Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - The Champagne Fountain of Youth with Heather Dubrow

Episode Date: March 19, 2019

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And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, you guys? We are back. We have another real housewife sitting across from me, the gorgeous Heather Dubrow. How are you? Thank you. Hi, how are you? Good. And Janet Elizabeth here co-hosting. Okay, so I know you have like a million things to talk to Heather about. I'm a huge fan. Oh, that's so sweet. She like totally stans you. Okay, I hate to be all non-millennial, but all I keep seeing is the word stans.

I honestly don't know what it means. Okay, stan is an Eminem song where you can listen to it. It's like this really emotional Eminem song where one of his fans basically like stalks him and is like obsessed with him. So when you say you stan someone, it's like She doesn't stalk you. The fan's name was Stan. So when you say I stan someone, you're like, I'm like obsessed with them,

love them, they're my favorite. Oh my god, yeah. I'm so glad. Alright, I have one more question. Yes. What does it mean when someone writes hashtag tap tap? Oh. I think that means I don't. I think that means to like Yes. What does it mean when someone writes hashtag tap tap? Oh. I think that means. I don't. I think that means to like something. Double like?

Like a double tap? Tap tap? I don't know. But the way this chick writes it, it's the stylist and she does Katy Perry. Sweet Baby Jamie. She's a creative director of Juicy Couture. And she always writes like Katy Perry hashtag tap tap. But the way it reads to me is always like tap tap.

Like it looks sexy you know interesting i could be wrong i'm gonna have to ask my younger millennial sister okay would you please report back no she literally like i've barely been able to properly use stan in a sentence because it's like she stands you now i understand how to use it yes i feel like i'm like at like a spelling bee or something it It's like, oh, can you use it in a sentence? Because I'm like, okay, wait. But if I were to say something that I stand something, I'm like, okay.

So if I'm like, oh, my God. No, that's not the right way. I'm just like. But then the other day, I just naturally said it in a sentence. I was like, I did it right. I did it. I got it. My kids, so my two oldest ones are twins, and they're 15.

And anything I say is cringy. And if I say it's cringy, they think that's even more cringy. It's a total lose-lose. I got no game at all. Do you kind of pick up the lingo, though? Like, do you say things are lit? No, because as soon as we say that, it must be clearly over. So Terry said something to one of the kids.

It was like something AF. And I went, oh, goodness. Oh, God. No. That's so funny. But he is cring kids. It was like something AF. And I went, oh, goodness. Oh, God. No. That's so funny. But he is cringy. But that's his personality. Yeah.

So we accept that he's cringy. But I have to walk the line between being non-cringy and understanding. Love that. So thank you for the stand. That's so funny. Yes. Now, can I ask you about your eyelashes? Yeah.

Who makes your eyelashes? So these are just individuals. I did them myself this morning. You could do your own individuals? Yeah. skill my friend yes i just learned how in the last couple of months because especially with as emotional of a person as i am the strips especially with filming were always lifting on the inside or on the end and then it's like i always i still do always carry glue on me but with the individuals if of them lifts, you still have like 20 more. Yeah, it's true.

So I go on Amazon. I get elegant lashes. They're like seven bucks a box. Cool. And I do short, medium, and long flare. And then I just like I do like short and then I space them out. And then I do medium in the other spaces. And then I fill in the rest with long that you really have to practice that I get my makeup done enough that

I've like tried to like watch her do it and she really told me she was like it's all about how you hold the tweezers it's just like the way you hold it and then you just place it right there and it's so easy I never thought I could do it until i just tried once and i was like oh you were like unbelievably good at the strips though too i've seen her in a bar without a mirror do it and just stick it on she's like does it look okay i'm like it's perfect how did you do that oh i can do that without a mirror because you learn yes you just have to and that's why i have nails people i'm like no literally i can't do certain things without nails. Like my strip eyelashes, I could not do without nails. They're tools.

Even with tweezers with a strip, my nails just are that much easier. But with the individuals, you have the tweezers. You just dip it in a little bit of glue. You hold them. When you do the right ones, you hold them this way. When you do the left, you hold it this way. Backwards, yeah. I'm going to try.

Yeah. I always do my own makeup. I taught my mom how to do it. You did? So if my mom can do it, you can definitely do try. Yeah. I always do my own makeup. I taught my mom how to do it. You did? So if my mom can do it, you can definitely do it. Yeah. It was New Year's Eve or the day before New Year's Eve. And she was like, well, your sister's not going to be here and you're busy.

So like, what am I going to do about my eyelashes for the party tomorrow night? I was like, I don't know, mom. You're going to have to probably do them yourself. Lash bar? Wait a second. I go, actually, when I do the individuals on myself or when my makeup artist does them, they last for at least a week.

I'm like, I could try and do those on you. I was like, just, you know, if you're not like a crazy sleeper rubbing your eyes and whatnot, like they'll probably be fine. And so I did them for her and it was like five days later. She's like, oh my God, they're still on.

And then like one fell off and she's like, what do I do? One fell off and now she's like addicted. That's so good. I taught her. I tried the extensions once when they first came out a few years ago. But they were a little, I don't know, I didn't like it and I wear contacts. So I felt like there was like dirt in there.

Yeah. And then if one of those falls out, it's like you have a tooth missing. Yeah. It's really unattractive. And it's like with those because they're more like permanent, you can't really, you're not supposed to wear strips and other lashes with them right and also i get my nails filled every few weeks like i don't want to also have to get my eyelashes filled i know unless it's at the same time like that's just

that's too much maintenance when i can literally do it myself in 20 minutes once a week at home i hear you and you have to lay there the whole time without being able to look at your phone. No, I did an eyelash lift twice and I just had to like force myself to fall asleep because it's like knowing you can't open your eyes makes you just want to open your eyes. My daughter had that done. That was a really cool thing. Yeah.

And it was amazing. I loved how it looked after. But right when I started doing that my makeup artist started doing the individuals and I loved these but when my eyelash lift was like on point they were curled so high that the individuals like it was like they were being

placed weird it was like they weren't sticking so I'm like I would rather have these than the lift but then if I get over doing these one day then I just get the lift and it's natural and those are your real lashes and yeah I like it I love it I'm obsessed with lashes anyone who watches Vanderpump Rules doing these one day, then I just get the lift. And it's natural. And those are your real lashes. And yeah. I like it. I love it.

I'm obsessed with lashes. Anyone who watches Vanderpump Rules or any Real Housewives show knows lashes are our thing. You need them. Yeah. Alexis Blino is the one that told me. Yes. In the first season.

