Scheananigans with Scheana Shay - Valley Girls

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

This week, Scheana is sipping and spilling some tea in the studio with Janet & Michelle from “The Valley”: the real story behind Michelle sharing sexy photos with a celebrity, Jesse’s reaction to seeing her new boyfriend in a photo with their daughter, Brittany legitimately being sick from Jax, and does Michelle regret saying that Kristen shouldn’t procreate? Plus, Zack’s miscarriage comment to Janet is addressed. Tune in to find out!  Follow us: @scheana @scheananigans Guests: @janetelizabethx @michelle.saniei The video version of this episode will be available on Scheana’s YouTube page on Friday, May 24th.Episode Sponsors:Need to find the perfect gift? Don't panic. Try Gift Mode on Etsy now.Go to Quince.com/honey for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Taking control of your heath starts here. Go to nurx.com/GOODASGOLD to get started.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. From Vanderpump Rules to motherhood and everywhere in between, it's time to catch up with Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now here's your host, Sheena Shea. This is Shenanigans. And now, here's your host, Sheena Shea. I love being there when you do stuff you've never done before and like film an entire season of reality TV. Oh my god. What's the drama gonna be guys? Oh yeah you asked me that right before we started filming. Oh yeah I had no idea. I was like oh just wait. We're right. All right welcome back to Shenanigans everyone. week, I'm joined by two of my favorite Valley Girls. I've been wanting to do a Valley Girls podcast. Today, we are doing it. I've

got my girl, Janet, and the beautiful realtor, Michelle. Woo! Hi! Welcome, Michelle. Your first ever podcast you've done? No, she did Brittany's. I did Brittany's twice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

First time with Sheena. Yay! And in a studio. And in a studio. With the headphones on. I'm starting to get nervous. Oh, wait, wait. Brittany's was Oh yeah yeah yeah. First time with Sheena. Yay. And in a studio. And in a studio. With the headphones on. I'm starting to get nervous. Oh wait wait Brittany's just at home? Yes. Oh okay. Very casual so this is a little more formal. A little different. We've got the desk, we've got the tea that we're gonna sip and spill, cameras. I love it. Are you ready? Yeah let's do it. So if you heard a little bit before we started this intro, Michelle is very new to reality TV as a whole. Doesn't watch it, never been a part of it.

And when the season started, she's like, so what's the drama going to be? I had no idea. And I did a little more research beforehand because I just went into it and just like was quiet trying to figure it out. And Jesse was the opposite he was a planner he had an intention every time of how he was going to go into a situation so how are you feeling now with the drama it's a lot more than I thought I think everybody has their own story it's crazy to re-watch it all but yeah it's a lot It's been difficult. I feel like you really stepped out of your comfort zone because you are a very peaceful, calm, kind person.

And I feel like being thrown into this, it was like, you know, you don't really feel like have confrontations with people like this. Never. I never fight with people. So I just think that it was a completely different type of atmosphere that I wasn't used to. No, it's a lot. And then it's one thing to live it and experience it. It's a whole other layer to watch it back, get everyone else's perspectives.

And then on top of that, have the whole world commenting what they think. Exactly. I didn't realize that they were going to do that. And I thought that I was going to be portrayed to really show how I was struggling. But I think I kept that very internal. So it's kind of hard to understand me in some of the episodes. or whatever, I feel like you really did share a lot of what you were going through and it was relatable. Like I've been divorced, you've been divorced, like that kind of like I'll be divorced by the end of the year. Yeah. But the separating and making those decisions and like working on your marriage, like I really do feel like you guys put everything into it. Like you did all the things you're supposed to do. Yeah. And I think you guys shared it and were as honest as you can and I

think actually in season two people will see maybe how much you were struggling this season because now when I see you you're so light and bright and happy and like just have a totally different aura and vibe about yourself and I'm like I didn't realize until I we were like hanging out again more recently that like how the real me yeah yeah I'm a happy person watching it back I'm like, I didn't realize until we were like hanging out again more recently that like how the real me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a happy person. And watching it back, I'm like, oh, like this isn't this isn't Michelle or Michelle I know now. Totally. We have a lot of that we're going to get into. But first, how are we? How was our weekends?

I saw that y'all went to church with Nia and Dani. I definitely she's invited me so many times and we're always out of town. But I want to do that in summer. How was our weekends? I saw that y'all went to church with Nia and Danny. She's invited me so many times and we're always out of town, but I want to do that and bring Summer. Yeah. So Nia has been going, Danny and Nia, for a long time to that church in Hollywood. And my boyfriend, Aaron, actually always went. So he started inviting me and it was just a coincidence that Nia was there. So we kind of began a little ritual and keep inviting

whoever wants to come on Sunday. So it's like you came last weekend and then the weekend before was Jasmine and Brittany. So it's kind of cool to have the Valley cast and our friends come to church with us. I love that. That was the first time I'd been in a church in years. Like I'm not a super like organized religion person, religious person. I'm like, I would consider myself like, I don't know, not spiritual either, but just. No, I get that.

I don't know. Like I'd like to think I have good morals. Yeah. But that was the first time and I, it was really beautiful. And like, I think the sermon was a lot about forgiveness and like Michelle and I kept kind of like looking at each other. I was like, is this a literal sign from God?

Right. It was a perfect message. And I think it's what I needed. Yeah. And it was interesting just that it was like the group that was there. It was for Nia and Daniel's twins. It's like, I think like a modern day baptism. They dedicate them to God and then they kind of have a choice when they're older to get baptized and do confirmation. I think it's like we want to, I don't know, dedicate you to our beliefs, but you kind of get to choose. I like that. I was raised Catholic. And so that was, you know, obviously very structured and organized. And I knew I did not want to raise my daughter that way. But the couple of times I've gone down to San Diego to do EMDR therapy

while I'm in therapy because she can only do it in person on Sundays, Brock will take her to church with my cousins. And he says that Summer has just had the best time, but I haven't been able

to go with her yet. So then when I saw all of you girls there, I'm like, okay, we need to do this. She loves the music. And they get to hang out together. So Isabella and Asher

were together. Oh, I love that. Yeah, you get to send them also for like an hour. Yeah, it's like one hour. Exactly. I needed a little break. Yeah. Like good people and good kids.

