Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Sex Tips with Jai Rodriguez

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

Queer Eye for the Straight Guy star and co-star with Scheana in Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man…Jai Rodriguez joins in on the Scheananigans! He’s talking about his time on Quee...r Eye, how his career began almost by accident, his one man show, portraying himself authentically and not just who people tell him, and his radio show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 after all new episodes of Supergirl, only on The CW. From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, guys? We are here again, Shenanigans. I've got my mom here. I think she's kind of just becoming my regular co-host slash social media person.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Hi. So, hey. And sitting next to me, I have so many cool friends. I realize most of my guests I introduce, I'm like, so this is a really good friend of mine. But his name is Jay Rodriguez. You guys probably recognize him from every TV show you've ever seen, including Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. How are you? Hi, I'm good. This is so crazy. I remember talking to you when you were first going to, when you were trying to go back and forth from Vegas to do this. So what you guys might not know is Jay played the role of Dan Anderson in Vegas. Sex Tips.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yes. That's right. You forgot the name of your show. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man. Trust me. Boom. Everyone kept trying to make those.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I was like, I don't know. I'm like, wait. Yeah, that show. Sex Tips. Yeah. Kind of a big deal. So Jay is kind of the reason that I got that job in Vegas. I knew you were an actor.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And I was like, I know she's a history of acting before. And you'd come see the show because you're friends with Kendra. Yeah. And you. Yeah, and me. And she was playing Robin Brown. And so I knew Kendra was leaving the show. And I was up in the air if I was going to leave or stay.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And the producers were really trying to figure out who would be the right fit, not just a name, someone who would actually act the role. And I brought you up, and they're like, immediately, do you think she would do it? They were automatically in. Yeah, literally the day after, this is last October, I'm like going through my breakup, not in a good place. I go to Vegas and I ended up doing a girls' night, went and saw Jay and Kendra in the show, totally fell in love with it.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I saw boobs that night. What? Wasn't that the night that when you were- You saw my boobs? No, it was when your girlfriend... When your girlfriend showed me your boobs. It was her 21st birthday. Yes, I think she did.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, it was Vegas. It was Vegas. I was like, wait, was I that tipsy? Yeah, and then the next day you called me and were like, would you be interested in putting yourself on tape for this? And I was like, no. One of those things where it's like too good to be true and you're like yeah sure that would be great headline in vegas not thinking it would actually happen same
Starting point is 00:04:51 with me i was like this is never gonna actually happen for me but it's really for those who don't know what it really means like sheena was on a gazillion billboards like there was all these posters everywhere cab tops you become like a celebrity in that town and if you think about all the many people who have had that, it's a huge honor. You know what I mean? To like just say bucket list item checked off. Yeah. Headliner in Vegas in an actual like big casino like the Paris. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:16 That's cool. Literally still, I was just there this weekend. They still have my video. I love it. On the Jumbotron. Of course they do. In the casino. We like walked in. I was like, Adam, look, it's me. False advertising, but hey. So yeah. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:05:33 we'll talk more about Vegas because I want to hear about your experience. So we, did we meet at the white party? Was that the first day I met you? Yeah. And I met the both of you. I think you were there to perform during the pool party. Yes. And I was, I think Lisa, was it a year Lisa was involved at all? Yes. In Palm Springs. Yes, in Palm Springs.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So Lisa Vanderpump and I, I think, were introducing different musical acts, which I thought, of course, was hilarious. At the time, she had just released her Sangria, I think it was. Uh-huh. Whatever it was, she was there to pimp it out to the gates, who were more than happy to have some of it. I remember that. So it's the pool party, right?
Starting point is 00:06:05 But you have to remember, like, some icons have performed at this pool party. Lady Gaga. Yeah, it's Gaga. Yeah. It's considered like a launching pad. It's just a way for the gays to kind of latch in and be like, oh, I love her. So you performed. You were great.
Starting point is 00:06:17 They saved the best for last. You went on, I think, last, closed the set. Then we got all these pictures and I was like, oh, my God, I love her. And then I kept seeing you everywhere in WeHo. Yeah. Yeah. So then I was like, okay, it's in love her. And then I kept seeing you everywhere in WeHo. Yeah. Yeah. So then I was like, okay, it's in.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I love this chick. That was so fun. That was the same year I think Ariana Grande performed. She did, yeah. Yeah. She headlined.
Starting point is 00:06:32 She headlined. So I was like the early, early opener for Ariana Grande. No, but it's still to be You were the day stage. Yeah. The day stage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's fun. It's a good time. And Palm Springs is just a fun reason to get away. I'm going to there this weekend. Oh my God, it was so much fun. Yeah. So I actually just recently got back into doing music.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I was going to ask you. It's been since then. I think I took kind of like a four year break. Yeah. And yeah, we just finished recording my second song. Did you, um, do you, you've had a lot of life happen in four years. Does that make its way into this new song? I don't mean to hijack the interview, but I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hey, who's interviewing who here? Yeah. So the first one that we're going to put out, we're going to release an EP, but I think I'm going to put one single out first just to tease it. And that's called Better Without You. See, there we go. Life is the best songwriter. Like you come from a different place when you've been through things
Starting point is 00:07:25 and then you release it through the performance yeah and i've never written a song before so this is the first song i've ever written and i was like not that i am a lyrical genius by any means but it's real it's my feelings it's not just about one person it's kind of a combination of a few people who have hurt me and that's the best kind and you know a lot of the times we we think that we can't do something like songwriting or whatever, but some of the simplest sentiments that you have that you might just share with your mom or me, like after a show, that little nugget, that little gem could be the hook of the entire song.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. You know, only because you went through something and there's no other way to say it. Totally. Super relatable. Exactly. And then the second one is called Do It Now. Okay. I know what that one's about.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. So that's just, that's my sexy fun. I love it. I am single and I want to go out song. Everyone needs that song. Yeah. It's great. I'll play them for you later.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We debuted them last week here. My producer was here. It was awesome. Love it. So, okay. Well, I mean, it is my show, but it's not always just about me. You are my guest, so we're going to get to know you a little better. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So where did you grow up and how long have you been in la yes so i grew up on long island um i was uh a very strict conservative puerto rican italian household i used to talk like this i used to have a thick long island accent the whole thing and then um i just like i started discovering performing arts i was like 15 16 doing all the church stuff but it really wasn't until like i got like into performing arts high school that I was like, oh, people get paid for this. I could actually make a living. And I saw that as maybe I'll take it out. So like a lot of people love where they're from. And I did to a certain degree, but it was so, I was so repressed.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like I definitely knew that I was gay, but there wasn't, I didn't see anyone. I didn't have visual examples of what that was there were no gay couples on TV or any media that I know so the feelings I had were just kind of like in my head and I knew that if I went to a city like New York City that I would meet other people that maybe could whatever help me understand what I was going through
Starting point is 00:09:18 and so before I even like did anything with anyone that was male I sort of had to come out because I booked rent and I was playing a drag queen in the show. And my aunt and my cousin, sadly, had just passed from HIV two years prior. So in many ways, my mom thought me coming out
Starting point is 00:09:33 was me saying I was walking into the possibility, but for her certainty that I would die of AIDS at that time in 1997. And so it wasn't just coming out, even though I had nothing to, I was like, I didn't even do anything yet. But I had to own this thing. And anyway, we became estranged.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I went off to do Rent. But it really – those 18 to 23, I did the show for five years. It really became – Oh, wow. Yeah, like half a decade. And I would leave and come back. I would do a movie. I would come back.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I would do a plate Lincoln Center. I would come back. And it was sort of like my waiter gig. And I felt like a family because I really had never had that before. I mean, when I was a kid, like, the internet was kind of new. So if you were trying to download porn, Jesus, by the time you got to the guy's nipple, you're like, all right, that's been 40 minutes. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Was it that? Yeah. Yes. You're like so done. You're like, you know what? It's not even worth it. I'll guess what the rest looks like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Kids nowadays are like, what's dial-up? I know. It was not as easy as like it is today. Yeah. No. Oh, wow. Good times. So you were just what, 18 when you started playing Angel?
