Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - RHONJ's Jennifer Aydin

Episode Date: December 31, 2019

RHONJ’s Jennifer Aydin is here to talk about how she became a housewife, raising her kids right, style and fashion, a special love f or Chanel, and dealing with social media haters. Shout out to Hulu for sponsoring this episode. Start your free trial now at hulu.com .See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey. Hey. Hi. And also the gorgeous Real Housewife of New Jersey, Jennifer Aiden. How are you? Hey, Jersey in the house. What's up, Karamis? It's so nice to have someone from Jersey here. How's Riverside Mall doing without me?

It's surviving. It's expanding, actually. It's probably thriving with you there. It's really good for the economy with me there. That's what my husband always says. Good for the economy. I must say, you look incredible. Thank you.

I'm snatched. I'm still wearing my garment from my tummy tuck, but I took out the padding because the padding adds like two inches. I want to look super snatched. Okay, so tell me about that. Oh my God, look at you. Wow, look at that tiny waist. Wow. And it looks like I have like you. Wow. Look at that tiny waist. Wow.

And it looks like I have, like, a little butt implant, but I don't. It's just my good old fat. Okay. So tell me. So he makes it look bigger. It looks amazing. Yeah. How do I get that?

I have five children. Yes, I have five children. Marry a plastic surgeon. Okay. That was. Or marry one that can afford one. That's my next best thing. Marry a plastic surgeon. Or marry one that can afford one. That's my next best thing.

I know some troll posted on Instagram like, oh, of course, you wouldn't look like that if you weren't married to a plastic surgeon. I was like, yeah, I would, bitch, because I would just pay for one. So that was one of the things I was wondering. Like, is he the one who operates on you? He is. Okay, I didn't know if that's like an ethics thing. It's like you're not allowed to operate on family? To be honest, it's frowned upon. But that's like an ethics thing. It's like you're not allowed to operate on family? To be honest, it's frowned upon.

But there's no law against it. It's completely legal. It's just in the medical field. It's frowned upon because of what everybody is thinking. But in this instance, and I had that also,

I told my husband, because listen, we've been married for a long time and I've just started dabbling in the plastic surgery because I really wanted to be done with all my kids and I would suggest anybody who's a mother like make sure you're done first

because you never want to have a tummy tuck and liposuction and then get pregnant and then all of a sudden right you're gonna blow up in places like that you would never gain weight and then look like a sausage that's just a lot of cottage cheese so But anyway. So I told my husband, are you sure? You know, like, what if – and you know what he told me? He's like, look, nobody is going to be as meticulous as I'm going to be. I'm going to take my time, and I am not going to close you until I am well and satisfied. He didn't know if – like, when you go to a colleague – and again, we had a multitude of people that I could have went to, which would have done it at a huge discount. So it wasn't even the money thing.

But he's like, you know, sometimes people get antsy and people want to close you up. And if things aren't going their way, they just want to rush. And he's like, I just want to make sure that no one is going to rush with you. And nobody's going to take better care of you than I will. And then I was like, okay, not only am I sold, but I am smitten. Yes. You sold me on it, honey. Right? You know? I mean, and I was like, Yes. You sold me on it honey. Right. You know.

And I was like if you fuck up everyone will know. And you'll hear about it for me. And you'll hear about it. I keep nothing private. Taking like Instagram boyfriend to a whole new level. Plastic surgeon husband. Plastic surgeon husband. Wow.

That's right. When we had Heather Dubrow on the show and we were asking her like because you know her know, her husband is a plastic surgeon as well. But he I don't think she I think she said he hadn't done anything or she hasn't had any work done yet. She says like the like filler and Botox. But right. But I'm like, would you have your husband do it? So that was me too. On my face, too. This is still the same face. I mean, everyone's like, oh, look, she got a nose job. I'm like, when and where? Tell me. Right. Especially when you're on social media on a regular basis. And it's like, when did I recover from this nose job? Totally.

You'd have black eyes, bandages. Yes. Do you think I just stocked up three weeks of content and different outfits from different places? Totally. We've just learned how to contour better these days. That's it. No, it's the same big schnoz, unfortunately. It's still there.

And the only reason I don't change it is because my kids, I've talked about having nose job for a long time, but my kids are always like, we're afraid that you're going to look different. So at least until I grow a little older, I just want to make sure I look like the same mommy. Yeah, definitely. And with the weight loss, first I started with liposuction, which was the beginning of the season.

No, actually, first it was a breast reduction. Oh. Yeah, because breastfeeding five kids. Yeah. And it just didn't look sexy anymore. It just looked sloppy. It was like I got these big melons, and they're always in the way, and I hated them. So first we did a breast reduction.

Can I ask how big they were? You know what? Just over the years, I think they just, I kind of smushed them into a D. Okay. But I don't know if they really were. It was kind of like, I looked like I was busting out of jail. Got it. Where like some people would look classy wearing a low cut dress.

I just looked like a dirty porn star. You know, you kind of want to like slip something in there. It was awful. And I was just like, we need to reduce these bad boys. And then they would like disappear when you lay down. You know, how that like one goes to the right, one goes down. I'm like, this is not attractive.

So we did that. See, she wouldn't know. That's how Jamie gets it. It's about fake boobs. Like they just stay in place. So I had breast reduction with lift. And then I had liposuction just in my back and he contoured me. And then I like feeling smaller. And then, you know, I saw myself on camera. Like people are like, oh, you got on TV and people pressured you to lose weight.

No, bitch. I don't think so. I saw myself on camera and I was like, wow, is that how people see me? Because, you know, sometimes you don't. You're like, oh, I look great. I was like, I thought I was fucking rocking it with five kids. And I'm like, oh, that's a little thick. I could do better than that. So then I did a weight loss thing and I lost 25 pounds. I want to hear about this diet. Yes. So I did two types of diets. The first time was while we were filming. Teresa's daughter, actually Melania,

went on this diet where she had food delivered to her, fresh food prepped by a chef. It was like absolute nutrition consulting or something like that. And they delivered my meals for weeks. And it was great breakfast, lunch and dinner. I didn't have to think about it. Calorie control, carb control, all that. And then I lost 15 pounds on that. How long did that take? Not too long. Was that just diet or diet and exercise? No exercise. Okay. Truth be told. Yes. Yeah, no. Diet's like 80%. It really is. It's really all what you eat. And then I realized that. And that took about six weeks. And then I took the summer off. I'm like, you know what? I'm not

going to be dieting. But I didn't overindulge. But I noticed that I kind of packed on a couple of pounds, like three or four pounds. And then I was like, oh, shit. So when September came around, I had seen Dolores lost weight. And I'm the type that like, once I lose weight on a certain diet, like it doesn't work for me anymore. The second time around, I got to change it up. My body gets used to it. And then it plateaus. So when I saw Dolores lost weight, she lost weight with this company. I don't know. I think it was like Elite Health Center out in – by Paramus in Washington Township.

Okay. But you had to inject yourself with this hormone called HCG. With some people – but I'm not afraid of needles. I mean they're in my face 24-7. I've never heard about injecting for weight loss. Yes. So it's HCG. It's a hormone that when you inject it, it latches onto your fat cells wherever you have the most fat.

And then when you do the diet, it burns the fat in that area first. So the diet is really specific, though. Oh, the diet is. You have to cut out oil, right? Cut out oil. No oil. No sugar. No carbs.

Oh, my gosh. No fat. So what were you eating? I would eat eggs every morning with egg whites and spinach, not even the yolk, egg whites and spinach with Pam's spray and Tabasco sauce. That was my go-to. Then if I got hungry around 1 o'clock, I'd kill my appetite with a coffee, coffee and just very little skim milk. And then I got this thing from Amazon. It's like a squirt of caramel, but it's made with stevia. So it doesn't, it doesn't make you, it doesn't make your insulin levels rise. So I do a little

squirt of that for sweetness. And then just a lean chicken, again, either baked in the oven with Mrs. Dash, garlic powder, some spices, and ham spray. Were you not starving by the end of the day? No. You know what? I would eat it with vegetables. I'd have, like, a good amount of vegetables, broccoli, which is kind of filling. Yeah.

And listen, the less you eat, the smaller your stomach gets. Exactly. That's true. And then you need less to get full. So are you still doing this? No. But I do portion control, highly portion control. But yet I'm visiting my mother-in-law, and, you know, she's off the boat.

And the way they show love is through food. Oh, yeah. So it's like every five minutes she's stuffing my face with pomegranate because she has a pomegranate tree. Oh, my God. And she's like, here, eat. And I'm like, oh, okay, good. And I, like, shove it to the side, and then she'll eat a pineapple. And with every bite she takes, she offers me a bite. And I'm like, oh, okay, good. And I like shove it to the side and then she'll eat a pineapple. And with every bite she takes, she offers me a bite.