Yeah, totally. So I saw the photo where you're all there with your partners and Erin was holding Isabella. Yeah. So with something like that, how is Jessie and how would it be if it were the other way around where you see Jessie's girlfriend holding Isabella? Well, it wasn't intentional. Actually, originally, the girls wanted to take a picture with all our kids. And then Danny and Jason wanted to take a picture and Isabella saw. So she wanted to be included.

So she said, Erin, let's take a picture. She like ran up. She ran up and wanted to be part of it. So of course. So it wasn't like intentional or it was just like in the moment, let's take a picture.

If you don't tell Isabella, no. No, of course not. Little princess. Yeah. So I actually didn't repost it because I wasn't sure even though I thought

it was adorable. But I wanted to, you know, I haven't had specific talks with Jessie and we're still trying to navigate and yeah we're constantly getting mad at each other like you shouldn't do that and so it's just a process and we haven't figured that out yet but other people did post it and everybody saw we didn't repost it but Jesse he didn't reach out to me immediately we were kind

of going back and forth about something else that I was angry about. And then he kind of decided to throw that in there and say that he was not happy about it and he wouldn't do the same, even though he does. So, again, it's hard. It's a little bit of a double standard of, yeah, I do this, but you can't do that. And so trying to navigate that has been a little complicated. I can only imagine. I mean, we both got divorced when we didn't have a child. So that adds an extremely different layer that is so tough. But I think, you know, with time, you guys are obviously going to figure it out. And as long as you're both happy and Isabella

sees that both of her parents are happy, that's what matters. She's thriving. And I really mean that because I didn't realize that she was paying attention. Even if she was in the other room, she could hear us just not happy and yelling. And the fact that we have two different homes, like she has progressed a lot. And she thinks she's like excited. She's like, I have two houses now. Like she's like thinks that she's like it's like cool to her she's like oh i had one before and now i have two right no kids do like that that's how summer is or she's like i have two pools i have palm springs and then she

just calls the valley house her new big house oh yeah her new big house it was so cute we were walking upstairs a couple weeks ago and she goes mom, Mom, thanks for buying me this house. And I go, oh, you're welcome, honey. And she goes, it's just so big. It's like, you're welcome. Whenever she has people over, she wants to give it to her. And she goes, so I have two rooms. And she goes and shows her playroom and her bedroom. Hard work pays off.

You know? Yeah. That's what I said. So I actually want to get into a little bit more about you and Erin. I know you did an Instagram live recently where you guys discussed how you met. And I'm sure you probably talked about it on Brittany's podcast. But for all the shenanigans listeners out there, just tell us about how you guys met and reconnected and all of that. Yeah. So I love to walk every day and either walk or

hike. And we both live very near each other. And there's a local coffee shop that everybody goes to. So one day I had my headphones on, was grabbing a coffee, and Isabella was in the stroller, walked in. And apparently they, Isabella and Aaron, had a moment. And they were just like waving at each other from far away. She's cute. I mean, I don't know. She's hilarious. She picked him and they w waving at each other from far away. She's cute. I mean, I don't know. She's hilarious.

She picked him and they waved at each other and I actually didn't even notice him, pay attention. And I left. And I think a week later I came back in and then he said that he was like trying to scoot over. There was like a family in between us. And then I was just grabbing a coffee and he just kind of started talking to me

and we just kind of clicked right away. And we kept seeing each other randomly. And we would just like wave to each other and have very small talk like, hi, how are you? So once Jesse and I separated, we ran into each other at Runyon, said hello. And then I just kind of said, interesting story. And I kind of told him that we separated and we weren't together. And he's like, funny, I just broke up. Me and my girlfriend broke up. And so, yeah, timing was perfect. And he's like, hey, you want to go out for lunch right now? And I'm like, sure.

An impromptu lunch date. I don't know if I've heard this story. That's really cute. Yeah, that is cute. We went for Mexican and had a margarita and it was a lot of fun. Nice. Sometimes the universe does that where I feel like timing wise, it just like puts two people in the right place at the right time. And yeah, timing's everything with relationships. No, totally. So how has it been for you dating, you know, while going through a separation? For me, it's been helpful because I was already alone for so long. Yes, I was married.

But the reality is I felt very alone in mentally, sexually, physically, everything you can think of. And so although a lot of people might think that I just jumped into a relationship, it wasn't that. I was like ready for it. You were checked out for a while. I was. So it was good. And I went on a couple of dates with a couple of different guys. And Aaron and I just clicked so well that I was like,

I don't need to date other guys. I want to date just you. You guys are like magnets together. It's Sheena's birthday. Like every time I looked over at you guys, it was just like he would have his hand on your shoulder or like be like touching your back or everything I ever wanted locked into each other's eyes. And I was just like, oh like oh my gosh like like you guys are like giving me butterflies yeah looking at you guys and even just the way she smiles like she's smiling right now and even on the Instagram live I was watching and people were commenting like look at this smile we don't see this smile in all of season one we see where you're like Jesse touches you and you're like please don't do that yeah I didn't I didn't realize how trapped and sad and i was just going through so much and it was just hard yeah and i'm

sure that's hard to watch back seeing yourself in such a different place but at least knowing where you're at now and seeing how happy you are you can reflect on you know that was then this is now and absolutely the smile says it all probably, too, to kind of like be able to have that chapter like where you can look back and just be like, yeah, this wasn't the thing for me. Exactly. Yeah. With dating someone new and same for Jesse, did you guys set ground rules or things where it's like, you know, don't do this. Make sure you do this when Isabella's around. Yes and no.

We are kind of handling day by day yeah originally we had some basic rules like we're not introducing anybody to Isabella for a long time until it's serious and then we will let each other know and then if you want to meet that partner and then eventually Isabella and then Jesse kind of did the opposite of that and didn't listen to his own advice and rules and he immediately introduced Isabella to who he was dating and I originally was very upset because that was not what we talked about and so it just kind of fast-tracked everything because I felt like okay I'm dating one person and it's serious. So that's why I felt that it was okay to introduce Isabella to him. Yeah. Yeah. But it's been hard,

but no, it's just, I mean, we can only imagine. We do texts back and forth. Like I didn't like this. I didn't like this. Yeah. You guys are working through it and just going to take time before everything settles out. But I feel like you guys are, I know you guys both love Isabella so much and it's very clear. Like goal is like I think you've said this you know publicly too but like you want to be friends one day or like friendly and I think you guys will get there you just have to work out all the kinks first yeah and even celebrating her birthday together you know like having that was a big moment for us people there yeah yeah and Isabella probably loved that she really did did. Yeah. You guys will

figure it out. You know, time. Yeah. Time heals all. That it does. Okay. We're going to take a quick little break and then we'll be right back with a fun game of Valley Superlatives. Hey, Shenanigans listeners. I'm here to tell you there's no reason to panic the next time you're searching for the perfect gift. Now you can use gift mode on Etsy. So let me tell you about this. Okay. Gift mode on Etsy takes the stress out of gifting so you can find the perfect item for anyone and any occasion. It's so easy. I swear summer could do it. You just tap or click gift mode on your Etsy app or go to Etsy.com. You answer a few short questions about like who you're shopping for, what they like, and gift mode. Get this. They instantly give you curated gift ideas based on hundreds of personas.

