Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Thriving with Nema Vand

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

Scheana and Jamie are joined by Nema Vand of Bravo’s “Shahs of Sunset”. Spoiler alert - Scheana and Nema previously dated! Their hilarious courtship is revealed and Nema’s in the hot seat when Scheana reads the first dm slide he ever sent her! Now that Nema is bicoastal, the group discuss dating differences between LA and NYC, and a fellow Bravoleb that Nema accidentally ghosted. The ladies finally wear Nema down to divulge his secret dm slide that he claims works every time.  The episode is wrapped with listener questions. What’s the tea with Nema and RHOBH’s Garcelle? You won’t want to miss this! For the video version of this podcast, sign up for the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/scheanashay Follow us @scheananigans @scheana @jamielynne24 @nemavandSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

From Vanderpump Rules to Vegas and everywhere in between, it's time to party with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans, and now here's your host, Sheena Shea. What's up, everyone? We are back getting into some shenanigans and we have our first guest on the show in a hot minute. Jamie Lynn co-hosting Per Juge and our exciting guest. If you guys are watching on Patreon, you've already seen. But for those of you just listening, Mr. Nima Vand. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited you're here. And I think I said this last time and I wasn't sure, but now I'm positive that the record for guests on Shenanigans.

Is this number three, number four? Three or four? Four. Yeah, you have the top. I think so., number four? Three or four. Four. Yeah. Yeah, you have the top. I think so. The top appearing guest. Exclusively at the top. Wow, congratulations.

I hold that title very, it's like very dear to my heart. So please don't ever allow anyone to get near that. Your reward is a glass of rosé when we wrap. I appreciate that. Thank you.

Thank you. We have some rosé actually being delivered to us by someone who is going to be a guest coming up soon. Or maybe like a guest co-host. Yeah, a guest co-host. But I'm not going to say who that person is just yet, but she has been on the podcast before.

So stay tuned. Coming soon. But for now, it's all about Nima. I love that for me. Yes. So, oh my gosh, where do we even start? Like you are now bi-coastal. Yes. So I'm now living the dream LA and New York city. That is such a dream. I disagree. Cause I tried that for

a whole year and the flying back and forth is a pain in the ass. How often do you come back here? I've been in New York now for four and a half months and I've done nine trips to LA. And you're good with that. No, I'm not. It's actually the worst thing in the world. Unfortunately, that's part of being bi-coastal. You have a life here, you have people here and you have to see them. You know, it's great when you can see you guys and it's like fun and it's social, but then there's like work you have to do. So you just got to find a make, you have to sign up for that. You have to know going in, that's what you're going to do and make the best of it. So how long are you in town for?

For a week. And then I fly to Atlanta for a shoot and then I go back to New York City. Fun. See, for me, I mean, also I've never lived in New York, but I remember, I think, oh my God, was it three years ago now? 2019, I think it was when I was there for a Watch What Happens Live episode. It was the one I did with Carl. So I did Watch What Happens Live. The next morning, my mom and I went to meet Carl from Summer House and his mom for lunch. And it was the most beautiful day I had ever been in New

York City. The sun was shining. There was like maybe a cloud in the sky. It was beautiful. And I was like, you know what? I think I want to move here. And then six months later, I met Brock. And six months after that, he knocked me up. And that dream died. But I mean, I'm so happy, obviously. But so that's always been a dream of mine to live in New York. If you guys want to make this whole entire episode of New York City Hyper Real,

like I will do it because the amount that I fuck with New York City, I'm basically one of those like girl bloggers on TikTok. Like every single day that I wake up in New York City, I'm obsessed with something new. I know. I watch your stories. Yeah. Go to the cutest coffee shop. Are you on his close friends or are you guys not that close?

I don't know. You're not on my close friends. I'm probably not. I could upgrade you. That would have been smooth. Thanks, Sheena. No, because I get like the extra insight in his New York life. What is this coffee place that you go to?

It is gorgeous. There's like plants hanging down. It's that's called Mamon King on Hudson. OK, so the thing about the West Village is that it literally looks like you're walking through Paris. It's where they stay in the city, the cobblestone streets. I love that you walk around. So every time I walk anywhere, I have these like pinch myself moments where I'm like,

am I in Paris right now? Do you live in the West Village? Right in the heart of the West Village. So I walk around everywhere. I see everything. The Friends building is two blocks from me. You know, so it's like you just get this like real, you know, LA is so spread out. So you have to have a car to go anywhere.

In New York, you just walk. You see people on every block. There's like a million cafes that are fucking amazing. And it never gets old. It never gets old. LA gets old real quick. I just, I love New York City so much. It's like in my soul.

I feel like it was like I was born to be there in some way. I tell Sheena when she was saying that she wanted to move there. I said, I believe that everybody at once in their life should live in New York City. There's just something about it. Not with a child. People do it. That ship sailed. Look at those Upper West Siders

with the strollers. Although I just had a very interesting West Village experience like two days ago. So I was doing Watch What Happens Live and a day before I'm sitting in one of my favorite places in the West Village. Right across the restaurant from me is Andy

and SJP. Wait, what? Like having dinner together. Now I'm doing Watch What Happens Live. Wait, what? Like having dinner together. Now I'm doing Watch What Happens Live. Wait, I think you posted it because I saw Sarah Jessica Parker on your Instagram. You're like such a New York moment or something. Was that that day? Ironically, a day later, I'm walking through Soho and I literally stumbled onto the Sex in the City set.

Oh my God. Which they shoot a lot on Spring. That is such a New York moment. Spring and Crosby. For those that want to know, they shoot a lot on spring that is such a new york moment spring and crosby for those that want to know they shoot a lot on spring and crosby so i literally just walked him and it was like that's miranda and that's like you know charlotte and it was like a whole thing yeah so we just sat there and by the way there was hundreds of people and i don't normally like get caught up in that but it was really surreal to watch like they were like fluffing

carrie's hair and like giving her couture dress a thing. Oh, that's so cool. That is amazing. A day before that, I was at this restaurant and Andy and SJP are like, and I'm like, well, I'm doing Watch What Happens. I have a date from now. Like literally in 48 hours, we're going to be sitting together on stage. Do I go say hello? Absolutely.

So I text MJ, who's usually my like go-to on this kind of shit. I was like, do I say hello of shit i was like do i say hello and she was like is he alone i said no he's with sjp she goes i'd still go up she said no leave it alone i told i totally pussied out why do you see nema this is the second time now i don't even remember what the first thing was so i'm not i can't call you out about it and i probably wouldn't anyways but there was something else that you asked mj's advice for that i completely disagreed it was about a girl. Yeah, well, let's just, so MJ said,

you should not go up there because SJP was there. They're BFFs. You don't want to fucking be that guy. Yeah, but it's not like Andy doesn't know you. Right, and if he was solo, I would have walked up and be like, oh my God, how are you? Did you tell him when you saw him

that you saw him at the restaurant and was he like, oh, you should have come and said hi to me? Absolutely not. Okay. No. Whatever. I have a similar SJP New York story. Let me tell you guys real quick.

