Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - unintentionally messy

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

This week, Scheana sits down with her sister Cortney and Brock to dish on the latest episode of Vanderpump Rules and answer your questions! Does she have any regrets this season thus far? What worries Scheana about Summer? Will they raise her religious? What were their high school relationships like? Tune in to find out their answers and so much more!!    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.     Produced by Dear Media See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to Motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. Hello, hello. Back in the studio with my hubby and my sis. Hi. How we doing, guys? Caffeined up. This is on coffee number two of the day.

I know, right? Same here. Yeah, I'm feeling good. Feeling good. I'm actually excited for tonight, not gonna lie. After this, we're heading to our friend Hannah's place. Yeah. And she's hosting us for our second murder mystery. And just for everyone listening and everyone at home, Courtney came with us to the first time we did this. And obviously, it was the first time.

It was great, but Courtney crushed it. And me and Sheena got eliminated. And we're looking for redemption tonight. Yeah, you and I worked together a bit, though. Sheena was in a different bracket. So there were so many people there. So me and Brock were in the same murder mystery universe uh-huh yeah i made it all the way till the end and then it was 2 a.m so we just didn't know yeah we left we were

like all right we're done we played what was it we sudoku sudoku my team killed it at sudoku that's like my go-to airplane game yeah so if like the wi-fi sucks you can't do anything i all i do is level up in sudoku so we spoke about this last time why do you not how when are you going to apply for big brother oh yeah well i'm seating it tonight there's a ton of big brother cast there um yeah i am hoping for next season there's any big brother casting agents listening to this please put me on season 26 yes um so looking forward to watch this summer but i'm really hoping that season 25 is a returnee season like a battle of the best yeah second chances so i'll let them have a go

at that and then yeah catch me hopefully on 26 i've never applied this is all hypothetical it's gonna happen it feels it feels right yeah so what's the application process how do you do that i don't know is it just you go on the casting online because i wanted to apply for survivor for a period of time and i think i'm just gonna apply it's a lot of video it's a lot of like which gets me yeah remember honey when you were trying to do your circle audition and it was like 15 times he was so frustrated i did when i applied for fear factor we had like a full edited vlog with like transitions and photos popping up.

It was like a lot went into the application process, which I'm sure a lot of people just sit in front of their laptop and are like, hi, I'm Brock. I'm from Australia. I did that and I still struggled. Yeah. So that's the problem. I was like, honey, here's what you need to say. Oh, she hops, she hops in the chair and she goes, my name's Brock, goes through the hit list.

Well, it's also kind of what I do for a living. You know, when we have to go into Vanderpump interviews and we sit in the confessional, like that's just kind of what we do. We have to rehash. We got to do soundbites. Can you give the listeners and all that, even for me, like advice? Because how do you have that conversation? Because you know that you're speaking to your producer, your showrunner, and they want you to talk.

For me, I find it very hard because I know that it's not, but do you put yourself in that position or how do you get yourself to just free flow and just like reenact, not reenact, but recreate that emotion that you had during that argument, which was six weeks ago? I mean, honestly, that you had during that argument, which was six weeks ago. I mean, honestly, every situation is different. It depends on what specifically we're talking about. Sometimes you can get like re-fired up when you're sitting in there doing interviews because you're like, oh, I forgot about that.

But I mean, that's our job, you know? So it just depends. I mean, sometimes it is easy to just bring that emotion back when you're talking about something and then just i don't know just i cry almost every day and not because i'm sad but there's just like happy tears or there's there's some tears i think that come out of my i feel like i'll get over things but let's say like you know when you maybe don't like someone you kind of forget why you don't like them. And then someone brings it up and said, Hey, remember when this person did that to you? And then you're like, Oh my God, I'm not all over again. I forgot that's what they did.

So I'm sure that would be easy to bring those emotions back. That literally happened to me yesterday morning. I get tagged in a tweet of all of these past fights I've been in with a certain cast member. And I was just like, I forgot about that. I forgot about that because I just know I don't like you anymore. That's it's enough. We don't fuck with each other. We don't need to remember reasons. No, I'm not going to just rattle off.

Well, one time you did this and then you did this and you did it. It's just like we just don't like each other. End of story. We don't need a million reasons for it and i feel like all our friends can keep track of that enough at least my friends be like oh you don't like her because she did that and i'm like oh yeah i'm glad you remember that because yeah no and then just in like conversation i'm like oh yeah and then she did that and you know things just get brought back up that i forgot about because you just don't care doesn't really

matter at the end of the day. Yeah, it doesn't. Should we get into some questions? Look, I'm out here for a while. Did that answer your question? Yeah, that answered my question. Thanks for the help, honey. You know, I mean, it's been only three weeks we've been on air, and it is just craziness everywhere,

all over social media. I mean, the ratings are fantastic. I'm going to New York on Monday. I'm doing watch what happens live next week. Tomorrow night, we are doing a live podcast for the Shopify event that Lala, Christina, Kelly,

and I are doing. And if there are any spots left, I would recommend RSVP now because last I heard, I think they might be full every night. Yeah, but I'm so excited to do that this weekend. New York next week. Yeah, lots of shenanigans. How are you feeling, honey?

