Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Ralphing about Rachel with Nema Vand

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

This week, Scheana is back in NYC with good friend & fellow Bravolebrity, Nema Vand from “Shahs of Sunset,” and the identity of the Coachella informant is finally revealed!! Between bouts of food poisoning, Nema soldiers through and dishes on dating Rachel last year (yes, that Rachel), the project he recently worked on with Ariana, who from Shahs is a scumbag, & many more juicy tidbits about Scandoval and the Bravo-verse. What other Bravo talent has Nema dated?! Plus, Scheana & Nema debate how many dates they actually went on! Tune in to find out!    Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.   Go to www.factormeals.com/teamariana50 and use code teamariana50 to get 50% off your first box  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Welcome back to Shenanigans in New York City. I was just saying on my vlog intro, I feel like this is now my second home for the podcast. I've been here so many times in the last month. For those of you watching, I'm wearing my new merch. Justice is served. And we've got one of my favorite people on this planet in the chair across from me here at WTF Studios, Mr. Nima Vand. I'm always excited when you come to New York City. Me too. It's always, can we tell the audience that I'm not feeling that well? Yes. I came off. He's not feeling good as gold. Yes. Great plug in. I came

off a production, a red eye last night. Yeah. They got a little food poisoning, but because you're in New York, this is a student. This is an occasion. So I were powering through today. I also skipped a Yankees game in a suite tonight because we already had this podcast scheduled. We're recording it just a couple days before it comes out and work comes first. Yankees come after that. And I was already at a Padres game. I threw out the first pitch. I don't think it gets much better than that in baseball this week.

Yeah, that's a great stadium too. San Diego. Oh my gosh. It was an actual literal dream come true for me you and Ariana doing that awesome so you gotta do that with my best friend a sport that I played my entire life basically I started playing baseball when I was seven yeah I think people in the podcast know about your aunt but like I don't think like the instagram world knew about your aunt yeah so good old great aunt shirley was an original rockford peach she's in the movie a league of their own and for those of you watching i'm going to pop up her baseball card right here she was a legend she

passed away last year and i was just like oh if only she could have seen me do that it's something i always talked about doing and the the Padres made it happen. So safe to say I am a Padres man. And this is like your sixth or seventh New York trip in the last like three months. Literally, I've been here so much. Is it New York? I love it. It is the best.

It's the best. If you don't live in New York City, like I was such an L.A. guy. I was in L.A. forever. Like I was an L.A. apologist. I still am an L.A. apologist. Like the teams I love. But I was such a like, no, fuck apology i still am an la apologist like the teams i love but i was such a like no new york like la is the best they're all the cliches all the cliches are true like there's something so magical i i actually think my like energy as a human being

shifted from new york city yeah like the product the people that i was around the work that i'm doing just the city in general like yeah i mean I honestly wish I would have come here when I was like 24. If you're listening to this and you're like 22 to 28, like move to New York City, do it, do a year. Yeah. I was driving past like NYU to get here. And I was just thinking, what a fun college experience. Like I would love for summer to have an actual legitimate college experience. Cause I went to college, I graduated, I got my broadcast journalism degree and all of that, but it was a small private Christian university. There were no sororities. It was like, if we wanted to go to a frat party, we would go to LA and go to UCLA. And I cannot picture you at a Christian university. Yeah. I can't like,

cause I feel those are so buttoned up and I feel like you would just be out there like singing good as gold and just like, you know, like making out with people or like having you living your life. Cause in college I was wild. I mean, I was doing most of that, not singing good as gold. The song wasn't out yet, but making out with the baseball team for sure. Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.

Yeah. So you were just in LA. I got the pleasure. I've seen you. Yeah. One of my favorite people in LA and in New York all in the same week. I love this week. I mean, so like directing is a thing.

I'm not going to bore the audience with directing. No one fucking cares. I get it. It's a drag. I care. I appreciate that. But it's a really cool thing when directing crosses over to like the Bravo world. Yeah.

