Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - The Ugly Truth: Brock Speaks in Depth About His Past…

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

Scheana and Brock do a Q&A episode all about what went down on the last episode of Vanderpump Rules. They both admit it was not an easy episode to watch. Brock explains more about a conversation he had and why he chose to share that information. Ultimately, Brock opens up about his past, his previous relationship and why things panned out the way they did. Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana @brock__daviesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Alrighty. How we doing, honey? Wow. It's been a week. It's been a little wild, but it's expected. And here we are. Here we are. Here we are, honey. So I thought this would be a good time in the season to check in, do a little Q&A. As I know, a lot of y'all have had some opinions, a lot of questions. questions. So I thought we would just get into some, but not too much because there is still a lot ahead. And I feel like there's a lot to head. So I'm definitely interested to see how it gets played out. There are some things I do want to address. And there are some questions that a lot of you have because of how it has been – Perceived? Not perceived.

How it was repeated is what I'd like to say. And it may be repeated because someone didn't hear me correctly or it was just their interpretation of something. But I am here to answer your questions and your followers' questions, honey. And I am – this is the problem. I'm an open book as per se, and it gets me in trouble. Yeah. That's almost like your problem.

That's probably my problem. But before we get into all of those, I need to give y'all an update. Because last week, we sat here with my mom and Brock and Summer summer who was just pulling at her ear pulling at her ear oh did we talk about this did i say she'll be fine she's probably tired yeah you said she was tired okay he ate his words the rumors are true i'm a bad dad no no i'm not even gonna let you joke about i i thought she was tired She wasn't complaining. She was just touching her ear. What is it, honey? So shortly after we did that podcast, Brock had some interviews.

So he had to leave. And then my mom and I were like, okay, now she's feeling even more warm. And you know what? This is my first child. So now I'm feeling like a bad mom. The whole time we're doing this podcast, I'm watching her tug at her ears. And I'm like, oh, my God. I didn't even notice warm. And you know what, this is my first child. So now I'm feeling like a bad mom. The whole time we're doing this podcast, I'm watching her tug at her ears. And I'm like, oh my God, like, I didn't even notice that. I just thought she just, you know, found her ear. She's left-handed. Like I just, I didn't know that that was a sign that maybe something was wrong.

So then she's feeling warm, but I'm like, I don't know that that's like feverish warm. Like she just runs warm. She lays on us all the time, you know, body heat. Anyway, we decided to take her temperature under her arm and it's slightly elevated, but that's also the most inaccurate read of a temperature. So we're like, I guess we got to stick it up her bum. You know, we do that. We take her temp and she has 103 fever. that we take her temp and she has 103 fever. I call the doctor. It is just after hours. So of course me first time mom panicking. I'm like emergency line, emergency line. I need a doctor to call me now. The on-call doctor, they were so amazing. Called me back right away and said, you know, it was very likely an ear infection. If we wanted to just monitor her overnight, give her some Tylenol for the fever, bring her in in the morning.

So I was like, okay, yeah, let's not overreact. But Summer doesn't like to take anything pretty much other than breast milk. We just started her on food. We just started feeding her other things. She only knows breast milk. Right. She's only had avocado for a couple of days. We gave her a little side of guac.

When we tried to give her the Tylenol, she's like, what is this? Just projectile. Throwing up, throwing up. And I was just like, okay, this isn't working. The fever's not coming down. She's upset. So we go to urgent care. We get to urgent care.

I'm only allowed to be in the room with her. This was traumatizing for me. They check her ears, not one, but two ear infections. Then they're like, you know, while you're here, we should check her for COVID in case she's been exposed. And I'm like, her dad and I get tested every week. We're negative. Like that would just be insane if this baby has COVID when we both just tested this week. So then they do the swab, they do the PCR and the rapid. I'm just watching her get tortured. Then they're giving her amoxicillin. It was just, it was really upsetting. Thankfully, no COVID,

two ear infections. We have to give her amoxicillin twice a day. She is not like down for the meds in her mouth. So now we've had to trick her by putting it in her breast milk. And long story short, mom was right. Y'all were both right. And I am, I'm more upset with myself that I could, I ignored. I don't know. I just didn't, she just wasn't complaining. The thing was up, that was the first day that she was slightly like, she was more off.

