Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Real Goode Talk with Jasmine

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

This week Scheana and co-host Jamie Lynne are joined in studio by Jasmine Goode to talk all things Bachelor Nation. The girls also discuss the BLM movement and Jasmine shares what it was like growing up in her home town. Then Jamie's secret crush is finally revealed on air. Question... what's the next season of the Bachelorette going to be like during Covid times?! Tune in now to find out. Scheananigans with Scheana Shay is produced by ACTIONPARK MEDIA Follow us on Instagram: @scheana @scheananigans @actionparkmediagroupSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, everyone? We are back getting into some shenanigans in the beautiful studio here in West Hollywood at Action Park Media. I have my kind of regular now co-host Jamie Lynn back in the house. Hello. She if she's a little off today it's because she had an overnight date that she didn't sleep on. I just got back from it. Yeah it was a sleepover with no sleep. You know what I was just doing extreme social distancing in Calabasas. Oh right. Wait you went to Calabasas? Yeah.

Oh, you didn't say that. Yeah, I didn't tell you the full story. Oh, wow. And I have your location and I didn't even check. You didn't check. Because I didn't know where he lived. So I was like, well, I'm not going to know if she's safe or not because I don't know where she's at. I was literally going through like canyons and I made a recording of it in case he killed me. I have it on video.

I was like, so is this where I die? Is this where my body's going to be found 18 months from now? No offense. Don't miss being single. And our gorgeous guest, Miss Jasmine Good. How are you? Hey, guys. I'm good.

I'm so excited to be here. Finally. I know. I've been trying to do this for so long. Seriously. You've been on the podcast before, but that was at the old studio. We're at the much better, upgraded studio now. I love it here.

I love it. This is home now. And like the front is all, if you're on the outside, it's all mirrored. So it must be so fun to just sit in here and watch everyone like fix their makeup and look how they're- That was me. I was like, where am I going? That's what I did on the way in.

Right? And then I'm like, oh my i going that's what i did on the way in and then i'm like oh my gosh that's embarrassing yeah during all of the protests when like the riots and everything were going on they had the doors boarded up so it was just dark when you walked by you couldn't like see anything anything yeah and i want to get into that actually why don't we'll just jump right in do it it. Because Jamie and I had both felt very guilty not attending any of the protests. I know you had been at several of them. But, you know, Jamie as a mother, me who at the time when all of them really were going on, I was pregnant. I obviously had to protect my health and wasn't able to be at them.

But what was that experience like for you? And were those some of the biggest protests you've ever been to? Have you done this before? No. So one, don't feel guilty. I always tell I was telling a friend this that they were like, Oh, am I not protesting? Like, am I bad friends? Like, no, like, there's different lanes for everybody. There's, you know, there's things you can do without just protesting. I've never been to a process before. That was my first one. Oh, okay. So I was so scared. I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to like, you know, get tasered or like gas in my face. I didn't know what to say.

Yeah, I'm wearing like sweatpants and all these like long sleeve clothes. I show up and I'm like, why did I wear this? Because it's peaceful. Nothing's, nothing's popping off. And I'm just like, but I'm going off like what the media is telling me. So I'm scared. But that was my first protest in LA. It was nice.

It was just, it was nice it was just it was so refreshing to see like everyone come together no matter what color you were like black white Asians gay straight it was really just nice to see everybody come together and um it was great it was cool and we you know we protested like a two week straight yeah I mean they're still going on now but I think the media is like dying down so it's not as like intense what people see on the media but it was great it was awesome yeah I'm glad I did it I was really nervous and I loved everything you posted you were really educational on the topic yeah totally I just want to like inform people because it's so hard it's such an awkward like conversation to have you know

and I get it like I live in Texas in like the most Republican like state ever and it was always so hard to, like, you know, talk about these issues and things. And now being able to have those conversations with my best friends who still live there, it's so, yeah, we might not agree. But, like, they're trying to understand. They're trying to, like, listen and trying to, like, see where they can, like, help or, like, what they can do. And I think that's the best part because I actually had a friend who reached out to me who I was like posting things to just like give information and she was like wow I had no idea about that and she's like oh my I didn't realize I'd like they didn't make dance tights in black skin like you know in dark you know darker colors and she was like oh my god I had no idea I'm so glad you posted that it opened my eyes to see that like this is an issue that we should have colored

dance tights for all different shapes absolutely you know so it's like little things like that opening people's eyes. And I'm like, wow, I never thought of it. So if I can reach one person or whatever, it's cool. Like, you know, so. But everything you've been posting has been very educational. I even I told you about in part of my July 4th vlog that I pointed out what you were saying about Juneteenth. And to be honest, it's something I've seen on my calendar.

about Juneteenth. And to be honest, it's something I've seen on my calendar. You know, it's on everyone's calendar every year, but I never really knew the whole history about it. I knew basics, but then this year I started to educate myself even more.

And it's, you know, it is sad that it has taken some of us so long to learn certain things about our country's history. Even me. It's a learning process for all of us. Yeah. But I was like,

as I'm, you know, celebrating 4th of July, I'm like, I'm also, I'm not out there like celebrating, like it's our country. I'm like fireworks day.

And I agree. I agree. Like I love, I was always my favorite holiday. And like, I just loved it. I mean, but now knowing the meaning of it,

I'm like, holy crap. Right. We're all technically a spot, you know? Yeah. But it's but now knowing the meaning of it, I'm like, holy crap. Right. We're all technically stopped, you know. Yeah. But it's a learning process for all of us. It really is. Like, I'm learning everything.

Like, I had no idea. I didn't think of it that way. Can you tell the listeners, for anyone who maybe didn't know, what is Juneteenth? Yeah. So, Juneteenth is when, okay, so basically Fourth of July is like our Independence Day. Right. Everyone's, like, free. You think, like, that's the day, our independence day everyone's like free and when you think like that's the day you know everyone's free but technically not everyone's free because slaves

weren't free at that time when let me try to find this hold on let me find the the post i want to be correct i want to say anything wrong but you know what i mean like no not the whole country weren't free because there were slaves at this time right so i think a lot of what a lot of people are upset about is that how can we have fourth of July being like our Independence Day for all people are equal or free when at that time not everybody was free. Exactly. Yeah. So that's and it blew my mind away because I didn't even think of it that way. You grow up thinking Fourth of July.

That was it. Like, but then you're like, oh, you sit back. You're like, oh, my God, wait, you're right. This really isn't technically our Independence Day because not everybody was free. Yeah. But those are things that you get covered up and like, not covered up, you know. And why wasn't that taught to me in school? It wasn't taught to me either.

It wasn't taught to anybody, I think, in American history. We learned about Christopher Columbus, you know, 1492. Columbus filled the ocean blue and founded America. He didn't. That's the lie. Yeah. But you think that. You grew up, you did projects.

You were like, Christopher Columbus project, woo. Right. And my mom was like telling me, he didn't find America, Jasmine. but you think that you grow up you do projects who are like chris rick london's project whoo like right and my mom was like telling me he didn't find america jazz i'm like no he did like i'm going off what i'm learning in school so it's so like it's mind-blowing yeah and it's just it's i think it's great that we're like getting these conversations going like holy crap but that isn't real history like the real history is this is this. Yeah. You know? So you mentioned Texas, but I know, were you in Jersey before that or after? Yeah, so I was born and raised in Jersey, lived there all the way through college. I moved in 2012 when I tried for the Cowboys. Okay.

Yeah, and that's, I've never been back in Jersey. Well, I've been back to visit, but I've lived there since 2012. Jersey girl. Yeah, Jersey girl. That's why we bonded right away. I can't even think. It's so weird. Like, some friends, like, you know the moment that you met, but with you, it's like we've we bonded right away. I can't even think. It's so weird. Some friends, you know the moment that you met.

