Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Single in LA

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

Fellow SUR singles Jesse Montana and Eric James go head to head in a round of “Never Have I Ever”, the difference of dating in LA versus your hometown, dealing with exes, how not to catch feelings, how your career affects your dating decisions, and keeping your independence while dating. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up? So, here we are at Shenanigans again. Today's episode is going to be a little different. I didn't want to be doing so many interviews. I thought maybe moving on to more topics and stuff would be interesting. So if there are any topics that you guys can think of that you want to hear me and my guests discuss, tweet me, DM me, Snapchat me, whatever.

Today, I figured for doing a topics episode, it would be best, since I'm single and I'm in L.A., to do a singles in L.A. episode. So I've brought two of the best looking single guys I know. One likes girls, one likes guys. And we all work together at Sir. They have dope voices. I was like, these voices need to be on my podcast. And they're not bad to look at.

So ladies and gentlemen, we have Mr. Jesse Montana. Hello, darling. And Eric, who's considering changing his name from Eric Lutz because everyone says Lutz to Eric James. Lutz. We're just going to call you E, Eric. Call me E. That's fun to me for a little bit. I was like, you said Eric James.

I don't even know, man. I know, right? Yeah, we were just having this discussion. Should he change his name professionally? Lutz. Because, well, it's Lutz, but everyone says Lutz. And then it's like then it's like Oh Kellen lots and they're like, oh, are you guys related? So Yeah

Yeah, when I said that out loud right now, I was like wait, this is kind of dope Sexual jump put a stamp on it before anyone else gets it, you know? Yeah. Okay. All right. Are you already sag? Like, do you have to, like... Uh-uh.

Oh, okay. I've just been hitting them national commercials with nothing. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Well, because I don't know how that works, like, with, like, changing your name once you're... You have no idea. I've got a meeting tomorrow with the old agent.

Well, good luck. Alright, so here at Shenanigans, we start with that exactly, getting into some with the game. So it's going to be the game of Never Have I Ever. I want each of you to put five fingers up.

We're going to see who gets knocked out first. Shout out to old drinking games. Here we go, here we go. We're going to get drinks after this. first. Shout out to old drinking games. Here we go. Here we go. We're going to get drinks after this. For this, I figured we'll... Because I was going to... Okay.

We're going to do this. All right. So, never have I ever used a banana while having sex. No, I'm joking. Yeah. Like, yeah. Okay. We're good.

We're good. Never have I ever gotten someone so drunk so I could have sex with them. Yeah. Like, yeah. Okay, we're good, G. We're good, G. Never have I ever gotten someone so drunk so I could have sex with them. I've been on the receiving end of that, though, for sure. Probably same. For sure. Probably very much so same. Yeah.

Wait, are you playing? Where are your hands at? I'm not playing. This is against you guys. I am the host. Oh, okay. Yeah. She's pretty clear. No, I'm...

That's a... Well, I mean, I will say... You definitely know some people that would definitely do that. I could definitely name a few names. Yeah, I mean... Whatever. Anyway, it's not about me. It's about you guys right now.

So, never have I ever had sex on my roommate's bed. Oh, for sure. Scandalous, but yeah. I respect my roommate. bed. Oh, for sure. Scandalous, but yeah. Big comfy beds. I try to. Never have I ever had sex on the beach. I'm not trying

to injure myself. I wish I could say the same, but standing in private places is never a cheap thing. Wait, really? Never have? No, yeah. Never.

Huh. On the rocks, yes. Trying to be a good boy. Ooh, rocks not, little rocks, not saying. Let's see. never have i ever walked in on my brother sister or parents having sex oh i would not be okay i wouldn't be here i'd hit the reset button never have i ever purchased an adult pay-per-view movie i've definitely yeah

for real what was it probably you know in my younger days when I was exploring my sexuality were you like in a hotel room on vacay or what

oh yeah Spice Channel I was all about the Spice Channel it always has to be on vacay you know you accidentally

hit the button on the remote and it's like back door so it's not or whatever you know a whole list of you didn't put a finger

down for that one no okay just Jesse okay I'm not trying to spend my money never have I ever Back door sluts, not. Or whatever, you know, like a whole list of them. You didn't put a finger down for that one? No. No? No. Okay, just Jesse. Okay. I'm not trying to spend my money. Never have I ever used handcuffs during sex. You can't say never have I ever.

I feel like you definitely have, and Jesse, you have too. Have I? Maybe blindfolds and like- I actually haven't. Really? No. Should we do that? Maybe like shoelaces.

Shoelaces. Yeah. You know? As handcuffs or anywhere else? Yeah, you just tie each other up. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, no, I never have.

Mrs. Officer. Let's see. What else do I have? I'm going to have to go buy some handcuffs now just to have it there on standby. Get the ones with like the pink trail around it or like the real deal ones. Get back to me by the end of the summer. I get you. I get you.

Never have I ever had sex with a married man or woman. Goodness gracious. I got to drop a finger and say quite a bit, but it's never my fault. You know what I get the next morning is I get, oh, my husband's going to be so mad. And I didn't know, but it happens. I don't mean to be the bad guy. All right, Jesse's at four. Eric's two.

You're almost out. I think this one's going to get Jesse and not you. Oh, she swears. Never have I ever sent a sext. Like a nude. I don't. Honestly, like. Come on, Jesse.

I have one on my phone from you. I am not ashamed of my dick, but I just do not want it floating around like that. I've definitely, like, sent a snap. That counts. Does that count? Yes, that counts. Okay. Not up in the cloud. A snext. A snext

has been done. Never have I ever hooked up on a first date. What do you consider a date? Hang and bangs, you know. First time meeting a human. Never have I ever hooked up on the first date. Like a one night stand. Grandma, earmuffs.

Same Zs. Okay, Jesse has two, Eric has one. All right, now let's see. Never have I ever checked into a hotel just to have sex. Scandalous, but no, not yet. No? Oh, Eric! What hotel?

Don't know. I don't know. I'm not trying to give a shout out to a certain hotel chain. You know who you are. Hit me up for payments. All right. Holiday Inn Express, thank you. I had a feeling Eric was going to lose that one.

Curious. I would say making love. Good game. Good game. Congratulations. Yeah. You know? You're one finger sluttier than me.

I mean, end of the summer, you're going to have the handcuff game on lock. Yeah. Legit. Okay, that was a great game to start the summer off. Yeah. Now it's like, I feel like I got some work to do. Yeah. I mean, should I try handcuffs?

Is that like what all the kids are doing nowadays? Handcuffs in a hotel room. Yeah. Okay. On a first date. On a first date. Got it. Knock all three out in one.

Okay. Should I have the hotel reservation ready to go as well? No, no, no. It's got to be like last minute. Like, you know, after you get a couple of drinks at a, you know, a little, little Sunday fun day. I'm feeling crazy. Ooh, let's get crazy.

Is that a sex store across the street? Oh my God. Should I whip up my, uh. Oh God. Are these handcuffs for sale? Half price? Were they, were they like the furry handcuffs or like the cop handcuffs? Last I remember, furry.