And I'm like, oh, thank you. Yeah, no, I'm good. I mean, at least you're somewhat healthy. Like my family in Italian, it'd be lasagna, pasta, breads, pizza. No, they're crazy about fruit. I'm not a big fruit person because it's a lot of sugar and it's a lot of calories. If I'm going to go that route, I'd rather have a piece of cake, to be honest. Like a bite of cake or something like that. Something I enjoy.

I mean, fruit is great. Just doesn't get me wet in my pants. Fruit, okay. Great. I'm not big on fruit either. I like vegetables more. Yeah, I would love a plate of vegetables. I love broccoli. Yes, with some garlic, some seasoning on it. Yeah. So you're a cook, though. You cook for your whole family, right?

I do. I cook. Yeah, I cook. I mean, my housekeeper, I have a live-in housekeeper, which is great. And people think like, oh, you have a nanny. What do you do all day? It's like, there's five. There's five. Do the math.

No nanny, no matter how much you pay them, is going to take care of all of them because they go in all different directions. But my housekeeper lives with me and she cooks and cleans for me. So I get to do everything else I need to with the kids. And then I also have a babysitter that comes and helps me when they have their activities. And I just really physically can't make it to both. And my husband, I don't depend on him at all. The second he started working and started making money, he's like, anytime you need help, babe, hire help. Don't look at me.

Don't look at me. Like, he'll walk in. My husband will walk in. He'll be like, did you know the light bulb is out in the garage? You know, you going to get to that sometime today? And I'm like, why do I have to do it? Aren't you the man? He's like, i make the money it's like if i get up on a ladder and god forbid i fall and i break my

hands i can't do surgery yeah and you won't be able to spend the way that you do and i'm like okay i'll just hire yeah i'll get it okay fine i'll do it and i'm like adriana please my housekeeper please help me i'm like theresa's daughter yeah no ad Adriana is my housekeeper, but I'll say, and I have Maya too. They switch off because nobody likes to work seven days a week. Shocker. So she'll come up and I do this thing where it's like polite. I'll be like,

oh, we need to change the light bulbs in the garage. We, meaning you. But my husband used to do that to me all the time. So he was like, he used to be like, oh, we need to get the kids to eat more vegetables. And we need to get the kids to behave more in public. And we need to get the kids to brush their hair. And I'm like, by we, you mean me.

Me. Don't you? You mean me. He's like, yeah, I mean you. I'm like, well, I'm not that good at it. So how did he take this whole transition? Once you started doing Housewives, I'm sure you're going to events more and you're traveling. I don't know if you're traveling without him.

But I mean, I have a big lifestyle change. The girls trip was the first time. I was so excited about it. Is this like a whole new life for you? The thing is, we had a pretty exciting life before I got married. I used to do girls trips all the time. I wasn't like this sheltered little girl. I partied, honey. can't go 97 hey where my fist pumping people okay um and well then we got married and I went into the traditional family role which I loved because

I don't know how old your girls are but when I'm was in my early 20s you know all you want to do is okay so like all you want to do is like find the perfect guy, like get married. And like when I found my husband, I'm like, okay, this is the one I just want to be a housewife. I want to cook and clean for him. I want to take care of him. I want to have lots of kids, be a stay at home mom, which I got all of that.

And so when housewives came to me, Olivia was five and she just started kindergarten. So I'm like, this is the perfect time because I'm going to be empty nesting now. I don't have any little kids anymore. Bill works a lot and it's going to give me purpose because I kind of lost touch with all my girlfriends, especially the ones that never got married because then it's like two different lives, you know, it's like, I'm going out with couples now and we're doing like the boring, I wish I could still come out with you guys. It's just not like appropriate. And then this came and it was like, well, honey, this is my job. I need to go away with these girls and get turned up because, you know, I get paid for it.

And, you know, you're going to respect me more if I make my own money. And at first he was kind of like, well, I don't really want you. I don't want anything to take time away from our kids. And that's really what his number one concern is. He wants me to have fun all the time. He's such a team player. I mean, he gets along with everybody. He's not insecure. He's not like a dick to guys.

You know, you can date those guys. And you're like, oh, this is my guy friend. Yeah, I don't need any more friends. Get the fuck out of here with that. You know what I mean? Like, Bill's such a gentleman. He shakes everybody's hand. He offers them a drink. You know,

he'll pay for the whole dinner, you know, just to be hospitable. Like, he was a gentleman. I feel like this season you're seeing more of his personality, too, than last year. You do. Last year he was a dictator. Everyone whose nickname on Instagram, people compared him to Jafar. Oh my god!

I was like, no, I got Prince Aladdin, honey. Prince Ali Ababwa. Okay. So how did you get on the show? Were you already friends with some of the girls? You know, I knew Melissa from just having the same people in our circle as the stylist. And Dolores was a surgical tech with my husband. Okay.

And, you know, when they're casting, they always ask the girls, like, do you know anybody? And they recommend people. And then somehow I got an email, you're friends with Dolores, whatever, would you like to interview? And I said, sure, why not? And, you know, funny story. I actually got, okay, so I haven't told anybody this. But for season six, before I lived in the Taj Mahal, I lived in a very nice house.

When I first moved to Jersey, we bought a brand new construction. And this I may be blamed for bragging, but it was only it was 3000 square feet. I loved it. It was gorgeous. I only had three kids at the time. For season six, I got an email, a friend forwarded to me like, Oh, if you live a great life that people would covet, blah, blah, blah, blah, apply. And I applied for Housewives. It was a different casting company, a girl named Tammy. She interviewed me. She wanted a group. She said, oh, Housewives is all about family. So I brought on my cousin and I brought on my neighbor. My cousin lives in Franklin Lakes. OK, like we're not hobos by any means and then the girl was like oh i love you you're a spitfire but um your house is not really housewives in my house that i that i bought and it was a brand

new construction brick home five bedroom five bathroom and i was like i know it's not a mansion but it is a gorgeous brand new house and not not to mention, I'm building something new. I'm in the process of looking for a lot. It could be storyline. And honestly, I was so turned off by what she said to me. I was like, why am I even trying to sell myself? I'm going to go fucking scratch, bitch. Yeah.

Okay. And season six, they passed on me. And that was the year that they had the twins and that other girl. I don't know if I forget. What season is it right now that's airing? Ten. Oh, wow. It's ten.

Okay. So then I did watch six. Six was when I think Teresa was there. I don't remember watching that much. I was kind of like, why am I going to watch you? Yeah. You didn't pick me? You're all shut out a lot.

Watch your ratings go down. And sure enough, their ratings were the worst. Yeah, I don't even know what twins you're talking about. I can't do either. I don't know. I just you're talking about. I can't do that. I don't know. I just know them as twins in another one. And I don't remember watching that much this season.

Again, my kids were younger then. Maybe it was before DVR. And then season seven, I got an email again. And I was like, you know what? Why not? I'm going to try one more time. So when I tried, the woman called back. And she was like, oh, we want people that like Bravo has never seen.

And I was like, first of all, Bravo's never seen me. That's first of all. Second of all, if you chose me the first time, maybe you wouldn't be in this situation. Just saying. But you know what? I'm fine with it. Have a nice life. So then when I moved into my house.

Yeah. And then Dolores recommended me and I went and I was with the casting people. I was like, you know what? I don't even think I want to go this route. Like nobody liked me before when I was in my house that's not up to par. Okay. And now that I live in my fucking mansion, you know, I was like, I'm going to apply and then say no. There you go. And I applied.

And then I said, yeah. Oh, well, go figure. We change our minds as females. Women. What can we do? We're women. And it worked out because like now it was like more organic and it was more real because I knew Dolores. Yeah.

Dolores is, like, a jack of all trades. She's had jobs everywhere. She's been a surgical tech. She was a correctional officer. Did you guys ever know that? I did know that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's so crazy. She doesn't handle anything. Yeah. She's a tough one. She's good. Yeah. She's a good peep. Well, you are a great addition to the show.

You know, it's like one of those things where, like, I always saw, and people would be like, oh, you don't want to be on that show that fights with women every day. I'm like, yeah, I do. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I do. I totally could do that. I totally could fight with people. Yeah.

I totally could. And I could make it funny. Yeah, I do. I do. And I'd just be like, I would be so great on that show. And then I remember one year we were watching, oh, the year before I joined, me and Bill were watching Reunion. And I would always watch it when I put my kids to sleep. Like, I put it really low and Olivia sleeps next to me. And so I give her a back rub. Bill does work on the laptop next to me so that we're kind of like having together time when we don't even speak.

