Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Q&A with Brock Davies and Cortney Erin
Episode Date: March 4, 2022This week, Scheana and Brock do another fun Q&A episode. They’re joined by Scheana’s sister Cortney who acts as the mediator as they answer listener questions. They talk about lo...ng it takes to forgive their cast-mates after a fight, why Scheana and Brock have decided not to do workouts together, the hardest thing about wedding planning and dealing with negative comments on social media. Also, what are their plans for baby number two?! Tune in to this week’s episode to find out. Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana Go to www.bollandbranch.com and use code shay at checkout for 15% off Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between,
it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea.
Hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to Shenanigans. We are back in studio here at Dear Media, and it just feels so good to be in a studio again.
I have my sister back, who's going to be the mediator question asker for this Q&A with myself and Brock. How are you, honey?
I'm good, honey. How are you doing? I'm glad we have a mediator.
Yeah.
It actually helps to separate our conversations a little bit
and kind of helps me get to a point.
Yeah.
I'm long-winded when it comes to my answers.
Yeah, I feel like I can tell either of you to shut up
and neither of you will be offended.
Totally.
And I like when you add in your opinions.
We did this a few weeks ago
and people still had a lot of questions.
So I was like, you know what?
Let's do another Q&A episode.
We can go back to the reunion a little bit, talk about some wedding planning, future plans
for babies, whatever.
There were a lot of questions.
So can I start off before I get headlighted?
No, there are no headlights here.
Like you've curated who went through these questions.
Your sister did?
Yeah. Okay. So we're there in the went through these questions? Your sister did? Yeah.
Okay.
So we're there in the headlights when these questions come out.
So there's no pre-answers for this.
I'm speaking for your guys' audiences.
Yes.
Okay.
She is their voice.
And what I'm also going to do soon too is do an episode with the listeners' actual voices
where we can go in the room, They can call in, ask questions.
That's fun.
They can have like a little phone here where they call in.
Yeah.
We can have some people zoom in,
like a shout out to our boy,
Clarence.
Clarence,
buddy.
He's so excited to do some shenanigans with us soon.
So we'll get one of those episodes set up and yeah,
looking forward to that.
Well,
let's see your guys' faces.
I'm here to support honey. And I'm so forward to that. Well, let's see your guys' faces. I'm here to support honey.
And I'm so stoked to see you in studio.
This is amazing for you and for your podcast.
I really look forward to watching you grow and kind of like develop,
but from growth means you need a five star reviews.
You need people to repost it.
So tell us what you like.
Yeah.
And hit us with the good luck charms,
you know,
five stars would be great. Four stars is good. And then below that, just be honest. Yeah. And hit us with the good luck charms, you know. Five stars would be great.
Four stars is good.
Anything below that, just be honest.
Right.
Constructive criticism.
I always embrace that.
It's just.
Just don't lead with like, you know, Brock's bad.
I get it.
I get it.
I'm opinionated.
But I think you are also getting better.
Perfect.
Five star review.
Brock's getting better.
It's like, just skip the episodes of Brock's and if you don't like him that much.
Exactly.
He's not in every episode.
Why are you torturing yourself again?
If you don't like him, then just don't listen.
Yeah, I'm a cup of, I'm not like, what is it?
I'm a fine wine.
You're an acquired taste.
Oh, I thought you were going to say I'm not everyone's cup of tea.
That was it.
Yeah, that's what you were starting to say, but then you went to go with the Lala acquired
taste fine line and fine wine. Fine line by Harry Styles. I'm a fine to say, but then you went to go with the Lala acquired case fine line and fine wine.
Fine line by Harry Styles.
I'm a fine line, baby.
I think I'm walking a fine line.
Here we go.
All right.
Let's get into it.
Okay.
So there were a ton of questions about the reunion.
So let's get those out of the way.
Okay, cool.
How long does it take all of you guys to forgive each other after the reunion?
Oh, it depends.
If you're me, I'm over it that day, and then we all go out to dinner together. So animals. Okay. The fact that that is the culture,
it is shockingly, I get it, but it took me a minute to get over it. Going into the reunion,
I was fuming. Okay. And I wish I could have controlled myself and like carried my man,
like kind of carried myself in a gentleman like fashion which would be amazing but i just didn't have it in me i'm sorry okay i binged six episodes of the of our
show bang bang bang and it installed a little bit of fire in the belly and so i was ready to rock
and roll but apparently that's not what you do at the reunion i don't know why you do that at the
reunion no one was doing it but me.
Well, because everyone wasn't in person.
The people who do that weren't there.
I was the asshole the whole time.
Yeah.
Because I had things to say.
Yeah.
You did your job.
You did your job well.
Yeah.
It took a while to forgive everybody.
I think I even apologized to Lala after seeing myself.
Right.
Then I was like, wow.
Yeah, I was a bit of a dick but at the
same time it's like so it took me took me like seeing myself took me that long to apologize
after which was a couple of months yeah see and i can even get in a fight with someone before lunch
and then after lunch i'm like good with them yeah i just think it depends on the type of person you
are like i get over things really quickly too. Yeah, it's just with this group,
I mean, it's just easier to move on
if it's something that's not that big of a deal.
Like Charlie clapping in my face.
I had a rosé at lunch and I was over it.
Oh, you were over it?
Yeah, I mean, it honestly,
I think just depends on the situation and-
The severity.
Yeah, totally. Okay, Good answer. Good answer.
Okay. Next question. Is there anything from the season that didn't air that you wish did?