Furry's fun. Now, was she handcuffed or you were handcuffed? Or handcuffed to each other? Interesting angle. You know me, I keep my love life private. All right. So both of these guys work at Sur. Eric, I think, is our hottest bartender by far.

Jesse, love him. Amazing server. I know I'm not his type. He goes for dudes. You're so bad. Jesse, I think you're the hottest server. You guys are both so hot. Come on.

But he also, you guys, is an amazing and talented singer and performer. That's true. So before we get too into the singles talk, I wanted to play a clip from your new single. Tell me about it first. This is my new single. It's called Stuck, and it comes out on June 28th. Okay, a few days. So by the time this is out, the single will be out.

Yeah, so Spotify, iTunes, Apple Music, everywhere. Jackie Montana. Stuck. Cause I'm stuck without you I'm stuck without you I'm numb without you I'm stuck without you I'm so stuck I'm numb without you I'm numb without you I'm stuck without you

I'm so stuck I like it. Yes. It's like a good love-making song. Oh, yeah. You better watch out. If I'm on the beach and this song is playing,

sex on the beach is definitely happening. First time right there. Might be. Yeah. So, okay, I've known both of you guys for, Eric, like four years now. Jesse, four or five years? Five years, probably, going strong.

Crazy. Yeah, and we all still work at SUR. It's insane. Where does the time go? Right? I've been there three months, that's all. That's what it feels like. Right?

And, like, do we just keep getting younger? Like, we look so fresh-faced. I mean, I think so. i think it's all of us being single we just like you know it helps that young you don't have the stress of the relationship oh thank god we need to talk yeah i don't hear that no those never want to hear those four words we need to talk a new phone who dis yeah okay so being single in la in L.A., I'm sure it's different for men and women. But I feel like it's not really the place you want to be if you're looking for somebody to settle down with. Am I right? Absolutely not.

It's true. I've told people that when they're like, oh, you know, I really want to start a relationship. I'm like, oh. You're like, I'm not the guy for you. Listen, move back to Maine or Seattle or, you know, I really want to start a relationship. I'm like, oh. You're like, I'm not the guy for you. Listen, move back to Maine or Seattle or, you know. I mean, people are too focused on themselves out here. They're not yet. So true.

They're focused on themselves. They don't have time for other people, in my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion. It's crazy. It's like L.A. is like a sir on steroids. It's like, just when you get so comfortable and you're already sick

of seeing the same faces, every six months we get a brand new transplant from middle America coming here with big starry eyes. Okay, you guys are both kind of from middle America. Let's be honest.

100%. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it. No, so. Proud. Okay, so Jesse is from Montana, hence the name Jesse Montana. Eric is from Kansas.

Nah, from Santa Monica. What's up? Born and raised on the beach, bruh. No, I remember the first time I met this guy, I'm like, okay, first of all, his voice is like, obviously, as you guys can hear, it's super deep and sexy. And then I'm like, oh, so like, where are you from? And he's like, Kansas. I was like, wait, what?

I just, I wouldn't have. Just ruining me. By complimenting you. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that. So, how is it different being from Montana and Kansas, like dating back home to dating in LA? Well, go ahead. Actually, you go.

You sure? Yeah. All right. Dating, I feel like dating back home is more like, hey, there's someone that I see sometimes, and we're going to get married. I don't know. I was there through college, then left. Are all of your friends married with kids? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Same. A hundred percent. Every year, we do a man trip because all my friends that are married and have kids are like, I need something. I need that. You know, they're like, show us the life, Eric. Please. I need stories.

So, yeah, most people back home, get married up early. You know, high school sweetheart, if not somebody else, that just was not for me. Not my thing. Yeah. Very similar. Very, very same, same. And for me, I mean, obviously when I was living in Montana, that was a whole other chapter. I mean, you know,

I was hiding in that closet real deep. So it's like my dating experience back in the day was almost like a double life, if you will. I was dating girls and dating guys on the DL. It was wild, you know. It was wild.

It was definitely a fun experience of just sexual exploration and identity situations. So do you, as a gay man, find it easier dating in a place like L.A.? Or is it more just like swipe right, let's bang? Honestly, it sucks out here. There are so many hotties left and right, but, like, there's just a lot of times nothing there. So unless you're just ready to just bang it out, you know, it's like a hidden and quitted kind of a town. But, you know, every now and then you find a gem that's worth spending some time on. And I guess that's what we're doing right now.

We're just kind of shuffling through gems this summer. Yeah. Single summer. Single. Single summer. Single sexy summer soldiers. I got you. So, Eric, longest relationship you've been in? I'd say probably like eight months. I feel like, right, for me?

For you? For me. Yeah, for you, that's, but I mean, that's not that long. Eight months is like, that's like a home run derby for me. Wow. Basically, I was married in LA. Yeah. That's how it happens.

Okay. Well, you definitely got Sheena and I beat. Yeah. We're like eight years. We're still monogamous over here. Right? And then your longest relationship, Jesse? Six years.

What? Was it six? What? Are you serious? Yeah. Was that here? Jesse. Six years. Yeah. What? Was it six? What? Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Was that here? Seriously.

This was a million years ago. I was basically a fetus. But we met when I was 18 going on 19, and we moved from Washington to Vegas to LA. That's crazy. So yeah, that was that chapter. Where'd you guys meet? We met in Seattle. Yeah?

Wow. Kind of crazy. Six years? Yeah. Yeah. That's a big deal. We still yeah, that was that chapter. Where did you guys meet? We met in Seattle. Yeah? Wow. Kind of crazy. Six years? Yeah. Yeah. That's a big deal. We still share a chihuahua. That's a big deal.

Oh, okay. This ex-boyfriend. Got it. But that was like another moment of my life, you know? Six, four years, then two years. Six years. One year. I'm like now decreasing.

Right? With every relationship and every broken heart. Just samples here and there. It's just less and less and less. Yeah. The older we get. Yeah. Yeah.

So you've been single for how long now, Jesse? I feel like I'm hitting my four-month marker. Okay. So I told myself, I feel like Sheena and I were talking about this. We're like, let's just be fucking single for the summer. Yeah. And enjoy this. Smart. Because we'll focus on us. We'll like, let's just be fucking single for the summer and enjoy this. Smart.

Because we'll focus on us. We'll do us. We have so much great things going for us. And in the process, like, let's have a little bit of fun. Because Sheena and I are so similar. We get so dedicated to the one that we call our person when we do find that person. So it's like, now it's just time to, like, love ourselves. Now it's me time.

Hey, listen. Screw that. The winter is cuffing ourselves. Now it's me time. Hey, listen. Screw that. The winter is cuffing season. Right now is when you got to have fun, show off that summer vibe. Yeah. Bugs out. Yeah, yeah. Flash it out.

You know, when it gets cold outside and you get a little lonely and you need a cuddle buddy. But right now it's too hot. Too hot to cuddle. Yeah. Just rip it off. Just rip it off. Rip it and rip it, baby.

