Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Q&A with Brock Davies and Cortney Erin

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

 This week, Scheana and Brock do another fun Q&A episode. They’re joined by Scheana’s sister Cortney who acts as the mediator as they answer listener questions. They talk about lo...ng it takes to forgive their cast-mates after a fight, why Scheana and Brock have decided not to do workouts together, the hardest thing about wedding planning and dealing with negative comments on social media. Also, what are their plans for baby number two?! Tune in to this week’s episode to find out.     Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana   Go to www.bollandbranch.com and use code shay at checkout for 15% off   Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. We are back in studio here at Dear Media, and it just feels so good to be in a studio again. I have my sister back, who's going to be the mediator question asker for this Q&A with myself and Brock. How are you, honey? I'm good, honey. How are you doing? I'm glad we have a mediator. Yeah. It actually helps to separate our conversations a little bit
Starting point is 00:01:11 and kind of helps me get to a point. Yeah. I'm long-winded when it comes to my answers. Yeah, I feel like I can tell either of you to shut up and neither of you will be offended. Totally. And I like when you add in your opinions. We did this a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:01:23 and people still had a lot of questions. So I was like, you know what? Let's do another Q&A episode. We can go back to the reunion a little bit, talk about some wedding planning, future plans for babies, whatever. There were a lot of questions. So can I start off before I get headlighted? No, there are no headlights here.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Like you've curated who went through these questions. Your sister did? Yeah. Okay. So we're there in the went through these questions? Your sister did? Yeah. Okay. So we're there in the headlights when these questions come out. So there's no pre-answers for this. I'm speaking for your guys' audiences. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Okay. She is their voice. And what I'm also going to do soon too is do an episode with the listeners' actual voices where we can go in the room, They can call in, ask questions. That's fun. They can have like a little phone here where they call in. Yeah. We can have some people zoom in,
Starting point is 00:02:10 like a shout out to our boy, Clarence. Clarence, buddy. He's so excited to do some shenanigans with us soon. So we'll get one of those episodes set up and yeah, looking forward to that. Well,
Starting point is 00:02:23 let's see your guys' faces. I'm here to support honey. And I'm so forward to that. Well, let's see your guys' faces. I'm here to support honey. And I'm so stoked to see you in studio. This is amazing for you and for your podcast. I really look forward to watching you grow and kind of like develop, but from growth means you need a five star reviews. You need people to repost it. So tell us what you like.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. And hit us with the good luck charms, you know, five stars would be great. Four stars is good. And then below that, just be honest. Yeah. And hit us with the good luck charms, you know. Five stars would be great. Four stars is good. Anything below that, just be honest. Right. Constructive criticism.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I always embrace that. It's just. Just don't lead with like, you know, Brock's bad. I get it. I get it. I'm opinionated. But I think you are also getting better. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Five star review. Brock's getting better. It's like, just skip the episodes of Brock's and if you don't like him that much. Exactly. He's not in every episode. Why are you torturing yourself again? If you don't like him, then just don't listen. Yeah, I'm a cup of, I'm not like, what is it?
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'm a fine wine. You're an acquired taste. Oh, I thought you were going to say I'm not everyone's cup of tea. That was it. Yeah, that's what you were starting to say, but then you went to go with the Lala acquired taste fine line and fine wine. Fine line by Harry Styles. I'm a fine to say, but then you went to go with the Lala acquired case fine line and fine wine. Fine line by Harry Styles. I'm a fine line, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I think I'm walking a fine line. Here we go. All right. Let's get into it. Okay. So there were a ton of questions about the reunion. So let's get those out of the way. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:03:38 How long does it take all of you guys to forgive each other after the reunion? Oh, it depends. If you're me, I'm over it that day, and then we all go out to dinner together. So animals. Okay. The fact that that is the culture, it is shockingly, I get it, but it took me a minute to get over it. Going into the reunion, I was fuming. Okay. And I wish I could have controlled myself and like carried my man, like kind of carried myself in a gentleman like fashion which would be amazing but i just didn't have it in me i'm sorry okay i binged six episodes of the of our show bang bang bang and it installed a little bit of fire in the belly and so i was ready to rock and roll but apparently that's not what you do at the reunion i don't know why you do that at the
Starting point is 00:04:23 reunion no one was doing it but me. Well, because everyone wasn't in person. The people who do that weren't there. I was the asshole the whole time. Yeah. Because I had things to say. Yeah. You did your job.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You did your job well. Yeah. It took a while to forgive everybody. I think I even apologized to Lala after seeing myself. Right. Then I was like, wow. Yeah, I was a bit of a dick but at the same time it's like so it took me took me like seeing myself took me that long to apologize
Starting point is 00:04:50 after which was a couple of months yeah see and i can even get in a fight with someone before lunch and then after lunch i'm like good with them yeah i just think it depends on the type of person you are like i get over things really quickly too. Yeah, it's just with this group, I mean, it's just easier to move on if it's something that's not that big of a deal. Like Charlie clapping in my face. I had a rosé at lunch and I was over it. Oh, you were over it?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah, I mean, it honestly, I think just depends on the situation and- The severity. Yeah, totally. Okay, Good answer. Good answer. Okay. Next question. Is there anything from the season that didn't air that you wish did? You, let me think. What about the rest of your engagement? I said that I think on a recent episode that and the babysitting were the two things that I was really bummed we didn't get to see the first half of the engagement because it was just such a heartfelt moment. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:44 the whole thing was, but that part was so good. Tom and Ariana babysitting, singing Summer, good as gold on acoustic guitar, but also Tom's birthday party. That was so much fun. Yeah. I want to jump around a little bit. I know you mentioned on the reunion, like your experience in the hospital after the birth with preeclampsia. Yeah. One of the questions was, can you share more on your experience with preeclampsia? Oh my God, I can't say it. With preeclampsia. I feel like that's something that you wish aired a little bit more this season
