Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - It’s Our Anniversary!

Episode Date: October 2, 2020

It’s Scheana and Brock’s one year anniversary, congrats to the happy couple! They stop by the studio for some Scheananigans before their dinner reservation at SUR. Jamie Lynne also stops ...by and the three debate a juicy topic that’s been coming up a lot lately. Cheers! Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA. Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. is shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, everyone? Getting back into some shenanigans in the studio. We are up in LA for the day. It is Brock and I's anniversary. And also joining us because I feel like I haven't seen you in so long. So long. Jamie Lynn, how are you? Hi, everyone. I'm great. I'm happy to be here on your anniversary because I feel like I'm the third part of your little relationship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We've been here since the beginning. Now, a couple months ago, I would have said this is a thruple, but we've all known where thruple conversations go. So, no. I'm just the third wheel. The third wheel. I'm the official third wheel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We do dinners. We hang out. We've got a few third wheels in our group, in Shannon's group. We do. Who else is on my territory here? Max. You got, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Oddly Max. Yeah, Max is a good third wheeler. He's taking us on some good dates. Yeah. Is that more like San Diego situations? Yeah, probably. Usually, yeah. So I'll be your like LA side piece.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, perfect. Your plus one comes along. Brett comes along sometimes. He's your like plus one. Yeah. That's true too. But tonight for dinner, like, L.A. side piece. Yeah, perfect. Your plus one comes along. Break comes along sometimes. You're, like, plus one. Yeah. That's true, too. But tonight for dinner, don't worry. We have Nima's coming to dinner with us, Raquel.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I don't know if James is able to make it, and then Jesse Montana. Fun. And Sir is open again. Yes, I know. I'm so excited. We're going to eat at Sir tonight. I haven't—this is the longest, I said, in 10 years I haven't had a Sir meal. And I'm really excited.
Starting point is 00:01:44 What are you gonna get definitely getting pasta but i think what i'm gonna do is mix because you know what sir it's all about the pasta i'm gonna mix my two favorite pastas together and do the angel hair which is the one the fight was actually about but the sicilian pasta has blackened chicken so sorry jamie i'm gonna add the blackened chicken to the angel hair pasta and it's gonna be so good. I don't even want to ask how the pasta thing started, but what am I missing here?
Starting point is 00:02:11 Just put it in a quick one for me. So, everyone thinks that pasta is a code word for drugs. Which it's not. But they just couldn't wrap their head around how Lala and James and Raquel, like, there was this huge fight over eating someone's pasta. They're like, so she did her drug, like her drugs.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, no, no, no. She really ate Raquel's pasta. Like Raquel got up to, I don't know, take photos, go to the bathroom or whatever. And when she came back, Lala ate her pasta. So it was like this whole thing where James and Lala are fighting and he's like,
Starting point is 00:02:46 it's not about the pasta. It was more like the principle of it. Like, do you remember, honey, when you left the fridge unplugged and the pizza and everything in there wasn't frozen? And I was like, it's not about the pizza. Prime example.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It was not about the pizza. It was the fact that you left. And so he was like, it's not about the pasta. It's what you did. And it was just the whole thing. That's funny funny. Nobody believes it's the pasta. I'm like, but have you had the angel hair? Good reference. I've heard that one a few times. Yes. So I'm excited to go to Sir tonight and eat some pasta. I don't know what I'm
Starting point is 00:03:18 going to get. It's been a while. One salad I can modify to make it vegan. That arugula one. You just get it without the cheese. Sounds exciting. Yes. So we're kind of doing a drinking and podcasting episode. Jamie's doing the drinking, and Brock and I are doing the podcasting. I'm just here for the ride. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Just watching you guys. She's throttling out as Fonis. So I did ask for some of your questions. I felt like, like you know we got a lot of the same questions as we did last week and if you haven't listened to last week's episode go and listen to that and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about a lot a lot of asking about how Brittany and Jax's gender reveal was if we're getting engaged married babies all the same things people just really want to know that we answered most of this on our last podcast episode so i'm going to send you back to listen to that if you had any questions about marriage or babies and i'm going to keep
Starting point is 00:04:16 reading through these as we go on with the discussion to see if any more pop up that baby related yeah we're gonna babies. And you know what? When it's that time, you guys will know it. I'm an open book. I talk about everything. It's not like I like keeping things in, you know, the good, the bad, all of it. I talk about it. So when it's baby time, when I get engaged, trust me, you guys will know.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Trust me, you guys will know about the engagement. Yes. So you sent me a post, which I thought was really awesome. That girl who was like, stop asking me when am I having babies? Oh my gosh. It was really good. Are you able to pull that out real quick? Sorry to just bring that on.
