Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Impractically Joking with James Murray
Episode Date: December 11, 2020Scheana, along with co-host Jamie Lynne are joined via zoom with one of Scheana’s faves James Murray; star of TruTV’s Impractical Jokers. Murr has truly been a dream guest for Scheana and... the episode did not disappoint. See what made the hair on Murr’s arms stand up, some emotions come out and what he said some of his craziest punishments have been! What is Murr’s most embarrassing moment ever? Hint: It surprisingly did not take place on the Impractical Jokers show. Be sure to check out his new book called DON’T MOVE. Special thanks to Kohl’s for sponsoring this episode. Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA. Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea.
This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea.
Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. I've got Jamie Lynn back in the house co-hosting.
Hello.
Oh, my gosh. My dreams are coming true today. For those of you who have been listening for a long time, you know, it has been my dream and goal to get one of the Impractical Jokers on my podcast.
And here we have it today, Mr. James Murray.
Hi guys, how are you? We heard that you're a huge fan of the show. That's amazing.
Yes, I am obsessed with the show.
Right now, I feel like I'm on my own little dinner party sex.
I'm like, oh, he's right there.
Yeah, this is your dream come true right now.
It is.
Thanks.
I never think that people watch our show.
You know what I mean?
Is it the same for you?
You run into somebody, you don't think that they've watched the TV show.
I don't know.
It does.
I mean, I get what you're saying.
It's like I was getting gas in San Diego the other day.
I literally, I looked like the worst I could possibly look.
And this guy was like, oh, yeah, you're from that Vanderpump show, right? And it was like very much a straight male who isn't normally our demographic, like typical audience.
And I was like, yeah.
And he's like, oh, yeah.
He's like, I watch you all the time. I was like, oh, it just caught me so off guard. So yeah. Years later still. Do you have
anyone like that who came up to you as a fan and you're like, what? It happens all the time. Like
the weirdest one I think was, I went to visit the Vatican. Oh, and the Pope?
Show plays, you know, around the world.
And somebody came up and they were Italian.
They weren't American.
And they were like, impractical jokers.
It was so weird.
Yeah.
What are you called in Italy?
It's interesting.
In Italy, it's impractical jokers.
But in some of the world, there's no foreign word for impractical.
So they call the show different things so like in belgium the show is called fruta f u e r t e uh and it's
called fruta vierden which means four dicks that's a funny translation in holland there's no word in dutch for impractical so in
holland they call it de like d-e uh uh de and the second word is fuckers f-u-k-k-e-r-s oh my gosh
i have a lot of family in holland actually i'm gonna ask them if they watch the fuckers yeah
because we have one of the fuckers and one of the dicks with us yeah yeah so I've been watching the
show from the beginning there was one time actually beginning of this year my boyfriend
and I are not this year yeah actually was this year because we didn't get locked down till March
so it was like January we were in New York and we got stuck on a true tv marathon for like five
six seven episodes and then we look, we're like, oh my
God, it's dark. Wait, we missed our dinner reservation. We were just like so invested.
And I think they play jokers, uh, 17, 17 days a week. They play.
Yeah. Well, we definitely watch it a lot, especially when the lockdown first started.
That was just part of our daily routine. Anytime I need to pick me up, I put you guys on.
You can't watch your show and not laugh. Thanks. Yes. But I have a lot of questions about that.
But before we get into all of that, I just wanted to say congratulations because I know you're newly
married. Bam. Bam. You said yes. Yes. It was so interesting because we had to plan
four different weddings at the same time, right?
Because we didn't get to do the original idea, right? And the original guest didn't get to do.
And then we planned a wedding that was half the size, a quarter of the size.
And then we planned a wedding that was like in its most extreme, just the bridal party in my backyard, you know?
And thankfully, we were able to pull off a wedding that was a quarter of the size. It was mostly outdoors. Uh,
and it was a perfect weather. It was,
we lucked out so much and it was great.
And purely coincidentally,
we were able to go on the honeymoon because a year ago when I booked the
honeymoon,
I chose a country that still allows Americans to travel there because a lot of, a lot of, a lot of countries, as an American, you can't travel there anymore.
You know what I mean?
And we just purely coincidentally chose to go on a honeymoon to a place where they still let us go.
And we were able to pull it off.
And it was the first time traveling in eight months.
I can't believe we got married and we pulled it off.
And I'm very happy.
I love that.
Well, congratulations. It's exciting. good things coming out of 2020 yes although I would be worried that
your friends set you up at any point were you like is she an actress like does she really like
me on the show there was an episode on the show where uh we were playing like uh like psychologists
and people coming in for like uh to check us out to rate us
and see how we were and how our uh how our new therapy ideas were and this woman comes in and
her and i start flirting right and then i think she's legitimately oh i saw this one yes i know
exactly what i'm talking about i truly thought she was flirting with me and i was like i kind
of whispered to the guys it's like it might be flirting with so. And I was like, I kind of whispered to the guys, it's like, am I being flirted with? So I started flirting. And then at the end, the guys come in and say,
okay, you can head out now. She was an actress they hired just to make me look like an idiot
on TV. So I was worried for, for a moment, I was worried that Melissa might be, you know,
but thank God it seems to be real is all I'm saying. Good. I love that.
It seems to be real.
Yes.
And on top of being a TV star, you're a number one selling author.
Congrats on that as well.
That was, I'll go one further.
So my first book I wrote in 2004, long before Jokers.
It was called Awakened.
And we were on TV. We couldn't, long before Jokers. It was called Awakened and we weren't on TV. We didn't know
anybody. I couldn't get a single publisher to read the book, right? So it sat on my computer.
I wrote the book on a dare in 2004 and I spent a year writing it and sat on my computer for a
decade until Jokers. Jokers comes around 2010 and it's been running for 10 years now. And because of that,
I sent the same book into HarperCollins in 2015 or so, or 16, and they loved it and bought the
trilogy and we hit number one and bestseller list, things like that. And because of that,
I threw a book launch party. And at the party is where I met my now wife three years ago. So a decision I made in 2004 on a dare to write a book that didn't work and wasn't successful
ended up getting published and being a hit.
And I met my now wife at that party for that book.
How crazy.
Think about how choices you make that seem totally unrelated to anything a decade ago
and a decade and a half ago winds up being my future.
That's amazing.
I love thinking of all those little things that lead up to where we are today.
Oh, totally.
That's so cool.
And now I know you have a new book called Don't Move.
I heard, is that being turned into a movie?
Yeah, that's what we're working on.
There it is.
Don't Move.
It's great. It's Yes. It's great.
It's great.
It's great.
I love like fast-paced action-packed thrillers.
I love that kind of reading or that kind of TV show, like 24, things like that, or shows
like that are really exciting.
So the book is immensely readable.
