Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Olivia Flowers is Charming

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

This week, Olivia Flowers joins Scheana in the studio to address the rumors that she won’t be returning to “Southern Charm” for the very first time. What does she think of Austen’s new girlfriend? Does she have any plans to make amends with Taylor? How’s Kathryn Dennis doing? And which Bravolebrities did Olivia have a run-in with recently at the Charlotte airport? Plus, what did Scheana think of Rachel’s recent comments about missing their friendship? Tune in to find out! Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @oliviabflowers The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, July 12th.Episode Sponsors:Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V.® when you go to LIQUIDIV.com and use code HONEY at checkout.Go to Quince.com/honey for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.You can find all the new, decadent scents of Cremo Women’s Body Wash at Walgreens and CVS OR CremoCompany.comDon’t miss the season premiere of The Serpent Queen, July twelfth only on STARZ and the STARZ app.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a place where people from every stage of life can come for advice, new perspectives, and to feel a little less alone. Whether I'm recording by myself or bringing along a friend, we will explore topics ranging from relationships and mental wellness to social media and entrepreneurship. Tune in to Note to Self every week for the sisterly advice you didn't know you needed and raw conversations you've always wanted. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Okay, cool. I knew you were going to wear a hat. I was like, she's going to wear this cute little black hat.

It's either going to be the leather one or something. Yeah, the leather one. I actually need to find a new one. I've had so many people ask me, where did you get that hat? I have no idea. I've had it for 15 years and it's now finally starting to like come apart. It's not real. And I have no idea where I got it from.

The tag inside is so faded. It looks like it says DKNY, but I don't think it does. As much as you've moved around, you still have all like all your stuff. I keep my hats intact. But that one I've just worn a lot. But yeah, the hair color right now is. I like it. Are you just wanting to go darker?

Yeah, I just want it back to my natural color. Why is that so difficult? Or you just don't... Just because I bleached so much of it. So now getting it back to the brown, it's like the blonde keeps poking through. I do like the blonde. It's like a little sun kiss,

especially in the summer. It was fun. But then I wanted to actually look like Summer, my daughter, and have the same hair color. And when I came home from the salon, she's like, Mommy, we match. And now it's faded again. So anyway, welcome back to Shenanigans because today we are joined by my beautiful friend, the gorgeous blonde, Olivia Flowers. How we doing? Good. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming back. It's been a minute. Of course, I know. I was just thinking that first

time I came back, it was like very last minute. And I asked you if I could borrow like a Shenanigans sweatshirt or something. I threw my hair up. I was like, wow, I really just ran in. Was that your first podcast? Uh-huh. Okay. I thought so. That's my very first podcast. I love popping podcast cherries here at Shenanigans. You popped mine. You were really good at it too, like filled the space very well. Oh, well, thank you. Hopefully I can do the same today. Yes, please. I need all the help. So how long are you in LA? I know you just got in last night. What do you have planned for the week? I am leaving on Thursday. I'm actually going over to see Allie tomorrow. We're just gonna get some little

Content do a little shoot together and I was originally coming for the SPs and are like coming Oh, that's some of those events and then I got this brand new last minute That's in Cape Cod and they know they're literally on the 12th in the morning So I was like, okay, I'm gonna go to Cape Cod. Yeah, for sure. It's cutting a little short, but. Okay, fun. Yeah. Oh my God, the ESPYs takes me back to when I first moved to LA.

One of my first like odd jobs I did, I was the girl at the gifting suites who got to carry everyone else's bags. Oh my gosh. But let me tell you, the amount of athletes and celebrities I got to meet at these events. And how old were you?

Especially the ESPYs, 22. Oh, what a good time. So I would just like go and meet the star quarterback. And I would be the one carrying his bags, though. And I'm like, I get it. It's my job. But like, you're the muscly one. They had so many bags and so much free shit.

And I'm like, wow, that's so cool. How'd you get that job? Was it just like a honestly I don't know I think a friend of mine was just casting girls to look pretty and carry bags for athletes I would definitely carry their bags I would like to draw my number and yeah it was a lot of fun I've got some good stories from my SP days so anytime I hear about the SPs I'm like like, I remember that. I got stuck in an elevator with LeBron James

going up to a party and I was like, oh my god. Welcome to LA. Not that, not like stuck, but just like, you know, when it stops on so many floors and you feel like you're stuck, but it was like all the way to the rooftop from the lobby. So that was cool.