And I'm out of the Bravo world now. But like we had a client. I'm not going to say it. It's about Friday, right? Yeah. So Duracell had a campaign i'm not gonna say it's about friday right yeah so duracell had a campaign with ariana and when they found out duracell's obviously a client of vayner when they found out that like i knew ariana we were all sort of part of the same group of friends it was just like oh yeah like we

want her to feel comfortable like we should do that yeah and it was a real like world's crossing because i don't know if you know this but in the agency world when they like pitch an idea to a client this is every ad agency they send a deck like production companies agencies they fucking love decks and it's usually like the brand here's the idea here's how we're going to go about it and it's like they're trying to get the client to understand the vision and like dabs stat on page number two like giant photo obviously was the context of like why this is what what what is happening in the vanderverse right someone should fucking coin that vanderverse is that a thing vanderverse yeah oh my god no it's like the multiverse yeah well so they like

you're explaining and literally on page two a giant photo of ariana raquel and Tom just like on in my email in my inbox and I was like this is a fucking weird life moment you know like here I'm having a like a conversation with a client about like a girl that I used to hang out with thanks to you nobody would have we'll get into the Raquel of it all nobody would have ever known that wasn't for you but yeah so it's like you're starting to see I think is like Vanderpump and the Vanderverse. I'm going to trademark that. As the Vanderverse starts to expand, you're going to start seeing like real media. Yeah. Like brands.

I mean, you guys at Uber One, that's a huge fucking thing. Uber One is good. So it's like you're going to start seeing more of that. And so I feel like there's going to be a lot more cross-pollinization between me. Because if you're a director, if they want a director. I mean, I hope so. Yeah. I keep telling Sheena, like, I want to do one with you.

Yeah. Because if you're going to direct something. Put me in, coach. Why not? Why not? And you actually have like legit acting. What did I just see of you? Oh my God.

Was it the Jonas Brothers pizza girl? The Jonas Brothers. And I've known you for years. And like, I think I might be the only person that did not know that. And when I tell you, I was in my bed in new york city high off edible and i watched that entire video like in i was like oh my god like the music video or the like full episode no the music video oh okay you're like oh i watched the video i watched the song in love with you and i was like how the fuck did this never come up? So yeah.

So I think you're going to see a lot more of that. Ariana was amazing, by the way. She's so sweet. Yeah. So sweet. So you were directing a commercial in LA at Ariana's house. And I know you had a bit of an awkward run in. Yeah.

At the house. I mean, look, you guys are my friends, right? And I know you guys to varying degrees. I'm really close with you. I know Ariana kind of, you know, but like varying degrees i'm really close with you i know ariana kinda you know but like one thing that always stuck out with me about her was she was always so nice to me like when i would go to these bravo events um there's a lot of like when you're new there's a lot of like you can't sit with us energy at least in the beginning you know and ariana from

day one every time i met her and that might have been built around you. Like she knew we were cool. So like. No, that's just how she is no matter what. Cool. So it was like she would always come out of her way and be like, how are you doing? Like, how are things? Like, how are you enjoying the process? And I was always like taken back by like how nice of a human being this person was.

So yeah, it was, it was nice. But when you are directing people in the van, was it Vanderverse? Vanderverse. Yeah? Vanderverse. Yeah. Vanderverse. You have to be mindful. Like there are real friendships there. So as we were getting ready for the shoot, we're inside of Ariana's house.

Like we're shooting at her house. It's a, it's a very sort of like, it's an intimate space. We're coming into your home. We're there for a few hours. We have a clear script. Ariana's a pro. And by now the campaign is out and it's a really fun creative thing about the batteries i know so no it was so fun seeing you

in la because we haven't hung out in la in years forever like pre-pandemic yeah probably yeah no you actually you came over once to my hollywood apartment when summer was a baby and we went to that italian restaurant we podcasted from there was that pr or ar piece that together that was pr okay because brock was there yes yeah yeah yeah yeah and it was like janet i think jamie whatever correct janet and jamie were there yeah so i think jamie did the podcast with us and then you drank my breast milk oh my god that's disgusting i remember you but you did it you gave us a shot of it and it wasn't bad yeah but it's just like now i'm gonna let's no gross disgusting as he feels already all right so so yeah now you're back in new york you have fully set up an awesome life in new york

your place is gorgeous. The view. I got a whole water. I got a whole water situation. It's so good. Like that's the dream. So how much are you loving living in the city? Because I know you wanted to move for so long.

Yeah, I think I think like I outgrew L.A. a little bit. And I think Bravo had a little bit to do with that. Bravo in some ways like raised me up. I was post-divorce and they were like, we're gonna give a platform and a voice and it's gonna be this really cool thing yeah but stuff like mona was super dishonest and disingenuous and like that's why i think i'm always like there's a little bit of a chip on my shoulder for that and then you had like scumbags like reza who like led into that and would talk about it so sheena doesn't want to say anything see that face i'm just listening i'm here to ask the questions. You're here to talk. You have people like him and he's a scumbag.