Okay. So years ago when I lived there, I was in the Hamptons with Matthew Morrison, who was dating Chrishell. And we were at the, I guess, producer or someone of the Broadway show Hairspray because Matthew used to star in it. Oh, fun. So we were at their house. Yeah. So all of a sudden we're just hanging out.

There's a knock on the door. It's Sarah Jessica Parker and baby James. I don't know how old James is now. He's probably, what, 15, 16? I don't know. With the baby asking us if we could babysit. They live next door. What?

Yes. That's crazy. Yeah, no. Well, I totally chickened out and I, you know, it's one of those things. I don't know if MJ gave me bad advice,

but it was a very nice segue to what Sheena's talking about right now, which there was a girl that I was talking to in New York City and it was probably the only girl

in the last few years that I've been like a little sprung on. And by a little sprung, I mean like I was. Excuse me. I thought you were sprung on me. We had a moment. That made me blush right now i hear you're really good on dates too by the way i am

a great before you finish this story i said you were honestly probably the only guy up until brock that i went on like actual dates with right and had like the best time yeah well i so we're gonna sidebar this comic because i want to actually address this. We'll go back to that. Okay. On one of the dates that I took Sheena on, we went to know it was like maybe our first or second date to know with Malibu. That was our first date.

The waiter tried to fucking pull the robbery on me. He tried to like, the guy who literally served us food and was like conversational. He slid into my DMs, right? He slid into Sheena's DMs and tried to get at her within 24 hours of us being at the restaurant. It was a ballsy move. So if you are taking a girl you like and you're into her out, don't go to Nobu Malibu.

Because they will fucking try to pull the robbery. Was he cute? Honestly, I don't even recall. But I mean, I didn't respond I like screenshot it I remember I sent it to him and I was like look at this

it was a ballsy move were you jealous a little bit a little bit I was more like it's very emasculating like you know like you obviously

I'm on a date with this girl you know I'm on a date with this girl yeah I get I get we all can accept that she's hot but like

what the fuck are you doing like you know that's a super and he was like on the DMs I DM'd him and that's a super, and he was like, and the DMs were like, I DM'd him. And I was like, I was like,

yo dude, what are you doing? And he was like, oh, I didn't know you guys were on a date. My bad. And I was like, come on.

I can't believe you DM'd him. Oh yeah, of course. I forgot about that. And he was just like, my bad. He apologized. He was very apologetic about it.

Yeah. So anyways, MJ gives me bad advice. And then in New York city, I was talking to a girl that I was really, really into for a second. And there was a miscommunication. Yeah.

And I didn't respond for a while. And MJ was like, good. Don't respond. Don't respond. Leave it be. Yeah, okay. I'm caught up on this story. So I'm glad I know.

I think not responding made it harder for us to become friends. We are friends now, thankfully, which I really appreciate. But me having sort of not responded could have been interpreted as like I ghosted her. Yeah. And that was never the intention. It made it a lot harder to be friends. Like I said, we're friends now. Very thankful. She's in the Bravo world. I mean, very careful. Is that the goal, though, to then become friends with people? Or do you only want to become friends because you work together? I don't work with her at all. We just happen to be in the same. So let's say you weren't in the same world. Would you still try to become friends with someone after you hooked up with them? I'm

generally, I'm generally friends with every girl that I've ever like dated. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty much friends with all of my, I think it's great to be on good terms with everyone. I don't know how I feel about, like, let's say you get a serious girlfriend. Would it be okay for you to be in still contact with people that you've

hooked up with before as friends? She should be secure enough to be okay with it. In this particular, this was not a girl I dated. This was a girl I hung out with like once or twice.

This was not like a serious thing. So it was very easy to make the transition to being friends. There's no residual feelings on either side. Absolutely not. It was just one of those things where like when the ghosting perception happened, it made it harder to transition to being friends.

And MJ was like, yeah, absolutely. Like fucking leave her alone. Don't respond. And when I relayed this message, this conversation to Sheena like months later. I was like, it's so late now. And I still think you should say something. I had told Sheena, hey,

I actually really want to be friends with this girl. Like, I don't want us to go out like that. Like, her friendship actually means something to me.

Here's the dynamic. Here's what went down. And her first response was like, you didn't respond? Yeah. You haven't messaged her in like three months? And I was like,

no. She's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was like, seriously. And I was like, MJ said, and I was like,

oh my God. Well, what did you think you should do without any influence? You felt like you should say something, I think. Yeah. And I was like, seriously. And I was like, he's like, well, MJ said, and I was like, oh my God. Well, what did you think you should do without any influence? You felt like you should say something, I think. Yeah. And I ultimately did. And it smoothed everything out.

Yeah. Three months later. Yeah. Like I said, it made it a lot harder to become friends, but we're super cool now. And I'm very thankful for that. And we all move on.

How's Bravo con going to be? Everything will be smooth sailing. I think it'll be great. I mean, honestly, it's like, we don't even really intermingle that much with the other shows. Like there was the huge Watch What Happens Live episode where everyone was there. But like we're all so busy doing our own things. Unless you get put on a panel with someone, like you might not even see them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that'd be fun if we do a panel together. Oh, my God. Okay, BravoCon, I just had an idea. Put every single person who is on Bravo, like single, like not a panel together. Oh my God. Okay, BravoCon, I just had an idea. Put every single person who is on Bravo, like single, like not in a couple, and do a dating game. Like the celebrity dating game, but for Bravo Labs.

Yes. Oh my God, I want to host it. I'm a little miffed that I was not invited to. There needs to be Bravo single spinoff shows. Yes. Like a Temptation Island. Yeah, I wanted to be the Bravo Bachelorette and it never happened.

I think you were in on this idea too. We all thought of this at one point that this needs to be a show. There's enough of us. Like Love Island? Yeah.

Oh my God, you guys, I'm hooked. And then you can like throw in some people who were not, like what Winterhouse did. They took some new people, right? And they brought them in too.

Oh yeah. So it doesn't have to be. Winterhouse? Winterhouse? No. We haven't seen that. No. But I think they, because I saw some photos of some it was southern charm and summer house and then new people right oh yeah like i would love to see the network do that on a larger scale yeah where we're like on an island like send me to cabo and give me a lot

of rose yeah love island but for bravo yes and i'm oh I'm very happy. Can we get producer credits? Can I be the host? Yes. I want to be the host. If you said you should host that. Oh, that'd be so fun. It's funny because single Sheena would have like torn up that island. Right?

But now like mom Sheena's like, can I host? Yes. Fucking bring cookies and like orange slices for everyone. And give advice. People can come to her and sit down and ask for advice. Because I finally figured it out. I did. I give advice. People can come to her and sit down and ask for advice. I finally figured it out. I did. I told Brock, though, I was like, you know, you ruined my dreams of being the bachelorette.

And he's like, well, you ruined my dreams of being on The Bachelorette. And I was like, but you never wanted to be on it. No, he didn't. He just said that to say it. I have a segue on this, too. I just went out two nights ago on a date with a girl who lives in Northern California. We happen to both be in LA

at the same time. Comes down and we go out to catch and we go out to Tom Tom afterwards. Remember I text you. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. She's in the public eye. Blonde or brunette? Brunette. I'm going to actually pull up her photo. He's had some blondes, though.