Starting point is 00:04:54 No, I've been wanting to post it. I was just waiting until after our anniversary because I didn't want it to get lost with everything else that I've been posting. But it was just worded really well. Because, you know, there's a lot of women who struggle with infertility who maybe have been trying for years to get pregnant and can't. And I even noticed this at the gender reveal.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It's like, because Katie's part of their pregnancy pact and people were like, well, Katie, when are you having babies? What if they've been trying? Like, you don't know. You don't know what someone's struggles are you don't know it's never intended as like a mean question it's people trying to show interest in your life but yeah i think people just don't realize that in certain situations it can be really hurtful to the person you're asking so she said to some it's just a simple question you ask your friends
Starting point is 00:05:42 and family but to others it's so much more than that it's feelings of hurt frustration fear anxiety and honestly it just makes most people uncomfortable when you ask them there are many reasons why they may not be pregnant did you know one in four pregnancies end in miscarriage like obviously we all know that did you know one in eight couples struggle with infertility it may not be their time yet some women don't want to have babies like you know tom, Tom and Ariana have been very vocal that they don't want kids. And then people still are constantly asking Ariana, well, now that all your friends are pregnant, it's like, they aren't even her friends. You know, like just because we're on a television show together, we're not all friends. We are co-stars. We are co-workers. Ariana and I, I think more than anyone on the show, have the biggest group of friends
Starting point is 00:06:26 outside of the show. Whereas, you know, some of the other girls are more clicky and their closest friends are on the show. But other than Ariana and I, all of our college and high school friends aren't on, like you, Jamie, you're literally the closest person in my life. And you try to stand up for me a couple of seasons ago wait that's what going that one oh my god and you know what i bet i could find is the text that schwartz sent me that night we should bring that back we should read it it was a good one okay wait let's tell rock what happened okay things that schwartz said we just bounced around we went from a deep message to a white hold up. So let's finish
Starting point is 00:07:05 the deep message real quick because I think it's a very appropriate time. Well, it's what I'm saying. It's just not their time yet. And some women don't want to have babies. That was the majority of it. And then she just ended it with so coming from someone who has experienced a miscarriage and is struggling with infertility, please stop asking the damn question.
Starting point is 00:07:21 If you're concerned, wonder if your family member or friend is going to be starting a family, think about them. And if you're the praying type, lift them up. So that was pretty much it. She was just stating facts and just saying, you know, like you don't know what someone's going through. You don't know if they want kids.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You don't know. I think that's a good- So stop asking. That's it. That's like a lesson just with everything though. You don't know what anyone's going through. So even though you might think you're having a good day or a bad day, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:44 you don't need to wreck somebody else's day because they might be having a worse day. So I think that's it. You gotta take that through life though, babe. Yes. If we can go on a slight tangent before we talk about that, whatever season that was. Drinking and podcasting episodes are all over. So go for it. So I read something that was really, really poignant.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And it was like, there was this man on the subway in New York and he had two children with him and the children were acting up and just being like really, really unruly. And this one person was super annoyed with the kids. And they were like, can you control your children? And just judging him and thinking he's a terrible father and he doesn't care, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm going to say? I will piggyback on this story. And he goes, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We just left their mother's funeral. Can you imagine? So it's like, that's just, you don't ever know what people are going through. There was a time that I was an asshole
Starting point is 00:08:34 and tweeted from an airplane, like a joke. And I was like, God, I wish there were like adult only airplanes. Like this kid screaming in the back,
Starting point is 00:08:40 like blah, blah, blah. And then so many people are like, what if that child has Asperger's? What if that child this if that child that and I was like okay solid point you put me in my place in another situation this was not a crying baby this was literally a toddler having a fit I was like just say you'll take him to Disneyland oh my god this whole plane like just say yes you can go to Disneyland deal with it when you're not on the plane but I was like in
Starting point is 00:09:04 any it just made me think so differently and this was like four years ago every other time I've been on an airplane or in a situation when there's a kid having a fit or something I'm like they could have some type of disorder where you don't know and sometimes it takes you know being called out to realize that because I never saw it that way. And I was like, I didn't even know what Asperger's was. And then I looked it up and I was like, you don't know. You never know. And yeah, and it's like just having those thoughts as being human, you know, just like, oh, my gosh, this is so annoying.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I want it to stop. It takes that extra step to actually be like, you know what? We don't actually know what that parent is going through. Yeah. What the actual situation is. And being upset isn't going to make the kids stop crying no so you have to change your attitude you know yeah you guys are so like aware of all substances of all situations until it comes to your guys selves this is ridiculous sometimes you're so aware of like humbling and like oh all forgiven but then when you go into like your personal relationships, you guys, the arguments are so funny to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Well, no. Prove it for us. Listen to that. I disagree. Because when we're talking about our personal situations, we know those people. It's not like you don't know what's going on with that person. And sometimes there aren't two sides.