But with you, it's like we've just always been friends. I can't even think of the moment that we met. I actually remember the moment I met you. And I don't remember the moment I met a lot of people. Because I had the weed. I was trying to think when I met you. But it was at an event. And I remember because I was a fan of you from the show.

So when I met you, I was like,, my God, it's Jasmine from The Bachelor. I loved her. And you were with Hope. Yes, because she was my roommate back in the day. And we were at an event. I think there was like a band playing that night. It was somewhere in West Hollywood. Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

But I just remember like her and I at the front. Because we were all cool at that time. Yeah, at the time, her and I were friends. And then I met you. I obviously knew who you were. And then we just hit it off right away. Because you know what? Yes.

Because you were friends with James. Yeah. James. And she was kind of seen. I don't know. She was the one. She was a girl kind of with James at the time. Maybe not.

Whatever. So she was kind of in that circle because of that. And then she was cool with Lala. And that's how I met Lala. And like, yes. Yeah. I was trying to think of when do we meet? I still can't remember.

I just always saw your events. I do remember it was through her. Yeah. I don't know how y'all met, yes. Yeah. See, I was trying to think of when did we meet? I still can't remember. I just always saw you at events. Yeah, I just, I do remember it was through her. Yeah. I don't know how y'all met, but. It was through Justice, I think. Oh, her brother. Her brother. Because her brother was friends with everybody.

Yes. And then like, I need a roommate and blah, blah. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that was what, three or four years ago. Yeah, it was like almost four years ago. So, we've been friends for a while. We've been friends for like a long time.

And I think people forget that. I'm like, yeah, I've been friends with her just because like I ain't on the show. Exactly. I ain't friends with her but I'm here. That's what pisses me off is people think that

my only friends are the people I'm on the show with and I'm like, first of all, most of those people I don't consider friends. They're your co-workers.

They're my co-workers, my co-stars. I work with them. We're on a show together. I do have my few close friends. Tom, Ariana, Kristen, Brittany, James, Raquel, etc. You guys know who I'm really friends

with. But at the same time, I have a huge friend group outside of Vanderpump Holes. You have an enormous friend group. That's kind of how I think I got closer with them. Because I've met Demario. We used to do extra work together when we were 21. Yeah, you've known him forever.

For 14 years. That's crazy. Yes. We were on Greek. We did entourage. Demario would. And yeah, so that's how we met, just doing background work together. And then we lost touch for a little bit.

And then he came into sir one night and i was like oh my god it's demario and it was like what and we just like picked up it was like as if like seven years had passed and then we got like really close again and that is i think how you and i ended up getting closer but regardless we've been friends for years yeah and that's one of the things that really pissed me off. Recently, I posted a photo on Instagram of the three of us. We were celebrating Jasmine's birthday. And I just had

the miscarriage and the DNC. It was my first day doing anything. Brock and I went to Elefante to meet up with you girls. And we took a really cute photo. And I thought that week the three of us were going to podcast together. So I was like, I'm going to say this.

But I had a date because I'm falling in love. We'll get into that. But I was like, well, it's still a cute picture. And I was like, do I save it? And I was like, but it was her birthday. And I was like, I just kind of want to post it now. And I promoted the one you and I did, Jamie. And then I was like, and Jasmine's coming on soon.

It was just a cute photo I posted with my friends. And then for people to go and attack me on that photo saying like, oh, you're posting with your black friend. Like you and Lala posting your black friends on the same day. I'm like, do you think Lala, who I barely talk to, I text and I was like, yo, do you have a black friend? Because I got a black friend. We should post that today. She would have been like, what are you talking about? Like that blew my mind.

So I was like, okay, wait. We've been friends for so long, and it's my birthday. We're celebrating something. So when I saw that, people commenting and adding at us, I'm like, wait, what? I was like, are you guys delusional? Are these people literally delusional? I was like, if you guys even follow her at all or follow me, you would see. If you go back, there's pictures of me and her on my page.

We were in Vegas before the shutdown together, partying it up like living our best lives i'm on your story you're on my story we're all on jean you're on yeah why is it that years on my page and see all of us at disney together like you you exist you are our friend like we didn't just showed you people are just reaching so hard because of what's happening right now and and i think a lot because your co or ex-co-workers have been fired so i think a lot of that people are trying to like well this person got fired for this this person's probably like what i'm like i'm like me like me out of honestly maybe our entire cast to come for me i was like uh-uh that is such a stretch and i know again yesterday i post a photo a cute photo that my friend clint who is also black and not that it matters took the photo i would think

though if he was like yo sheena your hair is a little inappropriate like i don't know like people might get offended because you have braids because i had you always wear braids four Dutch braids in my hair and a hoodie. And I'm like, that's cultural appropriation. And like people are saying that I was blackfishing because I tanned my skin. I live in the desert. It's 120 degrees. I'm Mexican and I'm tan. What is blackfishing? So I can read you the definition. It is described as an act commonly perpetrated by white women to appear of African or Arab ancestry. Arab. Okay. Arab.

You said they throw Arab in there, but then they give people that are Arab all the shit in the world. First of all, you were not blackfishing. If you look in the photo, the chairs are actually tanner than you. But anyway, no, you were not blackfishing. If you look at the photo, the chairs are actually tanner than you. But anyway, no, you were not blackfishing. People just, I told you, I think they're just coming for you now because of what's happening and your coworkers that have fired,

they want to like make anything something. But here's the thing. You're always tan. I'm always tan. I think. But I have a question about this because it's like, what if businesses do become more educated

and they, you know, because of the movement, like if they do anything because of that, then doesn't that just mean the movement was successful? Why should businesses or people get any backlash for educating themselves and perhaps changing their behavior? And not saying that the photo that you had posted of the three of us had anything to do with it because it actually didn't. But let's play devil's advocate and let's say it did. if you were like you know what i want to show more people of color on my page and like yeah i've i've been um awakened to this and then you do it and then and then people are like why didn't you do this three months ago exactly it's like when are people like why why is that a bad thing if if the movement worked i just think she's such a spotlight that it's just like if you did it it's different than her doing it yeah but i also said i'm like first of all if people take it differently if y'all watch my stories you

would see how many black friends i have how often i hang out with them we've been in a pandemic so my youtube yourself with your boyfriend also exactly and then i'm like even on my youtube i'm like more recently it's not because of black lives matter i'm like oh clint i need you in my youtube yo jasmine i need you on my podcast, it's not because of Black Lives Matter. I'm like, oh, Clint, I need you on my YouTube. Yo, Jasmine, I need you on my podcast. No, it's just a little more socially acceptable to be around people in general right now, which is why you are seeing more of that because I'm back hanging

around my friends. It doesn't matter. If this was a normal day, it would have been the same situation. It's just now that you were in quarantine with Brock for two and three months and not showing anybody yeah three and a half months and then all of a sudden you're like oh there's a black person that's like oh my gosh she's doing this because of black lives matter yeah no but i get what you're saying yeah i get where people can think that yeah um and i don't know social media is a weird

it's weird and it's really you know what's interesting and what i learned recently from sheena is i mean i always knew this but the way you explain how your Instagram is a business and it's very important, obviously, for the number of likes that you got for when advertisers see that they base who they want to work with on that activity. So what you had said is like, you know, I don't always or hardly ever post with friends outside of the show. Which makes sense. It makes sense. It's not that you're trying to hide anybody. Exactly. I was doing the same thing on The Bachelor.

I was posting on My Bachelor Friends because I knew that would get the likes and that would get the money and get the think. That's what they want to see. They want to see things they're familiar with. If I post a photo with Ariana,

no offense, it's going to get a hell of a lot more likes than with you, Jamie. Yes, 100%. Because she's on the show. And it doesn't matter that you're Italian or she's white or you're black.

