Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - This is Dating with Hiwote and Jesse

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Scheana and Cortney talk to Jesse Baker and Hiwote Getaneh, the producers of the “This is Dating” Podcast. The podcast follows four modern daters as they go on curated virtual first dates with a team of producers and a dating coach listening behind the scenes. In this episode, they also discuss dating apps, when to use dating coaches, what to do on a first date and what to absolutely avoid. Scheana opens up about why she never used a dating app and Cortney shares a dating app trick that she discovered! Tune in to hear all about the world of dating in 2022.   Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana     Go to www.greenchef.com/shay130 and use code shay130 to get $130 off, plus free shipping!        Produced by Dear Media See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. scientists, renaissance men and women, what their last meal on earth would be and why. So don't forget to tune in on Fridays. You can find us anywhere you can listen to podcasts. So why not? Let me tell you about the last meal. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. Because we're good as gold. What's up, everyone? Welcome back to Shenanigans. We're doing another Zoom interview today with two ladies from the This Is Dating podcast. Now, I have so many questions about this dating podcast. My sister and I started listening to it last night. I want to know

all about it. And I mean, you know, dating in 2022 is different than dating back in the day. For real. Yeah. So my sister Courtney is here to co-host. We have Jesse Baker and also Huete. Did I say that correctly? Yeah. Yeah. Huete Gitana. Awesome. Beautiful name. How are you ladies? I'm great. I was just before we started recording, I was just telling everyone I binge watch Vanderpump Rules. Well, thank you. What season? Like the current season or did you go like way back? Current season. Gotcha.

Okay, so you're caught up. Oh, she's up to date. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not all caught up, but I think I'm on episode like seven or eight. Okay. Nice, nice. Well, you still have like half the season ahead, so enjoy. Yeah.

Okay, so tell me what it's like to create this dating podcast. Where did you get the idea? How like, were you ladies already friends before? I really want to know how this all started. Yeah. I'll let Jesse tell the story of how we created it, but we had our own very like cute meet cute. We met on the train in New York city. very like cute, meet cute. We met on the train in New York City. And so we started working together and became friends very quickly after that, maybe three years ago at this point, Jessie. Is that right? Yeah, I think so. That sounds about right. Kewati and I met on the train platform. I walked up to her and a bunch of other friends and I asked them a question about an event we had been at. And then I excused myself because I was like, this is obviously weird for this woman to just be interrupting

your conversation with your friends. I'm going to stand over here on the train. And Jyoti came over once the train started moving and she said, hey, I make a podcast. Would you listen to it? Because I had introduced myself as I make podcasts. This is what I do. And that's why I asked her this question. And I was like, yes, I will listen to your podcast. What's it called? She gave it to me. I put it in my phone and her phone number and yeah, kind of the rest is history. And at that point, Jessie was making, where should we begin with Astaire Perel? Have you guys heard of it? No, I haven't. So it's a really great couples therapy show where you sit in on couples therapy sessions with a woman, a therapist. Her name is Esther Perel.

OK, so you can kind of see the similarities between that and like sitting in on couples first dates, which explains Jesse is the common thread. Gotcha. Interesting. That reminds me. We were just talking about that. We watched this reality show, Married at First Sight, and you and Brock, her boyfriend, were watching it and they were sitting in on a couple's, what was it? We literally were. Yeah. It was like they're,

I mean, maybe 10 days into, have you seen the show? Yes. Yeah. It's so stressful. So I've never watched it until this season. My sister got me hooked on it. So they're like, I don't know, 10 days into marriage. They had just gotten back from their honeymoon and they had the pastor come over and check in just to see like how things were going. And my fiance and I are sitting here watching it. He had just got home from the gym. I honestly put on this show because I was like,