Like she wasn't really herself. My mom was like, you don't really notice. I'm like, actually she hasn't been as smiley today, but it wasn't like for days that she was like lethargic or extra colicky or crying. Like it wasn't like there were big telltale signs. The ear grabbing was the biggest thing. So we're both beating ourselves up about it. Cause we're like, Oh my God, how many days has this been bothering her? Like my mom hadn't seen her for a couple of days and now she's noticing this, but we got her the

meds. She's got her little spark back. We did a nice little trip down to San Diego this week. That was good. Yeah. We got to see our neighbors. So normally when we go down to San Diego, we go to this restaurant Barbusa, which is my favorite. We'll go with our neighbors. We would go with friends, but this trip, we just pretty much packed sweats and we had our meals from green chefs. So we're like, let's just like stay in. It was raining on Monday. Let's just like make dinner, invite the neighbors over. We made this Southwest chicken like rice bowl that was really bomb. And I just wanted to remind you guys that you can use code Sheena125 for $125 off your first orders. And also while we were down there, we were watching Crocodile Dundee. So I've never seen these movies.

And now I'm like hooked because I feel like I'm like with like my own real life Crocodile Dundee. That's funny. But one of the things that he when they're like fishing, like catching fish and whatever was the barramundi. Yes. And so I had never heard of this fish until I saw it on the Green Chef meal. And it's like an Australian. It's a bloody big barramundi. Yeah.

She goes, Mick, you were hunting? And she grabs a whole bunch of gun shells. And he's just like, wow, you know, in Australia, big bloody bundy. Big bloody. Barramundi. Barramundi. Big bloody barramundi. Yeah.

And that's one of the things that I had been wanting to try from Green Chef, but because of, like, the mercury levels when I was pregnant, I couldn't. But we've got it ordered for this week, and I'm so excited to try it. So I will keep you guys posted. But, again, use code Sheena125. And so we're down there. We're hanging out with the neighbors. We're like, let's do a little, you know, watch party.

It wasn't the easiest episode to watch ariana looked gorgeous i'm watching ovens live after but um but here we are we just get into it let's just dive into it now my first question which i know you saw in a text message i asked you immediately was, why the fuck would you tell Lala this in confidence? And did you think she wasn't going to then bring it up to everyone else? So, okay. So the problem is, honey, this goes, okay, I'll answer that question. I told Lala because I wanted to be honest with her because I actually generally felt like she was generally triggered, as the word she said, about my situation. And so if she was generally triggered, I was like, look, I see what you're saying because I've been living in this my whole time.

But I see what you're saying. But I want you to understand that if it was as easy as me flying back to Australia and saying, hey, then seeing the kids kicking in the front door, which you can't do, kids are involved. If it was as easy as that, I would do it. But instead, I was like, look, I'm going to try and see, and this is my problem. I try and give people the benefit of the doubt. And I thought, look, Lala, if I explain something to you, maybe you might understand that it's not just black and white. Like there's a lot more depth into this. And I just thought, I just thought the best in people. That was my, that was me. And I, and I wanted to, I wanted to explain it because obviously you'll find out. So I'm going to try and avoid most of the, like some things on here and so much as we can. Yeah, we're not going to give too much away.

Just address what has already been out there because there were a lot of questions, a lot of comments, a lot of DMs that we've received. So I just wanted to address some of the things we can, but just know there's still so much more to come. Yeah. So the reason why I told Lala was because I am an open book and it gets me into trouble. And I've learned to be an open book and speak about my actions out loud because I'm trying to become a better person.