I do love, though, that I live by the beach because, well, I also have central AC for the first time in nine years, which is so clutch. But living by the beach, it's like just opening up the windows and having that like marina air. It is the dream. It's completely different. So nice, you guys. You, Jesse, you still haven't even been over. I know. I have to.

I'm coming over with a fruitcake or whatevs I'm still having post part like a PTSD for you leaving Park La Brea I know

you're no longer my neighbor we were neighbors for like five the last five years it was literally like across the parking lot

we would go out together then we would just spend the night together I would walk across the parking lot and the rest is history it was so easy but wait when you see my new place you're gonna be like okay I would walk across the parking lot and the rest is history. It was so easy. But wait, when you see my new place, you're going to be like, okay, I get it.

She's about to join the yacht club. Yeah. I need to find me a boater, a yachter, a sailor. An old 83-year-old man with a yacht. Maybe we can find some twins. Ooh. Yeah, 83, that sounds right about. Yeah.

I haven't done that yet. Yes. Never have I never. I'm like sitting on my deck yesterday and i see this yacht go by and i'm like who's that i need to be friends with that person you need a you need like a sign right you know like in the audience i think i just need to like lift my shirt up and just like flash them be like hey can i come on your boat help i need a tan i need more you know like yeah take me out uh-huh we do need that for the summer we need the yacht for the summer

yeah we do okay i'll work on the yacht for us i will i will work on that okay um what would you say are the best and worst parts about being single best part uh everything it's honestly it's very liberating like you are a free bird like i feel like i don't have to report to anybody i'm so when i'm with somebody i'm so connected we communicate left and right like now it's like oh do i want to do this i want to do that i want to talk to this person it's so crazy i have i have ptsd from like my first relationship ever where i get a text and they go who is that i'm like oh really and they go who is that that? I'm like, Oh really? And they go, who is that? And you know, check my phone or, you know, I keep it going for a while. Cause I'm,

I can be an asshole, you know? And I was like, no, no, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Like I heard you got a text money. This is in like high school, but, uh, you know, I heard you got a text. Is it a girl? I'm like, yes. Like, then let me see it. And they started getting mad at me. I'm just kind of being a dickhead, you know, because I know I'm going to embarrass them. And then they check. They finally get my phone out of my hands. You're saying there. There are more than one.

No, it was one person at a time. Gotcha. Okay, just clarifying. But got my phone out of my hands. He has his height. Right? Got my phone out of my hands and then saw that it was my mom that texted me. So that's kind of like what I've been used to is stuff like that where it's like, chill.

I mean, we all know. I mean, I dated one of my exes was super duper fucking paranoid as that. I mean, at one point he thought Sheena and I were fucking. Oh my God. That's right. I was like, are you fucking joking me right now? Were you though? Like, were we?

But we're not. Years later, it all comes out, right? Yeah. Shoot. No, it's crazy when you're with somebody like that that doesn't trust you and you and you don't give them any reason to do that it's so it's crazy it's so oh my god i'll never forget he literally literally one time i went and got a cinnabon and like the frosting fell on my shirt middle of a party middle of a party okay he ruins

the party because he says what is that what is that on your shirt DNA test the next day ruin my $100 top shop no stop it are you serious real life from frosting yeah

and didn't even apologize did they come back with like the actual they were like sir this came from the Cinnabon like did they have or like this was

the Dunkin Donuts literally like a do it yourself at home like DNA test like you just put like a purple schmear on the shirt.

And I guess if it turns a certain color, the rest is history. Interesting. But obviously it didn't turn. Our exes get molded with the right above. DNA testing. I feel like, though, when you are in a relationship, once that trust is broken, it's really hard to get back.

Oh, I agree 100%. It's happened to me where I can think the world of somebody, and then as soon as there's one thing, like, you know, our hearts are dumb. Our brains are like, hey, don't do this. But our hearts are like, no, no, I really love this person. But as soon as, like, there's one thing, and, like, then my heart just shuts down. It's like, nah, nah, nope, nope, not a chance of taking that person back and there's just something in me where it's like you cross the line one time i'm like oh no you're gone forever

goodbye it is nice so when you do find the right person you got you click and you get into that rhythm that is probably the best part for me about being in a relationship is like i don't have to worry about it anymore it's like you know'm living my life. I'm doing me. That's my person. We're sharing this life together, and it's amazing. It's like you don't have to worry about it. But then isn't it crazy that when those relationships end, I mean, at least for me, my most current, not my ex-husband, but my most current, my ex-boyfriend, it's like I have a harder time now trying to remember the good parts of it. I can only think about he never did this.

He never did that. And it's like, it's crazy how you could go from thinking someone is just your entire world and they're the best person ever to like, just being like, ugh. You know what sucks? What the hell? Like, what was I thinking almost? Like, this is crazy. No, I feel like I've kind of explained this before.

So it's like if the dating life is like a graph or a scale. So like, if you're single, it's just kind of like nothing good, nothing bad. It's just chill. If you're super, it's chill. You know, there's no like super ups, super downs. No bickering and fighting and bullshit. Right, it's just like living life, life's good. When you find like a person you really like, that's like when you go up and up and up and you're super happy.

But life's all about balance. So eventually there's going to be that super negative too. So it's like in my accounts, it's like, all right, you can either chill in the middle and be good. Or it's like you can find a person, fall head over heels for them, and then crash and burn. Especially for career things and stuff. fall head over heels for them and then crash and burn later so it's like especially for you know career things and stuff i'd hate you know i'd hate i'd hate for someone to be like hey you know we want you to work on this and then you're just out of it because you know you can be out for like three months after you know like a heartbreak and like where you're at mentally after you know uh

it's so when you kind of devote yourself to someone every time you meet somebody and you start falling for that person it's so weird because it's like, it does feel like the first time all over again every time. And you get so excited and you're so into it. But then, I don't know, for you or even you, like for me, as I'm getting older now, I'm like, okay, here we go again. I'm excited for it. I love this. But like, now I'm becoming more and more of a pessimist. You're waiting for the fall.

It's just not going to be fucking good anymore. Let's start with Vegas, because Vegas is when I really started being single. I was still a little obsessed up until Vegas, and then once I got to Vegas, I was just like, this is done. I love that word. Put it in the Webster. Let him know.

The first guy I started hanging out with, one of the Magic Mikes, okay? Hey. Very good looking. What up? So we start hanging out for a couple weeks, and we're clicking and whatnot, and all I can think of is, how is this going to end? Because it's not going to go any further, because I don't want it to go any further. He doesn't want it to go any further, but how is it going to end?

And then each guy sends in, I'm like, is it just going to, like, dwindle out naturally, which has happened. There's been other instances where there was, like, one drunken moment that I just could not get past. But it's, like, I hate the, I mean, it's good, I think, because, like, my heart is just completely shut down right now. Like, I don't think it's possible for me to catch feelings. But when I'm hanging with someone, it's just kind of like, so when is this going to end? Yeah, and I think that's why relationships in L.A. for me have been like, you know, two weeks, and they're like,

dang, we did good. Or, you know, like, whatever. Because elsewhere, it's, you know, much longer. But it's like, in L.A., because everyone is just playing defense. Yeah. And they're like, I'd rather shut it down before I get hurt. Everyone's thinking that way. And so there's no like, this is going to go a while. Everyone's like, all right, when do I pull the rug out before it gets pulled out on me?