It's about a church group from the Bronx that goes on their summer camping trip to West
Virginia, but they wander into the wrong
woods by accident. Because in these woods, there's a really kind of terrifying creature, an arachnid
that lives in the treetops. And it can hunt them down by sensing their vibrations in the forest.
And the only way out of the forest is a class five rapids river, and they have no boat. It's
so exciting. And from the first page, you're gonna be like, you're not gonna be able to put it down.
Yes.
I love that when you can read a book,
but then also see it in the theater
because I have a very vivid imagination.
So when it's good writing,
I'm watching it in my head,
but then to go and be able to see the movie too.
And you're like, oh, see, I saw it this way,
but that's so awesome.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
So what stage are you at with the movie?
We're out pitching it as a movie right now. It just had a meeting the other day about it. Um,
we, what we do is all the books that we write, we write with the intention of
developing it as a TV show or movie. Cause my, my background for jokers was I, I worked in TV
development. I ran development for a TV company for a decade and that's how we pitched and sold
jokers.
And so everything that we do is with the intention of developing and selling it as a TV show or movie.
So we're out pitching Don't Move Right Now.
And I'm also writing The Stowaway, which is a thriller.
It comes out next June as well.
Exciting.
I love that.
Did you know you always wanted to write or was it actually on a dare that kind of propelled you in this direction?
It was, yeah, I always loved writing for sure.
I was an English major.
I loved writing.
And my father always wanted to be a writer.
And he unfortunately wasn't able to do it because of, you know, life and choices beyond his control and being drafted and having a raise
of family and things like that. But he always wanted to write, always dreamed of writing a
book. So I think there was kind of ingrained in me in an early age, uh, that kind of love
writing and reading. And, uh, that being said, I just love scaring the hell out of people.
It looks so exciting and scary. I just love either making them laugh or making them,
you know, cry tears. I love that. That's awesome.
So I heard that you carry around a list of the most embarrassing things that have happened
to you.
How have you heard that?
I do extensive research.
We've got a good research team here at Shenanigans.
I do have a top 10 list. I do have a top 10 list and the
list is always changing and only some are from Impractical Jokers. Most in fact are not from
Impractical Jokers. Give us one from the list. Not the farting elevator one. We already know that one.
That's great. That's such a classic one. Yes. God, one. I mean, that's great.
That's such a classic one.
Yes.
God, what can I tell? Because I'm not drinking right now.
Have a drink. Pour a drink. Have one for me. I'm pregnant.
What can I tell that's safe and won't embarrass me too badly?
One, I cannot tell. Number two, I cannot tell.
Number one.
Was there a number one that's changed that now you could tell?
Yes.
Okay, so what was once number one?
It only changed recently.
Number one and two, I can't possibly tell.
And I've known you for 30 years.
Number four, I cannot tell.
Number five is the farting one.
You know that one.
This is another bodily function. But years ago, long before I was married, I had gone out a few times with an individual.
And clearly it was going to be the night that we go back in and hook up for the first time. So my apartment and and she went to freshen up in the restroom.
I had a guest restroom and then the master bedroom has a restroom as well.
I, I, she went in there to freshen up and I was in the kitchen and I took that opportunity.
Uh, we'd been drinking, obviously.
I took that opportunity to, uh, pass wind and I realized that I did not in fact pass
wind.
I actually, uh, soiled myself entirely. You sharted. I sharted.
Okay, you can say it. And there's no music playing. There's no candles lit yet in the apartment.
And I ran as fast as I could into the master bedroom, slammed the door shut before she came
out of the guest bathroom. And I went to the bathroom and I tore my clothes off. And I looked
in the bathroom as I went to the toilet and there was no clothes off and I looked in the bathroom as I went to the
toilet and there was no toilet paper and the toilet paper was kept in the guest bathroom
there was no towels I had no towels in there they were all my towels and everything was kept
in the guest bathroom above the laundry room the laundry machines right so I had no tissues
no toilet paper in the master bathroom.
And I started, I'm a comedian, so I started crying, laughing at the insanity of what I did.
And so I took photos of the toilet paper roll empty, the tissue paper roll empty, my pants just, all my clothes on the floor in a crumpled pile, and no towels either.
And what I was doing, I texted the guys, Sal, Joe, and Q, the absurdity of the situation I was in, I didn't know what to do. So I jumped in the shower, rinsed off. And thankfully,
I'm a creature of habit. I have a lot of identical sets of the same clothing. So I put on the exact
same outfit and went out like 15 minutes later and had to hope that medicine worked before I, you know, it was horrible.
That sounds like right out of a movie.
Right?
No, it reminds me kind of of a scene from Along Came Polly.
Yeah.
Oh, that's hilarious.
So speaking of the other guys, Joe had actually tweeted me.
So it was one of the many, many days we spent in quarantine
where I'm just sitting on my couch watching you guys. And I don't remember what it was I tweeted
exactly, but I tagged all of you in it. And I was just like, you know, best show ever, whatever I
said. And Joe responds, it was like midnight. So I'm like, what time is it in New York? You know,
it's really late. He's on Twitter. And he was like, oh, he's like, what time is it in New York? You know, it's really late. He's on Twitter.
And he was like, oh, he's like, thanks so much for watching.
He's like, what am I getting on shenanigans?
And I was like, oh, my God.
Oh, my God. I was like, whenever you want.
I was like, we could do Zoom tomorrow.
I was like, I've had this show prepped.
I was like, I got questions.
I'm ready to go.
And then he never responded.
What?
Yeah.
See, his loss, our gain.
I know.
And you followed me on Twitter.
That was so big.
When I saw that James Murr followed me back, I was like, wait, what?
So thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for being on the show.
Yeah, this is just, it's so exciting.
I have so many questions I want to get into.
I've done my research, so I know a lot of these answers.
But for my listeners, and especially for my boyfriend, cause he wanted to hear it from you. Where did you guys
get the name, the tenderloins? In, you know, the guys that I have been friends since high school,
we met the first day of class, freshman year of high school. Right. And, um, in high school,
we kept a list going and we have a picture somewhere of the actual list from high school.
We kept a list of words you would be slightly embarrassed to say in front of a large group of people.
Words like tenderloin, moist, kubat, nougat, the inside of a stickers bar.
Like words that are just unusual, weird, like you'd be uncomfortable saying.
And tenderloin was the number one word and uh and we started this list and then when we created a
comedy troupe after high school uh we named ourselves the tenderloins purely by happenstance
and it is ironic that now we make a living by embarrassing each other you know so there you
go it's kind of fitting we were coming for a long time if you look at the open credits of jokers it
says you know created by the tenderloins it's just a you know but at this point everybody knows
it says jokers and we're following that too speaking of the opening credits i know you
had a question about larry and i have a question sal is really genuinely terrified of cats who is
afraid of a kitten sal is the most unique individual I've met in my life. He has a list of seven things he's deathly afraid of.
And he's had it since high school.