That is cool. Anyway, what have you been up to? Give me an update since the last time I saw you. I mean, just a lot of moving around. I feel like you can relate to this after filming. You just kind of want to get out of Dodge and like decompress and travel and spend time with everyone you hadn't seen in a while. So I did that. And then I'm not on this new season so I got yeah I gotta ask you about that so I have a lot more free time but yeah no I mean I was super bummed I think like a lot of people think it was the choice like I made the choice like I have this new relationship and I'm like choosing another path but I got the call like a few weeks before

filming and it from the production company and it was just kind of like asking the questions like you don't really seem to be in Charleston that much we're noticing on your Instagram you're traveling you know you're in Texas you got this new boyfriend and just seems like you've chosen a different path and I was like I don't think it's choosing a different path I'm just kind of living my life right you know mind you at the time my parents had just officially moved to Texas and I was wanting to be like closer to them yeah and boyfriend thing just happened very randomly and you know I I'm really glad that I did go off and do that like he was the best part that came out of that year and so but I just had I known it was like working against me or right making people

think that I wasn't there choosing a different path, you know, maybe would have, I wish there'd been a little bit more communication there with it. Yeah. Because I was really bummed. I mean, I think that's the part I'm most bummed about. I wanted to have another season to get to be more me, you know, last season was very heavy. And I was honestly just trying to keep my head above water. And I was looking forward to like having another one and getting to be a little bit more myself, show my personality and, you know, exploring the new friendships and all of that. So, yeah, I was I was super bummed about it. But yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. Actually, I'm like, OK, we could just rip the bandaid off. We'll just get right into it. But when the Bravo audience saw you last at the season nine reunion loved when you just dropped that

C-bomb, by the way. I made several calls to my parents. But it's like, I mean, you had just lost your brother. You have the betrayal of, you know, one of your closest friends, your ex-boyfriend. And I felt like you came out of that as someone to root for someone the fans were invested in. And you know, like your story was going to continue from there. So when I heard you weren't coming back, I was like, but but she's like the new star of this show. What do you mean she's not coming back? And I feel like there have been a lot of rumors, you know, was this your choice? Was it, you know, a surprise to you? So I don't know how much you can say, but. Yeah, I mean, I it wasn't my choice. I was a little thrown off by it, especially with just,

you know, how the last season went. I feel like I really gave everything I could given the circumstance, you know, and so I was definitely disappointed. But I mean, mind you, Charleston wasn't the happiest place for me at that time. My friend group had completely changed after filming. My house, you know, brought back some difficult memories. My parents were in Texas. So of course, I wanted to take that beat, especially, you know you know for filming you just want to take a break and 100% that's I mean that's really all that was had I known it was you know working against me or it was coming across a certain way I definitely wish there had been more open communication leading up to it so I could have explained yeah or but yeah I know I was super bummed I was really

looking forward to having a season just a little less heavy. And I mean, I watched last season back and it's just like emotional blackouts. Like I there's conversations I don't even really remember. There's conversations I'm having that I didn't care to have. My brain was so elsewhere. That's very normal. Just so you know, like in this world, that's not normal whatsoever. The emotional blackouts are so real and then you get caught up for it like you don't remember and i'm like it's a real thing literally every reunion i get home and my mom goes how was it and i'm like i don't know just like were you drinking like what do you mean you don't know i'm like no i just emotionally blacked out emotionally blacked out

i like literally walked away from that reunion just remembering I threw out the C word and I was like, yeah, great. But you just the way you delivered it. I was seeing red. Yeah. Red. And that's what's great for reality television. But I can definitely empathize with you on that. Obviously, I have been on every season, but I got those same phone calls post pandemic when I was living in San Diego for a while. And it was like, well, you know, if we do another season, are you actually going to be in LA? You know, do you really, you're talking on your podcast about how you live in San Diego. And it was like this big thing about how I didn't live in LA anymore. I'm like, y'all, my doctors are in LA. I'm going to be renting an apartment in LA just because I also

have a vacation home in San Diego. I've been living in, I haven't had a reason to be in LA. I'm going to be renting an apartment in LA just because I also have a vacation home in San Diego I've been living in. I haven't had a reason to be in LA. I come up for my doctor appointments. I was pregnant. It was a great place to live during the pandemic, to have my pregnancy, to do a sunset beach walk every single day. It didn't mean I was disconnected from LA. I even, I saw a clip online today where Raquel on her podcast said that she like sincerely misses our friendship and going down to San Diego and hanging out with my daughter. And when I heard her say that, I mean, I get it because, you know, there are things about her friendship that I miss, but things just changed so much, you know,

and they would never be the same, especially, you know, like once the court system got involved, that just put it on a whole other level. But when she said that, I was like, damn, you know, like I do miss those times too, because I was not disconnected from my friendships or relationships in LA. People came down to visit me. I came up for my appointments and all of that. But when it came time to do another season, it was like, but are you, I'm like, do you want to see my lease? Right, no, I said the same thing.