And he would like kind of like dig that more in reunions. Like Shaw's had this like really horrible season eight reunion. It was during the pandemic. Andy literally told us like I did not, when we did in the season nine, he was like, I did not think there would be a season nine after that. He was like, that is the worst reunion i've ever experienced with you guys and one of the worst i've ever experienced on brothel because it was like there was there's a lot of love on your cast and like it weaves between the hate and the frustration and i think that's what makes it good in that moment on shaw's it

was like 95 like just disdain for each other and like five 5% like, okay, we actually do care about each other, but like we really don't fucking get along anymore. And like that's, and that was what Andy was feeling. He was like, I could not believe there was a season nine. I remember her, Paige DeSorbo told me, my favorite story, she was like, Bravo was telling her like, you know, Summer House shouldn't be like something,

it's getting a little dark. Like we gotta make it more fun, you guys. And she was like, she was like, I literally was like the cast of shah's a sunset like has literal fucking restraining orders against each other and like and we're like arguing at a bar and now and now you guys are in the club so it's like wow like two we're both together on this so yeah yeah that was how it was at that time and it's it's so so you go into new york it's very much a reset in a lot of ways. I'm directing full time.

I'm trying to get into TV and movie. That's the goal. I think we're like two years away from that. And it's a little bit of like, oh yeah, like I get to control the narrative now. Like, oh yeah. Like that whole, like you making jokes about my family or like the car that I drive or like, you know, Bravo is full of poser energy. That's why I fuck with people like you is because you're authentically who you are.

Like you authentically recorded that song. You authentically sang it at Sir. People are going to love that or hate that, but like you don't give a fuck. 10 years later, here we are. Uber One is good. Yeah, so like you're laughing less, but like MJ is the same way, right?

MJ is authentically, I mean, like we've talked about this. I've seen her cans a hundred times. Like she is exactly what you, but when you have people on the show who are like faking storylines and trying to be all like present a certain way and I'm coming on the show just to like have fun and tell my life and live this authentically, it gets really hard to like want to play the game. You know what I mean?

Cause it's like, Oh, I'm flexing with Bravo money that like you were selling houses before you did this. And now you're pretending that you're some like majillionaire. This is Bravo money that's paying for it. Like, I just, I don't respect that. And so coming into New York where everybody is like at the top of their game, but they're also like kind, like they're nice people.

Like I genuinely appreciate it. Yeah. But every time I get sucked back into the Bravo verse and it's like literally Al Pacino, like right when I think I'm out, they like pull me back in. It's because of you. You literally pull me back in every single, yes.

So I'm to blame for Paige? Huh? Did I loop you in there? Paige was on the low. Paige was on the low. Paige and I went on like two dates ever. But I'm just saying, that Bravoverse did not come from me. That was MJ though.j what about jules that didn't come from me who the hell

is jules don't blame everything oh yeah no but i don't talk about that shit i don't post that i went on no it just came up on your reunion so i know it's been out there mj did me dirty on that that was so funny i know can we get your permission to show a photo of you for the shots of sunset reunion i was like, done. And yeah, it's so funny because like the different reactions all of you had. Sheena was like, hell yeah. And then like Jules was like nervous. And then Paige was like, her text was like, um, hi.

I was like, which by the way, like I love Craig. I don't want to, I don't, I didn't want anything. I didn't want her to think I was going on there and like, oh yeah, look at me. No, it didn't seem like that at all. You didn't even bring it up. They did. And so when I gave her the contact she was like oh that's amazing yeah great signed it no problem no it was so funny speaking of difference of dating in la versus new york i hate new york dating hate it hate it hate it hate it the girls are the dates both a little bit you. I would say in LA, people value wellness and beauty and taking care of yourself a lot. In New York, people value money and success and career, which is amazing, right?

And that's how it should be. But I want to find the balance of the two. That's the key. I got that. So typically when you go on dates in New York, what's your like go to? Do you do dinner? Do you have certain spots you go to?

I don't do any dinners at all. No dinner. I don't want to commit to a dinner. I think it's awkward for both sides. Okay. I don't want to sit for two and a half hours and like have a meal with you. And like a long dinner. Well, two hours is a standard dinner,izer a couple drinks entrees you know i still

want to do that like i don't i think it's it's too much pressure too fast to spend time with someone okay so ideal new york date give the new york listeners some fun things to do if they're looking to a lounge any kind of lounge is really good so like a soho house of zero bond yeah bar veronica any place you can go get a drink and hang and talk for an hour and a half, two hours that ideally sells food. So if you're having fun, you'd be like, oh, cool. Let's get something to eat. You don't want to like be like committed to a meal. I'm not trying to share a tiramisu with you when I met you three hours ago on Raya.