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don't panic. Try gift mode on Etsy now. All right. So we have a lot to cover this week. We had the VPR reunion, part two, the baby moon from hell for Jasmine, and everything else going on outside of these shows. But first, I wanted to see, I've done this with Janet before, how you would rate some of your castmates from the Valley with a game of superlatives. So I also want to see if any of your answers have changed now that we're a little deeper into the season. So you've done this. Did we do the exact same ones?

I think so. Yeah. Okay. Who's the most punctual? Me. Love that. Who has the biggest ego? Jessie.

Most improved from beginning of the season to end? I think Mia. Okay. With the postpartum. Yeah. Biggest gossip. Don't look at me. Kristen, Zach, and Janet. That's okay. I admit it.

Hey, I love the goss. I love when you call me and you're like, hey, gotta tell you something. I was like, ooh, tea. But note the topics. That's all I'll say. Note the topicsoss. I love when you call me and you're like, hey, got to tell you something. I was like, ooh, tea. But note the topics. That's all I'll say. Note the topics of what I'm gossiping about versus other people. Yeah, exactly. Pay attention, people.

Best hostess. Brittany. Best or worst cook? I'm definitely the worst cook helper in anything. Janet, best cook. Thanks. Yeah. We're going to get into more of that from Big Bear.

Peacemaker. Brittany and Nia. Pot stirrer. Jax and Jessie. Yeah. Who has the most enviable wardrobe? Me? I was going to say you.

Can I say me? Yeah. You have the best. If I could raid someone's closet, it would be yours. Just nothing would fit me. I don't have a big closet, but whatever. I buy what I love. Yeah. You have some good designers, too.

And not like the, I don't know, not like the labels everywhere, but like, I'll be like, oh my gosh, who makes that dress? And you'll say a designer. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And it doesn't even say it all over it. Just a sophisticated. Yeah. Very sophisticated. Yeah, we love sophisticated. Best glam squad. Maybe Britney.

Yeah. Britney's got one everybody's always stealing hers. Yeah. Well because okay so after Jared was no longer doing makeup Jared referred all of us to Anais. And so now she does a lot of our makeup because she's also incredible. But thankfully, it usually works with scheduling. But it's like, I know if Brittany needs her, she was technically yours first. I have Mariana, but I stole her from Rachel. Yeah. That's why I won't give anybody my nanny information. Yeah.

No, that's the thing. When you find somebody good, you don't want to share them. I know. That's been a thing in this group, too. Yeah. No, that's the thing. When you find somebody good, you don't want to share them. I know. That's been a thing in this group, too. Anyway. Most likely to hang out with a famous Hollywood director.

Hmm. I wonder who. Maybe. No, I'm hanging out with a more famous Hollywood director and it's skirted by. Yeah, I just signed

too many NDAs for it. Oh, wait. Oh, these guys will ask you skirted by. Yeah, I just signed too many NDAs for it. Oh, wait. Oh, you can ask me later about that. Yeah. Okay, best and worst confessional looks of the season. Looks in terms of appearance? Just like outfits or just like, you know, hairstyles or whatever. Is there any one of your own or someone else's that was your favorite?

Not favorite. Luke's. was your favorite? Not favorite? Luke's. Not my favorite. Also, Zach's because he couldn't get his hair cut and that whole thing, I think. Yeah, definitely. I like Britney in the denim. Me too. With the straight hair. Me too.

That's one of my favorite interview looks she's ever had. And I really like yours when your hair is back with the white dress. Oh, yeah. I liked that one. Yeah, that was a good look. That was a good one. Most likely to leave and never come back.

Oh, that's a hard one. See, because I feel like this answer changed from when we did it. Yeah. Leave the show? Yeah. I think everybody has their moment. Yeah, we all have our moments. Maybe Danny?

Yeah. I don't know. moment. Yeah, we all have our moments. Maybe Danny? Yeah. I don't know. Okay. Stay tuned. Who is the MVP of the season? Hmm. I feel like everybody deserves some credit. Jason always.

Maybe Jason. Yeah. He voices opinion without getting into any trouble, which is also how he does in life. He's really good at that. I know. No, he is. He's fair.

He's so fair to everybody yeah who is the number one guy in the group none of them jason okay jason yeah jason's the sweetest yeah no i agree but speaking of the guys in the group So my next question, it might be a little shallow emphasis on little and shallow. So we're just going to rip the bandaid off here and throw it right out there. Do either of you know the definition of Napoleon complex? I actually don't. Okay. So for those who aren't caught up on the valley, there's a moment this last episode where the guys are out fishing and Danny claims to have Napoleon Complex, but uses it completely incorrectly. And Jason explains what it is. So for Michelle, I'll tell you.

So the Napoleon Complex is also known as Napoleon Syndrome. It's a purported condition normally attributed to people of short stature with overly aggressive or domineering social behavior. It implies that such behavior is to compensate for the subject's physical or social shortcomings. I think it came from Napoleon, who was a conquistador. Yeah, like way back in the day. And he took over so much land.

People said it's because he was so short he had to take over the most land to make up for the fact. You're like overcompensating, you know, like if you have a small dick and then you act like you have big dick energy. It's like. Got it. So when he said it, he's like, you know, I only date girls who are like 5'3", 5'4". Napoleon complex. Sure. But, you know, and Jason's like, that's not what that means.

And it's like he's telling he's saying that himself. He has Napoleon complex. I'm like, that's also not like a compliment. It's not really a good thing to say about yourself when you're using it incorrectly. I think he meant that he maybe has been insecure about dating taller women. Yeah. But it's not. Yeah, that's not that. Danny is like the opposite of that, actually. Literally. Yeah. What did you guys think about Jax's comment where I saw someone, everyone's been saying like Nia and Dani, couple of the year, like number one couple. And then Jax had commented somewhere on his Instagram or Twitter and said, we'll see how this ages.