Because I came from scripted television. Right. So I was a makeup artist. And even though I could do my own makeup, I couldn't do my own lashes. In the first season, Alexis was like, you have to do your own lashes. You're traveling. I'm like, wow. Just try it.

She's so sweet. She's like, figure it out. And I did. I was fine with that. Yeah. So I have to know, which of the housewives do you still stay in contact with? So, I mean, not very many. I run into people a lot.

I run into, I think, other franchises more than Orange County. Is that so weird? Because I live in Orange County. But none of us really live that close. I texted with Tamara the other day. Okay. Because she had posted something about Eddie. Oh, okay.

Because he was having heart problems or whatever. So I texted with her the other day. I ran into Vicky at Mastro's like two months ago. And she said, did you hear what I said on Watch What Happens Live? And I go, no, what? And she goes, I said I want you back on my show. Oh, how lovely of her to invite her. On her show.

I invite you on her show. It's so Vicky, though. It's hilarious. It was really funny. And I see Alexis Bellino because our kids are in this theater company together. So I see her a lot. She looks fabulous. That's amazing. And I don't know. funny and and i see alexis bolino because our kids are in this theater company together so i see her a lot she looks fabulous that's amazing um and i don't know what about you and gretchen i have not seen her but like will i i see her on social media yeah and she'll comment on my

pictures did you see her gender reveal yes i was supposed to be there but we were where were we in nashville or denver i don't know we've been traveling janet and i so much and when i saw Did you see her gender reveal? Yes, I was supposed to be there, but we were, where were we, in Nashville or Denver? I don't know. We've been traveling, Janet and I, so much. And when I saw it all over Instagram, I was just like, oh, so much FOMO. That was so gorgeous. How did she do it? I missed it.

It was so cute. First of all, Michael cut. It's like the pop thing. Yeah. But it was pop. But I've seen that down for a bit. What I liked what they did was there were so many of them with the confetti poppers that it literally filled the sky.

Yeah. I love that. There were so many of them with the confetti poppers that it literally filled the sky. It was really cute. And she was wearing this really beautiful half blue, half pink kind of Grecian flowy dress. It was cool. I am so happy for her. It was so cute. She sent me a really cool like professional video they did that it like goes like fast,

but then it's like in slow-mo and it's like the music playing. That's like gender reveal goals. I love that. It was very cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's like gender reveal goals. I love that. It was very cool.

Yeah. So I'm most bummed that you're not on the season anymore, but also mostly because I can't see Chateau Dubreuil. You can. Well, I've seen all the YouTube videos. Okay. Come on. Come on.

Give me more credit for that. We were watching them last night. But I miss it on the show. But yeah, oh my God. I'm obsessed with Chateau Dubreuil. Thank you. I've seen all of the videos on YouTube of Heather's Closet. Obsessed with all of them, especially your closet with the champagne button.

Thank you. It's my goal in life now. Right? There's a flaw to it, though. Nobody answers it? Right. So it literally, it actually rings in the kitchen. So it's in my closet.

It's a doorbell. It actually rings in the kitchen. And Terry was like, so who's bringing you the champagne? I was like, hmm, is it too early to train Coco? And then sometimes someone will be over and we're lucky enough to have a chef. So people will be over and they'll want to hit the button. And a couple of times she's come up with champagne. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's amazing. I love that. Yeah, I love all the videos. What's your favorite or a couple favorite rooms in the house? And is there one that you're like, I would have done this differently or anything that you would have changed? Yeah, so right before we moved into the house, I can't remember how many bathrooms we have.

It's like 14, 15, something like that. Love that. But there's one bedroom in the – I mean, I'm from the East Coast. We call them a basement. But here it's like a subterranean. It's very fancy. That's goals. I want a basement one day.

Yes. So it's a subterranean. It's very fancy. That's goals. I want a basement one day. It's a subterranean and there's what should be like, they consider it a maid's room. If you have live-in help, which we don't. So I turned it into a music room, but it has a full bath. And so when I was thinking about it as just an extra bedroom, it was really boring. It was beige. It was boring. It was like the last bathroom I did because they're all different. And so I was out of ideas. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on it. It was beige. And then the music room turned out so cool. It's really edgy and funky. And I kept looking at that bathroom. Like, it's so boring.

So before we moved in, I did a remodel. Oh, nice. On the bathroom. And I found this really cool flocked leopard wallpaper. So it's kind of fuzzy when you touch it. Oh, it's really cool. That's cool. So I redid the bathroom. So it's cool now. So you touch it oh it's really cool and i so i redid the bathroom

so it's cool now so i love that room that um my dining room was the only room we really weren't using in the house uh and now we just started using it because i designed we have a like a wine wall but i filled it all with champagne of course yeah i'm like we have wine but isn't champagne prettier so i did it kind of as an installation we're not really drinking that champagne it's just there but i designed this thing which are like it'll you'll see it on the I'm like, we have wine, but isn't champagne prettier? So I did it kind of as an installation. We're not really drinking that champagne. It's just there. But I designed this thing, which are like, you'll see it on the YouTube channel. But it's like crystal and pale gold little boxes. It's kind of like champagne jewelry that goes in between all the rows.

Love that. It's pretty cool. But it's been made wrong three times. So yeah, Terry's about to kill me. He's like, why'd you start with this? If there's ever a doomsday, I'm coming to Chateau Dubrow. I'm going to help you with the champagne collection. It's so funny because, you know, I didn't realize that people still had this pent-up need to see the house.

Which I do understand because we were, like, building it together. And then we left the show and you didn't get to see it. Yeah. So that's why I decided to do the videos. But, you know, and you know this about social media because you get this too. You get, like, the people that love it, the people that hate it. Oh, you're so obnoxious. Why are you showing this?

And then everyone's fighting with each other. It's because we wanted to see it, that whole thing. I just feel like it's not to be showy. It's because I designed this house from the ground up. Every square inch of it. And I'm super proud of it. Everyone wants to see it. So that's why I did it.

Absolutely. And we did. We got a sneak peek on the show before everything was finished. I was like, everything looks so amazing. And then I was like, when you announced that you weren't coming back, I was like, well, when am I going to get to see her house though? Yeah. I remember seeing just like when you guys got the land.

Yeah. And like seeing what it is now. I mean. How long was the process to build from breaking ground until you guys moved in? I think it was about three years. It wasn't terrible. Yeah. This house.