Starting point is 00:10:34 I was 18. So that's when everyone was like going to college. And that's when I got the show. And I was very naive, to be honest, about like the world and anything outside of Long Island. I didn't have exposure to popular music because I was only allowed to listen to Christian music and stuff. So I had a whole world to learn.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And, um, and everyone that was in the show, they were like at least eight, nine years older than me. So everyone would like for different holidays that they would give me like the essential, like Stevie wonder or like books.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I should just basically life everything I'd missed out on popular culture. Um, and so that kind of became like a sponge and that just like really interested me but after doing the same show for five years you get super bored so I created my own top 40 night it was like me cover band three background singers with the height of Justin and Britney so I was wearing like all this like you know torn like bedazzled clothes singing out like pink songs and Christina and with dancers and that's sort of how I got queer because I was basically doing a nightlife gig in New York with my one off night from rent and the producers wanted someone from nightlife and uh the uh NBC Bravo producers heard about this kid and they came to come see my show and then I had a meeting with
Starting point is 00:11:35 me and I was never to know what this little teeny tiny show on a station that was very small at the time called Bravo that it would amount to no one watched Bravo it had inside the actor's studio that was it I didn't know what Bravo was right had Inside the Actors Studio. That was it. I didn't know what Bravo was. Right. I didn't even know Inside the Actors Studio went back that far. That's how long it was. That's the only thing I think of.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And Project Runway came after Queer Eye. And so it's interesting now that it's going back to Bravo. Yeah. Yeah. I always say that I was like, I'm from Bravo in a time where no one knew what a Vanderpump was. A Vanderpump to me was a thing I would do late before bed thinking of James Vanderbeek.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I mean, that's as far as I thought it went. No one wants to know the Vanderpump-ness of it all. Yeah. So we have that. We have Vegas in common. We're Bravo fam. So how,
Starting point is 00:12:23 okay. You said that the producers came. They saw your show. Yeah. So then I had a meeting, but it was like not a meeting. It was like, I mean, you've probably had those auditions that are not auditions where you're sitting across from someone and you're just talking and you don't realize you're actually auditioning. Does that make sense? That's what I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Did you audition for it? They didn't. They asked me like, you know, where'd you grow up? She said, take me on a romantic date as a divorced dad living on Long Island. And I was like, okay. And I knew the city like the back of my hand. So the butterfly exhibit was happening at the National Museum. I knew restaurants.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I like did the whole verbal date. And she was like, that was great. Butterfly exhibit? Yeah. It's like you go into this whole room and there's butterflies and stuff. You can see them. Yeah, it's great. Is that still a thing?
Starting point is 00:12:59 I did that in D.C. Yeah. A bunch of different museums sometimes have it. It's yours. Hello. Worth going to. If anyone wants to take me on a date and is looking for ideas. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's a good one. So anyway, so she was like, I like you. She goes, how old are you? Now, mind you, this woman was just a producer on the project. And I was like, I'm 23. She goes, you're 26. And I was like, okay. And she was like, where did you go to school?
Starting point is 00:13:18 I was like, well, I just, you know, I got accepted to Wagner College, but I ended up just doing rent. She goes, you graduated from Wagner. I was like, okay. She goes, I need you to tell them that tomorrow because you're a lot younger than the other guys. And I don't want them to discredit you. I was like, okay. So I went in, big panel, like boardroom, NBC, Bravo, the creator and director of the show. Was Andy Cohen there?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yes. Oh. Yes. And what year is this? 2003. Okay. Yeah. And so my job, which was not described to me, was to essentially have a chemistry test with two guys already on this show that hadn't been named yet.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. And it was Carson and Ted, but I never met them before. So you have this brightly dressed blonde guy who's sort of gay Buddy Holly to my left. And their job was to basically kind of mess with me and see if I could hold my own. Right. Yeah. And their job was to basically kind of mess with me and see if I could hold my own, right? To see if under pressure and under some like gentle ribbing that I would be able to be fine.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And so I didn't know that was happening. So I was just like, these guys are so rude. I was like so hurt in my feeling that I was literally like, you know what? I'm not going to book this, but I'm going to be funny and memorable this way. They'll maybe think of me for a sitcom or something. So everything they said to me, they'd be like, um, he's asked me like, where are you from? I was like, Long Island. They're like, uh, they're like, oh, of course. And I was like, why are you scared of things that are long?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Like, it was just like funny little, you know what I mean? So back and forth. And so they just thought that we ended up, I won the boys over and that ultimately they were going to have to pick the cast member. And there was like five of us who auditioned and I left defeated, called my agents. And I was like, don't ever submit me for anything like that again i failed it was horrible and then an hour later he goes guess you didn't do that bad you start monday and my life changed from that moment it's crazy that's crazy so you obviously didn't know any of the guys going into it no i didn't know
Starting point is 00:14:56 the guys didn't even know the structure of the show there was no name for it there was no show on tv to be like it's's like blank. There was no reference. So even my first day of shooting, I was looking directly at the camera. And they're like, don't look at the camera. I was like, oh, sorry. I don't know how to. They didn't know what I was supposed to be doing because I hadn't really seen the show. There was no example.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So yeah, it was interesting. And I'd come from theater. And I'd done some movies. And I'd done All My Children. I played a young dad on that. Stop. You were on All My Children. When I was like, I'm going to find the footage. I was like 20 years old. We were driving to
Starting point is 00:15:28 get home for the holidays with Jonathan Bennett from Mean Girls. Yeah. Aaron Samuel's first day on All My Children was my first day. Did you know he was gay back then? I did. Because he was dating someone from Rent and I knew all the tea and I was like I just assumed everyone knew he was gay. And then
Starting point is 00:15:44 someone was like, no, he's straight. I was like, no, he's not. And then I was like, oh, wait, I can't say anything. And then I came to LA and he was a little, he was Lance Bassey with me. When they were closeted, they wouldn't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Not wouldn't talk to me. They were concerned about guilty by association because I was so out with Queer Eye. The minute that they both came out, I mean, I think Jonathan was never really wildly in. He just wasn't talking about it, whereas Lance was really in.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Because the boy band thing, and he was really fearful what his coming out would mean to the other guys, and if the whole band would dissipate if he came out. He was here a few weeks ago talking about it. That's what they told him. He lived with that fear for so long.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, I was in college in oh three and i honestly i didn't even know what bravo was back then i do remember hearing about that show but i guess i didn't even realize it was on bravo i never watched bravo honestly until i was on it that's i honestly have the same way about a lot of networks and you're like whoopsie what do you guys have on oh cool, cool. Yeah. No, I had never seen any show on it. And then I started obviously watching Real Housewives because of Lisa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And then, I mean, now I'm hooked on a bunch of them. But now you're in it. Is it weird for you to be immersed in the world where can you separate it? Can you watch some things as a fan, even if you know the cast? Yes and no. Like, okay, like today I binged like four episodes of shaw's of sunset because i got so behind on it and i i know all of them got it so watching it i i actually i think i enjoy watching shows more when i do know them because otherwise i just feel like i know them like i also watch kardashians today i don't actually know them got