Week three, obviously there's a lot going on in this week's episode. A lot. A lot. It kind of sets up for the season. But how are you enjoying watching it this time around? I mean, I just have to remind myself where I'm at today, that I'm happy and content in my life today, and I can't let these past things affect me because I feel like when I watched this week's episode,

I was like, oof, okay. My heart rate, my heart rate ran up. Yeah. I was getting frustrated. My heart rate ran up and I have my Fitbit and I looked down at it. I was like, this can't be good for my, like my heart's going up. I looked down and I was at like 91 beats per minute and I'm just stressing over just watching the show and I'm just like, this is not fun.

watching the show and i'm just like this is not fun no it's just because like some people are just so vile to say that you want to see someone's world crash and burn and that you would smile is disgusting yeah and i liked how you didn't even really engage during that conversation because you know when you hear something about you that just just doesn't it's not like you even feel slightly defensive or yeah you just it's not true there's no even reason to get defensive in response so i like that i think honestly more and more it's not even being defensive about that it just feels it's just very it's not a great yeah aggressive it just sucks to hear those words like like no one one, I don't care. Like, it's just annoying. Well, I mean, just especially when you can say something mean, whatever. I can shake a lot of stuff off. But when you play into either one of my biggest insecurities or fears and, like, see, the tears are going to come right now.

Every day, I'm telling you. But, like, with just my OCD and all of that, it's like, that's my biggest fear. Every day is losing everything I have because I'm so happy. So to hear that being said is beyond hurtful. It's just like, there's so many things that are just unforgivable at this point. And I'm like, I would rather just move

in the same direction I'm in. And that is without certain people in my lane. Look, we just keep doing what you're doing. You've been doing really good, especially this year. You've really been applying yourself, giving yourself a lot of exposure to things. And honestly, honey, I see you shining. You've crushed it. And that is also with the people that are around you.

The people that hang around you, you know, you you know, not everyone has to hang out with everybody. And that's the best part about being humans, you know? Yeah. We find the people that works for you guys and that's it. And that's the best part. You've got to surround yourself with those people. And I think you are doing that, you know? And it's unfortunate that in our friend group we have these issues that we deal with.

But I think within that friend group, you still have good friends in there that support you and you guys support each other. No, a hundred percent. All right, well, let's get into the questions. Consider we already cried.

Do you want to continue talking about the show? Sure. I feel like you have to address this. What were your guys' thoughts on Raquel's Instagram posts? Messy or funny? Both. Can we put context in the behind the post? Here's the thing about myself and Raquel.

We are both unintentionally messy. I know some may refer to us as intentionally messy, but Raquel and I are two people who think with their heart and have their head in the clouds at times. Raquel just wanted a cuter picture. Look, if people are going to be talking about her and Schwartz and using this like same old photo, it was just like, here's a different photo. Like, here's some new content. You know, if you're going to keep talking about it, here's

a cute photo. You know, she thought nothing of it other than I just wanted a different photo of me and Schwartz out there. What about that TikTok sound? That's like, it's not that serious. It was never that serious. Yeah, I feel like that's, it's not that serious. It was never that serious. Yeah. I feel like that's everyone reads into everything so much. It was never that serious. No. Like, yeah, it was a little messy.

But I mean, I'm a little messy all the time. I watched it in this episode. And you're literally like, honey. I'm like, oh, I just thought he knew. It was funny, too. This question came in and said, why don't you own up to being messy instead of acting so aloof about it we'd respect it like this is for you i am messy but it is not intentional it's not malicious i just can be messy because sometimes i say things that i think the other person already knew or that i think is common sense or public knowledge and

then i just yeah i think you know what it is honey it's your ex it's how you explain things is your explanation for why you're doing things and through that explanation is the foot and mouth that comes with it and the messiness and it's just to justify how you got to your response you know it's just oh this is how i got to here and i think i mean look i think that's a big one that you've been working on yourself because if you even say that you are messy people people already know you are and you know maybe that's why I still have a job we all are messy honey I don't think I don't think it's like a negative thing to say and some I even saw some comments on social media this week they're like yes Sheena's messy you watch the show for messy you want her to stop being messy the show would be boring like let her be messy and I'm like I am messy Raquel is messy but we don't do it

maliciously we're not trying to get under anyone's skin or to have a dig or like that's just not where you guys are trying to figure out your way through this yeah whatever you call this and and and there's no handbook yeah like there's no handbook for you guys are dealing with and then and i learned that firsthand and you you know what's coming your way you just got to do your best and i actually really enjoyed the side conversation you and raquel had the other night at schwartz and sandy's on on on episode wasn't two where you called her out you're like raquel oh my god we didn't even know we were being filmed that. But that was, that was, that was,

that was what I think was so good about that conversation. Cause it really encapsulated you and Raquel's relationship where it's like, you're going to tell you, I think people think you're blindly in relationship with Raquel or you lean towards Raquel, but you do keep her in check. You're the bigger sister. And that,

that, that, that scene was you guys with that, with that relationship. And I saw that and I was like, I'm glad that they got that guys with that relationship. And I saw that and I was like, I'm glad that they got that because it got you. Look, how are you? Did you break up?

Did you cut things off with Peter? Yes. Okay. Oh, he's getting me a drink. Look out. But that's what happened. That night, you know, we got in, we were just enjoying the party.

Like the only scene quote unquote that I had was with Schwartz. Other than that, we were just enjoying the party. So only scene quote unquote that i had was with schwartz other than that we were just enjoying the party yeah so then i watched last week's episode back and i was like oh shit they caught that moment of me and raquel i had no idea obviously we're mic'd there's cameras everywhere yeah but unless it's like okay pull schwartz for a chat you know like yeah you know what you have to do so when i saw that i was like that was a cute just very organic i think it adds adds to the season 10 that it's coming out to be. Yeah. Because, you know, the show, Jeremiah and everyone in the production have done a good job of capturing these better moments, which is your guys' friendships, which has been on camera for over 10 years.