So I think I've done like 12 houses since Terry and I have been together. Wow. That were either remodeled or ground up or we bought halfway through construction. But the last ground up one we did, which you saw on the show, which had the big double staircase and everything, I had this designer who was really great, but we really didn't have the same

taste. And that's why I always tell people, you have to go with your instinct. You have to go with what you like. Who cares what someone else likes? But he kept saying, oh, that's wrong. You can't do it. And then I had Terry sign every wood sample, every tile. I made him initial everything so that he... So he couldn't change

his mind later? No, so he couldn't come back and go, I never saw that. I wanted him to approve everything. And also, it was very expensive. And it was my biggest project at that time. And so we built the whole everything. And also it was very expensive. And it was my biggest project at that time. And so we built the whole thing and he hated like 30% of the house. And I never really felt like it was mine. I liked it. I thought it was pretty, but it didn't feel like me.

So when he bought this lot and didn't tell me, I said, I will build this house, but I'm building it. You have no say. I'm not having you sign anything because I figured the algorithm would be about the same and he'd hate 30% of it. He loves it. There's not a portion he doesn't love. He loves the whole thing. Except the champagne wall because it's not working. Yeah. So, okay. How many square feet is your house? About 22,000. If your kids are in one end and you're in the other, do you call each other or do you have an intercom? No, there's no intercom. Okay. They call and they text. But by the way, they're so obnoxious, they'll do it if they're

in the next room. That's just kids. I mean, I do that too. I mean, my mom's house is not that big and I mean, sometimes, you know, if we're in different, or if I'm outside

and I'm laying out and she's inside and I like want a drink or something, I'm like, hey, you text her. You text her. But the other thing is the house doesn't have

a hundred rooms. It's got the normal amount of rooms. They're just bigger. Yeah. So, and it's an open house. So like if I yell, they can hear me. But what I hate is mom, mom, mom. It starts at their bedroom and it's all the way through the house. And I just sit there. I don't even answer. Yeah. They can come to me. Yeah. That's amazing. So you have your podcast here. Yeah. You guys have so many things. You have a skincare line.

Yes. Okay. Tell me about that. So Terry and I actually have been doing skincare, if you can believe it, for like 18 years. I believe it. Terry's in surgery. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. So Terry- I mean, look at their skin. Yeah. I just turned 50. Can you believe it? What? No, actually, I cannot believe that.

No. I did. And no surgery. And I do not get fillers. You? No, actually, I cannot believe that. No. I did. And no surgery. And I do not get fillers. You don't do filler? No. Come on. No.

I do filler. I don't do filler because I just don't. I did it once like, I don't know, 10 years ago. And I hated it on me. I have good cheekbones. That's what I was going to say. Those are just your real cheekbones? These are my real cheekbones.

That's not fair. The only thing that I do is I do a little Botox. And then when I get really thin, and this happens to all of us as we age, we get a little skeletal. Yes. There's a thing called Sculptra. It's not a filler. Okay.

It was actually created for AIDS patients because it regrows your own collagen. Interesting. So where you get really hollow, and you don't think of this, you guys are really young, so you don't have this. No, I've literally put filler there. In your temples? Yeah. Interesting. So where you get really hollow and you don't think of this, you guys are really young so you don't have this. No, I've literally put filler there. In your temples? Yeah. In the hollows of your cheeks? Yeah. So if I get super thin I'll put a little there and there and what

it is, it's kind of like, if you think of it as fertilizer it's like water with this sculpture stuff and then it goes away and it regrows. It stimulates your own collagen growth. So that's what I use it for but I don't like fillers I you know everyone always says when I smile my top lip disappears I have I just it's not me I'm not saying I never do it and I'm not judging anyone that likes it that's

fabulous but it's just I don't know maybe I feel too cliche like being married to a plastic surgeon in living orange county I don't have breast implants. I just, I'm just going with it. Yeah. Well, whatever you're doing or not doing, it's clearly working. I drink a lot. I feel like I'm kind of pickling myself. I love that you've drank champagne for so long and that you look like this. I'm going to say that that's my secret now. Yeah. And I eat a lot too, which people don't believe, but I, I love to eat. Same with me. It's like, if you're a thin person, it's like you just automatically don't eat. I love to eat. Same with me. It's like if you're a thin person it's like you just automatically don't eat. I'm like if you knew how much I ate. I ate more than any of my friends.

But anyway so Terry had written this book called The Acne Cure 18 years ago or something. Which is funny because it has to do with the house too. So we were on this hike in Crystal Cove which is next door to where we live now in El Morro Canyon. And we were on this hike and we were talking about the book and I came up with a product based on his acne book.

But it was freezing benzoyl peroxide. I wanted to call it the pimple pop. And then we ended up calling it freeze it. And we had an infomercial. And that's how, honestly, that's how Consol Beauty, the whole thing was born. But what was funny was on that hike, we were like, you know, you daydream and you go, oh, we're going to do this and we're going to do that. And we'd only been married for two years or something.

And we were looking over at the section where our house is now and nothing was there. It wasn't built at all. And we were talking about the pimple pop and the whole thing and how one day we'd build the pimple pop palace. Oh, my gosh. It was so funny. And then, I mean, six months ago we were hiking up up there. And I go, you know what's crazy? We built the Pimbleball Palace. Look at that.

I love that. Isn't that so funny? So anyway, so we've been doing different sort of iterations of the skincare over the years. And then, I don't know, five years ago, we met up with these new chemists and this partner that we partnered up with. And he was like, what are you guys working on? And we're like, well, this is what we have. And he's like, well, I've got these chemists that can do this. And we're like, well, that's what we want to do, but we want to do this.

Anyway, we started collaborating, and that's how Consul Beauty started. So we actually are having our four-year anniversary at the Evine Shopping Channel next weekend. Love that. Amazing. Yeah, it's been pretty cool. And then we launched Consul Health. So it's all about the internal, external approach to beauty. We do supplements.

We do lotions and potions. We do drinkable collagen. We do everything. And what we try to do is see what's out there in the world and take products and make them better. Like drinkable collagen, for instance. I've heard all about this. This is like the new thing everybody swears by. Yeah, and there's a lot of drinkable collagen out there.

But the problem is if it's not hydrolyzed, it gets eaten up by your stomach acids and it does nothing. Oh, okay. If you pour it in water and it dissolves really fast, there's no collagen in it. It kind of has to be clumpy. You've got to put it in a shaker bottle and shake it so it's not gross. Yeah. But that's the truth or else you're not getting anything from it. So Terry's got the science.