I try to get them all right.
Sweat, the common cold, bugs, strong wind, general filth, cats, and pointy objects.
When he was a kid, he got attacked by a cat, and he's terrified of cats ever since.
Seriously.
What about the wind?
Strong wind. That all relates to his eyes. When he was a kid, young, young,
his sister hit him in the eyeball with a malleable Ken Barbie doll.
He has a scar in his eye.
So he's terrified of anything that irritates his eyes,
which includes pointy objects or strong winds irritate your eyes and it gets
him all freaked out.
So if you're at dinner with him, and let's say you're sitting across the table
and your straw is pointed in the direction of him or your fork is in his direction,
he will reach across the table and move your straw away
or turn your silverware away from his eyes.
No joke.
It's so weird.
So I take it he doesn't like roller coasters.
No, not really. No way. No joke. It's so weird. So I take it. He doesn't like roller coasters. No, no way. Well, that's awesome because you guys being such good friends for so long,
you know, each other's fears, right? So that's the good thing and the bad thing. Yeah. Yeah.
So I guess you play into that obviously with all of your punishments, right?
Yeah, this is exactly right. They got me so good the other day.
We, you know, we're back to filming, right?
Finally.
Yeah, I wanted to ask about that.
We started filming at the,
it took us a few months.
We, you know, while in quarantine,
we created a new show,
which is on, oh my God, it's on tonight
at 10 o'clock, a new show called Dinner Party.
Dinner Party, oh yeah.
It's the guys having dinner together on Zoom.
It's really, really fun.
And then we, it took us a few months
to kind of wrap our heads around how do we keep making a show that demands human interaction when you can't interact
with other humans, right? Like, how do we solve that problem? Because you can't have masks on in
the show. You have to see people's reactions, right? So it took us a few months to kind of
crack the code on how to reinvent the show in a way that still works for us creatively.
We still feel like we're doing great hysterical work.
And I got to tell you, I think we figured it out.
You're not going to be able to tell a difference pre- or post-COVID,
I'm telling you.
And we cracked the code, I think.
The challenges we're doing now are COVID safe.
We've been filming for four months, thankfully without incident.
And, and they're hysterically funny. Like you're going to love it. And they did a punishment the
other day to me. That was so good. I come home and I see trucks and stuff in the driveway. I was
like, what's going on? And I walk into the house and the guys are in my backyard. And I go in the
back and said, what's going on? And this camera's around and say, okay, I'm getting punished. And
they say, Murr, you know, this, maybe this is a few weeks ago, man. They said, what's going on? And this camera's around. I say, okay, I'm getting punished. And they say, Murr, you know, maybe this is a few weeks ago.
They said, Murr, you know, for your wedding, you know, we want to check you out since you're a married man.
We want to make sure you're in good health.
Obviously, you have to consider Melissa now with your health.
We're going to give you – they bring in a doctor.
He's a urologist.
And he's going to give me a – he's going to put a catheter in me.
Catheter.
Right, on TV. to give me a um a uh he's gonna put a catheter right on tv so the guy comes in and uh said okay they put a little curtain up and he puts a catheter inside me i was like okay and uh and then they have
i have a zipline in the backyard and they said okay now mark uh you know we want to throw a
little party too we want you to ride the zipline holding the catheter so i have to ride and then
i come back down i ride the zipline i come back down and say, okay, can we please take this out of me?
And they said, well, you know, the doctor had to leave, but Melissa's here, and she can take it out.
Melissa, my wife, went through nursing school.
She's a junior in nursing.
So she comes out in her scrubs to take the catheter out of me, which is horribly embarrassing.
And they said, but we want to give you the full checkup. So, uh, we also want
to check your prostate. And then Dr. Frank, who's been in the show before pops up from behind the
wall, slapping on a glove to give me a plus. So embarrassing. It was mortifying and so funny.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was great. It was great. You're going to love it. Jokers is back on February
4th. Oh my God. That's so exciting. I was wondering how y'all were going to be able to do that
because I can remember an episode
where you literally took a stranger's hand
and put it in your mouth.
My mouth, yeah.
Yeah, no more.
Yeah, no more of that.
I'll sign his nice hands before I put them in my mouth.
Right?
Do people ever notice the earpiece?
I know a lot of the times you guys have, like,
the coffee cup and stuff for the microphone,
but does anyone ever notice that you're wearing an earpiece?
No, most people never comment about it
because it looks like you might have a hearing aid.
Oh, yeah.
So we actually need it.
Usually what we'll do is, like, let's say there's a focus group room or something.
We know that the mark is going to be sitting in this chair, and I'm going to be sitting in this chair.
I'll wear the earpiece in the opposite ear so they don't really see it.
Okay.
And if they do catch glimpse at it, 99% of the time people think it's the hearing aid, if they see it.
Yeah.
But they often don't, you know?
if they see it, but they often don't.
One thing I'm always wondering when I'm watching is how long of a delay is there between the guys delivering the line
and you delivering it to the person?
Because there's always that pause, but in life, are you like,
you know, if I could tell you one thing, it's, and then you say it?
Or are you just able to now hear what they're saying
as you're talking and deliver it naturally?
It is. I just talked about this like an hour ago. I was doing an interview or something or other.
And I just talked about that, that skill. It is second nature now to be having three conversations at once.
One is you're talking with the person. Two is you're having an internal conversation with yourself about whether I can do what I'm being told to do. And third, you're listening to the guys in the ear. And that's the toughest part
because they're crying laughing. It's rapid fire because we're improvisers, right? So it's
super rapid fire. So much more so than I think we slow it down on TV actually to make it easier
for the home audience to follow. But the guys and I speak secondhand to each other.
And you have three guys back there,
and they're shooting idea after idea after idea
and laughing as well.
So you're filtering all this cacophony and noise
coming through to you
at the same time you're trying to be in the conversation
and process your own internal thoughts.
So there's three different voices going around.
But I think when we first created the show, we had no clue what the show was. We didn't. The first thing we shot
was the Costco challenge. We went to, we somehow got permission to shoot in Costco and they,
no joke, at the end of the day, they threw us out of the store. No joke.
Oh my gosh.
And we go up to, even though we created the show, we still didn't really understand.
We didn't know if it was a dare show or what it was.
And then we go to Costco and we're filming
and we have the earpiece
and it was the first day with the earpiece.
I'm sorry, it was like our third day of shooting,
the first day with the earpiece though.
Because the other days we just had to go do something
daring or challenging in a store or restaurant.
Yeah.
And the third day in Costco, we wore the earpiece
and that's the day they were like, holy shit, that's the show,
is listening to in our ear what to do in the moment.
And then it all clicked and it came together.
And it was hard at first.
Now it's second nature, you know?
Can you take us back before you even sold the show?
How did it all originate?
I had been working in development for a long time.
The guys and I had tried TV many times.
