameras on that were a joke. Oh, terrible. Yeah, so you could zoom in.

What we do now, it's absurd. We filmed the reunion. Wide-angle lens, yeah. You could shoot a movie on the iPhone 11. Yeah, we literally just filmed the reunion on our iPhones. They sent over this huge 70-inch television screen with all of these GoPro-looking things, but the main camera was the iPhone.

Right, crazy. And the quality is so good. Yeah, but you've got three different lenses. It's crazy. If you got a picture on whatever crappy phone, it was like, you look back at that picture now, you're like, wait, who is that? I think that's me and my friend.

You know, so yeah, you couldn't get that shot in the club of whoever you were trying to get, you know? No. So yeah, I think it's got, I mean, I don't go out like that anymore, but it's got to be different. I don't really either. You got to be guarded, right?

But like occasionally there'll be a birthday or something that like I'll have to go to Hyde for. Right. Well Hyde's probably in my opinion whatever probably the lesser of the evils. If I were going to go anywhere

it would probably be Hyde. Nightingale like A little aggressive Nightingale's a little I was so glad we filmed there this past summer and I was so glad

that I had a procedure I froze my eggs and my procedure was the day before and I had a call time at Nightingale the next day and I had just I fell I had a bird accident I froze my eggs and my procedure was the day before and I had a call time at Nightingale the next day and I had just, I fell. I had a bird accident. But when you say you had

a call time at Nightingale, so like they're going to shoot in the club. Yes. Yeah. So they were shooting in the club. So everybody is hanging normal, but like there's, you guys are filming. See, wow. Like the same as like the Hills would do back in the day. Right, right, right. I can remember being there like, okay, I'm going to try to stay out of the background. Yeah, but it was with all of the... Because I love the Hills. I don't know. I want to be in this episode. we do. I can remember being there like okay I'm going to try to stay out of the background. Yeah but it was with

all of the hills. I don't know I want to be in this episode. Same I remember being at Ledoux one night and like Frankie like grabbed a bottle of Grey Goose and like smashed it over someone's head and it was like all the cameras all that but like now I mean I'm 35 years old. Even last summer like

everyone who was going to the club that night was all the new people like the 24-25 year olds and I'm like I don't want to do this. I get it's my job. But you'll do it for, yeah. And listen, I, as a general rule, don't do it, but yeah, there's certain events or things that happen where you could end up at a place. Well, I was able to get a doctor's note and I literally had my doctor speak to my producer and was like, she, she. She cannot do this. No. And I was like, oh, thank God. So I didn't have to.

That's a veteran move. Yeah. Okay. That was a fun throwback. Yeah. Trip down memory lane. Oh, yeah. So tell me about Action Park Media.

How did it get started? How many shows are you guys doing? Okay. Is it just podcasts? Well, so it's an idea that I had been sort of sitting on for a while. I have really bad insomnia, so I discovered the podcast, and it would help me sleep. Yeah. It would just kind of relax me. Because watching TV is like the bright light in your face keeping you awake.

So I started listening to the podcast, and I got into it. But from a business standpoint, it creates intellectual property. it creates intellectual property. Okay, so if somebody comes in and does a podcast about babysitting. I don't know why I'm saying babysitting. That was the first thing. Maybe because we were talking about Jerry and his baby. And it becomes a huge hit

and then it becomes a TV show and then you own a piece of it. So it's a good way to develop property for TV shows, movie ideas, whatever it is. So that was the initial idea. And, you know, right now we have about seven or eight. And of course, not asking anybody, but cry me a river, we all got hit by the COVID thing.

But we launched on January 8th, most of our shows. And then, you know, by March, whatever, the world was over. And one of the things, I don't know if you've seen this with the podcast world, but the data, as if I'm some expert, people listen to podcasts as part of their routine, whether it's the morning drive or you go to the gym. It's part of, you know, this is my time. I'm in the car. I want to listen to this on the way there, the way to work, and this on the way home.