It's nothing about that. It's who's on the show. Let's say Jasmine's on the show next season doesn't matter that you're Italian or you're white it's nothing about that it's who's on the show let's say Jasmine's on the show next season and watch you would see a photo from three years ago and a photo from now like you'd see how many likes it's so and also because she is on TV so like that's maybe a bad example

because people recognize you but you know but it's like I could post with like my old roommate Farrah the first girl I but it's like, I could post with, like my old roommate, Farrah, the first girl I lived with, gorgeous black girl. I could post a photo with her. No one knows who she is. But if she was on Vanderpump Rules,

people would be like, oh my God, Sheena and Farrah. Because people want to see things that they know. Relate to. Yeah. And they complain. They're like,

why don't you post with your real friends? Exactly. Because my engagement goes down and then brands look at my page and They're like, why don't you post with your real friends? Exactly. Because my engagement goes down. And then brands look at my page and they're like, oh, this bitch only gets 8,000 likes. She has 1.1 million followers. Because those are my friends of 22 years who I went to high school with. But you don't want to see my real life. The people, the 30,000 subscribers I have on YouTube and the 30,000 to 200,000 views I get on my vlogs.

Those are the people who do care about my real life. And that is where you will see even more and more now that it's slightly more acceptable to be around bigger groups of people. You're going to see all of my friends because I don't give a fuck. Yeah. This is my life. Instagram is not my life. It's a business.

Yes. That's what I told him. I was like, it's work. It's not real. Like, yeah, I could care less about Instagram half the time. But, like, you do it because it's work. Ads, promos, making money. Like, you got to do what you got to do.

Yeah. Of course. I've even had some of, like, my childhood friends, and even Natalie, who just cut our hair this morning. Yeah. We've been friends for 13 years. I was going to say it looks fresh. Thank you.

Been friends for 13 years. And, like, her friends back home would be like, well, if you say Sheena's one of your best friends, then why are you never on her Instagram like we never see you on instagram and i'm like and she's white does it matter if she's white or black no no because it's sorry natalie you haven't been on the show and if i post with you all the time people even if we're hanging out all the time even when like janet janet became like a very you know big person in my life that people on the podcast people on instagram like they're like oh my god we're janet it's janet but it still was nowhere near the engagement

that i would get with like ariana or britney and that's like the thing with like natalie i'm like you know i'll still post you on my story i'll tag you on my story i'll post you on my snapchat but on a static post people aren't going to quote unquote like it and then that could ruin business on the bachelor i was like i was thinking there's a post i'm like okay if quote unquote like it and then that could ruin business on the bachelor i was like i was thinking there's a post i'm like okay if i post this me and raven and alexis it will blow up uh-huh post this me and like john ross or you know me and somebody else probably won't do nothing exactly it's so true and that's just how you have to think when you're in that like when you're on a tv show constantly and that was just me on like one season i could imagine

being eight seasons like you gotta give the fans what they want and people thinking for eight years when it's the same people on the show that these are my only friends and I'm like I don't even like half these people you don't post them you never post them like you do but it's not like you're yeah I get it I totally get it I think people America that watch the TV they don't understand how TV works and how like it's not all real even when I said on my podcast when I was talking about the miscarriage and i go you know it's really hard i'm seeing a lot of my friends who are pregnant right now and everyone's like okay well stassi's like oh my god it must be lala britney katie and i'm like no it's two of my friends who have never been on the show and another one of my friends hannah

actually who's on below deck med but like i love her she's so awesome and when she told me it was like i had just found out but it was too early for me to announce and i was like oh my god i'm so excited like we're both gonna be pregnant together i was like she's but also my two other friends my friend um i don't want to say their names i don't put them on blast yeah but they have nothing to do with this public lifestyle they're my friends just because i'm saying a lot of my friends you just automatically assume i mean vanderpump rules people and i'm like no yeah and it's it's like a blessing but a curse because people think everything is filmed in time yeah they think you're probably filming right now like

when it airs they're like this has to be happening right i'm like guys that happened like a year ago i know and i mean for next season you know whenever oh god it does start it's like we filmed last season a year ago and we're not it's it's gonna be so far so much has changed like yeah i could be pregnant like next season by the time we start who knows i mean there's a lot changing in this world right now but i just no one knows what's happening i i just hate when people assume they know everything about your life because they watch you on an edited television show where you're on it a few minutes a week. And I'm like, go watch The Hours on my YouTube if you actually want to see who I am and see my real friends. Because, like, now my friends know. And sorry if it annoys you.

But, like, if we're hanging out, guaranteed I'm probably going to have my vlog camera. Oh yeah. She has it out all the time, but I don't mind. I just, I went down to Long Beach last week. It was on my most recent Follow Me Around July vlog and my friend Donnie McCluskey from high school, he played for Cal. He was like star

football player. We were just really good friends in high school and we've stayed in touch ever since. We've never lost touch. So every time he comes down to LA, he'll hit up me and Adri. We'll try and meet up like on the West side. He was this time flying into Long Beach. So she's like, Oh, we're going to get dinner. And I was like, you're not getting dinner without me. I haven't seen him since last year. I was like, I want to come. And so I show up and have the camera and Adri's like, I told you she was going to have it. He's like, well, you can't put me in it. And I was like, why?

And he's like, because I don't have Instagram. I was like, boom, it's for YouTube. And you're in it. Now you can watch. Here's the link. Yeah. I'm just like, look. And these are people I've known since 1998.

Yeah. I think people just get invested with you and like how the whole show started. Maybe that they're like so used to you being in the beginning with these people. And like those are your only friends because people get invested in TV shows. You become these characters that they, like,

think they know. So when they see somebody new, it's like, oh, she's doing that for clout. She's only posting jazz because Black Lives Matter. Like, you know what I mean? Like, they don't realize.

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HEFTY, HEFTY, HEFTY! Speaking of television shows, I want to get into the new Bachelorette and the new Bachelor because I know you have a lot of thoughts about it and I have a lot of questions.

No word. So, what are your thoughts on this new season of the quarantined bachelorette it sounds so weird it's like and and just what are your thoughts on claire in general did you watch one public season i think claire is great i i've met i think i met her once but she's down to earth real straight shooter like this is who she is this is what you're getting yeah but I just feel so bad for her because she gets the short end of the stick all the time. Now she's getting a quarantine episode or a season. It's like, damn, she can't win.

I know. She probably had this mind she's going to be living in Thailand, going to Japan on these dates. And now her ass is going to be in Palm Springs sitting in a pool having a little backyard picnic. 115 degree weather like you get what I'm saying like they're literally in Palm Springs yeah like quarantine right now but then they're gonna film and I'm just like this girl can't win I know but if she is the type person

she says that she's just trying to find love then maybe she can find love then yeah I think if she's really trying to find love she'll do it but if she's trying to have like this crazy inciting season I don't know how you're gonna do I it. I mean, I guess you can have drama anywhere, but it's like they're dudes. It's like the drama is different than like women. It really is. You can put women in a room, so much drama. Boom. Guys are just like, oh, we're talking shit.

Who knows? Maybe it'll be successful for her because I think, you know, the issue with the regular Bachelor shows is that they're living this extravagant, romantic, unrealistic life and then they are thrown back into the real world. So now it's almost like dating in the real world in quarantine. That actually might work for her. And she's older. She knows what

she wants. She's not going to fuck around. I see her not even waiting until rose ceremonies. She knows, nope, we're not clicking. Bye. I think Claire's going to be like, look, this person I don't like. I'm not going to fake the funk. We're in quarantine.