And he would like look up every now and then from his computer and look at the, and it was Reunion. So Siggy and Margaret were going were going oh yeah she was like Elmer Fudd boom boom and they're screaming and I'm like loving like yeah I'm so thirsty so great and Bill's like I would kill you if you ever act like that I'm like I act like that all the time are you kidding me he's like yeah but that's different he's like that's just like with our group of people. I'm like, how I am with our group of people is how I would be every single day. And then he was like praying that it would never happen because he's like, God, you're not going to shut the fuck up, are you? I'm like, no, I'm not.

So then when it finally happened, I was like, you know, he kind of was supportive in the fact like, well, I know this is your dream. So at the end of the day, if that's what you want, I'm here to support. I love that. And that's what he says. And he's enjoying it. Yeah. He's enjoying it. Good.

I mean, I think the first year for any couple, it's definitely a huge adjustment because you're literally putting your whole lives out there for the whole world. And it's a lot. I mean, I've been doing this for eight years now. And I mean, I'm on my fourth kind of relationship on the show. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it can take a toll. I feel like it takes a really secure man to stand by.

100%. And endure all that. I haven't dated one of those until now. So, yeah, you met my boyfriend at BravoCon. I loved him. Loved him. He was so excited to hear you were going to be here today. It was really amazing. Yeah. I'm happy for you.

Thank you. You know what? Sometimes you gotta swim through a pile of shit before you get to freedom at the end of the tunnel. Remember Shawshank Redemption? I always think of that tunnel of shit. Would I have done that? I definitely would if there was light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. Sometimes we gotta

kiss a few frogs. So how many more episodes do we have? We're caught up. We watched the most recent, the last supper, the Easter episode last night. Okay. How many more do we have? How many? I think we have 15 or 16 this year total.

Yeah. And then we'll have however many reunion comes out of it. Hopefully three. I'm pretty sure three. Yeah. I want to talk about your glam because you have some of the best interview looks on the show. Okay.

Where do you get the inspo? Honestly, they come from me, and I tell my glam how I want to execute it. So when I wore the pink, which I got that in downtown L.A. Hell yeah. I love shopping in downtown L.A. Hell yeah. I love shopping in downtown L.A. I love mixing great little finds with high-end pieces. I feel like that's how normal people are.

Not everything you wear is fucking $500 shirt. I'm sorry. If I don't have fucking Chanel screaming at every which way, I'm not spending that much on a shirt. Not at all. I'm sorry. Unless it has Chanel tag, I don't pay full price. I need a bargain so that pink I felt like it was very it reminded me of like Katy Perry

in Teenage Dream or like something very 80s oh I want my hair half up and I want to kind of look 80s and then obviously the big shoulder craze is in style so that burgundy blazer I had I felt it was very like Alexis Carrington from Dynasty.

I don't know if you guys remember that. And she was bougie as fuck. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to be like a powerhouse with shoulder pads. And like people were hating on that look. And I was like, are you kidding me? And they're like, oh, what is this, the 80s? I was like, yeah, bitch, the 80s are back.

Go ask somebody. Go ask. It's all over the place. Now everywhere you look is like big shoulder pads. And then they want to hate on me with my lip liner. A lot of people do the lip liner thing, okay? I'm not the only one. Yeah.

It's like, get the hell out of here. So wait, what is this? Is it like over lining or what? No, it's just lining with a little bit of a darker shade than the internal lipstick. That's it. And you know what? The lighter lipstick, I actually put it on over the internal lipstick. That's it. And you know what? The lighter lipstick, I actually put it on over the lip liner. So it kind of makes it blend. Well, your lips are

beautiful. Yeah. And then I kind of, I do blend it in. I mean, sometimes, obviously, it's not as blended as other times. But it's the first thing that people are like, oh, stop lining those lips. I'm like, no, bitch. Hashtag line those lips. lips line those lips that's like my pillow i created a pillow it was at bravo con i don't know it's a beauty pillow and it's basically so you know we get our lashes done and you have to sleep on your back when you get injectables it's best to sleep on your back so that you don't wake up all wrinkly or when you get your eyebrows done you don't want to mess it up so this beauty pillow basically gives you enough neck support. And you put it on top of your regular pillow so that if you wanted to, like, save your lashes.

Like, these lashes are two days old. And they're the band. I leave mine on for a week. Yeah, girl. Yeah, I clean it up with a Q-tip. I wash the face. Yeah. We're not dirty stay-outs here, honey.

Same. We're clean as a whistle. Yeah. We're just clean. We bring, like, i clean all around my face q-tip it up and i want these lashes to last okay it's annoying to put them on i know it's annoying and i don't get the extensions anymore because it's just because when you're an in-between phase yeah you look all mangled and then you know the trolls are going to come at you like what's wrong

with your spider lashes they look disgusting go get your lashes done. I'm like, bitch, the girl was busy. I couldn't get my fill in. So now I just do the band, but I like to keep them for as long as I can. Do you ever do individuals like on your own? I don't know how to do that. Okay, so. Is that easier? I feel like it's harder.

Priscilla could teach you. It is so easy. So I have like three different ones. I have like the short, medium, and like the long flare. And you just kind of like start with the short, then stack the medium, then add the long. And those will literally last me seven to ten days. So they last longer. They don't rip out

your eyelashes. Right now I have a strip on because I was just like rushing this morning. I was like, I know Jennifer's going to have her lashes, so I got to put my lashes on. I'm on vacation. If I was in mommy mode, I wouldn't. But you know, I never know who I'm going to see out here. It's LA. I think I'm going to put my lashes on. They didn't have time for individuals. I'm on vacation. If I was in mommy mode, I wouldn't. But, you know, I never know who I'm going to see out here. It's LA.

I think I'm going to see some famous people. I get all excited. And then people ask me for pictures. And I'm like, oh, wait, who? What? Oh, me. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I'll do that. Sure. And they're like, do you mind? I'm like, mind? I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, people, honey. Bring it on. You like it? You like the lighting?

You want to do another? Make sure you FaceTune. They get all funny. But seriously, the individual lashes, I'm going to ask her. They'll stay on for at least a week.

I do. And you put them on with the regular glue? Yeah. The same glue as the band? Just the same duo glue. Okay. Because this one,

these are faster, obviously, but to keep them on. So I have the pillow. I need this pillow. I'm going to give you guys a pillow. I wake up with such wonky eyelashes if I keep mine on. I can't.

I mean, listen, it's patented. There's nothing out there on the market. That is amazing. It's not like a bullshit thing. It really works, and I use it all the time. And on the box, I put LLB because I put line those lips, lift those lashes, and beat those brows. Oh. Okay.

And I'm like, those are my hashtags. So I'm going to line that lip. Okay. So I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's just tough shit. It doesn't matter. People are always going to hate on something. Yeah. I mean, you can't please everybody in life.

Literally, I just posted a photo hiking at a waterfall this past week in Hawaii. Uh-huh. And this one girl comments and was like, was dressing appropriately an option? I'm like, I'm going to a waterfall

and I'm in Hawaii. I'm wearing a bikini. Like, what should I be wearing? We get to the airport. I'm with the airport with my husband and five children and my father

who walks with a cane. Okay? The gate was like 110. And when we walked in, we were by, I don't know, it was like 50. So it was like 50 gates we had to walk. So we saw one of those trolley things, you know, that has all the chairs, the seats in it. It looks like a golf cart. Yeah.

It could seat like maybe eight. She passes by us and she's like, do you want to ride? And my husband's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get all the, we have the kids carry on. It's a lot of things. And I posted a story and so many people are like, too lazy to walk. You're too good to walk. Oh my God.

How dare you? You think you're so good you can't even walk through the, I'm like, fuck you. You have no idea like what my situation is. Like it's not because I'm too good. They offered it to anybody. Fuck you. You have no idea what my situation is. It's not because I'm too good. They offered it to anybody. The woman didn't even know that I was a housewife. She was just being courteous.

She saw I had a big group. She saw my father there shaking with his cane. She asked if we wanted a ride. You can't do anything without getting crucified on social media. It's insane. You can't. I try not to read it anymore. Yeah. She's actually on a little Instagram break right now.

Shut it down. I've done it before, too. Like, it was season six when I was actually living in Vegas at the time. I was going through a breakup. And just the way the show was with my ex at the time, I was like, I don't want to watch this. It was putting me in such a negative headspace. I deleted Instagram and Twitter from my phone for six months. My sister was running it for me full time, so I was like, I don't want to watch this. It was putting me in such a negative headspace. I deleted Instagram and Twitter from my phone for six months. My sister was running it for me full time, so I was still active.