You, let me think. What about the rest of your engagement? I said that I think on a recent
episode that and the babysitting were the two things that I was really bummed we didn't get
to see the first half of the engagement because it was just such a heartfelt moment. I mean,
the whole thing was, but that part was so good. Tom and Ariana babysitting,
singing Summer, good as gold on acoustic guitar, but also Tom's birthday party. That was so much
fun. Yeah. I want to jump around a little bit. I know you mentioned on the reunion, like your
experience in the hospital after the birth with preeclampsia. Yeah. One of the questions was,
can you share more on your experience with preeclampsia?
Oh my God, I can't say it.
With preeclampsia.
I feel like that's something that you wish aired a little bit more this season
because you did talk about that
at the beginning of the season.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
That is something that I talked a lot about all summer.
Like the first thing that you and I filmed,
we were sitting at the kitchen island
and I was talking about how traumatic
that entire experience was.
I mean, I'm so thankful I got induced because if I didn't, I literally could have died.
Like it is that severe.
It's not me being dramatic or exaggerating my blood pressure.
I don't even know how high it was.
It was high.
I don't even want to say it because I feel like I'm wrong, but it was like it was 180 over high it was it was high I kind of I don't even want to say it
because I feel like I'm wrong but it was like it was 180 over something like it was high that was
like 200 and something over 180 or something it was ridiculous I don't think it would have been
over 180 but whatever it was it was like stroke level could have had a seizure could have actually
died and I had so many women reach out to me after the reunion and share
their stories and like some other women who their friends like passed away from it. And it was just
like really, really scary, really traumatizing. So I do wish more of that was shown. I'm thankful
as much was shown on the reunion as it was just because these are things that women need to know
when they're pregnant to look out for.
It was at my 40-week appointment,
and there was protein in my urine,
and my blood pressure was high.
And we just chalked it up to, well, I'm 40 weeks pregnant.
I could have this baby at any moment.
I'm freaking out.
Like, I don't...
I felt like I was never going to
be ready. What was it? Protein shakes and just ready for a baby? Yeah. And a protein smoothie
that morning or like the Greek yogurt, like whatever it was. Did you have a high protein
breakfast? I was like, I mean, yeah, more than usual. I usually come in on an empty stomach.
They're like, that's probably all it was. But those are two telltale signs for preeclampsia
or help syndrome. So I do wish that was shown more, but I'm thankful
as much was shown as it was. And I do have these other amazing platforms to bring awareness and
just spread that information. But that was literally traumatizing. I still can't talk
about it without crying. You went through a lot, honey. I did. And then to have people coming at me so quickly after, I was like, I just went through not
even just having a baby, but like everything else I went through.
And then being on the blood pressure medication for so long after not being able to work out,
not feeling like myself, like it was really challenging.
I mean, so many women are like, I don't know how you had a baby. And then three
days after you got home from the hospital, we're filming a television show. They're like,
I'm four months postpartum. And sometimes I can barely get off the couch. And I didn't have that
luxury. I just went full force. That's what I was going to say. I felt like no one realized that it
was that fast of a turnaround. I think Lala was genuinely the only person who truly understood
that because she had not been through it as traumatic. But also she got induced three weeks early. So like that was traumatic in itself. You
know, she didn't know what if Ocean's lungs were completely developed and you know, all of that.
So I think just having those similar experiences, obviously different, but still similar. She
understood what I was going through in that moment. We both had
crazy hormones going through our bodies. And I think that's one of the reasons that we were able
to forgive each other so quickly and move on because we got what one another was going through
when no one else did at all. Yeah, totally. And it's one of those things I feel like you can't
really know until you have gone through it.
And I mean, I wouldn't wish help syndrome or a miscarriage on anyone.
So I don't want people to be able to relate in that way,
but just try to at least sympathize and understand like,
wow, she just went through something really traumatic.
Maybe I'm not going to be a bitch that she hasn't been present in my friendship.
Yeah.
Case in point, Charlie.
Well said.
Well, on a lighter note, I just knew you wanted to mention that.
I felt like that was something that didn't air a lot.
But on a lighter note, does the cast coordinate outfits for the reunion?
We kind of, yes.
So, I mean, production ultimately has like the final say.
So we send in our top like three looks and then they kind of
coordinate that together. But I already had my gold dress. So I had sent that to all the girls.
I'm like, just so you know, this is what I'm wearing. I've had it for what? A year and a half,
two years. Where was it from? They want to know that too. Meshki. Okay. Yeah. So I pulled it for
the season eight reunion. Okay. And then when that ended up being Zoom, I was like, I'm not wasting this gown sitting in my house on Zoom. I am saving it for next season because there will be another
season. I was so optimistic. So I had that dress ready to go. So I had sent it to all of the girls
and like, just saying this is what I'm wearing. So, you know, if we could try and coordinate,
then we could all probably wear our first option if they look good together.
And then Brock did not do that.
And so his and James's first options were so similar that Brock didn't get to wear his.
I was going to say, Brock, people had a lot to say about what you wore at the reunion.
They said, why are Brock's pants never long enough?
Why is his shirt always unbuttoned?
Well, I feel like that's just a preference because it's just feel comfortable with the pant look.
It's the Peter Pan look, I guess.
And the fact I just think that I'm comfortable like that.
Personal style.
Personal style.
And then, yeah, I didn't.
I planned.
I had a pink suit lined up and then the same thing.
We sent it through.
It was so similar.
And it was I was like, oh, so that's why I couldn't wear that suit.
And that was my go to.
I was like, I'm not going to give him another option.
So I actually got my shirt my silk shirt from somewhere cheap online
and then walked up and they actually had another shirt laid out
and then they're like, actually, we like that shirt you're wearing.