I feel like people are just- So is that like a conversation you have or it just kind of, it's like, well, you just stop texting and stop reaching out. And then it just naturally dies. Yeah, I mean, the ghosting. I've been on both. It definitely works. Oh, for sure.

It sucks to be on the receiving end of that. Right, no. I can't ghost people. I'm too good at responding. Someone knows if I'm not responding, I'm playing a game. You guys know. I'll text you back immediately if you respond. And then if I don't, it's like, I'm not going to play that game. It's like, you know know i'll text you back immediately if you respond and then if i don't it's like i'm not gonna play that game it's like you know i'm gonna fucking respond right away right

but then yeah even with the new boys you talk to these days like in this summer are you do you let somebody marinate for three to four minutes or do you text back right away um it depends like if i'm in my podcast i'm not gonna be texting people back it's going to be an hour or two before I respond. If it's, there's certain people where it's like, I know that they're not going to be checking their phone. So it's like, if I want to get in that conversation right away, I'm like, okay, I need to respond right away because they might just respond and then put their phone away. Like my friend Robbie, the absolute fucking worst, drives me insane.

So the second I hear, like I have certain text tones for certain people. So when I hear his text tone, I'm like, I need to respond right away because he's not going to respond for like five more hours. And that's just like a friend thing. So it depends. I just I don't like playing. Wait, what is my phone doing? Oh my god. What the fuck?

That was so weird. I don't text on my phone while she's just calling people on her phone. That's so weird. A Beverly Hills number just called me and I accidentally could tell her shit. Robbie, you're talking about Robbie. Whoops. Oh my god, I'm dead.

Yeah, wait, now I lost my train of thought. Oh, no, so I just, I don't like playing games. I'm a very blunt, straightforward person, as I know both of you are too. I just think it's like life's too short to beat around the bush, and it's just like, look, this is what I want. If you want it too, cool. That is exactly how any time I meet a person now that I'm like, hey, we might have a lot of fun together.

It's almost like a verbal contract. I'm like, hey, here's the thing. Probably not going to marry you. I mean, let's be real. And we can have a lot of fun, and then there's a couple of ground rules maybe. Maybe I'm a terrible person for it, but also I'm up front at the very beginning.

Right. And so I expect it to be good, and it's worked out good sometimes, but when it doesn't work out good, it's because the person hears me, and then they i can i can change him i can change him and so that's when it doesn't work good because then they catch feels then they're like but i thought it was like sorry so you really you don't catch feels at all try not to you try not to or like do you have like um like what what am i i was born to say this? I was born to be against relationships.

I was raised to not believe in them. Like, which sounds terrible, but it's the truth. I mean, I was coached from a young age, like, don't ever. Don't you ever. But, like, do you have, like, rules to, like, not catch things? Like, oh, I won't do a sleepover or I won't take her to dinner. Or, like, are there, like, certain things, like, when you're dating or having sex with the girl the girl or whatever that like, you're like, I'm not going to do this because I might catch feelings. No, but definitely being in L.A., I understand how the person you're with can change how people view you a lot.

And so one of the big rules. Oh, this sounds bad. Mom, dad, grandma, grandpa. Sorry. oh this sounds bad mom dad grandma grandpa sorry um one of the big rules can be like you know maybe we're not gonna take this public you know because when you start seeing somebody it's almost like out here where their enemies become your enemies the people they hate you have to hate that person now and when it's a you, you know, they say LA is a small, big city or big, small city, whatever it may be. And it kind of sucks when you can lose work because someone goes, hey, this person's dating

so-and-so. I don't really like her or I don't really like him. And then you can lose work from that? Like, no. So when it comes to my relationships, it's like, let's keep that private. That's between us yeah basically i also don't want to be that chihuahua in a bag that's like oh my god look at my little look at my man look what i got like i you know i had to think about i was literally visualizing what are you talking about and that chihuahua you know what i'm saying where it's

just like like a little like clutch thing yeah where i'm just like let's go out to eat just so i can we can be seen together and be like oh my god look who she's with you know not saying you don't want to be the trophy not saying I'm anybody but it's just

yeah I'd rather not because I feel like that's how it is a lot of times like look at us look at us like yeah a lot of I mean there are a lot of people that are like

you know they just want to show off what they have their piece their prize piece oh I was guilty of that in my last relationship for sure, and we all saw how that worked out.

So I don't do that shit anymore. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you're cool, you're fun, whatever. It is crazy that what you were saying is like, I mean, even now, where I'm at post the last relationship, it's like I'm thinking about even the casual people that I'm meeting. I'm like, okay, do I

bring, like, we're going to the movies meeting. I'm like, okay, do I – like we're going to the movies tonight. I'm like, do I bring this little Italian stallion that I met the other night to this movie? Yes, you do. With Ariana and Billy. You guys are like my family. So it's like everybody that we date like becomes a part of our family. Oh, yeah. So it's like – and then it's like they're going through rings of fire.

Right. Like my last ex was thrown into our life. Oh, I know. And it was, like, so crazy. But, yeah, living in L.A. adds that much more of a layer of complexity to dating. It affects, it can affect your career so easy. I was seeing this girl when I first moved to L.A. And, you know, I started, like, learning about her.

And, you know, over time you learning about her and, you know, over time you learn about each other and we'd be out to eat breakfast or whatever. Like people would come up to her like big name people and like, Hey, what's up? Talk to her. I'm like, wait, you know, so-and-so like, Oh yeah, yeah. Just casual. And it happened more and more and more. And what I realized is it was one of those people we were having a lot of fun and it was like, you know, I don't see this going anywhere else except a lot of fun. Right. And then I realized, all right, I'm new to L.A.

People are going to start knowing me as so-and-so's boyfriend. Right. And that's terrible because what happens is if I'm so-and-so's boyfriend, then we break up. And I met all these people as so-and-so's boyfriend. Yeah. Then they go, oh, you broke my friend's heart. F that guy. You know, like't i don't like that guy so i decided this person knows too many people like isn't that weird how like your career will change who you're with and it did it scared

me away from it because i go if i plan on marrying the girl that'd be great because i'd have the end with so many people right i was like no we're just having fun you know yeah and uh it's scary it's scary v scary dating in l.a seriously that's why two months is like you guys are married for like 10 years yeah two months is like doing it friends with benefits good idea bad idea i love it if you listen if you do it right it's so so good. But if you think you can change the person, it will not work. But if you get on that right program, it's the most healthy thing out here.

I feel like sometimes the worst part about it is someone can always catch feels, and then that turns into something more complicated. But if you have that conversation up front, then you're putting it all out there up front. So it's like, if you do, it's like, I told you. I didn't want, I'm not looking for anything.

Yep, exactly. Yeah. It's amazing. It's so fun. It's great. I agree with it. Yep. Yep.

