Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - The Mindset Mentor with Rob Dial

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

This week Scheana and co-host Brock are joined by Rob Dial, also known as the Mindset Mentor. A few weeks ago, Scheana and Brock did an episode called “Less Stress with Brock Davies” where they recapped a podcast they found super useful by Rob Dial, and this week, he’s decided to join them as a guest on Scheananigans! Rob talks about how he got in touch with Scheana and Brock, his educational background and how he got to where he is today. Rob shares some amazing tips on some key habits that people can start incorporating right now to make their days more efficient, where fear comes from and how to change your mindset to welcome abundance into your life. It all starts with believing you deserve everything you desire. During the interview, Scheana shares a fear that she just realized has been holding her back in life and how she is working on pushing through it. Tune in to find out what it is! Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana @robdialjrSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up everyone? We are back getting into some shenanigans and I'm so excited for this episode. We've got Brock co-hosting and going back to a couple of weeks ago, we kind of recapped a podcast that we both enjoy listening to with a guy named Rob Dial, better known as the Mindset Mentor. And he's now here on Shenanigans. And I just have to know, how did this happen? How did we link up? Tell me. How did we get so fortunate? So it's funny because my girlfriend came up to me one morning, she shows me a screenshot and she's like, Hey, her friend, Bethany, her Bethany's friend,

Hope, who listens to your show was like, Hey, is this Rob? Like Lauren's boyfriend? And she's like, yeah, it isn't. So Hope sent it to Bethany. Bethany sent it to Lauren. Lauren came up to me and she's like, hey, you were on the show. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Let me look it up. And I actually listened to the entire episode because I was like, let me listen to somebody who's translating my words. And I was like, I want to hear it through somebody else. And then I sent you guys a message and I was like, hey, thanks so much for doing it. And you're like, you got on a hop on the podcast. And this is like, what, two weeks ago now. And we're already here. Mate, I definitely, for myself, when I go through and listen to your podcast

as a business owner, startup myself, it just, I enjoy the lessons learned from it. So when I, and I always try, I want the best for my partner and everyone knows that. So like when I heard your podcast, it was just digestible. It was really easy to understand. And your examples you give are very good examples. You kind of,

when he explains it and it gives you like an example of what that could be. For example, you know, if you were married to somebody, you wouldn't have someone as a backup plan, which is in today's podcast. Exactly. So why have a backup plan B focus on plan A, which is, so your, your, your examples are very easy to follow for sure and so when i listened to him i was like honey have a listen to this so she i got her i got her onto it i'm always nagging at her and her mom but it's digestible it's 10 to 20 minutes your podcast great to listen to and i it hit it finally hit like the amount of books i ask her to read

the amount of like one words the one line i was like give it to her throughout the day and then she actually took the time and And then the next day she's like, I want to talk to you more about those eight steps for success or to deal with anxiety. Yeah. Yeah. So it was great. So thank you very much for introducing Sheena to mindfulness, more aware and to practice that self-love. It's difficult to do, I think. Yeah, no, I love it. I thought at first he was like sending me some like i was saying this joe rogan two and a half hour clip and i'm like honey i got a 30 minute

drive like i don't want to get into this right now and then he's like it's 19 minutes just listen i was like all right fine and it was the your thoughts change your reality was the, your thoughts change. Your reality was the first one I listened to. And then after that, I mean, we listened to the most powerful tool for manifestation, the stress and anxiety one. I was just listening to the fake friends one. And so now it's like everyone I've listened to, there's so many things that I can apply in my daily life. So thank you. You are awesome. And I'm so happy you're here. So yeah, I'm excited to be here too. I, you know, people, I guess I could be called like a motivational speaker, but I don't, I don't really feel like I'm motivational. I just like to shoot people straight. And you know,

what happened with me is, is I had a childhood where I went through a bunch of shit. And then I came to a point where I was like, Hey, like, let me try to figure myself out. Like I want my life to be better. So I started reading and learning and I happen to be in a job where I taught people, you know, that I was, I was in a sales position. I was a sales manager. So I had people that I trained and then I started seeing the changes in their lives. And when I left there, it was like this void where I was like, I just miss teaching people things. And, and so I was just one day I was like, I'm going to start a podcast. And it was literally this microphone I already had. Cause I'm a musician as well and just put it out. And that was six years ago and over a thousand episodes. And so it's just been like, you know, it's,

it's the thing I feel like I'm meant to do. And it, I just love it. Wow. So you do three episodes a week. Yep. I do three episodes a week and I do one with my, uh, my best friend and business partner. So we do four total. Okay. Do you do like a set day where you like record all of them? Okay. Yep. Thursday, my, my videographer comes over, we crank out three to four in a row and then we're done for the next week. Nice. And what's for you, obviously going through your lessons, why do you do that in batch creation? Why do you go through and apply, you do all your prep for that? What does that entail? And then why do you do your batch creation? Well, so the thing for me is like,

I'm really big on efficiency. And I think with a lot of people who, who have businesses, one of the things that holds them back is that they're trying to, you know, as a business owner, you're chasing so many different rabbits at one point in time. And it's easy to go, all right, for the next two hours, I'm going to focus on just creating these three podcast episodes. And I create the podcast episodes. I make the bullet points. I have a pretty good idea of exactly what I say. My videographer comes over for another two hours, and then we just crank out the things and then we're done. I've noticed that my first few hundred episodes were literally, I would record them like the day before. And I would have this like feeling of something that I had to do, like looming over me all day long. I do that.