No. He has a type, and it's this. It is. It's very true. Okay. And then I want to get into the difference of dating in New York and LA. Oh, yeah. Wow.

Okay. Right. She looks, there she looks very pageant-y. Yes. Stunningly beautiful. Yeah. Like, honestly, like, people kept coming up to her and being, you are so pretty. Like, that kind of thing. Wow. she looks there she looks very pageanty yes stunningly beautiful yeah like honestly like people kept coming up to her and like you are so pretty like that kind of thing wow um yeah no one

ever does that to me so you know but it was fine and it was like i'm sure you get that with your eyes often sometimes and the date's going really really well oh my god we made out at tom tom by the way like in the corner of tom tom and i was like i mean who hasn't made out at tom tom jamie's made out with a waitress at tom tom at tom tom in the bathroom i come on but but the thing is i think there's a decent chance that she might go on to the bachelor like oh and i was like it's over at that point if she goes like fuck it it's over like her father was gonna go through the roof she has all the tangibles for it. They're talking to her right now.

And I was like, the end. That's that. So we'll see. Wow. Yeah. The bachelor is like a game changer. Why would she want to go on it? Did she give you her reasons?

No, no. She just said it was being talked about. Because that's important if you're dating her, you know? They went on a date. Yeah. And the thing is, like, the minute you go on something like that to me dating is a completely different ball game people like that completely different ball game and i can appreciate that i'm not threatened by it i can appreciate it and it's like i want that's

amazing good for you how many dates do you go on on a weekly basis a lot like how many um you ever like double dip on a night no no i don book. Let's not say double dip. No, I never double booked. I've never double booked. Have you double dipped? I try very hard to be. I enjoy double booking because then I don't have to do hair and makeup for two different people. It's done already. I try very hard to be.

If I'm going to go on a date with a girl and she's going to give up her time, I know what that means. There's hair and makeup and girls go through all of that. I try very hard to give a very good dating experience. Like I want to like, I can vouch for that. I want to have, I like your time is five stars on Yelp. I want to like show you respect.

I want to go to a nice restaurant. Like to me, the dates, like I'm never going to be like, Hey, let's go meet for drinks at a random place. That's never going to be always doing dinner. Always.

You are always going to have the respect to like's go meet for drinks at a random place. That's never going to be our- You're always doing dinner. Always. You are always going to have the respect to like go grab like a nice meal. Our first date was at Nobu fucking Malibu. Okay, but you know, Jamie, I made him go to the Cheesecake Factory because he said he was above it. And he drew the line at Olive Garden. He wouldn't go to Olive Garden. I agree with that. I agree with that. We sat.

I was like, all right. I'm good at breadsticks, yeah. So I go on a lot of dates but i would never like double book a date but it's exhausting dating is exhausting it's so exhausting it really is i know it's also really expensive in new york well i was just going to say if you're going to dinner every night in new york city that's super expensive so a lot of dudes can't i mean new york is different we were just talking about this yeah i I feel like New York guys have a lot more money than L.A. L.A. dudes are so, I hate to say this, they're so broke.

They are. Most of them are so broke. They're starting actors or musicians or trying to do something. And it's hard to date in L.A. because of that. The dates are so shitty. They don't want to do anything. Look, Jamie and I were having a very in-depth conversation off camera or off off camera off pod on this which is dating in new york city is a totally different world than dating in los angeles on the whole la is a lot prettier as a demo yeah that's the first thing you will notice

but what i was telling jamie is if you are a single girl listening to this on everything i hold dear i'm telling you move to new york city because the guys are significantly better looking than the girls in new york city not to disparage the women of new york city but like the men are way more attractive they're all like clark kent's out there they're generally well educated successful generally have great jobs so if you are a single girl yeah and i've actually like You can't be really struggling in anything in New York. It's too expensive.

I've had friends come in from LA and I'm like, have you noticed that like the guys are way better looking? And then by day two of them being here, they're like, yeah, it's unbelievable. Like everyone is really good looking, successful,

generally a little more grounded because being in a successful career tends to ground you. So if you're a single girl and maybe you're not finding love in like LA or Chicago, go to New York city. I'm telling you. Yeah, no, the bar for me being in LA compared to what my dating life was in New York is so crazy. So the bar is now set super low for me. So I just, I just came off a four month relationship where he wanted to marry me yet. He did not take me on one actual date anything we did

I not only planned for but paid for okay so red flags I said from the beginning learn from my mistakes I recently had a date where I was in Hermosa Beach getting my hair done and he lives in the valley he drove to Hermosa Beach for LA that That's a lot in and itself. Yeah. He not only drove there to meet me just on a like a weeknight when he had work at 8 a.m. the next day, but he chose a restaurant. He made sure there were vegan options. He chose the bottle of wine to order and he paid for it and he drove home after. He wasn't expecting anything after. And that's usually just like that's quite impressive.

But that's mere minimum. How old was he? 27, way too young. Four years younger than my ex, by the way. I wasn't pulling stuff like that at 27. That's a mature guy. Weren't you married at 27? Let's not talk about that.

PTSD, yeah. What I'm saying, I can't believe I'm like impressed by that behavior when coming from New York, the people I used to date in New York, not that any of these things are important to me, but flown first class. They would choose like islands to take me to. They would like bring me back like Cartier watches and like the Louis Vuitton bags, all the best restaurants, all the best shows. Like that was my experience in New York. So it's just so crazy the differences but where my bar is set now is like the bare minimum is impressive in LA. Let's talk about the differences

with girls on different coasts because I've sort of talked about what I think about with the guys but with the girls it's really been even more wild because in LA in my experience people don't come for me this is my experience you gotta play the game girls in LA like the my experience, people don't come for me. This is my experience. You got to play the game. Girls in LA like the game. It's like, I like you, but I have to ignore you. Like it's just- Well, because they're insecure. Whatever it is.

They need that in LA. I'm not here to judge anyone. I just know that that's what my dating experience in LA was a lot of playing the game. Right. Which is exhausting. But you don't want those girls. You were like the chess master of the game, Sheena, please. And so then I wouldn't ignore. I would never ignore. You wouldn't ignore. But you well, you know what? She was really annoying. We were on dates. What? She would like go outena would talk to me about guys that she was talking to.

This is the game, right? I would then feel insecure. You're 100% on some real shit. Let's keep this super real. I would feel insecure as fuck because I was super into her. And then I'd be like, cool, I'm going to tell you about the last girl I was talking to. And then it became this dick measuring contest of who can outmaneuver who. My dick was bigger this

is la i don't know have you seen oh yeah he showed me photos okay i've had a whole powerpoint presentation i made sure she knew oh yeah she was not the only person he took this bitch to a fleetwood mac concert over me that was that was really fucked up yeah so she didn't even like the band okay that's not true she's blonde she like the band. Okay. That's not true. She's blonde. She loves the band. Interesting. No, you said that she like didn't know who they were. No, she didn't.

No, no, no. She didn't know where we're going on the way there. She does. She did like the band. Long story short. I don't know if I can have a tip. My point is that's the game, right? That was the game.

