Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Namaste B$tches with Teresa Giudice & Melissa Pfeister

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

This week, Scheana talks to Teresa Giudice and Melissa Pfeister all about their new podcast, Namaste B$tches. Teresa opens up about Real Housewives of New Jersey and how long it took her to sign her very first contract for the show, family drama, and the truth finally coming out about whether she ever knew her brother and sister-in-law were going to be on the show. They also talk about parenting, their favorite and least favorite parts of BravoCon 2022, and Dancing with the Stars. What's the tea for the upcoming season of RHONJ? How long did Teresa's wedding glam take? What to expect from their podcast? All this and more, tune in now! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans   Go to www.factor75.com/scheana60 and use code scheana60 to get 60% off your first box   Produced by Dear Media    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So leave the filters and face tunes at the door and join me on RealPod. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. Today, we are getting into some shenanigans with my girl, Teresa Giudice, and the co-host of her new podcast namaste bitches melissa feister how we doing ladies what's up sheena dude we're neighbors theresa by the way do you know that word sheena and i literally live and not to sound like a creepster but because you essentially live across from my parents you are 1.7 miles away from me.

Wow. Wow. I'm jealous. I want to be where you guys are, like the warm weather. I know. Warm weather. We've got sunshine, the beach. It's so nice.

I keep telling Melissa I'm putting it out in the universe because I feel like I really believe in that. I'm all about the namaste. And in four years, I think I want to be in California because I'm going to really believe in that. Like, you know, I'm all about the namaste. And in four years, I think I want to be in California because I'm going to go off to college. Yeah. Yeah. And Louie keeps talking about buying a house and he wanted to buy a house in Florida. And I'm like, Florida's too. No, you don't want to go there. Yeah. So it's all right. I love that. Would you hop franchises and be on Real housewives of Beverly Hills or OC?

Yeah, of course. Why not? Yeah. You'd be at Beverly Hills. Yeah. But those bitches know how to cut a bitch. I have to say. I mean, all of y'all do your girl. I mean, I have to say, yeah, my, our franchise, not me, but there's like a, there's our dirty. They play dirty on my franchise. Also they do. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's just a housewives thing. I know. You know why it's just that Beverly Hills is because it's so hot right now. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. We're both at Bravo con. Everything was about Beverly Hills.

Cause it just finished airing. Yeah. I think it was like part two of the reunion had aired that week and we were still waiting on part three. It was like the first time Kyle and Kathy saw each other since then. Yeah. And it's very over there. Yeah, that was really sad too. I didn't understand all that. And I just watched part three of the reunion and I was like, it was jaw dropping. Yeah, I know. I just finished it too. I was so behind. I was like, wait, I feel like I didn't finish it. And then yeah, I still have part three, but all caught up. So how do you ladies know each other? I want to talk about your for real friendship. I love Melissa. I just look, I finally got into me in my life. See, Sheena, God's good.

He really is. I'm telling you, God is really good. So if you want something in life, make sure you ask for it. It really does come true. I adore Melissa so much. I love her husband. I love her children. And look, God brought us together.

I'm telling you, there's always a season, a reason, a lesson, a blessing, a lifetime. And just like my Louie, she's going to be my lifetime. I love that. Lifetime friendship. We met through Cynthia. Schultz finished telling you the story, but we met through my friend Jim, my lawyer

and best friend Jim. Okay. But Melissa will take it away now. I didn't even pay her to say that shit. Yeah, so I... Oh, by the way, Teresa, I don't know if you know, Sheena was on Side Piece. Yeah, you told me.

Yeah, so then that's how Sheena and I met. You know everybody. You're like the president. You do. There you go. That's exactly what I am. You know everybody. You're like the president. You do. There you go. That's exactly what I am. There you go. So then I had Teresa's attorney on.

Okay. And became like really cool with him. And then I had Mike Hill, Cynthia Bailey's now ex. I had him on through Mike and I keeping in touch uh I met Cynthia and one day Cynthia was like hey the ultimate girl strip premiere is happening here in LA Mike can't go can you be my date so I was her date and in walks Teresa and I was like oh fuck like how is this gonna go like I don't know who this chick is right like Jim her attorney was like I told Teresa you're there you guys are gonna meet

and I'm not just saying this because she's sitting right here in front of us she because other people that were also there weren't the friendliest Teresa and Louie both of them were phenomenal like the second they met me, so sweet, so welcoming. So just like, cool. And then we just kind of started talking. And I mean, you know how long this stuff takes. It takes months and months. Oh, totally.

To get like the podcast going and to work out everything. And then finally, months later, six, seven, eight, nine months later, we started. Yeah. I love that, that your co-host's name is Melissa, of all names. I know. You know, everybody, you know, she was just in the hospital. So we had to cancel two of our podcast live events. I know.

And everybody thought it was the other Melissa. I'm like, no, it's my co-host, Melissa Feaster. It's great. Melissa Feaster. It's great. Melissa Feaster. Sorry, I said Feister. That's all right. I've been called a lot worse, you know. I've been called a lot worse.

Everybody's... Same here. That's my last name, different too. And she's a blonde. So she's the blonde. I'm the brunette. You know, we go good together, you know. I love it.

It's a good balance for sure. Yeah. So I actually, Melissa, I'll tell you this. I had a similar story when I first met Teresa, which she probably doesn't even remember. It was my first season of Vanderpump Rules. We were at this big upfront event. I had never seen any show on Bravo. I didn't know anything about the network really before becoming a part of it. So I'm at this event. My whole cast, they hated me when the show started. There was only one of them, Tom Sandoval, who was nice to me at the time. The rest of them hate me. They're trying to get me fired. They want nothing to do with me. And I'm just like standing at the bar by myself,

so uncomfortable. And these two guys with thick Jersey accents come up to me. They're like, why are you by yourself? Come over, hang out with us. It was your brother, actually, and Richie. And I came over and I met you and Priscilla. And you were so fucking sweet to me. Priscilla literally has done my makeup ever since then. And I just I remember that moment because I didn't know anyone there. And I just became such a fan of you in that moment, started watching your show. And I've never

missed an episode since. I remember meeting you. I'm like, she's so pretty, you know, and I love, I love pretty, like I love all people, but like, you know, when someone's pretty, I say it, you know, I'm not like, I don't get, you know, envious of them or anything. Like I'm like, she's so pretty, you know? Well, thank you. And we have the best makeup artist. And I wanted to lick you, but I couldn't. And I'm like, That's later. That's later. No, that's the thing. Like, that's the thing. Everyone, and Trish and I talk about this all the time. Like everyone just thinks she's like this like table flipping you know hothead and

mean person mean person yeah me no people think so not true at all and again I'm not just saying true I've told Teresa many of things she probably hasn't want to hear I don't just sit here and like blow smoke up her ass you know she's definitely not that at all when you actually do talk with her and like you're making me jealous i know i'm like oh what am i doing your arms look so good your titties look nice i'm like i'm getting jealous here meanwhile i'm just sitting here in my merch which boobies. We can show our bodies off, right? Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here in my merch, which you guys can get at shop.dearmedia.com.