So you know what?
It is what it is.
And if people don't like my choice, that's okay.
I don't like what you drink for coffee sometimes.
Do you like what I'm drinking right now?
That was a bit weird, but it's a good experience.
It's a blueberry matcha.
It's bomb.
I get it.
I get it.
It's earthy.
And look, I'll touch on this one.
I don't have clothes that fit me through the season.
Like I'm not going to like sugarcoat it.
We put on, and yeah, I said on my social media the other day,
I'd put like 38 to 40 pounds on.
It wasn't that much.
And then we did the numbers and it was 20.
It was 28 pounds I gained.
So I gained 28 pounds in body fat.
I know, and you're like 40 pounds.
I was like, no, you didn't.
Yeah, I felt like it.
I'll tell you what, I felt like it.
I'm officially no longer an XL.
No, you're a double XL.
I am a double XL.
So yeah, you're right.
My fashion choice is my fashion choice.
And if it bothers you, that sounds like it's your problem, not mine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Pretty much.
I mean, yeah, I gained, obviously I had a baby,
so it was a little different,
but I still gained 55 pounds.
Yeah, but you lost yours.
Look at you.
You're tiny, honey.
Thank you, honey.
I've been working hard.
I'm still carrying the dad weight.
Work harder.
Okay, I'm working on my father figure.
Oof.
Okay, well, speaking of your dress,
they want to know,
why would nobody switch sides with you?
So that also isn't just like, it's not like Charlie could have been like, oh, Sheena,
I'm on your good side. Just swap me. I mean, they strategically seat us where they do.
What Ariana and I couldn't understand is, so we originally were on our left side because that was
the way our looks were with the slit on our dress. We said we should be seated on this side because
that was what will look best to cameras. And I guess we were.
And then when three people ended up joining via Zoom,
they switched our sides.
And I'm like, but I don't understand.
There's still four people on that side,
four people on this side.
Why can't us four be on that side
and them four be on this side?
And it was just like, shut up, Sheena.
We don't care about your good side.
I'm like, it's not just my good side.
It's a valid point though.
But it's my entire look.
Like I planned my look around being seated on this side
and I let them know, here's my look.
Here's how I'm doing my hair.
You let all of us know, including myself.
I know.
In social media, I think you let everyone know.
I was not happy about it, but here's the thing.
In hindsight, I'm glad that I was seated
on my quote unquote bad side because I
was able to see myself on camera in a side that I don't normally see myself. I always position
myself to the left. And I was like, okay, it's not as bad as I thought. I need to have some more
self-love and just not be so nitpicky about the things I'm insecure about.
But I also was losing a lot of hair at the moment.
Thanks to Nutrafol.
It's growing back.
Shout out to them.
But yeah, I've always just been more insecure shooting on the right side of my face.
And especially when I started losing hair.
Is it not exhausting knowing that when you go to film for nine years maybe 10 years you've been filming you position yourself I'm just really good at doing that I saw it I noticed it and then
it becomes like my my tick it's my mind yeah it's a bad habit no I'm like honey you're gonna sit here
for dinner I know where my cameras are I'm. I will try to be better about that. Watching back
the reunion, I was like, okay, it's not as bad as I've thought. Yeah, I think, I think, I think
it's so vain. It's so vain. I need to work on that more. But that was a good forcing me into
working on it moment. I like that. Yeah. Okay. So my next question is... Actually, before we get to
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people caught that. Oh my God. So many people I saw on Twitter, they're like, wow, did anyone
else notice Sheena drank her drink before they even did the toast? I'm like, actually Brock
drank his drink. I didn't want to drink my drink because I still had a pump.
What was your drink?
Tom made up.
It was a summery's eve, remember?
Oh, the summer's eve.
Summer's eve.
It was some kind of something.
Some berry concoction, foamy thing.
I drank my drink because I needed a bloody drink.
Are you kidding me?
I'm sorry.
And then I realized, oh, we got a toast.
I'm like, oh, stop drinking.
And I was like, well, here, I don't want mine.
I'm not going to drink it anyway. So I was like, swap me. And then I guess, oh, we got a toast. I'm like, oh, stop drinking. And I was like, well, here, I don't want mine. I'm not going to drink it anyway.
So I was like, swap me.
And then I guess that was interesting.
Apparently people caught it.
People would see that.
How did they see that?
They saw it as like, oh, Brock's just at it again, just taking what he wants.
Like, what do they have to say about that?
Yeah, like, what's the intention behind asking the question?
I don't know.
But a lot of people were wondering.
I've got it like, oh, damn, you're going to take a drink too?
I was like, what are you talking about?
She's pumping.
And I'll just have the drink I needed a drink
something else that people noticed was
what was that mark on your wrist when they did a close up
of your ring
oh see I didn't even notice it on the show
you have a scar now
I do have a scar now
so I was doing these
workouts called EMS
which is electro muscular stimulation, which basically
you're in this suit.
It's sprayed with water, the water and the electricity.
I never really understood that part of it kind of weirded me out.
But you're in this suit that is like shocking your muscles.
And basically a 25 minute workout is it's equivalent to three hours,
two to three hours in the gym. I swear these workouts are what snapped me back into the shape
I'm in. I was doing them regularly for a few months. However, one of those sessions, I literally
got electrocuted and my entire body, I'm holding a 20 pound kettlebell. I'm doing deadlifts, if you know
what those are. And all of a sudden the suit like shorts out and I'm like, oh my God, oh my God,
I dropped the kettlebell. Thankfully not on my foot. Don't know how I didn't hit my head on the
mirror or anything else. My whole body is like convulsing. I go down to the ground, landed on
my left wrist, somehow didn't break my wrist. I just
had this gnarly, like, looked like a carpet burn, but I mean, it was wood floor from the gym.