And it doesn't help to be productive when you have this thing. It's like taking up mental energy. So if it's like, all right, my Thursday is my podcast day. I'm good. And then I can focus on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday for the rest of my business. Yeah. That's one thing where this week I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm doing three podcasts this week, which I haven't done in over a year probably. And I feel good because I'm getting ahead of myself. But then I always worry when I get too ahead for my content that it becomes like old.

If I'm talking about something that happened today and it releases in three weeks. So I like that the one dedicated day where you just focus. I need to be better about that. Rob, so you guys film one day for that week, right? Cause they're not, they're not weeks behind. Right? No, that's what I'm saying for mine. When I only put out one a week, it's like,

I would love to do like this week I'm doing three and I feel so good and accomplished that I'm like getting ahead of the game, but then I'm like, wait, but what I'm talking about on Wednesday, isn't coming out for three weeks. And then it's like old story, but yeah, but I'm trying to dedicate now. then it's like old story but yeah but i'm trying to dedicate now like my mondays are my like media days when i record do like vlogs and all of that so i like that that's that was rob said rob nailed it just then when you said your mental energy because we can only expand or give so much before you get tired fatigue kicks in on all levels so what's advice for all of sheena's listeners out there myself

included we've seen the world turn around to where you really have to be a big self-motivator right now especially the pandemic with if you're not working or working from home so with sheena and i all working from home what are some key factors that people or some habits that could help them be more efficient at crushing their day at home and getting the most out of that day. You just mentioned dialing in and segmenting timeframes to hit each different topic and like get this done for this window and move on. What's a couple more that we can share with everyone that I can learn? Yeah. So I'm really big on taking action because I mean, life is super simple and I try to make things as easy as I possibly can. And whenever I write something, I'm like, how can I make this easier?

How can I make this easier? How can I make this easier? And if you really dumb down like life in general, it's this simple. You either get what you want to in life or you don't. There's nothing that's in between. It's either white or it's black. You get what you want to or you don't. And all it comes down to is either you take action towards what it is that you want or

you make excuses as to why you're not taking action. And so you got to go, okay, so what's the most important thing is to take action. That's really what it is. Number one, one of the things the first thing that pops into my head is make your environment conducive to taking action and doing what needs to be done. So if you're talking about like,

how do we get more stuff done? Well, be very self-aware and go, well, what do I normally waste my time doing? If I waste my time on the couch scrolling, how can I make it harder for me to get onto the couch? Let me take all of my cushions and throw them inside of the room and now try to sit on top of your couch without any cushions on it, right? Take your phone and literally lock it away. There's apps that you can do that will lock it for a few hours where it's like, I'm going to find out what's getting

in the way of me taking action and try to create an entire environment that's conducive for me taking action. And then, so the other thing that I have as far as taking action is they have found that there's a technique called a Pomodoro technique, which means 25 minutes on five minutes off. So when you're, whenever you're sitting down to get something done, let's say that I have to create a podcast episode. Let's use that as an example, right? I have a very specific routine that I follow every single time to tell my brain it's time to actually go into doing this. So I'll give you a good example. Whenever I'm going to work out, I have the exact same song I listened to at the very beginning of a workout telling my brain it's time to switch tasks. Whenever I go into focusing and getting

stuff done, I have one song that I've been listening to for years. That is my get shit done song. And literally what I'll do is I have a routine the same way that Pavlov's dogs, for instance, you know, if you know the story of Pavlov's dogs, they would click a button and then, you know, make a noise and then they would give it a treat and they make a noise and give it a treat, ring the bell, give it a treat over and over. And eventually they found it, they'd ring the bell and the dogs would start to salivate. It's called classic conditioning. So they're conditioning the dog to expect when they hear the sound, they're going to get food. We think that we're super advanced, but we still have animal brains.

And so it's like, how can I classically condition myself to take action? So if I'm sitting down to get something done, I literally have this spot that I'm sitting in with you guys. This spot is the exact spot that I sit down to get stuff done. I'll come in. I have one song I listen to. I get tea. I drink the tea.