That's good. But it was just like I just needed that little bit of a break. Now, back on it for the past year and a half, like I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I'm just like, say what you want. Like if that makes you feel better. They're always going to hate. Go ahead because you can never win.

You could be saving drowning puppies and there would be something wrong with your form. It is. go ahead because you can never win you could be saving drowning puppies and there would be something wrong with your form it is and then when i noticed that it's a dm that's consistently always negative then i block them now i'm like now i gotta mute you bitch because now you're bothering me yeah i first i thought all right let you let her have her peace i don't know i don't know who you are mom two for you i don't know and guess what as soon as i and every time you check back to see if i've unblocked guess what i won't because i don't know who And guess what? As soon as I – and every time you check back to see if I've unblocked, guess what? I won't because I don't know who you are. But you forever will know me and forever will check every now and then like, oh, I wonder, did she unblock me?

No, bitch. Because at the end of the day, they don't realize that we become scanners after a while. You see so many screen names coming down that you really can't even put a name to a face. So you just block automatically like you don't even know you. But they do think. They're like, oh, I bothered her. I got under her skin. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I wanted. And it makes them happy. Yeah, it does. But then after a while, they want to see something because maybe they heard on the news, maybe ETV broadcasted that you posted something. And they're like, oh, let me go. And then it says you've been blocked or can't be found.

And they're like, oh, I thought maybe out of the goodness of our heart. No, honey, I don't know who you are. Yeah, I don't. And I will never know. And I don't care to know. No, no. Who? Who?

You look very small from up here. They're literally selling shirts and like sweatshirts now that say like hashtag blocked by Jax. Yes. Jax has got the right idea he's got the right idea i just block and like i know i talked to some of my cast members they're like who cares don't block just mute i'm like no no they need to be punished for their actions when people say things like really negative and that it's just like like i've had

people literally tell me to like kill myself like you're gonna get blocked if someone just says something annoying like on twitter i'll mute them sure sure and on instagram once i hit a million i learned that i want to stay over a million even if you're haters and following me so i don't block on instagram anymore i'll delete comments that are rude okay but i also like my sister full time, like, one of the things she does for me is my Instagram. I'm on it now every day and active on my own. That's great. But I'll have her sometimes just, like, go through and kind of weed things out because I'm like, I don't need to see this shit because it is hurtful. It's very hurtful.

I don't care, like, what you say. I know, but it doesn't matter. We're still human. Exactly. And the time when they say things, though, that's right and I'm i'm just like oh you're fucking right and i hate you for being right but it's like those are the ones that get to me like when um it was season four when i was dealing with my husband's addiction and i was very uneducated on addiction and alcoholism and all of that and i'm just like i don't get why he can't just like have a couple drinks and catch a buzz like why do you always have to get drunk and people

are like i got so much shit like he's an alcoholic it's a disease it's this it's that and i'm like oh my god you're all right and it was like i that was like the first time i really had like a breakdown because i'm like all these people hating on me are actually right but it helped me and it like made me a better person i would think the same thing though because i don't have an addictive personality. I think like oh if he hasn't drank in so long what's the hurt if he just has a couple of cocktails. We're all having

a good time. Yeah. But some people can't. When you're not educated about the disease enough and understand that it really is an addiction for this particular person. You don't look at it that way. It's not a disease to us. No. No I get that. Yeah so I mean it can be a lot but whatever. You don't look at it that way. It's not a disease to us. No. No, I get that. Yeah, so, I mean, it can be a lot, but whatever.

You got through it. Yes, I did. And you learned from it. And that's the thing, too. It's like, and then it was kind of after that that I stopped blocking people because I'm like, sometimes the haters' feedback, like, it does make me a better person

because I'm like, wow, I didn't see myself that way and the people who love me and are fans of me don't see me that way. But if you're seeing this, then I'm like, wow, I didn't see myself that way. And the people who love me and are fans of me don't see me that way. But if you're seeing this, then I'm like, maybe that is something I need to fix in myself. Sure. And I also feel it's all in your delivery, too. Yeah. Someone, you know, like I'll have people say like, I love you, girl, but you got to stop

lining those lips. And then I'll write back, but it's my thing and people expect it now. Yeah. And then she's like, oh, I guess you're right. Uh-huh. I know somebody was also telling me once I met someone at BravoCon and a fan was like, I love you so much, but you got to stop with the Chanel. It's like so annoying.

Yeah. And I was like, listen, if I'm going to be a poster boy for any brand. Yeah. I don't know. Chanel? I don't mind it. I don't know. And at this point, I told her, I'm like, it's kind of my thing now.

Like, when we're filming and I'll come downstairs, my producer will be like, this was season one. She'll be like, you're not wearing anything Chanel. And I'm like, yeah, and? She's like, yeah, but you're like the Chanel girl. I'm like, yeah, but all housewives kind of like Chanel. Yeah. They all do.

I don't know how I got deemed the poster person, but fine by me. Hell yeah. Fine by me. I'll take it. I'll take it. And no, I don't get any discounts. This is not a paid promotion. And I still pay full price. This is not an ad. No. I just went to yesterday and I already bought myself.

So Bill and I have this thing where we just don't buy for each other anymore. I don't have to check in if I want to get something. But I feel like I do it in moderation. This is my perception. Yeah, I could be wrong, but I'm not sure. And I've already bought myself some nice Chanel's that I put under the tree.

And Bill's like, what did I get you for Christmas? And I'm like, oh, you got me Chanel gloves, two different Chanel hoops, one Chanel fanny pack, and one crossbody. But that's it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. And he was like, that's it? You say that's it like it's a little. And I'm like, yeah But that's it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. And he was like, that's it? You say that's it like it's a little.

And I'm like, yeah, that's it. And then we were in Bavaria. We were at Deo Drive yesterday. And I'm like, well, just, you know, we went into Louis Vuitton. We went to Fendi. The girls wanted all Snapchat and blah, blah, blah. Everyone else was like, let's just see if this Chanel has anything different than mine. And then I saw a little bomber jacket. And you know, like the jacket, they're just so expensive.

It's like everything you touch in there, it's like, boom, $5,000. Boom, $5,000. So you got the jacket. I did. I got the jacket. I got the jacket. And then I got the jacket, and I got some of these hoop earrings that are straight from the runway.

So they were like two, and the jacket was five. And my husband had taken the boys because the girls wanted to stay with me, but he took the boys. It's a big group. My nieces and nephews are four kids. I have five kids. That's nine right off the bat, not to mention the adults in the group.

So then I get back to my sister-in-law's house last night, and Justin, my oldest, he's 15, he's playing video games. He's like, yeah, Ma. So he gets the notifications on his phone when I charge on the American Express. Your son does? My son. Is he gets the notifications on his phone when I charge on the American Express. Your son does?

My son. Because we're – so thank God. Is he the responsible party? No, because his iTunes account is linked to mine, the iTunes. So because I get the notifications, he gets my notifications. He's like, yeah, Ma. How is that? He's like, I was like, what the hell is taking them so long? And then I saw the alert that it was $7,000 on the Amex.

And I'm like, did your father see it? He's like, no, I just got it. I was like, oh, thank God. Don't mention it to your dad. I'm going to just try to do the online payments. Because sometimes I do that. I just do the online. We're on automatic pay.

Sometimes he doesn't even look over the bell. You've got it all figured out. Thank God. So smart. Thank God. We've got to hide that shit you know I don't know we were out to dinner once

and he was like is that bag new I'm like this I've had it for like I don't know two weeks vintage I actually said

I'm like I've had this I don't know it's been like two weeks and then him too he thought he was gonna be like he's like oh

two weeks really he's like baby I'm sick I'm sick I acknowledge hello my name is Jennifer and I'm addicted, baby, I'm sick. I'm sick. I acknowledge. Hello, my name is Jennifer, and I'm addicted to Chanel. Yes.

I'm sorry. It's my thing. Well, it's a good brand to be addicted to. I'm fine with it. So you brought a couple of your daughters here today. Yes, my two girls and my two nieces. Yes, and actually, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about, do you call her Gabriella or Gabby? I call her Gabby.

Okay. I tried to do Ella in the beginning because I was like, I don't like Gabby. When she was first born, I wanted to be bougie. She's like, I hear you guys talking about me. You're an Ella. You're an Ella. And then after a while, I looked at her and I was like, you know what? You're not an Ella. You're a Gabby. Yeah. I love that. Okay, so I must

say, Gabby and her and Gia are two of the most eloquent speaking kids I've ever seen on television. Thank you. That episode when she's giving you advice and Gia's two of the most eloquent speaking kids like I've ever seen on television. I mean, that episode when she's giving you advice and Gia's giving Teresa advice and I'm like, oh my God, the kids are literally like, it was just, it was so cool to see someone so young. Thank you.