I want to be accountable. And if I'm wrong, I have now learned to be wrong. But let me tell you this. When I was 18 years old, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, pretty much all my 20s, I was a different person. And it wasn't until I've gone into an actual relationship that respects myself, all of me with you, honey. Like I've really, I've turned a corner because

I'll tell you what, before that I was a very egomaniac driven person and ego is the biggest, that's the biggest killer for me. And it wasn't for a fact of me having ego because I thought I was the hottest thing in town. I don't know. I don't know where it stems from because growing up, I wasn't the hottest shit. I was bullied. I was bad, like having four fingers growing up in school. It wasn't until I was like, and this is a true fucking thing. When I was 16, I went to a new high. I went to 15 schools in 12 years of education. Yeah. We moved around a lot. It was, I got bullied. I got, I got kicked out of schools. Like I had 80 AD. I had all of the alphabet going on in me. It was, it was bad. So yeah, we moved around a lot. I had all of the alphabet going on in me. ADHD. It was bad. So, yeah, we moved around a lot.

I went to a lot of schools. I had problems growing up. And then when I got to my last school or one of my schools, I remember this girl. I finally started getting, like, girls' attentions. And she came up to me and she was like, oh, you're pretty cute or something like that. And my response, because I don't know how to handle that comment at all. Oh, God. I responded to her. I was like, oh to handle that compliment at all oh god I responded to her I was

like I've heard that all day oh my god because I generally was like oh thanks you're not the first person to say that today that's not but what you say I understand this okay and then so I don't know where it was for me but there is definitely a growing up point that had happened and unfortunately it didn't happen when i was 19 and through that we have more questions that you want to answer me and well yeah it's the second part of my question did you think that what you told her was going to stay between the two of you did you not think that she would then bring it up to other people well i generally the reason why you just gave her the highlights you didn't even explain yourself you're like well there was a domestic violence and a restraining order so you know there's more to the story but you know have a good day mate and then you go home and then you don't

even tell me i know that you've given her these fucking highlights so i'm just at a tea party which by the way i'm never going to a fucking tea party again. Tea parties are canceled. I'm sorry. I really, I'm sorry that I didn't, because in my eyes, and this is probably another reason why like I process things differently. I didn't see it as that. I really thought I was trying to connect with Lala on a level where it's like, Lala, respectfully, as much as I want to talk about my kids, as much as I want to have that conversation, I don't have the right to because I haven't been involved in the kid's life. Now, their mother has asked me to respect their

space. Their mother has asked us to like, look, do you, but just like leave my kids out of it. I wanted that. I didn't realize that this was where this conversation was going because guys, this conversation and this TV show right now has made it a lot more difficult to build bridges and repair the relationship I have with my ex. That's the bottom line. And that's the truth. So I was just trying to smooth over things and get things sorted over. And what I ended up doing was just fucking, there you go. Here we are.

I had a conversation with somebody outside of my circle. Somebody that still also didn't approve of what I did, but she just listened to me. And it was the first time in my, since going through this, since the marriage and everything, outside of my family of talking to anybody about it. But let's go to your next question. So Shelby Jansen said, like, we need a timeline. This also, I feel like it sounds like there's a current restraining order against you when this is something that was what, like a decade ago, like give us kind of a timeline of when things happened. Yeah. Okay. You don't need to say too much. Definitely. So I'll go over a little bit of the timeline for everybody at home listening. So when I was with my partner, my ex, I'll just refer to as my ex, we were together from

18 years old, 18, 19, we met. And then during 1920, we- 1920? 19. Oh, 1920 years old. Yeah, 19 and 20 years old. I just skipped that timeline. Just really fucked that whole timeline up.

No, so we met, we were dating for two and a half years. whole timeline up no so we met we were dating we were dating for like two and a half years we ended up during that relationship we broke up got back together it was a very

18 year old relationship 19 year old relationship I had one of those and a lot came from that I got caught texting I have an issue I had an issue

and it used to be my ego as I just mentioned where I used to like communicate with I used to like flirt I used to just like the, as I just mentioned, whereas I used to like to communicate with, I used to like flirting. I used to just like the feel of being wanted or something like that. It was weird. It's definitely weird.

Okay. And I acknowledge that. No, I know you've told me that. And then, so, you know, that's creeped into our relationship. So that happened. And then we ended up breaking up. I moved to France to play rugby. I was 20 year old, heartbroken, moved to France.