I put on my headphones and I listened to the exact same song. And so what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to bring as many of my five senses to know it's time to work. So also the other thing I have, you guys can't see it's over to the side. I have a, what's it called? A essential oil diffuser. So I have a diffuser and I'll put in peppermint and orange. So my smell knows it's time to start working. My hearing knows it's time to start working. My sight knows it's time to start working. My taste from the tea knows it's time to start working. My hearing knows it's time to start working. My sight knows it's time to start working. My taste from the tea knows it's time to start working. And so literally what I'm doing is I'm classically conditioning my brain to go, Oh yeah, we're about to focus.

And what people don't realize in Andrew Huberman, who's a neurobiologist that I had on my podcast says that mental focus will always follow visual focus. And so what I'll do is I'll literally stare at my screen for about three to four minutes. And I'm trying to get my brain to go, all right, this is where we're going to focus. And your brain will have resistance to go do something. Like if you're going to go to the gym, the hardest part is what walking in, in the first two minutes and then you're there and you're good. Right. And so if you're going to sit down and you have like quote unquote writer's block, you're going to sit down and you have like, quote unquote, writer's block, you're going to sit down and type out a book, for instance.

It's not usually creativity block. What it is, it's a resistance to a new task. And so what you do is you sit down and you can literally sit down and start for three minutes. I'm wearing, what color shirt am I wearing? It's like a salmon. I'm wearing a salmon shirt. It's 6.46 PM.

It's Monday, September 27th. The sun is about to set. It was 87 degrees out. Like I could just type, I'm, you know, my, my phone is red. Like I can go and just type stuff. And eventually what I'm doing is I'm trying to get past the resistance point to then just take action for whatever it is I need to take action for. I do 25 minutes on five minutes off, 25 minutes on five minutes off, 25 minutes on five minutes off. And that's a 90 minute increment of just getting shit done. I love that. So what is your background? Like what did you study in school? Cause you just

are so like degree wise, did you? Yeah, I dropped out. Oh, okay. I was wondering that. I'm like, did you get like a degree in like some sort of like psychology or something? Or you're just awesome and smart. I was getting a degree. So I was getting a degree in business and I started taking psychology classes and I was like, damn, this is really cool. And I worked for a company that was a sales company. And I was like, Oh, literally sales is all psychology and it's, it's psychology, it's persuasion, it's understanding humans, it's communication. Like it's the backbone of everything that we do. Like if, if I'm having a conversation with you, we just met, I'm selling you on why you

should like me and you're selling me on why you like we're selling each other and why we should like each other. And so, so I worked my way up. That was 19 when I started in that company. By the time I was 21, I opened my own office with them. By the time I was 24 and I left, I trained over 2000 sales reps and done about $5.6 million in sales with them. And so what that made me do was really start to figure

out who people were. And the reason why I dropped out was because I had a conversation with my mom and she goes, my mom's like really smart lady. And she's never like followed the normal route. And she's like, Hey, you know, I know this company is asking you if you want to be promoted and you're not done with school yet, but you know, what's the reason why you go to school? And I was like to make money. And she goes, aren't you already making way more than your professors are? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, so why are you still in school? My mom talked me into dropping out of college, which, you know, is one of the best decisions I had. So, and my, and then from there, it just became like, I became obsessed with like, I just love, even if I didn't teach it, I just

love learning about people. And I think humans and the human brain is the most interesting thing on the planet. Yeah. Hands down. Like you said, it's upsetting sometimes when I look at the psychology influence of sales and marketing. Or you look at someone like Apple and they're addictive. They hire professors in psychology to go ahead and make their app, make Apple, Apple. And it's so crazy to see the influence. And, and I guess even now through the pandemic, you've seen creative

businesses pivot and evolve and figure it out. But the sub line of all of that, the underlying text of all of that is human behavior and psychology. Right. I mean, it's fundamental. It's simple. You just got to be able to understand that. Yeah. A hundred percent. And it's, I mean, why would you not want to understand people better and how they work? And you know, like we're going through the whole world's gone through a lot of shit in the past 18 months, but we're basically in this big, giant social experiment if you really watch it. And if you take a step back and don't identify with it the same way that they say, like, if you're really stressed out, don't identify yourself with being stressed out. Instead of saying I'm stressed, just say, I, if you're really stressed out, don't identify yourself with being stressed out.