I've got the practicality. And that's how we create products and doing it for a long time. It's, it's fun. We do, we're going to be doing 20 hours live next week. Oh, wow. That's a lot. So what are, what are your top few favorite consult beauty products? Huh? Oh, that's like, you know, Sophie's choice, man. Um, well on the health side of things, we have these chocolate chews that reduce cholesterol. Oh, okay. Which are amazing. It's a plant sterol, and they've been life-changing, not just for my family, but for, like, thousands

and thousands of people. Amazing. We always just sell out of those. Our Champagne Lift Body Cream is epic. Okay, ordering that, obviously. Oh, my God. We need that. It lifts and tones and tightens, but it really does.

I love that. I mean, honestly, you can see my arm skin. This is all I use. Yeah, it's not 50. No. You get the snap back and everything. But you know what? Anyone can put a cream on their body.

That's why we don't make a hydrating cream. You can buy that anywhere. You go to Rite Aid and get a moisturizing lotion. So everything that we do is trying to replace like a plastic surgery procedure or something you get in a doctor's office. So we have, you know, things to plump, things to lift, things to tighten. What are the things to plump? That sounds fun. We have volumogens. So it's marine collagen and hyaluronic acid filling spheres that go in a dehydrated state after the top layers of your skin. And it uses your own moisture from your body to plump up your skin oh okay but i mix and match all of like i'll use a little volumagen we've got

regenerol which is our retinol products our champagne lift lined i use it i layer everything so we need everything yeah you need to buy it all i'll send you guys some stuff there was this one i can't think of what it's called right now there There was this thing I used to do and I always have to reference this. I don't have plastic surgery, but a plastic surgeon does my Botox. But at his office it was almost like an ultrasound type of machine, but it was

a little heated, but it helped bring back the collagen. There's a few, but I can't think of what it's called. There's like Ulthera and there's NDMed, there's all different kinds of lasers. I'm terrified of lasers and all that stuff because my skin is so sensitive and I'm allergic to everything. That's why we say we don't test on animals. I'm the only guinea pig because if I can use it, basically anyone.

I'm allergic to all hair dye and it's been really bad. Wow. Because I'm getting the grays and my natural hair color is actually lighter than this. It's more like a lighter brown but there's only one color on the planet that I can use and it's one color. Dark. That's what it's called. Wow.

So we're not going to see you blonde anytime soon. Oh my god, I'd be the ugliest blonde ever. No way. Oh yeah. You could pull off anything. Yes. Oh, my God. I'd be the ugliest blonde ever. No way. Oh, yeah. You could pull off anything. Yes. No, cannot go blonde. Have you ever done a wig? Oh, yeah.

Those are fun. For shows and, you know, doing musical theater and all that. Honestly, my first job in California was I sang at the Golden Horseshoe at Disneyland, and I had a huge blonde wig. I love that. I was at Disney last night, actually. I'm there all the time. I have an annual pass and we were looking at all of the princesses and I was like oh my god those wigs. Like when you're just like walking by and you see like them from afar like it you don't see

what a big wig it is but it's like those big curls and like. Oh yeah and the departments that handle all those wigs and everything it's crazy yeah totally oh you must get mobbed at disneyland um it depends on the day some days it's crazy it's just like one after another and then especially when one person notices then it just like is like a domino effect but then there are some days if i have a hat sunglasses and like a hood on and i'm like walking around with a bunch of people who have never been on the show I I'm just a small Brunette who kind of blends I'm like dime a dozen so yeah that's what I think what I think of you dime a dozen I'm like that's what comes to mind I'm like I've never been to Disneyland where nobody has recognized you I think one of the first times we went was right after I moved out here and

someone came running like we could hear them like up behind us and I was like oh my god we're about to get jumped and they're like oh no they just want to stop I mean the Incredicoaster line definitely got held up for a couple minutes yesterday and I was like oh my god no oh oh no yes can't go without we're not we're not making housewife money by the way I didn't make that money either. No, I saw Jack, Stassi, and Katie just recently did that and got a greeter. But I thought it was, like, really expensive. It's very expensive. See, and as much as even if, like, I could afford it and wanted to do it, I have to find people to go with me who would also do that,

or I just have to pay for them. Which is a hassle. It's very expensive. But with kids, it's, like, a must. No, with kids, I can't even imagine trying to, oh, and waiting in line. And also imagine waiting in line and having people take pictures with you while your kids are there. And then you feel rude, but you don't want to be rude to your kids. And it's like a whole thing.

But once you go greeter, you never go back. It's the best thing ever. I can't do it because then I'll never be able to go back to normal. It's so true. I'm taking two of my kids to, we have an event to go to in Florida, so I'm taking them to Orlando for a couple days. Oh, fun. First, because it's their spring break.

And the greeters there are even more expensive than here at Disneyland. Oh, wow. Really? Yes. So, do they take you to the front of every line? Yes, and a lot of times they take you up the exit. Okay, that's amazing. Okay, expensive, how expensive?

Okay, it depends seasonally. So, like, we're going high peak because it's spring break time. And I think it's 500 and change an hour with a seven hour minimum. That's what it was. Yes. I heard it was 800.

But when I was thinking about it the other day and I was like, wait, I was like, was it only $800 a person a day? Because I'm like, that actually, I mean, yes, to the average person, that is a lot of money. And that's how much my annual pass costs. Right. But I'm like, I could probably wrangle a few friends who for $800 a day could just splurge and do that.

I forgot it's per hour. But you get up to 10 people. So if you were taking... Each person has to pay that? No. Oh. So that's for up to 10 people. I believe it's 10 people.

So you could get a group together and just split it all, like if it's a special occasion. Seven hour minimum. Seven hour minimum. But it can vary. It could be 250 an hour. It could be 800 an hour. You just don't know. You have to call and find out.

If we had 10 people, that's $350 a person for the day. I mean, that's expensive. But I mean, to splurge for a fun thing. Yeah, but if you're buying even like a two-day park hopper, that's pretty much what you're paying anyway. Wait, you still have to buy the tickets, though. Well, I have an annual pass. Right, but your friends don't.