What did he mean about that? I wanted to be like, Jax, we already secured a season two. You don't have to do this. I know everybody's trying to take down couples. Right. I mean, that's what Jax does. Focus on your own relationship. You know, somebody warned me before we got into, you know, filming that if like we look too happy or too perfect, it'll put the target on our back specifically with Jax. And I'm like, well, good thing I don't look perfect. So I guess it's against Danny and Nia. I don't know.

Jax is always stirring something up. Well, I also saw that for the second time on his podcast, he has said that he does not want me or Lala to join the Valley because it would be disrespectful to the current cast and, like, no one wants us. And I'm like, actually, Jax, I just think you don't want us. If we did a poll, these are all of our friends. I've said publicly.

You're afraid of me and Lola being on the show because we're going to call you out for the shit we actually know. I think, you know, before, like when it was announced that the Valley was happening and kind of the cast, a lot of the Bravo, you know, fan base was like, we didn't ask for this. We don't want this. Yeah. Yeah. They don't want to learn about a new family couple. And they're like, we don't want Jax back. And like their people had a really strong stance.

And then I, it was like episode two or three, people were like, I'm sorry. I want to apologize for my, you know, remarks of this. So I think that's also sometimes the more people are like, we don't want this. Actually, you might. Yeah. Just wait. think that's also sometimes the more people are like we don't want this actually you might yeah just wait but when the whole concept of the valley was coming to fruition jacks and britney were the ones that were like we want you and brock in it i'm like oh but now that we're in a little bit of you blocked me on instagram phase you're like we don't want sheena it's disrespectful to the cast i'm like i don't have we done a poll of the whole cast yeah my friends disrespectful i think also

the reason all of you know are the valley works is because it is like an authentic group of friends. Literally. And you are one of our very authentic friends. Yeah. So is Lala. I just did a pool day with her yesterday. So if that makes sense in timing wise, like, and that's what, you know. Yeah.

That makes perfect sense for me. Yeah. The one thing he said that I agreed with is he said we don't need them. And I'm like, you're right, you don't need us. But I think some of you want us. Okay, so I want to get back to this week's episode because it started off on a bit of a cliffhanger with your conversation with Jax.

Sitting down where he brings up the gossip that he heard from Kristen about you supposedly inappropriately texting other men. So I just have to ask, like, was there any truth to this? And where did the rumors come from? Because Jack says he was told by Kristen, but it's like, was he just like scapegoating her? Yeah, there was so much back and forth and, you know, boyfriend and sexy pictures and this and that. Yeah, the boyfriend for a year. I mean, that's ridiculous.

I know. But I never set everything straight. Jesse was aware of everything. And I think there was a lot of confusion about my real estate business because the reality is, yes, I do text a lot of guys and women, but I do. And I meet people for coffee and lunch. And like maybe people who are not in that industry might not understand that. And I do think that Kristen didn't understand that.

In terms of the sexy pictures, I think I know where she got that from. Oh, do tell. So when we went to Brittany's birthday, what was it? Birthday celebration in Vegas. Oh, yeah. Oh, last year. Yeah. We all went to Vegas together.

It was pre-pregnancy because I got wasted. Yes, it was. You were. Oh, no. I knew that was the first time I really hung out with you. I mean, you saw Janet's everything. I saw her naked. Yeah.

It was truth or dare. Naked on a treadmill. Anyways, it was so many girls. We were all having fun. It was a whole Vegas weekend. I was posting a bunch of stories like TikToks were dancing. And on Instagram, like I was getting a lot of like hearts and like responding to my stories. And so I said, oh, look at this actor. He was like liking my stories and stuff like that. And that turned into I was sending sexy pictures.

But it was just like a sex. Yeah, it was a sexy video of me and everybody in it. It's not a private. No, it was not a private text message that I sent. You're like, I just am sexy and I'm putting it out there. And he liked the story. And that's what it was. Yeah.

The telephone game has gotten everybody into a lot of trouble. Literally. That's what I did appreciate, at least, that in this episode, Jesse was like, nope, Jax, you're coming up. Like, we're not doing this game of telephone. Like, let's all have the conversation together. we're not doing this game of telephone. Like, let's all have the conversation together. So Jesse said on Watch What Happens Live this week that while he didn't believe it at the time,

did you watch him last night on Watch What Happens Live? I watched some of it, yes. Okay, so he said that now he does think some inappropriate texting may have been going on. So why do you think he's changing his tune? Do you think it was the picture of Aaron holding Isabella and now he's just like saying shit? I think we were just mad at each other about other things.

Isabella's schedule. He was in Palm Springs and Vegas and I've been very sick and I just feel like work and Isabella has been all been put on me. And so sometimes I'm like texting him trying to figure out a lot of things. And so I think the back and forth and then the fighting and then he went on watch what happens live so it was just a moment of him mad at me yeah he decided to say that it's sad but when you go through like I feel like separation divorce all that unfortunately there's moments where you want to hurt each other yeah and it's hard too when it's not private you know you're going through this publicly and then he could be mad at you an hour before he goes on live television and it's going to change the way he answers the question.

Exactly. I did feel like for the most part, though, like he did say you guys are co-parenting really well. Like, I feel like, you know, when you say something like like that, he probably didn't feel good about it. And I feel like he changed his tune kind of quickly when you guys when he was asked about like Isabella's birthday and stuff like that. Like he did say nice things about you. It's very much a roller coaster. That's what I say. It's like we have good days and we have really bad days. And it is the first time that we're both on TV. First time we're getting all these comments.

Like it's all very brand new to us. What do you, the question for both of you, what do you think Jax's motivations were with this sit down like was he exaggerating or do you think he was in true jack's form trying to you know deflect from his own marital issues 100 deflect yeah because it the focus was on my marriage and not theirs you could see when he said something like, my, like, two. My marriage is on the fence, too.

And I don't think he meant to say that. No, it was a 40-year-old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jason, was it Jason or Danny that was like, two? Yeah, and he's got to mean, never mind, not two. Yeah, and let's focus on Jesse and Michelle. Yeah. No, that was literally the next thing I was going to bring up is Jason goes, wait, you're saying two.

That implies your marriage is on the fence. And he got so defensive, completely doubled down. It was like, no, no, no. Like, we don't believe in divorce. We don't believe in separation. She's never leaving me. Everything's fine. My marriage is great.

