Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Till The Dirt with Tommy and MJ

Episode Date: April 8, 2022

In this episode, Scheana and co-host Brock Davies are joined by Tommy and MJ from Bravo’s Shahs of Sunset. Tommy and MJ talk about who they are closest with from their fellow cast mates as ...well as give some insight on drama from last season. They also talk about the struggles of working from home while balancing your relationship with your partner and kids. A lot changes in relationships after having a baby – they discuss sex, intimacy and the importance of date nights. Also, has Reza met baby Shams yet? Tune in to find how. Be sure to check out Tommy and MJ’s podcast, Till The Dirt where they talk about their relationship from meeting on Tinder, to being married with a baby and everything in between.   Follow us: @scheananigans @scheana   It’s all happening for Scheana Shay. Get insight into what it’s like behind the scenes of a reality show, hear some hilarious stories, and be part of a live Q&A where nothing is off the table. Special appearances from other Bravolebs to be announced soon. This is a show Good As Gold that you won’t want to miss! Buy Tickets Here    Go to www.greenchef.com/shay130 and use code shay130 to get $130 off, plus free shipping   Go to www.modernfertility/shay and ger $20 off your test   Go to www.babbel.com/shay and get 60% off your subscription   Produced by Dear Media See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Y'all, I am so excited to announce it is finally all happening. Shenanigans is going live May 12th in New York City at City Winery. Tickets are available today. You can get them for $25. We're also doing a VIP meet and greet photo op package for $50. And I'm just so excited to meet you guys, finally take the show live and get into some shenanigans. But first, here's today's episode. Hey, beautiful people. My name is Alisa Reynolds, and I'm the executive chef and founder of My Two Cents LA and host of My Last Meal, a new podcast that asks people from all walks of life, whether it's musicians, celebrities, artists, chefs, scientists,
Starting point is 00:00:50 renaissance men and women, what their last meal on earth would be and why. So don't forget to tune in on Fridays. You can find us anywhere you can listen to podcasts, so why not? not. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, everyone. As you hear, we're good as gold MJ and Tommy. Hey guys. Hi guys. Thanks for having us. Thanks for doing this. We've been talking about it for so long. I know. I think it's really important for people that are going through such similar things as us to band together, have a little powwow, have a little kiki,
Starting point is 00:02:20 talk through all of our issues, which I feel as though we have a lot of overlapping issues because yeah i am kind of like a late night tommy doesn't know this um but i am a late night sheena texter uh-huh and then you'll answer and then i'll be pumping and then she calls me they just go backwards and forth i agree i think it's going to be fun to have a chat because we sit at home and you know what at best is the greatest thing for our relationship is watching. Uh, what's that show called now? Oh, married at first sight because they give good relationship advice. But then what they, what you realize is when these couples are together, then when they get together as a group and the guys get together and the girls get together and they start talking about their
Starting point is 00:03:01 issues, guess what? They're all going through the same shit right well everybody is everybody everybody in the relationship goes through the same so glad we're here because i got your back yeah so one of the nights that i caught like if if sheena and i go in like three rounds of texting i'll just say can i just call you and that way to me i feel like hearing a voice and getting the vibes across all the way is what matters so you answer you put me on speaker and then Brock chimes in as I always do so Brock was already listening to what I was saying and I was venting about Tommy and that's when we realized we need to be here we need to sit down and record this conversation for the world to hear. So we were talking about working from home and obviously Brock's working from home is much
Starting point is 00:03:53 different from my working from home and with you guys. So there are times where Brock is on a call and when he's talking to the girls who work for him, I don't. Not for me, with me. With me, with you, whatever. Okay. So when he's talking to them, like I also know them, like I've become friends with these girls. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:04:15 No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, literally. You're besties. No, we're not. We're not besties at all. But I, I like these girls. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:21 No, we're not besties at all. But I like these girls, right? So I just don't take those conversations always necessarily as seriously as when he's on an investor's call or when he has a hard meeting with some big wig from whatever. But there's a lot of times where you're talking to the girls
Starting point is 00:04:40 and I feel like you're just bullshitting with them. And so sometimes I'll interrupt. It's called brainstorming, but she calls it bullshitting.ing but she calls it bullshit they're my co-founders so when we have to get to a root of a problem we just start talking around to try and figure it out it's a natural conversation you'll start talking about the show you'll talk about what's going on in our friend group sometimes you'll tell them about what summer did today so i'm like okay this isn't a serious conversation. I can butt in. It's, it's, it's, if you were in an office space where we would be working, it would
Starting point is 00:05:10 be a normal work environment. We've talked about projects, we talk about ideas, and then we, we, then we also are humans and we still connect with each other. So the conversations you hear me have are normally in an office, but now they're at home where I don't have them. It's the at home aspect it's uh it's very very very very different than what we're used to uh-huh you know what i mean how's it go for you because i'm at home it's awful because you guys do you guys i love being at
Starting point is 00:05:36 home with my little guy i love it it's the best thing on earth i would never like you there's not a dollar on earth there's not an amount that you could give me to give that back. It's the best. Agreed. And she's great too, but she does a lot of what she just did, which is where she walks in and kind of, yeah, I'm going to talk.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You know what I mean? It doesn't seem important. No, it doesn't seem important. Like our housekeeper. I'm more important. That's what that is. Thank you. I'm more important.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And you are important in my life, honey. You really are. Yeah. But we have to figure out how to important in my life, honey. You really are. Yeah. But we have to figure out how to support, like create a life and work for it. Yeah. Like I didn't. It wasn't about money.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Even if you just needed that break to go like do your thing, you know, just let me do my thing. Even taking the breaks an issue. Is it important? Yeah. It's for my mental health. Like I didn't realize that he was on an important call the other day I didn't realize that he's taking it in the bedroom normally he will go outside on our patio or he'll be downstairs