I'm shaking. The trainer obviously turns off the machine. I get out of it. And then you were
actually upstairs. I came upstairs. I was freaking out. I had to calm myself instantly because Summer
was like looking at me like, oh my God, oh
my God.
I was like, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
Just calm down.
But it was terrifying.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Straight electrocuted.
So.
So that was the scab.
That was the scab.
So she had a scab and then she had some makeup on top of it to try and like.
We tried to put makeup on it and then it made it worse and.
I did blur it in all the photos you posted though.
Yeah.
So it's just people who saw it on TV.
Yeah, I wasn't going to answer.
She had a scab.
Whatever.
It was a big scab.
But that's what happened.
It was gnarly.
That was wild, honey, you know.
At least you're safe.
You're good.
I'm just going to add to that.
There's no secret sauce.
There's no quick fix when it comes to your health.
And like we all go for these,
like these trends.
And I'm telling you guys that you just send yourself up for false hope.
You know,
you're doing,
you're doing good.
I swore by those workouts.
I enjoyed them so much until that moment.
That too.
And now that we're back in San Diego,
I am being consistent again with my workouts,
which I know a lot of people have been commenting also about my workouts. Like,
why aren't you using Brock's app? Why aren't you working out with Brock?
A, home body is not fully up and running yet. It's not live to the public. Yeah.
I enjoy going to a gym and working out with a personal trainer, which
not everyone has the luxury of doing. So that's another reason.
But also just for like our relationship sake, we don't always work out well together.
It's better for us to just know our limits.
Yeah. Those are some of our worst fights in quarantine is when we would work out together.
And I feel like it gives you time apart where it's like Brock can go and work on something
and you can work out and then he can work out at a separate time of the day.
Yeah.
We've got a good flow happening.
I'm into the flow we've got going on right now.
Yeah.
Okay, next question.
Do you wish COVID could have been discussed a little bit more on VPR this season?
I do.
I've seen like so many scripted shows that I watch.
Like This Is Us, Grey's Anatomy.
They really like honed in on the pandemic and added that into
their storyline. And these are scripted shows. I feel like on a reality show, it would have been
so interesting to hear about not even necessarily like the filming restrictions, but just to
understand, you know, what we're going through at this time in our lives. Like there was one
mention of, oh, that girl that got COVID at Sur.
And it was a really big deal.
A lot of things got canceled that week because of this.
I mean, you know, what?
It shifted.
Yeah, you're right.
It shifted our whole plan.
Yeah.
And it really forced other things to happen.
You're like, oh, I got to make stuff happen.
So I wish it was shown a little bit.
Was it even acknowledged at the reunion
why Katie, Tom and Lala were on Zoom?
They just said in like an utmost amount
of following safety precautions
and being the utmost amount of safe,
like whatever some people are joining via Zoom.
And here's the thing with like HIPAA and all of that,
it's no one's business legally even.
We're not allowed to discuss
other people's medical situations.
But if
the person who has COVID is openly talking about it, like I had to sign a HIPAA form for Summer
because I mentioned that she had COVID on the reunion. And you have, you know, it's just a...
Oh, that's what that HIPAA form was? Yeah. Got it. Because I mentioned that and that's about,
but we're her parents. So obviously we can agree to that. But...
You know, there's going to be there's gonna be this like did she
consent though I know right did she consent to have her ears pierced no but she has them
well that's what your parents are for yep okay last vpr question what are your guys's plans
if the show doesn't come back next season wow okay you want to go I can go first you go first
rock has lots of plans.
I've always got ideas and visions and all that.
Honestly, I think what we're doing right now, we're working on the family, but we're going to be bi-coastal.
Like, we want to be back in Australia somehow.
I was like, bi-coastal?
I know, where?
Bi-coastal is like New York.
Bi-country?
Bi-continental.
Bi-continental.
Bi-continental.
There you go.
But obviously, what we're doing right now, we've got big things happening with Homebody and the work on that.
So we're working with that.
But I think just enjoying our life and really finding our place there.
But I do want to be able to have something here and then going back home.
Yeah.
And I think for me, I mean, I love what I do,
but I've always wanted to really get into entertainment news hosting.
Yes.
Yeah.
Any type of news or talk show.
I would love to do that eventually.
I've even had my manager put some feelers out
for just like correspondence roles and stuff right now
for little things with E! or Entertainment Tonight, Extra.
That's what you went to school for, right?
Yeah, that's what I really want to do.
Like if I could be the female Mario Lopez, goals.
Damn, goals.
Yeah. Love that. Okay, so let's be the female Mario Lopez, goals. Goals. Yeah.
Love that.
Okay.
So,
let's move on and talk
your relationship
and the wedding.
So,
how's wedding planning going?
It's going.
Wedding planning.
We've hit a,
we've hit a,
a juncture?
Junction?
We've hit a junction
in the,
in the decision-making
skill set,
right?
A junction?
A junction?
A speed bump?
No,
like a speed bump.
A roadblock?
A fork in the road. A fork in skill set, right? A junction? A junction? A speed bump? No, a speed bump is like a fork in the road.
A fork in the road, okay?
Where we have to make decisions.
The hard decisions need to be made.
And when I say we, I mean Sheena.
And when I say our problems, I mean this is on her.
Why can't wedding planning be easy?