I was, I literally just got in another place with a friend downtown. And I was like, I actually have two places in Charleston right now that I'm living in. So I couldn't be more here except for, yeah, taking the space for my sanity. Yeah. But yeah, I did see that Raquel said that.

I wanted to ask you about it. Yeah, no, it got sent to me almost immediately after being posted. Do you just like tense up anytime something from that situation pops up in any way? I feel like I'd have mad PTSD. Yeah, because you never know what someone's going to say. And so many of us have platforms outside of the show now where we do have more freedom and editing control to put out whatever we want. So you never know what's going to be said.

And when I heard that, you know, she said she sincerely missed me. It was nice to hear that instead of, you know, her trashing me. Right, right. So I feel like there has been a lot of time that's passed that now you can look back and reflect on some of those times and have regret but you know we just have to move on live our lives and yeah but that was not what i was expecting to hear oh just jolt every time i saw one of their names pop up oh my god i know no literally it's like even we're not filming, it's still my for you page. I can't hit not interested enough. It's like my phone will just hear me talk about someone. And it's like, did you want to see more of this person? Like not interested, not even a little

bit. No, I need to go back to looking up like pictures of babies and bows and stuff. My for you page three years ago was just filled with baby clothes. How much has changed? Yeah, a lot has changed. But OK, well, I have so many things I want to talk to you about. We're going to take a quick little break and we'll be right back. With the Summer Olympics in full swing, hydration is key for athletes and fans. I don't know if you're a gymnastics fan like I am, but literally just watching the Olympic trials has inspired my daughter to start some gymnastics classes. And also I'm obsessed with the swimming. Although I can't say that watching the track and field events inspires me to go for a run, just not really my thing. But you know what is my thing?

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Like, were you relieved at all or were you just disappointed? No, I mean, I was pretty bummed. Yeah, disappointed. I, you know, my first season on, I came on and had the whole Austin love interest going on. And then this, the next season was obviously very heavy. So I was looking forward to being able to like have more of a voice for myself. I felt like

I'd really established myself on the first two seasons to where I can come in and be my own and just kind of have more fun with it. Obviously be involved with the drama, like that's a given, but like just have the opportunity to kind of show my personality and show who I was and not be attached to like a love interest or like a shitty friend situation. And so that was like the most disappointing for me.

But I, you know, like I don't get to tell my story on charm this go around but like it's open doors for me to be able to do that on other platforms and I get to come and do this and you know I'd love to be able to kind of create something like similar um myself like a web series or vlog you know and just kind of get to be just show a bit more like I really hate to be looked at as like the ex-girlfriend or like the girl that couldn't get over a drunken kiss. And it's just all so much of like who I am came down to like edit. And so in that sense, I guess relieved. But overall, yeah, overall bummed.

Yeah. Hopefully like the doors not closed for good. You know, I'm really grateful for everything that's come of it. Yeah. And I have good relationships with with everyone for the most part. But I never want to, you know, close the door on it for good. No. And I don't think you burned a bridge, you know, so I don't think the door is closed. It was just like, OK, we're going to go in a different direction right now. We'll see if it works. Probably won't. But, you know, I think that Bravo tends to do that sometimes. And it's just like you never know who's going to be like the sacrificial lamb. It's like, well, let's see if we can do a show without Olivia. Let's see if we can do a show without Stassi.

Let's, you know, it's like it does happen across a lot of the shows. But I remember you saying that, like I texted you and all this is going on. I was like, has this ever happened? Like, do you know what's going on here? Can you give me some insight? So no, I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, it was. I was just like, what? Like I went from feeling, you know, pretty confident and excited

for the next part of it to then being just kind of a little blindsided. So thank you for saying that. And I will say it does as much of a bummer as it is in the moment when you do look at it from a different perspective, it can open up other doors to other opportunities like starting a youtube channel you know i did that in the pandemic when there was no show on i was still showing my life stassi has a couple of podcasts now and she has her patreon and like she's been able to do things after the show so i definitely feel like keep putting yourself out there yeah the. The fans still want to see your story. They still want to hear what you're up to. So any content you can put out

and you never know. Southern Charm season 11 might come knocking on your door or there's an ultimate girls trip that we all go on together. You know, I just keep manifesting. I know it doesn't have to be Housewives. Like there's so many people on this network who could go on vacation together. Speaking of Housewives, I was in the Charlotte airport and looked up and Sutton, Kyle, and Garcelle. Oh, no way. And luckily they recognized me from BravoCon, but it was just