And now that everybody's routines are so jumbled, they think that people are home, they're listening to podcasts, but they're not as much. They're not listening as much because everybody's very out of sorts. Yeah, that's actually a good point. It makes sense. Yeah. See, I didn't think of it that way because with like my YouTube, that's obviously visual. So that's like fun to watch. Right. But with my podcast, I'm like, I need to like, I was thinking about doing two episodes a week. So I'm like, I need to like, put more content out to entertain people. But I just stuck to the normal once a week. But I wasn't even thinking about that. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a routine thing. And I think people feel like they're not in their routine. And ad dollars are down. Because everybody's nervous. But kind of like Coachella. Everybody's looking to that October, November, December as where we'll all be. Well, I mean, but I think from a podcast standpoint, that will be that will be back. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I think so, too.

And then the idea is to, you know, ultimately produce TV shows. But honestly, I'm having so much fun with the pod. Ironically, I don't have a podcast. I don't even have a podcast. I have the you know, the network, but it's, it's fun to kind of, you know, help curate the shows and try to make something work. And you know, we have a few that we've started with nothing and are slowly building and we've had some people that have come in and gone viral. It's been it's been a lot of fun. I'm also a huge true crime. I mean, do you listen? Are you a podcast fan? So I started this past

year listening more. The first year I did podcasts, I hadn't listened to any really at all. I would listen to an episode if I was going on someone else's just to kind of see their vibe. So know what they're talking about, right. But now, especially living in Palm Springs,

that's like what I look forward to is my drives back and forth. There you go. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, because I love listening to music. So when I'm driving, I want to listen to music, but... Me too. I don't listen to podcasts in the car, but people do. Yeah. It's like a huge thing. Yeah. So I started. Me too. I like to listen to music. Yeah. I was filming in Burbank and then I was driving out to Palm Springs and it was like 5pm

on a normal workday. So it was like a four hour drive. And I'm like, okay, I could listen to the same playlist I listen to every day. Coachella 2019 playlist, or I could listen to a podcast. So I asked Ariana, I was like, I'm actually curious to see what like Vanderpump Rules podcasts are like, because there are so many fan podcasts out there. And I just wanted to see the feedback. So I was like, what are some of the ones you listen to? And so now I'm obsessed with everything iconic with

Danny Pellegrino because he talks about our show, he does recaps, but then it's just like pop culture in general and he does a lot of reality TV, but he's so entertaining just by himself. And maybe it's because it's my show he's recapping and I know the people he's talking about, but I started listening

to that one and then there's the Sexy Me podcast. When it pops up, you want to hear it. Yeah. When you see that you get that notification that there's a new episode. Yeah. Yeah, you look forward to it, which is why what I was telling you about, I mean, I have my few podcasts that I love, and I count on them for a new episode on Wednesday or Thursday or whenever it is.

And when they just like randomly disappear for a month, it bothers me. It bothers me. I need them. And it bothered me last week that for a month, it bothers me. It bothers me. I need them. And it bothered me last week that I didn't have a new episode. I think one is, I think you're okay. You've been super, super consistent. Very consistent. I was very impressed with your rundown of, because it really is all about consistency.

Yeah. Because your fans depend on that kind of thing. Totally. But I'm a huge true crime. Have you gotten into the true crime part? No, I haven't. But I love crime shows. Yeah. I mean, and true crime. Have you gotten into the true crime part? No, I haven't. But I love crime shows. And true crime, you know,

the crime junkie is a good one. It's like two girls. And it's funny, they don't really I don't know, they just talk about the case, you know, but I don't know. There's something about their voices that are soothing and I don't know, but it's my favorite genre. And that's the thing too. You have to like the voice you're listening to.

So everyone who listens to my podcast, thank you because I hate my voice and I think it's so annoying. Well, yeah, I would say the voice is pretty important on the podcast. Yeah.

And it depends. Like I said, I don't listen to it in the car. So I listen to podcasts to unwind. So I like the soft spoken. That's why I like my Calm app.