oh, he's going to want to watch these other ones with me. So I'll watch this while he's at the gym. He walks in and he sits down. He's like, is this love at first sight? And I was like, Oh, he's going to want to watch these other ones with me. So I'll watch this while he's at the gym. He walks in and he sits down and he's like, is this love at first sight? And I was like, I was married at first sight, but yeah, it's what you're thinking of. And he's like, Oh, okay. He's like, wait, I want to catch up. And so then he sits down and he starts watching it with me. And one of the couples, the lessons they're getting from this pastor, he's like, wait, we can apply this in our life. And so then the new episode last night, he wanted to watch it with us because it was like exactly what you're saying, sitting in,

watching someone else's couples therapy. But he's like, wait, we've been searching for a therapist and have yet to find one that's accepting new patients or clients right now. So he's like, we just need to watch Married at First Sight to get our own, you know, free couples therapy right now. Yeah. Our equivalent of a therapist, and it's not a therapist, but the person who helps the daters is a dating coach. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's different from like, you know, once you've been in a relationship with someone and you want someone to help you work through the kinks, if that feels like a different ask, then when you are single and looking to be partnered and not sure what's blocking you from that, I think a dating coach is, you know, the right way to go for that.

Totally. So how did you guys meet the dating coach? At South by Southwest a million years ago. I love to meet people and get into their heads and figure out what they're about and then call them on the phone years later and say, hey, I have this thing that I'm working on. I remembered you liked X. Do you want to work on this? You know? So, um, Logan had been in my life for a while and I knew she was a dating coach. She's also, um, a behavioral scientist. So she kind of brings both of those aspects to the show. Um, and then that way, so let me actually back this up. The show is essentially we set up four different daters from kind of around the country, different sexual orientations, you know, different reasons for why they think they're single. And we set them up a couple of times over the season. So you hear the same person going out on dates and you also hear them being coached before the date and after the date so that you hear a little bit of how the advice plays out

in the dates. And then the producer role, like Huate and I, we write questions and we come up with scenarios for their dates so that they don't just sit there and ask the same six things that they ask on every single date. We try to spice it up a little bit. Okay. Yeah. It's giving like reality show, but in podcast form. Totally. When we were first like looking up your podcast and everything and listening to the first few episodes, we were like, oh, this is so interesting. Cause it's like in a normal podcast scenario, you guys would be the hosts, but I'm like, they're producers. It literally is like an audio form of a reality show. I love it. Totally. You're just a fly on the wall on other people's dates. Yeah. And I mean, I think we like we were building the show as we went and we never set out to be the hosts of a show. So when we think about the show, we think about it

as a hostless show like it is a show with producers and daters. And the focus is really on the daters. OK, their growth. Yeah. So how did you cast these eligible singles? Are they friends of yours? Did you do just like an open casting call or how did this come about? All of the above. Okay. So like you need help. Everyone is like one degree of separation away from someone on the show. We like literally called the hot men we knew who and been like, do you, do you have a brother? Um, do you have any single friends? Yeah, we did a lot of, and we did, we did all the appropriate channels. And then we also did inappropriate channels so that we could find kind of the best matches for people. Um, on these days that were there people that you were like, Oh, we're not going to be able to help them? Were there any of those? Yeah. Yeah, there were. I think there were quite a few people who actually wanted a therapist's help and not necessarily just help with their dating life.

And so that felt like that's not something that is the right fit, at least for this particular moment. It might be in the future. is the right fit, at least for this particular moment? It might be in the future. And then there were also people who were just really happy to be single and didn't really want help from a coach. And so that felt like, OK, that's not the right fit. So how are these dates being recorded? Because we're hearing the audio from first date. So is this just like a voice memo app on their phone? Are you guys listening in live? Is there an earpiece? Are you giving him like, you know, what is it like behind the scenes of doing this as dating? Yeah. Are the daters like upfront that they're recording the date? Like, I feel like they have to, you have to give consent with everything. Yeah. I mean, we, we definitely, um, try to prep them for what the hell this is going to be

so that they all walk into this knowing that they're being recorded. So we're not blindsiding anyone. And the screen kind of looks like this, like how we're seeing you guys. Um, except for we use the chat function a lot. Um, we see each other at the beginning of the date so that they know who's eavesdropping on them because we don't want to be total weirdos. But then we turn off the cameras and they pin themselves. So they're just looking at each other and we are trying to guide the conversation. We're not, we're not total jerks about it. Moderators. Yeah. Yeah. But we ask like, the dates are kind of in segments.