so random. Like, Charlotte airport. And I was like, hi. Like, what are y'all doing on this side of town? But yeah, they were in Augusta filming. I guess that's Sutton's family's area. augusta filming oh i guess that's oh right yeah i was gonna say that's where she's from do you see them much like kyle i mean it's random sometimes like i'm friends with some of them so there will be the ones i keep in touch with and go to dinner and then others who i see at a bravo con event or certain things are you know i have them on the

podcast or whatever them forever like i was i remember seeing you and kyle talking at bravo con i was like oh like she they go back i've known kyle yeah since her second season what yeah so i literally remember kyle bringing alex baskin who started our show into villa blanca and i remember what table they sat at i remember waiting on them. They ordered their like cheese balls, goat cheese balls. Yeah, but I remember like the first time I met her and she had a daughter who were about the same age, Farrah. And at the time, everyone was just like, oh, my God, you look so much like Kyle's daughter. And so I felt like that just kind of made us have this connection from the beginning. So I'm like,

I totally look like I could be your daughter. Yeah, no, I remember hearing that. I think. Yeah, I see it. So I feel like I try to keep in touch with as many of my Bravo famine friends as possible. And I know. Wait, who did you know when you joined the show? Because you did have some friends on the show, right? Yeah. So I knew Leva. She's like a family friend. She's actually the one that like brought me on.

Okay. I knew Catherine and I had like met Craig and Shep like out at bars before, but like friendships was Leva and Catherine. How is Catherineatherine have you seen her recently i have i actually was with her the week before last okay she came over and we did some filming and she's she's actually really good and like talking to her about things and having her open up about because you know she never really did any kind of press or interviews or podcasts when she was off the show. And so like talking to her about how that was and like she was just saying

it was such like a men and you can probably relate to this because you've been doing it like so long. But yeah, she's just like, I felt like someone took like after the show, I was just kind of like drop back down on earth and then was like expected to like figure it out. Like she was like, I've kind of like had to like find my new identity. Like I was so attached

with this show for so long, like age 19 and up. And then all of a sudden, she's gone. I didn't realize she was that young when she started. She's an OG of it too. And so she was just like

opening up about like how that was like mentally for her. And then to feel like you're so important so wanted and everyone's interested in you just suddenly like okay you're not wanting more bye like she was like that did something my mental and like I had to take time for myself and she really seems like she's done that and she just like has this energy that I've never seen her have before of just like wanting to like keep that momentum going and get back out there and

like revamp her Instagram so I was helping her with content and I just hope she like finds her way back into like doing things like this because she's so funny she's so funny she's so smart she's so creative and I just think that got kind of suppressed after being off the show yeah and having to like take that time to find herself. But she's good. She's an incredible mom and she's really good. Yeah. Hopefully you'll have

to have her soon if she comes out here. Yeah. No, I keep in touch with her. Okay. We had talked literally it was like the week before

all of the stuff happened with her recently and I was like, I just talked to her last week. I know. So I'm like, I hope she's doing okay. She really is.

She is. And it's just, we just get, you last week. So I'm like, I hope she's doing OK. She really is. She is. And it's just we just get, you know, we see the headlines and like stuff. But like when you talk to her, it's just it's another level. So I hope she does get to that place of being ready to like come out and be Catherine again. Yeah, definitely. She's doing really good. Yeah. No, it is a crazy whirlwind that we're in.

And then just even the time that, that you know the pandemic and we're not on it it's like wait what yeah i feel like the pandemic really hindered my social skills yeah no literally so i also heard there are rumors that leva and rod aren't returning this season. Is that true? Do you know? Leva, last I heard, is. Rod did not. There's two Rods. There's the Rod, I call him the Persian Prince. He's the one I went on a date with.

He's not coming back, which I'm so bummed about that too. Because again, he is so funny and so charismatic. And so him not being on was a bummer. But yeah, but yeah, I think Leva is, I think. Yeah. Unless something happened, I don't know. No, I don't know. Cause I mean, there's obviously Southern hospitality. Yeah, she just went straight into filming that.