Starting point is 00:10:19 There's the right side and your wrong side. Okay? All right. So we don't know. Whatever. Let's not go there i've agreed to not let's talk about this we're moving on so to go back to season six yes tell me this was a night it was peter and carter i think because their birthdays are around each other it's like in june
Starting point is 00:10:40 which is i know because i just found this text very easily. You sent it? I screenshot it, and sometimes I'll just send it to Schwartz on a rainy day. I'm like, remember? Go back Thursday. So... Remember when you had the tear? Is that what it was for? So I was really upset at this party.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I went with Lala, ironically, and her and Katie, that was like the day they like made up and became friends and I was really upset because I was like thinking that Katie was just doing this because she got a lot of shit for how she treated her the season before Ariana and I have been her real friend and Katie's only acting this way because she wants people to like her and so I was like calling bullshit i'm like this is fake like da da da da and then like no one had my back i'm like calling katie like crocodile tears this and that then schwartz for the first time ever decides to stand up for his wife against me because he's always taking my side in a fight
Starting point is 00:11:38 which i don't agree with oh wait this is bootleg kardashian yes so Schwartz comes in, he starts yelling at me. He's like, you're a bootleg Kardashian. And I was like, I'll take it. I mean, yes, I caught, but currently right now I will copy any hairstyle or style they do. Cause I'm like, it looks good on them. We got a similar vibe. It might look good on me. You know, when he crossed the line, cause that was, that's like kind of a compliment. I'm like, okay, cool. Yeah. Then he said, the only thing interesting about you, Sheena, is your divorce. Wait, I'll read the, that was in the text. Okay. So as Schwartz and Katie and Lala are all like screaming my head off and you know, it's always on this show, which I think you're coming to learn. It's me against everyone else. And so no one ever has my back. No one ever stands up for me. I fight my own battles and I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:12:25 But that night, I had Jersey with me and Jamie like butts in and starts going off on Lala and then production was like, uh-uh, like, excuse, like, you're not mic'd.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like, we're not picking up your audio. Like, it was like, get the woman mic'd, bro. I didn't even know. I thought they were done filming at that point and I didn't even come with you. Kristen had invited me
Starting point is 00:12:44 and then, oh my God, what are you doing here? And I was so happy she was there because I was like oh, support, friend. And Lala has a nerve to say to me, stand down. And I'm like, you stand down. And then
Starting point is 00:12:57 Katie comes over, who the fuck are you? And I'm like, who are you? It was a whole thing. But so then that night, as if calling me a bootleg Kardashian wasn't enough, Tom Schwartz sends me a text. He goes, Sheena, you have a load of fucking audacity to call anyone fake on this show. You are a veneer of a human.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Fake on the inside, fake on the outside. Lost in your pursuit of fame. If you didn't smoke weed and make bomb-ass enchiladas, you would completely suck altogether. That's such a mad... That's such like... I don't know Tom that well, but like, when I'm looking at him, weed and make bomb ass enchiladas, you would completely suck all together. That's such a mad, that's such like, I don't know Tom that well, but like, if I'm looking at him, that's such like a Tom like, insult, abusive text.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But then he goes, yeah, I'm a makeout slut and I'm sloppy, but I'm real. You're a vapid famed vampire thirsty for social media attention and validation. The human selfie. He goes, most real thing you'll ever read oh also you do love your family a lot so that's awesome nails gotta go though he just like kept sending