Starting point is 00:06:31 when I'm upstairs we have our new housekeeper starting right so I'm trying to show her like the ins and outs and there was this one part in our house we have fucking termites and I forgot to vacuum them up on my own so I just wanted wanted to show her like, hey, these shutters, open them if you can vacuum up the termites. And so I walk in with her and he's like, honey. And I'm like, what? Oh, sorry. And I was like, I'll be quiet. Mid-pitch to a group of angel investors.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Why were you taking that on the bed in the bedroom? Why wouldn't you go outside for some privacy? You know, our new housekeeper is about to start. Because I had my child my my partner and my mother-in-law downstairs my mom who else was there the nanny was there our nanny was there downstairs like hey guys because you're down here i'm gonna go upstairs and take this call but did i acknowledge you i mean yeah no i don't think i said okay i mean i made it very clear got it nanny heard us but you didn't but i didn't Not important. The nanny didn't walk in on you.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I did. Not important, Tommy. Yeah. My bad. I think the men can compartmentalize a lot differently from a woman. Yeah. So for me, I think it's- We're all equal.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I think it's admirable. Just don't try. I'm going to actually throw you boys a bone and say i think it's really admirable that tommy when he does go into his office his orifice he can stay super focused and whereas my problem which is probably a clinical issue is that i is that i i have a really hard time staying on task because we live at home. And at home is also where all of our other stuff is, right? So the fact a child naturally comes to mom more than dad.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Anyway, wait until like, you guys, when Summer starts walking and talking, she's going to be coming to one of you more and it's probably going to be Sheena. So I'm just saying like what I hear from all of the tension in the room is that you didn't use Waze Rock, which you should have on your way over here for whatever reason. And it's something you often choose not to do. And that's, you know, it's funny because when you get in your car, sometimes that's the best break
Starting point is 00:08:43 that we have these days, because once we get in your car, sometimes that's the best break that we have these days. Because once we get in our car, especially where we live in the basses, we can actually not have any traffic. It's going to be a place where it's like an escape. Whereas before our house was the escape and our house was like this quiet, peaceful place. Now it's like there's six different businesses and four different, you know, friends friends family and on all of the blessed help that we have to keep it going right yeah yeah but as long as there's respect Tommy and I where we started out in our relationship with our baby because I feel like once you have a baby a brand new life begins that you never had before and i think our respect has improved
Starting point is 00:09:27 between each other where like i might snap or he might snap at me but then there's like this lingering lesson and that maybe a couple of months later we've conquered something well you don't want to do things in front of the baby you know what i mean you don't want to it doesn't mean that was in front of the baby no but it's not's not the point. I'm just saying there's a certain, you know, she's the mother of your child. She's the mother of my child. You know what I mean? So when you get into a fight in the past, you might go to a certain point and be mean or whatever. But now it's like, whoa, you're the mother of my kid.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I can't go too far. I get that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So like, and the kids, he's here. You know what I mean? I don the kids he's here you know what i mean i don't want him to see certain things but they'll be more than happy to throw us under the bus real quick so what's your guys living at home so you're working at home baby at home
Starting point is 00:10:17 yeah businesses and all that tell us about this did you have your office back home yes i've always gone to work my whole life so i that's how i look at it when i go in that room i'm going into work and that helps you right that yes go that maybe not the commute but the best part about is having that room having your office that's how that's where you can focus yes yeah that's where we can go all right i gotta get this done this done this done and then i can go outside and play and then i can just step out the door and i'm back on the world but just as you just said it i have a you, I have a whiteboard. I have a daily to-do list.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I have my actual to-do list that I write in. You have two massive to-do lists. So I want to get all that done before I do anything. And she's oblivious. Oblivious. You know what I mean? She doesn't give a shit. When she comes in, whatever it is, it's on the top of a...
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yes. It's Viva. It supersedes anything that you have going on and it's like that really doesn't you know it really wasn't that big a deal you know but uh you know what i i would like to rebut to that i bet you would um we can okay so would you like me to make an appointment with you from like 1 p.m to 1 15 he's asked me to do that he's asked me to book out on his google calendar time okay like that's extreme let's try it though thank you but let's try that because that's a little extreme we're in the fucking same it didn't last very long i was like
Starting point is 00:11:37 for that time she's gonna use the whole fucking time you know what i'm saying like we're gonna we're gonna cover a lot of shit you know what i mean i could just get her out i could try to just get her out that's the other thing i i see where we're at when she comes in it might be an easy thing all right let's knock it out but it might be something where it's like so we need to talk about it off you know what i mean so so you never know okay wait i'm literally wanting to implement this. So we're going to do like a follow-up in like a month. And we're going to see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So first of all, if I don't. She doesn't follow through on it. It's all good. It's all good. So don't sweat it. No, because. We had three New Year's resolutions that we did. And we didn't just do it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's all right. I go down that a little bit like i'm gonna do this i have this i have a whiteboard my to-do list whiteboard uh yeah it took me probably it took me probably like eight months to write this whiteboard up but once we had it up there it's got like a list of 20 things i want to do every single day and they're like and they're basic yeah basic things but then i have exercise in hours say tell my kid and my wife i love them um i got make out for it pass for one minute make out for a minute kiss for a minute it's just like little things took me a while to get on there now i'm starting to get into him but i i do say you did it for like
Starting point is 00:12:56 two days you did it you checked most of them off for one day and then the next day and then it fell off and then you get back on track it's tough it's tough it's tough look To get back on track, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. Look, we know how to do it. Yeah. It's the doing it part with a family, a work, and at home. And when I was solo, that list was all I had to do. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Simple. Yeah, things were easier when you were solo. Now you have- Now we're a team. A team and a baby. So it's a capital T. Yeah, and when we're down in San Diego, I mean, eventually I'm hoping that'll turn into
Starting point is 00:13:31 more of like a vacation home for us. But right now it's our home, it's work. He doesn't have an office. It's just a two bedroom with an office space that has turned into a nursery. I have an office. It's out on that balcony. It's a nursery.
Starting point is 00:13:42 On a swing with like a little table and the bay. It's the best office. It's on a balcony on a swing with like a little with like a little table and the bay. It's the best office. It's not bad. But he doesn't have a room there to go into. But like if the wind blows
Starting point is 00:13:53 then something you were writing can fly away. If something happens someone walks past I look at them so it's very distracting. Or someone will like
Starting point is 00:14:00 recognize you walking past and then you start chatting with them and you're trying to get work done. I love a good distraction. Yeah, it could be distracting, you know, working outside.