True. Most of my friends do, actually. They just all have the really cheap SoCal one and have a lot of blackout tickets. I was going to say, then they can never go anyway. Can I go? Eh. Can I go here? Eh. We have to just like, but it's actually better because with that pass, it's just like blackout days on the weekends and no one wants to go

on the weekends anyways. So it's like, yeah, we usually go midweek. See, I'm not that user friendly. I mean, I am and I'm not. When we go to a park like that, I want to do a marathon. I want to get there early. I want to want to do a marathon i want to get there early i want to spend the entire day i want to be there at night i want to see the fireworks and then i don't want to come back for like a year yeah yeah see him with having the annual pass like yesterday we

got there at like 2 30 and they closed at 9 so we were there from like 2 30 to 8 there were a few rides we didn't get to do we're like we'll just come back in a few weeks but it's like when you don't have the annual pass and it's especially when you have kids. Yeah. And it's like you want to make a full day out of it and do everything. With me, I'm just like, eh, Space Mountain's under construction. We'll come back. That's why we used to have passes a few years ago when the kids were younger.

But then I got rid of them because that's when I realized. I'm like, I like a marathon day. Because I have girlfriends that'll just pop there for two hours. Yeah. Like, they'll just go in the morning. Yeah. And they'll do a few rides with the kids and have lunch and then leave. I'm like, that's crazy.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to have to look into this greeter thing if I can find some friends to splurge with me. Your birthday's coming up. Oh. I would splurge for your birthday. When's your birthday?

That would be fun. May 7th. That's so exciting. Big three, four. Yeah. I don't know if that's a big year. I was going to say, is it big? I don't know if that's a big year. I was going to say,

is it big? I don't know. It's just, it's getting older is what it is. I'm now officially entering my mid thirties. Does that bother you? No, actually I froze my eggs.

Right. You told me that. Yeah. I'm going to do it again this summer. Cause we only got nine and that is just, that does not seem like anything to me. So I'm going to do it again. But,

um, no getting older i actually embrace it like i am not in a point in my life where i'm like oh my god i need to settle down i need to have kids i need i'm just like i'm living my life and i feel like i look younger than i am so you look great thank you but so it's like the vein part of me is like i'm good aging but then like the life part of me i'm just like i'm in such a good place right now that it's not giving me anxiety getting older. I just – I like to make jokes about it. Isn't that what it's all about though?

Yeah. I mean it is. I've never cared about the number. Like I remember friends freaked out when they turned 30. They freaked out when they turned 40. Whatever. I just never did. I always felt like, like you're saying, if I'm in a good spot and I feel good about where I am, I'm fine. This girl DM'd me last night and I rarely check my like 99 plus requests, but sometimes I do.

And I like to read them. Yeah. So I started when I was freezing my eggs, I started checking all of them and now I've just kind of gotten in the habit and I saw it was like, I'm 29 and like getting divorced or something. So I opened it up and I read it and she was just like you know like how did you do it like you were like about my age when you got married and divorced and like I'm terrified of being single at 29 I was like honey I'm almost 34 and I'm single and I'm divorced and like just you're not that old like don't worry about there's so many things like you can freeze your eggs and there's so many things that you can do so you don't feel like I'm getting so old and I have to have this as a woman in life. Right.

So for those reasons, I like reading my DMs because now I'm in a conversation with her. And it's like I like giving advice to people because that's the whole thing about reality TV is it's our real lives. And, like, people relate to us and what we're going through. And I'm just like, if I could help one person by sharing my story and giving a little advice, then like, I'm literally actually doing my job. Right. So let me ask you this. When you go to your 99 plus, this is what freaks me out a little bit. So I try to reply to as many as I can. And you know, sometimes as you know, when it's on your Instagram feed, there's lots of comments and you can't really respond to every single one, but I do read them because I try to, you know, sometimes, as you know, when it's on your Instagram feed, there's lots of comments. You can't really respond to every single one.

But I do read them because I try to, you know, see what's going on. If there's something that really needs to be answered. But when I hit that plus 99, sometimes it'll say like, allow to tap to see it. You know, like an image. But I get scared. I don't want to tap on it. Because what if it's like a penis? Right.

Then it's a penis. I mean. Have you had that happen before? I actually haven't yet, but I've had some friends who that's happened to. That's happened to me and I have no followers. How has that not happened to you? I don't know, but it's not even a dick pic that's really worrying me. It's more like something violent or something mean.

I remember one year when I was on Housewives, they were sending the meanest pictures of me like I was the mother from Coraline. And they would make that would be me. Oh, they made me like the Joker. I've been made the Joker, too. Really? Yes, people always say I look like the Joker. Kelly Dodd said I have the Joker recently.

Are we over Kelly Dodd? Did you not see what happened with me and her? I mean, I did on the show. No. Oh, no. In real life. Did you not see this? No.

You'll enjoy this story let me tell you is it juicy I'm excited yeah well I put this all out on social media this is not and people have interviewed me

about it but here's here's the story okay so I work out at Orange Theory oh yes I've heard part of this I was like I heard you guys

were running into each other but I didn't hear what happened okay but I have to scroll it back a little okay so about I don't know a year and a half

I don't even know how long ago it was. Like a year and a half ago, Kelly went on Watch What Happens Live and she said something about Terry. Like that he kills people. What? Right. Okay. So, not true. Obviously. This has never happened. But you know what? Look. You know, doctors, sometimes things

happen. Absolutely. But it's usually the anesthesiologist, not the doctor. There's all kinds of things. Terry has a really huge practice as a medical legal expert for the state of California. Yeah. So I've kind of heard it all. Right. Because he represents, you know, defends the doctors and whatnot. So I've kind of heard it all.

And even in the best of hands, sometimes things can happen. Right. But anyway, this has not happened to Terry. Thank God. Knock on wood. And she said this. And Terry was like, are you kidding me? And of course, Evolution does Botched and produces Botched and Terry was like are you kidding me and of course Evolution does botched

and produces botched and Real Housewives and so Terry called Alex and was like dude you gotta shut this down so she tweeted something out like oh I misunderstood the question I'm not really sure what the question could have been to have that answer but she said I misunderstood the question whatever

so end of story and it's not like we're gonna sue her we're not litigious people. I would. And what's it going to do anyway? Yeah. Anyway, so then I ran into her at Orange Theory and she came up to me and she said something like, hey, you know, I'm sorry about what I said. And I said, why would you do?

I can't remember what I said, but it was something my friend Sarah was doing with me. And I was like, either why did you do that? Why the fuck would you do, I can't remember what I said, but it was something, my friend Sarah was standing with me. And I was like, I like either, why did you do that? Why the fuck would you do that? I wasn't yelling, but I was talking to her like that was totally uncool. He's a doctor. We're not even on the show anymore. Why are you bugging him? That kind of thing.