Sleeping with coworkers. Good idea? Bad idea? Bad idea, but it happens. Yeah, definitely a horrible, horrible idea. Sir, it happens in the VIP bathroom. Hey, we've all dealt with it, and it is what it is. Have either of you had sex yet, sir?

No. No. Not yet. Not yet. Me and Jessie, what's up, babe? Yeah, you work tomorrow or not? Let's do this. You trying to go in the, let's just go right in the middle.

Let's just meet me in the lounge. Yeah, I'm not mad. You're on the bar. Let's meet me at bar four. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, on the little couch right there. 7.30.

It's not hard eye contact. We're just going to hold eye contact the whole time. We could just go into the garden maybe, actually. It's a little romantic in there, you know? Well, I don't know about romance. Open roof, like stars. Missionary? What are we talking?

We're role-playing here. Cool. All right, let's figure it out. Well, that took a turn. Are you guys on dating apps? Yeah. Yeah. Which ones and what's like your fave and least fave?

Oh, man. I've never done it. Shut up. I swear. I've been lucky with my consistent D that I don't need to swipe right or left. Look at her phone right now. She's got all the apps. I feel like when you and I were like dating when you were with Shay and I was with Scott.

But anyways, that chapter of our lives, we were both in four plus year relationships and we missed the whole Tinder, Bumble. Raya. When it all came out, I missed it. And I remember I got a little FOMO in my head every now and then. I'm like, everyone's swiping left and right and having all this fun. And I'm like, so interested. And the minute I became single, I like tried it all out.

And like, so horrible. I hate it so much. The only ones I have right now are Raya. Okay. Raya, however you say it. I have that too, yeah. And I never let it go, even in my last relationship. Because I'm just like, I just go to turn on.

I paid for it. I've already got accepted. I don't know what this board of committee is. Oh, yeah. No, it took a while. But once they kick you off, like, you're kicked off. I've already got accepted. I don't know what this board of committee is. Oh, yeah. No, it took a while. But once they kick you off, like, you're kicked off. What happened to Stassi?

Yeah, I'm like, I will take the blessing and pay my $6 a month, whatevs. And then I had Bumble, which is how I met my last ex. Bumble's nice. So now I'm jaded, so she's deleted. Wait, wait. I do have a. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. No. Okay. Yeah. I do have a question about Bumble. So a coworker was telling me about Bumble. She was talking about going on a date and met someone through Bumble. I'm like, what is this?

What is Bumble? She's like, well, it's cool because if guys and girls meet, then the girl has to say something first to the guy. Oh, that's right. On Tinder, it's more like you both meet and then the guy's like, dick pic, dick pic. I assume. I don't send dick pics. But it can be weird. It can be more aggressive.

But Bumble, the chicks have to send the first message. Well, how does that work with you? Is it just one of the parties has to send the first? It's neutralized. So it is just like Tinder then. Clever wants to boom first. Nice. Okay.

So now do you think that one app is more for just like hang and bangs and one's more like relationship driven? I feel like Tinder is like a low-key, calmer version of Grindr for straight people. I really do. So what's Grindr? Oh, Grindr is about like meet me in this bathroom. It's like I'm going to be wearing red socks. It's very, very freaky and very scary. I remember in my blackout.

I've heard a lot of stories about that. In my heartbroken blackout month like on the month that I got that the breakup happened I mean I was like trying to mend my broken heart so I did everything.

I was blacked out for a whole month. I tried Grindr. Horrible. It's so bad. It's like you're literally wasting time on this app sending pictures

and then the other person is not into it and then you ghost each other. Yeah. And the sex isn't even that great. Yeah. I like a little real life chemistry yeah going oh for sure so much better 100 100 there's something to be said yeah i feel like and that also counteracts like with dating apps too i just feel like you can click on an app first and then you meet in real life and there's no

well i spark i just do like just knowing there's beautiful people around me. Like, that's crazy. You know, I can always swipe. You're in LA. They're everywhere. Yeah, I know, but it's just good to know. It is crazy. We really do take it for granted. You, like, go somewhere else for a little bit, and you're like, whoa.

Oh, yeah. Whoa. Are you guys on dating apps for any reason that it's, like, a little confidence boost? You're like, ooh, yeah, I just got, like, 22 swipe rights. Not because, oh, I mean, sometimes that happens, but, like, I don't like i don't that's not specifically like i'm not gonna wake up and check it back what no one's you know no one's swiping no one's swiping right on me what are you out of your mind no i uh it's just it's just there i mean but in a lot of times like you'll match with somebody and then even if you're like oh this person is super sexy you're like still like yeah not gonna

message him you know it's just like it's so interesting sometimes people just never message And then even if you're like, oh, this person is super sexy, you're still like, yeah, not going to message them. It's just like one of those somewhere. It's so interesting. Sometimes people just never message each other. It reminds me of back in the day when you're at the high school dance. Yeah, you just eye contact. Everyone's just on each side of the gym floor. No one's meeting in the middle for the dance.

You just watch each other. A lot of times it's fun to know there's sexy people around here. What's your opening line, though, on a dating app? So when you match with somebody, this always fascinates me, is everyone has a different game. What's your opening line? Before we find out what that is, I do want to tell you guys about something. So it's really cool.

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for free. All the workouts, the nutrition information, and support, totally free. Again, just text Sheena to 303030. What was your question, Jesse? Opening line.

Opening line on. Yeah. Dating apps. Dating apps. When you match, what is it? Opening line. All right. There's an emoji.

There's an emoji. Ooh. Guess which emoji it would be. Which one? He just says eggplant, squirt, hole. The hole. Sometimes a squirrel, you know, if they get it. The sexual attention, by the way,

in our little group chat for this thing is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Listen, there's a difference between the first thing you say and what your profile says, you know? What does your profile say? Oh, it's changing a lot. But sometimes, you know, sometimes you're like, you know? What does your profile say? Oh, it's changed a lot. But sometimes, you know, sometimes you're like,

you know, maybe I want to meet somebody. You know, you're a little dopey. And then other times you're like, I don't care. I'm going to put funny stuff. And, like, it can be very forward. And if people respond to it, a lot of times they're like, wow, you're probably really funny. Plus, I want to fuck.

I mean, can we say that? Do people have DTF in their profiles oh yeah yeah some people some people do some people are like what's up uh busy all the time so if you're dtf what's up and then i go no i'm a christian boy just kidding i wonder what your bio is now i'm actually so curious uh it's changed a lot but it's definitely it's definitely been straight up before but you're like on so you're Bumble and Tinder

Bumble, Tinder Raya Raya I don't know I don't know which one it is I know you should play what songs are Raya's songs

oh man there's songs on there yeah yeah yeah it's a slideshow I've never done I think I think right now it's like Major Lazer

and it's some like good say no i'm like oh this guy's got some energy and then for a minute i saw that uh like chris oh what was it like chris stapleton and uh justin timberlake to say something oh yeah oh yeah because i don't know i saw the music video and i was like damn that's a good video so i it was just stuck in my head but so okay you match with someone. You swipe right on each other, whatever. Then you start a conversation. Yeah.