And what you just saw is what I associate Los Angeles with. New York City, the female dynamic in my experience, again, literal opposite. was the game and what you just saw is what i associate los angeles with new york city the female dynamic in my experience again literal opposite women are so to the point in new york city it's like hey i like you i mean i've had girls and this is not me trying to like flex literally even talk about sex in a transactional way like hey i hey, I'm into you. I want to make this happen. Don't waste my time. And it's just like, it's so jarring at first because when you come from LA

and you don't associate dating like that and girls are just like, yep, this is how it is. I let a head of girl be like, I have no interest in being your friend. If we're not going to like be something, I'm not interested in being your friend. It's either this or nothing. So if you are a guy and you are tired of the games, similarly, if you're a girl who can't

find love in LA, go to New York. If you're a guy who wants just very transactional, direct dating experiences, New York is also for you. Or if you're a female listening to this, I think there's a middle ground because I think there's something to be said. There's something to be said. What did you call it though? Maybe. There's something to be said from a little mystery. You know, not games and not so direct,

but a little mystery is a good thing. Yeah. If you want to know how these guys are trying to, you know, become exclusive after two dates in LA, that's the way to do it ladies. Is that like, it's funny because I would never think that being exclusive after two dates would even be within the realm of possibility.

She has guys who literally after the first date are like, I want to be exclusive. I'm like, what is this platinum vagina of yours? It's funny. I would almost not take someone seriously if they were to bring up that to me. Sheena was saying, this is a red flag. I'm like, no, this is what happens every time I date someone. No, my vagina is just platinum. I'm not, no, this is what happens every time I date someone. She's like, no, my vagina is just platinum. I'm not sleeping with all of these guys, first of all. No, it's that energy.

You just like put it out. Is there a litmus test for you guys? We're going to ask Sheena to go back into her single days. Okay. So we're going to go. Okay. Not before Brock. BB.

All right here. Okay. So I have a theory and I've told this to women and they get very triggered by this. And I say that I think a woman will know within 10 seconds of meeting you. 100%. If she will sleep with you or not. Yes. And a lot of my female friends are like, no.

They think that comes off like disrespectful. They're like, no, I could get to know him. He can grow on me. I'm like, yeah. In rare circumstances, this can happen. Correct. I could get to know him. He can grow on me. I'm like, yeah, in rare circumstances, this can happen. But on the whole, when you single Sheena, so when you meet someone within like 10 seconds, a minute max, you pick up a vibe. Yes.

But even if you know that you want to, you maybe don't always do it. Of course. Of course. I'm not saying that you're just going to jump on anyone you want. But I'm saying like, you'll know in a minute. And here's, let's do the flip side of that. Yeah. If in a minute you see a

guy and you're like i'm never gonna have sex with you then why would you even go out with him well correct me but let's say you're in the same friend group let's say you're interacting with him on the same friend group okay but you see a guy and you're like i would just i don't feel it right that will never change it's very rare that someone can overcome that psychologically i agree true or false yeah i think that's true. Right? Yeah. Because there's so much to be said for that chemistry

that you can't really define, but you know it right away because it's something you feel in the presence of that person. You can be texting them. You could have met online, made up a date to meet, and you can be like,

this person's so funny, so charismatic through texting or on the phone and then you meet in person and all of a sudden you feel absolutely no chemistry and you're like nope i don't like this person yeah so yeah it's that instant i think i agree it's that instant spark or when you well you're single when you were single were you guys apt to respond to dm slides i dm slid on you uh you did straight up and here's the thing it's so funny because i say like i'm a person who never checks her dms but like i wouldn't be with brock had i not checked my dms but it just shout out to brock very rare times yeah that i've checked my dms that

i have like pursued something with someone like you were one brock was one and then there was this one oh my god I found out after though that he was fucking 21 years old but he slid in the dms he was a verified account it was a day I don't know why I was just checking them this was a couple summers ago and I looked at his account and I was like damn this guy's high he looked about like 27 ish and so I responded we ended up going out and then he was telling me how he had class the next day, and I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. I was like, class?

Like, what? Please don't be in high school. No. Thankfully, it was college, but it was like he wanted to stay over at my house because he went to Loyola Marymount, and it was close to my apartment in Marina Del Rey, and I was like, you're like a senior, though, right?

Are you like a red shirt senior? I have my freshman admission day tomorrow. Admit day is tomorrow. Yeah. But then I ended up going out with him a couple more times because there was a Bryce Vine concert and, uh, you know, just what a normal girl wants to do is make their ex jealous. And I assumed my ex would be at this show. So I was like, sure, come with me. So he comes with me to the show. And I was also there with my little sister. And I was just like, not feeling it whatsoever. I was just like, this is just like awkward. Like, I just like, wasn't feeling it. One of my ex's friends comes up to me. And he was like, wait, he's like,

what happened with your sister injustice? Did they break up? And I was like, no, they're good. Why do you need to go that new guy she's here with? And I was like, Oh my god like wait he's like what happened with your sister injustice did they break up and i was like no they're good why do you need to go that new guy she's here with and i was like oh my god because he's her age right that's fun and i was like oh no he's just a friend uh i was like i didn't even say he was there with me because i felt so awkward but you guys would be apt to respond to the dm well that's how i that's how i met my last boyfriend he slid into my dm i mean what's the difference with a DM or a dating app? Isn't it essentially like the same thing? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but with the dating app, you matched on each other.

You've matched and you're both there for the same. I never did the dating app, so. Are you asking because do you slide into people's DMs? Sometimes I will. And it's always like you always feel, at least for me, I always feel a little like pervy doing that. What do you say? Yeah.

I have a move. What did you say to me? Now I want to like scroll back to our first meeting. I need to know it. I met Sheena like the weekend before. We met in person. At American Junkie. My buddy owns American Junkie.

I was there. I would just go to support him. And it's like a Chargers bar. Oh, by the way, I got two extra Chargers season tickets. Did you? Yeah. So you'll have to come to the game with us. Yeah, for sure.

Anyways. And I met Sheena. I saw Sheena sitting there. And I obviously knew who she was from the network. Again, text MJ. And I was like, do I say hello? I've never met this girl. Do I say hello?

And she's like, absolutely. She came through. The time MJ gave good advice. She was like, absolutely. You guys are bravo, fam. I was like, I don't want to think I'm trying to get at her. Like, I was with my ex at the time. Not with her, but, like, she was there with me physically.

Okay. And so I was just like, I don't want it to be weird. She was like, no, just go say hi. So I literally just, like, walked up to, like, Sheena and her mom, like, sitting there. And I was like, hey, nice to meet you. And it and it was like a very pleasant five minute exchange and then i was like damn she's hot so then i i was like do i dm side but i always feel a little pervy doing that because it's like what do you see you know it's what did you write i don't remember i gotta scroll back and find it i don't find it while you're i don't know if we dm so much we dm a lot do we dm

a lot or we we text a lot or we text a lot? I'm saying we DM a lot. So it's going to be not a scroll find in this next like 20 minutes. But have you perfected it? You have a move now? What do you say? But let me just say that when I met him also, I know we've talked about this on the podcast before,

but I don't know if you know, so I'll give the short version. I thought he had a crush on me because when Shervin did my podcast, he told me that Nima had a crush on me. And I was like, oh, really? I was like, okay, because I thought like Shervin and I were going to go on a date, but then he's like telling me

that his friend has a crush on me. But no, Shervin got my name and Stassi's name mixed up. And Nima had a crush on Stassi. But I didn't know that. So when he slid in the DMs, I was like, oh, this guy likes me. So I was like, okay, I'll respond.