It's all happening. So cute. Yes. So, okay. Tell me about the new podcast. What made you guys want to start one? How did it come out? Like come about?

Was it easy to come up with the name? Let's go back to the beginning. It was not easy to get it going. It took a long freaking time. And, you know, I'm coming from the podcast space where I do a side piece with a production company and that took a hot minute to get going. This took even longer. Right. And it wasn't even Teresa was like the end of it. It was all the behind the scenes that I was working on. My husband was working on her attorney. It took a good minute. And then it was the two of us after we kind of got it going, then it was a two of us getting going. And you know how long that takes. It's like all like the reps and the practice interviews and this like the everything. And we're always doing it like this. She's in Jersey. I'm in LA. So it's not a lot of in person. And then it's like, okay, we're doing this. We need a cool ass name. Teresa and I both try to be namaste. No, I am namaste. You are. Okay, you are. I try with every ounce of my being to be namaste.

And we're both cool ass bitches. So we got to throw bitches in there somewhere. So that's kind of how the name came about. Yeah, because Sheena, everyone thinks I'm so not namaste. They don't really know the real Teresa. So I figured from listening, if everyone listens to namaste bitches, they will get to know the real Teresa. That I am so namaste they don't really know the real Teresa so I figured from you know from listening if everyone listens to namaste bitches they will get to know the real Teresa that I am so namaste I just go with the flow I'm very easy going and I think from talking to me you know you could see that already

oh I mean I've known that for years for sure but like I get a bad rap on unfortunately New Jersey half-wives you know that's the thing I mean when you're on a show, you know, it's produced, it's edited, and you get the version that they want to tell. That's what the beauty is about doing podcasts and YouTube and other outlets is because you have the control and the power to put out exactly what you want to put out and for people to get to know that other side of you. So I'm so glad that you started this show. So people do get to hear that side that you you know, we know because we know you, but they don't know because

they don't know. Thank you. You know, and Housewives as Vanderpump rules. I mean, those two shows are such small parts of your life, right? Your mom, your wife, your friend, like there's a million other things going on. Teresa is so much more than Real Housewives of freaking New Jersey. Yeah. Oh, it's just like, let's talk about those things. Like, what don't you know? You don't know me. I know that people listening don't know me.

And then who is Teresa outside of a reality, crazy drama filled show? Yeah. Well, I do want to talk about that because all three of us are moms. You know, I mean, Teresa, before the show, you know, I mean, you have four beautiful daughters. Melissa, how many kids do you have? I have two, a five and a three year old. Five and three. Oh, my God. OK. I knew they were young, but I couldn't remember. Yeah. And baby, look at you. Yeah. One and a half. I know. So we're all working moms, you know, in entertainment in different forms. Melissa, would you, if your kids wanted to do a reality show, what would you say to them one day?

I would say, fuck yeah. Yeah. My husband, I don't know. My husband sells TV shows. So he is the one that makes all the magic happen behind the scenes. Yeah. I want to be, have my face in front of the scenes. And yeah, not that type of person. But I mean, yeah, I would please my five and three year old put on shows. I wish I was as cool, talented, and funny as they

are. I think they're born for something. Is it like a housewife show? I don't know. Is it something? Sure. A thousand percent. I would say yes. Totally. Teresa, was it a hard decision or was it an easy decision when you started the show to, you know, put your whole life out there, including your kids? Well, at first it was hard for me because I didn't know what I was getting myself into. So I'm like, is this like a fake thing? I didn't, I didn't understand it really. And living in New Jersey, it's different. Like there's like, no, it's like, this is New Jersey.

Like it's suburban. Like, it's not like you're in California, Sheena, like where you are, like all the stars live there. So when you hear about a TV show, you're like, oh my God, then it's real. Like, I was like what is this like i kept asking around like everybody else on my cast signed the contract right away it took me 11 and a half months to sign my contract oh wow they were chasing me for 11 and a half months wow i guess they saw a star there me, which I didn't know.

Yeah. Yeah, so they didn't leave me alone. And then after a while, I kept asking Dina about it. And Dina's like, she didn't even want to talk to me anymore. Because I was being indecisive. And I wasn't deciding to do the show or not. So I was like, I would wait a few weeks. Then I would call her again and be like, what do you think about this?

And then after a while, she's like, I don't even want to talk to her anymore you know like and by the way Sheena she's doing it with three kids I know young kids like I was telling you Sheena I'm losing my mind trying to work three different jobs with two kids under five she's doing and no help she was doing it all by herself three kids under what seven five shit oh yeah i mean g i think was like seven or six wow so gia was seven and then her and gabriel are four years apart so seven and then like what so she was like four and then yeah and milania was three yes i think I think three, four and seven. Yes.