We had formed our comedy troupe in 1999
and we didn't get on TV until,
well, we sold Jokers in 2010.
But in that time, we just performed a lot of live shows,
a lot of sketch comedy shows that didn't really go anywhere.
We sold two other TV shows.
We shot a pilot for Spike TV, didn't go to series.
We shot a pilot for A&E, didn't go to series.
And then along that way, I got a job in TV development and had worked for years in pitching and selling TV shows. And, um, and I got word that like, uh, hidden camera
shows were coming back and networks are looking for like a new spin on it. So the guys and I got
together, Joe and I were roommates at the time. We couldn't afford to live together apart. So we
had to, we lived together. It was Joe, me and his girlfriend, now wife living in a 700 square foot
apartment with one bathroom and one bedroom it had
a little side office we built we put a fake wall in the side office the office
had no electric in it we ran an eccentric cord from the hallway into his
bedroom which wasn't a real bedroom no windows in his room and and the three of
us had like 150 square foot each to live Wow
even the first three seasons of Joker'sers, that's what we did, right?
It was crazy.
Anyway, so the guys and I got together one night in that teeny little apartment.
And I was like, I think I can sell a hidden camera show.
What's our twist on it?
And we came up with the format of turning it upside down,
where you're not like a typical prank show where you see the reveal at the end
and people are like, you're on a hidden camera show. hidden camera show and you know gotcha we took that all away we spun it
upside down so that the joke is on on us instead of the public and there is no real the joke is
you're seeing our reactions there's there's no victim there's no no one's getting got except us
right and i think that twist on the format that there's no victim if you
will and i think our uh our chemistry just being best friends kind of won the day and we we lucked
out we we lucked out big time we never thought it'd go the distance i never thought it'd be a
family show i never thought kids would watch the show ever oh it's so, yeah, so good. So with it being a hidden camera show, obviously the people who
are on it have to sign a release to get cleared. So when you guys are like in the park, for example,
are you just approaching the people you do the bit? And then is there a producer like racing
after them to be like, Hey, so actually this is a part of a show. Can you sign this?
So actually this is a part of a show. Can you sign this?
I think there is a science behind who you go up to.
Because what's not on TV is like, if I,
if I'm in union square Manhattan and I have to go up to somebody to achieve a task or do something crazy,
I'll be standing there for 10 minutes before I go up to somebody because I'm
all we're doing. And the guys are the same way.
All we're doing is just watching people. Watching, watching, watching, watching.
Who's interesting?
You know what I mean?
And we're analyzing who is interesting.
You know, like years ago, I used to be a casting director before I worked in TV development.
So all casting is is just watching people and seeing what sparks.
I mean, you're on TV.
You have the spark.
You know that you pop for TV. And have the spark, you know, that you pop
for TV and you watch people and you just can see who pops and who's interested and who you think
is going to elicit a certain reaction and who's going to respond well, who's going to be engaging
or talkative. What's their walk like? How are they carrying themselves? Are they animated? Are
they talking to somebody on the phone? What's their physicality?
What's their look like?
You know what I mean?
There's a million things.
So we'll be just watching people, staring at people for five, ten minutes before we approach someone.
And nine times out of ten, the person you approach is good TV.
Yeah.
But then you do this whole scene and you have no idea whether they'll sign the release.
Then they walk away. And then, yes, we have production assistants that run up to them tell them that they were on
tv and then uh if they know the show they can't be on it that's you know so i can't be on impractical
jokers can i be like a joey fatone we'll find a way to get you on the show but it won't be you
won't be a mark no i want to have you guys telling me what to do. That has been a, since even before y'all's show came out, I've always
wanted, yes, I've always wanted to be on a hidden camera show and to have people make me, cause I'm
very bold and I will pretty much do anything for a dare. So to have you guys in my ear,
for a dare. So to have you guys in my ear, I'll, I will do it. She will break you for sure.
Remember the four of us that you're for us in your ear laughing and pushing.
It would be so worth it. You guys can break me one day soon. We will love to see that. So there's a lot of different like genres that you guys do on the show.
There's like you are typing an email and you're like, is this good as is?
You're reading your daughter's diary.
You're changing outfits after a seminar or something.
Is there one that's like one of your favorite types of bits to do?
The other day, we just did Cranjis and Basket basketball again, which is always a favorite.
That's where we're reading out the fake names.
Such a great bit.
I love that bit.
What were some of the names we did?
Pope Lips was a new one.
Macadamia Butt.
It's so much fun to do. I think my favorite challenge is probably,
there's a challenge we do where all four of us are in the room at the same time
with other people in a waiting room of some kind,
waiting to be called in and we've got to take turns going around and trying to
make each other laugh.
So you're in a quiet waiting room with regular people that think they're there
for some kind of BS focus group. And you've got to take a turn each,
looking at each other, trying to make each other laugh. And we call it laugh man standing.
Whoever the last person is in the room, once you left, you have to leave the room. You know,
whoever the last person in the room is, it wins. And it's cryingly funny.
I love that. So I'm a Jersey girl. I hear you're living in New Jersey these days.
I am. I'm in Princeton. Where are you from?
North Jersey, Bergen County.
All right. Very good.
Yeah. Yeah. So you grew up in Staten Island?
I grew up in Staten Island. Then I lived in Brooklyn for many years. And then I lived in Manhattan for probably 12 years and then moved to Jersey about a year ago.
I heard that you sold out the iconic Madison Square Garden.
the iconic Madison Square Garden.
Right?
That's my foot.
I got a tattoo on my foot.
MSG 11-9-2017.
That's the day we sold at Madison Square Garden.
And I'll tell you a funny story about that.
So what is it?
2020.
We started a film show in 2010.
So 11 years ago,
we did a show in Manhattan,
maybe 12 years ago,
and two people bought tickets to see us perform.
The tickets were $5 each.
The theater cost us $65 in rent, so we lost $55 on the night, and we split the loss four ways.
And that was 12 years ago.
And then 10 years later, so two years ago, a little over two years ago, we sold out Madison Square Garden. And I took the subway.
I was living in the city.
I took the subway up to the garden.
There's no faster way to get there.
So I'm in my suit to perform.
And I take the subway up to the garden.
And no one told me this, but I come out of the subway on 7th Avenue.
And I walk up the stairs and I look at the garden.
And the entire side of the garden had our faces on it.
Oh, my gosh. Wow. It the garden had our faces on it.
Oh, my gosh. Wow.
It sold out across the top of it.
And I think we were only the sixth comedian in history to ever sell the garden.
And instantly I was on, I think, Instagram live at the moment when it came out of the subway.