Hold on. But when you went up to her, you thought she was cute. I knew Sheena from the show. I mean, it was Bravo fam. I knew who she was. Of course I thought she was cute. And your intentions on DMing her was because you thought she was attractive. 100%.

So you did have a crush. Of course. I think what Shervin did wrong was Shervin was trying to like put in like a word. Yeah. Because he thought, if I'm wearing the Farsi to English translation, Stassi and Sheena, when you translate it like it. And so, yeah, he literally called me and was like, oh, I fucking hooked you up, bro. Like put in a word for Sheena.

I was like, Sheena? He's like, yeah. Like, Sheena, you have a crush on her. I'm like, Stassi. He's like, oh, fuck. And I was like, it her. I'm like, Stassi. He's like, oh, fuck. It's fine. I mean, it worked out. Either or, really. I do have an incredible DM slide that I really am not

going to share because it's so good. I want to protect it because it works every time. Can you tell me off this then? Because I'm just really curious and it's not like you're going to use it on me. You can tell me. I'll tell you guys because I actually talked about my podcast. That's fine. We got it out. I'm in 2020. We do DM a lot what i would love to what i'd love to know is if you guys think this is trash like please if you let us know we can we can fix it if it

needs to be fixed i'm not gonna abandon it i just want to review huh yeah what is it okay so if i have met you or if i've not met you i I usually won't DM a girl I don't really fully know. But like if I've met you or even just like tangentially or whatever, you can respond to a story, a girl's story. Every girl will go out there at yoga. They're feeling themselves. Whatever. Right. You said great meeting you.

Holy shit. You literally fucking went there. I'm going to pop this up. How poetic, Nima. And I said, hey, you too, finally. And he said, seriously, plus you're a Chargers fan. Can we not read this? Clearly legit.

And I said, always have been. And then he asked if I was an SD girl. And then we got into it. That's funny. Great meeting you. Oh, my God. I cannot believe you fucking just did that. I mean, it's not embarrassing.

Great meeting you is clearly not a smooth DM slide, right? It worked. It worked. But then with the chargers. What's the move? What's the move now? Right. But this is also not a normal DM slide because we're on the same network.

There's family. Got it. Bravo fan thing going on here. Great meeting you. So, yeah. Great meeting you is like the fucking most non-gay i was embarrassed that i said that i think i'm gonna make you in t-shirts oh my god that's gonna be the shenanigans merch it's just gonna say great meeting you

it just that feels like one of those like self-help books that like i wrote like great meeting you how to win in business by ne. You know, like how to close the sale. Great meeting you. I'm so glad I found that. You can screenshot that and burn it. Okay. So my amazing DM slide. People feel ready to take this.

It works every single time. People don't come for me. This works for me. It's my truth. Don't violate it. Here we go. Girls are out. They're doing their thing. Posting a cute little selfie whatever having time or whatever you want to compliment the girl

but you don't want to be creepy pervy and you also don't want to be too complimentary because then you're every other guy so you're never gonna be oh you're so beautiful like guys if you do that stop immediately no just say great meeting you yeah great meeting you um so i will respond and this is gonna sound douchey but it works every time i'll wait for a story that's like them have like turning up like at a bar friends whatever and i'll say just thriving that's it and they and the women respond every time and they go like as i should or always or whatever and if they don't respond obviously but like i'm telling you it is a 99 elicits a response wow okay and the response i get over and over and over again like to the point that i'm saying this is always what if they just

double tap and put a heart then do you continue a conversation double tap my shit we are never talking again like i have to say the more important aspect of this whole thing is your follow-up after always of course so what comes then of course good point because i do not ever want to be aggressive or awkward ever you know except for with this dm machina which is both aggressive and awkward so more awkward but yeah yeah i so when if they were sent always or whatever then i will try to loop the conversation into something about me and her some sort of commonality good like the chargers yeah like because if i don't have anything common with you i probably am not gonna like want to suffer through i mean that's how brock slid in that was like you know find the common interest. Something to talk about.

Yes. Commonality. Yes. One, two. And it shows you're paying attention and you're, you're personalizing it. It's not something that you're writing to every single person.

Right. That's it. Although the, your first thing is, but the followup, maybe not, maybe more personal. Yeah,

of course. And if, and you'll know almost immediately if there's a vibe or if there's not and that works both ways like i've gone on dates with girls who were beautiful that were interested in me that i just didn't feel vibe with and you cannot force that i guess as a guy i just won't be like i'm gonna just sleep with anything like i have to feel it and there's i'm sure been a million girls who have gone on dates with me and like didn't feel it like my sense of self-worth is never affected by that ever, ever, ever, ever. It's not you. It's just, you're not going to vibe with every single person. And ideally there should really only be one, you know? So it's

like, it shouldn't be a personal attack if you meet someone and they're not interested. It's like, okay, cool. Now I can go off and find someone else who is. It's like, don't waste my time. Ashana 1981 wants to know if you want to have kids and settle down. Not anytime soon. But have you changed your mind about kids? No, but slightly. Ooh, we've gotten to slightly. I love that.

For those that don't know, I'm in New York. I'm directing full-time now. And that, I think, is going to lead to what i'm hoping god willing will be a very prosperous career in life yeah i don't ever want my kids to struggle so if i'm at a point and i know i know everyone's gonna think it's not about that i get it that's how i look at it if i'm at a point where like let's say i'm getting to a place where i can direct movies in la then sure of course i'll have kids i'm very old school in that respect i just i i want to be able to provide entirely for my family,

but also like hype the shit up out of my wife who I'm like, I want you to take over the world. Like do whatever you want to do. I just, I have to be able to like cover everything as a base layer. Yeah. Does this same mentality go towards marriage as well? Do you not want to get married until you, your career is where you want it to be?

Cause that's a common thing with men. I, it was such an ordeal to get to new york city it was many conversations it was earning the trust of a major ad agency out there that gave me a shot which by the way congratulations vayner media i'm such a fangirl of gary v and such a nerd on everything that he does yeah and a Jersey girl love he's a Jersey boy. And like he he's strong with his roots. He's the best. You know, I don't interact with Gary too, too much. But, you know, I'm directing for a vertical inside of the Vayner world. But it wasn't easy. It wasn't like, oh, cool, come on down and let's just let me direct. It was like a year and a half of conversations. Getting to that point,

I am very intense and nothing is going to derail me from that. Meaning if I have to go shoot something for like Vayner one day, but I also need to like go to your best friend's birthday, no, I'm not going to the best friend's birthday. And that might not be something that you would want. And I could totally respect that.

I'm just not there yet. I think you have to have those selfish years to be able to then be a little selfless. Makes sense. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 38 years old. Okay. I'm old.

You're not old. I mean, I feel old too. But a lot of people are asking about Garcelle. And the only Garcelle I know of is Beverly Hills Housewives Garcelle. Is it that Garcelle? Yeah. Wait, what? What is that?