We were, and then she moved on with her relationship, had a boyfriend. And at the end of the season, I was like, Hey, heartbroken, moved to France. And then she moved on with her relationship, had a boyfriend. And at the end of the season, I was like, hey, you want to come to France? So she came to France. We were there together. And then we decided that we just traveled the whole world and we don't want to do this. We broke up. And then that same night we broke up, we were at dinner and her boobs hurt at our mate's birthday party. And we looked at the table, the girls all screamed and then they're like're like, oh, pregnant. And the next day we did tests and we did another test and we were pregnant. So we're like, look, we just broke up yesterday. Like we moved to France, we broke up. And this is my side of the story. I was still also very much in love with this woman that I

thought it was regardless of our relationship. So we went back to Australia and we were going to have an abortion. A hundred percent. We. 100%. We had the conversation about it. Now, I don't know what happened between that and that. I never told my mom anything. And then we went to our own houses and then turned out we ended up deciding to have Eli. And so during that phase, we're like, perfect. I'll step up. I can do this.

We'll get married, do the right thing, do that. And during that transition of me going home and having that argument, we had an argument. And this is when the incident happened. So this is in May 2011. We got into a fight at my friend's house and it was an altercation. And then from that, nothing happened. We went back home.

We were together. We decided to move back to France and spend another year in Europe because we were having a little boy. I get to spend time at home, play professional rugby. This was great. The team's doing really well. So we moved back to France together, have Eli. Eli's born. Then we go through that season. And during the middle of the season, the club falls. They run out of money. They overspend. And I have to then go back to working at a bar. I work at a bar. That puts a lot of stress on our relationship because now I'm back in an old environment that I used to thrive in. And that was bad because it led to me texting girls. And then it led to me even sexting. Like I had an

issue back then where I used to just like sext on dating apps and it's disgusting and I'm sorry, you know? And, and, and that, that is the emotional abuse that was brought up in the domestic violence sort of that I probably did do. And I didn't see I was doing to my ex. You know? And I'm sorry. When she's just at home raising your kid and you're out being a fuck car. A hundred percent. And that was also, you know, when I remember in that time frame,

her whole world was just at our house because we're living in France. Yeah. You know? Yeah, she has no family, no friends. And I was like, look. She's just at home raising a baby while you're out fucking around i understand okay i'm just painting a picture i've i've spoken to her as well i've gotten her side of the story so i understand both sides as i've spoken to both of you so because she's not here to speak for herself

i'm just speaking i appreciate that, and even then, and it's only until now I realized my actions and my, and the results from that. Yeah. And so anyway, we finished up in France, the club folds, we're in a bad position. So we go back to Australia. And at this point, our relationship has been on the rocks for a while. It still is on the rocks and it has nothing to do with her and everything to do with me a hundred percent. Yeah. And so then we, uh, we go to counseling. I don't think I've heard a counselor be like, you guys shouldn't be together.

You're clinically depressed, to myself. I was clinically depressed. He goes, you should take some antibiotics. Now, if you have known me, I try to avoid the word depression. I try to avoid anxiety, and I'm very optimistic about life. And even then I was, even though I was naive. I don't think you can take an antibiotic. I think you mean like a prescription. Yeah, a prescription.

Summer's on antibiotics right now. Sorry. Yeah. A prescription to pick you up. Anyway, that happened. And through that, I think that was the darkest times for both of us because we both resented each other a lot. And then kids were involved. And then during this time, we go to separate again, where we find out we're pregnant. But we're not just like two weeks pregnant. We're 13, 14 weeks pregnant. When you found out. When we found out. And we were just like, what? We're not being back together? Like, this isn't well, I think it was like a soft week where like there was like a month in there was like, we'll make this work. I know for a fact, I think it was like a soft week where like there was like a month in there. I was like, we'll make this work. I know for a fact, I think I felt like that.

And I tried to convince myself that that was the right thing to do. But at that point, an abortion was off the cards. We saw a full fetus when we had the ultrasound. Like in your second trimester. So then exactly, right? So that was just in there. But we both knew that we didn't want to be together with each other because it was a very toxic relationship.