And I mean, I think you really like took that to heart, like everything she had said to you. Absolutely. And you know, I feel like Teresa and I parent in a lot of the same way um she's very all about her kids she's also very accommodating to her kids like i am one may say i spoil my children i'm just saying but i feel like not only do i spoil them with things i spoil them with a lot of love and attention which is so much more important yeah you know and they know that so and they get that and the end of the day they always want mommy yeah you know like our number one thing when we go out to dinner is they're always

fighting as to who's going to sit next to me I mean like these are the fights that we go through so I the way that I parent Gabby is I try to give a lot of love and attention. And I always try to tell them, like, you guys can come to me for everything, anything. Because I didn't have a mom like that. My mom was off the boat. And if I ever tried to even mention something to her, the judgment, the criticism, you know, sometimes we got smacked here and there. Like, they did that back in the day. So I was constantly afraid of my mom, and I wanted to hide everything from my family. Yeah. And I that sucked. Yeah. Because, you know, then you look for friends and then your friends are not that great. And then you're sitting here wondering, like, when what's my

purpose and when am I going to find that one person that I could tell everything to? It's not going to backstab me. You know, there was a time when I was in college where I had more guy friends than girlfriends because girlfriends were always like stabbing me in the back yeah so petty and jealous and my guy friends like just it wasn't that deep like they were just there and they were I never had to worry about anything like that so with my kids I try to always tell them like come to me for everything anything I'm not going to be judgmental. I'm always going to help you. I'm always going to support you. And we have a big line of communication in my house.

You can tell. You can absolutely tell. Like I, sometimes I used to think when I had my first kid, I'm like, oh, how can I dumb this down? How can I dumb this thought down so that I can make it in a way that my child can understand it? And then I told myself, you know what? Why am I so concerned about changing the lingo? If you talk to kids like you talk to adults, they get it. We have to give them more credit.

Absolutely. You know, they get it. So just go down to their level, talk to them, say things in the eye. Like they used to watch these shows growing up on Nickelodeon, and there was this one show, Degrassi or something. And I think think yeah yeah they used to watch it all the time and um there was a promo about first time a gay couple or like a boy liking a boy and i remember justin was like mommy mommy look two boys kissing and i looked at him and i looked at the screen and i said well well what's wrong with that and he's like no it's supposed to be a boy and a girl.

And I'm like, yeah, sometimes it's a boy and a girl. Sometimes it's a boy and a boy. Sometimes it's a girl and a girl. Sometimes it's a boy that likes a girl and a boy. You know, there's a lot of different types of people out there, babe. And then he looked at me and he was like, oh, okay. Yeah. You know?

It's about the energy that you put off about it. Exactly. You're so accepting. And I noticed that actually on the episode we watched last night with Gabby asking about your brother. Yeah. And it almost like it brought tears to my eyes the way you described like the way you were just so upfront with her but also loving and like but that's okay, right? And it was just so heartfelt and I was just like, wow, she's a great mom. Because for a second there when she told me that like I didn't realize that she was – okay, okay.

For a second there, when she told me that, like, I didn't realize that she was. Okay, okay. So when we were filming that, she was doing homework for most of the time, and I didn't think she heard what Stephen and I were saying. And when we were leaving the room and she called me back and she whispered in my ear, I was caught off guard because not that I wanted to hide it from her, but I just wasn't prepared as to what my answer was going to be. Right. So I'm like, okay. And I was doing that thing where I'm looking for the words to dumb it down. And then finally I'm like, you know what? This is too hard.

I'm like, yes. Yes, baby. He's gay. And he's still the same person. Okay? And because I've always taught them acceptance from a young age with things that they've seen from other people, I think she was more, she was like, I know, but I just didn't know.

And I was like, you know, it doesn't change who he is. He still loves you the same, and he's still going to do all the things that he does with you the same. Like, nothing has changed. Shouldn't make a difference. That was such a beautiful moment. I really liked that. It was one of my favorites, to be honest. I saw the episode when they were talking about how she gets bullied in school. I literally cried when I watched.

I rewound that, and I watched it again because in junior high, I got bullied really bad. I would get death threats sent to me. It was seventh and eighth grade were the absolute worst years of my life where I was never suicidal at all. I have an amazing family. But I would wake up every morning just being like, it would just be better if I was dead. Everyone would be happier. My mom had just had my little sister. So I'm like 12, 13. My sister's just being born being born there was no one in between I was pretty much an only child

and so whenever I see that with kids like one of my little cousins gets bullied really bad to the point where she's like sat in the bathroom and like has lunch by herself and it just right it breaks my heart and then seeing that with her it was just like it was such a good moment between the two of you. And I think you're seeing so much more of your personality this season, which I love. Yeah, me too. Because last season it was like, oh, the one after.

Last season it was like everyone hated me. 37 bathrooms. I was like, oh, my God, I'm not about bathrooms. There's so much more to me. But then this season just like seeing those moments and like her giving you advice like, well, Mom, if you hurt her feelings, like you should apologize. And it was just like you kind of had that epiphany of like, well, mom, if you hurt her feelings, like you should apologize. And it was just like, you like kind of have that epiphany of like,

oh shit, my kid's right. I did. I did. I did. You know, and it was so heartbreaking for me to see her go through that with her friends. Cause when we had first moved, we were new to Paramus. Like, obviously I just moved into the house. That's another thing that people don't get. Like when I first started the show, I had just moved into that house and I don't come from that. I don't come from that. I don't come from that. So when you don't come from that and you're in that now all of a sudden, it's exciting. And I know I'm curious about it because before I built that house, I used to go – me and my husband used to go what I call house looking. I used to go to look in the all-beautiful homes and like take pictures of the outside and be like, I like this about that home and I like this about that home.

So it was new to me. I was very excited. And I know that people are curious, and I like this about that home. So it was new to me. I was very excited. And I know that people are curious, especially people who don't come from that. So in order to appease their curiosity, and people get awkward. They get shy to ask. So they'll come in my house and look around and be like, wow, it's pretty big. I wonder how many bedrooms this house is. So I'll be like, oh, you want to know?

It's nine bedrooms, 16 bathrooms. We have an indoor theater. We have an indoor basketball court. We have an indoor – So, like, when I was doing that on the show and I was watching it, I was like, oh, my God, cringeworthy. Like, people are curious, and I think I'm doing them a solid. Right.

Right? But here I am as the bragger when I'm just like, I hate people who brag. But I do not talk – But you're proud of it. I'm proud of it. So who decides? Where's the line? Where's the fine line between sharing and bragging?

Right. Like, I'm just simply sharing my every day. So that was last year. So this year with Gabby, when we first moved to Paramus, she had made these three specific girls. They hung out breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day. I would host sleepovers. I don't let my daughters sleep out, but I don't mind people sleeping over our house.

So I would host sleepovers. They would come over. I would take them to carnivals. I would take them away to weekends, like out in Camelback here and there. I'd host. The parents send them with $20. I'm like, what am I going to do with 20 bucks? Save it for the fucking vending machine, okay?

I got you. And Gabby got used to their companionship. Like sometimes people become habit, right? Right. You're with them all the time. And then all of a sudden one day they just, one of them got a boyfriend and Gabby didn't like the fact that she was spending,

they're fucking 11 years old at this point, 11 years old, she's a boyfriend, and I think Gabby was jealous of the time the girl was spending with her boyfriend, so was vocal about some stuff, and then all of a sudden they didn't like Gabby for being vocal about the boyfriend, and it was three of them,

and two of them were sisters, so the one sister that kind of didn't want to fight with Gabby ended up having to fight with Gabby. And then they were like, you can't sit at our table anymore. And so it started with that, with her not sitting at the table. And initially she didn't first tell me. I found out because there was another girl that they also shunned that Gabby became friends with. And her mother is the one who told me that they had to leave the different table.

So they found the boys' table. And the boys' table was long enough so it was boys on one side and then two girls on the end, which was Gabby and her new friend. But the boys at this table, one of them was the boyfriend of these girls. Oh, no. So he stood up and he's like, we don't want you sitting here. You can't sit with us. And, you know, Gabby's kind of strong. She was like, well, I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying here. And, you know, Gabby's kind of strong. She was like,

well, I'm not, I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying here. And then that's when they threw the food at her. They started throwing food at her and the aid saw the aid sent them down to the office. And then, then they did a thing where it's like, only if you had a post-it hanging on your shoulder, were you allowed to sit at those two tables so these girls and the boyfriends gave post-its to everybody except my Gabby and except her friend so cruel it's and they would be the lockers would be right by Gabby and they would tell each other like oh I love your post-it you're you can sit at the table and she's like yeah girl I love your post-it meanwhile Gabby and her friend didn't have post-its and she And she would come to me and tell

me these stories. And then I wanted to get involved. I was like, you know what? These girls have been friends since she moved here. Like, what happened? So I called one of the moms and I said, can we have a meeting? Can we do like a group thing and see if we can get these girls? Like, what happened? So I had a meeting with the mom. We went to Panera and it was me, the mom, the girl, and my Gabby, and then another mom and another girl. And the girl who dropped Gabby, she's taking her water bottle and flipping it, just like completely not engaged, not making eye contact. We're all trying to have a discussion.