I know. You know, show those relationships and you're going to see them this season, which is great. Yeah. Well, yeah, obviously everyone this season is seeing a of you in Schwartz and you guys are having a lot of scenes together yeah did you really need him for a storyline this person asks did I first of all I don't think any of us necessarily need any of us for a storyline we have our own lives I was married this exactly I'm like I was getting married planning a wedding I'm a new mom I have different dynamics in this friend group with you know Lala and I are the closest we've ever

actually been and then we still have you know Ariana's one of my best friends Raquel's one of my best friends I got the Toms and then James and I have some issues but like we still love each other and I just feel like so no I don't think I needed to use Schwartz for a storyline because the story is all of us together you know it's a group of friends and let's be real there have been storylines of like staying home building Legos on this show so I don't think a friendship that's blossoming and someone supporting their friend going through a divorce is like oh she needed that yeah and and i feel like they'll see this one you're supporting two friendships schwartz and also arakal because raquel's going through something completely different apart from you trying to set them up and it just comes across

as you try to set them up and more in that environment you know and also to like piggyback off that it wasn't that i was actively for months and months trying to set up schwartz and raquel there was a conversation in march i then came back from vegas i said to raquel hey just so you, a blessing was given if you choose to pursue that. That was it. Then they didn't even see each other until my birthday, which also I want to say I didn't invite anyone to my

birthday. Remember, I posted on my close friends. What do we do for your birthday? We just went to Sir for dinner and Tom Tom because I did Lala's live podcast on my birthday in Atlanta. So that night we had Brock's family in town. We were just doing a family dinner at Sir and then going to TomTom. Tom, Ariana came to dinner with us because they're obviously very close with, you know,

both of our families. And Raquel at the time was living with us. So I told Raquel to come to dinner and that was it. And then Schwartz texted me and was like I don't think I'm gonna be able to like make it to Tom Tom but like blah blah blah I wanted to see you for your birthday I was like you know whatever just come by sir it was not even and I see how it looks but it wasn't like I was trying to invite Tom Ariana Schwartz and Raquel only to my dinner I didn't invite Brittany to my dinner I didn't invite Kristen to my dinner I didn't invite Jamie

you know one of my best friends and bridesmaids to my dinner it was i posted on close friends and said if you're in la 9 p.m tom tom yeah and everyone on the show is in my close friends it was not a personal attack yeah just like oh whatever whatever what's up next what's the next question well i feel like just to sum it up is there anything that you would have changed about that or about this new season at all i think i maybe just wouldn't have even suggested the schwartz and raquel thing again you know it was already at my birthday raquel thought schwartz was looking cute and she's like oh i kind of want to make out with him and i was like oh my god you should yeah so you so you wish you were if you had a regret it would be like leave it at that i think just put it on the table and leave it alone yeah at my birthday okay they didn't make

out that night leave it alone instead of like but here's the thing about the podcast honey you ask about 30 questions and they have so many they give you they'll they'll yeah so it's listen to the podcast how about that let's go back and listen to the podcast where I asked all of the questions that all of you guys wanted to hear the answers to. Yeah, I like that. And that's one thing. I will never regret doing my job, doing this podcast, and having the opportunity for the first time in five years. It is my five-year anniversary of launching Shenanigans, literally this episode. I do not regret for

the first time in five years having that showcased on the show. Like that was so exciting. Yeah. Celebrate it, honey. Yeah. Yeah. Before we get into some personal life questions, a few listeners are wondering about some of your guys' relationships with other people on the show. For example, they asked, Sheena, are you still close with James, even though you're so close with Raquel now, or is it more distant? I don't know that I would say it's more distant. It's just James is so busy with his life and DJing and traveling all the time that we just can't be as close as we used to be, you know, pre-baby, pre-pandemic and all of that.

So it's definitely changed. But I wouldn't say we're distant. I still check in. I love Allie. We got ready together for the premiere party. So I'm hoping, you know, when they're not traveling as much, that we can spend more time together. Because I really, I like them as a couple.

I just think she's a doll. So, but, you know, we'll see. I know James has some choice words about me this season, as we just saw in this week's episode. He has choice words about everyone. What did he call saw in this week's episode his choice words about everyone what did he call you you call me miss pumpkin pie pumpkin pie obviously he was upset as you saw in the episode about when raquel came on the podcast but again raquel had asked to come on the podcast she was like i have something to say i feel comfortable saying it on your show i want to put this story out there.

So I was like, okay. I feel like people think that I'm like pinpointing my friends in a vulnerable time being like, come on, come to the podcast. And I'm like coercing them and tricking them. And I'm like, I'm not this master manipulator. And this isn't a gossip podcast. Like if they looked at your podcast, you've had so many amazing people speak on so many different subjects on the pod so but like also sometimes people who are on the show

want to come on and tell their story because they have a story to tell and this is a safe place and people like rick kellen schwartz don't have their own podcast exactly yeah i feel like it's uh the the notion that you manipulate you take advantage of your friends downtime or you take advantage of your friend's downtime or you take advantage of your friend, whatever they're going through. In a vulnerable time. In a vulnerable time. And I exploit them.

You exploit them? Here's the thing. You guys exploit each other for the last 10 years on Vanderpump Rules. Everyone's exploiting each other back. And here's the worst part. I think if you don't want to exploit your divorce, you'd quit the show and deal with it. Evolution exploited your divorce, okay? Not She'd quit the show and yeah evolution exploited your divorce

okay not not sheena shea come on brock do you think your bond with ocean helped your relationship with lala it definitely made it easier that's for sure and and it's still a work in progress we are so far from where we were and every day like obviously especially now with the show re-airing when you watch last season and then they bring up to the news, it's just like a kick in the nuts. I know. And I'm still dealing with that, but it's definitely the light is seeing those two girls together. Yeah. And it kind of really reminds me, it's like, well, is the other stuff really necessary?