Tamara. Calm app. On the Calm app. That that's what i like when i need to unwind before bed i'll listen they must be crushing it during this pandemic the most soothing voice and i'm like in one two but i mean everybody's right that's like keeping people sane that that that would have been a good stock to jump on. That and Zoom. Oh, my God. Right? Can you imagine? Zoom. That guy, you know, whatever. It's not his fault. Yeah.

That he made billions of dollars at the, you know, everybody else's misery. Yeah. But literally this, like, thank you so much. This could not have come at a better time. When Jessica Hall last week had asked if I would come and do her show, she's like, yeah, with Kevin. I was like, oh, like, we'll be on the show together. And she's like, no, it's his Kevin. I was like, oh, like, we'll be on the show together. And she's like, no, it's his company.

I was like, wait, what? Because Podcast One and I just parted ways literally this week. And so I was like, does he still have the same phone number? I was like, I haven't talked to him since last year. And it just couldn't have come at a better time. And also, too, in like that first conversation, I got off the phone with you and I was like, wow, this girl knows what she's talking about.

Yeah. A lot of times people, you ask them and they have to get back to you on these answers and you had it all. Yeah. And we were still on the phone and you were- I was like, I'll send it to you right now. You were fired on data sheets and all kinds of stuff, which is helpful. Yeah.

You know, trying to sell your podcast, right? You know, because it's all brands. We talked a little bit about this, but how do you feel about the live reads and the ad part of it? Honestly, all I've done are live reads. So that's kind of all I know. There's been maybe two or three episodes where I've taken a break. One of them was more recently, and it was my highest ever listened to podcast, but it was a two hour one i had all of the men from the shawls of sunset on bravo on one episode and we vlogged it we like made like a makeshift studio in my living room we had the zoom call we had all of them on like the 70 inch screen and in between each one i'm

like i can't seamlessly transition while doing a zoom so i'm like all right and we'll be right back with mike after the break and then ne Nima. And it worked out so well. And, I mean, it was like 120,000, like, raw downloads. But then that one got up to, like, over, like, 200,000. Like, it was crazy. So that was when I took breaks on, but not for ads. Do you find it stressful trying to get guests? No, actually.

I think in the first year, I felt a lot of pressure to make sure i had the right guest i interviewed them i listened i made sure that we'd hit a b and c and then the more i got used to doing it i realized like i mean right now like i have all of these notes but i've barely looked at them we're just having a great conversation right so i always like to be really prepared it's good to have a map to go back to in the event it hits a snag or it slows down you could look down and go okay but I really learned that

I did have a fan base who actually just liked listening to me when it was last March I went to Australia and when I was out there I had a huge press trip that I did and there was one thing I said about Brandy Glanville maybe coming back to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

And I was like, oh my God, she's reality TV gold. Like, yeah, I'm so excited for her to come back. But that really hurt some people's feelings on the show who I'm close to. Is she a villain of the show? Brandi Glanville? Yeah, absolutely. But she's very entertaining like

i mean she's good tv you know she's that no matter how you cut it you want to watch no matter how you cut it she's good tv but the things that i said like i know like lisa was a little upset because she felt like i was siding with brandy over her and like one of the reasons they had a falling out was because lisa sided with me over brandy and Oh, yikes. All of this, like, old drama. And so, and then... Faye Resnick designed my house, but she's not on that show. She pops in and out. Oh, she does, okay. Yeah, because she's friends with Kyle, I think.

Right, yeah, they're like besties. Yeah, so after this trip, I then saw some things that Brandy tweeted, like, about me, and I'm like, I was just kind of having your back, and then you're going to go and say shit about me? Like, I thought we were cool. So I decided to take a play on her book called Drinking and Tweeting and do a drinking and podcasting episode. And it was just me and my old friend, not friends anymore, Janet, who we just sat on my couch.