We can't do anything. So she's like, I don't want to waste my time going on a strapping date. We're going to the pool. I'm going to break up with him at the pool. I love, too, that they have brought the age back up. Oh, do you see her, guys? I mean, the 21-year-olds, like, on this past season, it's like, you're 21. Seriously, they're not ready to get married.

That's why I was happy my season, because Nick was older. He was like, oh, not four. I'm not playing it out like that. But he was, like, 35 or something. He was, like, older. So I was like, yeah, this is great. But, like, all the bachelors before have been, like, 25. I'm like, the girl's been 25.

I'm like, 25? When I was 25, I was a freaking hot mess. Like, boyfriend. I had, like, five boyfriends. Like, you know what I mean? So I think for her, she's older. She's ready to, like five boyfriends. You know what I mean? So I think for her, she's older. She's ready to find love, I think, I hope.

And the guys are older. I looked at the list. A lot of them are 40. There's some 40s. Nice. Brock and his friends is on it. Really? Yeah, Brock's like hottest friend who I wanted to introduce Jamie to. I can't believe. No, I met him already. But I wanted to like introduce. You just met him at a bar.

And I was with another guy. Well, he probably but I wanted to, like, introduce. Like, you just met him, like, at a bar in Passing. And I was with another guy. Exactly. Well, he probably won't win, so let's just hope. Well, you know what? We'll all be in Palm Springs. So just send him over. Send him down the street, Claire.

I'm over there. She's about to send him home. And like, hey, who's Jamie walking down the street as he's getting in the limo? That's where Randall always stays when he's in Palm Springs. Oh, God. I'll show you. So Brock's story this morning. That's crazy.

He goes, babe, can we watch The Bachelorette, please? Hi. What's his name? Chasen. Chasen. Chasen. Yeah. So he lives in, or he did live in the building with the guy I was dating.

Uh-huh. And so we were all out to dinner, and then, yeah, he's really cute. He looks tall. I don't think he's, he's tall, but I don't think he's 6'4". I don't think he's. He's tiny. So anybody's tall for him. He's probably 6'1", 6'2". Yeah, he looks like he's tall. Around that. really cute. I don't think he's tall, but I don't think he's 6'4". I don't think you're tiny. So anybody's tall for you. He's probably 6'1", 6'2". Yeah, he looks like he's tall.

Around that. Really cute. Yeah, he's hot. Yeah, and Brock just golfed with him like two weeks ago and he didn't say anything. He's older. And he is. Yeah, sorry. Bachelor.

Yeah, but I'm like, no, send him home. Bring him back to us. But you know what? Even, I don't know if I can, even Brock said, like, at that point, he's not going to be, like, someone who's seriously going to date you. He's not, like, in that frame of mind, which was, like, a year ago. So, I don't know. He's probably the same mindset, too.

I don't know. A majority of the guys. A majority of the guys are not ready to say. They're just here to, like, if they have a business, something, to get the next, like. Yeah. And these guys are older, too, which blows my mind. So, if they did Paradise, it kind of makes me wonder if these 22-year-olds of the past seasons

are going to want these 40-year-old men. I mean, I'm game. They'll want the 20-year-old girls. We know that. True. Are they really serious? Do they want these relationships? Good luck to Claire. I hope she does get engaged. She was engaged once. I hope it happens for real this time.

And Claire, send the ones you don't want. Send them down the street to Sheena's once. I hope she happens for real this time. And Claire sends the ones you don't want. Send them to us. Send them down the street to Sheena's house where I'll be. You know Claire, I'm ready, girl. My favorite when I was single and I would watch The Bachelorette, I wasn't trying to pick who she was going to end up with. I was like, who are you going to send home? Who can I meet? Hell yeah. That's what I did

before. I was like, I want that guy. Would you go back on Bachelor in Paradise? I would just because Paradise was such a different experience than The Bachelor. It was so much fun because, you know, girls, guys, if you don't like one person, you can talk to another guy. Like, it's not like you have to stick with the one guy. And I have more fun with guys usually. Not like, I know it sounds kind of disgusting and dirty. But, I mean, I get along.

Like, I have a better relationship with men. Like, you know, a lot of women are kind of, like, intimidated by me sometimes. I think they just kind of hate on me. I don't know. That's hard to believe because you have a better relationship with men. A lot of women are kind of intimidated by me sometimes. I think they just kind of hate on me. I don't know. That's hard to believe because you have so many friends too. I do. But girls in the bachelor world, it was different. It was different.

It was very like I felt very comfortable with the men. And I do have my close little bachelor friends. But the ones that aren't in that group, I never feel comfortable around them. I always feel like it's awkward or like they think like, I'm like, okay, this is not my people. But I would do it again just because it was so much fun, you know? And I, it can work, you know, my friend Raven and Adam, they're getting married and hopefully next year we don't know what COVID. Right. But like, it can happen, you know, it's just, it depends on the two people. Like, I think, you know, a lot of these people have these fairy tales in their head and I'm like, that's not real life. You need to go outside the show and date.

That's when you know it's real. So that maybe could be how this next season will work because it is going to be more realistic. You're in quarantine together. You're stuck together. Their date's going to be on the couch. They're not going to Japan. Maybe they could go to Las Casuelas. Yeah, they're going to.

You're going to our favorite Mexican restaurant. They're going to make it look pretty. They'll do helicopter rides and stuff. They're going gonna have to get more creative with their dates for sure but it's not gonna be a concert like back in the day no maybe it'll be a drive-in concert yeah something like that and also but i mean the concerts it's usually like the individual like true it'll just be the two of them do you think they were a mass though like are they gonna have to acknowledge the mass situation somewhere somebody's getting somebody's getting Do you think they wear a mask, though? Like, are they going to have to acknowledge the mask situation somewhere? Somebody's getting out the limo with a mask on. Somebody

is coming out that limo. You know they all come out of the limo? But you know, everyone's going to be screened multiple times and put in self-isolation. So it's going to be, like, guaranteed. No one has it if you're not interacting with anyone. I feel like their isolation is going to... But the producers around you, the camera,

like, there's a lot of things that could... All the crew's going to have to be in full masks and bright face gear and all that and live in a bubble. And it'll probably be a smaller crew. They're probably going to put them all up in the kinked up. Yeah, you can't go home. I think they're all just staying there. They could film a show in two weeks. They did it. It can happen. Easily. Drama, boom, you're done. Yeah.

You're filming a day. And when you are with someone like 24-7, I mean, it's easy to catch feelings real quick. Claire is definitely a woman who like falls hard, I feel. You can tell. Yeah. And if you know what you want. I mean.

She's got to know for that. I think she's going to fall in love at the sight. She sees the guy she likes. It's like, boom, he's the one. First impression, Rose. Yep. They always make it to hometowns. First impression or like the first kiss or like somewhere in there.

They always do. Always. So do you think like hometowns, is it going to be Zoom? Like, you know, how are they going to do hometowns? Right. Especially if they live in like a grounds,

not grounds here, but like a hot spot like Florida. You know what? Maybe they won't do hometowns. Maybe they'll bring the families to them. And then self-isolate. Self-isolate them before the hometown. Like they knew they're coming.

But what if they get kicked out before? Because if it's 14 days of isolation, you won't know about hometowns in, like, three days. True. What they do is they call, when I was top seven or eight, they call everybody's family during that. Because you never know who's going to make it. Right, yeah. And my mom told me, she's like, yeah, they call me asking about, like, hometowns, if we want to do what we're going to do, if you made it far. So maybe that's what they'll do.

So they could just get it ready. Yeah. And get them ready just in case in quarantine i mean they have the budget they have you know they're saving a lot they're not going to thailand it's so true they're not going to australia oh my god the amount they're saving and not traveling yeah they're in freaking palm springs seriously of all places to imagine Sheena was still single, and now they're in Palm Springs. She walked there. Sucks.