And because I brought the toxicity. She was just trying to be the caregiving mom she was. I was the asshole in this whole thing. I get it. I am. Also, this was when you were 19, 20 years old, 21. You were very young. And that's not who you are now at 31 people do change i think i

was like 22 now honey regardless i'm just saying that you're not the same person you were then so when so many people have said how could you be okay with this knowing his past your past is your past i've spoken to your ex She has told me everything that you actually had already told me. I just listened and let her speak because I wanted her to be heard. But she didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I know that you are not that same person. Yeah. So I just want to point that out. Well, I think I wanted to just get to in this, like this is a long-winded storyline. I'm sorry, but I wanted to highlight the fact that throughout these issues, I created every single one of them. So I built her nightmare and I understand that I

wasn't a good person for her at all. And then in that lessons, I didn't think I was a good person for the kids. So during this transition of me, us being separated, I moved to a different state. I was playing rugby there. The kids came down. So when you say a different state, for those of us Americans, okay. So in Australia, there are different- We got states. Not 50 of them, but we got some. Right. Okay. But yeah, so I was in another state working, playing rugby. We were talking, communicating. She was coming down. And then during her pregnancy with my girl, I had an argument. This is where I believe this is what kicked it off. This is what kicked off the domestic violence order. I had an argument with her dad. This was nearly just over two years later from the initial incident stated in domestic violence

order. I had an argument with her dad and I told him, you're never going to stop me from seeing my kids. And then from that led a domestic violence charge against me from a different state. Now, this is the part where it gets interesting and it's annoying that I have to say it like this, but this is what happened. She submitted her case, wrote it all out, submitted it. There was truth to it because it was an incident two years ago, two years earlier. Then there was other truths to it about my family being raised in a separate domestic violence house and all this. It was all truth, but it was a lot more like eccentric, exaggerated a lot more. So the problem was when she served me with my papers to appear for this domestic violence order, the officer that got served to give it to me was on

vacation. So for two weeks, I was meant to get served papers, didn't get served papers. Then two months later, cops knock at my mom's door, serving her with a order because I didn't appear in court. Here, this is put in place. It's domestic violence order. My mom freaks out, calls me. She's like, did you know about this? I say, no. Tried to contact the kid's mom. Then at that point, I had to now go talk to a lawyer. So the reason why that domestic violence order got upheld was because I didn't appear in court because I didn't get served the first time. Once I was served, once it was processed, and I found out about it, the cops went to my mom's house, they served me. And they said, look, this is what happened. This is what you need to do. You need to go to the court and appeal it. So the soonest we could,

we went through that. I think it took five months to go through that transition. I went to court. I missed Winter's birth during that. And then we went to court and the judge literally, I went up, I didn't have a lawyer. She had a lawyer. I couldn't afford a lawyer. Went up, spoke to the judge and in front of everybody. And he's like, listen, like this sounds like a domestic relationship. It sounds like it got bad, but there's no history of me ever being violent, having any criminal record before. So it got dropped on one condition that if anything happened in the future going forward, that this could come back and be brought straight back as evidence. Perfect.

Not a problem. Cause you know, obviously it happened two years earlier. Perfect. Not a problem. Because, you know, obviously it happened two years earlier, my tendencies to be verbally abusive and emotionally abusive with my actions. That was the characteristics in it. And I'm not happy about it, guys. But just know that that was just a part of the issue that had to get lifted. Once we got it lifted, during that time, we were working on a relationship. I had plans to come to America. I had the support. I came over here. And then in 2015, the kids came over here with me when I was at school. And then they came over for eight weeks, I believe it was. We took them around California. We went to SeaWorld. Sorry, honey.

It was good. It was great. We had some fun. And I was really working towards doing something better. I had a scholarship at a college. Where I came from, guys, and I mentioned this in the last episode, like I didn't come from when I said sucking a dick for a Range Rover. What I meant to say was you don't see many Range Rovers driving around in my low-income areas where I'm from. Now, that's not an excuse to go out and have kids and then just abandon my children, which is the comments I'm getting. I truly believed the person that I was with my ex

wasn't a good person because of the emotional drama we did to each other. And I truly believe that when we were separated, before I left for here, the kids had a stepdad, Jonas came into the picture and he provided a better lifestyle for them. He housed them.