You know what I mean? Like I'm not trying to have that conversation. No, that's a good point. Yeah. Like I got to have an exit strategy. And by the way, like, so do you. Like I could be, i could be you could be like i fucking hate this guy and that's a real thing for girls like you're going into the

has that happened to you never i was gonna say i honestly can't knowing you so well and having also gone on dates with you like i can't see a girl being like two dates ever and she mentioned it was like five shall we count them no it was two, it was not. We like Brock, so we don't want to talk about it. But I will tell you, I'm a really good date. And so I always tell people, like, if I have a bad date, which does happen rarely, it's you. Like, it's not me. It's 100%. I know that I can, like, stomach a two-hour thing.

Unless I have food poisoning. I'm, like, suffering right now. But, yeah. Well, I do want to get a little more into your dating life that involved me, but we're just going to take a quick little break first. All right. Now that it's summer, you might be looking for wholesome, convenient meals for sunny, active days. Factor is America's number one ready to eat meal kit that can help you fuel up fast with flavorful and nutritious, ready to eat meals delivered straight to your door. You guys are going to save time, eat well, and stay on track reaching your goals. So if you're like me and Brock, and you're a little too busy with your summer plans to cook,

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What just fucking happened? So, we're back. Explain literally what just happened. I had to take a break because Nima had to get up and literally probably just lost four pounds in her trash can. I told you I had food poisoning. I knew it. Whenever I get the shakes like this, you can see me.

I know I have it. And so I was coming here and I was like, oh man. Look at my leg. You just got to power through it. Just fucking power through it. And then like 20 minutes in, I was like, oh, that's it. It's a wrap. But we still had a little more to discuss.

She's like, that's great, dude. Back to the show. I'm like, I got a podcast to do tonight. Yeah. Uber One is paying. While we're here. Yeah. Speaking of that.

We're going to just power through a little more because there's just. Well, there's an elephant in the room there is because i have i will protect you to the death i will always keep anything you tell me you don't want to spread a secret i trust you with everything and there's been things that I have said on the show this season and I've never said your name and since we decided to do a podcast this week I was like well maybe I don't think you need to beat around the bush I also think the audience doesn't deserve that I think the reality this is in April last year April yeah it was April because Coachella was April of last year april yeah it was april because coachella was april of last year yeah i i had like a one month hang with raquel yes right and that was that was what went down

and you really kind of pushed that you were like really into but i was also like in the beginning i'm like she's cute she's fun like why not so this all came up right raquel and i are sitting at a bar in Hollywood one night. She's depressed over James. She's afraid to get back in the dating world. She doesn't want to go on any apps. And I was like, you know what? I have the perfect guy for you.

And it's perfect because he doesn't even live in LA. But the next time he's in LA or the next time we're in New York, let's set up a date. I've been on a few dates with him. More than two. More than two. I like there was two in one day that's one it doesn't matter it doesn't matter anyway a few and i was like he's such a gentleman great conversation like he is the perfect person to go on a first date with she ended up

going like a peter madrigal route as well which i thought was after wasn't it it was but like for the show like that was also like the first it was great for her to date him because i was like they were friends and yes do it so i pushed it and you went for it we were supposed to come out to new york i was in a place in my life where i was just like i'm single i'm thriving yeah why not cute girl why not totally so we made plans to come to new york to actually see a tom sandoval's in the most extras concert but our flight got delayed delayed delayed canceled i was like we're not supposed to be in new york there yeah i was wondering why he was at your live taping yeah i met raquel at a live taping for sheena and i literally met her in the green

room i was doing the show raquel was doing the show we had met anecdotally in la met her in the green room. I was doing the show. Raquel was doing the show. We had met anecdotally in LA. Yeah. But in the green room, it was like, hi, nice to meet you. By the way, like what's going on? Like we've been texting a little bit. Yeah, because the trip before that was the one that got canceled. Right. So then we're all back in New York.

You guys hang out, yada, yada, yada, whatever. But well, there's a couple of things lost in that yada. Yes, that's not gloss over the yada, yada, whatever. But. Well, there's a couple things lost in that yada. Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's not gloss over the yadas. So I want to get to that because that show was in May. So to set the scene. Yep. It was the night before Hannah Burner's wedding, I believe. We went to Hannah Burner's wedding.

That was May 13th. So we're mid-May. Yep. Coachella was about a month before. Yep. You and Raquel, because that's how you knew her. She's now Rachel to us. I can say Rachel.

I don't care. Perfect. Yeah. You and Rachel, at the time, started hanging out, and she told you a story about Coachella, which I repeated to Ariana. I repeated on the reunion, but I didn't even give you a gender. I just said, this person.