And it was like, whoa, bro, you're the one who said it. It's called a Freudian slip. Jax doesn't know who Freud is or what that is. And by the way, Jesse was right because he was the same as Jax a year prior. I know. So he was trying to help him. Yeah. I've been in your situation.

Don't ignore it and like get let's solve it. Yeah. I feel like that conversation that we saw, too. It's like you do see someone who's been a long time friend of Jax's kind of calling him out and giving him some perspective so I did appreciate that from Jesse because I feel like the guys in this group you know Jason is more on the passive side you know he's not a confrontational person Danny like Luke may you know go off because he's like defending Kristen or whatever but out of this group it's like what guy is going. But out of this group, it's like,

what guy is going to call out Jax on his shit? Yeah, it's tough. Jax isn't fun to call out. Yeah. No, but I just I know that that's why he doesn't want me and Brock around because I'm like, bro, Brock and him go toe to toe. There's a couple of things recently where I'm like, because when Brock sees something, he's going to call it out. Well, Brock's also very in tune with his emotions. Yes. And he's like, I feel this way. And that's why I did this. Or like he has no problem like expressing that. And I think that that's actually something Jax really struggles with is being like this happened. I feel this way. And instead of just being like, hey, this hurt my feelings. He's like, you're a shit friend. And you're like, wait, what?

Literally, I don't even remember what I said at this point to make him block me. I think you're blocked now. Yeah. So I'm blocked. I think my mom, he unfollowed. I mean, he just like went on one.

And I think it was because I defended Britney saying that she deserves to be treated with respect because she does. And this episode was extra uncomfortable to watch it's like I know firsthand how it is you know to watch something on TV but it is completely different to live it so what was it like filming with them last summer and was his treatment of her worse than what we saw was it better because i mean that just must have been very uncomfortable to be around i wanted to strangle him through my tv

yeah i mean i've had accurate it is i've had moments where we would always have pool parties and going in and out he would just like get angry very fast short fuse exactly and you never know how he's going to be good mood bad mood and he's kind of similar jesse and jacks have a lot of similarities yeah yeah it's never comfortable watching your friends fight in front of you like i'm like go into your room and have it out for a minute and then come back smiling and pretend everything's okay so it wasn't fun but i would say it was like accurate to it was portrayed accurately, I think. I think the different part of it now is seeing what their conversations are like behind closed doors where nobody's there that we didn't have, you know, access to before. But like that conversation where Brittany snatches this phone out of his hand and is like, stop it.

Like, I'm talking to you. I felt like that was me. That's exactly what I used to do. It's like, pay attention to me. It is like, I really do feel like they were just like a couple steps behind you guys. Yeah. No, it's so crazy. And with Jax, it's like it's so frustrating to see when he's just like constantly like on Brittany about her drinking.

But one thing I don't know if it was the question that the producer asked him in his interview, but I liked how we saw a little bit of that realization this episode where he's like, is she drinking because of me? Because I know just from talking to Brittany, she says that she has not like thrown up once since they separated, whether drinking or not. Like, i think it was stress induced when she broke out in hives like her body was having a physical reaction and was it jasmine in her interview she's like no she's not sick she's sick of you yeah yeah that was a strong statement for him to realize that and say it out loud and when jax has those moments i'm, that's the Jax I still love. I don't like him, but like I still have

love for him when he can be self-aware and not just double down. Yeah. So it was a good moment. I felt like where, you know what? Yeah. Maybe you are the problem, Jax. It's not the drinking. She is drinking to escape the way you treat her. Right. I mean, and stress does the body. I mean, it can destroy your body, really. I feel like if you don't take care of, you know, your stress levels, mental health first, it comes out in physical ways. And I felt like I kept seeing that with Brittany. Like you said, like times where she was like breaking out in hives.

Literally, full body. You know, when she needed to go to the emergency room, like, you know, whatever that was a year ago, like it was, they ruled out all the scary stuff and told her like she needs to take care of herself and rest and like stop running herself dry yeah I think it's just easier for men to make an excuse like you're just drinking so you're the problem yeah let's not talk about what jocks does in the feelings yeah I know he's not yeah literally okay we're gonna take one more quick little break and we'll be right back. So the weather is getting warmer and that means it's time to say goodbye to jackets and sweaters and hello to shorts and tees.

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it was. Maybe you didn't see like just how much I was like preparing all of this food kind of on my own. And it was supposed to be like everybody like a potluck situation. Everybody's like got groceries and everybody's going to make one thing. And so I was like, oh, great. I'm going to make one side dish. And then Brittany was going to make like a big chunk of it. But since she was sick, I was like, OK, I think I know what she's going to do. By the way, I did help. That's like helping for me. Yeah. I gave you a knife and mushrooms. I was our green beans or something. And I was like, hey, chop these. And she's like, how big? And I was like, as big as you would eat them. But it was like all these little things like we just come off like the, you know, like lake. I was exhausted. I was starving. I'm pregnant. And like then. Oh, I know that feeling. It's the worst.

I said you were hungry. Yeah. I loved when I was hungry. I think she's hungry. Maybe she's hungry because she's. And I was like, that's hit the nail on the head. Oh, yeah. And you're hormonal. Yeah. You are hungry, hungry. My final straw was Jesse. As soon as he was like, that's hit the nail on the head. Oh, yeah. And you're hormonal. Yeah. You are hungry. My final straw was Jesse. As soon as he was like, get. I was like. You're like the red emotion and inside out. Just like fuming.

Jason and I call it the nuke button. Like it takes a while. Like there's a lot of like obstacles between me and the nuke button. You have to put the code in. You have to lift up the glass box above the button and you put your hand on it. But that was like all the little things like, OK, Brittany six, I have to cook this stuff by myself. OK, Michelle's asking me how big to cut green beans. Nia's telling me it takes four hours to make buffalo chicken dip. And I'm like, all right, fuck the buffalo chicken dip. What else do we got? Like, yeah, I got to get food as quickly. And I was just like, all right. And I was like, all I need was the guys to turn on the grill.

Like Jasmine was like, I can man the grill. Just I was just like, all right. And I was like, all I need was the guys to turn on the grill. Like, Jasmine was like, I can man the grill. Just get someone to turn it on. Yeah. I was like, great. One last step. And then as soon, it was like, I saw it in slow motion. As soon as Jesse's hand, I was like, oh, yeah. And I felt the tears coming.