He was a better dad for the kids than me. And I truly believed believed and you can call it what it is but i believe my ex when she was saying you know you're a bad dad you're a bad person i know when you're around the kids and i was like look i'm trying to do stuff here with but my actions keep fucking up stuff right and for me that was that was kind of that was that was my that was my that's my reasoning i wasn't a that's my reasoning. I wasn't a good person. That's why I didn't see it. The kids have, but yeah, the kids that were in a bit, they are in a better situation.

And their stepdad is still in the picture. They have a kid together and they're doing really good. And I, I was, I always just felt like I didn't deserve that, even though it's a cop out. I'm sorry. just felt like I didn't deserve that even though it's a cop out I'm sorry but I felt like my feelings weren't entitled to it because I have a history of just fucking things up yeah so that is the storyline now we come through during that time I was over here I was a fuck up I wasn't sending her money because I wasn't getting seen the kids and then I got into the shitty little argument with her where I was like well if I don't see the kids photos or anything like that,

why am I going to send you money? That's stupid. That is stupid. That's just like a beacon of why I was such an absolute fuck up was because, Hey, you couldn't see that this wasn't about the money. It was literally the support for the kids. And I couldn't see that. Yeah. Okay. And I see that a lot more now, especially being around you of summer. But yeah, I didn't see that back then. I'm a different, I see things completely differently. And you guys can cast the first stones. You guys can have, you can, you're entitled to your opinions, but guess what? As long as I can make up for lost time with these kids, because that's the biggest picture and problem in this. And I just want to get to a better relationship with them. Your opinions along the way, I appreciate them and the support plus

also the, not the insults, but just your opinions, guys. They're fine. They're valid. But just know I cannot, it's not the fact I can't see my kids now because of domestic violence. I cannot see my kids now because I was a bad person to my kid's mother and a bad role model for my kids. And they are in a better environment without me in it. Now I've been working on myself. That is, I think, my timeline and my winded story, guys. I just wanted to kind of, I wanted to say two things. to explain all of this because no interview or TV show or anything is ever going to allow for such a long-winded full I think I think I think if I could give you guys like a one if I give you a

one minute one sentence or a 10 second thing it's like guys I was a bad person I wasn't doing the right things in life and my kids were in a better environment with their stepdad and his family than my family and the kid's mother saw that so she took responsibility of her kids our kids and took that upon herself to put them in a safe environment so i respected that decision and now we're at a point where i i understand that decision and that hurts it fucking breaks my heart but that that's the long-winded 10 second version of that but you are working to pay back the past child support well naively because i've assumed i wasn't having access to my kids i assumed i didn't have child support now i didn't i didn't it's stupid i yes you do not hear the things I used to do?

So when I was finally on my feet over here, didn't make the NFL, ended up in an upper gym, I got a call from child support back in 2019. They're like, oh, hey, Mr. Rock Davies, we're trying to find you. And I said to him, I was like, look, I had no idea that I owed the government. I don't owe my ex child support. The government have already paid on a monthly, on a weekly, biweekly thing i saw it they just like look like well we do okay you've got a lot of bills and you've also got what you owe us if you pay us back what you owe us you get rid of your bills you know and that's it and then um yeah so i just wanted to you know i didn't yeah i didn't know that that was the case because i wasn't have access

to the kids i'd had no access to the kids at that point once they made that know that that was the case because I wasn't have access to the kids. I had no access to the kids at that point. Once they made that decision that I was a really bad person for the kids life, they made it very, very difficult for me to be involved in their life by just keeping me out of it, which they have their rights to. So yeah. Okay. What's the next question? I think you just buried a lot of it.

I think that you didn't acknowledge your feelings. I think that you just were like, I did something bad. I walked away from it. And now like I deserve bad things to happen to me and I don't deserve happiness. You're right. I didn't understand. And you know me very well. Like I bury my shit.