Let me just back this up. Because I didn't want to. we hung out. Vibes were not there. I slowly pulled away, but I think I did it in a respectful way. I don't think I was like, I didn't ghost her. I just was like, I got life in New York. You got life in LA. There's no reason for me to be like, I don't like you. Right. I don't need to say that to someone. That's not, that's not a nice thing to say. Yeah. And so it annoyed me that like just this last weekend in la another person who dated her like which is like there's like around the corner there's like another one she's like oh yeah like she was like obsessed with you but actually she said she lost interest in you for she was actually the first thing she said was she lost interest in you and then she kind of changed her story and was like actually he kind

of lost interest in me yeah and i was like was like, well, I have no shame. Like you can you can say whatever you want. I take everyone takes L's in life. If that was true and like she just wasn't feeling it. But yeah, she wasn't feeling it. Life goes on. Yeah. Like that was 100 percent not the case.

And so then while we were hanging out, she was talking about your upcoming season. And she was like, we were like the last day of us hanging out we're walking around the west village which you know i love to do and we just like run into tom schwartz like literally like dead end into him on the street and dave kaplan you know right and they're like we're doing this like fucking happy hour thing come with us that was my first time really like hanging with schwartz and raquel's leaving in three hours back to la and she was like what do I do I'm like push your flight a day we're fucking let's go rage and she was like done so literally push your flight a day we go to this like random bar in Soho it's like Dave and his crew Schwartz Shep uh Taylor his ex

now Austin just a crew of us just like like having like just ripping it yeah ripping it right and she's kind of a little boozy and she's like dude i think schwartz is kind of hot like i think schwartz is like kind of hot now this is at the stage of the game where i'm like this isn't it i'm not into this like i got all just like kind of because i was like yes fun wedding day but let's i was like schwartz is the hottest guy ever you should totally just fucking marry him and like so i just kept bringing up schwartz and it irked her she was like uh i'm here like visiting to like hanging out with you tonight and like i don't want you like talking about another guy to me but it's like well you just

told me you brought it up told me he was hot like are we in the tree of trust or are we not in the tree right i'll think whatever all good so we go back to my place and we're like talking about shorts and that's where she brings up to me for the we're like talking about Schwartz. And that's where she brings up to me for the first time. Like, I kind of want to pursue Schwartz on the show. I do think he's hot. I think she had kind of accepted that.

Like I was pushing her that way. And she's like, what do you think about that? I was like, look, I think do it. If he's single and you're single, like,

you know, you know, as long as you're okay playing into, this is kind of villain energy, right? Like, i don't know what your relationship with katie's like but if they're broken up and she's the one that initiated it like do whatever you need to fucking if you guys are really into each other do it i want to be very transparent that i was pro this courtship and we're talking about like schwartz and she's

like yeah i think it's gonna be katie's but i also don't really care what katie thinks i'm like do it like we all live our shows. And I think when you go on a Bravo show, I hate the thing brings story. I think you have to live unabashedly. Does that make the right word? Where it's like you have no, you don't hold back. If you're like, I want to make out with fucking Schwartz. You're supposed to be authentic.

Then you need to like lean into that. Oh, for the show. Correct. Like, no, that's literally what they hate. I was like, if you are like into Schw's literally what they hate i was like if you are like into schwartz we're here in soho and you're talking about you want to like hook up make out with him and i'm like do it and then like an hour later you're like should i presume on the show i'm like yeah why not you like him in real life do it i'm sorry i don't really care of katie i understand

there's like girl code there but i'm saying from just the purely like objective he's single she's single go so somehow like we start talking and flash forward many, many months. We fizzle out. Show happens. Your wedding comes up. And I was really. But before this. I'm going to get to that.

Okay. I'm going to circle back to what you want. Okay. So your wedding comes up and I was really bummed to miss your wedding. Like I love you and Brock a lot. It was something that I was really upset to not be there for. But it was on a fucking Tuesday. I know. Because like Bravo, you know know this is the world and i was like i

have a we don't have regular nine to five jobs it's cheaper to get married on a weekday correct hey gary i'm gonna go fucking dip the cancun wherever you're on tuesday yeah on a fucking tuesday in cancun i gotta go yeah and like the funny thing is gary probably like fuck yeah go do it but like everyone else underneath them would be like, what? You know what? Like I'm like a Pepsi job. I'm like, what? What is he doing? So I was like, I can't go. And I was texting Raquel.