They're filming that right now. When Craig was asked in an interview about the potential of you not returning for season 10, he said that he hopes that's not the case and said that he loves you, but noted Austin and JT would probably have a different answer. Why do you think Austin and JT get so riled up over you? JT, that, Austin, that's like an obvious. He gets riled up over every female that just walks his

path. But JT, that's interesting because JT was reaching out to me, really wanting me to come back. So I don't know what beef JT would have, but things like that change every day. So maybe something happened. Or just because he's close with Taylor. Yeah, that could have been it. I think Austin, he and I, our friendship just doesn't, we just exist now. There's no hate, there's no love, but it's just kind of like. But I mean, I know for a

fact Austin probably gave out the biggest sigh of relief that I wasn't coming back but I hear his new girlfriends on it or I don't know if they film or what but I met her um on a trip kind of right before reunion and I love her okay she is so sweet so cute so beautiful and I remember telling him brunette yeah I switched it up I remember telling him. Brunette. Yeah, I switched it up. I remember telling him. I was like, when you fuck this up, I would like to stay friends with her. Just FYI. Yeah, I love that.

She's super cool. We're keeping her. Yeah. I wonder if, you know, just after it was like Madison, you, Taylor, all these beautiful blondes. He's like, maybe I should try a brunette. Maybe that'll work out. Sure.

That's the problem. Yeah. What is the, I mean, I know Austin just as a friend. My mom and I literally, when we were there for Ariana's Broadway show, we ended up one night, Austin and Craig were there. We were with Kyle. We were all at a bar together.

We go back to the hotel. Austin's room is literally next to mine and my mom's. And we like well the bar is closed we'll just keep the party going cracked open his mini bar and the three of us just hung out oh my gosh how random i get the appeal he is charming like he's not someone if i was single i would ever date so is that because you've seen too much of the show or is that just like in general he's just not your type no in general he's not my type i mean he's tall but i don't know that's where he gets you yeah no literally that's where she got me that's right but um no i don't i just don't think he's really my type but it's like he gets all of these beautiful women, but his behavior never changes. Do you think with Audrey

that maybe he's finally starting to change? Or like, what is the appeal? Is it just the bad boy? I, for me, like looking back on it, I always say I wish Austin and I just started and stayed friends. Because like on the friendship side, like we're so good.

Like we have so much fun together. You know, hung out no totally it's like yeah the romance things and when that's when things kind of messed up so that's my regret with us I'm like man we really should not have even gone down that romance side but with been there done that you know it happens yeah but I don't know I mean I don't know if like his therapy is paying off and he's like seeing the light. Hopefully, maybe. But I don't know. She's really cool.

That's a really good question. I don't know. Yeah. Did you feel like you were able to forgive him easier than Taylor? Like, did it seem like less of a betrayal from him? It did. I know that was like a big question before. Like, why can you forgive him and not Taylor?

But at the time it was just, I think I did like kind of expect it from him and not in the sense that I was like, oh, okay, so it's fine. You can come back in my life. But like at that point when I decided to like mend things with him, I had tried so much over and over with Taylor.

Like we had had so many conversations off camera where I was just like, hey, if you're lying about this, like it's going to come out and I'd rather you just like rip the bandaid off. So at that point, I had just kept, she had kept lying to me over and over and Austin just stepped in at the right time. Like when I was super vulnerable

and I just kind of leaned into that friendship because I felt the one with Taylor was just like fading. I mean, yeah, when you guys are friends on and off camera, you know, it's like she's a shoulder for you to cry on. But then also is like going behind your back doing that. How did you find out? It was when Shep came over to my house and he was like he was like, and I, for the first time, saw Shep a little shooken up. But I was like, I have never seen that.

So seeing Shep a little worried was like, and then him being like, this is going around, you know, I don't know. But like, do you think like him? That was like the first it was really put on. And then things just like spiraled from there. But that was the part that was so frustrating. It's like a lot of the viewers said like, get over it. It was just a kiss.

It was just a kiss. But it was just like, there was so much more. There were so many more conversations off camera too. More layers to it. I hated that. I was like going out as a girl who couldn't get over a drunken kiss.

I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so much more than that. That's, yeah, a drunken kiss is the least of my worries. But was it only a drunken kiss? I think that's just going to be forever. forever everyone's question i personally don't think so i don't know what world two drunk people would would be hanging out and they're not i mean i wouldn't be able to do that right if i'm with someone i'm attracted to and drunken kiss like that's why i literally

was at the point where i was like taylor you can date him but just be honest like you can have him like i was at that point so that was yeah i don don't know. That'll go down in a Bravo lock. The story they're sticking to. You never know. Some shit comes out of the woodwork like a decade later. Oh my gosh. So what is the status of your relationship with Taylor? I mean, we're not friends.