Starting point is 00:13:52 me more texts that's the best bottling that up since he's like years right and then he keeps going then he sends me another one sorry to be a dick and then he sends me another one it just has to happen sometimes i need a wake-up call from being a sloppy drunk douche you need it from being a self-image obsessed social media monster well done smoke a joint reread this let it sink in thank me later i was like that's fine but sometimes like i just think it's so funny like it's like the only message i've ever gotten that's like really like funny and like trying to be hurtful, but like funny. Yeah. So sometimes I'll just like randomly send it to him. I'm like TBT.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But that makes sense. You should post that. Yeah. On a throwback Thursday. Right? That's a good one. I mean, don't you post some people's messages everywhere. Our messages are posted on national television.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Oh yeah, but they're edited, remember? I mean, obviously like in good fun, not because she's trying to be like, fuck you. Yeah, no, this was funny. I've always seen him and he's always just kind,
Starting point is 00:14:51 nice, always. Yeah. So that's pretty funny. He's like the one person I've never really officially met. It's really bizarre. I've never like
Starting point is 00:14:58 officially met him. I've met him, but like met him. That's about it. Yeah, you guys have never really hung out. We've never really hung out, really, because it's always
Starting point is 00:15:04 just like, just different cliques, different groups, which is. That's about it. Yeah, you guys have never really hung out. We haven't really hung out, really, because it's always just, like, just different cliques, different groups, which is fine. I get it. But I just... I'm new to the whole situation. I thought that message was so funny that I've saved it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Because that's the only time Schwartz and I have ever even, like, had, like, a disagreement. We've always been super cool. Okay, Jess underscore Rack wants to know, what was the surprise for your anniversary Brock teased about on the last podcast? So it was supposed to be a hot air balloon, but we weren't able to do that this week.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So that's what it was that he was teasing. I thought I nailed it. I thought it was like, you know what? You've got this, Brockie, in the bag. And you did. And if it would have worked out, that would have been awesome. It's on my bucket list. We weren't able to.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Weren't the winds too high or something? Some of it. Yeah. So they just said that, you know, we weren't able to do that this week. So instead, they did a picnic. Well, not they. Brock did a picnic that he coordinated through the hotel on the golf course. Like literally in the middle of.
Starting point is 00:16:00 On the one. On the end of the line. It was in the valley. We were trying to go either in the valley or up on 1314. That overlooks the whole. So high or low. You can go at the top On the end of the line And it was in the valley We were trying to go Either in the valley Or up on 1314 That overlooks the whole So high or low You can go at the top Or the bottom
Starting point is 00:16:08 We couldn't get up to the 1314 With like meal Or food and all that So they said We have to stay on the one So But it was beautiful It was sunset
Starting point is 00:16:16 And I've never had a picnic Yeah It was just the cutest thing It's like You had your very own Bachelor one-on-one date I really did I still haven't watched that show, so no. She had a date with Brock.