And I didn't know the song. I didn't know the billboard was going to be up and up and was gonna do that and it came out and i was going to meet my family who'd come
into town for the for the show and i came out and i was on social media live and immediately tears
started streaming down my face because i was taken back to that show 10 years earlier i'm getting
chills i'm getting chills with you telling me this. The hairs on my arms are sticking up because
I remember we failed so much more in life. I'm getting chills. We failed so much more than we
succeeded. And we didn't get on TV until we were 35. And to come out of the subway and to see the
gardens being sold out, I had tears in my face. I'm going to start crying. And I was going to
meet my family for dinner. And I could not stop crying for like a half face. I'm going to start crying. And I was going to meet my family for dinner and I could not,
I could not stop crying for like a half hour. I'm getting caught up now.
I couldn't stop crying for a half hour. So I caught up on the emotion of it.
Like, just like, I can't believe we get to do what we do for a living.
I can't believe we had to, you know, after not succeeding for so,
so many years, I get to make people laugh,
make my best friends laugh for a living and to see the garden and like all
these people spending their, their, you know,
their money to come out to see us perform and getting babysitters. And,
and I, it was an amazing experience.
And I went to dinner with my family and I was, it took a while to,
to recover, you know, at dinner. And thankfully I was there a little bit early,
but it was, and that's why I have a tattoo on my ankle that says Madison Square Garden 2017.
I love that. That's huge.
It was one of those moments. It's so crazy. You know, I mean,
I mean, how long has Vanderpump been on? Eight years?
Yeah. Going on nine.
Jesus. It's crazy. You know, like,
it's like any one of these moments is enough for a lifetime of memories,
lifetime of memory, any one of these moments is enough for a lifetime of memories, lifetime of memory, any one of these things.
And all of these things together at times is overwhelming how,
how amazing it is and how blessed we are truly. And,
and it is humbling for sure. You know, I don't know.
The guys and I don't take that for granted and we don't take, um, our fans for granted. The fact that you get to go through this with your best
friends, like that just makes the whole experience that much more exciting. I think two things I'm
very grateful for. One is that, um, I am actually grateful that we didn't get on TV till we were 35
because I think, I think we were through, we had already gotten through our asshole phase.
So we were already grounded guys with, you know, regular jobs,
regular lives and careers. And, and, and the guys and I,
we keep each other grounded too. And we, you know,
when one of us gets too close to the edge of being an asshole,
the other three pull them right back, you know, sternly sometimes.
And, and it works and
and it's it's very uh i'm very grateful that i get to experience this with my best friends like
like it's hard like it's hard to imagine like being a stem comedian like we tour the guys and
i write and we tour all the time and as a stem comedian i can imagine that that amount of travel
like at its height we only do like when the tour is running,
obviously we're postponed for a little bit into next year,
but when the tour is running, we now do like 70, 75 shows a year.
But, but two, three years ago,
we were doing a hundred shows a year or more, 125 shows a year.
We've slowed down a little bit,
but if you're a set of comedian on the road with that schedule alone,
I can imagine that being overwhelming, you know, in a bad way, but going
through with my best friends makes it much more, uh, much easier to deal with and a lot more fun
because we're all experiencing the same stresses together and the same highs together and the same
lows together. And you get to share it with people that know exactly what you're going through.
Yeah. Except for that one time when Q had a mime handcuffed to him.
You guys didn't get
that same experience.
No way.
No way.
I'll never do that again.
I'll never do that.
So like for literally 24 hours,
Q had a mime
handcuffed to him
for his punishment
during their show.
Oh my gosh.
Going to the bathroom
in bed.
Like this guy
did not break character.
We timed it.
We showed up.
We were getting on Amtrak
to head down to Baltimore to do a show that night.
And they were filming the show for TV and for like a special we're doing.
And as we pulled into the train station, as we drove to the train station,
there was a mine waiting outside and he slapped a handcuff on Q.
They handcuffed to him, the whole train ride down to Baltimore,
then the whole day in Baltimore,
then performing on stage in front of thousands of people at night,
then back to the hotel with Q, slept in the bed with Q overnight,
went to the bathroom with Q, got in the shower,
outside the shower, Q in his hand outside the shower as he was showering.
It was real.
The room was videotaped the whole time.
It was real.
We're going to take a quick little break.
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Speaking of Q, I heard that there's a very expensive wig that was made with his hair.
Do you still have that?
The wig is in a safe, locked away safely. The wig. Yeah. So it's a funny story. So for like
two seasons of the show, Q just decided to stop cutting his hair and his hair, unlike mine,
grows very fast. And it was like for two, three years, he just let himself go.
And I thought he was just kind of losing a grip on reality.
Literally, not so bad.
He looked so disheveled while filming.
I literally pulled Joe aside one day.
I said, Joe, we have to talk to Q.
Like, he looks like shit on TV.
Like, I don't know what's going on.
Like, you know, the first season of the show,
we didn't know if it was going to be a hit,
or we doubted it would be.
So we just kind of, we didn't have any makeup people.
We had nothing, none of us combed our hair.
I still had some hair back then.
We did not, we dressed, you know, whatever, shit clothes.
And we had no idea if it was going to work.
And you could tell, right?
We looked terrible on TV. But then you realize that the it was going to work. And you could tell, right? We looked terrible on TV.
But then you realize that the show is going to keep going
and season after season.
So we started looking better, dressing a little bit nicer,
combing our hair, things like that.
And then Q, for some reason, just stopped caring.
And I was like, something's going on in his life, right?
So I pulled Joe aside.
I'm like, we have to talk to him, buddy.
Like, he looks terrible on TV.
Unbeknownst to me, purposely, he let himself go for two and a half years.
Oh, my gosh.
Knowing it was a two and a half year punishment.
Letting his head grow out below his shoulders.
It was 12, 14 inches long.
It was down below his shoulder.
It was disgusting.
I have a picture.
Hold on, I'll show you.
With the intention of them one day,
two years later,
shaving all his hair,
mer-wig.
I can't show you what it looks like.
I mean, isn't it in your passport photo as well?
It is.
That's the best person safe,
but otherwise I'd pull it out.
And he grew his hair for two years and then they,
it was all for a punishment. Then one day they shaved it off and had a professional windmaker
put it back together and made me wear his hair for six months.
That doesn't even look like you.
I look crazy. They made me, they made me get my passport photo. My passport photo is with his hair to this day, right?
And I had to perform for six months on television with his hair in every Challenge and Punishment.
Oh, that's so good.
Then they did the opposite.
Then they did the opposite.
Then they shaved my eyebrows off and all my hair off.
And then he had a driver's license photo, which is still my license for 10 years.
With no eyebrows. Oh, my God. I have no eyebrows. and maybe get a driver's license photo, which is still my license for 10 years.
I have no eyebrows.
This is a 10 year punishment. So Q's hair is my passport
and no eyebrows is my license for 10 years.
Has there ever been a punishment, a prank, a bit, or just anything
in the last 10 years since y'all started this show where you've been
genuinely upset or mad with one of the other guys?