No. And yeah, I'm happy where we are. It's definitely a long way to get there and we're still working on it but you know we're in a good spot yeah and they're the two cutest best friends ever they really are little buddies and that's and that's the thing it's like i'm not going to keep have any animosity towards lala or anything for what happened because it takes away from that yeah and then i'm just rinsing repeating what i was yeah we've moved past, you know, there's no point in going back and rehashing it. No.

Well, speaking of Summer, let's talk about her for a little bit. Yeah. We haven't really gotten to her yet. Favorite topic. Favorite topic. How do you plan to parent your children differently than you were raised? Ooh. There was some grammar issues in this question.

That is a solid question. Or the same as you were raised. They were wondering what things you'll do different and what things you'll keep the same. Yeah. Go ahead, honey. You start. Okay. Well, Sheena and I, I had a breakdown in the kitchen the other night about this exact topic purely because of my situation of how I raised. And it wasn't for a lack of love or a lack of anything. It was just situational and environmental. And that I realized had a big impact on the amount of pressure I put on myself and my wife into parenting, you know? And so I think for me, I want to give Summer the best bumpers she has, the best like support in the world where she can

do whatever she wants, but I'm just going to have like a bumper here and a bumper here and she can bowl a strike, you know? And I'm the bumpers. And that's, that's what a parent can do. And I just hold myself to this high, high, high standard because I never had that. I never had the consistency. I never had a lot of the stuff that we're talking about when it comes to parents, when it comes to giving your kids the right tools. And that again, not against nothing against my mom or anything like that. But I put a lot of pressure on Sheena and myself for that. And I think I realized, well, I do want Summer to be a little bit like me. So she can't have all of that support. She needs to know what trials and

tribulations are for herself when she gets older. Not right now. Right now, the goal is just to give her the bumpers. And then once she gets older, we'll have to figure out how do we let her grow as her own independent person. But when she grows up, she's going to tear up this place. Yeah. I feel like I want her to have a lot of the same things that I had growing up as far as, you know, the family time and the holidays

and growing up with her cousins and his cousins and like just having as much of that time together as possible. But I also feel like what I want to just do completely different is, you know, just breaking that generational cycle with this OCD and anxiety and just all of these things that I struggle with. I don't want her to struggle with. And I just even I get so paranoid when the other day I had her puzzle and I said it on the right side of the bench was no, no other side, other side. And I was like, oh, OK, you want it on the other day I had her puzzle and I said it on the right side of the bench she was no no other side other side and I was like oh okay you want it on the other side and just

like how she's so particular with things and I'm like oh my god oh my god is this OCD or is she just organized or is she just being a kid you know but I'm so I'm so in my head about it because I'm like okay I want to notice all of these things now because if this does turn into something I want to get her the tools to work through it as young of an age as possible. You know, you can do exposure therapy with toddlers. So I just want to be very mindful of anything like that because if, and it's not like it's mom's fault or anything.

Some things are genetic, some things are environmental. But if there is a world where summer doesn't have to have these intrusive thoughts and anxieties, like that would just make my life. Yeah. I think a good one for parents out there is, is you got to remind, you got to give your kids confidence. Okay. You got to give kids and by installing confidence, it only comes from one way. You can't install it. They have to learn for themselves. That's the biggest one I'm trying to practice for summer, and you are too. And that's my parenting tip of the week.

Take it as you must, you know? But that's how I feel about it. Kids these days, a lot of them, we baby too much, and then all of a sudden we have these developing issues, and we don't want to do that. Yeah. It's a tough one. I will say it's a thing online that people have noticed.

I feel like maybe not with kids today, but like when we were all kids that boys and girls were raised so differently. And it's a thing that we need to raise boys and girls the same way. So I feel like everything you talked about, Brock, I would love if you guys ever had a son to like do that exact same thing. Cause it's like a girl shouldn't have more boundaries necessarily,

like more closer in bumpers than boys do. And a hundred percent, like especially, and that's the difference. That's the difference. Like every, every generation, every decade,

we're learning so much knowledge about what to do and what not to do. And then it's figuring out what works for your family and then figuring out the rest. But that's the best part. Cell phones are in your hand. You can follow. I get all of my parenting stuff now from social media. All of these parenting people put their stuff up there and they are parents that have gone

through the same stuff. You know, and it's really interesting and it's really fun time to be a parent, I think. Yeah. Yeah. This question asked, are you guys religious and are you going to raise like summer religious as well? Brock was raised Mormon. I was raised Catholic. We are not raising summer either way. I want her to believe in a higher power and I want her to have that faith and spirituality or whatever you want to call it, but I'm not going to raise her in an organized religion. Agree with that? Yeah. Did I look, she's, she's going to grow up and she not going to raise her in an organized religion. Agree with that? Yeah, ditto.