Starting point is 00:16:28 We're watching it in a couple weeks now because Jason... My mate Jason was on it. Obviously, this Bachelorette was a bit of a crazy one, right? I don't think she was a bit of a crazy one. I think she found love. She found love in three weeks. Is that a thing? Well, I'm so... You want to talk about that? Well, no. We developed
Starting point is 00:16:43 our relationship. I didn't leave like... You didn't leave an opportunity of a lifetime to go not opportunity of a lifetime but i stopped talking to someone else because i knew honey she is the bachelorette so she left the show right that's still a big commitment until we see it because on one hand i'm like you know what that's like a boss move but let's see how it plays out before I. I'm excited for it. First of all because I watched Claire on Juan Pablo season. She was such a boss at the end when she
Starting point is 00:17:14 like he said he didn't want to like be with her and I was like I don't want to be with you. Whatever it was I just remember seeing that and she was a total bitch and it was like yeah that's what he deserved because he was just like ugh and like with Andy. Because he was just like, ugh. And like with Andy. I've heard bad things about her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I haven't seen that since. So I remember loving her at the finale that season. And then she was on Winter Games. And she started dating someone. And then that didn't work out. And she's, I think, in her late 30s. You know? Like she just, she really wants love.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And she's there, as they say, for the right reasons. And that's what I think, in her late 30s, you know? Like, she just, she really wants love, and she's there, as they say, for the right reasons. Yeah, okay. And that's what I love, because all these 21-year-old girls coming on being like, I want to get married and have kids. It's like, you're 21. And honestly, leaving early proves that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Well done. Why is she going to stay around? I'll keep my mouth shut. Because that's also, that's not fair to the other guys who are then developing stronger feelings as she's going on more dates with them when her heart's already somewhere else you know what i'm saying okay well done and i do think you can fall in love in three weeks and i do think in that situation it's like covid you know in quarantine it's a fast forward damn right it's a fast forward
Starting point is 00:18:19 someone commented on our picture today and they're like it it's only been a year. I'm like, I know, right? We've done a lot. It feels like it's been a lot longer. Okay. A lot of the same questions, y'all. I want like interesting, like. Best days we had so far apart from picnic. Picnic, going back on picnic just for everyone out there.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Buy yourself a picnic basket. There's one that has like the cooler on the left and you can put cold food insulation on the left-hand side of the basket. It opens up. You got all your cutlery in there. That's like, I'm going to go, I just ordered one. I'm going to order one. I didn't just order. I will order one on Amazon and keep that in the bag because that's a good little trick. Like it's better than going to a restaurant and it was enjoyable. Plus a little fun fact, if you buy flowers the day before, then you can recycle the same flowers and use the petals and throw them everywhere, which is a little two for one offer there. I also didn't buy those flowers either.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But babe, you've got 12 in front of you right now. I got to the hotel first. He was at work and then he meets me at the hotel and he's like, do you see the flowers I got you? And I go, the card said they were from Anne. Yeah, she had said it. She's like, Brock, why didn't you tell me I would have put your name
Starting point is 00:19:25 on the card that's so good but and I also have some beautiful flowers here that Naro got me at Action Park Media
Starting point is 00:19:32 so thank you for my flowers what we got on there honey what questions you got well wait I can answer what our best date was I think it was
Starting point is 00:19:39 when we all went to to Born and Raised we had that outdoor dining experience. And they came over to our table and they made the drinks. Yeah. That was a really nice date. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I appreciate that one. Yeah. That was a good one. There was one. Klepto underscore Kylie. Do you like to steal things? Of all of your trips together, what place was your favorite? I mean, hands down, Bali.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, Bali was good. I enjoyed going to New York with you. New York was fun. We did. Brett is there right now, and I was just like looking at his story, and I'm like, I really miss New York. We'll contemplate moving out there. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:20 For a whole minute. Because we were thinking he was going to play rugby out there. But then I've got my job here. I don't know if I can do it. You know? You always have to think of all three of us. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I was like, what are you talking about? My job. I'm out. I thought you were coming to San Diego with us. And then you go and renew your lease in Irvine. Yeah. You could have come to ST. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Okay. Gosh. Kids, kids. Married, married. I asked a question on my Instagram. And I got an interesting response we started talking about it earlier and they got cut off should we yeah let's go dive into that also helen marie g003 wants to know how do you drink and not wake up hungover drink better
Starting point is 00:20:55 alcohol i think i don't know i used to get hungover when i drank cheap alcohol did you and now like if it's like tito's or casamigos like i've i haven't been hung over in years so i just thought that was some weird genetic mutation that you had mexican and russian i'm not but also i don't mix sugary things so if you drink wine champagne sugary shots that's my answer anyways jamie Jamie, back to our discussion. I have a philosophical question because I don't know the answer. So let's debate it. So my question was, let's say you're in a relationship or you have a former friend or whatever, and you have a falling out, you break up, you're no longer speaking to that person anymore. People say,
Starting point is 00:21:41 hey, what happened to so-and-so? Or what happened? Why? I don't see you guys together anymore. anymore. People say, hey, what happened to so-and-so? Or what happened? Why I don't see you guys together anymore? Now, do you answer honestly? Or let's say that person did something very hurtful to you. Do you protect that person and just say, oh, it didn't work out and just blaze over it and not be honest? So I can see both sides of this. No, see, I think it depends who's asking the question and how much information they deserve. That's a fair. Oh, you've had time to think about that answer. No, I just, that's what I think.