Shout out to Claire. Seriously. Yes. Good luck to Claire finding love. If your season had been during a pandemic, would you have done it still? At the time where I was mentally, yes. Because I was off a breakup and and like fucking, you know. So I think I would have.

But now I would be very cautious like, is this even going to work? But then maybe. I don't know. I think I would still do it. It wasn't crazy. Like did someone nominate you? Did you? Yeah.

I did not audition. I broke up with my boyfriend. It's time my best friend Jessica got asked to do it. She was in a relationship. She was like, hey, I have this girl job and she's great can I send you her information I think she'd be perfect for the show they're like yeah send it over flew me out that same weekend to LA and they asked me on the spot like we like you can you get off of work and I was like well I'm actually moving back to Jersey because I quit my job so yeah sure I was like I have nothing to do right now and so I was like this works it's like so am I on the show they're

like just take off of work like get off work I was like okay so I take that as a yes and it was like, I have nothing to do right now. And so I was like, this works. I was like, so am I on the show? They were like, just take off work. Like, get off work. I was like, okay. So I take that as a yes. And it was like four weeks before. It was so, they already casted people. But I think it's like Nick was older. So they were trying to like get a new thing. Because when they announced it was Nick, they were like, do you still want to do it?

And I was like, yeah, he's cute. Like, I don't know anything about him. Wish I knew more. Wish I knew more. But I was like, he's hot. Like, let's do it. Like, he's tall. I'm game. So yeah, I was like he's hot like let's do it like he's tall I'm game um so yeah I didn't audition anything like that so so I wonder if like so I kind of went forward with that process I want you to get on it well they off I mean they

flew me out here so did they put you up in the Sheridan hotel right by LAX you were like not allowed to leave the room wait whose season would it have been? It was so long ago. It was when I was living in New York City. So I think, I don't know if he was British or a pilot or something. Jake? It was Jake. He was the only plane guy. Was it him?

He was the only plane guy besides Pete. Yes. Whoever it was. That's Rob's best friend. Yeah, it was Jake. It had to be Jake. Because he was like four seasons before, or three seasons before me. Okay.

He wasn't Ben. He wasn't Juan Pablo. He was like, it had to be Jake. It had to be Jake. Because he was like four seasons before, or three seasons before me. He wasn't Ben, he wasn't Juan Pablo. He was like, it had to be Jake. I remember being on the plane flying back home and the contract was like an inch thick. And I remember reading through it and I saw something where I could be sued for over a million dollars if I even told my family or a closest friend anything. And I was like, I'm going to slip up.

I'm going to talk. I'm like, I don't want to be sued. I'm like, I'm going to slip up. I'm going to talk. I'm like, I don't want to be seen. I'm like, I'm a liability. I'm going to opt out. You would have gone Jake's season. Oh, I'm so glad you didn't. But now this Jamie, I want to do. You should invite the new guy.

Well, I can be on the senior edition probably. That's not what this edition is. Well, these guys are older, so they're going to be the next, like, batch of, like, Paradise guys, which don't make sense to me because they're all old, but whatever. Can they do something in Paradise? Are you going to be a Matt season? I was going to say, how old is Matt? Honestly, I feel he's young because he's best friends with Tyler.

Matt James. Right? I think he's really cute. I just looked it up now to see. Oh, he's very good looking. Oh, he's super cute. Very good looking. Speaks ball.

I'm like. I'm so bummed that they didn't make Mike the Bachelor, though. I know he got played. I liked him. I don't really know Mike, but I just feel like I feel a lot of. He should have been at last season. Well, here's a lot of black guys who have been on the show have been played out in the past. And Chris Harrison, I think he's a great guy, but I hate his interview. It made me so angry.

Oh, he's Tyler's friend. I told you Tyler's his best friend. But Chris Harrison interview, he me so angry oh he's to hear him talk I told you Tyler's his best friend but Chris Harrison interview he said they were asking like why haven't there be a black lead a guy he's like well you know we just haven't you know had anyone in the past or has been like basically enough basically or people that they have black cast members who've been qualified enough to be like the bachelor and I'm like okay he didn't say the exact word but something like that. And I was just like, are you kidding me?

You have so many black contestants that are amazing, but you guys choose to give them that narrative. That's not what you want. And I get it. Cause the audience is not mostly black. Makes sense. I never watched a bachelor growing up, heard about it,

but never did. So I get that. But to say that, like, it's like a slap in the face. Every black contestant that's been through that door. Cause I'm like, we have the credentials

Diggy fucking DeMario I mean yeah they did DeMario so dirty he could have been such a good boxer if that didn't happen

I swear he would have made it farther than that because Rachel really liked him she told me she was like I really liked him but she had like no choice she was like

I really like him and this happened but he would have made it farther Diggy there's so many others like Eric Eric yes there's so many other

black people Freddie there's so many black like Eric. Eric, yes. There's so many other black people. Freddie. There's so many black guys that have so much going for them that they just kind of like because I get it. That's not your audience

but to say where Chris Harrison made that comment I was like don't say that. That's not cool. That's fucked up. We just haven't had anybody qualified basically enough

to be the lead. I'm like are you kidding me? Yes you have. You gave the wrong narrative. But these white guys are good enough and qualified enough. But Robbie Hayes, I'm sorry, I love Robbie. Shout out to Robbie, I love you. But like, you're saying Robbie Hayes is more qualified than Diggy?

Come on. Diggy has an amazing job, a smart-ass guy, has his own place. You know what I mean? Like, don't you dare say that like, Robbie, love you, Robbie. But you get what I'm saying? But it's like, that's not fair. Yeah, but also, we all know Robbie. Yeah. Like, come on. But you get what I'm saying? But it's like, that's not fair. No, Robbie. Yeah.

Like, come on. But you get what I'm saying? But that's what he was trying to say. And I was like, but Robbie was in the lead, but not Diggy and Eric and Mike. You're saying Mike wasn't good enough? Yeah, an unemployed former competitive swimmer. But you get like, Luke was and all these other people that were so well. And I'm like, hmm, something doesn't sound right.

But I get it, Chris Harrison. You gotta keep your check. I get what you're doing. Well, Matt's 28. I just looked it up. Okay, not too bad. Still in the weird age where he wants to have fun. I would like 30s better. Yeah, I like 30s. But 28 is the age where you're getting there where he's like, either I'm gonna keep fucking partying right now for two more years

or I want to go in that direction and find somebody where I can live, like, party with them for four more years. So ABC had explained that they had to announce this now to begin the casting process since it's going to be filmed before Claire's season airs. And I want to know, what are your thoughts on that? Do you buy that? Okay, when they announced this, well, I saw the petition going around before they announced it. And I was like, screw this petition.

Because in my mind, we already know how this works. They gave us Rachel. Never happened again. They had three, you know, white bachelors after her, bachelorettes after her. So I was like, okay, I know what you're trying to do here. But I was like, I'll sign this petition, see what happens. Next day I wake up, Matt's the bachelor. I was like, y'all.

I was like, wait, what? I was like, okay. I thought it was a joke. I was like, so you guys are going to throw Matt in our face? Like, boom, shut up, Black Lives Matter people. You got your first black bachelor. And I was like, okay, yes, this is amazing. I think it's the right direction they're going in.