Starting point is 00:06:10 because you did talk about that at the beginning of the season. Yeah, that's a really good point. That is something that I talked a lot about all summer. Like the first thing that you and I filmed, we were sitting at the kitchen island and I was talking about how traumatic that entire experience was.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I mean, I'm so thankful I got induced because if I didn't, I literally could have died. Like it is that severe. It's not me being dramatic or exaggerating my blood pressure. I don't even know how high it was. It was high. I don't even want to say it because I feel like I'm wrong, but it was like it was 180 over high it was it was high I kind of I don't even want to say it because I feel like I'm wrong but it was like it was 180 over something like it was high that was like 200 and something over 180 or something it was ridiculous I don't think it would have been
Starting point is 00:06:53 over 180 but whatever it was it was like stroke level could have had a seizure could have actually died and I had so many women reach out to me after the reunion and share their stories and like some other women who their friends like passed away from it. And it was just like really, really scary, really traumatizing. So I do wish more of that was shown. I'm thankful as much was shown on the reunion as it was just because these are things that women need to know when they're pregnant to look out for. It was at my 40-week appointment, and there was protein in my urine,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and my blood pressure was high. And we just chalked it up to, well, I'm 40 weeks pregnant. I could have this baby at any moment. I'm freaking out. Like, I don't... I felt like I was never going to be ready. What was it? Protein shakes and just ready for a baby? Yeah. And a protein smoothie that morning or like the Greek yogurt, like whatever it was. Did you have a high protein
Starting point is 00:07:53 breakfast? I was like, I mean, yeah, more than usual. I usually come in on an empty stomach. They're like, that's probably all it was. But those are two telltale signs for preeclampsia or help syndrome. So I do wish that was shown more, but I'm thankful as much was shown as it was. And I do have these other amazing platforms to bring awareness and just spread that information. But that was literally traumatizing. I still can't talk about it without crying. You went through a lot, honey. I did. And then to have people coming at me so quickly after, I was like, I just went through not even just having a baby, but like everything else I went through. And then being on the blood pressure medication for so long after not being able to work out,
Starting point is 00:08:36 not feeling like myself, like it was really challenging. I mean, so many women are like, I don't know how you had a baby. And then three days after you got home from the hospital, we're filming a television show. They're like, I'm four months postpartum. And sometimes I can barely get off the couch. And I didn't have that luxury. I just went full force. That's what I was going to say. I felt like no one realized that it was that fast of a turnaround. I think Lala was genuinely the only person who truly understood that because she had not been through it as traumatic. But also she got induced three weeks early. So like that was traumatic in itself. You know, she didn't know what if Ocean's lungs were completely developed and you know, all of that.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So I think just having those similar experiences, obviously different, but still similar. She understood what I was going through in that moment. We both had crazy hormones going through our bodies. And I think that's one of the reasons that we were able to forgive each other so quickly and move on because we got what one another was going through when no one else did at all. Yeah, totally. And it's one of those things I feel like you can't really know until you have gone through it. And I mean, I wouldn't wish help syndrome or a miscarriage on anyone. So I don't want people to be able to relate in that way,
Starting point is 00:09:53 but just try to at least sympathize and understand like, wow, she just went through something really traumatic. Maybe I'm not going to be a bitch that she hasn't been present in my friendship. Yeah. Case in point, Charlie. Well said. Well, on a lighter note, I just knew you wanted to mention that. I felt like that was something that didn't air a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But on a lighter note, does the cast coordinate outfits for the reunion? We kind of, yes. So, I mean, production ultimately has like the final say. So we send in our top like three looks and then they kind of coordinate that together. But I already had my gold dress. So I had sent that to all the girls. I'm like, just so you know, this is what I'm wearing. I've had it for what? A year and a half, two years. Where was it from? They want to know that too. Meshki. Okay. Yeah. So I pulled it for the season eight reunion. Okay. And then when that ended up being Zoom, I was like, I'm not wasting this gown sitting in my house on Zoom. I am saving it for next season because there will be another
Starting point is 00:10:50 season. I was so optimistic. So I had that dress ready to go. So I had sent it to all of the girls and like, just saying this is what I'm wearing. So, you know, if we could try and coordinate, then we could all probably wear our first option if they look good together. And then Brock did not do that. And so his and James's first options were so similar that Brock didn't get to wear his. I was going to say, Brock, people had a lot to say about what you wore at the reunion. They said, why are Brock's pants never long enough? Why is his shirt always unbuttoned?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Well, I feel like that's just a preference because it's just feel comfortable with the pant look. It's the Peter Pan look, I guess. And the fact I just think that I'm comfortable like that. Personal style. Personal style. And then, yeah, I didn't. I planned. I had a pink suit lined up and then the same thing.