Starting point is 00:17:22 it but it's like you feel like you know so Although I think it's not wild to imagine that you would know a Kardashian. But – and I've met them all and they're all great. But yeah, so it's like I get when people say like they feel like they know me. And I'm like, but you don't. But I'm like, okay, I understand because the shows that I do watch now – because I was never big on reality TV until I became a part of it. Yeah. But I watch them differently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So it's like I'll be like, oh, really? Did your producer like want you to say that? That's the other piece. That's what I think. part of it yeah but i watch them differently yeah so it's like i'll be like oh really did your producer like want you to say that that's the other piece that's what i think i watch it and i'm like is that a producer is that her right and like our show is not scripted but i have so many friends on so many other reality shows that are like even like on bachelor in paradise or bachelor bachelorette i'm like a producer was in your ear telling you who to give that last rose to weren't they Because this guy is better for TV than this guy.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Exactly. If you just keep him around, you have a storyline, you get more viewers. Exactly. And reality did start in the early 2000s, so we're now,
Starting point is 00:18:13 we're now catching up to the producer brain. So you're, it's hard to outsmart an audience these days for those who are paying attention. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So that little sense you get, you're like, oh, that feels fake. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, it takes a good producer to make it feel natural. If they're going to attention. Right. So that little sense you get, you're like, oh, that feels fake. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, it takes a good producer
Starting point is 00:18:25 to make it feel natural. If they're going to interject. Yeah. Like, especially with Shaws of Sunset, like, if there's something I see on the show, like, I'll just text, like, MJ or Gigi and be like,
Starting point is 00:18:33 okay, so wait, tell me what really happened. And I'm like, please tell me that this was edited. And one of them told me one story, the other one told me another, and I was like, hmm, which to believe.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Right, right, right. Because I was like, did you believe right right right because i was like was did you really just start laughing when she was crying like about her dad it was just like it was a whole thing and i've never done docu and i'm like a part of me really wants to because i'm curious how my real life would play in the care how your edited real life right that's the other piece because how many minutes is the show 42 minutes is an hour I don't even know But like 42, 44 minutes Right
Starting point is 00:19:06 And like so But you have been Shooting for weeks And I'm also one of 15 people on this show Right So the fullness of Like beginning, middle,
Starting point is 00:19:13 End of your story Might not be the way It really happened Yeah Do you clap back Do you feel a need When an episode airs And didn't tell your
Starting point is 00:19:20 Full story Will you let it go What do you do I do So Yeah because I'm wondering As a mama Yeah I used to be very guilty of that like i it would affect my well-being and honestly when i moved to vegas i completely deleted social media for five months like the entire time i was
Starting point is 00:19:36 there i did not have instagram or twitter on my phone once right because the first like two weeks when i was starting the show it was like our show was airing. I did not, like it wasn't even a bad edit. I just didn't look good last year. I mean, you only saw one aspect of my life and that was my relationship. You didn't see any other thing that I did last summer. So it was really frustrating because I kept feeling the need to defend myself and then I'm getting on stage and then on intermission, I'm checking my tweets to see what, and then it was just like,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I was so in my head that I was Like, you know what? This is not healthy for me. I'm not doing this anymore Yeah because I just was getting so defensive my mom called me one day and she was like Sheena put your phone away like you're looking Crazy and I was like F this I am deleting it and I just like and she did I went through that, you know She was going through a very public breakup while doing the show with me and it wasn't even was like on and off again but she was sort of in the public.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And so she had to navigate that while being away from her husband and kids. And it was rough. But I couldn't – as I read them, I was sometimes – like she would post something and tag me in something unrelated, promotional. And what people would say to her, I could not believe. Oh, it's insane. I could not believe. I was like you would never in a million years say this to the person's face. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So why do you have the balls to say this online? It's so rude. It's that same person that will come up to Sheena in public and be like, I'm your biggest fan. Oh, my God. Take a picture. And I've said that to them. Like what part of you is that broken where it makes you feel good to say something that negative about someone you do not know? Because they're brave because they're behind a screen.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It's so ridiculous. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But that was, it was, it was healthy for Sheena to delete. Yeah, but now I've gotten a lot better. Even, I try not to even look at comments, but I'll look for the first few minutes. I'll like a lot. I'll respond if people have a question about
Starting point is 00:21:19 my makeup or something like that because I enjoy, you know, I enjoy engaging with the fans and people who you know love when they get a response from me i'm not i used to spend so much time and i got called out for it a lot it was just like why do you only respond to the haters and it was like the five comments out of the 300 on one photo those five comments were the ones i was responding to because i'm like oh no you're wrong you don't know this like let me tell you about this and then all of the 295 compliments i'm getting, I was just like,
Starting point is 00:21:48 I would like them, but I wasn't responding. Those are the ones that you couldn't even probably even receive because the other ones troubled you so much. Yeah. And so it was like, when I was getting all of these negative comments, I just, I was really only responding to the haters. And a lot of people were like, we're not going to follow you anymore if this is all you're doing. And I was like, you know what? what you're right and this was a conversation I was having with a friend of mine the other day I didn't realize maybe how naive or ignorant or just the way I was until I did watch myself back I did get a lot of negative feedback so it was um this weekend actually i was in phoenix speaking at the women's expo and i was saying how when you like take a step back and you really look at yourself and how other people see
Starting point is 00:22:32 you it was a huge lesson for me to learn because like season four of our show we were dealing with my husband's addiction and i made a lot of ignorant comments because I wasn't educated on addiction. Even though we have family members who have been alcoholics and whatnot, like I've grown up with that but never actually being educated on it or knowing. And so I made a bunch of ignorant comments like, well, just drink to get buzzed, not to get drunk. Like why can't you just have two martinis instead of five? Like do one shot and it was i kept saying stupid thing after stupid thing that i didn't realize as i was saying it that it was dumb until i had 85 of the viewers attacking me i had those 15 loyal fans thank you i love you guys but it was the 85 who really woke me up and i was like i remember sitting on my floor in my bedroom i had this like huge like closet room and i was just like crying and i was like oh my god