Like, I feel like everyone who's planning a wedding just, like, complains about it.
I think eloping is easy. I think wedding planning is easy. For the I feel like everyone who's planning a wedding just, like, complains about it. I think eloping is easy.
I think wedding planning is easy.
For the man.
As a man.
Mm-hmm.
But really, is it, though?
What's your most hardest, difficult decision to make about this wedding planning?
Cutting the invite list in half.
That's one decision you have to make on a person.
There you go.
That's like 150 decisions.
I know.
What's the next hardest thing about planning a wedding?
Well, how much it costs, obviously. That just comes with it. What else is the next hardest thing about planning a wedding? Well, how much it costs, obviously.
That just comes with it.
What else is the next hardest thing?
Location.
Location.
Okay.
So we've narrowed it down to a few locations in the same country.
And now we just need to figure out which part of the country we want to go to,
how much one place costs versus another.
the country we want to go to, how much one place costs versus another. And then we really need to figure out who's on the cut list. And that's the hardest thing because I want to invite everybody.
I also want to invite everybody. Budget wise, it doesn't make sense. I've already had a big
wedding. I'm not doing that again. And it just it's unnecessary. So it's coming along. We just
the guest list, our wedding planner emailed us two nights ago. And she was,
so do you have your guest list yet? I need all of the emails. But I was like, no, no, no,
not even close. Like, we have the guest list. It's just 256 people, which we need to cut in half.
What's the hardest part about you cutting people?
Because here's the thing when it's like, my dad's side of the family. What's the hardest part about you cutting people? Because here's the thing. When it's like
my dad's side of the family,
let's just give that
as an example.
Obviously, I want
all of my cousins there
because I'm close
with all of my cousins.
But then I'm also close
with their girlfriends
and fiancés.
But then it's like,
do I invite every aunt and uncle?
And if I invite
every aunt and uncle,
then I have to invite
their spouses
and then their kids.
And so it's like,
where do I draw the line?
Do I only invite the cousins?
Or when you have favorite cousins and you like don't invite the cousins
that you don't like as much, I feel like.
Where do you draw the line?
How do I invite three cousins and not two?
I think you draw the line because they're your family, first and foremost.
So they should understand and respect your decisions.
Secondly, the best thing about family is they love you unconditionally.
So they should, well, then if they don't, then why are we putting effort into bringing them to a wedding?
You know, so I think, I think you have to understand that like your friends,
even if they don't get to come to the wedding, they're still going to celebrate our marriage.
You know, they're still going to support you. Same as your family.
Here's the thing. I think what I would feel better about doing is because we didn't have
an engagement party.
We don't need to have
an engagement party.
But maybe we have
a post-wedding celebration
in LA
that everyone else can come to.
That's something where
it's not like we're having
to front the cost.
You know,
like we go to Tom Tom.
Everyone meet us at Tom Tom.
I have Richardson
reserve the garden
at Tom Tom for us
and we have a celebration
with everyone
because then
everyone's invited. They're all paying for their own
drinks. They're paying for their own food.
We might have to find a different venue, but we'll work on it.
You get what I'm saying. I feel
like that might be
the move. But we're going to go from having
I guess. I don't know.
I like that. I think we can send everyone who got
cut like an invitation that looks like a wedding invitation
but when they open it, it's just to the party in LA.
Yeah.
They still have something to hang on the fridge.
Oh, this is so hard.
Like, I was hanging out with people the other night, and I'm like, oh, you're on the B list.
But, like, we're friends.
They were friends.
They're friends.
Oh, and then one of them was even mentioning the wedding to me, and I'm like, stop talking.
Yeah, that's awkward.
This is a PSA to all of our family.
I don't care to come to any of their weddings.
So if they're listening to this, like, yeah, you can put me on the beat.
My family gets it.
My family gets it, you know, and we both.
But your family's also coming from much further away.
Correct.
So that's different.
If we're, yeah.
Next question.
Okay, anyways. Next question. Okay.
Anyway, are you guys having a big bridal party or will it just be you two up on the altar?
So I wanted it to just be us two.
And then groomzilla over here is like, well, I've never had a wedding.
I want groomsmen.
I want a best man.
I want this.
I want that.
Well, I just want that experience.
I know.
And everyone deserves that experience.
So I'm more than willing to accommodate that.
But it has to be an even number for photos, I said.
We have six as a number.
Yeah.
And Summer's obviously going to be the flower girl.
Yes.
She's going to be so cute.
She's going to be so cute.
We need to figure out the ring bearer still.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you guys going to…
Are you…
Not you guys.
Are you going to change your last name once you guys get married?
Legally, yes.
Totally.
And then we will just go by Sheena Marie.
Well, and then I realized—
I didn't even realize this when I gave—
When we chose Moon for Summer's middle name,
but her and I all have the same initials.
That's funny.
Sheena Marie, Summer Moon, Honey Davies.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that's cute.
That's really cute.
What is that?
Shma with a D behind it? Shaking my head. Shaking my head. And then Yeah. So that's cute. That's really cute. What is that? Shmeh with a D behind it?
Shaking my head.
Shaking my head.
And then.
There was a worse one.
There's a worse one.
What?
Never mind.
I'm not going to say it because that's not her initials.
Okay.
There's an H in it.
So.
Good to know.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So getting.
Oh, shit.
Okay. All right. Good to know. Okay. okay all right okay getting away from the wedding stuff a little bit going back to like what
everyone saw this season sheena are you disheartened by all the comments about you and brock have they
hurt your relationship at all they've not hurt our relationship it's just frustrating when people judge on not the full story. I got a really nice message today on Patreon.