Starting point is 00:11:37 We sent it through. It was so similar. And it was I was like, oh, so that's why I couldn't wear that suit. And that was my go to. I was like, I'm not going to give him another option. So I actually got my shirt my silk shirt from somewhere cheap online and then walked up and they actually had another shirt laid out and then they're like, actually, we like that shirt you're wearing.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So you know what? It is what it is. And if people don't like my choice, that's okay. I don't like what you drink for coffee sometimes. Do you like what I'm drinking right now? That was a bit weird, but it's a good experience. It's a blueberry matcha. It's bomb.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I get it. I get it. It's earthy. And look, I'll touch on this one. I don't have clothes that fit me through the season. Like I'm not going to like sugarcoat it. We put on, and yeah, I said on my social media the other day, I'd put like 38 to 40 pounds on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It wasn't that much. And then we did the numbers and it was 20. It was 28 pounds I gained. So I gained 28 pounds in body fat. I know, and you're like 40 pounds. I was like, no, you didn't. Yeah, I felt like it. I'll tell you what, I felt like it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm officially no longer an XL. No, you're a double XL. I am a double XL. So yeah, you're right. My fashion choice is my fashion choice. And if it bothers you, that sounds like it's your problem, not mine. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Pretty much. I mean, yeah, I gained, obviously I had a baby, so it was a little different, but I still gained 55 pounds. Yeah, but you lost yours. Look at you. You're tiny, honey. Thank you, honey.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I've been working hard. I'm still carrying the dad weight. Work harder. Okay, I'm working on my father figure. Oof. Okay, well, speaking of your dress, they want to know, why would nobody switch sides with you?
Starting point is 00:13:04 So that also isn't just like, it's not like Charlie could have been like, oh, Sheena, I'm on your good side. Just swap me. I mean, they strategically seat us where they do. What Ariana and I couldn't understand is, so we originally were on our left side because that was the way our looks were with the slit on our dress. We said we should be seated on this side because that was what will look best to cameras. And I guess we were. And then when three people ended up joining via Zoom, they switched our sides. And I'm like, but I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:13:31 There's still four people on that side, four people on this side. Why can't us four be on that side and them four be on this side? And it was just like, shut up, Sheena. We don't care about your good side. I'm like, it's not just my good side. It's a valid point though.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But it's my entire look. Like I planned my look around being seated on this side and I let them know, here's my look. Here's how I'm doing my hair. You let all of us know, including myself. I know. In social media, I think you let everyone know. I was not happy about it, but here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:00 In hindsight, I'm glad that I was seated on my quote unquote bad side because I was able to see myself on camera in a side that I don't normally see myself. I always position myself to the left. And I was like, okay, it's not as bad as I thought. I need to have some more self-love and just not be so nitpicky about the things I'm insecure about. But I also was losing a lot of hair at the moment. Thanks to Nutrafol. It's growing back.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Shout out to them. But yeah, I've always just been more insecure shooting on the right side of my face. And especially when I started losing hair. Is it not exhausting knowing that when you go to film for nine years maybe 10 years you've been filming you position yourself I'm just really good at doing that I saw it I noticed it and then it becomes like my my tick it's my mind yeah it's a bad habit no I'm like honey you're gonna sit here for dinner I know where my cameras are I'm. I will try to be better about that. Watching back the reunion, I was like, okay, it's not as bad as I've thought. Yeah, I think, I think, I think it's so vain. It's so vain. I need to work on that more. But that was a good forcing me into
Starting point is 00:15:19 working on it moment. I like that. Yeah. Okay. So my next question is... Actually, before we get to the next question, let's take a little break. No one wants to cut corners on what's important and few things matter more than a good night's rest. So if you dream of comfortable sheets at a price that won't keep you up all night, like maybe your baby does, then look no further than bowl and branch. I know y'all have heard me talk about bowl and branch sheets before, and that's because they are the best. I have them in all three of my homes, LA, San Diego, Palm Springs. I got them in white because it just goes with my decor in every house that I have, but literally they're comfortable,
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Starting point is 00:16:40 when you use promo code Shay at checkout. That's bowlandbranch, B-O-L-L-A-N-D, branch.com use promo code Shay at checkout. That's bowl and branch B O L L A N D branch.com promo code Shay. Um, why did you guys switch drinks at the reunion? Apparently a lot of people caught that. Oh my God. So many people I saw on Twitter, they're like, wow, did anyone else notice Sheena drank her drink before they even did the toast? I'm like, actually Brock drank his drink. I didn't want to drink my drink because I still had a pump. What was your drink? Tom made up.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It was a summery's eve, remember? Oh, the summer's eve. Summer's eve. It was some kind of something. Some berry concoction, foamy thing. I drank my drink because I needed a bloody drink. Are you kidding me? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And then I realized, oh, we got a toast. I'm like, oh, stop drinking. And I was like, well, here, I don't want mine. I'm not going to drink it anyway. So I was like, swap me. And then I guess, oh, we got a toast. I'm like, oh, stop drinking. And I was like, well, here, I don't want mine. I'm not going to drink it anyway. So I was like, swap me. And then I guess that was interesting. Apparently people caught it. People would see that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 How did they see that? They saw it as like, oh, Brock's just at it again, just taking what he wants. Like, what do they have to say about that? Yeah, like, what's the intention behind asking the question? I don't know. But a lot of people were wondering. I've got it like, oh, damn, you're going to take a drink too? I was like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:44 She's pumping. And I'll just have the drink I needed a drink something else that people noticed was what was that mark on your wrist when they did a close up of your ring oh see I didn't even notice it on the show you have a scar now I do have a scar now