Yeah. I kind of, I call it compartmentalize and I'm woke, you know, I'm just dealing with my thing. Because first year of filming on a national television show, I wouldn't think I would be this open. Okay, guys. And I wouldn't think, and I know, I mean, it looks shady, but I was open. I was open. I was honest.

And I can't wait to actually see, because you guys, this is the first time I spoke about, I said this multiple times, but this is the first time I had a breakthrough moment for me, which was just talking about it. I promise you, you won't understand anything I said because I was fucking crying like a little kid, but I got it out and I said like three or four words and hopefully you pick it up. But I really just having that conversation. And then even if it wasn't like, oh yeah, I don't need validation. I just needed to talk to somebody. And I did it on a national platform. Came up to me after he was like, you need to go see somebody. He's like, that stuff is deep, deep. And he was completely correct. Yeah, later on,

we get to go talk. And only today and only now, moving forward, have I been able to be a little bit more open about talking about it. Yeah. Because it was never my ex's issues. It was always mine that just really just destroyed her, destroyed our family. Well, I think you acknowledging that and knowing all of those things, knowing that, you know, it wasn't her, it was you. I wish I was different, but I wasn't, guys. Yeah.

I'm just saying that I am proud of you for acknowledging all of this because I think that this is going to just make you an even better person. And I love you for the look. You don't even have to say anything like that, honey, because the reason why I've changed is because the months and months and months of love and support you've given me. And that makes you feel safe. Yeah. So it means like I don't need to bury my things down. So I got you. You have, and it's, and it's, I appreciate you. Next question. I'll try and keep them short from now on. What does your mom and family think about

everything that's coming out right now? The problem with your mom is it's your mother. So not my mom. I know I'm talking about my mom. your mom is it's your mother. No, not my mom. I know. I'm talking about my mom. Oh, right. I'm saying this is your mother. So my mother was through this with us and she is going to have her side of the opinion because she never saw the shit I was doing.

She never saw me sexting on dating apps. She never saw me like going to bars and flirting with people. So my mom only saw from what outside would see. Right. And so because of that, she does have a very biased opinion on it. And I try and remind my mom timely and timely. But my mom also, again, our situation in our family, guys, is my mom is a single mother of five.

And she still works to this day, 12-hour shifts, five days a week. She works her ass off and she has to, because we're not in a position to have, we don't have anything in the bank account. We didn't, we still never have. And, and even then, like my mom, she, my ex would ask for support for weekends and get the kids. And my mom would have to say no sometimes. And that was very triggering for my ex. She's like, I don't have your son here. I don't have any help and you can't even step up. And my mom took offense to that, but my mom didn't realize my past with her. So my mom now seeing it on national television, she's not impressed. She gets upset. She was crying the other day, but she also,

she has her own versions of it, but it's unfortunately in this situation, my ex is in the right situation. She did the right thing for the kids. Yeah. Coco underscore 15 wants to know, what will you tell Summer Moon about her siblings? Everything. That's the problem, guys. You think I'm going to tell Lala about my domestic violence order and hide something from my kid? Oh, no. Yeah. I just thought this was a good question because i mean she's six months old she doesn't understand anything but we talk about that listen if you guys would ever see which you will see in a future a side by side of my two girls oh my god well first of all brock has a type so genetically the girls have the same genes genetically the girls, the girls are very similar. Okay. And I mean, they'll grow up and they'll grow into their own persons.

But I really look forward to building that relationship with the kids. And look, they've already got a stepsister in Australia. Now Eli has three sisters, the poor boy. But, you know, hopefully we have a, what's a good word for this? Not a multicultural, but a blended family. I really want to work towards that because I'm not 19 anymore. And I look forward to making, apologizing and just working towards a better relationship. And like I said, I think I said this at the tea party, but when I spoke to your ex in