Instead of saying I'm stressed, just say I'm feeling, I am stressed is I am identifying with a feeling and a feeling is a passing thing. So it's just like, if you look at a cloud, you're not going to say I am that cloud. Cloud is just passing. It will eventually be gone. So my emotions are the exact same. And so when I look at it, I'm like, okay, people are going through a lot right now. And if you can take a step back and look at it, you're like, man, it's really interesting

to see what happens and how people change based off of fear, based off of what other people are saying, based off of what the media is saying. And so for me, just, I've just been watching it and I'm like, I can't believe this is happening, but I can when you see how an organism, all it wants to do is survive. And if you start to put some sort of fear out there, I'm not saying what's happening is good or bad at all. I'm just looking at from a very like, Hey, there's two different sides. I'm sitting in the middle, just watching and seeing this thing happen. I mean, why would you not want to know how people work and watch these things and see how people react to what's going on in the world right now? Right. One of the things I took

notes about is because I would say that since Brock and I have started dating, my anxiety has gone down significantly. I used to be a very anxious person. I'm on a reality show. I'm an open book. I'm just very exposed at all times. And I feel like he has definitely helped calm me and all of that. And when I was listening to one of your episodes, I'm not saying like I have anxiety, but like I've felt anxiety in the past. And Brock had played this for my friend Lala and I, when we were in solving a couple of months ago. All these girls talk about their feelings and how like. How much anxiety. And I listened to them. And it was, I think it was just after that one podcast,

I listened to her and it's good. was just after that one podcast I listened to. And it's great because it's so much context and little segments. And you can always immediately put it to work. You can listen to your podcast and go ahead and see it in real life. And then to have that conversation and then to have these girls from Reality Show talk about their feelings and who they are as feelings. I'm like, I played it for them both. And then this morning I was with her doing a workout class and she was like, oh, who's on your podcast today? And I told her you, and she was like, oh my God. She's like the one, she goes not, I have anxiety. Like I've felt anxiety in the past. And I was like, you took something from

that. And like, this was months ago. And like she listened. even like when um i never knew the meaning of abracadabra until listening to your podcast and you said it's a hebrew word for as i speak i create and i'm like holy shit like i know just like there's just been so many things that i've taken from different episodes we've listened to and yeah i think it's very difficult for us as humans and for your audience listening. Like it's very difficult for us to be like, wait, it's that simple because we complicate things and we want to complicate things because if I complicate it, I have an excuse. If I complicate it, I have a reason for why it failed. And I want everyone to understand like failure shouldn't be fair, right? We talk, you've talked about this plenty of times and,

and we can touch on that with everybody. I think the ability to fail is the ability to fail properly by learning, by looking back at what the actual steps were taken and then what the effect was, the cause and effect of that failure could lead to something better. And that's why I personally enjoy taking a chance because what's the worst case that could happen? I'm still standing right here thinking about it instead of just taking those right actions. I think it's

difficult for your listeners and for some people to kind of take those steps. Why do you think that is? I mean, if you, if you want to get down to the deep of it, I think everyone's biggest fear, like if you look at fears, right? Like not fears of like spiders, not fears of heights, any of that stuff. But I mean like the one fear that's holding him back the most, and I've, I've done this thousands and thousands, thousands of people I've said, what's your biggest fear when I've given speeches and find out what it is. It's like, if I could give you like 90% of them right now, it's like the fear of rejection, the fear of other people's opinions, the fear of failure, the fear of success, the fear

of not being a good enough parent, then fear of, of running out of money. You know, like it's, it's the fear of other people's opinions, the fear of being pushed out by their family, any of those things at the core of all of them is just the feeling of I'm not enough. And that's it. And at the core of the feeling, if I'm not enough is I'm not going to be loved. And that's really what it is. And at the core of it, no matter, and you know, being a guy who was raised tough, all sports, you know, my father passed away when I was 15 for being alcoholic. He passed away on a Thursday. I went back to school on Monday. I didn't tell anybody, didn't act like it didn't even happen. Like we're taught to be tough, but to really go, you know what? Like all I really do want is just to be loved. And our fear is that I'm not enough

in some sort of way. And so it's easier sometimes to not take action than it is to step into our fear and possibly be rejected. Like, you know, a lot of people say I'm a perfectionist, right? Everybody's a perfectionist. I think like everybody is, do you want to know why? Because like, let's say I'm a painter, right? And, uh, and I, I'm in my basement, I'm painting all of the time. And you come down and you're like, Oh my God, Rob, these are amazing. Why won't, why, why have I never seen this before? I'm like, Oh yeah, well, you know, I'm, they're not, they're not done yet. They're not perfect yet. And you're like, well, you should go out and put these on and we should do a show and you should have people come see. I'm like, no, no, it's not done yet. It's not perfect yet. Perfectionism is a mask for a fear. And the

fear is usually just the fear of rejection, the fear of not being accepted, the fear of not being good enough, fear of not being loved. Because essentially what I'm really afraid of, even though my biggest want in this world is to create beautiful paintings and to go show them to the world and make money off of it and be able to quit my job working at whatever, Google. And I want to be able to paint and do something amazing.