The eyebrows was close. That's the only time I saw, not me. I mean, I was embarrassed. The most embarrassing thing about the eyebrows, it took three months for you.
If you, in case you're wondering, it takes three months for your eyebrows.
I have microblading. So just in case that happens.
The weirdest part is like a month and a half in where it's just starting to
come back. So people on the street don't know if
I can't tell people, i can't say shit i can't say i can't
say but there's a punishment happening to me right now and i can't say that that you i'm not allowed
to say i'm being punished until april of next year but it's going on right now there's something
going on right now that's publicly known that people think
it's real and it's not and i can't say but so my eyebrows what you're not really married i i can't
say what it is but i can't find out on tv in april that something going on in my real life right now
is all punishment oh oh my gosh i can't wait but the eyebrows is like that because I couldn't say that it was for the TV show
until it aired.
So fans would like see me on the screen
and be like, what the hell is wrong with Murr?
Like they didn't know if I was strung out
or what was going on.
Like, wow, he's really letting himself go.
Something's going on.
But, and then like a week after they shaved my eyebrows,
unrelated, I was my nephew's confirmation sponsor in church.
So I had a church full of thousand
people, all who recognized me because my nephew goes to the school, right? So they all know,
oh my God, Ryan's nephew's uncle is going to be at church or Connor's uncle is going to be at
church. And so they're all expecting me to show up and have no eyebrows. It's embarrassing.
And you couldn't buy like fake eyebrows to put on? No, that would be the punishment.
Yeah, got it. As if the ferret skydiving wasn't enough.
But I have my thigh right now. Yeah. Yes. So has Joe ever had to get like a permanent
punishment like that? Because I mean, the three of you all have those tattoos.
I know we're not allowed to repeat punishments. That's the kind of
one of the rules of the show.
But then Sal had to get a
second tattoo. So that wasn't really
a punishment. That was just kind
of part of the bit.
That was, I'm sorry, a crumb
of opportunity. James Smith
became a fan of the show because of
that punishment. We met him
a few times and while filming the Joker's movie, we heard he was going to be in Brooklyn coincidentally
for a movie premiere. So we reached out to him and he said, yes. And we surprised Sal and, you know,
yes, we did violate the rule that one time, but it was worth it.
Oh, I love it. That's so good. Are you afraid you'll ever run out of punishments?
No, I think there's no... We thought we ran out of punishments and challenges in season one.
And then they picked us up for season two.
And we're like, shit, what do we do?
We've got to come up with new ideas.
And then we did.
And at the end of the season two, it sounds like there's nothing left to do.
And then we did season three and four and five.
I think there's no...
Because it comes from a real place and a real friendship, the well,
I think is endless. You know what I mean? That's honestly very similar to how our show is like the
season finale of the first season. It was like, we thought it was so explosive until the second
season finale, then the third, then the fourth, like, how are we going to top this? Because it's
our real life. It's not scripted.
And you just, when you have that real connection with people,
it just naturally happens.
And your life continues.
So there's all new things happening.
You know what I mean?
Like when Joe got married, we worked his wife into a, you know,
they worked my wife into a punishment a few weeks ago.
You know what I mean?
Like our lives are continuing to evolve.
So the show continues to evolve, you know, just like yours.
Yeah.
I have to say, I love when y'all's families get involved.
I think it is so funny.
Like when you had to show your dad how to go through your iPhone and go through your
photos.
That was embarrassing.
When he called the girl on my phone, they're like,
Murr, do you have a photo of anybody who might, you know, work in the evenings?
He's like, so how do you know my son?
She's like, why does it matter?
It sounds exactly like, do you have a number of anyone who might work in the evenings on your phone?
So I called this girl, and she's like, who is this?
He goes, it's Murr's dad.
I want to know what your intentions are with my son.
Oh, it was embarrassing. Oh, my God. and she's like who's this he goes it's mer's dad i want to know what your intentions are with my son oh embarrassing oh my god i have to say one of the best ones is probably you marrying sal's sister that was just on misery index on tuesday this week they brought in sal's
sister jenna uh that that idea started in a funny way we had to come up with a season finale
punishment right and we knew sal would mathematically lose that episode.
So we're brainstorming ideas and we had access to a ski slope, right?
And Sal cannot ski.
So I said, well, what if we put Sal on top of a ski slope with skis on and knowing that
he can't ski and at the bottom of the mountain is his sister and I and we have a giant, like
a 10 foot long piece of spaghetti between our lips,
and we're slowly eating the spaghetti like Lady and the Tramp until we get to the bottom
of the mountain to stop us from kissing.
And then we said, wait, what if instead of the spaghetti, his sister and I are going
to get married at the bottom of the mountain unless he stops us?
And then we said, wait, screw the sea slope.
Let me just marry his sister. And that's how it evolved. And it was so funny. He was mortified when it
happened. So speaking of family, my two brothers, John and Jay are huge fans of all four of you
guys. And they went to go see the tenderloins in New York. And they said the live show is
unbelievable.
I assume live is probably one of your favorite things to do, the touring and everything.
Do you guys have any plans in the foreseeable future of how you can ever do these live shows again?
I honestly think I pray and hope that we are in the home stretch of this.
I think that we are closer to the end than the beginning for sure. Even though we're at the height of everything going on,
I think we're weeks away from this vaccine coming out.
And I am hopeful that our tour goes, starts back up again.
We have the tour dates.
Oh, you do?
Oh, yeah.
We know all of our new dates.
Yeah.
And they are for next year.
So our plan is, I mean, for the second half of next year, obviously.
So from like the end of the summer onward.
But I tell you, the live tour is my favorite part of the job.
You know, when you shoot a hidden camera show, you have no idea really how it affects people.
And then when you go on tour, our live shows are not like any stand-up comedian show you'll ever see.
I think because people treat us like a band almost.
So it feels like a rock concert, you know,
with people standing up and cheering and they're wearing t-shirts with our
faces and slogans from the show on it.
And they're holding up signs and it's crazy.
It really feels like as close to being a rock star without being able to play
an instrument as possible.
And it is much more like family too.
Like our, you know, it's a lot of times comedy,
the audience is like sitting back and saying, make me laugh.
I like that at our shows because these people already have this shared communal experience of 10 years of a TV show that they've grown to love and they've
grown to love our characters, which are us in the show.
And so it feels very much like hanging out with friends, you know,
and it's the best, I think the best part of our job.
I cannot wait to be on tour again.
I can't wait to come see you guys on tour. We have to go.
You guys are where in LA?
LA, San Diego, Orange County, kind of all.
Okay. So when we, we have dates coming up,
obviously when we are back on the West coast,
we'll get you guys tickets and come on.
Yes. Oh my God. That'll be so exciting.
I can't wait to go see them.
I've been telling Sheena to bring shenanigans on the road and do a live
show. Do you have any advice for someone who does want to do a live show?