I want to give her a shout out.
Heather Johnson sent me a really sweet message
and said that she's not a casual viewer of the show.
She said, Brock was not a new cast member to me.
I've known him for over a year and a half
through YouTube and shenanigans before this season aired.
I don't view him or your relationship in the way so many people do and went on and continued to
say more sweet things. So thank you, Heather. That was so sweet. And that's where I'm like,
people who have been with us from the beginning of my YouTube channel and listening to the podcast,
I don't think they had the same view, even hearing all of the quote unquote red flags,
you know? So it's frustrating when people just only watch the show. They don't do any research outside of it, which they don't have to. It's a TV show for entertainment. I get it. But when they
just give their opinion based on the few minutes of an edit you see of him, it frustrates me. And
I feel the need to say, well, actually, that's not true. This is and I try not to let it frustrates me and I feel the need to say well actually that's not true
this is and I'm I try not to let it get to me but then sometimes I just have fun on Twitter and I
just like I went on a blocking spree last week I was like block block negative things say block
I know you posted about it I was gonna say it kind of reminds me of like when you watch a TV
show and you don't like someone's character and then people end up like hating that actor because of it. Right. That's how you know you're a really good actor though.
If you as a person. Except for that hating. You're like, you did a really good job at your role.
The problem is I'm not acting. I'm just, I can be, I can be short. I can be opinionated and I can
not care about other person's response, but because it's not my responsibility
for how you react.
You react regardless.
Someone, if you, if you pick up a stray dog and that dog gets abused and you go to pat
the dog and you take a hand to the face, it's going to respond to you.
Not because of me, because of what, what its perspective of where that dog's raised and
how it was raised.
And I'm not saying humans are like dogs or like animals.
I'm just saying sometimes I do paint this narrative like,
I don't care, like they can deal with it.
And people find that offensive because deep down I do care,
but at the same time I don't want to process
and spend this time really filtering myself that much
if I feel like I'm correct with what I'm saying.
And sometimes I'm not correct,
but at least I can acknowledge that after the fact.
But the problem is when you see a show like this,
they don't have time to show a 40-minute conversation.
Of course not. It's snippets. And you know what?
On the snippets, I'm very short and I know
that and it doesn't help with my arrogance
to be like, well, fuck it. That's my personality.
Yeah, that's true. And especially when I drop the F-bomb,
people get real offended by that.
So I'll do better on the cussing.
So, forks, knives, and spoons
from now on. What? Forks, knives, and spoons from now on.
What?
Forks, knives, and spoons from now on.
That's what you're going to say instead?
Yes.
I mean, I could, whatever.
Okay.
I'll be better.
Whatever.
I love that.
Okay.
And I finish it with whatever.
Whatever.
And that's exactly the personality.
That's the problem.
It's intimidating, I think, when people,
like I know who I am and I know my past and I knew that.
I think,
you know.
At the end of the day,
you know,
I'm just thankful
that people are watching the show.
They're relating to the show.
They're enjoying
the entertainment of the show.
That's honestly
what really matters.
I just wish
they were a little nicer.
I would like that,
but I got a question for you.
How many people,
how many comments
do you think you get per post or per, like, thing question for you. How many people, how many comments do you think you get
per post or per like thing?
Per week.
How many in one week
you reckon,
cumulatively,
negative comments
do you think you can get?
Oof, the last few weeks?
Yeah.
It's been a lot.
Yeah, but how,
what are we talking?
But usually,
I mean,
it's one to two negative
to every 15 positive.
So we're looking at,
what, like 20,000,
60,000 a month? A week? Oh, I don't know. I don't like doing math. Oh, God. Let we're looking at, what, like 20,000, 60,000 a month, a week?
I don't know. I don't like doing math.
Let's just say, for example, it's 100,000 negative
comments. 780,000
people watched the show last week.
Actually, it was 880,000.
Okay, so there you go. So 730 of them
didn't comment.
No, I see what you're saying. In the grand scheme
of things, it's way more positive.
And no one goes on to Yelp reviews and writes,
oh my God, this is so great.
That's so true.
There has to be an incentive to say something nice.
Yeah.
Otherwise, you're just going to go and complain about what happened.
You guys are complaining about something that I'm very aware of.
So thank you for bringing it to light.
And just enjoy watching because I look forward to proving you guys wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah, simple.
Okay, so there's a lot of baby questions too.
Do y'all want to have another baby? i getting another niece or nephew i do yeah obviously obviously i want to work on my
my two relations with my older two as well yeah but they uh i definitely will look forward to
having one or two or you know i think in a couple of years. Originally, before I had any complications, I had such a great pregnancy.
There were no complications until obviously we were in labor.
I was thinking that like this summer, we would try to get pregnant again.
So they were like pretty close in age.
Oh my God, that's so soon.
Like absolutely not.
Brittany was thinking that too.
And then we're like, whew, that's like around the corner. Pause on that. So absolutely not. Brittany was thinking that too. And then we're like, whew, that's like around the corner.
Pause on that.
So absolutely not.
Next summer, I think would be the soonest we would consider.
But also I got a few offers for surrogates after the show aired.
I had these women reach out who are like from San Dimas,
like our hometown and said she had a few really good pregnancies and
just loved being pregnant. She's like, I would love, you know, the opportunity to carry your
child if it's something that you know, you would want and you don't want to do it yourself because
of all the complications. I was like, let's let's stay in touch. And I've had a couple other women
that I'm like, okay, I mean, how does that work?, you still have to go through a whole legal process.
Like, I mean, it's a lot.