How we left it in New York was the last time we saw each other and spoke. I do think, you know, with the time that's passed and like we both have something very difficult that we've like gone through, I think it's in New York. I was very much like the door shut. We're done with this moving on on but i think the time's passed now to where you know if we ever have a conversation i would i would be open to it i think it would be a new friendship it wouldn't ever be what it was but i it's just so much so many more important things are going on that it's like it's not worth holding on to the grudge and i do miss that friendship kind of like what you're saying, like with past friendships,

you do miss it. And I don't know. I hate knowing that like she's going through the exact same thing I went through and like we don't have any kind of friendship with that. But I would certainly be open to like having again and not even just for the show's sake, like without cameras, you know.

I'm like with the show, like that would have forced us to like be around each other. And it probably expedited the recovery a lot sooner. But then filming started and I wasn't on it. So now we really just don't see each other. Yeah, that was going to be my next question. If you were a part of this season, I mean, I'm sure you would have had those conversations. And I would have been in a much more open place to have that conversation than I was in New York. Yeah, for sure. When her brother passed away, did you guys speak much about that? we hadn't talked or anything but it just I was like I just wanted to be there for her and that was like what was so weird and awful about it it's just like on that real level I wanted to be there

for her and let her know I was there and then it's just like you know how it goes like reunion stuff comes back also free surfaces and then it just like created that separation derailed it all again but we yeah we did talk and like she texts me on anniversaries I do the same for her and our moms still talk our our friends as well so there's a lot more tied there yeah I feel like you know time does heal a lot of things and whether it's on camera or off camera yes there was the drunken kiss and the betrayal but sometimes when bigger life things happen, you know, you both experienced a tremendous loss that, you know, is just it's so tragic. So hopefully with some time, you know, you guys are able to have those conversations without necessarily the pressures of filming or feeling like those certain things. Right. And I think we will. I feel like we're we're getting there.

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versions of ourselves. And it's like, it's just like a light went out in the house, you know, and they have such a strong marriage and to like see them really lean on each other and get through it is just so admirable for me to see. And I, that's like what gives me the most comfort in the world is that they have each other, but they're just, yeah. I mean, it's just a different world we're in now. Like I, it's like the weirdest thing to try to explain. And they grieve very differently like we all do. And so

kind of having to navigate that has been tricky. But I mean, I feel like when stuff like this happens, it either breaks people up or brings them closer together. And I'm just so grateful that for us, we've always been a close family, but now more than ever, we've pulled through and just honor of him.

Now, that is great when you can just come together, you know, because you do see that so often when someone passes away, when a parent passes away and then the siblings fight. And so at least, you know, the family being able to come together, know that he's no longer suffering and in pain. Yeah. And like they're very, you know, we're all very strong in our faith and like knowing that and just like any time that people reach out that knew him all their stories are the same like he helped them in some way or another so just like it's obviously bittersweet hearing those stories but just to know that that's the impact he like

left in this world and that's what he was known for is just being so kind and helping others. It's just that's all anyone really wants when they lose someone, I feel like, is just to continually hear about them and the impact they had on other people. And with the show, it got really difficult because something so personal and difficult, but then having to like talk about it or like anytime I even like post something, it just felt like I was sharing something so personal with the rest of the world that it was kind of tricky. Like I had to have like a lot of conversations with my parents just like, you know, like when the Lyme disease foundation like reached out and wanted me to tell his story

for their foundation or something like I I don't know like it's not my story to tell and like I didn't know how my parents felt like I didn't know if they were ready for him to be the example like you know the tragic example of something and so, that was something really hard that I had to learn because a lot of incredible people have reached out with like the Lyme's Iliad Foundation and all this and wanted me to like come and speak or like give a quote. And it's like, I want to do that because I know the impact it'll have. But I also just felt like just like with sharing it on TV, tv like I don't know if that's where we are yet as a family and like our grief process if we're like ready so that was like a really hard balance totally but my parents have been yeah they've been supportive it is great

though that you have that support and you know you can talk to them and be open about that and you know just it's like I feel like we've all heard about Lyme disease, but there's also not a lot of understanding on how it affects the people who have it. How long did he suffer from this disease? So they like take it back or he started showing symptoms when he was starting college. What are those symptoms like? Very fatigue, very dizzy, and just like you have brain fog, but to an extreme. And that's what's so difficult to diagnose it

is because it mimics several other diseases. So like if you have like psoriasis or like anxiety, like it just heightens all of these other problems that you have. And it's just hard to pinpoint exactly what it is. So like, they don't know exactly, a lot of people don't offer testing for it or something. He went to several, several doctors. I mean, my parents traveled all over the world to get him help. And so many people, especially traditional doctors would say, you have anxiety, here's some Xanax, like it's in your head, like we're not seeing, you know, they don't do the proper testing. And so, and I just remember having

conversations with him and he would come, he never liked to talk about it, but when he did, he would say things like he was having aches and he wasn't, I mean, he wasn't, he was on a golf scholarship and had to drop out because he just like did not have the energy anymore. And not going through that yourself, it's like hard to understand it when you're and I'm like looking at him I'm like well you look fine I don't get it you know and so so to answer your question he got it symptoms started showing early age 18 19 but he didn't get a proper diagnosis until like late 20s and by that time he had already been given all kinds of like prescriptions pain meds just to like band-aid it and not really look into it.