But they didn't acknowledge anything. They didn't say a statement or anything like, hey, we hear you. They did it after the fact because people were complaining about it. But it was like, where's some acknowledgement? you know we fucked up we haven't been doing this we're gonna do better announcement boom matt it was just like here's matt after the petition was like floating around yeah and it's to me i i don't say i buy it i just feel like it's kind of like one of those things where i don't trust producers people in general so i know what they're trying to do you know what i mean i don. And I think they just kind of

were like, here, shut them up. But people can see that. We're not stupid. I think Rachel said a comment on it. She was like, this is amazing. This is great what they're doing. It's just sad that the situation how they're doing it. It makes Matt feel too. Are you doing this because I'm just

black? Am I really qualified? Are you doing it because I'm friends black like am i really qualified yeah are you doing because i'm friends with tyler c i'm black and like you know i'm friends with those like white people it can work like you know what i mean and it's fucked up that you have to think that way he's never been on a season so that's why i'm like they're doing this because he's tyler's friend that's how i kind of feel but i'm glad they're doing it i think he's great he'll be perfect but i just hope now this is a time to like hire people not just have a black bachelor when I was on my season there was

was there any black producers no in paradise there was a black producer there was not one black producer black cameraman but they can't talk to you no black producers until paradise there was one he was a guy not even a woman and that's why people understand like being a black woman you need to have another black

producer there. Because all the white girls in my season were super close to all these, like, white women. And I'm not saying I can't be super close to them either. But, like, if there was something I wanted to relate to them on a different level, like, dating interracial. I can't even, like, talk to a white producer about it because they don't understand what it's like to date interracial. Because they're white. They're just going to go off what they think or what they feel. And I'm just like, this is what they need. They need to hire producers that are black, casting directors that are black, handlers, whatever it is.

Anybody that's on set. There's got to be some more representation. It's not just the bachelor or the bachelorette. More representation. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really good point. And I hope your producers are listening.

No, it's so true. I always think there's a really good point. And I hope so. No, it's so true. I always feel like there's a moment something that you know, I think people don't think about unless you're in that position. Unfortunately, it's like, and that's the thing that I love about the way you speak. It's you're so educational, but you're not like being like judgy or just like being like, come on, like, let's do better. I get it. Trust me, like, I get it. But it just shows you how they think of you, too. Because I always felt they thought that Jasmine is so strong. Like, she's crazy, but she can handle it.

But, like, there's moments, like, I want to cry to a producer. I want somebody to, like, you know. And that's why I was gravitated to, like, the guy producers. Because, like, the women ones just didn't get me, I guess. At least the guys. Like, I don't know. Maybe it was, I don't know. They understood me more than, like, the white producers that the women. They just didn't get it. And I'm like, you guys don't get it maybe it was, I don't know, they understood me more than the white producers, the women.

They just didn't get it. And I'm like, you guys don't get it. You're not black. You know what it's like to be in a situation, dating this white guy, and all the girls are white, and I'm trying to, you know. Oh, Jasmine's strong. She can handle it. But I'm like, I want to cry, too. I'm an emotional person.

I want to cry. Just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm super strong. But that's how society looks at black women. They're so tough. It's like, no, I'm actually a little baby, and, that's how society looks at black women. Like, they're so tough. You know? It's like, no, I'm actually a little baby and I cry all the time. But you know what I mean? Like, that's, like, that's why they need to have more representation behind the scene.

Because it's not going to be the same. Like, you can have a lead. It doesn't matter. Because, I don't know, Matt, he might just date only white girls. We don't know. Yeah. He might. And, like, those black girls, they need somebody who can relate to them on set.

They can be like, you know, I can't explain it. I'm thinking about our crew and one of the crew, it's a black audio guy, two black camera guys, and then a white producer. Yeah.

All the producers. Always. Yeah. Always. And it's not their fault. It's just more like, hire these people. I know they're out there.

Yeah. Yeah, in Paradise. And they're qualified. They hired one in Paradise. She's actually Samuel L. Jackson's daughter. was on paradise she was but it was like late in the season whatever but it was just like i wish she was there on my season because then maybe i could like reach them like hey do you understand how i'm feeling right now like i'm feeling you know just something you can relate could even get something maybe out of you that you know a white

producer couldn't and get you to open up in a way that would be really fucking entertaining and educational for the audience but then when i say that then i think people take it as like why i said the erase thing it's not just about erasing you have to understand it's just more being able to relate to somebody a little bit when you're the only person there i'm only like two black girls in around me and rachel yeah it's only me and rachel in the cast at this moment too i mean like come on guys. Yeah. It's so true. Even not, not on the same level whatsoever,

but for me with going through my miscarriage recently and if you're a woman and you've been through it, you can relate and understand. Brock is a man

who can have his own feelings but he doesn't understand and I'm like, that's why I put it out there. Imagine not having a female producer. Imagine not having a female producer during that. And just being with men like, okay, girl, shut up.

A completely different situation. But if we were filming the show right now and I had only male producers, they're not going to get the same emotion out of me to tell my story that a female could. And I think that's why I feel I wish I was so much closer with the female producers but I just didn't can relate with them. So I was always grabbing to this one guy

who's so fun. But I'm like, he's doesn't get it because he's this white guy who's just probably like, oh, this boy, you know, like who knows?

Yeah. So yeah, they have to have representation across the board. Not just give us Matt. Yes, thank you. But it's like, you did to Rachel.

You gave us Rachel and then four people after that were, where's the Asians where's the Indians where they at where they at looks like they're trying now they are

and that's what I said they are trying and that's what I said I love it I just hope they weren't just doing it like a slap in our face I hope they were doing it

to really do something yeah but we'll see we'll see so who from the Bachelor world if you could date anyone oh god who would it be

I could date anyone or like would it be? I could date anyone? Or like if, I mean, who's your favorite? Or if you had a crush on anyone, who is it? Oh my God, guys. I mean, I have one. You do? Yeah. Can you tell me yours and I'll tell you mine?

No, I just want to know yours. I still don't get yours. There's this one guy who I think is so cute, but I don't even know him because I didn't really watch his season. He was on maybe JoJo's season. I don't know. His name's Michael or something. I just follow him on Twitter. I think he's like the cutest guy. don't even know him because I didn't really watch his season. He was on maybe JoJo's season. I think it was Michael or something. I just follow him on Twitter. I think he's like the cutest guy.

But like, I don't know him. But like, who else? I really like don't, I really don't like anybody from The Bachelor. I know that's like really messed up. But I think people are cute. Like, I think Clay is super cute, but I don't like his voice. Yeah. No.

I think he's so hot, but I don't like his voice. Yeah. What's Clay's voice? I think he's so hot, but I don't like his voice. And that can turn me off. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Wait, which one is Clay? He's like the light-skinned football player. He was on Really Good Looking. I don't like his voice either.

Yeah, but he's like, I will look at him and I'm like, wow. Just shut up. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know. I really don't, honestly, the Bachelor boys, I just kind of. Like, I don't know. I really don't. Honestly, the Bachelor boys, I just kind of get like, Yeah. Okay.

A lot of them can be a turn off. Yeah. Jamie, who's yours? Who's yours? No, we're not. Tell me. Oh, yeah. Come on, please. If you don't, I'm going to sing a song about him.

Okay, just sing. Oh, my God. Is he a singer? Just say it. Oh, Matt Donald. Matt? Matt? Who's Matt? Matt Donald? Matt? Matt Donald.. Old MacDonald. Matt? Matt? Who's Matt?

Matt Donald? Matt? Matt Donald. Oh, his name's Matt Donald? Yeah. Isn't that his name? Yes. Like MacDonald, but MacDonald.

He was at the Halloween party with us when you were Buzz Lightyear. Matt? And anymore. Can we clarify? He and I are friends and we talk occasionally and stuff. And he's my tenant, as you are, Janet. I mean, Jasmine. But Janet was my tenant, too.

He's your tenant? He's my tenant, yeah. Matt. I know Matt. So, okay. Was he at Intersect? Because I think we talked about this. No, Luke was at Intersect.