Because my biggest one when it comes to that,
and I don't know if there's science behind this or backdoor
can help us out with this decision,
but like Summer, when we look at our child right now,
she's just like, she's just ultimately on point, you know?
But then if we have another child that's opposite that's colicky does that
come from like how she was how she was raised in the uterus in the womb like is it from the
environment the stresses that were put upon that person carrying i'd say probably not if this woman
has a normal pregnancy and doesn't do anything outside of things that sheena would do i feel like
any way that they would act as an infant would be like genetic.
I just said that out loud and I realized we raised her
and she was in our craziness and she came out perfect.
So I realized the amount of shit she said,
we're right there.
No, but I do believe in the energy being passed on,
you know, like I tried to meditate so much
during my pregnancy
and I tried to keep my anxieties at a minimum
and I tried to just stay calm as much as possible when it was really hard after having a miscarriage.
So I do believe in energy like transferring into the baby.
But I think you'd probably try to find a surrogate who has similar beliefs as you.
Yeah, I agree.
I think that's, yeah, I think it would take a little time to go down that conversation.
But yes.
Because I even was thinking like now that it's been, you know, nine months, I'm like, you know, I could probably I could do this again. But then when I watched the reunion back and just saw myself talking about what happened, I was like, I don't want to do this again ever. Like, no, no, no. Like right when I think I'm over it, and I could totally do this again. And it just it freaks me out. And I just don't I don't know that I would put myself at risk. So let's just pray this IUD works
and we can revisit this next year.
I also want Summer to be fully potty trained
and talking at least a little bit
before we have another.
Like I want her to understand
a new sibling is coming into the picture
and like she's potty trained.
I don't want to be changing a toddler's diapers
and a newborn's diapers.
Have you ever Googled that?
Like how old are they
when they can like understand
that there's a new sibling coming?
Because I know we Googled
like certain things
like how old does a baby have to be
to recognize itself in the mirror?
And it said like 18 months.
Yeah.
So I wonder how old
they have to be to understand
that they have like a new baby on the way.
Like well, our neighbors in San Diego,
they're pregnant right now.
Their daughter just turned two. And I think she fully understands that she has a new baby on the way. Like, well, our neighbors in San Diego, they're pregnant right now. Their daughter just turned two.
And I think she fully understands
that she has a new sister coming.
Aw, that's so cute.
So I'm like, that's a good age gap.
I think at least like two to three years.
So they can still like be in high school together.
But I still have time to just enjoy it with summer.
And I can't imagine her starting to walk,
still being in diapers,
and then me having a newborn.
No.
And the every three hours waking up,
I just, oh, I can't imagine that again anytime soon.
Yeah, no.
It sounds like a lot.
But I do want her to grow up with a little sibling.
Yeah, totally.
This person wants to know,
how do you drink and breastfeed?
So, I mean, I don't drink like,
wow. Here's the thing. Actually, I have drank before while breastfeeding because the lactation consultant said, if you're going to have a glass of wine, do it while you're nursing
or while you're pumping, because it takes about 20 minutes to get in your system. So I remember
there was one time, remember we're sitting at the Grove and he ordered me an Aperol Spritz,
but I was like, I still have to nurse her.
And he's like, so nurse her now.
And then I'm like, that's all I need
is someone to take a photo of me
with an Aperol Spritz in one hand,
baby on the tit in the other.
Yeah, that'd be bad.
But either I will have a drink like right as I'm pumping
because as I'm expressing the milk,
the alcohol isn't in it yet.
If I drink more than three drinks,
which I've only done a handful of times, I dump
my milk. I hate dumping my milk. It hurts my soul. So I have these little alcohol test strips that I
can test the milk to see if there's alcohol still in it. And then that's when I've dumped it. But
now I just, especially since she stopped latching, I don't want to waste any of my milk. So I never
drink enough that I would have to dump it. And then I wait the like four hours and then I pump again.
You've been sober pretty much since you slept.
It's been a minute.
Yeah, but there have been a few times when I've let loose,
like the finale being one of them.
The Steelers-Chargers game being another.
A handful of times, but honey, you've done so well the whole time.
Thanks, honey.
How have the kitties been this summer?
Are they adjusting well?
Salem is so patient with her.
He's so good with her.
She, I've like, I should,
I should have started it as a highlight,
like a series of Summer just terrorizing Salem.
You can go back.
Okay, yeah, I want to go back.
Summer and Salem, like part one, part two,
her chasing him and the walker.
But I mean, he is so patient with her.
She can like.
He likes it. Yeah, he loves the attention. Yeah, he mean, he is so patient with her. He likes it.
Yeah, he loves the attention.
Yeah, he would hide if he didn't like it.
No, physical touch is definitely that cat's love language.
Penny, she kind of more so keeps to herself.
But she's still so good with her too.
They've never tried to scratch her.
Salem will try to cuddle Summer sometimes
when she's like laying by us.
But they're very good with her.
We're really lucky.
I was terrified of that too.
Does Summer hang out with Ocean Hartford and Cruz?
Yeah.
They go playdates?
Yeah, they have playdates.
We went to the park a couple weeks ago.
I mean, now that we're back in San Diego,
we have to like actually plan the times
that we can get together when we drive up.