Starting point is 00:17:58 so I was doing these workouts called EMS which is electro muscular stimulation, which basically you're in this suit. It's sprayed with water, the water and the electricity. I never really understood that part of it kind of weirded me out. But you're in this suit that is like shocking your muscles. And basically a 25 minute workout is it's equivalent to three hours,
Starting point is 00:18:26 two to three hours in the gym. I swear these workouts are what snapped me back into the shape I'm in. I was doing them regularly for a few months. However, one of those sessions, I literally got electrocuted and my entire body, I'm holding a 20 pound kettlebell. I'm doing deadlifts, if you know what those are. And all of a sudden the suit like shorts out and I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, I dropped the kettlebell. Thankfully not on my foot. Don't know how I didn't hit my head on the mirror or anything else. My whole body is like convulsing. I go down to the ground, landed on my left wrist, somehow didn't break my wrist. I just had this gnarly, like, looked like a carpet burn, but I mean, it was wood floor from the gym.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I'm shaking. The trainer obviously turns off the machine. I get out of it. And then you were actually upstairs. I came upstairs. I was freaking out. I had to calm myself instantly because Summer was like looking at me like, oh my God, oh my God. I was like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Just calm down. But it was terrifying.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. I'm sure. Straight electrocuted. So. So that was the scab. That was the scab. So she had a scab and then she had some makeup on top of it to try and like. We tried to put makeup on it and then it made it worse and.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I did blur it in all the photos you posted though. Yeah. So it's just people who saw it on TV. Yeah, I wasn't going to answer. She had a scab. Whatever. It was a big scab. But that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It was gnarly. That was wild, honey, you know. At least you're safe. You're good. I'm just going to add to that. There's no secret sauce. There's no quick fix when it comes to your health. And like we all go for these,
Starting point is 00:20:06 like these trends. And I'm telling you guys that you just send yourself up for false hope. You know, you're doing, you're doing good. I swore by those workouts. I enjoyed them so much until that moment. That too.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And now that we're back in San Diego, I am being consistent again with my workouts, which I know a lot of people have been commenting also about my workouts. Like, why aren't you using Brock's app? Why aren't you working out with Brock? A, home body is not fully up and running yet. It's not live to the public. Yeah. I enjoy going to a gym and working out with a personal trainer, which not everyone has the luxury of doing. So that's another reason. But also just for like our relationship sake, we don't always work out well together.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's better for us to just know our limits. Yeah. Those are some of our worst fights in quarantine is when we would work out together. And I feel like it gives you time apart where it's like Brock can go and work on something and you can work out and then he can work out at a separate time of the day. Yeah. We've got a good flow happening. I'm into the flow we've got going on right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Okay, next question. Do you wish COVID could have been discussed a little bit more on VPR this season? I do. I've seen like so many scripted shows that I watch. Like This Is Us, Grey's Anatomy. They really like honed in on the pandemic and added that into their storyline. And these are scripted shows. I feel like on a reality show, it would have been so interesting to hear about not even necessarily like the filming restrictions, but just to
Starting point is 00:21:37 understand, you know, what we're going through at this time in our lives. Like there was one mention of, oh, that girl that got COVID at Sur. And it was a really big deal. A lot of things got canceled that week because of this. I mean, you know, what? It shifted. Yeah, you're right. It shifted our whole plan.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. And it really forced other things to happen. You're like, oh, I got to make stuff happen. So I wish it was shown a little bit. Was it even acknowledged at the reunion why Katie, Tom and Lala were on Zoom? They just said in like an utmost amount of following safety precautions
Starting point is 00:22:10 and being the utmost amount of safe, like whatever some people are joining via Zoom. And here's the thing with like HIPAA and all of that, it's no one's business legally even. We're not allowed to discuss other people's medical situations. But if the person who has COVID is openly talking about it, like I had to sign a HIPAA form for Summer
Starting point is 00:22:30 because I mentioned that she had COVID on the reunion. And you have, you know, it's just a... Oh, that's what that HIPAA form was? Yeah. Got it. Because I mentioned that and that's about, but we're her parents. So obviously we can agree to that. But... You know, there's going to be there's gonna be this like did she consent though I know right did she consent to have her ears pierced no but she has them well that's what your parents are for yep okay last vpr question what are your guys's plans if the show doesn't come back next season wow okay you want to go I can go first you go first rock has lots of plans.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I've always got ideas and visions and all that. Honestly, I think what we're doing right now, we're working on the family, but we're going to be bi-coastal. Like, we want to be back in Australia somehow. I was like, bi-coastal? I know, where? Bi-coastal is like New York. Bi-country? Bi-continental.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Bi-continental. Bi-continental. There you go. But obviously, what we're doing right now, we've got big things happening with Homebody and the work on that. So we're working with that. But I think just enjoying our life and really finding our place there. But I do want to be able to have something here and then going back home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And I think for me, I mean, I love what I do, but I've always wanted to really get into entertainment news hosting. Yes. Yeah. Any type of news or talk show. I would love to do that eventually. I've even had my manager put some feelers out for just like correspondence roles and stuff right now
Starting point is 00:23:54 for little things with E! or Entertainment Tonight, Extra. That's what you went to school for, right? Yeah, that's what I really want to do. Like if I could be the female Mario Lopez, goals. Damn, goals. Yeah. Love that. Okay, so let's be the female Mario Lopez, goals. Goals. Yeah. Love that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So, let's move on and talk your relationship and the wedding. So, how's wedding planning going? It's going. Wedding planning.
Starting point is 00:24:14 We've hit a, we've hit a, a juncture? Junction? We've hit a junction in the, in the decision-making skill set,
Starting point is 00:24:21 right? A junction? A junction? A speed bump? No, like a speed bump. A roadblock? A fork in the road. A fork in skill set, right? A junction? A junction? A speed bump? No, a speed bump is like a fork in the road.