And she said something to me like, you know, it took a lot for me to come over and talk to you. I could have just, you know, slipped out of the door, but I wanted to come and just apologize. And I said, you know what? I really appreciate that. Thank you for doing it. Just don't talk about us. Great. No problem. Done. She leaves

and a few minutes later she tweets something like, what a great couple. What great people. Just spoke to Heather. We're good. So I think we're done. Okay. Okay. Cut to, this might have even been like two years ago. Anyway, cut to this past December.

I'm at the gym with the same friend, Sarah. So she can tell you that I was not yelling at Kelly. Oh. So we were at the gym and we were leaving and it was Hanukkah. This is why I know it was December because Sarah was coming over. So we walk out of the gym and we're standing like on the sidewalk there and we're talking. Having this conversation. I never usually linger after the gym, but I don't know.

We were just talking. Well, then I go, you know what? I'm going to see you tonight. Whatever. Blah. Get in my car, and I leave. That night, I'm dressed. I'm cooking latkes.

I'm in my kitchen. It's the one time a year I cook. The kids are running around. We have friends over. It's fun. And Sarah comes in. She goes, did you see? And I go, what?

What? Where's the fire? What's going on? And she was like, oh, never mind. I'm like, you can't do that. Oh, no. She goes, did you see? And I go, what? What? Where's the fire? What's going on? And she was like, oh, never mind. I'm like, you can't do that. Oh, no. She goes, oh, okay. She goes, Kelly Dodd filmed us today outside the gym.

And I go, what? So she shows it to me. And basically she does this three-part thing on her Instagram story where she's filming us standing there and saying things like, I'm a bitch, and why won't I leave, and she wants to get her workout. She's saying my name very clearly, calling me names, the whole thing. Oh, my God. And it's like this three-part thing. Now, not to be all Oliver Stone conspiracy theory, but just so you know, because I've seen the video,

we were standing past the door, and my back was to her car. She very easily could have walked in and i never would have seen her yeah but she clearly wanted to make a thing of it wanted me to see it of course so i obviously talked about it on my podcast saying how ridiculous yeah and of course this grown woman sitting in her car filming me because she's scared to have to say hello like that's gonna make it better right understand the last time we had an encounter was the thing i just explained to i haven't seen it since so i talk about the show and then she starts tweeting that um i yelled at her at the gym and called me skeletor and joker face what yes she's canceled yeah i was like i feel like she belongs on vanderpump rules instead of real house

wives but to be honest with you, it made me laugh. Like, I mean, how do you not laugh? I wasn't mad. And it was funny when I ran into Vicky that time. I was telling you at Masters. She's like, did you see what Kelly did about you on her Instagram? I'm like, yeah, it was funny. It was something to talk about.

It's silly. It's dumb. I mean, it made me feel a little sad for her. But, you know, whatever. For her. For her. And then she started tweeting about me that I'm thirsty, like as if I want. I'm like, you started this.

You were like, and I walked away from the show that you're on. Yeah. So, you know. And also, exactly, I've been off the show two years. Do you really need content this badly? Pick on someone else. Yeah. Right.

Was she part of your decision to leave the show? I would say that the trend of the show wasn't really what I was interested in doing. I felt like the season that she came on, it went from – she sort of like crossed a line that had never been crossed in OC before. Like even just some of the words and names she was calling people, I was like, wow, they've never, you know, dropped the C word before until this season and things like that. And I can understand as like a mother and stuff why you wouldn't want to be associated with that. It was a really difficult, that last season was, and you know, we all have good seasons and bad seasons.

And I had both in my five years. But that season personally was just very difficult for me because it was five years on the show and I felt like you know going from a scripted actress to then having my kids and then doing this I feel like what am I doing with my life like what is this my end game is this gonna be right my last moment and although I'm so honestly really grateful for everything that I did for my family and for me and the platform and I really do have fond memories with the girls it It was just, it was time. It was just time. And, and, and I think, I mean, I haven't watched the show since I left, so I don't know, but if that was the direction they were going in, I really didn't

fit on the show anymore. So I can see that. So many of the questions that we got today for you were like, what can we do to get you back? And like, I mean, so many people that miss you, would you ever go back? Or would you do like Beverly Hills instead of OC? So, you know, I've known Lisa Rinna for like 20 years. Yeah. We used to be in acting class together.

And I don't know Denise, but I met her at an audition weirdly years ago before she got on the show. Oh my God. I know. And she was really into housewives. I think it's so cool. She's on. I love it.

I know Kyle. I love her. I, you know, I've met Lisa Vanderpump many times. Really love her too. Um, yeah, I love her. You know, I've met Lisa Vanderpump many times. I really love her, too. Yeah, I think all those girls are very cool. What I like about that cast is they genuinely have very strong ties and relationships.

Yes. And they're very ensconced in their city, which I also think is so important. Like, I think the same thing about Atlanta. Yeah. You know, it doesn't feel obscure. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Right.

And it's so funny, because before I went on Orange County, everyone, all of the girls in, you know, that I knew who watched it would always say, we don't feel like we're represented. Like, that's not all of Orange County. Interesting. Like, where's the us? And so, you know, I guess I brought something a little bit different to it. Would I ever go back? I mean, you can never say never.

Of course. Because then I'll look like an asshole. Yeah. No, I'm never going back. And I'm like, so what I decided to do. But I don't really see it. I mean, my kids are now 15, 15, 12, and 8. Wow.

And when they were really little. Oh, my God. That's crazy. They're so grown up. So when they were really little, Oh my God, that's crazy. They're so grown up. So when they were really little, you know, they'd run in the room, they'd laugh, they'd say something cute, and they'd leave. In high school, you know, it's not just a decision for myself. Totally.

And again, no judgment on people that want to open their lives up, because I think that's a good choice too. But for me, I feel like at this point, they need their privacy. And as their mom, I need to be a little more protective, which sometimes is a problem on my podcast because I basically have diarrhea in the mouth. I like to talk about everything. Yeah. But I do have a line, especially with my teenagers, where I will talk about them if I feel like, first of all, it's just funny or if it might help people or open up a conversation that people aren't having. just funny or if it might help people or open up a conversation that people aren't having.

But if it's super private, obviously, you know, health things or, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend, I try to keep that, you know, on the down low. Yeah, definitely. Well, I feel like, I mean, just outside of the show, you have obviously so many business ventures that it's like, you know, right now you don't have time for that anyways. Yeah. And okay. So I saw when I was Googling you before this, um, you and Terry got married in 1999. So you're celebrating a 20 year anniversary.