Look, she's going to grow up and she's going to know what she wants. I do like the aspect of going to church every now and then, just with the family and all that, but nothing to be pushed. Yeah, not out of obligation on Easter Sunday. I feel like that's what it feels like. Every now and then, I enjoy going to uh where did we go what was the where's with your cousin honey that was an amazing christmas musical production okay i know not the musical but i wouldn't mind going to their church like that like those type of christian

churches what's it called rock i don't remember it was in san marcos it's down san marcos so i'm okay with going to that just for just for a reminder they're like because if someone wants to have that belief it gives her another belief in herself you know and that's where i see religion adding to people's benefit or performance is like that is going to install confidence because they're going to have faith in themselves because somebody else is looking out for them i like that concept i follow this one influencer and she actually just posted about this the other day she has four children and she they go to church every sund Sunday but she tells her kids every every week before church to go and find a community there and like let resonate like or what did she say she was like whatever resonates

with you like go for it but if there's anything that like doesn't like you don't have to believe everything that they say and I was like I love that because I know she grew up Mormon too and I love that she's not like you have to believe everything that these people are saying every Sunday it was like if it doesn't vibe with you that's fine just take what does run with that and build a community there and I'm like I love that outlook rather than forcing yeah on a child no I completely agree with that and I feel like where I went to college like at Azusa Pacific University and we did Chapel and it was like you had music and then you had a good message and that is the type of religion that I would want Summer to grow up with once she's old enough to you know understand the word and all of that but wasn't your chapel mandatory I have an issue with that it was it was mandatory three times a week like you're paying to

go to school and go to chapel yeah if you were a commuter you didn't have to go three times a week. Like you're paying to go to school. And get a chapel. Yeah, if you were a commuter, you didn't have to go three times a week. And because I was a commuter, I didn't have to go all four years, all three days. But I would go because it was just such a sense of community. And I loved going. I loved the music. I remember one of the singers was cute.

So all the girls were like, we got to go to this chapel. Because, you know, the music was extra good. You guys got a chapel chasing good looking boys. I just think the more you force me to do it, the less I want to go. Like I went to Christian school as well and we had it every Friday. You don't have to stay, but we wanted to stay because it was fun. But if you're like, you have to go, oh, you won't catch me there.

Yeah. Personally. Yeah. So no, I definitely want her to believe in what i believe in she will believe yeah all these questions are a little random but you obviously went to catholic yeah this this person wants to know what your guys's high school boyfriends and girlfriends were like and what did you learn from them that's kind of fun i like that one who goes first i mean i would she always looks at me to go first Okay Brian Yeah Let's hear how bad

You and your high school Girlfriend were before My high school girlfriend We still talk every now and then On social media Which is pretty cool Oh my god And

Fiamma was her name What? Fiamma? Fiamma yeah Can you spell that? F-I-A-M-M-A Okay Fiamma

Amazing Amazing fan I remember She was cool. And I think my message I learned from that was like, I was like, that's the family I wanted to have. And that was a big part about being, when we were together, like her family was just so supportive of both her and her sister's ventures.

And I was just like, damn, this is what like a mother and like, it was a good role model of like what a really good relationship looks like for parents actually. So that was what I learned from that relationship and yeah, they raised a great daughter She's awesome ever since we broke up. She got a new boyfriend and they're still together Wow. Yeah, so shout out to Fiamma I'm happy for you guys. Yeah, she was like that was that was the first part That was that was what I learned from that relationship. That was cool But I also went to an all boys school So she was at an all girls school and And we met at a dance one time.

And then, yeah, I pursued her from there. My first relationship started when I was 14. I was a sophomore in high school because I had skipped a grade. So I was younger, but I was a sophomore. We started dating the summer after freshman year going into sophomore year. And then we were together until senior year of college and I think what I learned in that relationship was I settled down way too early way too young I was not happy throughout that entire relationship but I kind of stayed out of

obligation because I got a guilt trip when I wanted to go a separate way and he was like if you do that I'll do this and so I feel like I learned at a young age that you need to just do what makes you happy and not settle because you feel like that's easier or that's what you should do. I like that answer. Thanks. I didn't have a high school boyfriend,

so I can't really. No. When did you start dating? Well, in high school, I was a little bit busy i was chasing around band members yeah i mean i really shot high it was like one direction or bus literally i mean i was a little bit more realistic i won't lie you're not nile you know i obviously i was into boy bands what can i say and i mean a couple I had a crush on in high school, I did end up dating.

So it was just not the right time. Obviously, nerdy little 16-year-old. I wasn't nerdy, but like not as, you know. Not as chic and. Yeah. I mean, it was a weird time. It was a different time. It was a different time.

But no, I was successful later. It just wasn't, you know, didn't line up. I did have like a crush. I had a crush on this girl called Sonia. I was successful later. It just wasn't, you know, didn't line up. I did have like a crush. I had a crush on this girl called Sonia. I told you this. Sonia, yes. Sonia, the pig farmer's daughter. Yeah.

And so I would actually love to try and reconnect with Sonia. That's what I'm saying is on here. Sonia. We lived in, where were we at we're in gigari which is next to shepherding in melbourne in victoria on a dairy farm and then a couple of blocks down was sonia and her family's farm and she grew up on a pig farm and i was like i gotta say i was like 11 12 maybe yeah Yeah. And she was a cute little blonde. I just would love to know what she was like. Oh, a blonde.

Yeah. I had a variety. But yeah, I'd love to connect with Sonia if someone can help that. All I know is Sonia, you grew up on a pig farm in Gigari in Victoria, Australia. That's all I got. I don't even remember her last name or anything like that. You can maybe look on Instagram. A lot of people have social media these days.

It's kind of a good normal name. But you know how, I can't type in Sonia the pig farmer. Oh. That's all I got. That might be tough. Yeah, Brock, one of the questions that came in was, what state in Australia are you from? So again, we moved around a lot.

So when I moved to Australia, I was in Queensland, Brisbane. And then we moved down to Victoria, lived there for two years, and then moved back up to Queensland. Why'd you move so much? So my parents worked on dairy farms. And then when you work on a dairy farm, you're a farmhand, and the pay's not the greatest. And generally, the work's really high. And so it's either like burnout, and you'll go to somewhere else to try and get a better opportunity or a seasonal, you know,

they'll bring you in for a season. And then, so we used to move from farm to farm, which was, which is one of the things like I really enjoy and I miss farming, but I remember growing up like that. And once we were 14, maybe 13, we moved out away, we moved off the farm. My parents split. And then at that point, I just had a problem in school. I got bullied a lot.