Starting point is 00:24:29 A fork in the road, okay? Where we have to make decisions. The hard decisions need to be made. And when I say we, I mean Sheena. And when I say our problems, I mean this is on her. Why can't wedding planning be easy? Like, I feel like everyone who's planning a wedding just, like, complains about it. I think eloping is easy. I think wedding planning is easy. For the I feel like everyone who's planning a wedding just, like, complains about it. I think eloping is easy.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I think wedding planning is easy. For the man. As a man. Mm-hmm. But really, is it, though? What's your most hardest, difficult decision to make about this wedding planning? Cutting the invite list in half. That's one decision you have to make on a person.
Starting point is 00:24:57 There you go. That's like 150 decisions. I know. What's the next hardest thing about planning a wedding? Well, how much it costs, obviously. That just comes with it. What else is the next hardest thing about planning a wedding? Well, how much it costs, obviously. That just comes with it. What else is the next hardest thing? Location.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Location. Okay. So we've narrowed it down to a few locations in the same country. And now we just need to figure out which part of the country we want to go to, how much one place costs versus another. the country we want to go to, how much one place costs versus another. And then we really need to figure out who's on the cut list. And that's the hardest thing because I want to invite everybody. I also want to invite everybody. Budget wise, it doesn't make sense. I've already had a big wedding. I'm not doing that again. And it just it's unnecessary. So it's coming along. We just
Starting point is 00:25:47 the guest list, our wedding planner emailed us two nights ago. And she was, so do you have your guest list yet? I need all of the emails. But I was like, no, no, no, not even close. Like, we have the guest list. It's just 256 people, which we need to cut in half. What's the hardest part about you cutting people? Because here's the thing when it's like, my dad's side of the family. What's the hardest part about you cutting people? Because here's the thing. When it's like my dad's side of the family, let's just give that as an example.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Obviously, I want all of my cousins there because I'm close with all of my cousins. But then I'm also close with their girlfriends and fiancés. But then it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:16 do I invite every aunt and uncle? And if I invite every aunt and uncle, then I have to invite their spouses and then their kids. And so it's like, where do I draw the line?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Do I only invite the cousins? Or when you have favorite cousins and you like don't invite the cousins that you don't like as much, I feel like. Where do you draw the line? How do I invite three cousins and not two? I think you draw the line because they're your family, first and foremost. So they should understand and respect your decisions. Secondly, the best thing about family is they love you unconditionally.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So they should, well, then if they don't, then why are we putting effort into bringing them to a wedding? You know, so I think, I think you have to understand that like your friends, even if they don't get to come to the wedding, they're still going to celebrate our marriage. You know, they're still going to support you. Same as your family. Here's the thing. I think what I would feel better about doing is because we didn't have an engagement party. We don't need to have an engagement party.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But maybe we have a post-wedding celebration in LA that everyone else can come to. That's something where it's not like we're having to front the cost. You know,
Starting point is 00:27:17 like we go to Tom Tom. Everyone meet us at Tom Tom. I have Richardson reserve the garden at Tom Tom for us and we have a celebration with everyone because then
Starting point is 00:27:26 everyone's invited. They're all paying for their own drinks. They're paying for their own food. We might have to find a different venue, but we'll work on it. You get what I'm saying. I feel like that might be the move. But we're going to go from having I guess. I don't know. I like that. I think we can send everyone who got
Starting point is 00:27:42 cut like an invitation that looks like a wedding invitation but when they open it, it's just to the party in LA. Yeah. They still have something to hang on the fridge. Oh, this is so hard. Like, I was hanging out with people the other night, and I'm like, oh, you're on the B list. But, like, we're friends. They were friends.
Starting point is 00:28:00 They're friends. Oh, and then one of them was even mentioning the wedding to me, and I'm like, stop talking. Yeah, that's awkward. This is a PSA to all of our family. I don't care to come to any of their weddings. So if they're listening to this, like, yeah, you can put me on the beat. My family gets it. My family gets it, you know, and we both.
Starting point is 00:28:16 But your family's also coming from much further away. Correct. So that's different. If we're, yeah. Next question. Okay, anyways. Next question. Okay. Anyway, are you guys having a big bridal party or will it just be you two up on the altar? So I wanted it to just be us two.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And then groomzilla over here is like, well, I've never had a wedding. I want groomsmen. I want a best man. I want this. I want that. Well, I just want that experience. I know. And everyone deserves that experience.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So I'm more than willing to accommodate that. But it has to be an even number for photos, I said. We have six as a number. Yeah. And Summer's obviously going to be the flower girl. Yes. She's going to be so cute. She's going to be so cute.