My biggest fear is that I'll be able to put like my entire heart and soul onto a canvas. And then somebody walks by not realizing that I'm the person who painted it and saying, yeah, I don't like this. Or, you know, I, I, he's going to charge a thousand bucks for that. I wouldn't pay a hundred bucks for that. Hearing that is the fear. So instead of getting to that point where I could possibly have rejection, I'd rather just stay inside of a bubble and not have to come in, not have to have my ego be destroyed by something like that. I was just talking about this last night with my mom. She has a room where she has

these paintings hung up that she did it like those paint and sip type of things. And I've always wanted to do one of those, but every time she's done one, I haven't been able to make it. So this past summer we were up in Solvang and we did a paint and sip. And I'm just like, I'm the perfectionist. And I'm like, I don't want to do this for the first time on camera. What if my painting's bad? Like, I mean, I painted in high school. I took art class in college.

I was really artistic, but I'm like, I, you're right. Like I didn't want mine to be the worst one. And so I was painting with her and I was like looking at my mom's and I was like, this is something that I was so afraid to do for the first time on camera because I was afraid of looking bad. And I'm, I've always been afraid of doing things for the first time in front of a camera because I want to have it prepped. I want to know ahead of time what the outcome is going to be, but I did it. I crushed it. I didn't win best painting, but I think it was definitely in the top three. And then it felt good. I was

like, okay, like I need to just get more outside of my comfort zone and try new things because I mean, you just, you never know. It doesn't matter. It's it's yeah. I know, but I've been a perfectionist because I'm afraid of rejection. Exactly. It's funny. Well, now I realize that I didn't realize that until this moment of why I'm, I just, yeah, I'm afraid of not looking the best you're on a and also it doesn't help the microscope that you that you get put on when you're on a reality show for sure it's like all of us yeah that's gotta that's gotta be some crazy shit I couldn't imagine like I'm under a microscope but I don't I don't I think that it's got to be way harder for you guys there's just

plenty of opinions you know and I think and I think that and that's the root of what you just said then like people are really scared of rejection but you're on a national television but i'll take my hat off to you this season honey we had a great time with it you had someone to support i think it's having feeling comfortable with somebody that can find your inner circle that can support you through that too and that's finding either your mentors outside of it or if you're at home talking to your husband about something you want to do or you're talking to your wife like hey look like these are some things that I really want to change. Can you help me with that? Cause if you get the support, right. You can ask for help,

get that support. It makes it just buries that load with somebody else. Yeah. Failure is not final. Failure is just a function. That's all that it is. So it's like, you know, it's funny. Cause, cause what, one thing that people don't think is they're like, Oh, if this guy's the mindset mentor, like he must have the perfect mindset. Like, no, my mind's, my mindset's fucked. That's why I'm the mindset mentor because I have to work at it every day. It's like, if you look at a guy who's, who's ripped, it's because he has to show up to the gym every single day to get there. Right. And so it's like, I wake up sometimes. And like you were saying, we were talking about anxiety a little while ago. I wake up and I feel

anxious almost every single day, but it's like, I I'm able to figure out I've developed patterns to not make myself feel that way all the time. And that's why I can speak to it at a, at what I feel is a high level is because I know how to pull myself out of it. And so when I teach stuff, it's like, I'm the Guinea pig of those things. When you wake up in the morning, one thing that people don't realize is that your, your cortisol, which is your stress hormone is actually at its highest the moment that you wake up in the morning. So you should naturally be more stressed out in the morning, more anxious in the morning. So if you think there's something wrong with you, you're actually pretty normal. The bad thing to do is to go and get coffee immediately though, because then that's going

to make it even worse. But it's like there's strategies to get yourself out of it, like the ones you guys shared of how to make yourself feel better in those moments. And so it's like just knowing that you're going to feel certain ways, you're going to feel stressed, you're going to feel anxious, you're going to feel sad, you're going to be afraid of fear, and the fear of failure. But it's like, I always say the difference between a successful person, unsuccessful person is not that the successful person is the fearless leader, as people always say, it's that they both feel fear, it's just one's learned not to listen to it anymore. They've just learned to kind of dance with it. Oh, here's the fear. All right, let's go ahead and move together versus

like, oh shit, like I've got to completely back off because I feel feelings of fear. That's a little bit more well-worded than what I say to you about fear and anxiety. Yeah. And that's the one that I also don't help. So by you clarifying that and giving us those words, to be able to support someone, you've got to be able to word things very correctly, especially when you're dealing with fear and anxiety and these tormenting demons under the bed. You know, it's a tough world out there, especially right now with feelings. So the Mindset Mentor, was that a name that you came up with?