Starting point is 00:23:25 they're right and it was like this huge like self-realization where i was just like i actually should read up on addiction like and we were still married at the time like it was we were struggling but also if you don't know something that you haven't had the experience in your personal life it's like you're grasping at straws based on what we know as a society or what that what you've been exposed to so if you didn't know about the specifics of addiction, it's really tricky, especially when you are in it and it's impacting your life and it's someone you love and you're just so frazzled and you're looking for answers and they're not coming.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's easy to say, quote, unquote, the wrong thing. I'm going to put it in quotes because I think if you don't know that it's wrong, it's just your honest feedback in the moment. Totally. I mean, that's the hard thing about, I think being in the public eye, everything you say, there's a level of accountability that people want to check you for. Sometimes they have no place for it, but sometimes you're like, you know what? Good point, sir. You know? Yeah. And it definitely woke me up and made me educate myself more. And I just,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I am actually thankful for that because I think I was kind of going down a rabbit hole of just being like I'm right I'm right I'm right and didn't care what anyone else says I don't care if people don't like me I don't get it but it was like no I do because I don't want to be seen as an uneducated naive ignorant idiot right I get that yeah but so thank you for those who taught me a lesson, but be nice. Okay. Anyways. So let's see. Where do we go next? Oh, wait. What I wanted to ask you.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So I was looking at your bio. Yeah. And I know we've been friends for a while, so I don't know how I didn't know this, but you won an Emmy for hosting? Yeah. That's so cool. So really exciting. Back in 2003, we did the first year at Queer Eye, and because we each creatively produced
Starting point is 00:25:04 our own segments with the producers, when the show won at Standing in 2003, we did the first year at Queer Eye. And because we each creatively produced our own segments with the producers, when the show won Outstanding Reality Series, we each received an Emmy. So it says Outstanding Reality Series, my name, and then host. Wow. And so I have an Emmy at home. Nominated twice, won one. But it's interesting because now all I want is one for scripted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:19 So every guest star that's possibly like, I could maybe do that. It's so many. It's such an interesting dance. When you live here in LA, you see the four-year consideration all everywhere. And it's basically networks or agencies paying for this advertisement to influence voters who mostly live in LA to vote for them. And there's like a dance that we had to go to. We had to be on the cover of every magazine. We had to be on Ellen this much time ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:25:44 go to we had to be on the cover of every magazine we had to be on Ellen this much time ahead of him like it was all programmed out to like like you'll see people go and they do the campaigning yeah for it it's a really oddly crucial part of it um so that's interesting but but yeah I mean like by the time I was 25 I was already like a Broadway star a TV star at an Emmy and I was a New York Times bestseller by the time I was 25 and so I had already checked everything off and I was like now what I want to do really like I didn't really know who I was 25. And so I had already checked everything off. And I was like, now what do I want to do? Really? Like, I didn't really know who I was because I'd always shown up to work. They gave me a costume and told me what to say. Queer Eye, similarly, gave me a costume, told
Starting point is 00:26:12 me who to be on Queer Eye. The culture vulture. Yeah. And then the minute the show was over. But I was supposed to be like the Puerto Rican Emily Post. They're supposed to know about etiquette, about everything and every facet of life. At 23, life hadn't afforded me that yet. So I was really just like doing all the research all the time, super in my head, super critical that anything I said would have been taken out of context, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:31 And so it was nice when the show was over in 2006, I moved to LA to do a singing show on Fox. It was like Dancing with the Stars, but singing. American Idol band, three celebrity judges, and me, and every week I'd get a new superstar. So I got like Patti LaBelle, Taylor Day, like all these cool people. Great. Except honestly, I had no idea who I was. So when I met with Wardrobe, they were like trying – I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Like I couldn't figure out or articulate who I was as an artist because I realized the eight years of my professional career leading up to that, I had always been sort of been told who to be. And for the first time, someone was saying, well, who are you? We want to play to that. And I was like, I don't really know. Like, it was interesting. And then that honestly started like a whole evolution of like, I think separating myself
Starting point is 00:27:13 and my family and my friends coming out here really forced me to define who I was outside of my job. Yeah. That's so cool. You're going to get an Emmy for scripted. I can feel it. Some point in my life. I'll maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:25 We'll see. And just a side note, speaking of voting, you guys still have a couple days to vote for Vanderpump Rules for Reality Show 2018 for the People's Choice Awards. Yeah. Just go on my Twitter. Click the link. You can vote like 20 times. 25.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Is it 25? It's 25. Yeah. Well, just a couple days left, you guys. So do it. I'll do it when I get home. Anyway, Jay. Yes. I wanted to ask you something get home. Anyway, Jay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I wanted to ask you something. Yes, ma'am. Are you single or are you in a relationship? I'm in a relationship. Okay. I haven't met him yet, right? You haven't. I've just seen photos.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yes. You've just seen photos. Very good looking. Yeah, handsome. Are you by chance looking to maybe spice things up in the bedroom? Yeah, always. Maybe an adventurous new toy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Adult movie? Wait a minute. Yeah, yeah. Keep going. Where are we going? Okay, let me tell you. Are we going somewhere? What's happening? Oh Maybe an adventurous new toy. Yeah. Adult movie. Wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep going. Where are we going? Okay, let me tell you. Are we going somewhere? What's happening?
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Starting point is 00:29:10 guys. My best friend Adam was like making a joke the other day because someone had asked his name and they're like, oh, Adam. And he goes,
Starting point is 00:29:15 yeah, you know, like the first guy to get laid. And she like joked, like wasn't getting the Adam and Eve reference and was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And he was like, what you don't get? And she's like, well, like because your name's Adam, like girls want to like bang you. Like what? And he's like, no, like I was like oh okay and he was like what you don't get and she's like what like because your name's adam like girls want to like bang you like what and he's like no like i was like like adam and eve like the first never mind that's good he won't have a joke again no maybe maybe him and i should be adam and eve for halloween that's a cute idea oh especially because your
Starting point is 00:29:40 hair is long well depending which hair you have in sometimes sheena's hair is long. Well, depending which hair you have in. Sometimes Sheena's hair is long enough to cover her boobs. I'm leaving it long until after Halloween. Okay. Copy that. I think you just figured out your costume. And then I'm chopping it. I know he wants to do some super, I don't know, something weird. But for one of them, we're not a couple.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So, I mean, we're not doing like couples costumes. Not a couple at all? This is about you, Jay. Copy. Okay. Got it. I got a little wink there got it anyway i did not wink there was no winking a winking from the inside no winking just because
Starting point is 00:30:11 we're going to iceland doesn't mean anything oh see that's where stuff happens anyway all right so you were the youngest person in the cast of rent do you ever play like a leading role right yeah i was like cast at 18 they never asked anybody back to you no i love it it was great i mean it was a little weird because i remember one time we were doing press and hollow notes was on the same talk show and i had no idea who they were so all i saw was the cast lining up to take a picture like last minute someone's raising a camera i'm like wait wait so i run in i sit in with the cast and i turn around and these two older guys and i'm'm like, who are you?