What do we not know? I've got, are you sliding into Garcelle's DMs? Have you gone on a date with Garcelle? Yeah. Wait, what? What do we not know? Are you sliding into Garcelle's DMs? Have you gone on a date with Garcelle? When is your first date? What is up with this? Okay, so let's just establish that Garcelle is super beautiful. Yes. Gorgeous.

And I remember watching Garcelle in like music videos, on the TV box show. Icon, yes. Incredibly talented, incredibly beautiful, like checks every box. So I've had a couple of the housewives franchise people follow me in the past vicky gummelson followed me and unfollowed me after six months and i was like i guess i guess i didn't do it for you but um so garcelle and i followed each other and it was it was just always like like each other's photos whatever and then she went on watch what happens live apparently i haven't seen the clip. And I guess Andy did like a swipe left, swipe right game.

She swiped right. I wasn't a choice. I guess she did. I guess. From what I've heard, I could be wrong. But what was told to me was that in her saying that she didn't, like, she wasn't feeling a lot of the dudes and the options. She was like, I think Nima from Shaw's is really, really cute. Whoa.

And so. T. Then all of a sudden, every Bravo blog on the planet was just like, Garcelle, things are cute. Oh, my God. Where have we been? I have no idea. And so the guy that she was, Amrit from Family Karma.

Okay. Who has this like incredible story this season where he like comes out to his grandmother. It's the sweetest thing in the world. So he had DM me and was like, yo, she thinks you're really cute. And I was like, thanks, buddy. Like, you know, it was fine. So then I do watch What Happens Live like two nights ago. And Andy, because you know how Andy is really good at this.

You know, he actually did this with Sheena last year on Watch What Happens Live. He was like, so are there any like Bravo girls? You know, I was like, well, I hung out with Sheena and his eyes just like light up. You know, so yeah. So he again was like, is there anyone that you and the Bravoverse verse are into and it was kind of the same question as the shit but then he caught himself because andy's a fucking pro yeah and he was like in the housewives franchise you know and i was like well i think and this is you know i'm not gonna like lie i was like well i think garcelle is really really cute and then it just has gone wild and so andy's like well it's funny that you say that because

she thought you were he was like have you dm'd her i said no i haven't i guess are you going to i guess this is like a metaphoric dm slide us talking about this today yeah and he's like what are you waiting for do it and then of course candace from potomac was like you need to do that shit right now and so i am not going to like violate any confidence shot between me and Garcelle. There's been a hello. There's been a thriving. No, no.

How about a great meeting? Oh, shit. There has been a very subtle high. I love this. Stay tuned. I love tea. Oh my god. I love this. Yeah, I was like my god i love this yeah i was like i have watched it happens i've recorded but i haven't watched it yet i mean i should be so she's beautiful and talented and absolutely i think she's a great addition to the show would you

actually date someone who lived in la though with you being in new york most of the time i don't know take garcelle out of it and have that be anybody right right i don't know i would be excited to like meet her and say hi and see what happens. You know what I mean? So, yeah. Stay tuned. There's something fun about just getting to meet people and seeing if you vibe or not.

Yeah, for sure. Have you hooked up in any crazy places in New York City? No, because a lot of the places that I go to are owned by friends in the Vayner world. And I don't think I can do that. However, I did go on a date with a waitress at one of the restaurants

owned by someone in the Vayner world. I did ask his permission. I said, hey, are you cool with this? And he said, of course. I love that you asked me, but I'm super good with it. We did not vibe on the date at all. It just didn't vibe.

We had a lovely date. Nice dinner. Lola Taverna in soho if you're from new york city i know you fuck with lola and we just like went our separate ways and it was awkward for like a month at that restaurant oh no and it's like the bar we go to every single weekend yeah she didn't make it terrible but it was awkward enough to where i was like i'm never gonna go on a date with anyone that i either work with or I see socially at all. Because I can't handle those situations.

Gotcha. That wasn't exactly my question. I'm going to rephrase it. And this goes to both of you. Okay. What is the craziest place anywhere that either of you have either had sex or if you don't want to admit to that,

just, you know, made out with or did things with in public? Pirates of the Caribbean. Amazing. And in line for Star Wars. What part of Pirates of the Caribbean? Back row on the boat? No, like what part of the ride? When it's the darkest.

And then we just had that row to ourselves and just kind of kept going through the rest of the ride. I had a haunted mansion ordeal as well. You know, I made out on Space Mountain. That's a hard one. That's probably the hardest one. Yeah, logistically it was very difficult, and it happened.

And I just know that we've all made out at the happiest place on Earth. Yeah. And we were telling Brett about both of our situations, and he's like, I thought you'd get kicked out if you did that. They have hidden cameras and all of this. He's like, I can't believe neither one of you got kicked out of Disneyland for this. Well, I mean, you of this. He's like, I can't believe neither one of you got kicked out of Disneyland.

I mean, you couldn't see where his hand was. Yeah. If there was a camera. Yeah. I went down on someone in Haunted Mansion. Yeah. That's a little more obvious.

Okay. We're talking, I've got like a hoodie on and his hand was under the hoodie. Okay. I can't, I can't do any of these things. I don't have the stones. You can't do anything outside?

I'm like, when it comes to the bedroom, like you can, we can handle it. I can't be doing shit like that in't do anything outside? I'm like, when it comes to the bedroom, like we can handle it. I can't be doing shit like that in public. Like it like freaks me out too much. Back row of the ride.

Yeah. Yeah. I can't do it. Like I'm too, I'm too like aware of what's around me. That's hilarious. Divine.modern underscore

Kalika wants to know what is one of your favorite memories with me? I have a lot of really favorite memories with Shia. Give me one. You know, I know this is one of your favorite memories with me? I have a lot of really favorite memories with Sheena. You know, I know this is one of my favorite ones, but it's one that always sticks out to me was my best friend, who's now my podcast co-host, is a little Bravo obsessed. Yeah. And when TomTom opened, Sheena had invited me to the opening of it.

I was just like, come down. And Annette wanted to come. And I remember being like, I don't know if that's like a tall ask or not. to come and i remember being like i don't know if that's like a tall ask or not like i don't she didn't know annette and in la again everyone's a little just like i don't know you why would i help you out new york is the opposite of that you were so wonderful about it i was like hey is it cool because the tomtom opening was like miley cyrus it was like it was impossible to get into it was like it was the thing everyone in la wanted to be at that night you like went out of your way

you talked to some and then they got there and security like it was so chaotic security didn't like know that who they were sheen actually walked through the bar to like walk them into the bar and it always really stuck out with me because I thought it was such a like profoundly kind thing that you didn't have to do. Like you just did it because you wanted to be nice to me. And it's always been at the core of like what I think about when I think about you. Yeah. It's like you've always just been such a good, sweet friend to me that I just I adore you.

Thanks. Aw, I love it. Are we having a summer moment right now? Mom's coming in. Would you ever taste Sheena's breast milk? I would. Do you want it cold or warm? Do you want some in your coffee?

If you're serious, Nima, I do have a shot of my milk right here. Which repulses Jamie, by the way. It does. I'm actually, as I'm watching this, and I think you're beautiful, but as I watch this, I'm going, wow, this is like a moment. I'm having a real moment here. I have a couple questions about what I've never tasted breast milk. Can we do a sip versus a shot?