Welcome to my life with Jesse on a daily basis. I got a taste of it. And I was like, I literally, I felt the tears coming. And I was like, I'm not crying here. And I'm not going to let Jesse know he made me cry. And I just like, I literally, I felt the tears coming. And I was like, I'm not crying here. And I'm not going to let Jesse know he made me cry. And I just booked it. I was like, I'm, and I could hear footsteps behind me, Jason's. And I was like, all right, that tracks.

He, of course, is going to come check on me. And then I, of course, cameras coming in. And Jason said, as almost always, the perfect thing. You're right. I'm sorry. And I was like, oh my God, he's so nice. But that's how a husband should be, especially a pregnant, hungry wife in that moment. Like there's no other way that you should have

been treated. And it's like, Jax, take some lessons. Right. I think Jax even said at some point, like, well, you came in at a really bad time. And I'm like, doesn't matter. I was pregnant, hungry and cooking for all of us. Like And how long were they having that conversation? Maybe already over an hour, you know? They'd been holding each other, crying for so long. Literally. They were all crying. And I didn't know what they were talking about out there, obviously.

Like, later, people were like, well, Dani was crying. And I'm like, why? How would you know that? I didn't know. You're not in the back with the producer cam watching the scene. Like, you're in the kitchen. I wish I was. But, no, all I was thinking is, is like they're out there nobody cares like everyone's just like oh jayna's you know slaving

away cinderella in there and like i'm you know cooking as soon as i asked for one thing like the dismissal i was like oh well then forget this i'm not then make yourself fucking dinner yeah like no i would have said the same thing fully hadully had a meltdown. I saw when that scene, like on our preview before the season aired, there was like a clip of that. It was like my ugly cry face. And I was like, oh no. Oh no.

I was like, maybe they'll cut that. No. No, no. They love to do the ugly cry memes and whatnot. But I do think it was good. Jason did the right thing. I think that was a good lesson maybe for the guys. Yeah.

Admit they... For sure. Jason, he really felt bad. He was like, I should have been making sure that you can relax a little bit, that you're getting your basic needs of food met.

Yeah. But then also, he is new to balancing a TV show, a group of friends, a pregnant wife all at the same time. Right.

But he did the right thing. So kudos to Jason. And let's also make note that this was just a few days after Jesse came back from ayahuasca, right? So it was like an instant moment of, oh, it seems like he's changed and then straight back to Jesse. Absolutely.

It was one night of what do you call that? Ayahuasca. And I'm sorry, but that does not change how you deal with things in a marriage. As you said, he needed a whole new personality. Oh, people hated that comment. But I said a lot of different things. I got what you meant. I was trying to say like, you're just constantly rude. You're dismissive. You're this and that. Like you need to change all those things and people are like why don't you try changing

your personality how about I leave him and then I'll have a different personality because I'll be happy by the way I have a different personality now for those who want to know it's much lighter and I love to see I mean I loved you before from the day I met you I mean we bonded right away at

Britney's birthday last year in Vegas. But just seeing, you know, you now and through that last year of your marriage to how happy you are now. I love to see it. Thank you. Me too. Yeah. So, Janet, watching the season back and seeing what played out in the hallway. Do you wish you had maybe excluded Jesse from the baby moon as well?

Yes and no. I mean, it was more like they're a package deal and I needed Michelle there. Yeah, I got that. And I felt like, you know, Jesse definitely reacted poorly and like that was, you know, unacceptable. Like, you know, shoving and whatever. I mean, yeah, yelling at Kristen, hitting the table, pushing Brittany. It's like, I mean, there have been so many things in just a few episodes.

Yeah, I think it was aggressive. And, you know, when you play them all right back, then you suddenly maybe see that. Yeah. But at the end of the day, I did feel like at that time that Kristen was kind of bringing in these bombs that didn't, like, had gone through the telephone ringer

like seven times that were like, then just suddenly like more like lies than truth. And so was like I just need a break from that and like that was like kind of what felt like the cause or like being like instigating a lot of these then crazy moments that you know then people are screaming at each other and angry in a whole different way that I was just like we just gotta separate everybody for a minute. Yeah, and it makes sense that two couples are just not getting along. Why are you going to have them stay in one house? So you got to pick. Yeah. And I mean, you guys wouldn't have gone if I invited them. No, no. And, you know, I think that that was the general consensus. Yeah. And that's the thing, too, where it's tricky when you're on a show with an ensemble cast and there is a group trip everyone expects to be invited but depending on whose trip it is people don't always get

invited i wasn't invited to have a sue it was katie's girl's trip i was the only girl excluded that sucked i didn't think about that but i'm like i've been that person too if it was lala's trip ariana raquel anyone else else, I would have been invited. But it's like Katie didn't want me on her trip. And yeah, it sucked to not be there. But it's like on an ensemble cast show, you don't always all go on the group trip. And people

need to understand that. And Kristen should know that better than anyone. Zach has been around us long enough to also know how this works. It was very clear that Kristen didn't invite us to her t-shirt little party. So if you didn't invite us to that little event, why is it a big event that there was a flyer for? Right. And she's like, well, she didn't invite me to the dinner. And I'm like, yeah, because the last I'm like, it's always like this. Yeah. And it maybe it got out of hand. But at the end of the day, I was like, this is, you know, your pregnancy. And yeah.

And this is also what I would have done whether cameras were there or not. Like I needed a break from Kristen at that time. And people are really up in arms about that. But, you know, all I can do is continue to be authentic and do what I would either way. And yeah, I think at the end of the day, people maybe don't like or like, oh, that's not how these, you know, reality TV rules work. And it's like, well, at the end of the day, I think that the audience actually does appreciate when people are doing what they would either way.

Yeah. And with that being said, that's where I do get that perspective now of Ariana walking out at the end of the season. I know I have kind of parroted what Lala said by just being like in the moment, it felt like a slap in the face now after living the reunion watching it back I'm like that was authentic to her in that moment and I do understand that perspective as well yeah but that's the thing with being on a show watching it back is you do get new perspective sometimes I just feel like it's too late and it's it's like, well, you said last week it was this. And I'm like, I'm trying to explain in the moment

I understood Lala's frustration. And that's how I felt. I then also understood that. Yes, it's like there was this really good article that just came out. I saw where a couple of our executive producers and the editor were interviewed and I was reading it and I was like, oh, when they said, you know, there are two versions of reality. And Lala's is like, you know, where I was reading it and I was like oh when they said you know there are two versions of reality and Lala's is like you know where I was standing by her with this it is our job and we have to film with people we don't want to film with and have uncomfortable conversations and I was like yes I get that Ariana's version of reality is if it was a camera or no camera it doesn't matter I acted the way I would act and I I'm like, oh, I get that too.