So I looked at her. I said, listen, I'm like, excuse me. I'm like, you really don't seem like you care to be here. If you don't want to be her friend anymore this is a safe space nobody's gonna be mad at you but if there's nothing left to work on we should know so we should stop wasting our time and the girl was like yeah kinda I don't want to be her friend anymore and as she's saying this the tears are perpetually coming down Gabby's face. She can't even help it. She's not crying.

Just the tears are just coming. And she's trying to like, her lip is quiver. I mean, does this come from her mother? Like, could you tell like the mom? Well, her mother said, her mother looked at her daughter and was like, I'm really disappointed in you. I'm surprised that you're being like this. And they were trying to tell me, because I think when this whole boyfriend thing was going on, Gabby had called, I guess maybe behind her back, her friend a whore. And the mother was like, you know, you can't say whore like that in their grade and take it lightly. And then I looked at the other mom.

I was like, listen, with all due respect, my fucking eight-year-old walks around running saying suck my dick. I don't think he really knows. I don't think he really knows what suck my dick means i mean they're in six seventh eight like that's what they say whore slut that's like their go-to bad word i don't even know if they understand the meaning of it right and she apologized she apologized for calling her that bad word that's number one number two your daughter's on fucking social media, like humping the air and doing tick tocks to sexual songs. If my daughter is not saying that about her, I bet you somebody else is. And at the end of the day, they're not whores. So what does it matter? And she apologized. Yeah, I think at that point, they just decided they didn't want to

be friends with Gabby anymore. And then I was you know what you're fine because you know what I'm done catering to you people all right I'm not gonna I'll save some money by her not being your friend and I'd rather spend it on her and other things that she enjoys so yeah it was hard for her because like she was used to hanging out with them every day and it was like now she was coming home on her phone watching all their snapchats and all the things that she's not invited to. And I was like, I'm going to take your phone away. I'm going to take your phone away. I'm going to disconnect your Snapchat and get it off.

And she was like, no, Mommy, Mommy, please don't. And I was like, well, I don't want you to sit here and live in the past or feel like you're missing out. Because guess what? The best revenge you'll ever have on these girls is to live your best life. Yep. So put that phone down. Okay, let let's go out let's me and you do something let's go you want to go ice skating you want to go to the mall and she'd be like oh can we go to lush let's go to fucking lush yeah let's go to town at lush honey let's get your spirits up and don't think about them anymore yeah you know and she's now found a new set of friends good she became really good

friends with her cousin this summer. And at the end of the day, you just need one good one. That's it. Right? Yeah. Literally. One fucking bestie that you can go back and forth to. It's better than a whole bunch of nobodies.

Exactly. You know? Oh, good. That makes me happy. So that's where she's at now. Yeah. That just broke my heart when I saw it because it hit so close to home for me. And I never told my parents anything I was going through.

Like, they had no idea. I got in a fist fight the last day of eighth grade. Yeah, mine too. And my parents had no idea. My parents too. I went through my fair share too. People didn't like me. I was a late bloomer.

So not bullying, but just impressioning. Yes. I had a lot of questions come in for you, and a lot of people want to hear you do a Lisa Vanderpump impression. Oh, yes. And so do I. Oh my god. I don't even know when was the last time I've seen her. I can't even think of her right now. Can I see a video of her?

We'll come back to that. Well I need to see like I'm like a parakeet. Like if I hear you then I can mimic you. And I haven't heard Lisa in so long. Yeah. She's been out of... She's been MIA a little bit, right? Yeah.

I'm not even keeping up with all the drama. I usually just go with, like, darling. Yes. Add that in. Okay. Everything is a darling. Yeah. Diamonds and rosé.

Diamonds and rosé. I guess. What are your thoughts on Teresa and Joe splitting? I mean, I feel like we all knew that was coming. And, you know, right now they're just, I think, just, they're still not divorced. Nothing has happened. Right. But she is dating the pool guy.

She's not dating him. No. That's so crazy. Okay. Yeah, I know. No, you know why? That's like an old family friend. Right. And he's been friends with Joe, Gorga, her brother.

Yes. For a while, so. It seemed like they had some chemistry this season. I mean, I did see that, but like, Therese is very friendly, and she's a flirt. Yeah. She's a flirt with everybody. I'm the same way. You know, I flirt too with everybody.

I'm like, it's when you start hiding it is when it's a problem. Okay. That's what I always say. Gotcha. I texted Priscilla last night. I was like, I'm going to be in New York in a few weeks. I was like, can Teresa do my podcast? Oh, okay.

Would you do it? Okay, yeah. Teresa's cool like that. Yeah, I love her. I was like, tell her my boyfriend will be there too so she can do it. She's so down to earth. And she's really just such a great mom. Yeah.

I love her. I met her. So it was, I think, 2012. It was 2012 or 13. It was, like, our first season. And they did the big, like, upfront Bravo event. And my whole cast hated me the first season. Like, they were trying to get me off the show, even though I was, like, the one who, like, jump-started the whole thing.

They all wanted me off it because they were all friends, and I was the outsider and whatever. So we're at this big upfront event. I've never seen a show on Bravo. I know nothing about this network at all. I'm there with just a bunch of random people, and I'm standing by myself, and this guy with a Jersey accent comes up to me, and I can't do a Jersey accent, so I won't try.

But he's just like, why are you standing here like by yourself? Like, come hang out. And I was like, okay. And then he's like, hi. He's like, I'm joe and it was joe gorga oh okay and so he like brings me over to like all of the jersey housewives and husbands he's very friendly i met priscilla melissa like everyone and like ever since that day like that's been one of my favorite shows to watch because i was like they didn't know or i mean i guess they maybe knew like i was on vanderpump rules or whatever but it's like they didn't know. I mean, I guess they maybe knew, like, I was on Vanderpump Rules or whatever. But it's like, they didn't know me.

And they just invited me over to hang out with them because I was just, like, by myself. Yeah, I feel like in Jersey, we're huggers. Yeah. You know, like, I give you a hug. We give some love, a high five. Yeah. You know, just, like, very warm. Yeah.

So from day one, like, Teresa, Joe, Melissa, like, all of them, I have just absolutely loved. Yeah, I know. And I saw the pictures with her and the pool boy, but I know that the pool boy is just he's just the pool boy. Okay. He's a hot pool boy. Yeah. I even texted her. I even texted her. Good thing they didn't take your picture with

somebody fugly, OG. Right. Imagine at least he's a cutie. Yeah, I was like alright. And she's like, yeah, you know, you don't want anyone to be like oh, what is she doing with him? He's so ugly. Yeah. No, he's a cutie. Fuck it. All right, now what about Dolores? I love her. She's amazing.

I feel like, yeah, she's so sweet. From the day I met her, oh my God, I love her. So I feel like she definitely films more with her ex-husband than she does with her boyfriend. Yeah. And I feel like they have such a good relationship. And then there's the boyfriend and the ex-husband's building the house for the boyfriend. But with this, like, not love triangle, but where do you see this going? Are her and David, like, you know?

I know for her, she's like, why is everybody bothering me to get married again? You know? She's like, I've already been there, done that. Right. And right now she's enjoying the best of both worlds. David is a great companion for her for dating. She screams her accolades about how great their sex life is. And then Frank is the one that does everything for her that, like, a husband would do.

I'm like, sounds to me like you got the best of both worlds, honey. I don't know what we're complaining about because I was too. I was like, oh, don't you want a commitment? But you think, like, that's what we're supposed to do as women right we date somebody and then we want a commitment right because we like to be monogamous women we don't we don't we want to know that you only want to be with me either also right and men sometimes they have a problem with monogamy you know so we need some kind of insurances and guarantees. But he is a doctor. He's a high-risk pregnancy doctor. So he works a lot. And she's not that demanding from him because she's like, you know what?

It's been working out great so far. She's like, you know. Yeah. But is she kind of getting her needs fulfilled with her ex-husband? And at some point that might be a recipe for disaster because I don't know if he's dating or with anyone. But at some point is someone going to come in and be like, hey, ease up on the ex-wife. Give me the attention.