That's so crazy. Yeah. And I remember like doing the show and I heard then finally I signed the contract and then I signed, Sheena, I signed the contract without showing a lawyer. I signed the contract because Jack, I was with Jacqueline and Jacqueline's like,

you know what? And she's like, let's just do this. And she called me and she's like, come on, sign the contract already. Let's do this. And I'll be like, and I was just like one down and it's like, you know what? And she's like, let's just do this. And she called me and said, come on, Teresa, sign the contract. All right, let's do this. And I'll be like, and I was just like one down and it's like, all right. And like me and Jacqueline, we were best friends, you know? Yeah. So I was like, all right, fine. I just signed the contract and I gave it to her and she, we have video of her putting in the FedEx box. And that was it. I mean, to be honest, I didn't have a lawyer look at mine the first season either. It was,

I mean, to be honest, I didn't have a lawyer look at mine the first season either. It was, yeah, it wasn't that crazy. I didn't think of a contract at the time. Wow, you didn't? Like out there in LA? Yeah, I was just like, all right, you know, we'll see where this goes. And then after a couple seasons, it was like, I think I do need to have a lawyer kind of look into this. Because you, I mean, there's so many words and jargon and all this shit in there you're like huh what does that mean yeah yeah let's just sign it right here's my life

I was so young and it was a tv show and there was a paycheck and so I was like all right fuck it let's do it but I was hesitant first as well. You know, it's crazy. Both of you guys, the OGs. Yeah. I mean, Sheena, most of your cast, you know, a lot of them are gone. Teresa, I mean, is anyone left from your original? No.

No. Look at the OG. I'm the only one standing right now. Yeah, I'm the only one standing right now. Yeah, I'm the only one standing. Yeah, I think it was, because when I met you, I think y'all were maybe in your third season. So I had missed the first season or two. I missed the table flipping live.

I had to go back and like watch the old episodes. And I was like, wait, this is one of the most iconic scenes that's ever been on Bravo. I need to see what happened. Have you guys seen? So you have kids, obviously. Today, we were watching Zootopia Plus on Disney Plus. Oh, my God. I haven't seen it. Episode two. It's like the real rodents of rodentia or something. And it is a total spoof on Jersey Housewives.

Really? It was hilarious. They're all standing there. They're holding their cheese. The dad of the bride is like the godfather. It's so cute. It's these little shorts on Disney Plus, but it's definitely a Housewives spoof. And we were just waiting for one of the little

rodents to flip a table and they didn't. And I was kind of disappointed. It's adorable. We just watched it this morning. So cute. I'm going to look it up. Yeah, definitely. Okay. Speaking of cheese, that reminds me, let's take a little break because I got to talk to y'all about my new fave food. If y'all have been listening to this show for a while, you know, I am obsessed with meal deliveries. My latest obsession is factor and how this one is different is they don't send you the ingredients to make for yourself. They have everything already cooked, prepared and made for you. It makes things so much easier at home. Like Brock

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it took three and a half hours and I started so early because I didn't get back until 630. So I was like, why do we have to start so early? Not thinking about my hair at all. Just like, I was like, so we did start pretty early. And yeah, just my hair took three and a half hours. My makeup, I don't even know how long she took on my makeup. Like probably like an hour, hour and a half. You know, Priscilla.

Yeah. She's so quick though, too. She can do full glam in like 20 minutes. It's crazy. Yeah. But like, yeah, she took three and a half hours to do my hair. And like, I was dying to do a trial beforehand, but we just didn't have the time. You know, I was filming Real Housewives of New Jersey and we kept saying, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. And I just never got a chance to do a trial, but I knew I wanted my hair half up, half down. Cause you know, cause I, Louis, like I wanted my hair away from my face. Yeah. I did.

And then at first I wanted to do the old Hollywood look, but like when she was like, you're not doing that. She's like, everybody, their mothers has that hat, you know, has worn their hair like that for the wedding. I'm like, okay. So then I was just like, all right, I want half up, half down. And my crown was so massive that, you know, my hair couldn't just be like, you know, like, you know, I don't know. You needed the big hair. Yeah. My hair had to, you know, go a little bit higher than my crown, you know? So, and of course there's, you know, the higher the hair, the closer to God you are. So, yeah. I love that. And I have to say, after it was done, I mean, like I said, it wasn't planned. It was just the way it was supposed to go. And I really believed that.

Like, I looked in the mirror and I was like, I like this, you know? And it just, the thing is, even if I wanted to change a sheen, there was like no time. Like, I had to go. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, that's why I didn't the day you you know it flies by so quick yeah I really loved I got my pictures I'm still posting because I haven't posted that much and um so I really love my hair I mean the only thing I wish I could have changed my hair for my second dress but there was like no time. There's no, yeah, you don't have that much time. Like I

changed dresses, but you don't have that much time. So it was like perfect. It was such a beautiful day. It was so magical. And I can't wait for everyone to see this wedding special. I know. I am so excited to watch it. Okay. So it's not just a part of, is it a part of Real Housewives of New Jersey at all? Or is it just a wedding special? It's just a wedding special. So I don't even know the name here or anything. I can't wait to find out the name. So yeah, so I don't even, I mean, they're working on it as we speak. So I can't wait to find out. Yeah. Oh my God. I love that. So I had a question come in. I sent it to Melissa last night and she's like, you have to ask this. Erica Nicole Borges wants to know,

ask Tree, which is heavier, her wedding hair or carrying Joe and Melissa's storyline on the show? Oh my God. Carrying,

yeah, the second one, the family thing. I mean, that, that, I've had to carry that for like over 10 years. Like, it's unfortunate.

It's so sad. And it's like not the way, you know, that's when I met you, season three. Yeah. And Gina, if it was the other way around, like I would have never, if my brother was on a TV show, I would have never, first of all, I would have never gone behind his back and gone on a TV show, you know, without him knowing, obviously. Because like, I was like talking, behind his back and gone on a TV show without him knowing, obviously. Because I was talking.

The thing, this is what happened. Listen, there was like, I love Melissa. When my brother first met her, I really did. Because I don't know if you know this. I don't know if a lot of people know this. But when my brother met Melissa, it was his third fiance. Oh, I did not know that. Yes Melissa, it was his third fiance. Oh, I did not know that. Yes. So it was his third fiance. He called off two weddings before that.