And then I was bounced around from school to school just because I couldn't stay in one school because I had learning issues or, you know, got in trouble. Yeah. Definitely wasn't fun. And that's what I don't want my daughter to go through i want i want her to find consistency because through consistency and like a group of friends she can have memories and she can go that yeah no bullies we spoke about we should do a podcast about bullies because i'll tell you what if if and i only got bullied because i had lost my finger when i was 10 of when i was four that's such a lame reason to bully you for.

I know. But kids can, you have glasses, you get bullied. You just have to have one thing different and a kid's going to bully you because they don't. I was half white and I got bullied. It's crazy. At an all Hispanic school. It was just like, that was just the one thing they had. We need to do a podcast, honey.

Because obviously you were talking about your mental health before let's do one and we get somebody else to talk to us about finding out those going back to our younger version of ourselves because i think that would be really interesting because i do feel like through reiki work that i've done my 12 year old self still needs some healing and we're actually going to start doing emdr this week because we found out we's the 12 year old. We figured what are some of the triggers. I thought like, and this is just completely separate than what I'm working on in therapy about being a parent.

I felt like there were just so many fears I had around summer eating. And I was like, oh my God, it's because I choked as a kid. I'm worried about her choking. And so the first time we tried to do EMDR, it was like, okay, go back to that memory when you were seven and you choked. And I'm like, this is just not clicking. Like it just wasn't resonating. I felt like I was so, there was just so many other distractions that day. And I'm like, this isn't for me. Let's just do talk therapy. And then in my session last week, I was telling her about how mom got all of these home videos of us and watching them back and just seeing how absolutely miserable I was at

this point in my life it was so hard to watch back and I was telling my therapist and she's like oh my god Sheena this is where the EMDR comes in like these are the ones that you need to go but you have to go back and then I'm like and then I feel like this season is taking me back to just getting bullied and people wishing bad things upon me, who is a good person who doesn't do things with ill intent, who tries to just do the right thing and sometimes fucks up. I'm not perfect, but I feel like a lot of things recently have taken me back to that place. And that's the next thing I want to start working on in therapy because I'm clearly not OK. Yeah, it's funny that that keeps coming up. You truly look miserable in all of those home videos. And I know I broke my heart. We could probably pop some up. Yeah, we could pop that up here. But I don't know how mom didn't recognize that because

I feel like you would recognize that in summer. I mean, I get it's not like a dramatic change. Like it's not like you maybe changed overnight. It was probably like a slow thing, but I don't know. I can't recognize that. And even in like two or three different videos, mom is like on the video and she pans over and she's like, there's Sheena's happy and smiling again. And I'm like, obviously you're being sarcastic. It's like I was never smiling. She's like, I don't know. Maybe I just thought you were going through puberty or just had an attitude. You know, I was 12 years old. Yeah. So it's like I get that. And also she had you, you know, she had a new baby and I didn't want to ever burden her with any of the stuff. She had a miscarriage. I couldn't tell her that. You know what, mom, when I go to school, I'm actually worried that I might get killed on the way home. Like these girls were so vicious. Do you think you weren't comfortable enough to tell her that? Or you think you just didn't want to burden her?

Like, were you comfortable enough? Yeah. Oh, I could have told mom anything. Like she was my best friend. She still is. I've always felt comfortable telling her absolutely anything. But I didn't want to burden her with that. I felt like from such a young age that I could just handle it all on my own.

Same as like now it's like I feel like I could just take on so much. But then sometimes you just break. And at the time, I'm like 12 years old. I'm like, I got this. I don't need to bother mom with it. But literally, up until these videos that mom showed us recently like came out, I forgot certain things. And that's why I do want to do emdr because

i actually forgot until two weeks ago i was telling brock i'm like i was literally worried for my life like these girls i thought after school might jump me and kill me yeah and at the time i just i blocked that out completely obviously that was a horrible thing but then i told him i was like oh my god i'm like that's why i couldn't tell my mom like she already lost a baby i can't be like oh you might lose me too yeah so yeah it's also crazy like watching those videos back it's not i don't think anything's about looks necessarily but you were so pretty like you never had an awkward phase and i think that's probably not that that's a reason to bully someone but I see a lot of our cousins on these videos and them going through the awkward

stages at the same age as you and I'm like Sheena didn't have an awkward stage no wonder why these girls were mad like my awkward stage was plucking out all of my eyebrows to fit in but they didn't even look that bad like I couldn't look at what do you mean it didn't look that popping up right here I know but like the rest

of her face looked I was distracted like there's other things to look right here? No, I know. But like the rest of her face looked, I was distracted. Like there's other things to look at. It's not like I'm just drawn to the eyebrows. But have you talked to any of those girls since? But some of those girls from high school have like since DM me in the recent years and like apologized for how they acted. So have any of those people from middle school like ever reached out again? Not and apologized.

I know there's some who follow me i know i'm friends with some on facebook but i've never actually gotten an apology because i'm like i don't think they realize what they did though i don't i don't think that's the thing about young kids that are boys they were like these were my my friends it was my own friend group i know that literally at a sleepover no no aren't your friends? No, no. But at the time, that was just, that was my group. And I remember being at a sleepover and they said if I fell asleep, they were going to chop all my hair off. That's amazing.