We got drunk. We smoked weed and we just shot the shit. And people loved it and that had higher listens than a lot of my interviews so i was like oh okay people actually just want to hear what i have to say well that's the other thing too you're you know you want a good guest but at the end of the day your viewers are tuning in to see you yeah i mean like i'm a big joe rogan fan obviously everybody loves jo Rogan yeah I like his guests but I'm listening for Joe Rogan totally right so that really is it's true like yeah and

and you have to make it that way you have to be the star of your show you can't be guest dependent yeah if you don't have a guest you should be able to knock out 30 minutes 35 minutes just like talking about whatever it is yeah so one of the things I think I learned in my first year podcasting too, because I was trying to, I'm very much a planner. I like everything to be perfect as much as possible. I'm trying to be better about that now, but I would have a guest on and I'm asking them a question and they're answering it, but I wasn't necessarily fully listening because I was thinking of what's my next question. I need to make sure I get the next question. then when I would listen they're answering you're like scrolling yeah and then I would listen back to my show and they said something like two minutes

before I asked and I was like oh my god I went and then people were like commenting like I think my podcast because I think I have a lot of hate listeners as like two and a half stars I know I'm good at what I do but people like I was reading the comments and they're like listen to to your guests. You never let them finish. And I'm like, okay, but also like, I'm going to try and be better about that, but also it's my show. Correct. So I'm going to talk about myself. And if there's something whenever you want to talk, you talk and that's it. Yeah. And if there's something that I can relate to that you say, I'm going, I'm not just going to sit here and be quiet and not interact and not have that conversation because I'm like, I just need to let my guests talk.

So the more that I've done it, I've now done like 120 shows. I sometimes just have a girlfriend of mine on or just me and my boyfriend or my little sister. And I just, I like to have fun with it. Yeah. And also too, like you said, that the other thing that I see happen with people is, oh yeah, I can do a podcast. I get people. There's a learning curve. Yeah. You could have a great personality, a yeah, I can do a podcast. I get people, there's a learning curve.

Yeah. You could have a great personality, a great voice, a lot to say. It takes a second to get your footing. I mean, you're not used to interviewing guests. Yeah, you have to learn how to do that. You get better at that. I'm used to being interviewed.

Yeah, you don't become Howard Stern right away. You got to learn how to do it. I think people underestimate how difficult it can be to have a successful podcast. A lot of work. Yeah. And then especially with like live reads when we're having a conversation about your movie that just came out, but I have to transition into pretty litter and to tell you about my cat. So it's like finding the ways to do that. I think I've gotten pretty good at, there'll be like keywords that you say, like, hold on. Okay, speaking of that, like-

It's funny you should mention cats. Right, yeah. You know, as somebody that's on the business side of the podcast, I can tell you this for a fact, which obviously you know. Yeah. They love that. Yeah.

If you really lean into your ads and they go, wow, she really likes our product. Yeah. And you can convey that feeling to them. Nope, they're coming back. Yeah, and I'm- They're coming back. It makes sense.

They're paying your bills. Be nice to them. Exactly. Some of these ad. Yeah. They're coming back. It makes sense. They're paying your bills. Be nice to them. Exactly. Some of these ad reads I hear make me almost uncomfortable. Uh-huh. It's like, well, don't do it. Yeah. Because I don't know.

It didn't sound great. If I were the head of that company, I'd be like, yo, are you kidding? Yeah. I'd run another, spend another dollar on that. You know, some good podcasts, too, where people are finicky with those live reads. I felt like I needed to start being a little pickier with my ads, too, not just taking anything because it was money. Right. Because I'm like, okay, I remember specifically I had Lance Bass and his husband on.

And that was one of the episodes I had, like, I have four live reads. And one of them was, like, about deodorant. And the specific words that I needed to use, you know, like, oh something i'm like oh this is so awkward but i just like i got through it and like it was like i felt like one of my best episodes because i was like wow i crushed that right you like rolled through it you navigate through it people care about they have opinions about what they want to line up with in terms of brands. You know, it's important. Yeah, and it's like if it's, there was one for Torrid.