So that's why I really want to work with these foundations and organizations that just devote all their time into giving proper testing and education, not only for us, but in the medical field, because that's what was missing for Connor. Are there any misconceptions or info relating to Lyme disease that you would like people to be more aware of? Just that, you know, like I said, ask the questions, like don't take the response of like you have anxiety or like you're sleep deprived, like those things like really look into the problem. And just because you don't understand or see someone's symptoms doesn't mean they're not there it's called the invisible disease for a reason and the longer it goes without being treated or even being acknowledged like the worst it gets and just

heightens all different kind of problems that you might already be suffering from. And the response from people when I started posting about it was just, I mean, overwhelming. Everyone had the same story. Like, thank you so much for talking about his problems. I have the same thing. I had to quit my job and I was just told, it's in your head, here's some Xanax, or you're anxious. And they had to like go to specialists.

Like this one lady had to literally travel out the country to a specialist just to find out that that's what it was. And by that time I'd been in her system five years. So it's just like, listen to your body and don't take no for an answer. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I think it's amazing that you are doing as much as you are and just, you know, spreading that awareness and just having people be, you know, more empathetic, sympathetic to just the understanding that if someone's battling something just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not going on. So I think that's really great that you're doing all of this too. Well, thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah. He'd be very proud of you.

Thank you. Well, I want to switch gears a little and talk about another man currently in your life. I know you don't post a ton. Not everyone knows his name, but Alex, your boyfriend. Alex, that's his name. Okay. So how did you guys meet? What can you tell me about him? met at a wedding i actually was going to this wedding as my dad's date because my mom last minute um couldn't go so i was like dad can't go to a wedding by himself he doesn't know how to be so flew to miami went with him and my dad was also doing business so he was like i'll meet you at the ceremony he was late i'm showing up to the ceremony by myself i'm in this like party bus by myself get dropped dropped off, walk up the church stairs, trip.

And I just look up and there's this very tall, handsome. And he's just like, can I walk you down the aisle? And I think I made a corny joke. Like, it's a little soon, but OK. He's like one of the groomsmen. But yeah. And so that was in Miami. And then he also happened to

be from Dallas which is where I grew up so it was just like perfect and met there and just hit it off and he's like been in I mean he's in Charleston more than I was in Dallas so yeah yeah um no I'm crazy about him he's one of nine what I know I know. I know. That's what I said when you told me that. Oh, my God. I was like, what? All, like, biological? No adoption? Are there twins?

Triplets? No, nothing. His mother was pregnant nine times. That's what I said. It was like your whole life. Oh, my gosh. And if you saw her, she looks like one of his sisters. She's, like, the most beautiful, tiny thing.

It's crazy. They're just such a genetically blessed family and they're all so I felt like I was like meeting the Cullens you know on twilight where I was just like absolutely when I first met them all they're all so sweet beautiful kind and just like I said he came in at a very difficult time in my life and like I just felt like you know I got like all these new siblings to be around and they all ask questions about Connor. Like that was one thing that I love about Alex.

Like he would constantly ask me questions like he wanted to know him as much as he possibly could. And like that just just stole my heart because I mean, I know it can be like an awkward topic. Sometimes people don't know if you want to, but he just he'd bring him up in casual conversation or he'd be like, do you think Connor would approve this outfit? Because he knows Connor is a huge fashion guy.

So just, I mean, and he's been there around my parents. They love him. I've never dated someone that my parents liked. Wow. So this is fun.

Sorry, exes. If you're listening. What do you think is different about Alex compared to other guys you've dated? He just has, like, a very big heart and no ego. Love that.