Like, I don't want to down this whole thing. Sure. Yeah. And two, is this a podcast rite of passage? Have other people done this? Only my gay best friend, Brett. And Brock. Well, yeah, Brock, of course.

And as an ancillary third question, is Brock going to be a little put off that I'm tasting your breast milk? No. We're sure about this. Well, you're not like getting it from the source. I understand. I get that. So I'm saying like Brock is my homie. I want to make sure that this doesn't affect our bromance,

which is budding and I'm very proud of. That's really sweet of you to be concerned about that, though. Here we go. I'm having a real, like... Down the hatch. It tastes just like almond milk. Don't tell him. Didn't Joey from Friends do this?

Maybe. Well, someone on Friends drank breast milk. I don't know. I don't watch that show. Okay, here we go. Bottoms up. It tastes just like almond milk. Thank you.

Yeah. You can finish it. I don't want to finish it. So, you're going to waste Summer's food? You can just put it in this coffee. I was going to wonder. You drank finish it. I don't want to finish it. So you're going to waste summer's food? Put it in this coffee. I was going to wonder. You drank your own. Good?

Yeah. It's not bad. I know. It's actually not that bad. I thought it was going to be really bad. Actually, it was not that bad. It literally tastes like almond milk. Great.

Think about it. Here's how I made this logically okay in my brain. Explain, yes. If you have sex with someone, there's probably other fluid exchanges that occur that are way more intense than this. That's what I said.

Jamie has swallowed way worse than my breast milk. There's probably things that your mouth goes on that you taste. But there's no payoff to this. There's no gratification. Just go to everybody. If we're talking about just from purely a place of like queasiness, like when you hook up with a girl or a guy, it's way more intense than sipping someone's breast milk.

That was my logic of why I did it and it wasn't bad. From the mind of Nima. We have some questions for you. We have some questions. So we kind of touched on this, but Robin underscore Damon underscore Dabic wants to know what is your type? We've established brunettes, but I also know that you date a lot of blondes.

So like, do you have a type? I think all women are beautiful. Yeah. Let's be really clear about that. I think all women are beautiful in their own ways. I have always dated short, petite brun brunettes yeah like the host of this show is sort of is sort of the demo of what i've gone for are there personality traits that that you would say is your type or are we only talking about physical no totally um kindness if you are

not a kind person like the amount that i will not fuck with you and that's been so reinforced by the people that i'm around in New York city. I am around people who are like kind and sweet and giving. And like, if you are passive aggressive, angry, reactive, not just to me,

I'm talking about like, we're on a date and like you talk about someone in a reactive, angry way. It is not lost on me that it's only a matter of time before that turns on me. So kindness is like the number one thing. is a flex like 2021 kindness i'm telling you totally what are some turnoffs besides what i just said aggression um i am not a very religious guy so i think if somebody were to be super religious i don't think we would vibe well politically i'm pretty moderate some of my best

friends are crazy liberal crazy republican but if you're like preachy it's not gonna work on either end on either end yeah and then the thing i don't do the i do the worst with is people who are like suffocate me like if i'm on a date and like you have to know how to like give people space and work within their boundaries so like you. You were very good at that. But there are some girls who are like, I miss you right away. And it's like that for some reason triggers a suffocation in me that I'm like, I can't handle it.

You have to know when to interject that. What, do you do that? I don't do that, but I have it done to me. No, you just have to know there's an appropriate time. The relationship has to get to that point. Don't do it early. I don't want to tell you not to be you but if that's who you are then find somebody who equally fucks with that and then you guys just miss each other all day long yeah like i don't mind that yeah in fact i kind of like it there you go what is your love language uh affection

and um that's not that's not one you mean physical touch oh words of affirmation words of affirmation that's mine too for sure yeah it's lilio and me but i also think that like part of loving someone is to like want what's best for them and then to vocalize that yeah there needs to be a constant support system in the relationship okay yeah Physical touch. Physical touch, but also acts of service. I love effort. Like I love seeing somebody put in effort. I don't need to be told affirmations constantly. It's nice. I wouldn't tell somebody not to do it, but I prefer to see acts of service. Got it. I tend to confuse that with gift giving because it's like isn't gift giving also an act of service however I don't need gifts

so I always sometimes confuse the two but you got a lot of gifts from the guys in New York who you dated and I didn't care about any of it so yeah it's not to be confused with like somebody constantly getting me things but more like an effort being put in like this particular guy who I don't think I have any feelings for I hope he's not listening

he might be actually there's probably a decent chance he is listening being put in. Like this particular guy who I don't think I have any feelings for. I hope he's not listening. He might be. There's probably a decent chance he is listening. You know what? I actually questioned that because, and I'll give you a little story. So on previous podcasts but it was on a Patreon, I had mentioned that I sometimes enjoy a light strangle.

But only during the act. Not just out of nowhere. I don't want someone strangling me. You like to be choked. Lightly. A light strangle. Not super aggressively. But choking is hot.

I know. Here's the thing. We were only kissing and he did it. And I'm like, did he sign up for the Patreon and listen to this and thinks this is what I like? Some guys are into it. I'll tell you. He just did it in an inappropriate one of the hottest makeouts i ever had and i knew we had we had previously

talked about choking like her and i had talked about how we were both into that we were at an event she sat on my lap and it was actually our first time we made out and in the moment my hand just went up but again it's like i'm gonna literally squeeze sheena's wrist with the strength it was just like that right it was just enough to be like you know what's coming down the road exactly and that's why later i asked her i said yo was that like we when i did that did you notice that and she was like oh i thought about that every day like it was she was very into that yes i think choking should just be normalized let's normalize it i'm i love it however i feel like it has to be in the right moment and the kiss that we the type

of kiss that we had it was like our first kiss it wasn't the right and he went in and he went in in an aggressive way in public where what you just described is fine it's like insinuating that's what's coming yeah what he did was not in the middle of like some heated moment where it was like appropriate. So anyway, it just made me think maybe he does listen. So anyway, what I was saying before that story. You don't really choke like a Whole Foods. Exactly. Shopping for like produce.

You can't choke in like the lemon aisle. Got it. And I actually forget what I was saying before that so we could just move on. Something about dating. Yeah, we can move on. Did we get any other questions

for him? Yeah, well there were so many but I mean we can go on forever. No, I screenshot the good ones. Yeah, so the next one that came in that we screenshot was from Devin underscore

Granik 17 and wants to know we're going to ex-nay Garcelle from this because we've already asked that. If you had to date or marry a real housewife

who's married or not, I think I know the answer to this. Who would it be? I want you to give the answer because I think she might know. God, who is it?

Dorit. Yes. Yep. Would you have babies with her out of anybody or would there be someone else you would have babies

with instead? Would I have my pure financials here? Well, because do you want her talking to your future kids like, Chagaloo. Dorit can do that. I'm totally fine with that.

Dorit would probably be, that would not change my answer. Okay. Got it. I had a little mini crush on Dorit randomly. It was very Stassi-esque. It was like a random fleeting. Yeah, he has these blonde crushes. I have a crush on Dorit.