But he's friends with Luke. Oh, Matt. He lives with Luke. Luke is my other tenant. I never, did I meet him? Yeah, he's cute. I think I met him. Okay, let's. I met the other guy

I met somebody from that season in Intersex Festival this is so creepy because like he and I are friends and he doesn't know that I want to make out with him oh I thought you guys

did make out once we never made out oh I thought you finally did no hi Matt like yes I want to make out with you this is really embarrassing well Matt Medeiros

step it up he's cute he's had his opportunity I don't know if he's dating anybody, so I don't want you know, if he is, good for him. That Dustin guy's cute. I just thought about that. He's cute. He was cute. He was, but yeah.

That's all I can think of. I'm just trying to think of somebody. I just like how shy he is and like how if you saw his season of Paradise it was hard for him to even kiss somebody because he didn't. Yeah, because his mom was Paradise, like, he wouldn't, it was, like, hard for him to even kiss somebody because he didn't. Yeah, because his mom was watching. Yeah, his mom was watching.

Yeah, that one. Yes, now it's clicking. That's why I'm like, I don't get it. He was the one that was like, mom, I can't kiss. But it makes sense because it's like,

he's not sleazy like all of these other guys. I slept on camera. I was like, oh my God, I was going to see this. He's thoughtful about it and he won't just, like,

hook up with anybody. I like that. But I'm like, this is Paradise, bro. That's sweet. We got to get it on. We only got a month to anybody. I like that. But I'm like this is paradise bro. That's sweet. We gotta get it on. We only got a month to follow. I'm so mad at you right now for

doing that. I thought we were telling she told hers. I was not planning for any of that to come out. Okay we can bleep his name out. He probably won't even listen. If he does, shout out Slidin' the DMs. Step up your game. He won't listen. He's not gonna listen. He's not gonna listen. No but someone will listen and then they'll tell him. He won't listen. He's not going to listen.

No, but someone will listen and then they'll tell him. He will hear it. I really can't think of anybody. I'm pretty sure drunk Sheena has already told him. Are you serious? I'm sure. She probably did. Sheena. What?

Sheena would. It was Halloween. You told him on Halloween? Who cares? He's never going to know. Well, he obviously already does. Oh, now he knows. And now he's here to go. You know, I'm excited for the new guys.

Let's wait for the new guys to come out. Anyways, Jasmine. I don't know if you guys know this, but Jasmine actually works at Sir. If Vanderpump Rules, we do have a season nine, if they were to ask you to do the show, what would you say? I don't know.

I mean, for me, it's one of those things where if it makes sense at the time, sure. So maybe I would. I think I would. I think it would be great. I mean, one, I think it would be great because you guys do not have anybody that looks anything like me on the show. So I'm like, number one, you need some representation there. And you really work there.

And I work there. That's the thing. You really work there and we're really friends. That makes sense. Yeah. So that's when they asked me. I was like, well, I'm friends with them, of course. I was like, if I'm filming, yes, I'll film with Sheena.

It's not a big deal. It's not like you're planning it and we have to be like, this is awkward. Yeah, but it's like, you know, if it was my birthday or my baby shower or something like you would be there already so i was like yeah of course i would like i'll entertain it and see what's up but um and i would love for you i just want to put this out in the universe exactly you know and especially one who really works at sir because have your back exactly oh yeah yeah that's the thing i'm not i would never go on this show and be like i think a lot of people danica i love you you know not, I would never go on this show and be like, I think a lot of people, Danica, I love you.

You know, I think a lot of people on this show and they're just like, want to be like this character, be like this thing. And maybe because I've been on a TV show, so I already don't care about that part. No. To me, it's more like, it's going to be very real and authentic and like, and that's, I'm kind of scared if I did do it because I'm too honest. Well, that's perfect, though. No, but that's the best.

I don't want to be your best friend. I don't have to be your best friend. Danica, you know, it's not a secret anymore. She literally took a secret I told her and told the only person I didn't want to know. That, like, Max and I had a little thing last summer very briefly in Palm Springs. And she went and told Dana. And it was like that was such a shit stirring situation that you shouldn't have stirred the shit. Why would you do that?

What? Because and then I have to talk about it on the reunion. That was something that Max and I agreed to not tell anyone. Dana told me. Oh, wow. And then Danica lied and said she was wasted and didn't remember and then dana was like no girl she did you dirty she literally told me in the middle of our shift at sir and i'm like why would you do that though yeah interesting but i'm like why would you do

that to me like i literally told you that in confidence because she was telling me something about her relationship that she didn't want anyone to know and she's like i need to know i can trust you and i'm like well if you don't know that already, then how about I give you something on me? So like, this is, no one else in the world knows this. I'm going to tell you. And then she went and told her. And I'm like, that's not a true friend.

That's fucked up. Yeah. She shouldn't have said anything. Exactly. But it's like, what, did you need to get some more camera time? Honestly, people, I mean, you know, I mean, you've been on a couple seasons. She hasn't been on a season. So I've been on TV shows where I know people do things you need to get some more camera time? Honestly, people, I mean, you know, I mean, you've been on a couple seasons. She hasn't been on a season.

So I've been on TV shows where I know people do things for to get that time. So that could be that situation. Honestly, that's maybe what it is. And that's why if I did this show, I'm like, I will say I'm nervous because I know myself. Like, I talked to my mom about this. Like, if I ask me, like, what am I going to do? Because I'm so honest. Like, I just, like, say how it is.

And I'm like, okay. And I to do? Because I'm so honest. I just say how it is. And I'm like, fuck it. And I don't have time for the fake shit to say. I don't. Same. And that's why I'm like, I'm 35 years old. I don't have time for the 25-year-old drama anymore. It's just like there's no time for that. It is what it is.

I'm not going to do this for cameras. I've been on a TV show before. I don't care. And you guys have actual things going on in your lives. When they bring in these new people it's like they really have nothing going on like hey sorry no but like i'm so busy that's why tom was like i'm very i like to like do that i'm like i don't have time just be like yes film the show it's great but i want to use it like i'm going to be on the show i'm using this show for what i'm trying to do not just like to be like the cool Queen Bee

or the baddest bitch, like, you know. Like, I won't say names, but, like, two people already said, like, now that Stassi's gone, they're going to be the new Queen Bee. They're going to be the new bitch. It's like they're trying to play these characters. That's insane. When you hear that, to me, it's like, what?

I'm like, wait. I think, like, the thing about Vanderpump, which I love, the reason I would consider it is because it's not like The Bachelor, where it think of like the the thing about uh Vanderpump which I love if I the reason I would consider is because it's not like the bachelor where it's like planning is all about love this is your life they're filming your life everyday things and I think that's so cool but at the same time I think it's so crazy when I hear things like Jamie just said like yeah like I want to be I'm like oh and I've heard I'm not 10 years say which one of the new girls, but I know specifically from a friend of hers who has nothing to do with the show said that even before this show,

she was like trying to get on MTV shows and said she would like do whatever, say whatever and hurt whoever in order to get on reality TV. People do that. I won't name names. You know who you are. But I believe it i mean people will do anything to be on tv before we wrap this up i just want to ask you a couple yeah last questions that for us you know for the white privileged people of the world and just for

people in general what do you think are the most important things that we need to be educated about and the right questions that we should be asking? It's so when I get this question, I feel like it's so much pressure because I never want to say the wrong thing. But for me, there's not a wrong thing to say. It's just what is important to me that you want your friends to be educated on. When I think of like my like my white friends that don't get it or understand it, it's just more like honestly, when people say be an ally, it's just like when you hear something say something like be like that's not cool like don't laugh about it and be like joining in on the joke because you're like this is awkward if I don't laugh they're gonna hate me no no that's the problem you gotta end that you know so it's one of those things just

like speak up when you hear something that's not cool be a better human. Just like really just trying to like be aware of situations. I think a lot of people, things happen. They just, you know, they're like, oh, wow, that's racist. But I'm not going to say anything because I say something. My friends are going to hate me or they're not going to like me. Then those aren't your friends. As a group. I'm sorry.