So like we start off with some fun warm up questions, like depending on who you are. But we might ask, like, are you ticklish or where are you ticklish? Breaking the rules, fun or frightening. Just some kind of like playful things. And then we build to the much deeper shit where we get very into your head and into your space and sometimes about your past relationships. But we want to kind of start gradually so that you feel more open at the end of the day. And our goal is really to land you in a place of connection. So like we never I think this is a big way in which we differ from most reality shows.

It's like the promise is not that you will find the love of your life. It's the focus is we'll try and curate a space for you to have fun and connect with this person. What you choose to do beyond this first date, that's all you. Okay. So for those listening, are you guys accepting like open applications for singles? Is this is obviously something, you know, it's virtual, so it can be done from anywhere. Where are most of your daters located and are you open to meeting new ones? So we launched the show mid-January and we said at the end of every episode, we're like, if you want to apply, here's how, which is just so everyone who's listening knows you go to thisisdatingpodcast.com. There's an application, not very, not very intrusive. We have about 800 applicants so far. Wow. Congratulations. And they're from everywhere. I mean, like I just was reading a woman from

Lithuania who applied. So yeah, you can apply from anywhere. But the real question is, and it's something that like we're thinking about for second season, if we're making matches and we're pairing you up for a date and you want to go on a second date with someone you meet on the show, you don't really want them to live in Vilnius if you live in Chicago. Like that's tricky, you know? Right. Totally. But it depends. It seems like the people who live in bigger cities want to be matched with people who live in bigger cities. But then the people who live more in more rural communities are like,

I would date someone in Vilnius, you know? So it sort of really depends on the location of the person on the date. I think that a lot of people who see themselves already on the show tend to apply. And like a big thing we're looking for is diversity in applicants. So we're open to all kinds of people. Someone wrote in saying like, can I apply even though I'm asexual or I'm aromantic? And I was like, totally, 100% you can apply, you know? So, yeah, we really want applicants who want help and who want to be set up more than a specific kind of person. Although we need men. We need lots of men. Men, please apply.

We have a lot of single women. We need some men who want to be set up. Yeah. Men are probably embarrassed to, like, ask for help. You know, they're probably like, I don't need help dating. It's an ego thing. Yeah. Yeah. Men are probably embarrassed to like ask for help. You know, they're probably like, I don't need help dating. Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't ask for directions. So they wouldn't Oh my God. My fiance is the worst, right? Oh my God. Totally. Okay. So wait, so all of these dates are virtual first dates. So are you open to ever expanding this podcast into in-person dates? Like, you know, the first one's virtual, then the second or third date maybe is in person.

How do you think that the show could expand in that sense? Yeah, I mean, I think COVID put really strict parameters on what we could do first season. And yeah, I think our brains are already starting to go into that space. Like would we, maybe the team flies to Milwaukee because that's where the daters are. And we like set a couple of people up over a weekend, you know, and we, we'd have to like rent a restaurant or something, who knows. But yeah, we definitely, we definitely want, I mean, I hope COVID allows us to do that too. I think it's starting to go in that direction where things are opening up more and it would

be easier for traveling and all of that. Because that would be so interesting to see just the progression, you know, of relationships that start out on a virtual first date, having some help and then can just, you know, end up in person. I think the listeners would love that too. Yeah. Seeing someone go from their first date. Totally. To, yeah, meeting in person. Yeah, I think so too. And you know what would be a great second date to do in person? Like you could have the other person over to your house and cook a meal. And the way you can make this easy but still, you know, show off your