I think that's really the hardest thing is like when the new people come in. To understand that. To understand it. But they're still living together, right? They do. Yeah. But they really are just best friends. Good.

Okay. I don't think they're just sexually attracted to each other anymore. You know, people are like, oh, you want them to get back together. There's a lot of people out there that live together, that stay married. I mean, at least they were willing to get divorced and date other people, you know. Right. But they seem to get along great. So if it works for them.

If they're happy, that's all right. Exactly. Everybody has their own recipe of what works for them. Yeah. You know, it may not be good for another guy who is like highly insecure. But obviously, David is secure in his relationship. I'm sure David knows if he were to put a ring on it, she'd probably say yes. Right.

I'm sure he knows that. Like everybody's kind of like said it to him in more ways than one. Like we got like fucking picket signs. Like, David, when are you going to propose? Hey, when are you giving her that thing, that big diamond for the ring? We want the ring. As long as she's happy and it works for her. Yeah.

Good. And she's like, you know what? I'm not going to push the situation. It's working so far so good until something happens where Frank's not in her life anymore because he has to go to be with some other girl. She's like, I'm not going to press the issue. And it works for her. She's happy.

She's very happy. I love that because I love Dolores and I just want her to be happy. And it's like when you know, I mean, I know so well when you watch a show, you're seeing part of it. Sure. Not the whole story. It's a screenshot of a much bigger picture. Exactly.

Oh, I like that. That's what I tell people. I like that. Yes. That's a good one. Okay. Last thing that I wanted to talk to you about, and then I have a couple of fan questions. So we both know this, but for my listeners, I love the story of how you met your husband.

Yes. Okay, so that's kind of like a long story, but I talk fast, so that'll be good. So we believe in setting people up as far as marriage, like people from my church. You kind of go to church and you're like, oh my God, he's hot. Let's get the 411 on him. Let's get our parents talking together. You meet, you go out on a date.

You're like, he's pleasant, she's pleasant. Let's make this work and boom, pop a marriage. So I had this guy who really liked me that I didn't like, but my parents liked him for me. And he was going to my brother-in-law's wedding, which is my husband's brother. He got married here in LA, August 26th. And we were invited to the wedding and my dad's family, he has aunts and uncles that live here. So they were also invited to the wedding. You know, like it's like my big fat Greek wedding.

You have to kind of invite everybody from the church. So what year is this? This was 2002. Okay. So I wanted to go to LA, but I didn't like this guy that my parents were pushing me to marry. And he was going to the wedding. And I was like, I don't want to go. He's going to be all over me.

I'm not attracted to him. And my mom was like, what's attraction? What? He's going to treat you like What? He's going to treat you like queen. He's going to buy you anything you want. Who cares? Love. Do you think I love your father? That's exactly what she would say. And I was like, yeah, but like, I'm educated. I grew up in America. Like I want it. This is the rest of your life. You're going to wake up next to him. I want to be attracted to him. And I had a

girlfriend, Sahar, that I went to high school with, my Persian best friend that was from high school, lived out here. And I was always broke. People think I came from money. I was always broke. I had no fucking money. And my girlfriend who lived out here, she's like, your parents are going to buy you a ticket to come to LA. Let them buy you the ticket. We'll go to Palm Springs for two days. We'll have so much fun. I was like, I don't have any money. She's like, we'll find some suckers to pay for us. I'm like, okay, we could totally do that. And finally, I decided to go to the wedding. But I told my mom, no matter what, I'm not going to warm up to this guy who likes me, who was also invited to the wedding. So when I went to this wedding, obviously my brothers with me, my parents were at the church. And I see my husband kind of

walk down the aisle because he was the best man trying to get to his location right because he's going to be up at the altar with the groom and I'm like looking at him and he was like fucking Rico Suave he was uber tan he had this long greasy mullet which I found so fucking hot it was like all gelled slick back hair and then like kind of long in the back and And he was so tan and those dark eyes. And I was just kind of looking at him and my brother's like, did you ever meet James's brother? I was like, no, no, I don't think so. I would remember him.

I would remember him. And the thing is, my brother, I'm sure you know, is in the jewelry business. Hi, Brothers Jewelry Store, John Michaels. My brother's a jeweler. My uncles are jewelers. My three uncles on my mother's Store, John Michaels. My brother's a jeweler. My uncles are jewelers. My three uncles on my mother's side are jewelers. Everybody's a fucking jeweler. And Bill's family is all jewelers also.

Bill's father is a jeweler. Bill's five uncles are jewelers. Everybody's a jeweler. So because we were in the jewelry business, we got invited to this wedding and we were there. But I never met Bill because he was in medical school and I didn't know that. I didn't know that I didn't know like I'm thinking how could I have not have seen him I've been to so many trade shows I've

been all over how could I not have seen him so then that night um so when you first saw him though was it like love at first for me yeah yeah because my I was in that zone I was 23 years old so I was on the prowl honey I was looking for a good one I was done dating those American guys that treat you like shit and make you fucking pay your way get the hell out of here with that I need someone to open the door for me I need somebody to be nice to me and I don't need to think that you're cheating on me every five minutes

so when I Bill was such a gentleman and he went to my brother and he's like while you guys are in town I'd love to take you out to dinner and that's kind of how it guys are in town, I'd love to take you out to dinner. And that's kind of how it works. Like the brothers or the families talk. And then the next night we went to the Cheesecake Factory in Pasadena.

Oh, my God. Okay. And I was so nervous. And the guy who originally liked me, he was blowing up my brother's phone all day. I was like, don't you dare pick up the phone. Don't you dare. And then he was like, oh, well, that guy Bill called me too. I'm like, well, that we could do. I'm like well that that we could do I could

I think I could swing that okay that I think I do I get all dolled up and we go to the cheesecake factory where he's there with all his cousins he has like 51 cousins

and I'm thinking the whole time like wow this sucks he lives in LA how's this gonna work okay like can I live here I guess I could live here

it's sunny all the time everyone's happy everyone's on fucking weed I don't know I guess I could do that. It's sunny all the time. Everyone's happy. Everyone's on fucking weed. I don't know. I guess I could do that. You know, kumbaya every day. And then we couldn't find the location.

So my brother's like, can you call him from my phone? And I saw it was a 917 number. And I was like, why does he have a 917 number? And he was like, because he goes, because he's a doctor at St. Vincent's. He lives in Manhattan. I was like, yes! Yes, honey! So I was like, now I got to go fishing. And I got to, like, swing the bait.

I can't look too thirsty because, you know, that's such a turnoff. So then it was like I was cool. I made my jokes. I made him laugh. And then at the end of the night when we were leaving, he kissed me on the cheek. And he was like, call me when you get to New York. And that was it. Oh, my God.

And then I was like, fuck, how am I going to call? I don't call guys. Guy called me. OK, I don't call. I'm not thirsty. They got to call me. So I did star six, seven when I first called him. So I didn't have my number.

And then I knew he wouldn't answer. So it would go to voicemail. Then I left my number for him. And then he called me back. OK, that's a smart move. Hey, honey, you don't got to know how to work. You got then he called me back. Okay. That's a smart move. Hey, honey. You don't got to know how to work it. You got to wheeling and dealing.

Yes. So then we got back to New York and we were just on the phone. We were on the phone talking. And obviously I wasn't going to ask him out on a date. We're talking for one week, two weeks, then like three weeks. Then I was like thinking like, is this guy gay? Like what's going on? He's not asking me out on a date. But I think he was just, we were getting to know each other.

We had those conversations. You know when you first start with a guy, you're like on the phone for hours. Yep. And we were just getting to know each other. And at the end of the day, he knew that he couldn't ask me out without serious intentions because of our culture. So he just wanted to make sure. Like he already liked the way that I looked. He wanted to make sure like he already liked the way that I looked he wanted to make sure that our personalities matched before because if he goes out with me a few times and nothing happens

there is a possibility that that can get out and then like my family name can be shamed really yeah like oh she went out with him without having serious intentions so she must be a slot or she must be this oh wow so like everything's like everything's like on the DL. Like, no, no, no. I don't do anything. I serve coffee and I cook and clean and I'm a very good little village girl. Yes. Yes. You got to play the role, honey, until you're married and then you can let her show everything.

So then and after finally we were on the phone for like seven weeks, we were on the phone. Finally, he asked me out on a date. And the first night we ever went out, we had the best time. No kissing. Nothing. And then he was was like what are you doing this weekend um let's go to Atlantic City for the day and I was like okay great sure so we went to Atlantic City for the day and we're at a restaurant this is the second time we're out on a date and he's kind of holding my hand and he's like you know you're gonna be my wife one day right oh my gosh and I said yeah I think I know that and he was like that's great and then the following he's like what are you doing next you're going to be my wife one day, right? Oh my gosh. And I said, yeah, I think I know that.