And everything is just so transparent. Like there's no games. There's no like reading between the lines or getting back at one another. It's just, he just has that huge heart and huge on communication. And yeah. Did you just kind of know like right away like oh yeah this is gonna go somewhere yes and I've never felt such a good feeling yeah that was

yeah I've never felt that way before and like told my mom and I introduced him to all the people you know all the people I'm close with my life and even they've all fell in love with them it's just it's new it's new territory dating someone that everyone likes i gotta say yeah but that's awesome i know it's such a nice change of pace you know in the relationship what does he think of the show has he watched so he had never seen it someone he was telling me he was like asking people about me at the wedding like who's that girl like blah blah and of course someone was like oh she's on a reality show and he was like oh she's crazy like but um so but no he watched a couple I watched like I made him watch a couple episodes and it was so funny he was like getting so into it and any scene where I was like getting mad or something he was like god I'd hate to be on

the other end of that like he was just so into it and he's so supportive like he I mean when all the show stuff was happening and they were calling like oh you have this it. And he's so supportive. Like, he, I mean, when all the show stuff was happening and they were calling, like, oh, you have this boyfriend, blah, blah. He's like, okay, what do we need to do? Like, he's just so down for, like, whatever, you know, I wanted at that time. And it was just full support. So he would have been down to film if you were on the season? He didn't want to.

He's, like, in banking, finance boy. So it's not his world. But he was very much like whatever I need to do to help. Like I need to come down there for like an all cast event or a party or something. I'll do that. Yeah. He wasn't like wanting to. Right. Yeah. But whether it was showing up to a cast event, he was supportive. I love that. Let's do what we got to do. Yeah. No, that's important when it's this crazy world we're in, you know, like I'm wondering how it's going to be on Summer House this season with Lindsay's boyfriend.

Oh, yeah. Baby daddy now. Yeah. She hasn't really announced who he is. He has a, you know, great career and I don't think he's going to film it all. So I'm like, that will be interesting. That will be interesting. A pregnant Lindsay with a mystery man.

How was Brock when y'all first got together with the show and filming and all that? Like, was that? He had no idea anything about it. Literally, we went to a music festival the day after we met and people were coming up asking me for photos and he was like, who is this girl?

Oh, funny. And then there was a story that he posted that i was in that his sister saw and was like what are you doing with sheena and he's like how the fuck do you know who sheena is and so then it was just kind of like okay well this is it and then six weeks later i was in australia and people were coming up to me in australia and he was like okay wait what no wait wait that's kind of fun yeah and then we came back and we were at the first bravo con and so he was just kind of thrown right into it first bravo he went to the first one in new york in 2019 oh my gosh alex saw that just on instagram and he was

like i had no idea yeah like that took things to a new level yeah so that i remember my mom texting me and was like how is he doing with all of this? And I sent her a video. We were at an after party and he got up on the bar and was like doing this dance. I was like, he's fine. And I was like, okay, he'll work. He'll fit in. That was like a huge test. It's like, can you handle this type of attention? And yeah, he fit right in. Yeah. I love him. I'm glad that you have one too. Thank you.

So what is next for Olivia Flowers? Well, like I was saying earlier, it's like web series kind of thing. I think you kind of are my inspiration because you had your vlog and like you said during COVID and stuff. And so much happens during filming that people don't get to see

like the funny, goofy moments, the bloopers. And I live for those. Like anytime I'm doing kind of like the brand deals and stuff I've I get better feedback when I post the bloopers yeah of it and so I just kind of had this idea of like wanting to do a web series and kind of showing like BTS of doing things like this um you know I had a conversation with Catherine that's going to be on it and filming with Allie. So I'm still getting to like dabble in the, you know, the filming of things, but in my own little world. And it's just fun, you know, like I know podcasts do great, but I just wanted to bring like the visual aesthetics. Totally. And so, yeah, it was just like a fun project,

just trying it and see how it goes. I love it. Well, everyone's going to be so excited to watch it to still get to see you in some form. And hopefully, you know, you never know what the Bravo future holds. I don't even know what mine is. So maybe we do something together. Love that. Love that. All right. Thank you for having me.

Thank you. It's always fun having you. I love seeing you when you're in L.A. I still want to get out to Charleston. I know. I hope you know that invitation is just always, always there. Please come. Don't come in the summer.

It's miserably hot. That's what I've heard. We're going to Orlando soon. And I'm like, to do Disney World or not? That is the question. Humidity. I know. Just prepare yourself.

Your skin will glow. It'll look great. My hair will be in a slicked bun the whole time. All right. Well, tell everyone, please, where they can follow you to see your future endeavors. My Instagram, OliviaBFlowers,

and then we'll have it up on YouTube. We're calling it Off Season. Ooh, I like that. It is not there yet, but it's going to get there. We'll get there. All right. Well, thank you so much. Thank you guys for listening and watching and we'll see you next week. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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