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correct? Yes. I will say, I mean, one of the things I think she really pushes in a great way is to be less judgy about the people you're going out with. Like get over the way they look in their profile picture that you don't like their haircut or whatever, or the silly t-shirt they have on, like worry less about what their profile says about them and show up for them on the date. Have an open mind. Don't walk in thinking like, oh, this is going to be 15 minutes and I'm out of here. Walk in with, I want to know something about this person that I could not have found on their, on their hinge application, you know? Gotcha. And I would say like, even when I, so when I was dating pre Logan, I probably wasn't super, super judgmental

about stuff like that. But the thing that dramatically changed for me after working with Logan is saying yes to a second date. Like before it used to be like something really spectacular needed to have happened for me to say yes to a second date. And now it's more like unless there are any red flags, I'll say yes to a second date. If, you know, I don't feel like it after or the vibes just aren't there or whatever after that, that's different. But it's just been good to see that people are not the same when you meet them a first and second time. Yeah, totally. Especially when people are so nervous the first time too. Yeah. Like no one is really themselves on a first date. No. I, yeah, I can't even remember the last first date I went on. Cause I don't think Brock and I didn't really like go on a date. Neither did my boyfriend. We met ours

at music festivals. So that was the first first day I guess that was the first day and then you're kind of stuck with someone for a few days like I met my boy my now boyfriend we've been together for almost five years on day one so then we just had three days to hang out like the whole time yeah it kind of forces you into it I felt like yeah I met mine after day two and then we went to day three together so that's but maybe that's the way to do it like you you have the I was just built in like second and third date automatically because you can't get away from them right this is season two of this is dating you guys yeah find people that are going to the same music festival and have them meet up oh my god right what music

festivals did you guys meet your boyfriends at? Hers was Coachella. Mine was Caboo down here in San Diego. Okay. Very good to know. I would love a little festival season. I'm so here for this now. Yeah. They have to pay their own way.

That's the catch. Yeah. Well, see, this is what I love about y'all's podcast is I feel like the possibilities are endless. Like you have a great concept. You have, you know, people like Logan, who's the head of relationship science for Hinge behind it, as well as you ladies.

So it can go so many places. The fact that you already have 800 applicants and shenanigans hasn't even aired yet. Just wait, they're going to come on in. I have some friends that I could see if they would be down for this. We're going to do a in. I have some friends that I could see if they would be down for this. We're going to do a D-chella. Yeah.

Love that. I feel like there's also just so many like outlets that we look at people's relationships and we watch people dating. Like there's the joke that we soft launch boyfriends now on Instagram. You know, like we're watching people's relationships in so many other places already that like we can have an added look into this. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So what are your opinions on dating apps for those out there who aren't ready to do this virtual? This is dating. What do you think are the best, the worst, the pros, the cons? you think are the best, the worst, the pros, the cons? Because I personally and my sister as well,

we've never been on a dating app ourselves. I've swiped on my friends. I'm like, oh, can I play Tinder? And I'm like, no, no. I have used them once. Sorry to cut off this question. So me and my friends, this is when I'm like, I'm like 20 years old at the time. But what we would do, we would use it to meet people in person. We'd be at like a party where we'd see people that we were interested in. Oh, I didn't know this. I didn't know this party. I would turn them on one mile hoping I would see someone who was already at this party because then you could like potentially match with them. And then I could maybe go up to them at the party and be like, oh, my God, like we match

like or something like that. It was an icebreaker for me. It didn't actually work ever? Yeah. There was a couple of times I did this when I was like at a concert or a show and I matched with the singer and it never went anywhere. But it definitely boosted my ego. And I don't think I don't think for the party aspect I ever did anything with it, but it was good in theory. OK, so we're not good judges of which apps are better than others, mostly because Jesse is married and I have been on dating apps for now a year and a half, a year and a half. So this is, and I've really only used like two of them.