And then, like, what do you do from there? Is it just, like, do you want to go get drinks? Do you take them out to dinner? Do you just have them come over? How does this, like, work? I feel like, okay, so my last... I've never met someone online, so I don't know, like, how that...

My last relationship was because of Bumble.ble yeah and obviously we all know him yeah you all know knew whatever so that was very interesting because that was me playing a new kind of game when it came to like these dating apps i was like so sick of matching with people and nothing ever happening and like we're so busy that it's like we don't have time to like be marinating in these apps like yeah i want to get in and get out real quick so it's like and get back to real life so this last time i was like with everybody i was matching with i was very aggressive and i was very forward and i just was like whole emoji i'd be like hey what's up i'd be like yo and i don't even know but i would just like send all these messages and be like let's

get lunch tomorrow or something. I just was like, because I was like, we can meet and make something happen. And I called it date zero. It's like the first date. It's not a one-on-one. It's a casual come with me and my friends. We're going to do something really fun. And it ended up being like an OK magazine party. I really threw him to the wolves.

And it clicked and it worked and we kissed, you know know and then we dated for a whole year you know so it worked what about you yeah stay away from that stuff like i said honestly most time i'll match with people and then be like nah you know like i don't know i'll match people and be like not so much like maybe yeah what's up you're cute like just the basic thing and then like you're cute too and then never let it go anywhere else. Be like, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm an odd one.

I don't know if I would use the word odd. You're just, you're a very special individual. Like, you're not like most people. I'll say that. But like in a good way. All right. Like, no. We're friends. We know that.

One of a kind. I'm only friends with really cool people. Okay. So, okay. One of a kind. I'm only friends with really cool people, okay? Okay, so other than dating apps, where would you say the best place to meet a guy or girl, whether you just want to bang them or date them? Ooh, go to the club rats.

Go get a bottle, spend $1,000 on a bottle, get table service, and then be like, what's up, I'm a producer, you want to be in movies? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Other than Sir. I'm sure you guys have banged people you've met at Sir. I would never. Worked with? Truth.

Truth. Both of you have banged coworkers. I'm celibate. Well, a handful. At least a gaggle. Okay, so other than Sir or the club. I'm kidding. This is a weird one because I feel like we live in LA

so it's a very different type of city. It's like everyone's so closed off and like in their own zone. Yeah. So people are not as receptive as like

back home in Montana. Like, you know, you're like waving at each other at traffic. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, hey, how are you? Like driving by the Walmart.

Yeah. But like here it's like you're just trying to like get in and get out of everything. But I don't know. Air One is a really chic grocery store by my house. Yeah. But like here it's like, you're just trying to like get in and get out of everything. But I don't know. Air one, uh,

is a really chic grocery store by my house. And I swear I might meet my next there because everyone is so drop dead gorgeous. You guys should come get lunch with me there. I met a really hot guy at target once. I remember. What was he shopping for? Mine? What was he shopping for?

Oh shit. I don't remember. He was like 6'5". He was an actor who was so funny because then I started watching a new show and this guy was on it. Never seen him before on anything. And then all of a sudden he's on this show regularly that I'm watching. I was like, that's the Target guy.

But it didn't go anywhere. Damn. I want to know who Target guy is. He sounds fun. I know. I think his name was Victor. Victor? I don't remember.

What show was he on? I don't remember. This was before Shay, so this was like 10 years ago. This is old single sheet. I got you. Yeah. Have you guys ever been on a blind date? I never have, no.

Too many? No, no, no. Honestly, I feel like it's so funny. Your friends sometimes either think they know who you should really be with and they set you up or try to set you up. It's usually like I've had friends try to set me up and I always turn it down because I'm like, okay, just because we're both gay does not mean I'm into this person. He also likes dudes. Okay, right. So you don't know my type at all.

All right. You want to know the problem? He looks like Napoleon Dynamite. Come on. Right? You want to know the problem I've had a lot is, I mean, I think I come off as a very flirty person. And I guess you were saying even in the text, you're like, oh, so tension.

But that's just me all the time. But we're both that way. Yeah. And so it's like we're like that with each other too. Yeah. I think it's funny and I do it all the time. Yeah. But even when I go to one of my best friends, he just moved to Dallas.

So he's not my best friend anymore, man. You leave my city, you're done. No, but we'd go out to eat and I'd be talking with the waitress and he'd be like, oh, Eric's flirting with this chick. And maybe I was, maybe I wasn't. But the thing he would do and he did it a couple times he would invite the chick out like hey what time you get off and it'd be like six she's like I'm off at 6 30 he's like oh dope come out with us after and then she'd you

know go to like grab our food or our drinks and I'm like cool man did you just try and set me up and he's like yeah man you're welcome and I'm like no no. I'm a grown up, man. Here's the thing. I will invite someone out, you know. Yeah. What sucks is when, you know, he'd invite that person out for me thinking he was doing good. And then later I'd be like, now I'm stuck with this person all night. Yeah. And I started telling him like one time I had to tell him.

I was like, all right, man, here's the thing. I will pick. I do appreciate it. But I will pick them up if I want to. I was like, other than that, if you do that from now on, I'm making you hang out with them all night. I'm the same way. Because it's happened multiple times where then the rest of the night I had to hang out with this, like, stranger. And I'm like, oh.

That's so annoying. No, really. And then, you know, I'm like, all right, I'm going to go. Like, well, I'll come too. I'm like, no. No, no, no, no. I hate when someone comes up for their friend. They're like, hey, so my friend thinks. I'm like, no. If your friend doesn't have no. I hate when someone comes up for their friend. They're like, hey, so my friend thinks.

I'm like, no. If your friend doesn't have the balls to come up to me himself, then no. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. It happened to me the other day. We watched the World Cup, and my buddy kept going up to people, a different buddy, and kept going up to people and brought this girl over, and I was like, nah.

So I let them. I kind of pushed the conversation into each other. So they were talking, and this chick left. Then 15 minutes later, her friend comes in. 15 minutes later, I'm like, were you guys stewing about this? But her friend came in with a number, gave it to me. It was like, call my friend later. So then I gave it to my buddy because I was like, nah.

Nah. Nah. later and so then I gave it to my buddy because I was like nah nah so the other night I met Catch with the whole crew it was right after the MTV TV Awards and I'm not going to say his name

I'll tell you guys after but very famous actor who was also at the awards won a couple awards what not he's at Catch at another table and so Stassi was like Sheena I dare you to like go up and talk to him and i don't say no to a dare just so you guys i don't say no to dares and so i'm like hold on let me google him first i google him it appears he still has a girlfriend so i'm not expecting it

to go but i was like i'm not gonna say no to a dare the power of google there's another guy at the table who's on another television show who james kennedy So he's like, I'm going to go up to him. You go up to him. And so I was just like, fuck it. I'm doing it. I'm very bold and blunt. So I go up and I was like, hey. I was like, hi, I'm Sheena.