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Starting point is 00:16:01 San Diego. San Diego. That's San Diego. The one up here got worse. I just lost my office. Summer is now playing around a lot more. She's like, fuck this room. This room is awesome.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Her playpen is now my playpen for my office. When I put it around my desk, you stay on that side of the room. This is mine. So here's the thing is we are so blessed and fortunate to have three beautiful places to live. We have our desert house that i own in palm springs we have our beach house which is our escape usually and then la is like our work
Starting point is 00:16:31 apartment but now when we're moving back to la in a couple months we're gonna have a one-year-old who's walking around who's not just a newborn baby in this apartment that you could just go into any other room with and she just sleeps right so not just that you could just go into any other room with and she just sleeps. Right. Not just that. You're going to realize everything can kill her. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't, when they start moving around, it's, no, it's like, oh, wow, the corner of that and the plug, you know, the outlet. Like, you're just going to think on a different level.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Like, holy shit. And it's real intimidating. So, like, you can't, you know, right now she might be in bed in the other room and you could let her be there for a second when they start moving around you gotta see you gotta be aware i hope i hope he feels that way because his whole like mentality is she'll be all right like he doesn't worry about a single thing like do you guys ever worry about sham's choking or did you when he first started eating well it's not that I don't worry about it. No, you just think she's always going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:17:27 As soon as she makes that, I look at her. I'm like, you've got this kid. You've got it. And then she's like, hey, if not, I'm there with the pat on the back. A hundred percent. I know, but it's just like, how does it feel to just like not worry about stuff? Well, it's different. Just to stick up for him.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's different. The dad in us, you have to do dangerous things in life as a baby carefully. That's how they're going to grow. That's how they're going to grow. If you try, like even yesterday, we were at, for no rules, for Persian New Year. Persian, shout out. We were at. Shout out to Persian.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Thank you. We were at her family's house, and Shams was by the pool. We're both standing there. Vida had a heart attack that he wasams was by the pool we're both standing there vita had a heart attack that he was but that close by the pool you know but it's like he's if you act this nuts he's gonna want to go in the pool you know what i'm saying because and she's like the tide we're in the backyard in a pool i'm like what do you think's gonna happen there's two of us standing right here she falls in and it's a foot of water it's actually a she's like she's like you know the tide is gonna take him out the tide is gonna
Starting point is 00:18:31 take him out to the middle of the pool i'm like what are you talking about so yeah man so i i get what you're saying yeah you gotta kind of let them go exposing the dangerous things in controlled environments i just wish that you appreciated or understood or could just get in my sick dark mind at times to understand how much more chill i am out loud than what actually can go on inside my head i bet a hundred percent i bet okay in our head thousand i get that but my my perfect analogy for what he said for like for letting someone learn is this when you fall honey you have horrific falls you fall you bust your knee up you bust your face up because i'm putting it down to this blame my mom you never fell over when you were a child
Starting point is 00:19:17 your mother called you every single time or didn't put you in a position for you to fall over and i know this because she's such a good mother. But that's why it's really important that there is a father in the house. Because to me, your job is to do exactly what you're doing. You don't ever want her to get hurt. You don't ever want that shit. You know what I'm saying? His job is to make sure that if she does, she doesn't get too hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah, she bounces back up from it. I see what you're saying. She can bounce back and move forward. So I think it's real important because when you got i was raised by a single mother you got to be both yeah it's difficult it's real hard you know but uh i think that yeah hats off to i was raised by my mom as well i mean my dad has been obviously in the picture my whole life but they didn't get married till i was nine so it was just me and my mom that's the formative shit yeah you know what i mean nine up to nine that's when it's you know yeah a lot of the stuff that you don't
Starting point is 00:20:09 realize now you're looking back and it's like holy shit that stuff i learned when i was a little kid you know what i mean so i think that it's important that you have both dynamics to to you know but what i hear which is just i'm kind of like just saying in an ideal world, we all said that we want to be at home working from home because we get all the time possible with the baby. But what would be ideal for the relationship, the marriage, the mom and the dad would be leaving the house, going to a completely separate place, not seeing each other for eight or nine hours and then coming back home.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And that gives us like the, carves out the space to be able to be out of each other's way. And yeah, instead of like the fact that you have to hear the sound of my slippers, not that I, my slippers are silent. I hear other people's slippers like clomp, clomp,
Starting point is 00:21:03 drag, drag. Like a giant. As if. Like a giant. She thunders around the house like aomp, clomp, drag, drag. She see five photos around the house, bro, like a giant. As if. Like a giant. She thunders around the house like a Clydesdale. All five, two of me. I swear.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like a Clydesdale. And except when food's got out, then all of a sudden she turns into a ninja and you turn around and the fucking food's gone. The fuck happened? She's got it in the fucking face. She's got it in the fucking face. Opposite taste in food, by the way. Like anything that I like, he thinks is food By the way Like anything that I like
Starting point is 00:21:25 He thinks is gross Rabbit food And anything that I like That he likes I'm like The difference is She'll cross to my side of the street She'll eat the shit I leave
Starting point is 00:21:33 And then And then leave you with the shit That you don't want Yeah Yeah bro I didn't want that I wouldn't No
Starting point is 00:21:42 But to her credit She wants to eat healthy And I order shit So she's like you know she'll eat the shit you know if you put it there you're gonna eat it so after having a baby how did you guys because i know we saw a little bit on the show this past season but i want to talk about how things change what i think people don't really realize necessarily until you have a baby, your sex life changes, your date nights.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You're just at that intimate time. So how the fucking, uh, a pandemic. Yeah, exactly. Throw that in. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:15 what the fuck? You don't even have anything to rely on. Yeah. I'm a voracious reader. I read, you know, last year I read 64 books. I try to read a book a week. There's no book. There's nothing to read because there's i read you know last year i read 64 books i try to read a book a week