Starting point is 00:28:56 We need to figure out the ring bearer still. Yeah. Yeah. Are you guys going to… Are you… Not you guys. Are you going to change your last name once you guys get married? Legally, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Totally. And then we will just go by Sheena Marie. Well, and then I realized— I didn't even realize this when I gave— When we chose Moon for Summer's middle name, but her and I all have the same initials. That's funny. Sheena Marie, Summer Moon, Honey Davies.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Wow. Yeah. So that's cute. That's really cute. What is that? Shma with a D behind it? Shaking my head. Shaking my head. And then Yeah. So that's cute. That's really cute. What is that? Shmeh with a D behind it? Shaking my head. Shaking my head.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And then. There was a worse one. There's a worse one. What? Never mind. I'm not going to say it because that's not her initials. Okay. There's an H in it.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So. Good to know. Mm-hmm. Okay. So getting. Oh, shit. Okay. All right. Good to know. Okay. okay all right okay getting away from the wedding stuff a little bit going back to like what everyone saw this season sheena are you disheartened by all the comments about you and brock have they
Starting point is 00:29:55 hurt your relationship at all they've not hurt our relationship it's just frustrating when people judge on not the full story. I got a really nice message today on Patreon. I want to give her a shout out. Heather Johnson sent me a really sweet message and said that she's not a casual viewer of the show. She said, Brock was not a new cast member to me. I've known him for over a year and a half through YouTube and shenanigans before this season aired. I don't view him or your relationship in the way so many people do and went on and continued to
Starting point is 00:30:29 say more sweet things. So thank you, Heather. That was so sweet. And that's where I'm like, people who have been with us from the beginning of my YouTube channel and listening to the podcast, I don't think they had the same view, even hearing all of the quote unquote red flags, you know? So it's frustrating when people just only watch the show. They don't do any research outside of it, which they don't have to. It's a TV show for entertainment. I get it. But when they just give their opinion based on the few minutes of an edit you see of him, it frustrates me. And I feel the need to say, well, actually, that's not true. This is and I try not to let it frustrates me and I feel the need to say well actually that's not true this is and I'm I try not to let it get to me but then sometimes I just have fun on Twitter and I just like I went on a blocking spree last week I was like block block negative things say block
Starting point is 00:31:16 I know you posted about it I was gonna say it kind of reminds me of like when you watch a TV show and you don't like someone's character and then people end up like hating that actor because of it. Right. That's how you know you're a really good actor though. If you as a person. Except for that hating. You're like, you did a really good job at your role. The problem is I'm not acting. I'm just, I can be, I can be short. I can be opinionated and I can not care about other person's response, but because it's not my responsibility for how you react. You react regardless. Someone, if you, if you pick up a stray dog and that dog gets abused and you go to pat
Starting point is 00:31:51 the dog and you take a hand to the face, it's going to respond to you. Not because of me, because of what, what its perspective of where that dog's raised and how it was raised. And I'm not saying humans are like dogs or like animals. I'm just saying sometimes I do paint this narrative like, I don't care, like they can deal with it. And people find that offensive because deep down I do care, but at the same time I don't want to process
Starting point is 00:32:14 and spend this time really filtering myself that much if I feel like I'm correct with what I'm saying. And sometimes I'm not correct, but at least I can acknowledge that after the fact. But the problem is when you see a show like this, they don't have time to show a 40-minute conversation. Of course not. It's snippets. And you know what? On the snippets, I'm very short and I know
Starting point is 00:32:31 that and it doesn't help with my arrogance to be like, well, fuck it. That's my personality. Yeah, that's true. And especially when I drop the F-bomb, people get real offended by that. So I'll do better on the cussing. So, forks, knives, and spoons from now on. What? Forks, knives, and spoons from now on. What?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Forks, knives, and spoons from now on. That's what you're going to say instead? Yes. I mean, I could, whatever. Okay. I'll be better. Whatever. I love that.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Okay. And I finish it with whatever. Whatever. And that's exactly the personality. That's the problem. It's intimidating, I think, when people, like I know who I am and I know my past and I knew that. I think,
Starting point is 00:33:07 you know. At the end of the day, you know, I'm just thankful that people are watching the show. They're relating to the show. They're enjoying the entertainment of the show.
Starting point is 00:33:16 That's honestly what really matters. I just wish they were a little nicer. I would like that, but I got a question for you. How many people, how many comments
Starting point is 00:33:24 do you think you get per post or per, like, thing question for you. How many people, how many comments do you think you get per post or per like thing? Per week. How many in one week you reckon, cumulatively, negative comments do you think you can get?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Oof, the last few weeks? Yeah. It's been a lot. Yeah, but how, what are we talking? But usually, I mean, it's one to two negative
Starting point is 00:33:39 to every 15 positive. So we're looking at, what, like 20,000, 60,000 a month? A week? Oh, I don't know. I don't like doing math. Oh, God. Let we're looking at, what, like 20,000, 60,000 a month, a week? I don't know. I don't like doing math. Let's just say, for example, it's 100,000 negative comments. 780,000 people watched the show last week.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Actually, it was 880,000. Okay, so there you go. So 730 of them didn't comment. No, I see what you're saying. In the grand scheme of things, it's way more positive. And no one goes on to Yelp reviews and writes, oh my God, this is so great. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:34:08 There has to be an incentive to say something nice. Yeah. Otherwise, you're just going to go and complain about what happened. You guys are complaining about something that I'm very aware of. So thank you for bringing it to light. And just enjoy watching because I look forward to proving you guys wrong. Yeah. Yeah, simple.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Okay, so there's a lot of baby questions too. Do y'all want to have another baby? i getting another niece or nephew i do yeah obviously obviously i want to work on my my two relations with my older two as well yeah but they uh i definitely will look forward to having one or two or you know i think in a couple of years. Originally, before I had any complications, I had such a great pregnancy. There were no complications until obviously we were in labor. I was thinking that like this summer, we would try to get pregnant again. So they were like pretty close in age. Oh my God, that's so soon.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like absolutely not. Brittany was thinking that too. And then we're like, whew, that's like around the corner. Pause on that. So absolutely not. Brittany was thinking that too. And then we're like, whew, that's like around the corner. Pause on that. So absolutely not. Next summer, I think would be the soonest we would consider. But also I got a few offers for surrogates after the show aired. I had these women reach out who are like from San Dimas,