Starting point is 00:30:45 You're not in Rent. And literally every like one of the rock star characters in my show was like, no, Jay, music icons, no. Yeah, I was a baby. And it was crazy because at that time it was people were still sleeping in the streets to get ticket. It was the hottest show on Broadway. It won the Peeled Surprise.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And every Tony in the role I played, that guy had won the Tony for it. And so it was interesting. But even more interesting was I was playing a drag queen and never met a drag queen, never even seen anything that had drag content in it. And I remember in the first days of rehearsal, the director was like, you keep acting like a girl. It's a drag queen. He knows he's male. He just adorns us to be fabulous and entertain. So he sent me home with two
Starting point is 00:31:25 wong fu um paris is burning a bunch of other movies to kind of have an idea of what drag was and how it was different than a boy you know who was like you know it was just really interesting i learned a lot those those five years in rent yeah that was the baby that was the baby in queer i was like a decade younger than everybody on Queer Eye. That's so cool. Do you like doing one more? Because I mean you do theater, you do on camera, you do music, you do radio. You do it all, literally. Do you dance too? I wish. No, there was
Starting point is 00:31:54 a window where I could have. I could fake it. I would do well on Dance to the Stars. No, I What was the question? Do you have like one that you prefer? Yeah, I say sitcom because it checks a lot of boxes. You'd be great on sitcom too. Sheena's got great comedic timing, which made her a star in Sex Tips because the show is written like a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:32:12 So it's like line, line, laugh. Line, line, laugh. That's a sitcom. So for me, that would be the happiest medium because you get a new script every week, right? A character you know and you can develop, but then it's televised. So like you said, you don't really know how people respond to your show. You have to wait months for what you shoot to hit the airways to then eventually get back to you. In theater, you get it almost instantaneously.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Or you don't get it at all. Then you just leave in a really shitty mood. Right. You're like, man, that bomb. I think there were three shows I can remember like that where they just didn't laugh. I know I was there for one of them. I've had those two. And that's Vegas.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Hit or miss. Yeah. I cried. I was like, was I not funny? Oh my gosh. No. Sometimes we would say things and we're like, that's a funny joke. Everyone for the last 50 nights has laughed at that joke.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Why is this room not laughing? It's so weird. You can't even predict what an audience is going to take to. So what Chester and I started doing on those, like, I mean, there are very few nights, but on those nights that people weren't laughing, we would just make each other laugh. And whether that was changing the line or him when, like, the three girls are up on stage, he ended up doing a floor routine. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Like, literally was spinning on the floor, legs and split. Chester Lockhart. I'm sure you guys know. We should start with Kendra and sex tips. He is, I think, untapped talent. Like, he is going to be a huge star. Oh, yeah. I love him.
Starting point is 00:33:35 He's just so talented. There's nothing he can't do. He does it all. And he's better at makeup than I am. Like, literally, his contour is so on point. Really? Let's see where do we want to go next are you excited that queer eye came back yeah that's so such a mixed bag because i found out two years ago december i was in puerto vallarta doing my cabaret act i'm a lot like celine dion i go out of the country to test my material first.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Then I ran to the States. I like that. Yeah. And so I was in Puerto Vallarta at this place called the Red Room Cabaret and I got a call and I was like, hey, it's the producers of Queer Eye and they're on speakerphone. And I was like, uh? So I was like, maybe this is like, I don't know what kind of news this is, but it's probably something good for me.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So I step out of rehearsal and I'm like, hey, I'm'm like we just want to let you know we're bringing queer eye back and i was like oh my god it's amazing and he's like with an exciting new dynamic cast and i was like oh that you're not a part of right because at first i heard i'm coming back to it and i was like oh and he's like but we definitely can't do the show without you guys being a part of it in some way and we'd love for you to you know do an episode we'll just figure it out later online but just want to let you know because it's gonna be released tomorrow i was like oh okay wow right so then i didn't know right so i was like a little wigged out by it because i i definitely was like well in the age and the era of reboots it was the beginning of it i was like i want to be back on the show that i
Starting point is 00:35:00 was that i that i'm known for so i talked to my team and they're like, are you kidding? You spent 11 years trying to get people to see you as something other than just the queer I kid that your talent would speak for itself. We're at a place now where we're getting people to, people call for you to come in. I don't have to beg to get you in any door as an actor, even a straight actor. Like I have a film coming out November 6th where I'm, it's just, I played the lead in a straight action movie. That's not something that moving here 2006, any agent would have told me was possible. Intensive care.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah. Yeah. It's a really great film. And I'll let you use a premiere, by the way. Ooh, yes. It's just an LA screening. I say premiere like it's fancy. That is fancy.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You're in a movie. Yeah. It was fun. And you know what? It actually was written and directed and produced by three straight guys who I'd worked with before. Never in a million years, they wrote this role for me and then said, we'd be honored if you played it. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:35:49 And like, it's about the work. We don't care who you choose to love. It's about the work. And I bawled. I boohooed like a baby. But I thought about that when Queer Eye came back because my life has changed so much. And as much as I love Queer Eye, if I put that in like senior year. It was 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It was a great moment. But I don't necessarily know that I would want to do that again. It's not where my heart and my passion is. And so I let that go. A year goes by. Now we're getting close to when they're going to premiere. In fact, yesterday, exactly a year ago, we sat down with the new cast and our cast and had like a lunch and they filmed it. And it was for People Magazine.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And it was the first time we got to meet them. They wouldn't let us know their names, who they were. And we met them all on camera for the first time. Oh, wow. So that was really sweet. And they were so kind and they were so gracious. And they – to me, Queer was always a fraternity of brothers, right? It's like I would say we were never best friends.
Starting point is 00:36:38 We were always family, always. And that's where we stay to this day. And all of a sudden it was five other guys who were just kind, smart, driven and motivated who were willing to do this job that none of us really wanted to go back to exactly doing but they were willing to take the essence of it and make it their own and honestly they really did I like it, I can remove myself
Starting point is 00:36:56 and watch it now as a fan, it doesn't feel like mine, doesn't feel like what I did and I can separate, you know now I understand what audiences felt by watching Queer Eye when I was on it. And I love the guys. And we're actually doing something on TV that I can't talk about. But it's their cast and our cast are doing something fun on network TV coming up very soon.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Nice. Cool. Yeah. Okay. So I want to go back to Intensive Care. Yes. So, okay. You would have been great in this movie.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Thanks. I'll introduce you to the guys thanks good to know now no they love to write for talent they're great um well i'm i'm back i'm here so intensive cure is a movie by this kid named danny and he was a little bit of a screw-up right he um he was uh he's basically like a bastard kid his mom died and his dad was super rich but you know he kind of squandered his life and was never given his inheritance his grandmother who's now left with the inheritance is on her deathbed and has her only living relative i'm due to get all the money so you know i'm driving her house to get
Starting point is 00:37:56 the money she's in her deathbed i greet the nurse who's taking care of her intensive care at the house and she brings me to my grandmother and my grandmother informs me that I'm not ever going to see a dime of that money. Ruins my whole plan. So in the process, I'm bummed out, whatever. I go to a local bar, have some drinks and two guys I screwed over in high school are like, what are you doing here, buddy? And they try to rough me up a little bit and then they're like, wait a minute, you said you never come back unless you came back for that inheritance.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Tell us about your granny. And they basically try to get me to like steal my grandmother's money with their help but we don't know is the intensive care nurse you've been great in the she never was actually special ops for uh she was like navy seal oh hell yeah so she basically is in it for the money too and she gives us a oh my god it's like girl power to the max like she whoops some severe but she's one of the number one uh she whoops them severe. But she's one of the number one. Tara Mackin is her name. She's one of the number one stunt women in L.A.
Starting point is 00:38:48 This is her first big lead in a movie. But she's doubled for everybody. It's real, real good and very girl power. And we have some sexy time in the movie. And that will be streaming on all digital platforms. November 6th. Check it out. I'll be at the premiere.