And this is why I get in so much trouble because I live in the fucking gray. And you can see both sides. I see both sides. Yeah. But that's not okay. It's like one or the other. And it's so hard.

It's not always that simple. And I think the three of us two have in common right now that we have gotten a lot of negativity this season. You mean we're all not the fan favorites? What do you mean? I would have never imagined. I'm like, the fact that everybody thinks Jessie was trying so hard and I just left the marriage. I'm like, do you guys not realize we got divorced right after filming? Like you saw the very tail end of our relationship and somehow I'm the villain. Yeah.

No, I know. I've seen that. It's like show villain, actual villain or whatever. And I'm like, that's what you just gotta, you know, take what the audience says sometimes with a grain of salt. And it's like, you know what? We're showing up. We're filming a show for entertainment

to show our perspectives, to show real life things that we're going through in hopes that people can relate to it. And that's what I love about y'all show is it's showing relationships in different stages. It's showing parenting next season is going to navigate two couples who are separated vying for divorce and navigating that. And that is honestly more relatable I think than a happy couple married with the kid that's so much more unlikely in this day and age so I love that you guys get to show all of those and it is uncomfortable at times but we're not perfect like that's the other thing I'm like there are comments too where I'm like I agree with you like I had a weak moment or like like

one of the things like I will happily you, while I think everybody has kind of made mistakes and said things like calling Kristen crazy, Kristen, I regret that. That was not kind of me. I shouldn't have said that. Like I can look back now and in those moments and be like, oh, Janet, that was not like, yeah, that's I've had a couple of those moments to watching it. Yeah. And I think, you know, it's also like you're going to see the good, the bad, and the ugly. And like there's stuff where I'll double down

and be like, I meant that and I will never back down on that. But there's other stuff where I'm like, that wasn't cool. Yeah. I know you had gotten

a lot of shit when you made a comment earlier this season that you didn't think Kristen should procreate. Do you still feel that way? Were you just pissed when you said that?

Like, is there any additional context? I honestly just pissed when you said that? Like, is there any additional context? I honestly don't even remember saying that when I watched it. I'm like, ooh, that doesn't even sound like me. And I should have not. I should have not said that. I have been so angry because I just felt like she's creating a family, but she's trying to attack my family and my marriage. And I just felt attacked as a person. And I was frustrated and she was doing it all on TV. But absolutely not.

Like, I hope she gets pregnant one day and has a baby. And it was just a moment of weakness. And I shouldn't have said that. And that's the thing. We can look back, reflect and grow and be like, you know what? Actually, that was a shitty thing to say. So that is the beauty and the hard part of this show. But I love that we get to, you know, look back and reflect.

And it's like, damn, I shouldn't have said that. And I felt so bad that I actually called her once. It was the first time I ever tried calling her since filming. But she didn't answer or call me back. But I just wanted to, like, I didn't even want to have me back but I just wanted to like I didn't even want to have a discussion I was yeah I saw that moment of what I said I didn't mean it and I'm very sorry yeah and that's hard to do you know I mean it's not always easy to just admit when you're wrong and apologize and yeah so I respect you for doing that me too yeah I was shocked when

you told me that you picked up the phone yeah I didn't know that really but I think that's big that's huge that is who you are you are a very kind person and I feel like when you told me that you picked up the phone. Yeah, I didn't know that. Really? But I think that's big of you. That is who you are. You are a very kind person. And I feel like when I saw that clip, I was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah. Chell. And I don't think that's something that you text.

And it was just like, I'm going to try to call you once. And if you want to talk to me, you can call me back. And we didn't have that moment. Yeah. So I saw, Janet, that you've gotten also, just talking about comments and things, a bit back and forth with Zach in the comments where, and I know this story and I don't know how much you can say,

but you said that Zach wished death upon you and your unborn child and basically said he didn't care if you miscarried your baby. unborn child and basically said he didn't care if you miscarried your baby. And you also commented that you didn't think that Zach and Kristen wanted you to have a successful pregnancy. So is there anything more that you can say about this to the listeners? Well, I will say part of the advice that I got from you and Lala and everybody was like, don't get in the comments. And then I saw you in the comments. It's impossible. I try my best, but it's impossible to not read anything. You know that sound on TikTok that's like, I'm not going to do it,

girl. I'm not going to do it. And it's like, I did it. Yeah. It's like, that's kind of how I just, look, there's so much in this. I'm navigating this new situation of having life and friendships and enemies and all the things on TV. So and because our group is a real friend group, Zach and I have a ton of history. You know, this history, we've had problems. I know. And which wasn't shown on the show. And there was prior. Yeah. And it's it's it all happened before we picked up cameras in our lives and I gave him a fresh start you know at my birthday and but there's so much that had happened and there's things that then have happened since and I want everybody I guess it's gonna be a it might be a long wait but I really do believe like the truth comes out in the end. And I want

everybody just maybe like stay tuned. Like don't make a full opinion right now on this. Give it a breather. Zach and I need to have a conversation at some point. I think you do for sure. Cause at Brittany's birthday dinner, I know he only came because Brittany knew you weren't coming. That was kind of still when you were in your, you didn't want to be around people. Baby was young and whatnot. Parenting, yeah. And I hadn't spoken to him since I knew he said that to you. I did not wish him a happy birthday.

I did not talk to him for, what, six months? Yeah. Between end of, or four months between end of filming and Brittany's birthday. And at her birthday, he was like, I was like, not the time or place. I was like, we were here for Brittany. We're not.

I was like, today, I'm fine with you. But like, you and I also need to have another conversation as someone who has lost a baby. Completely. He's like, I know it was disgusting. It was inexcusable. I was like, just, we're not doing this today. I was like.

That's why I was a little surprised by the whole comment thing. Yeah. And especially Kristen now has also been through a pregnancy loss. So it's like for her best friend to be saying this, I certainly hope she's also holding him accountable because it's just the worst thing you could possibly say to a pregnant person. I agree.