I had the same friend group. I had the same friend group. But then this time I woke up to my eyebrow shaved off. And then the rest of the night. I'm like, not that that's a boy thing, but I can't believe a boy actually went through with it. Yeah, shaved my eyebrow off. And the rest of the night I slept underneath the dining room table with the chairs around me because I was so scared that they were going to shave my eyebrow off.

Yeah. And then another time, I went to their house for a sleepover. And when I was younger, I had a temper. And I used to always just get upset or worked up really quickly. And so I remember something happened and they're like, they put like itching powder in my sleeping bag and then I was itching and I cried and they made fun of me crying. And then I got angry,

cried and I ended up walking out of the house and gone walking home. And, but the best feeling was like, fast forward, I grow up, I go to Australia and I ended up always, I always grew up the school i first moved to when i came over to australia we went to brisbane right when i said and then we moved to

victoria i went back up to brisbane and where we lived and so i grew up to an hour and a half from where we first went to school so i still had those connections and it was the best feeling after i signed a professional rugby contract went to france and played there for two years and i like fluffed up my confidence, went back and I know we're all doing the same dumb stuff on the Gold Coast. And here's me. And I walk in and I, after doing,

I'll get a bottle. And then one of the servers was one of the girls that was an asshole to me. So that was, I was like, you're like, no tip. So back then, back then I kind of,

it was Australia. We don't tip. No, it was, it was, those are, I kind of, it was Australia. We don't tip. Oh, yeah. She wasn't going to get tipped regardless. No, it was, those are when I get those moments back. But I don't think I'm ever going to get an apology from those guys because they don't know what they did. And I don't think they understand the impact that it has on kids. Yeah, even this weekend in Palm Springs, Lala came up to me and gave me a hug and just apologized yet again.

She's like, I'm so sorry if I've ever, you know, said things to take you back to that 12-year-old place. And I'm like, you have. We've moved past it. We hugged it out. But it's like, I appreciate that she still apologizes for those things that she knows still affect me. And that's why I'm like, we're so, so good in our friendship.

But I still feel like I'm like, ugh, but you've hurt me. So it's just still like repairing that. But we're working in the right direction. So I appreciate when people who are still in my life do acknowledge that and have apologized. Yeah, that's cool. No one from junior high has. Yeah, I was gonna say you guys talking about these friends that you had in middle school and high school, something that really worked for me and that I want to encourage to like people listening who are looking to make new friends, whether you're still in school or you're older. I think it's so important to make friends that don't just live around you. Like just because you guys grew up in the same area, you go to the same school,

that doesn't mean you have anything in common. And that's something that I learned really quickly. I'm still friends with a couple people I was friends with from high school. And those are the people I actually connected with. But for most part i found community and friendship in places that were farther away from me i found it online and those are now my real life friends and those are the people that i know i'll be friends with forever and they weren't just my friends because oh they live two blocks away and we go to the same school like yeah it's like yeah he was my neighbor that put it in powder in my bag. Yeah, that's not your friend. That's your neighbor. I understand. But I think like the longevity of my friendships are people that I met on Twitter because we had so much in common 10 years ago.

And I feel like I have like when I think of my friends, like I don't think except a few of them. I see like my school friends. It's like those are people I went to school with. And then I have my friends. Like I don't even. They're not even friends to me. That's so cool.

That's a highlight about like technology and having those aspects I had I had one mile square roads and a pig farmer down the street you know what I mean yeah no no there's a lot more we have a lot more resources now I couldn't have done this any sooner than that especially without Twitter but I think people have a hard time making new friends in today's day and age like especially when they move to new cities it's like besides people that you work with i think work friends are the equivalent to school friends they're just people that you work with so a lot of people have trouble like finding new friends and i think it's more important to find people that you have things in common with than that are just close in proximity because i think those people aren't good friends they're

just nearby yeah no completely the one friend i had in junior high went to a different junior high. So it was like, that was like my one real friend. We lived in the same apartment complex, but I would go to school and just get hell and then come home and tell her everything. And it was like, for high school, we're going to the same high school together. Like, cause then you'll have my back. And then mom was like, psych, you're going to private school. But thank God, Bishop Amantont i swear that like saved my life

yeah okay let me find another question yeah and i'm down to do a bully podcast because you know what i despise bullies yeah despise them despise it because they don't know the impact they actually have and obviously i grew up and and i was in the class of the kids that had learning disabilities and I wasn't as, I was only suffering four fingers and a cup and, and ADHD. And you know, that's about it. And some of these kids actually had real debilitating issues and yeah, kids are assholes. And that was one of,

I got kicked out of, I got suspended from a school cause I beat up a bully because he made big, he's a hundred percent valid deserved it and then matthew is was always my friend after school when i said did that he's like brock and he's this big guy and uh he just he couldn't handle people touching him and he was just touching him and touching was like stop touching him bro they touched him and i just dropped this kid oh it felt so good and i got suspended yeah i saw a really cute pic on twitter it was looked like it was on a college campus and there were these

two really buff guys that set up like a table with a poster sign and it said do you feel unsafe walking like to your dorm or from class to class like let us know

and we'll walk with you and I'm like I love these two bros doing good like I think that was awesome and I'm sure a lot of people like feel that way

and would never think to like ask for someone to walk with them that's cool that's cool that's happening that's great yeah I hope people took them up on that offer And I'm sure a lot of people feel that way and would never think to ask for someone to walk with them. That's cool that that's happening. That's great. Yeah. I hope people took them up on that offer.

Yeah, for sure. Okay. So we're just talking about your guys' past. We're talking about bullies. Yeah, that's rapid fire. Like next five minutes of rapid fire questions. Okay. Well, I don't know if this is a rapid quick answer.