Starting point is 00:22:09 If it's a fan asking me what happened with you and so-and-so, my answer would probably be different than if Brett or Jamie asked me, so what really happened with so-and-so? That's totally fair. Let's say it's, and this probably won't apply to most people, but let's say it's on a podcast. It's your podcast, right? And you have to be honest honest you're expected to be open and honest and that's why people are listening how deep do you get without like what's the line where it's like you could either be talking trash about someone or you could just be being honest about something that happened in your past no but that's the frustrating thing is because when i am just telling my truth
Starting point is 00:22:43 and telling my side of things then other people take it the wrong way. But this is just my perspective. And I'm telling you what I remember and how things happened. Right. And I'm almost like, well, if you don't want to know the truth, then don't listen or don't ask. Yeah, I want to be honest. But on the other hand, I don't want it to seem like, you know, I'm talking about someone who's not there to possibly defend themselves or to trash them. But I also want want to be honest yeah i feel like kind of split the difference where you can still be honest and say what happened but you don't have to give the whole truth like you don't have to give all the nitty-gritty details you can kind of just give highlights which is i think what i do on my podcast is I give briefs of a story and not all the nitty gritty details
Starting point is 00:23:25 because I'm a very detail oriented person when it comes to telling a story and I try publicly to not do that I try to speak more in sound bites like I pretend like I'm in my interviews on the show and I'm like just get through the highlighted points the most important things you don't need to leave all the gibberish in. Yeah, but what happens if someone misconstrues what you're trying to say because you're trying to get the highlight points and you know that that goes down that route and you intentively say
Starting point is 00:23:54 it like that so you can play the victim at the same time. Not play the victim. I would usually clear it up after, I think. I think this is nearly as bad as talking about politics. I think you just give the person, even if they don't deserve it, be the bigger, bigger person. And even if you don't get shone the light on for you to be that bigger person or no one accepts that or no one really understands it because you just turned around and said, no, that's great. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Move on. Even though you can go ahead, I've got plenty of things to say about somebody. What's the point? See, but I just like, there's like that brock will just like straight up lie about and i understand like not to me but like his friends will ask him a question like something about like me personally or whatever and he'll just lie and i'm like well you didn't have to lie you could have told him the truth it's okay he's like well they don't deserve to know that and i'm like i can't do that and i mean if you take that same scenario put it in a courtroom if you lie's illegal. You have to tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth, right? So take that outside of the courtroom,
Starting point is 00:24:50 put it in society, and now all of a sudden telling the truth is you're taking the low road? Well, that's why this is nearly as bad as talking about politics, because you can't have a situation, because if you, okay, I got to tell the truth, tell the truth, but that doesn't happen. And you know, if you tell the truth, it's going to hurt somebody's feelings. And so you just leave it. Whose feelings is it hurting? But maybe they shouldn't have done something that if it's told, it would hurt their feelings.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So then shouldn't that person? I think the moral of the story is just be a better person. Just talk to the person. I think instead of addressing it to the public, be like, hey, look, go into the other person, be like, look, this person's talking about this and address them with that one person. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:25:24 In between that, if people want to talk anything behind it, let them talk. As long as you know, if I'm on the court and the judge asked me the question and I can look that person in the eye and be very honest with that person, then who cares what the scribe's writing down? Like that could be, that could be interpreted anyway. I think you should always address it with that person first. Let's say you've tried, you've made multiple attempts to address it with the person. It went nowhere or whatever. Then people start asking you what happened. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I think, you know, at some point, if you want to tell your truth, you can. I think at that point, you just move on because it's not worth it. Sometimes. Yeah, for sure. I mean, obviously, I've been in this situation many times. I feel like people may have really noticed that this is a conversation about that. Yeah, for sure. And I think what can be frustrating is especially in my line of work where you know we all have public platforms we speak on sometimes