The first one, eight months before the second one, a month before. Oh, wow. And the second one, the first one, I had nothing to do with that one. But the second one, the family was really mean to us. So me and my mother were at the bridal shower and I told my brother I was like you know I was like I was like you know they were so mean to us Joe I said you're not going to be happy in this family so my brother saw you know and then I guess he had probably feelings too I haven't you know so I just said that to him and then he called off the wedding a month before the wedding oh wow yeah so then he meets melissa and like and so when he met melissa like and then he kind of like was like a little bit like i don't know it got weird like you know so he you know like i guess people go through stages like um he was sad and stuff so i only wanted to

make him happy like my mother and i you know of course he i guess you lose confidence or i don't know what it was because like you know he was beautiful it's like but he went through like his stages like I think that he was probably never gonna find anyone that's not the case or maybe and that was the case too because I got married I was married so my me and my brother were like best friends we really were we were best friends when I first got married to Joe he was over my house every single day. That's how come him and Gia are so close. So when he met Melissa, Gia was three years old and Gia didn't like, Gia didn't like Melissa. You could ask Gia yourself because I guess Gia thought like Melissa was taking my brother away from her. You know how little kids get jealous. Oh, totally. I was like that with

my older cousin. Yeah. So that's how Gia didn't like Melissa at first, but you know, but then whatever, she got over it and then she ended up being the flower girl on their wedding. But anyway, I was like, whatever makes my brother happy, made me happy. So I really, you know, like loving her in the beginning. I was, I was like, so like my brother loves her. We love her. So we kept our mouth shut. They got engaged after five. She moved in after a month. They met, they moved, he met her. She moved in like after a month and I was just like, wow, that was quick. You know, but we didn't say nothing. You know,

they got engaged after five months and then they got married in 10 months. So everything happened so fast. So we just kept their, yeah. So, you know, so we were happy for and then afterwards like I think everything was good and then like she changed like I was calling her every day and then all of a sudden like after they got married she wasn't taking my calls in the morning I was like you know like I guess me calling her in the morning kind of bothered her I guess you you know I should think your sister what was her question Sheena I was like, you know, like, I guess me calling her in the morning kind of bothered her. I guess you, you know, I should think your sister. What was her question, Sheena? I'm like lost right now. What was your even question? Oh, so like I'm telling her the story a little bit. After all, I'm like, where the hell did we even start? No, I was trying to give her the little

backstory. It was the backstory. Honestly, I don't even remember what the question she was saying how melissa was joe's third fiance that's where it started behind her back okay wait but what was the question oh my god i can't follow you anyway what was the question now i don't remember what the question was. We were talking about the wedding. Oh, about carrying their storyline. That's where it started. They went behind your back.

Yes. Right. So basically, yeah. So then my whole thing is, yeah, they came with a show behind my back, which I think everybody knows now. Have Sheena,

have you seen that? Carlos King came forward and he said heather mcdonald has heather this is how it all started heather mcdonald interviewed carlos king okay producer season one and two also atlanta housewives producer so cynthia knows him kenya more knows him very well so heather mcdonald interviewed carlos king and asked him the truth like you know and he he admitted the truth he's like yes theresa's telling the truth that melissa she did not know her you know her that her sister-in-law and her cousin kathy were coming on the show it was she was blindsided oh but that's like your sister like brock having a sister interviewing

behind your back and then all of a sudden you get a phone call from andy cohen saying um sheena your sister-in-law is gonna your sister-in-law and your first cousin is gonna be gonna be on vanderpump rules you're gonna be like what what the fuck i was just talking to them last week yeah and they and they were new. And you told them what was going on on your show. That's how it all went down. So, wow. Yeah.

And ever since then. I love the backstory. Yeah. And then, yeah. But I was trying to say, yeah. Ever since then, it's been since season three on Sheena. And that's when I started watching. So she's always been on the show since I've watched it.

I went back and watched the scene of you flipping the table but I didn't watch the first full two seasons so oh yeah so it's been and if you watch the first episode of season three like the first thing you started filming it's christening my my nephew's christening that was like I swear to god I was so blindsided. Wow. Because I said, congratulations. And Sheena, this is the thing too now, which everybody doesn't understand. I never watched the show. You know why I didn't watch the show? Not because I was lazy, but I didn't watch the show because it was, thank God I didn't watch the show. Because now I'm watching the show and I'm seeing everything that my brother Melissa said about me and my ex-husband and I'm like mortified. It's like so

heartbreaking, so heart-wrenching, so sad that my own family could be talking like this about me. Yeah. So that's why I never watched it. And look, there was a reason why I didn't watch it. God was looking over me because if I would have watched it, it would have not been good. It would have upset my parents. Like they were still alive back then. You know, they were alive. I really did keep the peace for my parents. And like, now look, I don't have my parents anymore. And it's like, I'm just like, I'm like, I'm free now. Like, meaning like, I'm done. Like, I wish them well. I wish them happiness in their life. Please just leave me alone. Keep my name out of their mouth. And that's it. I just want peace. Because I'm so tired of being dragged through the mud these past 10 years. And a lot of times I just kept my mouth shut to keep

the peace. And like in her, my sister all lying through her freaking teeth. Yeah. Lying for 10 years that I knew she was coming on the show. Why would I lie? And now all these people are coming forward and saying the truth. And it's like, look,

it took 10 years for the truth to come out. So guys, put it out there. The truth always comes out. So don't lie. Yeah. Don't be boning some hoes. Cause we'll find out. No, but my thing is I don't lie. I don't like, I got something to say. I tell you to your face and if you don't like it, I'm sorry, but that's one thing I don't do. I don't lie. Yeah. Cause the truth always does come out 100 percent and I'm sorry I'm very passionate about it because it's your family I totally know I can be in drag through

the mud for 10 years and like everybody keeps lying because she knows her word against mine so she's like fuck her can I curse yeah yeah she was probably like fuck her nobody's gonna know the truth because it's her words against mine and And then look, finally the truth comes out and it's like, really bitch. You're like, you had to say all this all these years and like, and I'm your family. It's like, how could you do that to family? It's so sad. It's really, but like, look, but now I feel like I'm set free and it's like, and I know my parents are fine with it. They're probably like, I'm glad she's at peace now because you know, to be dragged through the mud for all these years, I'm so tired of it, you know? And that's why, and then, and I'm really happy. I'm

like, thank God. I'm like, you know, it's like, I feel like really like a bigger weight's been lifted off of me. And it's just like, please, just leave me alone now, you know? Yeah. Stay in your love bubble, Teresa. Yeah. And then, you know, I know a lot of people are getting, like, tired of that. I love love. I fucking love it.