He introduces himself. I said, I just want to congratulate you on the award earlier. I said, we were nominated, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, oh, dope. He's like, so what are you up to later? And I was like, I don't know, just here. And we're just going to go from there. I'm not sure.

And he's like, oh, you should meet me at Hyde. I was like, well, you should take my number. Boom. And then I did. And then he called me and it said no caller ID. He's like, oh, I'll text you. He's like, my number's blocked. He didn't text.

I didn't go to Hyde. But I did not say no to the dare. I was just like, no, I'm not. Even if, I mean, had he texted, yeah, I would have been like white on rice on that one. But I was just like I'm not going to turn down the dare

but now I'm losing my train of thought I'm dying to know who this is I cannot wait to find out I'll write it down

on this paper okay yeah so I mean I would have lost straight man I would have but yeah so didn't end up going to hide that night nothing happened but i was like you know what if it did work out i would have been like yeah i fucking made that happen because i went up on my own that's nice and but even though i never heard from him it's not gonna stop me from doing it again yeah you know for sure yeah dang no one

no one even had to double dog dare her. They were just like, do it. She's like, it's just done. Twist my arm. I was like, all right, I'm doing this, and then you're buying me a drink. Nice. And she was like, I can't watch. I can't watch.

And I was like, you can't dare me to do something and then not watch. And I came back. I was like, did you see that? And she was like, I really couldn't watch. That's funny. But anyway. Wow. Okay.

So how long do you guys think you should wait before you start dating after a breakup? Do you think there's a time limit? I don't break up with people because I don't date people. Jesse, this question is for Jesse. It's just ongoing. Yeah. I think this is, you know, I feel like all my breakups have been so brutal. I don't know why.

I get so invested. So it's like for me, I'm like the last, so before this last one that I was in, I told myself because Scott fucked me up so hardcore. Yeah, I know. Like that was a fucked up one. But like, I was like, give myself one year. I made a promise to myself.

I was like, just do one year because before that it was always like three to four months in between breakups, I would rebound with somebody or just have a fuck buddy. And that was like my pattern my whole life. Like always three to four months, somebody. So this time around, you know, heart wasn't ready. I was like focused on my music.

I wrote a lot of music, released a lot of stuff. And it was a year. It was a year and a half. And then I met my ex, John, on Bumble. And then that went real quick. And now here we are three, four months in. And, you know, I think – I mean, I told you I'm ready to just not give a fuck for the whole summer. And then come my birthday month in September, I'll warm it up again, and I'll be ready for another hopeless romantic experience. Nice.

I like single, Jesse. Stay single. No, it's fun. I'm be ready for another hopeless romantic experience. Nice. I like single, Jessie. Stay single. No, it's fun. You're having fun. I'm staying single. Yeah. I like single Sheena, too. I'm proud of you.

Yeah, thanks. Like, Vegas was seriously so good for you. I'm a lot of fun. That needed to happen. And when you were coming back telling me stories, I was, like, living vicariously. I was, like, thank God she's having this moment because she needs this and I'm so happy. Yeah. Yeah. It. Yeah.

It's fun. So fun. So many stories. Okay. So I guess, again, not for Eric because you're not a relationship person. I see. But coming out of a relationship, like if you're newly single and you want like a connection, but you don't want to get in another relationship,

how would you say is the best way to still keep your independence but date without catching feelings? I think it's anybody you get involved with. It's just being honest with yourself and honest with the other person and just communicating, listen, I did just get out of a breakup

and I'm not really ready for anything but i'm enjoying your company uh the sex is great the feels are great so let's just take it one day at a time yeah be present in this moment and uh that's it right just live in the now okay fucking the now um okay wait uh before we finish there is something else i wanted to talk to you guys about so it's really cool it's um called teeny blends so i mean i know you guys know that i'm into working out and staying healthy but seeing major progress in my body sometimes can take forever and i'm impatient so you know i just want to be able to go out enjoy food not worry about putting on more weight or feeling bloated and feeling gross.

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Stalking, like your ex, or do you do that? Every once in a while, you've got to make sure they're doing worse than you. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. A little bit. I'm kidding. It is weird, though.

We live in this really weird day and age where our parents didn't have to go through this. We are all up on social media. It's hardcore. Are you a stalker? Do you go back and... I mean, I'm only human. I get curious. The curiosity gets the best of me.

After a couple martinis. I don't, and people don't believe me. I unfollowed my ex-boyfriend four months ago, and I haven't looked at his page since. It's so weird. There are probably a bunch of posts about you. I mean, my ex-boyfriend. No, no, no, you know, like, low-key, like,

things you would be like, oh, my gosh. Honestly, I feel like it's different. It depends on the relationship and what happened in those relationships. Like, the one before last obviously was so fucked up that, like, you i mean you knew like yeah i blocked him we're still blocked so that i never had to worry about that ever again but with this one it's like we try to be cordial and um we're still open i mean something happened

on social media between us like a little bit a couple weeks ago and i was livid and i went oh yeah i saw that on twitter you asked me about that on twitter and and um i asked lauren chavez i was like i'm so fucking mad right now i'm so disappointed do you think i should block him on everything because or or or or just leave it open you know because that's the i'm like you know what fuck it i'm not gonna block you if you want to see how awesome my life is, you are more than welcome to. And also, it's so easy to just make another profile. So it's like, what's the point of blocking?

That's just like, it's an immature way of dealing. Oh, you're talking about like making one and then creeping on them with that one? Yeah. Like Tony Smith. Or like going on from like your dog's Instagram. I know people who do that. Just like, I don't have the energy. That's what those accounts really are, right?

I mean, you guys know, I deleted Instagram for like four months from my phone. It was just like, and I didn't miss it. I really didn't. And I have it back now. But now I'm way slower at responding because I've tucked it away in a folder. So it was like, he had sent me a DM. I was like, oh, should we get dinner after? And then he was like, yeah, down.

I was like, all right, cool. So in my head, that's the plan. And then seven hours later, I check Instagram. He's like, wait. And I was like, oh, shit. I was like, all right, cool. So in my head, that's the plan, and then seven hours later, I check Instagram. He's like, wait, and I was like, oh, shit, hold on. I'm just seeing. That's what it was like. I just, I don't check as much. But I have a good question, though.

We're talking about, like, posting on social media and blah, blah, blah. Like, when you're dating somebody, putting your relationship on blast, I will never put a person I'm seeing on social. Like, chill with that. When do you put the first photo? How many months into dating somebody

do you think it's appropriate to start posting couple-y photos? I think for my last relationship, it was like four months, maybe. But also, I mean, I'm a public figure. My life is public. So it would be weird if I didn't post photos when I'm very publicly dating someone. So for me, it was like, but also out of respect for my ex-husband, we were still going through the divorce. And out of respect for him, I didn't want to start posting.

Oh my God, look at how happy I am. I didn't know how he was doing. so i tried to keep it private until people were catching on we're going out in public i'm photographed here and it was just like you know i i told my publicist i was like i can't keep this private anymore like i'm just gonna post a picture we're doing red carpets together like it's out there yeah that's a little different you know it's yeah for sure but just in a relationship not in the public eye, I don't know. I would still give it at least a few months. Because, I mean, you don't really know someone in the beginning.