One was, I just don't want to name names because I feel like I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. Yeah. I felt like there was one that felt pretty steady. So that's the app that I'm still on. But I do think there are some like pros and some cons that I can definitely talk about. The biggest con is like swipe fatigue and dating fatigue from like I match with tons of people. But then the number of people that I actually go out on a date with and maybe this is my toxic trait. But there comes a point where I'm like, oh, I don't even want to respond. Like I don't even want to engage because you've just swiped on so many people and you've had these like short conversations with so many people that you're like, am I really going to keep doing it? Like, how many times am I going to keep doing this

before I'm just over the whole thing and delete the app? So right. Swipe fatigue, dating fatigue. That's very, very real. I think that you I mean, my way of dealing with it is basically just listening to my body and being like, if I'm exhausted by this, I'm just not going to do it. And when I am excited by it again, then I'll do it. And when I am excited by it, I'm a, I'm a good sport about the whole thing. Like I'm not offended if someone doesn't respond to my message, I understand they're probably going through the same thing I just went through, you know, a month ago. But the pro is like, you just meet so many people you might never have met in another context. Like I turned it on when I got to Brooklyn and I was like, oh, this is so funny because I used to live in Harlem and I've never seen any of these people because,

you know, like I just was in a relationship and the people that I would see from my little world, it was so limited. But then you turn the dating app on and you're like, there are all of these people that I could potentially be a good partner for. Yeah. There's so much access. I feel like you have access to everyone. We have too much access. A little too much. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. I was never like against dating apps, but I think I just felt like for me personally, if someone like, how would I know they're swiping for the right reasons? You know, if they're like, oh, she's on a TV show, you know, I want to swipe right. Is it right or left? Right. It's good. Left is bad. Okay. Yeah. You know, like, are they swiping right? Because

they want to get some screen time, you know, because they think I have all this money. I just was very old fashioned in the sense when I was single, like I want to meet people in person, like through a friend. But then I was like also kind of envious of my friends who were on these dating apps because I'm like, I wish I could have that experience. But I just was too self-conscious that people wouldn't be wanting to see me for the right reasons. Well, you probably could have got on Raya because Raya was picky for a while, right? It was. It was like Raya was like the one that seemed like it was like the elite one

of the dating apps. Has that changed? Because I still feel like people are talking about Raya like it's something special. But I just feel like they let anyone on it now. What were the standards to get on before? I thought like you had to have a verified profile. I think like at least I think I applied like six years ago or something and I got

waitlisted and that hurt my feelings. But my old boss, she had over three million followers and I know she also was waitlisted. Like I feel like people who may have applied so long ago, like slipped through the cracks and there's no option to reapply. But I think at least a while ago, like however many years ago this was, was like your Instagram handle and then like three referrals or something where people that were already on the app. So a lot of my friends are in the music industry and these people don't have large followings whatsoever. But I think they're so well connected now in the industry that they work in. And that's how a lot of people have been able to get on the platform now. Yeah. It's really interesting because,

you know, to it's like the opposite of what you were saying, where part of my hesitation with apps like that is like elitism just makes my skin crawl. And so I'm like any app like the league is like that where it's like you have to I don't actually know the details, but I think you have to submit a resume. And I'm like, it's crazy. I mean, that's absolutely good if it does show you're not not a work resume. But I feel like you should have to like write up a little cover letter to let them know your intention. No, to like say where you went to school. Yeah, no, I don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. So but I might be wrong. So like, let's not get anyone sued. I just mean anything that shows that like you have to be. I don't know. Like, you also don't want to match with everyone. It's it's a catch 22. I can acknowledge that for sure. But there's a part of me that's like, I don't really know that I need to be matched with someone that went to a specific school or has a certain number of followers in order to meet, you know, just like decent people.

Some people might be on Raya just because they wanted to see if they'd get accepted to be on Raya. And I feel like that's probably how a lot of people on that app specifically are there for. They did it just to like feed their ego. Like, oh, Raya accepted me. Totally. for. They did it just to like feed their ego. Like, oh, they accepted me. So totally. What would you say are some like tips and tricks for daters who want to put themselves out there and find a great connection, but just don't really know how? Yeah. For all of like the 800 people that you can't select everyone. What are some tips you can take home? Just like put yourself

out there. You know, what, what do you guys think? just like put yourself out there you know what what do you guys think so I'm the luckiest dater in the world because I tell Jessie this all the time she is like the cousin that I always needed to like guide me on my dating life she's just the best dater I know even though she's married and I don't mean that by like dating other people but dating other men but she is very friendly and so good at making connections with people and making that be easy, you know? So Jesse, I think you need to give us some tips. Yeah. I mean, I think you're right. Like I do date all the time, but I date in a different capacity. And I feel like we all do. Like we all go out on dates and