It's a no brainer for sure. That'd be great. You that'd be great.
Yeah, for sure. You book great you that'd be great yeah for sure you book you
for for show like yours i would book like theater like small theaters you know what i mean with
fan base for sure that'd be great if different guests come in you can even have a screen behind
you and have guests facetime in or zoom in uh for as surprises it'd be great yeah we were working
on it like it was the end of last year and we were thinking about doing something this year and then just with everything that happened.
Yeah.
Got a little delayed.
Yeah.
But it is still that's always been a dream of mine was to like go on some sort of tour and to do a live show like that.
So that's awesome.
Yeah.
I'll come.
I'll come or I'll be a guest one day.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
I would love that.
come. I'll come or I'll be a guest one day. Yes. Oh my gosh. I would love that. One of the punishments I wanted to ask you about too, was that when you thought you were going to be in a
bodybuilding competition, but instead walked in and saw your childhood crush from wonder years,
what was the first thing that went through your mind?
from Wonder Years, what was the first thing that went through your mind?
That was one of those punishments that you cannot possibly predict, right? Like there's no way in my mind, in my wildest imagination, I never could have anticipated that they A,
knew Danica McKellar, that she knew our show and was a fan that B they were in contact with her and she
agreed to fly to New York to punish me and you have to understand too like I'm in the room I'm
already embarrassed because I'm in the and I'm in this conference room with this bodybuilders all
around me they've piped in this the sound system in the room there's sounds of a real bodybuilding
competition going on so there's no part of me doubted that there wasn't a body, because that punishment alone, me having to
compete in a bodybuilding competition is embarrassing. Like it's mortifying. Like,
look at me. I shouldn't be naked in the shower. You know what I'm saying? So, so I'm already
ridiculously embarrassed. My nipples are out. I'm greased up. I'm wearing an American flag speedo, right? And I'm a twig. My body looks like a baby carrot, you know? So I'm already embarrassed. And they go to walk in the room. And a split second before I opened the door to the room, part of me wondered, I was like, what if this is a reversal and there's no competition going on in
this room? And because even though I heard it on the speakers, I didn't see it. And for a split
second, I was like, what if they're fucking with me? And there's some kind of reversal that I don't
know about, but never in my wildest dreams could I imagine it was her, you know, open the door and
I see her and she looks identical to when she was a kid and as beautiful, right, as my memory of Danica McKellar.
Right. When we were kids, she looks she's timeless. Right.
And she's in this spectacular dress and she's sitting there and it's like dark and dim.
It looks like an interview for 2020. Right. And you see, you see, I immediately turned around and I put my head against the door.
I was mortified at what I looked like and seeing her.
Second, the second emotion I had was absolute pride in my friends for coming up with what I thought was the most spectacularly brilliant reverse twist of all time that you couldn't see coming.
I was like, these, these sons of
bitches got me. Like I was so proud of them. It's a weird feeling to be so proud and so embarrassed
at the same time. You know, the other moment like that was there was a punishment in like season two
where I had to pose nude in front of an art class that was drawing my body. And I'm standing,
I'm standing on this podium and it's already mortifying.
And the students all around me
and I'm posing, doing different things.
And then the guys hit a button
and the podium I'm on starts rotating.
And I lost it.
I crumbled because I didn't see it coming.
I didn't realize that I'd be like a pig being roasted.
It was so embarrassing.
And just knowing what the students were saying,
like seeing my butt just slowly turn. I knew what it looked like. And I was just,
it was so embarrassing. So embarrassing. Do you guys have like a running tally of
how many times you've lost? Yeah, the internet does. Okay. We don't. I was wondering who the biggest loser is.
I feel like every episode, like, it's always Sal.
Like, the most of the time, it seems like it's Sal.
It's Sal and I neck and neck.
Yeah.
I think he has, like, 60.
Well, I don't know about the new episodes,
but I think he has, like, maybe 70-something.
We have, what, 200 and maybe 240 episodes
or 250 episodes or so.
He has, like, 70 or or 80 i'm right on his tail
like 65 70 somewhere out there and then then q then joe it's impossible right i know i'm like
i'm trying to think of joe's punishments and i think the only two i can think of are
one where he was like painted into like a wall and then like a sumo wrestler yeah i can't think of any other ones
captain fat belly okay he's like yo suck it oh yeah and uh he has one who is a genie where he
crushed oh that one yes that was so good yeah oh i love it do you talk to those guys on a regular
basis or are you like when it's your off time or you're just like I need a break from you guys you know I don't know how it is uh on your show but uh I I see these guys
like nine days a week oh wow yeah but for business but also we're best friends if I don't talk to
them who the hell am I talking to if I'm gonna talk to them I mean I talk to my wife of course
but other than that you know who else would I talk to have you, of course, but other than that, you know, who else would I talk to?
Have you ever or are you guys ever allowed to say no to a punishment and or like alter it?
Has that ever happened?
No.
The closest we ever came to saying no and the guys had a backup plan in case it didn't work out.
The closest we came was skydiving when they threw me out of an airplane because I used to be terrified of heights,
but there's no way I'm terrified of them anymore.
After skydiving and the movie where I had to fly outside of an airplane,
there's no way, I'm fine.
I'm doing heights now.
But when I legitimately crumbled on set,
I ran off set,
locked myself in the bathroom for a half hour
and I sent goodbye texts to family.
I was terrified.
Oh, my gosh.
And eventually, you know, Joe comes in the bathroom eventually,
and he goes, if you don't want to do it, we know this is right on the edge.
If you don't want to do it, Sal's willing to do it as a backup plan.
Even though he had done skydiving before,
I'm sure he could still perform if he needed to and save the punishment.
And and I thought about it and I was like, I knew it should be me comedically.
You know, I knew I would react the way I did when I was on the plane.
I knew I didn't realize I would scream so high pitched as I did, but I knew I would react big.
so high pitched as I did.
But I knew I would react big.
And I knew that comedically it would be the fun.
It's the funniest choice for me to get thrown out of the airplane,
not Sal.
And so I, I went with the comedic choice over the,
the,
the good choice for my life.
Yeah.
And,
and I did the same thing with the movie,
the movie too.
That was right on the edge.
We filmed the punishment for the movie on the last day of filming in case I
died doing it, they would have the movie done.
Oh, wow.
And the only way to get insurance for the movie is if we did it on the last day.
And for that specific day, they had to take a $15 million life insurance policy out on me.
In case I died doing it.
Wow.
And I thought about that one for a long time, too.
And I did it because I knew that it would be the best comedic.
And you know,
yes.
So I think that was the closest we came,
but no,
you,
other than that,
that's it.
You do it.
A lot of times that we don't know how the punishments are going to end.
We have no idea.
There was a punishment where I had to pull cigarettes out of people's
mouths.
I remember that.
Just go pull cigarettes out of people's mouths. I remember that. Murr, just go pull cigarettes out of people's mouths.