I think she's, I think she had the biggest glow up ever. I don't know what she's done. But aside from how gorgeous she looks, I think her glam has been amazing recently. And I actually found her makeup artist, reached out to him and asked like if he was taking on new clients.

And he is. However, he's super, well, I wouldn't say he's super expensive, but just guess what the rate is. Can we say that? No, why not? Who cares? 600.

Yeah. Yeah. It was in that ballpark. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I mean, that whole cast is like, you know, Dorit, Garcelle, Kyle. They're all tons of very beautiful women on that cast.

Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. So you're in New York. You're directing right now. Can you talk about any projects that you're working on absolutely so we have an entire we're constantly ideating and shooting inside of Vayner our job is to like help build 137 which doesn't need any of our help but 137pm.com is like going

to become the next complex our job is to like ideate shoot create i just shot a thing with hannah burner in new york city oh fun this week actually where can people find this it'll all be on 1 37 p.m social i'll be sharing on mine as well okay but what is is that like an instagram account or they have a website they'll have a youtube channel they'll have their own they're a publishing platform so the complex has like an instagram they have a website they have a youtube channel same thing for one okay and this is under the VaynerMedia umbrella? 1.30 FM is owned by a company called Gallery Media Group. Gallery Media Group is owned by VaynerX.

Got it. Yeah. It's all part of the same family. Okay. The project that I'm most excited about, which will be coming out in probably the next two to three months, we hope, is a short documentary that I directed on the artist Beeple. If you don't know who he is, he just did the- Oh, I remember seeing that. You sent me stuff or I saw it on your story. Mike Winkleman, he did the NFT sale at Christie's for $70 million. We were in the room with him when it closed.

I'm literally behind camera, me and D-Rock on him, his parents, his wife. We told a 20-minute story about his... It was surreal because Christie's told him that on the doc that he is now the most important living artist in the world. He's also of all living artists, he is the third most valuable from his art. It's Hockney,

Koontz, and Beeple. So the fact that my first real mini documentary is with someone on Mike's level. Like I had him sign a call sheet and I had some of the Vayner execs sign the call sheet. Yeah. Like my first ever like Nima Van. You basically have like a Picasso signature now.

It's framed in my place. That's so dope. In the kitchen. That's so crazy. When it comes out, I'll be a big push for it. And there might be some like even bigger release things happening with it. So I, which I cannot talk about, but it might be exciting. So real, can you in a, maybe one or two minute explanation,

I'll give you a 30 second, 30 seconds, 30 seconds. If you know, if you've heard NFTs are basically all it is, it's like, no, all it is. It's fascinating. All it is, is you can own the rights to the art. Think about your, you have a song. When you have a song as an artist, you want to get signed by an artist. You have to go to a record label, hope that they'll fuck with you. And if they fuck with you, they own the master.

So like you have artists like TLC who sold 10 million albums who are fucking broke. What happens with NFTs is you now own the rights to that. So the guy, the reason Beeple had 70 million was because the person who bought that can license that footage however they want. They can put on t-shirts, put it into movies, sell it to Universal Studios. We knew it was going to go with the stratosphere because Beeple gave all licensing rights away. So what it's done is it's given the power back to the artist. If you're a creator, you make music, you make art, you make a movie, you can sell the rights to it directly to people. And if you're a consumer, instead of buying like a sports card, that's just a tangible piece of paper. You could buy like a piece of footage from a game and like you own that.

Okay. All right, moving on. Are you still doing your podcast? Yes. Still do the podcast. The podcast has changed for those. I was, it was an interview based show. I did not enjoy that at all. I just wanted me and my best friend to go on there and talk a lot of shit.

And that's what we've been doing lately too. But we're like, you know, we felt like it was about time that we had a guest on again. I was like, Oh my God, Nima's in town right now. This would be so perfect.

But I've had so much fun just doing the show with just Jamie and just Brock brock and like i really enjoy that more than like the hardcore interviews i was doing but i do love that we have a podcast which gives us a platform to interview people like we are a fan of like i was just for example on welcome to the oc bitches and summer is literally named after rachel belson's character on the oc so when heard that, they asked me to be a guest on their show. And I'm like, oh, my God, would you come on my show? Like, that's why I love having this platform is when I get to do fun interviews like that. So stay tuned because they did agree to come on. So we got to figure out how to do the Zoom podcast the right way.

I will not have them on until that audio is going to be perfect. Yes. Well, Nima does his podcast now your co-host is on a different coast than you and you guys have me are you making it work okay we'll talk about that yep so you're the topics have changed the format has changed i'm not trying to be cnn like i'm not trying to fucking interview people and like have like in-depth conversations there are people who love to do that i love the howard stern model which is kind of what you're saying he can have

like fun bitey conversations with robin and then he can also like have people like if she didn't want to come on my show it would be equal parts interview which you should come on by the way yeah it would also be like equal parts just like us shooting the shit and like hanging out and like that's what i want i think the goal is to find the middle ground right those two things i agree you know i don't want to be fucking PBS. We've gotten a lot of reviews and DMs of people saying they prefer

us just talking. They feel like they're listening in on a friend's conversation or they feel like they're out to lunch with their girlfriends and keeps them company and they're really loving that over the interviews. Got you. Last thing I wanted to ask you about is how do you, because I see some things that you post,

I think her name is Gail, but is she a fan or is she a troll? Gail started out as a troll. Okay, that's what I thought. Yes. So how do you deal with internet trolls and negativity, especially since you know your new teeth? I am going to give a major shout out a major shout

out to gary v on this he has an entire clip about this okay where he says if you come on my page and you leave some like dog shit on my page he's like i fucking love you because you are i know and i know so well that you are in such a bad place. Like happy people do not go out of their way to shit on other people. 100%. So if you come to channel Gary, if you come to my page with my white teeth and whatever else you want to make fun of

and you shit on my page, I know wholeheartedly that you are not in a good place in your life. And so the last thing I'm going to do is like feel bad about that. Like I just genuinely feel so sorry for you. And I'm like, the same thing yeah so it's just it's if you just look at that with a little bit of empathy it completely removes your ability to like take the bait or feel offended yeah shout out to gail by the way because she has done a fucking 180 with me and now we're like best

friends so how do you feel about summer moon having more followers than you do on instagram this is where I'm very triggered and actually all my pettiness is gonna come to the surface because when I noticed that your baby was verified

I was like fuck took me like three years to get verified like bugging bravo and like summer's verified like she's been

three months alive and so she was verified before she came out yeah oh my god yeah and she also pulled an already diva move because she was verified before she came out yeah that oh my god yeah and she also pulled an already diva move because she was first mini sheena yeah and then summer like the instagram

name change yeah can fuck your brand out sometimes and she did it she crushed it so because i love her already i'll accept it however if brock surpasses me which I know will happen soon, I'm unfollowing both of you. Well, thank you so much for taking time on your short L.A. trip to stop by and get into some shenanigans with us. I adore you guys. Anytime. It's been so fun. Guys, all I'm going to say is on number five interview, there better be a T-shirt for me. Oh, yeah.

It's going to say great meeting you thanks for listening guys bye sheena shea shea fk thanks for listening to shenanigans with sheena shea download new episodes every week on apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts Bye.