Starting point is 00:39:04 No big deal. It was literally like over. That's the premiere no big deal it was literally like over that's the crazy thing is that it was overseas it was like in all these different countries and you're seeing like
Starting point is 00:39:10 pictures of the red carpet like I couldn't go because I was working but like just to see something you've done be received by different audiences yeah
Starting point is 00:39:16 or people in the cinema screen grabbing it because they didn't know you were in it and your fans from Sweden are like oh my god oh my god
Starting point is 00:39:23 what is happening right now? Yeah. Oh, God. That's like every time the Hills old episodes come on. Stuff like that. Exactly. That's funny. Or the Jonas's.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Oh, all the time. They're like, oh, my God. I'm so shook. Sheena is the Jonas pizza girl. Yeah. Maria, the pizza girl. So funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I know 2 and 0. I've seen that on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Because people will like binge that. And then they're like, I had no idea you were in this. And I'm like, yeah, when the show started out, I was the actress pop star. But then it just got kind of flooded with my failing marriage and ignorance on addiction. Then I got divorced.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And anyway. So, okay. And also, you are rejoining the cast of the Netflix series Eastsiders, I saw. Yeah. So, Eastsiders was originally just talk about if you want to do something, just do it. And don't wait for someone to do it for you. But a group of guys led by Kit Williamson and his partner, basically they were like, look, we're all actors, writers, we're producers, we're directors. Let's just make a story about a group of friends living on the east side of L.A.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So they got Willem. They got a kid who had been on Mad Men and just wrote this really great web series. Did really well on the web. Fine. They put it on YouTube. Excellent ratings. Like, let's do a season two. They got a kid who had been on Mad Men and just wrote this really great web series. Did really well on the web. Fine. They put it on YouTube. Excellent ratings. They're like, let's do a season two. They do a season two.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Cute. Whatever, whatever. That's the season I did with them. And then they do season three, but they flesh the episodes out to be longer than 15 minutes. They're like 30-minute episodes. Netflix was like, hey, put them on Netflix. It's fine. We'll put them on.
Starting point is 00:40:40 We'll pump it out for you. It got nominated for six daytime Emmys this year. That's amazing. Yeah. So now they're in full partnership with Netflix. They're doing a Kickstarter campaign to make, which they always did. They always crowdfunded it. But with partnership now with Netflix, so it's bigger and better.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And so we start shooting in November. Yeah. So it's going to be really exciting. That's cool. November is going to be big for you. It's a big month. Yeah. And then also just the radio show.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So that's kind of Yeah All I'm doing I was saving the best for last Yeah yeah yeah No but the East Siders is great And you can watch it now on
Starting point is 00:41:11 It's Actually got Constance Wu From Crazy Rich Asians She's one of the leads on it Oh okay So it's not all gay It's It's just about a group of friends
Starting point is 00:41:19 In The east side of LA And just kind of Just group of artists Just kind of making love and life Work in the face of the things that suck in life and trying to push through. Yeah. You literally do it all. I am like
Starting point is 00:41:30 a typical Puerto Rican with like 16 jobs. Yeah. No, but like I mean, you act, you sing. One thing that I still haven't been to is one of your one-man shows. I know. And honestly, I want you to come because I hope watching mine, you'll do one. Here's
Starting point is 00:41:46 why. Here's why. You pick a playlist of songs that you like, right? Just a couple. And then you tell stories about your life. But because it's music, it allows you to tell the funny, the naughty, the heartbreaking, and then sing about it. And it's quick. It's just over an hour.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Anyone can do it. But I feel like I have been doing it so long that people see my show and they're like, I can do it but i feel like i have been doing it so long that like people see my show and they're like i could do i'm like yeah you can like don't get so whatever but my one man shows how long are they i do like an uh hour and 10 hour and five but at this year it's called straight out of queer eye with the compton yeah yeah so i'll be doing it in puerto vallarta for uh for the christmas holiday season and then i'll do la san diego palm springs san francisco all that miami okay i have to make it to this song because for the Christmas holiday season and then I'll do LA, San Diego, Palm Springs, San Francisco, all that, Miami.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Okay, I have to make it to this one. Because I remember your last one, it was like there were like three things going on at the same day, the same time. I think one of them might even, Chester might have had something at the same time. It was like, it was busy. You could also do stand-up really well
Starting point is 00:42:42 with all the fodder in your life. Everything that's happened, if you just sat with someone to filter, you'd be like, I'm going to talk to you, and then they took notes, they would just tell you what you just said in joke form. You have done. Yeah, I've done some stand-up. I've done improv, sketch comedy. I feel like I'm very good at
Starting point is 00:42:58 delivery, which is why I was great in Vegas. Very good. That if I had someone write my jokes for me, I could be really good at delivering them. Here's the other thing, too, that the idea to lean into is that some one-woman, one-man shows are soft-scripted where it is based on Sheena. And it's Sheena, like, there's moments you could be your mom. There's moments you could be Andy Cohen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 You know, and just telling the narrative of what it felt like for the audience, for you, for the audience to feel that based on you being someone else because you're so good at that. Yeah. That actually would be fun. It would be fun. See, with stuff like stuff like i mean i am great at memorizing i mean i did the show in vegas but um teleprompters are something that i really like too with like hosting i just discovered that really i was in miami hosting miami task force gala thing this weekend and they had me open with the greatest show which is the the opening number in the greatest showman yeah i couldn't memorize it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I tried. I tried. I get there. Justin Bieber had the teleprompter at his concerts. I've seen that. There was four. There was four teleprompters on the floor, plus the two kind of presidential kind. And they're like, yeah, you can just use yours.
Starting point is 00:43:55 We have all your songs on there. I was like, what? I was so shocked. It was the best. I was so at ease. I didn't have to worry about the lyrics. Totally. I just referenced it.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I was like, okay, I know what's coming next. Yeah, you've always been good at memorizing. From the time you were a little girl, you would memorize poems. But I do like reading off a teleprompter because that's also where my hosting background comes in. That was the thing we were talking about. Did you see Corinne on Who is America? Yes. Homegirl was reading a teleprompter.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I know it. You're like, what's happening? You're reading these words. teleprompter. I know it. You're like, what's happening? You're reading these words. But, um, so speaking of those, you obviously have to have good vision in order to read a screen far away. I know, you know me, I like my glasses. I'm just leaning into the contacts for the first time, but I do generally walk around with glasses. So you don't have LASIK? I don't because I actually haven't ever discovered like where to go, like what's a good person. And you know, our eyes are such like delicate things that you want to make sure if you get a referral
Starting point is 00:44:49 that it's going to be the right person. Right. Well, I do know a person. So I have sex toys and my eyes are going to be able to clear? Yes. That's amazing. Oh my God. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:56 He's in Beverly Hills. He's right around the corner from here. I love it. But since you don't have LASIK yet, neither do I. Yeah. You just started doing contacts. Yeah. I'm going to tell you something.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah, do. So Will, my producer, he uses do I you just started doing contacts yeah I'm gonna tell you something yeah do so Will my producer yeah he uses this I just started have you heard of simple contacts no okay I mean you know how annoying it is to have to get your prescription you always forget you always forget and I feel like every time I'm running out of contacts it's like right before I'm going out of town oh like this week my eyes are probably gonna be green or gray while I'm going out of town. Always. Like this week, my eyes are probably going to be green or gray while I'm in Iceland because I've ran out of my contacts. I do that with my blue ones. Thanks to simple contacts,
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Starting point is 00:47:27 So years ago, I want to say four years ago, maybe even longer. I don't know if my mom knows this. You told me. Yeah, I told Sheena about this. So years ago, I get a message from my manager and he says, hey, I was talking to this guy in New York. He has this play and he's thinking about opening it in Vegas and they want to offer you the role and you would be starring
Starting point is 00:47:46 opposite Camille Grammer. She was going to play Robin. She would sign on I had my contract in hand we were mid negotiations when she pulled out. So she pulls out two years go by they approach me again
Starting point is 00:48:01 they approach me again like last it was like I guess this will be two years February and they asked if I'd do it. Now I me again, like, last – it was like, I guess this will be two years, February. And they asked if I'd do it. Now, I'd already been screwed around with, so I was like, they're not going to do it, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, well, they are doing it, but they're not doing it in the big theater anymore. We're supposed to be in the big theater at the Paris. Wow. Would you have died?