It's like a plus size shopping store. And I was like, okay, but I'm a size zero. So how am I going to sell this? But I was like, you know what, let me relate it to someone else I know. And I was like, you know, back in high school, I was a cheerleader. I was the flyer. But one of my friends who was a little curvier was the bass. And we would love to go to the mall and go shopping after.

And I, like, told an old story about how I would go to Charlotte Roos and she would go to tour it. And, you know, I was like, my mom or whatever. And I just was able to relate it. So I'm like, I can still sell this even though it's not about me specifically right but I'm relating it to an old story or something that is going to get people interested as long as you're having fun with it and like you said like you're having fun with your podcast and if you want to do videos and sing like do it yeah and that's that's the thing is I never let what people say like well you if you let what people say get in your well, you, if you let what people say, get in your way, like just in general, well,

everybody, we'd, we'd all be in the closet, like hiding under a blanket. Yeah. It's funny because the only negative comments on all of my YouTube videos is my music video. Like, Oh my God,

who's telling this girl? She can think you are making a music video. You can do whatever you want. Right. But I'm like, especially now, if you had the opportunity to make a music video and look that hot, like, you wouldn't do it.

Right. And if I want to add some backup dancers, mind your fucking business. By the way, but the haters aren't in sync. Strangely, the haters pay the bills. Yeah.

Crazy as it is. And it took me a second to not get offended by some social media stuff. At first, I was like, fuck you. Yeah. Like, I would literally, like,

and now you go, you're whatever, you let it roll off your shoulders. But at first it feels super personal. Oh, totally. I used to block everyone. If you said one bad thing.

Yep. And then I realized, without even thinking about it. Yeah. Done. Done. And now I'm like, cause it's like,

yo, if you hate me so bad, stop. What are you doing? Right. Leave me alone. But boom, I was a big blocker too.

Now I just don't. Now I don't care. It's like, now I actually like, I feel bad that you feel the need to come and comment on, I'm a stranger to you. You watch me on a television show. You don't know me personally.

You don't know anything about my life. You're judging me on an edit. And like, what is wrong in your life that you feel okay doing this? Like that makes me sad for you. You know what? It's also too, I think there's such an anonymity. You can

say whatever you want. I'm a big believer obviously in free speech. I just think you should have to put a face to it. You want to get on your page and tell you you suck and you shouldn't be doing this and that. I shouldn't be able to hide behind a fake avatar

and a fake account. Say what you got to say. Show yourself. Yeah. Or you're a coward. And I've told people, I said, I dare you to come to Sir.

I work every Wednesday. Come say it to my face. I'll buy you a drink. Right. Has anyone ever insulted me to my face? Of course not. Of course not.

No, because they're just hiding behind the little egg photo. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think that's one thing that social media could do. Yeah. Say whatever you want. You got to be you. Mm-hmm. That's it I'm saying. Like, I think that's one thing that social media could do. Yeah. Say whatever you want. You got to be you.

Mm-hmm. That's it. Yeah. Like a driver's license. Like, here's your online identity. No fake accounts. Yeah. You know?

So, I don't know. And the worst is. I mean, that'll never happen. No, of course not. But it's like when it's a mother with like a Bible quote in their profile. You're like, really, lady? So, if their profile is public my favorite thing to do is to find a picture of their kids comment on it and to just say i will pray for

your kids that no one cyber bullies them like you're doing to me how about you think about that like do you want someone saying these things to your child it's also funny too like when somebody says something and you go and you look at their page like the other day somebody was like i hate your air force one he's like ripping my sneakers i'm like yeah i don't give a shit but i click on the guys and he's like wearing an orange skin tight orange tank top and he's got no business wearing anything skin tight and i i said to him like privately i said dude whatever you don't like my shoes but you're wearing an orange. You have the worst avatar on Instagram. You have no business talking about my shoes with your orange tank top.