Or did someone call you that once? And you're like, that's a good name for a podcast. Yeah, I had some people that started tagging me on Instagram and, you know, I get a lot of people that tag my stuff and they're like, you know, this guy's my mindset mentor. Cause it wasn't actually even originally called the mindset mentor before the mindset mentor is called the mindset and motivation podcast. And then it kept saying mindset mentor, mindset mentor. And what happened was I thought to myself, you know, as far as branding goes, if I go to any person, I'm like, Hey, who's the person that you follow for mindset? Like,

who's your mindset? It could be like Tony Robbins. It could be this person, you know, I'm 35, Tony Robbins, like 61. Majority of the guys who are in this game are like 60, 70, 80 years old. Yeah. You know, they're going to retire or die pretty soon. I want to be the guy that's known as the mindset guy. So I was like, I'm going to start branding myself and trademarked the mindset mentor as the person who is the mindset guy, because I don't feel myself getting away from this anytime soon. Like, I just feel like I'm getting deeper and deeper into the practice. And, and so for me, it was like, people started calling me that. And I was like, Hey, that flows pretty well. Like the mindset mentor, that's pretty cool. And then I looked it up and I was like, Oh, I can,

I can, nobody's, nobody's got this podcast name. This is probably about two and a half years ago. I switched it. And then I was like, I'm going to trademark this. And so it's kind of just stayed from there. That's so smart. I saw that, um, you also follow Ed Milet on Instagram. I, he's a friend of mine. I've had him on my podcast and out of the gosh, I don't even know how many I've done every week for three and a half years to this day still was one of my favorite interviews ever. And it's not like I go more, you know, like kind of like the pop culture route. But then when I've had people like you and Ed on my show, I just think it brings such a different perspective to my show and I really

enjoy it. So I'm just, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks for having me. And that was, this is, this is fun because it's like, I, the reason why when, when we started talking on Instagram, I was like, this would be great. Cause I don't, I don't think I've ever spoken in front of your demographic before. Like there's people that might not have heard of it. And that's the cool thing. I was like, I would love to pop on and chat with you guys about these things. When we started this conversation, exactly what I wanted to do, because I truly believe that if we can change our mindset of how we deal with our problems, everybody that listens, all your audience will have a better chance at having a happier day,

a better chance at achieving something that they didn't think they could do. You know what I'm so impressed about? I got an ice tub. I put it on my balcony in an old freezer and I painted it. I put some water sealant in it. And for me getting an ice bath, it's challenging enough mentally and physically. It's challenging to get in there. I plugged it in. It freezes overnight, get out, break the ice up, and we jump in. For me, I get in, I take my deep breaths and I'm working my time up. I'm still at like the minute mark. Sheena just walks across. She's like, I can't try it. So I encourage her and she gets in eight minutes straight just like that and i was just like that is an immediate and that like

immediate response to your willpower and mindset okay and you can do so much more if you just do that we're going we're in the gym we nearly get separated every time we go work out together because she just doesn't have that same mindset to everything else she doesn't love because it's either too challenging, too difficult. I think there was a time in my life in the last decade when I kind of gave up that competitive spirit. I don't know what season it was of the show where I just felt defeated. And I was like, you know what? You win. I'm not going to keep fighting for the top spot, the most followers, all that. Like I give up. But then it just became a point where it was affecting me in more points in my life that

I didn't really realize. And with Brock now, he's definitely helped motivate me and get me to be the strongest, best, most confident version of myself. And I do love a good competition still. I'm just afraid of failure. I'm afraid of losing. I want to make sure I'm going to be better at it. I'm going to win. So the other day I was like, oh, I birthed a baby for five now months ago. I'm like, I can get in an ice bath. Like you are such a pussy i can do it so i was just like you know what i have to be better at this than him because i i just i have to and i got in and i was like it's not that

bad and he was just like what and then he starts timing me and he's just like i'm like go ahead try and do eight minutes you could i saw it i saw it on your stories i was like she crushed you right oh 100 but i was super proud that she believed in herself to do that and if that means taking an L i can take those L's yeah i love it when you and i definitely want this for your your followers for our audience so this being on reality shows for my first year and a little bit different because we don't i tell everyone we just don't hold our tongue like if you have a conversation you have something in your head on the show you just voice that opinion yeah no matter how outrageous it's gonna be you say it

and then you just deal you just go which is kind of therapeutic because there's no kind of like you keep it in you just say it it's reality and now this is a serious issue because you just assaulted somebody very hurtly very very powerfully you hurt somebody with your words yeah but i guess with your audience and having you on this season, I definitely took that role because I really liked that to bring the best out of people. So I took a couple of guys, I took two of them on a nice bathing therapy session with me. We went to trim bonsai trees to help make decisions,

which is like cut off the sleek. At the end of that episode, I had a pile like this big and he had a pile like this big because he couldn't make decisions of which ones to cut. But it's awesome this season because that was the role I took, and I definitely want to say thank you, Rob, for guiding me through that, through your podcast and through your words and your examples and your analogies.