When is that? It is June 5th. And do you guys have anything fabulous planned? So what I did was, but don't come stands us. Did I say it right? Maybe not your kids somewhere rolling around. I'll work on that. I promise. Mom, there she goes with her stands. The hotel we got married in, which is the Beverly Hills Hotel, I actually got the suite, which is the big suite one. I can't remember the number, but it's this huge suite.

And that's the one we stayed in on our wedding night. And so I booked that for our actual anniversary. That is amazing. And then what we're doing is we're going with another couple and we're going to the south of France to Champagne and to Paris. That is a dream.

Is that the best trip ever? Speaking Janet's language. I know, right? I'm so, so excited. That sounds fabulous. It's funny because we've been together 22 years and everyone's always like,

you know, what's the secret and the whole thing? And I think the fact that you have to have things you do together. Yeah. For us, it's not hobbies. It's work, which sounds so crazy. Like, that shouldn't be the thing you do together.

But Terry has his deal. And then I have my deal. I have my things that I do. But together, you know, we wrote our next book came out. Yes. In October, The Dubrow Diet. That did really well. We're having so much fun creating things together.

Yeah. And it's like you both had your own shows. You obviously do the show together but then you have your podcast together. You have your book together. You have the skincare line together. That's such like ultimate couples goal to have so many businesses together like that.

What's so funny is we're on Evide and like I said we'll do between 15 and 20 hours live in a weekend. So in a typical day we'll do 7 or eight hours. It's a lot of talking because you're talking the entire time. Yeah. And then we never talked about it, but we have this thing where we get in the car. We have a driver.

We get in the car afterwards, and we just don't talk for a moment of silence. Four or five minutes. It's just we get in the car. We shut the doors. I always have Tic Tacs. He always has gum. Tic Tac gum. We sit there four minutes, and then one of us goes, so anyway.

And then we just keep going. Yeah. I love that. What would you say is your favorite business venture that y'all have done together so far? I think the Dubrow diet has been – that's been the most fun, I think, of late because we didn't really intend to write a diet book. We were trying to figure out what our next book was going to be. And this is, you know, a few years ago. And we to write a diet book. We were trying to figure out what our next book was going to be. And this is a few years ago. And we started eating a certain way.

We started talking about intermittent fasting, which sounds like skinny, tired people. So I was like, I'm not fasting. And he's like, when did you eat yesterday? And I told him. He's like, when did you eat? And so I started working on this. And then I was posting bikini shots. And Terry's all shredded.

And I would never have posted bikini shots and, and Terry's all shredded and I would never have posted bikini pictures of me at 30 ever. Oh, I feel like I look better than I've ever looked. And I'm telling you, it's the way we eat. Oh, absolutely. I carb cycle. Yeah. I wanted to ask about this cause she knows I can't have carbs on certain days.

Yeah. So she like won't hang out with me on non-carb days. That is so funny. Yeah. Well you should, I'm going to send you a copy of the book. Okay. Because you should really just look at it just for – because you're into health and fitness and all that. Totally.

It's really interesting about the intervals that you're eating in because if you think about hunter and gatherer times, they didn't snack all day long. Yeah. They had one meal and they had to go find that meal when they were hungry. Oh my God. That's such a good point. So when you're hungry, you get a burst of energy because it's like you get that instinct. You have to go find food. Yeah. So it's counterintuitive, but you actually have more energy than you've ever – like,

I don't even know what time it is right now, but I haven't eaten since last night. Oh, wow. I don't drink caffeine. Uh-huh. And if you look up the science of autophagy, which is a Nobel Prize winning thing that this is based on, that it makes your skin tighter. It gives you energy. It makes your hair grow thicker. It's all these great anti-aging benefits along with keeping your body thin, keeping it at the right weight.

And we teach you how to cheat because I eat and I like to eat crap. Yeah. And I want to be able to do it. So we actually teach you how to cheat in the program. I love that. I love this. Yeah. Because it's got to be not – I think all diets work.

When I was in college, I gained like the freshman 40 or something. And I went on every diet imaginable. And they all work, but they're not sustainable. Right. Right. So that's why – I think doing that has been the most fun thing because when we were testing it before the book came out we had 100 people on a face private facebook group a page and they all lost between 30 and 90 pounds wow that's amazing and we took one of the couples

with us on these e-news segments that we do and you really got to follow their journey and greg i mean he's lost almost 100 pounds i mean mean it's wow but his their whole lives changed absolutely you have control over your body and you feel better and have more energy you're better for yourself you're better for your partner you're better for your kids just better totally it must work because you have so much going on I don't know how you do all of it and so well yeah I try you know it's not always perfect there's the you know the the balance that I'm always trying to reach sometimes I do well sometimes not so much my eight-year-old is now

coming in my bed at night oh it's so not cute we think it's cute cuz we don't have eight-year-olds girl yeah I'm over it everyone's like aren't you gonna miss it when that period times are like I'm like, yeah, no. I like just sleeping with Terry. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. I don't think I'll have any kids crawling in my bed anytime soon. You have time.

Yes, plenty of time. And that's the thing with even freezing my eggs. I'm like, well, what if I'm 43 and I'm too old to carry a baby or there's something wrong with my uterus? You're not. But what if I still have my eggs on ice that a surrogate can carry for me? So I can still have my own kid and there's no rush, no pressure to like settle down or anything like that. I so I am so excited about this and I can talk about it now because there was a preview on the other night.

I did Hollywood Medium this year. Oh, we did that? Yes. I think we were his first read on his first season. Really? Yes. Oh my god. Do you love him? Incredible. Like literally life changing and it's been like killing me that I haven't been able to talk about this yet. And then the other night I watched the preview and it was like, this season on

Hollywood Medium and I'm like, there's no way I made it in like the top ten celebs like who are on this show this season. And I did. And I was like, like oh my god i was like sheena shea and it showed it but every single thing he said to date so far has come true or been validated really and the one thing when i had asked him i was like okay i want to know like love career like health like all that and he was like okay health he told me i was like subject to get bronchitis around december last year and if i got a cough to like treat it immediately i hadn't been sick in over a year and it was like i started to get a little sick in december like multiple times that i kept like pseudofed and then this and that and like it never hit me it was so crazy

and then um he said career he said that fitness was going to be really big for me. And I had no idea at the time when we filmed this that my trainer was writing an e-book about me that hit number one on Amazon the first day we put it out in health and fitness. Did he cut you into that? Yeah. We collabed on it. We just did like our first book signing. It was so much fun. So cute. But it was so crazy because like these things and then I was like love and he was like and I was like wait why are you laughing at me like and he was

like no no no no he goes any man coming into your life right now is just going to be nothing but a distraction he goes you have a career that is taking off right now you're just focused on your fitness focus on empowering women he goes 2019 to 2020 he goes that's when you can worry about love so in the back of my head still i even have that that i'm like i the next six months of my life i pretty much already have not necessarily planned out but i'm assuming we're picked up for a season eight so there goes my summer right spring we have like four more trips planned already so i'm like i'm busy until september already so i'm, he's so right. Like, I don't even have time to try and settle down even if I wanted to until like 2020.