Starting point is 00:22:25 there's no book there's nothing to read because there's no you know no one's been through a pandemic you know spanish flu you know what i mean like there's nothing really to go back and to look and say how do we live and how do we adjust it was crazy man and then we filmed on top it was nuts yeah i think it's really you know, like the couple that the person you were five years before you got married and then someone will tell you that, you know, when you have a baby, you guys are going to be too exhausted for sex. And you're like, no way. Not me.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Not me. We're never going to be too tired. What are you talking about? Sex is number one. Sex is the most important thing in a relationship. If I didn't have sex, it's not a relationship. I used to feel that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And but guess what right now i believe strongly and proudly that sleep is the most that's what i believe shit man yeah and you're giving you're getting sleep apnea too so i don't really sleep well i'm so locked i'm tired that's true and so when you're giving your 100% best every single day, and I'm probably giving, not probably we're giving a hundred percent of ourselves to our kid and then nothing is left except you want to not be sleep deprived and delirious and psycho. Then so be it for a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's such a fleeting time. Yeah. They're going to be in high school before we know it. And they're going to be going off to college before we know it i don't ever think we're going to look back and regret being a really good mom or dad you know you know and thankfully good point babe good point yes i agree and we also have had like epic sex our whole life and i think that even we've had a good innings yeah we did well yeah yeah we can look back on those memories oh i hear that there is a moment like we're not we didn't invent this situation there will be a time when the baby starts to enter toddlerhood and then you do recircle back to each other yeah yeah okay and i think that will come and i think that'll be even better because the amount of
Starting point is 00:24:24 respect you have for each other for being able to support each other to do 100 of not in how many right like you said a lot of relationships focus on themselves but now we're outwards but we get to come back together and to have that support oh yeah let's bang that one out there used to be a time where like when i have it doesn't have it totally like there were there were months that like tommy wouldn't get his haircut as often said he'd be in a grumpy mood because he needs that barbershop shave you know or like obviously women we have more even more of those like our backs our chiropractors that we need on speed dial so of course like of course self-care is understated not taxed about enough yeah i do my acupuncture
Starting point is 00:25:07 twice a week and that's down in san diego but that's like the one thing i make sure it just it also kind of doubles as like therapy because she will listen to whatever's going on she has great advice she knows both of us very well but you do she didn't say a fucking word you need that mental break you know what i mean you need that where it's like he's got the kid I don't have any responsibilities right now For the next couple of hours I could just be me And relax Again going back to the working at home
Starting point is 00:25:35 The quarantine all that shit We're social beings and we need to interact With other beings Even if it's not even saying a word Even if it's just you She'll go out and get a coffee yeah you know she needs that yeah she needs that i like yeah like there was a time in our relationship when tommy and i love to like right now this is all banter it's positive we're like busting balls right but you went through it but yeah there were times when i was like i felt disrespected and
Starting point is 00:26:06 he felt disrespected and the worst thing that we've ever done to each other is make the other feel bad yeah like unappreciated yeah and so we both kind of learned um that's the last thing we want to do what's that what's word? I am not your enemy. So when I take my stress out 100% she's like, what are you talking about? It's nothing to do with me. It's because you're my partner and I feel like I'm entitled to talk to you
Starting point is 00:26:37 like this because you have to. Men hold a lot of shit in too. I like that. We need to find someone to unload on. Yeah, but I just am at the point too where i just won't even react or i will lose my fucking shit yeah like it's one or the other there's no like arguing in between i've spent 10 years arguing on reality tv i'm too old for that i'm too tired for that there's too many more important things yes so now it's like when he acts like that
Starting point is 00:27:03 i'm just like okay all right are you done but that's also you found your person yeah you know what i mean someone else you're not gonna just sit there and take that i don't give a fuck yeah yeah but i can see it from like an outside perspective no but when you found that person she does it with me there's times where i'm like a whiny little bitch you know i'll be the first to tell you right yeah real good a couple of the worst you want to see me at my worst get me tired if i'm tired i'm like a whiny little bitch bro i'm like a little and i get there but she'll just kind of just sorry i'll take it you know today i'm gonna take it and i think he appreciates that right tommy you have to you know because again it's happening like if you know if you
Starting point is 00:27:45 know you're happening and i'm not going out on the street to do it right i'm not gonna fight some guy in the park yeah because that's what that's what would happen that's me that's what did happen what the fuck did you just say to me you know what i mean like that's what's gonna go down bro oh yeah we've seen i got fucking you know what i mean so it's like all right you can't let that happen I'll just yell at her for a little bit Can we have a little update on that On a Reza update
Starting point is 00:28:10 There were a lot of questions that came in That's it Go to Australia mate I'm grateful for my wife I'm grateful for my son I'm grateful that we're all healthy I'm grateful for I'm grateful for the 11 11 uh is it sheena is it grateful rock i'm grateful for uh
Starting point is 00:28:26 several times a day yeah i said yeah i said a few along i like it yeah no it gives me that you know i did you read 60 books last year how do you read so often what like what should they look like for reading because i want to be better at reading that's on my list that's one of the things so it's like i if she doesn't like I want her to look at that list and say, I need to support him to get that done. You know what I mean? Like, he wants to, that's trying to better him. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's trying to better him. He's trying to better us. He's trying to better our family. I want to support him. So, like, if I'm looking, because I check them off as I go. And it's like, oh, shit, I haven't checked those off. Maybe I should not come in here and fucking ask him about the toy you eat today uh-huh you know what I mean like so that's our dog yeah
Starting point is 00:29:10 so I like that so you have to feed your dog so you got it's simple tasks to get done yeah but if I can do them I have the same one but mine's in in our bathroom it's on my mirror on the white board underneath so it's in my face now I'm like I'm gonna make sure but yeah it's just if i can do those little things but to read i want to become better at reading and so with your work family and all that do you read in the morning do you read in the evening when do you find time to get your or is it just however you can find time ideally when he's at school okay and she's gone for her coffee school so i have the hour so that would be nap time yeah i don't take an hour i have a book i'll give you that will actually help you increase the speed of your reading and retain it yeah that's um retaining
Starting point is 00:29:51 we don't know about that one but i want to try and work on reading that's for sure yeah i have a book i'll give you it helped me a lot okay a lot i don't want to read anything i don't read anything like there there are books that i wish I could read I even have an audio book I got to like the fourth chapter and I was really enjoying it and then I just fell off and I just like I don't have the attention span
Starting point is 00:30:11 to read it if I need to if I need to learn something I will read it just for that purpose right like I'll read every what to expect article
Starting point is 00:30:19 and know everything about I love the who's who's the people magazine articles oh no it said fuck him out of housewife yeah bro bro we could get a dissertation dude And know everything about. I love the who's who's. The People Magazine articles. Oh no, Fitz had a fucking mouth of housewife? Bro.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Bro, we could get a dissertation, dude. You know what I mean? She could write a thesis. On why the fuck, you know, Luann sucks. You know what I mean? Bro. She'll get deep. She'll dig the closet.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Give her a book to read? Yeah. No, last year we were supposed to. It was one of our. She's the worst. It was one of our new resolutions to combine us. We were going to read books together. I pick one. She would pick one each month.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. I did. So she got to pick first. She made me read some shitty fucking book about cleaning your room. It was just the Marie Kondo, obviously. Marie Kondo fucking folding clothes and shit. Fucking awful. And then I gave her my book.