Starting point is 00:48:18 Oh, my God. Like, that show in the big theater would not work. No way. Anyway, so they say, do you want to do it? I was like, yeah, sure, sure. That sounds cool. Who's doing it, though? And they're like, Kendra Wilkinson. I was like. No way. Anyway, so they say, do you want to do it? I was like, yeah, sure, sure. That sounds cool. Who's doing it though? And they're like, Kendra Wilkinson. I was like, no way. So I DM her. Did you know Kendra
Starting point is 00:48:32 at the time? Yes. Well, not well, but she'd been a guest on a show I'd hosted. Gotcha. For Animal Planet or something. And so she was a guest judge or whatever. And she came on to the show and she was already filming that she was going to be doing it so i dm'd her and i was like hey i was like uh are you really doing this and she was like yes
Starting point is 00:48:49 and i was like all right i'm in we met at the first photo shoot instantly i was like okay i have like a kid sister like i love her i'm totally down but when you go to vegas no one i mean kendra's different she's got kids she's married I went as a single person and it was really lonely and isolating. Like, I felt really by myself. And I wasn't where we were. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:10 But they put me in this really, like, I remember you telling us. Crunchy hotel. Before I moved into a nice place. And it was such an interesting balance
Starting point is 00:49:19 of being super famous for 90 minutes in a theater and having a picture on billboards and cabs. And then literally going home to a quiet apartment by yourself it was really weird because people who perform on the strip a lot of them live off the strip and they're like come party 30 minutes away and I was like oh god that uber is gonna be a lot that cuz I'm like if I'm leaving I'm drinking right and but you
Starting point is 00:49:39 know I inevitably made friends and honestly it was one of the most rewarding things that you could really do because something about doing stage man it really fills your it fills your soul because you get that interaction with different people after. And when you look out, it doesn't matter the color of someone's skin or their age, whatever. They're all laughing together. Like sex is the one unifier. You could like make so many jokes about it. And it was really awe-inspiring to kind of see all these people who felt different walks of life, different political views, just
Starting point is 00:50:05 crying from laughter. Yeah. Sweet, sweet. Oh, you were there the night. We had a 92 year old woman giving a handjob on stage. Oh my gosh. That was the best. Her name was Dodie. Not Dodie. She lived locally. Arcadia. Yeah. We had a woman wearing a kind of tie-dye wolf t-shirt with
Starting point is 00:50:22 some embellishments and some crystals on it. It was low-cut. She'd cut herself into a v-neck. And when I announced her as the winner, because she had won the handjob contest,
Starting point is 00:50:31 she took her top down. Gave a gentle little shake, put her top back up, and she was probably in her probably late 60s, early 70s. I think it was the older women that did the best.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Oh, the young, like pretty, cute girl. They never did. They were like so shy. And no, the women with the best. Oh, the young, like, pretty, cute girls were, like, so shy. And, no, the women with the experience knew what's up. They really did. Definitely. That was fun. Good times.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yes. You had all the good times when I left. I know. All I do is see pictures of, like, all the things. I was like, that looks like fun. That day you moved out, we were so sad. We saw your car there. We went to the store.
Starting point is 00:51:03 We came back, and we're like, he's gone. He's gone gone i know i honestly i was i should have just stayed the extra couple weeks but um but i felt like it was unfair to chester because they were they basically said well we want to use your picture and sheen his picture i was like for chester's run no you can't do that that's not i'm not gonna do that right um and i i just yeah the picture they have up right now are two random people weren't even in the show right. Right. And they're everywhere. And they're everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, they're not using Katie's. But it's like. It's sad. Would you go back and do the show again?
Starting point is 00:51:31 I would if you were like, I have three weeks and I'll do it for three weeks if Jay does it. But there's no way I would do it any other way. See, yeah. I said I would only do it again if it was you or Chester. Yeah, I said the same. I would not even consider it with someone else. Matt said, I told everyone. The reason why, it's not that we're being like bougie or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:45 It's an intimate, it's a funny piece, but it's intimate. You said, I told everyone. The reason why, it's not that we're being like bougie or whatever. It's an intimate, it's a funny piece, but it's intimate. You're in this tiny theater. You have to like the person you're with. And it's six nights a week. Yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:52 It's insane. It's eight shows a week. Yeah. And you really honestly just, the experience would have been much more fun. We had a couple nights where, well, I hung out with you too,
Starting point is 00:51:59 with Mama. And we just hung out and just like talked. One time it was like five in the morning with your friend that was visiting. It was such a good time
Starting point is 00:52:06 oh wait yeah that friend I know who you're talking about I know he was nice yeah he was very very handsome and I'm sure
Starting point is 00:52:13 if I remembered his name you the listener would know who he is I forgot his name don't please don't no I won't say it don't say it
Starting point is 00:52:19 but he was really really nice and it was something this deep conversation yes that was him yep yep yep yep yep yeah it was fun alright so we're gonna rapid fire some questions and then I wanna talk and do something this deep conversation. Yes, that was him. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 It was fun. So we're going to rapid fire some questions and then I want to talk about your radio show. You got it. Favorite role you've played? God, that's hard.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Rapid fire, Jay. Yes, rapid fire. I'm going to say Joffrey Malibu Country because I was playing opposite Reba and Lily Tomlin and the role was written urban hip hop like thug
Starting point is 00:52:43 and I was like, I'm not going to get it. So I made him ghetto fabulous from New York city. And he was like, talking like this mommy and talk playing that character opposite Reba and Lily was just like, it was the best. Honestly, it was the best. Just totally opposite. It was great.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Favorite person you've worked with. Um, I'm going to say favorite person I work with would, Oh God, I feel like I'm naming the same people repeatedly. Uh, Daisy Fuentes, Daisy Fuentes. I tv series with daisy fuentes on style network it was basically like e-news but all fashion related and she called me her brother from another mother and took me under her wing for a number of years and really gave me so many opportunities she let me host something for her fashion line like a digital thing she's the kindest heart she's vegan she's like just really really really sweet and kind oddly Oddly, the show I moved to LA for,
Starting point is 00:53:26 her husband, Richard Marks, was on and then literally years later, they meet and get married. And I was like, I need both! Yeah, it was great. But at Daisy Point, that's probably the best, nicest, kindest person I work with. What is she up to these days? I haven't heard her name in a while. She is just doing her fashion line and just living the life of being Mrs. Richard Marks. They're newlyweds.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Oh, yeah. Dream person to work with? Lin-Manuel Miranda. Growing up, I'm Puerto Rican from New York City. He wrote Hamilton. He wrote In the Heights. I played his role in In the Heights. I feel very like he's given an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:53:58 People ask me, would you go back to Broadway? And this isn't pushy, but I have a really nice life here. I have comfortable existence. I like my closet space. I like being able to drive myself places. If I'm going to give that all up to New York to do a play, I want to have a good role. And to be honest, being beige, it's really tricky. It's either black or white for a lead. And so Lin-Manuel Miranda came up. It's like, now I could do things other than West Side Story. He kind of paved the way for colorblind casting. And I just love him. I think he's really a super talent. And yeah, so Lin-Manuel.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Nice. Dream role? colorblind casting and just I just love him I think he's really a super talent and yeah so Lin-Manuel nice dream role Hamilton in in Hamilton yeah and if you could only win one award what would it be out of any award Oscar Emmy AMA Tony Tony VMA uh I went to the Presidential Medal of Freedom, like the one that you get for doing a lot of philanthropy and making a difference in people's lives. Aww. Yeah, I think that's the one I would go with. Only because my life is 50-50. Over an Emmy?