Take a look at your fucking Instagram page, you know? Yeah. But usually, like you said, when you connect with people, they back right down. You use the DM and be like, yo, hey, man. Well, you know, you say that, and that's how, oh, hey, man, I'm a big fan of the show it's like all right well five seconds ago you were telling me they just want attention right and i used to give it to them i would feed into that where one day someone because it can be fun too yeah oh like my clapbacks on twitter like oh i i will i will do those until twitter is not a thing anymore right because i love putting people in their place when they're wrong and I'm funny and people laugh and they like it.

But what I realized was I was only responding to the negative ones. And that's the thing where it's like, what about all of your fans? You're not going to acknowledge us. You're just going to, and I'm like, oh my God, that's such a good point. It's a very, very, very real point. I even it out now and I'm like, I try and favorite everything

just because at least I'm acknowledging that I see you. Like I can't respond to everything. But a like, that's why that like button is there. Yeah. Also too, if somebody like on Instagram, if somebody sends me a DM, whether it's a guy that's an Entourage fan and I believe that they're genuine, I always respond. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. You know, thanks for the kind words appreciate that you know you know when people are being sincere and if somebody's being sincere i try to make it right you can't do it for everybody yeah you know when sometimes you got some time to kill yeah you know it's it is a great idea that you had to not because it's true yeah you can't give all all your so to get your attention i gotta say something nasty to you yeah i could tell you how hot you are and how great you are and you ignore me. But if I say something nasty, you'll respond.

Yeah. It encourages that behavior. Yeah. So one of the other things I've been doing recently, there's this app called Community. Have you heard of it? No. So it's where- I need another app like I need a hole in there.

Okay. So it's texting. So instead of just giving out my actual phone number, or then they can text me on this number, it goes to my community app. But it's like my DMs, I'm at 99 plus for the last 10 years. I'm not going to see all these. I'm not going to sort through them.

So somebody can text you. Yeah. So it's not your private number, but somebody can text you. No, but it does go directly to me. So for those of you listening. It's just a filter. It's kind of a filter. Yeah.

So if you do want to text me, my number is 310-299-9324. So when you join the app, you get a new, they give you a number. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So you get to pick your area code. Wow. They give you a phone number.

And then I post that number all the time. I shout it out on my podcast. It's on my YouTube. And people don't believe it. And you really will pick your area code. Wow. They give you a phone number, and then I post that number all the time. I shout it out on my podcast. It's on my YouTube, and people don't believe it. And you really will get it. Yeah, so it's like all of these messages have come through today. Well, yeah, if I was sitting there,

I'd be like, well, that's not her real number. Yeah. But it is. It's getting to you. No, it's not my real number that my boyfriend calls me on, but it comes to me on my phone just in a different way.

Yeah, but I'm going to see these messages before I'm going to go into my extra DMs. I'm sure that extra DMs are just ridiculous, right? But I will say I'm glad that one day I did check them because my boyfriend, current boyfriend, slid in the DMs. Back in the day. Yeah, so I met him

at a party, didn't exchange numbers, and then the next morning my friend was like, check your DMs, there's a cute pic of us from last night. And then I see one right above it and i was like who's this and i open it and it was him there he is so the very rare times i've checked it have been good there you go but i do have my community app i've also been doing weekly huddles where 10 fans get a pay i think it's like 20 or 30 dollars all of the money goes to a COVID relief. Good for you. It's a one-hour

interaction. It's like a Zoom where we can either have a topic or I just kind of go in order and I'm like, if you have a question, I'll spill some tea. I ask them to please not record it in case I do spill tea so I don't get in trouble. But I have one tomorrow and

we actually started a group chat on Instagram. So the 12 people who have been- Well, that's what I was going to say. With your fake number, can you do group texts? Not group chats on the number. On the number. But on like Instagram, we started a DM group. Right, right, right.