Starting point is 00:31:06 She's like, never picked it up. Never picked it up. But, wait, what's the question? So, first of all, first of all, Brock, I see like a part two. I think you guys are going to come on to our pod and we're going to have
Starting point is 00:31:21 kind of like, I think the genesis of this idea is unfolding as we speak, that I'm going to have kind of like I'm I think the genesis of this idea is happening as unfolding as we speak that I'm going to send a screenshot. Am I allowed to of your boards to Sheena? Yeah. And then yeah. And then we could see like how it goes down, because the the one thing that we will fight about today is if like if I come which puzzles me if i come in to ask you if toy has been fed i'm sorry honey i should be able to ask you a question like that like you shouldn't be triggered by that it's not the question no no it's not if i said yeah she's not gonna turn around and walk what food did you give her did you give her the wet food or the dry food
Starting point is 00:32:05 how much did you have oh by the way oh man one of the reasons why we can't even have like we have to buy rugs area rugs that we can donate or garbage in a year because like we can when they say like you can't have nice things we're one of those people who can't have nice things because we like are heavy-handed and we you know like the wear and tear is like ridiculous so obviously if we have a nice rug in our home i need to know if our dog has been fed or if i'm about to overfeed her so stop with that i that. Like that's not cool. Just always assume I didn't feed her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Enough talk about the dogs and let's talk about fertility. So if y'all follow me on Instagram, you saw that I recently posted for modern fertility and you know that I am a huge advocate for being on top of your fertility as I've frozen my eggs twice. And when I went to freeze them a third time, I found out I was pregnant. But I just think it is so important for women to be on top of their fertility. I mean, I've always been a big fan of planning ahead, you know, either scheduling trips in advance, plotting out my next career move or figuring out what I'm doing for dinner while I'm still eating breakfast. But I hadn't thought much about planning for kids until the last few years of my life. I'm like, you know, in my mid 30s, I was single at the time I froze my eggs. And now they have things like modern fertility, which is so awesome that at home you can check your fertility levels. It's an easy and affordable
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Starting point is 00:34:30 modernfertility.com slash Shea. That means your test will cost $139 instead of the hundreds or thousands it could cost at a doctor's office. Get $20 off your fertility test when you go to modernfertility.com slash Shea. Modernfertility.com slash Shea. You guys have your podcast, Tilt the Dirt. Thank you. Tell me about how that started, how it's going, working together. I know you also have your YouTube channel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You guys are doing YouTube now? Yep, man. Yeah, he doesn't even know. We feature each other on each other's channels. So on the bottom of the channel, it says suggested other page i love that that's so good yeah yeah well a lot of like-minded people are watching your channel i'm sure this is 100 and it's a great way for you guys to really open up to your audiences and look that's it's the way we're going you know absolutely yeah absolutely you can tell your own story. It's so true. Absolutely. I mean, we started this conversation talking about being able to relate and connect and
Starting point is 00:35:30 feel like you're not going through this life alone. And the best way that we do that is with our reason for it is not self-serving. It's more to be like, hey, guys, we've been through this. Chances are we can laugh together going through it, learn from each other. And it incidentally did help us too because when we retell the story of our lives and our experiences like IVF, meeting on Tinder,
Starting point is 00:35:58 meeting the family, all of the different bumps in the road, then he'll turn around and he'll say, you know what? I didn't realize this until now that we're going back and retelling the story. Yeah. Yeah, and you're always more objective. You know what I mean? When you take a lot of the heat
Starting point is 00:36:13 or a lot of the emotion out of the moment, it always allows you to be more practical, you know, going forward. But it's just a retelling of our stories from, you know, when we met. And everything correlates. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Everything. Anybody in a relationship is like, oh, yeah, it might not be the same thing, but it's the same thing. You know what I mean? It's been a blast to do. We've been doing it since, what, August of last year so far? It's been doing real well, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, totally. Super fun. Yeah, we really enjoy it. Fill the dirt where anywhere podcasts can be heard. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So what advice would you two have for Brock? I mean, hopefully. Why was it the strength for Brock? Because it's going to relate to them. So hopefully. We never know. I don't know if you guys know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:59 We never know if we're picked up until like last minute. And they're like, you're filming next week. You know? That's exactly how it is for us. Yeah. It's the same thing. So what advice would you have for Brock? You know, this is still a newer relationship, but you know, going into a second season, hopefully on a reality show.