You're still, even for the first six months to a year, it's like you're still in that honeymoon phase. It's like the sex is still good. It's consistent. It's like, so. They can do no wrong. And once you make things public, it does change things. It really does. And not usually for the better.

No, 100%. Even, there was a, like my entire life, I've even said like, we're together, I would never use like dating because as soon as you say dating, like boom,

there's something in people that they go, I can act different now. It's like, no, what we had was so good, chill. Like I would never even use the word dating. And people are like, are you dating? Like so good, chill. I would never even use the word dating. And people are like, are you dating?

Like, well, we're mutual. We're not seeing anyone else. Yeah. But we're not dating. It's like, you're dating. It's like, well, don't say that word because it changes people. It's so weird it changes people. It does.

The first guy I started talking to after Rob, he had just like, we were in a conversation. And he was like, well, yeah. And then if you tell your friends, oh, I'm dating the guy. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy with that word, homie. We are not dating. You've got to be careful.

You throw out words. You get too floozy on that. You know we were talking about pulling the carpet out? Yeah. You tell someone we're dating and we're not, I will pull the carpet out and make you look like a fool. I will be like, I don't know that human. You know, like, chill with that. Because, once again, that was in our verbal contract.

Yeah. Do you, like, shake on it or, like, high five? that human yeah like chill with that because once again that was in our verbal contract yeah it was like do you like shake on it or like high five i look the person deep in the eyes and i say i need you to understand that i am very serious and then if they then you just go at it yep yeah and then if they break eye contact i leave if they look down to the left, they're weak. No, I'm kidding. Question for Jesse. When in a relationship, I never have, I've never gone through someone's phone or anything. Do you or have you in the past gone through your ex's DMs or anything social media related to see?

Honestly, my last ex, I felt like we had such a good like we had a very very like solid amount of trust like i never had to worry about it yeah i never had to worry about him thinking that i was doing something weird or wrong like it was it was actually amazing uh i can't say the same about the exes before that. And there was the rebound before even Scott. That one was an interesting one. That one was after my sixth year. I was not ready to be in a relationship. I was so devastated.

So when I met this one guy who was an actor, we hooked up on the first night. It was Tom Hanks. She's still here. Sorry, sorry. But we hooked up on the first night it was tom hanks she's still here um but uh we hooked up on the first date and the sex was fucking amazing and we literally for four months like were together every single day it was insane it went so quick but every two weeks we would check in with each other and we were both like okay we both just got out of a relationship. We're not trying to pressure each other. Let's be cool.

That slowly turned into like a mind fuck after about three months. Yeah. Because then it's like now there really aren't any rules and what are we doing? Right. And that's when I started to get a little paranoid because I was like, wait, what is going on? And that's how it ended because I did actually go through his phone and realized. Never do that. Never.

That he was DMing his ex and they were still hooking up and I was, I popped off. See, but if you look for something, you're going to find it. It might not be what you're looking for, but you will find something. See, that is something

in the verbal contract. Right. No, but, they're, my thing is like, if you're looking for something in the relationships I've been in, if you're,

I've broken up with a girl because she went through my phone and she said, you know, blah, blah you're, I've, I've broken up with a girl because she went through my phone and she said, you know, blah, blah, blah, or whatever. She said something, but I didn't care what she said. The thing was, I said, okay, you don't trust me. And you were looking through my phone. And the reason you were looking through my phone though, I believe was because you did something and you were looking for defense against what she did.

So, you know, there was a little bit of acting strange, never went through my phone. Then one night when I was drunk, went through my phone. When I woke up, you know,

said, I saw you text us so-and-so. I was like, yeah, it's a friend. And they said, well, you said this,

that seems, it seems a little forward. I said, I haven't, you know, there's, I'm not even, it was a friend of mine from college.

You know, the way I talk to people, it's funny. I didn't mean any of that, but I said, I'm, you know, there's, I'm not even, it was a friend of mine from college. You know, the way I talk to people, it's funny. I didn't mean any of that, but I go, but the fact that you look through that, I believe you're trying to find ammo to, if I catch you doing something, well, you remember when? Well, you did this. Yeah. So I was like, nope. I was like, that trust is gone. We're done.

Yeah. Cause it'll, it'll slowly just start falling. Agreed. Well, like even like, even my, my last I remember, like, before we broke up, there was one thing that we talked about that Instagram comments, you know? Uh-huh. Like, you could really go off and, like, go through comments and read each other's shit. Oh, you could drive yourself crazy.

And you would just go into a mind fuck. And, I mean, we all talk, like, we're so, like, flirty and we're just, like, casual with people. I call everybody babe. It's hilarious. Yeah. I casual with people I call everybody babe it's hilarious yeah I love it I call everybody babe

like everybody gets a kissy emoji from time to time so it's like if you go through my phone and read these innocent messages

where I'm just being Jesse Monk I'm the exact same way you know what I mean hey babyish everybody's a babyish you know what I mean so it's like

I mean it's I'm a firm believer. I mean, you know, that was ages ago when I did that on that rebound relationship. That was like, what, five, six years ago. But now I feel like if you're in any kind of relationship, casual or real, just trust, you know, and don't drive yourself crazy. Because at the end of the day, you just sit in front of each other and talk. Yeah.

People are going to do what they want to do regardless. That sucks, but it's just the truth. Even if you find something, they're like, oh, I'll never do it again. Yeah, right. They're going to find a way. Once the trust is broken, I think it's really hard to try to get it back.

That's one of those things where the heart, once it crosses the line, trust. Ooh, as soon as that, then my heart's like, nah, this person's gone. This person's no longer a human. Don't waste your time. It's crazy. So, single, sexy summer, you guys.

Dating in LA. We all work at the sexy, unique restaurant of Sir. Come visit us. Eric can make you the best jalapeno margarita. And Jesse can serve you the best. Jalapeno margarita. Hey. And Jesse can serve you the best. Goat cheese balls. Balls.

Put them on the wall. Yeah. I got your balls waiting. Come and get them. Tell everyone where they can find you so they can see your gorgeous selves on Instagram. Oh. Eric Lutz. E-R-I-C-L-U-T-Z official.

Soon to be James. Soon to be Eric James. Possibly James. You better watch out for that. Right? He should just do porn. You better watch out for that. Right? He should just do porn. Yeah, I mean, that is a very, like, porno kind of name. Then again, so is Jesse Montana.

Listen, we get those DMs. That is true. We get those DMs and we get those emails, but up the price, guys. Let's go. I know my worth. Even if it's, you know, never shows my face, I know my worth. Let's go. Right?

Step up. Jesse? I'm pretty much same on everything. The Jesse Montana. J-E-S-S-E Montana. Twitter. Instagram. Boom. Get him. Yes. Check out his new single Stuck. Do it.

This was fun. My first topic shenanigans. I felt single in LA was a good one. Your voice is sexy as hell. You as well. you can sing like amazing so yes alright I think we should go get some drinks thank you so much for having us

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