We're just quick answer. We're just quick answer. No jibber-jabber. You know, this girl wants to know tips to heal from a breakup. Oh. You know, this girl wants to know tips to heal from a breakup. I honestly think time and space apart from that person is the best way to heal. I understand sometimes circumstances, sharing animals, a job, a friend group can not make that as easy, but as much time and space apart from that person initially, I think is so important to heal.

And then personal time with yourself. You just came out of a relationship. So find out what you didn't like about that relationship and what you want out of a relationship and just work on yourself because then if you just, that's it, that's all I got for that one. Brock, share some tips and tricks for staying healthy while on vacay. It's an absolute nightmare always. But here's the thing. If you, and I fall off and on, but the easiest way is just to pay attention to what you're eating when you're on holiday. That's it.

Because the box of cookies that Jack brings over. Pay attention to what? What does that mean? Just don't go overboard. You can have the cake here. You can have the dessert. But don't have two desserts. Don't have the dessert after breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Wait, can we talk about the cheesecake from the other night because this is a prime example why it's so hard okay it was funny we were in palm springs we were ordering on uber eats and i passed my phone around for everyone to order and i just wanted to like re go over confirm the order yeah i wanted to go over the order and i was okay sis you got the caprese pasta i got the pesto pasta brock you got the ravioli and who got the cheesecake call me out and i was like and i put it in there and i was just like you're right i don't need the cheesecake delete it and that's the hardest thing like honestly on vacation is saying no to that but what happened this night is once I said no to the cheesecake, generally I'm fine because I said no, it's not coming into the house.

If I'm at the shopping center, we're going grocery shopping, I say no, it doesn't come home, I'm good. But if I know that there's something like that in the house. You don't want to let it get a little waste. In my head, it's just like, you're not winning this. So eight Reese's cups later. And Girl Scout cookies. They were thin Reese's cups. Thought're not winning this. So eight Reese's cups later. And Girl Scout cookies. They were thin Reese's cups.

Thought they might be helpful. A bit skinny. Yeah, but they didn't help because I had like eight of them while we were playing Clue. But, you know, diet is hard. It really is. It really, really is. So when you're traveling, just try and not do that. Try and eat plenty of fruit.

Try and eat plenty of vegetables and try and eat protein. Drink a lot of water. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. And then, you know, you can have the dessert. That's not a problem.

But just try and keep it clean. Stop. The biggest problem we have in nutrition, and I'm not an expert. Okay. Go see your nutritionist for this. But that pyramid we get taught in school. Yeah. And at the bottom, it's like, what's at the bottom of that pyramid we get taught in school yeah and at the

bottom it's like what's at the bottom of that pyramid i don't remember wheat and breads that's at the bottom that's at the bottom like for you need the most stuff yes oh i i do that for sure flip it upside down minus the sugars but the fruits the veggies and the meats that's what you eat you don't eat the breads the grains because the grains aren't even grains anymore especially in america it's genetically modified so you're not actually getting all the nutrients of these whole wheat grains that they say they have their whole wheat genetically modified which is just wheat with no nutritional in it but that's how the people got sick in the last of us anyways yeah exactly right last of us see there's a whole pandemic on it

anyone who watches they'll understand. But no, I think when you're traveling, the biggest plus is be aware of what you're eating. Don't eat dessert. Don't eat dessert all the time. And ask for sauce on the side. Sauce on the side will save you. You don't have to be the asshole and be like,

can I get no butter? I do that. He does that sometimes. Butter on what? No butter on anything. If they cook a steak they cook with butter there's no need for it because the steak has plenty of fat and there's the need for the flavor well there you go so yeah limit the butter sauce on the side with the salads and everything you eat and then just like don't go ham that's all you got to do okay no wheat stop eating yeah shitty grains yeah i

wouldn't even know what wheat's in. So I guess I should read it. Everything. Wheat's in everything. Wait, is that when you're allergic to gluten? It's wheat? Yeah. It's a part of the wheat.

Tea. Tea. Brock, how are things with homebody going? Oh my God. It is such a battle. It really is because you're trying to start something and we've put a lot of time into it, but you got to figure out what makes sense.

Right now, actually, though, we've really excited. We've pivoted a little bit to we're offering online programming. So if anybody has nutritional issues or they want to work on a program, we're now coaching people, one-on-one coaching with our Homebody coaches that are working with talent or just our clients that come to Homebody. And we're doing personal one-on-one programming, which is great. It's not the vision I had for Homebody, which is the full live streaming aspect. We have that there. Now we've got to build a community. So if you guys, anybody listening is interested in doing nutrition or any programming, online coaching, we will

design your custom programming for you. We call and check in. The difference between our programming is how many times we check in. And it's working really well. We got Joseph from Big Brother. He's actually coming on and we're going to manage his clients. So a lot of the time we're going to be like a white glove service for top end talent that have a following, that want to follow fitness,

but aren't qualified in nutrition or training. And we're going to train their clients for them. And then throughout that experience, hopefully have in-person events and then build these communities up with our talent. So it's obviously not a rocket ship to space. We're not over the moon, but I think we're finding our niche and we're just going to stick to it and keep working on it i'm just going to say joseph must be so busy he's what a trainer he's a lawyer i heard he just got confirmed for doing next season of the challenge how does he have time for his queen miss taylor hale which we need to have which we already know yes but she is already she's already doing so much as well. So it's two peas in a pod. I know, I love them. Honestly, they're both thriving.

I can't wait to meet the both of them. Well, speaking of Big Brother, I feel like we should get to this murder mystery night. Yeah. Yeah, let's tear it up. Yeah? All right. So thank you guys so much for listening.

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