That's what I captioned our photo from BravoCon. I said, love bubble. It's like, if anybody has anything negative to say, it's so sad. I know. My sister-in-law, Veronica, she's the one that said to me, like, we got together. She's like, you have to protect your love bubble. She's like, you know, and I was like, you know what? She's right. Cause there were people out there trying to burst her love bubble. I would have let that happen. Then I wouldn't have been with Louie.

And I was like, you know what? I didn't listen to any of the noise. And I think so you I think I don't know if you went through something like that, too. Anything with you or no was the timing of Brock and I starting to date. It actually worked out perfectly because we met six months before the pandemic. And then we had an entire year and a half of a relationship off camera. So we had lived together, been through a miscarriage my entire pregnancy and the birth of my daughter before we were ever on camera together. So that for our relationship was a blessing, because if we would have been on camera six months into our relationship and for him to have the season that he had as his first season, there's no way he would have stuck around. He

would have been like, fuck this. I don't need this shit. Like, yeah, that's why none of my other relationships worked out because it was just it's hard when you're in the spotlight and on a reality show. I mean, it is really hard to, you know, protect that relationship because people are always coming for you. Just gave me the chills because I don't know if you watched the season that Louis came on. Oh, yeah. Every single episode. Oh, my God. That's why I fucking threw everything on the table on Margaret because I couldn't take it no more.

It's like, leave my boyfriend alone. It's like, who are you? It's like, if I'm a grown woman, let me get to know him. I don't care what anybody else says. Cause listen, everybody has a different experience with, you know, anybody they date and it's like, you got to make that determination if you're going to be happy with that person or not, you know, cause listen, I'm sure everybody, you know, goes to, you know, they date somebody, maybe it doesn't work out with that person, but then the next person it works out. Look at my brother. He was engaged twice before. Yeah.

It didn't work out with the last. Third time's a charm. Exactly. And then it worked out with Melissa. So it's like, keep your mouth shut. It's like, you know, and that's why I couldn't. And thank God, I'm grateful that Louie didn't say, you know, like, listen, I'm out of here. Because it was, we had all this outside noise trying to, like, break us up, which was so sad, you know?

Yeah. I had Dolores on my podcast. And we were talking about Louis. And just saying how him and Brock had similar first seasons on the show. And Dolores was like, you should probably have Brock reach out to him. Because they can definitely relate. They're in the same situation. And so Brock had reached out to him on Instagram.

And then they became friends. Finally, they've met in person. I can't wait to hang out again when you guys are in L.A. this weekend. Yeah, I know. I think I reached out to Brock. Yeah. Yeah. I know, Melissa, because like we said, we are neighbors.

Her husband saw Brock walking recently around our neighborhood, right? I mean, we've we've passed. Remember at BravoCon? you guys are going out yeah we're taking the car into the the to the stage yeah like oh hey what's up but no i mean josh has seen you know josh goes on the street to get his coffee and sheena and brock live like right there and by the way like i was telling sheena you're not gonna really miss brock right especially when he has like a little baby. So my husband's definitely seen Brock.

And it's funny too. I think I told you, Sheena, we were having a notary come over for something. And I was just hanging up with you. And I came down and I look like, like I have like the party up top and like the, Josh is like boxers on the bottom because just the fun of the zoom. Right. And I look like, Oh, with my makeup, all flashy and whatnot. And I have a mask on and he's like, what's happening here? I was like, sorry. He's like, you do a podcast. I was like, yeah, I just had a really cool chick. It was fun. And he's like, Oh wait, Bravo. I just went to someone on Bravo and I did a noter. Like I didn't get that. They

needed something notarized. Do you know, like a James? Yeah. Oh my God. He was the shit. I loved him. He did our prenup. Yes. He was like, I actually did. And I think like they were filming and I was like, you're joking. I literally, literally am sprinting down from just talking to her to notarize myself. That's so crazy. Yeah. Funny. Teresa. Yeah. Do you remember the first time you met Brock at BravoCon last year? Yes. Well, we were getting our makeup done. Yeah. Yeah. It was so sweet. I had just gotten him into watching Bravo because he had never seen Vanderpump Rules or anything. And so he was like super into Jersey. And I go to get my makeup done.

And I mean, it's basically an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey. Everyone's in there. We're all just like swapping out between hair and makeup. And ever since then, he was like, oh, he's like my Teresa. I'm like, oh, you're Teresa. Oh, OK. I love that. You know, Brock and I have talked a couple of times. Yeah. With the whole like, you know, because I'm also a certified nutritionist. And I know everything that Brock was starting. Yeah. No, definitely everything with his homebody. They're trying to pivot right now and not just focus on live streaming, but also to do training programs,

nutrition and all of that. So I'm sure he's going to be in touch with you even more coming up to work together in that. I've actually talked, I actually met and talked with him before you. Yeah. Oh, that is right. Oh my God. I do remember that. Yeah. I was talking to him months, I mean, months before you came on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you have another podcast side piece. That's how we met. And then I ran into you recently, like you just said at Bravo con. I want to know what were your ladies highlights and low points of Bravo con. All right, I'll go first. Um, I know I thought it was all great. It really was.

I had a great experience. It was great meeting all the fans. I had a really great time. I liked all my outfits. It was good. It was so good. The low point was again,

hearing what my brother had to say you know that was a low point you know that that he um it was watch what happens live and it was the question got asked to melissa and i guess if you didn't want to answer the question then you could you know you had to drink oh yeah and um so i guess melissa didn't want to answer the question. So she drank, but then of course, my brother takes the stage, you know, as he did and answered the question. So, you know, that was a low point for me because it's, you know, it's hurtful to hear some, you know, to hear something negative that my own flesh and blood is saying. Yeah, for sure. What about you, Melissa? I mean, it was fun. Listen, I literally started it by, well, Tamara walked in and she was

like, you know, you can hear Tamara's voice, right? When you leave. And then as I'm literally starting going into it, that's when you and I and Brock and Josh do the fly by. Like you guys go scooting by. I'm like, oh, hey, Brock's like, you're going to do a podcast. It was so sweet. Yeah. And then I had, I had like the dopest panel too. I mean, for Housewives related. I mean, it was Meredith from Salt Lake City, Dolores, Jersey, Teresa, Louis.