Starting point is 00:35:21 like our hometown and said she had a few really good pregnancies and just loved being pregnant. She's like, I would love, you know, the opportunity to carry your child if it's something that you know, you would want and you don't want to do it yourself because of all the complications. I was like, let's let's stay in touch. And I've had a couple other women that I'm like, okay, I mean, how does that work?, you still have to go through a whole legal process. Like, I mean, it's a lot. Because my biggest one when it comes to that, and I don't know if there's science behind this or backdoor
Starting point is 00:35:52 can help us out with this decision, but like Summer, when we look at our child right now, she's just like, she's just ultimately on point, you know? But then if we have another child that's opposite that's colicky does that come from like how she was how she was raised in the uterus in the womb like is it from the environment the stresses that were put upon that person carrying i'd say probably not if this woman has a normal pregnancy and doesn't do anything outside of things that sheena would do i feel like any way that they would act as an infant would be like genetic.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I just said that out loud and I realized we raised her and she was in our craziness and she came out perfect. So I realized the amount of shit she said, we're right there. No, but I do believe in the energy being passed on, you know, like I tried to meditate so much during my pregnancy and I tried to keep my anxieties at a minimum
Starting point is 00:36:43 and I tried to just stay calm as much as possible when it was really hard after having a miscarriage. So I do believe in energy like transferring into the baby. But I think you'd probably try to find a surrogate who has similar beliefs as you. Yeah, I agree. I think that's, yeah, I think it would take a little time to go down that conversation. But yes. Because I even was thinking like now that it's been, you know, nine months, I'm like, you know, I could probably I could do this again. But then when I watched the reunion back and just saw myself talking about what happened, I was like, I don't want to do this again ever. Like, no, no, no. Like right when I think I'm over it, and I could totally do this again. And it just it freaks me out. And I just don't I don't know that I would put myself at risk. So let's just pray this IUD works and we can revisit this next year.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I also want Summer to be fully potty trained and talking at least a little bit before we have another. Like I want her to understand a new sibling is coming into the picture and like she's potty trained. I don't want to be changing a toddler's diapers and a newborn's diapers.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Have you ever Googled that? Like how old are they when they can like understand that there's a new sibling coming? Because I know we Googled like certain things like how old does a baby have to be to recognize itself in the mirror?
Starting point is 00:37:55 And it said like 18 months. Yeah. So I wonder how old they have to be to understand that they have like a new baby on the way. Like well, our neighbors in San Diego, they're pregnant right now. Their daughter just turned two. And I think she fully understands that she has a new baby on the way. Like, well, our neighbors in San Diego, they're pregnant right now. Their daughter just turned two.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And I think she fully understands that she has a new sister coming. Aw, that's so cute. So I'm like, that's a good age gap. I think at least like two to three years. So they can still like be in high school together. But I still have time to just enjoy it with summer. And I can't imagine her starting to walk,
Starting point is 00:38:25 still being in diapers, and then me having a newborn. No. And the every three hours waking up, I just, oh, I can't imagine that again anytime soon. Yeah, no. It sounds like a lot. But I do want her to grow up with a little sibling.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, totally. This person wants to know, how do you drink and breastfeed? So, I mean, I don't drink like, wow. Here's the thing. Actually, I have drank before while breastfeeding because the lactation consultant said, if you're going to have a glass of wine, do it while you're nursing or while you're pumping, because it takes about 20 minutes to get in your system. So I remember there was one time, remember we're sitting at the Grove and he ordered me an Aperol Spritz, but I was like, I still have to nurse her.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And he's like, so nurse her now. And then I'm like, that's all I need is someone to take a photo of me with an Aperol Spritz in one hand, baby on the tit in the other. Yeah, that'd be bad. But either I will have a drink like right as I'm pumping because as I'm expressing the milk,
Starting point is 00:39:19 the alcohol isn't in it yet. If I drink more than three drinks, which I've only done a handful of times, I dump my milk. I hate dumping my milk. It hurts my soul. So I have these little alcohol test strips that I can test the milk to see if there's alcohol still in it. And then that's when I've dumped it. But now I just, especially since she stopped latching, I don't want to waste any of my milk. So I never drink enough that I would have to dump it. And then I wait the like four hours and then I pump again. You've been sober pretty much since you slept.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's been a minute. Yeah, but there have been a few times when I've let loose, like the finale being one of them. The Steelers-Chargers game being another. A handful of times, but honey, you've done so well the whole time. Thanks, honey. How have the kitties been this summer? Are they adjusting well?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Salem is so patient with her. He's so good with her. She, I've like, I should, I should have started it as a highlight, like a series of Summer just terrorizing Salem. You can go back. Okay, yeah, I want to go back. Summer and Salem, like part one, part two,
Starting point is 00:40:19 her chasing him and the walker. But I mean, he is so patient with her. She can like. He likes it. Yeah, he loves the attention. Yeah, he mean, he is so patient with her. He likes it. Yeah, he loves the attention. Yeah, he would hide if he didn't like it. No, physical touch is definitely that cat's love language. Penny, she kind of more so keeps to herself.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But she's still so good with her too. They've never tried to scratch her. Salem will try to cuddle Summer sometimes when she's like laying by us. But they're very good with her. We're really lucky. I was terrified of that too. Does Summer hang out with Ocean Hartford and Cruz?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. They go playdates? Yeah, they have playdates. We went to the park a couple weeks ago. I mean, now that we're back in San Diego, we have to like actually plan the times that we can get together when we drive up. But she's had so many playdates with them