December, she had said, once you catch up on the child support and you know, we're able to travel again, that you can have access to the kids again. But at this point, they're old enough to make that decision. And now, now we're going into the, it's not what I want right now. It's not about you. It's never been about me. And that's the thing. And so she's made that very clear that once the kids have that interest, it will be there. Now I would like, but I have no rights to say anything else about that. So I'm okay with that. But the reason why it's child support, it's like, look, it's simple. Brock, you've changed. How about you just pay your bills? That's all she ever wanted

from me. If I couldn't be there supporting her, financially support her. And I couldn't even do that. So yeah. And I just want to point out that like i don't condone any of that past behavior it's not like you told me all these things i'm like oh my god like when lala was like oh this is the person who i want to have my kids it wasn't like all you're because you're not that person anymore yeah here we are doing the best we can yeah simply underscore david underscore c our boy, you know, David. Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Huddles David. He wants to know if you can explain how different the laws in Australia are compared to the U.S. So in the U.S., I believe a lot of people are writing like it's a very female-friendly laws in America. The mother has a lot of rights. In Australia, it's the complete opposite. I have the rights too, but it's the kid's rights to both parents. But during those conversations, during this thing, again, I thought, I truly believe the kids were in a better position without me in their lives. I believe that to the core, which gets me more upset.

Because I couldn't step up and do that because pathetic weak whatever words you want to put out there like that's how I felt so yeah the laws in Australia are very open they're very as long as the kids as long as I'm not a fuck up but I generally thought I was a fuck up I had nothing to offer the kids I couldn't support them I couldn't do anything I couldn't support myself but you also know that you could have handled that situation a lot better I could have I could have literally like look the problem and I said this other day, the problem with me was I was chasing a dream that I could, I could, I've stopped now, but like I could stop, stop chasing the dream and just go into the workforce. I would be in leaps and bounds ahead of myself where I am, as opposed to going to

the workforce three years ago, you know? And that was, that was something that I struggled with being an athlete and trying to translate across to working and i still do it today i just played a rugby game three months ago it's it was less than three months ago two months ago yeah it was like last month that was like september okay perfect i still haven't got out of it but i'm trying to transition out of that it's a mindset that that that slope it put me behind the eight ball a lot like think about that amount of dedication and time you put into doing sports, thinking you want to do it because that's what I thought would be the winner. I'm not intelligent.

I'm book smart. Like that's not what I had. I had brute force. Yeah. And I didn't want to go back on a farm and be a dairy. Like I didn't want that. But I just couldn't do that. My whole family, like, yeah, my mom still works her fucking ass off right now it's ridiculous yeah anyway

yeah so david the laws are very open it's very it's very opposite to america but i generally believed i was not in a position to do anything with the kids yeah well you guys will continue We'll continue to see more of Brock's story unfold this season, Tuesday nights, 9 p.m., only by Bravo. And until then, oh, be sure to check us out on Watch What Happens Live Tuesday night because we're going back to New York. And this will be the first time we're both away from summer. Well, hey, at least her mom knows when she's sick, so we're good. Yeah, she is in the best hands. But yeah, we're, we're both going to be away.

Let's see. It's a long week away from that. So guys, yeah, look, I appreciate the criticism. I appreciate the support. I appreciate all of it. And thanks for your guys time, you know, Thanks for your guys' time, you know? And I appreciate the constructive criticism and opinions that help us and make us better people. I don't appreciate the trolls that just say nasty shit just to say shit. But there are a lot of things that people have given their opinions about that actually have either helped me grow as a person, helped me parent in a situation a little better looked at things a little differently so for that i do appreciate yeah guys you think we're gonna make it to that you think i'm gonna make it to the end of the season without getting

a child support done and dusted you guys put so much accountability on our actions like just know that your words even if you think you're just like somebody writing to us like your words affect multiple people that are on social media like you don't think you're just like somebody writing to us, like your words affect multiple people that are on social media. Like you don't think you can just like say stuff like to Sheena or something like that. And we don't notice it. Yeah. Because I'll tell you what, Sheena will notice that one comment out of a hundred that's negative and she'll dwell on it and she'll think on it and she won't, she'll make sure she never does it again. And you know,

that's called accountability. And on our platform, on our platform that we now have, it's a fucking lot of accountability. And that was one thing why I chose to talk about it because I wanted to tell my truths. And I was going to stand in front of a bullet and tell it. It gets a little bit more twisted as we can't put full conversations in an episode. But here we are, baby. All right. Well, thank you guys so much for listening.

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