But she's had so many playdates with them
and I'm so excited to just be able to see
them grow up together like they have built-in best friends and they're all the same age and
especially once they all turn one and they're all walking they're all gonna seem the same age
yeah right now they're still it's like Hartford is definitely older she's the only one walking
so and then the other three are like still similar but I feel like once they get past the year mark
they're just all the same age yeah and they all had parents that like went through the same thing so I'm
sure they'll all be able to bond about that definitely and then one of my last questions was
um what is one piece of advice you would give summer moon about life oh why do you guys look
at me straight away because it's a question for both of us but I want to hear your answer first
he's like I wasn't prepared advice I would give summer is just yeah I But I want to hear your answer first. He's like, I wasn't prepared. Advice I would give Summer
is just,
I mean,
I want her to believe
in herself.
That's it.
That's what I was going to say.
I'm going to teach her
that, you know,
failure is a way of learning
and it's not wrong
to do things.
It's just learning
from those experiences.
So I don't know
how I'm going to do that
to an eight-month-old,
nine-month-old,
but I've got some ideas. As she gets older. As she gets older, that's why I want to install on her.
That's my goal. But apart from that, what was the advice from her? Just, I mean, she's going to,
I'm going to let her do whatever she wants. She's going to learn from her own lessons.
Yeah. Is that your style of parenting? You're going to let her figure it out on her own?
He will. Yeah. She'll figure it out. She'll be fine. And then if she's not fine, I'll be there.
yeah yeah figure it out she'll be fine and then if she's not fine I'll be there you know and that's that's my style what do you got honey I just I yeah I want her to always have confidence but I
also want her to always feel comfortable coming to us with anything like I always want to have
an open line of communication for her I don't want her to ever be afraid to tell us if she did
something that she thinks she's going to get in trouble for I don't want her to ever be afraid to tell us if she did something that she thinks she's going to get in trouble for. I don't want her to feel like she has to have straight A's.
Like, I want her to just be comfortable and confident and to always be able to come to us with anything.
Because I had that type of relationship with my parents, and I definitely want her to feel that same way.
Then you guys can't be scary, or else she'll be scared to tell you.
Who's scary?
I don't know.
I think.
Y'all think I'm scary.
I think both of you could be scary.
I could be.
I could be honest.
I could be honest.
You don't like honesty.
That's what scares you guys about how I'm brutally honest.
I just think you need to.
Have empathy.
As a girl, dad.
Yeah.
That too.
Yeah.
But she has me wrapped around her finger.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
And I do have empathy.
But I won't.
I'll draw the line when empathy enables anything else but confidence because too much empathy shadows and
overtakes and leans into what's the word i'm trying to look for when someone becomes um
oh um wait i know what you're trying to say anyway Anyway. No, now it's going to bother me.
What are you trying to say?
I'm just trying to say that, listen, I don't think I'm firm.
I'm very soft and I understand everything because I've done everything
and so have you.
So I'm never going to come from like a judgmental place.
I will be very firm with getting my point across
and making sure she understands that there's other opinions about
the subject and people don't like that sometimes people want to be no you're wrong i'm right and
you should never be it should never be an i'm right you're wrong situation in conversations
it's that's how you feel this is how i feel and learn from how you feel and learn how i feel
and if we can leave it at that leave it at at that. Yeah. Okay. If that makes me an asshole for being very clear,
then I'll be the asshole for being very clear.
When you and Summer have a disagreement,
we could just like refer back to this podcast
and she could hear it how you just said it.
You could just word burn it and say,
Dad, you said, and no, I think I'll be fine with that.
Like I still, even when she's little,
like now I'm trying to teach her stuff
and I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one out.
Yeah.
And then once she starts talking back to me, then I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one out. Yeah. And then once she starts talking back to me, then I'm like, oh, you'll figure that one
out.
Doesn't work either.
She's going to do that for sure.
For sure.
Well, because you're going to allow her to play me like a fiddle.
You'll be like, I will say yes, but you got to ask your dad and then you pin her against
me.
That's what you're going to do.
I'm not pinning her against you.
I'm just letting you be the final say.
But instead of being a united front.
On some things we will be for sure. We should always be united front. Okay, I'll try my best.
But that doesn't help me either. I'm not going to put her against you. Like, I'll say yes,
but go see your mom. Because then she'll ask you and you'll say yes. Okay, okay. I'll see when you
flip it that way, then. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. We're on the same page. We're on the same page.
Listen, there's a plan we have to raise in our children.
Let's see how that rolls out.
Definitely.
All right. Well, thank you, Courtney, for mediating the questions.
Of course.
Thank you, honey, for being my guest and co-host and everything.
Hopefully everyone enjoys the Q&As apparently.
Yeah.
I mean, we always get so many questions.
So I figure that, you know, we'll do these semi-regularly,
just general Q&As about a little bit of everything, you know,
go back to the show.
People always have questions about that, whether it's on air or not.
I feel like the show is kind of like our life.
It's like the main thing we're doing.
The show is our life.
Yeah.
I really hope it comes back and you guys see this.
I think the show really has got to show a lot of journey right now
because the boys have their bar opening up.
The girls have their sandwich stop opening up.
You and Lala and Raquel are single and James.
Did you just say me?
I said Lala and Raquel.
He said you and Lala and Raquel are single.
Okay, Lala, Raquel, and James are single.
You and Lala have kids to raise.
And I think there's a lot going on and hopefully people want to see that.
And I really look forward to following along and seeing how everyone grows from there.
Definitely.
Got a lot of things going on.
But thank you for having me on here, honey.
And hopefully I cleared it up.
I can't be an asshole.
You're just always clarifying it.
Just clarifying it. I'm an asshole. You're just always clarifying it. Just clarifying it.
I'm an asshole.
With a heart.
With a heart.
That is true.
Thank you guys so much for listening.
We will be back next week getting into some more shenanigans here at Dear Media.
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