I'm like, okay, how does the punishment end?
We have no idea.
Or there's another one where I had to be selling concessions at like a racetrack and I wasn't
allowed to give people their change back.
How does the punishment end?
We have no idea.
We have no idea.
Or Sal, there was a punishment where Sal was a delivery guy and he
had to tell people that their tip was shit, that it wasn't a tip. Like those are the punishments
where you have no idea how it's going to end. You just go in and see what happens. You know,
has anyone ever got physical with you guys in one of those moments?
It only happened to me once, but we knew it was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen.
I was not surprised by it.
We were, the guys told me to hold a very large bra
in front of this large man
and tell him that he was the same size as my wife.
Could I check out if this is the right size bra for her?
And he was a big guy.
He was like 300 plus pounds.
And he didn't take it well. And he whacked big guy. He's like 300 plus pounds. And, uh, he didn't take it well.
And he whacked me in the face with his cell phone. I had a, uh, you know, a black eye from it, but,
um, but I knew he was going to do it. I knew he was going to hit me. Uh, and I said to the guys
off camera, I said, guys, he's going to pop if we do this, but, uh, we did, they made me do it.
But I wonder why he used his phone and not his fist.
Like, is the punishment any less?
Yeah, thank God for you.
If he used his fist, I would not be here right now.
Look at us.
Look at us.
We have very mushy faces.
Speaking of that, I mean, you guys have persevered so much.
I mean, you said it took years and years before the show was even came to fruition and picked up. What kept you going all of those years?
I think each other, I think at different times, different one, a different one of us would rise
up to keep it going, keep the motivation going. And I think ultimately I always wanted to do this.
I always dreamed of being on TV.
I always dreamed of doing comedy with my, with these guys,
with my best friends.
And I always thought that it was something universally relatable about our
friendship, you know? And, and honestly, I never really,
I never thought it would go the path it did.
I never thought it would take as long as it did to get on TV.
I never thought it would go this way as it did to get on TV. I never thought it would go this way and we'd fail, do this, this, this.
But I always felt that my three friends were the funniest guys I know.
Like, I think Sal is brilliantly funny.
I think Joe is classically funny in a Three Stooges kind of way.
And Q is a brilliant writer.
And I'm like, if my three friends make me cry laughing, I had like my whole life, I was
like, I have to imagine that someday we'll break through and people will see that, that if they
make me cry laughing, they probably will make them cry laughing. You know what I mean? No,
no claims about my own ability. I have no idea if I have any talents or skills whatsoever,
but I'm like, if these three guys are the funniest guys ever met my entire life, I have to think that they're going to make other people laugh too.
So I think just the belief that there was something,
if they're the three funniest guys I know,
I have to think that other people would think the same thing.
And I think we kept each other going and until we found the right idea.
I think that's a lot of it too. You know, we,
the other shows we had sold weren't the right idea. We finally,
Jokers was the right idea because it was a combination of the right idea,
the right time, the right network.
And did you know it when it happened?
You knew like that was one that was going to hit.
Yeah. It was special almost immediately because it was just us.
It was, it was our friendship.
It was a show that put our friendship on display and I always felt that our
friendship was special and relatable.
And I thought that, and our style was like this,
our style for years with the Tenderloins doing improv and sketch comedy was
always this kind of like very fun,
positive kind of spin on things and almost hyper real surreal kind of comedy
and very positive and our show i
think to this day remains an island of positivity in what is a very can be a very especially nowadays
in a very hostile world you know where people are go at each other for everything i think our show
remains an island of positivity it's kind of the the show, I think, that you turn on just,
and the whole family agrees on, the kids, the parents, the grandparents.
It's a show they all agree on and they all watch.
And I never thought it was at a beginning and it has morphed into that.
And that makes me really happy.
I think that we've created a show, I think, I hope,
that makes people's lives just a little bit better.
100%. That's what I was saying, like, at the beginning of the pandemic, you know, it's like there was just so much uncertainty in the world and everyone's at home and you're going crazy.
And that's when I'm like, I've always enjoyed watching y'all's show, but just even that much more at home every night, it was like, oh, it's 4 p.m. or whatever time like the marathon starts up until 10 p.m. It was like we had something to look forward to and laugh at every
single day. I got my parents into watching it. Like my little sister and her boyfriend are obsessed.
And yeah, it's just it's a great show that you can watch with anyone at any time. And you're
guaranteed to laugh if I'm in a bad mood, if I'm sad, I just put on an
episode, even if I've seen it 10 times and you just, you can't not laugh. And you can watch us
get older, fatter, less hair. Decade of television. Recently I had to literally change the channel
because I just had this, um, I had a little tumor on my head
removed and I had stitches and my head was throbbing so much and I was just in such a mood
and I'm like I'm just gonna watch impractical jokers but then the laughing was hurting the
stitches and I was like I can't watch this actually because it's making it hurt so years
ago we we filmed we were punishing Q.
It was a sex ed talk. He thought he had to go in and teach sex ed to a classroom full of kids.
And we brought him over.
We showed him the classroom and showed him if there was like 30 kids in the room.
Right.
And we take him in the back and we put his mic on.
And while he was in the back, we swapped out all the kids for only his parents.
So we went back into the room, opened the door,
and his mom and dad were there. And he had to teach sex ed to his own parents, right?
That was three days after I had my appendix removed. And I was in a lot of pain still.
And I was on set because we couldn't lose the day. And I had, it was the most painful punishment
ever. I was like you, I had tears running down of my face watching him try to teach sex ed to his own parents. Oh, that's so good. Thank you seriously so much for doing this
today. This is by far my, I'm not just saying this, this is legitimately my favorite interview
I've ever done. It's, I just said, I feel like I'm like a dinner
party guest right now. Just having you here on a laptop is so cool. I hope to meet you in person.
I'm sure we will. Next time we're out West Coast, come on by or next time we're out filming in the
West Coast, come on by set. Oh, that would be such a dream. Oh my gosh, everyone to be sure to
check out Mer's books.
If you haven't already seen the Impractical Jokers movie,
definitely watch it.
You can get it on Apple Movies.
It's so hilarious.
We need to watch it again.
Yes.
And yeah, congrats again on getting married
and all of your successes.
And where can everyone find you?
You can find me anywhere on social media, of course.
Instagram at TheRealMurror.
Everywhere else at James S. Murray.
You know, I'm easy to find, you know.
Just a little bit.
Well, thank you again so much for being here.
This has been my favorite episode I have ever recorded.
So I think that just listening isn't even enough. Like y'all have to see what we
just saw on this zoom. So Monday, I'm going to be releasing a ton of bonus footage on my YouTube
of our zoom podcast. So you guys can see exactly what Jamie and I have been cracking up watching. It's so good. Thank you guys
so much for listening and we'll be back next week. Bye.
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