And he was like, that's great. And then the following, he's like, what are you doing next weekend? I have a wedding I got to go to. I want you to be my date. So now we're at the wedding, date three. He starts introducing me as his fiance to everybody. The first thing they do is they look at my ring finger to see if there's a ring. And he's like, oh, my father's a jeweler.

Her father's a jeweler. The ring is the easy part. Yeah. So then on our fourth date, he was like, listen, my cousins really want to meet you because they want to be bridesmaids. Oh, my God. Now, I was always those girls that, like, didn't want any bridesmaids. I thought it would be nicer if I had a whole bunch of little flower girls because I thought at the time, like, bridesmaids were coming to a point where they were getting tacky. So I was like, but I didn't want to, like, disappoint him because, you know, you want to be pleasant when you're first getting a guy. You know, it's not until they sign the paper on the red line that you can show them your true colors.

So I was like, oh, bridesmaids? Okay. I kind of didn't want them. But that's great. I'd love to meet your cousins. And then the following week it was like, let's go book our hall. So Bill never proposed to me. He never got down on one knee.

He never proposed. And it was so funny because this was like, I met him August and I didn't get the ring and then Christmas time came around and I thought I was going to get a ring. I got a Louis Vuitton bag, not going to complain. Yeah. It was my first ever. My first ever. I was like, oh, okay, cool.

But I had already booked my haul for August 25th, right? So it's December. I have no engagement ring. Okay. I look like a fucking single white female when I'm talking about my wedding. They're like, oh, yeah, you're engaged?

Sure. I don't know what she's on or whatever. I don't know what she's on. So then Valentine's Day came around and he gave me a diamond heart. Gorgeous, big diamond heart pendant.

And I tried not to show my disappointment because it was diamonds. And then my birthday came. My birthday was April. I'm getting married in August. Still no engagement ring. Still no engagement ring. My birthday was April. I'm getting married in August. Still no engagement ring. Still no engagement ring.

My birthday's here. I'm like, now I'm getting the ring. I'm sure I'm getting the ring. Remember, I'm still getting to know him. So I don't want to do anything to turn him off. I'm like, I'm getting this guy to marry me. I'm having 600 people at my wedding on his dime. Because in our culture, the guy pays for the wedding.

Because I don't want to do anything to fuck it up. And then my birthday comes. And he gave me diamond studs and I start crying. And he's like, what's the matter? You don't like it? I'm like, I like it, baby. I do. I do. But where's the ring?

The ring! He's like, you want that? He's like, I just thought I'd give it to you the day of the wedding. He's like, my brother gave it to his wife the day of the wedding. I'm like, your wife's brother was from France. She didn't speak any English. Who knew if she even fucking ever saw a diamond? Okay, I need a diamond.

He was like, okay, baby, we have the stone. Just pick a setting and we'll set it. And then finally I got my ring. Yes. It took fucking forever. You were patient. Wow. I was.

I really wanted that wedding. Yeah. I wanted that. I didn't want to do anything to turn him off. And it really was. And after we got married, that was our hardest year of our relationship because, you know, I wasn't used to living with someone else. And I had some, like, habits that I never knew were bad.

And he used to scold me on them. So I used to be like, oh, my God, I'm just not measuring up. I'm not measuring it up. And I kept just always trying to be the best wife and then finally everything was okay after that aww I don't try so hard anymore

but it still works it still works you know he's like my best friend and I could be completely like I would do this whole interview same as I did with him next to me and not feel like I'm walking on any eggshells. And I feel that's really, really hard in a relationship. When I ask my husband for permission to do something, it's out of love and respect. It's not because I need his permission.

Because you're going to do it anyway. I'm going to do it anyway. But it's because I care enough about him to let him know, like, I care what you think. Yeah. You know? I love that. I care what you think. Yeah, like last season.

What's wrong with that? It didn't come off that way. It didn't. Like I love my husband and I care if I'm disappointing him in some way. Yeah. And it's respect.

The minute we stop and I even say to him so many times and you'll see when you're married in relationships it goes up and down. Yeah I'm divorced.

Yes. But when you marry finally the right person it's listen it's constant compromise it's not easy even when you love each other to pieces it's uphills and downhills and sometimes you just gotta ride the wave out and he's the type that like i could tell him anything you know so what better type of relationship is that and i always tell him like if one day we stop loving each other that i'm I may be okay with

that but not losing respect for one each other one another the minute respect is out the door that's that's the day this marriage is over because that means that we don't give a shit about what the other person thinks yeah and we're gonna have no courtesy and respect when we make our decisions and that's not how marriage is every decision you make you always have to consider somebody else because you're connected to somebody else and maybe they're not into that yeah you know you have to be respectful of that and listen i pick and choose my battles there are some things that i really care it's not always the same sometimes i win sometimes he wins yeah and when i see he's really adamant about something i comply comply. Yeah. We were just talking about this last night. I'm just like, there are things that, I mean, my boyfriend and I have only been together a few months,

but there are some things like beliefs and things that we just don't see eye to eye on. But I'm like, it's not a deal breaker. No. And I'm like, you know, pick your battles and you figure out what works, what doesn't. And it's like, you know, one day that might be a bigger issue, but right now it's not. And I'm not going to like try and like put this on you and him put this on me it's just like everything's working out great and it's still so new but it's like we but you have to be like that otherwise you'll never be in a relationship with anybody else because you're never gonna find somebody

else that's exactly like you there is no other person i don't want a female or a man that's exactly like you like there's always going or man, that's exactly like you. Like there's always going to be compromise. That's why I always feel – I actually believe in like when people get married younger, they're young and stupid because they don't know any better, right? You're young and stupid and you think I'm willing to take all of it in. And then after a while, you like wake up and you're like, wait a second. I'm not willing to take all of that. There's got to be a balance here.

And if there's no balance, that's when you know the relationship is not going to work. Yeah. Well, speaking of battles, what's going on with you and Bethany? Oh, gosh. I mean, nothing on my end. Oh. I always, like, watched. I remember her from the show.

I have nothing against her. I was surprised that she said that because, you know, where did that come from when I joined this Bravo team and after I filmed my first season I kind of looked at it as we're Bravo family okay you are my Bravo family until you give me a reason not to be my Bravo family okay so when she said this about me I'm like dude bitch don't we go oh aren't we on the same team here I mean I know she left I know she left but doesn't, I'm like, dude, bitch, aren't we on the same team here? I mean, I know she left. I know she left, but doesn't she get it?

Like, we're on TV, and sometimes the edit is not as great, or sometimes, you know, we say things because we say it in the heat of the moment. Like, bitch, why are you coming for me? I don't know you. I don't know you, and I don't owe you anything. And you know what? Like I said, she's right. She said something like, said no one funny about themselves ever. And I was like, well, you know what? I'm definitely different.

You're right in that. Because the things I say said no one ever. Yeah. Okay. And I'll say it again. And I'm original. And that's me. And I'm the funny girl.

And I'm not a comedian because I don't want to do stand-up comedy. That's not my vibe. But you totally could. I probably could because I feel like, you because I don't want to do stand-up comedy. That's not my vibe. But you totally could. I probably could because I feel like, you know, you can learn to do anything. Yeah. But people having like that comedic timing, that is just natural. And people have always told me that I'm funny. I think I'm pretty damn fucking hilarious if you ask me.

But that's just me. That's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. She's entitled to her opinion. Maybe she doesn't think I'm funny. She's off to producing now. She's entitled to her opinion. Maybe she doesn't think I'm funny. She's off to producing now. She's off to her better and bigger things. Like, I don't know why she's coming for me, a new girl.

But I've obviously made an impact on her. So, yeah. What's up, Bethany? Boom. I'm going to end it with one question from Jacqueline underscore Nora. Wants to know what your favorite piece of Chanel is that you own. It would have to be this little Swarovski crystal evening bag. The whole thing is just all crystals.

And even the C's are in crystals. It was a very expensive bag. It fits nothing. It's not practical. Just for looks. It's awful. It just looks very blingy. It looks like a diamond.

And I think it's my most expensive Chanel bag. I love that. Yeah. It's all blinged out crystal, like a rectangle evening. It matches everything. Yeah. And the whole thing just looks like ice, ice baby. Love it.

Well, there you go. Thanks for being here. This was so fun. Yeah. Tell everyone where they can follow you. We can follow me. My handle is Jennifer Aiden. It's A-Y-D-I-N. That's an Instagram. That's Twitter. And that's Facebook. My handle is Jennifer Aiden. It's a Y-D-I-N.

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