Yeah. And it's just like, stop. Like I had a conversation with Raven about this. She called me. She didn't know what to say. She was like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to put on my story, my page. She's like, I don't think Raven is you think I don't know what to put on my story, my page. She's like, I don't think Raven.

I think people think it's so difficult. It's very simple. Talk from your experience. I'm your best friend and I'm black. Just be like, look, I can't relate. I don't know how to relate to this. But you know what? This isn't right what's happening.

Or this situation is right. That's all it takes. You don't have to go into detail and history and all that stuff because you don't know but when you're honest and just straight to the point like this isn't right that speaks more volumes to me than somebody who's just like I'm not going to say anything at all because I'm going to lose 50 million followers yeah like no I don't care like unfollow me I don't want you following me because you'll get you'll get more followers of people that were like wow respect you for you for that. Yeah. So it's just more just like, you know, be just a good human. If you see something, speak on it.

Like, I'm not saying you got to read books and like, you know, study. It's like, you know, it's just not that hard. I think people think it's like, oh, this is so stressful. It's not stressful. Just open your eyes and ears and listen and like watch and see what's going on because shit's happening around you. Can you remember the first moment in your life that someone was racist towards you? 100%.

I was very little. I think I was maybe five, six. And I was, yeah, in kindergarten. Wow. Or first grade. Maybe first grade. Because I'm actually first grade because I moved to Maplewood, New Jersey. I was first grade.

And there was kids like, your hair. I don't think they were like really racist. But, you know, they're little. They don't know, but it's just more to me. It was like, they're like, oh, my God, you're so different. Like, you're, like, not cute. And then, like, one boy was saying, you're not cute. And my one friend was like, oh, you are cute, but you're so different.

Your hair, can I, like, touch your hair? And, like, I'm little, so I'm just like, oh, okay, like, whatever. I went home. I was like, Mom, they were saying I'm not cute, I'm not pretty my hair or something she was like Jasmine you're black like she's like telling me like yeah you're black your hair is different from a lot of the white girls explaining to me like what and I'm like I'm little I'm just like okay but now when she would tell me this story I'm like oh okay it makes sense I mean so that's like low-key racism I guess what I mean yeah they're five-year-olds six-year-olds like but like a six-year-old saying like you're ugly because like you you're dark-year-olds, like, but, like, six-year-olds saying, like, you're ugly

because, like, you're dark-skinned. Because you don't look like me. Like, that's racism. Yeah. Like, you know? But, like, he's probably taught that or he, you don't know what these kids are growing up,

their environment. But, yeah, that was a moment that I remember because I remember them just, like, touching my hair and, like, thinking I was, like, an alien. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, I'm just, like, in school

thinking, like, everything's fine. And then, like, people were touching me, touching my hair. And then the one little kid, I remember him pointing at me saying I'm ugly. I was like, what? That's so fucked up. Like, but when you're little, you're just like, huh? And I'm like, Mom, they don't like me. And she's like, they like you.

They don't, they've just never seen anybody like you. And I'm like, oh, you know? Yeah. So I think that was, like, my first ever experience of anything about race. You know? Crazy. And kids are so brutal. First grade.

I mean. Yeah. But I didn't know. I was just like, oh, I'm different. Because like I didn't grow up that way. Like I grew up in like a very mixed town. But we moved to a very mixed town. And my mom never said like this person's white.

I never had no idea. Like my first best friend was Asian. Didn't even know what Asian really was. I was six or whatever in first grade. And then to say somebody say you're ugly because your skin's darker or whatever and I'm like what I'm running home to mom like like what's wrong with me she's like you just don't look like what they're used to and I'm like oh so it's it's crazy yeah you know there's so many situations of racism things that happen that you just don't think it's like racist you just kind of adapt I would

say because it just happens so much when you're younger like oh you're Oreo or you talk like this talk like a white girl I'm like what the fuck does that mean like I'm like because what I like I'm I'm educated I'm talking about facts like I can't black person can't know facts like um I'm like I talk like an Oreo I'm like what the fuck like that's so weird to me and I'm like oh because I grew up in Maplewood which is like a mixed town like oh I'm white girl I'm like, what the fuck? Like, that's so weird to me. And I'm like, oh, because I grew up in Maplewood, which is like a mixed town. I'm like, oh, I'm white, girl. I'm like, what the fuck? My boyfriend's black. Like, you know, like, it's so bugged out that people would say that stuff and they don't

think it hurts, but it does. Like, it really, like, hits you. Like, people are like, oh, but that, who cares? You say you talk like a white girl. I'm like, yeah, but like, that makes me feel like less than a person. Like, I'm not good enough to be black. Like, I'm a black person. I'm not good enough. It black like i'm black person i'm not good enough it's so bugged out yeah i think you don't even know but like i think i have such thick skin throughout the years like my life but definitely back then i should be

like wow that really hurts me but no one knows even in dallas like what happened so many times so many racist things but i would lay this slide because like i didn't know how to handle it when i'm only black person in the room it's like do I flip a table or do I just be quiet and just look at my other black friend that's there and like, this is bad. So you always had those girls to rely on on things. But it was always hard to deal with little under racist things happening and no one would understand. Even your teammates, they would just laugh at certain things. Like this guy called me a monkey. And they're like, that's so funny. That's so crazy. I'm like, guys would just laugh at certain things. Like, this guy called me a monkey. And they're like,

that's so funny. That's so crazy. I'm like, guys, did you hear what I just said? He literally called me a monkey. In my mind, I'm just like, how are you guys not coming to my side? I'm like, are you okay? That's fucked up. Nope. Just laugh it off. Like, oh. I'm like, no.

This is a problem. This is the problem in America. And it's not them. And that's the thing I try to tell a lot of my is the problem in America it's like and it's not them and that's the thing I try to tell a lot of my friends who were in those situations like I know it's not you you're not racist and you're you just don't understand because that's the way you were raised and how you're brought up but you need to understand like if I'm your best friend this is happening to me then you need to open your eyes and see like there is a bigger problem here I got a friend who said to me she was like like, well, if you were killed or you were, like, that girl, I would kill somebody. And I was like, so you're saying that you're okay with what's happening right now, but if it was me, you have a problem.

She literally texted me that. I was like, are you kidding me? I'm not going to say her name because she's probably going to listen. But I was like, are you kidding me? I was like, does that even make sense? They're saying if I died, then you're going to bomb shit and start looting. But, like, right now you're like, no. Yeah, she said that.

She was like, but if it's you, I would kill somebody. I was like, what? I was like, what? Right? Yeah. So. But, yeah. But overall, do you notice, like, people are becoming any more enlightened or educated?

Do you see any sort of change happening that you're happy about? Yeah, I think I love this. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I did a podcast two weeks ago and I was talking about how I would suppress things and never bring it out. And I'm so proud to be black. And I was then too,

but I was just always so nervous because I never wanted to make people uncomfortable. I was always worried about other people. And I was like, fuck that. I don't care. I'm black. It is what it is. I'm biting my braids in my hair I don't care but I do see like there is change coming which is amazing like even friends reaching out to me and

saying wow I didn't know about that like you saying the Juneteenth like you didn't know I didn't know either relearning and it's nice that we're having these conversations because we have to learn we have to talk about it when you don't talk about it, nothing's going to change. Well, thank you so much for being here and educating us. And just being your awesome self. I love you guys. I love you. I love you so much. Yes.

Tell everyone where they can find you. Jasmine, good with an E, underscore. On social media, everywhere. Facebook, all that stuff. Twitter. And Jamie? Jamie Lynn, 2-4. J-A-M-I-E-L-Y-N-N-E

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