Starting point is 00:37:16 How do you guys deal with just everything? Do you feel like you fight more on camera, off camera? Do you feel there's more tension when there's cameras? Yes. I definitely feel like there's more tension when there's cameras. Yeah. Absolutely. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:37:30 The one thing we say in unison. When you're throwing the baby in the mix, it's even more exemplified by that. So I think that. Amplified. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a tough thing to do, but there's worse ways to get paid. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You know what I mean? Yeah. It beats carrying cement. You know what i mean like carrying cement you know what i'm saying these guys out there having a lot more you know a lot more tougher job so but at the end of the day it's a lot like when you just see it you see the finished product you don't think it's like oh that's so easy it's like nah bro it's 12 hours would you fucking do it what you work today for 12 hours yeah you know what i mean because that's what it is yeah just navigating parenthood, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:05 on a reality show and there are cameras. You know, we were home from the hospital three days before we started filming last season. I wouldn't let that happen. How old was Shams when y'all started filming? Seven weeks. Okay. Okay, so we were very, very same time.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah. I think if Tommy and I would have started filming, then it would have been right when he was born. Yeah, they were looking to get us coming. She was too young to be on camera. You have to be 15 days to be on camera. And when we got home from the hospital, I was hospitalized for five extra days. She was like a week old.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So yeah, maybe nine days when we started filming. Right. Yeah. So yeah, maybe nine days when we started filming. Right. Yeah. And so the way that that would have worked out would have been I was in labor and filming, the cameras were up. But, you know, we did take a step back for several weeks, a long time. Just to breathe a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. It was a good move. Yeah. No, I have no regrets i'm i'm over here thinking about brock because of your question sheena like when like i saw the most current season of vpr are you watched it yes i walked through that shadow the vet of death i think but i think you'll be fine bro because you seem to be but i want to talk in your skin and that's most important you did a lot in other words like you put yourself out there so much you were so brave and vulnerable you were super honest
Starting point is 00:39:33 whereas a lot of people are not honest and open and i remember this moment when the two of you guys were on watch what happens and someone asked you, Brock, do you regret talking about such and such referring to your family? And you said that you had shared it with Lala off camera, right? And that was something that stuck with me where I was like, you know, that would be one of those moments where you go back and you're like, fuck, do I regret that? Because of all of the things that happen, domino effect after,
Starting point is 00:40:09 Because it's not really fair if you're a good guy and you made mistakes a long time ago to be now portrayed as Sheena's not good guy, especially she deserves. And you deserve, but let's call the fucking spade a spade. None of these people, everybody on these shows has fucking skeletons in their closets yeah you know what i mean they're not infallible they're not all great you were in trouble because you walked into a successful show
Starting point is 00:40:33 that's been on for a long time so they need they needed fresh blood yeah after a pandemic we haven't filmed in two years and no jobs and no britney yeah that was crazy right because yeah i came into the show well like when i met sheena we met in san diego i met her on my my my ground she wasn't filming then we also had a pandemic so i was like oh cool and then nothing so if it wasn't for that pandemic and we didn't have our relationship where i was comfortable in be a different story going into the season when we started filming. But then when we started filming and that started coming up, I was like, well, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Look, you know what? I think now, I can say it now, looking back on it, I was more upset of the fact that I had to deal with it, talk about it, because I wasn't proud of my actions. Right. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And then to be accountable for that was the hardest part. That was what was more upsetting. But then when I realized, okay, if this is going to be a story like i'm going to tell you how it is yeah i remember going to lisa before i spoke to lisa i was like okay i'm just going to brush down the rug we'll just move on and then all of a sudden lisa's like stop take a drink breathe talk to me and i was just was like well this is what i did bang and then but from saying that i was like at least now i know I'm telling my story. My truth's out.
Starting point is 00:41:48 That's it. Now what are you going to say to me? And then fast forward six months, and then, well, look at this season now. We're looking at a relationship where there's just me, you, Tom, and Sandoval and Ariana together, and everyone else is having their problems, you know? Right. Which is unfortunate, but I guess this is the nature of the show, show right we're all going to have opinions on each other's relationships i get
Starting point is 00:42:08 that so as long as i can stay true to what i am and have an opinion from there perfect you had to keep coming back yeah like what you did or whatever whatever because i don't know you know i honestly don't it's not my thing yeah you know what i mean watching this stuff but uh but you had to explain you would know yourself a lot but once you do i did you had to apologize i did you know what i mean watching this stuff but uh but you had to explain you would know yourself a lot but once you do i did you had to apologize i did you know what i mean i don't mean i'm not going back there again you try and bring it up one more time bro we'll see what happens yeah oh it's just unnecessary you know what i mean it's like all right cool i was i did whatever i did seven years ago and you keep trying to put that thumb in my eye with it it's right right that's that's annoying that's the only annoying thing is that when you have to overdo an apology or like relive and it's like overdone feels like it's beating a
Starting point is 00:42:52 dead horse that gets really annoying because then people can have the wrong takeaway when you deserve 10 other things to be highlighted it's definitely interesting to understand like that reality world like how because here's the best part about it. Just because how I have one, we have one conversation. There's other conversations of that conversation happening and we don't see those.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Guess who sees that? Production. So they really understand the complexity of what's happening. And they really do because once we leave this room, we're going to have other conversations. So they see that
Starting point is 00:43:21 and I kind of understand that. I really- Yeah, they see three, three four five sides to it and they go oh we've got the best approach yeah and that's and that's and this is why this you got their shows are so popular because without a filter that we have and this is how i took the season on i'll get rid of that filter that little nice person on my shoulder i'll have an opinion then fuck it yeah there it is and that's what the show everyone's like scripted i was like no it's real events we just we just really lean into it.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah. And you have to. You have to speed up. And you have to have thick skin. But in respect, I think for us, I respect Sheena and what she does. And I'll let her offend herself. I don't need to be the man to jump in and save her. And she doesn't need to jump in and save me.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But sometimes it's nice to have someone jump in. I'll throw a headbutt. If I need to, there'll be a headbutt. But if I headbutt anyone in this cast, they'll be in trouble. So I can't do anything aggressive. We don't need you headbutt if i if i need to there'll be a headbutt but if i headbutt anyone in this cast they'll be in trouble yeah so i can't do anything you don't need to headbutt you have to do head butts with your words yeah i'll just sit there and smile and be like okay and listen sometimes it's just like sheena it might not be lying mj might not be lying but there's just two different interpretations of truth that's it truth is a circle it's objective bro you know what i mean like she might really see it that way and you should really see it that way and you know someone
Starting point is 00:44:29 else could see it entirely differently you know what i mean and the producers who are trying to be objective and have no dog in a fight they're just trying to put out all right well this is this four different sides to this story so i'm gonna try and you know and we got time constraints yeah i'm gonna try and edit it to give you the best view of each yeah you know but when it's you it's like no that's not how shit went down you know what i'm saying that's how it was with me and red it's like yo that's not how that shit went down right you know what i'm saying so i looked at it like they're protecting him you know what i'm saying yeah but sometimes it's not sometimes it's just like we only got so much time in an episode that's it you know what i mean and so Yeah. But sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's just like, we only got so much time in an episode.
Starting point is 00:45:05 That's it. You know what I mean? And so I think for us, like for me, understanding that. Yeah. It's not personal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 It's, it's more than it's my, it's all of that. And I think if you can, and I took that into the season and I look forward to the opportunity that there's a lot worse ways to get paid next season. Yeah. A lot worse ways to get paid a lot worse ways to spend your time.