It was awesome. Candy. So much fun. Yeah, it was awesome. It was. It was awesome. Candy. So much fun. Yeah, it was awesome. It was. Yeah. Melissa was great, you know, narrating the whole, you know, our segment. Like, yeah, she was wonderful. It comes so easy

to her. I love that. Melissa, have you been on Real Housewives? And if not, would you? I have. Well, I don't know. Teresa, what's your bridal shower? Is that Jersey and your wedding? Oh, that's Jersey. Wait, I don't know if they's your bridal shower is that Jersey and your wedding that's Jersey that way wait I don't know if they're gonna no I think that's gonna be both I think

it's gonna be on uh no because I think that's gonna be on New Jersey yeah it's crazy how they're gonna split it up I think I think my wedding I still separate things from my wedding but I I don't know tell you the truth I don't know if my shower is going to be part of housewives or it's going to be part of the wedding I don't know so that was when the week before her bridal shower which she didn't know about it was surprise fun I flew out there and we did our photo shoot for namaste bitches then I cried back it was red eye in and then that afternoon back to LA that was the first weekend fast forward to the next weekend red eye in go to her surprise bridal shower she had no idea and then that night fly back and then the third weekend I flew out with Josh and that was for her wedding so it was literally three weekends back to back to back. Let her know that my bridal shower got changed, right? Cause I got COVID. Oh, duh. That's right. You got,

you know what? That's why, because we scheduled the photo shoot and I was going to just say, okay, I'm going back to LA. And then I had my hotel down the street. I was going to stay the night, Friday shoot, Saturday bridal shower. I was going to stay the night. This is perfect. I don't have to go back and forth cross country. And then this a-hole goes, screws up my plan, gets crowded, and we have to push her shower for a week. So I literally went back and forth to LA three different times. That's a good friend.

Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. Listen, I would do anything for Teresa. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was awesome. Listen, I would do anything for Teresa. I love her. She's a sister, like the best friend. I mean, I love her. You know, we're not just like podcasts, hosts, co-hosts together.

Yeah. Like a lot of people just kind of come together and they're like, oh, let's host this together. And then, you know, we'll see what happens. Or like when they throw these housewives on, no one really knows each other. Let's just go to work. Like we legit, I mean, I've talked to her like 14 times before we even came on to do this today. So it's, it's cool. It's, it's, it's awesome what this has turned into with us. Yeah. I love that. Teresa, how is the new house and how are the girls adjusting to this new lifestyle, you know, with you married to Louie in the new house? The house is great.

We've been, I know you got to come over. Yes. Beautiful. I would love that. You know what, Sheena, definitely next time you and Brock are in town, definitely come over. I'll have you guys over for dinner. You know, we'll go around here. Yeah.

Yeah. The baby. Oh, my God. The baby would love like, you know, just the backyard and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Girls would love oh my God, the baby would love like, you know, just the backyard and stuff. Yeah. My girls would love her to play with her. It's a backyard. They've been living here for a year and it's great that, you know, the, the girls get along with little, we call him little Louie and she can get along great with him. And Nicholas comes and stays with us every other weekend. Okay, nice.

I don't know if you know, Louis' oldest son. Yeah. He's 21. He has autism. And he lives with Louis' ex-wife and stays with us every other weekend. But the girls are so good with Nicholas. You know, as a mom, you never know if you're doing a great job. But then when you see your kids, how they are just in life, then you're like, oh, my God.

And you just sit back and you're like, look. And you're like, wow, I guess I did do a good job. You've done an amazing job. You those four girls are incredible. I've only had the pleasure of meeting Gia. But just from watching the show, you can just tell how well they were raised. And I have to say, Gia at BravoCon, oh my God, I'm just like, oh wow, you're like, you're legal to drink now. Like I've been watching her since she was so young

and she was rocking my eyelashes. Priscilla did her glam. She looked incredible. It was so fun to see her be a part of that as well. They're good kids. And Lil Louie. I mean, Louie too. We've all heard

what we've heard, right? Louie is an amazing dad. Yeah. The other night, I'm talking to Teresa and I want to say something to Louie. Louie's like, hold on.

I have to go take my tray of food up to my son. Like, made him his food. Aw. He slumped it up to his room. Like, he's just, he's a really good dad and Louie is,

little Louie is phenomenal. I mean, he's the sweetest. He good dad and louie is little louie is phenomenal i mean he's like such a gentleman yeah whoever girl ends up with him is going to be very lucky because like yeah the way he treats me i know little louie's going to treat you know his girlfriend and wife the same way yeah he's a good teacher yeah i love that no it's the same with my girls like they're so good with Nicholas like very inclusive because like you know this was all new to us too yeah and even my daughters but they include him and I and I love it they always say can I have friends or I'm like well you know if Nicholas could be there then it's all good totally you know yeah because I want Nicholas to feel and like every time he leaves our house, he tells us,

he says, Dad, when am I coming back? And he's like, Teresa, when am I coming back? Like he wants to come back, which I love. Yeah. You know, then he's having a good time. Yeah. You know, he's not dreading to come here. Yeah.

But like he loves doing puzzles and Legos. Like he's so good at it. He finishes them in like so quick. I'm like, Oh my God, he does that so quick. Yeah. It's just so good. Like the girls, they're amazing with them, you know, and you know, he's happy when he comes here. Yeah, of course. So I know you and Louie are going to be out here soon for dancing with the stars and i want to talk about what that experience was like for you and it was such a bummer that you went home so early we watched we voted and then it was like you're already gone i'm like what the hell man i don't

think if people are voting for me you see i voted i voted my demographic is where they weren't voting and i was even Pasha was shocked. He's like, wow, he's like, your Housewife demographic doesn't vote. And I said, I guess not. And I said, I thought I had, like, you know, I thought I had a big following, you know? See, I feel like that is the demographic who does vote.