I agree. And you know, there's, like I said, there's just, there's so much more history and I think, and things and conversations that need to be had, but I'm going to continue doing what I always have been doing, which is try to be open and honest and have those conversations. So, you know,

everything that happens in between season one and season two, like I plan on being very open, addressing everything as I need to, having those tough conversations. And, you know, we'll have to kind of go from there. And I will say like that sermon at church, when we were just like going over and over about forgiveness and what it means and all of this stuff, I was like, I think this literally might be a sign from God. Like part of me thought like, I'm never like, I'm never having, I don't know, a conversation with him again. And part of me was like, you know what? It's not about anybody else. It's about me.

And forgiveness is about yourself and letting it go and not holding on to hate and anger and things like that. So that's something I'm working on. Likewise. And in the meantime, I've learned also, even if I want to chime in and be like, actually, here's the history. It's I'm never going to be able to explain all of it.

Totally. It's just kind of you're going to have to wait and see. And I've realized like jumping in and giving even more thing actually just makes it more confusing. And it's hard to give context. So, yeah, I got that. You know, I've learned the comment section is not the place to dive in. It's only going to create more negativity and hate. And like, yeah, I don't know where you're coming from. Yeah, it just for

sure. It's it's a lot. And like I said, it's like real friendships, real conflict, everything because it's real. Like there's just a lot there. Yeah, there is. Well, very excited for season two. Yeah, there is. Well, very excited for season two. Okay, to wrap this up, I wanted to know, have y'all seen that viral video of the Four Seasons Orlando baby? Yes. Okay, so. I feel like this is Isabella. So there's this video going around. It's like it's gone viral of a dad holding a baby. And there's a toddler in the background the mom asks who's excited to be staying at the four seasons and then it's like the baby almost like i think he raises him or her i'm not sure but like raises their hand he's like me and i mean this baby's

like what seven months old maybe i mean a baby but people are saying this is like an example of a conscious baby like stewie from Family Guy or whatever. Do you think that's an actual thing? It's like, I mean, we're all moms, but I couldn't imagine asking my like six or seven month old baby and them just being like me, like on point answered the question. Is this something they practice with the kid? I mean, I feel like at that age, if you say,

I don't know if you are just hyping them up about something. We're going to this vacation. Yeah, I think that can happen. Like they could be like me, like not even really knowing what the Four Seasons is or whatever. Just being like, my parents have been hyping up this thing. Yeah. It's called a Four Seasons. I don't know what it is, but it sounds like it's gonna be really fun.

Yeah. I don't know. It was so cute, though. I was like, that's a baby with good taste. Yeah. No, it was so on point. It was so cute, though. I was like, that's a baby with good taste. Yeah. No, it was so on point. It was so funny. Yeah.

Isabella, like, loves, like, your trips. I try to ground her and, like, this is not normal and, you know, day to day, but it's just hard in the environment we're in. Yeah. Who her dad is. I try my best. Yeah. No, for sure.

I'm like, summer needs to learn what a cold pool feels like. You, a little privileged kid in your 90 degree pool in Palm Springs. And Brock wanted to heat the pool the other day. And I was like, when she has her swim lessons, we'll heat the pool. But like the gas bill, you know, I'm like, no, like I didn't have a warm pool growing up. But she knows the pool in Palm Springs, it's small. That one can be heated. But I'm like, at home, get used to it.

Isabella's latest thing is Amazon. She's like, can I just see your Amazon? But I'm like, at home, get used to it. Isabella's latest thing is Amazon. She's like, can I just see your Amazon? And I'm like, why? And she wants to purchase stuff. I'm like, life doesn't work like that. We don't just buy toys every day. And so she'll just look at it and she's like, can you buy it? Can you buy it? And I'm like, no, we're not buying it. There's nothing special. You just had your

birthday. We had Christmas. Like, no. But she loves to just shop on Amazon. Yeah. So I gotta hide Amazon. If I say we're out of something, she goes, it, but she loves to just shop on Amazon. Yeah. So I got to hide Amazon. If I say we're out of something, she goes, it's okay, mommy, just go on Amazon. Yeah. And I'm like, you just think that like, what is that life like growing up as a kid with Amazon? Yeah. These kids are so freaking cute. I love your girls. And then when I say no, I'm like, I work really hard to buy this food. And she's like, well, then just go sell another house, mommy. Oh, my gosh. You're like, I'm working on it. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to buy this food. And she's like, well, then just go sell another house, mommy. Oh, my gosh.

You're like, I'm working on it. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to wrap this up with a comment that Kyle Cook made on Summer House this week saying to Paige that he doesn't expect someone who like does a podcast to understand, suggesting that Paige wouldn't understand a business level decision. So I just want to end this here by saying justice for Paige and justice for podcasters. If it was as easy as it looked, I'm sure, you know, Kyle would have a weekly Loverboy podcast. He will be with us in a

couple of weeks, getting into some New York shenanigans with me, which we will be addressing that. But I just wanted to send my girl Paige some love. And thank you, girls, for being here, my Valley girls. Even though you don't live in the Valley, but it doesn't matter. We'll get you over there. She's a Valley girl. I said I was a West Side girl forever. And then I got over there. And you looked at home prices on the West Side. And then Michelle sold me my home. So that was such a great experience. No, it was. And I was so happy to like go through that experience with you. By the way, you were the easiest client I've ever had. That just shows what kind of person you are.

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I love it. All right. So next week, season finale. Is it? Is it? Do I think we have two more?

Two more. Okay. And no reunion. We just got to get right into season two. I think we have two more? Two more. Okay. And no reunion. We just got to get right into season two. I wish we had a reunion. I would really like to talk. I want to sit everybody down and give them a piece of my mind. Exactly.

Same here. But maybe by not having a reunion, cameras will be up and running even sooner because there's a lot going on in y'all's group and you needed to start filming two weeks ago. I know. I'm dying to see the finale. I cannot wait. Summer off. But yeah dying to see the finale. I cannot wait. Let's take a summer off but yeah.

Yeah you guys need a summer off and to have a relaxing summer and I'm actually excited I feel like for VPR to see a different time period of life.

I would love that. Let's take a snow trip. Let's do different things you know not have Tom Sandoval's fucking birthday every goddamn season. I was just saying

you only see the same people's birthdays over and over. We're always filming July 7th. Like no matter what, if we start earlier and it's always his birthday that we're filming during. So it would be nice to have like a Halloween party,

Friendsgiving, go to the snow, just do a different season of year. I like that. And it means maybe we can steal you over for a little bit this summer. Stay tuned. All right. Thank you guys for watching and listening.

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