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Starting point is 00:47:20 So how are things with like Reza right now? Because obviously, I know we touched on it a little bit, but are you and him still close? So I'm really, really happy to say that Reza and I are working our way back to a good place. And it has, we have been working on it for a long time now. So now it's much better than where we left off before. So that's, you know, it is difficult when I want to have something positive, but then if it's not all the way, you know, okay with Tommy and Reza, then that makes me feel really anxious just even thinking about it. So, you know, the bigger question would be like hopefully
Starting point is 00:48:05 the restraining order will become a thing of the distant past and that way like maybe they can start you know, just kind of like being what amicable and you know. Cordial. Yeah. The Reza still hasn't met baby Shams. No, not yet. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Good thinking. And he's how old now? You guys did that in unison he's gonna be three this year damn soon yeah they do they grow up so quick it's like weeds that's crazy yeah we're gonna come to your to summer's birthday party she's one and then yeah and then i want to keep her away from my kid bro i'm just telling you she's a little he's a ladies flat. He's a ladies man, bro. He's a ladies man. Another, a lot of people also wanted to know, how is your relationship with Vida right now and how has it grown?
Starting point is 00:48:52 Darth Vida and I are cool. She's the baddest bitch in the galaxy. You know what I mean? She really is. The Fosse is strong with me. The Fosse is strong. The Force? Yeah, the Fosse.
Starting point is 00:49:03 The Fosse is strong with me. I get it. But yeah. Listen, the Fosse. The Fosse is strong with me. I get it. Listen, that's my mama bear, bro. So I protect her. I can deal with Vida. She doesn't bother me. Sometimes she goes a little too crazy with her, and that's all.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Now I got a kid, too. So it's different. She's got to treat people with respect when she's around my kid. She's still really tough on me, and she's great with the grandbaby. So with her grandson. So it's good at least. Yeah, it is. But like, we're all in it together. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how you guys feel because obviously your mom plays a big role.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Thank God. Yeah. But like if there's a vibe that's messing with everyone's peacefulness, Like if there's a vibe that's messing with everyone's peacefulness, then it's going to get into it permeates. Right. So with my mom, it's like a constant battle. We're like, are we going to have a good day or are we going to not? And Tommy tells me that I'm always nervous, even like two days before I'm going to see my mom, because she's like just for Persian New Year yesterday. She was like, make sure you look good this year to make up for last year when you didn't yeah she basically rattled off the exact oh yeah her mom has no filter you know it's like whoa whoa that's keeping you up man yeah you think
Starting point is 00:50:17 you think my mom has opinions honey no it's great i mean it's the culture as well though understand also i don't know is your mother on the show? Yes. Okay, Darth Vader's been on the show for a long time, and she's been, you know, her fans, because she has fans, love her. So it's almost emboldened her
Starting point is 00:50:38 to do an act. Hello, welcome to reality. You know what I mean? So she thinks, like, oh, no, I'm going to let it out. So there has been times where I've literally had to kick her I mean? So she thinks like, oh no, I'm going to let it out. I'm going to let it go. Yeah. So there has been times where I've literally had to kick her out of the house because like we had someone working with the baby
Starting point is 00:50:50 that she made cry. Like, you know, people say you can't talk to like around the kid like that. You know what I mean? So my mom, so my mom gets told all the time. I wish you were my mom.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I know you don't. So I'm like, do you though? Do you even know what you're asking it's tough like my mom should be hired to roast people and that's why like she actually oh my god recently joined cameo oh yes it's great it's the fans it's great no but like she's not gonna do what you want to do. She's going to be very nice and very kind. That's not what they want, Vida. They want you to tell your daughter that your daughter's fat.
Starting point is 00:51:34 They want you to tell your kid or they want you to roast somebody. She won't do it. I'm going to go order a cameo right now. You should put in the subject line roast. It's very nice of Papa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. She's very thankful. Someone, yeah, this one person graduated from Harvard Law and they were like, tell her why didn't she become a doctor
Starting point is 00:51:57 like her mom and dad? And my mom was like, no, but it's Harvard Law. We're like, okay, you got to get the assignment, honey. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:10 So, yeah. So who are you guys at the moment closest with in the group? I know obviously me and Nima have our group chat. I know you guys are extremely close. Yes. Which shout out Nima band. I hope you're listening. There he is.
Starting point is 00:52:24 He will be. Yeah. um which shout out nema band i hope you're listening there he is um he will be yeah so um we're close sherbin nema mike paulina um even gold nessa believe it or not some people think that like we have a lot of you know a lot of love there though and then um i think that's everyone so yeah that's good and you know i was just holding on to this question she goes she'll make free she goes to the park and comes home with three friends and then we got to go out with them you know what i mean that's good yeah i met this couple you're gonna love them it's gonna be great we're gonna go we're gonna burn a saturday it's gonna be awesome yeah no it's true though i think i've become way i'm way more social and he just needs the
Starting point is 00:53:14 mets and he likes to cook his dinners and then food coma and hang out my kid his family yeah that's it so even outside of that like she's got other friends where it's like i'm good you know what i mean i mean no restraining orders obviously you know but there's other friends where it's like oh she's gonna go hang out with so go you know what i mean have fun see you now i get to hang out by myself today it's no you know so i don't care she has friends that i don't like it's only. We come from two entirely different places. You know what I'm saying? You couldn't, if you put us on and said these two are gonna
Starting point is 00:53:49 work, people would laugh at you, dude. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we couldn't be more different or come from different places. So it's only logical that she's gonna have certain friends that it's like, I'm good, dude. I think that if Tommy can't relate to the guy, like if the four of us were to go on a double date, he would only come if he would be like,
Starting point is 00:54:07 yeah, I'll have a good time with Brock. Yeah. We'll break bread. We'll go out to dinner, do whatever, or even like take the kids out. He's all about doing something. I'll always give one or two. I'll always give one or two go outs.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You know what I mean? But if like that first two were, I'm not going for the third. That's funny. Have we done that? We haven't really gone out with like couples, right? We've met couples. We should go out together.