That's what, like, with Charli D'Amelio, you know, I mean, she's clearly, like, the best. I mean, this girl is incredible, you know? I think that's my prediction. She's winning. Oh yeah. I mean, 21. Like I was saying, no, she's 18. Oh, even better. Oh my God. Yeah. How do you have an 18 year old? She has a big following. I know you're right because. But I feel like that demographic isn't the one watching Dancing with the Stars and calling in to vote I feel like our Bravo demographic is the one so that's all I was like how the hell did she go home so soon but what was the too short-lived but what was that

experience like rehearsals and all that did you have so much fun I mean I had like I had I would do it all over again but Sheena was no joke is it was hard work. Yeah. Like, first of all, I have no dance experience. So it was really, really hard for me. But I didn't care. And I gave it my all like, like I was, you know, we were I was practicing every single day, four hours a day. It was a lot like, I definitely was missed back, you know, missed at home. You know, it is, it takes a lot of, a lot of time away from yourself. It does. Totally. You know, and especially me, cause I don't have any dance experience. Maybe it's easier for

someone else that has dance experience, but it was harder for me cause I just, it was a lot to put it all together, but then I didn't get it. And then once I got it, I was like, oh my God, this is awesome. So yeah, I felt really confident, both dances. Like I had it down pat, like I felt confident. Yeah. I mean, I got a little distracted, like the first, I'll be honest, like the first, the package. Like when they shut the whole jail thing,

and Pasha told me, don't look at the package. Yeah. Then it just puts you in that head space and then you're about to dance. the whole jail thing that, and, and Pasha told me, don't look at the package. Yeah. Then it just puts you in that headspace and then you're about to dance. And I was like, I didn't like that. And then my second dance was about my dad. And of course, you know, you know, of course I was my dad. So it was kind of hard, but Pasha did warn me. Don't look at the, you know, at the package.

And I'm like, it's a little hard. Cause you're right there. It's right at the, you know, at the package. And I'm like, it's a little hard because you're here. It's right there. It's right above you. It's alive. Yeah. I did feel confident and it was amazing. But I guess it was the way it was supposed to go.

But I had the best experience. I'm going back for the finale. So I got to learn. We're doing a group dance. So I got to dance one more time and I can't wait. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I cannot wait to watch that.

It's going to be so much fun. I have a couple fan questions to wrap up the episode and Arlene wants to know, Teresa, what do you use and do to stay looking so radiant and youthful? You look amazing. Oh, I mean, thank you. I already was saying how great my skin was looking. And then right after, um, I said, I got, I got like the stress rash on my face, believe it or not, I guess like after the wedding and everything and, and then dancing with the stars. Like, I mean, believe it or not, like season 13, after you guys watch it, you're going to be like, it's jaw dropping because it did really stress me out a lot. I guess the stress came out afterwards on my skin, but thank God it's getting cleared up now. But I'm pretty simple.

I washed my face with like a face wash. Like the one I had in my bathroom was from Lancome. like the one I had in my bathroom was from Lancome and I use Lancome. And I use Lancome moisturizer and basically that's it. Like it's yeah. I mean, I guess, I guess I'm happy inside like with Louie. So maybe that's what comes out the radiant part of my face. It's just bursting off. Yeah. So, you know, that part I am grateful for. That's it. Yeah.

But pretty easy. I don't get that many facials, which I, you know, I think facials are great to get. But right now I'm going through that stage. Like it's dry here. I mean, winter time. So my skin is going through like that. It feels like it's getting dry just because it's cold out. Yeah.

I need like more moisturizer that whole thing melissa do you have any beauty tips yeah botox same that's mine well of course that too i mean that is my biggest secret 20 year olds get botox yeah i've been getting it since I was 25. Yeah. Oh my god, you started early. Well, because our show got picked up. And when we shot our pilot, I didn't have Botox. And I didn't want to be the girl who season two or three, you know, quote unquote, got work done. So I was like, No, I'm getting Botox before we start filming. And there was like one or two scenes they used from our pilot in the first episode. And my forehead's moving.

But up until last season, I've had Botox every single episode. And then last season I was breastfeeding. So I couldn't have Botox. And I would just like do these little tricks and pull my hair tight in certain parts to kind of give you that lift. Oh, my God. You don't even need that. Thank you.

Letting me wait. I didn't get Botox until after I started the show. Yeah. Because I got, I didn't, I mean, I don't know. I just didn't,

you know, I wasn't in that world. I feel like it was still kind of new back then too. I mean, it wasn't so big back then. Right? No, I feel like I first heard about it because I think Kim Kardashian got it It was kind of new back then, too. Yeah, it wasn't so big back then, right? No, I feel like I first heard about it because I think Kim Kardashian got it

like the second or third season, and then people were like, oh my God, she's gotten work done. And I'm like, wait, is Botox getting work done? And then I looked into it, and then when we got our show, I was like, oh, I need to get the Botox. I'd rather have resting bitch face

than like crazy Disney expressions. Bitch face? That's me. Letty Maldonado wants to know for both of you, what is something you wish you knew sooner? Wish I knew sooner about anything? Yeah, I guess about anything. Botox. Yeah.

Yeah. yeah um I mean I wished like I watched the way I looked Sheena in season one compared to now I wish I knew how to do my makeup better yeah oh my god same like makeup has evolved so much yeah like so crazy like it's so like if I look at my face, like when I first started the show compared to now, it's like, I mean, now I know how to do my makeup. I did not know how to do my makeup back then. And I even think like the whole, even Priscilla did my makeup so different than now. Yeah, totally. Same here. What is the best piece of advice that you've given your kids and that you want to give them for future? Be a good person. Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter how much you have or what you have

or anything like just it doesn't matter if you have everything. If you're a shit person, then nothing else matters. So I think that's the biggest thing that Josh and I always are like, especially here in LA. I mean, you know, she, I mean, you know, teachers, that's just like, it's easy to get caught up in that. I think it's just be a good person. Like have a good heart. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's of course that, you know, live in your truth. Don't, you know, always believe in yourself. If you want something, strive for it. You know, don't think you can't do anything like, you know always believe in yourself if you want something strive for it you know don't think you can't do anything like you know you could do anything you put your mind to it and that's it you know be strong and that's it yeah yeah well you two ladies are amazing women amazing mothers and

i'm so thankful we finally got to get some shenanigans together new episodes of namaste bitches is every Wednesday Wednesday yeah I don't know when it's coming out yep every Wednesday baby I'm like this is it was so fun I know hey Sheena how many episodes have you done of my podcast yeah how many do you think five Five and a half years, whatever that equals. Oh my God. Isn't that crazy? Teresa, I think our episode seven is coming out. You've been doing this five and a half years?