I was like, yo, I can't go. You know, your booking was a four day booking. If you wanted to book through like your wedding website, it was a four day thing. Right. So I was like, I maybe I was trying to rationalize that. Could I go down Tuesday in and out? And she was like, you could stay with me like in my room. Like you could totally just like maybe we can make it a thing and I was like I'm just gonna put your name on

my room anyway and so I knew at that point I had to like pivot away from this and be like yeah like yeah like maybe but like I just was like backpedaling the fuck out of this because I knew outside of not being man she was stacked that week in Cancun how did she have the time fucking pimp what if you would have came well so of course i had no idea about sandoval i had no idea what was going on with schwartz i knew that it was she was going to pursue none of us had any of sandoval but like she was going to pursue a schwartz thing and i remember calling you and mj who's like my bravo mom she's gonna hate me for saying that but she is and i was like i what they're gonna do because

they're tracking a raquel schwartz story right that's a story bravo track stories is i you were like they're gonna they're gonna want to mic you i knew it the minute you said that i was like i know exactly what's gonna happen they're gonna cut to a shot of me maybe i'm just like sitting there having a drunk moment just like taking in the ocean like like just zenning out having the time of my life and they're gonna cut to like her and Schwartz kissing and then back to me, like lonely, depressed, divorced guy. You know what I mean?

And I told MJ. The scenarios we play out in our heads. MJ was like 100%. When in reality, I would be like, go, like go do that. But I knew that that was going to be twisted the wrong way. So I was like, I can't. For a variety of reasons, beyond just not wanting to be in her room alone, I can so we kind of fizzled out we stayed friends for a while

and you know you lose contact like you don't you check in you like a photo here and there you kind of just fizzle out and then you guys came for watch what happens live the dreaded weekend so i was like cool i haven't seen raquel in a minute i always make time to see you let's all go to soho house yeah you guys so house she sits down and she her energy is so fucking weird like so do you remember i was like what's wrong with you made a comment i think what's wrong with you like what's what's going on she was like that's rude and i was like no i'm not trying to be rude but like it's awkward like we're hanging like having a good time and she's just like and i and maybe this is the leo in me i was like oh this is the first time we've seen each other maybe she feels some sort of way because i didn't reciprocate feelings and it's just an uncomfortable situation so i was like oh thank god sheen is here she'll just kind of like

break the tension you went to the bathroom once and we had a little bit more of a relax she got a glass of wine in her she calmed down little did we know right so you went to the bathroom she had a glass of wine we've all had a drink and she's like oh it's so good to see you like it's now we're normalizing a little bit right i'm like yeah we're back to normal great all good the next day sheena's like yeah do you want to come to watch happens live and i was like no i don't because my first year in new york anytime a friend came i would go and i was like this is and i was going to support you guys like i genuinely like don't have any interest in sitting in the green room for 45 minutes and then

right but i was like i want to support you i support mike i want to support mj whoever right so i was like no i don't want to go i think it's weird i showed me again this fucking guy again you know what i mean so i was like no no i'm not gonna go and literally you're like cool where i'm going to this bar afterwards this is the bar in new york that sheena loves called the brass monkey i fucking hate it it gives me it gives me a thousand x and uh you know that place gives me an x i know i love it and so it's like a dive bar i don't know i know you're too bougie for a dive bar we know 100 and so i was like no i just saw them last night remember i walked you guys to your hotel like 1 45 in the morning walked you guys in your

hotel good night took an uber went home so i'm like i was just with these girls till like 1 45 in the morning i don't need to like see them again right because i also didn't want no offense but i didn't want to lean into like another no totally situation yeah so you guys are flying out seven in the morning because you have a really weird fucking flight schedule you take like red eyes and 7 a.m flights like i got a baby so i like to put her down and get home by her nap time i got a happy hour i understand it's the same same shit i get it but you were like oh we're leaving at seven in the morning i'll see you the next trip no big deal and i remember i was at vayner media about to like i was prepping a shoot and you called me and i was she never calls me in a day it's like this whole text or something and you were just

like you are not gonna fucking believe what went down. And you basically explained to me the whole, I grabbed her phone. I threw her phone. Like she came. I mean, the two things that always stuck out to me where you said, I threw,

I threw her phone and you said she came out with her phone and you were like, she was talking to Ariana the way that you would order like an Uber. You know what I mean? It was like so apathetic. And I was like, wow, that's like really weird. Cause you're like, I could hear someone crying on the phone. Like, who is it? The story like an Uber. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was like so apathetic. And I was like, wow, that's like really weird because I could hear someone crying on the phone.

I'm like, who is it? The story's been told, right? But this all played out, right? And I was like, holy shit. And my first thought was like, are you guys on a flight back together? You're like, no, I went at seven. She's going at 10.