Starting point is 00:54:54 I have one already. Oh, yeah. I would have sisters. Over a scripted Emmy? Yeah. I mean, I would like an Emmy. I feel like it's just such a number. I like your answer.
Starting point is 00:55:01 But you know this, too, because I know you do a lot of charity stuff, too. It's like when you're given this platform, it can break your heart sometimes when you realize how so many other people are hurting and they need your help and they need your voice. So it's not lost on me that like we live in a city. We have this privileged existence. And with that, a part of you just wants to give back and help others. It's just part of it. And so that's what my life has been based on. it's just part of it and um and so that's
Starting point is 00:55:25 what my life has been based on it's like i work some and then i do that some and you know and the balance you know you invited many to many a charity thing you've invited me to so i know you get me on that level totally all right marry bang or kill lisa vanderpump camille grammar brandy glanville go uh i think you have to marry lisa right that seems like a really good life yeah what are the other two camille and brandy i have to kill camille because she she screwed up the sex test and then i'm bang brandy i guess yeah sorry guys yeah i like that okay most importantly tell me about the morning beat yes so out now Out Now Radio is a brand new LGBTQ FM on actual FM syndicated
Starting point is 00:56:08 throughout the U.S. radio station that is launching this Thursday on National Coming Out Day. And here's why this is important. It's a radio show. My radio show is from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. every single day,
Starting point is 00:56:17 Monday through Friday. It's featuring myself and a girl named Michaela Gordon. You know Michaela. Oh my God. Let's be Michaela. Okay. I do remember
Starting point is 00:56:25 hearing about this now it's all coming together Chester's best friend is a screener Michaela Gordon she's a lesbian from American Idol blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:56:31 gorgeous glamazon girl but she's been in a relationship for four years it's her and I it's a fun morning show typical morning talk pop culture news fun
Starting point is 00:56:38 games of callers you name that whatever four hours long but the whole station is basically highlighting things that we don't get coverage in in major
Starting point is 00:56:45 media. Certainly, we keep it light and fun and there's music and stuff and all that, everything you'd want. But then there are things specifically medically that oddly I didn't know. Lesbians have a higher chance of not getting checked for cervical cancer. Why? We don't know. Latin and black men are on the rise for HIV infection rates when everyone else is on
Starting point is 00:57:05 the descent. There are things that are not talked about on like regular news that we want to bring to the forefront. So just those issues also like India decriminalizing homosexuality like last week, huge deal, these different little things that don't, that we just want to know about. Also we have woke Wednesdays. We bring in someone from a political commentator from equalityquality California to talk about the things and the people we should be voting for as it impacts the LGBTQ community. Because to be honest, I wasn't even political until like Barack. And then all of a sudden I was like, well, I did like Trump did queer. Like, it's not going to be that bad. Like, he's a nice guy. But then the policy, that's what I thought two years ago. I was like it can't be – it won't get as bad as it was during Bush only because I remember Bush was like anti-same-sex marriage, marriage equality. So that was my only thing on my radar. But when you start looking at the legislation, the LGBTQ page has taken off the White House homepage.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's just sneaking a little too close to Handmaid's Tale for me. And I want to be part of staying woke and understanding when I'm voting for someone what they're voting for. I don't, I didn't know that before. And I just want to make sure I'm a man of a certain age. I've been doing this 21 years since I did rent. I feel as an LGBTQ activist, it is my job to report on these things. And now I'm in a place where I have the platform.
Starting point is 00:58:22 So Out Now Radio, brand new FM station. We even have Loveline, the official Loveline. love line with dr chris donahue is on seven to nine every day that's so dope oddly my ex-boyfriend by the way um that's how i got that yeah dated for three years but then we've got like you know midday political commentary shows we've got shira lazar and ryan mitchell pop culture east style access hollywood kind of show in the afternoon and then of course amazing great music great music, great guests. And we launch National Coming Out Day. Actually, we're going to be streaming live all day long from Abbey, Thursday, 6 a.m. to 9 p.m.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And the party is on 5 to 9. I will send you a VIP invite. Wait, this week? I know you're out of town. I'm in Iceland. She's got things to do. Yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Got to go get some Northern Lights. It is. It airs here, 97.1 HD2. You go to 97.1, that's the amp, and then you wait for your HD light to click, and it clicks, and you sneak up, and that's 97.1 too. That's us. We're on the HD channel under them, so we're under the intercom umbrella, which is the way, K-Rock, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And if you don't have HD radio, you can download a free app called radio.com, put in Out Now, save us. That is the station. Listen to it wherever you go, hiking, wherever in the world, radio.com. Put in Out Now. Save us. That is the station. Listen to it wherever you go. Hiking, wherever in the world. Radio.com. Out Now Radio. That's us.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's so cool. I'm going to program it in my car. Seriously. It's really fun. Actually, being that you know me, like, yeah, text me and I'll give you a shout out on there. That's awesome. But you'll laugh because it's us. You would like the show because you know me and Mikayla.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's fun. Definitely. It's light. It's cute. Well, thanks for being here. Finally. Thank you for having me. I know. I'm saying? Yeah, it's fun. Definitely. It's light. It's cute. Well, thanks for being here. Finally.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Thank you for having me. I know. I'm so proud of you. This is so great. Seriously. Thank you. It's amazing. I'm loving you embracing living your life to the fullest.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I am. I'm doing me. You were talking about it was the first time you've been single in some time. Yeah. And what that felt like. I was even thinking about it today as I was just staring at boats in the ocean. And I was like, you know what? I was even thinking about it today as I was just staring at boats in the ocean. And I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:00:04 Honestly, this is the last time in my life that I really have to do me because the next relationship I get in will be forever. When I have a kid, my life will be about them if not when. But, you know, this is like the last time I really have to myself to enjoy my nights at home alone and to just do me. But I think you, you proved a lot of people wrong when you took sex tips and you slayed it so hard. And I hope that a bigger part of that is like, you can do anything.
Starting point is 01:00:34 You really can. And I'm so proud of you. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. All right, you guys check out intensive care, which will be streaming on all major digital platforms,
Starting point is 01:00:42 November 6th. And be sure to check out Jay on the Morning Beat Monday through Friday on OutNow Radio 97.1 HD2 or radio.com. Thanks. Thank you, Shayna. This was so fun. And also, you guys, if you like my show, you are going to love Life Reboot on Podcast One. Time to live your best life, as I've been doing. time to live your best life as I've been doing and host Leah
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