feel like, who do we have chemistry with? And it doesn't have to be sexual energy. It can be like, I think I just found my new best friend. Or like you need to have a chemistry with your babysitter or your nanny. You know, you're going to trust this person with the thing you care about the most in the world, the person you care about. Yeah. So you're taking your nanny applications on dates. And that needs to work. That needs to be a functioning relationship that feels that both people feel good about. So I think like dating

happens in weird, surprising ways. Um, some tips, I mean, first of all, you just got to go out on the dates. You got to get yourself up and out and out there. And to Huete's point, you say yes, even if the first date, unless there were some serious, serious red flags, um, which that, that happens. So we, yes, that, that happens. But if they were just like kind of yellow flags or something, um, say yes to the next date. Cause you might just completely surprise yourself. Um, the other thing I think we picked up from Logan too is like, stop treating these like they're job interviews. You know, like think about something you've never been asked on a date and ask it. Or do stuff on a date. Don't go to the bar. Don't do that. Like go to the music festival. To your point, like you were doing something. There was, you know,

take a walk, go roller skating like we did in fifth grade. You know, like just do something that gets your body moving and puts you out in the world in a different way. So you're not just like sitting and staring and being judgmental about the person sitting across the table from you. Yeah, I feel like you always think of like a first date is like we have to go out to dinner. We have to get drinks. I feel like people don't think about the activity portion of it often enough. And that's a really good tip. We need to normalize it. Yeah. I might be put off like upon first thought, like, oh, he's asking you to go roller skating. Like that's so intimidating. That's a lot for a first

date. But then when you really think about it, it's like, oh, I'd rather do that and like see. Yeah. And I feel like you'd get to see the person's personality more doing certain activities and find out, you know, what they actually like doing. I will say also, like the way that we think about dating, that's like sitting at a bar, going to dinner, et cetera. Like that is a very American approach to dating. And I was living in Lisbon for the last eight months. So I was going on first dates there. And it was so interesting because I just think like dating in Europe is so interesting. Their approach is basically you meet someone. If you like them, you do something with them and then you see them again and then you see them again and again. And then you're a couple, you know, like there's like not a lot more drama to it. And I feel like

when I try to explain to them what American dating is and what the difference between dating and being in a relationship is, they're like, what are you talking about? You know, they're like, why? Why do you do that? You know? Yeah, we have so many different it's like talking and then dating and then in a relationship like Europeans probably wouldn't understand. Oh, yeah. There's so many. It's like we hooked up. It was like, no, we didn't sleep together, but we hooked up. There's so many. Oh, we're not dating. We're just talking. We're talking. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I have a friend who she's like, oh, I'm dating this guy. And I'm like, are you guys dating? Like, did you go on a date? Are you just talking? There's just, there are so many different levels to dating. Situationships are like a whole thing oh yeah yeah it's crazy

try to explain this to like a caveman like right do you know what I think it is I think it's the fact that like in the U.S. a lot of our culture has embedded into it a lot of consumerism. And so in dating, you always want to see what other options are out there, as opposed to in the US you have like or in at least in Portugal, you have like, let's say five options of the different kinds of peanut butter you're going to buy. So you just pick one of the five and you go about your merry way. But when you have 25 options, you're going to take a lot longer just standing in the aisle. And I feel like it's the exact same thing with dating. Definitely. Our pleasure.

Thank you. This has been so interesting. I love the concept of y'all's show. I love that you have so many applicants already. You're about to get so many more. I can feel it. Y'all, this is dating. Download it wherever you get your podcast. Jesse, Huete, thank you so much for coming

on Shenanigans and just, you know, talking about dating in this new world we are in because it's so different and I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Awesome. All right, guys. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea. Download new episodes every week on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Looking fine and I got my girls with me With the boys at the table getting tipsy Miss me, kiss me one more time Get over here boy, I'ma make you mine

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