So you'd both left New York, but on different flights. Yes. And now we're going to go back. Rewind. This is the Bravo. Yeah, right. Go back to April. Go back to hanging with Schwartz. Go back to us at that happy hour, whatever that thing was. We're talking.

She's not in love with me pushing the Schwartz thing because I'm just like, marry him, date him. I think I said the whole show should be Schwartz is the bachelor and all of you are fighting. I was laying it on so thick. Just be like, please date him. And she mentioned to me, she was like, yeah, you know, it's funny because at Coachella, it wasn't Schwartz. It was Sandoval that like said something to me. And I was like, what does that mean?

She was like, well, we were in the hot tub till like five in the morning. We watched the sunrise together. And I have the video. She sent me a selfie. I've showed it to you of her and like Sandoval. I think is that your house? No, they had their own house. Great. In a hot tub. Sun's coming up. They're the pool. I guess Jesse might've been there or not. But at one point she was like, yeah, it was really weird.

Like Tom said to me, and by the way, I want to say this and I don't care if this annoys you. I do not subscribe to like the dumping on Tom Sandoval thing. I think what he did was horrible. I think Ariana is the fucking best. She's a sweetheart. The level of like vitriol hate that is coming at him is really disturbing to me. Like, I don't think any of us, we all deal with blogs that shit on us.

I've been called gay, my veneers, the sister thing, you name it, right? It doesn't faze me at all. But when you have like the world thing, you name it, right? It doesn't faze me at all. But when you have like the world late night talk shows, when you are permeating media and they're just dumping on you, yes, a part of that is like poetic justice because RM did not deserve that. But there's a point where that stops and it's like, yo, like he could actually, this could like really affect his mental health. And all these people who are like mental health is the most important thing on tiktok fucking like just bullshitting for views and here's this guy

getting fucking dumped on and does he make it any easier by wearing the lightning bolts no does he make it any easier than singing uh rachel's hot for me right right so you know a part of me is like my sympathy can only go so far for tom right but i just want to be like i think the level of intensity is so intense that i'm like i just i cannot imagine what that would be like for him and again he i'm not trying to defend the guy i'm just so anyways it's like it wasn't schwartz it was sandoval that kind of said something weird to me and i was like what does that what does that mean because i was like what sandoval like and she was like yeah he kind of was just like oh you know and again i don't know that tom ever said this i can only go off of what Raquel said to me this is all alleged allegedly allegedly he she was like you know Tom allegedly was like you know like we have like an open thing

like we can hook up with whoever we want and I was like oh do they because I'm like I don't know I don't know that why would you know that yeah and she was like no I don't Raquel was smart excuse me Raquel was smart to it she was like no I think he's just like planting the seed that like you and I could hook up here and it would be totally OK because we're alone in a hot tub because it's totally OK in our relationship. So she knew exactly what she was very like for being a Bambi. You guys make fun of her. She knew exactly what he was doing.

And I think female intuition is a real thing. So if she has that i said yeah i heard she's heard i will say what she did to ariana was horrible like deplorable to like to like have someone come to your house to have someone like be like befriend you on that level like go to your pageants like it's just i get it like people will be like oh all's fair and love and war but it's like such an unbelievably cruel thing Like people will be like, oh, all's fair in love and war. But it's like such an unbelievably cruel thing to do. You know, that I'm like, wow.

Like I look at something like that. That's not my business. Even though I like feel so much for Ariana. And I'm like, what else is someone like that capable of? I couldn't do that. I could not like be your friend and like hooking up with your girl behind your back. I could never do that and like I think one of the reasons I'm gonna be super honest that like I have a good relationship with Brock is because we have a very respectful platonic friendship Brock is involved every time you come to town I can't wait to see you and Brock I always make it a point to like

Brock is your husband like there is a respect that just comes with that. So anyways, so I was like, wow. Okay. So like you, like you think he was trying to do that? She was like, oh yeah, for sure. So she goes, yeah. I mean, he was like, you know, we could totally hook up. And I was like, oh, like, would you ever do that? Like, would you ever like, you ever consider that? And she's like, no, no, no, no. And I would never, she was like, I would hook up with Ariana though. I wouldn't hook up with Tom. And I was like, oh, okay. This was literally a fleeting thought. I never gave this another thought a day in my life until you called me that day.

Go back to the present life. And you're like, here's what's happening. And I was like, well, that's fucking weird because seven months ago, whatever. Don't hold me to that math. Yeah. Like she kind of made this really weird comment and you immediately were like, dude,

we're going cameras up. I'm literally filming with Ariana tomorrow. I have to talk about this. I said, I won't say your name. I won't say where it came from. But I know for a fact, this is true based on you being the source. And I said to you, I am not going to fight it because Ariana deserves to know the truth. And I don't, again, this is all alleged, but she deserves to know the truth.