That's so cool. And you're leaving tomorrow, aren't you? Tomorrow. Yeah. Are you packed? No. Not at all? No, I'll pack tomorrow.

We're taking a red eye. So, but what if you like are, all right, you got to tell me how you pack. Because I am kind of an epic packer. And I've gotten really good. You won't do this for this trip, but I'm really good. I can travel almost anywhere with a carry-on. Wow. I can if it's for a certain amount of days.

Four days or under. Right. Yes, I can do that. Yeah. But this is what I want to know. So when I pack, I pull out a rack in my closet. And I start picking my outfits by like, I'll like write out day, night, see what I'm doing, do all the outfits.

And then I lay everything out with all the accessories and the shoes and I take pictures of everything. That's so organized. Because that way, and then I organize it. If I, if it's like a four day trip and especially if it's press or something and I know exactly what I'm doing, I have them in order. Ah. So I know exactly what I'm wearing. Do you want to come pack for us?

Yeah, no, you're giving me packing anxiety. I just pick a bunch of things and I'm like, this will go with this and then I just put it all in there. I can't. It makes me crazy. I need to know because then if I do that, I end up with so much extra just-in-case clothes and then I end up over-packing or not having the right things. So I've gotten really good

at streamlining, but then I always take a stretchy black dress. Always have to have a stretchy black dress. My go-to over the knee boots no matter what time of year I will always bring over the knee boots because even for a nightclub in the summer over the knee boots. I have a pair of strappy black heels that I

always bring because no matter what outfit I wear they go with it as a clear toe and a black strap. But for this trip I haven't even started thinking about it yet. But like even bikinis. So you're obviously going to go to the beach, right? So, and I require a little more lifting and pulling and finagling these days. But I like to try on the bikinis before I go.

Because sometimes those will fit well this trip. And sometimes those won't. Or this looks better. You know, because your body just fluctuates a little bit. And I always just throw like 15 in the bag and I'm like, one of these will work. That's what I used to do, but then I feel like I have so much extra

and it gives me agita. I just, I hate trying on clothes. Like I order everything online and if they don't fit, I just give it to my sister. That's so funny. But I do, the one thing I'm very anal about, had my mom like send me every time i pack i'm like mom send me a list so like things i don't forget and i finally was just like why don't i just save this list in my phone so i have my airport checklist what's the list it's oh my gosh

there's so many do you bring wipes on the plane i bring wipes yes you have to wipe everything down including the seatbelt. Yes. I even do the headrest. And then I take the pillow and wipe it off. Why have I never thought about the seatbelt? Got to do the seatbelt. Yeah, I've never thought about that either.

I always think tray table. And the screen. And the tray table. The button to push your seat back. I do the whole common areas. And then I do. Adding this to the list. Do you know the little thing to turn on the air up there?

Oh, yeah. Do that, too. That's the most disgusting knob ever. And, you know, it used to be the school of thought was to not have the air blow because people thought it was like recycled air and you were going to get sick. The opposite is true. You want the air blowing on you to blow things away. Okay, interesting.

I read that recently. Yeah, everyone's warned us that on the plane we're going to get sick on the way to Sydney and Japan. I know. Why? Because everyone has said that the medication out there isn't what it is here. And like to bring like extra like Dayquil and Sudafed and like all the stuff you can't get there. I always travel with Advil.

I travel with a Diflucan. Yeah. I travel with, you know, like what else do I travel with? And I usually have all of that too. I always have like Sudafed, Azo. Like you never know. But do you bring like Diflecan if you have a yeast infection or that's a pill? No, I usually just have Azo just in case.

What's Azo? It's for like if you get like a UTI. Right. So I have UTI stuff. Okay. I have that stuff. Yeah. I'll bring an antibiotic.

I normally bring a Z-Pak with me. Anytime I'm in Mexico, I'll go to a pharmacy and get like six Z-Paks and bring them back. It's so smart. It's so good to – All right. Yeah. All right. I want to do this.

Okay. So the top of my list, if you've seen any episodes of Vanderpump Rules when we're on a trip, my love frog, it's this little stuffed animal that I travel with. My best friend, long story short, from like childhood since we were like in kindergarten, she passed away from cancer when we were 23. And this was like the last thing that she had given me. It's this little frog prince. And I was like single and depressed.

And it was like my depression when she's going through cancer was nothing. So it was just like, you know, I'm going to get my little frog prince one day. Still haven't found him. But he travels the world with me. So that's top of my list. Medication, glasses, contacts, makeup, wipes, solution, hair ties, tampons, deodorant, toothbrush, chargers, Mophies, adapters, computer, speaker. If I'm going somewhere cold, beanies, gloves, scarves, underwear, bras, sleep clothes, sweats,

leggings, socks, shirts, jackets, shoes, slides, boots, and bathing suits. I think that's... Your mom has no faith that you'll remember anything is what this tells me did you forget your passport oh no that's always in my bag that is my carry on bag even if you keep it in there

I do because even if I'm just like going to New York like I mean or wherever I mean I had it when we were in Nashville I'm like what if like I lose my ID I mean granted I'm fortunate that I could Google myself and probably talk my way through TSA and I have clear, but what if you had to suddenly flee the country? I don't know. I just always bring my passport with me. That's hilarious. And then I leave it in the safe in the hotel room whenever I travel. I never leave it in my bag, but it's always just there. So I never forget it.

So you have to look up country to country because some places will tell you, do not leave your passport in the safe. Yeah. Because they'll steal it. Yeah, to always keep it on your person. Also, in certain countries, you want to make sure, like you're saying, if something happens, you can't go back to your hotel, you want to be able to go. So I think you should carry it with you.

I think we should wrap this up up and I need to go pack. Have the best time. Will you take me with you, please? Yes, if you want to come meet us or if you want to meet me in Fiji. She doesn't want to go anymore. By the way, I would go in a heartbeat. I have like 27 children. Thank you so much for doing this.

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