Starting point is 00:26:12 we put something out there and we say something and then the person we're talking about reacts in a completely negative way and goes off the deep end and i'm like yo if you felt that way why don't you just call me and ask me and be like, I didn't know you were feeling this way. I didn't know this upset you. Like, sorry, can we talk it out? But instead in our group and in this world, it's like, oh, well you said something public. So I'm going to say something public. And then it never gets resolved. And it's like, I was just telling a story about something that hurt me but now you want to hurt me more moving on let us know what you guys think vicky atoria wants to know who's the better cook brock hands down baby i'm a good cook you're getting better at it if you're if you're with it
Starting point is 00:26:58 what is it my home chef shout out to home chef yeah pay me, I'm poor. I watched Bridesmaids the other day. I was like, oh, that scene is so classic. I missed it. Oh my God. Help me, I'm poor. This is a very American thing where you watch a movie. Yeah. You record it in your head.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And then you could pull any reference from any movie. And everyone knows those same references. How do you not just sit there and watch a movie? Is that why when you watch a movie, you're not actually paying attention? You're just recording it for like one-offs to pull them out? No. Because half the time you're like,
Starting point is 00:27:30 what's going on in the movie? But then you can pull, you can reference that whole movie. I mean, he was very impressed. I sang every word of the Lion King songs yesterday without the music playing in the background. He was like, he was really high. I was so high.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I was lying at a picnic being serenaded. I think he started hallucinating as well the music playing in the background he was like he was really high i was so high and i was one at a picnic i think he started hallucinating as well because he's like babe look that tree looks like the tree from lion king's like my seven yeah and then i went into like every and i sang like all the words from the day we arrived on the planet yeah she didn't miss a beat and i was just like and he was looking at me like what i? I thought I was doing well, like going like one verse, then maybe the second. And then I like forgot a bit and then kept going. But she was just hitting every night. And I was like, oh, you want to see I Just Can't Wait to Be King?
Starting point is 00:28:13 I got that one down too. And he's like, no, you don't. And I just rambled that off. And he's like, but how? I'm like, well, I've seen the movie several hundred times since, you know, it came out in what, 94 or whenever. the movie several hundred times since you know it came out in what 94 or whenever but also when i was in fourth or fifth grade we did this big production every year called fame and one year it was the lion king theme so we had rehearsal every day of the circle of life like that was our like intro song walking in so i had rehearsals to the same song every day too. Did you have to sing that song? Yeah, but it was all of us singing.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Give me your best, like, ah, subvención. No, let's not go there. Subvención. Listen here,
Starting point is 00:28:55 I'm like, let's not talk about pitch or tone, okay? I'm not a professional. I'm tone deaf, apparently. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:00 it's okay. It's okay. Babe, I've got a good question in here. Okay, who said it? Somebody.
Starting point is 00:29:06 No. NY Thrift. Underscored Thrift, okay? Do you like the way your boyfriend dresses and his hair? You know what's funny is I think— Do you dress him, by the way? Or is it all you? It's all me, baby.
Starting point is 00:29:19 No, you ask me to pick out your clothes sometimes. Okay. Well, I mean, I saw you guys had, like, matching— You were both in white. But that was totally not planned seriously so i just brought that dress because i've i've finally caught up to everyone else with the covid weight and i've put some on and i grabbed that red dress and i was like you know i haven't worn this in a while i was like i'm gonna bring a backup just in case and i'm like i know the white one fits me and what's ironic
Starting point is 00:29:42 is the white one barely fit me and the red one was perfect so I just had that extra dress because I wanted a backup dress for dinner and all of the black ones I have are like really tight and I was like I just wasn't feeling that look so I brought that one and then I didn't know we were going to a picnic I had a feeling because he sent me a menu I messed this up he sent me a menu. I messed this up. He sent me a menu and was like, hey, can you eat everything on here? Like, because he knows how picky I am. And I was like, I looked up smoked trout roe and I was like, yeah, that's got to be
Starting point is 00:30:13 no. You got to put something else in to substitute for that. And then, but it said like picnic menu. And so I was like, oh, we're doing a picnic? And he's like, no. He's like, that was for the pool because they were sending out snacks. And I was like, oh, because at the pool at the hotel they did send out snacks. So i was like oh we're doing a picnic and he's like no he's like that was for the pool because they were sending out snacks and i was like oh because at the pool at the hotel they did send out snacks so i was like yeah they didn't send out any of the other stuff on the menu but i was like whatever so he tricked me for a bit that i didn't think we were going to a picnic but then
Starting point is 00:30:37 that dress ended up being so perfect for a picnic and he just happened to wear all white that was not planned whatsoever but going back to the question, when we first started dating, do you remember what he was wearing when we were at Caboo? He took his shirt off and gave it to Danielle. So he had this like party shirt on, really, really tight jeans.