Starting point is 00:54:31 We've had these conversations with people when we meet them. We just did that in Vegas. I said, I knew you would really like Johnny's husband, Rob. You're right, actually. I met this legend called Dird. And then she was cool with us. We have to go continue that relationship. Yeah, we said we need to hang out with more couples and especially not not like to knock any of our other
Starting point is 00:54:49 friends but couples especially who have children yes who understand what we're going through at home every day it's totally it's a totally different world yeah i hate to be that guy because you know you can you hear that when they sound so smug like oh you don't understand you're not but you really don't you don't understand so and especially with a little one you know when they're a little older maybe it's different right when you're 11 months bro like it's fucking yeah yeah dude you're in the foxhole take a grenade but you know what's kind of beautiful right now is that we both all four of us meaning us four have one child right now.
Starting point is 00:55:25 So if we, Tommy would be totally down to also like do a Disneyland. He loves to do bounce houses and he loves activities. Perfect, there's one at the party. Totally. So like that's what he's always been into. Like, let's go do something. And then it's an opportunity where like Sheena
Starting point is 00:55:42 and I can hang out and then Brockck and tommy can hang out and then you know there will be moments where we can be in charge of the kids and but you don't you know two adults per infant is an ideal number yeah the ratio is good so you can have your guard kind of down and like trade off and then i know for a fact that there are going to be moments that Tommy Brock, Sheena, and I will say like, thank God for today because it takes a little bit of that pressure off,
Starting point is 00:56:12 you know, of that grind that we are all busting our butts for every day. I think, I think the biggest one from today is like, you guys have gone through these experiences and you've come out of the back to be able to talk about them. Just doing that itself, letting people know what you're dealing with is normal. You're going to come out. That's a big lesson for people to learn because sometimes that's the divider in them. Like they don't see the light. They're like, nah, this is not going to,
Starting point is 00:56:37 and then relationships break up. And I think, you know, it's. No, but you just said it. We could say it. You could all say it, but you don't know. So you know what I mean? You got to know if you're with the right person. If you're with the right person, then yeah, you're going to come out on the other side. But sometimes you start throwing too much shit in there. And it really, it's like, you know, the other warts start to show, you know, and you can't. I think that when Tommy and I, like, if we argue about something and I'll just take the boy we'll go for a drive we'll spend the day at the beach and by the time we came home I feel like I've
Starting point is 00:57:13 given him the space where he can walk back from it and then we don't need to have these big conversations like we kind of squashed it by just having a little alone time, but there would have been a time where I needed to talk about every little thing. And I needed to like work every little thing out. And I'm like, no, I don't need to like, did you get it? Did you figure it out? Are you going to speak with like kinder approach next time? And if I see that you do that then i'm good you know so i think she loves me because that's i can't do that you know what i mean i can't have those fucking conversations where we're gonna sit there for an hour i'll go insane you know so she knows that all right tommy
Starting point is 00:57:56 i can't do that she could have those conversations with sheena she could have it with you know brandon or you know any of her friend group. But me, I'll go fucking nuts. Especially if it's something that we're fighting about. You know what I mean? I just want it over with, dude. We'd love to have you guys on Till the Dirt. Yes! You have to come to us. I don't think they're going to let us
Starting point is 00:58:18 into West Hollywood anymore. Oh my god, he needs to diss my feet. With an open toe sandal and no pedicure in the last three months. Stop! Stop! So you he needs to diss my feet. With an open toe sandal and no pedicure on the last three months. Stop. I don't think they want us back on the side of the hill. So you probably have to come to us. No, no. You're going to come over to our house.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yes. And we can't wait to see and have you guys and see Summer and celebrate her first birthday. Definitely. No, I can't wait to come and see your house. And 100%, like, it's important to make friends with children and hang out with couples that are having percent, like it's important to make friends with and hang out with couples that are having young kids because it is important to have each other during these formative years.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And at the age of one to two, they just parallel play. Children are not really interacting with each other. So it's just about summer and the world that she's discovering by herself. just about summer and the world that she's discovering by herself yeah so it's really just like nuggets of like other couples that are going through or have something to teach you it's like what really life is about so i like are you gonna come out of here and say we'll hang out with brock because sheena and i already know that we love each other. Totally, babe. Locking down the second date on the first date. That's really what she just did. Especially once we're back in
Starting point is 00:59:31 LA in a couple months and we'll be here full time. We do. We need more mom and dad friends. I mean, yeah. You need more friends up here. They're already my friends, but you know what I'm saying? We need to hang out with them more. I think we have to make an effort. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Well, it's really important for the kids. It is. She's not lying. Like when, you know, you'll see them, you'll see how, when they get in an age group, they just, they just gravitate to each other and they're off doing their thing and it's important for them. You know, they're with you all the time. They're with, he's with us all the time.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah. Summer loves being around other little babies. Yeah. She loves it. Yeah. She loves it. Yeah. That's cool. Well, thank you very much for coming in, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Thank you guys so much. Can't wait to come on till the dirt, you guys. Be sure to check out their podcast wherever you listen to your podcasts. MJ, Tommy,
Starting point is 01:00:17 love you guys. Thanks for having us. Take care, guys. And if you guys know, because I didn't tell you this yet, we have a two city podcast a live podcast that we're doing in new york yeah wait what yes so we're just wanted to make sure and announce
Starting point is 01:00:33 monday may 9th and wednesday may 11th and you can get the info from till the dirt podcast yeah we uh we are part owner in new york we're part owner of peak vodka peak seven vodka and uh they're sponsoring it really i'm from queen so it's like yeah that i know uh it should be good it should be a good time that's so exciting and you know what's so crazy is may 12th i'm doing a live shenanigans in new york no way wow that's why i text you yesterday and i said, also, what's your plan for Hannah's wedding?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Because I wanted to see if you could be a guest for my live show. That's why we're doing it that week. Yeah. Okay, so now you're for sure coming. I'm for sure going to be there
Starting point is 01:01:16 on the 12th for my live podcast. So you guys stay tuned. More info to come. Yes. But yeah. Exciting. We're all finally doing it.
Starting point is 01:01:25 All right. Live podcast, baby. Let's take it on the streets. I'll be there. We'll be there doing it. Live podcast, baby. Let's take it on the streets. We're doing it in a bar too, so it's going to be fucking nuts. Yeah. I'm so excited. It's going to be a city winery. City winery.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Okay. And it doesn't overlap. We can totally be there for each other. Bang, bang, bang. Ours is at 310 Bowery Bar. Love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Well, thank you guys so much for listening. And if you're in New York, come and check us out in May. Yeah. Bye. Thanks for listening to Shenanigans with Sheena Shea.
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