And so my run request with you was like, don't say my name. I don't want to be involved. You know, I don't want to like shit on people. I'm trying, to me, like kindness is a real value system. I like, I don't want to shit on people in their lives. And it exploded, it exploded. And then what I don't like is when I'm seeing these clips and I'm seeing like our mutual friends,

not on your cast, but just like in LA saying, oh, she's denying it.'s denying it or oh that's not true or like they're on the show they're denying it I'm like I don't like don't like live free like live free like if you're gonna talk about that shit are you gonna do it live yeah and like we put you so so you know you said it to me and I'm saying it to our friend and you guys are on a show where like you're literally being paid to like share your life in the most like honest honest and raw way possible don't pussy out you know now i have no idea if tom actually said it i only know what raquel right but she told you that i don't think she just made up that story unequivocally 100 she tried to fuck me in your bed yeah like literally like we went and like hung out at your house i was like okay i don't i felt bad i want to like i was like isn't that sheena's like bedroom where my child would also sleep with us occasionally like glow lights on the sky i can't do this this

feels like a fucking summer camp so now you know anyone who is listening unequivocally 100 take it from me sheena is telling the truth i know what was said i never wanted to jump in and use it at all so this was just built around two things i wanted to defend you a little bit i wanted people to realize that you are telling the truth and i also wanted to like not have my name among a close group of friends yeah that might have known get dragged like oh he's trying and i didn't want to jump into this i told gina a hundred times like i don't want to be a random guy that comes in and starts talking about this situation like i and i see a lot of people who do that it it comes off very thirsty to me no offense to people we all

know but like i don't like it like to me unless you were like fucking one of them in some capacity or you were like literally like their mom who like raised them you don't get to talk yeah you know what i mean like that it just doesn't it's not just because oh we went to brunch one time and i thought i saw her like sneeze the wrong way and that's what you're getting right now and i i hate that like hate that hate that hate that so yeah i just want to be like if i could say anything in this it would just be that you were telling the truth people need to understand like tom did a terrible fucking thing like he'll deal with it he's gonna deal with a lot he's gonna lose brand deals he's gonna he's gonna lost all his friends like he's dealing with a lot i just don't ever feel the need to like add more i think he's already getting so much and i think i love to see ariana like win

as dramatic i directed her in a commercial yesterday i know the first time i've ever directed a bravo person so sick vayner's done that before i'm so proud of both of you that was so dope vayner did that with theresa and caroline yeah for a sabra super bowl commercial and it like broke the internet because they had come together for the first time oh yes that one i loved that so you know it's one of those things where like i just don't think we know who Raquel is at all. No, the person that I hung out with for a month. I don't know who the fuck Rachel is.

Whatever the person I hung out with for a month who was just like kind of doughy eyed and kind of just like naive to the world, you know, is has this like crazy villain energy that I'm like, wow, I'm really glad that I got out of that. Wild. Yeah. I'm so glad you got out of it. And I'm sorry for ever putting I'm really glad that I got out of that. Wild. Yeah. I'm so glad you got out of it. And I'm sorry for ever putting you in it at the same time. By the way, I was totally down to like hang out with Raquel for like two dates, have a repeat of like other girls that I've dated in the network or hung out with in the moment. And at Hannah Burner's wedding, we're getting a drink at the bar and Sheena just goes on her Instagram. It's like drunk, turns the phone

and like snaps us and post it on your story. that's when the blogs went crazy once you did that all of a sudden it was out there oh we were so under the radar and it wasn't it was it just started it just started it was like there was nothing to be under the radar about but i could have easily been like come for the week hang out never talk to you again the minute that happened and the blogs were like oh my god oh my god james james unfollowed me i know i think it's such a lame thing but i know i like i get it but i also like dude come on like come on but he unfollowed me and i was like oh now this is a thing like now this has become a thing the power of your instagram story sheena is quite impressive thank you so yeah yeah i was sworn off dating girls in the network.

Yeah. Well, you say that now. No, I'm dating a girl in D.C. Talking to her. She's great. I don't want any, any fucking Bravo energy. Okay. Bravo girls.

Sorry. Well, thank you so much for doing this, for powering through. I know you feel like shit. So we're going to wrap this up. And. You're the best. I love when you like shit, so we're going to wrap this up. You're the best. I love when you come to New York. Come back. Come more often. I love how often I've been here recently.

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