It definitely resonates. And if anyone out there is listening and they want to go ahead and listen to Rob, I'll go ahead and let you finish it off, brother, because you have got, I don't know if it's still okay, but you've got your, your life, right? You've got your workshop. Do you want to tell everyone? That was actually, today was the first day we had 1,700 people live with us today. Wow. That's amazing.

How can everyone go ahead and come listen to yourself? Keep getting these words of wisdom every day. Where can they find you? Yeah. I mean, I always tell people the mindset mentor. If you're listening to us, you listen to us on a podcast, it's the same exact way. Like I said, it comes out four times a week. And then, you know, social media, it's a Rob Dial Jr. R-O-B-D-I-A-L-J-R. My only goal is, and I, it was funny. I found a journal literally from like six years ago when I first started doing this. And I said, my only goal is to make more positive content than anyone else alive. And I look at, I'm like, I put out a lot of stuff now, but it's crazy because that was my focus six years ago.

And it's just continued to happen. So it's like, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram, on LinkedIn, I'm every YouTube, everywhere that you could possibly be. I try to be in at least just spread it. Cause some people like podcasts. Some people don't like podcasts, some people are on Instagram scrolling. And so for me, it's just like, if I feel like, I mean, it's, I'll give you actually a pretty crazy thing that happened to me. I was on a plane in December. I was flying back home and there was like a loud bang, right? It was crazy. I'm telling you the story. I'm about to literally get on a plane to Italy in three days. I'm like, right. So I forgot about this. It was like immediate, like, oh shit, something's wrong. Uh, about 10 minutes after we took off, they called the code red,

which is not a good thing to hear on the plane. The left jet caught on fire. And, uh, yeah, I know people were showing me pictures after we landed. Thank God we landed. We were fine, but they had to turn it around. We had to go back to Atlanta. The fire marshal, actually the guy who's, you know, on the plane is usually, um, the fire marshal. There's some sort of marshal. I can't remember what they're called. Um, what is it? Air marshal, air marshal, air marshal, um, gets up and takes over the entire plane. They're like code red. We got to do this, this, this, this is an emergency landing. I was in the very front row. So they made me go back a couple just in case I didn't get hit by any debris that would, you know, come through kind of some crazy shit. And I thought to myself, I was like, Hey, like, I don't want to die. But if I do, I feel like I've done enough.

That feeling was a great feeling of like, yeah, man, like I've done enough. If, if as long as this outlives me for a little while and people continue to listen to it and it helps people for however long that continues to go on, then I feel like I've done enough. And luckily I didn't die and everything's still good, but that's always been my mission is just like to make as much positive content. Cause I know what it feels like to suffer from your thoughts. You know, I know what that feels like. I know what it feels like to be a, you know, a little kid and scared because you don't know what's going to happen with your father. And you don't know what's going to, you know, he was, my father's an alcoholic. So I know it feels like to kind of suffer and be

stuck there. And so I feel like I've been able to get myself into a really beautiful state. And I feel like I'm obligated to teach what has gotten me out of where I was. And, you know, people tend to resonate with it. So that's, that's what I try to do. Yeah. Speaking of airplanes also, did I see on your story that you're learning how to fly a plane? Yeah. Yeah. So I'm buying a plane by the end of the year and I'm going to learn how to fly. Yeah. So, uh, number one, it's a really good tax benefit. So that's a good thing. But also it's like, you know, I just did an event in Mexico and it was all about abundance. Right. And so I've been really like trying to tap into a frequency of abundance. And for me, what that

means is that is, I'll give you a good example. When I bought the house that we were living in now, I love my house. And as soon as I saw it, I was like, I'm buying that house. And then as soon as they accepted the offer, there was like, oh shit, I've never paid this much money for anything. And, you know, I was raised really poor. Like my mom got rejected for food stamps because we had a car, you know, like you can't have a car and a food stamps, I guess. But, but that we were at that point. And so there was a, still a piece of me of like scarcity that was holding on like, Hey, don't, don't go spend money on this because you never know what's going to happen. And you, you know, you save money for a rainy day and all

that stuff. And so I called him my best friend, my business partner, the one who's on my Thursday episodes with me. And I was like, Hey, I need you to speak abundantly to me. And we always say like, we, our phrase is this is abundant as fuck. Like, that's what we say. And I was like, this house is abundant as fuck. I've got to get this house, but I'm like, I can feel myself going into scarcity. And he's like, dude, just imagine what it's going to be like to wake up in the feeling of being in that place and what it's going to feel like and how that's going to impact the feeling of waking up in a place that you love is going to impact the content that you create. Everything that you do have, instead of your mind having to be thinking about, you know, we live downtown and downtown Austin