Starting point is 00:30:58 His butt crack, I remember, was sticking out. And we were in the Uber, me, him, and Danielle. And he like reached up to like turn the radio or something because the person was driving straight crack in the face and it was like crack in the face and i remember danielle looking at me being like and i was like he's still hot whatever but i was like okay i guess he doesn't wear underwear so i learned that really early on and then he oh he always wore these like loafer type of shoes, which I just was like not down with. But I'm like, he's foreign, you know, technically he's foreign.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I guess that's just how they dress. And I was like, I remembered earlier that year I went to Australia hoping to find one. And we all looked good. And so in the beginning I was just like, and then what it really was, that was when we went to football games. And he wore his festival outfit to a football game. And I was like, bro, come on. We're at a football game. Put on a jersey.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It was blue. But it was like he was dressed for like a festival at a sporting event. Naturally, he just started, I think, noticing what like the L.A. vibe was. And then the next time he came up, he had Vans on and a hoodie. And I was like, i didn't even have to train him he's just learning himself and then yeah it just slowly started getting better and better but then it's like now i love the party shirts and like i'm like babe wear those loafers like with your skinny jeans that it's just like it's such a part of him that i love it but in the
Starting point is 00:32:21 beginning i've never dated anyone who's dressed like him well they're straight leg jeans but they're just skinny well because he just has legs today yeah I have no idea like how much effort men do or don't put into getting dressed it's like a foreign subject I could do a lot better and when I do I'd put in some effort in there but like recently COVID's a thing and all that so I haven't't really done anything. Plus, I mean, the boys put on like 15 pounds. So jeans are definitely small. I've officially moved on from the XL category. I can no longer buy an XL shirt.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I am double XL. It's like so a bad thing. Yeah, it's okay. You got muscles. Honey, Natalie Louise Griffin would like to know, would you ever write a book about your life? Absolutely. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I definitely plan on doing that when the time is right. What do you want to title it? Little Black Book of Pump? Bootleg Kardashian. I haven't actually thought about a title yet, but I know, I mean, I have a broadcast journalism degree. I've been a writer my whole life. That's definitely something I will do one day.
Starting point is 00:33:28 How do you feel about the Kardashians ending? Are you sad? I'm, yeah, but I heard that it's not ending. It's just moving to a different platform. Like it's going to like digital or something. So it might not necessarily. No, that's not true. It might not necessarily be over for good. i don't know if maybe it'll be
Starting point is 00:33:47 less of them or whatever but courtney for sure yeah she i mean she's been done like she hasn't wanted to do it the last couple seasons she's never started yeah but i mean i love that show i get a lot of my interview inspo from their looks you know bootleg gotta i'm like hey if it looks good in her interviews it'll probably look good in my interviews so um but just because that show is like the most real reality show there is talking about the show on the show like i have such a love for it and i will definitely miss it i'm sad r. R.I.P. Is that like because you're in a reality show that's why you find it so interesting that they involve like production
Starting point is 00:34:30 in that or what do you reckon as like a normal fan of the show do they like that? Do they like like the fourth wall being broken? Does a normal person like that? I think yeah I think. That's what I'm asking like Jamie's not do you like watching the Kardashians and watching the fourth wall get broken or you don't really care about production?
Starting point is 00:34:45 You just want to see what they're up to? Admittedly, and I'm sorry, Sheena, I don't really find the Kardashians interesting. Oh, okay. But I'm excited to see what's going to take their place. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hint, hint.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Hint, hint. I realized that one. Save that for a later podcast. We can talk about that later. All right, honey. Well, guess what? We've got some pasta to go get. And our reservation's in two minutes. Yeah, you're right. And we got to go. Thanks for a later podcast. Yeah, we can talk about that later. All right, honey. Well, guess what? We've got some pasta to go get. And our reservation's in two minutes.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah, you're right. So we got to go. Thanks for listening, guys. Bye. Sheena Shea. Shea FK. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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