Starting point is 00:41:02 and I'm so excited to just be able to see them grow up together like they have built-in best friends and they're all the same age and especially once they all turn one and they're all walking they're all gonna seem the same age yeah right now they're still it's like Hartford is definitely older she's the only one walking so and then the other three are like still similar but I feel like once they get past the year mark they're just all the same age yeah and they all had parents that like went through the same thing so I'm sure they'll all be able to bond about that definitely and then one of my last questions was um what is one piece of advice you would give summer moon about life oh why do you guys look
Starting point is 00:41:38 at me straight away because it's a question for both of us but I want to hear your answer first he's like I wasn't prepared advice I would give summer is just yeah I But I want to hear your answer first. He's like, I wasn't prepared. Advice I would give Summer is just, I mean, I want her to believe in herself. That's it. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I'm going to teach her that, you know, failure is a way of learning and it's not wrong to do things. It's just learning from those experiences. So I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:01 how I'm going to do that to an eight-month-old, nine-month-old, but I've got some ideas. As she gets older. As she gets older, that's why I want to install on her. That's my goal. But apart from that, what was the advice from her? Just, I mean, she's going to, I'm going to let her do whatever she wants. She's going to learn from her own lessons. Yeah. Is that your style of parenting? You're going to let her figure it out on her own? He will. Yeah. She'll figure it out. She'll be fine. And then if she's not fine, I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:42:25 yeah yeah figure it out she'll be fine and then if she's not fine I'll be there you know and that's that's my style what do you got honey I just I yeah I want her to always have confidence but I also want her to always feel comfortable coming to us with anything like I always want to have an open line of communication for her I don't want her to ever be afraid to tell us if she did something that she thinks she's going to get in trouble for I don't want her to ever be afraid to tell us if she did something that she thinks she's going to get in trouble for. I don't want her to feel like she has to have straight A's. Like, I want her to just be comfortable and confident and to always be able to come to us with anything. Because I had that type of relationship with my parents, and I definitely want her to feel that same way. Then you guys can't be scary, or else she'll be scared to tell you. Who's scary?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I don't know. I think. Y'all think I'm scary. I think both of you could be scary. I could be. I could be honest. I could be honest. You don't like honesty.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That's what scares you guys about how I'm brutally honest. I just think you need to. Have empathy. As a girl, dad. Yeah. That too. Yeah. But she has me wrapped around her finger.
Starting point is 00:43:21 A hundred percent. Yeah. And I do have empathy. But I won't. I'll draw the line when empathy enables anything else but confidence because too much empathy shadows and overtakes and leans into what's the word i'm trying to look for when someone becomes um oh um wait i know what you're trying to say anyway Anyway. No, now it's going to bother me. What are you trying to say?
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm just trying to say that, listen, I don't think I'm firm. I'm very soft and I understand everything because I've done everything and so have you. So I'm never going to come from like a judgmental place. I will be very firm with getting my point across and making sure she understands that there's other opinions about the subject and people don't like that sometimes people want to be no you're wrong i'm right and you should never be it should never be an i'm right you're wrong situation in conversations
Starting point is 00:44:14 it's that's how you feel this is how i feel and learn from how you feel and learn how i feel and if we can leave it at that leave it at at that. Yeah. Okay. If that makes me an asshole for being very clear, then I'll be the asshole for being very clear. When you and Summer have a disagreement, we could just like refer back to this podcast and she could hear it how you just said it. You could just word burn it and say, Dad, you said, and no, I think I'll be fine with that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Like I still, even when she's little, like now I'm trying to teach her stuff and I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one out. Yeah. And then once she starts talking back to me, then I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one out. Yeah. And then once she starts talking back to me, then I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one out. Doesn't work either. She's going to do that for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:50 For sure. Well, because you're going to allow her to play me like a fiddle. You'll be like, I will say yes, but you got to ask your dad and then you pin her against me. That's what you're going to do. I'm not pinning her against you. I'm just letting you be the final say. But instead of being a united front.
Starting point is 00:45:05 On some things we will be for sure. We should always be united front. Okay, I'll try my best. But that doesn't help me either. I'm not going to put her against you. Like, I'll say yes, but go see your mom. Because then she'll ask you and you'll say yes. Okay, okay. I'll see when you flip it that way, then. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. We're on the same page. We're on the same page. Listen, there's a plan we have to raise in our children. Let's see how that rolls out. Definitely. All right. Well, thank you, Courtney, for mediating the questions.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Of course. Thank you, honey, for being my guest and co-host and everything. Hopefully everyone enjoys the Q&As apparently. Yeah. I mean, we always get so many questions. So I figure that, you know, we'll do these semi-regularly, just general Q&As about a little bit of everything, you know, go back to the show.
Starting point is 00:45:52 People always have questions about that, whether it's on air or not. I feel like the show is kind of like our life. It's like the main thing we're doing. The show is our life. Yeah. I really hope it comes back and you guys see this. I think the show really has got to show a lot of journey right now because the boys have their bar opening up.
Starting point is 00:46:09 The girls have their sandwich stop opening up. You and Lala and Raquel are single and James. Did you just say me? I said Lala and Raquel. He said you and Lala and Raquel are single. Okay, Lala, Raquel, and James are single. You and Lala have kids to raise. And I think there's a lot going on and hopefully people want to see that.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And I really look forward to following along and seeing how everyone grows from there. Definitely. Got a lot of things going on. But thank you for having me on here, honey. And hopefully I cleared it up. I can't be an asshole. You're just always clarifying it. Just clarifying it. I'm an asshole. You're just always clarifying it. Just clarifying it.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I'm an asshole. With a heart. With a heart. That is true. Thank you guys so much for listening. We will be back next week getting into some more shenanigans here at Dear Media. Bye. Bye.
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