got pretty hairy for a little while. There's a lot of homeless people and stuff. And he's like, so instead of worrying about if someone's going to break into your, your condo, you know, just immediately you wake up and you you're surrounded by nature and think about that. And I was like, he put me into this like abundance frequency. So anyways, the reason why I'm saying this is because, so we had this event that was this past week in Mexico that we ran. It was all about abundance and tapping into this frequency and how abundance, once you like start to go, I'm not like I'm gonna spend my money to be stupid, but I'm going to try to like expand myself. Like instead of being contracted, the feeling of like fear and contraction, I'm gonna

try to expand into whatever else there is. And so I started talking with a guy at a mastermind I'm in, and he has a plane. And I was like, you, I didn't even realize people can just like, I mean, I like knew it, but I didn't know it that you can just like buy planes and fly them wherever you want to. And you have to go through like four or five months of training. And I was like, that's pretty crazy. I never knew that level of freedom, you know, where you can just take off and go somewhere for a day. I felt that freedom yesterday. I literally was in Vegas with a friend of ours, Randall Lala, who we mentioned earlier. Randall got to Vegas. I met him out there. We went to the football game. Halfway through, we're like, okay, we've got to get out of here. He got a private plane. And when we got on the

plane, in my head, it went straight to the fear of like scarcity because same here. I was raised definitely in a low-income area, single mom of five. So I had that scarcity factor. And I looked over and it was just me and him on this private jet to fly back to LA. And I looked at him, I was like, and he looked at me, without me even asking it, because I think he realized what I was saying. He looked at me, he's like, look, the reason why I work so hard is so I know if I need to get out of here, I can do this to myself. And he said that one word to me. I looked at him, I was just like, yeah, that's it. Because if I do work hard, these

abundances that I would like to get, I can work for that. And I've looked at him, I'm like, it's not like he hasn't done this one-off. This isn't a one-off occasion for him. He's not splurging. He has worked his way up over many years, hundreds of movies produced. And now he's a movie director. He's worked his ass off to get to where he was at. So I love that. It's a different life though. If you look at it, what do we all really want? We all just want freedom, right?

We want freedom. My definition of success is to be able to do what I want, when I want, with who I want. That's it. And I don't want a plane for just like, oh, look at me. I'm not the type of person who likes to flex on Instagram. Like I don't even really show my life on Instagram, but it, but really what it is is like, I love the fact of like, you know what,

who knows what's going to happen with COVID. And I don't like TSA and having to go through and get there three hours before and all that stuff. It's, you know, it's not fun to have to do that. So I'm like, you know what, it would be cool to wake up and be like, Hey, do you, we have, you know, a place that we love that's in Sedona. It's called a Lotte cafe. Do you want to have to do that. And so I'm like, you know what? It would be cool to wake up and be like, hey, do you, we have, you know, a place that we love that's in Sedona. It's called Elote Cafe. Do you want to go to get Elote Cafe tonight? Wait, we've been there.

We love that place. You've been there? It's amazing, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you want to go to Elote. We'll meet at Elote Cafe one time. Oh my God, I would love that. You guys can fly in,

both on the private plane and then we'll just go meet. We'll schedule a date out there. We love Sedona. It's a good little getaway spot. Yeah, we spent, so when COVID hit, we were already there. We were a date out there we love it's a good little getaway spot yeah we we uh we spent so when covet hit we were already there we're supposed to be there for three weeks we were there for four months and it was amazing just to be able to go there and there was nobody

there and but it's like that feeling though like if i just want if i if i have a longing for something isn't it pretty cool to be like i could be there in a few hours yeah totally yeah you know and that's what everybody deserves everybody Everybody should have that level of freedom and to be able to think that they deserve that level of freedom. And you deserve it. You got to tell yourself you deserve it. And if you believe you deserve that,

you will take the right steps to work towards that freedom that you get. Yeah. And think about what the beautiful thing about it and the thing I love most about it is not buying the thing. It's not building the business. It's who I need to become in order to achieve that thing.

Right. That's really what it is. That's most exciting for me is like, when we're talking about competition earlier, I'm super competitive. Like when you look at my, my strengths finder, which is like a test on like all of your different strengths, your personality test competitiveness is my number one strength, but like, it's not really against other people anymore. It's just about who I once was, you know? And I just want for me to be able to get to a point to get this thing or this thing

or this thing, or to be able to impact this many people, it's going to require a different version of me than I currently have today. And that's what I'm trying to build into. I love it. I love that. It's the best, man. I'd love to keep talking to you for hours on end because it's so easy just to chat with you, bro. But I appreciate it. And I'd like to put a special shout out to Beth for contacting Hope. Then text to Lauren to double check that was your podcast. Hope to Bethany to Lauren to Rob.

Yes. And thank you so much for being here. This has been awesome. You guys, be sure to check out Rob Dyle's podcast, The Mindset Mentor. See you guys. Thanks for listening guys. Bye.

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