Yeah. Wow. I started it. Yeah, it's been, is it four and a half? Five and a half. I think I started this show beginning of 2018. So I'm going on to five years. I feel like I was doing side piece forever.

And that's not even two years. I was going to ask you how long you're here. How long is it? I mean, literally we are seven, seven episodes in. Like that's, that's crazy. Like you going here, we're, we haven't even hit double digits yet. Yeah, no, it's crazy. I know I've been doing this is my third home now for the show, but it's the best one I have loved your media. I started at podcast one where you ladies are. And yeah, it's been a fun journey for sure.

Teresa, is there any I know I know how it is with Bravo. Obviously, we're in the same kind of job. But is there any tea you can give us for the upcoming season?

Oh, for me? Yeah. Well, I kind of did. I did already. I told you the season 13. It was hard

season for me again. It's like I can't wait to get an easy season. Your wedding special will be

nice. Yeah. I'm excited. Your wedding special will be nice. Yeah. I'm excited for the wedding special. That's the first time since season one and two that I've actually enjoyed being on television. I mean, I did enjoy, I didn't even enjoy Ultimate Girls Trip because that came up again. You know, family thing. So I've enjoyed Dancing with the Stars. That was like, that was fun but

again you know but it's like yeah it was it was just stressful because like this was like the time in my life that I'm like oh my god I thought you know like there was you know the was at the end of the rainbow you know there's where how does it It's gold. No, I don't know what I was trying to say. I know what you're trying to say. Now I'm trying to think. Like finally, I, you know, I got that. Yeah. You won.

You win. There's a rainbow. Yeah. Yeah. The light at the end of the tunnel. Right. I'm fine. I'm so happy.

And like, everything's amazing in my life. And then my only family members are like giving me a hard time. Like it's just, it's just mind blowing. It's just very sad, everything. So that's the only thing that was hard for me. Cause like, you don't mind finding when a stranger, but when it's a family, like that's like, that's not something that I want to do. I've never wanted to do that. I wish everybody could have, I mean, you guys, you see my parents, Sheena, you're solo type. You could kind of tell how we were raised. We were raised like so close. And unfortunately, I guess, and when I say fame and money ruined my family,

meaning it's that my, you know, my brother and Melissa wanted to become famous. And I guess. And when I say fame and money ruined my family, meaning it's, it's, it's that my, you know, my brother and Melissa wanted to become famous. And I guess they, you know, they didn't mind throwing me under the bus to become famous. And the money is that they like the paycheck. So that's like, I want to clear that up. When I say fame and money ruined my family, it was like that. That that. I'm explaining it. So do you understand what I'm saying now? No, totally. Some people don't think they get it.

It was like this, you know, like I started this TV show and it's like, imagine your brother and your sister-in-law come start working at your job and you don't even know about it. And then they start saying these nasty things to you that you're like, what the hell is going on? Yeah. And then how should you leave your job when that was your job no totally and that's see that's where I was then it's like so why should I step away from my job when this was my job yeah because like no you shouldn't have and

I mean you make the show you are a fucking star everyone knows that who watches the show Andy Cohen knows it this is I mean you're the reason this show has been on for so long when you weren't on it there was no show let's let's remember that yeah I mean I guess yeah I know thank you I know that was I was honored for that it was a really long pause that there was no Jersey because Teresa wasn't available to film. I was honored for that. And like, I'm so grateful, you know? Yeah. That's it. So I can't, you know,

I'm not looking forward to season 13 because of course I got to relive everything, but I am looking forward to my wedding. I want to see it too. Cause you know, I'm sure I missed some stuff because I was taking pictures. So I can't wait to see, you know, everything that, you know, that they filmed. And like, I was excited about that. And I did it for the fans, you know, cause I wasn't sure if I was going to film it. And then people were like, and then I was thinking, I was like, even a lot of people say you can't let your fans down. They want to see your happy ending, but it's not my, it's not my ending it's my new

beginning awesome yeah so my happy ending to a new beginning totally it's your fairy tale and i cannot wait to watch it yeah and when you're still on the scene yeah but teresa you know she can't talk about anything but finally when the stuff starts freaking airing because you know how it is she not like you can't say anything so when the stuff starts airing we can finally freaking talk about it too oh yeah listen namaste like we'll talk about it obviously in our show too i just don't want our namaste bitches to be that's all we talk about is housewives like i want to talk about real life like what's really going on and like you know melissa's like, my life. Cause then, and I think that's a good thing talking about everything. Cause then other people could relate to us and then they could write in, ask us questions. They could teach us something that

I'm like, Oh my God, really? I didn't know that. Like, I love doing, and I love going on other people's podcasts. And then eventually we're going to have people on our podcast. Cause like, it's great. Like, you know, it's like, I don it's like I don't know I love that I love it I really do therapeutic definitely yeah no it really is and like I used to be the type that I used to not want to I never would ask questions because I don't know why I just didn't and she doesn't like to talk no but my point is sometimes like when I think it's a good thing to ask questions or if you don't know something because then like then you could get the answer from somebody else or somebody inside exactly because like we were going through our legal stuff

we kept it all hush hush because that's what our lawyers told us to do and i wish we would have talked about it more because if you know so many other people go through legal steps and they could have guided us in a better direction. I don't know. I feel like that's, you know, it's good learning. Yes. So it's like, you know, I'm just saying, don't, it's good to share because you always, you know, you could find out something that you didn't know. I agree. And that's the beauty about our job is when, you know, we're all going through similar life experiences.

Ours are just on a public platform. But if by sharing our story, we're able to help even one person, I think we're doing a great fucking job. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Well, we got into shenanigans with the namaste bitches, Teresa,

Melissa. Thank you so much for being here. I can't wait to see y'all soon in LA. And like I said, new episodes of namaste bitches every Wednesday, check them out. Thanks ladies. Thanks.

I love, I love your podcast name too. Sheena. Thanks. I came up with it. I love it. I love it. Thanks. I'm your podcast name too, Sheena. Thanks. I came up with it. I love it. I love it. Thanks.

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