And so- People drag me into those things and I hate it because it's usually strangers. Oh, totally. Those ones I don't join. Like, why am I in this? Yeah, but this one, it's like, I've gotten to know these people. I talk to them every week. There's sometimes like, cause now I have like my main group, but when there's like an open spot, I think I have three open spots left today for tomorrow's

huddle. And they, um, one of the guys in the huddle started it and then he'll add like the new people. And it's just a way that they can all keep in touch with each other. I can chime in when I want. But I've noticed with some of the people who have joined in, there are things that we've talked about that are really genuinely helping them. Like, tomorrow we're going to focus on anxiety. Yeah, that's the first thing you said when you asked me about COVID and quarantine it's like yeah it's a high anxiety like people don't know how to vent it you know making people comfortable talking about it yeah i think that's one of the positive things

i think people are okay talking about anxiety and depression and like the stress of quarantine yeah what's going to happen but i feel like a lot of people don't feel safe talking about those topics and they think like oh they're easing into it yeah and so like by me just opening up in the group chat literally every single person was like wait you me too me too me too and then one girl just um alexandra celebrated two and a half years sober and then another girl lindsey was like i'm five years sober it was like, there are just so many things. And now they've connected through me. But now they can keep in touch.

Right now they're friends. It's the coolest thing. So I'm doing those every week. 100% of the money all goes to charity. Good for you. And thank you. So that's just like another way that I try and just keep in touch, give back. It's important.

Yeah. It's important to be in touch. And like you said, about the liking, the Twitter things, I think that's fair. Yeah. You know, it's like, yeah, you don't have time to sit and respond and tweet and blow up everybody's timeline with your responses. But it's like, hey, I see you. Totally. Thank you, you know.

Or like when I've been asked. And they know, obviously. Yeah, absolutely. Especially when I've been asked about my egg freezing journey. When I'm going through that process, I've done it twice. I'm doing it once more. I will check my random DMS because there have been hundreds of women who reach out asking questions,

just being like, Oh my God, me too. And that's one thing that we filmed on the show this season. You didn't really see much of it. So that's another thing where, you know, in these huddles,

it's like, I can make one just focused on that. So women feel comfortable asking all of the questions. I'm such an open book, which gets me in trouble a lot of times because I say too much. Right. But I just love to give back as much as I can. So, again, you guys, text me on my community app. It's 310-299-9324.

I will be posting huddles every week and I went viral on TikTok this week I just want to say I'm at like 5.3 million views insane I'm like fuck you Instagram I can't even wrap my head around TikTok I guess that's what the kids are doing

it's the new thing and I thought I was too old for it is it just people just dancing? no it's not why is everybody dancing on TikTok? that's like the thing and i thought i was too old for it is it just people just dancing no it's not so why is everybody dancing on tiktok that's like the thing it's like you someone makes up a dance and then you copy it and that's become like a trending thing but this one outside of dancing oh my god 5.8 5.8 holy shit and what are you doing so look but you're dancing oops wait sorry you're dancing no no i wasn't i was I was dancing just in that part because of the song. Right.

But this was a little painting project. Yeah. Okay, okay. I get it. Yeah, so it's like we're still doing something creative. Ooh, by the way. Yeah. Making art in the garage.

I like it. Yeah. Yeah, we did garage art. That's cool. Yeah, so that was cool. But what other projects are you working on right now? And tell everyone

where they can find you. Well, yeah. I mean, you know, Action Park, at Action Park Media Group is the company here. And I'm at Mr. Kevin Connolly because all the Kevin Connolly's.

Wait, that's so funny because that's how I introduced you. All the Kevin Connolly's. People are like, oh, Mr. I'm like, well, yeah. By the time I joined Instagram, I was very late to the game. All the Kevin Connolly people are like oh Mr. I'm like well yeah by the time I joined Instagram

I was very late to the game all the Kevin Connolly's were taking there was like 5,000 Kevin Connolly's on Instagram but yeah man

we're cranking out content here and you know we're gonna take a few things sell a few TV shows and it's now just the waiting game

with everybody else we gotta get back to whatever I hate the expression the new normal but you know we just have to see what that looks like so well, well, thank you for being my first guest here at action park. Oh my God. I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for listening guys. Bye.

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